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Larry King:
If there is a true legend,
it's Ted Turner.
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Jane Fonda:
An American hero,
bigger than life.
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speaker 1:
He's an erratic genius.
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Bono:
The man is way more
rock-and-roll than I am.
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Bold and frequently
controversial.
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Ted Koppel:
They called him
"the Mouth from the South."
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Ted Turner:
Bull [bleep]! If people
are doing something
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that hurts
all the rest of us,
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then they shouldn't
be doing it!
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Christiane Amanpour:
He believed way early
in saving the climate.
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Turner:
I'm willing to risk everything.
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speaker 2:
In a move that drew criticism,
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Turner accepted an invitation
to go to Cuba.
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Diane Sawyer:
Can you trust him?
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Turner: He trusted me.
He gave me a loaded gun.
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I could've shot him
very easily.
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speaker 3: Ted is a guy
who would bet the farm.
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Turner:
You got enough brains
to save up
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11 million bucks to buy it,
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then you oughta be able
to have enough brains
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to go down there
and run it, right?
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Ronald Reagan:
It's a great honor for me
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to be here with you today
to open the Goodwill Games.
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speaker 4:
He's Captain Courageous.
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Turner:
I said to the crew, I said,
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"20 people are
gonna die tonight."
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(thunder crashes)
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Ted Turner, the well-known
American yachtsman, is missing.
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Turner:
Who thought the world
needed 24/7 news? I did.
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We had no employees,
no set, no equipment.
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- The satellite blew up.
- (explosion blasts)
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speaker 5: Clearly,
I've never been there,
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but it feels like
we're in the center of Hell.
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(stock market bell ringing)
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Morley Safer:
His marriage was breaking up.
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speaker 6:
The pressure was excruciating.
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Terry McGuirk:
This is the fight of his life.
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speaker 7:
You know you changed the world?
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Turner:
Yeah, I know.
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- (TV static)
- And I didn't know
what I was gonna talk about
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- until now.
- (audience laughter)
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(curious music playing)
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"Playboy" Magazine
called him a bona fide,
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larger-than-life character.
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Would you please welcome
Mr. Ted Turner.
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John Malone:
Ted was having polls done
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that were indicating that,
after the Pope,
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he was probably the second
most popular person in America.
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reporter:
Turner, by far the most
controversial skipper
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ever to take part
in the Cup competition,
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found it difficult
to be serious
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as he continued
to celebrate his victory.
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When you're bleeding
$10 million a day,
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at some point,
you just gotta say,
"I'm getting outta this."
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But, my kids were
all in the stock,
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most of my friends were,
so I sat there loyally
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and went down the drain
with everybody else.
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I will do whatever
is necessary to survive.
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I mean, the only way
they're gonna get rid of me,
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um, is to put a bullet in me.
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While I'd never been in
business primarily for money,
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when I became a billionaire,
it did feel good.
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I think it'd be tragic
to just be remembered
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for making a lot of money.
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Being around the Cousteaus
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made me want to work
that much harder,
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to use my influence
to expose more people
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to the important issues
facing our planet.
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Let's keep our fingers crossed
and hope
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that Captain Planet and the
Planeteers can save the planet.
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I decided that what would be
really exciting to do,
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donate a billion dollars
to the UN causes, myself.
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The UN Foundation's become...
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the UN's strategic partner,
uh, since that time,
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connecting the UN
to activists like myself.
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Are we gonna make
the right choices
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that will allow us to exist
for another million years
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here, on this beautiful paradise
of a planet that we're on?
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Or are we gonna turn it
into a desert
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and end up blowing ourselves
to kingdom come?
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The choice is ours.
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He told me, he said, "You've
got something that leaders
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all over the world
need right now."
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He said, "I need it.
I've gotta have it."
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I was named "Time" magazine's
Man of the Year.
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Malone:
Deserved it. CNN did more
to pull down
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the Iron Curtain,
in my opinion, than anything.
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Turner:
I also made it clear
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that if anyone
was killed or injured,
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I, and I alone,
would take full responsibility.
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He has single-handedly
brought back species,
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the most famous of which
are the American bison.
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Well, I'm raising the bison
'cause I really like 'em,
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but when I got up to 42,000,
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I had to start doing
something with them
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- because they keep
breeding, so we to...
- (Letterman laughing)
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- ...we had to eat some of 'em.
- (audience laughter)
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I did not call him Hitler.
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You live by the sword,
you die by it.
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- Mike Wallace: "Turner veer--"
- Yeah.
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Wallace: "Veers
dangerously toward insanity."
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"Insanity." Well...
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- Wallace: Oh, you read that?
- I read it.
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I read it. I mean,
I expected it from him.
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You're right.
I get in more trouble.
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I, I wish I didn't say some of
the crazy things I've said.
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- (TV static)
- I'm gonna say some things today
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that I have never said
in public before.
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(glitching, static, clicks)
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(typing)
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Franklin D. Roosevelt:
The only thing
we have to fear is...
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fear itself.
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Turner: My father,
he came up in the Depression.
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He didn't finish college
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because his father
went bankrupt.
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He was a farmer
in Mississippi.
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And he went bankrupt.
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He had to drop out of school.
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And he never-- He tried
to work his way through,
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but he never made it through.
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And he was
in this grinding poverty.
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He told his mother
when he was about 16,
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"I will be a millionaire.
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And someday,
I will own a yacht
and a plantation."
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♪
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When my father reached Ohio,
the arrival of this gregarious
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and charming Southerner
did not go unnoticed.
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Florence Rooney was a bright,
beautiful, and elegant woman
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with a terrific personality.
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My mom accepted his proposal
for marriage.
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I came along next
November 19th, 1938.
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The first Turner born north
of the Mason-Dixon line.
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Another beautiful baby,
Mary Jean,
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came along
in September of 1941
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and was the apple
of my parents' eye.
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(explosions)
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(tense music playing)
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That date was significant
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because when the Japanese
attacked Pearl Harbor
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just a few months later,
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my father joined the US Navy.
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They decided to take their
infant daughter, Mary Jean,
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but leave me behind to attend
the Cincinnati boarding school.
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I was 4 years old.
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I don't even remember
the name of that school,
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but I sure do remember
that I didn't like it.
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A gray gravel courtyard framed
by a chain-link fence.
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- The place felt like a prison.
- (gate rattling, slamming)
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(soft music playing)
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My greatest fear was to be
put in a dungeon
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and sit there
for the rest of my life.
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I missed my parents so much
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that I suffered
from a case of abandonment.
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(kids laughing)
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I don't like to be alone.
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It was hard for me
to understand
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why my parents took my sister
and left me behind.
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My unhappiness at this school
must have been obvious
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as my parents ultimately
decided from afar
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that I should spend
the following school year
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with my Turner grandparents
in rural Mississippi.
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(teletype clicking)
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reporter (on radio):
This, ladies and gentlemen,
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is the end of
the Second World War.
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Turner:
My father returned from the war
the following year,
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and our family was finally
reunited in Cincinnati.
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Dad was a...
was a handful.
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And he would bring all kinds
of wild animals home.
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He was doing taxidermy
at 9 years old,
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stuffing squirrels and bringing
snakes and things home,
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putting alligators
in the bathtub.
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It's interesting
because his dad
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was very tough on him.
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- (door slams open)
- Turner: My dad
was a volatile man
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with a quick temper.
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When he drank,
his temper got worse.
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And, his father
beat him regularly.
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Sometimes with his hand.
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Sometimes with coat hangers.
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Sometimes with belts.
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Turner: My father,
I was crazy about him.
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He was tough but fair.
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He always would say,
he said, "The reason
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"I'm being so tough on you now
while you're little
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is because it'll be easier
for you when you grow older."
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I was born
in Cincinnati, Ohio.
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My father moved to Georgia
when I was 9 years old.
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("Reveille" playing on bugle)
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He sent me right away
to Georgia Military Academy,
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which was a school for--
was like, like a prison school.
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And they were so mean!
And I was a Yankee,
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and they were still fighting
the Civil War.
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So, they said,
"Turner's a Yankee.
Kill the Yankee!"
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They used to pile on.
I remember
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hiding in a locker
for six hours.
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They had a lynch mob
with a rope!
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They-- you know,
they were just playing like
they were the Ku Klux Klan!
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I was being killed, alright?
I mean, it was awful.
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Beat up all the time,
pounded on, gangs,
it was just--
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I wasn't sodomized,
thank God.
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- (audience laughing)
- I mean, we were
too young for that.
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But, everything else.
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So, I became-- I learned
the Southern accent.
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I mean, it took me
a couple of years. I final--
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I finally got integrated in.
I mean, I became a Southerner.
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(audience laughing)
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- (horns honking)
- By this time,
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my dad had decided
to make his career
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in the outdoor
advertising business.
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He had acquired a small
billboard company in Savannah.
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One of the things that saved Ted
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was his father had
a manservant named Jimmy Brown,
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who also sailed,
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and who looked
after the father's boat,
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and basically raised Ted.
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He used to come down
to the boat and visit,
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and we used to go
fishing and hunting
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and all that kind of stuff.
I mean, you know, just hang out,
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I mean, he would come out
and hang out with me.
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("The Three Bells"
by The Browns playing)
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♪ All the chapel bells
were ringing ♪
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- ♪ Bom... ♪
- (birds chirping)
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- ♪ In the little valley town ♪
- ♪ Bom... ♪
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- ♪ Bom... bom... ♪
- ♪ And the song that
they were singing ♪
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- ♪ Bom... bom... ♪
- ♪ Was for baby Jimmy Brown ♪
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Turner:
"The Three Bells" was a song
I used to sing to Jimmy.
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With my dad away
at work so much
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and my mom spending time
with my sister,
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Jimmy and I would hang out.
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He was like an older brother,
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but we behaved more like
two good friends.
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- Eventually, he became like
a second father to me.
- (song fades out)
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- (pickaxes smacking)
- By the time I was 12,
during my summers,
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my father had me working
a 42-and-a-half-hour work week
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at his billboard company.
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We'd cut the bushes down with
sling blades along the swamps,
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- along the highway,
- (snake rattling)
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you know, fighting the snakes
and mosquitoes
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and Black Widow spiders
down there.
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- He paid me 10 cents
an hour then, too.
- (coins jingle)
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And that was illegal, too,
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because the minimum wage
was 85 cents an hour.
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I said, "Dad,
how can you do this?"
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He says, "You're my son."
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(siren wailing)
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Mary Jean was just 12 years old
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when she developed
lupus erythematosus,
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an autoimmune disease.
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She went into a coma,
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and when she came
out of the coma,
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her, her mind
was badly affected.
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So, she was not
the same person at all.
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There were days when
I would walk up to her,
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and she'd say the most
simple childish thing like,
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"Teddy, you're my brother."
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Then walk away and bang
her head against the wall.
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It was heartbreaking.
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The most painful times for us
was when she'd scream,
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"Please, God, let me die."
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Ted was very, uh,
traumatized by it,
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by her illness.
I mean, he thought
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maybe he oughta get religion,
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and maybe that would help.
And I know he told me
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he went to several
Billy Graham crusades
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and found Christianity
and the Lord and all of that.
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There are thousands
of people here tonight
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that have burdens
that need to be lifted.
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Problems that need to be solved.
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Sin that needs to be forgiven.
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Many of you are searching
for a new way of life.
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Laura Turner Seydel:
Dad was gonna be a missionary.
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He had read the Bible
cover to cover, twice.
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Uh, and then,
when he realized his sister
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was dying in this long,
drawn out,
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very painful, uh, way,
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he just said,
"There, there can't be a God.
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"Because if there were a God,
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"my sister would not be
suffering the way she is
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for the number of years,
uh, that she did."
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And he became a nonbeliever.
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Turner:
Then, my father decided
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I had to go to college
in the East.
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So now, I'm a Southerner,
and guess what? It's 1956.
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Emmett Till has
just been murdered.
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It's the beginning of
the civil rights movement.
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So, everybody up there thinks
I must be some racist,
you know?
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- (crowd yelling)
- So, they said, "You goddamn
Southerner, Turner!"
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So I'm now,
I'm back in the North.
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I couldn't shake the Southern,
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couldn't get in the right
fraternities or anything.
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Nobody wanted to be
my friend. (laughs)
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I've known him
since we met freshman week
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at, uh, Brown University.
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It turned out we'd both been
to military schools
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for many years,
and it was a common bond.
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And we were different than most
of the other freshman class
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because most of
the other guys went to
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some fancy Eastern prep school.
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They knew how to dress.
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They knew how to deal
with women.
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You know, they'd actually
dated people.
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Things like that that we didn't
know anything about.
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Turner:
My father was, uh,
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on the fringe of
just about everything.
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He had a tremendous
influence on me.
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I mean, he was basically
a good person, but he said,
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"You've gotta be honest
about everything."
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He said, "Of course, it's not
lying to lie to your wife.
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"Real men aren't faithful
to their wives.
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Real men run around."
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That first summer at school
was difficult,
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as my parents' marriage
ended in divorce.
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(soft rock music playing)
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I was beginning to show promise
as a competitive sailor.
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(seagulls cawing)
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In the first eight years that
I raced sailboats, I never won.
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I was second
almost all the time,
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but I never won
once in eight years.
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And then,
in my ninth year of racing,
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I went to college
and started racing there.
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My first year in college,
I won just about all the time.
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As a sophomore, I was now
in the second year of a bet
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my father had made with me
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before sending me off
to college.
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If I didn't drink or smoke
before turning 21,
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- he'd give me $5,000.
- (cash register dings)
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My dad was an alcoholic
and smoked two packs a day
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and didn't want his son
to make the same mistakes.
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(upbeat music playing)
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I mean, I never even kissed
a girl till I was 18!
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I never made love until I was
19-and-a-half, almost 20.
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And it took me
19-and-a-half years! I mean,
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to do it the first time.
I did it the second time
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- 10 minutes later. That's how--
- (audience laughter)
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how easy it is
to be a fast learner.
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- I mean,
you know, that's right.
- (laughter)
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Ted being Ted,
being an honorable guy,
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he told his father
that he had, uh...
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had something to drink.
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Turner:
I lost the bet with my dad.
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One night, I went with a bunch
of guys to Wheaton College,
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a women's school
in nearby Massachusetts.
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We'd been drinking,
and we wound up throwing chairs
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- out of the windows of
one of the dormitories there.
- (siren wailing)
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After that,
someone called the police,
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and we got caught.
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And I was suspended from Brown
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for the rest of that
school year. I figured, well,
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I got a year at least before
I can get back into school,
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so I'll join
the Coast Guard Reserve.
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And I was 19 at the time,
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and, uh, start fulfilling
my military obligation.
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In those days,
we still had a draft.
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And then,
he came back the next...
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semester or the next year,
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and we resumed
where we had left off.
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We were kinda catching up
on things, you know?
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Women, wine, song.
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And, uh,
we enjoyed our time there.
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(upbeat Greek music playing)
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Turner:
Things reached a head
about six months later
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when I declared Classics
as my major.
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We went deep into
ancient Greek history.
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Brown didn't offer
business courses.
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Regardless,
my dad was furious
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and described
his feelings to me
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in a long, rambling letter.
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00:16:10,512 --> 00:16:12,596
narrator (as Ted's father):
"I'm appalled, even horrified,
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"that you have adopted
Classics as a major.
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"As a matter of fact, I almost
puked on the way home today.
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"In my opinion,
it won't do much
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"to help you learn to get along
with people in this world.
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"I think you are rapidly
becoming a jackass,
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"and the sooner you get out
of that filthy atmosphere,
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"the better it will suit me.
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"You are in the hands
of the Philistines,
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"and dammit, I sent you there.
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00:16:36,621 --> 00:16:38,455
"I am sorry.
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Devotedly, Dad."
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Turner:
It was clear that my father
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would not be
supporting me financially.
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(upbeat music playing)
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I made some
spending money
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working in
the school cafeteria,
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but I could never earn enough
during school
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to make my room
and board payments.
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00:16:54,472 --> 00:16:56,974
I burned the candle
at both ends.
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I was drinking, chasing women,
staying up late,
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and hardly going to class
at all.
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00:17:02,814 --> 00:17:05,065
At some point,
Ted was caught
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with a woman... in his room.
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It-- You would get off easier
if you killed somebody
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than having a woman
in your room.
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00:17:13,491 --> 00:17:15,535
So, he was thrown out again.
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00:17:16,036 --> 00:17:17,537
(jazz sting)
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00:17:18,830 --> 00:17:22,499
Turner:
My father and I had a complex
relationship, but I loved him.
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I had a great opportunity
in front of me,
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and I really did enjoy
the billboard business.
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00:17:27,005 --> 00:17:28,714
I got a call from Ted,
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00:17:28,715 --> 00:17:31,717
so I went to work for Ed Turner
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00:17:31,718 --> 00:17:34,678
at Turner Advertising in
Charleston, South Carolina.
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00:17:34,679 --> 00:17:37,015
Turner: At this point,
I had not had
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any long-term relationships
with women.
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00:17:39,726 --> 00:17:40,934
My thoughts turned to a woman
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I had met at a college
sailing regatta.
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00:17:43,438 --> 00:17:45,189
Her name was Judy Nye,
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00:17:45,190 --> 00:17:47,191
and she was
the champion sailor
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00:17:47,192 --> 00:17:49,736
on Northwestern
University's team.
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00:17:50,487 --> 00:17:54,114
- (phone ringing)
- After dating long distance
for a while,
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I called her up and proposed
to her over the phone.
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She said yes,
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and we began planning for
a Chicago wedding in June.
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00:18:04,417 --> 00:18:07,378
(somber piano music playing)
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00:18:07,379 --> 00:18:10,715
That December, between
our engagement and the wedding,
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my sister Mary Jean
passed away.
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00:18:13,677 --> 00:18:15,761
And, of course, the death
of their only daughter
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00:18:15,762 --> 00:18:18,807
was absolutely crushing
for Mom and Dad.
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00:18:19,766 --> 00:18:22,560
Even now, it's painful
to think about,
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and I've blocked
all the memories
surrounding her death.
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00:18:27,357 --> 00:18:29,733
("Bridal Chorus" by
Richard Wagner playing)
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00:18:29,734 --> 00:18:32,111
After that dark winter,
our summer wedding
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00:18:32,112 --> 00:18:33,863
was a welcome respite.
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Dad was my best man and
very proud of his son that day.
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00:18:40,286 --> 00:18:41,620
(music fades out)
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Turner Advertising
was already
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one of the larger billboard
companies in the South
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by the summer of 1962,
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00:18:48,253 --> 00:18:50,462
when my father
put together a deal
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that would make it
the biggest.
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00:18:52,590 --> 00:18:55,092
To afford the deal,
my father had to finance
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nearly all of
the purchase price.
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As my professional life
was humming along,
433
00:19:00,265 --> 00:19:02,099
I was racing on weekends.
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00:19:02,100 --> 00:19:05,102
And when Judy went
into labor on Saturday,
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00:19:05,103 --> 00:19:08,147
I was sailing
and missed the actual birth.
436
00:19:08,148 --> 00:19:12,110
The fall of 1962
was an exciting time.
437
00:19:12,110 --> 00:19:14,278
Dad was elated,
the most energized
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00:19:14,279 --> 00:19:15,947
I'd ever seen him.
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00:19:15,947 --> 00:19:18,824
(dial tone, phone ringing)
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00:19:18,825 --> 00:19:20,784
My phone rang,
and it was my father
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00:19:20,785 --> 00:19:22,703
calling from South Carolina.
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00:19:22,704 --> 00:19:24,538
He said he was calling me
to tell me
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he was selling a large chunk
of the company,
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00:19:27,709 --> 00:19:31,628
all of the recent acquisitions
and major market operations
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to a competitor, Bob Naegele.
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00:19:35,050 --> 00:19:38,719
I couldn't believe it.
I was literally stunned.
447
00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:41,180
And then, I tried
to talk him out of it.
448
00:19:41,181 --> 00:19:44,850
My shock gave way to anger
and I said, "Dad,
449
00:19:44,851 --> 00:19:47,061
"all my life, you taught me
to work hard
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"and not be a quitter.
451
00:19:48,563 --> 00:19:50,689
"And now, you're the one
who's quitting.
452
00:19:50,690 --> 00:19:53,318
What's happened to you?
How could you do this?"
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00:19:54,194 --> 00:19:57,614
Dad remained surprisingly
calm and unmoved.
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00:19:58,365 --> 00:20:00,908
I hung up the phone,
dazed and disappointed.
455
00:20:00,909 --> 00:20:02,577
(slams phone, bell echoing)
456
00:20:03,703 --> 00:20:05,204
(line ringing)
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00:20:05,205 --> 00:20:07,039
Just a few days later,
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00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:09,875
I got another call
from South Carolina.
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00:20:09,876 --> 00:20:12,420
And this time, it was
my stepmother Jane.
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00:20:13,963 --> 00:20:17,467
After Jimmy Brown served him
and Jane a relaxed breakfast,
461
00:20:18,343 --> 00:20:21,095
Dad had walked up
to his bathroom,
462
00:20:21,096 --> 00:20:22,554
climbed in the tub...
463
00:20:22,555 --> 00:20:24,390
(gunshot)
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00:20:24,391 --> 00:20:26,684
...and shot himself.
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00:20:26,685 --> 00:20:29,646
(siren wailing)
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00:20:31,272 --> 00:20:33,691
Jimmy Brown was the first
to reach my father,
467
00:20:33,692 --> 00:20:36,902
rushing up the stairs
after hearing the gunshot.
468
00:20:36,903 --> 00:20:38,445
Dad was still
clinging to life,
469
00:20:38,446 --> 00:20:40,280
but passed away
before an ambulance
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00:20:40,281 --> 00:20:41,908
could get him to a hospital.
471
00:20:42,409 --> 00:20:45,119
And after rushing to find him
in that bathroom,
472
00:20:45,120 --> 00:20:47,538
he'd also been given
the grim task of cleaning
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00:20:47,539 --> 00:20:50,959
that awful mess up
after my father was gone.
474
00:20:51,292 --> 00:20:54,294
(somber music playing)
475
00:20:54,295 --> 00:20:56,547
He suffered from
manic mood swings
476
00:20:56,548 --> 00:20:59,258
where he'd be
real up one day,
477
00:20:59,259 --> 00:21:02,971
and then crash emotionally
and be real down the next.
478
00:21:03,763 --> 00:21:06,850
It was a very difficult time
for him and for me.
479
00:21:07,392 --> 00:21:09,977
And, you know, my dad has
never gotten over that.
480
00:21:09,978 --> 00:21:13,480
"How could my dad have done that
481
00:21:13,481 --> 00:21:15,983
"to me? And hurt me?
482
00:21:15,984 --> 00:21:18,318
Couldn't he have
stayed around for me?"
483
00:21:18,319 --> 00:21:20,864
I would imagine that
Dad felt some...
484
00:21:21,990 --> 00:21:24,158
guilt for that. You know?
You would have to.
485
00:21:24,159 --> 00:21:25,744
Like, "Why didn't I know?
486
00:21:25,744 --> 00:21:27,245
Why didn't he talk
to me about it?"
487
00:21:27,245 --> 00:21:29,121
The same thing if you had
a child that committed suicide,
488
00:21:29,122 --> 00:21:30,290
that you would blame yourself.
489
00:21:30,874 --> 00:21:32,791
Turner:
My memories of
the hours and days
490
00:21:32,792 --> 00:21:35,836
after learning of his death
are hazy.
491
00:21:35,837 --> 00:21:37,838
I was in shock.
492
00:21:37,839 --> 00:21:40,383
I felt I had
lost my best friend.
493
00:21:42,677 --> 00:21:45,679
(light piano music playing)
494
00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:48,725
- (birds chirping)
- (stream flowing)
495
00:21:50,226 --> 00:21:52,478
Jimmy loved and respected Dad.
496
00:21:52,479 --> 00:21:53,771
And on top of his grief,
497
00:21:53,772 --> 00:21:56,648
he was now faced
with an uncertain future.
498
00:21:56,649 --> 00:22:00,152
After my father, Jimmy was
my closest friend in the world.
499
00:22:00,153 --> 00:22:02,029
And without hesitation,
500
00:22:02,030 --> 00:22:05,616
I assured him he'd always have
a place in the Turner family.
501
00:22:05,617 --> 00:22:08,453
I think Jimmy was
a lot of continuity.
502
00:22:08,453 --> 00:22:11,121
And I think there was
a grounding thing for Ted.
503
00:22:11,122 --> 00:22:14,875
And I think there's very few
grounding things for Ted
504
00:22:14,876 --> 00:22:17,461
and, and things that really
505
00:22:17,462 --> 00:22:19,171
brought him back to the earth.
506
00:22:19,172 --> 00:22:23,426
And I think Jimmy Brown
was probably that one thing.
507
00:22:24,844 --> 00:22:28,889
While I was in the army, uh,
508
00:22:28,890 --> 00:22:32,685
getting close
to the end of my term,
509
00:22:32,686 --> 00:22:36,647
which was two years,
I got a phone call from Ted.
510
00:22:36,648 --> 00:22:40,402
He said, "Well,
my father's killed himself,
511
00:22:41,111 --> 00:22:43,821
"and I am fighting
512
00:22:43,822 --> 00:22:47,157
"to keep ownership
of the company,
513
00:22:47,158 --> 00:22:49,201
fighting against Bob Naegele."
514
00:22:49,202 --> 00:22:53,080
So, he just couldn't see himself
515
00:22:53,081 --> 00:22:55,541
walking away from this company
516
00:22:55,542 --> 00:22:58,585
that his father had, uh,
had built.
517
00:22:58,586 --> 00:23:00,171
Turner:
Truth be told,
518
00:23:00,171 --> 00:23:01,922
I doubt that
most people thought
519
00:23:01,923 --> 00:23:04,843
I was up to running
the business anyway.
520
00:23:04,843 --> 00:23:07,052
After all,
it wasn't long before that
521
00:23:07,053 --> 00:23:09,680
that my father had declined
on giving me
522
00:23:09,681 --> 00:23:12,558
even the top job
in the Atlanta operation.
523
00:23:12,559 --> 00:23:14,852
He said, "Teddy,
you're just not gonna make it."
524
00:23:14,853 --> 00:23:18,689
But, it was,
"I really want to show him,
525
00:23:18,690 --> 00:23:20,524
prove to him that
I could do it."
526
00:23:20,525 --> 00:23:23,027
For whatever reason,
when his dad was around,
527
00:23:23,028 --> 00:23:24,612
he was always a failure.
528
00:23:25,321 --> 00:23:28,825
Turner:
Turner Advertising represented
my father's life's work.
529
00:23:29,451 --> 00:23:30,909
He loved the company,
530
00:23:30,910 --> 00:23:33,454
and what he'd really
want me to do
531
00:23:33,455 --> 00:23:35,080
was to save it.
532
00:23:35,081 --> 00:23:37,124
Naegele made it
very clear to me
533
00:23:37,125 --> 00:23:40,127
that while he admired my father
and mourned his death,
534
00:23:40,128 --> 00:23:43,714
he had no intention
of going back on the deal.
535
00:23:43,715 --> 00:23:46,967
Naegele's acquisition documents
neglected to place
536
00:23:46,968 --> 00:23:49,803
non-compete clauses
on any of our employees,
537
00:23:49,804 --> 00:23:53,057
so there were no legal issues
holding us back.
538
00:23:53,058 --> 00:23:56,143
(multiple phones ringing)
539
00:23:56,144 --> 00:23:58,812
My team and I worked
the phones feverishly,
540
00:23:58,813 --> 00:24:01,899
and within a matter of days,
we caused significant damage
541
00:24:01,900 --> 00:24:04,651
to the assets Naegele
hoped to acquire.
542
00:24:04,652 --> 00:24:06,987
(phones hanging up,
ringing stops)
543
00:24:06,988 --> 00:24:10,908
If I agreed to return all
the leases and simply go away,
544
00:24:10,909 --> 00:24:14,495
he would pay me
$200,000 cash.
545
00:24:14,496 --> 00:24:17,081
My other option,
if I wanted to retain
546
00:24:17,082 --> 00:24:18,916
the general outdoor assets,
547
00:24:18,917 --> 00:24:21,336
was to pay $200,000 to Naegele.
548
00:24:22,962 --> 00:24:25,964
I agreed on the spot that
I would take the second option.
549
00:24:25,965 --> 00:24:28,051
(typewriter clacking)
550
00:24:29,761 --> 00:24:33,765
Guys like Naegele would've been
in a 90% tax bracket,
551
00:24:33,765 --> 00:24:37,644
so taking this cash now
would not be much of a deal.
552
00:24:38,395 --> 00:24:41,146
Armed with that knowledge,
and short on cash,
553
00:24:41,147 --> 00:24:43,941
we went back and offered
to pay them $200,000
554
00:24:43,942 --> 00:24:46,027
in Turner Advertising stock.
555
00:24:47,904 --> 00:24:49,321
They accepted my offer.
556
00:24:49,322 --> 00:24:52,032
(upbeat dramatic music playing)
557
00:24:52,033 --> 00:24:54,368
I had kept the company
out of Naegele's hands,
558
00:24:54,369 --> 00:24:57,288
and it didn't cost me
a single dollar of cash.
559
00:24:57,831 --> 00:25:00,542
It was beyond my control
to save Dad,
560
00:25:01,292 --> 00:25:04,545
but I'd done everything
I could to save his company.
561
00:25:04,546 --> 00:25:07,131
I knew he would've
been pleased.
562
00:25:07,132 --> 00:25:09,883
He said, "I'd like you
to consider coming to work."
563
00:25:09,884 --> 00:25:12,302
He said, "You know, I'd like to
have some people around me
564
00:25:12,303 --> 00:25:14,346
that I trust
and have confidence in."
565
00:25:14,347 --> 00:25:15,974
So, that's what I did.
566
00:25:16,391 --> 00:25:19,351
Turner:
Judy was in Macon
taking care of Laura Lee
567
00:25:19,352 --> 00:25:22,397
and preparing to deliver
our second child.
568
00:25:23,106 --> 00:25:26,735
I was proud to name my first
son Robert Edward Turner IV.
569
00:25:28,278 --> 00:25:31,071
Adding a second child
to our family, though,
570
00:25:31,072 --> 00:25:34,533
would not change the dynamics
between Judy and me.
571
00:25:34,534 --> 00:25:37,536
Our marriage was simply
not going to work.
572
00:25:37,537 --> 00:25:38,996
I had a real difficulty
573
00:25:38,997 --> 00:25:41,749
putting my bachelor lifestyle
behind me.
574
00:25:41,750 --> 00:25:44,001
Fonda:
The father had many mistresses.
575
00:25:44,002 --> 00:25:46,587
The father told Ted that
576
00:25:46,588 --> 00:25:48,005
women were a dime a dozen.
577
00:25:48,006 --> 00:25:49,673
It's like a bus.
If you miss one,
578
00:25:49,674 --> 00:25:51,842
then another one
will come along.
579
00:25:51,843 --> 00:25:54,012
And that you weren't
really a man
580
00:25:54,012 --> 00:25:56,555
unless you had
many mistresses.
581
00:25:56,556 --> 00:25:59,266
- (plane roaring)
- (beeping)
582
00:25:59,267 --> 00:26:01,393
Turner:
Judy decided to move
back to Chicago
583
00:26:01,394 --> 00:26:03,562
to be closer to her family.
584
00:26:03,563 --> 00:26:05,689
And while divorce
is never easy,
585
00:26:05,690 --> 00:26:07,359
it was particularly
hard for me
586
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:10,527
to be separated
from my two young children.
587
00:26:10,528 --> 00:26:12,197
With Judy and the kids gone,
588
00:26:12,197 --> 00:26:14,449
I found myself
needing companionship.
589
00:26:15,241 --> 00:26:16,742
Her name was Jane Smith,
590
00:26:16,743 --> 00:26:18,702
and the attraction
was immediate.
591
00:26:18,703 --> 00:26:20,913
And after dating
for almost a year,
592
00:26:20,914 --> 00:26:23,457
we flew to Las Vegas
for a quick wedding,
593
00:26:23,458 --> 00:26:26,127
then settled together in
a modest Atlanta apartment.
594
00:26:26,836 --> 00:26:29,588
Before long, we welcomed
our first child together.
595
00:26:29,589 --> 00:26:32,800
A boy we named Rhett,
after my favorite
fictional character,
596
00:26:32,801 --> 00:26:34,010
Rhett Butler.
597
00:26:34,803 --> 00:26:38,138
By this time,
Judy had remarried.
598
00:26:38,139 --> 00:26:41,308
When Laura and Teddy,
now 7 and 5 years old,
599
00:26:41,309 --> 00:26:45,104
came to Atlanta for a customary
Christmas holiday visit,
600
00:26:45,105 --> 00:26:46,980
something was clearly wrong.
601
00:26:46,981 --> 00:26:48,649
You know, it's funny
because you don't know
602
00:26:48,650 --> 00:26:51,402
what memories you really have
and what you don't have.
603
00:26:51,403 --> 00:26:54,447
I have fleeting memories.
604
00:26:56,032 --> 00:26:58,575
You know, whether they were
Laura's memories or my memorie--
605
00:26:58,576 --> 00:27:01,286
But yeah, no,
you didn't wanna be with...
606
00:27:01,287 --> 00:27:02,955
Big Pete,
is what we call him.
607
00:27:02,956 --> 00:27:05,249
He had a bit of
a steroid problem.
608
00:27:05,250 --> 00:27:08,127
He had a bit of a chemical
problem, drinking problem.
609
00:27:08,128 --> 00:27:10,088
You know,
he had some anger issues,
610
00:27:10,088 --> 00:27:12,172
and, uh,
and he took it out a good bit.
611
00:27:12,173 --> 00:27:14,174
I'm sure on my mom as well,
612
00:27:14,175 --> 00:27:16,176
um, but took it out
on Laura and I.
613
00:27:16,177 --> 00:27:17,803
But, we moved in
with my dad and Janie
614
00:27:17,804 --> 00:27:21,807
because it was a,
a horribly abusive situation,
615
00:27:21,808 --> 00:27:24,935
and, uh, and Dad didn't wanna
send us back.
616
00:27:24,936 --> 00:27:27,021
And we had Rhett,
so we had, you know,
617
00:27:27,022 --> 00:27:28,480
a brother and Christmas trees.
618
00:27:28,481 --> 00:27:32,277
And, you know,
it was not an apartment
619
00:27:32,277 --> 00:27:36,031
and definitely was
a better situation, for sure.
620
00:27:37,073 --> 00:27:39,867
(gentle music playing)
621
00:27:39,868 --> 00:27:42,036
Turner:
In January of 1968,
622
00:27:42,037 --> 00:27:45,039
Janie gave birth
to a second boy,
623
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:48,625
Reed Beauregard Turner,
whom we call Beau.
624
00:27:48,626 --> 00:27:50,128
The following February,
625
00:27:50,128 --> 00:27:52,796
when our daughter
Sarah Jean was born,
626
00:27:52,797 --> 00:27:55,507
we suddenly had five children
under the age of 8
627
00:27:55,508 --> 00:27:57,718
living under our roof.
628
00:27:57,719 --> 00:27:59,512
We had the big basement, and...
629
00:28:00,597 --> 00:28:02,056
and y'all was kinda
growing up there.
630
00:28:02,057 --> 00:28:03,183
And Beau was--
631
00:28:03,892 --> 00:28:06,560
Beau hadn't even
just started walking,
632
00:28:06,561 --> 00:28:08,896
and, uh,
Jennie was a baby then.
633
00:28:08,897 --> 00:28:10,397
I mean,
people don't understand,
634
00:28:10,398 --> 00:28:13,233
Jimmy lived with us 24/7.
635
00:28:13,234 --> 00:28:14,526
Literally 24/7.
636
00:28:14,527 --> 00:28:17,863
I couldn't understand
why Jimmy, like...
637
00:28:17,864 --> 00:28:19,198
as a kid, it was just normal.
638
00:28:19,199 --> 00:28:20,407
But now I think about it,
639
00:28:20,408 --> 00:28:23,828
and Jimmy had no life but us.
640
00:28:23,828 --> 00:28:25,662
And it was a crazy life.
641
00:28:25,663 --> 00:28:27,498
And Jimmy was this,
642
00:28:27,499 --> 00:28:31,043
you know, kind of stoic
Southern gentleman,
643
00:28:31,044 --> 00:28:33,504
(laughs) you know,
living in this, uh,
644
00:28:33,505 --> 00:28:35,673
in this kind of,
you know, circus.
645
00:28:35,674 --> 00:28:37,508
You know,
if Dad was a ringmaster,
646
00:28:37,509 --> 00:28:39,551
Jimmy was a guy that
set everything up
647
00:28:39,552 --> 00:28:41,346
and took everything down.
648
00:28:41,346 --> 00:28:43,847
From my first memory,
Jimmy's there.
649
00:28:43,848 --> 00:28:46,433
My parents traveled a lot.
650
00:28:46,434 --> 00:28:49,603
And so, that,
that's not easy on children.
651
00:28:49,604 --> 00:28:51,230
But, for us it was,
652
00:28:51,231 --> 00:28:54,233
because Jimmy was
like a surrogate mother,
653
00:28:54,234 --> 00:28:58,237
a surrogate father, you know,
and he loved it.
654
00:28:58,238 --> 00:29:01,032
The w--
The awe and the wonder
655
00:29:01,032 --> 00:29:03,075
and the opportunity
came from Ted.
656
00:29:03,076 --> 00:29:04,618
You know, there's no doubt.
657
00:29:04,619 --> 00:29:07,621
Um, but, the grounding
came from Jimmy Brown.
658
00:29:07,622 --> 00:29:09,957
He gave up getting
married himself,
659
00:29:09,958 --> 00:29:12,002
having children himself.
660
00:29:13,253 --> 00:29:14,963
We were his children.
661
00:29:16,089 --> 00:29:18,882
And so, we were his family.
662
00:29:18,883 --> 00:29:21,553
And he knew we needed him.
663
00:29:21,553 --> 00:29:23,429
(cool jazz music playing)
664
00:29:23,430 --> 00:29:26,432
Turner:
I wasn't there
as much as I'd wished,
665
00:29:26,433 --> 00:29:29,436
but my children always knew
that I loved them.
666
00:29:31,896 --> 00:29:35,065
Meanwhile, the company
continued to move at a pace
667
00:29:35,066 --> 00:29:37,736
every bit as hectic
as my personal life.
668
00:29:38,611 --> 00:29:41,655
We decided to start
our diversification efforts
669
00:29:41,656 --> 00:29:43,950
by going after
radio properties.
670
00:29:45,535 --> 00:29:47,161
Regardless of the reasons,
671
00:29:47,162 --> 00:29:50,456
I simply wasn't around as much
as I probably should've been.
672
00:29:50,457 --> 00:29:52,958
Take that sheet down,
and put it on the deck!
673
00:29:52,959 --> 00:29:54,793
I had found my sport,
674
00:29:54,794 --> 00:29:57,296
and nothing was going
to stop me now.
675
00:29:57,297 --> 00:29:59,340
He was doing a lot of sailing,
676
00:29:59,341 --> 00:30:01,801
but not much business
because, by now,
677
00:30:02,802 --> 00:30:05,012
we were throwing off
a lot of cash.
678
00:30:05,013 --> 00:30:06,805
It, it was very good business.
679
00:30:06,806 --> 00:30:08,725
About that time,
680
00:30:08,975 --> 00:30:12,354
uh, Jack Rice, who owned
Rice Broadcasting,
681
00:30:12,771 --> 00:30:14,021
uh...
682
00:30:14,022 --> 00:30:16,483
figured Turner might
be an easy touch
683
00:30:17,484 --> 00:30:19,486
to buy his losing deal...
684
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,780
and-- UHF TV station,
685
00:30:22,781 --> 00:30:24,990
and, uh, Ted went for it.
686
00:30:24,991 --> 00:30:27,368
I'm a multifaceted person.
687
00:30:27,369 --> 00:30:29,495
- I've got a lot of
different personalities.
- speaker: I don't--
688
00:30:29,496 --> 00:30:31,663
You oughta see me at midnight
on a full moon.
689
00:30:31,664 --> 00:30:33,123
(laughter)
690
00:30:33,124 --> 00:30:34,792
Here it comes. (growls)
691
00:30:34,793 --> 00:30:38,796
Unfortunately, the more
I learned about TV stations,
692
00:30:38,797 --> 00:30:41,799
the more I realized
what a disaster we were in.
693
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,678
Bill Tush:
We're just a local
TV station in Atlanta
694
00:30:45,428 --> 00:30:47,554
that went off the air
about three times a day
695
00:30:47,555 --> 00:30:49,807
'cause we didn't have a
transmitter that would stay on.
696
00:30:49,808 --> 00:30:51,558
As far as the early days
were concerned,
697
00:30:51,559 --> 00:30:54,478
you know, as the joke,
as the joke went then, um,
698
00:30:54,479 --> 00:30:57,147
we were number six
in a four-station market.
699
00:30:57,148 --> 00:30:59,066
We used to run
the same movie twice.
700
00:30:59,067 --> 00:31:00,651
We'd run it in the morning,
then run it again
701
00:31:00,652 --> 00:31:02,528
at 11 o'clock at night,
but we got rid of that fast
702
00:31:02,529 --> 00:31:03,987
'cause it made us
look too poor.
703
00:31:03,988 --> 00:31:05,864
Turner:
Our shows were weak,
704
00:31:05,865 --> 00:31:08,992
so I decided to make
programming my top priority.
705
00:31:08,993 --> 00:31:10,577
I love movies, and sure enough,
706
00:31:10,578 --> 00:31:13,163
when we put films on
in late night,
707
00:31:13,164 --> 00:31:15,208
our ratings improved.
708
00:31:15,417 --> 00:31:19,253
We began airing our best films
in Academy Award Theatre,
709
00:31:19,254 --> 00:31:21,423
and I served as
the show's host.
710
00:31:21,631 --> 00:31:24,883
- (telegraph beeping)
- Peter Dames: I said, "You've
never seen 'Citizen Kane'?"
711
00:31:24,884 --> 00:31:27,344
He said, "No."
I said, "Believe me,
712
00:31:27,345 --> 00:31:29,013
you're gonna like it."
713
00:31:29,014 --> 00:31:30,764
"News on the March" narrator:
Its humble beginnings
714
00:31:30,765 --> 00:31:34,435
in this ramshackle building,
a dying daily.
715
00:31:34,436 --> 00:31:36,729
Kane's empire in its glory,
716
00:31:36,730 --> 00:31:40,107
held dominion over
37 newspapers,
717
00:31:40,108 --> 00:31:42,943
two syndicates,
a radio network,
718
00:31:42,944 --> 00:31:46,905
an empire upon an empire.
719
00:31:46,906 --> 00:31:49,451
And from the moment
the movie started,
720
00:31:50,368 --> 00:31:53,203
till it ended,
Turner was mesmerized,
721
00:31:53,204 --> 00:31:56,416
absolutely fascinated
by the, uh...
722
00:31:57,083 --> 00:31:59,376
the storyline, and the,
and the movie itself.
723
00:31:59,377 --> 00:32:02,589
Me and her decided this ain't
the place for you to grow up in.
724
00:32:02,964 --> 00:32:04,382
(characters yell)
725
00:32:04,382 --> 00:32:06,383
What that kid needs
is a good thrashing.
726
00:32:06,384 --> 00:32:08,802
- That's what you think,
is it, Jim?
- Yes.
727
00:32:08,803 --> 00:32:11,764
That's why he's going
to be brought up where
you can't get at him.
728
00:32:11,765 --> 00:32:13,432
Dames:
It just seemed like
729
00:32:13,433 --> 00:32:17,562
there were a lot of parallels
between Kane and Turner.
730
00:32:18,021 --> 00:32:21,315
One of those old families where
the father is worth 10 million,
731
00:32:21,316 --> 00:32:22,941
and then, one day,
he shoots himself,
732
00:32:22,942 --> 00:32:25,070
and it turns out
there's nothing but debts.
733
00:32:25,070 --> 00:32:27,321
- Still the college boy,
aren't you?
- Oh, no, Mr. Thatcher,
734
00:32:27,322 --> 00:32:30,074
I was expelled from college.
A lot of colleges. You remember.
735
00:32:30,075 --> 00:32:32,785
"News on the March" narrator:
The White House
seemingly the next easy step
736
00:32:32,786 --> 00:32:34,662
in a lightning
political career.
737
00:32:35,372 --> 00:32:39,334
Then, suddenly, less than
one week before election,
738
00:32:39,876 --> 00:32:40,919
defeat.
739
00:32:40,919 --> 00:32:42,294
Dames:
I knew he'd like it,
740
00:32:42,295 --> 00:32:44,755
but I didn't know he'd be
totally captivated by it.
741
00:32:44,756 --> 00:32:46,757
Kane was an unusual guy,
742
00:32:46,758 --> 00:32:48,926
and Turner's certainly
an unusual guy.
743
00:32:48,927 --> 00:32:50,344
Mr. Carter,
that's one of the things
744
00:32:50,345 --> 00:32:52,137
that's going to have to be
changed around here.
745
00:32:52,138 --> 00:32:54,933
- The news goes on
for 24 hours a day.
- Twenty-four--
746
00:32:54,933 --> 00:32:56,809
- Excuse me.
- That's right, Mr. Carter.
747
00:32:56,810 --> 00:32:58,143
- Excuse me!
- But, Mr. Kane--
748
00:32:58,144 --> 00:32:59,938
- Excuse me!
- It's impossible!
749
00:32:59,938 --> 00:33:01,313
And I was the news director.
750
00:33:01,314 --> 00:33:02,940
I was the whole
news department, really,
751
00:33:02,941 --> 00:33:05,276
because we didn't have
any staff or any budget.
752
00:33:05,276 --> 00:33:07,779
We had a long-running joke
that once we had
753
00:33:07,779 --> 00:33:09,613
to cut our budget in half
in the news department,
754
00:33:09,614 --> 00:33:11,323
so we canceled
the morning paper.
755
00:33:11,324 --> 00:33:13,951
Not only did he not
756
00:33:13,952 --> 00:33:15,869
know anything about the news,
757
00:33:15,870 --> 00:33:17,621
he wasn't interested
in the news,
758
00:33:17,622 --> 00:33:20,040
because, you know, he wanted
759
00:33:20,041 --> 00:33:23,168
to build this
entertainment empire.
760
00:33:23,169 --> 00:33:25,170
And that's where
Bill Tush came in
761
00:33:25,171 --> 00:33:27,966
with the bag over his head
and with the dog.
762
00:33:27,966 --> 00:33:30,300
For more on that story,
here's Rex. Rex?
763
00:33:30,301 --> 00:33:31,844
Dames: That was, you know,
764
00:33:31,845 --> 00:33:35,139
a fulfillment
of an obligation
765
00:33:35,140 --> 00:33:37,182
that Turner really wished
766
00:33:37,183 --> 00:33:39,143
that he didn't have
to have any news.
767
00:33:39,144 --> 00:33:40,437
- (panting)
- Thank you, Rex.
768
00:33:40,729 --> 00:33:44,691
We were the only children ever
forced to watch television.
769
00:33:44,983 --> 00:33:46,860
Um, we watched a lot of TV.
770
00:33:47,235 --> 00:33:50,320
But, we got smart at the end,
and we always made sure
771
00:33:50,321 --> 00:33:52,489
that channels were
turned back to 17
772
00:33:52,490 --> 00:33:54,199
when we quit
watching something else,
773
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:55,325
so we could fool him
774
00:33:55,326 --> 00:33:56,702
'cause if he ever
turned on the TV,
775
00:33:56,703 --> 00:33:58,245
and it wasn't on 17,
776
00:33:58,246 --> 00:34:01,040
he wouldn't get mad,
but he was definitely--
777
00:34:01,041 --> 00:34:02,499
It was an issue.
778
00:34:02,500 --> 00:34:04,877
After Turner
bought channel 17, we--
779
00:34:04,878 --> 00:34:08,381
And we were losing
$100,000, $200,000 a month.
780
00:34:09,549 --> 00:34:12,885
And somewhere along the line,
781
00:34:12,886 --> 00:34:15,596
someone who owned
a TV station in Charlotte,
782
00:34:15,597 --> 00:34:17,723
a UHF station
783
00:34:17,724 --> 00:34:19,892
in Charlotte, North Carolina,
784
00:34:19,893 --> 00:34:22,979
was going down the tubes 'cause
he was losing so much money.
785
00:34:23,897 --> 00:34:27,400
And he heard about this guy,
Turner, and he thought,
786
00:34:28,818 --> 00:34:30,861
"Well, maybe he'll
buy my loser."
787
00:34:30,862 --> 00:34:32,029
Which he did.
788
00:34:32,030 --> 00:34:33,906
Turner:
I was convinced that TV
789
00:34:33,907 --> 00:34:35,699
was where I wanted to be.
790
00:34:35,700 --> 00:34:38,869
I renamed the Charlotte station
W-R-E-T,
791
00:34:38,870 --> 00:34:40,537
which happened
to be my initials,
792
00:34:40,538 --> 00:34:42,206
and quickly discovered
793
00:34:42,207 --> 00:34:45,125
that despite the better-looking
physical plant and equipment,
794
00:34:45,126 --> 00:34:48,253
the operation was
in poor financial shape.
795
00:34:48,254 --> 00:34:50,214
My first job at the station
796
00:34:50,215 --> 00:34:54,051
was painting a big closet
and cleaning it out,
797
00:34:54,052 --> 00:34:56,221
of which I was exemplary.
798
00:34:56,221 --> 00:34:59,640
So, I was still at the bottom.
And one day,
799
00:34:59,641 --> 00:35:01,225
Ted walked into
the sales office,
800
00:35:01,226 --> 00:35:03,811
and everybody was there.
It's about 6 o'clock at night.
801
00:35:03,812 --> 00:35:07,398
He said, "I just bought this
station in Charlotte, WRET.
802
00:35:07,399 --> 00:35:10,734
"I'm losing
$50,000 a month on it.
803
00:35:10,735 --> 00:35:14,738
"I don't have the money to lose.
It could bankrupt all of us.
804
00:35:14,739 --> 00:35:17,950
"It, it would be very smart
of one or several of you
805
00:35:17,951 --> 00:35:21,662
to get up there and help me fix
this thing. Who's going?"
806
00:35:21,663 --> 00:35:24,331
And I mean, everybody jumped
under their desks,
807
00:35:24,332 --> 00:35:26,291
ran to the men's room,
did everything that--
808
00:35:26,292 --> 00:35:28,336
I mean,
nobody wanted a piece of that.
809
00:35:28,962 --> 00:35:30,587
I was the last guy.
810
00:35:30,588 --> 00:35:32,841
I raised my hand
and said, "I'll go."
811
00:35:33,091 --> 00:35:35,467
Um, I was in the car
the next day
812
00:35:35,468 --> 00:35:36,636
heading for Charlotte.
813
00:35:37,345 --> 00:35:39,596
Turner:
We'd even missed the payroll.
814
00:35:39,597 --> 00:35:41,598
We didn't have
enough money for it
815
00:35:41,599 --> 00:35:42,933
in the bank
to clear those checks.
816
00:35:42,934 --> 00:35:44,435
I said, "I'm gonna
give you the checks,
817
00:35:44,436 --> 00:35:46,603
"but you can't cash 'em.
818
00:35:46,604 --> 00:35:48,106
"You know, gotta hold them
till next week
819
00:35:48,106 --> 00:35:49,733
and see if we get
a little money coming in."
820
00:35:50,859 --> 00:35:52,443
We were
in such bad shape that
821
00:35:52,444 --> 00:35:54,778
I was a year
behind on my payments.
822
00:35:54,779 --> 00:35:56,155
They said, "If you don't
make a payment,
823
00:35:56,156 --> 00:35:57,364
"we're gonna pull
the equipment out,
824
00:35:57,365 --> 00:35:58,449
and you're gonna go dark."
825
00:35:58,450 --> 00:36:00,034
And then,
it would've been over.
826
00:36:00,035 --> 00:36:02,036
And then, everything
would've gone down
827
00:36:02,037 --> 00:36:05,164
because when Charlotte went
and like the dominoes,
828
00:36:05,165 --> 00:36:06,790
Atlanta would've gone, too,
829
00:36:06,791 --> 00:36:09,376
because I was late on
my bills there, too.
830
00:36:09,377 --> 00:36:12,839
(smash, dust settling)
831
00:36:19,596 --> 00:36:22,724
(light music playing)
832
00:36:38,573 --> 00:36:41,701
♪
833
00:37:41,261 --> 00:37:43,263
(music fades out)
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