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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:01:19,254 --> 00:01:20,964 Yes, hot diggity dog. 2 00:01:21,049 --> 00:01:22,801 It's 7:00 in Wimberley, Texas. 3 00:01:22,887 --> 00:01:27,224 Toddy and Pooch are back the controls here at KWVH. 4 00:01:27,313 --> 00:01:30,416 Tonight, well, we have something a little different. 5 00:01:30,603 --> 00:01:33,705 In our endless search for get your feet to move, 6 00:01:33,788 --> 00:01:36,244 and wagging the tail, we have a very special guest. 7 00:01:36,331 --> 00:01:39,334 Very special, well, It doesn't even begin to cover it, 8 00:01:39,421 --> 00:01:40,839 TRUE? 9 00:01:40,924 --> 00:01:43,051 Our guest has won more Grammy Awards 10 00:01:43,136 --> 00:01:45,430 of which I could tell: three for Best Album. 11 00:01:45,516 --> 00:01:48,035 Two-time Hall Member of Rock and Roll Fame. 12 00:01:49,316 --> 00:01:52,235 down in the valley 13 00:01:52,322 --> 00:01:54,866 a talk show 14 00:01:54,953 --> 00:01:57,872 15 00:01:57,959 --> 00:01:59,626 It appears in front more than half 16 00:01:59,712 --> 00:02:02,090 million people on multiple occasions. 17 00:02:04,138 --> 00:02:09,811 a cambric shirt 18 00:02:12,531 --> 00:02:18,245 rosemary and thyme 19 00:02:18,333 --> 00:02:19,712 20 00:02:19,794 --> 00:02:21,172 21 00:02:21,257 --> 00:02:22,258 22 00:02:22,342 --> 00:02:23,702 23 00:02:23,787 --> 00:02:25,454 From New York, It's Saturday night! 24 00:02:25,536 --> 00:02:29,103 With Paul Simon, who is one of the great performers of all time 25 00:02:29,190 --> 00:02:30,442 on Saturday night live. 26 00:02:30,526 --> 00:02:31,685 Once again, Paul Simรณn. 27 00:02:31,770 --> 00:02:33,813 Once again, Paul Simรณn! 28 00:02:37,540 --> 00:02:38,833 We will stay at the Pierre and 29 00:02:38,918 --> 00:02:40,545 we will meet Jack and Angelica 30 00:02:40,630 --> 00:02:42,117 and have a drink there. 31 00:02:42,198 --> 00:02:45,144 And if you want to come, we would love to have you. 32 00:02:45,232 --> 00:02:46,608 Act in a winning film 33 00:02:46,693 --> 00:02:47,894 Oscar for Best Picture. 34 00:02:47,979 --> 00:02:49,064 It's not a great deal. 35 00:02:49,148 --> 00:02:50,983 It is simply relax, be very calm. 36 00:02:51,068 --> 00:02:52,361 Fresco. 37 00:02:52,446 --> 00:02:54,031 Do you remember we had that thing? 38 00:02:54,116 --> 00:02:55,743 What thing? 39 00:02:58,249 --> 00:03:00,044 40 00:03:00,129 --> 00:03:01,881 41 00:03:01,966 --> 00:03:03,593 42 00:03:03,677 --> 00:03:05,679 43 00:03:05,766 --> 00:03:07,392 44 00:03:07,477 --> 00:03:09,270 45 00:03:09,356 --> 00:03:12,025 And even more important that all that is 46 00:03:12,112 --> 00:03:14,637 which is simply the best composer. 47 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:17,245 in music history American popular. 48 00:03:17,331 --> 00:03:18,874 We love you, Pablo! 49 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:20,586 "I Know What I Know" from "Graceland." 50 00:03:20,671 --> 00:03:22,471 I can't believe that I can say this. 51 00:03:22,553 --> 00:03:24,301 Paul Simon join us today. 52 00:03:24,387 --> 00:03:26,806 ยกEh! 53 00:03:26,892 --> 00:03:28,044 Thanks, Todd. Thanks, Ben. 54 00:03:28,128 --> 00:03:30,688 The composers, I mean, obviously, you in particular, 55 00:03:30,771 --> 00:03:32,735 one of the things that I have always wondered, 56 00:03:32,821 --> 00:03:35,373 You know, once you were writing your own material 57 00:03:35,459 --> 00:03:37,628 and being successful in rock and roll whirlwind, 58 00:03:37,714 --> 00:03:40,168 You know, I contacted you, how did you experience the music? 59 00:03:40,253 --> 00:03:42,088 Or how are you still doing today? 60 00:03:42,174 --> 00:03:43,641 so there is different... you know, 61 00:03:43,727 --> 00:03:45,929 If your career is writing songs 62 00:03:46,015 --> 00:03:48,601 and, uh, it's a race quite unusual. 63 00:03:48,687 --> 00:03:52,107 I never thought that nothing was a risk. 64 00:03:52,195 --> 00:03:56,949 I really didn't know what song it was on. to be a success and people used to say: 65 00:03:57,038 --> 00:03:59,457 Oh, you've got your finger on the pulse. 66 00:03:59,543 --> 00:04:02,463 And I would think, no, no I have my finger on the pulse. 67 00:04:02,549 --> 00:04:04,009 I only have my finger outside and the pulse 68 00:04:04,093 --> 00:04:06,889 run under him for the moment. 69 00:04:08,394 --> 00:04:11,981 Your skills creative, it's a mystery 70 00:04:12,069 --> 00:04:15,530 why it happens and How long does it last? 71 00:04:15,618 --> 00:04:17,662 I love mystery. 72 00:04:17,747 --> 00:04:19,666 I really love mystery. 73 00:04:50,899 --> 00:04:52,836 Your process seems be something similar to mine, 74 00:04:52,918 --> 00:04:54,998 that is, you gather a lot information and then... 75 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:57,160 That's exactly what is happening. 76 00:04:57,245 --> 00:05:00,081 And then you say, what is the interesting story here? 77 00:05:00,168 --> 00:05:01,295 - That's right. - Know? 78 00:05:06,389 --> 00:05:08,391 How does the story begin? 79 00:05:17,704 --> 00:05:21,666 That's always a question important when writing songs. 80 00:05:24,468 --> 00:05:26,011 What is the sound I want here? 81 00:05:38,580 --> 00:05:41,083 You know, it's like a old saying, guitarists 82 00:05:41,169 --> 00:05:44,005 they spend half their life tuning his guitar. 83 00:05:44,092 --> 00:05:45,885 and the other half out of tune. 84 00:05:49,103 --> 00:05:54,859 so this little guitar...riff 85 00:05:54,948 --> 00:05:56,616 It is a kind of base of the- 86 00:06:12,066 --> 00:06:17,906 On January 15, 2019, I had a dream that said: 87 00:06:17,996 --> 00:06:24,127 you are working on one piece called "Seven Psalms." 88 00:06:24,217 --> 00:06:26,427 And a couple of years ago 89 00:06:26,514 --> 00:06:28,516 that I didn't write anything, 90 00:06:28,601 --> 00:06:30,603 I didn't feel like writing either. 91 00:06:30,688 --> 00:06:31,856 nothing for a couple of years. 92 00:06:33,903 --> 00:06:36,364 The dream was so strong 93 00:06:36,450 --> 00:06:37,785 that I got up and wrote it. 94 00:06:37,870 --> 00:06:41,666 "Seven Psalms, 15 January 2019". 95 00:06:41,752 --> 00:06:43,672 But I had no idea what that meant. 96 00:06:49,227 --> 00:06:52,855 But little by little it went information arriving, such as... 97 00:06:56,283 --> 00:06:59,368 And I'd say, oh, okay, so Maybe that's there, you know. 98 00:06:59,456 --> 00:07:00,833 Maybe this is there. 99 00:07:07,139 --> 00:07:08,482 Let's play it again. 100 00:07:08,566 --> 00:07:10,018 This is the opening of the registry. 101 00:07:10,103 --> 00:07:11,471 I don't think you've heard this. 102 00:07:18,829 --> 00:07:20,664 That's a whale bone. 103 00:07:25,552 --> 00:07:28,221 I try all the time move things in 104 00:07:28,307 --> 00:07:32,645 this type of flow puts you in a dream. 105 00:07:32,733 --> 00:07:36,487 And I think that if you are willing to fall into a space 106 00:07:36,574 --> 00:07:40,078 dreamlike, are you willing to stop judging. 107 00:07:44,006 --> 00:07:46,425 You know, it's like a meditation. 108 00:07:46,512 --> 00:07:49,932 The information that arrives It comes in a purer form. 109 00:07:50,019 --> 00:07:55,024 And you can hear it and feel it clearer and more intense way. 110 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:59,661 How did you hear it a moment ago? 111 00:07:59,747 --> 00:08:03,626 Well, it started out being very aware that you 112 00:08:03,714 --> 00:08:06,675 you are here and the camera It's on, so... 113 00:08:06,761 --> 00:08:11,558 I had to divide my thought between 114 00:08:11,647 --> 00:08:14,692 music and was it a good interpretation? 115 00:08:14,778 --> 00:08:17,364 or, you know, there is a trial in progress. 116 00:08:23,087 --> 00:08:27,216 Now, will they be Are those cameras inhibitory, Paul? 117 00:08:27,304 --> 00:08:29,181 I live with these cameras, Artie. 118 00:08:29,265 --> 00:08:31,268 These cameras, do they ever Have you ever seen them inhibit me? 119 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:41,664 Such a different medium... such a different medium. 120 00:08:44,005 --> 00:08:48,468 I forgot how much I trust the fact 121 00:08:48,556 --> 00:08:51,559 that is: you can emit sounds without being seen. 122 00:08:51,645 --> 00:08:53,898 You can create images without them seeing you. 123 00:08:53,984 --> 00:08:56,654 That's how I-that's how It's how I write, 124 00:08:56,740 --> 00:09:00,327 images but you don't see them, so that in a way you evoke images. 125 00:09:00,414 --> 00:09:03,125 But these are photographs. 126 00:09:05,675 --> 00:09:07,969 I write for several reasons. 127 00:09:08,055 --> 00:09:11,600 I write some songs for the pleasure of writing a song. 128 00:09:11,688 --> 00:09:13,273 It doesn't have any great meaning. 129 00:09:13,357 --> 00:09:14,984 It's just a song. 130 00:09:15,069 --> 00:09:17,488 The songs are beautiful. 131 00:09:17,575 --> 00:09:20,494 People sing songs. children sing 132 00:09:20,581 --> 00:09:23,625 songs all the time for the pleasure of singing. 133 00:09:23,713 --> 00:09:27,800 In some songs you try express yourself emotionally. 134 00:09:27,888 --> 00:09:30,015 Those are songs different for me. 135 00:09:30,100 --> 00:09:34,187 And they express what I feel, and relieve... 136 00:09:34,276 --> 00:09:38,030 Tensions that I feel when I express them. 137 00:09:38,117 --> 00:09:40,502 But I don't think about communicate with anyone. 138 00:09:49,098 --> 00:09:52,018 139 00:09:56,321 --> 00:10:00,784 Growing up, I had like four idols. 140 00:10:00,872 --> 00:10:06,211 Mickey Mantle, Kennedy, Lenny Bruce... 141 00:10:06,300 --> 00:10:08,302 I was like a child very depressed, you know? 142 00:10:08,388 --> 00:10:09,722 And I was seven or eight years old, and 143 00:10:09,808 --> 00:10:11,959 really me exalted and came out of me... 144 00:10:14,359 --> 00:10:17,320 ...y Elvis Presley. 145 00:10:17,407 --> 00:10:19,951 It didn't matter what they did. They fascinated me. 146 00:10:23,252 --> 00:10:26,630 The name Elvis Presley was one of the strangest names. 147 00:10:26,718 --> 00:10:28,261 ever heard. 148 00:10:28,345 --> 00:10:30,272 You know, all that I knew were called, 149 00:10:30,358 --> 00:10:32,936 you know, david Rothbaum or something like that. 150 00:10:33,022 --> 00:10:35,816 151 00:10:35,902 --> 00:10:38,321 152 00:10:38,408 --> 00:10:41,161 I really don't know what kind of experience you have and all that. 153 00:10:41,247 --> 00:10:43,124 Were you... were you... poor? 154 00:10:43,209 --> 00:10:45,128 all the songs, at least in the last 155 00:10:45,213 --> 00:10:46,931 album, which is... Isn't it number one? 156 00:10:47,017 --> 00:10:49,178 Selling album in the country now or has it been? 157 00:10:49,264 --> 00:10:50,174 I think it was. 158 00:10:50,258 --> 00:10:52,018 - "Bridge over troubled waters"? - Yeah. 159 00:10:52,103 --> 00:10:54,046 Uh, there's a lot to travel on rails and... 160 00:10:54,776 --> 00:10:56,527 And all that kind of stuff. 161 00:10:56,613 --> 00:10:58,573 Is that your experience? 162 00:10:58,658 --> 00:11:00,077 Were you a poor child? 163 00:11:00,161 --> 00:11:02,663 No, I was middle class. 164 00:11:02,750 --> 00:11:04,001 Yeah? 165 00:11:04,087 --> 00:11:06,464 I grew up here in New York and Queens. 166 00:11:09,973 --> 00:11:12,935 This is my street, 70th Road. 167 00:11:13,021 --> 00:11:15,190 This was considered almost like the field, 168 00:11:15,275 --> 00:11:17,444 was very far from New York City. 169 00:11:17,531 --> 00:11:19,908 It was the end of the subway line. 170 00:11:19,993 --> 00:11:22,871 Number 62 was my house. 171 00:11:22,959 --> 00:11:24,752 Upstairs was my bedroom. 172 00:11:29,556 --> 00:11:32,475 Paul was the neighbor three blocks away, 173 00:11:32,562 --> 00:11:35,940 who I met in sixth grade grade, so there were 11 of us. 174 00:11:36,027 --> 00:11:38,613 and we were singing from the beginning. 175 00:11:39,994 --> 00:11:42,580 176 00:11:42,666 --> 00:11:44,001 We sang at my house and 177 00:11:44,085 --> 00:11:45,962 we put things on the recorder. 178 00:11:46,047 --> 00:11:48,133 179 00:11:48,219 --> 00:11:50,972 we are starting to harmonize together. 180 00:11:51,058 --> 00:11:54,604 181 00:11:57,195 --> 00:12:00,782 We were elected together for the work Alice in Wonderland. 182 00:12:00,870 --> 00:12:05,333 He was the White Rabbit and I was the Cheshire Cat. 183 00:12:05,421 --> 00:12:08,466 And then, the next year, in high school, We were in the same class. 184 00:12:08,552 --> 00:12:11,055 I saw him form his personality and becoming 185 00:12:11,141 --> 00:12:15,979 who you chose to be, like he did with me. 186 00:12:16,068 --> 00:12:17,527 He is a very unusual guy. 187 00:12:17,613 --> 00:12:19,573 It always was, even when I was ten years old. 188 00:12:19,659 --> 00:12:21,410 He was-he was- 189 00:12:21,496 --> 00:12:23,831 You know, the first time I met him, he was 190 00:12:23,918 --> 00:12:26,170 in a candy store which we used to go to. 191 00:12:26,256 --> 00:12:28,591 after we left school. 192 00:12:28,678 --> 00:12:30,263 And I came... and here There was this child, 193 00:12:30,348 --> 00:12:35,436 And he was waving Good and Plenty boxes. 194 00:12:36,987 --> 00:12:38,697 And finally, and I I was looking at him, 195 00:12:38,781 --> 00:12:41,450 you know, because I was going to buy my Captain Marvel comic. 196 00:12:41,537 --> 00:12:43,580 And I was shaking these Good and Plenty boxes, 197 00:12:43,667 --> 00:12:47,254 and finally, the owner He threw him out of the store, 198 00:12:47,341 --> 00:12:48,884 He said he had to get out. 199 00:12:48,969 --> 00:12:51,888 And I told the guy: "Why did you kick him out?" 200 00:12:51,976 --> 00:12:54,228 And he said, "He everyone comes here 201 00:12:54,314 --> 00:12:56,649 time and shake these boxes to see 202 00:12:56,736 --> 00:12:58,904 which one has more Good and Plenty, and 203 00:12:58,990 --> 00:13:01,617 that's the one buy, you know. " 204 00:13:01,704 --> 00:13:03,998 And now here are some guys who created one of 205 00:13:04,083 --> 00:13:06,919 the best songs in The United States does not do much. 206 00:13:07,007 --> 00:13:10,135 We used to listen to the Top 20 at Artie's house. 207 00:13:10,221 --> 00:13:12,807 And I used to wear a graph of all 208 00:13:12,894 --> 00:13:15,772 songs and we followed them week after week. 209 00:13:15,858 --> 00:13:18,861 I loved that the songs They had numbers, you know? 210 00:13:18,947 --> 00:13:21,283 These songs competed and they were calibrated. 211 00:13:21,370 --> 00:13:23,997 And you could see that the song number seven of the week 212 00:13:24,084 --> 00:13:26,669 passed jumped to the song number two this week. 213 00:13:26,756 --> 00:13:28,583 Well, the math like that 214 00:13:28,668 --> 00:13:30,345 of things came to me somehow. 215 00:13:30,430 --> 00:13:33,683 Somehow I was trapped in that aspect as well as in music. 216 00:13:35,482 --> 00:13:39,736 If you look at it now, you would say that he was obsessive-compulsive. 217 00:13:39,825 --> 00:13:42,744 His handwriting... looks like a typewriter. 218 00:13:44,501 --> 00:13:49,214 the end of times 219 00:13:49,302 --> 00:13:53,390 my favorite group They were the Cleftones. 220 00:13:53,477 --> 00:13:55,688 little, on-yes 221 00:13:55,774 --> 00:13:57,276 "My girl." 222 00:13:57,360 --> 00:13:58,528 223 00:13:58,613 --> 00:14:01,074 224 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:03,871 225 00:14:03,957 --> 00:14:05,792 "Can't we be boyfriend and girlfriend?" 226 00:14:05,878 --> 00:14:08,255 what am I thinking 227 00:14:10,345 --> 00:14:12,598 The Moonglows, que they did "Sincerely." 228 00:14:12,684 --> 00:14:14,811 229 00:14:14,897 --> 00:14:18,233 230 00:14:19,823 --> 00:14:21,742 231 00:14:21,827 --> 00:14:24,663 232 00:14:24,750 --> 00:14:26,919 I liked the Penguins, "Angel of the Earth." 233 00:14:27,005 --> 00:14:29,132 234 00:14:29,218 --> 00:14:31,428 235 00:14:31,515 --> 00:14:33,433 "Promising my love" by Johnny Ace. 236 00:14:33,519 --> 00:14:37,272 237 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:41,280 238 00:14:41,368 --> 00:14:45,330 239 00:14:45,418 --> 00:14:47,003 I don't know, I know 15 or 20 occur where 240 00:14:47,088 --> 00:14:49,715 I say I like them those records a lot. 241 00:14:49,802 --> 00:14:52,846 In fact, they make me feel nostalgic and 242 00:14:52,934 --> 00:14:58,731 bring to mind images of my neighborhood. 243 00:14:58,821 --> 00:15:01,657 how to stand on the corner of this store 244 00:15:01,743 --> 00:15:03,495 of sweets in which everyone was hanging out, 245 00:15:03,581 --> 00:15:06,208 and in summer, we are in the patio 246 00:15:06,295 --> 00:15:08,505 recess, imagine that schoolyard. 247 00:15:18,361 --> 00:15:21,031 My culture was the radio. 248 00:15:21,117 --> 00:15:24,287 It wasn't like he was singing the Queens music, you know? 249 00:15:24,373 --> 00:15:26,042 We didn't have people sitting in 250 00:15:26,127 --> 00:15:27,754 The porches of Queens singing, 251 00:15:27,839 --> 00:15:31,384 you know, fables about how It was Queens in the old days. 252 00:15:31,472 --> 00:15:32,890 There was nothing like that. 253 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:40,403 254 00:15:40,490 --> 00:15:42,909 255 00:15:42,995 --> 00:15:46,082 When I heard "Bye Bye Love" by the Everly brothers, 256 00:15:46,168 --> 00:15:48,504 Immediately I fell in love with her. 257 00:15:48,590 --> 00:15:50,926 258 00:15:51,011 --> 00:15:53,931 The only store records was in Jamaica. 259 00:15:54,018 --> 00:15:56,479 To get there there was to take two buses. 260 00:15:56,564 --> 00:15:59,359 and took me about an hour 261 00:15:59,445 --> 00:16:01,155 get to Jamaica to buy this album. 262 00:16:01,241 --> 00:16:04,160 So I bought the record, I come back, I put it on. 263 00:16:04,248 --> 00:16:06,125 I turn it around, I play the second 264 00:16:06,210 --> 00:16:08,003 face and then I touch it again, 265 00:16:08,088 --> 00:16:10,533 and I hit the record player, and the needle scratched. 266 00:16:11,763 --> 00:16:15,748 I went back to the bus, I traveled Another hour, spent another dollar, 267 00:16:15,832 --> 00:16:19,817 and I didn't have that many anymore, and buy the album again. 268 00:16:19,904 --> 00:16:22,240 I couldn't stand that This was scratched. 269 00:16:22,326 --> 00:16:24,704 270 00:16:24,789 --> 00:16:27,417 I called Artie and told him I said: listen to this. 271 00:16:27,503 --> 00:16:29,881 272 00:16:29,967 --> 00:16:32,511 And we were just learning what harmony was. 273 00:16:34,268 --> 00:16:37,605 274 00:16:37,691 --> 00:16:39,359 275 00:16:39,445 --> 00:16:41,864 Los Everly Brothers They sang in thirds. 276 00:16:41,950 --> 00:16:45,370 Harmony was on top of the melodies. 277 00:16:45,457 --> 00:16:49,127 278 00:16:49,216 --> 00:16:52,135 279 00:16:52,222 --> 00:16:53,306 That's Don singing. 280 00:16:53,390 --> 00:16:55,476 Phil is singing... 281 00:16:55,561 --> 00:16:58,231 282 00:16:58,317 --> 00:17:01,153 283 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:03,575 284 00:17:03,662 --> 00:17:06,248 285 00:17:06,334 --> 00:17:09,629 Then we just practice. I sing like the Everly Brothers. 286 00:17:09,715 --> 00:17:11,926 we had enough Everly brothers in our 287 00:17:12,012 --> 00:17:14,306 minds to know how produce that harmony. 288 00:17:14,391 --> 00:17:17,311 And we write together and we got jealous 289 00:17:17,399 --> 00:17:19,191 of the artists who They recorded on the radio. 290 00:17:19,278 --> 00:17:22,364 and we saw ourselves competing and We learned to do demonstrations. 291 00:17:22,450 --> 00:17:25,036 you are mine 292 00:17:25,122 --> 00:17:26,665 who-bop-a-loo-chi-bop 293 00:17:26,750 --> 00:17:27,711 294 00:17:27,795 --> 00:17:31,298 from the second row 295 00:17:33,431 --> 00:17:34,608 296 00:17:34,692 --> 00:17:36,577 whisper very low 297 00:17:38,233 --> 00:17:39,958 who-bop-a-loo-chi-bop 298 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:42,366 "Hello schoolgirl", we write it when we were 15 years old. 299 00:17:42,448 --> 00:17:45,161 We basically wrote it about our high school. 300 00:17:45,247 --> 00:17:47,381 but there is one more thing 301 00:17:47,464 --> 00:17:49,338 at four thirty 302 00:17:49,423 --> 00:17:50,907 We would go to companies record labels and 303 00:17:50,992 --> 00:17:52,760 we would just play the door, you know. 304 00:17:52,846 --> 00:17:54,466 We would say that we wrote this song. 305 00:17:54,548 --> 00:17:57,735 And, you know, in those days, the People were like, "Oh, really? Come on in." 306 00:17:58,358 --> 00:18:01,402 When we were almost 16 years old, we had recorded this song 307 00:18:01,490 --> 00:18:04,368 for a small company record label called Big Records. 308 00:18:04,454 --> 00:18:06,081 That was in the Brill building, 309 00:18:06,166 --> 00:18:08,418 1619 Broadway. 310 00:18:08,504 --> 00:18:10,756 who-bop-a-loo-chi-bop 311 00:18:10,842 --> 00:18:13,553 The record company put us the name of Tom and Jerry. 312 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:16,434 I was Jerry. 313 00:18:16,521 --> 00:18:18,982 I have a lot to do 314 00:18:19,067 --> 00:18:20,652 The album was a success. 315 00:18:20,737 --> 00:18:23,490 It was presented at the American Bandstand de Dick Clark. 316 00:18:23,576 --> 00:18:25,578 The children danced. 317 00:18:25,664 --> 00:18:28,083 And then we went to The Dick 318 00:18:28,169 --> 00:18:29,754 Clark Show con Jerry Lee Lewis. 319 00:18:32,512 --> 00:18:34,139 I told them on American Bandstand 320 00:18:34,223 --> 00:18:36,308 who came from Macon, Georgia. 321 00:18:36,395 --> 00:18:37,479 I just left. 322 00:18:37,564 --> 00:18:38,815 Where are you guys from? 323 00:18:38,899 --> 00:18:40,526 Macon, Georgia. 324 00:18:40,611 --> 00:18:42,433 He appeared with a southern accent 325 00:18:42,515 --> 00:18:44,034 and was from Macon, Georgia. 326 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:45,787 I kept thinking, why not 327 00:18:45,873 --> 00:18:47,541 Did you tell me you were going to do this? 328 00:18:47,626 --> 00:18:50,463 I could see Artie, like, looking, like, what...? 329 00:18:50,549 --> 00:18:51,508 "Where are you from?" 330 00:18:51,593 --> 00:18:53,178 And he said, "Queens." 331 00:18:53,263 --> 00:18:55,348 from school at 3:00 332 00:18:55,434 --> 00:18:57,728 At that moment I I worked in a shoe store. 333 00:18:57,814 --> 00:19:00,650 But after We went to the American Bandstand, 334 00:19:00,737 --> 00:19:02,197 I came in and the boss, who couldn't 335 00:19:02,281 --> 00:19:04,075 endure, he told me: "You're late." 336 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:06,162 I said, "No, no, I quit." 337 00:19:06,248 --> 00:19:08,584 338 00:19:08,669 --> 00:19:10,338 339 00:19:10,423 --> 00:19:12,842 Even though my father was a bassist... 340 00:19:12,929 --> 00:19:17,100 He led a band in Roseland for about 25 years. 341 00:19:17,187 --> 00:19:19,940 It really wasn't encouraging about 342 00:19:20,026 --> 00:19:23,279 to rock and roll roll as a career. 343 00:19:23,367 --> 00:19:26,620 He thought it was music really stupid. 344 00:19:26,706 --> 00:19:28,675 I said, "Why not Do you like this music?" 345 00:19:28,761 --> 00:19:31,248 He said: "Because it is really stupid. "It's stupid." 346 00:19:31,634 --> 00:19:33,302 I'd say, "Fool?" 347 00:19:33,388 --> 00:19:36,641 "Earth angel." 348 00:19:36,727 --> 00:19:38,672 Earth angel. 349 00:19:39,058 --> 00:19:40,276 Do you see what I'm saying? 350 00:19:40,361 --> 00:19:42,070 I thought that, for me, it was the first time 351 00:19:42,156 --> 00:19:44,024 an ironic sense had entered my life. 352 00:19:44,109 --> 00:19:45,553 in my life, "Angel of the Earth." 353 00:19:46,540 --> 00:19:49,334 He said: "I understand. "I just think it's nonsense." 354 00:19:56,602 --> 00:19:59,435 So we had fun listening some of the first songs. 355 00:19:59,518 --> 00:20:01,151 Oh yeah, what was it? the one you liked? 356 00:20:01,236 --> 00:20:07,492 night and I'm alone 357 00:20:07,583 --> 00:20:11,879 I'm sitting at home 358 00:20:11,967 --> 00:20:14,637 I... I forgot because complete and then I listened to it. 359 00:20:14,723 --> 00:20:17,226 And I said, wow, my voice was very beautiful. 360 00:20:17,311 --> 00:20:19,021 It was a sweet voice. 361 00:20:19,106 --> 00:20:22,818 tonight 362 00:20:25,078 --> 00:20:30,833 a lullaby 363 00:20:30,923 --> 00:20:33,008 364 00:20:33,094 --> 00:20:36,931 365 00:20:37,018 --> 00:20:39,521 366 00:20:39,607 --> 00:20:42,860 My dad was very happy for me to go to Queens College. 367 00:20:42,948 --> 00:20:45,617 which was a free school. 368 00:20:45,704 --> 00:20:48,081 I studied English literature. 369 00:20:48,166 --> 00:20:50,842 And then I got a score very high in law boards 370 00:20:50,925 --> 00:20:52,682 and I went to the Faculty of Brooklyn Law. 371 00:20:52,767 --> 00:20:54,886 But really, from the beginning, 372 00:20:54,973 --> 00:20:57,392 I just said, I don't know what I'm doing here. 373 00:20:57,477 --> 00:21:00,147 I have never wanted to be something else that, you know, 374 00:21:00,233 --> 00:21:03,820 singer and composer since I was 13 years old. 375 00:21:05,995 --> 00:21:09,498 wherever they go 376 00:21:09,586 --> 00:21:14,257 around you they have grown 377 00:21:14,346 --> 00:21:16,139 378 00:21:16,224 --> 00:21:18,769 to the bones 379 00:21:18,855 --> 00:21:21,441 save your time 380 00:21:21,527 --> 00:21:23,196 I started to go down the folk scene 381 00:21:23,281 --> 00:21:25,325 de Village to Bleecker y MacDougal, 382 00:21:25,410 --> 00:21:26,870 and that was really interesting. 383 00:21:26,955 --> 00:21:31,001 384 00:21:31,089 --> 00:21:33,466 That's the first time that I listened to Dylan. 385 00:21:33,552 --> 00:21:36,680 I was singing music for adults. 386 00:21:36,767 --> 00:21:40,646 who prophesy with your pen 387 00:21:40,733 --> 00:21:45,488 the opportunity will not appear again 388 00:21:45,576 --> 00:21:50,081 because the wheel keeps turning 389 00:21:50,169 --> 00:21:53,756 who is naming 390 00:21:53,844 --> 00:21:56,721 now it will be... 391 00:21:56,808 --> 00:21:59,227 I started writing with guitar 392 00:21:59,313 --> 00:22:02,692 acoustics and to find figurines, you know, 393 00:22:02,779 --> 00:22:04,614 to play on acoustic guitar. 394 00:22:09,793 --> 00:22:12,713 my old friend 395 00:22:14,553 --> 00:22:16,722 with you again 396 00:22:16,808 --> 00:22:19,811 I used to go to the bathroom my parents' house. 397 00:22:19,898 --> 00:22:22,567 drag gently 398 00:22:22,653 --> 00:22:25,072 There were tiles in the wall and turned on the water. 399 00:22:25,159 --> 00:22:29,830 while I was sleeping 400 00:22:29,919 --> 00:22:36,258 planted in my brain 401 00:22:36,349 --> 00:22:38,184 And the tile echoed, and the water 402 00:22:38,269 --> 00:22:40,855 it was like a sound of white noise. 403 00:22:40,942 --> 00:22:43,653 404 00:22:43,738 --> 00:22:45,865 405 00:22:47,747 --> 00:22:50,291 I walked alone 406 00:22:50,378 --> 00:22:53,005 I was going to a space which was a zone. 407 00:22:53,091 --> 00:22:55,677 of cobblestones 408 00:22:57,935 --> 00:23:01,522 of a streetlight 409 00:23:01,609 --> 00:23:06,990 There is a very easy flow of creative energy. 410 00:23:07,078 --> 00:23:13,668 by the explosion of a neon light 411 00:23:13,758 --> 00:23:15,510 412 00:23:17,349 --> 00:23:20,728 413 00:23:20,815 --> 00:23:22,859 414 00:23:22,944 --> 00:23:26,197 That thought a second ago 415 00:23:26,285 --> 00:23:28,245 was not here and now I'm crying. 416 00:23:28,331 --> 00:23:29,707 417 00:23:29,792 --> 00:23:32,545 You know, how did that happen? 418 00:23:32,632 --> 00:23:35,468 419 00:23:35,554 --> 00:23:37,056 And how can I do it again? 420 00:23:37,140 --> 00:23:41,394 they hear without listening 421 00:23:41,483 --> 00:23:44,736 422 00:23:44,823 --> 00:23:48,994 423 00:23:49,082 --> 00:23:52,502 424 00:23:52,589 --> 00:23:55,342 425 00:23:55,428 --> 00:23:57,347 426 00:24:04,781 --> 00:24:06,783 Thanks guys. We love your program. 427 00:24:06,868 --> 00:24:08,453 - It's very fun. - Thank you, Edie. 428 00:24:09,541 --> 00:24:11,292 - That's very good. - It was very fun. 429 00:24:11,378 --> 00:24:13,104 We will do it again. We will do it again. 430 00:24:13,189 --> 00:24:15,534 - Oh, yes, stop by whenever you want. - Yes, you know. 431 00:24:15,620 --> 00:24:17,338 I am always here. You pass me by. 432 00:24:17,423 --> 00:24:18,377 You see me at the window. 433 00:24:18,458 --> 00:24:20,811 We are Wimberley people, so we will come back and... 434 00:24:20,897 --> 00:24:22,357 We will return and we will do again. 435 00:24:22,443 --> 00:24:24,353 This is really something incredibly pretty. 436 00:24:24,438 --> 00:24:26,882 We are eager to hear what comes next, 437 00:24:26,965 --> 00:24:27,995 You know, in your career. 438 00:24:28,079 --> 00:24:30,498 Well, when it's Ready, I'll come and bring it to you. 439 00:24:37,515 --> 00:24:41,227 We moved to Texas a few years ago. 440 00:24:41,315 --> 00:24:43,362 And Edie grew up in Paris, Texas, 441 00:24:43,444 --> 00:24:46,906 so your memories most precious are from country. 442 00:24:46,993 --> 00:24:49,037 And she loved the stream. 443 00:24:49,122 --> 00:24:51,625 He liked to walk through the streams. 444 00:24:53,130 --> 00:24:57,593 Then he found a house in Hill Country, not far from Austin. 445 00:24:57,681 --> 00:25:00,100 That was right in this one. really nice stream. 446 00:25:03,151 --> 00:25:05,737 It's really quiet, really peaceful. 447 00:25:05,824 --> 00:25:10,119 I thought, yeah, I'll be happy passing part of my time there. 448 00:25:12,379 --> 00:25:15,423 I moved my studio recording there. 449 00:25:25,197 --> 00:25:27,199 From the beginning from "Seven Psalms", 450 00:25:27,285 --> 00:25:29,284 What I remember most it was playing 451 00:25:29,366 --> 00:25:32,292 this beautiful motif guitar over and over again. 452 00:25:32,378 --> 00:25:34,130 And every time I touched it, 453 00:25:34,215 --> 00:25:37,887 I felt this feeling very good and moving. 454 00:25:38,575 --> 00:25:41,187 And left any room in which he was and said: 455 00:25:41,270 --> 00:25:43,882 "There it is again. That's the most beautiful guitar piece. 456 00:25:43,969 --> 00:25:46,221 you have to do something with this. " 457 00:25:48,579 --> 00:25:53,584 Maybe because this arose from a I dream, you know, I was patient. 458 00:25:53,672 --> 00:25:57,217 I had... I had a lot patience with that. 459 00:26:01,271 --> 00:26:04,107 I was starting to wake up two or three times a 460 00:26:04,194 --> 00:26:06,780 week between 3:30 and 5:00 in the morning, 461 00:26:06,866 --> 00:26:08,785 and the words would come. 462 00:26:08,870 --> 00:26:10,538 I would write them. 463 00:26:10,624 --> 00:26:14,360 And if I tried to add more... Like, oh, that's a good verse. 464 00:26:14,444 --> 00:26:16,258 I'll write a second verse; would stop. 465 00:26:18,473 --> 00:26:22,602 And I said, well, whatever this is, It's just yet to come. 466 00:26:22,691 --> 00:26:24,901 He comes towards me and that's it. 467 00:26:24,987 --> 00:26:27,085 I just have to wait. 468 00:26:27,168 --> 00:26:31,496 And when it comes, write it down and start putting it together. 469 00:26:33,421 --> 00:26:35,506 in the great migration 470 00:26:37,178 --> 00:26:39,931 leaving the flock 471 00:26:41,855 --> 00:26:44,482 about your destiny 472 00:26:45,780 --> 00:26:48,658 473 00:26:52,043 --> 00:26:54,003 474 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:58,136 on which I ride 475 00:26:59,976 --> 00:27:02,896 face in the atmosphere 476 00:27:05,278 --> 00:27:07,822 I slide and I slide 477 00:27:10,164 --> 00:27:12,333 And then somehow last October, 478 00:27:12,418 --> 00:27:16,380 I lost hearing in my ear left and it just went... 479 00:27:19,015 --> 00:27:21,851 Towards the end of October, 480 00:27:21,938 --> 00:27:23,689 I was... there was almost missing, you know? 481 00:27:23,775 --> 00:27:27,738 It threw me off because my voice It didn't come from the same place. 482 00:27:28,326 --> 00:27:30,203 I wasn't sitting here. 483 00:27:30,288 --> 00:27:32,624 I was like sitting... 484 00:27:34,130 --> 00:27:36,549 485 00:27:38,514 --> 00:27:41,225 486 00:27:43,399 --> 00:27:46,777 487 00:27:46,865 --> 00:27:50,493 daylight edge 488 00:27:53,336 --> 00:27:56,756 And then I started to think, You know, this whole piece... 489 00:27:56,843 --> 00:27:58,928 490 00:27:59,015 --> 00:28:02,435 It was actually... 491 00:28:02,521 --> 00:28:05,195 something I had to deal with, 492 00:28:05,278 --> 00:28:09,490 and maybe this audience It was part of the process. 493 00:28:10,580 --> 00:28:12,003 And now it was going to be more difficult, 494 00:28:12,085 --> 00:28:14,169 and maybe it was destined to be more difficult. 495 00:28:21,101 --> 00:28:25,522 This is a journey that I must complete. 496 00:28:27,615 --> 00:28:30,159 This entire piece is really an argument. 497 00:28:30,246 --> 00:28:33,499 I'm having with me same about believing or not. 498 00:28:43,147 --> 00:28:46,359 I think I have to do it... let me trace it wildly. 499 00:28:46,445 --> 00:28:47,780 Well. 500 00:28:53,627 --> 00:28:55,112 That's not going to work, is it? 501 00:28:55,197 --> 00:28:57,250 I think it's a beautiful thing. 502 00:28:58,137 --> 00:29:00,831 It is? 503 00:29:00,918 --> 00:29:04,229 You know, it's not a thought that I really enjoyed it, you know. 504 00:29:04,316 --> 00:29:07,277 I don't like to think, oh, This is the topic of this. 505 00:29:07,364 --> 00:29:11,744 I like to work and then discover. 506 00:29:11,831 --> 00:29:13,916 let me see if I want this investment. 507 00:29:14,003 --> 00:29:18,341 People say, why do you always Do you want to change your sound? 508 00:29:18,428 --> 00:29:20,263 I'm not thinking about that way at all. 509 00:29:20,349 --> 00:29:24,519 I'm looking for the edge from what you can hear. 510 00:29:24,608 --> 00:29:27,944 I can almost hear it, but not completely. 511 00:29:28,032 --> 00:29:31,118 But that's what I want. 512 00:29:31,205 --> 00:29:33,207 Now, how do you get there? 513 00:29:33,292 --> 00:29:36,879 It's... it's a trip because is on the horizon. 514 00:29:38,470 --> 00:29:41,515 And sometimes you find that you can 515 00:29:41,601 --> 00:29:44,479 do something that It has magic, you know? 516 00:29:56,465 --> 00:30:01,720 In 1964 I gave a demonstration from "The Sound of Silence." 517 00:30:01,810 --> 00:30:02,894 It was just me. 518 00:30:02,979 --> 00:30:04,397 It wasn't with Artie. 519 00:30:04,481 --> 00:30:07,609 and through my connections in New York, 520 00:30:07,697 --> 00:30:09,756 It was put to Tom Wilson, 521 00:30:09,838 --> 00:30:13,913 who was a producer in Columbia Records, very good. 522 00:30:14,002 --> 00:30:17,547 He also produced "Like a Rolling Stone" de Bob Dylan. 523 00:30:17,633 --> 00:30:19,594 He recorded Blood, Sweat and Tears. 524 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:21,223 He recorded Laura Nyro. 525 00:30:21,308 --> 00:30:23,935 Hugh Masekela recorded, 526 00:30:24,022 --> 00:30:25,815 the Mothers of Invention, 527 00:30:25,901 --> 00:30:27,110 the loving spoonful. 528 00:30:27,196 --> 00:30:28,489 He made, I mean, hits. 529 00:30:30,827 --> 00:30:34,247 530 00:30:34,335 --> 00:30:36,670 531 00:30:36,757 --> 00:30:39,801 532 00:30:39,888 --> 00:30:41,473 533 00:30:41,558 --> 00:30:44,102 And I said: "I sing this song with a friend of mine." 534 00:30:44,189 --> 00:30:45,724 like a cancer 535 00:30:45,805 --> 00:30:48,194 "Could we come in and audition for you?" 536 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:50,866 What could I teach you? 537 00:30:50,953 --> 00:30:52,287 He said, "Yeah, sure." 538 00:30:52,372 --> 00:30:54,666 So Artie and I We go in and sing it. 539 00:30:54,752 --> 00:30:56,629 540 00:30:56,714 --> 00:30:58,967 541 00:30:59,053 --> 00:31:02,139 silently they fell 542 00:31:05,399 --> 00:31:08,860 543 00:31:08,948 --> 00:31:10,366 544 00:31:10,451 --> 00:31:13,413 And they said they would sign us. 545 00:31:13,499 --> 00:31:15,750 We were very excited because, really, 546 00:31:15,832 --> 00:31:19,257 at that time it was not possible be in a more prestigious place 547 00:31:19,344 --> 00:31:22,347 than Columbia Records. 548 00:31:22,435 --> 00:31:25,408 Then there was a big debate about what our name would be 549 00:31:25,491 --> 00:31:27,776 because there was a group called Art and Paul. 550 00:31:27,862 --> 00:31:32,700 So Columbia was trying to find names and, they were horrible. 551 00:31:32,789 --> 00:31:34,291 They were really horrible. 552 00:31:34,375 --> 00:31:37,879 I mean, one of them They were the Rye Catchers. 553 00:31:37,966 --> 00:31:40,802 That's how they saw us. It's like, these guys... 554 00:31:40,889 --> 00:31:42,932 These guys are like Salingers. 555 00:31:45,023 --> 00:31:46,933 Finally, the president from Columbia Records, 556 00:31:47,018 --> 00:31:48,679 Goddard Lieberson, He intervened and said: 557 00:31:48,864 --> 00:31:51,617 "No, his name should be Simon and Garfunkel." 558 00:31:51,703 --> 00:31:57,084 Which, at the time, was quite radical to have ethnic names. 559 00:31:57,173 --> 00:31:59,342 The people still Anglicized their names. 560 00:31:59,427 --> 00:32:01,940 All Italians changed their names, you know, 561 00:32:02,023 --> 00:32:03,685 Frankie Avalon, Bobby Rydell. 562 00:32:03,770 --> 00:32:05,814 Bob Dylan changed his name. 563 00:32:05,899 --> 00:32:08,193 So, that was a big deal. 564 00:32:08,278 --> 00:32:11,657 Goddard Lieberson definitely I was making a statement with that. 565 00:32:16,796 --> 00:32:20,133 And then we go in and we recorded our first album, 566 00:32:20,220 --> 00:32:22,347 "Wednesday morning, 3 a.m." 567 00:32:22,433 --> 00:32:24,643 the soft breathing 568 00:32:24,730 --> 00:32:27,983 569 00:32:28,069 --> 00:32:30,822 570 00:32:30,909 --> 00:32:33,537 571 00:32:33,622 --> 00:32:38,335 572 00:32:38,425 --> 00:32:42,012 573 00:32:42,098 --> 00:32:45,685 574 00:32:45,773 --> 00:32:50,694 575 00:32:50,784 --> 00:32:53,512 576 00:32:53,798 --> 00:32:55,792 Well, we'll take it and we will cut in half. 577 00:32:55,877 --> 00:32:58,146 Correct, also, when you get to "because the vision", 578 00:32:58,232 --> 00:32:59,517 start swinging it a little. 579 00:32:59,601 --> 00:33:00,752 I don't want to be so... 580 00:33:00,837 --> 00:33:02,388 - Bueno. - ...be careful with that line. 581 00:33:02,474 --> 00:33:04,726 - A little stronger too. - We're ready. 582 00:33:04,813 --> 00:33:10,401 planted in my brain 583 00:33:10,491 --> 00:33:11,784 The album came out and there it played 584 00:33:11,868 --> 00:33:13,954 "The Sound of Silence". 585 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:18,670 but, "Wednesday tomorrow, 3 a.m." was a failure. 586 00:33:18,758 --> 00:33:21,594 The album did not sell at all. 587 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:32,734 I was still in college of law at that time. 588 00:33:32,820 --> 00:33:35,707 Meanwhile I came and went and came and went to England, 589 00:33:35,793 --> 00:33:38,713 after my first visit there as a tourist. 590 00:33:38,799 --> 00:33:42,344 I was going on vacation Christmas, spring. 591 00:33:42,432 --> 00:33:45,226 And Art... was at school graduate at Columbia. 592 00:33:45,313 --> 00:33:47,732 So, we were Like separate, you know. 593 00:33:49,780 --> 00:33:53,159 By then I had already decided that he didn't want to be a lawyer. 594 00:33:53,245 --> 00:33:56,665 I want to be a musician have lawyers 595 00:33:56,753 --> 00:33:59,047 let them work for you when you need them. 596 00:33:59,133 --> 00:34:01,582 Then, abandon the school was an easy decision, 597 00:34:01,664 --> 00:34:04,390 and it was an easy decision to move to London, which I loved. 598 00:34:06,607 --> 00:34:10,175 At some point in the life of all people, 599 00:34:10,258 --> 00:34:13,033 not necessarily at a specific age, 600 00:34:13,119 --> 00:34:14,913 Um, you're surprised by the feeling 601 00:34:14,998 --> 00:34:18,293 that things escape you. 602 00:34:18,381 --> 00:34:20,549 And you try to grab them. 603 00:34:25,729 --> 00:34:29,817 I wrote this song 604 00:34:31,700 --> 00:34:36,121 I won't have them for long 605 00:34:38,506 --> 00:34:42,427 606 00:34:42,513 --> 00:34:47,644 607 00:34:47,733 --> 00:34:50,235 608 00:34:53,243 --> 00:34:55,120 I started to play, These were not clubs. 609 00:34:55,205 --> 00:34:56,957 like the clubs in New York. 610 00:34:57,044 --> 00:34:59,336 They were a room above a pub. 611 00:35:01,219 --> 00:35:03,346 There may be a microphone, or maybe not. 612 00:35:11,449 --> 00:35:12,825 Gracias. 613 00:35:15,082 --> 00:35:20,087 This woman, Judith Piepe... She was a refugee from Germany. 614 00:35:20,175 --> 00:35:21,384 His father was a communist. 615 00:35:21,469 --> 00:35:22,887 She was Jewish. 616 00:35:22,972 --> 00:35:28,353 He fled during the war and converted to the Anglican Church. 617 00:35:28,442 --> 00:35:30,778 He came to all the places in which I sang. 618 00:35:32,784 --> 00:35:36,704 The priest with whom I did my training once said: 619 00:35:36,793 --> 00:35:38,545 "If you want to help people, 620 00:35:38,630 --> 00:35:42,259 you have to love them. If you can't love them, don't do it. 621 00:35:42,346 --> 00:35:44,431 Don't try to help them. 622 00:35:44,517 --> 00:35:49,480 If you don't love them, they can't forgive you for the bread you give them." 623 00:35:50,697 --> 00:35:52,574 He lived in the East End of London, 624 00:35:52,659 --> 00:35:55,912 next to the docks, very hard. 625 00:35:55,999 --> 00:35:58,212 She lived in, you know, an apartment, 626 00:35:58,295 --> 00:36:02,366 a tiny apartment, had a room, and let me stay there. 627 00:36:03,764 --> 00:36:07,643 I had a small program five minute BBC radio. 628 00:36:07,732 --> 00:36:10,985 called "Five to Ten", which is It broadcast between ten to five. 629 00:36:11,071 --> 00:36:14,825 And it was five minutes, and he spoke, You know, it was a little while ago. 630 00:36:14,913 --> 00:36:17,831 This song by Paul Simon 631 00:36:17,915 --> 00:36:23,133 It's almost a description isolation clinic. 632 00:36:23,222 --> 00:36:25,724 And then she put one of my songs. 633 00:36:25,810 --> 00:36:29,022 sometimes I write songs 634 00:36:29,108 --> 00:36:32,363 and after finishing them and reproduce them, 635 00:36:32,447 --> 00:36:35,702 the degree horrifies me of neuroses that I possess. 636 00:36:39,631 --> 00:36:41,508 This is one of those songs. 637 00:36:41,593 --> 00:36:44,263 A kind of therapy group without the group involved. 638 00:36:45,768 --> 00:36:47,853 639 00:36:51,196 --> 00:36:55,367 and dark 640 00:36:55,455 --> 00:36:57,916 I don't usually sing songs against war. 641 00:36:58,002 --> 00:36:59,717 for the simple reason that 642 00:36:59,799 --> 00:37:02,967 if at this point there are someone who is not convinced 643 00:37:03,054 --> 00:37:05,416 of the absurdity of a war, huh, 644 00:37:05,498 --> 00:37:09,062 I don't think they will change opinion for a song. 645 00:37:09,150 --> 00:37:10,828 When I came to England last year, 646 00:37:10,910 --> 00:37:14,991 It wasn't so much about coming to England, like a departure from New York. 647 00:37:15,078 --> 00:37:19,833 And then when I returned to house in September 64, 648 00:37:19,922 --> 00:37:23,509 I discovered that the same complexes that I had in New York, 649 00:37:23,597 --> 00:37:26,475 I immediately returned to them. They were still there. 650 00:37:26,561 --> 00:37:29,842 And I found myself thinking increasingly in England 651 00:37:29,925 --> 00:37:32,528 and in relationships that he had formed. 652 00:37:37,959 --> 00:37:40,629 Kathy Chitty was my girlfriend. 653 00:37:40,715 --> 00:37:44,508 And I met her in the Brentwood Folk Club door 654 00:37:44,592 --> 00:37:48,060 collecting the money people paid to enter. 655 00:37:50,146 --> 00:37:52,346 TAPE RECORDING FOR KATHY CHITTY September 1964 656 00:37:52,446 --> 00:37:53,840 Regarding your letter yesterday... 657 00:37:55,724 --> 00:37:56,924 I'm going to put away my cigarette. 658 00:37:57,005 --> 00:37:58,505 As soon as your letter arrives 659 00:37:58,587 --> 00:38:00,087 I received it yesterday and it ruined my day 660 00:38:02,471 --> 00:38:03,971 because it was such a short letter 661 00:38:05,154 --> 00:38:07,654 wait a second, I have to find another cigarette. 662 00:38:07,787 --> 00:38:09,048 Well. 663 00:38:10,330 --> 00:38:12,330 Artie's not here. I don't know where it is. 664 00:38:13,514 --> 00:38:16,114 He told me he would come, but he left with his motorcycle 665 00:38:16,197 --> 00:38:17,246 to register it. 666 00:38:17,327 --> 00:38:20,130 I guess it will come back whenever. 667 00:38:20,213 --> 00:38:22,632 That tape is interesting. 668 00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:25,763 That was during time when he came and went. 669 00:38:25,850 --> 00:38:27,768 I was back in my parents' house. 670 00:38:28,451 --> 00:38:29,371 And it just arrived. 671 00:38:29,452 --> 00:38:31,852 It was two desperate hours to register 672 00:38:31,934 --> 00:38:33,934 and he was almost arrested for threatening someone 673 00:38:34,017 --> 00:38:36,017 Are you going to say something for her? 674 00:38:36,099 --> 00:38:37,599 You know, I can never talk. 675 00:38:37,681 --> 00:38:40,281 I get stuck on a stage, I can't speak into a microphone. 676 00:38:42,566 --> 00:38:44,866 In this tape, I want to put two new songs. 677 00:38:46,350 --> 00:38:48,350 One of them is the what I wrote about you. 678 00:38:55,747 --> 00:39:00,710 of the rain 679 00:39:02,469 --> 00:39:06,473 680 00:39:08,398 --> 00:39:14,404 681 00:39:14,494 --> 00:39:19,708 682 00:39:22,761 --> 00:39:28,559 683 00:39:28,648 --> 00:39:33,403 684 00:39:33,491 --> 00:39:39,080 rain soaked streets 685 00:39:39,170 --> 00:39:41,380 686 00:39:41,467 --> 00:39:45,054 687 00:39:55,328 --> 00:39:57,923 During this entire period while you come and go, 688 00:39:58,006 --> 00:40:02,254 I became interested in this album "Songbook" that has a photo of you and Kathy. 689 00:40:02,343 --> 00:40:05,096 - Yes, on the cover. - Yes, but it's you. 690 00:40:05,182 --> 00:40:08,143 - No son Simon y Garfunkel. - No. 691 00:40:08,230 --> 00:40:12,359 I can't believe 692 00:40:12,447 --> 00:40:17,786 and they try to rhyme 693 00:40:17,874 --> 00:40:20,043 I wasn't even debating whether to go 694 00:40:20,130 --> 00:40:22,716 to be a soloist because He lived in England. 695 00:40:22,802 --> 00:40:25,138 Playing in clubs folkloric, doing it alone. 696 00:40:25,223 --> 00:40:28,476 and the experiment with Artie singing 697 00:40:28,564 --> 00:40:30,816 It was, at that time, a failure. 698 00:40:30,901 --> 00:40:34,405 I have come to doubt 699 00:40:36,748 --> 00:40:41,335 once I considered it true 700 00:40:41,423 --> 00:40:47,179 701 00:40:47,269 --> 00:40:52,191 what I know is you 702 00:40:53,783 --> 00:40:57,411 It was simply a single period of freedom. 703 00:40:57,499 --> 00:41:01,795 You know, I loved it. I was 23, 704 00:41:01,882 --> 00:41:03,425 24 years old, no responsibilities. 705 00:41:03,511 --> 00:41:06,555 and here I am doing exactly what I want to do. 706 00:41:06,642 --> 00:41:13,065 707 00:41:13,155 --> 00:41:18,452 your grace I go 708 00:42:03,927 --> 00:42:09,849 709 00:42:09,940 --> 00:42:13,026 710 00:42:13,112 --> 00:42:17,033 711 00:42:17,121 --> 00:42:20,041 It shouldn't be like this. I can play that better 712 00:42:20,127 --> 00:42:22,797 and relate it to what is happening. - Bueno. 713 00:42:45,513 --> 00:42:48,683 - It was ok? - Yes, the last one was great. 714 00:42:49,271 --> 00:42:51,690 - Okay, then play that. - Yeah. 715 00:42:51,775 --> 00:42:54,111 I know I have more control over it, so... 716 00:43:09,395 --> 00:43:12,857 717 00:43:15,074 --> 00:43:21,663 718 00:43:27,767 --> 00:43:32,355 a rose and a thorn 719 00:43:33,987 --> 00:43:37,950 720 00:43:40,627 --> 00:43:45,382 721 00:43:45,470 --> 00:43:49,474 722 00:43:49,562 --> 00:43:54,733 723 00:43:54,823 --> 00:44:01,746 724 00:44:16,074 --> 00:44:20,662 ยกAh! 725 00:44:22,254 --> 00:44:23,631 It's good to see you, darling. 726 00:44:27,223 --> 00:44:28,891 Yes, how are you? 727 00:44:28,976 --> 00:44:30,478 Good good. No complaints. 728 00:44:30,563 --> 00:44:31,856 - Are you? - Yeah. 729 00:44:31,941 --> 00:44:33,067 Thanks for coming. 730 00:44:33,152 --> 00:44:35,571 Man, come on, you know. 731 00:44:35,657 --> 00:44:37,442 Where are you? I'll walk to Hawaii for you. 732 00:44:37,527 --> 00:44:38,628 You tell me. 733 00:44:38,914 --> 00:44:40,749 So... what are we talking about? 734 00:44:40,834 --> 00:44:42,503 Where are we with the "Psalms"? 735 00:44:42,588 --> 00:44:44,590 Do you want to play it everything from start to finish? 736 00:44:44,675 --> 00:44:46,261 Put it all in. Yes, don't stop. 737 00:44:46,346 --> 00:44:47,847 We won't stop. Well, well. 738 00:44:54,279 --> 00:44:57,392 Paul and I talked about "Seven Psalms" just as an idea 739 00:44:57,475 --> 00:45:00,371 before he started to work on it, you know? 740 00:45:00,458 --> 00:45:02,919 We were talking about the Bible. 741 00:45:03,005 --> 00:45:05,015 we were talking of a tradition 742 00:45:05,101 --> 00:45:07,921 mystique of the song of a troubadour, 743 00:45:08,308 --> 00:45:09,952 the meaning mystic of seven. 744 00:45:10,034 --> 00:45:12,731 You know, in the seventh day, the Lord rested. 745 00:45:18,245 --> 00:45:21,415 the great migration 746 00:45:21,501 --> 00:45:22,753 We met years ago. 747 00:45:22,838 --> 00:45:26,091 We did a benefit. This was in 2002. 748 00:45:26,178 --> 00:45:29,473 I made a terrible arrangement from "I'll Take Manhattan." 749 00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:34,023 It was not a musical experience particularly good for me. 750 00:45:34,111 --> 00:45:36,322 Man, it was... 751 00:45:36,407 --> 00:45:38,701 Although he appeared very calm about it. 752 00:45:38,788 --> 00:45:42,041 He sang and did his thing, but I didn't help him. 753 00:45:42,127 --> 00:45:43,329 One two three. 754 00:45:43,614 --> 00:45:44,965 So we didn't become friends. 755 00:45:45,050 --> 00:45:47,814 we became friends when he asked me to do 756 00:45:47,897 --> 00:45:51,393 a fundraiser for Jazz at Lincoln Center. 757 00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:54,983 After that, we start to collaborate through the years. 758 00:45:56,073 --> 00:45:57,658 759 00:45:57,743 --> 00:46:01,205 In a way you reinvented that song on the album In the Blue Light. 760 00:46:01,292 --> 00:46:03,044 "Pigs, sheep and wolves", yes. 761 00:46:03,129 --> 00:46:04,713 762 00:46:04,799 --> 00:46:05,973 Like an arranger, 763 00:46:06,055 --> 00:46:08,746 you always want to try to do what someone wants you to do. 764 00:46:08,833 --> 00:46:10,506 765 00:46:10,587 --> 00:46:13,856 And with this, it was as if It was something from New Orleans. 766 00:46:13,943 --> 00:46:15,844 pork 767 00:46:16,615 --> 00:46:19,201 768 00:46:19,288 --> 00:46:21,457 769 00:46:21,542 --> 00:46:23,586 770 00:46:23,671 --> 00:46:25,314 Playing music is something so spiritual 771 00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:26,968 that when you play with someone, 772 00:46:27,053 --> 00:46:28,982 most things They don't talk, you know? 773 00:46:29,064 --> 00:46:30,142 You are listening to it. 774 00:46:30,226 --> 00:46:32,061 775 00:46:32,147 --> 00:46:34,399 a couple of rodents 776 00:46:34,486 --> 00:46:37,906 777 00:46:37,993 --> 00:46:41,914 nibbling on a clover 778 00:46:42,001 --> 00:46:45,087 I really pay attention to what it says musically. 779 00:46:47,011 --> 00:46:49,305 And I often think that when I'm working 780 00:46:49,391 --> 00:46:51,602 in something and I'm changing a voice or something like that, 781 00:46:51,687 --> 00:46:53,356 "Would Wynton like this?" 782 00:46:53,441 --> 00:46:56,778 for the behavior 783 00:46:56,865 --> 00:46:58,450 784 00:46:58,536 --> 00:46:59,787 Eh. 785 00:46:59,871 --> 00:47:02,791 786 00:47:02,877 --> 00:47:04,212 787 00:47:04,297 --> 00:47:06,359 788 00:47:06,441 --> 00:47:09,523 When I had the chance to really talk to him 789 00:47:09,606 --> 00:47:12,394 and we sat outside from the context of music, 790 00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:14,816 - We had a lot to talk about. - Like what? 791 00:47:14,902 --> 00:47:17,822 Man, like being divorced, 792 00:47:17,908 --> 00:47:20,494 have children, not be married, 793 00:47:20,581 --> 00:47:22,499 race relations in the United States, 794 00:47:22,585 --> 00:47:24,211 New Orleans and New York, 795 00:47:24,297 --> 00:47:28,045 Elvis Presley and rock and roll, black and white, politics, 796 00:47:28,129 --> 00:47:30,446 ayahuasca, south american music, 797 00:47:30,529 --> 00:47:34,689 integrating with others cultures and their music, being left-handed, 798 00:47:34,777 --> 00:47:37,362 be at your father's rehearsal where you don't want to be, 799 00:47:37,449 --> 00:47:39,784 how to pay tribute to a generation before you, 800 00:47:39,871 --> 00:47:42,040 the address that will take our country. 801 00:47:42,125 --> 00:47:44,027 What level of participation must 802 00:47:44,112 --> 00:47:45,881 have the artists with the political issues? 803 00:47:45,966 --> 00:47:47,885 What is it like to travel? 804 00:47:47,970 --> 00:47:50,557 What do you learn from musicians from other cultures? 805 00:47:51,044 --> 00:47:52,879 What is needed for write a song? 806 00:47:52,964 --> 00:47:54,382 What do you think of baroque music? 807 00:47:54,467 --> 00:47:58,237 What is the position of Bach versus the Beethoven's position in European music? 808 00:47:58,325 --> 00:48:01,161 How much music did you write? Duke Ellington in 1962? 809 00:48:01,247 --> 00:48:04,292 What was it like when they killed to Goodman in Mississippi? 810 00:48:04,380 --> 00:48:06,173 African American music and Anglo-Celtic music, 811 00:48:06,258 --> 00:48:07,259 where are they found? 812 00:48:08,931 --> 00:48:12,142 It goes on and on, man, and not everyone agrees. 813 00:48:12,229 --> 00:48:14,481 That's what makes it so good. 814 00:48:14,567 --> 00:48:16,252 No friction, you have no movement. 815 00:48:18,367 --> 00:48:20,869 The universe was created with an explosion. 816 00:48:20,955 --> 00:48:22,957 And, man, that friction arose everything. 817 00:48:25,548 --> 00:48:27,675 His music is always about that. 818 00:48:36,821 --> 00:48:40,700 About a year After its launch in 1965, 819 00:48:40,788 --> 00:48:43,541 radio stations They were starting to receive requests. 820 00:48:43,627 --> 00:48:46,005 for "The Sound of Silence." 821 00:48:46,090 --> 00:48:48,426 So while I was in England, 822 00:48:48,512 --> 00:48:51,390 Tom Wilson returned to studio and overdubbed 823 00:48:51,477 --> 00:48:54,897 tools electrical and batteries. 824 00:48:54,984 --> 00:48:58,196 to the acoustic version with the same 825 00:48:58,282 --> 00:49:00,201 musicians he used in the dylan sessions 826 00:49:00,286 --> 00:49:03,039 when Dylan went electric. 827 00:49:03,125 --> 00:49:07,421 They sent it to me, I listened and said, okay. 828 00:49:07,510 --> 00:49:09,303 Did you, or was it you, was it you initially? 829 00:49:09,388 --> 00:49:10,807 Weren't you upset at first? 830 00:49:10,892 --> 00:49:12,727 No, no, I wasn't upset. 831 00:49:12,813 --> 00:49:16,480 What's up with Tom Wilson is that, when he suggested something, 832 00:49:16,564 --> 00:49:19,490 you thought it was good because it was very cool. 833 00:49:19,576 --> 00:49:21,787 It was like, yeah, try it. again, great. 834 00:49:21,872 --> 00:49:23,415 What do I have to lose? 835 00:49:23,501 --> 00:49:28,965 sound of silence 836 00:49:29,054 --> 00:49:33,934 I walked alone 837 00:49:34,022 --> 00:49:38,318 of cobblestones 838 00:49:38,407 --> 00:49:42,494 of a streetlight 839 00:49:42,582 --> 00:49:46,002 the cold and humidity 840 00:49:46,089 --> 00:49:48,133 and began to become a success. 841 00:49:48,218 --> 00:49:54,141 by the flash of a neon light 842 00:49:54,231 --> 00:49:57,484 843 00:49:57,571 --> 00:49:58,989 844 00:49:59,074 --> 00:50:00,534 The record continued to rise. 845 00:50:00,620 --> 00:50:02,079 846 00:50:02,164 --> 00:50:04,132 And Columbia wanted it will return to the US. 847 00:50:04,219 --> 00:50:08,882 And a week after my return, it reached number one. 848 00:50:08,970 --> 00:50:13,350 And I said to myself, my life has changed irrevocably. 849 00:50:13,437 --> 00:50:17,107 850 00:50:17,195 --> 00:50:21,532 they hear without listening 851 00:50:21,621 --> 00:50:24,874 852 00:50:24,962 --> 00:50:29,132 853 00:50:29,220 --> 00:50:32,390 854 00:50:32,477 --> 00:50:35,105 855 00:50:35,191 --> 00:50:38,444 856 00:50:38,531 --> 00:50:42,910 857 00:50:42,999 --> 00:50:47,336 like a cancer 858 00:50:47,425 --> 00:50:49,267 What could I teach you? 859 00:50:51,267 --> 00:50:55,238 Your music has become omnipresent everywhere. 860 00:50:55,526 --> 00:50:57,444 It's in elevators. It's in the supermarkets. 861 00:50:57,529 --> 00:51:00,144 Now how do you react when you hear it in an elevator? 862 00:51:00,227 --> 00:51:02,086 and he does it... - I love it in an elevator. 863 00:51:02,171 --> 00:51:03,564 ...Milwaukee Strings or anyone? 864 00:51:03,650 --> 00:51:04,643 That... 865 00:51:04,727 --> 00:51:08,048 I like it in the elevator. Really I do it. I'm not kidding. 866 00:51:08,135 --> 00:51:10,179 I like to listen to it there. 867 00:51:10,264 --> 00:51:12,275 The funniest thing about listen to your music 868 00:51:12,357 --> 00:51:14,044 It's when you walk down the street, 869 00:51:14,130 --> 00:51:15,648 and you hear someone hum it 870 00:51:15,734 --> 00:51:17,152 walking in the opposite direction. 871 00:51:17,236 --> 00:51:19,322 - Yes. Yes. - That's a tremendous emotion. 872 00:51:19,408 --> 00:51:22,828 In reality, it is a privilege, you know, to be... 873 00:51:22,915 --> 00:51:28,164 be in a position where people like what you do 874 00:51:28,250 --> 00:51:31,846 and accept what you do, uh, up to that point. 875 00:51:31,934 --> 00:51:33,435 It's a privilege. 876 00:51:33,521 --> 00:51:36,524 877 00:51:36,610 --> 00:51:38,112 878 00:51:38,197 --> 00:51:40,116 879 00:51:40,201 --> 00:51:42,203 If the pure protest song 880 00:51:42,288 --> 00:51:45,217 They never had great commercial success in the field of pop song, 881 00:51:45,300 --> 00:51:47,755 a group of folk singers rock known collectively 882 00:51:47,842 --> 00:51:50,553 How did they do it Simon? and Garfunkel with a guy 883 00:51:50,639 --> 00:51:52,808 different from comment about society. 884 00:51:52,893 --> 00:51:56,939 885 00:51:57,027 --> 00:51:59,469 Paul Simon, team composer, 886 00:51:59,551 --> 00:52:03,161 and Art Garfunkel, arranger vocal e instrumental, 887 00:52:03,248 --> 00:52:05,333 They are creators of songs in a real sense 888 00:52:05,420 --> 00:52:07,589 under the interpretation and packaging. 889 00:52:07,674 --> 00:52:09,926 their own musical compositions. 890 00:52:10,013 --> 00:52:13,600 891 00:52:13,687 --> 00:52:16,857 I want the sound be like the one you put 892 00:52:16,943 --> 00:52:20,155 it's like you have a bag of hops... 893 00:52:20,242 --> 00:52:23,996 What is the name of that material you wrap? How do I eat flour in large boxes of flour? 894 00:52:24,083 --> 00:52:25,835 And it should be like... 895 00:52:25,921 --> 00:52:29,132 a knife cuts it and then the flour spills out. 896 00:52:29,219 --> 00:52:32,138 897 00:52:32,225 --> 00:52:34,143 898 00:52:34,229 --> 00:52:36,231 These are songs popular such as 899 00:52:36,317 --> 00:52:38,486 are listened to and known to the public. 900 00:52:38,571 --> 00:52:41,366 through disks and personal actions. 901 00:52:41,452 --> 00:52:43,496 How are they made? 902 00:52:43,581 --> 00:52:47,043 What does creation entail? from a popular song? 903 00:52:48,801 --> 00:52:50,386 Can you hold it for a second? 904 00:52:50,471 --> 00:52:53,432 I just want to record this so you can hear it. 905 00:52:53,519 --> 00:52:55,562 One, two, three, two. 906 00:53:01,118 --> 00:53:04,362 After "Sound of Silence" was a success, 907 00:53:04,446 --> 00:53:06,752 we go in and record the songs. 908 00:53:06,838 --> 00:53:10,216 what I had written when I was in England. 909 00:53:10,304 --> 00:53:13,307 Paul has his hands full writing the songs. Am... 910 00:53:13,393 --> 00:53:16,265 I rarely do anything more than react to lyrics and music 911 00:53:16,348 --> 00:53:18,609 What occurs to Paul, although occasionally 912 00:53:18,696 --> 00:53:21,115 I prefer a change lyrics because I'm... 913 00:53:21,201 --> 00:53:23,884 because I'm thinking about the harmony that I want to use, 914 00:53:23,966 --> 00:53:26,125 and I know that a change melodic will suit me better. 915 00:53:26,211 --> 00:53:29,840 I was on a kick existential for a while. 916 00:53:29,927 --> 00:53:32,764 I wrote a song called "Patterns". 917 00:53:32,850 --> 00:53:37,093 I worried about the fact that our lives 918 00:53:37,178 --> 00:53:40,863 were divided in so many patterns 919 00:53:40,950 --> 00:53:44,120 about which we had no control. 920 00:53:44,207 --> 00:53:48,462 The color of your skin, the fact What do you die from, what is your name. 921 00:53:49,551 --> 00:53:51,624 That song must produce in the listener 922 00:53:51,706 --> 00:53:54,558 a feeling of involvement and then a catharsis. 923 00:53:57,442 --> 00:54:02,155 Tom Wilson left Columbia and went to MGM. 924 00:54:02,244 --> 00:54:05,163 Then Roy Halee He became our engineer. 925 00:54:05,251 --> 00:54:07,378 - You're recording. - Let's go. 926 00:54:07,463 --> 00:54:10,675 One, two, one, two, three. 927 00:54:16,524 --> 00:54:20,236 And since then stayed with us. 928 00:54:21,868 --> 00:54:24,620 Roy, Artie and me we made those records. 929 00:54:26,294 --> 00:54:29,130 I had that artistic temperament. 930 00:54:29,216 --> 00:54:32,720 You know, Roy could take a control room and do it right. 931 00:54:32,807 --> 00:54:36,227 He was just a technician super qualified. 932 00:54:36,315 --> 00:54:39,485 which also had a great ear, you know? 933 00:54:39,571 --> 00:54:42,606 Roy was a wonderful engineer I thought about sounds 934 00:54:42,689 --> 00:54:45,830 at the time when it began to listen to the songs. 935 00:54:45,918 --> 00:54:48,962 and so it became co-producer because he did 936 00:54:49,049 --> 00:54:51,760 more than simply make clean recordings. 937 00:54:51,846 --> 00:54:55,266 He made creative sound collages. 938 00:54:55,354 --> 00:54:58,774 I think of him as the third member of our triumvirate. 939 00:54:59,872 --> 00:55:01,448 You know, we're workaholics. 940 00:55:01,534 --> 00:55:02,735 We are shooting on the 11th. 941 00:55:02,819 --> 00:55:04,663 I was forced to do So many takes, you know? 942 00:55:04,748 --> 00:55:06,208 This is with the fingers now. 943 00:55:06,293 --> 00:55:08,003 Good. 944 00:55:08,089 --> 00:55:09,999 I would say, how was that? That's a good one. 945 00:55:10,084 --> 00:55:12,720 He said, "It is. It's good. โ€œItโ€™sโ€ฆitโ€™s good.โ€ 946 00:55:12,807 --> 00:55:14,141 I was like, "Well, isn't that good?" 947 00:55:14,226 --> 00:55:16,595 Oh, no, no, no, it's a little out of tune. 948 00:55:16,682 --> 00:55:18,391 but really nothing you couldn't... 949 00:55:18,477 --> 00:55:20,371 Okay, I'll do it again. 950 00:55:20,656 --> 00:55:22,497 I made a mistake. Come on to try again. 951 00:55:22,579 --> 00:55:24,036 What happened? - I made a mistake. 952 00:55:24,122 --> 00:55:25,798 - Vocally? - Deep breathing. 953 00:55:28,338 --> 00:55:29,673 Let's see what this is. 954 00:55:29,758 --> 00:55:32,983 To my surprise, I didn't even know that these things still existed. 955 00:55:33,066 --> 00:55:34,850 I thought they had lost these things. 956 00:55:34,935 --> 00:55:38,689 No, they have the "Bridge" multitracks. 957 00:55:38,776 --> 00:55:41,112 It's quite surprising that this still exists. 958 00:55:45,791 --> 00:55:48,252 Roy, he truly was an innovator. 959 00:55:48,338 --> 00:55:52,759 We keep falling into adventures and discoveries. 960 00:55:59,987 --> 00:56:02,406 "Cecilia" was just a clue rhythmic, approximately 961 00:56:02,493 --> 00:56:05,579 one minute and 15 seconds, and it looped. 962 00:56:05,666 --> 00:56:10,483 We literally went for a loop tape with two or three machines, 963 00:56:10,568 --> 00:56:13,303 and we keep giving round and round. 964 00:56:17,022 --> 00:56:20,984 breaking the heart 965 00:56:21,072 --> 00:56:23,282 The vocal sound of Simon y Garfunkel... 966 00:56:23,369 --> 00:56:26,038 Roy invented that, you know? 967 00:56:26,125 --> 00:56:30,963 I'm on my knees 968 00:56:31,051 --> 00:56:33,512 We both sang in a microphone close enough 969 00:56:33,598 --> 00:56:35,951 from each other so that We could really mingle. 970 00:56:36,036 --> 00:56:37,213 Let's take another one. 971 00:56:37,898 --> 00:56:40,425 Play me a little and I'll take the tempo again. 972 00:56:41,781 --> 00:56:44,743 I would capture that mix a couple of times... 973 00:56:44,830 --> 00:56:49,042 my confidence daily 974 00:56:49,130 --> 00:56:51,674 975 00:56:51,761 --> 00:56:54,930 ...have multiple tracks which combined into the mix. 976 00:56:55,018 --> 00:56:58,062 that you come home 977 00:56:58,149 --> 00:57:01,694 978 00:57:01,782 --> 00:57:03,950 979 00:57:04,036 --> 00:57:08,415 my confidence daily 980 00:57:08,504 --> 00:57:10,714 As soon as you heard That, it was like, there it is. 981 00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:15,971 I'm on my knees 982 00:57:16,061 --> 00:57:19,898 that you come home 983 00:57:19,985 --> 00:57:21,779 984 00:57:29,588 --> 00:57:32,800 In "The Boxer", that's the drum 985 00:57:32,887 --> 00:57:36,599 that Roy recorded in the elevator shaft. 986 00:57:36,687 --> 00:57:39,147 They were probably eight floors that they placed 987 00:57:39,234 --> 00:57:41,444 the drummer in the background of the elevator shaft. 988 00:57:41,530 --> 00:57:42,781 989 00:57:42,867 --> 00:57:44,952 990 00:57:45,037 --> 00:57:47,123 lie-la-lie 991 00:57:47,208 --> 00:57:49,794 992 00:57:49,881 --> 00:57:52,675 lie-la-lie 993 00:57:52,761 --> 00:57:55,933 The horns and things that come at the end, 994 00:57:56,017 --> 00:57:58,313 They were recorded in San Pablo. 995 00:58:13,931 --> 00:58:17,109 "The Only Living Boy in New York", the harmonies, 996 00:58:17,192 --> 00:58:21,107 we overdubbed them seven times inside an echo chamber. 997 00:58:23,115 --> 00:58:30,039 998 00:58:32,218 --> 00:58:39,218 999 00:58:44,744 --> 00:58:49,499 in New York 1000 00:58:49,587 --> 00:58:52,132 in New York 1001 00:58:56,101 --> 00:58:58,878 When we were working on "Bridge over troubled waters", 1002 00:58:58,965 --> 00:59:03,862 the song, we spend two or three days arranging the piano part. 1003 00:59:03,950 --> 00:59:08,955 We add the bass, the strings and the drums. 1004 00:59:09,044 --> 00:59:12,964 And Roy was the first to carry two 8-track machines 1005 00:59:13,053 --> 00:59:16,139 and synchronize them and record them on 16 tracks. 1006 00:59:16,225 --> 00:59:19,312 But one day, when I came in, He told me: "Listen to this. 1007 00:59:19,398 --> 00:59:21,633 You won't believe it what happened here " 1008 00:59:27,917 --> 00:59:30,836 The two machines were slightly out of sync. 1009 00:59:30,923 --> 00:59:33,175 So for the battery... 1010 00:59:39,607 --> 00:59:41,192 ...instead of listening... 1011 00:59:41,277 --> 00:59:44,197 Did you hear... 1012 00:59:47,707 --> 00:59:54,089 over troubled waters 1013 00:59:54,179 --> 01:00:00,602 That rhythmic rhythm that was at end was an accident that he heard 1014 01:00:00,692 --> 01:00:04,237 and like any good musician, he knew, 1015 01:00:04,324 --> 01:00:06,118 "Ah, I can take advantage of this accident." 1016 01:00:06,203 --> 01:00:07,496 This is great. 1017 01:00:07,582 --> 01:00:09,292 I was very excited. 1018 01:00:17,686 --> 01:00:21,190 Okay, I'm going to record this now so that You hear it when he calls again. 1019 01:00:21,276 --> 01:00:23,486 We will continue playing it so you can have your ideas. 1020 01:00:24,470 --> 01:00:26,470 Move your chair a little, I want to be more focused 1021 01:00:26,552 --> 01:00:28,552 Well now you will be more focused 1022 01:00:41,318 --> 01:00:43,528 1023 01:00:43,614 --> 01:00:48,994 1024 01:00:49,084 --> 01:00:52,045 1025 01:00:52,131 --> 01:00:57,595 1026 01:00:57,685 --> 01:01:00,604 1027 01:01:00,691 --> 01:01:05,112 1028 01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:07,619 1029 01:01:07,706 --> 01:01:12,377 1030 01:01:12,465 --> 01:01:14,134 How did you get involved? en The Graduate? 1031 01:01:14,219 --> 01:01:15,220 How did the idea come about? 1032 01:01:15,305 --> 01:01:16,889 Mike Nichols called. 1033 01:01:16,975 --> 01:01:19,128 And then I was in the middle of the movie. 1034 01:01:19,210 --> 01:01:22,733 It was almost finished and we convinced to make the music. 1035 01:01:22,820 --> 01:01:26,991 And the music was supposed to be, mostly original music. 1036 01:01:27,079 --> 01:01:31,417 snow covered ground 1037 01:01:31,504 --> 01:01:37,093 1038 01:01:37,183 --> 01:01:39,685 1039 01:01:39,772 --> 01:01:43,025 a true love of mine 1040 01:01:43,112 --> 01:01:45,446 I started working on it and, 1041 01:01:45,528 --> 01:01:47,524 a few months later, Mike said: 1042 01:01:47,606 --> 01:01:51,375 "You know, we've been using your music as a temporary track, 1043 01:01:51,463 --> 01:01:54,007 but it's so good that I think we really want 1044 01:01:54,093 --> 01:01:56,970 keep it in movie as is. " 1045 01:02:03,404 --> 01:02:08,700 1046 01:02:10,752 --> 01:02:16,091 ripe and grown with the rain 1047 01:02:16,180 --> 01:02:21,561 1048 01:02:22,944 --> 01:02:27,407 1049 01:02:28,873 --> 01:02:31,041 Listen to me. 1050 01:02:31,128 --> 01:02:33,514 I am the brother of Dr. Smith, Reverend Smith. 1051 01:02:33,600 --> 01:02:35,602 and I'm supposed to I must perform the ceremony. 1052 01:02:35,687 --> 01:02:38,891 I just got back from Portland and I forgot which church, see? 1053 01:02:38,977 --> 01:02:40,504 Oh well, I'm not sure, 1054 01:02:40,586 --> 01:02:43,233 but you could try the First Presbyterian. 1055 01:02:43,320 --> 01:02:46,239 - That's on Allen Street. - Gracias. 1056 01:02:46,326 --> 01:02:48,661 Allen Street, where is it? 1057 01:02:48,748 --> 01:02:51,000 Allen, eh, it, eh... 1058 01:02:51,085 --> 01:02:54,672 The only new song The one he picked up was "Mrs. Robinson." 1059 01:02:54,760 --> 01:02:57,596 that was incomplete at the time of filming. 1060 01:02:57,682 --> 01:02:59,184 Do you need gas, father? 1061 01:03:05,533 --> 01:03:07,660 La "Mrs. Robinson" It was invented on the spot. 1062 01:03:07,745 --> 01:03:09,504 Originally if I assumed it was a... 1063 01:03:09,586 --> 01:03:12,293 That was a chase scene. and they wanted guitar music. 1064 01:03:12,380 --> 01:03:13,714 And I was playing, huh... 1065 01:03:13,799 --> 01:03:15,217 Oh, it didn't taste like what was playing. 1066 01:03:15,302 --> 01:03:17,713 I was just doing riffs with the guitar, and I... 1067 01:03:20,730 --> 01:03:21,815 I was doing this. 1068 01:03:30,792 --> 01:03:33,753 And I had been fooling around with a song that was, uh... 1069 01:03:33,841 --> 01:03:36,719 I was singing... 1070 01:03:36,805 --> 01:03:39,600 usted, Mrs. Robinson 1071 01:03:39,686 --> 01:03:41,969 of what you will know 1072 01:03:42,051 --> 01:03:44,386 Without any specific reason. I didn't have anything in mind. 1073 01:03:44,469 --> 01:03:46,197 Did that just occur to you? 1074 01:03:46,283 --> 01:03:47,901 Yeah, boy, just in my head. 1075 01:03:47,987 --> 01:03:49,204 1076 01:03:49,289 --> 01:03:50,682 And then the next line was... 1077 01:03:50,767 --> 01:03:54,296 favor, Sra. Roosevelt 1078 01:03:54,383 --> 01:03:56,886 for those who pray 1079 01:03:56,971 --> 01:03:59,140 It was Mrs. Roosevelt, 1080 01:03:59,226 --> 01:04:01,646 and then he said, uh, well, We could just... 1081 01:04:01,731 --> 01:04:04,282 That would change a lot movie plot, right? 1082 01:04:04,369 --> 01:04:05,311 Yeah. 1083 01:04:08,412 --> 01:04:11,978 Since there was nothing but that chorus and no lyrics, 1084 01:04:12,061 --> 01:04:15,005 and we invented it in the act, we sing, uh, uh... 1085 01:04:17,389 --> 01:04:19,849 1086 01:04:19,936 --> 01:04:21,979 1087 01:04:24,069 --> 01:04:26,863 dee-dee-dee 1088 01:04:29,622 --> 01:04:35,378 dee-dee-dee-dee, dee-dee-dee 1089 01:04:35,467 --> 01:04:38,971 1090 01:04:39,058 --> 01:04:42,895 usted, Mrs. Robinson 1091 01:04:42,983 --> 01:04:45,652 of what you will know 1092 01:04:45,739 --> 01:04:48,533 1093 01:04:48,619 --> 01:04:51,873 1094 01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:56,006 smile at those who pray 1095 01:04:56,093 --> 01:04:58,679 1096 01:04:58,766 --> 01:05:00,225 1097 01:05:07,283 --> 01:05:09,869 We had a small stand and we watched. 1098 01:05:09,955 --> 01:05:11,957 And, like, when the car slows down, 1099 01:05:12,043 --> 01:05:14,212 I'm playing live to see the image. 1100 01:05:29,871 --> 01:05:31,665 I came across Mel Brooks the other day. 1101 01:05:31,750 --> 01:05:33,085 Yeah. 1102 01:05:33,170 --> 01:05:37,299 He said he had no idea how miserable that that song had made his life. 1103 01:05:37,387 --> 01:05:38,597 Oh really. 1104 01:05:39,082 --> 01:05:40,600 - Yeah. -His wife is Annie Bancroft. 1105 01:05:40,686 --> 01:05:42,040 That's right, his wife, right. 1106 01:05:42,565 --> 01:05:44,316 ยกElaine! 1107 01:05:45,029 --> 01:05:46,530 - ยกElaine! - I'll take care of him. 1108 01:05:46,614 --> 01:05:47,782 It's already too late. 1109 01:05:47,868 --> 01:05:50,120 So wherever what they were, is... 1110 01:05:50,205 --> 01:05:51,957 1111 01:05:52,042 --> 01:05:53,627 Yeah. 1112 01:05:53,713 --> 01:05:56,883 usted, Mrs. Robinson 1113 01:05:56,969 --> 01:06:00,723 of what you will know 1114 01:06:00,810 --> 01:06:02,854 1115 01:06:02,940 --> 01:06:06,402 favor, Mrs. Robinson 1116 01:06:06,488 --> 01:06:10,326 for those who pray 1117 01:06:10,414 --> 01:06:12,708 1118 01:06:12,793 --> 01:06:13,878 1119 01:06:18,347 --> 01:06:21,892 where no one ever goes 1120 01:06:24,108 --> 01:06:26,778 with your cupcakes 1121 01:06:28,952 --> 01:06:34,540 just the Robinson thing 1122 01:06:34,630 --> 01:06:37,883 hide it from the children 1123 01:06:37,971 --> 01:06:40,053 1124 01:06:40,135 --> 01:06:42,102 How did Joe DiMaggio get there? 1125 01:06:42,188 --> 01:06:43,964 Was he playing the ball with the lady 1126 01:06:44,050 --> 01:06:46,603 Roosevelt in your mind or something or...? 1127 01:06:46,990 --> 01:06:52,412 It is very pleasant to write in a stream of consciousness style. 1128 01:06:52,501 --> 01:06:56,776 And very often you find that what you have in mind is relevant, 1129 01:06:56,860 --> 01:06:59,203 although for him moment it doesn't seem like it. 1130 01:06:59,289 --> 01:07:03,310 And while I was writing, uh, I had no idea he would say that, 1131 01:07:03,398 --> 01:07:06,484 but I said, "Where Have you been, Joe DiMaggio? 1132 01:07:06,572 --> 01:07:09,450 A nation returns to you his lonely eyes. " 1133 01:07:09,536 --> 01:07:13,457 And then the next line, not the I had one, but I invented one and put it on. 1134 01:07:13,544 --> 01:07:16,172 And then I asked myself What did it mean? 1135 01:07:16,258 --> 01:07:19,678 And I said, well, it means something. 1136 01:07:19,766 --> 01:07:22,185 It will mean something. 1137 01:07:22,270 --> 01:07:25,523 dice, Mrs. Robinson? 1138 01:07:25,611 --> 01:07:28,989 1139 01:07:29,077 --> 01:07:33,247 hey, hey, hey, hey 1140 01:07:48,784 --> 01:07:51,870 "Dear Art and Paul, please consider 1141 01:07:51,957 --> 01:07:54,126 this is your invitation official to appear. 1142 01:07:54,211 --> 01:07:56,797 at the International Festival by Monterey Pop 1143 01:07:56,883 --> 01:08:01,221 on one of the nights on June 16, 17 or 18. 1144 01:08:01,309 --> 01:08:03,311 As described, will act free of charge. 1145 01:08:04,482 --> 01:08:06,276 On the other hand, any transport expense 1146 01:08:06,361 --> 01:08:09,447 and related accommodation with your assistance 1147 01:08:09,535 --> 01:08:11,996 will be borne by the festival commission. 1148 01:08:12,081 --> 01:08:15,960 Sincerely, Festival International Pop of Monterey. " 1149 01:08:17,551 --> 01:08:21,305 you move too fast 1150 01:08:21,392 --> 01:08:24,103 may the morning last 1151 01:08:24,190 --> 01:08:27,651 knocking down the cobblestones 1152 01:08:27,739 --> 01:08:31,993 and feel great 1153 01:08:32,080 --> 01:08:35,058 In Monterey Pop we went one of the great acts 1154 01:08:35,141 --> 01:08:36,963 and we closed the first night. 1155 01:08:37,050 --> 01:08:38,550 1156 01:08:38,636 --> 01:08:41,556 But we were never part of none of the movements. 1157 01:08:41,643 --> 01:08:43,228 1158 01:08:43,313 --> 01:08:45,065 1159 01:08:45,150 --> 01:08:48,027 1160 01:08:48,114 --> 01:08:50,659 We were not known as political people. 1161 01:08:50,745 --> 01:08:53,081 We were not known like drug traffickers. 1162 01:08:53,165 --> 01:08:54,875 1163 01:08:54,961 --> 01:08:57,055 There were quite a few reviews that thought 1164 01:08:57,139 --> 01:08:58,842 that we were very square and cheesy. 1165 01:08:58,928 --> 01:09:02,932 feeling great 1166 01:09:03,020 --> 01:09:05,939 Monterey is so cool, man. 1167 01:09:06,026 --> 01:09:08,504 This is something, man. This is our generation, man. 1168 01:09:08,790 --> 01:09:10,734 All of you, we are all together, man. 1169 01:09:10,819 --> 01:09:12,454 It's great, so look into it yourself. 1170 01:09:12,539 --> 01:09:14,125 None of the acts Americans 1171 01:09:14,210 --> 01:09:16,087 it looked nothing like to English acts. 1172 01:09:16,172 --> 01:09:19,134 Nobody, not even Grateful Dead, ni Janis Joplin. 1173 01:09:19,220 --> 01:09:21,097 1174 01:09:21,181 --> 01:09:25,061 Most of the people were hippies. 1175 01:09:25,149 --> 01:09:27,215 Nobody had ever seen nothing like The Who, 1176 01:09:27,298 --> 01:09:29,113 you know, destroying their guitars. 1177 01:09:29,199 --> 01:09:30,826 I mean, I was ashamed. 1178 01:09:30,910 --> 01:09:32,579 I used to think, God, when I was a child, 1179 01:09:32,664 --> 01:09:35,459 I had to save a lot to buy me a guitar. 1180 01:09:35,545 --> 01:09:37,254 Do you know you're going to destroy it? 1181 01:09:41,015 --> 01:09:44,611 Hendrix, I don't know if the fire was part of your act all the time or not, 1182 01:09:44,695 --> 01:09:47,275 but things were going getting wilder. 1183 01:09:48,865 --> 01:09:51,291 And we felt that we should start expressing 1184 01:09:51,373 --> 01:09:53,329 what i felt our generation. 1185 01:10:17,757 --> 01:10:20,510 1186 01:10:20,596 --> 01:10:23,057 she was sleeping 1187 01:10:25,774 --> 01:10:32,114 and I don't know why 1188 01:10:32,204 --> 01:10:35,791 New Jersey Turnpike 1189 01:10:35,879 --> 01:10:42,760 1190 01:10:42,851 --> 01:10:49,483 1191 01:10:49,573 --> 01:10:51,575 1192 01:10:51,661 --> 01:10:54,122 birthday is coming Beethoven number 200. 1193 01:10:54,208 --> 01:10:55,751 - Did you know that...? - No. 1194 01:10:55,836 --> 01:10:58,839 1970 is 200 years. 1195 01:10:58,926 --> 01:11:01,803 Soon the someone else's 200th birthday. 1196 01:11:01,890 --> 01:11:03,350 - 200th birthday? - Yeah. 1197 01:11:03,435 --> 01:11:05,145 -Who is that? - USA. 1198 01:11:10,115 --> 01:11:11,450 Do you think it will arrive? 1199 01:11:14,123 --> 01:11:18,628 They offered us a special with ATandT as sponsor 1200 01:11:18,716 --> 01:11:23,513 and we decided that the program I would have a political idea. 1201 01:11:23,602 --> 01:11:25,563 and I don't know why 1202 01:11:25,648 --> 01:11:30,319 We didn't go in there looking for a fight. 1203 01:11:30,408 --> 01:11:32,535 We thought that we were expressing 1204 01:11:32,620 --> 01:11:34,505 the simple truth of what is happening. 1205 01:11:34,591 --> 01:11:39,738 looking for America 1206 01:11:40,429 --> 01:11:43,765 As obvious as it is that we shouldn't 1207 01:11:43,852 --> 01:11:46,438 be in vietnam or as obvious as it is 1208 01:11:46,524 --> 01:11:49,115 that people die of hunger in this country, 1209 01:11:49,198 --> 01:11:52,783 until they stop the war, until they feed the people, 1210 01:11:52,871 --> 01:11:54,623 It is a function of the people point it out 1211 01:11:54,708 --> 01:11:56,793 and remind us continually. 1212 01:11:58,966 --> 01:12:00,551 But in reality, it only one I remember 1213 01:12:00,637 --> 01:12:03,264 that's what naive that we were. 1214 01:12:03,351 --> 01:12:06,604 that we thought that everyone was liberal. 1215 01:12:06,691 --> 01:12:09,235 However, I think that much of what we say, 1216 01:12:09,321 --> 01:12:11,573 of what we say, yeah not everything we say, 1217 01:12:11,660 --> 01:12:14,079 It's extremely obvious. 1218 01:12:16,001 --> 01:12:19,463 1219 01:12:21,681 --> 01:12:25,768 1220 01:12:25,855 --> 01:12:27,774 1221 01:12:27,859 --> 01:12:32,948 1222 01:12:33,037 --> 01:12:37,458 1223 01:12:37,546 --> 01:12:42,884 1224 01:12:42,974 --> 01:12:44,684 During "Bridge Over troubled waters", 1225 01:12:44,769 --> 01:12:48,231 which was the first time it was reproduced somewhere, 1226 01:12:48,318 --> 01:12:54,992 we show images of Kennedy, the train and Bobby, 1227 01:12:55,082 --> 01:12:58,753 and images of Martin Luther King. 1228 01:12:58,840 --> 01:13:02,218 And the producer said, "You can't just stay with those three." 1229 01:13:02,306 --> 01:13:03,849 And we said, "Why?" 1230 01:13:03,934 --> 01:13:05,819 And they said, "Well, "They are all democrats." 1231 01:13:05,905 --> 01:13:07,523 And we were like, โ€œReally? 1232 01:13:07,608 --> 01:13:10,360 We think that everyone they were killed. " 1233 01:13:10,447 --> 01:13:16,912 over troubled waters 1234 01:13:17,002 --> 01:13:18,796 Why am I going to make this album? 1235 01:13:18,881 --> 01:13:20,883 What is the goal of this album? 1236 01:13:20,969 --> 01:13:23,388 The world is falling apart. 1237 01:13:23,474 --> 01:13:26,393 Chaos, what the hell is all this about? 1238 01:13:37,378 --> 01:13:40,464 time has changed all those songs, 1239 01:13:40,552 --> 01:13:43,304 also from a very interesting way. 1240 01:13:45,687 --> 01:13:50,275 You turn all this over and look at it from a different perspective. 1241 01:13:50,363 --> 01:13:52,282 Like "Bridge over troubled waters." 1242 01:13:52,367 --> 01:13:56,454 that became something more than a pop song. 1243 01:14:02,305 --> 01:14:06,017 1244 01:14:09,612 --> 01:14:13,073 1245 01:14:14,580 --> 01:14:16,582 1246 01:14:19,006 --> 01:14:21,926 1247 01:14:22,012 --> 01:14:25,849 are on the way 1248 01:14:25,937 --> 01:14:29,523 - - 1249 01:14:29,611 --> 01:14:34,366 1250 01:14:36,041 --> 01:14:42,047 you need a friend 1251 01:14:42,136 --> 01:14:43,972 1252 01:14:44,057 --> 01:14:45,725 1253 01:14:45,811 --> 01:14:49,314 1254 01:14:49,402 --> 01:14:52,571 1255 01:14:52,658 --> 01:14:55,327 1256 01:14:55,414 --> 01:14:58,917 1257 01:14:59,005 --> 01:15:00,423 1258 01:15:00,508 --> 01:15:03,302 1259 01:15:03,389 --> 01:15:04,765 1260 01:15:04,850 --> 01:15:07,352 1261 01:15:07,439 --> 01:15:09,941 1262 01:15:10,028 --> 01:15:12,780 1263 01:15:34,244 --> 01:15:38,373 1264 01:15:38,461 --> 01:15:43,091 of the darkness, 1265 01:15:43,179 --> 01:15:47,225 1266 01:15:47,313 --> 01:15:51,400 beautiful song 1267 01:15:51,488 --> 01:15:56,284 and sing for everyone 1268 01:15:56,373 --> 01:16:00,961 1269 01:16:01,049 --> 01:16:04,094 1270 01:16:04,181 --> 01:16:09,228 reflect on the code 1271 01:16:09,316 --> 01:16:12,111 1272 01:16:12,197 --> 01:16:14,116 In the word "cold", It's a G chord. 1273 01:16:14,201 --> 01:16:15,792 It's "code", C... - ยก"Code"! 1274 01:16:15,874 --> 01:16:18,366 "Reflect on the code of forgiveness. " 1275 01:16:18,452 --> 01:16:20,822 Code is code is Absolutely crucial to... 1276 01:16:21,108 --> 01:16:22,926 Oh, absolutely, It is a digital code. 1277 01:16:23,012 --> 01:16:23,963 I understand. 1278 01:16:24,047 --> 01:16:25,848 ...to what is happening in that verse. 1279 01:16:25,934 --> 01:16:27,019 Yes, Yes, Yes, Yes. 1280 01:16:27,103 --> 01:16:29,939 It's reflecting, reflecting about the code of forgiveness. 1281 01:16:30,026 --> 01:16:31,944 Bueno. 1282 01:16:32,030 --> 01:16:33,156 Bueno. 1283 01:16:36,414 --> 01:16:41,336 1284 01:16:41,424 --> 01:16:46,221 doors are not closed 1285 01:16:46,310 --> 01:16:49,480 1286 01:16:49,566 --> 01:16:52,986 I feel that probably we could have done it, 1287 01:16:53,074 --> 01:16:56,494 "And I, the last in the line, waiting 1288 01:16:56,581 --> 01:16:58,333 that the doors do not close 1289 01:16:58,418 --> 01:17:00,003 before your forgiveness. " 1290 01:17:00,088 --> 01:17:02,757 There's something about loneliness 1291 01:17:02,843 --> 01:17:07,348 of the only instrument because there's the guy 1292 01:17:07,436 --> 01:17:09,355 he's just the last one in line. 1293 01:17:09,440 --> 01:17:11,693 There's something... you know, there's something 1294 01:17:11,779 --> 01:17:13,948 There is a small void there... that can happen. 1295 01:17:17,624 --> 01:17:19,293 - Let's play... - That's very good. 1296 01:17:19,378 --> 01:17:21,088 ...and see what that does. 1297 01:17:33,574 --> 01:17:35,242 Okay, wait. 1298 01:17:35,328 --> 01:17:40,291 Can you touch? when you touch this, don't make it pretty. 1299 01:17:57,039 --> 01:18:01,335 1300 01:18:04,554 --> 01:18:09,142 1301 01:18:11,068 --> 01:18:13,987 of beats and out 1302 01:18:18,625 --> 01:18:22,838 in the last parade 1303 01:18:24,805 --> 01:18:29,726 What is happening with the song is just a debate, you know? 1304 01:18:29,815 --> 01:18:32,443 "Oh, okay, I guess. Oh, I don't know. 1305 01:18:32,529 --> 01:18:33,964 Maybe I don't believe it. No... " 1306 01:18:34,049 --> 01:18:37,686 in the waters of heaven 1307 01:18:37,874 --> 01:18:41,711 1308 01:18:41,798 --> 01:18:45,093 in the waters of heaven 1309 01:18:48,812 --> 01:18:54,067 in a drop of condensation 1310 01:18:54,157 --> 01:18:56,117 I was sitting next to him and 1311 01:18:56,203 --> 01:18:58,446 He sang it all, like in my ear. 1312 01:18:58,533 --> 01:18:59,751 It was very smooth. 1313 01:18:59,835 --> 01:19:03,297 And then I could hear it, the symbolism. 1314 01:19:03,384 --> 01:19:06,012 How the limitation of your belief always 1315 01:19:06,098 --> 01:19:09,477 tends to be linked to your conception 1316 01:19:09,563 --> 01:19:13,944 of your mortality in the sense of that you are part of the flow of a thing. 1317 01:19:17,247 --> 01:19:21,669 It's a dawn and it's a sunset, transfiguration. 1318 01:19:22,757 --> 01:19:27,011 1319 01:19:28,394 --> 01:19:30,980 I'm still not sure of what I want. 1320 01:19:31,066 --> 01:19:35,988 relieves pain 1321 01:19:36,077 --> 01:19:40,373 of beats and out 1322 01:19:42,757 --> 01:19:45,760 1323 01:19:45,847 --> 01:19:49,017 1324 01:20:05,304 --> 01:20:07,723 in the waters of heaven 1325 01:20:07,808 --> 01:20:09,185 One more time. 1326 01:20:14,823 --> 01:20:16,408 1327 01:20:16,494 --> 01:20:18,329 One more time. 1328 01:20:18,414 --> 01:20:20,416 It has been a very year strange because it happened 1329 01:20:20,502 --> 01:20:23,922 very hastily starting in October. 1330 01:20:24,009 --> 01:20:26,261 until early November, boom. 1331 01:20:26,347 --> 01:20:29,141 - Scary. - He's gone. 1332 01:20:29,228 --> 01:20:30,938 But I kept thinking, oh, okay. 1333 01:20:31,023 --> 01:20:32,608 He'll come back and I'll do this. 1334 01:20:32,694 --> 01:20:34,153 I will do that. I'll see the doctors. 1335 01:20:34,239 --> 01:20:36,116 Do you have the one inside? 1336 01:20:36,201 --> 01:20:37,669 It goes here and then it goes here. 1337 01:20:37,753 --> 01:20:39,288 - Well. - It's on both sides. 1338 01:20:39,374 --> 01:20:41,543 Yeah. 1339 01:20:41,629 --> 01:20:45,508 It's a... It's an aid in conversation, but it doesn't help at all in music. 1340 01:20:45,595 --> 01:20:47,055 For music, interesting. 1341 01:20:47,140 --> 01:20:51,185 It's real...tiny. 1342 01:20:53,946 --> 01:20:56,657 I don't know, suddenly, you know, 1343 01:20:56,744 --> 01:20:58,996 I said, oh, this is not coming back. 1344 01:20:59,081 --> 01:21:01,350 and I really fell in a depression. 1345 01:21:01,433 --> 01:21:05,549 And finally when I arrived at the bottom of depression, 1346 01:21:05,636 --> 01:21:10,683 I said, you better get up go to bed and exercise, you know? 1347 01:21:10,773 --> 01:21:15,569 I was able to write with these two small Bose speakers. 1348 01:21:15,657 --> 01:21:17,367 connected to my computer. 1349 01:21:17,453 --> 01:21:20,664 If I put my head here, I could still... 1350 01:21:23,173 --> 01:21:25,634 I just have to solve how to sing, 1351 01:21:25,720 --> 01:21:29,098 and I can't... yet I haven't solved it. 1352 01:21:30,814 --> 01:21:34,025 1353 01:21:34,988 --> 01:21:40,077 from the darkness, searching 1354 01:21:40,166 --> 01:21:41,960 1355 01:21:44,007 --> 01:21:48,262 beautiful song 1356 01:21:48,350 --> 01:21:50,018 1357 01:21:50,104 --> 01:21:51,814 No, that's all. 1358 01:21:56,199 --> 01:21:58,101 we will have to We'll deal with that another day. 1359 01:22:01,377 --> 01:22:03,713 Once I I put these headphones on, 1360 01:22:03,798 --> 01:22:06,551 all the distortion what's in the damage, 1361 01:22:06,637 --> 01:22:08,472 whatever there is caused that damage, 1362 01:22:08,558 --> 01:22:11,644 I can't get rid of it. It is amplified. 1363 01:22:11,732 --> 01:22:13,441 When it first happened, 1364 01:22:13,523 --> 01:22:15,683 I was working with a kinesiologist 1365 01:22:15,765 --> 01:22:18,492 who had a friend who was a neuroscientist. 1366 01:22:18,579 --> 01:22:23,876 And he invented this team, which is... 1367 01:22:23,965 --> 01:22:27,344 you put it on your tongue because It is closer to the brain. 1368 01:22:27,430 --> 01:22:30,683 And stimulate your tongue electrically, 1369 01:22:30,771 --> 01:22:34,024 which stimulates amygdala and your brain. 1370 01:22:34,110 --> 01:22:40,909 And then I'd be listening with headphones these hearing tests. 1371 01:22:41,000 --> 01:22:43,875 so really I was concentrating 1372 01:22:43,958 --> 01:22:46,833 at the frequencies that They had disappeared. 1373 01:22:52,399 --> 01:22:56,236 And when you meditated, one of the meditations 1374 01:22:56,323 --> 01:22:59,660 What he said was: "Choose your favorite moments." 1375 01:22:59,747 --> 01:23:02,382 from when you were young and, you know, 1376 01:23:02,465 --> 01:23:08,342 You were in perfect health and all that. and you really focused on that. 1377 01:23:08,432 --> 01:23:11,143 and get that memory in your head. 1378 01:23:11,229 --> 01:23:15,170 And every time you start to get depressed or something like that, 1379 01:23:15,254 --> 01:23:18,282 click again in that memory. 1380 01:23:18,369 --> 01:23:22,957 when you feel that you enjoy perfect health and you can run very fast, 1381 01:23:23,046 --> 01:23:24,338 you could do everything. " 1382 01:23:27,972 --> 01:23:31,517 1383 01:23:31,605 --> 01:23:33,023 1384 01:23:34,903 --> 01:23:38,323 1385 01:23:38,410 --> 01:23:42,998 1386 01:23:43,087 --> 01:23:46,673 1387 01:23:46,761 --> 01:23:50,014 1388 01:23:50,101 --> 01:23:53,604 1389 01:23:53,691 --> 01:23:57,904 1390 01:24:02,000 --> 01:24:05,087 Once you accept the condition as something 1391 01:24:05,174 --> 01:24:09,303 more than a detriment but as information 1392 01:24:09,391 --> 01:24:12,435 What do you have to solve? then you can use it. 1393 01:24:16,906 --> 01:24:19,473 Especially because this whole album 1394 01:24:19,556 --> 01:24:22,123 deals with themes spiritual, I said: 1395 01:24:22,209 --> 01:24:25,328 Maybe this, you know, It wasn't supposed to be this easy. 1396 01:24:26,509 --> 01:24:29,470 Maybe it's supposed that you have an obstacle 1397 01:24:29,558 --> 01:24:32,394 that gives you more idea of what you are saying. 1398 01:24:36,864 --> 01:24:38,782 And you do it for 20 minutes. 1399 01:24:38,868 --> 01:24:41,329 Basically, what He said it was, eh, with him... 1400 01:24:41,415 --> 01:24:43,834 with him... with the brain... you know it with your body, 1401 01:24:43,921 --> 01:24:45,547 but the brain is the same. 1402 01:24:45,633 --> 01:24:47,218 Use it or lose it. 1403 01:24:49,097 --> 01:24:53,477 1404 01:24:53,565 --> 01:24:57,986 1405 01:24:58,075 --> 01:25:01,078 As Wynton told me: "Hey, Beethoven took a while 1406 01:25:01,164 --> 01:25:03,875 ten years in get used to it and find out." 1407 01:25:03,962 --> 01:25:05,822 1408 01:25:05,904 --> 01:25:09,010 He said: "Well, now you know, it's out of tune. 1409 01:25:09,098 --> 01:25:12,150 I said, man, but that does it even more moving and beautiful. 1410 01:25:12,237 --> 01:25:13,755 You should leave all that there. " 1411 01:25:13,840 --> 01:25:15,292 But I know he won't do that. 1412 01:25:15,377 --> 01:25:16,970 1413 01:25:17,155 --> 01:25:19,283 Or maybe you leave a couple of them there. 1414 01:25:19,369 --> 01:25:21,955 on which I ride 1415 01:25:22,041 --> 01:25:24,640 He said, "I know this is going to be difficult for you, but listen, 1416 01:25:24,722 --> 01:25:26,715 just listening to you is like a kind of fight." 1417 01:25:26,801 --> 01:25:28,622 with a note to reach him 1418 01:25:28,704 --> 01:25:31,641 It is very interesting and very moving in itself. 1419 01:25:31,728 --> 01:25:34,756 Said, "I know you'll listen a note that will be out of tune. 1420 01:25:34,839 --> 01:25:36,151 "You're going to want to fix it." 1421 01:25:36,237 --> 01:25:37,238 He said, "Don't do it." 1422 01:25:37,323 --> 01:25:41,327 1423 01:25:41,414 --> 01:25:46,419 for the poorest 1424 01:25:46,508 --> 01:25:51,597 welcome to the stranger 1425 01:25:51,685 --> 01:25:54,438 Of course, I don't I pay attention at all. 1426 01:25:54,524 --> 01:25:56,693 But I understand What is he saying? 1427 01:25:56,780 --> 01:25:58,782 I wasn't saying: "Don't sing in tune." 1428 01:25:58,867 --> 01:26:00,952 He was saying: "Leave the fight there." 1429 01:26:01,038 --> 01:26:03,123 1430 01:26:03,209 --> 01:26:05,002 That's part of the story. 1431 01:26:05,088 --> 01:26:08,267 rising of the oceans 1432 01:26:08,554 --> 01:26:11,775 terrible and fast sword 1433 01:26:12,063 --> 01:26:16,692 1434 01:26:30,810 --> 01:26:34,197 Do you find the need to share musical ideas with someone? 1435 01:26:34,284 --> 01:26:37,729 Because, I mean, obviously, I don't know. How you used to work with Artie Garfunkel, 1436 01:26:37,815 --> 01:26:41,870 If you did, how close was the writing association actually. 1437 01:26:41,958 --> 01:26:43,843 Well, we weren't one writers society. 1438 01:26:43,929 --> 01:26:45,632 Not us, not me, We don't write together. 1439 01:26:45,714 --> 01:26:48,118 So was it always your song, his song, your song? 1440 01:26:48,304 --> 01:26:50,641 No, he never... he didn't write none of the songs. 1441 01:26:50,724 --> 01:26:52,961 He didn't write anything... I don't mean... I feel weird. 1442 01:26:53,048 --> 01:26:54,583 Did not write any of the songs. 1443 01:26:54,667 --> 01:26:56,751 I wrote all the songs by Simon and Garfunkel. 1444 01:26:56,838 --> 01:26:57,781 Hmm. Yeah. 1445 01:26:57,865 --> 01:26:59,792 No, I didn't need a writing partner, 1446 01:26:59,877 --> 01:27:02,189 but, uh, your question about, do I find it useful? 1447 01:27:02,374 --> 01:27:05,252 Exchange ideas musicals with people? Yeah. 1448 01:27:05,340 --> 01:27:07,926 1449 01:27:08,011 --> 01:27:09,438 - Oh, we're in the... - Lift me up. 1450 01:27:09,523 --> 01:27:11,642 - We stayed in the room. - 1451 01:27:11,727 --> 01:27:13,570 We are still in the fourth chord, but... 1452 01:27:13,657 --> 01:27:16,141 Well, as for the melody, stay on that higher note. 1453 01:27:16,227 --> 01:27:17,311 - Bueno. - Go down there. 1454 01:27:17,396 --> 01:27:18,347 1455 01:27:18,433 --> 01:27:22,696 1456 01:27:29,055 --> 01:27:29,957 That sounds like something to me. 1457 01:27:30,041 --> 01:27:32,542 Very well, then stay, Start with the lowest notes. 1458 01:27:32,629 --> 01:27:35,615 No, no, let me hear the chords first, before entering the note. 1459 01:27:35,702 --> 01:27:38,872 You sing it and you get both parts in my head, and then I will learn it. 1460 01:27:38,958 --> 01:27:41,561 we had a unequal association because 1461 01:27:41,747 --> 01:27:43,916 I was writing all the songs. 1462 01:27:44,003 --> 01:27:46,880 and basically run the sessions because I would say, 1463 01:27:46,967 --> 01:27:49,223 "This is how it goes, and this It's the guitar part, 1464 01:27:49,306 --> 01:27:52,183 and this is all, and you should play it on the drums. 1465 01:27:52,270 --> 01:27:53,730 No, the bass should do this. " 1466 01:27:53,814 --> 01:27:55,691 And Artie would be in the control room with Roy. 1467 01:27:55,776 --> 01:27:57,144 And he'd say, "Yeah, that's good." 1468 01:27:57,230 --> 01:27:58,406 Let's do it, you know. " 1469 01:27:58,490 --> 01:28:00,868 But it was a unequal balance of power. 1470 01:28:02,458 --> 01:28:04,209 There are times when I am 1471 01:28:04,294 --> 01:28:06,588 singing one of the Paul songs. 1472 01:28:06,674 --> 01:28:08,780 I feel that the song It's really very personal. 1473 01:28:08,862 --> 01:28:11,097 and probably shouldn't be sung by no one 1474 01:28:11,184 --> 01:28:13,311 apart from the writer, but there are others 1475 01:28:13,396 --> 01:28:18,109 songs that go beyond a person. 1476 01:28:21,664 --> 01:28:23,123 1477 01:28:23,209 --> 01:28:25,469 Which is part of the reason. why Mike Nichols, 1478 01:28:25,551 --> 01:28:27,073 after "The Graduate", he told her: 1479 01:28:27,158 --> 01:28:28,999 "It will be better for him group if you convert 1480 01:28:29,081 --> 01:28:31,306 into a movie star, and Paul is the writer. 1481 01:28:31,392 --> 01:28:33,936 It will... It will be more balanced. 1482 01:28:34,022 --> 01:28:37,275 So they hired him to make "Catch-22." 1483 01:28:37,363 --> 01:28:41,701 So he wasn't there for half from "Bridge Over Troubled Waters." 1484 01:28:41,788 --> 01:28:44,541 You are crazy. You are all crazy. 1485 01:28:44,628 --> 01:28:46,004 Why are we crazy? 1486 01:28:46,089 --> 01:28:49,217 Because you don't know how to stay alive. 1487 01:28:49,303 --> 01:28:52,181 That is the secret of life. 1488 01:28:52,269 --> 01:28:54,479 But we have a war to win. 1489 01:28:54,565 --> 01:28:57,317 Ah, but States United will lose the war. 1490 01:28:57,404 --> 01:28:59,156 - No. - Italy will win. 1491 01:28:59,241 --> 01:29:01,827 United States is the strongest nation on Earth. 1492 01:29:01,913 --> 01:29:04,040 The American fighter He is the best trained, 1493 01:29:04,126 --> 01:29:06,503 the best equipped and the best fed. 1494 01:29:07,925 --> 01:29:12,513 plane just in time 1495 01:29:14,355 --> 01:29:18,610 1496 01:29:20,285 --> 01:29:26,416 1497 01:29:26,506 --> 01:29:28,800 1498 01:29:28,886 --> 01:29:32,598 1499 01:29:32,685 --> 01:29:36,272 in New York 1500 01:29:38,739 --> 01:29:41,075 "The only living child in New York," I mean, it's... 1501 01:29:41,161 --> 01:29:43,080 It's like a song of "good luck to you." 1502 01:29:43,165 --> 01:29:45,251 - GOOD. - My best wishes, you know? 1503 01:29:45,336 --> 01:29:48,756 the news I need 1504 01:29:48,844 --> 01:29:51,304 1505 01:29:53,228 --> 01:29:54,980 1506 01:29:55,065 --> 01:29:59,945 do today, more than smile 1507 01:30:00,033 --> 01:30:01,368 1508 01:30:01,452 --> 01:30:05,290 1509 01:30:05,378 --> 01:30:09,465 in New York 1510 01:30:13,394 --> 01:30:15,313 sometimes we leave 1511 01:30:15,398 --> 01:30:16,983 1512 01:30:17,068 --> 01:30:21,072 1513 01:30:26,838 --> 01:30:28,340 We were really best friends 1514 01:30:28,425 --> 01:30:30,928 to "Bridge Over Troubled Water". 1515 01:30:33,218 --> 01:30:35,562 We had traveled a lot together and we were so forced 1516 01:30:35,649 --> 01:30:38,693 to be together thank you to the power of business, 1517 01:30:38,780 --> 01:30:42,201 began to affect our friendship, which was always true. 1518 01:30:43,289 --> 01:30:47,794 It started to be abrasive to see each other forced to be together and on tour. 1519 01:30:49,970 --> 01:30:52,389 Artie said, "Yeah, the way in which it will be so it is, 1520 01:30:52,475 --> 01:30:55,179 I'm going to make movies during six months and then I'll be back. 1521 01:30:55,265 --> 01:30:58,734 You will have written the songs and we'll do, you know, the album. " 1522 01:30:58,822 --> 01:31:01,282 And I thought, yes, actually, no, that's not going to happen. 1523 01:31:01,368 --> 01:31:03,161 I'm not going to do that. 1524 01:31:03,247 --> 01:31:06,125 But wasn't that already how it was? working anyway? 1525 01:31:06,211 --> 01:31:07,937 No, but always we were together. 1526 01:31:08,023 --> 01:31:09,008 UH Huh. 1527 01:31:09,093 --> 01:31:11,278 You know, I would say, "Oh, I wrote a new song." 1528 01:31:11,363 --> 01:31:12,748 It wasn't as if would come back and say: 1529 01:31:12,834 --> 01:31:14,419 "What is the collection of songs that 1530 01:31:14,503 --> 01:31:16,354 you wrote during these last six months?" 1531 01:31:16,440 --> 01:31:17,725 While writing a song, 1532 01:31:17,810 --> 01:31:19,988 I said, "Hey, do you know What do you think of this?" 1533 01:31:20,073 --> 01:31:23,411 You know, the main thing that We were interested, we shared it. 1534 01:31:23,495 --> 01:31:27,668 If I'm going to wait three or four months for records to be recorded, 1535 01:31:27,756 --> 01:31:30,133 I can also do many things with that time. 1536 01:31:30,219 --> 01:31:31,888 and when I received the offer to go down 1537 01:31:31,973 --> 01:31:34,809 and make a little cameo in "Catch-22", 1538 01:31:34,896 --> 01:31:37,398 I considered it like five or six weeks maximum. 1539 01:31:37,485 --> 01:31:40,488 Then I will go to Mexico and I will do this. 1540 01:31:40,574 --> 01:31:42,242 I didn't think I was going to be a problem. 1541 01:31:42,328 --> 01:31:44,442 What did become then in a problem 1542 01:31:44,524 --> 01:31:46,542 is that they had me down there for a long time. 1543 01:31:46,629 --> 01:31:49,006 "The movie is over. "You have to go back." 1544 01:31:49,092 --> 01:31:52,173 "No, we can't because we have to shoot this week in Mexico." 1545 01:31:52,257 --> 01:31:54,893 And then: "Send what you did and let me listen. 1546 01:31:54,978 --> 01:31:57,397 No, that's not good. Have to change this and this. " 1547 01:31:57,484 --> 01:32:01,363 It was as if everything would have been altered. 1548 01:32:03,956 --> 01:32:07,960 It was a recipe for breakup of Simon and Garfunkel. 1549 01:32:08,047 --> 01:32:10,258 And here it goes. 1550 01:32:10,344 --> 01:32:12,805 I didn't have the harmony of friendship. 1551 01:32:12,891 --> 01:32:14,476 That was broken. 1552 01:32:14,561 --> 01:32:18,481 1553 01:32:18,570 --> 01:32:20,071 "Bridge over troubled waters," 1554 01:32:20,156 --> 01:32:22,408 when we used to play it on stage, 1555 01:32:22,494 --> 01:32:25,747 Artie sang the song and people jumped. 1556 01:32:25,834 --> 01:32:27,919 He received a great ovation, you know? 1557 01:32:28,006 --> 01:32:30,967 And my reaction was: I wrote that song. 1558 01:32:32,932 --> 01:32:37,604 Am I the one who broke Simon and Garfunkel, or was it Paul who failed? 1559 01:32:37,692 --> 01:32:41,331 to accommodate the enrichment of his own career by Garfunkel? 1560 01:32:41,415 --> 01:32:43,827 Two people are needed to form a group. 1561 01:32:43,914 --> 01:32:45,824 Two people are needed to be idiots. 1562 01:32:45,909 --> 01:32:50,806 they get difficult 1563 01:32:51,094 --> 01:32:57,184 can find friends 1564 01:32:57,274 --> 01:32:59,652 1565 01:32:59,737 --> 01:33:02,740 Or maybe it was my perfect trauma 1566 01:33:02,827 --> 01:33:05,330 freudian what my mother once told me: 1567 01:33:05,416 --> 01:33:06,834 "You have a good voice, Paul, 1568 01:33:06,919 --> 01:33:08,754 but Arthur has an excellent voice." 1569 01:33:08,839 --> 01:33:11,926 1570 01:33:12,013 --> 01:33:17,018 1571 01:33:17,107 --> 01:33:20,527 1572 01:33:20,614 --> 01:33:22,533 This is my oldest friend. 1573 01:33:22,618 --> 01:33:28,008 And we experience anonymity and then great fame and success. 1574 01:33:29,299 --> 01:33:32,093 And those things have his own pressure. 1575 01:33:32,179 --> 01:33:34,890 It was five years intense to be a success, 1576 01:33:34,977 --> 01:33:37,771 and that is close to duration of his life. 1577 01:33:40,196 --> 01:33:43,650 I used to think when it was over "Bridge Over Troubled Water", well, 1578 01:33:43,736 --> 01:33:46,414 we really are too much on top of each other, 1579 01:33:46,500 --> 01:33:48,658 and the fat in the machinery is not there, 1580 01:33:48,741 --> 01:33:51,800 and it is screeching, and we A rest would be nice. 1581 01:33:51,887 --> 01:33:54,306 And certainly I I would love to rest a little. 1582 01:33:54,392 --> 01:33:57,937 But after a break, I see a wonderful upcoming album. 1583 01:33:58,025 --> 01:33:59,234 He didn't see it that way. 1584 01:34:03,410 --> 01:34:04,953 I couldn't get over that. 1585 01:34:07,085 --> 01:34:10,880 you move too fast 1586 01:34:10,967 --> 01:34:14,179 may the morning last 1587 01:34:14,266 --> 01:34:18,813 knocking down the cobblestones 1588 01:34:18,901 --> 01:34:20,319 1589 01:34:20,404 --> 01:34:26,368 1590 01:34:28,754 --> 01:34:30,256 That was a good friendship. 1591 01:34:30,341 --> 01:34:33,928 That was really the first 1592 01:34:34,015 --> 01:34:38,854 someone's friendship that got it for me. 1593 01:34:38,942 --> 01:34:42,946 1594 01:34:43,034 --> 01:34:47,038 feeling great 1595 01:34:47,126 --> 01:34:51,881 Become a person who I hope I never see you again... 1596 01:34:51,969 --> 01:34:53,637 that's a long way. 1597 01:34:53,723 --> 01:34:57,226 the, the, the, the, the, the 1598 01:34:57,314 --> 01:35:00,734 ba, ba, ba, ba, ba, ba, ba 1599 01:35:00,821 --> 01:35:06,744 1600 01:35:06,833 --> 01:35:11,004 1601 01:35:30,700 --> 01:35:32,740 How does this room sound? 1602 01:35:32,830 --> 01:35:35,661 It has a pretty good sound... Pretty good out there. 1603 01:35:43,600 --> 01:35:45,270 Wow, it's really interesting. 1604 01:35:45,360 --> 01:35:47,690 - Do you want to try the same thing again? - Yeah. 1605 01:35:47,770 --> 01:35:50,440 I have a very good hunch about Voices8. 1606 01:35:50,530 --> 01:35:53,680 Talk to the composer from that group was interesting. 1607 01:35:54,360 --> 01:35:57,017 He said that there are certain sounds I chose 1608 01:35:57,097 --> 01:35:59,620 and I thought that we could underline. 1609 01:35:59,700 --> 01:36:01,620 Let's hear that. 1610 01:36:01,710 --> 01:36:08,000 He imagined coloring them with his instrument, which has eight voices. 1611 01:36:08,090 --> 01:36:09,960 Well, and here. 1612 01:36:20,060 --> 01:36:22,926 In the New Folk scene York, in the early days, 1613 01:36:23,006 --> 01:36:26,520 You know, when Simon and Garfunkel we were just together, 1614 01:36:26,610 --> 01:36:29,943 I was friends with some people who were important figures in it, 1615 01:36:30,023 --> 01:36:32,150 Especially Dave Van Ronk, I'm thinking. 1616 01:36:34,070 --> 01:36:37,700 Your record collection It was full of music 1617 01:36:37,780 --> 01:36:40,740 really interesting from all over the world. 1618 01:36:40,830 --> 01:36:43,250 That music album from Bulgaria, well, 1619 01:36:43,330 --> 01:36:46,880 It was like a success cult in the 60s. 1620 01:36:46,960 --> 01:36:49,410 You know, that's when I heard it for the first time. 1621 01:36:54,590 --> 01:36:57,180 It's a recorded chorus in the 50s. 1622 01:36:57,260 --> 01:36:59,890 It's so beautiful that you will fall apart 1623 01:36:59,970 --> 01:37:04,730 And they do it... they do it all the time Now, that second minor pass. 1624 01:37:04,810 --> 01:37:09,860 Let's see what happens if We tried to go to Voices of Bulgaria. 1625 01:37:22,330 --> 01:37:25,040 Hello gorgeous. 1626 01:37:25,120 --> 01:37:26,540 Sounds good. 1627 01:37:26,620 --> 01:37:27,582 Isn't it? - Yeah. 1628 01:37:27,662 --> 01:37:29,460 They just gave me some headphones for 1629 01:37:29,540 --> 01:37:31,630 be able to hear everyone your comments. 1630 01:37:34,630 --> 01:37:38,660 Paul has a way of looking everyday life and make it poetic. 1631 01:37:39,840 --> 01:37:45,060 And it doesn't make a caricature to express yourself, 1632 01:37:47,140 --> 01:37:49,730 but that too makes him vulnerable. 1633 01:37:49,810 --> 01:37:54,440 I think sometimes that has made them misunderstand. 1634 01:37:54,530 --> 01:37:58,900 At the beginning, when I started go out with him, someone warned me. 1635 01:37:58,990 --> 01:38:01,910 They said: Don't go out with him. "He's arrogant." 1636 01:38:01,990 --> 01:38:04,620 And I said, "Well, you... how do you know? 1637 01:38:04,700 --> 01:38:07,410 If you don't know him. It seems normal. " 1638 01:38:07,500 --> 01:38:09,620 It's what it is person had read. 1639 01:38:11,500 --> 01:38:13,966 And in terms of Art Garfunkel, 1640 01:38:14,046 --> 01:38:18,470 they made it look like Paul had victimized him or... 1641 01:38:18,550 --> 01:38:19,950 unlike the truth, 1642 01:38:20,030 --> 01:38:23,350 that the boy walked away to continue a different type of career. 1643 01:38:23,430 --> 01:38:25,060 - Good. - Everyone looked at him like, 1644 01:38:25,150 --> 01:38:27,341 oh no, paul went to do Paul, 1645 01:38:27,421 --> 01:38:29,230 but that's not what happened. 1646 01:38:31,600 --> 01:38:35,360 I went to Artie and said: "Are you making another movie?" 1647 01:38:35,440 --> 01:38:38,421 We just finished the album. We hadn't been on tour with him. 1648 01:38:38,501 --> 01:38:40,160 we had not done nothing with it. 1649 01:38:40,240 --> 01:38:42,660 And he said, "Yes, I'm doing Mike's next movie. 1650 01:38:42,740 --> 01:38:45,620 It is called "Carnal Knowledge." 1651 01:38:45,700 --> 01:38:48,310 And I said, "Well, why Why didn't you tell me?" 1652 01:38:48,590 --> 01:38:50,500 And he said, "I thought that you wouldn't finish 1653 01:38:50,580 --> 01:38:52,817 'Bridge over turbulent waters' 1654 01:38:52,897 --> 01:38:56,130 If I told you, so I decided not to tell you." 1655 01:38:56,210 --> 01:39:01,470 And I think that was really the last straw. It broke the camel's back for the record deal. 1656 01:39:03,300 --> 01:39:06,640 I don't see myself doing this within five years. 1657 01:39:06,720 --> 01:39:11,060 I... I talk about everything the spiritual sphere, 1658 01:39:11,140 --> 01:39:15,860 All that... all that aspect of my life. 1659 01:39:18,650 --> 01:39:22,070 All this... this entertaining... 1660 01:39:22,160 --> 01:39:23,910 It has nothing to do with that. 1661 01:39:25,830 --> 01:39:29,910 1662 01:39:30,000 --> 01:39:33,880 1663 01:39:33,960 --> 01:39:37,750 1664 01:39:37,840 --> 01:39:41,930 1665 01:39:42,010 --> 01:39:48,260 1666 01:39:48,350 --> 01:39:51,940 Like I said, I was telling you I didn't see how Art could... 1667 01:39:52,020 --> 01:39:55,190 How can you leave someone What makes you sound so good? 1668 01:39:55,270 --> 01:40:00,360 of the cathedral 1669 01:40:00,440 --> 01:40:04,610 1670 01:40:04,700 --> 01:40:07,700 1671 01:40:07,780 --> 01:40:10,540 Wouldn't you realize What are you working with...? 1672 01:40:10,620 --> 01:40:12,910 Well, he didn't know I quit. 1673 01:40:13,000 --> 01:40:15,580 I didn't say, "I quit." 1674 01:40:15,670 --> 01:40:18,250 And I left it. 1675 01:40:18,340 --> 01:40:21,635 All this experience, the tension in the studio, 1676 01:40:21,715 --> 01:40:23,760 If this was how the relationship was going to be, 1677 01:40:23,840 --> 01:40:26,390 For me it was like, well, I don't want to be in that. 1678 01:40:26,470 --> 01:40:28,773 So I went to Clive Davis, who was the director 1679 01:40:28,853 --> 01:40:30,930 by Columbia Records at that moment, and I told him: 1680 01:40:31,020 --> 01:40:33,230 "I leave Simon and Garfunkel. 1681 01:40:33,310 --> 01:40:36,480 "I'm going to make a solo album." 1682 01:40:36,560 --> 01:40:39,650 Clive said: "You are committing the biggest mistake of your life. 1683 01:40:39,730 --> 01:40:42,990 Simon and Garfunkel is a name 1684 01:40:43,070 --> 01:40:44,900 well known throughout the world. 1685 01:40:44,990 --> 01:40:46,610 It's a huge business and dividing it 1686 01:40:46,700 --> 01:40:49,160 It's just a big mistake." 1687 01:40:52,500 --> 01:40:54,030 were you trying to prove something or 1688 01:40:54,110 --> 01:40:56,500 you were just tired of the relationship? 1689 01:40:56,580 --> 01:40:58,630 No, no, I wasn't trying to prove anything. 1690 01:40:58,710 --> 01:41:03,090 I was consumed by writing music and making records. 1691 01:41:04,670 --> 01:41:09,760 And my wife Peggy said: "Hey, you write the songs. 1692 01:41:09,850 --> 01:41:12,640 What should you worry about?" 1693 01:41:12,720 --> 01:41:17,270 And that's how I started my solo career. 1694 01:41:24,440 --> 01:41:27,087 One of the things I could leave 1695 01:41:27,167 --> 01:41:31,660 it was the obligation to write a song for a duet. 1696 01:41:31,740 --> 01:41:34,370 That was liberating. 1697 01:41:34,450 --> 01:41:36,210 And in "Bridge over troubled waters", 1698 01:41:36,290 --> 01:41:41,110 I was already making the album with a broader palette of sounds. 1699 01:41:42,800 --> 01:41:47,880 I heard this group, Los Incas, and They played this song, "El Cรณndor Pasa." 1700 01:41:47,970 --> 01:41:51,550 a peruvian popular song very famous that I loved. 1701 01:41:51,640 --> 01:41:58,140 I said, "Why don't we buy that one?" song and I write a song for him?" 1702 01:41:58,230 --> 01:42:00,230 we will not be able play that track. 1703 01:42:00,310 --> 01:42:02,020 It's already perfect. 1704 01:42:02,110 --> 01:42:08,240 sparrow than a snail 1705 01:42:08,320 --> 01:42:11,410 1706 01:42:11,490 --> 01:42:14,870 1707 01:42:14,950 --> 01:42:17,040 1708 01:42:17,120 --> 01:42:19,670 That's really the first time 1709 01:42:20,750 --> 01:42:22,500 I make music of the world, you know? 1710 01:42:22,590 --> 01:42:27,720 hammer than a nail 1711 01:42:27,800 --> 01:42:30,760 1712 01:42:30,840 --> 01:42:33,850 1713 01:42:33,930 --> 01:42:37,020 1714 01:42:37,100 --> 01:42:39,249 If you really want a certain sound, 1715 01:42:39,329 --> 01:42:42,190 you have to go to people to play that sound. 1716 01:42:42,270 --> 01:42:46,280 You can't ask someone to write in someone else's handwriting. 1717 01:42:47,360 --> 01:42:50,910 Whenever there will be a fierce outbreak of ska. 1718 01:42:50,990 --> 01:42:55,120 And ska is the new beat of the West Indies, Jamaica. 1719 01:42:59,040 --> 01:43:03,080 1720 01:43:03,170 --> 01:43:09,050 Ska was very important in '63 and '64 in England. 1721 01:43:09,130 --> 01:43:12,090 1722 01:43:12,180 --> 01:43:14,930 I always liked the happy music. 1723 01:43:25,820 --> 01:43:28,440 So when I did the first solo album 1724 01:43:28,530 --> 01:43:30,900 and I was trying make a ska album, 1725 01:43:30,990 --> 01:43:33,070 I understood if I wanted get that sound, 1726 01:43:33,160 --> 01:43:34,450 I must go to Jamaica. 1727 01:43:44,670 --> 01:43:47,420 My favorite album on that time it was a song called 1728 01:43:47,500 --> 01:43:50,170 "Vietnam" de Jimmy Cliff. 1729 01:43:50,260 --> 01:43:56,100 1730 01:43:56,180 --> 01:44:00,980 1731 01:44:01,060 --> 01:44:04,022 So I contacted with the producer of that album 1732 01:44:04,102 --> 01:44:06,770 and I asked him if I could go to Jamaica and record. 1733 01:44:06,860 --> 01:44:09,530 And he said yes, and he prepared it. 1734 01:44:09,610 --> 01:44:12,200 And I went down with this one partially written song. 1735 01:44:24,420 --> 01:44:27,460 And I told the musicians: "Here's my song. 1736 01:44:27,540 --> 01:44:29,960 "I want to make a ska album." 1737 01:44:30,050 --> 01:44:31,840 They said, "Well, We don't play ska." 1738 01:44:31,920 --> 01:44:33,510 And I said, "Well, what do you mean...? 1739 01:44:33,590 --> 01:44:35,370 What do you mean Why don't you play ska? 1740 01:44:35,450 --> 01:44:37,390 And they said, "You know, It's reggae, man." 1741 01:44:37,470 --> 01:44:40,560 1742 01:44:40,640 --> 01:44:43,520 raise your head 1743 01:44:43,600 --> 01:44:45,520 1744 01:44:45,600 --> 01:44:48,560 for your wedding day 1745 01:44:48,650 --> 01:44:50,650 1746 01:44:50,730 --> 01:44:53,240 Then I said, โ€œReally? What is reggae? 1747 01:44:53,320 --> 01:44:55,570 I've never heard of reggae. " 1748 01:44:55,660 --> 01:44:59,240 That band turned out to be Toots and the Maytals. 1749 01:45:11,590 --> 01:45:14,509 Then they played. I said, well, that's great. 1750 01:45:14,589 --> 01:45:16,380 Well, let's make it reggae. 1751 01:45:16,470 --> 01:45:20,180 false hopes 1752 01:45:20,260 --> 01:45:24,180 1753 01:45:24,270 --> 01:45:28,190 between mother and son 1754 01:45:28,270 --> 01:45:32,860 away 1755 01:45:32,940 --> 01:45:37,280 1756 01:45:37,360 --> 01:45:40,620 1757 01:45:40,700 --> 01:45:45,290 1758 01:45:45,370 --> 01:45:49,040 1759 01:45:49,130 --> 01:45:53,250 it works that way 1760 01:45:53,340 --> 01:45:57,720 of a lifetime 1761 01:45:57,800 --> 01:46:02,140 1762 01:46:02,220 --> 01:46:05,980 false hopes, no 1763 01:46:06,060 --> 01:46:09,940 1764 01:46:10,020 --> 01:46:14,230 between mother and son 1765 01:46:14,320 --> 01:46:19,410 away 1766 01:46:19,490 --> 01:46:21,570 1767 01:46:21,660 --> 01:46:24,762 The reason why I go to these places 1768 01:46:24,842 --> 01:46:28,750 is that you can count the story of a song 1769 01:46:28,830 --> 01:46:31,290 with any context, you know. 1770 01:46:31,380 --> 01:46:33,340 So the context could be Peruvian. 1771 01:46:33,420 --> 01:46:35,840 The context could be reggae. 1772 01:46:35,920 --> 01:46:38,970 1773 01:46:39,050 --> 01:46:41,760 I was counting the same stories that, you know... 1774 01:46:41,840 --> 01:46:44,850 a love story, a marriage. 1775 01:46:46,770 --> 01:46:51,310 false hopes 1776 01:46:55,570 --> 01:46:57,940 This is really how these things evolve. 1777 01:47:02,870 --> 01:47:06,040 I continued meeting musicians from different parts of the world. 1778 01:47:08,200 --> 01:47:10,307 I heard something that I really liked 1779 01:47:10,387 --> 01:47:13,500 and then I went to find out what it was and where it was. 1780 01:47:13,580 --> 01:47:16,670 and it was just a very interesting path. 1781 01:47:18,920 --> 01:47:23,140 1782 01:47:23,220 --> 01:47:26,850 1783 01:47:26,930 --> 01:47:33,650 roads and over the seas 1784 01:47:36,400 --> 01:47:40,570 1785 01:47:40,650 --> 01:47:45,320 1786 01:47:45,410 --> 01:47:51,160 1787 01:47:54,670 --> 01:47:57,710 1788 01:47:57,800 --> 01:48:04,510 the same path 1789 01:48:04,590 --> 01:48:08,260 1790 01:48:10,520 --> 01:48:14,770 On an artistic level, really I was always growing and alive. 1791 01:48:15,860 --> 01:48:20,940 and looking for space to express who I am. 1792 01:48:21,030 --> 01:48:24,530 I wanted to find another area of โ€‹โ€‹expression 1793 01:48:24,610 --> 01:48:26,910 in addition to simply make albums. 1794 01:48:31,160 --> 01:48:35,120 Live from New York, It's Saturday night! 1795 01:48:35,210 --> 01:48:36,960 NBC Saturday Night. 1796 01:48:40,670 --> 01:48:42,760 We will be back. 1797 01:48:42,840 --> 01:48:44,930 We'll be back in a moment with a... 1798 01:48:46,890 --> 01:48:48,140 Oh my god. 1799 01:48:49,640 --> 01:48:52,060 Very sorry. The number of bees is cut. 1800 01:48:52,140 --> 01:48:53,100 That? 1801 01:48:53,180 --> 01:48:54,560 Oh, geez. 1802 01:48:54,640 --> 01:48:56,900 It didn't work last week. It's cut. I'm sorry. 1803 01:48:56,980 --> 01:48:58,110 Well. 1804 01:49:01,860 --> 01:49:03,780 Very badly. 1805 01:49:03,860 --> 01:49:09,330 I didn't want it for the first show Because I didn't know how it would turn out. 1806 01:49:10,410 --> 01:49:13,620 But I thought it would be good for the second show. 1807 01:49:13,700 --> 01:49:16,628 Comedy... that's all rhythm and timing, 1808 01:49:16,708 --> 01:49:20,130 so for the musicians it's easy to connect. 1809 01:49:20,210 --> 01:49:23,260 We had the summer to work on that program. 1810 01:49:23,340 --> 01:49:27,930 And he was working all the time summer in Still Crazy, you know? 1811 01:49:28,010 --> 01:49:31,610 So, I went to the studio and we met for dinner, 1812 01:49:31,690 --> 01:49:34,100 or had a place not Bridgehampton, 1813 01:49:34,180 --> 01:49:38,150 and one weekend I went out. 1814 01:49:38,230 --> 01:49:39,860 We arrived there at night. 1815 01:49:39,940 --> 01:49:42,840 And we talked, you know... late. 1816 01:49:43,330 --> 01:49:45,320 Here's a song on the one I'm working on. 1817 01:49:45,400 --> 01:49:47,450 I haven't finished it. I'll show you. 1818 01:49:47,530 --> 01:49:49,660 I will go up to the point where I have stopped. 1819 01:49:50,200 --> 01:49:52,330 Bueno. 1820 01:49:52,410 --> 01:49:58,210 my old lover on the street 1821 01:49:58,290 --> 01:50:04,670 to see that I only smile 1822 01:50:04,760 --> 01:50:07,340 some old times 1823 01:50:07,430 --> 01:50:10,300 1824 01:50:10,390 --> 01:50:15,060 of all these years 1825 01:50:15,140 --> 01:50:20,900 after all these years 1826 01:50:23,110 --> 01:50:27,820 We were always talking about what we would do in your program. 1827 01:50:27,900 --> 01:50:33,740 I thought: I'm going to open it dry with him singing "Still Crazy." 1828 01:50:33,830 --> 01:50:39,080 my window and I look at the cars 1829 01:50:39,170 --> 01:50:44,840 one day I will do some damage 1830 01:50:46,590 --> 01:50:49,680 1831 01:50:49,760 --> 01:50:53,350 1832 01:50:53,430 --> 01:50:58,730 of all these years 1833 01:50:58,810 --> 01:51:01,560 Many people didn't recognize him. 1834 01:51:01,650 --> 01:51:03,760 He rarely appears on television. 1835 01:51:03,850 --> 01:51:06,034 Very few rock people and roll appeared on TV 1836 01:51:06,114 --> 01:51:07,400 because the sound was very bad. 1837 01:51:07,490 --> 01:51:09,860 1838 01:51:09,950 --> 01:51:16,870 1839 01:51:22,120 --> 01:51:24,227 From news headquarters Saturday night, 1840 01:51:24,307 --> 01:51:26,800 this is the final update of the week with Chevy Chase. 1841 01:51:26,880 --> 01:51:29,260 The big news on the horizon sporty is, of course, 1842 01:51:29,350 --> 01:51:30,690 the face to face confrontation 1843 01:51:30,770 --> 01:51:32,872 con Connie Hawkins of the Atlanta Hawks 1844 01:51:32,952 --> 01:51:34,890 y Paul Simon, acoustic guitarist. 1845 01:51:34,970 --> 01:51:38,890 For a report from the field, Let's go now to Marv Albert. 1846 01:51:38,970 --> 01:51:42,650 I'm Marv Albert, and in a moment, the face to face confrontation 1847 01:51:42,730 --> 01:51:44,560 close between El Halcรณn, 1848 01:51:44,650 --> 01:51:47,400 Connie Hawkins, former Harlem globetrotter, 1849 01:51:47,480 --> 01:51:50,094 one of the most players interesting from the NBA, 1850 01:51:50,174 --> 01:51:52,070 as a member of the Atlanta Hawks. 1851 01:51:52,150 --> 01:51:55,410 And Paul Simon will oppose The Hawk. 1852 01:51:55,490 --> 01:51:57,580 Paul, what's your plan game for The Hawk? 1853 01:51:57,660 --> 01:52:02,250 Well, I see one 1'4" height advantage. 1854 01:52:02,330 --> 01:52:07,000 And I have to be honest, that will be a factor in this game. 1855 01:52:07,090 --> 01:52:09,918 He dominates me speed and shooting ability, 1856 01:52:09,998 --> 01:52:14,260 but I just have to play my game Like... like I normally do, 1857 01:52:14,340 --> 01:52:17,260 And I mean, I have I keep my points 1858 01:52:17,350 --> 01:52:21,180 strong, basically, sing and write songs. 1859 01:52:22,730 --> 01:52:25,368 rolled out of bed 1860 01:52:25,448 --> 01:52:27,610 1861 01:52:27,690 --> 01:52:28,860 1862 01:52:28,940 --> 01:52:30,280 1863 01:52:30,360 --> 01:52:32,700 1864 01:52:32,780 --> 01:52:35,160 1865 01:52:35,240 --> 01:52:36,950 I can't play basketball. 1866 01:52:37,030 --> 01:52:38,424 If you make me one individual photos, 1867 01:52:38,504 --> 01:52:40,660 It seems that I can perform a jump shot. 1868 01:52:40,740 --> 01:52:42,020 And you see it enter. 1869 01:52:42,100 --> 01:52:43,710 You say, oh, he could play basketball. 1870 01:52:43,790 --> 01:52:46,830 He must have taken me as an hour and a half score 10. 1871 01:52:46,920 --> 01:52:50,710 I mean I could stand next to it from the basket with no one around me. 1872 01:52:50,800 --> 01:52:53,300 and I try to make a tray, and I won't. 1873 01:53:06,730 --> 01:53:09,480 days come and take me 1874 01:53:09,570 --> 01:53:11,978 let the story leak 1875 01:53:12,058 --> 01:53:15,200 comes to set me free 1876 01:53:15,280 --> 01:53:17,740 Newsweek cover 1877 01:53:17,820 --> 01:53:20,490 1878 01:53:20,580 --> 01:53:22,700 1879 01:53:22,790 --> 01:53:24,870 1880 01:53:24,960 --> 01:53:27,580 time, but I don't know where 1881 01:53:27,670 --> 01:53:31,710 the queen of Corona 1882 01:53:31,800 --> 01:53:35,220 in the school yard 1883 01:53:36,970 --> 01:53:39,600 in the school yard 1884 01:53:45,310 --> 01:53:50,860 I walked alone 1885 01:53:50,940 --> 01:53:55,950 of cobblestones 1886 01:53:56,030 --> 01:54:01,120 of a streetlight 1887 01:54:01,200 --> 01:54:04,540 the cold and humidity 1888 01:54:04,620 --> 01:54:06,710 1889 01:54:06,790 --> 01:54:10,880 stabbed by the... 1890 01:54:10,960 --> 01:54:13,800 Chuck, don't even you know the lyrics. 1891 01:54:13,880 --> 01:54:17,260 Well, I really am... I am. learning as we go. 1892 01:54:17,340 --> 01:54:19,264 Chuck, this is live television. 1893 01:54:19,344 --> 01:54:21,257 This is not the time of being learning. 1894 01:54:21,337 --> 01:54:24,320 How do you think I feel? I mean, I feel terrible. 1895 01:54:24,410 --> 01:54:25,840 It's terrible to say that now, right? 1896 01:54:25,930 --> 01:54:28,060 I mean, I've come all this way. It was $3,000. 1897 01:54:28,140 --> 01:54:29,080 That was the deal. 1898 01:54:29,160 --> 01:54:31,860 I understand, but I want to say, It was just one of those confusions. 1899 01:54:31,950 --> 01:54:33,860 I mean, it is generally, I mean... 1900 01:54:33,950 --> 01:54:35,770 I understand that the offer initial was 3,000. 1901 01:54:35,850 --> 01:54:37,040 - Hello George. - Hello Paul. 1902 01:54:37,130 --> 01:54:38,870 - Hello, Lorne. - We better get started. 1903 01:54:38,950 --> 01:54:40,580 Lorne got George as a guest 1904 01:54:40,660 --> 01:54:42,090 musical because I was the host. 1905 01:54:42,170 --> 01:54:43,310 In the future, you know... 1906 01:54:43,390 --> 01:54:45,160 I know, I mean, but if you don't... 1907 01:54:45,240 --> 01:54:47,580 If you don't continue tonight, If you don't continue tonight, 1908 01:54:47,660 --> 01:54:49,650 It will break your heart. I mean, it must be... 1909 01:54:49,730 --> 01:54:51,460 Look, I thought that you would understand that if they were, 1910 01:54:51,540 --> 01:54:53,390 you know, 3,000 dollars for four people, 1911 01:54:53,470 --> 01:54:55,600 which would only cost $750 for one. 1912 01:54:57,840 --> 01:54:59,560 As far as I'm concerned, you could stay 1913 01:54:59,640 --> 01:55:01,760 with the 3,000 dollars complete. It's the network. 1914 01:55:01,840 --> 01:55:03,760 Well, $750 is pretty cheap. 1915 01:55:03,850 --> 01:55:07,100 So George and I had a day 1916 01:55:07,180 --> 01:55:08,930 test for record the songs. 1917 01:55:09,020 --> 01:55:12,350 1918 01:55:12,440 --> 01:55:15,480 1919 01:55:15,570 --> 01:55:18,940 1920 01:55:19,030 --> 01:55:22,450 You know, we had the same taste in early rock and roll. 1921 01:55:22,530 --> 01:55:26,290 1922 01:55:26,370 --> 01:55:29,620 1923 01:55:29,710 --> 01:55:33,040 1924 01:55:33,130 --> 01:55:35,460 1925 01:55:35,540 --> 01:55:37,130 I liked where George thought. 1926 01:55:37,210 --> 01:55:38,800 It was more mystical and was willing 1927 01:55:38,880 --> 01:55:41,050 to dedicate yourself to that kind of thing. 1928 01:55:42,930 --> 01:55:44,970 Ladies and gentlemen, my friend George Harrison. 1929 01:55:54,400 --> 01:55:56,320 1930 01:55:56,400 --> 01:55:58,150 1931 01:55:58,230 --> 01:55:59,900 1932 01:55:59,990 --> 01:56:03,870 1933 01:56:04,360 --> 01:56:06,200 Tonight we will talk with Mr. Paul Simon. 1934 01:56:06,280 --> 01:56:07,825 He is head of the chapter from the east coast 1935 01:56:07,905 --> 01:56:10,350 of the Truckers Association Independents of America. 1936 01:56:10,430 --> 01:56:13,116 And, Mr. Simon, the truck driver Gypsy is a very hard-working man. 1937 01:56:13,196 --> 01:56:16,270 and I want to ask you, sir. Drive a trailer 24 hours a day. 1938 01:56:16,350 --> 01:56:17,690 How the hell do you do it, sir? 1939 01:56:18,920 --> 01:56:24,180 Let me start by saying that I am not an independent trucker. 1940 01:56:24,260 --> 01:56:27,720 I mean, never I drove a truck. 1941 01:56:27,810 --> 01:56:30,020 - Ah. - My name is Paul Simon, but I... 1942 01:56:30,100 --> 01:56:31,890 I am a composer. I'm not a trucker. 1943 01:56:35,150 --> 01:56:36,900 1944 01:56:36,980 --> 01:56:42,440 they return to the faces 1945 01:56:42,530 --> 01:56:44,400 1946 01:56:44,490 --> 01:56:49,870 years since he was here 1947 01:56:49,950 --> 01:56:51,620 1948 01:56:51,700 --> 01:56:53,540 1949 01:56:53,620 --> 01:56:55,370 1950 01:56:55,460 --> 01:56:58,710 1951 01:57:02,340 --> 01:57:06,760 It is obvious to me that You don't know who or what I am. 1952 01:57:06,840 --> 01:57:09,890 I haven't even seen your show. I know what you are. 1953 01:57:09,970 --> 01:57:12,100 then just I will say good night. 1954 01:57:12,180 --> 01:57:13,130 Oh yes, good night. 1955 01:57:13,210 --> 01:57:15,330 Well, sir, it's okay, If that's how you feel, 1956 01:57:15,410 --> 01:57:18,330 I can respect that. I can respect the opinions of any man. 1957 01:57:18,410 --> 01:57:19,830 I guess it what we have seen there 1958 01:57:19,910 --> 01:57:21,870 It's a bit of the anger of the 60s... 1959 01:57:25,200 --> 01:57:30,580 He made the people at Columbia Records came to listen to Still Crazy. 1960 01:57:30,660 --> 01:57:33,910 This is the summer of '75. And he said, stay for this. 1961 01:57:34,000 --> 01:57:37,080 And he put the album with the great speakers. 1962 01:57:37,170 --> 01:57:42,420 inside your head, he told me 1963 01:57:42,500 --> 01:57:47,180 if you take it logically 1964 01:57:47,260 --> 01:57:50,930 in your fight to be free 1965 01:57:51,010 --> 01:57:54,310 to leave your lover 1966 01:57:54,390 --> 01:57:57,154 When you have had as successful as him, 1967 01:57:57,234 --> 01:58:00,810 always worries you never return to that level. 1968 01:58:00,900 --> 01:58:02,650 my meaning 1969 01:58:02,730 --> 01:58:05,110 will be misunderstood 1970 01:58:05,190 --> 01:58:07,530 1971 01:58:07,610 --> 01:58:10,280 rude, there must be 1972 01:58:10,370 --> 01:58:13,290 But you're betting for your own 1973 01:58:13,370 --> 01:58:16,120 taste and intuition and that you can achieve it. 1974 01:58:16,210 --> 01:58:19,000 leave your lover 1975 01:58:19,080 --> 01:58:21,790 salt from behind, Jack 1976 01:58:21,880 --> 01:58:23,800 1977 01:58:23,880 --> 01:58:26,380 1978 01:58:26,470 --> 01:58:28,970 1979 01:58:29,050 --> 01:58:31,140 1980 01:58:31,220 --> 01:58:33,640 1981 01:58:33,720 --> 01:58:36,140 1982 01:58:36,230 --> 01:58:39,140 1983 01:58:39,230 --> 01:58:45,900 It is not so much a doubt as a level real nerve, courage and recklessness. 1984 01:58:45,980 --> 01:58:48,360 because he is never satisfied. 1985 01:58:52,320 --> 01:58:54,330 If you have the type of brain that he has, 1986 01:58:54,410 --> 01:58:56,370 your gaze is fixed in what is wrong. 1987 01:58:56,450 --> 01:58:59,000 And you enjoy very little of what is good 1988 01:58:59,080 --> 01:59:02,500 because there is still the part that is wrong. 1989 01:59:02,580 --> 01:59:04,170 One more time. 1990 01:59:04,250 --> 01:59:06,840 It is a very tortuous route, 1991 01:59:06,920 --> 01:59:09,930 but it's just the hand that touched him. 1992 01:59:17,140 --> 01:59:18,829 I mean, essentially, 1993 01:59:18,909 --> 01:59:21,850 what we do is follow going over the whole thing. 1994 01:59:21,940 --> 01:59:23,770 let me hear the guitar for a second. 1995 01:59:23,860 --> 01:59:26,110 Let me hear the... the chromelodeon. 1996 01:59:26,190 --> 01:59:29,570 You play them over and over time, and finally... you say: 1997 01:59:29,650 --> 01:59:32,280 Did you know? Really I never liked this part. 1998 01:59:32,360 --> 01:59:34,780 Alright. I like this part here. 1999 01:59:34,870 --> 01:59:38,370 I like this part. That part is okay, you know? 2000 01:59:38,450 --> 01:59:42,580 Until finally, I can't stand that part. 2001 01:59:42,670 --> 01:59:45,090 That's almost right, just one more touch to the right. 2002 01:59:45,170 --> 01:59:50,630 One of my favorite phrases is: the ear goes to the irritant. 2003 01:59:50,720 --> 01:59:55,220 2004 01:59:55,300 --> 01:59:59,100 2005 01:59:59,180 --> 02:00:02,640 2006 02:00:02,730 --> 02:00:06,900 2007 02:00:06,980 --> 02:00:09,230 He always says: "The ear It's going towards the irritating." 2008 02:00:09,320 --> 02:00:14,570 So if something irritates him, he will work in it until you get it the way you want. 2009 02:00:14,660 --> 02:00:19,240 But the essence of what is there, he wakes up and it's there. 2010 02:00:19,330 --> 02:00:21,977 So work on it is the part you need to do 2011 02:00:22,057 --> 02:00:23,620 to justify let that be given to him. 2012 02:00:23,710 --> 02:00:26,590 So it should work harder, as much as you want. 2013 02:00:26,670 --> 02:00:28,960 And some people will say, well, it's too perfect. 2014 02:00:29,050 --> 02:00:32,590 There is no such thing as that. There is no such thing. 2015 02:00:32,670 --> 02:00:36,010 Well. 2016 02:00:39,060 --> 02:00:40,930 There was a lot in there. 2017 02:00:41,020 --> 02:00:44,980 For many people, if I play a piece for you, I say: 2018 02:00:46,060 --> 02:00:48,020 listen to this. 2019 02:00:48,110 --> 02:00:52,530 Well when you first sit down Once, before listening to it, your mind says: 2020 02:00:52,610 --> 02:00:55,990 I hope this is good, you know? 2021 02:00:56,070 --> 02:01:00,790 I hope I don't have to say no fucking compliment 2022 02:01:00,870 --> 02:01:03,210 after it's over Why won't I say: 2023 02:01:03,290 --> 02:01:04,960 Well, I don't like that, you know? 2024 02:01:05,040 --> 02:01:07,704 I know what I'm going to say that I like, 2025 02:01:07,784 --> 02:01:11,800 but it would be much better if I really liked it. 2026 02:01:11,880 --> 02:01:17,800 So when... when the listener sits 2027 02:01:17,890 --> 02:01:20,220 for the first time, has a certain expectation. 2028 02:01:20,310 --> 02:01:22,850 You try to synchronize your piece in such a way 2029 02:01:22,930 --> 02:01:27,310 that you are descending towards the dream... 2030 02:01:29,400 --> 02:01:31,020 easy. 2031 02:01:31,110 --> 02:01:34,490 I'll do it here and then in the third song. 2032 02:01:34,570 --> 02:01:36,360 It really breaks the mood. 2033 02:01:36,450 --> 02:01:38,910 You know, I put you to sleep successfully, hopefully, 2034 02:01:38,990 --> 02:01:42,490 in a dream, but I need your conscience. 2035 02:01:42,580 --> 02:01:44,370 So I'll wake you up a little. 2036 02:01:45,790 --> 02:01:51,590 2037 02:01:51,670 --> 02:01:57,840 slept all night 2038 02:01:57,930 --> 02:02:03,930 2039 02:02:04,020 --> 02:02:07,850 and turn off the light 2040 02:02:10,150 --> 02:02:14,530 2041 02:02:16,950 --> 02:02:23,030 guide star in particular 2042 02:02:23,120 --> 02:02:29,120 2043 02:02:29,210 --> 02:02:33,710 satisfied that you 2044 02:02:35,840 --> 02:02:39,470 whispering in the world 2045 02:02:41,970 --> 02:02:46,430 there is nothing to hide 2046 02:02:47,640 --> 02:02:54,150 complaints to the shore 2047 02:02:54,230 --> 02:02:57,650 the falling tide 2048 02:02:57,740 --> 02:03:00,240 Everyone is naked. There is nothing to hide. 2049 02:03:00,320 --> 02:03:03,280 Just thinking about it... because always We have the mask on. 2050 02:03:03,370 --> 02:03:06,240 Why are we whispering? You always hear people say, 2051 02:03:06,330 --> 02:03:08,790 "I am enough older to say what I think. 2052 02:03:08,870 --> 02:03:11,030 He is talking about age. He's talking about us. 2053 02:03:11,120 --> 02:03:12,420 Why are we whispering? 2054 02:03:12,500 --> 02:03:15,340 2055 02:03:15,420 --> 02:03:19,170 in us 2056 02:03:19,260 --> 02:03:25,600 with your opinion 2057 02:03:31,850 --> 02:03:35,223 What the song sums up is that the only thing that really matters 2058 02:03:35,303 --> 02:03:37,190 is who became us. 2059 02:03:37,280 --> 02:03:40,450 anointed and deceived us with an opinion. 2060 02:03:42,240 --> 02:03:44,370 What do you mean by that you fooled us? 2061 02:03:44,450 --> 02:03:46,990 Did he deceive us with his opinions? 2062 02:03:47,080 --> 02:03:48,678 What... what are you trying tell me, brother? 2063 02:03:48,758 --> 02:03:51,330 Look, now I'm getting into blues territory. 2064 02:03:51,410 --> 02:03:53,670 Things that are neither right nor wrong. 2065 02:03:53,750 --> 02:03:55,460 You know, in "My Professional Opinion", 2066 02:03:55,540 --> 02:03:57,670 I like the way who talks to the critic. 2067 02:03:57,750 --> 02:04:02,720 In his professional opinion, you are all wrong. 2068 02:04:09,930 --> 02:04:10,890 Oh well, everyone... 2069 02:04:10,980 --> 02:04:13,190 Thank you Mother, thank you. 2070 02:04:14,810 --> 02:04:18,320 Hi, I'm John. 2071 02:04:18,400 --> 02:04:22,240 used to play with me mate Paul. 2072 02:04:22,320 --> 02:04:24,320 I'm... I'm Paul. 2073 02:04:24,410 --> 02:04:27,830 I used to play with my partner Art. 2074 02:04:27,910 --> 02:04:29,160 I'm Andy. 2075 02:04:29,240 --> 02:04:31,250 used to play with me partner Claudine. 2076 02:04:34,250 --> 02:04:35,830 Touching. 2077 02:04:35,920 --> 02:04:37,590 - Shall we continue with this? - Let's do it. 2078 02:04:37,670 --> 02:04:38,880 Yes ok. 2079 02:04:40,590 --> 02:04:43,760 For recording year, the winner is... 2080 02:04:43,840 --> 02:04:45,720 Isn't it exciting? 2081 02:04:45,800 --> 02:04:47,350 Oh, two Grammy Awards. 2082 02:04:47,430 --> 02:04:50,390 "I love you honestly," Olivia Newton-John, producer John Farrar. 2083 02:04:50,470 --> 02:04:52,520 Very good, very good. 2084 02:04:52,600 --> 02:04:55,190 Reception of the award for Olivia Newton-John 2085 02:04:55,270 --> 02:04:57,190 It's Garfunkel Art! 2086 02:05:12,870 --> 02:05:14,870 Which one of you is Ringo? 2087 02:05:17,290 --> 02:05:19,750 I thought I told you that You will wait in the car. 2088 02:05:21,840 --> 02:05:23,880 Will you be again together ever? 2089 02:05:23,970 --> 02:05:25,750 Are they going back to be together again? 2090 02:05:25,830 --> 02:05:27,820 No, it's terrible, isn't it? 2091 02:05:28,300 --> 02:05:29,930 - Are you still writing, Paul? - Yeah. 2092 02:05:33,640 --> 02:05:35,560 testing a little of performance, Art. 2093 02:05:40,400 --> 02:05:42,695 There is a period in that you have fame. 2094 02:05:42,775 --> 02:05:45,070 Was that something you Did it weigh at all? 2095 02:05:45,150 --> 02:05:47,110 No, at first I liked it a little. 2096 02:05:47,200 --> 02:05:49,570 At first it was fun. 2097 02:05:49,660 --> 02:05:52,450 I mean, it's... it's the most unreal that you can imagine. 2098 02:05:52,540 --> 02:05:54,410 GOOD. 2099 02:05:54,500 --> 02:05:57,460 And then, inevitably, becomes something 2100 02:05:57,540 --> 02:06:00,460 what do you want... really You don't want it to be there. 2101 02:06:03,210 --> 02:06:05,920 Oh... 2102 02:06:06,010 --> 02:06:07,130 Yeah. 2103 02:06:08,760 --> 02:06:10,760 It's a... well, I have said it a lot. 2104 02:06:10,850 --> 02:06:13,260 You know, fame It's just a poison. 2105 02:06:13,350 --> 02:06:15,100 It's just a poison. 2106 02:06:15,180 --> 02:06:18,770 A little bit of that It strengthens, you know? 2107 02:06:18,850 --> 02:06:21,270 And too much of it would kill you. 2108 02:06:21,360 --> 02:06:24,610 2109 02:06:24,690 --> 02:06:28,530 2110 02:06:28,610 --> 02:06:31,450 2111 02:06:31,530 --> 02:06:34,660 2112 02:06:34,740 --> 02:06:36,960 2113 02:06:37,040 --> 02:06:40,540 2114 02:06:42,790 --> 02:06:48,220 2115 02:06:48,300 --> 02:06:51,300 2116 02:06:51,390 --> 02:06:53,640 2117 02:06:53,720 --> 02:06:55,520 2118 02:06:55,600 --> 02:06:57,880 Every time someone has great success in business 2119 02:06:57,970 --> 02:07:00,150 of music, gets a large number of followers 2120 02:07:00,230 --> 02:07:02,810 who really They adore it, there is no doubt about it. 2121 02:07:02,900 --> 02:07:05,650 Do you like that feeling to possibly be 2122 02:07:05,730 --> 02:07:07,490 the hero or the leader of many people? 2123 02:07:07,570 --> 02:07:09,500 I'm really not aware of that feeling. 2124 02:07:09,580 --> 02:07:11,400 Don't you understand that? 2125 02:07:11,780 --> 02:07:13,830 No not really. I don't... I don't believe that. 2126 02:07:13,910 --> 02:07:16,700 People write about it. They say that happens. 2127 02:07:16,790 --> 02:07:18,540 I don't think so, honestly. 2128 02:07:20,670 --> 02:07:26,590 2129 02:07:26,670 --> 02:07:29,340 2130 02:07:29,420 --> 02:07:32,010 falls apart 2131 02:07:32,090 --> 02:07:34,050 2132 02:07:34,140 --> 02:07:35,510 2133 02:07:35,600 --> 02:07:38,350 2134 02:07:38,430 --> 02:07:40,940 2135 02:07:41,020 --> 02:07:43,020 I wonder if it's hard when 2136 02:07:43,100 --> 02:07:44,690 someone like you achieves so much success. 2137 02:07:44,770 --> 02:07:47,030 and earn all that money and becomes part 2138 02:07:47,110 --> 02:07:49,100 of a world of walking in limousines and having people 2139 02:07:49,180 --> 02:07:50,860 asking for your autograph and all that. 2140 02:07:50,940 --> 02:07:52,700 Have you ever difficult result to return 2141 02:07:52,790 --> 02:07:54,950 to the things that you inspired at the beginning? 2142 02:07:55,030 --> 02:07:58,370 Well, your world changes, and what You write about change, I guess. 2143 02:07:58,450 --> 02:08:01,870 It's not very interesting to write a song about a limousine. 2144 02:08:01,960 --> 02:08:03,580 - No. - I... I would avoid that. 2145 02:08:06,880 --> 02:08:11,880 I have been wrong 2146 02:08:11,970 --> 02:08:17,390 2147 02:08:17,470 --> 02:08:22,730 I have felt abandoned 2148 02:08:22,810 --> 02:08:27,900 2149 02:08:27,980 --> 02:08:31,400 2150 02:08:31,490 --> 02:08:34,070 2151 02:08:34,160 --> 02:08:38,620 2152 02:08:41,330 --> 02:08:46,580 be bright and cheerful 2153 02:08:46,670 --> 02:08:50,960 2154 02:08:52,510 --> 02:08:56,800 2155 02:09:01,100 --> 02:09:06,480 has not been mistreated 2156 02:09:06,560 --> 02:09:11,990 make you feel comfortable 2157 02:09:12,070 --> 02:09:17,280 has not been destroyed 2158 02:09:17,370 --> 02:09:22,950 2159 02:09:23,040 --> 02:09:25,960 2160 02:09:26,040 --> 02:09:28,540 2161 02:09:28,630 --> 02:09:32,670 good for so long 2162 02:09:35,300 --> 02:09:40,640 path we are traveling 2163 02:09:40,720 --> 02:09:45,640 2164 02:09:45,730 --> 02:09:49,150 2165 02:09:49,230 --> 02:09:54,490 2166 02:09:54,570 --> 02:09:57,030 2167 02:09:59,570 --> 02:10:05,660 woke up unexpectedly 2168 02:10:05,750 --> 02:10:08,170 2169 02:10:08,250 --> 02:10:11,750 2170 02:10:11,840 --> 02:10:17,050 2171 02:10:17,130 --> 02:10:23,010 eyes could see clearly 2172 02:10:23,100 --> 02:10:26,180 2173 02:10:26,270 --> 02:10:29,690 2174 02:10:29,770 --> 02:10:32,230 2175 02:10:35,360 --> 02:10:40,910 which they called The Mayflower 2176 02:10:40,990 --> 02:10:46,580 who sailed across the moon 2177 02:10:46,660 --> 02:10:51,960 most uncertain of the time 2178 02:10:52,040 --> 02:10:56,130 2179 02:10:56,210 --> 02:11:00,550 2180 02:11:00,640 --> 02:11:03,220 2181 02:11:03,300 --> 02:11:09,940 blessed forever 2182 02:11:10,020 --> 02:11:15,400 it will be another business day 2183 02:11:15,480 --> 02:11:20,610 rest a little 2184 02:11:20,700 --> 02:11:27,160 to rest a little 2185 02:11:43,550 --> 02:11:47,396 You release records and talk to the people you want to talk to. 2186 02:11:47,476 --> 02:11:50,080 And anyway the other people don't listen, 2187 02:11:50,170 --> 02:11:51,900 which is nonsense of the whole thing. 2188 02:11:51,990 --> 02:11:54,670 They would say: "We are not interested in his political opinions 2189 02:11:54,750 --> 02:11:56,210 nor in his vision of society. 2190 02:11:56,690 --> 02:11:58,360 Just sing. 2191 02:11:58,440 --> 02:12:00,320 That's what you do. You sing, right? 2192 02:12:00,400 --> 02:12:01,860 Don't do anything else. " 2193 02:12:04,620 --> 02:12:06,720 I want to know if there is... There is a burden with that. 2194 02:12:06,800 --> 02:12:09,207 I mean, do you feel a overwhelming responsibility 2195 02:12:09,287 --> 02:12:12,637 If someone comes up and says: 'Bridge over troubled waters' 2196 02:12:12,717 --> 02:12:15,630 has changed my life and I'm going to move" or something like that? 2197 02:12:18,630 --> 02:12:21,771 I think there's... there's a pressure when I write 2198 02:12:22,851 --> 02:12:27,810 that has made it more difficult to write... in recent years. 2199 02:12:28,890 --> 02:12:31,850 The case in question is that I wrote and acted 2200 02:12:31,930 --> 02:12:34,480 and starred in a movie llamada "One-Trick Pony". 2201 02:12:34,560 --> 02:12:37,967 I got a huge satisfaction when writing the script, 2202 02:12:38,047 --> 02:12:40,990 then write the music and acting in it. 2203 02:12:41,070 --> 02:12:43,224 And sometimes an artist does a work 2204 02:12:43,304 --> 02:12:47,330 and the work makes you stretch as an artist, which you should do. 2205 02:12:47,410 --> 02:12:49,660 2206 02:12:49,740 --> 02:12:52,250 that horse can do 2207 02:12:55,920 --> 02:12:58,840 2208 02:12:58,920 --> 02:13:02,170 source of your income 2209 02:13:02,260 --> 02:13:04,720 "One-Trick Pony" comes next 2210 02:13:04,800 --> 02:13:06,720 "Still crazy after of all these years. " 2211 02:13:06,800 --> 02:13:08,820 And with "Still crazy "After all these years," 2212 02:13:08,910 --> 02:13:10,520 being a number one album and 2213 02:13:10,600 --> 02:13:13,850 winning the Grammy for Best Album, 2214 02:13:13,940 --> 02:13:16,073 I felt that if I had something to prove 2215 02:13:16,153 --> 02:13:19,520 about leaving simon and Garfunkel had proven it. 2216 02:13:19,610 --> 02:13:23,190 And now I was searching another challenge, you know? 2217 02:13:23,280 --> 02:13:25,610 - Move a little. - Action. 2218 02:13:25,700 --> 02:13:26,800 Well, well... uh... 2219 02:13:27,080 --> 02:13:30,370 I think it is very important for you make the right record right now. 2220 02:13:30,450 --> 02:13:32,700 This song is llama "Ace in the Hole". 2221 02:13:32,790 --> 02:13:35,970 We have done very well in the clubs the ones we've been playing at. 2222 02:13:37,290 --> 02:13:40,550 music is the ace in the hole 2223 02:13:40,630 --> 02:13:42,710 ordinary blues 2224 02:13:42,800 --> 02:13:44,020 2225 02:13:44,110 --> 02:13:45,470 It's about a... a musician 2226 02:13:45,550 --> 02:13:47,550 which is like in the middle. 2227 02:13:47,640 --> 02:13:50,890 - It's not at the top of - your profession nor on the basis. 2228 02:13:50,970 --> 02:13:53,270 that music is sweet 2229 02:13:56,520 --> 02:14:01,820 He is in the middle of his career and He is traveling through the center of the country. 2230 02:14:01,900 --> 02:14:03,230 and throughout the Midwest. 2231 02:14:03,320 --> 02:14:05,240 And he is about 30 years old. 2232 02:14:05,320 --> 02:14:07,996 So he is someone which is right in the middle 2233 02:14:08,076 --> 02:14:10,751 and what are the problems when you get to that point 2234 02:14:10,831 --> 02:14:12,580 in your life and your career. 2235 02:14:12,660 --> 02:14:15,790 It's a great day for baseball here at Yankee Stadium. 2236 02:14:15,870 --> 02:14:19,580 The New York Yankees They face the Boston Red Sox. 2237 02:14:19,670 --> 02:14:22,920 The first batter of the Yankees will be... Reggie Jackson! 2238 02:14:23,000 --> 02:14:24,976 Reggie Jackson finishes starting second grade 2239 02:14:25,056 --> 02:14:28,090 in the little school Greenwich Village red. 2240 02:14:28,180 --> 02:14:29,770 Well, and the tone. 2241 02:14:29,850 --> 02:14:31,300 Reg swings! It's on! 2242 02:14:31,380 --> 02:14:33,670 That could be out of here! It's a big problem! 2243 02:14:33,750 --> 02:14:34,700 Reggie is leaving! 2244 02:14:34,780 --> 02:14:37,691 Obviously, we will continue tracing these autobiographical links. 2245 02:14:37,771 --> 02:14:38,800 You almost can't help it. 2246 02:14:38,890 --> 02:14:41,250 For example, in the movie you have a six year old son 2247 02:14:41,330 --> 02:14:42,980 played by an actor, 2248 02:14:43,070 --> 02:14:45,126 and you actually have a six year old son. 2249 02:14:45,206 --> 02:14:47,700 Did you see all the cameras? You didn't see me. 2250 02:14:47,780 --> 02:14:49,740 - You just arrived, huh? - Yeah. 2251 02:14:52,200 --> 02:14:53,990 Do you live in a caravan? 2252 02:14:54,080 --> 02:14:56,364 No, I'll just stay here in the afternoon. 2253 02:14:56,444 --> 02:14:58,370 You know I'm in that hotel room. 2254 02:14:58,460 --> 02:15:00,500 - Do you remember when... - Oh, yes. 2255 02:15:00,580 --> 02:15:03,630 That aspect of the movie It is slightly autobiographical. 2256 02:15:03,710 --> 02:15:06,010 I mean, the fact that I have a son. 2257 02:15:06,090 --> 02:15:08,879 And some of the activities what do we do in the movie 2258 02:15:08,959 --> 02:15:10,770 are things that I have made with my son. 2259 02:15:11,050 --> 02:15:12,800 Now you look like yourself. 2260 02:15:14,470 --> 02:15:16,140 - Brand. - Marker. 2261 02:15:16,220 --> 02:15:17,850 That's great. I really like that. 2262 02:15:17,930 --> 02:15:20,480 Why don't you come in? We will listen to the playback. 2263 02:15:20,560 --> 02:15:23,480 Jonah, I have some ideas. which I would like to talk to you about. 2264 02:15:24,900 --> 02:15:26,820 The electric piano that Clarence 2265 02:15:26,900 --> 02:15:28,914 play on the bridge It's a beautiful thing there. 2266 02:15:28,994 --> 02:15:31,360 I think we could have some threads there, you know. 2267 02:15:31,450 --> 02:15:34,490 Pretty, pretty, pretty and heavy string section there. 2268 02:15:34,580 --> 02:15:36,540 Texturally, it would be beautiful. 2269 02:15:36,620 --> 02:15:39,870 I think it is worth investing time and money to book a session. 2270 02:15:41,580 --> 02:15:43,380 Oh, come on. It will rip your heart out. 2271 02:15:51,430 --> 02:15:52,890 In the case of One-Trick Pony, 2272 02:15:52,970 --> 02:15:56,010 I tried to stretch. 2273 02:15:56,100 --> 02:15:58,890 And during the work process, 2274 02:15:58,980 --> 02:16:01,865 I was very happy, so happy as always when I work, 2275 02:16:01,945 --> 02:16:04,360 which is probably the happiest I have ever been. 2276 02:16:06,150 --> 02:16:10,070 And then the work was very enriching for me. 2277 02:16:10,150 --> 02:16:13,860 But the sequel produced the effect 2278 02:16:13,950 --> 02:16:16,950 contrary why not It was a popular success. 2279 02:16:17,030 --> 02:16:20,370 what I was used to until that moment. 2280 02:16:20,450 --> 02:16:22,532 For a long time time I felt very, 2281 02:16:22,612 --> 02:16:25,380 very guilty for that, very bad, as if I... 2282 02:16:25,460 --> 02:16:28,210 as if he had done Something wrong, you know? 2283 02:16:28,300 --> 02:16:30,210 Is there almost one feeling of shame? 2284 02:16:30,300 --> 02:16:32,380 Do you think: "What have I made myself here?" 2285 02:16:32,470 --> 02:16:34,050 Not to myself. 2286 02:16:34,140 --> 02:16:36,050 I felt that there was disappointed a lot of people. 2287 02:16:36,140 --> 02:16:38,810 I thought there must be made some terrible mistake. 2288 02:16:51,150 --> 02:16:56,240 Because One-Trick Pony was a failure, 2289 02:16:56,320 --> 02:17:01,450 when they asked me to do a concert in Central Park, 2290 02:17:01,540 --> 02:17:05,620 I thought, well, I just have this big failure. 2291 02:17:05,710 --> 02:17:07,750 Maybe I should ask Artie to come 2292 02:17:07,840 --> 02:17:10,090 and sing some songs about this. 2293 02:17:11,840 --> 02:17:13,130 It's Central Park. 2294 02:17:13,220 --> 02:17:14,840 we will have to do more than 15 minutes. 2295 02:17:14,930 --> 02:17:17,650 We'll have to do, you know, maybe half the show, 2296 02:17:17,730 --> 02:17:20,140 and then I said, well, if we do half the show, 2297 02:17:20,220 --> 02:17:22,740 That means I'll have to open for Simon and Garfunkel. 2298 02:17:22,830 --> 02:17:25,040 We're right on the edge of the feedback here... 2299 02:17:25,120 --> 02:17:27,210 ...which I don't want to do. 2300 02:17:28,690 --> 02:17:31,030 So let's do it all Simon and Garfunkel. 2301 02:17:41,620 --> 02:17:44,120 I got through it all, of course. 2302 02:17:44,210 --> 02:17:46,120 We discovered three looks diferentes. 2303 02:17:46,210 --> 02:17:48,960 Because you are doing about two hours. 2304 02:17:49,040 --> 02:17:53,170 Then it was late, twilight and night. 2305 02:17:57,220 --> 02:18:00,010 sing my songs 2306 02:18:00,100 --> 02:18:04,520 2307 02:18:04,600 --> 02:18:08,150 2308 02:18:08,230 --> 02:18:10,980 words come back to me 2309 02:18:11,070 --> 02:18:13,480 2310 02:18:13,570 --> 02:18:16,320 2311 02:18:16,400 --> 02:18:20,910 someone comfort me 2312 02:18:20,990 --> 02:18:24,200 2313 02:18:24,290 --> 02:18:27,040 2314 02:18:27,120 --> 02:18:30,670 2315 02:18:30,750 --> 02:18:33,210 my thoughts escape 2316 02:18:33,300 --> 02:18:36,170 my music plays 2317 02:18:36,260 --> 02:18:43,010 lies waiting for me in silence 2318 02:18:43,100 --> 02:18:44,680 I don't think we had 2319 02:18:44,770 --> 02:18:47,180 idea of โ€‹โ€‹how many people would attend. 2320 02:18:47,270 --> 02:18:48,730 New York is dangerous, already 2321 02:18:48,810 --> 02:18:50,270 you know, completely upside down 2322 02:18:50,350 --> 02:18:54,070 And it was a bold thing to do. 2323 02:18:54,150 --> 02:18:55,900 And it was a very New York event. 2324 02:18:55,990 --> 02:18:57,700 because they are both from Queens. 2325 02:18:57,780 --> 02:18:58,700 Ladies and gentlemen, 2326 02:18:58,780 --> 02:19:00,780 Simon and Garfunkel. 2327 02:19:00,870 --> 02:19:02,580 I knew we had something and 2328 02:19:02,660 --> 02:19:04,870 which was a cool thing to do. 2329 02:19:04,950 --> 02:19:07,790 Well it's great to do a neighborhood concert. 2330 02:19:09,000 --> 02:19:11,210 They showed up around of half a million people. 2331 02:19:11,290 --> 02:19:12,880 I hope everyone can hear us. 2332 02:19:12,960 --> 02:19:15,380 I hope that sound is good. 2333 02:19:15,460 --> 02:19:17,050 In fact, I felt nervous. 2334 02:19:17,130 --> 02:19:18,970 I'm used to it to go on stage, 2335 02:19:19,050 --> 02:19:21,220 but even though we had played in arenas, 2336 02:19:21,300 --> 02:19:23,890 We never touched anything that big. 2337 02:19:23,970 --> 02:19:26,015 The longing to have them together was the greatest 2338 02:19:26,095 --> 02:19:28,140 that any of the two had ever done. 2339 02:19:30,730 --> 02:19:32,900 2340 02:19:32,980 --> 02:19:35,900 2341 02:19:35,980 --> 02:19:38,490 2342 02:19:38,570 --> 02:19:41,240 my resistance 2343 02:19:41,320 --> 02:19:43,990 full of murmurs 2344 02:19:44,070 --> 02:19:47,620 2345 02:19:47,700 --> 02:19:49,460 2346 02:19:49,540 --> 02:19:52,750 what you want to hear 2347 02:19:52,830 --> 02:19:55,630 2348 02:19:55,710 --> 02:19:58,510 2349 02:19:58,590 --> 02:20:05,590 2350 02:20:05,680 --> 02:20:08,350 house and my family 2351 02:20:08,430 --> 02:20:10,770 2352 02:20:10,850 --> 02:20:14,190 2353 02:20:14,270 --> 02:20:20,990 train running scared 2354 02:20:21,070 --> 02:20:25,370 looking for the poorest neighborhoods 2355 02:20:25,450 --> 02:20:28,370 2356 02:20:28,450 --> 02:20:33,540 that only they would know 2357 02:20:33,620 --> 02:20:36,380 2358 02:20:36,460 --> 02:20:39,340 2359 02:20:39,420 --> 02:20:42,510 2360 02:20:42,590 --> 02:20:45,390 the, by the light 2361 02:20:45,470 --> 02:20:48,060 2362 02:20:48,140 --> 02:20:51,230 2363 02:21:01,900 --> 02:21:04,410 Well, I hope you can hear me. 2364 02:21:04,490 --> 02:21:06,870 I would like to sing a new song. 2365 02:21:09,740 --> 02:21:13,080 I have recorded this song and never I had played it before. 2366 02:21:13,160 --> 02:21:15,420 So this is the first time. 2367 02:21:20,590 --> 02:21:22,170 "The late great Johnny Ace" 2368 02:21:22,260 --> 02:21:24,380 It's about John Lennon. It's about... 2369 02:21:24,470 --> 02:21:27,550 - Kennedy. - Kennedy y Johnny Ace. 2370 02:21:27,640 --> 02:21:28,850 Yes, all the shots. 2371 02:21:28,930 --> 02:21:30,260 All the gun violence. 2372 02:21:34,350 --> 02:21:37,560 This was shortly after that the dispararan has Lennon. 2373 02:21:37,650 --> 02:21:39,520 I was in the control room. 2374 02:21:39,610 --> 02:21:42,360 The camera work and all of that was great. 2375 02:21:42,440 --> 02:21:44,900 And suddenly it happened. 2376 02:21:44,990 --> 02:21:47,780 He came up and asked me 2377 02:21:47,870 --> 02:21:51,370 John Lennon had died 2378 02:21:51,450 --> 02:21:55,040 2379 02:21:55,120 --> 02:21:58,210 to close the place 2380 02:21:58,290 --> 02:22:01,300 I saw through 11 or 12 cameras to 2381 02:22:01,380 --> 02:22:03,630 a guy running towards the stage. 2382 02:22:05,300 --> 02:22:08,890 I saw him go on stage, already You know, out of the corner of my eye. 2383 02:22:11,720 --> 02:22:16,270 The interesting thing about this is that my band... are ready to enter, 2384 02:22:16,350 --> 02:22:19,230 and Artie is sitting at the end. 2385 02:22:19,310 --> 02:22:20,480 He didn't jump and... 2386 02:22:21,650 --> 02:22:22,550 No. 2387 02:22:25,400 --> 02:22:26,740 I have to talk to you, Paul. 2388 02:22:26,820 --> 02:22:28,990 I have to talk to you. I have to talk to you. 2389 02:22:31,490 --> 02:22:33,830 2390 02:22:33,910 --> 02:22:38,500 big Johnny Ace, yeah, yeah, yeah 2391 02:22:38,580 --> 02:22:40,962 I asked them both what were they thinking 2392 02:22:41,042 --> 02:22:44,250 and Artie's thought It was, "Oh, I can't believe it." 2393 02:22:44,340 --> 02:22:46,340 This guy is ruining Paul's song. 2394 02:22:46,420 --> 02:22:48,130 And Paul's thought was: 2395 02:22:48,220 --> 02:22:52,100 "I can't believe this guy is ruining my song." 2396 02:22:52,180 --> 02:22:54,000 Because they acted during the 60's, 2397 02:22:54,080 --> 02:22:56,500 neither of them He thought: "I'm going to die." 2398 02:22:58,730 --> 02:23:00,520 Thank you so much. 2399 02:23:00,600 --> 02:23:02,610 Yes, thanks from the bottom of our hearts. 2400 02:23:02,690 --> 02:23:05,320 - Gracias. - You made us feel great. 2401 02:23:05,400 --> 02:23:11,530 After the concert in Central Park with Simon and Garfunkel, it was a huge success. 2402 02:23:11,620 --> 02:23:17,960 And then he forced us to, or forced me me, to get the group back together. 2403 02:23:18,040 --> 02:23:21,290 and taking a tour. 2404 02:23:21,380 --> 02:23:26,800 I'm like a swimmer standing on the edge of the pool that is now looking at the water. 2405 02:23:26,880 --> 02:23:29,130 for a couple of weeks, dying to enter. 2406 02:23:29,220 --> 02:23:31,040 I'm very, very excited. 2407 02:23:31,620 --> 02:23:33,010 I always like it sing with Artie. 2408 02:23:33,100 --> 02:23:34,670 Could you turn a little to your left? 2409 02:23:34,760 --> 02:23:37,270 I'm telling you, I just can't. get along with that boy. 2410 02:23:37,360 --> 02:23:38,730 Very difficult. No, I'm joking. 2411 02:23:38,810 --> 02:23:41,660 We were notoriously antagonistic, but I thought, 2412 02:23:42,150 --> 02:23:44,860 did you know? I'm going to leave all that aside 2413 02:23:44,940 --> 02:23:48,650 and just have a good reunion tour with Artie. 2414 02:23:50,320 --> 02:23:52,720 Here's another new song called "Think Too Much." 2415 02:23:56,830 --> 02:23:59,000 Does Art Garfunkel ever Did it ever get on your nerves? 2416 02:24:02,580 --> 02:24:04,540 Oh, he always told me gets on your nerves. 2417 02:24:05,990 --> 02:24:07,670 -He was... - I shouldn't always say, 2418 02:24:07,760 --> 02:24:10,550 but periodically we We get on each other's nerves. 2419 02:24:10,630 --> 02:24:13,470 When I say periodically, I mean yes 2420 02:24:13,550 --> 02:24:16,390 we are together, probably every day. 2421 02:24:19,600 --> 02:24:21,730 2422 02:24:21,810 --> 02:24:23,360 tough, okay 2423 02:24:23,450 --> 02:24:24,490 We both did it. 2424 02:24:24,770 --> 02:24:28,230 for my own good 2425 02:24:28,320 --> 02:24:30,360 2426 02:24:30,440 --> 02:24:32,450 2427 02:24:32,530 --> 02:24:36,780 you think as much as you could 2428 02:24:36,870 --> 02:24:38,740 2429 02:24:41,160 --> 02:24:45,710 fortunately it was brief 2430 02:24:45,790 --> 02:24:48,210 of disbelief 2431 02:24:48,300 --> 02:24:50,314 I've known Art since I'm 10 years old 2432 02:24:50,394 --> 02:24:54,300 so I think we have developed our own style of disagreement. 2433 02:24:54,380 --> 02:24:56,050 You know? Is... 2434 02:24:56,140 --> 02:24:59,720 It is a very subtle way to irritate the other person. 2435 02:24:59,810 --> 02:25:02,230 2436 02:25:02,310 --> 02:25:03,810 2437 02:25:03,890 --> 02:25:05,663 As the tour was a success, we said, well, 2438 02:25:05,743 --> 02:25:07,560 the disk on which I was working, 2439 02:25:07,650 --> 02:25:10,480 "Hearts and Bones" will be a disco de Simon and Garfunkel. 2440 02:25:10,570 --> 02:25:12,650 2441 02:25:12,740 --> 02:25:15,370 You were separated for 11 years, each one went their separate ways. 2442 02:25:15,460 --> 02:25:17,490 Was it difficult for you after separation? 2443 02:25:17,570 --> 02:25:19,240 I don't remember it being so difficult, 2444 02:25:19,330 --> 02:25:21,500 rather it was exciting. 2445 02:25:21,580 --> 02:25:23,830 to carry out their individual work. 2446 02:25:23,910 --> 02:25:27,890 I went in knowing that probably It wouldn't be as popular or as successful. 2447 02:25:29,170 --> 02:25:31,960 as was Simon and Garfunkel, but... 2448 02:25:34,170 --> 02:25:35,760 That's what I expected. 2449 02:25:35,840 --> 02:25:38,600 And it wasn't, but It was... it was exciting 2450 02:25:38,680 --> 02:25:41,010 and artistically satisfactory for me. 2451 02:25:41,100 --> 02:25:42,520 I liked it. 2452 02:25:42,600 --> 02:25:44,942 Listen, tell me about the reunion concert 2453 02:25:45,022 --> 02:25:46,688 The way in which we used to work was 2454 02:25:46,768 --> 02:25:49,310 that I wrote a song and we resolved the harmonies 2455 02:25:49,400 --> 02:25:50,770 and sing it together. 2456 02:25:50,860 --> 02:25:52,690 We were friends. We were hanging out. 2457 02:25:52,780 --> 02:25:55,110 But when we were doing "Hearts and Bones", 2458 02:25:55,200 --> 02:25:59,830 Artie's idea was "Give me the songs and I will go to Switzerland" 2459 02:25:59,910 --> 02:26:03,700 and walk and compose the harmonies. " 2460 02:26:03,790 --> 02:26:07,290 It was a recapitulation of He's in Mexico making a movie. 2461 02:26:07,370 --> 02:26:11,130 Well now I wanted smoking and walking around Switzerland 2462 02:26:11,210 --> 02:26:13,300 and invent harmonies with these songs. 2463 02:26:13,380 --> 02:26:16,680 And then he sent them back, We looked and said, what is that? 2464 02:26:17,760 --> 02:26:19,550 What is this? 2465 02:26:19,640 --> 02:26:22,640 It didn't sound like him old Simon and Garfunkel. 2466 02:26:22,720 --> 02:26:25,140 2467 02:26:25,230 --> 02:26:27,850 And I just said, I can't work this way. 2468 02:26:27,940 --> 02:26:31,860 2469 02:26:31,940 --> 02:26:36,860 park as bookends 2470 02:26:36,950 --> 02:26:40,410 among the grass 2471 02:26:40,490 --> 02:26:43,870 2472 02:26:43,950 --> 02:26:50,170 of old friends 2473 02:26:50,250 --> 02:26:54,880 The breakup that occurred after Catch-22, it was never repaired. 2474 02:26:54,960 --> 02:26:56,720 They just put it a bandage on top. 2475 02:26:56,800 --> 02:26:59,680 But the bandage was so luxurious, 2476 02:26:59,760 --> 02:27:02,100 the concert in Central Park... 2477 02:27:02,180 --> 02:27:07,390 coats waiting for the sun 2478 02:27:07,480 --> 02:27:13,190 We forget that, essentially, We were done as a team. 2479 02:27:13,270 --> 02:27:17,690 Will you part again after the tour, Art? 2480 02:27:17,780 --> 02:27:20,570 No, I mean, I don't think so. that when the tour ends, 2481 02:27:20,660 --> 02:27:23,530 Let's say that completes what we set out to do. 2482 02:27:23,620 --> 02:27:26,700 So we both have thought that possibly 2483 02:27:26,790 --> 02:27:29,870 let's do more together after that. 2484 02:27:29,960 --> 02:27:32,630 So I decided that I'm not going to do it. 2485 02:27:32,710 --> 02:27:34,340 Now I have to make an announcement. 2486 02:27:34,430 --> 02:27:35,800 "Hearts and bones"... 2487 02:27:35,880 --> 02:27:38,880 It won't be an album by Simon and Garfunkel. 2488 02:27:38,970 --> 02:27:40,760 Everyone was disappointed. 2489 02:27:40,840 --> 02:27:42,720 So that record it was like damn 2490 02:27:42,800 --> 02:27:46,180 before really could take off. 2491 02:27:48,640 --> 02:27:51,919 Some of the songs I took them to a wonderful place 2492 02:27:51,999 --> 02:27:54,230 for what i can do with harmony. 2493 02:27:54,310 --> 02:27:56,230 and how can I rearrange things. 2494 02:27:56,320 --> 02:27:58,240 Paul was telling me repressing, saying: 2495 02:27:58,320 --> 02:27:59,990 "I don't want to do that. 2496 02:28:00,070 --> 02:28:03,210 You forget, Artie, what you're doing a serious statement when you do that. 2497 02:28:03,290 --> 02:28:05,710 I don't want to make that statement about these songs." 2498 02:28:05,790 --> 02:28:08,260 The statement that was doing was that these songs 2499 02:28:08,350 --> 02:28:11,460 are about to turn much more attractive. 2500 02:28:11,540 --> 02:28:15,590 because the visceral appeal is increasing considerably. 2501 02:28:15,670 --> 02:28:18,590 So I was about to do that with all the songs. 2502 02:28:18,670 --> 02:28:22,180 And Paul... Paul called me one day. 2503 02:28:22,260 --> 02:28:24,260 I was in New England. 2504 02:28:24,340 --> 02:28:27,820 He said, "Artie, I'm going to erase all your tapes. 2505 02:28:27,900 --> 02:28:29,940 I'm deleting your harmonies throughout the album. 2506 02:28:30,030 --> 02:28:31,380 "Oh, really, Paul?" 2507 02:28:31,560 --> 02:28:33,770 "And I will marry Carrie Fisher on Tuesday. 2508 02:28:33,850 --> 02:28:35,310 Do you want to come to the wedding?" 2509 02:28:37,570 --> 02:28:40,780 Ladies and gentlemen, Carrie Fisher. 2510 02:28:45,530 --> 02:28:50,290 I felt a little uncomfortable leaving with my Princess Leia costume. 2511 02:28:50,370 --> 02:28:53,460 Because it might seem like I'm blowing up Star Wars. 2512 02:28:53,540 --> 02:28:55,670 But you know, I followed it because, 2513 02:28:55,750 --> 02:28:57,630 you know, if I go out like myself, 2514 02:28:57,710 --> 02:28:59,130 Who would recognize me? 2515 02:28:59,210 --> 02:29:02,050 And Obi Wan said, look, the costume... 2516 02:29:02,130 --> 02:29:05,180 In the middle of that tour reunion, I got married. 2517 02:29:05,260 --> 02:29:07,800 I married Carrie Fisher. 2518 02:29:12,770 --> 02:29:15,230 Thank you all for joining us on our honeymoon. 2519 02:29:15,310 --> 02:29:17,650 we couldn't have done it without you. 2520 02:29:19,940 --> 02:29:24,740 song about the moon 2521 02:29:24,820 --> 02:29:27,107 evening craters 2522 02:29:27,187 --> 02:29:29,530 Were you the godfather wedding at the wedding? 2523 02:29:29,620 --> 02:29:31,230 - The best man. - The best man. 2524 02:29:31,310 --> 02:29:33,080 Yes, what is the preferred role. 2525 02:29:33,160 --> 02:29:36,040 deep and the light is strange 2526 02:29:36,120 --> 02:29:38,540 For the commitment We went to Greece. 2527 02:29:38,630 --> 02:29:40,750 Paul had rented a boat. 2528 02:29:40,840 --> 02:29:44,670 I was dizzy for three days on the railing praying for death. 2529 02:29:44,760 --> 02:29:47,220 Apart from that, it was a very fun moment. 2530 02:29:47,300 --> 02:29:49,890 And for the honeymoon we went 2531 02:29:49,970 --> 02:29:52,060 to Egypt, we went up the Nile. 2532 02:29:52,140 --> 02:29:55,600 he laughed a lot 2533 02:29:55,690 --> 02:30:00,230 2534 02:30:00,320 --> 02:30:03,690 laughs a lot 2535 02:30:03,780 --> 02:30:07,360 They rolled down his face 2536 02:30:07,450 --> 02:30:10,410 There were many things notable at that time. 2537 02:30:10,490 --> 02:30:13,950 But also, they are two people at the top 2538 02:30:14,040 --> 02:30:16,710 of his career, and that It's always complicated. 2539 02:30:16,790 --> 02:30:18,710 Everything was one kind of whirlwind. 2540 02:30:18,790 --> 02:30:21,090 Carrie was in a complete 2541 02:30:21,170 --> 02:30:23,550 fame bubble because of Star Wars. 2542 02:30:23,630 --> 02:30:26,050 Carrie was much more oriented to the world of entertainment. 2543 02:30:26,130 --> 02:30:27,560 I agreed with that. 2544 02:30:27,640 --> 02:30:29,300 That's the world in which she grew up. 2545 02:30:29,390 --> 02:30:32,390 I was used to it, used to it to a lot of press and things like that. 2546 02:30:32,470 --> 02:30:34,560 It wasn't intimidating. or anything like that. 2547 02:30:34,640 --> 02:30:37,640 He knew how to manipulate it and make it work for her. 2548 02:30:37,730 --> 02:30:39,600 She was really good at it. 2549 02:30:39,690 --> 02:30:41,060 And it wasn't. 2550 02:30:44,990 --> 02:30:48,570 In the 70s, Paul forged a very successful career. 2551 02:30:48,660 --> 02:30:51,370 That's true, but in the '80s, Paul had some problems. 2552 02:30:51,460 --> 02:30:52,780 He made an album and it flopped. 2553 02:30:52,870 --> 02:30:54,910 made a movie and it also failed. 2554 02:30:55,000 --> 02:30:56,703 and then he got married with Carrie Fisher, 2555 02:30:56,783 --> 02:30:59,460 and six months later, the marriage also failed. 2556 02:31:01,000 --> 02:31:05,090 You know, I mean, What was I thinking about? 2557 02:31:05,170 --> 02:31:08,567 You know, I mean, certainly don't think about life, 2558 02:31:08,647 --> 02:31:11,260 you know, that in You actually have to stop. 2559 02:31:11,340 --> 02:31:15,140 Marriage is very... it's a difficult thing. to do, you need to focus on it. 2560 02:31:15,220 --> 02:31:16,770 Not everything can happen at once. 2561 02:31:16,850 --> 02:31:18,480 Not everything is a media event. 2562 02:31:18,560 --> 02:31:22,610 All kinds of errors on top of errors on top of errors. 2563 02:31:22,690 --> 02:31:26,320 I realized that I could get tired of... 2564 02:31:26,400 --> 02:31:30,280 In fact, I might run out 2565 02:31:30,360 --> 02:31:33,990 with... an emotional disorder. 2566 02:31:34,080 --> 02:31:37,200 Have you ever had problems to face one day then? 2567 02:31:37,290 --> 02:31:40,870 Did you ever think What, oh man...? 2568 02:31:40,960 --> 02:31:44,630 Worst. Worst. 2569 02:31:55,720 --> 02:31:59,390 2570 02:31:59,480 --> 02:32:03,900 wherever they want 2571 02:32:03,980 --> 02:32:08,400 in the Blood of Christ 2572 02:32:08,490 --> 02:32:14,870 mountains of new mexico 2573 02:32:14,950 --> 02:32:17,700 leg of a trip 2574 02:32:17,790 --> 02:32:22,080 2575 02:32:22,170 --> 02:32:26,540 2576 02:32:26,630 --> 02:32:32,050 desert air 2577 02:32:32,130 --> 02:32:38,720 they slide between the stones 2578 02:32:38,810 --> 02:32:41,100 2579 02:32:43,190 --> 02:32:45,560 2580 02:32:45,650 --> 02:32:47,220 Was the marriage something wrong? 2581 02:32:47,310 --> 02:32:48,230 - Yeah. - Because? 2582 02:32:48,320 --> 02:32:49,860 We were much better. 2583 02:32:49,940 --> 02:32:52,450 Well because I think If you look at me, at most, 2584 02:32:52,530 --> 02:32:55,030 you might think I am an interesting girlfriend. 2585 02:32:55,120 --> 02:32:56,530 But a wife? 2586 02:32:56,620 --> 02:32:59,240 I think you will be disappointed. 2587 02:32:59,330 --> 02:33:02,790 Poor Paul...he had to put up with me a lot. 2588 02:33:02,870 --> 02:33:05,290 I think in the end I fell under the title 2589 02:33:05,380 --> 02:33:08,210 of a good anecdote, bad reality 2590 02:33:08,300 --> 02:33:10,210 I was very good at the material. 2591 02:33:10,300 --> 02:33:12,760 But as far as to everyday life, 2592 02:33:12,840 --> 02:33:15,390 I was a little more what he could bear. 2593 02:33:15,470 --> 02:33:18,310 2594 02:33:18,390 --> 02:33:23,600 Because of who I am, where am I? 2595 02:33:23,690 --> 02:33:26,560 Why don't you love me Because of who I am, where am I? 2596 02:33:26,650 --> 02:33:29,440 It's not the world, baby 2597 02:33:29,520 --> 02:33:31,900 Things are not like that. 2598 02:33:31,990 --> 02:33:34,570 2599 02:33:34,650 --> 02:33:37,070 I remember someone reviewed it. 2600 02:33:37,160 --> 02:33:40,330 He said, "Wow, I sure don't I would like to be close to Paul Simon. 2601 02:33:40,410 --> 02:33:44,580 "He seems like a very cold guy," you already know. 2602 02:33:44,660 --> 02:33:46,420 It's a song, you know? 2603 02:33:46,500 --> 02:33:49,960 It's a song. That It is not my official philosophy. 2604 02:33:50,050 --> 02:33:52,340 I'm telling a story. 2605 02:33:56,720 --> 02:34:00,640 2606 02:34:00,720 --> 02:34:04,930 2607 02:34:05,020 --> 02:34:07,600 old acquaintances 2608 02:34:07,690 --> 02:34:09,940 2609 02:34:10,020 --> 02:34:13,940 had been the most damaged 2610 02:34:16,780 --> 02:34:19,780 2611 02:34:19,870 --> 02:34:25,460 will be your reward 2612 02:34:25,540 --> 02:34:29,960 2613 02:34:30,040 --> 02:34:34,050 2614 02:34:34,130 --> 02:34:36,340 You've already had two marriages. 2615 02:34:36,420 --> 02:34:40,010 Do you think marriage is out of the question in the future? 2616 02:34:40,100 --> 02:34:44,470 No, I think that if you fall in love, 2617 02:34:44,560 --> 02:34:47,140 you will probably get married. 2618 02:34:47,230 --> 02:34:51,560 So many times How does that happen to you in life? 2619 02:34:51,650 --> 02:34:53,490 For the lucky ones, this happens once. 2620 02:34:54,820 --> 02:34:57,430 But to other people lucky ones it still happens to them. 2621 02:35:02,330 --> 02:35:04,870 Hey Siri, call Edie. 2622 02:35:06,910 --> 02:35:08,000 Hello. 2623 02:35:08,080 --> 02:35:09,500 Hello. What are you doing? 2624 02:35:09,580 --> 02:35:12,750 I'm playing "Mystery Train." I love it. 2625 02:35:12,840 --> 02:35:14,000 Well, are you ready for me? 2626 02:35:14,090 --> 02:35:15,260 We are. 2627 02:35:15,340 --> 02:35:16,920 Are you sure? Well. 2628 02:35:17,010 --> 02:35:18,220 Good, excellent. 2629 02:35:26,930 --> 02:35:28,230 It's okay, just come in. 2630 02:35:28,310 --> 02:35:30,200 - Hello. - There she is. 2631 02:35:30,280 --> 02:35:31,800 We are being filmed right now. 2632 02:35:31,880 --> 02:35:34,190 - Oh, they're filming us. - I'm not going to say anything. 2633 02:35:34,270 --> 02:35:35,700 Oh yes, that's right. I forgot. 2634 02:35:35,780 --> 02:35:37,400 - Except hello. - Yes, that's right. 2635 02:35:37,490 --> 02:35:42,170 When I was 16, I had a friend older and was flipping through his albums. 2636 02:35:43,450 --> 02:35:47,750 and I found this beautiful face. 2637 02:35:47,830 --> 02:35:49,910 And I felt chills on the back of my neck. 2638 02:35:50,000 --> 02:35:52,710 And I said, "Look at this guy!" 2639 02:35:52,790 --> 02:35:55,210 And she said: "You don't know Paul Simon? 2640 02:35:55,300 --> 02:35:56,880 You'll love their music too." 2641 02:35:59,510 --> 02:36:03,220 Ladies and gentlemen, Edie Brickell and the new bohemians. 2642 02:36:03,300 --> 02:36:04,890 When you were in Saturday Night Live 2643 02:36:04,970 --> 02:36:07,430 for the first time, Did you have that same vibe? 2644 02:36:07,520 --> 02:36:09,480 Yes. I was surprised. 2645 02:36:09,560 --> 02:36:12,440 Everything was prepared because 2646 02:36:12,520 --> 02:36:14,900 we had been there for two years playing that song. 2647 02:36:14,980 --> 02:36:17,150 of too many things 2648 02:36:17,230 --> 02:36:18,490 2649 02:36:18,570 --> 02:36:20,110 2650 02:36:20,200 --> 02:36:22,990 They said, "Just keep going." the red dots of the camera. 2651 02:36:23,070 --> 02:36:25,580 When you see it light up the red light, look at that camera." 2652 02:36:25,670 --> 02:36:28,330 2653 02:36:28,410 --> 02:36:30,580 a box of cereal? 2654 02:36:30,660 --> 02:36:33,260 And I'm doing all this, 2655 02:36:33,340 --> 02:36:35,080 feeling pretty sure, getting over it. 2656 02:36:35,170 --> 02:36:38,630 And then I look at the light red central chamber 2657 02:36:38,710 --> 02:36:41,630 and there is paul simon standing right next to it. 2658 02:36:41,720 --> 02:36:45,180 And everyone else is sunk in the shadows. 2659 02:36:45,260 --> 02:36:47,930 And he stands out like a hologram. 2660 02:36:48,010 --> 02:36:52,480 It was like waking up from one dream to another dream. 2661 02:36:52,560 --> 02:36:56,650 I didn't want to distract her, nor I thought for a moment 2662 02:36:56,730 --> 02:37:00,280 that she would be me paying attention at all. 2663 02:37:00,360 --> 02:37:01,950 2664 02:37:02,030 --> 02:37:04,990 I lost it. I forgot the song. 2665 02:37:05,070 --> 02:37:08,370 So at the end of the song, I repeat myself. 2666 02:37:08,450 --> 02:37:11,000 2667 02:37:11,080 --> 02:37:17,000 what I am is what I am 2668 02:37:17,090 --> 02:37:19,170 And you can see me turn and say, "Oh, God... 2669 02:37:19,250 --> 02:37:21,130 "I'm sorry, I'm sorry," to the band. 2670 02:37:23,050 --> 02:37:24,654 When I came down from stage, he presented himself. 2671 02:37:24,734 --> 02:37:27,647 And even then, Lorne silenced because it had started 2672 02:37:27,727 --> 02:37:30,640 the "End of Update" week" and we were there talking. 2673 02:37:30,720 --> 02:37:32,689 And now, update weekend 2674 02:37:32,769 --> 02:37:34,480 with the presenter Dennis Miller. 2675 02:37:34,560 --> 02:37:37,980 Then Paul said, We'll talk at the after party. 2676 02:37:38,060 --> 02:37:40,820 I don't know who asked first: "How old are you?" 2677 02:37:40,900 --> 02:37:44,570 We were both shocked for the answers, you know? 2678 02:37:44,650 --> 02:37:46,820 It was like a moment in which we think, 2679 02:37:46,910 --> 02:37:50,660 "Well, there's a good idea." 2680 02:37:50,740 --> 02:37:52,830 But then he said: "I'm going back to New York 2681 02:37:52,910 --> 02:37:55,040 in a few weeks to play in a club. 2682 02:37:55,120 --> 02:37:56,920 And I said, "Oh, there I'll go." 2683 02:37:57,000 --> 02:37:58,170 She said, "Oh, great." 2684 02:37:58,250 --> 02:38:00,340 So I did it. 2685 02:38:00,420 --> 02:38:03,090 Then I went to visit her in Dallas. 2686 02:38:03,170 --> 02:38:04,880 I got off the plane. 2687 02:38:04,970 --> 02:38:10,220 There she was in this 1972 yellow truck. 2688 02:38:10,310 --> 02:38:13,060 I guess that was ours. first, you know, big date. 2689 02:38:13,140 --> 02:38:14,730 We get along well. 2690 02:38:14,810 --> 02:38:17,600 There was a... a sweet attraction. 2691 02:38:17,690 --> 02:38:19,020 Here you go. 2692 02:38:19,110 --> 02:38:22,400 2693 02:38:24,610 --> 02:38:26,700 Hey, but, uh... 2694 02:38:26,780 --> 02:38:29,200 time continued changing on this. 2695 02:38:29,280 --> 02:38:32,370 Therefore, I want to make sure to visit the right place. 2696 02:38:32,450 --> 02:38:34,160 And we will give you three or four takes. 2697 02:38:35,870 --> 02:38:38,710 I've never met anyone like Edie. 2698 02:38:38,790 --> 02:38:44,050 She is very interested in the mystery, the great mystery of life. 2699 02:38:46,010 --> 02:38:49,550 You will never be able to solve the mystery, and that's the good thing about it. 2700 02:38:49,640 --> 02:38:51,050 You don't want to solve it. 2701 02:38:51,140 --> 02:38:53,890 But you try to connect to it. 2702 02:38:53,970 --> 02:38:58,100 And I follow what she thinks and I follow his instincts. 2703 02:39:00,150 --> 02:39:03,780 Paul inspires you to feel and think something for yourself. 2704 02:39:04,860 --> 02:39:09,240 He opens his palms and says: "What are we going to do?" 2705 02:39:09,320 --> 02:39:12,410 2706 02:39:15,410 --> 02:39:21,960 blotted out the sunny skies 2707 02:39:22,040 --> 02:39:28,510 hitchhikers beckoned to us 2708 02:39:28,590 --> 02:39:34,350 2709 02:39:34,430 --> 02:39:40,140 2710 02:39:40,230 --> 02:39:42,190 2711 02:39:42,270 --> 02:39:47,280 2712 02:39:47,360 --> 02:39:53,950 2713 02:39:54,030 --> 02:39:59,370 2714 02:39:59,460 --> 02:40:02,330 2715 02:40:02,420 --> 02:40:06,710 2716 02:40:06,800 --> 02:40:11,720 2717 02:40:14,600 --> 02:40:20,350 in fog with a little luck 2718 02:40:20,440 --> 02:40:26,570 a place to stay 2719 02:40:29,570 --> 02:40:32,030 2720 02:40:32,110 --> 02:40:38,660 of regional perfumes 2721 02:40:38,750 --> 02:40:42,870 2722 02:40:42,960 --> 02:40:46,090 stars provide us 2723 02:40:46,170 --> 02:40:50,670 2724 02:40:50,760 --> 02:40:55,760 2725 02:40:55,850 --> 02:40:58,560 2726 02:40:58,640 --> 02:41:03,730 2727 02:41:03,810 --> 02:41:08,110 different there is 2728 02:41:08,190 --> 02:41:12,070 2729 02:41:15,620 --> 02:41:20,040 2730 02:41:22,500 --> 02:41:29,420 in your head 2731 02:41:29,500 --> 02:41:34,880 looked down at the ground 2732 02:41:34,970 --> 02:41:39,640 2733 02:41:39,720 --> 02:41:43,390 2734 02:41:47,850 --> 02:41:51,570 2735 02:41:51,650 --> 02:41:58,410 make your songs of praise 2736 02:41:58,490 --> 02:42:03,580 those ropes 2737 02:42:03,660 --> 02:42:10,460 2738 02:42:22,180 --> 02:42:24,430 There's something... there's something that... 2739 02:42:24,520 --> 02:42:26,520 There is something... 2740 02:42:26,600 --> 02:42:29,600 There is something unsatisfying about that. 2741 02:42:29,690 --> 02:42:32,150 In the idea, not in the execution. 2742 02:42:33,730 --> 02:42:35,820 Oh... 2743 02:42:35,900 --> 02:42:38,990 Let's play it again and 2744 02:42:39,070 --> 02:42:41,450 Let's see if we can follow the... 2745 02:42:41,530 --> 02:42:46,160 the... the fall of the... of the guitar... the guitar. 2746 02:42:46,250 --> 02:42:49,040 Yes, I don't want that is too clean. 2747 02:43:00,390 --> 02:43:01,970 It's lovely. 2748 02:43:06,560 --> 02:43:08,480 I'm sorry. 2749 02:43:08,560 --> 02:43:11,690 Hi Jeff. I'm leaving the stage. 2750 02:43:12,820 --> 02:43:17,150 Last night I had the worst cough that I have had until now. 2751 02:43:17,240 --> 02:43:20,070 Really, I want say, that thing, 2752 02:43:20,160 --> 02:43:21,990 literally, I made him fall to his knees. 2753 02:43:22,070 --> 02:43:24,700 I just... I just... 2754 02:43:24,790 --> 02:43:26,200 It was incredible. 2755 02:43:26,290 --> 02:43:28,410 But I feel great in the day, but God, 2756 02:43:28,500 --> 02:43:30,210 I'm afraid of the nights. 2757 02:43:32,630 --> 02:43:35,500 Yes, I will call you... yes. 2758 02:43:35,590 --> 02:43:38,220 Well I will do it. 2759 02:43:38,300 --> 02:43:40,510 They are backwards. 2760 02:43:40,590 --> 02:43:42,010 That's ok. 2761 02:43:48,180 --> 02:43:50,940 Wait, wait, yes. 2762 02:44:03,160 --> 02:44:07,370 Let's do this other part, simply Let's start with the word "home." 2763 02:45:06,680 --> 02:45:09,600 This album is going to be very special. 2764 02:45:09,680 --> 02:45:11,930 Well I almost cried for a minute up there. 2765 02:45:12,020 --> 02:45:13,270 I can understand. 2766 02:45:13,350 --> 02:45:15,100 At one o'clock, I almost made me cry now. 2767 02:45:15,190 --> 02:45:17,360 It's beautiful, Paul. 2768 02:45:17,440 --> 02:45:20,110 2769 02:45:20,190 --> 02:45:25,700 2770 02:45:25,780 --> 02:45:32,120 You know, this reminds me... 2771 02:45:32,200 --> 02:45:37,960 how I felt for... moments in 2772 02:45:38,040 --> 02:45:40,460 South Africa when I said, it actually works. 2773 02:45:56,560 --> 02:45:58,653 After it came out "Hearts And Bones", 2774 02:45:58,733 --> 02:46:02,320 and that was not a successful album, I remember reading somewhere 2775 02:46:02,400 --> 02:46:06,360 where they said, "That's probably the end of Paul Simon's career. 2776 02:46:06,450 --> 02:46:09,330 You will never have again Paul Simon News". 2777 02:46:09,410 --> 02:46:12,540 2778 02:46:12,620 --> 02:46:15,370 2779 02:46:15,460 --> 02:46:18,681 There is a quote from Yeats What I sometimes use is: 2780 02:46:18,761 --> 02:46:22,550 "The disgusting store rags and bones of the heart". 2781 02:46:22,630 --> 02:46:25,670 As an artist, always you come back to that... 2782 02:46:25,760 --> 02:46:29,720 to your heart and what you believe and what you want to create. 2783 02:46:29,800 --> 02:46:32,720 And that's what he did. 2784 02:46:32,810 --> 02:46:36,230 They were hard years what you are going through, 2785 02:46:36,310 --> 02:46:38,190 "Who am I?" 2786 02:46:38,270 --> 02:46:40,690 And I think he figured it out, you know? 2787 02:46:40,770 --> 02:46:44,960 And then comes Graceland. 2788 02:46:46,450 --> 02:46:47,610 Sing. 2789 02:46:47,700 --> 02:46:51,910 2790 02:46:51,990 --> 02:46:55,750 on a midnight lake 2791 02:46:55,830 --> 02:46:57,290 2792 02:46:57,370 --> 02:47:02,040 Nobody was paying attention to me, which It was good because until that moment, 2793 02:47:02,130 --> 02:47:04,340 there was always someone looking over 2794 02:47:04,420 --> 02:47:06,630 from my shoulder to see what the hit was. 2795 02:47:06,720 --> 02:47:09,430 So not really I cared that they left me 2796 02:47:09,510 --> 02:47:12,050 in peace because I want go and follow the music. 2797 02:47:19,730 --> 02:47:21,610 It was around that time when I was building 2798 02:47:21,690 --> 02:47:25,480 a house in Montauk, Long Island. 2799 02:47:25,570 --> 02:47:29,990 And while I was driving, I heard this tape that a friend had given me. 2800 02:47:31,070 --> 02:47:33,280 And after a couple of weeks driving 2801 02:47:33,370 --> 02:47:35,280 to and from home and listening to the tape, 2802 02:47:35,360 --> 02:47:38,930 I think, what is this tape? This is my favorite tape. 2803 02:47:39,420 --> 02:47:42,545 It had no label or no information, 2804 02:47:42,625 --> 02:47:45,250 It just said: "Accordion Jive Hits Volume II". 2805 02:47:45,340 --> 02:47:49,430 And that led me to ask the people of Warner Bros. to track them down for me. 2806 02:47:49,510 --> 02:47:52,340 They tracked him to South Africa. 2807 02:47:52,430 --> 02:47:56,370 I started listening to different South African music styles. 2808 02:47:57,560 --> 02:47:59,631 I chose three groups that I liked them a lot 2809 02:47:59,711 --> 02:48:02,270 and I asked them if it was possible to record with them. 2810 02:48:02,350 --> 02:48:04,480 You're not using this, are you? 2811 02:48:06,690 --> 02:48:10,320 And at the beginning of 1985 I I proposed starting with this. 2812 02:48:16,370 --> 02:48:18,700 When I entered, I didn't would have surprised 2813 02:48:18,790 --> 02:48:20,830 that the idea simply It won't work. 2814 02:48:25,040 --> 02:48:28,300 It took me one or two days until finally 2815 02:48:28,380 --> 02:48:30,800 I was able to meet him best of musicians. 2816 02:48:30,880 --> 02:48:35,100 Over there, musicians really talented, and boom. 2817 02:48:38,270 --> 02:48:41,310 There was an excellent guitarist. 2818 02:48:41,390 --> 02:48:44,230 He started playing some kind 2819 02:48:44,310 --> 02:48:46,320 of strumming that was very nice. 2820 02:48:46,400 --> 02:48:47,720 And I said, I really like that. 2821 02:48:47,800 --> 02:48:49,820 And he said, "Well, just I'm trying to imitate 2822 02:48:49,900 --> 02:48:51,990 the way people of the field strums". 2823 02:49:19,600 --> 02:49:24,060 So, we continue exchanging information 2824 02:49:24,140 --> 02:49:26,900 from Sun Records with South African music. 2825 02:49:46,330 --> 02:49:50,420 And it continued to merge with these songs. 2826 02:50:00,970 --> 02:50:03,182 I was working with Roy Halee, 2827 02:50:03,262 --> 02:50:06,600 the engineer who made all Simon and Garfunkel. 2828 02:50:06,690 --> 02:50:08,940 And you know, it was a close friend. 2829 02:50:09,020 --> 02:50:13,110 And the musicians... their attitude to At first it was something like, 2830 02:50:13,190 --> 02:50:17,170 This white guy wants to pay us triple, you know, yeah, sure, sure. 2831 02:50:18,160 --> 02:50:20,946 But then they came in to the control room, 2832 02:50:21,026 --> 02:50:23,330 They listened to him and They were like, oh, wow. 2833 02:50:31,750 --> 02:50:35,330 Then they start to like: "Let me make an overdub of that. 2834 02:50:35,420 --> 02:50:37,290 Let me fix that," you know. 2835 02:50:38,840 --> 02:50:44,520 Everyone was excited, and me too, because that's how it sounded, 2836 02:50:44,600 --> 02:50:48,440 not in my imagination, but in the speakers. 2837 02:50:48,520 --> 02:50:52,490 The whole idea of โ€‹โ€‹mixing the cultures, musical cultures. 2838 02:50:54,570 --> 02:51:01,120 It was a concept of getting good rhythms and go back and then rewrite them. 2839 02:51:01,200 --> 02:51:02,870 There was really nothing written. 2840 02:51:02,950 --> 02:51:06,374 All Paul's albums, everything what I did with Paul or with someone, 2841 02:51:06,454 --> 02:51:07,810 They were written songs. 2842 02:51:08,370 --> 02:51:11,361 Being able to enter the studio with a guy like Paul and he says: 2843 02:51:11,441 --> 02:51:13,610 "Hey, I have something cool so that everyone can hear me. 2844 02:51:13,900 --> 02:51:16,210 Wait until you hear this," and I put "Mrs. Robinson", 2845 02:51:16,300 --> 02:51:17,420 I mean, there it is. 2846 02:51:17,500 --> 02:51:20,440 Here we enter and there is a idea, you know, a concept. 2847 02:51:22,810 --> 02:51:27,020 That album was recorded in five different studies around the world... 2848 02:51:27,100 --> 02:51:31,216 one in South Africa, Hit Factory in New York, 2849 02:51:31,296 --> 02:51:33,900 CBS Studios in Los Angeles. 2850 02:51:38,740 --> 02:51:44,580 A small studio in Crowley, Louisiana, where I recorded zydeco. 2851 02:51:44,660 --> 02:51:47,067 Abbey Road Studio in London, 2852 02:51:47,147 --> 02:51:50,370 and there we recorded Ladysmith Black Mambazo. 2853 02:51:50,460 --> 02:51:52,920 2854 02:51:53,000 --> 02:51:55,550 hello, hello, hello 2855 02:51:55,630 --> 02:51:57,887 Roy made everything that sound will sound 2856 02:51:57,967 --> 02:52:01,340 as if it were one piece to give it coherence. 2857 02:52:01,430 --> 02:52:03,180 to all these different sounds 2858 02:52:03,260 --> 02:52:06,060 Musicians and locations. 2859 02:52:07,930 --> 02:52:09,770 That's it, just like... 2860 02:52:09,850 --> 02:52:13,020 Yeah, great, then let's go to "The Boy in the Bubble." 2861 02:52:13,110 --> 02:52:16,530 I just want to show what is happening. 2862 02:52:16,610 --> 02:52:20,530 Let's just touch it who was from South Africa with nothing. 2863 02:52:33,670 --> 02:52:36,130 The bass part is definitely African. 2864 02:52:43,680 --> 02:52:46,100 They said... ese era its fretless bass. 2865 02:52:46,180 --> 02:52:49,060 That instrument It's so distinctive. 2866 02:52:49,140 --> 02:52:50,600 It's so powerful. 2867 02:52:55,020 --> 02:52:57,110 It's a great bass part. 2868 02:53:06,030 --> 02:53:11,160 And if we only listen the accordion alone... 2869 02:53:13,540 --> 02:53:17,630 That accordion sound, there is a Synclavier, 2870 02:53:17,710 --> 02:53:21,510 a synthesizer keyboard below. 2871 02:53:21,590 --> 02:53:22,970 Carry it out. 2872 02:53:28,430 --> 02:53:30,850 That's what makes the thing seems so big. 2873 02:53:35,520 --> 02:53:38,980 For the most part, no one really knew 2874 02:53:39,060 --> 02:53:41,820 what African music sounded like. 2875 02:53:41,900 --> 02:53:45,110 And this was the first disc track. 2876 02:53:45,200 --> 02:53:47,150 We were really saying 2877 02:53:47,330 --> 02:53:50,660 that this is big, from another place. 2878 02:54:09,050 --> 02:54:12,020 En "I Know What I Know", I was trying to invent 2879 02:54:12,100 --> 02:54:14,560 words that sounded something similar to what women 2880 02:54:14,640 --> 02:54:16,480 cantaban en Shangaan. 2881 02:54:27,740 --> 02:54:29,740 2882 02:54:29,830 --> 02:54:32,928 back of my head 2883 02:54:33,008 --> 02:54:34,160 2884 02:54:34,250 --> 02:54:35,500 2885 02:54:35,580 --> 02:54:37,750 2886 02:54:37,830 --> 02:54:41,250 the back of my head 2887 02:54:50,430 --> 02:54:53,732 For the song "Graceland", I started with a drum track. 2888 02:54:53,812 --> 02:54:56,730 that belongs to another song completely different. 2889 02:54:56,810 --> 02:55:00,360 I wasn't interested in the accordion, but I liked the drum track. 2890 02:55:01,440 --> 02:55:03,900 because it sounded like Sun Records. 2891 02:55:14,450 --> 02:55:16,910 Top hat doing that. 2892 02:56:01,920 --> 02:56:04,960 When I brought her home and I was trying to write it, 2893 02:56:05,050 --> 02:56:08,470 I would sing these lines about Graceland, Graceland. 2894 02:56:08,550 --> 02:56:12,930 And I would say, of course, that I I'll get rid of the "Graceland" part. 2895 02:56:13,010 --> 02:56:17,500 because, I mean, what does it have to do see Graceland with South Africa or something like that? 2896 02:56:18,880 --> 02:56:20,850 But then I couldn't replace it with nothing. 2897 02:56:20,940 --> 02:56:22,440 He was always singing that. 2898 02:56:22,520 --> 02:56:23,910 And finally I said, I don't know. 2899 02:56:24,000 --> 02:56:25,940 Maybe it's supposed to I must go to Graceland. 2900 02:56:26,020 --> 02:56:26,973 I have never been. 2901 02:56:27,053 --> 02:56:30,190 Maybe I'm supposed to leave trip and see what I'm writing about. 2902 02:56:30,270 --> 02:56:31,780 So I did it. 2903 02:56:33,870 --> 02:56:36,370 Mississippi brillaba 2904 02:56:36,450 --> 02:56:39,000 2905 02:56:39,080 --> 02:56:41,710 The song started to write itself. 2906 02:56:41,790 --> 02:56:44,710 river along the road 2907 02:56:44,790 --> 02:56:47,000 the Civil War 2908 02:56:49,420 --> 02:56:52,050 2909 02:56:52,130 --> 02:56:53,890 2910 02:56:53,970 --> 02:56:56,220 And finally turned into this trip 2911 02:56:56,300 --> 02:56:58,350 father and son for mend a broken heart. 2912 02:56:58,430 --> 02:57:01,180 pilgrims with families 2913 02:57:01,270 --> 02:57:03,350 2914 02:57:06,270 --> 02:57:10,070 trip is nine years old 2915 02:57:10,150 --> 02:57:13,660 first marriage 2916 02:57:13,740 --> 02:57:15,990 reasons to believe 2917 02:57:16,070 --> 02:57:20,200 received at Graceland 2918 02:57:20,290 --> 02:57:25,710 And Graceland became more a metaphor than in a real destination. 2919 02:57:25,790 --> 02:57:28,670 tell me he's gone 2920 02:57:30,670 --> 02:57:32,670 2921 02:57:32,760 --> 02:57:36,090 my own bed 2922 02:57:38,850 --> 02:57:41,060 realized 2923 02:57:41,140 --> 02:57:45,850 brushed hair from forehead 2924 02:57:45,940 --> 02:57:49,400 2925 02:57:49,480 --> 02:57:52,070 window in your heart 2926 02:57:53,780 --> 02:57:58,370 that you are destroyed 2927 02:57:58,450 --> 02:58:02,370 2928 02:58:02,450 --> 02:58:05,210 2929 02:58:05,290 --> 02:58:06,710 2930 02:58:06,790 --> 02:58:08,210 2931 02:58:10,840 --> 02:58:13,380 And the album of the year is... 2932 02:58:16,340 --> 02:58:17,930 Yes, what happened? 2933 02:58:18,010 --> 02:58:19,430 Graceland. 2934 02:58:19,510 --> 02:58:21,060 fellow traveler 2935 02:58:21,140 --> 02:58:23,100 and empty sockets 2936 02:58:23,180 --> 02:58:27,230 ghosts and emptiness 2937 02:58:27,310 --> 02:58:29,400 reasons to believe 2938 02:58:29,480 --> 02:58:32,110 received at Graceland 2939 02:58:32,190 --> 02:58:34,440 Graceland by Paul Simon is a great success, 2940 02:58:34,530 --> 02:58:37,070 with more than a million of copies sold. 2941 02:58:37,160 --> 02:58:40,830 But it is also controversial because Simon recorded the album in South Africa 2942 02:58:40,910 --> 02:58:42,410 with black musicians. 2943 02:58:42,490 --> 02:58:46,080 And critics say there shouldn't be had nothing to do with a racist country. 2944 02:58:46,160 --> 02:58:51,920 I hope to be able to express properly my deep 2945 02:58:52,000 --> 02:58:55,340 admiration and love for singers and musicians 2946 02:58:55,420 --> 02:58:58,930 from South Africa who worked with me at Graceland. 2947 02:59:05,270 --> 02:59:08,600 They live, together with others south african artists 2948 02:59:08,690 --> 02:59:14,420 and his compatriots, under one of the most repressive regimes on the planet today. 2949 02:59:15,900 --> 02:59:19,450 And yet, they are capable of producing 2950 02:59:20,530 --> 02:59:24,290 music of great power, nuances and joy. 2951 02:59:24,370 --> 02:59:26,500 and that seems to me simply extraordinary. 2952 02:59:26,580 --> 02:59:29,790 And they have my great respect and affection. 2953 02:59:29,880 --> 02:59:31,040 Thank you. 2954 02:59:32,790 --> 02:59:35,340 Even now, with all the success of the album, 2955 02:59:35,420 --> 02:59:37,800 how worried are you for the accusation? 2956 02:59:37,880 --> 02:59:41,640 who has violated the UN boycott, 2957 02:59:41,720 --> 02:59:46,850 Has it somehow gone against of the Anti-Apartheid Movement? 2958 02:59:49,060 --> 02:59:51,842 Well, I mean, I wouldn't like there to be 2959 02:59:51,922 --> 02:59:54,520 no misunderstanding about what I've done. 2960 02:59:54,610 --> 02:59:55,980 You know, let's be real. 2961 02:59:56,070 --> 02:59:58,530 The cultural boycott has as objective to cut 2962 02:59:58,610 --> 03:00:02,320 sustenance to the community South African white. 2963 03:00:02,410 --> 03:00:04,490 And they have never addressed the issue 2964 03:00:04,580 --> 03:00:08,610 what would happen if someone were to work with the artistic community 2965 03:00:09,790 --> 03:00:11,710 black because no one I had done that before. 2966 03:00:11,790 --> 03:00:14,505 However, you could be exposed 2967 03:00:14,585 --> 03:00:17,920 to the accusation of neighborhoods cultural marginalities. 2968 03:00:18,010 --> 03:00:21,155 Say it's a neighborhood poor is to understand 2969 03:00:21,235 --> 03:00:25,350 that we Americans We live in the upper area, 2970 03:00:25,430 --> 03:00:28,430 and all the others They are in the center. 2971 03:00:28,520 --> 03:00:31,250 Or we live in the center and everyone the others are in the upper area. 2972 03:00:31,340 --> 03:00:32,900 Whatever you want to call it. 2973 03:00:32,980 --> 03:00:35,190 Who is the poor neighborhood? 2974 03:00:35,270 --> 03:00:37,940 I mean, we are talking about music here. 2975 03:00:42,780 --> 03:00:44,870 Ladies and gentlemen, Hugh Masekela. 2976 03:00:48,700 --> 03:00:53,920 Queen of South African music, Mama Africa, Miriam Makeba. 2977 03:00:56,040 --> 03:00:58,050 I asked Hugh Masekela and Miriam 2978 03:00:58,130 --> 03:01:00,880 I made them join the tour. 2979 03:01:00,970 --> 03:01:05,550 Both Hugh and Miriam They were exiled from South Africa. 2980 03:01:05,640 --> 03:01:08,560 They were impressive figures. 2981 03:01:08,640 --> 03:01:10,770 You know, a man white of the United States, 2982 03:01:10,850 --> 03:01:12,600 I could never have defended 2983 03:01:12,690 --> 03:01:14,389 politically all the idea of โ€‹โ€‹Graceland. 2984 03:01:14,469 --> 03:01:16,224 I could defend it musically, 2985 03:01:16,304 --> 03:01:18,900 but I couldn't have defend it politically. 2986 03:01:18,980 --> 03:01:21,070 I simply they would have fired. 2987 03:01:21,150 --> 03:01:22,610 It just seems what could have 2988 03:01:22,700 --> 03:01:25,740 very strong repercussions be part of this tour. 2989 03:01:25,820 --> 03:01:27,740 But the strong repercussions from where? 2990 03:01:27,830 --> 03:01:29,410 From South Africa. 2991 03:01:29,490 --> 03:01:33,080 It's an individual choice as South Africans. 2992 03:01:33,160 --> 03:01:35,920 I'm going to sit and say, okay, 2993 03:01:36,000 --> 03:01:40,485 I want to be safe while my cousin, my son, my mother, 2994 03:01:40,565 --> 03:01:44,970 my grandmother and other people Do they shoot them every day? 2995 03:01:45,050 --> 03:01:48,680 Those who do not want participate in the tour 2996 03:01:48,760 --> 03:01:53,480 they have the possibility of say "No, I will not participate." 2997 03:01:53,560 --> 03:01:57,610 But until now, fortunately, Everyone has said they are going to do it. 2998 03:01:57,690 --> 03:02:01,430 because they know the seriousness of the problems we have at home. 2999 03:02:02,310 --> 03:02:04,860 She could silence anyone anywhere, Miriam. 3000 03:02:04,950 --> 03:02:07,030 He is not a person with the one you want to get involved with. 3001 03:02:07,120 --> 03:02:08,830 I would tell the truth... 3002 03:02:08,910 --> 03:02:13,200 And Hugh could give you a really precise and revealing vision. 3003 03:02:13,290 --> 03:02:17,330 People have ignored our situation for a long time, and they have only... 3004 03:02:18,420 --> 03:02:22,130 they have only seen it since a political point of view. 3005 03:02:22,210 --> 03:02:27,050 So it was great that someone could be so moved by our music 3006 03:02:27,140 --> 03:02:31,680 that despite all the opposition, He went and looked for the South Africans and said: 3007 03:02:31,770 --> 03:02:36,230 "I want to be with you and sing with you, like a human being, you know, 3008 03:02:36,310 --> 03:02:38,310 because your music moves me. " 3009 03:02:53,410 --> 03:02:57,830 The closest we could get from South Africa was Harare, Zimbabwe. 3010 03:02:57,920 --> 03:03:00,010 I'm not sure if someone really anticipated 3011 03:03:00,090 --> 03:03:02,026 that would become in what was, 3012 03:03:02,106 --> 03:03:04,880 that was a hearing completely integrated. 3013 03:03:06,970 --> 03:03:11,180 That would have been Illegal in South Africa. 3014 03:03:11,260 --> 03:03:15,416 Many South Africans crossed the border to see the concert, 3015 03:03:15,496 --> 03:03:17,520 and also many Zimbabweans. 3016 03:03:17,600 --> 03:03:20,520 So you had a great audience of whites and blacks together. 3017 03:03:20,610 --> 03:03:22,860 No problem, everyone has a good time. 3018 03:03:35,620 --> 03:03:39,870 Thanks to the tour of Graceland, we are here. 3019 03:03:39,960 --> 03:03:46,050 But I hope and wish that one day South Africans can invite Paul Simon. 3020 03:03:48,130 --> 03:03:52,430 To Johannesburg in a free South Africa! 3021 03:04:24,420 --> 03:04:26,090 3022 03:04:26,170 --> 03:04:27,960 3023 03:04:28,050 --> 03:04:31,260 on the side of the road 3024 03:04:31,340 --> 03:04:33,600 3025 03:04:33,680 --> 03:04:35,350 3026 03:04:35,430 --> 03:04:38,680 baby connected to the radio 3027 03:04:38,770 --> 03:04:42,440 of miracles and wonders 3028 03:04:42,520 --> 03:04:45,520 long distance 3029 03:04:45,610 --> 03:04:49,360 follows us in slow motion 3030 03:04:49,440 --> 03:04:52,780 we see everyone, oh yeah 3031 03:04:52,860 --> 03:04:55,620 a distant constellation 3032 03:04:55,700 --> 03:04:59,700 in a corner of the sky 3033 03:04:59,790 --> 03:05:02,670 of miracles and amazement 3034 03:05:02,750 --> 03:05:05,880 don't cry, don't cry 3035 03:05:46,630 --> 03:05:49,550 of miracles and amazement 3036 03:05:49,630 --> 03:05:52,720 long distance 3037 03:05:52,800 --> 03:05:56,890 Gave everyone a chance to prove his worth. 3038 03:05:56,970 --> 03:06:00,180 Believe in ourselves, believe in music and, at the same time, 3039 03:06:00,270 --> 03:06:04,190 be grateful to get it out and make it world famous. 3040 03:06:16,030 --> 03:06:17,870 3041 03:06:17,950 --> 03:06:20,450 long lost 3042 03:06:22,950 --> 03:06:25,120 3043 03:06:25,210 --> 03:06:28,420 call, you can call me Al 3044 03:06:29,960 --> 03:06:31,090 3045 03:07:00,240 --> 03:07:02,450 We finish the song and the people 3046 03:07:02,540 --> 03:07:05,290 continued encouraging and clapping, you know? 3047 03:07:07,540 --> 03:07:10,491 I kept waiting for go to the next song 3048 03:07:10,571 --> 03:07:14,010 and then Ray Phiri said: "They want you to do it again." 3049 03:07:14,090 --> 03:07:17,630 I said, "Yes, I know, but "We're going to do this." 3050 03:07:17,720 --> 03:07:20,350 And he said, no, you don't understand. 3051 03:07:20,430 --> 03:07:22,640 They want you to do it again. 3052 03:07:24,520 --> 03:07:27,190 And then we did it again. 3053 03:07:41,070 --> 03:07:42,260 3054 03:07:42,340 --> 03:07:44,490 Am I soft in the middle? 3055 03:07:44,580 --> 03:07:46,200 soft in the middle 3056 03:07:46,280 --> 03:07:47,960 life is very difficult 3057 03:07:48,040 --> 03:07:50,190 to take photographs 3058 03:07:50,270 --> 03:07:51,790 chance of redemption 3059 03:07:51,880 --> 03:07:53,590 in a cartoon 3060 03:07:53,680 --> 03:07:55,400 cartoon 3061 03:07:55,480 --> 03:07:56,880 3062 03:07:56,960 --> 03:07:58,800 3063 03:07:58,880 --> 03:08:01,640 well lit 3064 03:08:01,720 --> 03:08:03,850 3065 03:08:03,930 --> 03:08:05,680 strays from me 3066 03:08:05,770 --> 03:08:09,310 these fun things 3067 03:08:09,390 --> 03:08:11,020 3068 03:08:11,100 --> 03:08:14,570 long lost 3069 03:08:16,900 --> 03:08:18,150 3070 03:08:18,240 --> 03:08:20,680 3071 03:08:20,760 --> 03:08:22,988 and the show had the gold added 3072 03:08:23,068 --> 03:08:25,990 to have the best from Hugh's repertoire. 3073 03:08:56,940 --> 03:08:58,940 Incredible performance, and Miriam, 3074 03:08:59,030 --> 03:09:00,530 had a great international success. 3075 03:09:00,610 --> 03:09:02,230 with a song called "Pata Pata". 3076 03:09:03,820 --> 03:09:08,200 name of a dance that 3077 03:09:08,290 --> 03:09:11,040 way to johannesburg 3078 03:09:11,120 --> 03:09:15,420 3079 03:09:15,500 --> 03:09:18,880 Pata starts to ring 3080 03:09:30,140 --> 03:09:33,140 I didn't know what to say about being 3081 03:09:33,230 --> 03:09:38,400 the most exiled famous from South Africa. 3082 03:09:38,480 --> 03:09:41,280 I think when you are in exile, 3083 03:09:41,360 --> 03:09:46,320 you are in exile, whether you are famous or not. 3084 03:09:46,410 --> 03:09:49,790 Exile is painful. 3085 03:09:49,870 --> 03:09:53,330 all these years that they have tried 3086 03:09:53,410 --> 03:09:55,630 separate myself from the people at home, 3087 03:09:55,710 --> 03:09:58,590 There is nothing that can come between us. 3088 03:09:58,670 --> 03:10:02,562 I'm also happy that the people at home 3089 03:10:02,642 --> 03:10:06,430 have decided that they are not going to sit 3090 03:10:06,510 --> 03:10:09,930 and end apartheid with arms crossed. 3091 03:10:10,010 --> 03:10:13,600 And I thank my people. 3092 03:10:13,680 --> 03:10:18,770 We will get there and I'll go home. 3093 03:10:19,940 --> 03:10:24,030 3094 03:10:24,110 --> 03:10:27,030 3095 03:10:27,110 --> 03:10:33,290 my grandmother's door 3096 03:10:33,370 --> 03:10:37,330 3097 03:10:37,420 --> 03:10:40,960 3098 03:10:41,050 --> 03:10:44,300 through harmony 3099 03:10:44,380 --> 03:10:48,390 3100 03:10:48,470 --> 03:10:52,810 how do we start to remember 3101 03:10:55,140 --> 03:10:59,650 pulse of love in the vein 3102 03:11:01,900 --> 03:11:08,490 fall and scream your name 3103 03:11:08,570 --> 03:11:10,200 roots of rhythm 3104 03:11:10,280 --> 03:11:14,250 rhythm remain 3105 03:11:24,260 --> 03:11:28,760 3106 03:12:13,470 --> 03:12:14,930 Occurred. 3107 03:12:15,010 --> 03:12:18,060 This idea actually came up and When we played together, it was great. 3108 03:12:19,140 --> 03:12:21,440 And the people liked everywhere. 3109 03:12:21,520 --> 03:12:24,440 To the blacks and the whites, everyone liked it. 3110 03:12:24,520 --> 03:12:27,546 And I think that for all South Africans, 3111 03:12:27,626 --> 03:12:31,910 who had just lived in the darkness, it was fantastic. 3112 03:12:45,420 --> 03:12:47,510 3113 03:12:47,590 --> 03:12:51,180 soles of his shoes 3114 03:12:51,260 --> 03:12:55,600 lose that sadness of walking 3115 03:12:55,680 --> 03:12:58,970 soles of your shoes 3116 03:13:01,190 --> 03:13:03,190 physically forgotten 3117 03:13:03,270 --> 03:13:07,110 pocket with my car keys 3118 03:13:07,190 --> 03:13:11,280 sitting because I please you 3119 03:13:11,360 --> 03:13:17,120 3120 03:13:17,200 --> 03:13:23,790 ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh 3121 03:13:23,870 --> 03:13:27,380 know what I'm talking about 3122 03:13:27,460 --> 03:13:28,534 3123 03:13:28,614 --> 03:13:30,630 what am i talking about 3124 03:13:30,720 --> 03:13:32,630 The statement he made was: 3125 03:13:32,720 --> 03:13:34,800 listen how rich is this culture. 3126 03:13:34,890 --> 03:13:37,140 Look at these people. They are so cool. 3127 03:13:37,220 --> 03:13:41,180 Can you imagine them now under the boots of apartheid? 3128 03:13:41,270 --> 03:13:43,350 It became real. 3129 03:13:43,440 --> 03:13:45,440 They were real people. 3130 03:13:47,310 --> 03:13:50,057 I think that people became more passionate 3131 03:13:50,137 --> 03:13:54,320 in his indignation against the South African regime. 3132 03:13:54,410 --> 03:13:57,370 and in support of the South African culture. 3133 03:13:57,450 --> 03:14:02,040 3134 03:14:02,120 --> 03:14:04,080 3135 03:14:04,170 --> 03:14:06,380 3136 03:14:06,460 --> 03:14:08,170 3137 03:14:08,250 --> 03:14:10,210 3138 03:14:10,300 --> 03:14:12,090 3139 03:14:12,170 --> 03:14:14,090 3140 03:14:14,180 --> 03:14:16,090 3141 03:14:16,180 --> 03:14:18,550 3142 03:14:18,640 --> 03:14:20,620 Well, "Diamonds on the soles of their shoes. 3143 03:14:20,710 --> 03:14:23,890 It's really like a kind of township song. 3144 03:14:23,980 --> 03:14:26,020 3145 03:14:26,100 --> 03:14:28,440 But there was a connection between 3146 03:14:28,520 --> 03:14:31,530 west africans and South Africans. 3147 03:14:31,610 --> 03:14:34,740 The track goes from south african rhythm 3148 03:14:34,820 --> 03:14:37,410 to the rhythm of West Africa. 3149 03:14:48,040 --> 03:14:51,800 And that percussion from Africa western is really 3150 03:14:51,880 --> 03:14:55,220 which led me to "The Rhythm of the Saints". 3151 03:14:55,300 --> 03:14:57,090 I was just following the trail. 3152 03:15:35,880 --> 03:15:38,180 it all started when there was a club 3153 03:15:38,260 --> 03:15:41,510 in New York called SOB, Sounds of Brazil. 3154 03:15:41,600 --> 03:15:43,140 It still exists. 3155 03:15:43,220 --> 03:15:45,640 They used to be just Brazilian music. 3156 03:15:45,720 --> 03:15:47,500 And there I found myself with Eddie Palmieri. 3157 03:15:47,590 --> 03:15:48,940 He approached me and said: 3158 03:15:49,020 --> 03:15:51,190 "You know, what are you going to do now?" 3159 03:15:51,270 --> 03:15:53,422 You've done Graceland. What are you going to do?" 3160 03:15:53,502 --> 03:15:56,190 He said, well, you can't. make just one African album. 3161 03:15:56,280 --> 03:15:58,950 South Africa, that's where There are the great voices. 3162 03:15:59,030 --> 03:16:00,690 Now you have to go to West Africa, 3163 03:16:00,770 --> 03:16:03,020 where they are heard the big drums 3164 03:16:03,200 --> 03:16:06,330 and then follow the drums in the African diaspora. 3165 03:16:06,410 --> 03:16:10,120 And while I was, you know, thinking, this is what I'm going to do, 3166 03:16:10,210 --> 03:16:11,880 Quincy Jones called me and said: 3167 03:16:11,960 --> 03:16:13,670 "Do you know Milton Nascimento? 3168 03:16:13,750 --> 03:16:16,050 "He would like to record with you." 3169 03:16:16,130 --> 03:16:18,300 and I said, yes, I would love to. 3170 03:16:38,990 --> 03:16:41,740 So when it's all over, 3171 03:16:41,820 --> 03:16:44,030 I say, "You know what, If I go to Brazil, 3172 03:16:44,120 --> 03:16:46,580 would you introduce me to the drummers?" 3173 03:16:46,660 --> 03:16:49,710 And he said, "Yes, of course, I'll put you in contact with my producer. 3174 03:16:52,460 --> 03:16:57,050 We went to Brazil and I heard these drums in the street. 3175 03:16:59,130 --> 03:17:01,760 It's Olodum practicing. 3176 03:17:01,840 --> 03:17:04,010 I said, "Wow, that's great." 3177 03:17:04,090 --> 03:17:06,180 Why don't we record that? 3178 03:17:06,260 --> 03:17:09,050 We could just go to a patio and we will hang the microphones. 3179 03:17:09,130 --> 03:17:10,850 And you know, We'll let it go." 3180 03:17:10,940 --> 03:17:12,770 So we did it. 3181 03:17:26,120 --> 03:17:29,870 I probably had it for a year before hearing it again. 3182 03:17:29,950 --> 03:17:32,028 And then I started to break it down 3183 03:17:32,108 --> 03:17:36,380 what became the base de "The Obvious Child". 3184 03:18:02,030 --> 03:18:04,950 to a peaceful journey 3185 03:18:05,030 --> 03:18:07,160 who has lost his bite 3186 03:18:07,240 --> 03:18:10,450 treat like a fool 3187 03:18:10,540 --> 03:18:12,790 all night 3188 03:18:12,870 --> 03:18:15,620 a lie is just a lie 3189 03:18:15,710 --> 03:18:19,130 deny the obvious to the child 3190 03:18:19,210 --> 03:18:22,590 3191 03:18:22,670 --> 03:18:25,840 traffic signal 3192 03:18:25,930 --> 03:18:31,600 girl when she was young 3193 03:18:31,680 --> 03:18:33,850 songs are true 3194 03:18:33,930 --> 03:18:35,440 3195 03:18:35,520 --> 03:18:37,940 free and listen now 3196 03:18:38,020 --> 03:18:40,440 3197 03:18:40,520 --> 03:18:42,690 3198 03:18:45,780 --> 03:18:46,950 3199 03:18:47,030 --> 03:18:48,200 3200 03:18:50,870 --> 03:18:52,160 3201 03:18:52,240 --> 03:18:53,790 3202 03:18:56,120 --> 03:18:58,830 3203 03:18:58,920 --> 03:19:01,500 have bills to pay 3204 03:19:01,590 --> 03:19:06,130 day by day, day by day 3205 03:19:41,090 --> 03:19:44,023 You will see that in many of these sessions 3206 03:19:44,103 --> 03:19:47,840 It's something like saying: "Wow, that's great." 3207 03:19:47,930 --> 03:19:49,860 Where does that come from?" "Oh, from there." 3208 03:19:49,940 --> 03:19:51,510 "Oh, you can't record there." 3209 03:19:51,600 --> 03:19:55,020 People would say, "No, that would be very difficult. 3210 03:19:55,100 --> 03:19:57,390 I would say, okay, so it is very difficult. 3211 03:19:57,480 --> 03:19:59,060 Here we go. 3212 03:19:59,140 --> 03:20:01,020 let's do something very difficult now. 3213 03:20:01,110 --> 03:20:02,190 It is possible. 3214 03:20:04,780 --> 03:20:08,400 The worst that happens is that we don't understand it. 3215 03:20:08,490 --> 03:20:10,860 But you never know what you will find on the way. 3216 03:20:13,780 --> 03:20:18,120 3217 03:20:18,210 --> 03:20:21,710 3218 03:20:21,790 --> 03:20:26,880 3219 03:20:26,960 --> 03:20:32,090 I feel safe 3220 03:20:32,180 --> 03:20:34,560 barking at dawn 3221 03:20:34,640 --> 03:20:37,560 the edges of a storm 3222 03:20:40,980 --> 03:20:43,060 3223 03:20:43,150 --> 03:20:45,570 a sleeping army 3224 03:20:45,650 --> 03:20:49,320 3225 03:20:49,400 --> 03:20:54,280 3226 03:20:54,370 --> 03:20:57,240 restless mother 3227 03:20:57,330 --> 03:21:00,250 3228 03:21:00,330 --> 03:21:02,750 3229 03:21:02,830 --> 03:21:07,130 to break and run 3230 03:21:07,210 --> 03:21:10,420 I'm already used to them 3231 03:21:10,510 --> 03:21:11,890 3232 03:21:11,980 --> 03:21:13,260 3233 03:21:13,340 --> 03:21:15,510 quiet and disappear 3234 03:21:17,930 --> 03:21:22,440 3235 03:21:22,520 --> 03:21:26,440 the tears 3236 03:21:26,520 --> 03:21:32,150 3237 03:21:32,240 --> 03:21:36,990 to tears, oh 3238 03:21:48,460 --> 03:21:50,340 Every record he made, everything he did, 3239 03:21:50,420 --> 03:21:52,630 it was always a challenge different for him. 3240 03:21:52,720 --> 03:21:57,010 with the same understanding... family love, 3241 03:21:58,390 --> 03:22:00,640 loss, rebirth, 3242 03:22:01,430 --> 03:22:04,020 struggle, ambiguity, 3243 03:22:04,940 --> 03:22:08,070 and a contagious and happy rhythm. 3244 03:22:08,150 --> 03:22:10,530 And the story that you will lead you to realize 3245 03:22:10,610 --> 03:22:13,200 about people from different traditions, 3246 03:22:13,280 --> 03:22:14,910 and not the reduction of the feeling 3247 03:22:14,990 --> 03:22:17,030 but the expansion of the feeling 3248 03:22:17,120 --> 03:22:20,160 and, ultimately, the integration of life and death. 3249 03:22:21,910 --> 03:22:24,410 Thank you very much, very much. 3250 03:22:26,460 --> 03:22:28,340 May you have one sweet and calm night. 3251 03:22:28,420 --> 03:22:29,630 Good night. 3252 03:22:32,340 --> 03:22:35,510 I have a little... You know I love you, boy. 3253 03:22:35,590 --> 03:22:38,010 - Know? Shit. - I know I love you too, man. 3254 03:22:38,100 --> 03:22:40,010 Curse. 3255 03:22:40,100 --> 03:22:41,680 Thank you for... thank you... 3256 03:22:41,770 --> 03:22:44,180 Thanks man. Come on, you know? 3257 03:22:44,270 --> 03:22:46,151 You never thank me. It's a blessing for me. 3258 03:22:46,231 --> 03:22:48,020 You can say thank you, you know? 3259 03:22:48,110 --> 03:22:49,190 Not for me. 3260 03:22:56,490 --> 03:23:00,080 I didn't have a letter the last song, 3261 03:23:00,160 --> 03:23:02,700 but I touched everything the piece to Wynton. 3262 03:23:02,790 --> 03:23:05,017 And when we got to it, I said: 3263 03:23:05,097 --> 03:23:08,080 "That's the end of the piece," you know. 3264 03:23:08,170 --> 03:23:10,710 And he said, "Wow." Said: "I'll tell you what I feel. 3265 03:23:10,790 --> 03:23:12,960 When we get to it, 3266 03:23:13,050 --> 03:23:15,720 I feel that I really "I don't want to die." 3267 03:23:18,180 --> 03:23:21,430 And that's what me hizo "whoa". 3268 03:23:21,510 --> 03:23:25,930 3269 03:23:27,890 --> 03:23:31,150 3270 03:23:31,230 --> 03:23:34,150 3271 03:23:36,490 --> 03:23:43,160 3272 03:23:43,240 --> 03:23:46,910 3273 03:23:47,000 --> 03:23:51,670 3274 03:23:53,500 --> 03:23:58,430 of ghosts that I have 3275 03:24:00,390 --> 03:24:06,480 3276 03:24:06,560 --> 03:24:12,980 heartbroken microphone 3277 03:24:15,030 --> 03:24:21,320 3278 03:24:24,370 --> 03:24:27,290 3279 03:24:27,370 --> 03:24:30,620 3280 03:24:30,710 --> 03:24:34,630 3281 03:24:34,710 --> 03:24:38,380 3282 03:24:38,470 --> 03:24:42,220 3283 03:24:42,300 --> 03:24:47,180 3284 03:24:47,270 --> 03:24:52,690 The music comes out of you from where you don't know. 3285 03:24:52,770 --> 03:24:56,730 3286 03:24:56,820 --> 03:25:00,860 3287 03:25:00,950 --> 03:25:04,660 3288 03:25:04,740 --> 03:25:08,160 Speak this language where It doesn't have to be precise. 3289 03:25:08,250 --> 03:25:11,920 3290 03:25:12,000 --> 03:25:16,090 3291 03:25:16,170 --> 03:25:19,760 Say something in which You don't have to think, is that right? 3292 03:25:21,840 --> 03:25:26,060 3293 03:25:28,140 --> 03:25:31,301 If that was my criterion and everything had to be like this, 3294 03:25:31,381 --> 03:25:33,609 it had to be true what I said, 3295 03:25:33,689 --> 03:25:36,690 could also be given by defeated from the beginning. 3296 03:25:36,770 --> 03:25:42,450 3297 03:25:42,530 --> 03:25:44,200 3298 03:25:44,280 --> 03:25:46,410 It can't be done. 3299 03:25:51,200 --> 03:25:54,120 3300 03:25:54,210 --> 03:25:58,040 3301 03:25:58,130 --> 03:26:01,210 3302 03:26:01,300 --> 03:26:05,550 3303 03:26:05,640 --> 03:26:09,390 3304 03:26:09,470 --> 03:26:14,390 3305 03:26:14,480 --> 03:26:18,996 What I've tried to learn, after all these years, 3306 03:26:19,076 --> 03:26:22,280 is that when you find something that produces 3307 03:26:22,360 --> 03:26:27,120 a feeling of peace or joy, try to spread it. 3308 03:26:27,200 --> 03:26:28,990 Try to hold on to it. 3309 03:26:29,080 --> 03:26:36,080 3310 03:26:38,000 --> 03:26:39,090 It's like bliss. 3311 03:26:39,170 --> 03:26:41,130 It's as if there were no more. 3312 03:26:41,210 --> 03:26:42,760 It's a mystery. 3313 03:26:42,840 --> 03:26:45,300 It's a great mystery. 3314 03:27:01,860 --> 03:27:06,320 my old friend 3315 03:27:06,400 --> 03:27:09,200 with you again 3316 03:27:11,870 --> 03:27:16,120 drag gently 3317 03:27:19,710 --> 03:27:21,670 I have to be careful with that frequency. 3318 03:27:27,470 --> 03:27:31,720 while I was sleeping 3319 03:27:35,810 --> 03:27:38,480 3320 03:27:38,560 --> 03:27:42,320 in my brain 3321 03:27:42,400 --> 03:27:43,690 The guitar needs to go up. 3322 03:27:43,780 --> 03:27:47,820 3323 03:27:47,900 --> 03:27:54,540 sound of silence 3324 03:27:54,620 --> 03:27:59,040 I walked alone 3325 03:28:00,130 --> 03:28:04,510 of cobblestones 3326 03:28:05,590 --> 03:28:09,340 of a streetlight 3327 03:28:10,430 --> 03:28:15,350 the cold and humidity 3328 03:28:16,430 --> 03:28:19,200 3329 03:28:19,690 --> 03:28:23,570 of a neon light 3330 03:28:24,650 --> 03:28:27,860 3331 03:28:28,950 --> 03:28:33,540 of silence 3332 03:28:35,620 --> 03:28:38,960 3333 03:28:40,040 --> 03:28:44,880 3334 03:28:45,960 --> 03:28:51,550 3335 03:28:52,640 --> 03:28:56,340 they hear without listening 3336 03:28:57,720 --> 03:29:00,900 3337 03:29:01,980 --> 03:29:05,570 3338 03:29:06,650 --> 03:29:09,570 3339 03:29:10,650 --> 03:29:12,710 3340 03:29:13,990 --> 03:29:15,990 3341 03:29:18,330 --> 03:29:19,750 Yes I'm fine. 3342 03:29:24,500 --> 03:29:26,130 ยกVaya! 235120

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