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[reporter 1] He's a railroad
riding drifter
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accused of being
a notorious serial killer.
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[Alicia]
In the summer of 1999,
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the FBI launched
a nationwide manhunt
for Angel Resendiz-Ramirez.
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[reporter 2] It's one of
the largest manhunts
in the United States.
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He was known as
the "Railroad Killer."
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He was a ghost,
riding the rails.
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[Chief Kennedy] He murdered
somebody that I loved.
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It's hard to understand why.
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[Curless] A lot of people
were on edge,
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especially around
railroad tracks.
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I keep the doors locked
and keep a pistol by my bed.
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[Greg] Only one person
survived
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the Railroad Killer's
brutal attack.
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And she helped authorities
put an end
to his killing spree.
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[train honking]
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[theme music playing]
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My name is Holly Dunn,
and I am from
Evansville, Indiana.
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We grew up on 13 acres.
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I mean, so much room
to play and have fun.
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I thought it was
an amazing place to grow up.
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My parents were super fun
and they loved each other,
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which was amazing
to see as a child.
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They gave us a great example
for what we wanted
in our lives.
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I had a half-brother
that passed away
in a car accident.
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And we all needed
to learn how to heal
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and learn how
to deal with that.
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But, my sister and I
always were so close.
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She was only 19 months
older than me.
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I always felt
very loved and safe.
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I had lived a carefree life,
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until I went to college.
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[Alicia] In 1995,
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18-year-old Holly Dunn
is excited to start
her freshman year
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at University
of Kentucky in Lexington.
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I loved Lexington.
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I felt safe and at home,
just that I belonged.
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And that's what
you want to feel
when you go to college.
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My sister was in a sorority.
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So, I decided
to go through recruitment,
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and I joined
Kappa Kappa Gamma.
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[Annie] I met Holly through
a mutual good friend of ours
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who was also in our sorority.
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She's just really funny.
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She's just one of those people
that just cracks everybody up
when she's in the room.
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[Holly] I'm kind of
the life of the party.
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I walk into a room
and I want you to notice me.
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I was feisty.
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After her sophomore year,
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Holly stays
in Lexington for the summer.
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And one night,
they're out celebrating
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her friend
Annie's 21st birthday.
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I was just looking forward
to my first legal drink.
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We walked in,
we kind of got a table
off to the side.
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There was a group of guys
there too.
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Holly went up to the guy group
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and just started talking
to all the guys. [chuckles]
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[Holly] We all started
just talking about
what was happening,
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it was Annie's birthday
and you know we were Kappas.
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They were also
in a fraternity
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It became this conversation,
"Oh, we have
so much in common.
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How have we not met before?"
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[Alicia] One of them,
21-year-old Chris Maier
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definitely catches
Holly's eye.
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[Annie] Chris had a hippie-ish
vibe to him,
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just laid back,
just like Holly.
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They just instantly seem
to be hitting it off.
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[Holly] I just noticed
that he was really tall,
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and I thought he was cute.
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He was personable
and could talk to me.
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I just left that bar thinking,
"That guy's really cute.
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I'd like to know him
some more."
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I thought it was awesome.
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I mean, Holly's personality
is boisterous,
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and Chris was outgoing
and fearless, too.
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And so, I thought to myself
that they could be
a perfect pair.
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It was just a cute,
little budding romance.
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The next day,
we wanted to have a picnic,
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but it was raining.
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And Chris went out
and jumped in the puddles.
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So, I'm starting to see
that child-like spirit
that he had.
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It was something
I'd never experienced
before in meeting a guy,
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and I liked it.
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He found a reason
to have fun every single day.
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I don't think I had any idea
what love was.
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I just knew that I wanted
to spend more time with him.
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[Greg] A few months later,
school is back in session,
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and on August 29th 1997,
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Chris picks up Holly
and they go to a house party.
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[Holly] It's 10 o'clock.
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I remember Chris had put
some beers
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and some different things
in his backpack.
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And we get to the party
and an hour went by,
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and we couldn't really talk,
I mean, it was too loud.
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He's like, "Well, let's go
take a walk by the tracks."
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I'm really excited to have
some time alone with Chris.
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And we went
maybe like, half a block
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to get to the railroad tracks.
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Yeah, I've only been
back here twice.
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To the actual scene.
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Just how different it looks.
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I mean, in the daytime,
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it's like
a whole different place.
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It doesn't look like
a terrible place.
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[train honking]
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[Holly] It was
a really dark night,
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like, there was not
a moon lighting up
the night sky.
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But, all I needed to see
was Chris.
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You know,
I was gazing in his eyes.
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We probably talked for
at least 30 minutes
at the tracks,
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and then we decided
that we'd go back
to the party.
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I don't think we realized
that anybody was around
or watching us
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until this man comes out
from behind
an electrical box.
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And he says,
"Do you have any money?"
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I could hear in his voice
like, an accent,
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that made me think this guy
is not from the United States.
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I think maybe
he's from Mexico.
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He had a weapon,
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like some sort of ice pick
or screwdriver or something
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that he was holding
on Chris the whole time.
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Chris started
the conversations of,
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"Hey, if you want money,
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we could get you our ATM card
and we've got a car,
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we could go
and get you money."
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Or, "There's other stuff
in my backpack, if you--
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What do you want?"
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[Greg] It becomes clear
that he's not interested
in robbing them.
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He's doing something
far more sinister.
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[Holly] He made Chris
get down on his knees
to go through his backpack.
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And then all of a sudden,
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he was tying up Chris's hands
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with the straps
from Chris's backpack.
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I felt scared.
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I felt like I didn't know
what was happening.
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I didn't understand.
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You feel such confusion.
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You-You feel like you can't
do anything.
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Because I wasn't gonna
leave Chris.
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I-- He had a hold of him.
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I wasn't gonna leave him.
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And then the man
comes over to me,
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and he takes off my belt
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and he ties up my hands
behind my back with my belt.
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Then he pulls Chris
by his shirt,
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from the railroad track
into the ravine
beside the tracks.
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So, I follow him down there.
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It felt like
the only thing I could do.
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He took us and laid us down
on our stomachs in the ravine.
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And then I remember
hearing him rip a shirt
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to tie up our legs
and make gags for us.
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At that point,
our attacker was saying
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"I just broke out of jail."
Just like, talking crazy.
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He kept going
back up to the tracks
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and leaving us
for a few seconds.
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And then he'd come back,
and then he'd leave.
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When he was gone,
I got my hands untied
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and I got our gags loose.
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My shoes had come off
and I was trying so hard
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to get my feet untied,
and I couldn't get them.
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I was trying to get Chris'
hands untied,
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and I was trying
to get his legs untied.
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Everything I was planning
to do,
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it's like,
this is not working.
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I was thinking,
"How are we gonna stop
this man from hurting us?"
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I was in fear
and I was scared.
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He was super calm
and peaceful.
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At that time,
he probably had no idea.
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But...
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Chris' last words
to me were,
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"Everything's gonna be okay."
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That's when our attacker
picked up a 52-pound rock,
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and I remember him
carrying it over
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and it just felt like a dream.
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I just remember him
struggling to carry it.
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And he just lifted it
as high as he could
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and dropped it
right on Chris's head.
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[thuds]
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[Holly] When he hit Chris,
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Chris did like,
a gurgling sound.
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I knew in my heart
that he had died.
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[crying] I mean,
he was just-- I can't--
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I-I cannot explain.
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But I know that
at that moment,
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I'm thinking like,
"Okay, I'm gonna die.
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This is-- I'm gonna die."
[sniffles]
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He comes over to me
after he hits Chris
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and he climbs on top of me
and I realize he's gonna
rape me.
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So, I'm trying to fight him.
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I try to kick him
in the balls
and hurt him.
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I'm screaming
and I'm punching
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and I'm doing whatever I can.
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And he takes
whatever weapon he had,
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and he stabs me in my neck,
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which I didn't feel,
but I knew he did it.
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And he says,
"Look how easily
I could kill you."
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And so I stopped.
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I'm like, "Okay,
this is gonna happen."
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So, he rapes me.
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And...
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I remember
floating above my body.
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I mean, I was floating above
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and didn't feel anything.
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The one thing
that I could control
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was memorizing his face.
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Because if I do make it
through this,
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I'm gonna know
every detail of your face
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'cause I'm gonna
get you someday.
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I don't know
how much time passed,
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but he put my pants back on.
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This is when I think
he picks up something
to hit me.
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But, he didn't pick up
the rock that
he hit Chris with.
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He picked up something else.
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He hit me
five or six times in my face.
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I think I put
my hand up to block it
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'cause my hand was
uh, swollen.
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I think I turned over because
I didn't wanna be hit
in the face,
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and I think he hit me
five or six times
in the back of my head.
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He knocked me unconscious.
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I don't really know
how long the attack occurred.
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I don't know how long
I laid there unconscious.
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There was a lot of time
that I was just passed out.
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And somehow I get up.
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I didn't even know
I was really hurt.
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The only thing
that I knew felt strange
was that my jaw felt wrong.
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I couldn't bite
or talk properly.
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The man who killed Chris
and attacked Holly
is nowhere to be seen.
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But, there's no telling
if and when
the man will return.
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Holly realizes
that she has to get up
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and leave Chris behind
in order to get help.
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She's bloodied, she's in pain
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and she gets up and walks,
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and about 100 yards
from where they were,
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there's a house
with a light on.
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[Holly] I don't know how
I got to the house
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where I went to get help.
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Especially with no marks
on my feet,
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walking through
rocks and glass
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and who knows what
on the railroad tracks.
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I didn't ring a doorbell.
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I didn't knock on the door.
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I just walked straight
into their house.
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And I remember seeing
somebody sitting at a desk.
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I couldn't really talk,
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but I know I said,
"Call 911,
my friend is still out there."
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I remember feeling like
I just wanted to go to sleep.
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And I mean,
I-I couldn't like,
think of anything else.
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Within minutes,
police cars and an ambulance
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arrived at
the young man's home.
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[Holly] I was very
in and out of it.
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I remember getting loaded
on the stretcher,
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being on the ambulance,
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and there's this guy
in the back
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and he's doing things,
and beeping and...
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I remember taking
a deep breath and going,
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"Oh my God, I'm safe.
Like, I'm safe."
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I was the on-call detective
who responded to the scene
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on the side
of the railroad track,
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where it was reported
that we had
a homicide victim.
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There was a lot of
brush and trees.
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It was very dark.
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I walked down the tracks
and saw Chris
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laying on the ground
with traumatic injuries.
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He was bludgeoned to death
with a large rock
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and created
massive injury to his head.
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The patrol officers
informed me that
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a living victim
by the name of Holly Dunn
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has been transported
to the hospital for treatment.
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There were several pieces
of evidence collected.
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Shoelaces and shoes
and a possible stick
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we thought was used
to assault her.
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We didn't have fingerprints.
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I needed to talk
to Holly Dunn.
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She's the only person
that can identify a suspect.
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Holly is rushed to the ER
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at the University of Kentucky
hospital.
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[machines beeping]
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[Greg] She has
a broken jaw,
a broken eye socket.
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She has multiple stab wounds
to the neck,
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and there's blood everywhere.
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She's in bad shape.
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[Holly] I was really
in and out of consciousness
in the hospital.
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I don't remember a whole lot.
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I had these deep gashes
in the back of my head
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from whatever he hit me with
that they stapled shut.
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[Curless] When I went
to the hospital,
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she was in horrible shape.
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But, if she's talking,
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I wanna extract
the information that I can
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about our suspect,
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before the doctors
start taking over.
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I am automatically leery,
and I'm not feeling good.
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My stomach doesn't feel good,
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and I'm like, "You really
don't wanna talk
to me right now."
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[Curless] It was taxing
for her to communicate.
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I think it would be traumatic
and very troubling
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to be restrained
and watch your boyfriend
be bludgeoned to death.
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But, I ask Holly
to describe the suspect.
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I told them he's like,
5'6", 5'7".
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He had those black eyes
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and he's wearing
a white shirt.
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He's a Mexican person,
and he can speak English.
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And he has glasses.
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I was giving him
every detail that I could.
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I knew that they were gonna
have to do a rape kit,
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and I was not
looking forward to that,
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especially after you've just
been traumatized.
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But, I was okay with them
doing it,
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because I'm like,
we need to collect evidence.
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[Curless] Those swabs
would be very critical
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in preserving DNA evidence
to identify our perpetrator.
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[Alicia] After police collect
the suspect's DNA
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from Holly's rape kit,
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they let her rest.
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[Greg] At that point,
the dark reality
of the previous few hours
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begins to really set in.
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[Holly] My parents got there
at five o'clock
in the morning.
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My dad comes
and holds my hand,
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and I mean,
I just look at him
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and I say,
"Chris is dead, isn't he?"
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And he said,
"Yes, he died."
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It wasn't fair.
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I didn't understand
why I was alive,
and he wasn't.
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[Annie] When I saw Holly
for the first time
at the hospital,
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the blood everywhere
and the swelling
of her face and...
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her being unrecognizable.
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She just did not look
like herself.
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It was just awful.
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I couldn't-- I just couldn't
imagine how she had--
[sniffles]
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Holly was in the hospital
for five days,
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and after she was released,
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she went home to Indiana
with her family.
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[Holly] I really started
to feel not only
the physical pain,
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but the emotional pain
of everything
I had been through.
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I was sleeping probably
20 hours a day.
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In Lexington, police enter
the suspect's DNA
into CODIS,
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the national DNA database.
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But, there is not a match
to Holly's attacker.
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So, investigators turn
to Holly for help.
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[Holly] The sketch artist came
after I'd been home
for a couple of days
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to do the drawing with me
of my perpetrator.
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I knew that this was
gonna be a hard thing to do.
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But, during the attack,
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the one thing that
I could control
was memorizing his face.
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And I'm like,
"You gotta do this
to the nose.
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Put glasses on him.
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Square lenses."
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All of a sudden,
we got to where
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I was like,
"This does look like him.
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That is exactly
what he looked like."
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We were able to focus
our investigation
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on a suspect,
male Hispanic,
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age range of 25-30.
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[train honking]
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The sketch is circulated
throughout Lexington,
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and tips begin to pour in.
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Lexington has
several industries
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that rely on migrant workers.
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The migrant workers will come
and go from this town,
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using railroad
as transportation.
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We had DNA
which positively links
the suspect to the crime.
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We went around interviewing,
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getting DNA samples
from Hispanics
traveling on the railroads.
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We collected a lot of
DNA samples.
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But, there wasn't
a positive match.
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It was frustrating
because it's like
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looking for a needle
in a haystack.
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There's a trailer park,
Gibson Avenue Trailer Park,
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a pretty good population
of Hispanics there.
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We wanna pass around
some flyers.
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00:19:14,330 --> 00:19:16,660
We'll have joining teams
coming up.
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We shouldn't be short
on manpower.
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[Curless]
In the back of your mind,
you know
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if the suspect can encounter
law enforcement
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and-and get into the system,
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then you have the potential
to identify them.
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They told me
that maybe they thought
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they were
never gonna catch him
until he did it again.
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[Annie] That was very scary.
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Just knowing
that he might strike again.
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[Alicia] Just one month
after the attack,
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Holly returns to school
in Lexington.
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[Holly] I went back to school
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because I needed
to get back into something
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that I felt, you know,
that I could control
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and be comfortable doing.
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But, every man,
I'm-I'm like,
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00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:02,760
looking them up and down
and like, thinking,
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00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:05,330
"Are you the one?
Are you the one?
Are you the one?"
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I was very hyper aware.
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00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:10,960
I didn't like being that way,
but I couldn't help it.
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00:20:11,030 --> 00:20:13,660
The triggers were hard
to work through.
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00:20:13,660 --> 00:20:16,260
I started hearing
trains at times
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00:20:16,260 --> 00:20:18,760
and-and I couldn't talk
anymore,
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00:20:18,830 --> 00:20:21,060
and I'd, like,
break out in a cold sweat,
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00:20:21,060 --> 00:20:23,830
and I'd like, hyperventilate.
I couldn't breathe.
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I would go
to the police station
and meet my detective.
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My detective had told me,
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00:20:31,730 --> 00:20:33,660
"You gotta keep
living your life.
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00:20:33,660 --> 00:20:34,760
Don't focus on all this.
400
00:20:34,830 --> 00:20:37,060
That's our job,
and we're gonna do that
401
00:20:37,130 --> 00:20:39,960
and we need you
to just keep on living
and doing your life."
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00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:42,560
So I tried
to go on with my life.
403
00:20:43,460 --> 00:20:44,660
I started hanging out
404
00:20:44,660 --> 00:20:46,860
with a lot of Chris'
old roommates and his friends
405
00:20:46,860 --> 00:20:49,260
because we all
needed each other.
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00:20:49,330 --> 00:20:53,560
We'd cook dinner together
and reminisce
and talk about Chris,
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00:20:53,630 --> 00:20:56,360
and it was just
a really healing year.
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00:20:57,300 --> 00:20:59,260
[Alicia] As Holly
continues to heal,
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00:20:59,260 --> 00:21:02,260
time passes
without any progress
410
00:21:02,260 --> 00:21:04,130
on identifying her attacker.
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00:21:08,500 --> 00:21:11,560
If they were
given information,
they did not share it with me.
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00:21:11,630 --> 00:21:13,660
I had graduated
from college,
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00:21:13,730 --> 00:21:16,230
and I still didn't know
really what was happening.
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00:21:18,260 --> 00:21:20,060
[Alicia] Then,
almost two years
415
00:21:20,060 --> 00:21:22,360
after Holly and Chris
were attacked,
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00:21:22,360 --> 00:21:24,760
there is a knock
on Holly's apartment door.
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00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:26,160
[knock at door]
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00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:28,860
[Alicia] It's a detective
from the Lexington
Police Department.
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00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:36,060
He said, "We have been
submitting the DNA
from your case
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00:21:36,060 --> 00:21:40,260
to other cases,
and we have a suspect."
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00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:44,160
[Greg] The DNA
from Holly's rape kit
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00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:47,560
matches a man suspected
of committing four murders
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in Texas
over the last year alone.
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00:21:50,830 --> 00:21:52,560
[Curless] There was a homicide
in Texas,
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00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:56,360
and that scene had
fingerprints and DNA evidence.
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00:21:56,360 --> 00:22:00,760
That DNA evidence
was linked
to our DNA evidence.
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00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:04,760
[Holly] He said,
"We're 99.9% positive
428
00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:08,260
that the person
that did this in Texas
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00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:10,660
did this to you.
430
00:22:10,660 --> 00:22:14,060
His name was
Angel Resendiz-Ramirez."
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00:22:21,100 --> 00:22:22,630
[Holly] When I found out
we have a suspect,
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00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:25,960
I think I felt scared
and happy,
433
00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:27,660
all at the same time.
434
00:22:27,730 --> 00:22:30,260
[Alicia] Holly learns,
over a year
after she was raped
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00:22:30,260 --> 00:22:31,460
and Chris was murdered,
436
00:22:31,460 --> 00:22:33,060
in the fall of 1998,
437
00:22:33,060 --> 00:22:36,000
an 87-year-old a woman
named Leafie Mason
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00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:39,030
was found bludgeoned to death
in her Texas home.
439
00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:45,260
[Kennedy] Since
I was 16 years old,
Leafie was my friend.
440
00:22:45,260 --> 00:22:48,560
One of the summer jobs I had
was to mow yards.
441
00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:50,860
Leafie would bring me
some tea out to drink.
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00:22:50,860 --> 00:22:52,160
I'd finish drinking
the tea
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00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:54,100
and I'd finish mowing
the yard and...
444
00:22:54,100 --> 00:22:56,160
Leafie, you know,
she was always nice to me,
445
00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:59,030
and I enjoyed--
I enjoyed visiting with her
and talking to her.
446
00:23:01,300 --> 00:23:04,060
Of course, I grew up
and graduated.
447
00:23:04,130 --> 00:23:08,630
In '97, I took over
as the Chief of Police
here, in Hughes Springs.
448
00:23:09,860 --> 00:23:11,960
[Alicia] Leafie was living
alone just across the street
449
00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:13,160
from the railroad tracks.
450
00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:16,760
And Randy Kennedy
checks in on her often.
451
00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:19,060
[Kennedy] Leafie hadn't
been seen for a few days.
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00:23:19,060 --> 00:23:22,560
So, I decided to go
and see if she was okay.
453
00:23:25,100 --> 00:23:27,930
[clears throat softly]
I'm sorry.
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00:23:30,460 --> 00:23:32,560
Well, it's just, um...
455
00:23:32,630 --> 00:23:33,860
I don't know what else
I could have done,
456
00:23:33,860 --> 00:23:34,960
but maybe...
457
00:23:36,260 --> 00:23:37,660
I don't know.
458
00:23:37,660 --> 00:23:39,360
It just feels like
I failed her.
459
00:23:42,700 --> 00:23:43,660
Leafie...
460
00:23:43,660 --> 00:23:45,030
She'd been beaten to death.
461
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,660
I saw the uh, antique iron
462
00:23:48,660 --> 00:23:51,160
with the handle
missing from it,
463
00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:53,960
in the chair
by the front door.
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00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:56,860
And then,
I found the iron handle
465
00:23:56,860 --> 00:23:58,760
with bloodstains on her bed.
466
00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:00,860
So, I knew then
467
00:24:00,860 --> 00:24:02,660
that this was the instrument
that was used
468
00:24:02,660 --> 00:24:03,930
to murder her with.
469
00:24:04,360 --> 00:24:05,460
It was violent.
470
00:24:05,530 --> 00:24:07,560
I mean, just the, uh,
the number of blows
471
00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:09,560
to her face and head
and stuff,
472
00:24:09,630 --> 00:24:12,230
I mean, this was
basically an overkill.
473
00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:14,660
When I got to
the back of the house,
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00:24:14,660 --> 00:24:17,760
I found that the window
had been partially prised out
475
00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:22,230
and palm prints
had been smashed up
against the window pane.
476
00:24:23,460 --> 00:24:24,860
That was huge.
477
00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:28,560
That-- that was
the number one link
478
00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:30,930
to my suspect,
if we could ever find him.
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00:24:33,360 --> 00:24:35,460
[Greg] The palm print
also points to
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how he entered the home,
which was through the window.
481
00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:41,360
Police Chief Kennedy
makes an observation
482
00:24:41,430 --> 00:24:45,760
that the window
faced the railroad tracks.
483
00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:50,000
[Kennedy] I was reaching out
to a lot of other departments
and news media.
484
00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:53,000
- And a few days later,
I was contacted...
-[phone rings]
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00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,160
[Kennedy] ...by
Sergeant Ken Macha
with the, uh,
486
00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:58,100
West University
Police Department in Houston.
487
00:24:58,100 --> 00:25:00,960
He said,
"There are a lot of things
in your case there
488
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:05,130
that match my case here
with Dr. Benton."
489
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,660
[Greg] On December 17th, 1998,
490
00:25:08,730 --> 00:25:12,260
a month and a half
after Leafie was beaten
to death,
491
00:25:12,330 --> 00:25:14,060
Dr. Claudia Benton
492
00:25:14,130 --> 00:25:17,360
was found raped
and beaten to death
493
00:25:17,360 --> 00:25:19,330
in her suburban Houston home.
494
00:25:20,300 --> 00:25:23,460
The attacker had used a statue
that was in the house
495
00:25:23,460 --> 00:25:25,960
to beat Claudia to death.
496
00:25:26,030 --> 00:25:29,960
Claudia's home was also right
near the railroad tracks.
497
00:25:30,030 --> 00:25:32,160
After attacking Claudia,
498
00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:33,560
he stole her car.
499
00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:35,160
The car was later recovered,
500
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:39,760
but authorities were able
to find fingerprints
on the car.
501
00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:41,260
[Kennedy]
Sergeant Macha told me,
502
00:25:41,260 --> 00:25:42,960
"We've got our suspect."
503
00:25:43,030 --> 00:25:46,000
[Barkhausen] The FBI
has a nationwide
fingerprint database
504
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:49,760
that maintains fingerprints
for all agencies,
505
00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:53,560
and, of course, immigration
fingerprints as well.
506
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:58,160
We knew that the fingerprints
at the Benton crime scene
507
00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:02,160
matched someone who had been
crossing the border
from Mexico.
508
00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:07,000
Fingerprints and DNA
ultimately connect
509
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:10,460
39-year-old
Angel Resendiz-Ramirez
510
00:26:10,460 --> 00:26:13,060
to the murders
of Leafie Mason,
511
00:26:13,130 --> 00:26:15,060
Dr. Claudia Benton,
512
00:26:15,060 --> 00:26:18,160
and to the double homicide
of husband and wife,
513
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:21,730
Norman and Karen Sirnic
in seven months' time.
514
00:26:23,360 --> 00:26:24,430
[Kennedy] It's just uh...
515
00:26:25,660 --> 00:26:27,260
hard to believe
516
00:26:27,330 --> 00:26:31,760
that Leafie
was the victim
of a serial killer.
517
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,660
[Holly] To have nothing
for two years
in Chris and I's case
518
00:26:34,660 --> 00:26:36,330
and then to all of a sudden
just have a suspect,
519
00:26:37,100 --> 00:26:39,060
I thought, "This is crazy."
You know?
520
00:26:39,130 --> 00:26:40,760
I mean,
I just couldn't believe it.
521
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:43,100
And they just keep adding
cases on and cases on,
522
00:26:43,100 --> 00:26:44,860
and it's getting
bigger and bigger.
523
00:26:44,930 --> 00:26:49,260
It just helped me to know
that all the evil
I was thinking he was,
524
00:26:49,260 --> 00:26:51,060
is exactly what he was.
525
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:57,560
[Barkhausen] In 1999,
526
00:26:57,560 --> 00:26:59,860
I was working
on a task force
527
00:26:59,860 --> 00:27:03,560
to capture
Angel Resendiz-Ramirez.
528
00:27:03,630 --> 00:27:07,030
The FBI started developing
the criminal profile.
529
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:11,660
The method of murder
in these cases
530
00:27:11,660 --> 00:27:14,730
was blunt force trauma
to the head.
531
00:27:16,100 --> 00:27:20,860
And all the victims
had railroad tracks
right next to their homes.
532
00:27:20,930 --> 00:27:23,160
Railroad drifters
know exactly where to go
533
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:24,460
when they jump a train.
534
00:27:24,460 --> 00:27:27,060
They can hide
in this tiny space
535
00:27:27,130 --> 00:27:28,960
on what's known
as a hopper car,
536
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,630
and no one would ever
even know they were there.
537
00:27:32,460 --> 00:27:33,860
[train honks]
538
00:27:33,860 --> 00:27:35,260
[Kennedy] He would
get off the railroad
539
00:27:35,330 --> 00:27:36,860
and uh, murder people,
540
00:27:36,860 --> 00:27:38,660
and then he would get back
on the railroad track
541
00:27:38,660 --> 00:27:41,760
and, you know,
ride the rails
to somewhere else.
542
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,860
So, that's how he got the name
of the "Railroad Killer."
543
00:27:44,860 --> 00:27:47,860
[Alicia] The FBI learns
that Angel Resendiz-Ramirez
544
00:27:47,860 --> 00:27:49,960
had first entered the country
illegally,
545
00:27:50,030 --> 00:27:52,760
21 years earlier in 1976
546
00:27:52,830 --> 00:27:54,160
as a transient.
547
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:56,660
[Barkhausen] Over the years,
548
00:27:56,730 --> 00:27:58,560
as he was riding
around the railroad,
549
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:00,860
there were crimes
that he had committed.
550
00:28:00,930 --> 00:28:04,130
But, he would use a lot
of different aliases.
551
00:28:05,100 --> 00:28:07,360
So, while he had
law enforcement contact,
552
00:28:07,360 --> 00:28:09,660
it wasn't realized
that all of these crimes
553
00:28:09,660 --> 00:28:13,830
were actually linked
to one person.
554
00:28:14,860 --> 00:28:19,060
Resendiz-Ramirez had some work
as a migrant farm worker.
555
00:28:19,060 --> 00:28:21,160
But, it wasn't like
he had a--
556
00:28:21,230 --> 00:28:22,760
a place that
he was always at.
557
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:24,760
[Curless] It became a manhunt.
558
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:26,660
Trying to track
a transient person
559
00:28:26,730 --> 00:28:28,660
is a lot more difficult
560
00:28:28,660 --> 00:28:32,360
than someone who's living
and staying in one location,
561
00:28:32,360 --> 00:28:35,060
or who has a phone,
a credit card, a car.
562
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:38,960
[reporter] They're also
watching from the sky
563
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,660
and looking under
and in between train cars.
564
00:28:41,730 --> 00:28:42,860
[woman] My husband
leaves in the morning,
565
00:28:42,860 --> 00:28:45,360
so I make sure my daughter
and I leave with him.
566
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,360
And we don't come home
until he comes home,
567
00:28:47,430 --> 00:28:49,560
'cause we're sitting
right on top of tracks.
568
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:51,360
We take this very seriously.
569
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:54,130
Uh, this suspect is somebody
that needs to be in jail.
570
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,360
[Alicia] On June 3rd, 1999,
571
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:01,660
Resendiz-Ramirez strikes
twice in one day.
572
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,060
[Greg] In Houston,
573
00:29:04,060 --> 00:29:07,000
he kills a school teacher,
Noemi Dominguez,
574
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:08,960
with a pickaxe.
575
00:29:09,030 --> 00:29:10,960
It was a brutal attack.
576
00:29:11,030 --> 00:29:14,760
And then he steals her car
and drives Schulenburg,
Texas.
577
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:17,360
Using the same pickaxe,
578
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:21,530
he kills a 73-year-old
grandmother,
Josephine Konvicka.
579
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:26,330
At that scene,
he left a toy train.
580
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:27,760
[train honks]
581
00:29:27,830 --> 00:29:30,760
He also had
the newspaper article
582
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:32,560
talking about the Sirnics,
583
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:34,860
the couple he murdered
in Weimar, Texas,
584
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:36,830
sitting on her couch.
585
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:39,960
So, it appeared as though
586
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:42,160
as many serial killers
in the past,
587
00:29:42,230 --> 00:29:45,860
he seemed to enjoy
letting the police know
that he's in charge.
588
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:47,560
He's proud of it.
589
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:49,660
You know, uh,
he's flaunting it.
590
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:51,460
"You couldn't stop me.
591
00:29:51,460 --> 00:29:53,000
Look what I did."
592
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:57,860
[reporter] Resendiz-Ramirez
is wanted in questioning
in southeast Texas.
593
00:29:57,930 --> 00:29:59,660
The fact that
he may be riding the rails
594
00:29:59,730 --> 00:30:01,660
even has
train workers nervous.
595
00:30:01,660 --> 00:30:04,260
Homeowners
are taking precautions too.
596
00:30:04,260 --> 00:30:06,830
I keep the doors locked
and keep a pistol by my bed.
597
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:12,430
The speed of his murders
was increasing.
598
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:16,530
He was progressing
in his bravery.
599
00:30:17,460 --> 00:30:19,660
We knew that if we didn't
get him into custody,
600
00:30:19,660 --> 00:30:23,260
more people were going to
become victims.
601
00:30:23,260 --> 00:30:25,760
Serial killers
don't just stop killing.
602
00:30:26,260 --> 00:30:27,630
Lives were at stake.
603
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:34,000
There was up to $126,000
worth of reward
604
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,560
for information
leading to his arrest.
605
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:38,060
People in Mexico
were looking for him,
606
00:30:38,130 --> 00:30:40,460
people in the-- in the US
were looking for him.
607
00:30:40,460 --> 00:30:44,100
As hoped for, it brings in
lots and lots of tips.
608
00:30:44,100 --> 00:30:47,360
-[phone rings]
-[Greg] One in particular
seems especially promising.
609
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:49,760
A person
who identified themselves
610
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,360
as the cousin
of Resendiz-Ramirez
611
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:54,560
provided information that
612
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:58,460
his sister Manuela
lived in Albuquerque,
New Mexico.
613
00:30:58,460 --> 00:31:01,660
[Alicia]
While the FBI attempts
to track down Manuela,
614
00:31:01,660 --> 00:31:03,660
her brother
is still on the run.
615
00:31:03,660 --> 00:31:05,160
On June 15th,
616
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,660
DNA links Resendiz-Ramirez
617
00:31:07,730 --> 00:31:10,460
to two additional murders
in Gorham, Illinois,
618
00:31:10,460 --> 00:31:13,960
which is just a two hour drive
from where Holly Dunn
grew up.
619
00:31:15,100 --> 00:31:16,960
There's all these cases
piling up
620
00:31:17,030 --> 00:31:20,360
and it's really scary
and we don't know
where he is.
621
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:22,760
I started feeling
a lot of survivor's guilt.
622
00:31:22,830 --> 00:31:25,100
He was breaking into
people's homes and like,
623
00:31:25,100 --> 00:31:26,560
getting them in their sleep.
624
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:29,660
It did seem like
he was being more violent
625
00:31:29,660 --> 00:31:30,860
with everyone else.
626
00:31:30,860 --> 00:31:32,460
It's like he was saying,
627
00:31:32,460 --> 00:31:34,960
"I made a mistake
leaving her alive.
628
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,330
I'm gonna make sure
that I don't do that again."
629
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:41,360
I kept thinking, like
"Was he coming to get me?"
630
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:43,560
I was so scared
that I was like,
631
00:31:43,630 --> 00:31:46,260
"I'm going to Europe
for the summer
632
00:31:46,260 --> 00:31:48,260
and I'll see you later."
633
00:31:49,260 --> 00:31:52,060
Days after Holly
leaves the country,
634
00:31:52,060 --> 00:31:54,860
FBI Agent Barkhausen
and her partner
635
00:31:54,860 --> 00:31:57,860
receive a case-breaking
phone call
636
00:31:57,930 --> 00:32:00,330
from Angel's sister, Manuela.
637
00:32:01,460 --> 00:32:02,760
[inaudible]
638
00:32:02,830 --> 00:32:05,960
She told us,
"He's in Mexico.
639
00:32:06,030 --> 00:32:09,430
But, I think he's considering
coming back to the US,
640
00:32:09,900 --> 00:32:11,660
and turning himself in."
641
00:32:13,260 --> 00:32:14,360
And we were shocked.
642
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:16,860
I mean,
how many serial murderers
643
00:32:16,930 --> 00:32:18,530
do you know
that turn themselves in?
644
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:19,830
It's unheard of.
645
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:23,160
And all we could attribute
that to
646
00:32:23,230 --> 00:32:26,960
is the reward,
the pressure, the media,
647
00:32:27,030 --> 00:32:29,960
the law enforcement,
all looking for him.
648
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,960
He didn't have the freedom
that he once had.
649
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:36,360
And he was looking
at being in prison.
650
00:32:36,430 --> 00:32:38,160
And in a Mexican prison,
651
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:40,960
you don't have as many rights
as you do here.
652
00:32:42,900 --> 00:32:45,460
[Greg] The next day,
there's a three way call
653
00:32:45,460 --> 00:32:49,560
with Resendiz-Ramirez,
Manuela and the FBI.
654
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:53,160
And Manuela is translating
for her brother,
655
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:57,460
who ultimately agrees
to turn himself in
to authorities
656
00:32:57,460 --> 00:32:59,830
right at the border
in El Paso, Texas.
657
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:07,000
[Alicia] Almost two years
after Holly Dunn was attacked
658
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:08,960
and Chris Maier was killed,
659
00:33:09,030 --> 00:33:12,260
agents from the FBI,
Texas Rangers
and the US Marshals
660
00:33:12,260 --> 00:33:14,160
descend on El Paso, Texas.
661
00:33:18,300 --> 00:33:22,260
[Barkhausen] He was
supposed to be coming
across the border any minute.
662
00:33:22,260 --> 00:33:24,760
And we were just,
"Please, let this happen.
663
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:26,260
Please let this happen."
664
00:33:26,330 --> 00:33:27,930
[man over radio] Unit two,
move into position.
665
00:33:28,700 --> 00:33:31,060
I mean, your heart
starts to beat faster.
666
00:33:31,060 --> 00:33:32,660
[man over radio] Possible
targets approaching.
667
00:33:32,660 --> 00:33:34,760
[Barkhausen]
And there's always
in the back of your mind,
668
00:33:34,830 --> 00:33:36,360
"Is this a setup?
669
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:37,730
Something bad
is gonna happen."
670
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:47,860
[Barkhausen] We're standing
at the border in El Paso,
671
00:33:47,930 --> 00:33:50,660
getting ready to arrest
the Railroad Killer.
672
00:33:52,100 --> 00:33:54,160
And eventually,
673
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,630
we saw a pickup
driving toward us.
674
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:00,430
And we knew that was him.
675
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:03,230
And the door opens.
676
00:34:04,660 --> 00:34:05,860
And he gets out.
677
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:11,830
A Texas Ranger
puts the handcuffs on him.
678
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:16,260
He was completely silent
the entire time.
679
00:34:16,330 --> 00:34:19,160
And he didn't even...
blink an eye.
680
00:34:20,100 --> 00:34:21,760
[handcuffs clicking]
681
00:34:21,830 --> 00:34:23,260
[Barkhausen]
And we put him in the car,
682
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:26,230
and we take a sigh of relief,
683
00:34:27,900 --> 00:34:29,860
that that part of
it's over.
684
00:34:29,860 --> 00:34:31,660
[reporter 1]
He's a railroad riding drifter
685
00:34:31,730 --> 00:34:33,960
accused of being
a notorious serial killer.
686
00:34:34,030 --> 00:34:36,160
[reporter 2] It brought an end
to one of the largest manhunts
687
00:34:36,230 --> 00:34:38,460
ever launched
in the United States.
688
00:34:38,530 --> 00:34:40,460
Following his surrender,
689
00:34:40,460 --> 00:34:43,960
Resendiz-Ramirez is taken
to Houston to face charges.
690
00:34:44,030 --> 00:34:45,460
He's appointed a lawyer
691
00:34:45,530 --> 00:34:48,460
and pleads not guilty
by reason of insanity.
692
00:34:48,460 --> 00:34:50,860
He surrendered
and I was still in Europe.
693
00:34:50,860 --> 00:34:53,060
I heard about it on the news,
just like everybody else.
694
00:34:53,060 --> 00:34:54,460
I think I felt relief.
695
00:34:54,460 --> 00:34:58,960
[reporter] The crime spree
took place between
1997 and 1999.
696
00:34:59,030 --> 00:35:01,360
Investigators say
they have fingerprints and DNA
697
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:05,130
linking Resendiz
to the brutal work
of the railroad serial killer.
698
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:08,560
[Holly] I was almost
like, giddy,
699
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:11,060
because I was so happy
700
00:35:11,060 --> 00:35:14,460
that he would never
hurt another person again.
701
00:35:14,460 --> 00:35:17,160
[Alicia] Resendiz-Ramirez's
murder spree
702
00:35:17,230 --> 00:35:21,060
spanned three states,
Texas, Kentucky and Illinois.
703
00:35:21,060 --> 00:35:24,060
In Texas, he faces
capital murder charges,
704
00:35:24,060 --> 00:35:26,460
which are punishable
by death.
705
00:35:26,460 --> 00:35:28,860
[reporter] If convicted
of killing the Houston doctor,
706
00:35:28,860 --> 00:35:30,260
the 40-year-old Resendiz
707
00:35:30,260 --> 00:35:32,660
could face
death by lethal injection.
708
00:35:33,860 --> 00:35:37,100
[Holly] I knew that Texas knew
how to do the death penalty.
709
00:35:37,100 --> 00:35:39,460
So, I was happy that
he surrendered in Texas
710
00:35:39,460 --> 00:35:41,730
and that Texas was taking
control of it all.
711
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:45,560
[Barkhausen]
When I testified at trial,
712
00:35:46,460 --> 00:35:49,260
it was a very short part
of the testimony,
713
00:35:49,260 --> 00:35:52,260
because I wasn't involved
directly with the murder case,
714
00:35:52,330 --> 00:35:53,830
just with the arrest.
715
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:57,260
It didn't bother me to--
to look at him,
716
00:35:57,330 --> 00:35:59,760
because... it's done.
717
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:01,260
His judgment is coming.
718
00:36:01,330 --> 00:36:02,560
It doesn't come from me.
719
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:08,530
[Greg] On May 18th, 2000,
a jury convicts
Resendiz-Ramirez.
720
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:16,360
Then comes the penalty phase,
721
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:19,860
and Holly testifies
as a witness and a survivor.
722
00:36:19,930 --> 00:36:23,660
The day before I testified,
I almost had
a complete panic attack,
723
00:36:23,660 --> 00:36:26,760
screaming and crying
and saying that
I couldn't do it.
724
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:29,160
Because I couldn't be
in the same room
with him again.
725
00:36:30,100 --> 00:36:31,630
I didn't wanna
see him again.
726
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,660
But I was like,
"You can do this, Holly."
727
00:36:35,660 --> 00:36:38,060
My family was there
and my sister was there,
728
00:36:38,060 --> 00:36:41,860
and everybody
just surrounded me again
and picked me up.
729
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:44,460
I did not look at him.
730
00:36:44,460 --> 00:36:46,630
Then, I went through
the whole story.
731
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:50,060
They got to that point
where they said,
732
00:36:50,130 --> 00:36:53,060
"Is the person
who attacked you
in the courtroom today?
733
00:36:53,130 --> 00:36:54,930
Could you please tell us
what he's wearing?"
734
00:36:55,660 --> 00:36:58,260
And so I looked at him,
and I mean,
735
00:36:58,260 --> 00:37:00,630
he had an expressionless face,
736
00:37:01,100 --> 00:37:03,960
almost a smirk on its face.
737
00:37:04,030 --> 00:37:06,660
I said, like, "He's wearing
a white button-down shirt."
738
00:37:06,730 --> 00:37:07,960
And the minute I said it,
739
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:10,060
my hearing
started going into my head
740
00:37:10,130 --> 00:37:12,000
and I started breaking out
into a cold sweat,
741
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:13,460
and I--
I was gonna faint.
742
00:37:13,460 --> 00:37:15,160
I mean, I--
I had felt that before,
743
00:37:15,230 --> 00:37:17,330
like, that-- I was
this close to fainting.
744
00:37:18,700 --> 00:37:20,760
The judge and everybody else
realized
745
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:22,160
that that was
about to happen, too,
746
00:37:22,230 --> 00:37:24,260
because they quickly said,
747
00:37:24,260 --> 00:37:25,760
"Defense, do you have
any questions?"
748
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:27,660
"No."
And the bailiff, like,
749
00:37:27,730 --> 00:37:30,730
picks me up and carries me
out of the courtroom.
750
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:36,100
[Alicia] On May 22nd, 2000,
751
00:37:36,100 --> 00:37:39,160
Holly returns home
to Indiana with her family.
752
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:41,330
I heard about the verdict
when we landed.
753
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:48,160
He was given
the death penalty,
754
00:37:48,230 --> 00:37:50,360
and I thought,
"Thank you, Texas."
755
00:37:50,430 --> 00:37:53,760
He never needs to go
to anywhere else
to do a trial.
756
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:55,800
[Alicia] Before his death,
757
00:37:55,800 --> 00:38:00,260
Angel Resendiz-Ramirez
admits to committing
nine murders.
758
00:38:00,260 --> 00:38:05,460
But law enforcement believes
that number is really
closer to 15,
759
00:38:05,460 --> 00:38:08,760
after linking him
to six additional murders
760
00:38:08,830 --> 00:38:13,260
in Georgia, Florida
and California.
761
00:38:13,330 --> 00:38:16,760
Angel Resendiz-Ramirez
A.K.A. the Railroad Killer
762
00:38:16,830 --> 00:38:18,760
was ultimately put to death
763
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:23,430
by the state of Texas
on June 27th, 2006.
764
00:38:25,260 --> 00:38:28,930
I was told at the execution
of Angel Resendiz-Ramirez
765
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:31,360
that his last words were,
766
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:33,060
"I ask you to forgive me.
767
00:38:33,060 --> 00:38:35,160
I ask the Lord to forgive me,
768
00:38:35,230 --> 00:38:37,230
for allowing the devil
to deceive me."
769
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:44,160
It-It gives me, uh, closure
770
00:38:44,230 --> 00:38:46,100
and uh, peace to know that
771
00:38:46,100 --> 00:38:48,430
he's not gonna be able to kill
anybody else.
772
00:38:49,660 --> 00:38:52,760
I believe that it was justice
in Chris and I's case,
773
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:54,960
and in everybody
that he killed.
774
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:57,230
It helped me
to feel safe again.
775
00:38:58,260 --> 00:39:00,960
The way she persevered
and overcame it,
776
00:39:01,030 --> 00:39:03,360
I remember thinking to myself,
"There is no way,
777
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:04,860
if this had happened to me,
778
00:39:04,930 --> 00:39:06,560
that I would be
dealing with it
779
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:07,960
the way that Holly does."
780
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:09,260
She just, was amazing.
781
00:39:11,260 --> 00:39:12,260
[Alicia] In 2008,
782
00:39:12,260 --> 00:39:13,860
Holly partners
with a detective
783
00:39:13,860 --> 00:39:16,360
from her hometown in Indiana,
784
00:39:16,430 --> 00:39:19,560
to create a nonprofit
that's named Holly's House.
785
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:21,660
[Greg] It's an advocacy center
786
00:39:21,660 --> 00:39:25,330
that helps victims
of sexual assault
and sexual abuse.
787
00:39:26,260 --> 00:39:29,060
And we opened
right after Labor Day,
788
00:39:29,130 --> 00:39:31,760
on September 2nd of 2008.
789
00:39:31,830 --> 00:39:34,860
At 8:00 a.m.,
and probably at 8:30,
790
00:39:34,930 --> 00:39:38,000
we had a domestic violence
victim walk in the door,
791
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:41,000
and we knew that
we did the right thing.
792
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:44,660
I think Holly Dunn
is one of the bravest people
I've ever heard of,
793
00:39:44,660 --> 00:39:46,260
to go through what she did
794
00:39:46,260 --> 00:39:49,030
and come out a good person
on the other side.
795
00:39:50,460 --> 00:39:54,000
Holly has been able to build
a beautiful life for herself.
796
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:57,160
She lives with her husband
and her children.
797
00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:58,860
[Holly] I have
my amazing husband
798
00:39:58,860 --> 00:40:02,360
who has been through
all of my healing with me.
799
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:03,660
[people applauding]
800
00:40:03,660 --> 00:40:06,360
And we have
two miracle sons
801
00:40:06,430 --> 00:40:09,160
who are just
the light of our lives.
802
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:10,660
When I get home,
803
00:40:10,660 --> 00:40:13,260
I cannot wait to get
a big, giant hug from them
804
00:40:13,260 --> 00:40:15,960
and you know,
they're just like my...
805
00:40:16,260 --> 00:40:17,760
my happiness.
806
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:22,760
I don't know if I'd be
the same person I am today
807
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:24,660
had this never happened.
808
00:40:24,730 --> 00:40:28,060
There's times where I can
just feel Chris' energy.
809
00:40:28,060 --> 00:40:30,760
And I mean, I feel child-like
myself at times,
810
00:40:30,830 --> 00:40:32,060
especially with my kids now.
811
00:40:32,060 --> 00:40:34,860
And it feels like I know
exactly how to be like them
812
00:40:34,930 --> 00:40:36,000
because I am in touch--
813
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,100
so in touch
with my child-like spirit.
814
00:40:38,100 --> 00:40:39,360
And that's all from Chris.
815
00:40:39,430 --> 00:40:43,260
I mean, I knew what
that was because of him.
816
00:40:43,330 --> 00:40:45,460
I know one thing,
that if Chris was still
in the world,
817
00:40:45,460 --> 00:40:47,130
he would still be my friend.
818
00:40:48,300 --> 00:40:50,760
So, you know, I'm--
I miss him.
819
00:41:12,100 --> 00:41:13,260
[man] Old women, children...
820
00:41:13,330 --> 00:41:14,560
it didn't matter to him.
821
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:16,660
Whoever was there
happened to be the victim.
822
00:41:16,660 --> 00:41:19,060
[woman] He was Dr. Jekyll
and Mr. Hyde.
823
00:41:19,060 --> 00:41:21,260
I didn't know from one moment
to the next
824
00:41:21,260 --> 00:41:22,560
if i was going to be killed.
825
00:41:22,630 --> 00:41:24,460
But I had to survive,
and I decided
826
00:41:24,460 --> 00:41:27,860
to make the Casanova Killer
fall for me.
827
00:41:27,860 --> 00:41:29,460
And it worked.
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