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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,966 --> 00:00:05,933 (suspenseful music) 2 00:00:41,133 --> 00:00:42,800 - [Narrator] Amber Alyssa Tuccaro 3 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:45,433 was a fiercely courageous, confident, 4 00:00:45,433 --> 00:00:47,400 and compassionate young woman, 5 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:50,100 beloved by her friends and family, 6 00:00:50,100 --> 00:00:53,500 her deep-rooted connection with cultivating relationships, 7 00:00:53,500 --> 00:00:56,266 as well as her passion to nurture those in need 8 00:00:56,266 --> 00:00:59,466 and to make a positive impact on the world around her 9 00:00:59,466 --> 00:01:03,966 was cut short by an unexplainable, unsolved death 10 00:01:03,966 --> 00:01:07,733 in the dog days of summer 2010. 11 00:01:07,733 --> 00:01:09,733 She left all who knew her 12 00:01:09,733 --> 00:01:13,300 in the Mikisew Cree First Nation in Alberta, Canada, 13 00:01:13,300 --> 00:01:15,966 and the entire country at large 14 00:01:15,966 --> 00:01:19,100 devastated, bewildered, and horrified 15 00:01:19,100 --> 00:01:21,866 in the wake of her tragic murder. 16 00:01:21,866 --> 00:01:25,133 In the hope of providing a more substantial reasoning, 17 00:01:25,133 --> 00:01:29,066 based upon observable evidence and situational analysis, 18 00:01:29,066 --> 00:01:33,100 this is an examination of the death of Amber Tuccaro 19 00:01:33,100 --> 00:01:35,133 and the suspicious audio recording 20 00:01:35,133 --> 00:01:37,233 from Amber's final phone call 21 00:01:37,233 --> 00:01:41,866 that may provide a clue to identify her unknown killer. 22 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:46,266 This is Cold Case Detective. 23 00:01:48,500 --> 00:01:51,500 (suspenseful music) 24 00:02:13,233 --> 00:02:17,700 Amber Alyssa Tuccaro was born on January 3rd, 1990 25 00:02:17,700 --> 00:02:21,000 as a part of the Mikisew First Nation Crew 26 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:23,133 and indigenous first nations government 27 00:02:23,133 --> 00:02:24,833 of Woodland Cree people 28 00:02:24,833 --> 00:02:28,233 in Northeastern, Alberta, Canada. 29 00:02:28,233 --> 00:02:30,066 Three days after her birth, 30 00:02:30,066 --> 00:02:32,633 she was adopted by the Tuccaro family 31 00:02:32,633 --> 00:02:36,800 led by her soon-to-be mother Vivian Tootsie Tuccaro. 32 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:39,933 She joined a family of all male children. 33 00:02:39,933 --> 00:02:42,600 Tootsie and her husband at the time had always wanted 34 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:44,300 a baby girl of their own 35 00:02:44,300 --> 00:02:47,400 and looked into adoptions as a solution. 36 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:48,833 Thus, when they received a call 37 00:02:48,833 --> 00:02:50,800 about an opportunity to adopt, 38 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:54,133 Amber was happily introduced to the Tuccaro clan 39 00:02:54,133 --> 00:02:58,133 and was instantly loved by each member of the family. 40 00:02:58,133 --> 00:03:00,233 Growing up, Amber wasted no time 41 00:03:00,233 --> 00:03:02,533 forging a close relationship with her parents 42 00:03:02,533 --> 00:03:06,800 and brothers Paul, Billy-Jo, Onrad, and Justin. 43 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:10,566 Together, the Tuccaro siblings grew up in Fort Chipewyan. 44 00:03:10,566 --> 00:03:13,933 As a part of the Mikisew first nation crew reserve, 45 00:03:13,933 --> 00:03:16,066 which was signed to the indigenous tribe 46 00:03:16,066 --> 00:03:18,300 in a treaty with Canada in 1986. 47 00:03:20,033 --> 00:03:22,966 Paul Tuccaro and his brothers took special care 48 00:03:22,966 --> 00:03:24,600 in looking after Amber. 49 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:26,500 Later saying that she was cuddled, 50 00:03:26,500 --> 00:03:30,200 but she also picked up on vital parts of living quite early, 51 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:31,533 learning how to walk 52 00:03:31,533 --> 00:03:34,766 at the surprising age of only eight months. 53 00:03:34,766 --> 00:03:38,266 This solidified a resounding resilience in Amber 54 00:03:38,266 --> 00:03:40,700 who hardened into a fiercely independent 55 00:03:40,700 --> 00:03:42,500 and resourceful young woman. 56 00:03:42,500 --> 00:03:45,833 Paul later said at the MMIW National Inquiry 57 00:03:45,833 --> 00:03:48,033 revolving around Amber's death, 58 00:03:48,033 --> 00:03:50,833 that she was the family's pride and joy 59 00:03:50,833 --> 00:03:53,166 and had a special place in Tootsie's hearts 60 00:03:53,166 --> 00:03:55,466 as the daughter, she never thought she'd. 61 00:03:56,566 --> 00:03:58,300 A few years later into Amber's life 62 00:03:58,300 --> 00:04:01,433 Tootsi and her then husband filed for divorce 63 00:04:01,433 --> 00:04:04,033 while it was originally planned to split up the family 64 00:04:04,033 --> 00:04:06,700 with the siblings breaking up into two residencies 65 00:04:06,700 --> 00:04:07,966 with each parents. 66 00:04:07,966 --> 00:04:11,533 It ultimately left Tootsi with all of her children. 67 00:04:11,533 --> 00:04:14,166 However, like many broken marriages, 68 00:04:14,166 --> 00:04:16,066 the divorce left Paul and his brothers 69 00:04:16,066 --> 00:04:17,800 to take leadership roles 70 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:18,900 within the family, 71 00:04:18,900 --> 00:04:22,200 continuing to look after Amber and their mother. 72 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:24,933 The brothers shared cooking and cleaning duties 73 00:04:24,933 --> 00:04:26,800 whilst all the siblings attended 74 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:29,100 Athabasca Delta Community Schools. 75 00:04:29,100 --> 00:04:30,300 As a teenager, 76 00:04:30,300 --> 00:04:33,066 Amber struggled with staying motivated to continue school 77 00:04:33,066 --> 00:04:35,100 in the reservation education system, 78 00:04:35,100 --> 00:04:38,266 but kept at it after the prodding of her older brothers 79 00:04:38,266 --> 00:04:42,200 who constantly preached how important education was 80 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:45,733 for a family who lacked it in generations prior. 81 00:04:45,733 --> 00:04:47,133 Once the brothers grew older 82 00:04:47,133 --> 00:04:49,466 and started miniature families themselves, 83 00:04:49,466 --> 00:04:51,366 Amber played a vital role 84 00:04:51,366 --> 00:04:54,166 in fostering relationships with her sisters-in-law, 85 00:04:54,166 --> 00:04:56,233 nieces and nephews. 86 00:04:56,233 --> 00:04:59,066 One of the many interests she developed over the years 87 00:04:59,066 --> 00:05:01,333 was a fascination with music 88 00:05:01,333 --> 00:05:04,833 and would introduce an eclectic variation of songs 89 00:05:04,833 --> 00:05:07,433 to her younger family members she looked after. 90 00:05:07,433 --> 00:05:09,800 Much like her brothers did for her. 91 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:13,000 She grew incredibly proud of her nieces and nephews 92 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:15,900 and infected them with her happy-go-lucky spirits 93 00:05:15,900 --> 00:05:17,666 whenever she visited. 94 00:05:17,666 --> 00:05:19,533 In June of 2009, 95 00:05:19,533 --> 00:05:21,300 Amber had a child of her own 96 00:05:21,300 --> 00:05:24,400 giving birth to a son named Jacob. 97 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:26,533 Jacob became Amber's everything, 98 00:05:26,533 --> 00:05:28,100 and she cared for him deeply. 99 00:05:28,100 --> 00:05:30,000 The two went everywhere together, 100 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:32,166 even on trips outside Fort McMurray, 101 00:05:32,166 --> 00:05:33,433 where she last lived. 102 00:05:33,433 --> 00:05:35,600 Tootsie Tuccaro often warned Amber 103 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:37,600 of the dangers of such adventures, 104 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:40,966 but Amber's forwardness and hardheaded spirit persisted. 105 00:05:40,966 --> 00:05:43,500 She was never afraid to get her hands dirty 106 00:05:43,500 --> 00:05:46,900 and always stuck up for herself and her loved ones. 107 00:05:46,900 --> 00:05:49,100 Sadly, however, the last trip, 108 00:05:49,100 --> 00:05:51,466 the mother and son duo ever ventured on 109 00:05:51,466 --> 00:05:53,000 would prove to be fatal. 110 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:56,166 When on the night of August 18th, 2010 111 00:05:56,166 --> 00:05:59,133 Amber last made contact with her Tuccaro family 112 00:05:59,133 --> 00:06:03,766 and then disappeared into the calm countryside of Edmonton. 113 00:06:03,766 --> 00:06:05,966 The site where her homicide investigation 114 00:06:05,966 --> 00:06:08,766 would break out two years later, 115 00:06:08,766 --> 00:06:10,700 when it was discovered that it was here, 116 00:06:10,700 --> 00:06:14,633 that she drew her last breaths in Leduc County. 117 00:06:14,633 --> 00:06:17,633 Let's turn now to a timeline of the events 118 00:06:17,633 --> 00:06:19,633 leading up to Amber's death. 119 00:06:21,033 --> 00:06:24,033 (suspenseful music) 120 00:06:27,233 --> 00:06:31,066 For 20 years between the 1990s and the end of the noughties, 121 00:06:31,066 --> 00:06:34,500 Tootsie Tuccaro looks out for her daughter, Amber Tuccaro 122 00:06:34,500 --> 00:06:37,366 like a hawk, always preaching common sense, 123 00:06:37,366 --> 00:06:41,266 safety and daily precaution as any mother will. 124 00:06:41,266 --> 00:06:44,566 These tips included warnings of staying away from strangers 125 00:06:44,566 --> 00:06:46,900 and getting into cars with unknown man. 126 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:49,800 It fastens an important bond between her 127 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:52,233 and her only female child. 128 00:06:52,233 --> 00:06:54,933 Fast forward to 2010 and Amber blossoms into 129 00:06:54,933 --> 00:06:57,833 an independence and lively soul. 130 00:06:57,833 --> 00:07:00,700 Starting a family with her own newborn son, Jacob 131 00:07:00,700 --> 00:07:03,566 and surrounding herself with devoted friends. 132 00:07:03,566 --> 00:07:06,866 She develops an explorative soul and a curiosity that 133 00:07:06,866 --> 00:07:09,200 inspires her to take trips around Canada 134 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:10,766 and check out the various cities 135 00:07:10,766 --> 00:07:14,300 and cultures outside of her hometown lands. 136 00:07:14,300 --> 00:07:17,566 Later that same summer in August of 2010, 137 00:07:17,566 --> 00:07:21,233 Amber decides to plan a trip to Edmonton, to visit a friend. 138 00:07:21,233 --> 00:07:24,300 She invites another one of her unidentified friends 139 00:07:24,300 --> 00:07:26,733 to join her and her 14-month-old son 140 00:07:26,733 --> 00:07:28,933 aiming to leave in the middle of the month 141 00:07:28,933 --> 00:07:31,233 for a two-day excursion. 142 00:07:31,233 --> 00:07:33,800 Soon after the plans are forged, 143 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:37,200 Amber informs her mother of the short Edmonton vacation. 144 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:40,333 Tootsi immediately feels uneasy about the idea 145 00:07:40,333 --> 00:07:42,433 and tells her daughter, she shouldn't go, 146 00:07:42,433 --> 00:07:45,633 hearkening back to her safety standards of adolescents. 147 00:07:45,633 --> 00:07:48,833 Amber's independence and forward spirit holds true, however, 148 00:07:48,833 --> 00:07:51,400 and she keeps the plans intact. 149 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:53,500 On Tuesday, August 17th, 150 00:07:53,500 --> 00:07:56,366 Amber packs up a few essentials and heads to the airport 151 00:07:56,366 --> 00:07:58,100 with Jacob and her friend 152 00:07:58,100 --> 00:07:59,866 and flies from Fort McMurray 153 00:07:59,866 --> 00:08:02,766 to Edmonton International Airport. 154 00:08:02,766 --> 00:08:04,466 Later on the 17th, 155 00:08:04,466 --> 00:08:07,366 the young trio arrives just outside of the city, 156 00:08:07,366 --> 00:08:09,000 near the airport and checks into 157 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:11,600 the Nisku Place Motel for lodging. 158 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:13,233 During their stay at the motel, 159 00:08:13,233 --> 00:08:16,166 Amber stays in constant communication with her mother 160 00:08:16,166 --> 00:08:19,900 sending along texts and updates throughout the afternoon. 161 00:08:19,900 --> 00:08:21,300 On day two of the trip, 162 00:08:21,300 --> 00:08:23,200 Wednesday, August 18th, 163 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:26,200 Amber agrees with her friends that they will travel into 164 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:28,100 the city the following day. 165 00:08:28,100 --> 00:08:31,200 Their funds are not large and they plot ways to save money 166 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:32,466 during the trip. 167 00:08:32,466 --> 00:08:35,033 As the evening draws near on the 18th, 168 00:08:35,033 --> 00:08:37,466 Amber decides she wants to head into Edmonton 169 00:08:37,466 --> 00:08:39,100 earlier than they planned. 170 00:08:39,100 --> 00:08:42,033 Being low on cash, she makes unknown arrangements 171 00:08:42,033 --> 00:08:44,066 for a ride into the city 172 00:08:44,066 --> 00:08:46,033 and leaves Jacob with her friends 173 00:08:46,033 --> 00:08:47,866 at the Nisku Motel. 174 00:08:47,866 --> 00:08:50,500 Without divulging any specifics of the ride 175 00:08:50,500 --> 00:08:52,733 or details about who is picking her up, 176 00:08:52,733 --> 00:08:56,000 Amber leaves for a hitchhike in the stranger's vehicle. 177 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:58,666 This will be the last confirmed time 178 00:08:58,666 --> 00:09:01,566 anyone sees Amber Tuccaro. 179 00:09:01,566 --> 00:09:04,300 During Amber's ride with her mysterious driver, 180 00:09:04,300 --> 00:09:06,466 she receives a phone call from her brother 181 00:09:06,466 --> 00:09:08,466 in the Edmondson Remand Center, 182 00:09:08,466 --> 00:09:10,166 a local prison system. 183 00:09:10,166 --> 00:09:12,866 The entire conversation lasts 17 minutes 184 00:09:12,866 --> 00:09:15,033 and includes multiple instances of Amber 185 00:09:15,033 --> 00:09:18,566 questioning her driver of their intended destination, 186 00:09:18,566 --> 00:09:22,600 to which he replies with suspicious and strange answers. 187 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:24,333 The call ends without notice 188 00:09:24,333 --> 00:09:26,233 and would be the last confirmed time, 189 00:09:26,233 --> 00:09:30,533 anyone talked to or heard from Amber Tuccaro. 190 00:09:30,533 --> 00:09:33,366 As we fall deeper into the night of August 18th, 191 00:09:33,366 --> 00:09:35,700 both Amber's friend and Tootsie Tuccaro, 192 00:09:35,700 --> 00:09:37,666 lose all contact with Amber 193 00:09:37,666 --> 00:09:41,300 who no longer responds to texts or phone calls. 194 00:09:41,300 --> 00:09:44,000 Tootsi immediately feels intense worry, 195 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:46,033 remembering her daughter's hardheadedness 196 00:09:46,033 --> 00:09:47,433 to all of her warnings 197 00:09:47,433 --> 00:09:49,900 about the mischievous characters of the world, 198 00:09:49,900 --> 00:09:53,533 knowing her daughter's silence is too abnormal for comfort 199 00:09:53,533 --> 00:09:57,600 Tootsie calls the authorities and reports Amber missing. 200 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:00,233 After the Royal Canadian Mounted Police receives 201 00:10:00,233 --> 00:10:01,666 the missing person's reports. 202 00:10:01,666 --> 00:10:06,033 They tell Tootsi, the case is not of any serious importance. 203 00:10:06,033 --> 00:10:08,833 Their excuse is the Amber is probably out partying 204 00:10:08,833 --> 00:10:10,833 and snuck away for recreation 205 00:10:10,833 --> 00:10:14,066 and will call later that night or the next day. 206 00:10:14,066 --> 00:10:16,166 24 hours go by 207 00:10:16,166 --> 00:10:18,600 and Amber remains silence. 208 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:20,966 Tootsie pushes the missing person's reports 209 00:10:20,966 --> 00:10:25,533 and the RCMP finally takes initiative to investigate. 210 00:10:25,533 --> 00:10:27,233 Over the next 14 months, 211 00:10:27,233 --> 00:10:30,466 the RCMP interviews people both familiar with Amber 212 00:10:30,466 --> 00:10:33,333 and folks around Edmonton's outskirts. 213 00:10:33,333 --> 00:10:34,733 They develop few leads 214 00:10:34,733 --> 00:10:38,533 and find little to no evidence around Nisku. 215 00:10:38,533 --> 00:10:40,766 In October of 2011, 216 00:10:40,766 --> 00:10:45,000 the RCMP officially asks for investigative assistance 217 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:46,366 from Project CARE, 218 00:10:46,366 --> 00:10:48,766 special task force that focuses on missing 219 00:10:48,766 --> 00:10:51,066 and murdered women's cases. 220 00:10:51,066 --> 00:10:54,133 Yet, it wouldn't be for another 10 months 221 00:10:54,133 --> 00:10:56,566 before the next big development explodes 222 00:10:56,566 --> 00:10:58,066 in Amber's vanishing. 223 00:10:58,066 --> 00:10:59,600 In August of 2012, 224 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:02,466 police obtained a 17-minutes phone call 225 00:11:02,466 --> 00:11:05,000 recording from the Edmonton Remand Center, 226 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:07,600 featuring Amber Tuccaro voice. 227 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:11,900 Amber appears to be in a car with an unidentified male. 228 00:11:11,900 --> 00:11:15,033 Authorities confirm the legitimacy of the audio clip 229 00:11:15,033 --> 00:11:17,800 and theorize the mysterious man in question 230 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:19,900 is almost certainly involved 231 00:11:19,900 --> 00:11:21,566 with Amber's vanishing. 232 00:11:21,566 --> 00:11:24,533 By the end of the month on Tuesday, August 28th, 233 00:11:24,533 --> 00:11:27,266 Project CARE and the RCMP released 234 00:11:27,266 --> 00:11:29,200 a phone recording to news outlets 235 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:33,100 who broadcast a one minute excerpts to a national audience 236 00:11:33,100 --> 00:11:35,166 asking citizens around the country, 237 00:11:35,166 --> 00:11:39,733 if they can recognize or identify the unknown male's voice. 238 00:11:39,733 --> 00:11:41,466 Hundreds of tips pour in 239 00:11:41,466 --> 00:11:43,366 from concerned listeners. 240 00:11:43,366 --> 00:11:45,600 In a major coincidental twist 241 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:47,900 on Saturday, September 1st, 2012, 242 00:11:47,900 --> 00:11:50,900 I mean four days after the clip has released 243 00:11:50,900 --> 00:11:52,866 a group of horseback riders 244 00:11:52,866 --> 00:11:55,333 stumble upon a fragment of human skull 245 00:11:55,333 --> 00:11:58,033 in a wooded area on rural farm land, 246 00:11:58,033 --> 00:12:01,866 near Leduc in Leduc county, south of Edmonton. 247 00:12:01,866 --> 00:12:03,833 The bones are quickly sent for processing 248 00:12:03,833 --> 00:12:05,700 and dental records confirm 249 00:12:05,700 --> 00:12:09,533 they match Amber Tuccaro's DNA profile. 250 00:12:09,533 --> 00:12:12,200 Her case transitions from a missing person's 251 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:15,033 to an unsolved homicide. 252 00:12:15,033 --> 00:12:17,133 In the following weeks, months and years, 253 00:12:17,133 --> 00:12:20,166 investigators continue their pleas for the general public 254 00:12:20,166 --> 00:12:22,500 to come forward with information 255 00:12:22,500 --> 00:12:25,900 about the male voice in Amber's final phone call 256 00:12:25,900 --> 00:12:29,800 now understanding him to likely be her killer. 257 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:33,200 Plenty of followers report potential persons of interest, 258 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:37,200 but none ever announced to the public or arrested. 259 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:40,366 The most curious circumstance of all is a time 260 00:12:40,366 --> 00:12:43,600 when three separate women who wish to remain anonymous, 261 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:47,233 come forward to the police and say for certain they know 262 00:12:47,233 --> 00:12:48,800 who the voice belongs to. 263 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:51,466 However, this man is apparently heavily searched 264 00:12:51,466 --> 00:12:53,566 and interrogated by investigators 265 00:12:53,566 --> 00:12:57,266 and cleared of having any connection to Amber. 266 00:12:57,266 --> 00:12:59,766 Sadly from 2012 to the present day, 267 00:12:59,766 --> 00:13:03,166 Amber's unsolved death has only grown colder. 268 00:13:03,166 --> 00:13:05,400 The male voice has yet to be identified 269 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:06,900 and the longer it freezes, 270 00:13:06,900 --> 00:13:09,800 the more forgotten it becomes by society. 271 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:12,766 The most recent update came on January 24th, 2020, 272 00:13:13,766 --> 00:13:15,433 when a young man from Edmonton 273 00:13:15,433 --> 00:13:17,700 called the RCMP and stated 274 00:13:17,700 --> 00:13:20,600 he believed his father was not only the male driver 275 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:21,866 in Amber's case, 276 00:13:21,866 --> 00:13:25,400 but also responsible for the deaths of other murdered women 277 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:27,600 in the Leduc County area. 278 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:29,900 The RCMP investigated the claim, 279 00:13:29,900 --> 00:13:32,933 but found it to be unsubstantiated. 280 00:13:32,933 --> 00:13:33,966 They said the claimant had 281 00:13:33,966 --> 00:13:36,433 a history of reporting fabricated tips, 282 00:13:36,433 --> 00:13:38,266 and that some of the murdered women's cases, 283 00:13:38,266 --> 00:13:40,366 he said his father had involvement with 284 00:13:40,366 --> 00:13:42,666 were already solved. 285 00:13:42,666 --> 00:13:43,566 As of today, 286 00:13:43,566 --> 00:13:46,866 both the RCMP and Project CARE investigators are still 287 00:13:46,866 --> 00:13:51,066 asking for people to call in with any leads to identifying 288 00:13:51,066 --> 00:13:56,066 the unknown man or solving Amber's homicide case in general. 289 00:14:04,733 --> 00:14:06,566 Of all the odd peculiarities 290 00:14:06,566 --> 00:14:08,600 prodding out of Amber's case file, 291 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:12,266 none cuts deeper than the mysterious phone call recording 292 00:14:12,266 --> 00:14:15,233 obtained by police and major news outlets 293 00:14:15,233 --> 00:14:20,133 two years after Amber Tuccaro's initial disappearance. 294 00:14:20,133 --> 00:14:22,133 While the exact time of the phone call 295 00:14:22,133 --> 00:14:23,766 has never been specified. 296 00:14:23,766 --> 00:14:27,300 It's collectively agreed upon to be the last communication 297 00:14:27,300 --> 00:14:30,766 Amber made with any of her family or friends 298 00:14:30,766 --> 00:14:33,233 and the final clue she left behind 299 00:14:33,233 --> 00:14:35,833 before she was ultimately killed. 300 00:14:35,833 --> 00:14:38,500 Thus, it's believed the phone call recording took place 301 00:14:38,500 --> 00:14:41,700 originally on August 18th, 2010, 302 00:14:41,700 --> 00:14:45,066 the day Amber vanished and passed away. 303 00:14:45,066 --> 00:14:46,900 It happened in the later evening hours 304 00:14:46,900 --> 00:14:49,633 when Amber decided to leave her son with her friend 305 00:14:49,633 --> 00:14:52,433 and travel into Edmonton that night, 306 00:14:52,433 --> 00:14:54,333 rather than the following day. 307 00:14:54,333 --> 00:14:55,733 To save money for lodging, 308 00:14:55,733 --> 00:14:59,333 Amber decided to forego a taxi or paid car service 309 00:14:59,333 --> 00:15:02,033 and hitchhiked with a stranger. 310 00:15:02,033 --> 00:15:04,700 During the ride with the unidentified man, 311 00:15:04,700 --> 00:15:07,700 Amber entered a telephone conversation with her brother 312 00:15:07,700 --> 00:15:09,366 who made a phone call from prison 313 00:15:09,366 --> 00:15:11,366 at Edmonton's Remand Center, 314 00:15:11,366 --> 00:15:16,000 where all outgoing communication is recorded and preserved. 315 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:18,233 The entire talk is 17 minutes long, 316 00:15:18,233 --> 00:15:21,200 but only about one minute was released by authorities 317 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:24,100 claiming it's the only vital piece of information 318 00:15:24,100 --> 00:15:26,200 relevant to Amber's death. 319 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:27,966 Before I play this recording, 320 00:15:27,966 --> 00:15:30,100 I want to warn listeners that the audio clip 321 00:15:30,100 --> 00:15:32,666 could be distressing for some, 322 00:15:32,666 --> 00:15:34,266 for those who want to hear, 323 00:15:34,266 --> 00:15:36,200 please play close attention 324 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:39,400 to the voice of the male subject. 325 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:41,833 - [Amber] Where are we by? 326 00:15:41,833 --> 00:15:44,566 - [Driver] We're just heading south of Beaumont, 327 00:15:44,566 --> 00:15:46,033 or north of Beaumont. 328 00:15:46,033 --> 00:15:48,466 - [Amber] We're heading north of Beaumont. 329 00:15:48,466 --> 00:15:50,000 Yo, where are we going? 330 00:15:51,100 --> 00:15:51,933 - [Driver] Just- 331 00:15:54,466 --> 00:15:55,500 the back roads. 332 00:15:55,500 --> 00:15:57,266 - [Amber] Are you fucking kidding me? 333 00:15:57,266 --> 00:15:58,633 - [Driver] No, I'm not kidding you. 334 00:15:58,633 --> 00:16:00,800 - [Amber] You'd better not be taking me 335 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:02,233 anywhere I don't wanna go. 336 00:16:02,233 --> 00:16:03,933 I wanna go into the city? 337 00:16:06,500 --> 00:16:08,433 No, we're not going into the city, are we? 338 00:16:08,433 --> 00:16:09,800 - [Driver] We are, we're going- 339 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:11,200 - [Amber] No, we're not. 340 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:12,033 - [Driver] Yes. 341 00:16:12,033 --> 00:16:14,433 - [Amber] Then, where the fuck are these roads going to? 342 00:16:14,433 --> 00:16:16,466 - [Driver] The 50th Street. 343 00:16:16,466 --> 00:16:18,866 - [Amber] The 50th Street? Are you sure? 344 00:16:18,866 --> 00:16:20,266 - [Driver] Absolutely. 345 00:16:20,266 --> 00:16:21,900 - [Amber] Yo, where are we going? 346 00:16:22,766 --> 00:16:24,600 - [Driver] 50th Street. 347 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:26,466 - [Amber] 50th Street? 348 00:16:26,466 --> 00:16:28,000 - [Driver] 50th Street. 349 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:29,733 - [Amber] East, right? 350 00:16:29,733 --> 00:16:31,066 - [Driver] East. 351 00:16:36,566 --> 00:16:39,200 (phone beeping) 352 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:41,233 - [Narrator] The ending of the clip is not 353 00:16:41,233 --> 00:16:42,900 the ending of this conversation. 354 00:16:42,900 --> 00:16:46,033 However, in an interview with Tootsie Tuccaro, 355 00:16:46,033 --> 00:16:47,233 CBC news reported, 356 00:16:47,233 --> 00:16:49,866 the Tootsi had heard the entire recording 357 00:16:49,866 --> 00:16:52,300 and said, it ended abruptly 358 00:16:52,300 --> 00:16:55,166 detecting fear in Amber's voice, 359 00:16:55,166 --> 00:16:57,233 But as I'm sure you noticed, 360 00:16:57,233 --> 00:16:59,733 even within the one minute we have available, 361 00:16:59,733 --> 00:17:01,533 there is a level of discomfort 362 00:17:01,533 --> 00:17:03,733 emanating from Amber's question. 363 00:17:03,733 --> 00:17:07,066 While she holds firm on her desires and remains vocal, 364 00:17:07,066 --> 00:17:09,066 there is a sense of unease. 365 00:17:09,066 --> 00:17:12,233 The unknown man is clearly lying with Amber 366 00:17:12,233 --> 00:17:13,366 at first saying they're heading 367 00:17:13,366 --> 00:17:15,200 south or north of Beaumont's. 368 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:17,000 Later in the recording, 369 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:19,600 he says, he's taking her to 50th Street. 370 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:21,433 However, locals of Edmondton claim, 371 00:17:21,433 --> 00:17:24,300 there are no gravel roads on 50th Street 372 00:17:24,300 --> 00:17:26,300 and that he was most likely driving down 373 00:17:26,300 --> 00:17:30,466 countryside roads in the complete opposite direction. 374 00:17:30,466 --> 00:17:32,866 The suspects also sounds as if he laughs 375 00:17:32,866 --> 00:17:34,633 at one point in the clip 376 00:17:34,633 --> 00:17:37,900 hinting at a potentially deranged motive. 377 00:17:37,900 --> 00:17:40,166 Regardless, it's obviously painful 378 00:17:40,166 --> 00:17:41,966 to hear Amber's final words, 379 00:17:41,966 --> 00:17:44,066 confessing her concern with the man 380 00:17:44,066 --> 00:17:47,566 taking her someplace she doesn't want to go. 381 00:17:47,566 --> 00:17:50,266 It's highly probable that the man in this recording 382 00:17:50,266 --> 00:17:52,600 is the man who took Amber's life, 383 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:54,533 or at least he was one of the final people 384 00:17:54,533 --> 00:17:56,166 to make contact with her 385 00:17:56,166 --> 00:17:59,500 and absolutely knows of her fate. 386 00:17:59,500 --> 00:18:03,366 Hundreds of people have called in to the RCMP over the years 387 00:18:03,366 --> 00:18:06,133 with tips and names of possible suitors. 388 00:18:06,133 --> 00:18:09,966 Yet, investigators have never confirmed or released a name 389 00:18:09,966 --> 00:18:12,733 rather explaining that they've researched all leads 390 00:18:12,733 --> 00:18:14,466 and have yet to find someone 391 00:18:14,466 --> 00:18:16,566 who fits the man's profile. 392 00:18:16,566 --> 00:18:18,866 Without a doubt, someone out there has also heard 393 00:18:18,866 --> 00:18:21,133 this male subject voice before 394 00:18:21,133 --> 00:18:25,266 and could come forward with absolutely vital information. 395 00:18:25,266 --> 00:18:27,166 If you or anyone you know 396 00:18:27,166 --> 00:18:29,566 might be able to identify the voice 397 00:18:29,566 --> 00:18:32,200 heard in Amber Tuccaro's final phone call, 398 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:35,666 please alerts the proper authorities. 399 00:18:35,666 --> 00:18:38,966 Although audio from telephones and secondary recordings 400 00:18:38,966 --> 00:18:41,400 can distort a person's voice, 401 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:44,600 identifying the man behind this audio clip 402 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:46,966 will likely be the information needed 403 00:18:46,966 --> 00:18:49,466 to finally crack Amber's case, 404 00:18:49,466 --> 00:18:52,833 bringing a family in mourning much deserved closure 405 00:18:52,833 --> 00:18:56,300 and bringing justice to light against a killer. 406 00:18:58,833 --> 00:19:02,533 (suspenseful music) 407 00:19:02,533 --> 00:19:05,200 In the years since Amber Tuccaro's murder, 408 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:08,633 plenty of theories have been constructed by her family, 409 00:19:08,633 --> 00:19:10,433 by Edmonton residents 410 00:19:10,433 --> 00:19:12,633 and concerned followers of the case 411 00:19:12,633 --> 00:19:14,300 all across Canada. 412 00:19:14,300 --> 00:19:15,566 Most often, they revolve around 413 00:19:15,566 --> 00:19:17,466 the tragic audio recording 414 00:19:17,466 --> 00:19:20,166 of Amber's haunting final phone call 415 00:19:20,166 --> 00:19:23,966 and pinpointing the identity of the man behind the wheel, 416 00:19:23,966 --> 00:19:26,000 driving her towards doom. 417 00:19:26,966 --> 00:19:30,866 One popular theory attempting to identify Amber's killer 418 00:19:30,866 --> 00:19:33,200 derives from three women who called him 419 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:36,433 with testimonies about who the male voice belongs to 420 00:19:36,433 --> 00:19:38,166 in Amber's phone recording 421 00:19:38,166 --> 00:19:41,266 soon after it was released in 2012. 422 00:19:41,266 --> 00:19:43,233 The first woman who alerted authorities 423 00:19:43,233 --> 00:19:46,600 claimed she was certain she knew who the voice was, 424 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:48,933 saying she was able to perfectly picture him 425 00:19:48,933 --> 00:19:51,766 in the scene of Amber's final moments. 426 00:19:51,766 --> 00:19:53,700 The name of this male individual 427 00:19:53,700 --> 00:19:55,900 was not released to the public, 428 00:19:55,900 --> 00:19:58,900 but soon after two new women followed up the report 429 00:19:58,900 --> 00:20:01,600 with additional claims that they believe the voice 430 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:05,100 to be of the same male individual. 431 00:20:05,100 --> 00:20:08,133 Three random incidents of three separate women, 432 00:20:08,133 --> 00:20:10,233 all reporting the same person 433 00:20:10,233 --> 00:20:12,300 rings highly suspicious. 434 00:20:12,300 --> 00:20:14,700 The RCMP thought so, too, 435 00:20:14,700 --> 00:20:17,200 but has since announced that the male individual 436 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:21,566 has no connection to Amber or her final days in Edmonton. 437 00:20:21,566 --> 00:20:23,833 And yet those unidentified women 438 00:20:23,833 --> 00:20:25,600 believe the claims against the man 439 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:28,466 were not investigated thoroughly. 440 00:20:28,466 --> 00:20:30,900 After some digging by curious third parties 441 00:20:30,900 --> 00:20:32,033 across the Internet, 442 00:20:32,033 --> 00:20:34,566 it was discovered that the person in question 443 00:20:34,566 --> 00:20:37,033 reported by the three women was a man 444 00:20:37,033 --> 00:20:39,200 by the name of Pat Carson. 445 00:20:40,033 --> 00:20:42,433 Pat Carson is an infamous figure 446 00:20:42,433 --> 00:20:44,666 of the Edmonton, Canada area 447 00:20:44,666 --> 00:20:46,200 known for his criminal record 448 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:48,966 and arrests for sexual assaults, 449 00:20:48,966 --> 00:20:51,366 procuring juvenile prostitutes 450 00:20:51,366 --> 00:20:54,133 and physically assaulting a woman by choking her 451 00:20:54,133 --> 00:20:56,066 to overcome her resistance. 452 00:20:56,066 --> 00:21:00,000 He was released from prison on January 28th, 2003, 453 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:01,866 and returned home to his horse ranch 454 00:21:01,866 --> 00:21:04,166 in Sandy Beach, Alberta. 455 00:21:04,166 --> 00:21:06,500 Ever since he has been residing there, 456 00:21:06,500 --> 00:21:09,500 working around his land and fixing machinery 457 00:21:09,500 --> 00:21:11,733 while also posting advertisements 458 00:21:11,733 --> 00:21:14,433 across Craigslist and other Internet forums 459 00:21:14,433 --> 00:21:18,266 for people to come and work on his ranch as apprentices. 460 00:21:18,266 --> 00:21:21,233 This is where things become murky and disturbing. 461 00:21:21,233 --> 00:21:22,833 Since being released from prison, 462 00:21:22,833 --> 00:21:25,433 countless stories of Pat and his horse ranch 463 00:21:25,433 --> 00:21:28,266 have populated blogs and Reddit threads online 464 00:21:28,266 --> 00:21:31,366 discussing his severely suspicious activity 465 00:21:31,366 --> 00:21:34,233 and history of disturbing behavior. 466 00:21:34,233 --> 00:21:35,066 In fact, 467 00:21:35,066 --> 00:21:38,000 there is an entire website dedicated solely 468 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:39,300 to warning young people 469 00:21:39,300 --> 00:21:42,266 and anyone who comes into contact with his job postings, 470 00:21:42,266 --> 00:21:44,866 allowing people to share their stories of horror 471 00:21:44,866 --> 00:21:48,300 in regards to both Pat himself and the ranch, 472 00:21:48,300 --> 00:21:51,300 multiple people talk about how manipulative he was 473 00:21:51,300 --> 00:21:53,333 over the phone and in person 474 00:21:53,333 --> 00:21:56,533 talking about taking naked photos for woodcarvings 475 00:21:56,533 --> 00:21:58,133 to generate revenue. 476 00:21:58,133 --> 00:22:01,066 One detailed story from a woman who visited the ranch 477 00:22:01,066 --> 00:22:04,566 in the mid 2000s repeated similar circumstances, 478 00:22:04,566 --> 00:22:06,700 and how Pat would use alter egos 479 00:22:06,700 --> 00:22:09,300 and ask for full body massages. 480 00:22:09,300 --> 00:22:10,833 The same victim went on 481 00:22:10,833 --> 00:22:14,433 saying how she realized she wasn't safe at his ranch 482 00:22:14,433 --> 00:22:15,833 and telling of how she once 483 00:22:15,833 --> 00:22:17,333 went through his things one night 484 00:22:17,333 --> 00:22:19,700 when he wasn't home and found he had saved 485 00:22:19,700 --> 00:22:22,666 pornographic photos of young Japanese women 486 00:22:22,666 --> 00:22:26,600 he had convinced to come and work on his ranch years prior, 487 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:28,433 along with shrines of the women 488 00:22:28,433 --> 00:22:31,166 and videos of them flexing their muscles. 489 00:22:31,166 --> 00:22:32,800 Another woman who ended up on the ranch 490 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:34,966 found the exact same materials 491 00:22:34,966 --> 00:22:37,366 and claimed Pat would talk at length about 492 00:22:37,366 --> 00:22:40,233 how fond he was of Asian women. 493 00:22:40,233 --> 00:22:42,200 The most harrowing stories were of a woman 494 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:45,200 who survived time alone at Pat's horse ranch, 495 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:47,833 but said, when they expressed their desire to leave, 496 00:22:47,833 --> 00:22:49,266 he would argue against it 497 00:22:49,266 --> 00:22:52,533 and sometimes offer to take the woman on, quote, 498 00:22:52,533 --> 00:22:55,933 "one final horse ride" in the dead of night, 499 00:22:55,933 --> 00:22:57,566 in the dead of winter. 500 00:22:57,566 --> 00:23:00,933 These women claim that had they given into Pat's requests, 501 00:23:00,933 --> 00:23:03,233 they would no longer be alive. 502 00:23:03,233 --> 00:23:05,666 One of Pat's full-time stable hands, 503 00:23:05,666 --> 00:23:07,733 a man under the moniker of Richard 504 00:23:07,733 --> 00:23:10,533 who was also reported to engage inappropriately 505 00:23:10,533 --> 00:23:12,033 with female visitors, 506 00:23:12,033 --> 00:23:14,566 acting like a ringleader in getting young women 507 00:23:14,566 --> 00:23:16,266 to be alone with his boss. 508 00:23:16,266 --> 00:23:19,066 We visited Pat's Facebook page for his ranch 509 00:23:19,066 --> 00:23:21,566 and on a photo of this supposed Richard, 510 00:23:21,566 --> 00:23:22,766 a commenter wrote. 511 00:23:22,766 --> 00:23:23,600 Quote, 512 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:27,666 "So you're the guy who thinks Pat is a nice normal guy. 513 00:23:27,666 --> 00:23:30,200 Eh, you must be just a sick. 514 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:31,266 I've informed the police 515 00:23:31,266 --> 00:23:32,966 about this site and the blog, 516 00:23:32,966 --> 00:23:35,166 and the fact that the name changes 517 00:23:35,166 --> 00:23:36,000 you must be the boy 518 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:39,366 who goes to Edmonton and picks the girl out with him 519 00:23:39,366 --> 00:23:41,166 and talks to them into going there. 520 00:23:41,166 --> 00:23:44,133 What part of that do you think is okay?" 521 00:23:44,133 --> 00:23:46,833 The most curious story in relation to Amber, however, 522 00:23:46,833 --> 00:23:50,000 came five years ago in a woman's testimonial 523 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:52,966 about how she and her friend went to work on Pat's ranch 524 00:23:52,966 --> 00:23:54,333 when she was 19, 525 00:23:54,333 --> 00:23:56,766 in order to earn a little extra cash. 526 00:23:56,766 --> 00:24:00,100 This is an excerpt from her story. 527 00:24:00,100 --> 00:24:00,933 Quote 528 00:24:00,933 --> 00:24:03,666 "He often brought up people who had stayed with him before 529 00:24:03,666 --> 00:24:07,133 and all of them had left suddenly and maybe unexpectedly 530 00:24:07,133 --> 00:24:08,333 as the days went on, 531 00:24:08,333 --> 00:24:10,066 his welcoming nature began to give way 532 00:24:10,066 --> 00:24:12,766 to a very temperamental and aggressive one. 533 00:24:12,766 --> 00:24:16,133 I didn't really find him creepy, but intolerable. 534 00:24:16,133 --> 00:24:17,466 I didn't like him at all. 535 00:24:17,466 --> 00:24:20,033 He seemed extremely socially inept 536 00:24:20,033 --> 00:24:22,166 and said inappropriate things. 537 00:24:22,166 --> 00:24:24,000 It was also extremely apparent 538 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:25,333 that he did not view women 539 00:24:25,333 --> 00:24:28,966 as equal or anywhere near equal to men. 540 00:24:28,966 --> 00:24:30,833 One day he told us to get in the truck 541 00:24:30,833 --> 00:24:32,666 because we were going to the city. 542 00:24:32,666 --> 00:24:34,133 We were way out in the country, 543 00:24:34,133 --> 00:24:35,566 so it was a long ride, 544 00:24:35,566 --> 00:24:37,800 but he was really excited about going. 545 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:39,233 He asked us to walk around 546 00:24:39,233 --> 00:24:40,366 and ask young people to come 547 00:24:40,366 --> 00:24:42,133 and work for those on the ranch. 548 00:24:42,133 --> 00:24:44,366 This made us super uncomfortable. 549 00:24:44,366 --> 00:24:45,433 We were introverts 550 00:24:45,433 --> 00:24:47,666 and just felt very odd to approach people 551 00:24:47,666 --> 00:24:49,433 and ask them to get in the truck. 552 00:24:49,433 --> 00:24:51,866 He got upset by our disapproval. 553 00:24:51,866 --> 00:24:55,066 So we got out and pretended to look for people to talk to. 554 00:24:55,066 --> 00:24:57,766 He also went to talk to people on his own." 555 00:24:57,766 --> 00:24:59,566 The reason this sticks out so much 556 00:24:59,566 --> 00:25:00,966 in relation to Amber's death 557 00:25:00,966 --> 00:25:02,800 is the confirmation that both Pat 558 00:25:03,733 --> 00:25:04,933 and his suspicious stable hand 559 00:25:04,933 --> 00:25:07,066 are both known for driving around town, 560 00:25:07,066 --> 00:25:09,266 looking for young women, 561 00:25:09,266 --> 00:25:10,600 offering money and monetary help 562 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:12,633 in exchange for their services. 563 00:25:12,633 --> 00:25:13,966 Notice the Pat also 564 00:25:13,966 --> 00:25:16,366 referenced to traveling into the city, 565 00:25:16,366 --> 00:25:18,933 of verbiage mirroring what the mysterious man 566 00:25:18,933 --> 00:25:21,866 in Amber's phone call told her before her death. 567 00:25:21,866 --> 00:25:23,766 Throw in the criminal record 568 00:25:23,766 --> 00:25:26,600 and the predatory behavior and bizarre actions 569 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:28,966 towards women of different ethnicities, 570 00:25:28,966 --> 00:25:30,833 and it's safe to say, Pat Carson 571 00:25:30,833 --> 00:25:35,466 fits the profile of a disturbed and dangerous individual. 572 00:25:35,466 --> 00:25:36,433 This being said, 573 00:25:36,433 --> 00:25:41,400 the RCMP did clear him of any wrongdoing in Amber's case, 574 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:43,166 not only this, but some women 575 00:25:43,166 --> 00:25:44,300 who visited the ranch 576 00:25:44,300 --> 00:25:46,133 and shared their stories of terror 577 00:25:46,133 --> 00:25:47,700 remarked on Amber's case that 578 00:25:47,700 --> 00:25:51,200 the voice in her phone recording didn't sound like Pat's. 579 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:52,866 At least in their opinion, 580 00:25:52,866 --> 00:25:55,033 there are arguments on both sides, 581 00:25:55,033 --> 00:25:58,266 but theorists refuse to drop Pat as a suspect 582 00:25:58,266 --> 00:26:01,800 until a more in-depth investigation is carried out. 583 00:26:02,733 --> 00:26:05,100 Some also theorized that Richard, 584 00:26:05,100 --> 00:26:07,066 the stable hand could be the voice 585 00:26:07,066 --> 00:26:08,966 on the Tuccaro phone call. 586 00:26:08,966 --> 00:26:12,133 Perhaps picking up Amber in one of his runs through the city 587 00:26:12,133 --> 00:26:15,166 to convince people to come to the ranch. 588 00:26:15,166 --> 00:26:16,400 Another prominent theory, 589 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,733 one raised by Tootsi Tuccaro herself 590 00:26:18,733 --> 00:26:20,900 is that Amber was the victim of a serial killer, 591 00:26:20,900 --> 00:26:24,200 still at large in the Leduc County area in Canada. 592 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:25,600 This theory stems from 593 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,233 multiple missing person reports of women 594 00:26:28,233 --> 00:26:32,033 posted throughout the county between 2000 and 2010. 595 00:26:32,033 --> 00:26:35,533 Four of these cases ended up as unsolved homicides 596 00:26:35,533 --> 00:26:37,900 when remains of four different young girls 597 00:26:37,900 --> 00:26:41,366 were discovered on multiple rural properties near Leduc. 598 00:26:41,366 --> 00:26:44,933 The first three victims were all last seen in Edmonton 599 00:26:44,933 --> 00:26:48,533 in April of 2003 and May of 2004. 600 00:26:48,533 --> 00:26:51,766 The first body was found in July of 2004, 601 00:26:51,766 --> 00:26:55,266 but two others weren't found until April of 2015. 602 00:26:55,266 --> 00:26:58,700 All four ladies were found in an eight kilometer radius 603 00:26:58,700 --> 00:27:01,900 suggesting that their killer could be the same person. 604 00:27:01,900 --> 00:27:04,033 There isn't much more evidence 605 00:27:04,033 --> 00:27:06,266 than only a pattern of gender and burial locations, 606 00:27:06,266 --> 00:27:07,600 but it does make one wonder 607 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:10,233 if there's a more sinister scheme 608 00:27:10,233 --> 00:27:11,800 happening in Leduc County. 609 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:12,633 In addition, 610 00:27:12,633 --> 00:27:15,266 you may remember us covering the Highway of Tears 611 00:27:15,266 --> 00:27:17,833 in a previous video earlier in 2020, 612 00:27:17,833 --> 00:27:20,800 about the 750 kilometer stretch of road 613 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:23,233 from Prince George to Prince Rupert, Canada, 614 00:27:23,233 --> 00:27:26,566 in which countless women and children have gone missing 615 00:27:26,566 --> 00:27:29,700 or been murdered without any explanation. 616 00:27:29,700 --> 00:27:31,966 Many of the women parts of the Highway of Tears 617 00:27:31,966 --> 00:27:36,033 are indigenous and fits similar profiles of Amber Tuccaro. 618 00:27:36,033 --> 00:27:39,333 While Amber's murder is another 750 kilometers away 619 00:27:39,333 --> 00:27:41,100 from the highway's original mapping, 620 00:27:41,100 --> 00:27:42,600 it does make one wonder 621 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:44,033 if there was a murder of targeting 622 00:27:44,033 --> 00:27:46,466 that specific stretch of road, 623 00:27:46,466 --> 00:27:48,566 could they have expanded their territory 624 00:27:48,566 --> 00:27:51,900 in the hopes to throw investigators off their sense, 625 00:27:51,900 --> 00:27:54,566 or did they worry about leaving behind too many clues 626 00:27:54,566 --> 00:27:56,900 in the same area and move Westwood 627 00:27:56,900 --> 00:27:59,866 to try and randomize their spree of terror. 628 00:27:59,866 --> 00:28:01,800 These are all legitimate questions 629 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:03,900 with a complete lack of answers. 630 00:28:03,900 --> 00:28:05,333 Without a doubt, however, 631 00:28:05,333 --> 00:28:09,133 there could be a connection in both sets of circumstances, 632 00:28:09,133 --> 00:28:12,333 a connection in the mistreatment and inherent racism 633 00:28:12,333 --> 00:28:15,700 against indigenous peoples across all of Canada. 634 00:28:15,700 --> 00:28:17,400 There is certainly a sad trend 635 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,266 in the Highway of Tears cases, 636 00:28:19,266 --> 00:28:20,833 and Amber's own profile 637 00:28:20,833 --> 00:28:24,166 is just a microcosm of a bigger issue. 638 00:28:24,166 --> 00:28:27,033 While that may not be one specific or physical killer 639 00:28:27,033 --> 00:28:29,466 sabotaging all these women and children, 640 00:28:29,466 --> 00:28:33,000 it could be a similar modus operandi and mindset 641 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:34,300 that these women are dying 642 00:28:34,300 --> 00:28:37,700 at the hands of prejudice and nationalistic evil. 643 00:28:37,700 --> 00:28:40,166 Groups that tout these awful ways of thinking and living 644 00:28:40,166 --> 00:28:42,166 could be the targets of investigation 645 00:28:42,166 --> 00:28:44,400 and it's completely plausible that Amber was 646 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:45,833 a victim of a hate crime 647 00:28:45,833 --> 00:28:48,500 or somebody who simply wanted to take advantage 648 00:28:48,500 --> 00:28:50,833 of an indigenous female. 649 00:28:50,833 --> 00:28:53,566 The final theory of prominence highlights the lack of effort 650 00:28:53,566 --> 00:28:56,900 given by the RCMP and fellow investigators 651 00:28:56,900 --> 00:28:58,633 during the height of Amber's case, 652 00:28:58,633 --> 00:29:00,633 specifically in the beginning. 653 00:29:00,633 --> 00:29:02,666 Remember that when Tootsi 654 00:29:02,666 --> 00:29:03,833 first called in her daughter missing, 655 00:29:03,833 --> 00:29:05,666 the police literally told her 656 00:29:05,666 --> 00:29:07,366 it wasn't going to be an issue 657 00:29:07,366 --> 00:29:10,766 that Amber would return her calls after a night of partying, 658 00:29:10,766 --> 00:29:12,633 they had absolutely zero pretense 659 00:29:12,633 --> 00:29:14,633 to make such a clumsy assumption, 660 00:29:14,633 --> 00:29:16,066 and it could have been the decision 661 00:29:16,066 --> 00:29:17,966 that cost Amber her life. 662 00:29:17,966 --> 00:29:18,900 Not only this, 663 00:29:18,900 --> 00:29:21,466 but the Tuccaro family claimed frequent mishaps 664 00:29:21,466 --> 00:29:23,933 by the police during their daughter's trial, 665 00:29:23,933 --> 00:29:27,533 citing a lack of efforts and inconclusive briefings. 666 00:29:27,533 --> 00:29:31,033 Even the people calling in leads to the authorities, 667 00:29:31,033 --> 00:29:33,066 such as the three unidentified women 668 00:29:33,066 --> 00:29:34,866 who dropped Pat Carson's name 669 00:29:34,866 --> 00:29:36,966 felt the inspectors weren't doing enough 670 00:29:36,966 --> 00:29:38,966 to justify their findings. 671 00:29:38,966 --> 00:29:40,866 Thus, theorists speculate 672 00:29:40,866 --> 00:29:42,833 Amber's disappearance and homicide 673 00:29:42,833 --> 00:29:46,233 might've been somehow related to law enforcements, 674 00:29:46,233 --> 00:29:47,666 perhaps committed by someone 675 00:29:47,666 --> 00:29:49,766 under the protection of the police. 676 00:29:49,766 --> 00:29:51,633 Perhaps as some argue, 677 00:29:51,633 --> 00:29:54,766 this all connects back to the overall racism issue, 678 00:29:54,766 --> 00:29:57,366 indigenous people face in Canada, 679 00:29:57,366 --> 00:30:00,400 living on reservations and dealing with jurisdiction issues 680 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:01,400 across the country, 681 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:03,333 cases involving tribal members 682 00:30:03,333 --> 00:30:06,066 are often swept under the rug and forgotten about, 683 00:30:06,066 --> 00:30:09,400 or simply never even attempted to be solved at all. 684 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:10,800 Even if Amber's murder isn't 685 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:12,766 that of law enforcement corruption, 686 00:30:12,766 --> 00:30:14,966 it could definitely be the results of higher-ups 687 00:30:14,966 --> 00:30:16,466 choosing to ignore her 688 00:30:16,466 --> 00:30:20,000 due to her background as an indigenous individual. 689 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,100 It is a heartbreaking thoughts, 690 00:30:22,100 --> 00:30:24,733 but also a story that we are all too familiar with 691 00:30:24,733 --> 00:30:28,566 in many cases in Canada and around North America. 692 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:33,000 (suspenseful music) 693 00:30:34,066 --> 00:30:35,066 Before we divulge 694 00:30:35,066 --> 00:30:38,400 our hypothesis of Amber Tuccaro's unsolved death, 695 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:40,666 we want to make known that our conclusions presented 696 00:30:40,666 --> 00:30:42,100 in Cold Case Detective 697 00:30:42,100 --> 00:30:44,400 are purely logical speculation 698 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:48,400 based on evidence, circumstance and factual subtext. 699 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:50,433 We are only privy to the same information 700 00:30:50,433 --> 00:30:52,400 presented in each video, 701 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:55,500 and we do not promise certainty or an expert guarantee 702 00:30:55,500 --> 00:30:57,766 on the findings we reach in closing, 703 00:30:57,766 --> 00:31:01,366 we simply observe, research and report. 704 00:31:01,366 --> 00:31:02,400 In the case of Amber, 705 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,833 we believe she was ultimately taken advantage of 706 00:31:04,833 --> 00:31:09,033 by a predatory man seeking to harm innocent young women, 707 00:31:09,033 --> 00:31:11,166 whether it was a one of circumstance 708 00:31:11,166 --> 00:31:12,866 or the act of a serial killer 709 00:31:12,866 --> 00:31:14,533 can not be said for certain, 710 00:31:14,533 --> 00:31:15,733 but without a doubt, 711 00:31:15,733 --> 00:31:18,866 some sick individual was out praying on 712 00:31:18,866 --> 00:31:20,566 unsuspecting subjects. 713 00:31:20,566 --> 00:31:23,700 And sadly, Amber fell victim that evening. 714 00:31:23,700 --> 00:31:25,900 Maybe she was attempting to go into the city 715 00:31:25,900 --> 00:31:27,966 or simply just trying to make some extra cash 716 00:31:27,966 --> 00:31:29,400 for the next day's adventure. 717 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:32,366 Regardless, she didn't hitchhike without a reason, 718 00:31:32,366 --> 00:31:34,533 and wouldn't go down without a fight, 719 00:31:34,533 --> 00:31:37,333 which is probably why she ended up where she did. 720 00:31:37,333 --> 00:31:39,200 It's important to remember that her remnants 721 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:40,866 were discovered on a patch of land, 722 00:31:40,866 --> 00:31:44,633 about 17 minutes away from her last known activity 723 00:31:44,633 --> 00:31:45,700 at the motel, 724 00:31:45,700 --> 00:31:48,366 almost the exact same length of her phone call 725 00:31:48,366 --> 00:31:49,400 with her brother. 726 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:52,500 Tootsie Tuccaro who had listened to the entire recording 727 00:31:52,500 --> 00:31:55,166 has stated her daughter sounded happy and normal 728 00:31:55,166 --> 00:31:56,933 at the beginning of the conversation, 729 00:31:56,933 --> 00:31:57,900 but by the end, 730 00:31:57,900 --> 00:32:01,833 she was onto her driver's dishonesty and potential danger. 731 00:32:01,833 --> 00:32:04,966 She says the call ended abruptly leading us to believe 732 00:32:04,966 --> 00:32:08,400 that the 17-minute call ended right before her murder, 733 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:10,466 where she was either buried immediately 734 00:32:10,466 --> 00:32:12,966 or brought back to the scene later into the night 735 00:32:12,966 --> 00:32:14,233 by her killer. 736 00:32:15,133 --> 00:32:18,766 Just who the perpetrator was, cannot be said for certain, 737 00:32:18,766 --> 00:32:21,233 what we do know is he is a master manipulator 738 00:32:21,233 --> 00:32:23,433 and familiar with the Edmonton area. 739 00:32:23,433 --> 00:32:25,300 During the phone call, one can hear him 740 00:32:25,300 --> 00:32:27,233 feeding false directions to Amber 741 00:32:27,233 --> 00:32:29,433 saying they were headed in the direction of town 742 00:32:29,433 --> 00:32:32,166 when really they were on another road headed south 743 00:32:32,166 --> 00:32:34,400 on country pathways made of gravel 744 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,166 and nowhere near the city like she'd asked. 745 00:32:37,166 --> 00:32:39,600 The landmarks he mentions are all correct 746 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:41,366 but jumbled in a way to convince Amber 747 00:32:41,366 --> 00:32:43,666 he is doing what she wants long enough 748 00:32:43,666 --> 00:32:45,700 before the confusion sets in. 749 00:32:45,700 --> 00:32:48,200 The man knew what he was up to all along. 750 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,000 And as things stand now, 751 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:53,766 his evil doing still exists somewhere out in the world, 752 00:32:53,766 --> 00:32:55,500 potentially harming others 753 00:32:55,500 --> 00:32:59,566 like he harmed Amber and the entire Tuccaro family. 754 00:32:59,566 --> 00:33:02,600 Most disheartening of all is that this case is 755 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:05,800 just one in an infinite pool of unsolved missing 756 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:08,366 and murdered indigenous women in both Canada 757 00:33:08,366 --> 00:33:10,433 and all across North America. 758 00:33:10,433 --> 00:33:13,800 It is an absolute catastrophe how these real human beings 759 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:15,366 and their families are forgotten 760 00:33:15,366 --> 00:33:17,533 cast away without a second thoughts 761 00:33:17,533 --> 00:33:19,133 or a drop of empathy. 762 00:33:19,133 --> 00:33:21,900 They had dreams and aspirations and goals that 763 00:33:21,900 --> 00:33:24,666 could have changed the world for the better. 764 00:33:24,666 --> 00:33:26,966 So why are they ripped from society and forgotten 765 00:33:26,966 --> 00:33:28,466 in the blink of an eye? 766 00:33:28,466 --> 00:33:32,300 It's a real world tragedy that must be stopped immediately 767 00:33:32,300 --> 00:33:33,533 with awareness spread, 768 00:33:33,533 --> 00:33:36,400 to hopefully stop the never-ending chaos. 769 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:39,533 With jurisdiction disputes and lack of funding and resources 770 00:33:39,533 --> 00:33:42,033 given to indigenous people on their reservations, 771 00:33:42,033 --> 00:33:44,666 they begin the race a step behind, 772 00:33:44,666 --> 00:33:47,433 but just by sharing these stories by alerting 773 00:33:47,433 --> 00:33:49,566 governments and authorities of any information 774 00:33:49,566 --> 00:33:51,866 you may have to solve cold cases, 775 00:33:51,866 --> 00:33:53,833 and by telling others of the injustices 776 00:33:53,833 --> 00:33:55,733 these women and children face, 777 00:33:55,733 --> 00:33:59,266 we can maybe maybe help deliver the compassion, 778 00:33:59,266 --> 00:34:00,833 hope and justice. 779 00:34:00,833 --> 00:34:03,833 The native tribes across North America, 780 00:34:03,833 --> 00:34:05,700 not only need but deserve. 781 00:34:05,700 --> 00:34:08,533 In terms of Amber Tuccaro, we will not remember her 782 00:34:08,533 --> 00:34:10,300 as another number in a database 783 00:34:10,300 --> 00:34:12,333 or a folder in a filing cabinet, 784 00:34:12,333 --> 00:34:14,600 but as a strong and courageous fighter, 785 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:17,566 a devoted friend and caring family member, 786 00:34:17,566 --> 00:34:21,100 a loving daughter, sister, mother, and aunt. 787 00:34:21,100 --> 00:34:24,266 We will remember her dedication to serving those in need. 788 00:34:24,266 --> 00:34:28,500 Her passion for music and pure desire to make others happy. 789 00:34:28,500 --> 00:34:31,066 Amber Tuccaro's life may have been stolen from her 790 00:34:31,066 --> 00:34:34,500 in a mindless murder on August 18th, 2010, 791 00:34:34,500 --> 00:34:39,033 but her memory, her voice and her spirits lives on. 792 00:34:39,033 --> 00:34:41,166 If you have any information regarding 793 00:34:41,166 --> 00:34:43,000 the unidentified man's voice 794 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,833 or the final days Amber was last seen alive, 795 00:34:45,833 --> 00:34:47,866 please contact crime stoppers 796 00:34:47,866 --> 00:34:49,366 at 1-800 797 00:34:49,366 --> 00:34:51,066 222 798 00:34:51,066 --> 00:34:52,066 8477. 799 00:34:52,933 --> 00:34:55,500 This is Cold Case Detective. 62465

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