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This programme contains
strong language.
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# Substitute your lies for fact...#
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# I can see for miles and miles
I can see for miles and miles...#
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The Who started as a band with four
very different individuals
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with very, very different needs.
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Got a few hits,
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managed to pull off Tommy,
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managed to pull off some
kind of amazing live stage energy.
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APPLAUSE AND CHEERING
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# Touch me...#
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'A special TUC conference in London
has voted...'
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'New challenges and burdens
created by the oil crisis...'
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'As the gas situation gets worse...'
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'The miners need some inducement to
come to talks...'
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'I think the three-day week should
be called off at once.'
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'Ten years on from The Who's
first successes comes the release
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'this weekend of a new double album
that could be a step on,
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'even from Tommy, Quadrophenia.'
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# Love...
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# Reign on me...#
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When we got to Quadrophenia,
talking 1973,
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something strange was happening to
the internal politics of the band.
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It was quite clear that Keith Moon
was certifiably insane
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and that if he hadn't had a drum kit
to play with, he probably would have
ended up in jail.
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John Entwistle simply wasn't happy
because he was a songwriter,
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and it seemed as though for him,
the band had come all about me
and my ideas.
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Roger wanted something which meant
he could swing his hair
and looked glamorous
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and take his chest off
and be a superstar.
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I had difficulties as well.
Lifehouse, which followed Tommy,
failed.
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The accusation was, "You failed
with your big idea
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"because you're an arty-farty
pretentious twat."
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It felt, to me,
as though we were drifting apart.
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So my first mission,
my first part of the brief that
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I gave myself was replace Tommy as
a performing vehicle, that was it.
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# I don't mind
other guys dancing with my girl
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# That's fine
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# I know them all pretty well...#
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# Is it me for a moment...
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# For a moment, for a moment... #
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So my story was, I'd bought this
riverside property out...
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It's actually in a place
called Cleeve on the River Thames.
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One day I got this call
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about Eric who was wallowing
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down in his house in the country,
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and would I go down and see Eric?
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Eric had done an album
and ended up as a heroin user.
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I remember going down and seeing
him. He was very courteous, very
kind, very dignified, very loving,
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very friendly
as he always was to me.
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But I was affected by it.
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I start to think about how we can...
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..Not rescue Eric,
but just to kind of stimulate him.
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I turned to a couple of my mates,
Ronnie Wood, Stevie Winwood
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and we came here,
to this house, to rehearse.
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And we were in the room over there
and we all gathered together.
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I was nodding off and Rick the bass
player said, "Try this." I said,
"What is it?"
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He said it is
a kind of a popper thing,
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he said, it wakes you up,
and it was amyl nitrate.
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And I took it and I went, "Oh,
that's fun, a bit of a buzz,"
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and then played. I did not get stuck
on it but I used it quite a bit.
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Once the concert with Eric
in January 1973 was over, I suppose
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I must have had some sort of come
down from the lack of amyl nitrate.
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On a dark, wet winter
weekend at the cottage at Cleeve,
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with the river running
faster than usual,
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I had a flashback to
when I was 19 years old.
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The Who had just played this
amazing gig at the Aquarium Ballroom
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in Brighton and I was
with my art school friend Des Reed.
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After the gig
we missed the train home.
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So we hung out
and we went down under the pier
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and there were all these boys
in parkas
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with the fucking tide
coming up around their feet.
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They didn't seem to understand
that they were going to drown!
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Under the pier, I was coming
down from taking purple hearts,
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the fashionable uppers
of the period.
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Sitting there at Cleeve,
that day nine years later,
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that same feeling came flooding back
of feeling depressed,
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lost and hopeless
and I grabbed a notebook.
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Quickly when I was still in this
sad and lonely mood,
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I scribbled out the story that is
on the inside sleeve of the original
album of Quadrophenia.
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This was the story of a mod
called Jimmy.
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Jimmy was a normal boy, with normal
needs, passing through the normal
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things of childhood, but what made
everything so much more complicated
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for him was he had a bipolar
problem, he was schizophrenic.
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I think that Jimmy is meant to be,
instead of schizophrenic,
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he is meant to be quadrophrenic,
and that is the original concept,
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to have Jimmy have these four
personalities.
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So Quadrophenia was a double-album,
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in the old days of vinyl that meant
you had two 12 inch vinyl discs.
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And it's that difficult,
dodgy '70s thing, the concept album.
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A sensitive story of a mod
on a journey of self-discovery,
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but played by The Who - tough,
muscular, physical, a man's band.
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What I know is that I'm going to
be on a stage
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with a bunch of yobbos
with an electric guitar.
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I'm going to have to turn it up, I'm
going to have to jump up and down,
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I'm going to have to tell them
to fuck off and shut up.
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This is Pete, the writer, trying to
serve Keith and John and Roger,
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giving them really
stimulating, useful
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fucking stuff that they can express
their stage personalities through.
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The Who's sound has got those
warring elements in it.
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On the one hand they are
a street fighting band,
doing all that physical,
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visceral side on the one hand,
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on the other hand that spiritual,
whimsical,
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melancholic lyrical side and banging
them together, often in one song.
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This bit of paper is kind of,
on the top line you've got me,
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Roger, John, Keith.
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The next line is good, bad, romance.
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They are joined together with
the word sex, insanity.
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The idea that each of these themes
would produce songs.
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In actual fact, this is just
a musical blueprint for what
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I wanted to do.
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Pete, you know,
is working very hard.
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I don't know quite what on but...
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You know, I think it'll be good.
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The trouble is with Pete,
working with him,
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he had these wonderful little
kernels of ideas
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but then he would want to pitch them
and make them into stories.
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But we got the essence of it.
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This guy's got all the personalities
of every member in the band
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and it's just one guy.
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And that was enough for me to say,
"Great idea, let's go for it."
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This is how the album starts, OK.
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WAVES CRASH
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No other Who album starts with
ambient noise.
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And it very specifically
is putting you in a place,
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it sets a scene, which
none of the other Who albums did.
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Once we had the sea noise going,
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we just introduced each
theme of the four themes.
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The first thing you hear
is I Am The Sea,
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the breathy sound of,
"I am the sea."
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And do-dee-do-do-do, which is
the Helpless Dancer.
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Then you hear, is it me for a
moment, which is the romantic side
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and so on.
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# Is it me, for a moment
For a moment, for a moment...#
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Instead of having
a straight overture,
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you get pieces of the songs
and it comes back as memories.
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# Bellboy, bellboy...#
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You're automatically put
on that rock.
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# Love...
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# Reign o'er me. #
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And you hear the themes and then
bang into the first track which is,
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Can You See The Real Me?
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# Can you see the real me, can ya?
Can ya? #
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He's at the doctor,
he's going to the shrink,
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he's going to the priest,
he's going to his mother for advice,
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and I wanted to establish
very, very quickly
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that this is not just a troubled
boy, this is a boy that has
mental illness.
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He's bipolar
or he's manic-depressive.
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And this idea of him being,
you know, doubly schizophrenic.
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# I went back to my mother
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# I said, I'm crazy, ma, help me
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# She said, I know how it feels, son
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# Cos it runs in the family
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# Can you see the real me, mother,
mother?
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# Can you see the real me, mother
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# Whoa, Mama... #
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Once you hear that track,
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you know that this is going to be
the revelation of a condition.
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Jimmy gets up in the morning,
goes to see his shrink,
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goes to see his priest because his
mum is a deep, dark Catholic.
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Goes to look up at this girl's
bedroom that he's in love with
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who won't shag him.
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# The cracks between
the paving stones
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# Like rivers of flowing veins... #
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You're going right inside the boy's
head. You know where you are,
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you've come from the peace
of the sea,
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and the idea that this is
a little bit of this,
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and a little bit of that and then,
bang, you're into the action.
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# Lives in this yellow house
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# Yesterday she passed me by
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# She doesn't
want to know me now... #
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When I first heard it,
a friend of mine had it and they had
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the gatefold sleeve and everything
and I loved it, but it was
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quite costly, so they recorded it
for me on what was back then a C90.
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I remember for ages thinking that
he'd started on side two
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because it begins with
"I went back to the doctor."
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It's like you've jumped right into
the middle of the stream,
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you've come right into the middle
of the ride,
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come right into the middle of
a rush, and that is brilliant.
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# Can you see the real me, mother?
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# Can you see the real me,
me, me, me, me,
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me, me, me, me, me m-m-me....#
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1, 2, 3, 4...
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Pete decided that as part
of the album, he'd have this lavish,
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very generous big photo book to
illustrate the story and also,
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the other thing is I think he
thought it would help explain
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the story, particularly to the
Americans who didn't understand it.
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Ethan Russell's photos
put you in that place.
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As an American,
you were able to understand
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because you were able to see it,
you were able to see his room,
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you saw the life and it told you
the story better than a movie,
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better than a video. It's all there.
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The first cover I did for The Who
was the album Who's Next, here.
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I was back in the United States.
I got a call from Pete.
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He was pretty stressed already
because he'd been
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working on this forever
and you could feel this tremendous
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energy of him sort of wanting to
birth this thing, you know.
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So he played me the material
and he told me the story.
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And we went out to try
and sort of build that world.
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We're here in Battersea in
the Patmore Estate.
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My sister Maxine and I used to
live across the road here,
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in this block of flats here.
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Our foster sister Jane used to
live in this block of flats here
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and the three of us
used to hang out,
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generally around on that
corner block there.
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Along here,
which used to be a church hall,
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became Ramport Studios
which was owned by The Who,
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back in the early '70s.
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This is myself here. I would have
been just coming up to 15.
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That was an original mod outfit.
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I had my hair cut very short
and cropped and black eyeliner,
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which you can't see through
the black and white picture.
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That's me.
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And I've got on a pencil skirt,
a pinstripe pencil skirt,
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Hush Puppy shoes
and a navy blue twinset,
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little jumper underneath,
a cardigan and like Julie,
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my hair cut very short,
mod-style haircut.
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The girls came up,
too young to go in the pub
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but they knew that I was
looking for someone to play Jimmy.
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Chad was one of the local guys
that lived near the pub.
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We thought he had the look for
the main character of Quadrophenia
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so we introduced him to Georgiana.
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I saw the attitude.
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I saw the class and the attitude
and the sort of, you know..
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..his wheels were spinning a bit,
you know.
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And he was the real thing. He had
love-hate tattooed on his hands.
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Pretty early on in life for that,
you know.
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He was often in bed.
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They would have to go and get him
up at the flats, I remember that.
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Because he'd had too much to drink,
or maybe drugs,
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I don't know what,
I won't swear that either,
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but he was often not on location
when he was supposed to be.
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About two thirds through the shoot
Chad came up to me and says,
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"I've got to go to court."
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I said what have you got to go to
court for? He said, "I stole a bus."
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And I said, "You stole a bus?" And he
said "Yes, I stole a bus."
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I said, "OK."
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He walks up to the judge and the
judge says, "What did you do?"
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He said, "I took her for a drive."
I can't do the accent.
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He said, "what are you doing now?"
He says, "I'm a male model."
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And I'm sitting in the back,
and he says, "Who do work for?"
"I work for The 'Oo."
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And the judge turns to me and says,
"Is this true?" And I said, "Yes."
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He says, "You need him?" And I said,
"Yes, absolutely I need him."
So he let him off.
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Pete always had this thing about
mods, even before they were mods.
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I like to be subsumed in a gang.
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And so I love that feeling of being
safe in the mod movement.
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I felt safer in a gang of mods
than I did in the band,
I can tell you that!
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There was this
hierarchical structure.
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At the top you would have
these top faces.
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These were the mods that really
looked really smart
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and seemed to be able to afford
new suits a lot.
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There were the numbers
and there was tickets.
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The tickets were the little kids.
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The one that I came across
was Seven And Sixers,
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and I never knew why they were called
Seven And Sixers and it was cos
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the T-shirts they wore were
seven and six in Woolworths.
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What will the well-dressed mod
be wearing this Whit weekend?
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I will be wearing white hipster
slacks or blue hipster slacks
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with either a cycling shirt,
a zip here and stripes across there,
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mainly with white ground
or a blue ground.
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Or a T-shirt with a large
emblem on the front or back.
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Roger talks about the mod movement
only happening
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because in those days, '62, '63, '64,
a young man could get a job.
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We were the first generation to have
money and creative energy because
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previous to that everybody had been
slaving to pay the bloody bills.
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And living on the ration book.
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To be a face, you had to go out
to work. You couldn't be a face
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if you're a school kid because you
didn't have enough money to buy
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the scooter, to pay for the petrol
to pay for the girlfriends
and the burgers and the drinks.
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The mods were hard-working
youngsters
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and it was all about spending
your money on clothes.
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ARCHIVE: A new booming outfitting
business both meets and creates
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the mod demand for elegance
in a young man.
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This shop now has 18 branches
in London
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and a turnover of
half a million a year.
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They'd see Italian students
and kids over here on holiday
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in central London
and were admiring their clothes
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and saying, "Look at the cut on their
clothes." Stuff that we didn't have.
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I don't like red on you anyway.
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From all these different elements
emerged this sort of movement
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with its strict rules that were
never written down
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but they seemed to understand them.
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That's a very mod neck.
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That rollneck's all right,
a suede front, it's different.
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That's true, yeah. This is great,
I like this. It's fabulous.
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If I left a deposit for that, John,
can I come back next week?
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Yeah, certainly. Is that OK?
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That's not yours, my love.
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If you saw a teddy boy,
you'd know he was a teddy boy
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but if you saw a mod, your mods could
work in an advertising agency,
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no-one would know they were mods.
They just looked like a neat kid.
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But to other mods,
they gave all the signals.
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Maybe a slightly effeminate kid
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and that's where
I thought the real courage came.
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They used to do their own sewing
and stuff.
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These great big guys would say,
"I'll take in those trousers!"
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Roger made drainpipes
and put the zips in himself!
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He put zips in drainpipes!
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It was perfect because for the first
time in generations
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you dressed as you wanted to
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and at work you probably were
a shipping clerk or a filing clerk.
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You were management material.
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And you got, "Oh, he's a very tidy
young man,
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"he's going up the ladder, mate."
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Mods had real strict taste rules
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and it was difficult to know
what was in, and what was out.
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I remember people talking
about the way to stand outside
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the Scene Club, you had to stand
with your hand in your pocket...
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All these sort of ways
to maintain your cool.
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My hair was a disaster. I hated it.
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When I looked in the mirror,
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I saw somebody like Art Garfunkel.
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Roger had exactly the same problem.
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He was constantly
straightening his hair. Dippity-do.
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Dippity-do. He found this American
gel that would straighten your hair
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long enough to get through a gig.
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And I think the main driving force
then was fashion.
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But then it became the music
and the other things.
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And the other thing is you've to put
it in context of the time,
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it was like people identifying
with this new, modern, clean world.
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This is Cut My Hair, it's like the
first proper song on the album.
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The album should have started
with Cut My Hair because
that's where the story starts.
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On Cut My Hair you've got a...
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This piano part, very nursery,
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gentle piano.
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Against which you get the story
of the boy complaining about why
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he has to fuck around
with his hair basically.
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# If I have to cut my hair
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# I've got to move with the fashion
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# Or be outcast. #
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It's interesting because what
it's about is a mixture of that
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refrain when we were young
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and the hair was long which was,
"Get your hair cut!"
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And suddenly all of that being
turned on its head by
the mod movement where a face
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would turn to you and say,
"Get your hair cut."
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And you'd think, "Hold on a minute,
you're only three or four
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"years older than me, don't fucking
tell me to get my haircut!"
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# And I'm leaping along
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# I'm dressed right for a beach fight
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# But I just can't explain
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# Why that uncertain feeling is still
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# Here in my brain. #
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If you were raised in a modern
neighbourhood, you had to fit in
with those people.
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So, we sat down and had our hair cut.
Which I hated.
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It had taken me nearly a year
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to grow my Beatle fringe
down to here.
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I was taken to this guy called
Jack the barber,
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more like Sweeney Todd!
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I remember going back to my house
with Keith Moon
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and smashing the mirror in my room
because I hated it. Horrible.
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I kind of rebelled against it
went out and bought myself a jacket
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and trousers and I felt OK about it.
Except for my hair.
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# Zoot suit,
white jacket with side vents
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# Five inches long. #
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My initial reaction to it was,
"It's about me."
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The essence of Townshend's
writing is that he
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writes about the adolescent problems
and they never change
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and that's why if you take away
the mod tunic, the mod uniform,
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what you're left with is
the universal adolescent problem.
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What's happening at the very end
is he's thinking, "This is shit."
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He can't deal with it.
And at the end you get this abject
self-pity which Jimmy is...
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Falls into regularly.
This sense of, "I can't do this."
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# We have the same old row
again and again
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# Why do I have to move
with the times?
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# Of kids that hardly notice
I'm around
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# I work myself to death
just to fit in. #
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So, it sets up this thing
that starting at the beginning
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of Quadrophenia that he's
becoming disenchanted with
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the burden of being a mod,
of trying to fit in,
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of having the right shoes,
the right shirt.
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He's not getting what he wants.
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# It's all a game
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# And inside I'm just the same
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# My fried egg makes me sick
first thing in the morning. #
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ARCHIVE: ...A gang of nearly 1,000
youths entered the Grand Hotel
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in pursuit of two leather-clad
rockers.
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South Coast police have warned
that if the fight between rival
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gangs of mods and rockers continue
strict security measures will be
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in force at railway station both
in London and on the south coast.
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Brighton was just one of those
places that was popping.
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Say me and my friends went
to a dance hall once,
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there was a load of rockers there,
they were taking the mick out of us.
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You can't let a load of kids take
the Mickey out of you, can you?
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So, what do you do?
Well, you have a punch-up about it.
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What do you fight with? With fists!
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The first trouble was in Clacton.
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And afterwards I think Margate
and then it was Brighton.
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You had about 30 little mods
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versus three big rockers.
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They were all running up,
"Come on, then!" And all this stuff.
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We were posing and stuff like that.
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It's the rockers that started. They
screw you. What does screw mean?
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You know, look you up
and down and think, "That's a funny
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"way of dressing." Think you're
a poof or something like that.
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The really cool mods hated
the fact that there was this
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violence on the beach.
They hated it.
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"Bunch of wankers!
Going and fighting with rockers."
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Ha! That kind of thing.
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# As I was laying
in a hospital bed... #
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ARCHIVE: The beat they dance to
is another difference
between mods and rockers.
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At this mod club, The Chez Don,
in the East End of London
the rhythm is blue
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and strong enough to lean against.
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The mod girls dance with each other
and no-one bothers to talk
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since you can't hear yourself speak.
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Rockers don't show their faces here.
It would only lead to trouble.
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This is the famous Goldhawk club.
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I'm opening the door
to the dance hall.
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Along here and on the other side
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was a whole bunch of settees
where a lot of necking went on!
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And there was kissing and French
kissing and tongues and stuff.
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# Got a feeling inside
Can't explain
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# It's a certain kind
Can't explain
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00:27:25,360 --> 00:27:28,560
# I feel hot and cold
Can't explain
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# Yeah, down in my soul, yeah
Can't explain... #
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We'd just done Ready Steady Go,
they had been there in the audience,
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we went to the Goldhawk Club
and played Can't Explain,
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we played it again
and again and again.
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# The things you've said, well,
maybe they're true... #
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And I thought,
"God Almighty! What's going on?"
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"The Who are playing probably
my favourite song of all time."
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They've played I Can't Explain
three times, what's going on?
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# When I feel blue
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00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:03,480
# But I can't explain
Can't explain
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"Play it again, play it again!"
Dah, da-da, dah-da-da!
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You know, fucking glorious night
at the Goldhawk Club that their boys
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had gone on Ready Steady Go which was
the big mod programme of the day.
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I sort of elected myself as some
kind of delegate and I came here,
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I knocked on this door,
this very door we're looking at.
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00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:32,120
Irish Jack walks forward and says
"There's something we want
to tell you."
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I said, "Look, this song is exactly
what we're trying to say."
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You've said it for us.
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I can't explain because this is what
mods were about.
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They couldn't explain.
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None of us could explain,
we didn't have the articulation.
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So, I said to him
quite patronising, "Jack,
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"you want to be to write more
songs for you about the fact you
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00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:56,080
"can't explain what it is
you want me to explain
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00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,400
"and I can't explain what it is
you want to explain?"
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Jack immediately goes, "That's it!"
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So, in words, Pete Townshend
became the song laureate of the mods
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in Shepherd's Bush, Hammersmith,
Acton, Ealing.
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# You declared you'd be three
inches taller
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00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:41,320
# You only became what we made you. #
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00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:44,840
There's a fabulous postcard,
we're about 18/19,
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we look like perfect
little girly mods.
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That's the band that Jimmy looked at
and went, "That's me!"
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Then he goes into that band
and finds that these four people,
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each one of them is a deeply
eccentric and complex and difficult
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00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:04,480
and fucked up individual
and they're each in their own way.
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00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:06,560
# I'm the guy in the sky
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00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:08,080
# Flying high, flashing eyes
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00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,000
# No surprise I told lies
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00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:13,640
# I'm the punk in the gutter. #
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00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:15,920
All of those youth movements
are built on false idols.
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They're all built on the idea
of loving something
and never meet your idols.
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00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:23,240
There's that crushing
sense of disappointment.
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00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:26,040
They're not the people
you think they are.
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00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:38,880
This was the only time The Who
were in the entire book.
457
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:42,760
We shot about 4am in the morning
so we wouldn't have any traffic
458
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:45,960
and it was the Hammersmith Odeon,
that was the idea.
459
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:49,400
And in the story it's where Jimmy
sees The Who otherwise
460
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:51,760
they don't intersect in the story.
461
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:56,280
He's feeling inferior,
his hero's scooter is bust
462
00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:58,360
and these guys have a limo.
463
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:02,600
# I have to be careful not to preach
464
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,680
# I can't pretend that I can teach
465
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:08,880
# And yet I've lived your future out
466
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:13,360
# By pounding stages like a clown
467
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:17,360
# And on the dance floor broken glass
468
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:21,480
# And bloody faces slowly pass
469
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:25,640
# The numbered seats in empty rows
470
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:29,920
# It all belongs to me you know. #
471
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,480
OK!
472
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:40,240
There's this idea of The Who,
who had these kind of mod roots,
473
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:44,080
and they later became a great big
bloated rock band.
474
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:47,680
The distance between them
being almost '70s rock stars
475
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:52,800
and the '60s roots of what they were
is played up in this photograph.
476
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:58,000
You get this image of Jimmy,
the mod, from the 1960s, clearly,
477
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:01,320
down on one knee and out here's the
band coming out of Hammersmith Odeon
478
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:06,000
but the band appear to be like
a '70s rock band and the interesting
479
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:11,040
thing is it's the distance between
him and them, that's the time shift.
480
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,400
This is when the album is recorded,
481
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,720
this is the distance
between these two things.
482
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:18,120
It's important.
483
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,040
# I'm the guy in the sky
484
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:22,160
# Flying high, flashing eyes
485
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:24,080
# No surprise I told lies
486
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,720
# I'm the punk in the gutter. #
487
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:31,800
He just happens to pass
his ex-heroes, The Who,
488
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:37,120
and says to them, "You bunch of...
You fucking let me down."
That's all it's about.
489
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:42,440
This one song,
Punk And The Godfather, that was it.
490
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:45,400
# I don't mind
491
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:49,600
# Other guys dancing with my girl
492
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:51,720
# That's fine
493
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,720
# I know them all pretty well... #
494
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,240
# Is it me for a moment? #
495
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:07,760
Records traditionally have tracks
with gaps in between.
496
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:10,440
What Quadrophenia has
is a soundscape
497
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:15,560
and the thing it's closest to
is it's a film soundtrack.
498
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:20,680
So, between the tracks you get
the sound of Jimmy's life,
losing his bike,
499
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:22,520
losing his dirty job,
500
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:25,400
living rough on the streets alone.
501
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:32,120
The sound of the train
in the station, the whistle.
502
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:36,800
The boiling kettle and a fried egg.
503
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:40,480
In a sense,
it's using sound as music.
504
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:44,520
For sea and sand, for example,
I literally walked down a beach
505
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:47,680
with a stereo mic singing
sea and sand.
506
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:49,960
# Here by the sea and sand. #
507
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:02,040
But Quadrophenia had a sound, it
was one sound from start to finish,
508
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:04,600
and that sound was
the sound of the backing track.
509
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:07,000
TRAIN RUSHES PAST
510
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:16,680
What had happened was
the Who couldn't find a studio
that they liked,
511
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:18,840
so they said, "Let's buy a place
and build our own,"
512
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:20,400
because they had some money then,
513
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:23,400
so they found this church
in Battersea, in Thessaly Road,
Battersea.
514
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:27,800
Thessaly Road was really
a storage facility.
515
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:31,920
Pete Townshend came down one day to
see where all his guitars were.
516
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:35,960
Blimey.
517
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:39,720
I'm surprised how spacious it is.
518
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:46,920
He looked around, he gave
a click of his fingers, and he said,
519
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:49,400
"This has got good resonance."
520
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:52,360
It had, you know, a bright...
521
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:55,400
It's still got quite
a bright sound in here.
522
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:58,840
But it was brighter than this,
it was quite a bright...
523
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:00,720
And that was unusual at the time.
524
00:35:00,720 --> 00:35:04,120
Most studios in London were a little
bit deader than this one.
525
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:09,040
He said, "This would make
a bloody good studio."
526
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,840
So, I goes,
"Right, turn it into a studio."
527
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:15,600
There's a window, you can see, here,
528
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,760
just there, which would have allowed
you to see from this room...
529
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:22,280
If you are sitting down, you could
see into the control room,
530
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:26,080
which would have been there,
where the doctor's waiting room is.
531
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:30,760
The main intention was that the
control room should be quadraphonic.
532
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:34,960
There were no rooms in the UK,
or in America at the time,
533
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:38,600
that had for speakers, one in each
corner. They just weren't any.
534
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:41,520
This is an acoustic ceiling,
designed...
535
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:44,360
They're always designed like this,
with this dish,
536
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:47,400
and you can see that that would have
been one of the plinths
537
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:50,440
on which we hung one of
the quadraphonic speakers,
538
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:52,880
another one there,
another one there.
539
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:56,960
You can see that the room is
designed in a quadraphonic shape.
540
00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:00,760
The mixing desk would've been here,
tape machines there.
541
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:11,600
I had the idea to do something
in quadraphonic
542
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:14,800
before I was certain about the
story of Quadrophenia.
543
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:20,400
And the band that were doing
the most experimentation with it
544
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:23,760
were Pink Floyd, and they'd done
a couple of shows where
545
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,840
they'd introduced quadraphonic
sound into their live shows.
546
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,240
# Money...
Dum, dum, dum, dum, tchk... #
547
00:36:29,240 --> 00:36:32,080
would come out in the back right,
this great big chink,
548
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:35,960
then it would come out there,
and then it goes round and round
and round. It was very exciting.
549
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:44,720
So, we had a test unit sent over,
and Pete hated it.
550
00:36:44,720 --> 00:36:47,600
The separation wasn't...
It was like a big mono.
551
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:51,200
And Pete said, "You know,
I am not going to make
552
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:55,760
"a quadraphonic album that sounds
worse than the stereo."
553
00:36:56,840 --> 00:37:00,720
These days, on a computer, you can
do this kind of thing in 15 seconds.
554
00:37:00,720 --> 00:37:03,320
Back then, it was much harder.
555
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:07,520
We actually never mixed
anything in quadraphonic.
556
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:10,280
Quadrophenia is strictly
a stereo album.
557
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:14,760
At the same time as trying to do
that, everything was up in the air.
558
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:17,400
They were building the studio
and trying to record this thing
559
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:19,840
in the studio, while there
were builders in there.
560
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:22,880
There's people under the desk,
undoing things.
561
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:25,320
He says, "Hold on a minute,
another take,"
562
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:27,360
and then they start...
It was utter chaos.
563
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:30,200
What was different about our studio
to everybody else's,
564
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:33,440
that we had the bar
IN the fucking studio.
565
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:36,280
You know, you'd kind of go,
"Na, na, na, nee, na,"
566
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:38,320
and then pour yourself
a pint of beer,
567
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:40,720
or a pint of brandy,
whatever it was, right there.
568
00:37:40,720 --> 00:37:42,600
You didn't have to reach
out very far.
569
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:47,080
The average Who session, not for
Roger, but for John, Keith and I,
570
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:50,520
would start, we'd roll up,
it would be two o'clock.
571
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:53,360
By four o'clock, we would
have had enough brandy
572
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:58,160
to start fiddling around.
We would be telling stories.
573
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:01,440
Roger hated all that stuff,
he just thought it was time-wasting.
574
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:05,920
We were building round
the making of Quadrophenia,
575
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:08,120
and we didn't know
our arse from our elbow.
576
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:09,600
We didn't know what we were doing.
577
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:13,920
When the desk got put in, Pete said,
"Let's hear what it sounds like,"
578
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:16,800
and all of us in the control room,
579
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:18,960
our ears and noses started to bleed.
580
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:21,560
I have a ruptured eardrum
to this day, because of it.
581
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:23,520
We measured it.
582
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:29,280
It was louder than standing
by the four engines of Concorde
at full throttle.
583
00:38:30,720 --> 00:38:35,120
It was 140 decibels,
and one guitar blast...
584
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:38,800
..just projectile bleeding!
585
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:40,560
SHE LAUGHS
586
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:45,440
As well as the studio falling apart,
587
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:51,040
Townshend was in danger
of losing his long-term creative
ally and producer.
588
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:53,880
By the start of Quadrophenia,
Townshend was still
589
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:58,320
under the illusion that Kit Lambert
was going to be around to help him.
590
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:01,160
Kit Lambert and Chris Stone,
their co-managers,
591
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:02,920
got into heroin and stuff.
592
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:06,280
So, they were kind of not
looking after business,
593
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:10,040
or so Roger thought, because Roger
found out that all the money
594
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:13,440
hadn't been accounted for,
and there was some money missing.
595
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:15,400
That was a really sad period,
actually.
596
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:18,080
Kit wanted to be
THE producer, as such.
597
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:21,520
Kit Lambert, who had supposed to
have been co-producing with me,
598
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:24,360
had stopped coming.
599
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:28,000
I took him out, and in the end
I got so angry with Kit
600
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:31,640
over his behaviour, that I started
to threaten him physically,
601
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:34,560
and funnily enough, Roger came out,
602
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:37,960
and calmed me down,
and got Kit Lambert away,
603
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,960
and then we never really
worked together again.
604
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:49,520
And daddy was long gone.
Townshend was on his own.
605
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:56,200
It was pretty difficult, I didn't
realise the extent of their drug use.
606
00:39:57,240 --> 00:39:59,480
And I didn't realise
607
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:04,360
just how much destructive behaviour
was going on.
608
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:08,000
And I guess that Pete felt
incredible pressure.
609
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:22,400
The local community were
really good to us.
610
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:24,280
They loved having the Who there,
611
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:27,720
and that was in the days when
the power station was working.
612
00:40:27,720 --> 00:40:31,120
You know, we had kids from the
estate used to come in
613
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,600
and sit down in the front,
sometimes.
614
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:38,120
5.15 was one of the songs
that they let us listen to,
615
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:39,840
which was exciting.
616
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:43,360
Roger would say things like,
"Girls, would you buy this song?"
We would say yes or no.
617
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:46,000
"Do you think it would get
to number one?"
618
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:48,640
The band now that haven't had
a single out for two years.
619
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:51,360
They've taken a track off
their forthcoming LP,
620
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:53,520
Quadrophenia, I think it's called,
621
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:55,760
and it's 5.15, and it's the Who!
622
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:05,960
The thing about 5.15
was that it was a sound check riff.
623
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,480
We were just getting
the sound together,
624
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:11,760
and then we moved on to another
song, but we were just riffing away.
625
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:14,880
# Why should I care?
626
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:18,160
# Why should I care...? #
627
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:27,280
This song is built around this
riff coming up.
628
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:30,280
GUITAR MUSIC PLAYS
629
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:37,200
And then the horns complement that.
630
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:46,120
If I go back and play you
what John plays,
631
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:49,800
you can hear that he plays
an emulation of the guitar.
632
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:52,200
HORNS ECHO GUITAR CHORDS
633
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:55,800
HE SINGS ALONG
634
00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:59,760
He's playing my guitar part
for me...
635
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:04,800
..With the droning, which
I always had in the background.
636
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:06,760
# Girls of fifteen
637
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:08,600
# Sexually knowing
638
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:10,520
# The ushers are sniffing
639
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:12,560
# Eau de Cologne-ing... #
640
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:15,360
And the ushers are sniffing,
eau de Cologne-ing,
641
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:19,480
was a reference to the young girls
at the Beatles concert in Blackpool.
642
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:22,520
The whole of Blackpool...
this Blackpool theatre
643
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:26,160
smelt of urine. I mean,
it was just beyond belief.
644
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:29,120
Every single girl in the audience
must have pissed themselves
645
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:32,520
in excitement, and they were
sprinkling eau de Cologne
646
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:35,320
on all the seats, because it was
apparently what you do,
647
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:37,080
was you sprinkle eau de Cologne.
648
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:38,720
# Girls of fifteen
649
00:42:38,720 --> 00:42:40,720
# Sexually knowing
650
00:42:40,720 --> 00:42:42,560
# The ushers are sniffing
651
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:44,400
# Eau de Cologne-ing
652
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:46,240
# The seats are seductive
653
00:42:46,240 --> 00:42:48,040
# Celibate sitting
654
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:50,080
# Pretty girls digging
655
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:52,080
# Prettier women
656
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:53,960
# Magically bored
657
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:55,920
# On a quiet street corner
658
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:58,000
# Free frustration
659
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:00,080
# In our minds and our toes
660
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:01,920
# Quiet storm water
661
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:03,800
# M-M-My generation
662
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:05,720
# Uppers and downers
663
00:43:05,720 --> 00:43:09,640
# Either way, blood flows... #
664
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:11,600
Jimmy's fallen out of love
with his idols,
665
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:13,240
he's been thrown out of his home.
666
00:43:13,240 --> 00:43:14,920
The scooter's been crashed.
667
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:18,560
Right, now what you do? This
is the going off into the wilderness,
668
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:21,400
cos actually what he's doing,
he's going off in search of Xanadu.
669
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:25,360
# ..Inside, outside
670
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:27,400
# Leave me alone... #
671
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:30,720
'He's going back to find the thing
that makes sense to him,
672
00:43:30,720 --> 00:43:33,280
'you know, being on the beach,
being down in Brighton,
673
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:35,480
'being part of the whole
mod culture thing.'
674
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:39,560
# ..Out of my brain
on the 5.15... #
675
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:42,480
'And he's going off in search
of something
676
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:44,760
'that he already knows is gone.
677
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:47,800
'That, I think,
is why that song is so powerful,
678
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:50,840
'because it's the sense that
something has all ready been lost.'
679
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:34,520
He goes back to Brighton,
680
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:37,720
but there's that lovely idea
that Townshend captures,
681
00:44:37,720 --> 00:44:41,720
a very English idea of going
to a seaside town after the
fair's left. You're off season.
682
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:45,680
But, actually, there's
a strange beauty in it,
683
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:48,320
and the beauty is that he feels
calm by the sea and the sand,
684
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:51,320
because everything else
has passed away.
685
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:53,840
# Here by the sea and sand
686
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,400
# Nothing ever goes as planned
687
00:44:57,400 --> 00:45:00,480
# I just couldn't face going home
688
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:04,360
# It was just a drag on my own... #
689
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:07,280
Jimmy is drawn to -
and this is the reason
690
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:10,040
why he is not the same
as everyone else -
691
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:12,760
is that he goes and talks to the sea.
692
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:16,560
The image of him looking out
at something much bigger
than all of this.
693
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:19,000
Brighton, the mod culture thing,
is happening behind here,
694
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:21,640
on the promenade, on the pier,
but actually what he's doing
695
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:23,720
is looking out at the vast
expanse of the sea,
696
00:45:23,720 --> 00:45:25,920
and the sea is speaking to him.
697
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:33,200
# Let me flow into the ocean
698
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:35,440
# Let me get back to the sea
699
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:40,360
# Let me be stormy
and let me be calm
700
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:46,640
# Let the tide in
and set me free... #
701
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:53,160
That was a song written about the
spiritual journey.
702
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:55,760
# ..I want to drown... #
703
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:01,280
It's about,
"Let me get back to the sea.
704
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:05,600
"Let me get back to the ocean,"
meaning, "Let me get back to God,"
705
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:09,200
which is brought on by
walking on the beach, by the sea.
706
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:11,640
There's nobody there but him,
he's on his own.
707
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:15,520
# ..Let me flow into the ocean
708
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:18,000
# Let me get back to the sea
709
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:23,160
# Let me be stormy
and let me be calm
710
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:28,720
# Let the tide in, rush over me
711
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:34,840
# You know, I want to drown, drown
712
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:37,600
# Drown, drown, drown
713
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:42,440
# I want to drown, drown
714
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:45,960
# Drown, drown, drown
715
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:48,960
# I want to drown, drown
716
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:52,240
# Drown, drown, drown... #
717
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:59,960
It's interesting that out of
that calm and peace
718
00:46:59,960 --> 00:47:02,680
comes the story's whole turning
point, where Jimmy meets up
719
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:04,840
with this key figure from his past,
720
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:06,840
the leader of the mods,
the Ace Face.
721
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:12,160
The idea is that Jimmy goes back
and he finds this character,
722
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:15,120
the Ace Face, who he really,
really idolised,
723
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:18,680
but in fact, the guy who was
smashing in the hotel doors with him
724
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:21,240
just recently is now working
as a bellboy.
725
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:40,280
# The beach is a place where
a man can feel
726
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:45,040
# He's the only soul
in the world that's real... #
727
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:51,960
Jimmy sees his hero in the harsh
midday sun being nobody.
728
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:55,760
# ..Well, I see a face coming
through the haze
729
00:47:57,240 --> 00:48:00,680
# I remember him from
those crazy days... #
730
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:04,320
And if this person, who was
so exalted, who was so perfect,
731
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:07,560
that he idolised, is nothing,
732
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:10,840
then Jimmy has nothing,
he is nothing.
733
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:15,640
# ..Riding up in front of
a hundred faces
734
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:18,560
# I don't suppose
you would remember me
735
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:22,520
# But I used to follow
you back in '63... #
736
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:27,760
Jimmy's rank disillusion
at the idea that the person
737
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:31,000
he idolised is a fucking bellboy.
738
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:39,240
# ..I've got a good job
739
00:48:39,240 --> 00:48:41,120
# And I'm newly born
740
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:44,960
# You should see me
dressed up in my uniform
741
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:48,640
# I work in hotel
All gilt and flash
742
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:52,840
# Remember the gaff where
the doors we smashed?
743
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:54,280
# Bell boy
744
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:56,440
# I got to get running now... #
745
00:48:56,440 --> 00:49:01,600
It was quite difficult working
with Keith as a singer,
because he acted, rather than sang.
746
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:03,800
# ..Carry the bloody baggage out
747
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:05,200
# Bell boy
748
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:07,920
# Always running at
someone's heel... #
749
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:09,800
I loved the way he did that.
750
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:15,440
It's the kind of thing you could
imagine a bellboy doing,
751
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:16,640
working at a posh hotel.
752
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:19,320
"Cor blimey,"
like this, with his mates,
753
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:22,320
and then when after a tip,
it's, "Hello, sir."
754
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:28,240
I was uncomfortable with turning
the bellboy into a comedy figure,
755
00:49:28,240 --> 00:49:32,920
because I thought, "This is the only
time that the Ace Face sings."
756
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:36,720
# ..Remembering when stars
were in reach
757
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:40,800
# I wander in early to work... #
758
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:43,120
A couple of times, I said to him,
"It's not a comedy."
759
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:46,720
# ..Spend my day licking boots
for my perks... #
760
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:50,120
Whoosh! That would have gone...
761
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:54,240
# ..The beach is a place
where a man can feel
762
00:49:54,240 --> 00:49:58,080
# He's the only
soul in the world that's real... #
763
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:02,800
INTERVIEWER:
What was Keith like in 1973?
764
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:07,080
Just a little bit more drunk than
he was in 1972!
765
00:50:11,240 --> 00:50:13,160
The extraordinary thing about Keith
766
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:15,920
was that whatever you felt
about him as a drummer,
767
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:19,360
and I didn't think very much
of him as a drummer...
768
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:21,040
HE LAUGHS
769
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:24,440
It's kind of sacrilege,
isn't it? But I didn't.
770
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:26,640
He listened.
771
00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:29,920
People would call him
a sloppy drummer, and he never
was a sloppy drummer.
772
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:34,240
He had an extraordinary metronome.
He made the music dramatic.
773
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:42,200
What he wouldn't do is play,
"Boom, boom, bup, ba, boom, ba."
774
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:44,920
He'd be, "Blrr-plplrprl!
Bing, bing, bing!
775
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:47,200
"Bing, bing, bing!
Tiddle, bing, bing!
776
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:49,200
"Biddle, bing, bing," you know?
777
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:52,080
And I'd be going,
"Boom, boom, bang, bang, boom,"
778
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:54,520
because somebody had to!
779
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:04,040
# ..People often change
780
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:05,920
# But when I look in your eyes
781
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:09,880
# You could learn a lot from
a life like mine
782
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:11,400
# The secret to me
783
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:13,640
# It ain't flown like a flag
784
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:16,280
# I wear it behind this
bloody little badge
785
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:17,560
# What says...
786
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:19,000
# Bell boy... #
787
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:22,560
He was at the top of his game
in '73, '73-'74,
788
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:25,200
absolute top of his game.
789
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:28,440
He was magnificent,
and funny as hell.
790
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:32,760
You know, I tell the funny
stories about him showing up
791
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:34,960
and saying, "Come outside
and look at my new car!"
792
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:37,000
We'd go out
and there'd be a Rolls-Royce.
793
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:39,880
We'd say, "That's fabulous,
Keith, great."
794
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:42,560
Then two hours later, we'd have
somebody from Jack Barclay's -
795
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:45,280
"Where do I send the invoice
for Keith Moon's new car?
796
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:48,400
"He said we've got to send it to
the Who group. Is it the Who group?"
797
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:50,600
I said, "No, you send it
to Keith Moon."
798
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:53,480
"No, no, no. We have to send it
to the Who group."
799
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:55,600
"No, we're not fucking
paying for it, OK?
800
00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:57,200
"This is his car,
let him pay for it."
801
00:51:57,200 --> 00:51:58,800
"No, no, you don't understand..."
802
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:01,520
"No, you don't fucking understand.
We're not paying for his car."
803
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:03,400
Ah! That's better!
804
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:09,080
Phil, what-what-what-what-what...
805
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:13,360
'I think today you'd say
he had ADHD
806
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:15,360
'and he needed some Ritalin,
or something.'
807
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:19,960
LAUGHTER
808
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:25,080
But taking cocaine and mandrix
and brandy was exacerbating it.
809
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:28,880
It was always a mixture with Keith.
810
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:33,240
You know, fun one minute
and a bit frightening the next.
811
00:52:33,240 --> 00:52:36,080
Never felt afraid OF him,
but frightened for him
812
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:38,160
and people around him.
813
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:44,240
And he wasn't at his best
as a human being at that time.
814
00:52:44,240 --> 00:52:46,080
I don't think any of us were,
really.
815
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:48,480
I shouldn't really
single him out.
816
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:03,560
There's a credit on the inside
of the sleeve which says,
817
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:07,760
"Quadrophenia in its entirety
by Pete Townshend."
818
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:14,800
Townshend writes, records the
entire album himself in demo form
819
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:17,480
and then, when he brought it
to the Who, they did it again.
820
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:23,440
Quadrophenia was definitely
like a Pete Townshend solo project.
821
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:26,320
It was all Townshend
from start to finish, his own...
822
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:30,560
They probably knew
nothing about it till he came
and said, "Here it is."
823
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:34,240
So, you could see how Roger
and maybe the others would feel
824
00:53:34,240 --> 00:53:37,480
a little bit resentful,
because it could be construed
825
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:40,880
as being used like
session musicians, you know.
826
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:45,200
I hear it said that Pete produced
the album, which in a sense he did.
827
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:47,840
But the one thing he never,
ever produced was the vocals.
828
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:51,280
He's never there when I record
my vocals, ever. I won't have that.
829
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:56,520
Roger was always tough,
assertive, masculine.
830
00:53:56,520 --> 00:54:01,640
So there was always that sense that
you had to be cheerful what you
said around him, you really did.
831
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:04,480
Pete's a very
complicated character,
832
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:07,920
incredibly complicated, as you
can see by the songs he writes.
833
00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:11,200
They had an addiction to friction.
834
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:14,200
It's almost like
they're two jigsaw pieces,
835
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:16,840
and when you bring them together
they fit together.
836
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:20,920
It's an absolute love-hate...
837
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:24,760
Not hate, but it's
a love-anger relationship.
838
00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:31,680
And I think
if you take away the love-anger,
839
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:34,520
you take away the creative source.
840
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:37,800
You take away the driving dynamic.
841
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:11,640
So he steals a boat, in the story,
842
00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:14,320
and goes out to sea
and almost drowns.
843
00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:17,720
It's clearly written as,
is this going to be what happens
844
00:55:17,720 --> 00:55:20,240
to this boy whose life's
kind of fallen apart?
845
00:55:20,240 --> 00:55:24,080
Who's twice schizophrenic,
pilled out, lost, he's got nothing,
846
00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:26,960
doesn't have a girl,
doesn't have a bike,
847
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:28,880
doesn't have anything.
848
00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:31,400
And that's kind of
what we're shooting.
849
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:34,080
And then he's now really adrift.
850
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:36,440
And then this,
which I just kind of love.
851
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:38,280
Love Reign O'er Me.
852
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:52,480
# Only love... #
853
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:53,920
What's interesting about...
854
00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:59,840
..the opening here is
that what you hear from Roger
855
00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:02,720
is incredible tenderness.
856
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:07,800
You don't hear the
heartfelt bawling,
857
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:10,440
screaming bear
that you hear later on.
858
00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:13,360
# Only love
859
00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:16,360
# Can make it rain
860
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:19,560
# The way the beach
861
00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:21,640
# Is kissed by the sea
862
00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:26,200
# Only love
863
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:28,800
# Can make it rain
864
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:31,960
# Like the set of lovers
865
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:34,600
# Laying in the fields... #
866
00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:37,000
Then you get
to this impassioned scream.
867
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:40,240
# ..Love!
868
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:44,560
# Reign o'er me... #
869
00:56:45,720 --> 00:56:49,400
If nothing else, Love Reign O'er Me
shows that Jimmy's a man.
870
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:51,400
# ..Love... #
871
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:54,280
A boy wants to be noticed at a club,
872
00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:56,040
wants a jacket.
873
00:56:56,040 --> 00:56:59,240
Here, at the end,
Jimmy is finally becoming a man
874
00:56:59,240 --> 00:57:01,600
and asking for things
that men want.
875
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:03,680
# ..Reign o'er me
876
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:10,160
# Only love
877
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:11,920
# Can bring the rain... #
878
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:13,800
Jimmy is the hero, at last.
879
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:15,840
It's not about the Who,
it's not about Roger,
880
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:18,560
it's not about Pete,
not about John, not about the mods,
881
00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:21,720
it's not about Ace Face,
not about drugs,
or any of that stuff.
882
00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:24,960
It's just about Jimmy and what it is
that he's finally got to,
883
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:27,600
is that he realises that he's been
looking outside himself,
884
00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:31,240
and what he has to do now is to
try to ask the question internally,
885
00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:33,240
and that what this song does.
886
00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:35,080
# ..Love!
887
00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:41,000
# Reign o'er me
888
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:45,480
# Reign o'er me, reign o'er me
889
00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:48,280
# Love!
890
00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:53,040
# Reign o'er me
891
00:57:53,040 --> 00:58:00,320
# Reign o'er me, reign o'er me... #
892
00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:15,560
The poignancy for me was that,
as a composer, working with the Who
893
00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:19,600
was so great because they used to
give me this unbelievable licence.
894
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:22,240
They didn't share my spiritual
beliefs - that's fine -
895
00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:24,880
they didn't share my spiritual
beliefs but they allowed me
896
00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:27,360
to have them, and to express them
through my work.
897
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:29,680
And when it came to a song like
Love Reign O'er Me,
898
00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:32,600
which is a spiritual
prayer to nothing and everything,
899
00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:35,240
Roger gave it his bollocks.
900
00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:43,040
This is Roger coming in
in a second.
901
00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:47,800
'I did it as a scream
from the street.'
902
00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:53,320
I wanted it to be like the ultimate
anger, the ultimate passion,
903
00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:54,720
the ultimate orgasm, you know.
904
00:58:56,760 --> 00:59:00,000
'I wanted it to be like every
emotion we've ever had.'
905
00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:02,840
# ..Lo-o-o-ove!
906
00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:06,920
# Reign o'er me
907
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:10,520
# Reign over me, over me, over me
908
00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:13,440
# Whoa! Love! #
909
00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:16,920
Because then it's
unconditional to the track.
910
00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:20,320
And love should be always
unconditional.
911
00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:24,480
# O-o-o'er me... #
912
00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:30,000
You get this sense of Roger
913
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:33,480
producing this deep scream
from his heart,
914
00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:34,880
from Jimmy's heart.
915
00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:39,200
# ..Love... #
916
00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:43,280
HE CHUCKLES
917
00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:55,640
The end of Quadrophenia
is left ambiguous.
918
00:59:55,640 --> 00:59:58,840
The illusion of drowning and water
919
00:59:58,840 --> 01:00:03,360
is throughout the album,
and that can be death or rebirth.
920
01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:07,840
The question of what happens
to Jimmy next,
921
01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:12,720
I really like the fact that
it's in the hands of the listener.
922
01:00:28,200 --> 01:00:32,320
We're going to go on the road again.
We're doing a tour of Europe.
923
01:00:32,320 --> 01:00:34,240
Then we do America
924
01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:37,200
and we come back to Europe
925
01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:38,960
and then we do America again.
926
01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:40,960
We've got two American
tours lined up.
927
01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:43,160
The day that we finished
the stereo mix,
928
01:00:43,160 --> 01:00:45,160
our managers booked a fucking tour.
929
01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:53,960
So I had two weeks to rehearse,
to develop the
stage's quadraphonic sound,
930
01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:55,600
which was impossible.
931
01:00:55,600 --> 01:00:58,440
We didn't have the time.
So they overworked us.
932
01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:02,400
I didn't take into account properly
at that time
933
01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:04,760
the load that Pete had,
934
01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:06,720
what with the
mixing and everything else.
935
01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:08,800
I was trying to help them survive.
936
01:01:10,040 --> 01:01:12,480
Speaking for myself,
I was dead meat.
937
01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:16,720
Actually completely exhausted.
I'm sure Roger was exhausted too.
938
01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:21,400
We had employed a bunch of people
that were our friends
939
01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:23,440
to film the rehearsal
940
01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:28,280
and I think we got through
to Doctor Jimmy
941
01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:32,360
and they'd been sitting
on their boxes with cameras
942
01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:35,800
and I just said to them,
"You can sit on your arses
all fucking afternoon
943
01:01:35,800 --> 01:01:37,560
"cos I'm not singing this again.
944
01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:40,280
"I thought you were supposed
to be filming this?"
945
01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:43,360
I don't know why,
but for some reason
946
01:01:43,360 --> 01:01:46,360
this other side of Pete came over
and started poking me.
947
01:01:46,360 --> 01:01:49,600
"They do what I tell them to do!"
948
01:01:49,600 --> 01:01:51,560
And doing this to me.
949
01:01:51,560 --> 01:01:54,880
All the roadies jump on me
and start holding my arms.
950
01:01:54,880 --> 01:01:56,320
I started to scream at him
951
01:01:56,320 --> 01:02:01,840
and I can't remember the details but
we ended up in a physical grappling.
952
01:02:01,840 --> 01:02:04,440
He pulled his guitar off
and, as he brought it down,
953
01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:06,600
he tried to hit me
on the head with it.
954
01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:09,240
And it glanced off
my shoulder, like that.
955
01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:12,960
Then he threw a punch and it went
one way and I moved that way.
956
01:02:12,960 --> 01:02:15,680
Then he threw the other punch,
and as he was coming forward
957
01:02:15,680 --> 01:02:19,040
with his right hand this way,
I upper-cutted him.
958
01:02:19,040 --> 01:02:22,120
And he hit me and I passed out.
959
01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:25,240
AUDIENCE CHEERS
960
01:02:37,080 --> 01:02:40,040
ANNOUNCER: Here they are...the Who!
961
01:02:40,040 --> 01:02:44,000
At the shows, you could see
they'd introduced our new work
962
01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:47,040
and the audience were going, "Yeah",
and it would start and they'd go...
963
01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:51,360
We'd like to carry on
our present act
964
01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:53,800
with our new album,
965
01:02:53,800 --> 01:02:56,480
or parts of it.
966
01:02:56,480 --> 01:03:00,680
I don't know what they expected,
but the audience, it was new to them.
967
01:03:00,680 --> 01:03:05,440
'Then what started to happen is that
Roger started to tell the story.'
968
01:03:05,440 --> 01:03:10,200
This one's about his feelings
when he gets down to the seaside.
969
01:03:10,200 --> 01:03:12,520
Every time we played a song,
he was stopping and saying,
970
01:03:12,520 --> 01:03:14,280
"Now Jimmy has fucked off
with his dad.
971
01:03:14,280 --> 01:03:15,600
"He's going to go and get a job."
972
01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:22,680
The next song is about a guy
973
01:03:22,680 --> 01:03:26,720
who sees an old gang leader
who's working as a bellhop.
974
01:03:26,720 --> 01:03:29,080
When somebody's talking on stage,
you can't hear it.
975
01:03:29,080 --> 01:03:31,760
Half the time you're,
"What did he say?"
976
01:03:31,760 --> 01:03:35,640
So you had that confusion
going on at these Quadrophenia shows.
977
01:03:39,120 --> 01:03:42,080
So I probably gave Pete
a load of problems he didn't need.
978
01:03:45,640 --> 01:03:48,040
After that, things fell apart.
979
01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:56,720
It was the first night
of the Quadrophenia US shows
980
01:03:56,720 --> 01:04:01,240
and Moon takes elephant tranquiliser
and he starts off strong enough,
981
01:04:01,240 --> 01:04:03,280
and a few songs in, he collapses.
982
01:04:06,640 --> 01:04:09,200
He's out cold.
983
01:04:09,200 --> 01:04:14,400
I think he's gone and eaten
something he shouldn't have eaten.
984
01:04:14,400 --> 01:04:16,720
It's your foreign food.
985
01:04:18,720 --> 01:04:22,960
I'm afraid the horrible truth is,
986
01:04:22,960 --> 01:04:26,080
that without him, we're not a group.
987
01:04:27,920 --> 01:04:30,360
Yeah, he did that
kind of thing all the time.
988
01:04:30,360 --> 01:04:33,960
It's just that this time, the drugs
were too powerful for him.
989
01:04:42,880 --> 01:04:45,640
He's still a bit sort of dodgy.
990
01:04:46,960 --> 01:04:49,160
But he'll be all right.
991
01:05:00,520 --> 01:05:02,800
He is dragged off stage
and they take a break
992
01:05:02,800 --> 01:05:05,320
and they come back
and he makes it through
993
01:05:05,320 --> 01:05:09,480
and then by the end of
Won't Get Fooled Again, he's dead.
994
01:05:09,480 --> 01:05:11,160
He is lifeless, he's Jell-O.
995
01:05:23,400 --> 01:05:25,520
Can anybody play the drums?
996
01:05:27,160 --> 01:05:31,760
And then they had this fan, Scott
Halpin, come play drums with them.
997
01:05:31,760 --> 01:05:33,000
Scott!
998
01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:36,680
And that's how they kicked off
what already was a difficult tour.
999
01:05:40,840 --> 01:05:45,440
We managed to kind of solider on.
We could put a brave face on it.
1000
01:05:45,440 --> 01:05:47,760
I could tell funny stories about it
1001
01:05:47,760 --> 01:05:51,080
and we could all have a good laugh,
but it was tragic.
1002
01:05:51,080 --> 01:05:55,080
It was really tragic,
cos Keith was being a fool.
1003
01:06:05,160 --> 01:06:07,200
We got good reviews and the album
sold well,
1004
01:06:07,200 --> 01:06:10,360
but when we came back to Europe
the following year,
1005
01:06:10,360 --> 01:06:11,840
we weren't even playing it.
1006
01:06:11,840 --> 01:06:14,760
Went back to playing Tommy.
1007
01:06:17,400 --> 01:06:21,080
And what's interesting about this
album is it kind of worked.
1008
01:06:21,080 --> 01:06:25,440
We never really ever made
a truly great album again.
1009
01:06:37,680 --> 01:06:40,560
You pulled this letter out,
it's a painful letter,
1010
01:06:40,560 --> 01:06:44,280
but this is the man I was
at a point.
1011
01:06:44,280 --> 01:06:48,000
Ted Oldman was our lawyer
at the time
1012
01:06:48,000 --> 01:06:54,120
and in this last week of recording
here I think I just thought,
1013
01:06:54,120 --> 01:06:56,160
"I've had it with this.
1014
01:06:56,160 --> 01:06:58,760
"This is not going to happen.
We're not going to get an album.
1015
01:07:01,600 --> 01:07:02,920
"We're screwed in some way."
1016
01:07:02,920 --> 01:07:05,320
I probably had a bad day,
but it says,
1017
01:07:05,320 --> 01:07:08,840
"Dear Ted, I'm writing to you in
strictest confidence to ask advice
1018
01:07:08,840 --> 01:07:13,840
"and to seek guidance on a matter
I feel only you can help me with.
1019
01:07:13,840 --> 01:07:16,720
"I've spoken to my wife and very
intimate friends about this,
1020
01:07:16,720 --> 01:07:19,520
"but I found the making of this
current record a great strain.
1021
01:07:19,520 --> 01:07:22,560
"The studio building problems,
the writing problems
1022
01:07:22,560 --> 01:07:25,160
"and, of course, Kit and Keith
have been aggravations
1023
01:07:25,160 --> 01:07:26,920
"to an already difficult time.
1024
01:07:26,920 --> 01:07:29,800
"I've been building up to this
for many years now
1025
01:07:29,800 --> 01:07:31,080
"and I feel that, as of now,
1026
01:07:31,080 --> 01:07:34,560
"the record we are making and the
current tours we are undertaking
1027
01:07:34,560 --> 01:07:38,000
"will be the last I want to be
involved with as the Who as a group.
1028
01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:41,240
"I'm losing any impetus either to
write for the Who as a vehicle
1029
01:07:41,240 --> 01:07:43,080
"or play with its members
as a musician."
1030
01:07:43,080 --> 01:07:45,720
You know we were done.
We were definitely done.
1031
01:07:45,720 --> 01:07:48,960
And this letter is
indicative of the fact that
1032
01:07:48,960 --> 01:07:53,240
I would have gone home in that week
and taken my wife aside
1033
01:07:53,240 --> 01:07:56,840
and said, "You know, we haven't had
a holiday for fucking two years.
1034
01:07:56,840 --> 01:07:58,200
"I've hardly seen you.
1035
01:07:58,200 --> 01:08:01,600
"We probably haven't made love for
six weeks, six months,
1036
01:08:01,600 --> 01:08:03,080
"God knows what.
1037
01:08:03,080 --> 01:08:06,240
"I probably missed you at Christmas.
I probably missed our anniversary.
1038
01:08:06,240 --> 01:08:10,280
"I'm sorry. It was all a fucking
complete waste of time."
1039
01:08:10,280 --> 01:08:12,320
That's probably what
I would have said to her.
1040
01:08:12,320 --> 01:08:13,840
And she probably would
have said to me,
1041
01:08:13,840 --> 01:08:16,600
"Well, if that's how you feel
you should stop, sweetheart."
1042
01:08:16,600 --> 01:08:19,520
And I write this letter
and I didn't send it.
1043
01:08:37,480 --> 01:08:40,600
MUSIC: "Drowned" by The Who
1044
01:08:44,360 --> 01:08:48,040
# There are men high up there fishing
1045
01:08:48,040 --> 01:08:51,880
# Haven't seen quite enough of
the world
1046
01:08:51,880 --> 01:08:55,600
# I ain't seen a sign of my hero
1047
01:08:55,600 --> 01:09:00,160
# And I'm still diving down
for pearls
1048
01:09:00,160 --> 01:09:03,640
# Let me flow into the ocean
1049
01:09:03,640 --> 01:09:07,440
# Let me get back to the sea
1050
01:09:07,440 --> 01:09:09,680
# Let me be stormy and let me be calm
1051
01:09:09,680 --> 01:09:14,680
# Let the tide in and set me free. #
90194
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