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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:09,576 --> 00:00:10,342 [grim music] 2 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:15,748 Well over a million american children 3 00:00:15,816 --> 00:00:19,484 Disappear from their homes or neighborhoods every year. 4 00:00:19,553 --> 00:00:21,620 [mike] the president had mentioned jonelle matthews. 5 00:00:21,688 --> 00:00:23,388 But they were exactly at the same place they were 6 00:00:23,457 --> 00:00:25,257 At the start of the search. 7 00:00:25,325 --> 00:00:27,359 [male reporter] the absolute mystery about her disappearance 8 00:00:27,427 --> 00:00:29,161 Remains unsolved. 9 00:00:29,229 --> 00:00:32,498 I felt that she was taken. There was absolutely nothing. 10 00:00:38,705 --> 00:00:41,306 I wasn't a part of this. I don't know what happened. 11 00:00:41,374 --> 00:00:42,641 [mike] other than raking in the snow, 12 00:00:42,709 --> 00:00:43,908 They really didn't have any evidence 13 00:00:43,910 --> 00:00:44,076 That she'd been kidnapped. 14 00:00:48,715 --> 00:00:51,116 Oh, I absolutely thought he was acting strange. 15 00:00:51,185 --> 00:00:52,917 Why was the car on fire? 16 00:00:52,987 --> 00:00:54,653 His control grew and grew. 17 00:00:54,721 --> 00:00:55,187 It wasn't safe. 18 00:01:03,397 --> 00:01:07,265 [police radio chatter] 19 00:01:07,334 --> 00:01:08,200 [siren wails] 20 00:01:10,370 --> 00:01:11,870 [robert] jonelle matthews disappeared on 21 00:01:11,939 --> 00:01:15,274 December 20th of 1984. 22 00:01:15,342 --> 00:01:17,743 [jim on phone] hi, robert. This is jim matthews. 23 00:01:17,811 --> 00:01:18,911 [robert] jim and gloria, 24 00:01:18,979 --> 00:01:20,879 I need to tell you guys before, uh, 25 00:01:20,947 --> 00:01:23,215 Any social media got to ya... 26 00:01:23,283 --> 00:01:25,818 For decades, a monster 27 00:01:25,886 --> 00:01:27,952 Tapped on the shoulder of law enforcement 28 00:01:27,954 --> 00:01:30,589 Because he couldn't help but to do it. 29 00:01:32,526 --> 00:01:33,625 I'll never forget this. 30 00:01:33,693 --> 00:01:36,561 [siren wails] 31 00:01:36,630 --> 00:01:37,830 [female reporter] this area's about 30 minutes away 32 00:01:37,898 --> 00:01:39,765 From her family's home in greeley. 33 00:01:39,833 --> 00:01:41,833 Greeley police and the other agencies involved 34 00:01:41,902 --> 00:01:45,069 Have been keeping very tight lipped about it. 35 00:01:45,071 --> 00:01:47,572 [robert] it took more than three decades, 36 00:01:47,574 --> 00:01:48,740 But we found her. 37 00:01:49,943 --> 00:01:57,449 [suspenseful music] 38 00:01:59,519 --> 00:02:01,986 [jennifer] thirty years had passed 39 00:02:01,988 --> 00:02:05,590 When I had got a phone call from my friend robert cash. 40 00:02:05,592 --> 00:02:08,727 He was assigned jonelle's case. 41 00:02:08,795 --> 00:02:12,431 Rob and I have known each other since ninth grade. 42 00:02:12,499 --> 00:02:15,367 Was I expecting much? Not really. 43 00:02:15,435 --> 00:02:17,569 But go ahead, pursue it, you know? 44 00:02:17,638 --> 00:02:19,271 Maybe he'd uncover something. 45 00:02:21,508 --> 00:02:26,512 I still had her on my mind daily, nightly. 46 00:02:28,015 --> 00:02:29,681 It just never goes away. 47 00:02:32,953 --> 00:02:35,988 [jim] we knew that there was a distinct possibility 48 00:02:36,056 --> 00:02:39,625 We would go to our graves not knowing what happened. 49 00:02:41,728 --> 00:02:44,496 [jennifer] she just remained an unsolved mystery. 50 00:02:48,235 --> 00:02:50,368 [robert] the matthews case rings in the halls 51 00:02:50,437 --> 00:02:52,404 Of the greeley police department. 52 00:02:52,472 --> 00:02:53,505 It's unrivaled. 53 00:02:55,576 --> 00:02:58,543 There's kind of a fantasy about being able to solve 54 00:02:58,612 --> 00:03:01,446 A case like this, 55 00:03:01,514 --> 00:03:03,215 Particularly since you knew the family. 56 00:03:04,785 --> 00:03:07,452 Failure wasn't an option. 57 00:03:07,521 --> 00:03:09,321 I never let myself fear failure. 58 00:03:12,759 --> 00:03:15,660 [tense music] 59 00:03:15,662 --> 00:03:17,061 [angela] we were living south of ketchum 60 00:03:17,131 --> 00:03:19,731 Here in idaho. 61 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:22,534 My marriage with steve was awful. 62 00:03:22,602 --> 00:03:24,936 The coercive control was always there. 63 00:03:25,005 --> 00:03:26,971 The physical abuse was more random 64 00:03:27,041 --> 00:03:28,540 And it wasn't all the time. 65 00:03:30,644 --> 00:03:33,312 I was working cleaning houses. 66 00:03:33,380 --> 00:03:36,681 We were renting a house from one of my clients. 67 00:03:36,750 --> 00:03:38,516 I was at work one day. 68 00:03:38,585 --> 00:03:41,686 I expected my paycheck to be there, and it wasn't. 69 00:03:41,688 --> 00:03:43,755 So I asked her about it. 70 00:03:43,824 --> 00:03:46,925 And she said, "you have a lot of nerve asking for your paycheck 71 00:03:46,993 --> 00:03:50,695 When you guys haven't paid your rent." 72 00:03:50,697 --> 00:03:53,665 So when I went home, I said to steve, 73 00:03:53,734 --> 00:03:55,367 "steve, I didn't get my check 74 00:03:55,435 --> 00:03:58,837 Because she said that our rent isn't paid." 75 00:03:58,905 --> 00:04:02,007 And he said, "well, I had to use the money for legal fees. 76 00:04:02,075 --> 00:04:05,710 "police are persecuting me. 77 00:04:05,779 --> 00:04:08,880 I won't tell them what they want to know about jonelle matthews." 78 00:04:12,719 --> 00:04:14,753 "jonelle matthews?" 79 00:04:16,723 --> 00:04:18,923 That was the first time jonelle matthews' name 80 00:04:18,925 --> 00:04:21,994 Had come up in 10 years. 81 00:04:22,062 --> 00:04:24,963 He turned kind of halfway to me and said to me, 82 00:04:25,032 --> 00:04:27,131 "do you really think I would hurt her 83 00:04:27,201 --> 00:04:28,934 When she looks so much like you?" 84 00:04:32,605 --> 00:04:34,038 There's an expression that something makes 85 00:04:34,108 --> 00:04:35,940 Your blood run cold, 86 00:04:35,942 --> 00:04:37,642 But it's the only time in my life 87 00:04:37,644 --> 00:04:38,944 I've experienced it. 88 00:04:40,681 --> 00:04:44,082 All those odd occurrences, 89 00:04:44,150 --> 00:04:47,719 The quick trip to big bear, the dogs being dumped, 90 00:04:47,788 --> 00:04:49,754 The car being on fire, 91 00:04:49,756 --> 00:04:52,891 The episode at church where he's saying, "false prophet!" 92 00:04:52,959 --> 00:04:56,895 In that moment, all that 93 00:04:56,963 --> 00:04:58,963 Meant something different to me 94 00:04:59,032 --> 00:05:00,766 Than it ever had before. 95 00:05:03,937 --> 00:05:08,773 Something had happened to this 12-year-old girl, 96 00:05:08,775 --> 00:05:10,976 And he was acting like he might've done something. 97 00:05:16,083 --> 00:05:17,816 I had to figure out 98 00:05:17,884 --> 00:05:19,651 If he had murdered jonelle matthews. 99 00:05:22,722 --> 00:05:30,294 [suspenseful music] 100 00:05:30,296 --> 00:05:31,630 [mike] cash and I had been working on 101 00:05:31,698 --> 00:05:33,632 Jonelle's disappearance for years. 102 00:05:35,135 --> 00:05:38,002 This case was chock full of oddities 103 00:05:38,071 --> 00:05:40,105 And strange occurrences, for sure. 104 00:05:45,211 --> 00:05:49,581 To be blunt, the investigation was a mess. 105 00:05:49,649 --> 00:05:52,150 There were a lot of missed opportunities. 106 00:05:52,219 --> 00:05:53,485 Names and subjects, 107 00:05:53,553 --> 00:05:55,620 They weren't necessarily followed up on. 108 00:05:57,924 --> 00:06:00,492 Two reports generated by the lead detective 109 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:02,961 In January of 1985 110 00:06:03,029 --> 00:06:06,398 Mentioned an individual that was claiming to be a pastor 111 00:06:06,466 --> 00:06:09,467 Named steve pankey. 112 00:06:09,536 --> 00:06:11,035 He straight out said that he knew 113 00:06:11,037 --> 00:06:13,205 Jonelle was probably dead 114 00:06:13,273 --> 00:06:16,841 And tried to direct attention towards 115 00:06:16,910 --> 00:06:19,544 The local nazarene church here in greeley, 116 00:06:19,546 --> 00:06:21,546 Where jonelle attended services with her family. 117 00:06:23,450 --> 00:06:27,252 And there's references to a friend of jonelle's family, 118 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:29,688 Russell ross, as a potential suspect. 119 00:06:31,724 --> 00:06:33,658 But then several days later, 120 00:06:33,726 --> 00:06:36,027 Pankey arrived at the police department 121 00:06:36,029 --> 00:06:38,530 And basically said, "disregard. Don't worry about my lead." 122 00:06:43,069 --> 00:06:44,136 [robert] there was a lot of connection to 123 00:06:44,204 --> 00:06:46,538 People involved in the church. 124 00:06:46,606 --> 00:06:49,607 There was still questions in my mind 125 00:06:49,676 --> 00:06:52,043 Surrounding russ ross, 126 00:06:52,045 --> 00:06:54,546 The last trusted adult to have seen jonelle. 127 00:06:57,617 --> 00:07:01,786 Given the fact that the statements forming his alibi 128 00:07:01,855 --> 00:07:03,488 Came from family members, 129 00:07:03,557 --> 00:07:07,025 We couldn't entirely eliminate him 100%. 130 00:07:09,062 --> 00:07:10,895 There were times when I had 131 00:07:10,897 --> 00:07:13,565 Fairly confrontational interviews with him. 132 00:07:13,633 --> 00:07:17,168 However, that scrutiny led us, then, 133 00:07:17,237 --> 00:07:20,004 To other people who would become more important, 134 00:07:20,073 --> 00:07:20,939 Much more important, in the case. 135 00:07:23,409 --> 00:07:25,210 [russ] robert cash, basically he was going through 136 00:07:25,278 --> 00:07:27,145 The whole scenario of 137 00:07:27,213 --> 00:07:28,713 How things happened in that night. 138 00:07:37,257 --> 00:07:40,191 And he said, "the name steve pankey sound familiar?" 139 00:07:40,260 --> 00:07:41,927 And I go, "oh, wow." 140 00:07:44,097 --> 00:07:46,130 [robert] he remembered steve. 141 00:07:46,199 --> 00:07:50,735 There was some friction between him and pankey at work. 142 00:07:50,804 --> 00:07:52,670 [russ] he worked for me. 143 00:07:52,739 --> 00:07:54,806 In the report or something was that 144 00:07:54,875 --> 00:07:58,810 I held him and beat him up and that and so on. 145 00:07:58,879 --> 00:08:01,012 Yeah, I don't know. 146 00:08:01,081 --> 00:08:02,981 It was never substantiated, I guess, 147 00:08:03,049 --> 00:08:04,916 So I don't know what that was all about. 148 00:08:06,820 --> 00:08:09,220 It seemed to me that russell ross felt awkward 149 00:08:09,289 --> 00:08:11,490 Or uncomfortable talking about steve pankey. 150 00:08:12,893 --> 00:08:16,360 This fact fueled my curiosity more 151 00:08:16,362 --> 00:08:18,630 As far as the relationship between the two 152 00:08:18,698 --> 00:08:22,501 And what pankey himself might tell me about russ ross. 153 00:08:22,569 --> 00:08:27,105 [unsettling music] 154 00:08:27,173 --> 00:08:29,140 [dial tone] 155 00:08:29,209 --> 00:08:31,643 [dialing touchtone phone] 156 00:08:32,879 --> 00:08:34,880 [line trilling] 157 00:08:58,338 --> 00:09:00,572 [music intensifies] 158 00:09:07,047 --> 00:09:09,814 [unsettling music] 159 00:09:32,138 --> 00:09:36,341 He was cagey, guarded, making these odd comments. 160 00:10:08,441 --> 00:10:10,241 Why would you need a deal, steve? 161 00:10:10,310 --> 00:10:12,810 Um, I'm, I'm curious about your relationship 162 00:10:12,879 --> 00:10:14,312 With russell ross. 163 00:10:23,790 --> 00:10:26,024 I was really scared then, 164 00:10:26,092 --> 00:10:31,229 That my intuition or that my feelings about it 165 00:10:31,297 --> 00:10:32,330 Were right. 166 00:10:33,900 --> 00:10:36,034 [unsettling music] 167 00:10:36,102 --> 00:10:37,802 [angela] I started watching for clues. 168 00:10:39,439 --> 00:10:42,540 It became like a quest for me. 169 00:10:42,542 --> 00:10:45,977 Is there any more pieces to this puzzle that I can gather 170 00:10:46,046 --> 00:10:47,012 Or that I can find? 171 00:10:49,282 --> 00:10:52,817 Steve had mountains and mountains of paperwork. 172 00:10:52,886 --> 00:10:55,954 He was suing a lot of people. A lot of people were suing him. 173 00:10:59,459 --> 00:11:01,859 So this is something I found on top of steve's desk 174 00:11:01,928 --> 00:11:05,764 After I kind of started watching for things. 175 00:11:05,832 --> 00:11:09,233 So this one says, "pastoral privilege, jonelle. 176 00:11:09,302 --> 00:11:13,071 Jonelle dead before crossing 10th street and greeley." 177 00:11:13,139 --> 00:11:14,405 That speaks volumes to me. 178 00:11:14,474 --> 00:11:17,676 I mean, he names the very street that we live on. 179 00:11:19,479 --> 00:11:22,080 The next thing that I found, 180 00:11:22,148 --> 00:11:25,750 A yellow legal file torn into pieces. 181 00:11:25,819 --> 00:11:27,918 I could see on one of the piece of papers 182 00:11:27,988 --> 00:11:30,355 That it said "jonelle matthews." 183 00:11:30,423 --> 00:11:33,024 So I put that piece of paper back together. 184 00:11:33,093 --> 00:11:37,962 And on that document, it said, 185 00:11:38,031 --> 00:11:41,466 "the snow outside the matthews home was raked." 186 00:11:45,138 --> 00:11:46,404 And how would you know that unless you were there? 187 00:11:51,511 --> 00:11:55,346 Steve couldn't find out that I saw it and copied it. 188 00:11:55,415 --> 00:11:57,581 I laid out towels. 189 00:11:57,651 --> 00:12:00,451 I laid the documents in the towels. 190 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:03,921 I took the insert out of the tongue of my tennis shoe 191 00:12:03,990 --> 00:12:06,558 And then just walked out of the house with them 192 00:12:06,626 --> 00:12:08,927 As bags of laundry taking back to clients. 193 00:12:11,898 --> 00:12:14,799 And then I took all the copies to the police. 194 00:12:14,868 --> 00:12:16,234 I talked to cam daggett first, 195 00:12:16,302 --> 00:12:19,437 Who was the sun valley police chief. 196 00:12:19,506 --> 00:12:20,772 I told him about everything 197 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:23,007 That had happened in '84 and '85, 198 00:12:23,076 --> 00:12:26,244 About the comments that steve said. 199 00:12:26,312 --> 00:12:28,246 And they said, "you've just gotta figure out a way 200 00:12:28,314 --> 00:12:29,781 To get out of this." 201 00:12:33,219 --> 00:12:35,453 I agreed to send all this documentation 202 00:12:35,521 --> 00:12:37,955 To the greeley police, who's handling the case 203 00:12:38,024 --> 00:12:40,892 In greeley, colorado so that it can go forward. 204 00:12:42,729 --> 00:12:46,397 He said, "I'm gonna be praying. I know you're praying. 205 00:12:46,466 --> 00:12:48,199 And we'll leave this in god's hands." 206 00:12:51,037 --> 00:12:53,304 For a long time, 207 00:12:53,373 --> 00:12:55,473 I was waiting for the police to contact me. 208 00:12:57,877 --> 00:12:59,144 And that never happened. 209 00:13:00,446 --> 00:13:05,116 [unsettling music] 210 00:13:05,184 --> 00:13:07,018 [angela] I was still living with him, 211 00:13:07,086 --> 00:13:10,421 Trying to figure out how am I gonna get out of this. 212 00:13:10,423 --> 00:13:13,324 I just didn't see any safe choices, 213 00:13:13,393 --> 00:13:15,326 And he had made so many threats. 214 00:13:17,263 --> 00:13:18,930 It took me a while. 215 00:13:18,998 --> 00:13:22,633 But in my mind, I was like, "that's it." 216 00:13:22,635 --> 00:13:26,805 I went and started trying to talk to attorneys. 217 00:13:26,873 --> 00:13:29,473 All the attorneys I was talking to were saying, 218 00:13:29,542 --> 00:13:31,675 You know, "we've represented somebody suing him, 219 00:13:31,677 --> 00:13:33,511 So we can't help you." 220 00:13:33,579 --> 00:13:38,950 I mean, this was just attorney after attorney after attorney. 221 00:13:39,018 --> 00:13:41,285 Finally I found an attorney 222 00:13:41,287 --> 00:13:44,322 Who hadn't had any dealings with him. 223 00:13:44,390 --> 00:13:48,593 And I was able to get the divorce in motion. 224 00:13:50,931 --> 00:13:54,598 Me and the two boys, we got a civil protection order 225 00:13:54,668 --> 00:13:59,437 So that steve couldn't come around us. 226 00:13:59,439 --> 00:14:01,072 You know that expression, 227 00:14:01,140 --> 00:14:03,908 "keep your friends close and your enemies closer"? 228 00:14:03,977 --> 00:14:05,910 I decided that would be the best way 229 00:14:05,979 --> 00:14:08,880 To approach my relationship with steve. 230 00:14:11,217 --> 00:14:15,419 As far as I knew, he didn't know that I had talked to the police. 231 00:14:15,421 --> 00:14:17,589 I thought if something slipped and he found out, 232 00:14:17,657 --> 00:14:19,357 I knew that he would kill me. 233 00:14:22,495 --> 00:14:24,628 [steve] hello, this is steve pankey. 234 00:14:24,698 --> 00:14:27,998 I'm in front of the idaho governor's office. 235 00:14:28,068 --> 00:14:30,201 I just filed for candidacy 236 00:14:30,203 --> 00:14:34,372 As a republican candidate for governor of the state of idaho. 237 00:14:36,108 --> 00:14:38,109 [angela] one day, to my surprise, 238 00:14:38,177 --> 00:14:41,312 I saw steve campaigning for governor. 239 00:14:41,380 --> 00:14:46,584 So together, we can make a safe, prosperous, and moral idaho. 240 00:14:47,753 --> 00:14:49,020 I'm just shocked. 241 00:14:49,088 --> 00:14:51,589 This is steve pankey. Steve pankey. 242 00:14:51,657 --> 00:14:53,224 Your republican-- republican-- 243 00:14:53,293 --> 00:14:55,059 Idaho-- idaho governor. 244 00:14:57,763 --> 00:15:00,031 If you're young and beautiful, 18, 245 00:15:00,099 --> 00:15:02,033 And this is your first time voting, 246 00:15:02,101 --> 00:15:04,035 I welcome your vote. 247 00:15:04,103 --> 00:15:06,371 If you're young and ugly, I welcome your vote. 248 00:15:09,308 --> 00:15:12,977 The pankey family had always had a trust. 249 00:15:13,046 --> 00:15:14,545 After we were divorced, 250 00:15:14,547 --> 00:15:18,682 Steve spent over $300,000 of his inheritance 251 00:15:18,752 --> 00:15:22,520 To run for governor of idaho. 252 00:15:22,588 --> 00:15:24,688 Steve's dad was a baptist preacher, 253 00:15:24,758 --> 00:15:27,525 Then a judge, who invested heavily 254 00:15:27,593 --> 00:15:30,228 In california real estate. 255 00:15:30,296 --> 00:15:34,198 His great-grandfather had been the governor... 256 00:15:34,267 --> 00:15:36,234 I believe of arizona. 257 00:15:36,302 --> 00:15:41,172 So steve had this air that that's what he planned to be. 258 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:43,408 But I didn't think he had a chance of winning. 259 00:15:45,311 --> 00:15:47,679 Pankeyforidaho.Com. 260 00:15:47,747 --> 00:15:49,480 Feel free to donate the big bucks. 261 00:15:51,617 --> 00:15:54,552 [angela] it just made me sick to my stomach. 262 00:15:54,620 --> 00:15:57,088 He's out there acting like he's this big shot, 263 00:15:57,156 --> 00:16:00,324 And she didn't even have a chance 264 00:16:00,393 --> 00:16:04,429 To see her 13th birthday and, you know, have her life. 265 00:16:05,765 --> 00:16:11,235 [unsettling music] 266 00:16:11,304 --> 00:16:13,104 [angela] after 20 years, 267 00:16:13,172 --> 00:16:15,206 I just felt like there was nothing I could do. 268 00:16:15,274 --> 00:16:18,476 I tried to do something, and that didn't work. 269 00:16:19,745 --> 00:16:22,546 [line trilling] 270 00:16:22,615 --> 00:16:24,115 It was a lot of waiting and a lot of years. 271 00:16:25,785 --> 00:16:27,485 [line trilling] 272 00:16:56,415 --> 00:16:58,316 All these years later? Seriously, now? 273 00:17:10,629 --> 00:17:13,031 This is the longest I've ever waited for a callback. 274 00:17:20,506 --> 00:17:22,940 There was kind of a pause or a silence. 275 00:17:23,009 --> 00:17:26,077 I had absolutely no idea what she was talking about. 276 00:17:40,326 --> 00:17:41,625 What the hell happened to that file? 277 00:17:41,694 --> 00:17:44,695 After everything I went through, 278 00:17:44,697 --> 00:17:45,797 And the greeley police department 279 00:17:45,865 --> 00:17:47,432 Doesn't have the file? 280 00:17:49,268 --> 00:17:52,303 No one had done anything. 281 00:17:52,371 --> 00:17:54,072 I was a bit put off. 282 00:17:54,874 --> 00:17:59,544 [cacophony of voices] 283 00:18:01,947 --> 00:18:04,882 [robert] I was completely surprised. 284 00:18:04,950 --> 00:18:07,118 So I asked her kind of, "well, what can you tell me?" 285 00:18:13,559 --> 00:18:17,195 [unnerving music] 286 00:18:17,197 --> 00:18:18,662 [angela] detective cash, I would say, 287 00:18:18,731 --> 00:18:22,233 Knows more about my life, my marriage with steve, 288 00:18:22,301 --> 00:18:24,435 Than anybody in the whole world. 289 00:18:24,504 --> 00:18:26,704 He heard it all. 290 00:18:26,772 --> 00:18:28,139 My whole story. 291 00:18:32,178 --> 00:18:34,712 [steve] together, we can make a safe, 292 00:18:34,780 --> 00:18:37,248 Prosperous, and moral idaho. 293 00:18:40,452 --> 00:18:44,588 Angela hicks had so much information to give. 294 00:18:44,590 --> 00:18:47,658 I had several conversations with her 295 00:18:47,727 --> 00:18:49,327 Over the next few months. 296 00:18:51,564 --> 00:18:52,663 She would bring copies of the things 297 00:18:52,732 --> 00:18:54,599 That she had found in the house. 298 00:18:54,667 --> 00:18:58,236 Notes, legal briefs, important writings. 299 00:18:58,304 --> 00:19:01,071 Angela would talk about his statements to her 300 00:19:01,140 --> 00:19:03,741 That made her blood run cold. 301 00:19:03,809 --> 00:19:08,145 The trip to california and dumping the dogs. 302 00:19:08,214 --> 00:19:10,548 The interesting fire suddenly. 303 00:19:10,616 --> 00:19:14,051 His behaviors, his running for political office 304 00:19:14,120 --> 00:19:15,987 For governor of idaho, 305 00:19:16,055 --> 00:19:18,489 How she suffered abuse at the hands of steve pankey, 306 00:19:18,558 --> 00:19:20,324 Physical, emotional. 307 00:19:22,628 --> 00:19:24,095 But the biggest development, I would say, 308 00:19:24,163 --> 00:19:28,299 Is angela had notations summarizing 309 00:19:28,367 --> 00:19:30,768 A conversation she had with steve pankey 310 00:19:30,836 --> 00:19:34,905 About shoe impressions that had been raked out of the snow 311 00:19:34,974 --> 00:19:36,774 Surrounding the matthews house. 312 00:19:36,842 --> 00:19:41,311 [dramatic music] 313 00:19:41,313 --> 00:19:42,780 [mike] my blood pressure rose. 314 00:19:44,917 --> 00:19:47,785 I'm like, "oh my god, steve knew the holdback information." 315 00:19:50,723 --> 00:19:53,858 The general public never, ever had any idea 316 00:19:53,926 --> 00:19:55,660 About the raking in the snow. 317 00:19:55,728 --> 00:19:57,828 Yet angela is making notes in '99 318 00:19:57,897 --> 00:20:00,331 That pankey knew about those rakings. 319 00:20:02,334 --> 00:20:04,468 [robert] knowing this was monumental. 320 00:20:04,536 --> 00:20:07,471 I had to sit back in my chair. 321 00:20:07,540 --> 00:20:10,874 Steve pankey would've been the one who was at the house 322 00:20:10,876 --> 00:20:12,343 December 20th of 1984. 323 00:20:14,780 --> 00:20:17,181 I'm like, "ah, dude, we are going to idaho. 324 00:20:17,249 --> 00:20:18,749 We have to go see him." 325 00:20:20,319 --> 00:20:24,955 But on July 24, 2019... 326 00:20:25,024 --> 00:20:26,590 The phone rang. 327 00:20:26,659 --> 00:20:28,659 [line trilling] 328 00:20:31,731 --> 00:20:33,264 [gloria] the detectives called us up. 329 00:20:33,332 --> 00:20:37,301 [line trilling] 330 00:20:37,370 --> 00:20:38,836 To be honest, we, uh... 331 00:20:38,904 --> 00:20:40,771 I didn't want to have that phone call. 332 00:20:45,578 --> 00:20:47,845 [line trilling] [sad music] 333 00:21:18,944 --> 00:21:19,744 I... 334 00:21:21,814 --> 00:21:25,316 I didn't want to find a body. 335 00:21:30,422 --> 00:21:33,624 This is county road 40, 34 and a half. 336 00:21:33,692 --> 00:21:36,927 "the road to nowhere," is what we called it. 337 00:21:36,929 --> 00:21:38,162 -Over here, right? -Yeah. 338 00:21:39,499 --> 00:21:44,301 An oil exploration crew had dug up 339 00:21:44,370 --> 00:21:46,337 What they believed were unidentified remains. 340 00:21:48,073 --> 00:21:51,842 I walked up to the remains and saw that the skull 341 00:21:51,911 --> 00:21:56,180 Had a penetrating gunshot wound through the forehead. 342 00:21:58,384 --> 00:22:02,519 When I saw the braces, 343 00:22:02,588 --> 00:22:05,389 I knew... 344 00:22:05,458 --> 00:22:08,058 That we had found jonelle matthews. 345 00:22:08,127 --> 00:22:09,827 [male reporter 1] this is a case the greeley police department 346 00:22:09,895 --> 00:22:12,596 Has been working to solve for more than 30 years. 347 00:22:12,665 --> 00:22:13,931 [male reporter 2] police say they've found the skull 348 00:22:13,999 --> 00:22:15,666 Belonging to a missing 12-year-old 349 00:22:15,735 --> 00:22:18,469 At an oil and gas site in weld county. 350 00:22:18,537 --> 00:22:21,805 [robert] it was like a slow-moving car crash. 351 00:22:21,807 --> 00:22:25,308 You know, filled with anxiety, with apprehension, 352 00:22:25,378 --> 00:22:29,813 Desire for it to actually be something positive in the case. 353 00:22:29,815 --> 00:22:31,515 [female reporter] this area where jonelle's body was found 354 00:22:31,583 --> 00:22:34,618 Is about 30 minutes away from her family's home in greeley. 355 00:22:34,686 --> 00:22:36,520 Greeley police and the other agencies involved 356 00:22:36,588 --> 00:22:38,289 Have been keeping very tight lipped about it. 357 00:22:41,493 --> 00:22:44,828 [jim] to get a phone call 35 years after it happened 358 00:22:44,830 --> 00:22:46,664 Was absolutely earthshaking. 359 00:22:48,801 --> 00:22:51,568 This has been something we have been waiting for. 360 00:22:51,637 --> 00:22:52,970 This was closure. 361 00:22:53,038 --> 00:22:54,104 [male reporter] jonelle matthews 362 00:22:54,173 --> 00:22:56,373 Was 12 years old when she went missing. 363 00:22:56,441 --> 00:22:57,975 Today, she'd be in her mid-40's. 364 00:23:02,447 --> 00:23:05,616 Never in my life... 365 00:23:05,684 --> 00:23:09,486 Did I think of that she was shot in the head, 366 00:23:09,488 --> 00:23:11,489 And how afraid she was. 367 00:23:21,066 --> 00:23:24,501 [mike] I was angry that somebody could do such a thing to her. 368 00:23:24,570 --> 00:23:27,838 The bullet, because it was at a downward trajectory, 369 00:23:27,907 --> 00:23:29,540 In my opinion, she was on her knees, 370 00:23:29,608 --> 00:23:31,542 Looking up at the individual that shot her. 371 00:23:33,545 --> 00:23:37,014 I wanted to find who that person was. 372 00:23:37,082 --> 00:23:39,983 And so we hit the road, robert and I, 373 00:23:40,052 --> 00:23:41,786 To drive out and see pankey. 374 00:23:50,296 --> 00:23:53,096 [unsettling music] 375 00:23:53,098 --> 00:23:55,632 [robert] mike prill and I made the nine-hour trip to idaho 376 00:23:55,701 --> 00:23:57,668 To attempt to contact steve pankey. 377 00:23:59,872 --> 00:24:01,771 Arriving up in idaho, 378 00:24:01,773 --> 00:24:03,840 Steve pankey answered the intercom. 379 00:24:03,909 --> 00:24:05,442 [steve] hello? 380 00:24:05,511 --> 00:24:08,379 He couldn't believe that we were at his front doorstep. 381 00:24:16,855 --> 00:24:17,555 [laughs] 382 00:24:35,007 --> 00:24:37,140 We never alluded that we were there 383 00:24:37,142 --> 00:24:40,711 To treat him as a suspect and that he was being charged. 384 00:25:03,802 --> 00:25:07,070 I explained to him that for him to get the deal he was seeking, 385 00:25:07,139 --> 00:25:08,772 It would have to be a deal for a crime 386 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:10,274 That I could arrest him for. 387 00:25:19,918 --> 00:25:22,786 [mike] retorts, "I need a deal." 388 00:25:22,788 --> 00:25:25,588 He's just told me, without saying it directly, 389 00:25:25,590 --> 00:25:26,956 I murdered jonelle, 390 00:25:26,958 --> 00:25:28,526 And I'm not gonna talk to you without a deal 391 00:25:28,594 --> 00:25:30,894 Because that's a crime from 1984 392 00:25:30,962 --> 00:25:32,329 That you could still arrest me for. 393 00:25:50,849 --> 00:25:53,016 [mike] when I got into our car, I told robert, 394 00:25:53,085 --> 00:25:55,352 "that's our guy. That is definitely our dude." 395 00:25:57,122 --> 00:26:00,057 [robert] we both felt that we had the guy. 396 00:26:00,125 --> 00:26:03,526 The sense was that we had the guy. 397 00:26:03,528 --> 00:26:05,162 We now needed to prove it. 398 00:26:05,230 --> 00:26:11,502 [tense music] 399 00:26:11,570 --> 00:26:13,904 [robert] we consulted with the district attorney's office. 400 00:26:13,973 --> 00:26:16,473 Their response was, "we need more." 401 00:26:20,479 --> 00:26:22,546 I get a phone call, and I'm thinking to myself, 402 00:26:22,614 --> 00:26:24,982 "I can't believe what I'm hearing." 403 00:26:25,050 --> 00:26:26,116 This is as big as it gets. 404 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:30,587 Fortunately at that point there was enough evidence 405 00:26:30,656 --> 00:26:33,757 That we could write a warrant to get into pankey's house. 406 00:26:33,826 --> 00:26:37,361 [suspenseful music] 407 00:26:45,104 --> 00:26:47,938 Police department. Search warrant. 408 00:26:48,006 --> 00:26:50,140 The same "steve pankey" meant nothing to anybody. 409 00:26:52,010 --> 00:26:53,143 Police, search warrant! 410 00:26:53,212 --> 00:26:54,744 But all of a sudden, 411 00:26:54,746 --> 00:26:55,613 When you're talking about somebody 412 00:26:55,681 --> 00:26:56,846 Who's running for the governor, 413 00:26:56,916 --> 00:26:58,181 It's like you've taken 414 00:26:58,250 --> 00:27:00,217 Two complete, irrelevant concepts 415 00:27:00,285 --> 00:27:01,918 And smashed them together in one person. 416 00:27:01,987 --> 00:27:04,521 That's what it felt like, is he's an enigma. 417 00:27:04,590 --> 00:27:06,589 Is he a criminal? Is he a witness? 418 00:27:06,659 --> 00:27:09,259 Who is he? 419 00:27:09,328 --> 00:27:11,962 [mike] the tactical team hit pankey's house. 420 00:27:12,031 --> 00:27:14,697 But pankey was not at home. 421 00:27:14,699 --> 00:27:18,235 He had no couches, no televisions, no radios. 422 00:27:18,303 --> 00:27:20,871 He had a picture of himself from his-- 423 00:27:20,939 --> 00:27:23,206 Perhaps his high school years hanging on the wall. 424 00:27:23,208 --> 00:27:27,044 He had three cell phones and two laptops. 425 00:27:27,112 --> 00:27:29,713 And then he had a very expensive, 426 00:27:29,782 --> 00:27:32,249 Brand-new gun safe. 427 00:27:32,317 --> 00:27:34,918 It was almost like he was living in his own self-imposed prison. 428 00:27:37,322 --> 00:27:40,958 [robert] we seized 14 or so handguns, 429 00:27:41,026 --> 00:27:44,060 Numerous cell phones, and laptop computers. 430 00:27:44,062 --> 00:27:49,032 [unsettling music] 431 00:27:49,100 --> 00:27:50,367 [michael] results of the search warrants 432 00:27:50,435 --> 00:27:53,703 Of his computers was an utter goldmine. 433 00:27:53,773 --> 00:27:56,073 He would search for jonelle thousands of times. 434 00:27:58,009 --> 00:27:59,243 And it became very clear that 435 00:27:59,311 --> 00:28:01,178 Once he learned jonelle's remains were found, 436 00:28:01,246 --> 00:28:04,981 He was up on his computer for the better part of 36 hours. 437 00:28:05,050 --> 00:28:07,184 He never went to sleep. 438 00:28:07,252 --> 00:28:12,089 [mike] I took a deep dive into pankey's life in colorado. 439 00:28:12,157 --> 00:28:16,159 Robert would be tasked with locating cases filed against 440 00:28:16,228 --> 00:28:19,296 Pankey throughout idaho during the years that he lived there. 441 00:28:19,364 --> 00:28:21,531 And we started amassing police reports 442 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,201 And court documents. 443 00:28:24,269 --> 00:28:27,204 [robert] I'm reaching out to various records departments, 444 00:28:27,272 --> 00:28:29,039 Getting documents from legal actions 445 00:28:29,107 --> 00:28:32,042 That he's involved with. 446 00:28:32,111 --> 00:28:34,711 In the 1990s, he would make 447 00:28:34,780 --> 00:28:37,614 Exceedingly incriminating statements 448 00:28:37,683 --> 00:28:41,251 Saying that he is a master manipulator. 449 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:43,553 [michael] he's writing things to the idaho supreme court 450 00:28:43,622 --> 00:28:45,923 Believing that he would receive the death penalty 451 00:28:45,925 --> 00:28:47,824 In exchange for providing information about jonelle. 452 00:28:47,893 --> 00:28:49,726 Who says that? 453 00:28:49,795 --> 00:28:51,695 [mike] in his many, many case files, 454 00:28:51,763 --> 00:28:54,531 He was so amazingly slick 455 00:28:54,599 --> 00:28:57,868 That he controlled both the courts and law enforcement 456 00:28:57,936 --> 00:29:00,938 With the use of his pen and his own personality. 457 00:29:03,475 --> 00:29:06,643 [michael] we got one particular report from idaho. 458 00:29:06,712 --> 00:29:08,779 A police officer was on a traffic stop. 459 00:29:08,847 --> 00:29:11,982 And he starts videotaping the police stop. 460 00:29:12,050 --> 00:29:14,317 She confronts him, tells him to step away. 461 00:29:14,386 --> 00:29:16,019 And he starts talking and saying 462 00:29:16,087 --> 00:29:19,122 That he's buried more bodies than she could possibly imagine. 463 00:29:19,190 --> 00:29:21,090 She stops and says, "oh yeah? Where?" 464 00:29:21,092 --> 00:29:22,159 "well, in colorado." 465 00:29:25,197 --> 00:29:27,297 This is back in the late '90s, long before pankey's ever on 466 00:29:27,366 --> 00:29:28,999 Anybody in colorado's radar screen. 467 00:29:33,305 --> 00:29:35,038 [robert] for decades, 468 00:29:35,106 --> 00:29:37,440 A monster tapped on the shoulder of law enforcement 469 00:29:37,442 --> 00:29:40,177 Because he couldn't help but to do it. 470 00:29:42,213 --> 00:29:45,682 To get the attention that he thought that he deserved. 471 00:29:47,753 --> 00:29:51,155 This was part of what he does. This is part of steve pankey. 472 00:29:56,194 --> 00:29:57,194 [michael] we were sitting in our office. 473 00:29:57,262 --> 00:29:58,861 And one day, detective cash comes over and says, 474 00:29:58,863 --> 00:30:00,363 "you're not gonna believe this." 475 00:30:00,432 --> 00:30:01,764 [male interviewer] so steve, why don't we 476 00:30:01,766 --> 00:30:03,767 Just start from the beginning? 477 00:30:03,835 --> 00:30:07,003 Steve pankey was going on a media crusade. 478 00:30:07,072 --> 00:30:10,006 Prill gets right in my face and he starts spitting. 479 00:30:10,075 --> 00:30:14,144 Like, he says, "steve, I need to talk to you." 480 00:30:14,212 --> 00:30:15,746 [michael] we looked at each other and said, 481 00:30:15,814 --> 00:30:18,815 "what in the world is he doing? Why is he doing this?" 482 00:30:18,884 --> 00:30:20,883 [steve] it's not like I don't have compassion. 483 00:30:20,885 --> 00:30:22,953 It wasn't until my wife and I 484 00:30:23,021 --> 00:30:26,523 And our five-year-old returned from california. 485 00:30:26,525 --> 00:30:28,358 [angela] all of a sudden, you could put in the name 486 00:30:28,427 --> 00:30:30,193 "steve pankey" in a search engine, 487 00:30:30,261 --> 00:30:31,762 And it would just have link after link 488 00:30:31,830 --> 00:30:35,365 To either a newspaper article, a television interview, 489 00:30:35,434 --> 00:30:37,868 A radio interview, a podcast interview. 490 00:30:40,906 --> 00:30:44,174 I'm a true crime/ missing persons podcaster. 491 00:30:44,242 --> 00:30:46,710 I've covered 317 disappearances. 492 00:30:48,513 --> 00:30:51,147 Steve contacted me to tell the world 493 00:30:51,216 --> 00:30:53,183 About why he was innocent 494 00:30:53,251 --> 00:30:55,952 And did not kill jonelle matthews. 495 00:30:56,021 --> 00:30:57,054 That was a first. 496 00:31:03,362 --> 00:31:06,696 [upbeat music] 497 00:31:06,765 --> 00:31:09,666 Always friendly. Always gracious. 498 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:18,541 What steve has done over the last 35 years is not unusual. 499 00:31:18,543 --> 00:31:20,777 I have many disappearances where there are steve pankeys. 500 00:31:22,247 --> 00:31:25,015 People who take an unusual interest 501 00:31:25,083 --> 00:31:26,683 In a disappearance or a murder. 502 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:28,986 He's a strange cat. 503 00:31:34,459 --> 00:31:37,794 [ed] I came away thinking... 504 00:31:37,863 --> 00:31:39,363 I have doubts whether steve pankey killed jonelle. 505 00:31:49,374 --> 00:31:51,608 [robert] the three-decade mystery 506 00:31:51,676 --> 00:31:55,078 Of who had taken jonelle matthews was over. 507 00:31:58,383 --> 00:32:02,052 We'd taken the correct steps to end this nightmare 508 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:04,554 That had been going on for, at that time, 38 years. 509 00:32:04,623 --> 00:32:07,190 [knocking on door] 510 00:32:08,293 --> 00:32:09,692 [police officer 1] contact. 511 00:32:09,762 --> 00:32:11,227 [police officer 2] would you come outside, please? 512 00:32:11,296 --> 00:32:14,197 We need to talk to you, steven. 513 00:32:14,266 --> 00:32:15,599 [police officer 1] steve, we have a warrant for your arrest. 514 00:32:17,569 --> 00:32:19,602 [michael] it is with great honor today that we announce 515 00:32:19,671 --> 00:32:21,337 That the grand jury indicted an individual 516 00:32:21,406 --> 00:32:23,073 Named steven dana pankey 517 00:32:23,141 --> 00:32:26,176 For the kidnapping and murder of jonelle matthews. 518 00:32:26,244 --> 00:32:27,677 Can I get my phone? 519 00:32:27,746 --> 00:32:29,079 [female reporter] steve pankey was once a candidate 520 00:32:29,147 --> 00:32:30,747 For governor of idaho. 521 00:32:30,815 --> 00:32:33,183 And now he's charged with killing a girl 522 00:32:33,251 --> 00:32:36,886 Who vanished 36 years ago. 523 00:32:36,955 --> 00:32:39,022 [michael] please understand that while he has been indicted, 524 00:32:39,024 --> 00:32:41,791 That he is still presumed innocent, 525 00:32:41,860 --> 00:32:44,261 Unless and until these charges are proven 526 00:32:44,329 --> 00:32:45,729 Beyond a reasonable doubt in a court of law. 527 00:32:47,932 --> 00:32:49,699 [mike] the second thing that should never have happened 528 00:32:49,701 --> 00:32:51,300 Just happened. 529 00:32:51,370 --> 00:32:53,270 Now, not only has jonelle actually been found, 530 00:32:53,338 --> 00:32:55,705 We just arrested somebody. 531 00:32:55,774 --> 00:32:57,373 [male reporter] steve pankey was arrested at his home 532 00:32:57,375 --> 00:32:58,875 In meridian, idaho, 533 00:32:58,877 --> 00:33:01,944 Facing charges of first degree murder and kidnapping. 534 00:33:01,946 --> 00:33:03,380 [female reporter] pankey is being held without bond 535 00:33:03,448 --> 00:33:05,648 At the ada county jail in boise, idaho 536 00:33:05,717 --> 00:33:07,417 And is waiting extradition to colorado. 537 00:33:10,655 --> 00:33:14,124 We had never heard the name before. 538 00:33:14,192 --> 00:33:18,528 Why would a person like him wanna do this jonelle, 539 00:33:18,597 --> 00:33:21,465 Spend the time and the effort to run for governor? 540 00:33:23,502 --> 00:33:25,268 To me, there's no stereotype for a killer. 541 00:33:27,372 --> 00:33:30,407 [gloria] why he would pick her? 542 00:33:30,475 --> 00:33:31,742 I don't know. 543 00:33:36,515 --> 00:33:38,648 [angela] it was kind of a high-low feeling. 544 00:33:38,717 --> 00:33:40,050 On the one hand, like, 545 00:33:40,118 --> 00:33:42,452 "oh my god, I was right! I was right!" 546 00:33:42,521 --> 00:33:44,687 And on the other hand, it was like, 547 00:33:44,689 --> 00:33:48,424 "oh my god, I was right. I was right." 548 00:33:48,493 --> 00:33:54,998 [somber music] 549 00:33:55,066 --> 00:33:56,533 [male reporter] jim and gloria matthews 550 00:33:56,601 --> 00:33:57,934 Sat in a weld county courtroom 551 00:33:58,002 --> 00:34:00,370 As steve pankey pleaded not guilty. 552 00:34:01,973 --> 00:34:06,442 Steve pankey has been getting off for 37 years 553 00:34:06,511 --> 00:34:08,511 For murdering my sister. 554 00:34:08,513 --> 00:34:10,947 The hands of justice were moving for us, for jonelle. 555 00:34:12,784 --> 00:34:16,586 [gloria] I hardly even looked at him in the courtroom. 556 00:34:16,655 --> 00:34:20,590 I didn't care anymore. I just wanted him guilty. 557 00:34:20,659 --> 00:34:23,526 [michael] your goal since December 20th of 1984 558 00:34:23,528 --> 00:34:25,328 Has been self-preservation. Would you agree? 559 00:34:26,931 --> 00:34:29,032 Not necessarily. 560 00:34:29,100 --> 00:34:33,470 In the courtroom, he was cagey, guarded, 561 00:34:33,538 --> 00:34:35,605 Demanding a deal. 562 00:34:35,674 --> 00:34:38,274 [michael] you're asking for immunity, demanding it, 563 00:34:38,343 --> 00:34:40,677 For murder and kidnapping 564 00:34:40,745 --> 00:34:44,747 Before you'll say anything about jonelle matthews, right? 565 00:34:44,749 --> 00:34:46,249 You don't know what's in my head. 566 00:34:48,553 --> 00:34:51,988 It was him continuing to gaslight the public, 567 00:34:52,056 --> 00:34:54,757 To manipulate what was happening. 568 00:34:54,759 --> 00:34:56,492 [michael] you were probably the first person on the planet 569 00:34:56,561 --> 00:34:58,328 To assert she was deceased. You know that? 570 00:35:00,065 --> 00:35:01,264 That's not true. 571 00:35:04,036 --> 00:35:06,736 [ed] so I knew there was going to be a trial. 572 00:35:06,805 --> 00:35:09,606 I didn't know I was going to be part of it. 573 00:35:09,608 --> 00:35:13,709 [steve] in 1977, I was a youth pastor 574 00:35:13,779 --> 00:35:16,813 At sunny view church of the nazarene. 575 00:35:16,881 --> 00:35:19,916 [ed] they chose to play the podcast. 576 00:35:19,984 --> 00:35:22,085 The goal was to show that steve had told 577 00:35:22,153 --> 00:35:26,322 Contradicting stories over the last 38 years. 578 00:35:26,391 --> 00:35:28,058 However, lying to me is not a precursor 579 00:35:28,126 --> 00:35:29,893 To somebody being a murderer. 580 00:35:32,130 --> 00:35:35,531 Never could prove that he knew the family. 581 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:37,067 Never could prove that he owned a gun of that caliber 582 00:35:37,135 --> 00:35:39,502 That was used to jonelle. 583 00:35:39,571 --> 00:35:41,571 Had they even been able to prove 584 00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:44,807 That steve was on that street even that day? 585 00:35:44,876 --> 00:35:46,409 They couldn't even do that. 586 00:35:49,013 --> 00:35:52,048 [lacy] so this was my first homicide trial. 587 00:35:52,116 --> 00:35:54,150 At the first meeting, it was like, 588 00:35:54,218 --> 00:35:55,585 "are we sure we have the right guy?" 589 00:35:57,856 --> 00:35:59,656 Juries today expect dna. 590 00:36:02,026 --> 00:36:02,893 [michael] the biggest problem we had 591 00:36:02,961 --> 00:36:05,628 Is the inability to forensically link pankey 592 00:36:05,697 --> 00:36:07,864 Either to the matthews home, 593 00:36:07,932 --> 00:36:09,732 To the location where jonelle's body was found. 594 00:36:09,801 --> 00:36:10,967 We couldn't do it through dna. 595 00:36:13,438 --> 00:36:16,006 The reality is it's fragile evidence 596 00:36:16,074 --> 00:36:22,178 When it lays in soft sand soil for 36 years. 597 00:36:22,246 --> 00:36:23,946 So there was no expectation of recovering 598 00:36:24,016 --> 00:36:27,550 Any forensic evidence. 599 00:36:27,619 --> 00:36:29,619 [lacy] how do we explain this to a jury? 600 00:36:29,688 --> 00:36:31,721 How do we explain almost a 40-year investigation 601 00:36:31,790 --> 00:36:34,390 And make it simple that a layperson 602 00:36:34,459 --> 00:36:36,826 Who's looking at this from the outside can understand it? 603 00:36:39,764 --> 00:36:42,032 [mike] we had overwhelming amounts 604 00:36:42,100 --> 00:36:45,468 Of circumstantial evidence. 605 00:36:45,537 --> 00:36:47,403 During the search of his home, 606 00:36:47,472 --> 00:36:50,340 I encountered a copy of a book that pankey authored 607 00:36:50,408 --> 00:36:52,809 Entitled "graveyards." 608 00:36:52,877 --> 00:36:55,878 It's a story about an individual named david darkson 609 00:36:55,947 --> 00:37:00,049 That has a falling-out with the nazarene church in greeley 610 00:37:00,118 --> 00:37:03,886 And all the long has an incredible grudge 611 00:37:03,955 --> 00:37:05,555 Towards a woman named deb moon. 612 00:37:08,993 --> 00:37:11,161 As I'm reading this book, I realize 613 00:37:11,229 --> 00:37:13,163 Everything was essentially true, 614 00:37:13,231 --> 00:37:15,598 And david darkson is pankey. 615 00:37:15,667 --> 00:37:18,835 In 1977, deb moon, 616 00:37:18,903 --> 00:37:21,570 A college student attending the nazarene church, 617 00:37:21,572 --> 00:37:23,506 Files a sexual assault complaint against pankey. 618 00:37:26,110 --> 00:37:27,643 [lacy] michael rourke and I called her, 619 00:37:27,645 --> 00:37:30,046 And miss moon told us that 620 00:37:30,114 --> 00:37:31,715 She was the jonelle matthews that got away. 621 00:37:34,118 --> 00:37:37,653 She said pankey drove miss moon out into the country 622 00:37:37,722 --> 00:37:39,088 In weld county 623 00:37:39,090 --> 00:37:42,258 And he raped her for four hours. 624 00:37:42,260 --> 00:37:43,960 The weld county district attorney's office 625 00:37:44,028 --> 00:37:46,096 Filed charges on him. 626 00:37:46,164 --> 00:37:48,297 It was a male prosecutor. 627 00:37:48,299 --> 00:37:53,235 And told her this is a he said versus she said. 628 00:37:53,237 --> 00:37:54,671 And the charges were dropped. 629 00:37:57,208 --> 00:37:59,809 His name ended up in the newspaper, 630 00:37:59,878 --> 00:38:04,414 And he got excommunicated from sunny view nazarene church. 631 00:38:04,482 --> 00:38:07,183 And then he starts spiraling in hatred, 632 00:38:07,252 --> 00:38:08,885 Having members physically pick him up 633 00:38:08,953 --> 00:38:11,554 Out of the congregation and forcibly remove him. 634 00:38:18,196 --> 00:38:20,663 The testimony about deb moon's case 635 00:38:20,665 --> 00:38:22,065 We could not use in the trial. 636 00:38:24,335 --> 00:38:25,802 The concern there is that the jury 637 00:38:25,870 --> 00:38:28,104 Would misuse the information and say, 638 00:38:28,172 --> 00:38:30,106 Well, if he raped miss moon, 639 00:38:30,174 --> 00:38:31,708 Then he had to have kidnapped and murdered jonelle. 640 00:38:33,644 --> 00:38:35,879 But we found his motive. 641 00:38:35,947 --> 00:38:39,616 He was angry and stalking members of the church. 642 00:38:39,684 --> 00:38:43,052 And deb moon was the source of this hatred. 643 00:38:43,121 --> 00:38:44,053 [michael] you told us that you began 644 00:38:44,122 --> 00:38:47,590 A very bitter relationship with 645 00:38:47,659 --> 00:38:49,725 Sunny view church of the nazarene, 646 00:38:49,794 --> 00:38:50,660 Russ ross. 647 00:38:50,729 --> 00:38:52,995 Because you hated those men? 648 00:38:52,997 --> 00:38:55,798 Yes, sir. 649 00:38:55,867 --> 00:38:58,000 [lacy] detective cash told us 650 00:38:58,069 --> 00:39:00,303 Mr. Pankey had a vendetta to get after the man 651 00:39:00,371 --> 00:39:03,205 By the name russell ross. 652 00:39:03,275 --> 00:39:06,342 Turns out that he was part of the same congregation. 653 00:39:06,410 --> 00:39:09,178 Russell ross happened to drive jonelle matthews home 654 00:39:09,180 --> 00:39:12,748 The night of December 20, 1984. 655 00:39:12,817 --> 00:39:15,151 And he was also pankey's former boss 656 00:39:15,219 --> 00:39:18,121 And part of a lawsuit that mr. Pankey had engaged in. 657 00:39:21,325 --> 00:39:23,759 [michael] we had documented evidence to show 658 00:39:23,828 --> 00:39:27,296 That pankey had made efforts to harass and follow russ ross. 659 00:39:27,365 --> 00:39:28,698 He coupled the hatred of the church 660 00:39:28,767 --> 00:39:30,166 With the hatred of russ ross, 661 00:39:30,234 --> 00:39:32,502 And we had our belief that pankey 662 00:39:32,570 --> 00:39:34,804 Was following russ ross the night 663 00:39:34,873 --> 00:39:36,806 That he dropped jonelle matthews off at her home. 664 00:39:40,778 --> 00:39:42,778 [robert] there was no doubt in our mind 665 00:39:42,780 --> 00:39:43,812 That that evening, steve pankey 666 00:39:43,814 --> 00:39:45,047 Followed russ ross, 667 00:39:45,116 --> 00:39:49,085 Saw that jonelle walked into a dark house. 668 00:39:49,153 --> 00:39:51,821 He knew that that moment was his opportunity 669 00:39:51,890 --> 00:39:53,857 To take revenge on everybody who had wronged him. 670 00:40:00,765 --> 00:40:02,565 [angela] I was subpoenaed to testify. 671 00:40:03,735 --> 00:40:06,035 It was so frightening. 672 00:40:06,037 --> 00:40:08,538 And I knew that he was gonna be right there in the courtroom. 673 00:40:08,606 --> 00:40:10,540 [male reporter] the ex-wife of a man accused of 674 00:40:10,608 --> 00:40:14,177 Murdering a 12-year-old girl decades ago took the stand, 675 00:40:14,245 --> 00:40:15,912 And she remembered the time her husband, steve pankey, 676 00:40:15,914 --> 00:40:18,447 Brought up jonelle matthews. 677 00:40:18,449 --> 00:40:19,982 [angela] I had been told, 678 00:40:19,984 --> 00:40:22,552 "you can't make any kind of prejudicial statements. 679 00:40:22,620 --> 00:40:24,754 "make your statements as brief as possible, 680 00:40:24,823 --> 00:40:26,689 Five words or less, if you can." 681 00:40:28,993 --> 00:40:30,560 [lacy] we had to have the conversation with angela 682 00:40:30,628 --> 00:40:33,629 That the judge had restricted her testimony 683 00:40:33,698 --> 00:40:36,799 To a sanitized fashion. 684 00:40:36,801 --> 00:40:39,435 "the jury will not hear about any physical acts of violence 685 00:40:39,504 --> 00:40:41,938 Mr. Pankey perpetrated against you" 686 00:40:42,006 --> 00:40:43,807 Because it was overly prejudicial. 687 00:40:46,911 --> 00:40:49,445 [angela] I felt like I had to give people enough information 688 00:40:49,514 --> 00:40:51,447 So they understand what happened, 689 00:40:51,516 --> 00:40:54,650 But I didn't feel like I was able to do that. 690 00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:57,587 Steve says, "don't worry about the dogs. 691 00:40:57,655 --> 00:41:00,757 I dumped the dogs. Get us ready to go." 692 00:41:02,794 --> 00:41:04,694 All the da's and the detectives said, 693 00:41:04,762 --> 00:41:06,662 "oh, you did so well! You did so well! 694 00:41:06,731 --> 00:41:08,364 You did such a good job!" 695 00:41:08,433 --> 00:41:10,300 And all I could think was, "I just sucked." 696 00:41:13,238 --> 00:41:14,904 I just didn't leave with a good feeling. 697 00:41:20,378 --> 00:41:21,710 [michael] at the conclusion of that trial, we felt good. 698 00:41:21,780 --> 00:41:24,246 We felt like we had presented to that jury 699 00:41:24,316 --> 00:41:25,714 A complete picture, 700 00:41:25,784 --> 00:41:28,017 Almost a 200-page document that served as a summary 701 00:41:28,086 --> 00:41:29,686 Of the entire investigation. 702 00:41:31,055 --> 00:41:32,822 When you put that together 703 00:41:32,890 --> 00:41:35,057 And you spend the time to read it from start to finish, 704 00:41:35,059 --> 00:41:37,694 It reads as, you got the right guy. 705 00:41:39,364 --> 00:41:40,630 [train rumbling] [bell dinging] 706 00:41:40,698 --> 00:41:41,798 [train whistle] 707 00:41:47,071 --> 00:41:49,505 [jennifer] I was a little bit undecided about 708 00:41:49,574 --> 00:41:53,509 Steve pankey's guilt, 709 00:41:53,577 --> 00:41:55,645 Just listening to what was presented in the trial. 710 00:41:57,415 --> 00:41:59,449 Anticipating was daunting. 711 00:42:03,655 --> 00:42:05,721 [michael] we got a note from the jury to the judge. 712 00:42:05,790 --> 00:42:08,624 And it says, "we don't believe 713 00:42:08,693 --> 00:42:10,493 We're gonna be able to reach a unanimous verdict." 714 00:42:12,797 --> 00:42:14,330 [male reporter] we go to weld county, 715 00:42:14,398 --> 00:42:15,798 Where a jury is split on what happened 716 00:42:15,866 --> 00:42:17,499 To young jonelle matthews. 717 00:42:17,569 --> 00:42:18,668 [female reporter] the jury couldn't agree 718 00:42:18,736 --> 00:42:21,003 If steve pankey is innocent or guilty 719 00:42:21,005 --> 00:42:22,672 In her kidnapping and murder. 720 00:42:22,740 --> 00:42:25,508 This morning, a judge declared a mistrial in the case. 721 00:42:27,612 --> 00:42:29,345 [jennifer] I didn't know exactly what that meant. 722 00:42:30,949 --> 00:42:33,683 You might think it's so blatantly obvious, 723 00:42:33,751 --> 00:42:37,554 But you don't know what 12 other people are thinking. 724 00:42:39,924 --> 00:42:42,358 Our family has to wait again for justice for jonelle. 725 00:42:45,730 --> 00:42:49,499 [gloria] I was so disappointed. 726 00:42:49,567 --> 00:42:55,338 22,000 pages of testimonies, documents, 727 00:42:55,406 --> 00:42:59,642 And it all didn't mean anything because three of the jurors said 728 00:42:59,711 --> 00:43:02,679 That we couldn't prove that he was on the premises. 729 00:43:06,450 --> 00:43:07,784 What else can we do? 730 00:43:11,889 --> 00:43:13,622 No way we were gonna give up. 731 00:43:13,692 --> 00:43:15,291 And I told the matthews family right away 732 00:43:15,359 --> 00:43:17,393 That there's no question in our minds we'll be back. 733 00:43:21,265 --> 00:43:24,400 But this was gonna be a massive undertaking. 734 00:43:28,739 --> 00:43:30,940 Within two hours, prill's writing a to-do list, 735 00:43:31,008 --> 00:43:32,842 Things that happened during the course of his trial 736 00:43:32,910 --> 00:43:35,345 That we think had opened doors to 737 00:43:35,413 --> 00:43:37,547 Other pieces of information, other evidence, 738 00:43:37,615 --> 00:43:40,616 Other witnesses that we couldn't call the first time. 739 00:43:40,685 --> 00:43:42,952 Pankey opened the doors for us when he testified. 740 00:43:43,020 --> 00:43:44,287 That was significant. 741 00:43:46,190 --> 00:43:48,491 [robert] we knew that there was a lot of things in this case 742 00:43:48,559 --> 00:43:50,759 That had to with steve. We couldn't get into it. 743 00:43:50,829 --> 00:43:52,828 We couldn't talk about deb moon 744 00:43:52,897 --> 00:43:55,831 And the domestic abuse towards angela hicks. 745 00:43:55,900 --> 00:43:58,768 But if the defense opens the door 746 00:43:58,836 --> 00:44:00,502 To a piece of evidence that has to do with 747 00:44:00,572 --> 00:44:03,705 Something that we can't provide-- 748 00:44:03,707 --> 00:44:04,640 If they open the door to something, 749 00:44:04,709 --> 00:44:06,042 Then we can... 750 00:44:06,110 --> 00:44:08,710 We can start talking about it. 751 00:44:08,712 --> 00:44:11,113 I never imagined that she would say 752 00:44:11,115 --> 00:44:14,650 All the things that she said about me. 753 00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:17,487 In the first trial, mr. Pankey painted angela 754 00:44:17,555 --> 00:44:21,723 As a vindictive, bitter, scorned woman. 755 00:44:21,725 --> 00:44:22,858 [michael] any other reason you can think of 756 00:44:22,927 --> 00:44:24,526 That she would get on the stand 757 00:44:24,596 --> 00:44:26,996 And lie about something that happened 37 years ago? 758 00:44:27,064 --> 00:44:28,765 A woman scorned. That's all I know. 759 00:44:30,568 --> 00:44:32,701 [lacy] he taunted us with what we knew 760 00:44:32,771 --> 00:44:35,004 And didn't have a court order to get into. 761 00:44:35,073 --> 00:44:37,873 But him painting her as a scorned woman 762 00:44:37,942 --> 00:44:42,478 Allowed us to explain the psychological abuse 763 00:44:42,546 --> 00:44:44,347 That she had endured through her marriage with pankey. 764 00:44:46,651 --> 00:44:49,751 [michael] this elaborate lie that you have talked about 765 00:44:49,753 --> 00:44:52,689 Is to get back at russ ross, 766 00:44:52,757 --> 00:44:54,824 Sunny view church of the nazarene, 767 00:44:54,892 --> 00:44:57,693 And the greeley police department. 768 00:44:57,761 --> 00:44:59,662 That's partially right. 769 00:45:00,898 --> 00:45:03,132 When mr. Pankey testified, 770 00:45:03,201 --> 00:45:05,935 He told us as much on the stand himself, 771 00:45:06,003 --> 00:45:07,569 In his own words, 772 00:45:07,639 --> 00:45:12,842 That everything about jonelle stems from deb moon. 773 00:45:12,910 --> 00:45:14,377 [michael] are you trying to get back at anybody else? 774 00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:20,116 That's part of the protected stuff. 775 00:45:20,184 --> 00:45:23,886 [michael] excuse me? What protected stuff? 776 00:45:23,954 --> 00:45:28,024 The stuff that's-- the judge ruled on. 777 00:45:28,092 --> 00:45:31,461 [lacy] he talked about it being pure hatred with the church, 778 00:45:31,529 --> 00:45:36,065 And that it all stems from 1977, but that's the protected stuff, 779 00:45:36,133 --> 00:45:38,734 And you're not allowed to go there. 780 00:45:38,802 --> 00:45:42,872 And finally it allowed us to at least argue 781 00:45:42,940 --> 00:45:45,875 That deb moon's instance was connected with 782 00:45:45,943 --> 00:45:47,110 Jonelle's disappearance. 783 00:45:49,647 --> 00:45:52,214 At that point, we had the judge's blessing 784 00:45:52,216 --> 00:45:54,050 To bring in miss moon. 785 00:45:55,953 --> 00:45:57,186 And she said yes. 786 00:46:02,861 --> 00:46:04,260 [mike] most importantly, 787 00:46:04,328 --> 00:46:07,229 I knew all along 788 00:46:07,231 --> 00:46:08,998 That pankey had filed a complaint 789 00:46:09,066 --> 00:46:12,068 Against the greeley police department in 1985. 790 00:46:14,105 --> 00:46:16,172 And made a statement that he knows specifically 791 00:46:16,240 --> 00:46:18,641 That two cops lived on the same street as jonelle. 792 00:46:21,445 --> 00:46:23,179 So for pankey to know that any cop, 793 00:46:23,247 --> 00:46:25,648 Let alone two cops, lived on the same street, 794 00:46:25,716 --> 00:46:29,885 He would've had to conduct his own private surveillance. 795 00:46:29,954 --> 00:46:32,788 But in his podcast and his other interviews, 796 00:46:32,857 --> 00:46:35,257 He would assert that he had never been in that neighborhood 797 00:46:35,326 --> 00:46:37,126 And really didn't even know where it was at. 798 00:46:39,297 --> 00:46:41,130 But we couldn't use that in the first trial 799 00:46:41,199 --> 00:46:45,000 Because the perceiving witness is dead. 800 00:46:45,069 --> 00:46:47,069 But between the first and second trial, 801 00:46:47,138 --> 00:46:50,672 Angela found yet more writings by him 802 00:46:50,674 --> 00:46:51,507 With a whole different story. 803 00:46:53,878 --> 00:46:56,178 [angela] I had kept all of this documentation 804 00:46:56,247 --> 00:46:59,615 That I provided to the sun valley police in the '90s. 805 00:46:59,683 --> 00:47:02,585 And I could see on one of the piece of papers, 806 00:47:02,653 --> 00:47:06,856 It said, "two cops living within a block of jonelle matthews." 807 00:47:10,595 --> 00:47:11,694 [mike] couldn't believe it when I saw it. 808 00:47:14,165 --> 00:47:16,632 I called rob and I'm like, "dude, you have to hear this." 809 00:47:16,701 --> 00:47:17,934 And I could hear him jumping up and down 810 00:47:18,002 --> 00:47:19,768 On the other end of the line. 811 00:47:19,837 --> 00:47:22,204 Like, we finally get to introduce this evidence. 812 00:47:22,273 --> 00:47:23,805 And it's coming in through pankey. 813 00:47:23,807 --> 00:47:25,541 He wrote it! 814 00:47:25,610 --> 00:47:27,143 So now we're able to tell a jury 815 00:47:27,211 --> 00:47:29,878 That pankey was conducting surveillance 816 00:47:29,948 --> 00:47:32,148 In jonelle's neighborhood before she passed away. 817 00:47:34,985 --> 00:47:35,751 [female reporter] thirty-eight years 818 00:47:35,820 --> 00:47:37,086 Since a 12-year-old girl in greeley 819 00:47:37,154 --> 00:47:38,987 Was kidnapped and murder. 820 00:47:38,989 --> 00:47:40,856 Today, the man accused of killing jonelle matthews 821 00:47:40,925 --> 00:47:43,158 Was back in court for his second trial. 822 00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:44,126 [male reporter] jonelle matthews is a name 823 00:47:44,194 --> 00:47:47,196 That we've heard in colorado for decades now. 824 00:47:47,264 --> 00:47:48,998 So once again, steve pankey was in the courtroom 825 00:47:49,066 --> 00:47:50,800 Listening on headphones 826 00:47:50,868 --> 00:47:52,868 While county da michael rourke argues 827 00:47:52,936 --> 00:47:55,671 Pankey is guilty based on things he said 828 00:47:55,739 --> 00:47:57,173 And how he's acted over the years. 829 00:47:58,943 --> 00:48:00,509 [lazy] when deb testified, 830 00:48:00,511 --> 00:48:02,244 She tells her story very factually. 831 00:48:02,313 --> 00:48:03,779 She's eloquent. 832 00:48:03,848 --> 00:48:06,248 And she takes a moment, and she turns around, 833 00:48:06,317 --> 00:48:08,984 And she faces mr. Pankey. 834 00:48:09,053 --> 00:48:11,020 And she looks him dead in the eyes 835 00:48:11,088 --> 00:48:13,389 Until he looks away first. 836 00:48:13,457 --> 00:48:15,825 And I think that moment was 837 00:48:15,893 --> 00:48:18,160 All the satisfaction she needed out of this trial. 838 00:48:18,229 --> 00:48:21,163 [dramatic music] 839 00:48:21,232 --> 00:48:24,166 [lacy] but angela was essential. 840 00:48:24,234 --> 00:48:27,403 We could not do this without her. 841 00:48:27,471 --> 00:48:30,138 [michael] angela was our star witness. 842 00:48:30,140 --> 00:48:33,375 There's no way that we convict steve pankey 843 00:48:33,377 --> 00:48:35,977 Without angela hicks. 844 00:48:35,979 --> 00:48:38,280 This time, she wasn't muzzled 845 00:48:38,349 --> 00:48:40,049 As much as she was the first time. 846 00:48:42,319 --> 00:48:44,920 [angela] all those years I had to suppress 847 00:48:44,989 --> 00:48:47,456 The story of what I went through. 848 00:48:47,525 --> 00:48:50,359 I had to go through it all again. 849 00:48:50,428 --> 00:48:53,696 It was like a moment of reckoning to me. 850 00:48:55,967 --> 00:48:58,100 I just said, "god, I give this to you. 851 00:48:58,168 --> 00:49:01,036 "please let there be a resolution to this. 852 00:49:01,038 --> 00:49:03,872 "please keep me safe. 853 00:49:03,941 --> 00:49:05,308 And let there be justice for jonelle." 854 00:49:12,216 --> 00:49:14,149 [tense music] 855 00:49:14,218 --> 00:49:16,852 [robert] it took 38 years for us to... 856 00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:18,921 To find steve pankey. 857 00:49:22,893 --> 00:49:25,627 But we found him and we convicted him 858 00:49:25,629 --> 00:49:28,297 For the murder of jonelle matthews. 859 00:49:28,365 --> 00:49:29,431 [female reporter] nearly four decades 860 00:49:29,433 --> 00:49:30,799 After a young girl disappeared, 861 00:49:30,868 --> 00:49:34,035 A jury has convicted her killer. 862 00:49:34,037 --> 00:49:37,206 [angela] I could just feel my heart pounding. 863 00:49:37,274 --> 00:49:40,576 And they said, "kidnapping in the first degree, guilty." 864 00:49:40,644 --> 00:49:43,312 And then, "murder, guilty." 865 00:49:43,381 --> 00:49:44,947 [male reporter] a master manipulator 866 00:49:45,015 --> 00:49:47,449 Who murdered a 12-year-old girl in cold blood. 867 00:49:47,518 --> 00:49:50,385 A judge sentenced him to life in prison. 868 00:49:50,454 --> 00:49:52,321 I am a christian. 869 00:49:52,390 --> 00:49:55,190 I will be in heaven. 870 00:49:55,259 --> 00:49:56,892 I am innocent. 871 00:50:00,397 --> 00:50:03,933 It was the best feeling ever. 872 00:50:04,001 --> 00:50:09,871 Almost an instant release of the last 38 years. 873 00:50:09,941 --> 00:50:11,774 All the blood, sweat, and tears that have gone into this. 874 00:50:13,177 --> 00:50:15,077 After the verdict, I talked to cash. 875 00:50:17,047 --> 00:50:21,984 I just have nothing but admiration for him, 876 00:50:22,052 --> 00:50:23,985 For all the work that he's done for our family, 877 00:50:24,055 --> 00:50:25,321 What they all have. 878 00:50:27,090 --> 00:50:28,958 [mike] it felt great. 879 00:50:29,026 --> 00:50:31,293 Justice has finally been meted out. 880 00:50:33,964 --> 00:50:35,097 [michael] when you hear "guilty"? 881 00:50:35,165 --> 00:50:36,498 Are you kidding me? 882 00:50:36,567 --> 00:50:40,036 On a case like that that we worked on so hard... 883 00:50:40,104 --> 00:50:41,270 It meant the world. 884 00:50:43,207 --> 00:50:45,507 Um... 885 00:50:45,509 --> 00:50:48,109 Relieved. 886 00:50:48,111 --> 00:50:49,412 And proud. 887 00:50:52,650 --> 00:50:54,350 It had been a long time coming. 888 00:50:58,455 --> 00:51:01,022 [robert] it flashed before my eyes, 889 00:51:01,024 --> 00:51:04,159 First being tasked with the case back in 2013 890 00:51:04,228 --> 00:51:07,529 To all the work that was done, 891 00:51:07,531 --> 00:51:11,934 The sticking to it, not giving up ever. 892 00:51:13,637 --> 00:51:16,038 I don't think I cried. [laughs] 893 00:51:16,106 --> 00:51:21,210 [bright, gentle music] 894 00:51:21,278 --> 00:51:24,847 [robert] there are monsters in this world... 895 00:51:27,618 --> 00:51:30,386 ...That will exist only to hurt others. 896 00:51:32,856 --> 00:51:34,924 I think it's important that 897 00:51:34,992 --> 00:51:37,960 People listen to their gut feeling about things. 898 00:51:42,066 --> 00:51:45,034 Cases like this only exist because of bad people. 899 00:51:48,506 --> 00:51:53,208 [bright, gentle music] 900 00:51:53,277 --> 00:51:55,010 Let me just leave it at that. 901 00:52:01,151 --> 00:52:04,453 [jim] if jonelle had been alive today, 902 00:52:04,521 --> 00:52:07,356 I'm she would make us all proud. 903 00:52:10,661 --> 00:52:14,596 We only had her for a little less than 13 years. 904 00:52:14,598 --> 00:52:18,200 But...She was an amazing child. 905 00:52:21,772 --> 00:52:23,939 [jennifer] I feel peace and know that 906 00:52:24,007 --> 00:52:26,242 She is part of my story. 907 00:52:26,310 --> 00:52:28,911 I had a sister. Her name was jonelle. 908 00:52:32,316 --> 00:52:35,350 [gloria] I think both jim and I, at the very end, 909 00:52:35,419 --> 00:52:40,422 Don't care whether we have all the answers or not. 910 00:52:40,490 --> 00:52:42,491 So many of my christian friends say 911 00:52:42,559 --> 00:52:44,326 That I have to forgive him. 912 00:52:44,395 --> 00:52:46,962 But I can't. 913 00:52:47,030 --> 00:52:49,698 Sp was going to go 914 00:52:49,767 --> 00:52:53,234 For the rest of his life... 915 00:52:53,236 --> 00:52:54,603 Behind bars. 916 00:52:55,839 --> 00:52:59,074 And I, I like that. 917 00:52:59,143 --> 00:53:04,646 [bright, gentle music] 918 00:53:04,648 --> 00:53:07,149 [angela] having someone treat you this way 919 00:53:07,217 --> 00:53:09,084 For a long period of time, 920 00:53:09,153 --> 00:53:12,153 It just forever distorts your trust 921 00:53:12,223 --> 00:53:15,791 And your perception of everything. 922 00:53:15,859 --> 00:53:19,562 But for the first time in a long time, I feel safe. 923 00:53:27,604 --> 00:53:29,338 [jennifer] angela took her life in her hands. 924 00:53:31,475 --> 00:53:35,311 We owe all of this to angela. 925 00:53:36,847 --> 00:53:38,680 Her pursuit for justice for jonelle 926 00:53:38,749 --> 00:53:40,749 Is why we are here. 927 00:53:42,486 --> 00:53:54,096 [bright, gentle music] 928 00:54:00,504 --> 00:54:12,314 [bright, gentle music] 71804

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