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[grim music]
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Well over
a million american children
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Disappear from their homes
or neighborhoods every year.
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[mike] the president
had mentioned jonelle matthews.
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But they were exactly at
the same place they were
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At the start of the search.
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[male reporter] the absolute
mystery about her disappearance
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Remains unsolved.
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I felt that she was taken.
There was absolutely nothing.
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I wasn't a part of this.
I don't know what happened.
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[mike] other than
raking in the snow,
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They really didn't have
any evidence
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That she'd been kidnapped.
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Oh, I absolutely thought
he was acting strange.
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Why was the car on fire?
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His control grew and grew.
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It wasn't safe.
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[police radio chatter]
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[siren wails]
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[robert] jonelle matthews
disappeared on
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December 20th of 1984.
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[jim on phone] hi, robert.
This is jim matthews.
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[robert] jim and gloria,
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I need to tell you guys
before, uh,
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Any social media got to ya...
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For decades, a monster
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Tapped on the shoulder
of law enforcement
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Because he couldn't help
but to do it.
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I'll never forget this.
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[siren wails]
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[female reporter] this area's
about 30 minutes away
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From her family's home
in greeley.
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Greeley police
and the other agencies involved
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Have been keeping
very tight lipped about it.
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[robert] it took
more than three decades,
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But we found her.
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[suspenseful music]
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[jennifer]
thirty years had passed
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When I had got a phone call
from my friend robert cash.
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He was assigned jonelle's case.
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Rob and I have known
each other since ninth grade.
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Was I expecting much?
Not really.
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But go ahead,
pursue it, you know?
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Maybe he'd uncover something.
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I still had her
on my mind daily, nightly.
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It just never goes away.
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[jim] we knew that there
was a distinct possibility
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We would go to our graves
not knowing what happened.
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[jennifer] she just remained
an unsolved mystery.
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[robert] the matthews case
rings in the halls
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Of the greeley
police department.
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It's unrivaled.
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There's kind of a fantasy
about being able to solve
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A case like this,
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Particularly since
you knew the family.
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Failure wasn't an option.
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I never let myself fear failure.
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[tense music]
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[angela] we were
living south of ketchum
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Here in idaho.
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My marriage with
steve was awful.
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The coercive control
was always there.
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The physical abuse
was more random
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And it wasn't all the time.
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I was working cleaning houses.
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We were renting a house
from one of my clients.
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I was at work one day.
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I expected my paycheck
to be there, and it wasn't.
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So I asked her about it.
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And she said, "you have a lot of
nerve asking for your paycheck
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When you guys
haven't paid your rent."
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So when I went home,
I said to steve,
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"steve, I didn't get my check
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Because she said that
our rent isn't paid."
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And he said, "well, I had to
use the money for legal fees.
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"police are persecuting me.
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I won't tell them what they want
to know about jonelle matthews."
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"jonelle matthews?"
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That was the first time
jonelle matthews' name
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Had come up in 10 years.
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He turned kind of
halfway to me and said to me,
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"do you really think
I would hurt her
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When she looks
so much like you?"
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There's an expression
that something makes
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Your blood run cold,
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But it's the only
time in my life
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I've experienced it.
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All those odd occurrences,
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The quick trip to big bear,
the dogs being dumped,
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The car being on fire,
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The episode at church where
he's saying, "false prophet!"
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In that moment, all that
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Meant something different to me
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Than it ever had before.
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Something had happened
to this 12-year-old girl,
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And he was acting like
he might've done something.
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I had to figure out
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If he had murdered
jonelle matthews.
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[suspenseful music]
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[mike] cash and I
had been working on
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Jonelle's disappearance
for years.
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This case was
chock full of oddities
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And strange occurrences,
for sure.
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To be blunt,
the investigation was a mess.
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There were a lot of
missed opportunities.
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Names and subjects,
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They weren't necessarily
followed up on.
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Two reports generated
by the lead detective
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In January of 1985
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Mentioned an individual
that was claiming to be a pastor
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Named steve pankey.
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He straight out said
that he knew
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Jonelle was probably dead
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And tried to
direct attention towards
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The local nazarene church
here in greeley,
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Where jonelle attended
services with her family.
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And there's references to
a friend of jonelle's family,
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Russell ross,
as a potential suspect.
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But then several days later,
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Pankey arrived at
the police department
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And basically said, "disregard.
Don't worry about my lead."
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[robert] there was
a lot of connection to
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People involved in the church.
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There was still
questions in my mind
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Surrounding russ ross,
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The last trusted adult
to have seen jonelle.
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Given the fact that
the statements forming his alibi
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Came from family members,
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We couldn't entirely
eliminate him 100%.
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There were times when I had
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Fairly confrontational
interviews with him.
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However,
that scrutiny led us, then,
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To other people
who would become more important,
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Much more important,
in the case.
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[russ] robert cash,
basically he was going through
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The whole scenario of
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How things happened
in that night.
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And he said, "the name
steve pankey sound familiar?"
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And I go, "oh, wow."
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[robert] he remembered steve.
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There was some friction
between him and pankey at work.
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[russ] he worked for me.
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In the report
or something was that
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I held him and beat him up
and that and so on.
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Yeah, I don't know.
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It was never
substantiated, I guess,
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So I don't know
what that was all about.
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It seemed to me
that russell ross felt awkward
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Or uncomfortable
talking about steve pankey.
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This fact fueled
my curiosity more
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As far as the relationship
between the two
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And what pankey himself
might tell me about russ ross.
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[unsettling music]
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[dial tone]
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[dialing touchtone phone]
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[line trilling]
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[music intensifies]
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[unsettling music]
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He was cagey, guarded,
making these odd comments.
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Why would you need a deal,
steve?
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Um, I'm, I'm curious
about your relationship
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With russell ross.
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I was really scared then,
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That my intuition
or that my feelings about it
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Were right.
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[unsettling music]
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[angela] I started
watching for clues.
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It became like a quest for me.
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Is there any more pieces
to this puzzle that I can gather
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Or that I can find?
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Steve had mountains
and mountains of paperwork.
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He was suing a lot of people.
A lot of people were suing him.
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So this is something
I found on top of steve's desk
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After I kind of
started watching for things.
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So this one says,
"pastoral privilege, jonelle.
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Jonelle dead before crossing
10th street and greeley."
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That speaks volumes to me.
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I mean, he names
the very street that we live on.
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The next thing that I found,
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A yellow legal file
torn into pieces.
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I could see on one of
the piece of papers
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That it said "jonelle matthews."
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So I put that piece
of paper back together.
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And on that document, it said,
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"the snow outside
the matthews home was raked."
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And how would you know that
unless you were there?
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Steve couldn't find out
that I saw it and copied it.
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I laid out towels.
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I laid the documents
in the towels.
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I took the insert out
of the tongue of my tennis shoe
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And then just walked out
of the house with them
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As bags of laundry
taking back to clients.
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And then I took
all the copies to the police.
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I talked to cam daggett first,
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Who was the sun valley
police chief.
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I told him about everything
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That had happened
in '84 and '85,
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About the comments
that steve said.
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And they said, "you've
just gotta figure out a way
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To get out of this."
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I agreed to send
all this documentation
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To the greeley police,
who's handling the case
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In greeley, colorado
so that it can go forward.
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He said, "I'm gonna be praying.
I know you're praying.
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And we'll leave this
in god's hands."
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For a long time,
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I was waiting for
the police to contact me.
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And that never happened.
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[unsettling music]
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[angela] I was
still living with him,
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Trying to figure out
how am I gonna get out of this.
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I just didn't see
any safe choices,
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And he had made so many threats.
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It took me a while.
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But in my mind,
I was like, "that's it."
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I went and started
trying to talk to attorneys.
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All the attorneys I was
talking to were saying,
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You know, "we've represented
somebody suing him,
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So we can't help you."
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I mean, this was just attorney
after attorney after attorney.
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Finally I found an attorney
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Who hadn't had
any dealings with him.
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And I was able to get
the divorce in motion.
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Me and the two boys,
we got a civil protection order
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So that steve
couldn't come around us.
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You know that expression,
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"keep your friends close
and your enemies closer"?
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I decided that would
be the best way
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To approach
my relationship with steve.
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As far as I knew, he didn't know
that I had talked to the police.
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I thought if something slipped
and he found out,
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I knew that he would kill me.
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[steve] hello,
this is steve pankey.
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I'm in front of
the idaho governor's office.
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I just filed for candidacy
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As a republican candidate for
governor of the state of idaho.
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[angela]
one day, to my surprise,
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I saw steve
campaigning for governor.
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So together, we can make a safe,
prosperous, and moral idaho.
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I'm just shocked.
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This is steve pankey.
Steve pankey.
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Your republican--
republican--
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Idaho--
idaho governor.
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If you're young
and beautiful, 18,
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And this is
your first time voting,
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I welcome your vote.
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If you're young and ugly,
I welcome your vote.
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The pankey family
had always had a trust.
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After we were divorced,
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Steve spent over $300,000
of his inheritance
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To run for governor of idaho.
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Steve's dad was a
baptist preacher,
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Then a judge,
who invested heavily
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In california real estate.
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His great-grandfather
had been the governor...
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I believe of arizona.
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So steve had this air that
that's what he planned to be.
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But I didn't think
he had a chance of winning.
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Pankeyforidaho.Com.
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Feel free to donate
the big bucks.
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[angela] it just made me
sick to my stomach.
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He's out there acting like
he's this big shot,
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And she didn't
even have a chance
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To see her 13th birthday
and, you know, have her life.
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[unsettling music]
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[angela] after 20 years,
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I just felt like there
was nothing I could do.
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I tried to do something,
and that didn't work.
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[line trilling]
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It was a lot of waiting
and a lot of years.
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[line trilling]
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All these years later?
Seriously, now?
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This is the longest
I've ever waited for a callback.
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There was kind of
a pause or a silence.
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I had absolutely no idea
what she was talking about.
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What the hell
happened to that file?
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After everything
I went through,
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And the greeley
police department
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Doesn't have the file?
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No one had done anything.
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I was a bit put off.
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[cacophony of voices]
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[robert] I was
completely surprised.
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So I asked her kind of,
"well, what can you tell me?"
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[unnerving music]
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[angela]
detective cash, I would say,
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Knows more about my life,
my marriage with steve,
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Than anybody in the whole world.
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He heard it all.
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My whole story.
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[steve] together,
we can make a safe,
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Prosperous, and moral idaho.
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Angela hicks had
so much information to give.
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I had several
conversations with her
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Over the next few months.
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She would bring copies
of the things
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That she had found in the house.
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Notes, legal briefs,
important writings.
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Angela would talk about
his statements to her
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That made her blood run cold.
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00:19:03,809 --> 00:19:08,145
The trip to california
and dumping the dogs.
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The interesting fire suddenly.
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His behaviors,
his running for political office
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For governor of idaho,
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00:19:16,055 --> 00:19:18,489
How she suffered abuse
at the hands of steve pankey,
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Physical, emotional.
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00:19:22,628 --> 00:19:24,095
But the biggest development,
I would say,
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Is angela
had notations summarizing
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A conversation
she had with steve pankey
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About shoe impressions that
had been raked out of the snow
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Surrounding the matthews house.
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[dramatic music]
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[mike]
my blood pressure rose.
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I'm like, "oh my god, steve
knew the holdback information."
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The general public never,
ever had any idea
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About the raking in the snow.
317
00:19:55,728 --> 00:19:57,828
Yet angela is making notes
in '99
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That pankey knew
about those rakings.
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[robert] knowing
this was monumental.
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00:20:04,536 --> 00:20:07,471
I had to sit back in my chair.
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Steve pankey would've been
the one who was at the house
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December 20th of 1984.
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I'm like, "ah, dude,
we are going to idaho.
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We have to go see him."
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But on July 24, 2019...
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The phone rang.
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[line trilling]
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[gloria] the detectives
called us up.
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[line trilling]
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To be honest, we, uh...
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I didn't want
to have that phone call.
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[line trilling]
[sad music]
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I...
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I didn't want to find a body.
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This is county road
40, 34 and a half.
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"the road to nowhere,"
is what we called it.
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00:21:36,929 --> 00:21:38,162
-Over here, right?
-Yeah.
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An oil exploration crew
had dug up
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What they believed
were unidentified remains.
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00:21:48,073 --> 00:21:51,842
I walked up to the remains
and saw that the skull
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00:21:51,911 --> 00:21:56,180
Had a penetrating gunshot wound
through the forehead.
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00:21:58,384 --> 00:22:02,519
When I saw the braces,
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00:22:02,588 --> 00:22:05,389
I knew...
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00:22:05,458 --> 00:22:08,058
That we had found
jonelle matthews.
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[male reporter 1] this is a case
the greeley police department
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Has been working to solve
for more than 30 years.
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[male reporter 2] police say
they've found the skull
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00:22:13,999 --> 00:22:15,666
Belonging to
a missing 12-year-old
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At an oil and gas site
in weld county.
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[robert] it was like
a slow-moving car crash.
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00:22:21,807 --> 00:22:25,308
You know, filled with anxiety,
with apprehension,
352
00:22:25,378 --> 00:22:29,813
Desire for it to actually be
something positive in the case.
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00:22:29,815 --> 00:22:31,515
[female reporter] this area
where jonelle's body was found
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00:22:31,583 --> 00:22:34,618
Is about 30 minutes away from
her family's home in greeley.
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00:22:34,686 --> 00:22:36,520
Greeley police
and the other agencies involved
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00:22:36,588 --> 00:22:38,289
Have been keeping
very tight lipped about it.
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[jim] to get a phone call
35 years after it happened
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Was absolutely earthshaking.
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00:22:48,801 --> 00:22:51,568
This has been something
we have been waiting for.
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This was closure.
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[male reporter]
jonelle matthews
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Was 12 years old
when she went missing.
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Today, she'd be in her mid-40's.
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00:23:02,447 --> 00:23:05,616
Never in my life...
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00:23:05,684 --> 00:23:09,486
Did I think of
that she was shot in the head,
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00:23:09,488 --> 00:23:11,489
And how afraid she was.
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00:23:21,066 --> 00:23:24,501
[mike] I was angry that somebody
could do such a thing to her.
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00:23:24,570 --> 00:23:27,838
The bullet, because
it was at a downward trajectory,
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In my opinion,
she was on her knees,
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00:23:29,608 --> 00:23:31,542
Looking up at the
individual that shot her.
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I wanted to find
who that person was.
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And so we hit the road,
robert and I,
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To drive out and see pankey.
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[unsettling music]
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[robert] mike prill and I
made the nine-hour trip to idaho
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00:23:55,701 --> 00:23:57,668
To attempt to contact
steve pankey.
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00:23:59,872 --> 00:24:01,771
Arriving up in idaho,
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00:24:01,773 --> 00:24:03,840
Steve pankey
answered the intercom.
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00:24:03,909 --> 00:24:05,442
[steve] hello?
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00:24:05,511 --> 00:24:08,379
He couldn't believe that
we were at his front doorstep.
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00:24:16,855 --> 00:24:17,555
[laughs]
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00:24:35,007 --> 00:24:37,140
We never alluded
that we were there
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00:24:37,142 --> 00:24:40,711
To treat him as a suspect
and that he was being charged.
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00:25:03,802 --> 00:25:07,070
I explained to him that for him
to get the deal he was seeking,
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00:25:07,139 --> 00:25:08,772
It would have to be
a deal for a crime
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00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:10,274
That I could arrest him for.
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00:25:19,918 --> 00:25:22,786
[mike] retorts, "I need a deal."
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00:25:22,788 --> 00:25:25,588
He's just told me,
without saying it directly,
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00:25:25,590 --> 00:25:26,956
I murdered jonelle,
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00:25:26,958 --> 00:25:28,526
And I'm not gonna
talk to you without a deal
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00:25:28,594 --> 00:25:30,894
Because that's a crime from 1984
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00:25:30,962 --> 00:25:32,329
That you could
still arrest me for.
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00:25:50,849 --> 00:25:53,016
[mike] when I got into
our car, I told robert,
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00:25:53,085 --> 00:25:55,352
"that's our guy.
That is definitely our dude."
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00:25:57,122 --> 00:26:00,057
[robert] we both felt
that we had the guy.
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00:26:00,125 --> 00:26:03,526
The sense was
that we had the guy.
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00:26:03,528 --> 00:26:05,162
We now needed to prove it.
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00:26:05,230 --> 00:26:11,502
[tense music]
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00:26:11,570 --> 00:26:13,904
[robert] we consulted with
the district attorney's office.
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00:26:13,973 --> 00:26:16,473
Their response was,
"we need more."
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00:26:20,479 --> 00:26:22,546
I get a phone call,
and I'm thinking to myself,
402
00:26:22,614 --> 00:26:24,982
"I can't believe
what I'm hearing."
403
00:26:25,050 --> 00:26:26,116
This is as big as it gets.
404
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:30,587
Fortunately at that point
there was enough evidence
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00:26:30,656 --> 00:26:33,757
That we could write a warrant
to get into pankey's house.
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00:26:33,826 --> 00:26:37,361
[suspenseful music]
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00:26:45,104 --> 00:26:47,938
Police department.
Search warrant.
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00:26:48,006 --> 00:26:50,140
The same "steve pankey"
meant nothing to anybody.
409
00:26:52,010 --> 00:26:53,143
Police, search warrant!
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00:26:53,212 --> 00:26:54,744
But all of a sudden,
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00:26:54,746 --> 00:26:55,613
When you're talking
about somebody
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00:26:55,681 --> 00:26:56,846
Who's running for the governor,
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00:26:56,916 --> 00:26:58,181
It's like you've taken
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00:26:58,250 --> 00:27:00,217
Two complete,
irrelevant concepts
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00:27:00,285 --> 00:27:01,918
And smashed them
together in one person.
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00:27:01,987 --> 00:27:04,521
That's what it felt like,
is he's an enigma.
417
00:27:04,590 --> 00:27:06,589
Is he a criminal?
Is he a witness?
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00:27:06,659 --> 00:27:09,259
Who is he?
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00:27:09,328 --> 00:27:11,962
[mike] the tactical team
hit pankey's house.
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00:27:12,031 --> 00:27:14,697
But pankey was not at home.
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00:27:14,699 --> 00:27:18,235
He had no couches,
no televisions, no radios.
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00:27:18,303 --> 00:27:20,871
He had a picture
of himself from his--
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00:27:20,939 --> 00:27:23,206
Perhaps his high school years
hanging on the wall.
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00:27:23,208 --> 00:27:27,044
He had three cell phones
and two laptops.
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00:27:27,112 --> 00:27:29,713
And then he had
a very expensive,
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00:27:29,782 --> 00:27:32,249
Brand-new gun safe.
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00:27:32,317 --> 00:27:34,918
It was almost like he was living
in his own self-imposed prison.
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00:27:37,322 --> 00:27:40,958
[robert] we seized
14 or so handguns,
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00:27:41,026 --> 00:27:44,060
Numerous cell phones,
and laptop computers.
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00:27:44,062 --> 00:27:49,032
[unsettling music]
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00:27:49,100 --> 00:27:50,367
[michael] results of
the search warrants
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00:27:50,435 --> 00:27:53,703
Of his computers
was an utter goldmine.
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00:27:53,773 --> 00:27:56,073
He would search for
jonelle thousands of times.
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00:27:58,009 --> 00:27:59,243
And it became very clear that
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00:27:59,311 --> 00:28:01,178
Once he learned
jonelle's remains were found,
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00:28:01,246 --> 00:28:04,981
He was up on his computer
for the better part of 36 hours.
437
00:28:05,050 --> 00:28:07,184
He never went to sleep.
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00:28:07,252 --> 00:28:12,089
[mike] I took a deep dive
into pankey's life in colorado.
439
00:28:12,157 --> 00:28:16,159
Robert would be tasked with
locating cases filed against
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00:28:16,228 --> 00:28:19,296
Pankey throughout idaho during
the years that he lived there.
441
00:28:19,364 --> 00:28:21,531
And we started amassing
police reports
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00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,201
And court documents.
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00:28:24,269 --> 00:28:27,204
[robert] I'm reaching out
to various records departments,
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00:28:27,272 --> 00:28:29,039
Getting documents
from legal actions
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00:28:29,107 --> 00:28:32,042
That he's involved with.
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00:28:32,111 --> 00:28:34,711
In the 1990s, he would make
447
00:28:34,780 --> 00:28:37,614
Exceedingly
incriminating statements
448
00:28:37,683 --> 00:28:41,251
Saying that he is
a master manipulator.
449
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:43,553
[michael] he's writing things
to the idaho supreme court
450
00:28:43,622 --> 00:28:45,923
Believing that he would
receive the death penalty
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00:28:45,925 --> 00:28:47,824
In exchange for providing
information about jonelle.
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00:28:47,893 --> 00:28:49,726
Who says that?
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00:28:49,795 --> 00:28:51,695
[mike] in his many,
many case files,
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00:28:51,763 --> 00:28:54,531
He was so amazingly slick
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00:28:54,599 --> 00:28:57,868
That he controlled both
the courts and law enforcement
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00:28:57,936 --> 00:29:00,938
With the use of his pen
and his own personality.
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00:29:03,475 --> 00:29:06,643
[michael] we got one
particular report from idaho.
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00:29:06,712 --> 00:29:08,779
A police officer
was on a traffic stop.
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00:29:08,847 --> 00:29:11,982
And he starts videotaping
the police stop.
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00:29:12,050 --> 00:29:14,317
She confronts him,
tells him to step away.
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00:29:14,386 --> 00:29:16,019
And he starts talking and saying
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00:29:16,087 --> 00:29:19,122
That he's buried more bodies
than she could possibly imagine.
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00:29:19,190 --> 00:29:21,090
She stops and says,
"oh yeah? Where?"
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00:29:21,092 --> 00:29:22,159
"well, in colorado."
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00:29:25,197 --> 00:29:27,297
This is back in the late '90s,
long before pankey's ever on
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00:29:27,366 --> 00:29:28,999
Anybody in colorado's
radar screen.
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00:29:33,305 --> 00:29:35,038
[robert] for decades,
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00:29:35,106 --> 00:29:37,440
A monster tapped on the shoulder
of law enforcement
469
00:29:37,442 --> 00:29:40,177
Because he couldn't help
but to do it.
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00:29:42,213 --> 00:29:45,682
To get the attention that
he thought that he deserved.
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00:29:47,753 --> 00:29:51,155
This was part of what he does.
This is part of steve pankey.
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00:29:56,194 --> 00:29:57,194
[michael] we were
sitting in our office.
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00:29:57,262 --> 00:29:58,861
And one day, detective cash
comes over and says,
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00:29:58,863 --> 00:30:00,363
"you're not gonna believe this."
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00:30:00,432 --> 00:30:01,764
[male interviewer]
so steve, why don't we
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00:30:01,766 --> 00:30:03,767
Just start from the beginning?
477
00:30:03,835 --> 00:30:07,003
Steve pankey was
going on a media crusade.
478
00:30:07,072 --> 00:30:10,006
Prill gets right in my face
and he starts spitting.
479
00:30:10,075 --> 00:30:14,144
Like, he says,
"steve, I need to talk to you."
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00:30:14,212 --> 00:30:15,746
[michael] we looked
at each other and said,
481
00:30:15,814 --> 00:30:18,815
"what in the world is he doing?
Why is he doing this?"
482
00:30:18,884 --> 00:30:20,883
[steve] it's not like
I don't have compassion.
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00:30:20,885 --> 00:30:22,953
It wasn't until my wife and I
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00:30:23,021 --> 00:30:26,523
And our five-year-old
returned from california.
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00:30:26,525 --> 00:30:28,358
[angela] all of a sudden,
you could put in the name
486
00:30:28,427 --> 00:30:30,193
"steve pankey"
in a search engine,
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00:30:30,261 --> 00:30:31,762
And it would just
have link after link
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00:30:31,830 --> 00:30:35,365
To either a newspaper article,
a television interview,
489
00:30:35,434 --> 00:30:37,868
A radio interview,
a podcast interview.
490
00:30:40,906 --> 00:30:44,174
I'm a true crime/
missing persons podcaster.
491
00:30:44,242 --> 00:30:46,710
I've covered 317 disappearances.
492
00:30:48,513 --> 00:30:51,147
Steve contacted me
to tell the world
493
00:30:51,216 --> 00:30:53,183
About why he was innocent
494
00:30:53,251 --> 00:30:55,952
And did not kill
jonelle matthews.
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00:30:56,021 --> 00:30:57,054
That was a first.
496
00:31:03,362 --> 00:31:06,696
[upbeat music]
497
00:31:06,765 --> 00:31:09,666
Always friendly.
Always gracious.
498
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:18,541
What steve has done over the
last 35 years is not unusual.
499
00:31:18,543 --> 00:31:20,777
I have many disappearances
where there are steve pankeys.
500
00:31:22,247 --> 00:31:25,015
People who take
an unusual interest
501
00:31:25,083 --> 00:31:26,683
In a disappearance or a murder.
502
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:28,986
He's a strange cat.
503
00:31:34,459 --> 00:31:37,794
[ed] I came away thinking...
504
00:31:37,863 --> 00:31:39,363
I have doubts whether
steve pankey killed jonelle.
505
00:31:49,374 --> 00:31:51,608
[robert]
the three-decade mystery
506
00:31:51,676 --> 00:31:55,078
Of who had taken
jonelle matthews was over.
507
00:31:58,383 --> 00:32:02,052
We'd taken the correct steps
to end this nightmare
508
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:04,554
That had been going on for,
at that time, 38 years.
509
00:32:04,623 --> 00:32:07,190
[knocking on door]
510
00:32:08,293 --> 00:32:09,692
[police officer 1] contact.
511
00:32:09,762 --> 00:32:11,227
[police officer 2]
would you come outside, please?
512
00:32:11,296 --> 00:32:14,197
We need to talk to you, steven.
513
00:32:14,266 --> 00:32:15,599
[police officer 1] steve, we
have a warrant for your arrest.
514
00:32:17,569 --> 00:32:19,602
[michael] it is with great honor
today that we announce
515
00:32:19,671 --> 00:32:21,337
That the grand jury
indicted an individual
516
00:32:21,406 --> 00:32:23,073
Named steven dana pankey
517
00:32:23,141 --> 00:32:26,176
For the kidnapping
and murder of jonelle matthews.
518
00:32:26,244 --> 00:32:27,677
Can I get my phone?
519
00:32:27,746 --> 00:32:29,079
[female reporter] steve pankey
was once a candidate
520
00:32:29,147 --> 00:32:30,747
For governor of idaho.
521
00:32:30,815 --> 00:32:33,183
And now he's charged
with killing a girl
522
00:32:33,251 --> 00:32:36,886
Who vanished 36 years ago.
523
00:32:36,955 --> 00:32:39,022
[michael] please understand
that while he has been indicted,
524
00:32:39,024 --> 00:32:41,791
That he is still
presumed innocent,
525
00:32:41,860 --> 00:32:44,261
Unless and until
these charges are proven
526
00:32:44,329 --> 00:32:45,729
Beyond a reasonable doubt
in a court of law.
527
00:32:47,932 --> 00:32:49,699
[mike] the second thing
that should never have happened
528
00:32:49,701 --> 00:32:51,300
Just happened.
529
00:32:51,370 --> 00:32:53,270
Now, not only has jonelle
actually been found,
530
00:32:53,338 --> 00:32:55,705
We just arrested somebody.
531
00:32:55,774 --> 00:32:57,373
[male reporter] steve pankey
was arrested at his home
532
00:32:57,375 --> 00:32:58,875
In meridian, idaho,
533
00:32:58,877 --> 00:33:01,944
Facing charges of first degree
murder and kidnapping.
534
00:33:01,946 --> 00:33:03,380
[female reporter] pankey
is being held without bond
535
00:33:03,448 --> 00:33:05,648
At the ada county jail
in boise, idaho
536
00:33:05,717 --> 00:33:07,417
And is waiting
extradition to colorado.
537
00:33:10,655 --> 00:33:14,124
We had never heard
the name before.
538
00:33:14,192 --> 00:33:18,528
Why would a person
like him wanna do this jonelle,
539
00:33:18,597 --> 00:33:21,465
Spend the time and
the effort to run for governor?
540
00:33:23,502 --> 00:33:25,268
To me, there's
no stereotype for a killer.
541
00:33:27,372 --> 00:33:30,407
[gloria] why he would pick her?
542
00:33:30,475 --> 00:33:31,742
I don't know.
543
00:33:36,515 --> 00:33:38,648
[angela] it was kind
of a high-low feeling.
544
00:33:38,717 --> 00:33:40,050
On the one hand, like,
545
00:33:40,118 --> 00:33:42,452
"oh my god, I was right!
I was right!"
546
00:33:42,521 --> 00:33:44,687
And on the other hand,
it was like,
547
00:33:44,689 --> 00:33:48,424
"oh my god, I was right.
I was right."
548
00:33:48,493 --> 00:33:54,998
[somber music]
549
00:33:55,066 --> 00:33:56,533
[male reporter]
jim and gloria matthews
550
00:33:56,601 --> 00:33:57,934
Sat in a weld county courtroom
551
00:33:58,002 --> 00:34:00,370
As steve pankey
pleaded not guilty.
552
00:34:01,973 --> 00:34:06,442
Steve pankey has been
getting off for 37 years
553
00:34:06,511 --> 00:34:08,511
For murdering my sister.
554
00:34:08,513 --> 00:34:10,947
The hands of justice
were moving for us, for jonelle.
555
00:34:12,784 --> 00:34:16,586
[gloria] I hardly even
looked at him in the courtroom.
556
00:34:16,655 --> 00:34:20,590
I didn't care anymore.
I just wanted him guilty.
557
00:34:20,659 --> 00:34:23,526
[michael] your goal
since December 20th of 1984
558
00:34:23,528 --> 00:34:25,328
Has been self-preservation.
Would you agree?
559
00:34:26,931 --> 00:34:29,032
Not necessarily.
560
00:34:29,100 --> 00:34:33,470
In the courtroom,
he was cagey, guarded,
561
00:34:33,538 --> 00:34:35,605
Demanding a deal.
562
00:34:35,674 --> 00:34:38,274
[michael] you're asking
for immunity, demanding it,
563
00:34:38,343 --> 00:34:40,677
For murder and kidnapping
564
00:34:40,745 --> 00:34:44,747
Before you'll say anything
about jonelle matthews, right?
565
00:34:44,749 --> 00:34:46,249
You don't know
what's in my head.
566
00:34:48,553 --> 00:34:51,988
It was him continuing
to gaslight the public,
567
00:34:52,056 --> 00:34:54,757
To manipulate
what was happening.
568
00:34:54,759 --> 00:34:56,492
[michael] you were probably
the first person on the planet
569
00:34:56,561 --> 00:34:58,328
To assert she was deceased.
You know that?
570
00:35:00,065 --> 00:35:01,264
That's not true.
571
00:35:04,036 --> 00:35:06,736
[ed] so I knew there
was going to be a trial.
572
00:35:06,805 --> 00:35:09,606
I didn't know
I was going to be part of it.
573
00:35:09,608 --> 00:35:13,709
[steve] in 1977,
I was a youth pastor
574
00:35:13,779 --> 00:35:16,813
At sunny view church
of the nazarene.
575
00:35:16,881 --> 00:35:19,916
[ed] they chose to
play the podcast.
576
00:35:19,984 --> 00:35:22,085
The goal was to show
that steve had told
577
00:35:22,153 --> 00:35:26,322
Contradicting stories
over the last 38 years.
578
00:35:26,391 --> 00:35:28,058
However, lying to me
is not a precursor
579
00:35:28,126 --> 00:35:29,893
To somebody being a murderer.
580
00:35:32,130 --> 00:35:35,531
Never could prove
that he knew the family.
581
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:37,067
Never could prove that
he owned a gun of that caliber
582
00:35:37,135 --> 00:35:39,502
That was used to jonelle.
583
00:35:39,571 --> 00:35:41,571
Had they even been able to prove
584
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:44,807
That steve was on
that street even that day?
585
00:35:44,876 --> 00:35:46,409
They couldn't even do that.
586
00:35:49,013 --> 00:35:52,048
[lacy] so this was
my first homicide trial.
587
00:35:52,116 --> 00:35:54,150
At the first meeting,
it was like,
588
00:35:54,218 --> 00:35:55,585
"are we sure
we have the right guy?"
589
00:35:57,856 --> 00:35:59,656
Juries today expect dna.
590
00:36:02,026 --> 00:36:02,893
[michael]
the biggest problem we had
591
00:36:02,961 --> 00:36:05,628
Is the inability
to forensically link pankey
592
00:36:05,697 --> 00:36:07,864
Either to the matthews home,
593
00:36:07,932 --> 00:36:09,732
To the location where
jonelle's body was found.
594
00:36:09,801 --> 00:36:10,967
We couldn't do it through dna.
595
00:36:13,438 --> 00:36:16,006
The reality is
it's fragile evidence
596
00:36:16,074 --> 00:36:22,178
When it lays in
soft sand soil for 36 years.
597
00:36:22,246 --> 00:36:23,946
So there was
no expectation of recovering
598
00:36:24,016 --> 00:36:27,550
Any forensic evidence.
599
00:36:27,619 --> 00:36:29,619
[lacy] how do
we explain this to a jury?
600
00:36:29,688 --> 00:36:31,721
How do we explain
almost a 40-year investigation
601
00:36:31,790 --> 00:36:34,390
And make it simple
that a layperson
602
00:36:34,459 --> 00:36:36,826
Who's looking at this from
the outside can understand it?
603
00:36:39,764 --> 00:36:42,032
[mike] we had
overwhelming amounts
604
00:36:42,100 --> 00:36:45,468
Of circumstantial evidence.
605
00:36:45,537 --> 00:36:47,403
During the search of his home,
606
00:36:47,472 --> 00:36:50,340
I encountered a copy of
a book that pankey authored
607
00:36:50,408 --> 00:36:52,809
Entitled "graveyards."
608
00:36:52,877 --> 00:36:55,878
It's a story about an
individual named david darkson
609
00:36:55,947 --> 00:37:00,049
That has a falling-out with
the nazarene church in greeley
610
00:37:00,118 --> 00:37:03,886
And all the long has
an incredible grudge
611
00:37:03,955 --> 00:37:05,555
Towards a woman named deb moon.
612
00:37:08,993 --> 00:37:11,161
As I'm reading
this book, I realize
613
00:37:11,229 --> 00:37:13,163
Everything was essentially true,
614
00:37:13,231 --> 00:37:15,598
And david darkson is pankey.
615
00:37:15,667 --> 00:37:18,835
In 1977, deb moon,
616
00:37:18,903 --> 00:37:21,570
A college student
attending the nazarene church,
617
00:37:21,572 --> 00:37:23,506
Files a sexual assault complaint
against pankey.
618
00:37:26,110 --> 00:37:27,643
[lacy] michael rourke
and I called her,
619
00:37:27,645 --> 00:37:30,046
And miss moon told us that
620
00:37:30,114 --> 00:37:31,715
She was the jonelle matthews
that got away.
621
00:37:34,118 --> 00:37:37,653
She said pankey drove
miss moon out into the country
622
00:37:37,722 --> 00:37:39,088
In weld county
623
00:37:39,090 --> 00:37:42,258
And he raped her for four hours.
624
00:37:42,260 --> 00:37:43,960
The weld county district
attorney's office
625
00:37:44,028 --> 00:37:46,096
Filed charges on him.
626
00:37:46,164 --> 00:37:48,297
It was a male prosecutor.
627
00:37:48,299 --> 00:37:53,235
And told her this is
a he said versus she said.
628
00:37:53,237 --> 00:37:54,671
And the charges were dropped.
629
00:37:57,208 --> 00:37:59,809
His name ended up
in the newspaper,
630
00:37:59,878 --> 00:38:04,414
And he got excommunicated
from sunny view nazarene church.
631
00:38:04,482 --> 00:38:07,183
And then he starts
spiraling in hatred,
632
00:38:07,252 --> 00:38:08,885
Having members
physically pick him up
633
00:38:08,953 --> 00:38:11,554
Out of the congregation
and forcibly remove him.
634
00:38:18,196 --> 00:38:20,663
The testimony
about deb moon's case
635
00:38:20,665 --> 00:38:22,065
We could not use in the trial.
636
00:38:24,335 --> 00:38:25,802
The concern there is
that the jury
637
00:38:25,870 --> 00:38:28,104
Would misuse
the information and say,
638
00:38:28,172 --> 00:38:30,106
Well, if he raped miss moon,
639
00:38:30,174 --> 00:38:31,708
Then he had to have kidnapped
and murdered jonelle.
640
00:38:33,644 --> 00:38:35,879
But we found his motive.
641
00:38:35,947 --> 00:38:39,616
He was angry and
stalking members of the church.
642
00:38:39,684 --> 00:38:43,052
And deb moon was
the source of this hatred.
643
00:38:43,121 --> 00:38:44,053
[michael]
you told us that you began
644
00:38:44,122 --> 00:38:47,590
A very bitter relationship with
645
00:38:47,659 --> 00:38:49,725
Sunny view church
of the nazarene,
646
00:38:49,794 --> 00:38:50,660
Russ ross.
647
00:38:50,729 --> 00:38:52,995
Because you hated those men?
648
00:38:52,997 --> 00:38:55,798
Yes, sir.
649
00:38:55,867 --> 00:38:58,000
[lacy] detective cash told us
650
00:38:58,069 --> 00:39:00,303
Mr. Pankey had
a vendetta to get after the man
651
00:39:00,371 --> 00:39:03,205
By the name russell ross.
652
00:39:03,275 --> 00:39:06,342
Turns out that he was
part of the same congregation.
653
00:39:06,410 --> 00:39:09,178
Russell ross happened
to drive jonelle matthews home
654
00:39:09,180 --> 00:39:12,748
The night of December 20, 1984.
655
00:39:12,817 --> 00:39:15,151
And he was also
pankey's former boss
656
00:39:15,219 --> 00:39:18,121
And part of a lawsuit that
mr. Pankey had engaged in.
657
00:39:21,325 --> 00:39:23,759
[michael] we had documented
evidence to show
658
00:39:23,828 --> 00:39:27,296
That pankey had made efforts
to harass and follow russ ross.
659
00:39:27,365 --> 00:39:28,698
He coupled
the hatred of the church
660
00:39:28,767 --> 00:39:30,166
With the hatred of russ ross,
661
00:39:30,234 --> 00:39:32,502
And we had our belief
that pankey
662
00:39:32,570 --> 00:39:34,804
Was following
russ ross the night
663
00:39:34,873 --> 00:39:36,806
That he dropped jonelle matthews
off at her home.
664
00:39:40,778 --> 00:39:42,778
[robert] there was
no doubt in our mind
665
00:39:42,780 --> 00:39:43,812
That that evening,
steve pankey
666
00:39:43,814 --> 00:39:45,047
Followed russ ross,
667
00:39:45,116 --> 00:39:49,085
Saw that jonelle
walked into a dark house.
668
00:39:49,153 --> 00:39:51,821
He knew that that
moment was his opportunity
669
00:39:51,890 --> 00:39:53,857
To take revenge on everybody
who had wronged him.
670
00:40:00,765 --> 00:40:02,565
[angela]
I was subpoenaed to testify.
671
00:40:03,735 --> 00:40:06,035
It was so frightening.
672
00:40:06,037 --> 00:40:08,538
And I knew that he was gonna be
right there in the courtroom.
673
00:40:08,606 --> 00:40:10,540
[male reporter]
the ex-wife of a man accused of
674
00:40:10,608 --> 00:40:14,177
Murdering a 12-year-old girl
decades ago took the stand,
675
00:40:14,245 --> 00:40:15,912
And she remembered the time
her husband, steve pankey,
676
00:40:15,914 --> 00:40:18,447
Brought up jonelle matthews.
677
00:40:18,449 --> 00:40:19,982
[angela] I had been told,
678
00:40:19,984 --> 00:40:22,552
"you can't make any kind
of prejudicial statements.
679
00:40:22,620 --> 00:40:24,754
"make your statements
as brief as possible,
680
00:40:24,823 --> 00:40:26,689
Five words or less, if you can."
681
00:40:28,993 --> 00:40:30,560
[lacy] we had to have
the conversation with angela
682
00:40:30,628 --> 00:40:33,629
That the judge
had restricted her testimony
683
00:40:33,698 --> 00:40:36,799
To a sanitized fashion.
684
00:40:36,801 --> 00:40:39,435
"the jury will not hear about
any physical acts of violence
685
00:40:39,504 --> 00:40:41,938
Mr. Pankey perpetrated
against you"
686
00:40:42,006 --> 00:40:43,807
Because it was
overly prejudicial.
687
00:40:46,911 --> 00:40:49,445
[angela] I felt like I had to
give people enough information
688
00:40:49,514 --> 00:40:51,447
So they understand
what happened,
689
00:40:51,516 --> 00:40:54,650
But I didn't feel like
I was able to do that.
690
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:57,587
Steve says,
"don't worry about the dogs.
691
00:40:57,655 --> 00:41:00,757
I dumped the dogs.
Get us ready to go."
692
00:41:02,794 --> 00:41:04,694
All the da's
and the detectives said,
693
00:41:04,762 --> 00:41:06,662
"oh, you did so well!
You did so well!
694
00:41:06,731 --> 00:41:08,364
You did such a good job!"
695
00:41:08,433 --> 00:41:10,300
And all I could think
was, "I just sucked."
696
00:41:13,238 --> 00:41:14,904
I just didn't leave
with a good feeling.
697
00:41:20,378 --> 00:41:21,710
[michael] at the conclusion
of that trial, we felt good.
698
00:41:21,780 --> 00:41:24,246
We felt like we had
presented to that jury
699
00:41:24,316 --> 00:41:25,714
A complete picture,
700
00:41:25,784 --> 00:41:28,017
Almost a 200-page document
that served as a summary
701
00:41:28,086 --> 00:41:29,686
Of the entire investigation.
702
00:41:31,055 --> 00:41:32,822
When you put that together
703
00:41:32,890 --> 00:41:35,057
And you spend the time
to read it from start to finish,
704
00:41:35,059 --> 00:41:37,694
It reads as,
you got the right guy.
705
00:41:39,364 --> 00:41:40,630
[train rumbling]
[bell dinging]
706
00:41:40,698 --> 00:41:41,798
[train whistle]
707
00:41:47,071 --> 00:41:49,505
[jennifer] I was
a little bit undecided about
708
00:41:49,574 --> 00:41:53,509
Steve pankey's guilt,
709
00:41:53,577 --> 00:41:55,645
Just listening to
what was presented in the trial.
710
00:41:57,415 --> 00:41:59,449
Anticipating was daunting.
711
00:42:03,655 --> 00:42:05,721
[michael] we got a note
from the jury to the judge.
712
00:42:05,790 --> 00:42:08,624
And it says, "we don't believe
713
00:42:08,693 --> 00:42:10,493
We're gonna be able to
reach a unanimous verdict."
714
00:42:12,797 --> 00:42:14,330
[male reporter]
we go to weld county,
715
00:42:14,398 --> 00:42:15,798
Where a jury
is split on what happened
716
00:42:15,866 --> 00:42:17,499
To young jonelle matthews.
717
00:42:17,569 --> 00:42:18,668
[female reporter]
the jury couldn't agree
718
00:42:18,736 --> 00:42:21,003
If steve pankey
is innocent or guilty
719
00:42:21,005 --> 00:42:22,672
In her kidnapping and murder.
720
00:42:22,740 --> 00:42:25,508
This morning, a judge declared
a mistrial in the case.
721
00:42:27,612 --> 00:42:29,345
[jennifer] I didn't know
exactly what that meant.
722
00:42:30,949 --> 00:42:33,683
You might think
it's so blatantly obvious,
723
00:42:33,751 --> 00:42:37,554
But you don't know what
12 other people are thinking.
724
00:42:39,924 --> 00:42:42,358
Our family has to wait again
for justice for jonelle.
725
00:42:45,730 --> 00:42:49,499
[gloria] I was so disappointed.
726
00:42:49,567 --> 00:42:55,338
22,000 pages of
testimonies, documents,
727
00:42:55,406 --> 00:42:59,642
And it all didn't mean anything
because three of the jurors said
728
00:42:59,711 --> 00:43:02,679
That we couldn't prove
that he was on the premises.
729
00:43:06,450 --> 00:43:07,784
What else can we do?
730
00:43:11,889 --> 00:43:13,622
No way we were gonna give up.
731
00:43:13,692 --> 00:43:15,291
And I told the matthews family
right away
732
00:43:15,359 --> 00:43:17,393
That there's no question
in our minds we'll be back.
733
00:43:21,265 --> 00:43:24,400
But this was gonna be
a massive undertaking.
734
00:43:28,739 --> 00:43:30,940
Within two hours,
prill's writing a to-do list,
735
00:43:31,008 --> 00:43:32,842
Things that happened
during the course of his trial
736
00:43:32,910 --> 00:43:35,345
That we think
had opened doors to
737
00:43:35,413 --> 00:43:37,547
Other pieces of information,
other evidence,
738
00:43:37,615 --> 00:43:40,616
Other witnesses that
we couldn't call the first time.
739
00:43:40,685 --> 00:43:42,952
Pankey opened the doors
for us when he testified.
740
00:43:43,020 --> 00:43:44,287
That was significant.
741
00:43:46,190 --> 00:43:48,491
[robert] we knew that there
was a lot of things in this case
742
00:43:48,559 --> 00:43:50,759
That had to with steve.
We couldn't get into it.
743
00:43:50,829 --> 00:43:52,828
We couldn't talk about deb moon
744
00:43:52,897 --> 00:43:55,831
And the domestic abuse
towards angela hicks.
745
00:43:55,900 --> 00:43:58,768
But if the defense
opens the door
746
00:43:58,836 --> 00:44:00,502
To a piece of evidence
that has to do with
747
00:44:00,572 --> 00:44:03,705
Something that
we can't provide--
748
00:44:03,707 --> 00:44:04,640
If they open
the door to something,
749
00:44:04,709 --> 00:44:06,042
Then we can...
750
00:44:06,110 --> 00:44:08,710
We can start talking about it.
751
00:44:08,712 --> 00:44:11,113
I never imagined
that she would say
752
00:44:11,115 --> 00:44:14,650
All the things
that she said about me.
753
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:17,487
In the first trial,
mr. Pankey painted angela
754
00:44:17,555 --> 00:44:21,723
As a vindictive,
bitter, scorned woman.
755
00:44:21,725 --> 00:44:22,858
[michael] any other
reason you can think of
756
00:44:22,927 --> 00:44:24,526
That she would get on the stand
757
00:44:24,596 --> 00:44:26,996
And lie about something
that happened 37 years ago?
758
00:44:27,064 --> 00:44:28,765
A woman scorned.
That's all I know.
759
00:44:30,568 --> 00:44:32,701
[lacy] he taunted us
with what we knew
760
00:44:32,771 --> 00:44:35,004
And didn't have
a court order to get into.
761
00:44:35,073 --> 00:44:37,873
But him painting her
as a scorned woman
762
00:44:37,942 --> 00:44:42,478
Allowed us to explain
the psychological abuse
763
00:44:42,546 --> 00:44:44,347
That she had endured through
her marriage with pankey.
764
00:44:46,651 --> 00:44:49,751
[michael] this elaborate lie
that you have talked about
765
00:44:49,753 --> 00:44:52,689
Is to get back at russ ross,
766
00:44:52,757 --> 00:44:54,824
Sunny view church
of the nazarene,
767
00:44:54,892 --> 00:44:57,693
And the greeley
police department.
768
00:44:57,761 --> 00:44:59,662
That's partially right.
769
00:45:00,898 --> 00:45:03,132
When mr. Pankey testified,
770
00:45:03,201 --> 00:45:05,935
He told us as much
on the stand himself,
771
00:45:06,003 --> 00:45:07,569
In his own words,
772
00:45:07,639 --> 00:45:12,842
That everything about
jonelle stems from deb moon.
773
00:45:12,910 --> 00:45:14,377
[michael] are you trying
to get back at anybody else?
774
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:20,116
That's part of
the protected stuff.
775
00:45:20,184 --> 00:45:23,886
[michael] excuse me?
What protected stuff?
776
00:45:23,954 --> 00:45:28,024
The stuff that's--
the judge ruled on.
777
00:45:28,092 --> 00:45:31,461
[lacy] he talked about it being
pure hatred with the church,
778
00:45:31,529 --> 00:45:36,065
And that it all stems from 1977,
but that's the protected stuff,
779
00:45:36,133 --> 00:45:38,734
And you're not
allowed to go there.
780
00:45:38,802 --> 00:45:42,872
And finally it allowed us
to at least argue
781
00:45:42,940 --> 00:45:45,875
That deb moon's
instance was connected with
782
00:45:45,943 --> 00:45:47,110
Jonelle's disappearance.
783
00:45:49,647 --> 00:45:52,214
At that point,
we had the judge's blessing
784
00:45:52,216 --> 00:45:54,050
To bring in miss moon.
785
00:45:55,953 --> 00:45:57,186
And she said yes.
786
00:46:02,861 --> 00:46:04,260
[mike] most importantly,
787
00:46:04,328 --> 00:46:07,229
I knew all along
788
00:46:07,231 --> 00:46:08,998
That pankey
had filed a complaint
789
00:46:09,066 --> 00:46:12,068
Against the greeley
police department in 1985.
790
00:46:14,105 --> 00:46:16,172
And made a statement
that he knows specifically
791
00:46:16,240 --> 00:46:18,641
That two cops lived on
the same street as jonelle.
792
00:46:21,445 --> 00:46:23,179
So for pankey
to know that any cop,
793
00:46:23,247 --> 00:46:25,648
Let alone two cops,
lived on the same street,
794
00:46:25,716 --> 00:46:29,885
He would've had to conduct
his own private surveillance.
795
00:46:29,954 --> 00:46:32,788
But in his podcast
and his other interviews,
796
00:46:32,857 --> 00:46:35,257
He would assert that he had
never been in that neighborhood
797
00:46:35,326 --> 00:46:37,126
And really didn't even know
where it was at.
798
00:46:39,297 --> 00:46:41,130
But we couldn't use
that in the first trial
799
00:46:41,199 --> 00:46:45,000
Because the perceiving
witness is dead.
800
00:46:45,069 --> 00:46:47,069
But between
the first and second trial,
801
00:46:47,138 --> 00:46:50,672
Angela found yet
more writings by him
802
00:46:50,674 --> 00:46:51,507
With a whole different story.
803
00:46:53,878 --> 00:46:56,178
[angela] I had kept
all of this documentation
804
00:46:56,247 --> 00:46:59,615
That I provided to the
sun valley police in the '90s.
805
00:46:59,683 --> 00:47:02,585
And I could see on
one of the piece of papers,
806
00:47:02,653 --> 00:47:06,856
It said, "two cops living within
a block of jonelle matthews."
807
00:47:10,595 --> 00:47:11,694
[mike] couldn't believe it
when I saw it.
808
00:47:14,165 --> 00:47:16,632
I called rob and I'm like,
"dude, you have to hear this."
809
00:47:16,701 --> 00:47:17,934
And I could hear him
jumping up and down
810
00:47:18,002 --> 00:47:19,768
On the other end of the line.
811
00:47:19,837 --> 00:47:22,204
Like, we finally get to
introduce this evidence.
812
00:47:22,273 --> 00:47:23,805
And it's coming in
through pankey.
813
00:47:23,807 --> 00:47:25,541
He wrote it!
814
00:47:25,610 --> 00:47:27,143
So now we're able to tell a jury
815
00:47:27,211 --> 00:47:29,878
That pankey
was conducting surveillance
816
00:47:29,948 --> 00:47:32,148
In jonelle's neighborhood
before she passed away.
817
00:47:34,985 --> 00:47:35,751
[female reporter]
thirty-eight years
818
00:47:35,820 --> 00:47:37,086
Since a 12-year-old
girl in greeley
819
00:47:37,154 --> 00:47:38,987
Was kidnapped and murder.
820
00:47:38,989 --> 00:47:40,856
Today, the man accused
of killing jonelle matthews
821
00:47:40,925 --> 00:47:43,158
Was back in court
for his second trial.
822
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:44,126
[male reporter]
jonelle matthews is a name
823
00:47:44,194 --> 00:47:47,196
That we've heard in colorado
for decades now.
824
00:47:47,264 --> 00:47:48,998
So once again, steve pankey
was in the courtroom
825
00:47:49,066 --> 00:47:50,800
Listening on headphones
826
00:47:50,868 --> 00:47:52,868
While county da
michael rourke argues
827
00:47:52,936 --> 00:47:55,671
Pankey is guilty
based on things he said
828
00:47:55,739 --> 00:47:57,173
And how he's acted
over the years.
829
00:47:58,943 --> 00:48:00,509
[lazy] when deb testified,
830
00:48:00,511 --> 00:48:02,244
She tells her story
very factually.
831
00:48:02,313 --> 00:48:03,779
She's eloquent.
832
00:48:03,848 --> 00:48:06,248
And she takes a moment,
and she turns around,
833
00:48:06,317 --> 00:48:08,984
And she faces mr. Pankey.
834
00:48:09,053 --> 00:48:11,020
And she looks him
dead in the eyes
835
00:48:11,088 --> 00:48:13,389
Until he looks away first.
836
00:48:13,457 --> 00:48:15,825
And I think that moment was
837
00:48:15,893 --> 00:48:18,160
All the satisfaction
she needed out of this trial.
838
00:48:18,229 --> 00:48:21,163
[dramatic music]
839
00:48:21,232 --> 00:48:24,166
[lacy] but angela was essential.
840
00:48:24,234 --> 00:48:27,403
We could not do
this without her.
841
00:48:27,471 --> 00:48:30,138
[michael]
angela was our star witness.
842
00:48:30,140 --> 00:48:33,375
There's no way that
we convict steve pankey
843
00:48:33,377 --> 00:48:35,977
Without angela hicks.
844
00:48:35,979 --> 00:48:38,280
This time, she wasn't muzzled
845
00:48:38,349 --> 00:48:40,049
As much as
she was the first time.
846
00:48:42,319 --> 00:48:44,920
[angela] all those
years I had to suppress
847
00:48:44,989 --> 00:48:47,456
The story of
what I went through.
848
00:48:47,525 --> 00:48:50,359
I had to go through
it all again.
849
00:48:50,428 --> 00:48:53,696
It was like
a moment of reckoning to me.
850
00:48:55,967 --> 00:48:58,100
I just said,
"god, I give this to you.
851
00:48:58,168 --> 00:49:01,036
"please let there be
a resolution to this.
852
00:49:01,038 --> 00:49:03,872
"please keep me safe.
853
00:49:03,941 --> 00:49:05,308
And let there be
justice for jonelle."
854
00:49:12,216 --> 00:49:14,149
[tense music]
855
00:49:14,218 --> 00:49:16,852
[robert] it took
38 years for us to...
856
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:18,921
To find steve pankey.
857
00:49:22,893 --> 00:49:25,627
But we found him
and we convicted him
858
00:49:25,629 --> 00:49:28,297
For the murder of
jonelle matthews.
859
00:49:28,365 --> 00:49:29,431
[female reporter]
nearly four decades
860
00:49:29,433 --> 00:49:30,799
After a young girl disappeared,
861
00:49:30,868 --> 00:49:34,035
A jury has convicted her killer.
862
00:49:34,037 --> 00:49:37,206
[angela] I could just
feel my heart pounding.
863
00:49:37,274 --> 00:49:40,576
And they said, "kidnapping
in the first degree, guilty."
864
00:49:40,644 --> 00:49:43,312
And then, "murder, guilty."
865
00:49:43,381 --> 00:49:44,947
[male reporter]
a master manipulator
866
00:49:45,015 --> 00:49:47,449
Who murdered a 12-year-old
girl in cold blood.
867
00:49:47,518 --> 00:49:50,385
A judge sentenced him
to life in prison.
868
00:49:50,454 --> 00:49:52,321
I am a christian.
869
00:49:52,390 --> 00:49:55,190
I will be in heaven.
870
00:49:55,259 --> 00:49:56,892
I am innocent.
871
00:50:00,397 --> 00:50:03,933
It was the best feeling ever.
872
00:50:04,001 --> 00:50:09,871
Almost an instant release
of the last 38 years.
873
00:50:09,941 --> 00:50:11,774
All the blood, sweat, and tears
that have gone into this.
874
00:50:13,177 --> 00:50:15,077
After the verdict,
I talked to cash.
875
00:50:17,047 --> 00:50:21,984
I just have nothing
but admiration for him,
876
00:50:22,052 --> 00:50:23,985
For all the work
that he's done for our family,
877
00:50:24,055 --> 00:50:25,321
What they all have.
878
00:50:27,090 --> 00:50:28,958
[mike] it felt great.
879
00:50:29,026 --> 00:50:31,293
Justice has
finally been meted out.
880
00:50:33,964 --> 00:50:35,097
[michael]
when you hear "guilty"?
881
00:50:35,165 --> 00:50:36,498
Are you kidding me?
882
00:50:36,567 --> 00:50:40,036
On a case like that
that we worked on so hard...
883
00:50:40,104 --> 00:50:41,270
It meant the world.
884
00:50:43,207 --> 00:50:45,507
Um...
885
00:50:45,509 --> 00:50:48,109
Relieved.
886
00:50:48,111 --> 00:50:49,412
And proud.
887
00:50:52,650 --> 00:50:54,350
It had been a long time coming.
888
00:50:58,455 --> 00:51:01,022
[robert]
it flashed before my eyes,
889
00:51:01,024 --> 00:51:04,159
First being tasked
with the case back in 2013
890
00:51:04,228 --> 00:51:07,529
To all the work that was done,
891
00:51:07,531 --> 00:51:11,934
The sticking to it,
not giving up ever.
892
00:51:13,637 --> 00:51:16,038
I don't think I cried.
[laughs]
893
00:51:16,106 --> 00:51:21,210
[bright, gentle music]
894
00:51:21,278 --> 00:51:24,847
[robert] there are
monsters in this world...
895
00:51:27,618 --> 00:51:30,386
...That will exist
only to hurt others.
896
00:51:32,856 --> 00:51:34,924
I think it's important that
897
00:51:34,992 --> 00:51:37,960
People listen to their
gut feeling about things.
898
00:51:42,066 --> 00:51:45,034
Cases like this only exist
because of bad people.
899
00:51:48,506 --> 00:51:53,208
[bright, gentle music]
900
00:51:53,277 --> 00:51:55,010
Let me just leave it at that.
901
00:52:01,151 --> 00:52:04,453
[jim] if jonelle
had been alive today,
902
00:52:04,521 --> 00:52:07,356
I'm she would make us all proud.
903
00:52:10,661 --> 00:52:14,596
We only had her for
a little less than 13 years.
904
00:52:14,598 --> 00:52:18,200
But...She was an amazing child.
905
00:52:21,772 --> 00:52:23,939
[jennifer] I feel
peace and know that
906
00:52:24,007 --> 00:52:26,242
She is part of my story.
907
00:52:26,310 --> 00:52:28,911
I had a sister.
Her name was jonelle.
908
00:52:32,316 --> 00:52:35,350
[gloria] I think both
jim and I, at the very end,
909
00:52:35,419 --> 00:52:40,422
Don't care whether
we have all the answers or not.
910
00:52:40,490 --> 00:52:42,491
So many of
my christian friends say
911
00:52:42,559 --> 00:52:44,326
That I have to forgive him.
912
00:52:44,395 --> 00:52:46,962
But I can't.
913
00:52:47,030 --> 00:52:49,698
Sp was going to go
914
00:52:49,767 --> 00:52:53,234
For the rest of his life...
915
00:52:53,236 --> 00:52:54,603
Behind bars.
916
00:52:55,839 --> 00:52:59,074
And I, I like that.
917
00:52:59,143 --> 00:53:04,646
[bright, gentle music]
918
00:53:04,648 --> 00:53:07,149
[angela] having someone
treat you this way
919
00:53:07,217 --> 00:53:09,084
For a long period of time,
920
00:53:09,153 --> 00:53:12,153
It just forever
distorts your trust
921
00:53:12,223 --> 00:53:15,791
And your perception
of everything.
922
00:53:15,859 --> 00:53:19,562
But for the first time in
a long time, I feel safe.
923
00:53:27,604 --> 00:53:29,338
[jennifer] angela took
her life in her hands.
924
00:53:31,475 --> 00:53:35,311
We owe all of this to angela.
925
00:53:36,847 --> 00:53:38,680
Her pursuit for
justice for jonelle
926
00:53:38,749 --> 00:53:40,749
Is why we are here.
927
00:53:42,486 --> 00:53:54,096
[bright, gentle music]
928
00:54:00,504 --> 00:54:12,314
[bright, gentle music]
71804
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