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spin-offs almost never work they usually miss the magic of their predecessor run for half a season and are quickly
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forgotten resigned to the dust bin of TV history Frasier was not just an exception it was one of those rare
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sitcoms that went from spin-off to its own full-fledged hit a classic of the '90s Frasier ran for 11 seasons and was
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a critical darling with 37 Emmy wins which as of 2022 was the third highest ever for a series and the highest for
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any sitcom Frasier was in some ways an unlikely success story as big a hit as cheers was being a cheers spin-off
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wasn't a Surefire recipe for Success the first spin-off attempt the tortellis lasted a mere 13 episodes before it was
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cancelled when cheers went off the air a poll conducted by Pew found that of all the Cheers characters who might get a
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spin-off only 2% of fans wanted to see one starring Frasier not the best of
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Omens but Frasier quickly won over any doubters by being a hit from its very first episode of course the story behind
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how that show came to be started before that first title card it's hard to explain Frasier without explaining all
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of cheers and luckily I've already done that if you'd like to hear a detailed breakdown of that show please check out my video on Cheers for everyone else
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here's a quick refresher Frasier Crane was introduced in season 3 of the series as a foil in the Sam Diane will they
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won't they relationship although the character was intended to make a quick exit appearing as a temporary boyfriend
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for Diane Kelsey Grammar made such a strong impression on the show's producer that they kept him around for the next eight seasons in that time he was left
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at the alar by Diane met and married Lilith sternin had a child named Frederick revealed that he had been married once before in his younger days
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and eventually divorced Lilith only to seemingly reconcile in the final season of the show at the end of Cheers Frasier
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was set to spend the rest of his days sitting in that bar in Boston listening to Cliff tell Tall Tales watching Norm
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drink countless beers and inhaling dangerous levels of Sam Malon many layers of cologne but a Frasier spin-off
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took the character in a New Direction let's briefly talk about wings the series was created by David Angel Peter
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Casey and David Lee all former writers on Cheers it was through their production company grub Street
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Productions that they approached Kelsey Grammar about working on a new series they had a good relationship from their time on Cheers together so much so that
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Frasier even made a guest appearance on an episode of wings All
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Aboard a crane Train to mental well-being originally this new project wasn't going to be a cheers related
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spin-off at all but rather an original series starring Kelsey gramar the idea they came up with was that of a wealthy
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Mogul who was in a motorcycle accident and then confined to his bedroom running his entire Empire from his bed the idea
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was rejected by NBC and Paramount and it was firmly suggested that the new show would be about Fraser crane he looked
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across the table and said uh there's only one thing I got to tell you I think a sitcom should be
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funny it's got to be Frasier we got to do Frasier again if Frasier was going to return Kelsey gramar and insisted on the
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rest of the show being something entirely new so the character was packed up moved to Seattle and would start a new life as a radio psychiatrist Frasier
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Crane would be played of course by Kelsey gramar the audite sophisticated man returning to his hometown although
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he had known Frasier for 9 years on Cheers in Seattle he would be far more inclined to let his more cultured side
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show with less time spent on bar stools and more time spent in Opera boxes he would also spend less time being married
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and more time trying to figure out how to be a single man in his 40s I'm Miss Frederick like the Dickens of course you
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know he's quite a boy he's playing goalie on the PB soccer team now Chip over the old
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block you hated Sports so does he David Hyde Pierce was cast as Niles
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crane Frasier's younger brother although the initial idea for the show never included a Brother character he was added after assistant casting director
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Sheila Guthrie pointed out how much Pierce resembled a young Kelsey gramar particularly in his first appearance on
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Cheers after the character was created the role went Direct appears who created exactly what you would expect of
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Frasier's brother Prim eccentric and dripping with snobbery oh I'm sorry N I didn't realize you'd stop
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talking you haven't heard a word I said oh NES you're a psychiatrist you know what it's like to listen to people prattling on endlessly about their
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mundane lives T and on that subject I heard your show today Martin crane was
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played by John Mahoney the gruff former cop who finds himself suddenly living with Frasier after he becomes unable to
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handle life on his own due to a gunshot shot wound he received a few years prior Martin was inspired by the real life
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experience of siries co-creator David Lee who had been helping take care of his infirm father at the time I was thinking about a recent stroke that my
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father had had and I mentioned to Peter and David have you noticed that everybody our age is starting to have to take care of their parents more and sort
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of try to tie up old strings and heal wounds heal wounds Mahoney was the first
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choice for the character and much like Pierce was offered the role directly my study you expect me to give up my study
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the place where I read where I do my most profound thinking I used the can like the rest of the world Jane leaves
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played Daphney Moon Martin's physical therapist and living housekeeper for Frasier and Martin although initially
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there was some discussion on making her Latina The Producers eventually made Daphne English and Jane leaves like
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Pierce and Mahoney before her was pre-approve for the role daany provides a quirkier side of Frasier's home life
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occasionally dropping in strange stories from her days back in Manchester and having the odd psychic Vision wait a
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minute I'm getting something on you you're a florist
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no I'm a psychiatrist well it comes and goes Ros Doyle played by Perry Gilpin is
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the hard-edged foil to the more gential character of Frasier she brings her Frank way of speaking to bear in most
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scenes at the kacl radio station along with a very prolific dating life the only character whose actor wasn't
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pre-approved at first Lisa cudra was cast to be raw Gilpin was brought in when things didn't work out with her
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although kudra would find her own success a year later when she was cast as Phoebe in the show Friends totally
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passionless it was like he was thinking of someone else I know I
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was somebody's here I got to go all right I'll talk to you later bye mom the
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final member of the cast was a lovable Jack Russell Terrier named moose who played the role of Eddie Martin's pet
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dog moose played Eddie for the first six seasons but in later Seasons with moose getting older his son Enzo took up the
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family business and also played Eddie Dad I can't read my paper Eddie's staring at me
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well you do make quite a picture in the morning just ignore him I'm trying to
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I'm talking to the dog although the principal cast was relatively small Frasier made the most
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of them with numerous episodes exploring the antics of the Korean men and the women who tolerated them there were several recurring characters who joined
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them including Dan Butler as Bob Bulldog Brisco Edward Hibert as Gil Chesterton and Tom mcowan as Kenny Daly even though
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Frasier was a spin-off there was such a strong desire for it to be it own show that very few cameos came from cheers
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regulars with one exception BB newerth who would reprise her role as Lilith in every season of Frasier although the
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show had no theme song Its ending theme toss salad and scrambled eggs sung by grammar at his insistence is one of TV's
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most memorable closers according to the series composer Bruce Miller the lyrics weren't allowed to make any reference to
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the subject matter of the show including its title and there has been some speculation as to what the song even means although the lyrics seem
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nonsensical they actually do tell us story hey baby I hear the blues a call in TOS salad and scrambled eggs refers
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to Frasier's callers on his radio show the next part but maybe I seem a bit confused maybe but I got you pegged
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refers to Fraser struggling to understand his own life but still being able to help but I don't know what to do
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with these toss salad and scrambled eggs they're calling again is a reference to an endless stream of people calling for
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[Music] help on September 16th 1993 Frasier
The Pilot Episode
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debuted and much of America was watching the premiere of Frasier was titled The
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Good Son and was written by the show's creators David Angel Peter Casey and David Lee and directed by longstanding
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cheers director James buroughs it very quickly filled in the blanks as to what happened with Frasier following the end
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of Cheers 6 months ago I was living in Boston my wife had left me which was
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very painful then she came back to me which was excruciating
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reflecting on this moment writer David Isaac said that got a big laugh bigger than it should have I thought to myself
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we're going to be okay part of the premise is given to us right away with Frasier hosting a Radio Show in Seattle
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and we are introduced to his brother Niles in a creative way Frasier made use of title cards to introduce scenes so
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instead of having an awkward bit of dialogue where the relationship between Frasier and Niles is acknowledged explicitly the title card simply reads
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the brother these title cards became an iconic part of the Frasier style often framing your expectations for a scene
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with some important information or providing a joke to add a bit more levity into the scene in the cafe Niles
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helpfully introduces the idea that Martin should move in with Frasier all right I'll make up the spare bedroom oh
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you're a good son Fraser oh God I am aren't I two Cafe supremos anything to eat no I
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seem to have lost my appetite I'll have a large piece of cheesecake Martin is
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not thrilled with the arrangement we all know why I'm here your old man can't be left alone for 10 minutes without
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falling on his ass and phrase you got stuck with me isn't that right no no
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no I want you here it'll give us a chance to get reacquainted that implies we were acquainted at one
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[Laughter] point Martin brings one piece of furniture with him to complete Frasier's
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carefully decorated apartment his iconic chair after a suggestion from Niles Frasier decides to hire some help and we
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then meet Daphne you were a policeman weren't you yeah how'd you know I must
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confess I'm a bit cic Martin instantly wants to hire her
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partially I suspect to annoy Frasier the main conflict of this episode is between Frasier and Martin struggling to find a
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way to live together ever since you moved in here it's been a snide comment about this or a smart little put down
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about that well I've done my best to make a home here for you and once just once would it have killed you to say
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thank you one lousy thank you after the fight Martin makes a gesture to Frasier
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the best way he can yeah I'm worried my son doesn't know that I really appreciate what he's done for
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me why don't you tell him a you know how it is with Fathers and Sons it have
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trouble saying that stuff well if it helps I suspect your son already knows
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how you feel is that all
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yeah I guess that's it thank you Dr crane my pleasure Martin you hear what I said I said thank you yes I heard what
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makes this a great pilot is that it not only establishes the premise and introduces the characters but also sets
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up one of the primary plot lines for the first few seasons Frasier and Martin reconnecting after Frasier had spent 15
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years away in Boston one thing abundantly clear is that this show will be set in the world of the upper class
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Frasier is obviously well off and so is Niles and while Martin and dle certainly aren't both of them will be living under
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Frasier's roof reacting to the context he's created for them and RZ while more akin to Daphne and Martin in class
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status typically appears in scenes at the radio station the cafe or Fraser's apartment in a supporting role when you
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look at the class backgrounds of the characters this split between them matters far less than the context they find themselves in ultimately this show
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is about Frasier's World Niles might be the best fit into it but to an extent all the other characters are trying to
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fit into Frasier's world as well and this is all very ironic considering this whole episode is about Frasier fighting himself in a new context it speaks to
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the power of perspective and how when a show focuses on one character it can very easily shape the world around them
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and how they Define this [Music]
Frasier
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space living in an apartment that is almost timelessly classic in its design working the cushy job of radio
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psychiatrist and going to Chic restaurants and art events Fraser crane is a man of means and class he's also
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incredibly arrogant and sometimes a complete goof but none of these qualities make him
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particularly likable the key to Fraser's appeal is that he very deeply cares about people Frasier's job as a
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radiotherapist makes him something of a local celebrity in Seattle more so than you'd expect from someone on the radio
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and Frasier is more than happy to Revel in that Fame and Fortune then I will just tell them that they can take their
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five figure deal and find someone else five figures didn't I mention precious
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this is for television the big Kon television research has shown that a single television commercial can turn an
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obscure radio personality into a national celebrity a year from now someone like
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you could be broadcasting your message of Hope and healing not just to the Pacific Northwest but to the entire
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nation that celebrity affords Fraser access to Seattle's more Elite circles often hobbying with the most impressive
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of knobs what makes Razer fun to watch is when that class status makes him the subject of mockery for example when
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Bulldog tricks him into singing some Gilbert at Sullivan I don't suppose you happen to remember the words to Three
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Little Maids well let me see Three Little Maids from school are
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we is a school girl well maybe filled with the brim with girlish
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GLE it's the classic comedy Trope of laughing at someone in a higher class be humiliated and while it's easy to laugh
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at Frasier's class making him look silly it does make it tougher to empathize with him when it also isolates him from
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suffering in The Crucible Frasier is the victim of fraud when a painting he's purchased is revealed to be a forgery I
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didn't paint it of of course you didn't you you
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created it you gave birth to it I didn't do anything to it I never
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saw this painting before in my whole life and you thought I was going to embarrass
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you the cops are unable to help Frasier and a legal proceeding against the gallery he bought the painting from
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would cost more than the painting is worth leaving him with nothing to do but hurl a brick through the gallery's window if you act like a barbarian you
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will become a barbarian give me the brick Frasier and let him get away with this I
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know I know but the gallery owner did to you was wrong it was humiliating but if you throw that brick
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through that window you will have lost something more Val valuable than your money you have
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lost your mind frer you can't do this Injustice for Frasier is a blow to his
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ego but not the material conditions of his life Niles's advice is good only in so far that Frasier can afford to take a
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little humiliation what if this was someone who swindled out of their savings or even their weekly paycheck
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the real lesson here is that the privileged can afford for the system to fail them at the end of the show's Fifth Season Frasier stand against kacl
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station manager it's him and all of his colleagues fired and we see Frasier in season 6 out of work for the first Nine
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episodes Frasier you're not famous
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anymore Kelsey Grammer spoke about these episodes with Fraser being out of work we thought it was a good storyline we
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got nine stories out of it we thought it was an interesting Journey for him to take we always knew he was going to go
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back to the station but I think it might have made the audience uncomfortable because Frasier wasn't as attractive
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there was something more sad about him Frasier's suffering is a huge part of what makes the show work but that's
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often seen through his many failures in dating or struggling to hold a dinner party being out of work hit differently
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it's easy enough to empathize with a Frasier struggling to find someone dating is universal and when his fancy
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dinner parties go arai it's usually just his own vanity biting him in the butt but this pain wasn't as easy to laugh at
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it was understandable without being relatable because even out of work Frasier wasn't hurting for money he was
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upset that he wasn't famous anymore it's possible to pity Frasier but it's a lot harder to empathize and empathy is at
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the heart of what makes Frasier a great character we can see Fraser's personal empathy in his chosen profession as a
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psychiatrist Fraser's background in Psychiatry means he's a medical doctor who has chosen to specialize in mental
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health although being a character created in 1984 he represents a very old-fashioned depiction of a
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psychiatrist one who fits the classic mold of having a patient sit on a couch while they talk through their problems
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as their psychiatrist takes notes and offers a few insights something more likely to see a psychologist do today
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rather than a psychiatrist Frasier practices his Psychiatry through his radio show hello Mark I'm listening okay
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uh well I work at this all night Mini Mart and um I've been watching myself on
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the video camera and the camera me is doing things I don't approve of these calls are often voiced by some
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pretty popular actors including Mel Brooks Ben Stellar Elijah Wood Mary Tyler Moore and Kevin Bacon Frasier is a
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Freudian which dates them even further back to the practice of psychoanalysis and psychoanalysis as is sometimes
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mentioned on the show doesn't have the best track record in the episode chess pains after losing several games of
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Chess against his father Frasier is obsessed with winning I am analyzing my options unlike your winging approach I
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like to plan a strategy like a general leading his troops into
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battle checkm Schwarz cop Frasier who fancies himself
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intellectual force can accept that his less educated father who had never played chess before is better than him
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so Frasier and Niles analyze why this is happening sooner or later the sun eclipses the father it's the natural
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order yet it's frequently a stumbling block because the sun's competitive stirrings are accompanied by tremendous
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feelings of guilt I see yes it's the classic edible conflict my God it seems
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so obvious now I've been letting him win later Martin cuts the heart of what's really happening this isn't about losing
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is it this is about losing to me that's what's driving you nuts how could I lose
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to the old man I'm much smarter than he is I never said that no you didn't have to say you've thought it all your life no I haven't yes you haven't are you're
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insulting my intelligence again the answer is painfully obvious Martin is just better at chess than Frasier in
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fact there's an episode of Cheers where Frasier loses a game of chess to the slow-witted Woody raising serious
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questions about Fraser's chess skills rather than accept that maybe he needs to improve his chess game Frasier and
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Niles con Co this Freudian explanation as to why Frasier keeps losing it isn't a genuine attempt to understand the
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situation but rather to protect Fraser's ego on the presumption that an educated man like him must be better at chess
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than Martin even when Frasier finally wins he has to make a subtle nod to his little pet theory about this being some
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kind of eatable struggle I'm sorry I beat you Dad this once again highlights how
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Frasier is at its funniest when it's highlighting the excesses of the character the series often includes
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skepticism towards psychiat and psychology more broadly or at least the type practiced by Frasier and Niles I'm
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not like a psychiatrist who works with someone for years and years and it doesn't matter if they ever get
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better a bust of Freud oh well that's really quite thoughtful of you I figured
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you'd appreciate the irony since he's been proven wrong about practically
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everything I like to think that Freud's theories will stand the test of time really have you read either of his
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books oh what a relief I've been ringing my hands over nothing I mean it's okay all I want to do is have sex with my
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dead mother that last clip is Fraser San in
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relief because he's figured out the meaning of a particularly difficult dream he's been having where he finds himself in bed with his colleague
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Gil well look who's up although dreams being secret desires
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people have isn't backed by much scientific evidence if you're someone who buys into dream analysis the obvious
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reading here is that Frasier is secretly gay an interpretation he resists here's something dreams as an expression of
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wish fulfillment moving on so he and Niles dive deep into their
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knowledge of dream analysis to pull together all sorts of conclusions that will supposedly resolve the tension in
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Fraser's mind letting him avoid these dreams of course it's so obvious Gil is
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a food critic food criticism mother once again this analysis is very forced the
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tools of Freudian psychoanalysis are less a tool for greater understanding and used instead to reassure Fraser's
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ego in the decades since his ideas were introduced much of the work of Sigman Freud has largely been supplanted the
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best explanation I've heard as to why he should still be taught in an academic setting is that his insights were incredibly important even though his
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conclusions were ridiculous for example his Insight that human development is a product of not nature or n but rather
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nature interacting with nurture was groundbreaking but his conclusion that development was The Guiding of sexual
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desire through distinct stages from infancy to adolesence including breastfeeding leading to some kind of oral fixation is completely without
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empirical support while it might seem like I'm being a bit unfair to an older show none of what I'm saying is
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particularly new Freud's theories have been criticized for decades and much of this was known in the 9s Frasier
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represents the classic idea of a psychiatrist in the world of Pop Culture not reality the the type of psychoanalysis done by Frasier is
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sometimes not much better than what Daphne can figure out on her own in your dream who was in the shower Gill what is
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a shower running water who needs water fish what do fish have gills do you see
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where I'm going by the end of this episode Frasier realizes he's feeling frustrated at work
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because he finds a lack of challenge in the colors he's getting and according to him and Niles that should resolve the dream except the episode ends like this
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Dr CR Dr Sigman fre my goodness it's quite an honor the
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honor is all mine I gave you a complex psychological problem and your soul right now we have more important
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matters and just to be clear I'm not saying therapy is a bad thing in fact working with a psychiatrist or
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psychologist can be incredibly helpful in improving one's mental health what I am saying is that Frasier and Niles
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often let their biases impact their Psychiatry particularly when they try to understand themselves and that some of
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the theories and ideas that they use are very out of date even for the '90s there is another problem with the type of
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Psychiatry practiced by Frasier and NES too generally speaking it is very expensive while Frasier doesn't charge
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his color anything his background and expertise come from a field of medicine that is very lucrative psychoanalytic
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therapy can involve multiple sessions a week sometimes lasting for years and at a cost of $1 to $200 a session in
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today's money this type of therapy can be very costly another way which the series demonstrates the barriers class
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places between acts of compassion although Fraser has chosen a field that puts his help out of the reach of all but the most privileged one overarching
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aspect of his character and one that makes him particularly likable is that he genuinely wants to help other people
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this can be seen in him choosing to host a show where people can call in with their problems for free as limited help as that may be one specific example of
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Fraser's compassion overcoming his vanity is in the episode Death Becomes him when Martin's physician suddenly
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passes away a man who was similar in physique behavior and temperament to Frasier it leads him to question his own
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mortality Frasier D please sh trying to listen to my
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heartbeat Frasier becomes obsessed planning his own funeral and trying to find a way in which this doctor
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neglected his health he even crashes the men's Shiva to learn more about him he only steps out of his vanity when the
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opportunity to help someone arises I suppose the best we can do is is live for the little Joys and uh
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surprises that life affords us you can't spend your life being
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obsessed with death you're not Jewish are you
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Frasier's Insight come from his own experiences and he uses these moments of compassion for others as opportunities
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to grow himself which isn't the safest way to practice Psychiatry but on a more human emotional level it offers the
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chance for two people to help one another in the episode Dark Victory a disastrous birthday party for Martin
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leaves everyone
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bickering no wait R where you going with a blackout keeping them all indoors
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Frasier makes the rounds with everyone in his little extended family offering advice to calm their various tensions
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maybe you're just looking for too much from your job we should start exploring other areas of your life interests maybe
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a maybe a serious relationship maybe you're right right I
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me how long can I go on chasing these hunky 25y olds that are all looks and no substance exactly Ron oh I'm serious I'm
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asking how long 3 four years it just makes me feel like I'm not very ambitious I mean I could be working in a
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hospital or a clinic of course you could daely but maybe that's not L important to you right now I think you like being
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part of a family you can't walk around Paris you could sit at a nice cafe and
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let Paris walk past you maybe buy a glass of wine for a beautiful mm
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moiselle get yourself a nice bottle of imported beer I only like Valentine's in
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Paris Valentine's is imported beer could it be that you really upset
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just because you you couldn't help that woman you know I really hate that when you take a simple criticism and you turn
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it back on me I think I'm right well of course you're right why do you think I hate it and at the end of it all Frasier
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is left emotionally spent I tend to each one of you and you all feel better and
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the minute you get a whiff of mosquite coming from down below you are out the door without so
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much as a thank you well thank you for the invitation but I am frankly fed up with people and
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their problems the doctor is out oh come
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on okay apologies accepted you come Frasier is a helper from from the
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callers on his show to his own family and more than that he's willing to sacrifice his own downtime to help others albeit while venting his
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frustrations at the situation which is totally fair when you consider his job is to help people and having to do the
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same for the people in his personal life might feel incredibly taxing but that gets to the heart of why he's a likable
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character he's willing to put others before himself one particularly clever part of this episode is that it takes
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place during a blackout which makes the fancy trappings around them disappear leaving the characters with only the
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props of their own baggage with all that gone Frasier can navigate through the void using only his compassion to
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connect with his loved ones and it works very well problems are solved Rifts are mended and everyone is brought a few
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steps closer to each other in the episode the thousandth Show Seattle hosts a Fraser crane Day episode
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speaking directly to Fraser's vanity for your sake and the stations to submit to a small tasteful uh
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lowkey public rally a series of mishaps keep Fraser from the rally and he's left
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to dwell on his own sense self I wanted my day I wanted hoopla and
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fuss practically plan the whole thing myself when Frasier eventually gets to the rally via a limo ride or rather
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almost there he postpones a tending because he's met someone who needs help no don't worry about me I got plenty of
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time tell me more about your kids all
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right I'm John by the way I'm Fraser the crumpled sign reflects how hollow
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the fame and fortune are compared to the act of compassion much like the blackout hiding Fraser's wealth this abuan of
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Frasier's Fame reveal that the true value of his character comes from how he helps people Frasier's wealth and radio
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show fueled by his occasionally dubious Psychiatry create a distance between him and the people he wants to help in the
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episode Fraser's Edge this becomes particularly evident after being told he'll be winning a Lifetime Achievement
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Award Frasier has a crisis of confidence and goes to see his old Mentor Dr William tubry played by Renee Ooa I
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suppose if one were looking hard enough one could even say you're coming down here was a desperate quest for approval
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oh well that one's a little out there Dr Tukes reveals to Frasier that
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he has a tendency to keep people at a distance how's your practice I don't
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have a practice I have a radio show distance any children yes I have a
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wonderful son with whom I'm very close you live with with him he lives in Boston distance with your wife my exwife
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yes I know distance wasn't she a psychiatrist yes she was she Happ to be a damn good one too well that's a handy
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choice for someone who'd rather share ideas than emotions have you ever met
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Lilith no well she happens to be a a very warm and loving
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woman although psychoanalysis isn't always the best tool for providing therapy to someone it does make for a
29:59
handy way of dissecting art particularly art that holds it in high regard this episode demonstrates the distance
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Frasier has created in his life but it goes beyond the personal relationships and professional choices he's made it
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goes deep into who he is as a character he lives in a social class that creates distance from the rest of the world he
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works in a profession only available to those with the means to pay for it and when he takes a step towards bringing his expertise to the people it's done in
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a way that keeps those people at a distance as well and somehow through all those distances manages to make real
30:29
connections and give people genuine Comfort class through the mediums of wealth and exclusive medical treatment
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reveals itself to be a barrier to expressions of human compassion Frasier is a likable character not because he
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uses his status to help others but because he can help others in spite of [Music]
Cheers Cameos
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it Frasier simply wouldn't exist without cheers so it made perfect sense for some of those old friends from cheers to stop
30:57
by a few cameos throughout the years Frasier had been moved to Seattle in part to signify that this new show would
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be a departure from cheers and the first season of Frasier deliberately avoided bringing back any other cheers alumni
31:08
the one exception naturally was his ex-wife Lilith and the episode featuring her return titled the show where Lilith
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comes back was the second most watched episode of Frasier ever congratulations Frasier you've done it
31:21
again luckily for us Frasier and Lilith still have that wonderful chemistry I'm
31:27
here for a conven and I happened to hear your voice on the radio I kept hoping you'd introduce Pearl Jam's latest hit
31:33
but much to my chagrin you were doing out worthless little advice pellets from your psychiatric pz
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dispenser Lilith would make guest appearances in each of the show's 11 seasons including a particularly
31:45
memorable episode where she hooks up with Niles let's try to stay calm these things happen they happen every day
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every day in Arkansas Fier son Frederick first played by Luke tarsitano and then Trevor
31:59
Einhorn also made several appearances memorably offering some competition to Niles that's so cute he's got a crush on
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you yes you should have seen him last night I spent the entire evening sitting on daff's lap watching TV
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really what can I do to make you feel better maybe a hug oh come
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here oh there you
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go by the end of the series we see how Fraser and Lilith have grown to have a meaningful friendship together with one
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hand the past moves us forward and with the other it holds us back and Frasier in spite of Frederick
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entering his goth phase in the final season still manages to have a connection with his son Andy ran into a
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friend from her old school uh another boy she talked to me the
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whole night I'm sorry son these things happened and well they
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always think did it ever happen to you Dad it may
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have Frasier in spite of the challenges of living on the other side of the country manages to hold on to the things
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that matter most to him from his time in Boston it's a charmingly uplifting message of course there were some other
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connections from Boston who also had cameos in the season 2 episode the show where Sam shows up Sam alone naturally
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played by Ted Denson makes a surprise appearance in Seattle this episode also provides some interesting bits of trivia
33:29
such as highlighting how much David Hy Pierce looked like a young Kelsey gramar when he first appeared on Cheers wow man
33:35
this is freaky he looks just just like you did when I met you what happened
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huh wasn't exactly a health club you were running there s we also get some plot holes addressed
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such as the truth behind Fraser's father my father wanted me to go into psychology insisted on it at the time I
33:55
hated him for it and he died before I had a chance to realize that he was right and I never
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got to tell him he told me you were dead dad well we had had an argument
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called me a stuffed shirt and hung up on me I was mad you're a cop you told me he was a
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research scientist you were dead what did it matter in the episode the show where
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Diane comes back we get a cameo from Shelley Long reprising her role as Diane Frasier's former fiance there was a very
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brief Diane cameo in season 2 but it was this season 3 episode that really brought her back for a proper cheers
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reunion complete with a Stage production this whole getting left at the altar thing I just don't know what I'm
34:39
supposed to be feeling I may be able to illuminate that
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foil what you are feeling is that this woman has reached into your chest plucked out your heart and thrown it to
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her hell hounds for a chew toy the episode off first Fraser the chance to get some real closure with Diane after
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over a decade of bitterness goodbye
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Diane goodbye
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frasia for I have it in season six Woody harelson once
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again took up the role of Woody Boyd in an episode you'll be shocked to learn was called the show where Woody shows up
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up this episode really seemed to tie a bow on the idea that Frasier was no longer a spin-off and had cemented its
35:33
own identity in case four and a half successful Seasons wasn't enough I've moved on to bigger and better things in
35:38
my life he's still pouring drinks back at the same bar he's been at for the last 15 years don't you think that's kind of sad
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no offense but look at your life you you you live with your dad you hang out with your brother
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you well just the other day I was thinking about your life and all I could
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think was what how lucky you are you see you you
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found where you belong and you've made your home there I guess for some of us it just takes longer than
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others Cheers Cheers the last of the cheers
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reunions is also the only one with an original name cheerful goodbyes this brought back Cliff claven played by John
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ratzenberger Norm Peterson played by George went and car Maria Victoria Angelina Teresa abalonia lupon torelli
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Lebec played by Ria Pearlman of the cheers reunions this one is the most extensive and feels the least natural
36:37
even though it takes place in Boston there's no sign of the original Cheers Bar it also doesn't quite feel the same
36:42
without Sam Woody or Rebecca the interactions between the two casts are interesting but are mostly a novelty the
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presence of a guy who looks suspiciously like cheers director James buroughs who also directed 32 episodes of Frasier
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along with cameos from a number of Cheers regulars makes the whole episode feel like a mesic celebration of the
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series that birthed Frasier it might have made for a good cheers reunion but it being an average episode of Frasier
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speaks even further to how far apart these two shows of Grown the only principal cast member from cheers still
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alive to not appear on Fraser at all was chrisy Ali it's been reported that the reason why was because Ally a practicing
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Scientologist didn't approve of a show about Psychiatry when asked in an interview about why Ally hadn't appeared
37:21
on the show co-creator David Lee said I don't recall asking [Music]
Martin
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the original premise for Frasier was the building of a relationship between Frasier and his father Martin my brother and I a lot more like my mother you know
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if it wasn't biologically impossible I'd swear that Dad was dropped in a basket on our doorstep many of the early
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episodes of the series include moments where Frasier and Martin make an effort to connect and it's a bit of a struggle for them so how about those Seahawks no
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Sports all right no Opera agreed Martin is the voice of reason
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when it comes to making things work look you want us to forge some great fatherson relationships to make some
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connection well that kind of thing takes a couple of years not a couple of days doesn't it you're the
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shrink couple of years huh it'll go by before you know it either that or it'll seem like
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eternity importantly Martin's not just being roped into a pet project of frasers to mend their relationship he
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wants to reconnect as well and rather than through Frasier's exercises growing closer comes about just by them being
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together more often creating new opportunities to learn about one another it seems like a tall order with Martin
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being so unlike his sons but Kelsey Grammar summed up the dynamic nicely saying people always ask how Frasier and
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Niles came from a father like Martin Martin's in public service into knowing what's right and wrong that's exactly
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what his sons were on the simplest level he was a good man and their Hope was to become the same thing one sweet example
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is in the episode Martin does it his way where the crane men Bond while trying to piece together a song Martin and written
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decades previously he was hoping to send to Frank Sinatra she's such a groovy
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lady she makes my heart godey she is the chck I SP my night
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dreaming while many of the bonding moments were like this the series also didn't shy away from other types of
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bonding in Beloved Infidel a secret is revealed about Martin and an old family friend look don't bother calling an
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Vivian you want to know the truth fine
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I had an affair it happened a long time ago and it's not anything I'm proud of but
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eventually Frasier finds out the truth Frasier your mother was a good person so
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was my husband they made a mistake and the two have something to connect over I never
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told you this but um Lilith did the same thing to me Lilith had an affair it's
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the most painful and humiliating experience of my entire life well I'm sure you felt the same way well
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I hadn't thought about it for quite some time but thanks for reminding me look son do me a
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favor don't hate your mother for
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this I wasn't the easiest person to live with back then and she had plenty of reason for doing what she
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did luckily we were able to put it behind us but I'll tell you there were times when it really tore
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me up I loved your
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mother so did I ever since you moved in here we've been trying to find something we have in common and I I think we
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finally found it yeah wish it was a birthmark so do
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I the idea of bonding over trauma is a good one and the family connection makes it even stronger helping Forge this
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connection Martin and Frasier were hoping for and by the fourth season we started to see this father son relationship take real shape in our
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father whose art ain't Heaven Frasier refuses a gift from Martin and we see what that just meant to the guy you
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don't like it I'll take it back oh thank god dad thank you that's such a relief you know I was up half the night worried about it and I
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just Dad are you all right well I didn't upset you did
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I my god dad are you crying no no oh my
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God I made my father that all you start and Frasier wasn't the only son
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connecting to Martin D are you
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crying Fraser what H oh my God you're crying too why is everybody
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crying you know how I get when other people cry tell me what happened even the small gestures reveal how the two of
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them have grown closer together mom's a hard act to follow we knew we were meant to be
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together and that was that it's hard to find that out
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there I've been trying for a while you'll get there this all raises
42:13
some interesting questions about the show if by the halfway point the main premise of a father and son reconnecting
42:18
had already reached its conclusion what's to be done with Martin to understand Martin though it's important
42:24
to take a step back and understand who his character is aside from his relationship with Frasier Martin is
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often positioned on the show as the average guy the working class every man most of the audience can relate to
42:35
except Martin isn't really the average blue collar worker he's presented as he's a former cop and that has an impact
42:41
on how he sees the world here's a brief example of his politics how could you support that odious little hose
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head I once heard him say cancer aside tobacco is good for the economy he's going to put more cops on
42:54
the street when Frasier is dealing with a con man in episode fool me once shame on you fool me twice Martin makes his
43:00
feelings about people in general clear this world would be a happier place if everybody had remember two little words
43:06
people stink although we only get vague references to Martin's life before he became a cop his time working for the
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forest has certainly cemented the idea that people are generally bad and need the firm hand of the police to keep them
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in check throughout the series Martin is softened quite a bit becoming more werse in the Finer Things in life thanks to
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his time with Frasier and becoming a Kinder gentler person as a result of having a stronger home life and connection with his sons but his
43:28
attitudes towards people more broadly doesn't change too much he can't share Frasier's optimism that people are
43:34
generally good and when he's given the opportunity to offer some forgiveness of his own he can't bring himself to do it
43:39
in the season 8 episode a day in May Martin attends the parole hearing of the guy who shot him even after speaking
43:45
with the man's mother Martin can't bring himself to make a statement in favor of his release the victim is here Mr Crane
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would you like to make a statement
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I have nothing to say Martin doesn't have to forgive the guy who shot him but his rigidness here represents a side of
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him that he carries throughout the series this skepticism towards the idea that people can change for the better
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which is ironic concerning his own change throughout the series such as finally mustering the courage to tell his sons that he loves them a frasure
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rure I Love You
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Niles I love you Martin's struggle to connect with his sons and his cynicism towards Society present a man who is
44:48
trapped in certain confining elements of masculinity we see Martin get angry when Eddie is playing with a doll or his deep
44:54
discomfort when Frasier wants to talk about his concerns that he may be gay Martin has a very fixed idea of what it
44:59
means to be a man in the world and it's what makes him miserable it may also be part of the reason he chose to become a
45:04
police officer a job that reflects masculinity that drenched him in cynicism Martin is both a victim and a
45:10
critique of the times he lived in and sometimes the show goes out of its way to present that to us here's Martino
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pining on women getting pregnant out of wedlock things have sure changed since my day back then if a girl got in
45:21
trouble her family just ship her off to relatives in another state and if anybody asked this lied and you went to
45:27
Europe then once you came back they'd raised the baby as a little sister not like today we had morals and
45:34
values back then in later seasons of the series Martin began something close to a Redemption Arc In The Return of Martin
45:42
crane we see Martin leave his early retirement to rejoin the Working World as a security guard although not exactly
45:48
quite the high stakes job of his younger days it does let him reclaim part of his life by feeling like he's part of society it's not as though he's in dire
45:55
need of assistance with him being quite happy living with Frasier but Martin needs something to feel like he isn't just slipping into the back pocket of
46:01
someone else's life and adorably part of Martin reasserted himself often involves treating his sons like kids I'm going to
46:08
work now I'll be home late don't wait
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up this happened throughout the series and was one of the few ways Martin would assert control over his life Martin's
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dating life was the subject throughout the series while he had had some success with women it wasn't until the show's
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final season that he met Ronnie Lawrence played by Wendy Malik a former babysitter of Fraser and Niles how are
46:31
you Mr Craig it's Marty and I'm just great you haven't changed a bit oh yes I
46:37
have I can legally drink now it's a bit strange considering the
46:42
dynamic they used to have though it has been over 30 years since Ronnie was a teenage babysitter working for the cranes even so Martin still feels a bit
46:50
insecure she's young she's got all these guys after her and I'm lucky she even
46:55
gave me a Second Glance I don't want to blow it by looking like some desperate old guy with no options it's not
47:02
desperate to tell somebody how you feel about them what if she doesn't feel the same way but if she does and you never
47:07
find out Martin eventually tells Ronnie how strongly he feels about her and the two grow closer throughout the final season at the beginning of the series
47:14
Martin is a crotchety old man with a funny dog who lives alone with no real connections aside from his old buddies on the police force by the end he's
47:21
reconnected with his sons found new family in Daphne and Ros managed to find his first lasting relationships since
47:27
his wife passed away a new Purpose with a new job and he still has that funny dog Martin wasn't quite the Everyman
47:32
because it's difficult to believe that the average man lives a life quite as tragic as his had been in that first
47:37
episode and one drenched in so much cynicism and bitterness towards the World At Large but by making him the
47:43
every man and highlighting his journey it reveals that life can still change even in old age in some of the most dire
47:48
of circumstances that you can discover a new reason to wake up every morning Martin still carries the baggage of a
47:54
cynical cop who's been shaped into someone suspicious of the world around him but by learning to find the good in his life from family and new friends
48:00
he's at least found some kind of Happiness Frasier writer Joe Keenan explains this saying Martin could have
48:07
stepped out of an Arthur Miller play the guy's lost everything he's loved his wife job Independence he has nothing
48:13
left but his dog chair and two sons he feels looked down on him watching him warm up to them gave the show its sweetest most hopeful long-term Arc and
48:20
the episode Freudian sleep the cast of the show minus Ros have a series of bizarre nightmares while staying at a
48:26
house in the mountain when we peer into Martin's dreams though they take a different
48:31
[Music]
Eddie
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tone of all the sections this one was a bit of a struggle as Eddie is the character steeped in the most scandalous
48:48
of controversies I should acknowledge first one of the big ones that he has had a longstanding feud with a certain
48:54
type of bird is this vicious blue J on the terrrace who keeps teasing him then Eddie goes chasing after him and slams
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into that glass door and this bird just struts around big as you please laughing that snoody bird
49:06
laugh snoody bird laugh yeah like that I'd like to remind
49:13
my audience that we aren't hearing the bird side of the story for this incident so please don't rush to Judgment of this
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particular blue jay behind the scenes there was also ongoing drama between the dogs who played Eddie moose and his son
49:24
Enzo co-creator Peter Casey explains moose Mo and Enzo hated each other they couldn't be on the set together
49:29
apparently it was one of those classic parent child Hollywood rivalries even with all this controversy swirling about
49:35
there were a number of wonderful Eddy moments much of this should be credited to his trainer mati de Kagney she even
49:41
got a nod in one of the episodes the finest jilda ever sung was by the great
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Matilda dag it's difficult to analyze the majesty and depth of the Eddie character so I won't go into too much
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more detail aside from the fact that throughout the series he was questionably and unwaveringly a very
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good boy there were also the revelations in his groundbreaking biography the details of which can be safely passed
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over in this video you can SE this book out if you're curious to learn more about this [Music]
Farce in Frasier
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pup one of the signature styles of Frasier was its use of farce these comedies of erors revolved around a
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misunderstanding or misunderstandings spiraling out of control an early example is the episode The Matchmaker
50:27
where Fraser's new boss thinks he's gay that's a hell of a view it's even better from the
50:37
bedroom why don't we just start with a drink another would be the inke keepers
50:43
where Frasier and Niles open a restaurant together n how are those heels coming I'm just triing them now oh
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no take them out of the tank not till I'm sure they're dead oh for heaven's sakes
51:01
or the much beloved ham radio where Frasier stages a radio play the grizzly business Miss thik I can't believe my
51:09
girl could be a mob M but the most fondly remembered of
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these episodes so much so that it's the favorite of many fans is the ski lodge
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after Ros wins a freeze trip to a ski lodge Frasier convinced cers to sell it to him so he takes Niles Martin Daffney
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and Daphne's friend Annie played by Cynthia L monang to enjoy a ski trip complete with ski in trctor ghee played
51:32
by James Patrick Stewart this episode featured an elaborate Ski Lodge set one
51:37
of only two that was so big it was built in front of the main set of Fraser's apartment the basic idea of this episode
51:42
is that everyone aside from Martin is attracted to another person in that Ski Lodge only no one seems to know who is
51:49
into who Frasier is into Annie Annie is into Niles Niles is of course into Daphne Daphne is into gee and GE is into
51:56
n some misunderstandings lead to a few memorable
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moments Freer I'm sorry wrong
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room ke you're not a crane I want you're not even the sex I
52:18
want all the lust coursing through this lodge
52:24
tonight all the hormones virtually ricocheting off the
52:30
walls and no one what's chasing me it's all absurdly
52:39
convoluted yet somehow still manages to work the writer for the episode David Lee explains why this episode worked so
52:45
well the motivations always have to be absolutely real it helps if they come from the heart they can also come from
52:51
lower on the anatomy which they often do but what really gets the audience engaged is when they care about the
52:56
characters in this case it was Niles's feelings that you cared
Niles and Daphne
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about Niles and Daphne are probably the most important relationship in the series being the only long running story
53:08
arc that lasts throughout the whole show and one that was featured in its most watched episode Niles and Daphne first
53:14
meet in the third episode of the series dinner at 8 although Daphne happily acknowledges him Niles's reaction is a
53:20
bit more extreme you're Dean why yes I am when Fraser told me he' hired an
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English woman I pictured someone a little more not quite so you're
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Dean the complication here is that Niles is very much a married man to the Unseen
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Maris which doesn't stop him from making certain overtures hi ho DNE you're looking luminous this
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evening well thank you Dr crane what's in the bag uh just a little treat I
53:50
picked up for Dad some deure clotted cream Poor Dad and love Devon clotted
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cream isn't that lucky you two can share it the Niles and Daffney relationship would continue like this in the early seasons of the show though at first it
54:04
wasn't supposed to happen at all in interviews David Hy Pierce would tell the story of how while doing press for
54:09
the show before production began Jane leaves would mention the idea that perhaps staf and Niles should get together this manifested on the writing
54:15
side in its own way writer producer and flet gordano explains an encounter with sirious producer Christopher Lloyd early
54:21
in the first season Niles comes to the apartment Chris realizing that Niles would be meeting dfy for the first time
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said what if he had a crazy crush on her and it was here this multi-year Crush began with many delightful
54:33
misunderstandings this is one of me psychic headaches there's some kind of negative Force out there I only get
54:41
these when there's a clawing at the cosmic Continuum perhaps if someone rubbed your
54:47
temples my goodness Dr crane shouldn't you be out there mixing oh don't mind me
54:52
I'm just getting some ice lovely party crane is always dropping by and bringing me little gifts
54:58
and he's not after
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anything although Charming in their execution there's something a bit strange about a married man drilling over his father's physical therapist
55:10
although it might make Niles appear like a brute to his wife David Hyde Pierce performed the character in a way that
55:15
made his love for Maris clear writer Joe Keenan explains no matter how ludicrous our descriptions got David made Niles's
55:22
feelings about the marriage very real he knew that if Niles didn't love Maris there'd be no reason for us to Care when she divorced him or for Niles to feel
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conflicted and hide his love for Daphne that can be seen in episodes such as una Affair To Forget Where Niles confronts
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maris's fening instructor gunar over an affair Nile suspects gunar is having with Maris luckily for Niles he finds
55:41
out Maris has remained faithful oh but she refused him
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really the early flirtations between Niles and Daphne with the Spectre of Maris around them in spite of that
55:58
barrier to them being together there's still an obvious chemistry between them in the first Seasons a midwinter Night
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Dream a storm traps Daffy at nil's Mansion while Maris is in Arizona well it's not that bad a
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storm oh Maris I really think you should come
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home no no well of course I don't want you traveling if it's if it's not safe as Comforts Daphne after a recent
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breakup things get
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[Music] heated Dr creane your glocken Spiel is
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sprung to
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life oh the clock Maris
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you really love her don't you you know I
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do love is a funny thing isn't it sometimes it's exciting and passionate
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and sometimes it's something else something comfortable and familiar
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David Hy Pierce describes Niles's attraction to Daphney saying I think she's just an exotic flower to him and
57:20
she's so beautiful and it's so unusual for him to be treated by a woman with such friendliness that he's overwhelmed
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by that openess because Maris is so manipulative and difficult Niles and maris's marriage over the years
57:30
deteriorates leading to separation and then eventually divorce it never sounded particularly happy but whatever it was
57:37
was enough for Niles that is until the arrival of Daphne which introduced something new and different to him at
57:43
first it could simply be the echo of a wealthy man L seen after a woman of a lower class A Very Old Trope and seen in
57:49
classic works of literature such as Pamela class has a very strange place in this relationship though as we never see
57:55
Niles consider Daphne beneath him rather he just seems her as different and enticing the timing of Niles and maris's
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divorce a few years after the arrival of Daphne does suggest that the idea of something more may have fueled its end
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at some level but the series never makes That explicit the closest sign we get is when during his separation Niles takes
58:14
Daphne to a ball in the episode Moon dance what started off as an evening to show Niles's friends he wasn't sulking
58:19
over Maris become something more than that let it out Niles let everything out
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oh Dy I adore [Music]
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you I adore you too
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what Niles is on the cusp of getting swept away with Daphne until he learns the truth I knew you were a good dancer
58:49
but I had no idea you were such a good actor
58:54
actor DNE you're a goddess daffne I adore you we fooled everyone didn't we
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oh oh we certainly did didn't we a crucial
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part of this episode is that Niles brought Daphne to impress his snoody high society friends the idea that Niles
59:14
would show up with someone of a lower class to impress a bunch of snobs doesn't really make sense though it does reveal that when it comes to Daphne n
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sees her for more than who she is in her social standing her being a beautiful woman I'm sure helps as well although
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Niles clearly has romantic feelings for Daphne part of what keeps it from getting too creepy is that ultimately he
59:32
cares about her as a person he may want to be with her but he also wants her to be happy before his divorce with Maris
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we see this in the episode Kisses Sweeter than Wine Niles reluctantly helps stafne connect with his handyman
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Joe thanks staff oh I got a spark me too that's just
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static electricity from the carpet can happen to anyone if you had ever smelled her hair
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you'd know she's worth at least one more try Joe told me what you did I think that's the nicest thing
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anyone's ever done for me thank you oh did you feel that we made a spark
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oh yes we did I guess you were right it is just the carpet next season when
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Daphne breaks up with Joe for good the separated Niles and daffany have a nice talk I would have said is this seat
1:00:22
taken and you would have said no and you would have said my name is Daphne and I
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would have said my name is Niles and then I would have
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said what are you doing for the rest of your life you always know just the right
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thing to say oh I love you Dr
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crane I love you too Deanie unrequited love is one of the oldest tropes in English literature it
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can be traced back to the medieval concept of courtly love which would often entail a man's desire for an unavailable woman although when it comes
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to women of a lower class whether or not she's unavailable never quite enters into the equation in this instance it
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actually subverts that expectation Niles doesn't see Daphne as a lower class woman he can take advantage of but as an
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equal or someone even greater than himself it's a bit strange to square the idea that Daphne who clearly understands
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and cares for Niles as a friend is still somehow oblivious to his attraction towards her Jane leaves explains why
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from her own perspective you know I've always played that she knows somewhere in the back of it head but it's too scary to deal with cuz he's Niles and
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he's you know Posh and and he had Maris and money and you know what's he doing going for a Girl Like DNE this old Trope
1:01:36
of pining for an oblivious woman can create many great episodes and moments as the series so easily demonstrates but
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it does also carry with it a more pernicious element and that's the objectification of Daphne by objectification I don't mean in the more
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commonly understood sense of highlighted a woman's physical form over her character Daphne wasn't really
1:01:53
objectified in that way at least not that often what I mean is all those delightful moments where Nile SPS over
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an oblivious dhany are effectively removing her from the scene as a full character let me show you it's all in
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the tongue that's right just purse your lips and Puck her up like a little goldfish I'll it just like that very
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good you got
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it NES what are you doing I'm learning how to blow
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smoke where when Niles and Daphne have one of these cute little moments there are two conversations happening the
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obvious one in which Daphne is showing Niles how to blow a smoke ring and the subtextual one of Niles getting turned
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on by Daphne in many of these moments these scenes don't just include Daphne and Niles but also have Frasier Martin
1:02:44
present to underscore what's going on it isn't just Niles drifting off into a world of fantasy it's a secret
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conversation happening between the crane men even a conversation that's little more than a few weighted Clans es
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looking at the two layers of these moments Niles and the other man operate on both while daap only operates on one
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in that second later she is present but not as an active participant but rather an unthinking element to be played
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against like a prop or an object the show itself acknowledges this dynamic in the episode perspectives on Christmas
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where each of the characters describe a disastrous Christmas from their own points of view here's how Martin observed one of those moments afternoon
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all hello D oh that's awfully dangerous Daphne standing there under that
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mistletoe enough eggnog and here's how that same moment played out from Daphne's perspective
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afternoon all hello d d That's awfully dangerous Daphne standing under that
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mistletoe a piece could fall into your eye let me fres your drink and the show
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certainly doesn't shy away from making fun of her with moments like this you know it's always so obvious when a man
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likes a woman you can just tell by his awkward body language
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shifting in his chair he doesn't know quite what to do with his hands he's as nervous as a hen oh for
1:04:04
God's sake stop fidgeting in the early Seasons this was a common trend for Daphne unfortunately she was such a
1:04:10
charmingly offbeat character that existed purely as you saw her without much of an interior life even stories
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that focused on her such as her having her boyfriend spend the night at Fraser's apartment with her ended up becoming stories more focused on other
1:04:21
characters in this case Frasier and his anxiety about Daphne having a man over this can be seen in a comment from
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Christopher Lloyd he's describing why Niles and Daphne work as a couple I thought could it be because she's so
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different than he is he's upper class and she's working class she says what's on her mind and he's restrained and
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thoughtful Jane Le did have some say in making daphia more interesting character over the years even filling in some of
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her backstory she explained in an interview dafine was like a pair of comfy shoes she had a sort of earthiness
1:04:49
and honesty that definitely came from me I told the writers that a girl who's comfortable around these men who doesn't take any of their crap must come from
1:04:55
household filled with men in one of the more ironic twists of the series by being actively pursued by Niles instead
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of him just loving her from afar Daphne started to become a more well-rounded character as Niles's divorce with Maris
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starts to get messy he decides to change his legal representation from a high price Law Firm to one of R's
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ex-boyfriends Donnie Douglas played by Saul Ruben and while he offers an immediate reversal of Fortune for nil's
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finances netting him a nice settlement Donnie's presence also has another unexpected consequence who understands
1:05:24
why anything happens I mean it's remarkable how completely one's life can change in an
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instant poor NES it's over the next season and a half things start getting messy with Donnie and Daphne getting
1:05:38
engaged and Nile starting to date Mel played by Jane Adams a plastic surgeon who had worked extensively on Maris you
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must think I'm terribly fussy yes one day though a pulled muscle
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in Fraser's back changes everything what's the matter my back oh it's
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completely seized up while he sit in in on of all places Martin's chair Frasier ruminates about his
1:06:04
life I really do love Daphne a terrified Daphne tries to
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confirm the issue with Martin it's about Dr
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crane I overheard him say he's in love with me what and he wants to show me how much
1:06:22
he loves me while he still has the chance oh jeez not is you knew about this I'm not getting in the middle of
1:06:29
this then it's true look I kept my mouth shut for 6 years I'm not saying anything
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after taking some medication Frasier asks stafanie for a massage which gets pretty awkward but eventually the
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misunderstanding is partially revealed you you see when I said how much I I cared about you I didn't mean it in a
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romantic sense then you don't love me oh no of course I love you Deanie but as a friend
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that's all oh oh oh thank God and everything is fine until the
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meds Fraser Tu start to kick in when I said to your father Dr Crane's In Love
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with me he said it's been going on for six years now what did he mean by that
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oh was that he me
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NES what no he's crazy about
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you Fraser doesn't remember spilling the beans and it appears daap has learned the truth with everyone else none the
1:07:30
wiser but Niles is a little more astute than everyone else good evening Dean Dr
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crane you look different somehow have you done something new with your
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hair oh oh that must be it while dating Donnie daffany had gradually been
1:07:50
revealing more of herself we learned more about her life in Manchester and about the things that made her happy but
1:07:55
this is the moment that really made her come to life as a character maybe it's the simple fact that having a secret
1:08:00
reveals an interior life and one that puts her on par with the other characters around her in some ways it
1:08:05
even gives her an edge since they don't know that she knows the truth about Niles's feelings for her we can see that
1:08:10
inversion very clearly in moments where Dy and Niles have their roles reversed in those little moments of subtext you
1:08:16
have to be careful those pen handles get awfully hot well not anymore it's got a protective coating of skin on it
1:08:25
just give it a minute to absorb it'll be
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fine feeling better already thanks
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G hey what's up nothing it's fitting that Niles being an old handed this can
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sense something as a mess I burned my hand while I was cooking and she began putting first aid cream on it in a a
1:08:49
very tender way and then uh dad came in and she jumped as if she felt guilty
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is it possible Daphne has feelings for me [Laughter]
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no oh well as long as you've considered it from all angles things finally reach a boiling point with the season 7 finale
1:09:09
and two-parter Something Borrowed someone blue Daphne's wetty and is fast approaching and she needs to get some
1:09:15
things off her chest it's about your brother you see I know know what I know
1:09:22
about his feelings for me my God how did you find
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out who was the Ning gossip RZ dad you
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what you were taking those pills for your back and you blurted it out while I was giving you a massage oh well they
1:09:41
were very strong pilles here after a while I couldn't put it out of my mind
1:09:46
anymore I found myself thinking about him all the time
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DNE are you saying that you you have feelings for Niles I think I do unfortunately for
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Daphne Niles and Mel have some news of their own we can't keep something like this a secret we got
1:10:09
married did you before the wedding Frasier notices how Niles and Daphne look at one another and he decides to
1:10:16
confront Niles she knows what Daphne knows that you have
1:10:21
feelings for her she's known for some time I knew you thought my marriage to me was Hasty but to poison it like this
1:10:27
I'm not going to listen to this NES defitely feels the same way about you she told me as much the other day
1:10:33
and then she denied it once you got married but I saw the way she was looking at you downstairs just
1:10:39
now oh my God NES I'm not in the habit of breaking up people's marriages but how could I not tell you
1:10:46
you're my brother I love you this gives Niles the courage to finally tell Daphne the truth Daphne I'm glad he told me
1:10:53
because I love you meant what I said when I said I would
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leave her that's crazy no no it's not crazy if you feel the same way I do but
1:11:05
I need you to tell me and I can accept it if the answer is
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no how do you feel about me and minutes later she finally
1:11:16
responds you know a lot of times oh for God sake Dr to CR
1:11:34
I think you can call me Niles now although the episode seemed to end
1:11:40
with Daphney deciding she can't leave Donnie luckily for all of us we still got a happy ending
1:11:47
hello defy I was wondering if you might be free for a
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date my God yes after seven long years of seeing
1:11:59
Niles and Daphne go from Awkward flotation to a romantic Escape it felt as though this story was reaching its
1:12:04
Climax and that was reflected in the ratings as this was the most watched episode of Frasier seen by nearly 34
1:12:10
million people in the United States Christopher Lloyd explains this moment when Niles kisses Daphne for the first
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time it gave me goosebumps I'd live with these characters for so long as did the audience and wanted that moment for them
1:12:22
and David Hy Pierce shares his experience of the moment saying the the live audience's reaction when we kissed showed how completely involved they had
1:12:28
become with these madeup people's lives and how much they wanted them to get together love stories often don't extend
1:12:34
beyond the moment when two people finally get together and we simply expect them to live happily ever after but love isn't so simple in real life
1:12:41
and sometimes the hardest stories to tell aren't about how a couple gets together but rather how that couple
1:12:46
stays together the moment when Daffy and is get together is often cited as where Frasier starts going downhill and while
1:12:52
ratings did begin to decline I would argue the quality was still certainly there only we weren't getting any more
1:12:58
of those moments of hidden desire leading to a comedic misunderstanding we were going to see how this couple dealt with the idea of changing their lives on
1:13:04
the spot for a chance at a love that might only come once in a lifetime sir co-creator David Lee elaborates when n
1:13:10
and dney finally got together there was a certain tension gone that had been sustaining the series in ways we didn't
1:13:16
understand when the eighth season began it picked up right where the finale left off with Niles and Daphne figuring out
1:13:21
how to navigate lives they had just destroyed leaving your fiance on your wedding day and divorcing your wife on the fourth day of marriage does create
1:13:28
some feelings of resentment these obstacles would be dealt with over the next couple of episodes but I want to highlight another important moment would
1:13:34
you like some Sherry uh yes thanks DNE yeah all right I'll get your precious wedge of Brie and your water crackers no
1:13:42
I meant would you like some Sherry oh lome thanks although Daphne had been close
1:13:50
with the cranes it's only now we see her being treated more like family it's also a clear indicator that Fraser sees her
1:13:55
as an equal she effectively marries into a higher class the episode even ends with Martin and Frasier putting together
1:14:01
a special dinner for the new couple the biggest challenge to the Niles and Daphne relationship is how devoid it is
1:14:06
of any real tension that it might end no one can doubt for a second that Niles is hopelessly devoted to her and Daphne
1:14:12
seems to be quite taken with him as well this show plays a little with this idea when the stress of living up to n's
1:14:17
expectations leads Daphney to gain a significant amount of weight behind the scenes this was done to accommodate Jane
1:14:22
leaves' pregnancy but it did raise some interest questions but how two people can date when so much of it is based on a love that was built on years of pining
1:14:30
how can reality ever live up to that when you and I first came together we decided to wait and get to know each
1:14:36
other before bringing the relationship into the bedroom then as time went on you told me all these stories about how
1:14:42
you'd pined for me for seven years how I'd been your unobtainable dream how
1:14:47
could anybody live up to that although Niles takes this Revelation personally and the two have their first fight they
1:14:54
reconcile before the end of the episode and the two managed to stay together for the rest of the series the episodes for
1:14:59
Niles and Daphne that stand out the most are like this one though ones where tension arises and the relationship is
1:15:05
threatened but at this point in the series it's Unthinkable that these two would ever break up and what tension is
1:15:10
created is undercut because of that there's no will they or won't they it's very clear that they will and have in
1:15:17
the same way Niles is utterly committed to Daphne the show is utterly committed to making this relationship work spending years showing how Niles Longs
1:15:24
for her using moment to reveal how good the two of them are together and revealing how much they've always cared for one another although it's certainly
1:15:30
possible to tell interesting stories but how a couple stays together the series haded The added pressure of years of buildup that might have felt like a
1:15:36
cruel tease had Niles and Daffney broken up a year or two after getting together by season 9 in the episode The Proposal
1:15:42
we get exactly that will you marry
1:15:47
me oh Niles of course I will instead of
1:15:53
a big lavish wedding Niles and D end up eloping in Las Vegas he never said you may kiss the
1:15:59
bride you may kiss the
1:16:05
bride the threats to Niles and Daphne are often external to the relationship such as when nil faces a medical
1:16:11
emergency and is rushed to the hospital for an operation there is an anomaly in your EKG I'm going to have to check you
1:16:17
into the hospital oh uh well H uh I guess I can
1:16:22
clear my schedule uh how's uh how's tomorrow afternoon no no no Niles you need to go right
1:16:29
now there's also the return of Maris who re-enters n's life after she accidentally murders her D boyfriend
1:16:35
with a crossbow have just arrested Seattle socialite meis crane for the murder of her lover Argentine polo star
1:16:42
estan Rojo the Niles and Daphne relationship is one that was defined by tension and once that inner tension was
1:16:48
resolved went on to face a series of tensions from outside the relationship always chasing that earlier feeling
1:16:53
although Niles and dafne are lovely together their onscreen Dynamic only occasionally explored that relationship
1:16:59
instead we had exes near-death experiences and murder threatening to tear these two apart although Daphne and
1:17:05
Niles had grown so much to be together their relationship never quite managed to do the same when people say Frasier
1:17:10
changed after Niles and dfan got together they're right and change doesn't have to be a bad thing but when
1:17:15
you go to a show in part for the exciting romantic tension and it's all gone you can't help but feel as though
1:17:22
something has been lost and the new thing might appear if it seems to be an imitation of the old thing there is
1:17:28
something to be said for seeing a happy couple together instead of one in constant conflict it just wasn't as
1:17:35
enthralling as the pursuit it also highlights another way in which class manifests itself in the series Daphne
1:17:41
and Niles on paper shouldn't work he's a rich psychiatrist and she's a kooky physical therapist but it does work in
1:17:47
spite of this class divide and it serves as a reminder that true love is possible when you're willing to ignore the things that don't matter in this case social
1:17:54
class because doing so opens a door to meeting someone who represents a whole new world of possibilities Jane Le
1:18:00
describes it she is the complete opposite of anything he's ever known she's grounded and down to earth and
1:18:06
that's just not the sort of person he's used to she's not out for herself like everybody else she's there to help others and it turns him on to see her
1:18:13
rooting around under the sink and fixing things the only real journey left for them to take together is the one to Parenthood this isn't the ovulation kit
1:18:19
it's the pregnancy test oh silly me they look so much
1:18:27
we're pregnant although this is Daphne's first child in a way this is Nile's the second though the show never did answer
1:18:33
what happened to that little bag of flow oh dear but Eddie that dingo's got
1:18:41
your baby oh God or maybe we do
Representation
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[Music] know Frasier was rightfully lauded as
1:18:53
having a very strong record on depicting gay characters often tackling stereotypes headon David Hy Pierce
1:18:59
explains it was never jokes at the expense of gay people we had gay people on staff David Lee one of the creators
1:19:05
on the show is gay and so to me it was always acknowledging the preposterousness of stereotypes this
1:19:11
Dynamic was well explained in Matt bomb's excellent video Frasier and sitcoms of the gay90s so give it a watch
1:19:16
if you'd like to learn more about that instead I'd like to talk about some other forms of representation on the series NBC's lined up of sitcoms
1:19:22
throughout much of the 9s which pry was a part of on Thursday's nights was overwhelmingly white and this wasn't an
1:19:29
accident one of the executive producers of The Fresh Prince ofir Andy burwitz described what it was like to be
1:19:34
producing one of the few sitcoms for NBC on prime time that had a black cast the knee-jerk response in the network was
1:19:40
maybe we need more cast members on the show they never said white but curiously all the characters they proposed were
1:19:46
white they believed a white audience wouldn't watch a black show this came after programs including The Cosby Show
1:19:52
and The Jeffersons demonstrated the opposite but with cable channels attracting more of that TV audience big
1:19:57
networks such as NBC started trying to appeal more to that white audience the only way they knew how making shows
1:20:02
predominantly featuring white people none of this is to say that Frasier was a show built specifically to appeal to
1:20:08
white people but it's certainly a fact that its makeup was a perfect fit for NBC reflected in as simple a change as
1:20:14
suggesting the Latina housekeeper on the show's original pitch instead be an englishwoman Frasier had a strange
1:20:20
relationship with race in that it says very little about it and the one time it does we get the episode something about
1:20:27
Dr Mary in this episode Frasier's temporary replacement for Ros Mary played by Kim Kohl's starts getting too
1:20:33
comfortable participating in the show and Fraser feels too awkward to tell her to ease up a little I know why you
1:20:38
didn't say anything cuz she's black oh that's ridiculous dad race has nothing to do with it oh come now Frasier can't
1:20:45
deny a certain measure of guilt living as you do in your exclusive Lily white World interestingly enough in this
1:20:52
season 7 episode the first one to ever never mentioned race we get this line you know fras such a thing as being too
1:20:58
sensitive about this stuff a scene with three white men talking about how perhaps white people are being too
1:21:04
sensitive about racial issues is a very '90s moment we also have Frasier acting out a paranoid white guy fantasy of what
1:21:10
it's like to disagree with a black woman so you want me to stay in my place Mass
1:21:20
her she's not going to say m what am I getting too upy for you you Sherry willing Opera loving Armon wearing
1:21:27
elitist you have no idea how difficult it is for a black woman in a white man's
1:21:36
world Frasier I don't think so eventually Frasier comes clean and
1:21:41
confesses the truth to Mary who of course takes it all in stride why didn't you just say something
1:21:48
before well it's because you're black and
1:21:55
the truth is I I was afraid that if I if I said something critical of you you you might react the wrong way
1:22:02
and I feel just terrible about it all ends well as Mary's interjections made her so popular she's offered her own
1:22:08
show a show with a white cast talking about race isn't impossible to do well a few years prior Roseanne did a masterful
1:22:15
job with white men can't kiss Frasier is a sad reminder though that these topics can be clumsily handled in the hands of
1:22:21
a creative team completely divorced from the experiences they're speaking to though it does reflect quite nicely the
1:22:26
misplaced anxieties certain white people might feel when discussing race the show did fa slightly better over the years
1:22:32
introducing the less stereotypical character of Cam Winston and having his mother Kora have a brief relationship
1:22:37
with Martin but these are characters for whom race is incidental and they neatly fit into Frasier's upper class World
1:22:43
another uncomfortable blind spot is the character of Maris which only makes sense because we never see her the show
1:22:49
goes out of its way to describe how odd she is being an ays who is constantly engaging in surgeries and beauty
1:22:54
treatments to keep herself looking young and beautiful in the episode to thine old self be true we find out Maris has
1:23:01
been struggling with an eating disorder Maris was always chubby as a child her whole life she's been obsessed with
1:23:06
keeping weight off the episode includes much discussion about how Maris has gained so much weight that she's gone from dangerously thin to Dangerously
1:23:13
overweight in both cases it's played for a laugh something must have snapped but literally when she saw me she swallowed
1:23:19
and her necklace exploded from the pressure not being able to see Maris has always made it easy to create this
1:23:25
bizarre entity to drive comedy but if we could see her in this moment eating away her misery that Niles has moved on
1:23:31
without her I imagine we'd probably feel more pity than anything else it puts in Stark relief all the other times Maris
1:23:37
was described as being too light to leave footprints in the snow or her weight being so small in her youth that Frasier is amazed she was even alive a
1:23:44
person that small and frail probably wouldn't be nearly as funny if you saw her in the flesh and you could see what
1:23:49
her eating disorder is doing to her this along with Frasier's record on Race underscores one of the the sad truths
1:23:55
about the series it's a show about white men that struggles to see anything outside that perspective and by not
1:24:00
acknowledging those other perspectives makes hay out of struggles that feel like laughing down what keeps these
1:24:05
episodes from getting too uncomfortable is how class acts as something of a barrier to disguise what's happening in
1:24:11
something about Dr Mary it can be argued that the comedy comes from Frasier's lack of perspective outside of his upper
1:24:16
class world even if the Mary character reads like a stereotype in the case of Maris her obscene wealth makes her far
1:24:22
less empathetic a character even though her disorder is incredibly tragic in both cases it's the status of the
1:24:28
characters that informs the audience that it's okay to laugh at what's happening it's another way in which class is a barrier to feeling empathy
Roz
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something core to the character or Frasier I'm certainly not saying we shouldn't laugh at the rich imp powerful
1:24:41
in fact i' say we should ER on the side of laughing at them more but it is worth considering why we're laughing whether
1:24:47
it's for the silly excesses of the wealthy or the problems that impact people across class lines
1:24:53
[Music]
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Ros Doyle is a tough character to pin down particularly in the beginning of the series Frasier needed someone to
1:25:04
interact with as part of his radio show but only a few small details about the character really existed when Perry
1:25:09
Gilpin got the role she was told by the creative team that they weren't really sure who Ros was as a character leaving
1:25:14
her wide open to the actress's interpretation guilpin once said in an interview I imagined Ros constantly
1:25:20
trying to live up to a forceful mother actually based a lot of her on a really good friend of mine she's super smart
1:25:25
self- dependent sexually adventurous and honest about it although this might have let her devolve into a cliche she
1:25:31
managed to be a sexually active career woman without becoming a negative stereotype in the episode raw in the
1:25:36
doghouse we see Bulldog the Perpetual sexual harasser at the station appeal to Ros for her producing talents I did not
1:25:43
sleep with bulldog he didn't even hit on me I did want something though wanted me
1:25:49
to leave you and come be his new producer well I wonder why he said that
1:25:56
eventually we find out Frasier's suspicions to be true and Ros is quick to stand up to Bulldog get out I ask you
1:26:02
here to work you disgusting horor hey hey hey you're going to have to slow down I'm getting some mixed signals here
1:26:09
the lesson almost learned here was for Frasier to respect the talent of his producer as we did see how talented Ros
1:26:15
was in helping improve Bulldog show but it's undercut by the reality that in spite of her skills Ros was still
1:26:20
reduced to her sexual appeal by both of her bosses this is something of a running theme for the character in the early seasons and while it puts her on
1:26:27
par with Frasier and Niles who often end up being humiliated by people who know better it hits a bit different when it's
1:26:32
someone who doesn't have the same degree of power or status of all the characters on the show it's Ros who is the most
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detached from the rest of the cast much like Daphne in the earlier Seasons Ros isn't highlighted the way many of the
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crane men are sometimes reduced to only having one or two scenes in an episode unlike Daphne she doesn't get the same
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opportunity of character growth when she becomes involved with Niles often leaving RW as the odd one out the most
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meaningful connection RZ has to the rest of the cast is her friendship with Frasier although this does get teased as them being more than friends multiple
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times you know maybe if we both went into it with our eyes
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open what am I say crazy aside from one night where they hook up the two of them
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never come close to anything romantic the relationship simply works best with them being friends the friendship
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between Ros and Frasier is a bit different not just because of the class divide but because Frasier is ros' boss
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it leads to some strange moments such as the episode Ros alone where Fraser loans Ross of money and then becomes very
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judgmental when he sees how she spends it I don't want to talk to her about it I have to for God sake the rate she's
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spending she's going to be out of money before we're back to work you know and frankly I'm just a little bit annoyed with the way she keeps flaunting it in
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my face expensive lunches needless extravagances frankly I think the entire
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thing's just a bit insensitive don't you dafhne is luckily there to point out how Frasier's loan of $1,500 contrasts his
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usual spending habits are the cigars Cuban are the Tulips Dutch oh good news
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my personal shopper just found a dozen antique pudding plates who has 12 people over for
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pudding so you gave poor Ros a bit of money it hasn't changed your life has it
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you Sherry swilling fagra munching hypocrite it's also worth mentioning that RW being on Hard Times is because
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Frasier got her and and everyone else at kacl fired when he made a stand against the station manager Frasier eventually
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confronts Ros butter spending habits excuse me but weren't you the one that said I could spend it any way I wanted
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well I just thought you were going to be a little more responsible than that oh so now I'm irresponsible no no I'm just
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even their reconciliation is kind of weird as Roos is forced to listen to Fraser's apology because she's his
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producer and he's doing it on the air it's not an exaggeration to say I put my career in this woman's hands every day
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and never lets me down on to the show if I'm a bit Rusty I
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hope you'll forgive me after all to ER is
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human I hope you'll look into your hearts all right Fraser you're forgiven oh good these power dynamics come up
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several times throughout the series Frasier and Ros are absolutely friends but they aren't quite on the same level
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the tension in this relationship always seems to come from the fact that Frasier has power over rod and reveals the
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Perils of friendships within hierarchies it's not as simple as saying no one can ever be friends with their boss that's
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obviously not true rather what the series suggests is that this Dynamic presents a barrier or obstacle in that
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friendship in season 9 Ros meets Roger a man who would be one of her longest romantic Partners on the show there are
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some Echoes of class in that relationship as Roger is a garbage man something that at first embarrasses Ros
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but over time she learns to accept it by the end of the season sadly they've broken up although Frasier tries to
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reach out to her she and she's fine we broke up oh Ross I'm so sorry we just
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talked about some problems we've been having and decided you know we'd be better off apart when did this happen
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last week last week I didn't tell you because I didn't want to have a long conversation the rest of this episode
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titled Frasier has Spokane focuses on Frasier's expanding to the Spokane Market and him struggling to be accepted
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by the listeners there Ros is enlisted to help out posing as a caller looking for help I had some
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somebody a guy I really liked and then we broke
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up God Fraser I miss him so
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much love is always a risk but you have to take
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it the pain you're feeling now will pass in time and you you'll find yourself
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ready to take that risk again yeah
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thanks you're
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welcome Frasier and Ros have a very real connection and it reveals the workplace friendships are just as valid as any
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other working together was never the problem for Frasier and RZ RZ having to answer to Frasier as her boss was what
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introduced a power Dynamic that undercut what is otherwise a very meaningful friendship this is a reflection of what
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I was saying earlier about Frasier and how class creates barriers between him and the people he cares about RZ is
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clearly no exception and while it does provide an interesting reading for her character it does frame The Frasier and fro friendship as less about her story
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and more about his there was one story line for Ros that was all her own and that was the birth of her daughter Alice
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the birth of Alice was not planned by RZ or even the show's producers Christopher Lloyd in an interview said it was the
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network idea it's one of those things because because they like doing event shows and so in the season 5 episode
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Halloween we find out Ros is expecting and as is tradition for the show it's revealed in the most embarrassing way
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possible if anybody's going to propose to Raz is Frasier what how could you do that get her pregnant it was Frasier
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listen everybody I am not the father of R's baby fact we don't even know for
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sure if there is a baby we do now the father is a young Barista
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working at Cafe nervosa who RZ encourages to go live his life as she intends to raise the baby on her own I
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hope that you can understand why I can't possibly marry you when I get married
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it's going to be to someone I love and someone who loves me and someone who can legally drink
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champagne at my wedding
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okay I understand although Ros doesn't think this is going to be as easy to handle as she lets
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on I can't take this damn it I let this
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happen are we still talking about the milk don't you see milk is a staple I
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let a staple go bad good Mothers don't let Staples go bad how can I be responsible for a child when I can't
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even keep fresh milk in the house kids need milk I have to know everything you could
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know half of everything you could know about the milk and Lilith could know about the booties and the snugglies you never met Lilith did you
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what seemed to be the beginning of raza's character moving in a New Direction never quite gets off the ground as even the delivery of the baby
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is almost smuggled into an episode about Frasier and Niles competing over the same woman at a party what is wrong with
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me why can't I find a single woman who's interested in me those are two different questions really so we should just sit
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down and talk them both over oh wait I can't because I'm in lior still we do get a cute moment with
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baby Alice oh look at her oh she's beautiful
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mleo it's a long story and that was about it on the odd occasion we would see Alice appear in an episode or Ros
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would make a reference to having to stay home because she couldn't find a babysitter but otherwise we don't get too much of a change in ros' life aside
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from maybe her dating habit slowing down a bit one interesting bit of trivia about Ros Doyle is that she gets her name from one of the producers on wngs
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the show David Angel Peter Casey and David Lee created before Frasier the real life Ros Doyle passed away in 1991
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from breast cancer towards the end of the series we see some development in sight for Ros as she's offered a job as
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station manager at a rival radio station I must say i' I've got sort of mixed feelings about this I mean I couldn't be
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happy they finally getting the recognition you deserve but I'm going to miss you well let's wait till there's a
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real offer before we break out the kleenex and champagne Roz being so capable gets the job I got the job
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congratulations Ross I'm so proud of you now can I tell you how much I'm going to miss you this Tarter strange Dynamic
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where Ros inserts herself into Frasier's new relationship with cooworker Julia played by Felicity Huffman though
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ultimately none of this goes anywhere Frasier breaks things off with Julia and Ros exits the new job to go back to her
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old one at kacl while a bit of an odd part of the show it does revealed to us that Ros aspires to be something more
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than a producer for Frasier show and that's something we learn a little more about in the finale of the
The Finale
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[Music] series one major part of the series I haven't really touched on is Frasier's
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long-standing problems with dating throughout the over 250 episodes of the show we see Frasier go on countless
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dates struggling to find happiness with women that are a bad fit for him a great fit for him and ones who don't stick
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around long enough for us to find out Fraser struggle to find a relationship is one of the core conflicts of the series season 9 opens with the
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two-parter dawn Juan In Hell where Frasier Dives deep into his own mind to figure out what he wants Imagining the
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many women who he's had relationships with I have carried you with me throughout every relationship on every
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date you'll pick apart the women I care about and you remind me how much it'll hurt if I open myself
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up you don't help me you hold me back how will I ever move forward if I don't
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put you behind me although this two-parter led Frasier to a place of emotional strength ready to enter into a
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meaningful relationship it would be two more seasons until he found the last of the women he would earnestly pursue on the series Charlotte played by Laura
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Linny we only meet Charlotte seven episodes before the series finale but Linny spoke about the experience of joining the cast so late in its run I
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was a Frasier fan for so long I think Charlotte's a good-hearted fumbling person trying her best but things weren't working and she was beginning to
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lose hard a little bit in aing turn Charlotte met Frasier while trying to help him make a meaningful connection as
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a Matchmaker after setting up a series of disastrous stes Frasier realizes he's attracted to Charlotte Fraser Charlotte
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hi I good to see you uh I'd like you to meet uh R yeah after some brief
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maneuvering around Charlotte's less than ideal boyfriend Frank played by Aaron eart Frasier manages to get closer to
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Charlotte until finding out something crucial I'm moving back to Chicago in 3 weeks 3 weeks it's not you I bought my
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old business back from my ex I I know I should have told you sooner but it was
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never the right time Frasier and Charlotte decide to spend the last 3 weeks she has together and that time is
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drawing to a close in the final episode two-parter good night Seattle as the episodes begins we can see the cast all
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reaching pivotal turning points in their lives Martin and Ronnie having gotten engaged a few episodes earlier are
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planning their wedding a very pregnant Daphne could give birth at any moment and unbeknownst to Ros she has an
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exciting career opportunity ahead of her and Frasier is preparing to say goodbye to Charlotte the episode opens with
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Frasier on a plane recounting the strange turn of events that got him aboard that flight and it began with Frasier's agent BB letting Fraser know
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he has an exciting new job offer good news I'm busting you out of this hell hole what did you ever hear of Dr Mark
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reesman the San Francisco radio psychiatrist yes we had a a nice encounter once at a conference well last
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week he had a not so nice encounter with a falling air conditioner anyway they want you to
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replace him and the money's huge as Frasier weighs his options he has to say goodbye to Charlotte as she leaves for
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Chicago at Martin and Ronnie's wedding disaster hits when Eddie the ring bearer
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eats the wedding ring the ring I dropped it when that Cannon was and
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know just DF and N stiti to the vet and then her water breaks they are a handful
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my brothers I could just imagine the hell they're raising back there with an open
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bar oh my God my water just broke the baby's coming because I said open
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bar and just like that she has a brand new baby boy he's named David which is
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possibly a tribute to siries co-creator David Angel who had passed away with his wife a few years prior Martin and Ronnie
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arrive and get married at the vet's office and for good measure it's also Eddie's Birthday it only Loosely enters
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into the plot but I felt like it needed to be mentioned after the wedding Martin and Ronnie plan on moving in together and with Daphne already moved in with
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Niles it leaves Frasier finally alone in his apartment as he poses for a meme we see the end of an era as Martin's chair
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is moved out of the apartment been waiting long 11 years
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uh be careful with it in a cute not to the first episode the same actor who moved in Martin's
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chair is also the one who takes it away with Martin moved out and Daffy and Niles now busy with their new son a
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lonely Frasier decides to take that job in San Francisco Listen about that San Francisco
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job I think I'll take it Roos is also moving on as she's promoted to station
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Manor at kacl who's the Jack booted Tyrant whose Fanny I'll be kissing till God knows
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when me joyful news your majesty everyone gathers in Fraser's
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apartment to say goodbye before he moves to San Francisco you're really leaving what will I ever do without
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you you're the sweetest most wonderful it's okay RZ he's not going till next week let her talk to
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that Martin's goodbye is particularly sweet hearkening back to the first episode as he finally thanks Frasier
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just once would it have killed you to say thank you one lousy thank
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you thank you Fraser for well you
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know and Niles simply as Niles coffee tomorrow
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10:30 I'll miss the coffees the episode is capped off with
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Frasier reading Tennison poem ulyses and braving one more change in his life which brings us back to that flight I
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think it's great what you're doing well I just know I'd always regret it if I didn't take the
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chance ladies and gentlemen welcome to Chicago for your sa the captain is you
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remain seated wish me luck Fraser Taking a Chance on Love is a nice way to bookend the series what is life without
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taking those chances making those gestures striving for something to live for Fraser's life had has consistently
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been one about the barriers that prevent him from connecting to others some a product of his class others of his own
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making it's a great irony that runs through a series about a man who makes his living helping others his abysmal
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dating record is perhaps the greatest symbol of his lack of ability to connect to anything with bad luck explaining
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some of his troubles and Circumstance affecting the rest Frasier deciding to take one more leap in his life and
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heading towards the great unknown of Chicago to be with Charlotte is him finally jumping over one of those barriers finally Closing one of those
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distances and he's also turning down a great job offer as part of it effectively sacrificing Fame and Fortune
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for a chance at love if Fraser began the series as a silly rich man to absorb with vanity to find real happiness in
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his life the finale is him choosing not to venture deeper into that world so he might find something more meaningful
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when asked his thoughts on what fate awaited Frasier Kelsey Grammar said I sometimes think Frasier went to Chicago
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and Charlotte told him to get the hell out that seems to be his luck maybe they ended up with a wonderful life together
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and maybe we'll find out someday good night Seattle we love you Kelsey Grammar
Frasier in the Future
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had been mentioning the possibility of a reboot as far back as 2018 with plans originally being a third act for Frasier
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in a whole new setting the plan was at first to have it air in 2020 though that never materialized on February 24th 2021
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it was revealed that the series would be streaming exclusively on Paramount plus with hopes of it premiering sometimes in
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2022 so far there's no concrete news of a date or even cast the only thing we know for certain is that Kelsey Grammer
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will once again be reprising the of Frasier several cast members of Frasier have been asked if they're participating
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but so far no one has confirmed much of anything aside from them being aware that it will be
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happening the cultural impact and Lasting Legacy of Fraser extends well into the future it's a bit difficult to
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describe so I got some help to explain that hey this is Hoots from the YouTube channel little hoot I'm creating a
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companion video to Jose's on Frasier that's a collaboration with Neil from the liberal cook in it Neil and I
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attempt to sus out Fraser Legacy and in doing so we touch on a broad range of topics including the misogyny of '90s
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Comedy philosopher AA arent TV Tropes and Anita Hill it's kind of a wild one
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and I hope you enjoy it's hard to overstate how well-received Frasier was in addition to being a hit with strong
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ratings throughout its run Frasier also managed to win 37 prime time em Awards the most ever for a completed TV series
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until that record was broken by Game of Thrones in 2016 Kelsey gramar and David Hy Pierce both won four emys for their
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respective portrayals of Frasier and Niles and Frasier won outstanding comedy series five years in a row a feat only
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matched by Modern Family the series has also spawned a number of Home releases books and other forms of merchandise
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over the years it's also been playing in heavy syndication as well letting whole new generations of people discover Frasier Joe Keenan describes how new
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viewers react to the show saying I think new viewers like the show because apart from its quality it doesn't remind them
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of anything no one says oh yet another show about two relentlessly highbrow romantically thwarted psychiatrists
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following the end of Frasier Kelsey Grammar would go on to be involved in countless TV and film projects over the years from appearing as beast in the
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X-Men movies to being the executive producer of the TV series girlfriends he is still likely best remembered for the
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20 years he spent playing Frasier though he spent even more time 29 years in fact playing Sideshow Bob on The Simpsons and
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I would be remiss if I didn't also mention that the Simpsons had a number of Frasier references in those episodes
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including guest appearances by David Hy Pier pi and John Mahoney David Hy Pierce continued to have a number of TV and
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film roles though he tended more towards working on stage including winning a Tony for his R the 2007 production of
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curtains his performances on Frasier were typically noted for how keenly they reacted to the audience so a career on
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stage makes perfect sense for Pierce John Mahoney appeared in several roles after Frasier though Martin crane would
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always be his signature performance sadly on February 4th 2018 Mahoney passed away due to complications from
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throat cancer in an interview Perry Gilpin told us sweet story about Mahoney a few years ago JN took me and my family
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to dinner in Chicago while we were driving back my husband was texting with Chris Lloyd and read Chris's text out
1:45:32
loud please tell the great John Mahoney it was one of the honors of my life to work with him I could see a little tear
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for him in Jon's eye then my daughter says who's John Mahoney Jon almost fell out of the car laughing he never took
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himself too seriously Jane leaves continued her career throughout the 2000s after the end of Frasier
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eventually finding herself on Hot in Cleveland which ran for six seasons she took some time off of Television after
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that they eventually returned to the drama series the resident which is currently in its Fifth Season Perry Gilpin has been working in film and TV
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since the end of Frasier and has also built a fairly extensive list of credits doing voiceover work she even has the unique distinction of being part of the
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ill- fated Final Fantasy the spirits within in addition to Frasier moose also appeared in the feature film My Dog Skip
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once again alongside his son Enzo sadly on June 22nd 2006 moose passed of
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natural causes at the age of 15 Enzo would pass not long after on June 23rd 2010 at the age of 14 due to cancer both
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will be remembered as two of the very best boys class looms heavily in Frasier often as a barrier from preventing
1:46:36
people from making genuine connections the very idea of people in the upper class is consistently a source of mockery but more importantly it's also
1:46:43
demonstrated to be a driver of division and a barrier for loving compassion Frasier does a wonderful service by
1:46:48
showing us that this excess doesn't make anyone better it's a social structure that moves us away from one another
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reflecting on the show David I pierce describes how it connects people saying I have people tell me all the time that
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when their family was in crisis a dad in the hospital a mom dying ARA was the one thing their family could watch together
1:47:05
that would make them laugh it's happened so many times over the years that I no longer think of it as a coincidence but as part of the show's Legacy Frasier was
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a show about connecting through unlikely circumstances but the circumstances weren't the living arrangements but the
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way their social spheres shape them the idea that these barriers can be torn down makes it much easier to laugh
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together no matter how hard the times might get that's what makes Frasier such an excellent show when I made that
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cheers retrospective a while ago I knew it had to be a two-parter and I knew I would eventually have to speak about
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Frasier growing up I didn't really watch cheers but I definitely watched Frasier so revisiting it all these years later
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was a treat and a reminder of why this show was such a joy to watch in my youth it held up surprisingly well and I think
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that's a tribute to the writing and performances throughout it if you enjoyed this lengthy look back at the
1:47:53
show Frasier do consider becoming a patron or member for this channel you'll join all the lovely names you see
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scrolling up on the screen now plus you'll get early access to videos in the future patrons also get a little extra
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say on which series comes next though I can't make any promises as to which you all be covering thank you all so much
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spin-offs almost never work they usually miss the magic
of their predecessor run for half a season and are quickly
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forgotten resigned to the dust bin of TV history Frasier
was not just an exception it was one of those rare
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sitcoms that went from spin-off to its own full-fledged hit
a classic of the '90s Frasier ran for 11 seasons and was
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a critical darling with 37 Emmy wins which as of 2022 was
the third highest ever for a series and the highest for
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any sitcom Frasier was in some ways an unlikely success
story as big a hit as cheers was being a cheers spin-off
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wasn't a Surefire recipe for Success the first spin-off
attempt the tortellis lasted a mere 13 episodes before it was
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cancelled when cheers went off the air a poll conducted by
Pew found that of all the Cheers characters who might get a
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spin-off only 2% of fans wanted to
see one starring Frasier not the best of
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Omens but Frasier quickly won over any doubters by being a
hit from its very first episode of course the story behind
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how that show came to be started before that first title
card it's hard to explain Frasier without explaining all
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of cheers and luckily I've already done that if you'd like to hear a detailed
breakdown of that show please check out my video on Cheers for everyone else
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here's a quick refresher Frasier Crane was introduced in
season 3 of the series as a foil in the Sam Diane will they
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won't they relationship although the character was intended
to make a quick exit appearing as a temporary boyfriend
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for Diane Kelsey Grammar made such a strong impression on the show's producer
that they kept him around for the next eight seasons in that time he was left
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at the alar by Diane met and married Lilith sternin had a child named
Frederick revealed that he had been married once before in his younger days
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and eventually divorced Lilith only to seemingly reconcile
in the final season of the show at the end of Cheers Frasier
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was set to spend the rest of his days sitting in that bar
in Boston listening to Cliff tell Tall Tales watching Norm
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drink countless beers and inhaling dangerous levels of
Sam Malon many layers of cologne but a Frasier spin-off
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took the character in a New Direction let's briefly talk
about wings the series was created by David Angel Peter
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Casey and David Lee all former writers on Cheers
it was through their production company grub Street
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Productions that they approached Kelsey Grammar about working on a new series
they had a good relationship from their time on Cheers together so much so that
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Frasier even made a guest
appearance on an episode of wings All
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Aboard a crane Train to mental well-being originally
this new project wasn't going to be a cheers related
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spin-off at all but rather an original series starring Kelsey
gramar the idea they came up with was that of a wealthy
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Mogul who was in a motorcycle accident and then confined to
his bedroom running his entire Empire from his bed the idea
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was rejected by NBC and Paramount and it was firmly suggested
that the new show would be about Fraser crane he looked
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across the table and said uh there's only one
thing I got to tell you I think a sitcom should be
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funny it's got to be Frasier we got to do Frasier again if
Frasier was going to return Kelsey gramar and insisted on the
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rest of the show being something entirely new so the character was packed up
moved to Seattle and would start a new life as a radio psychiatrist Frasier
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Crane would be played of course by Kelsey gramar the
audite sophisticated man returning to his hometown although
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he had known Frasier for 9 years on Cheers in Seattle he
would be far more inclined to let his more cultured side
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show with less time spent on bar stools and more time spent
in Opera boxes he would also spend less time being married
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and more time trying to figure out how to be a single man
in his 40s I'm Miss Frederick like the Dickens of course you
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know he's quite a boy he's playing goalie
on the PB soccer team now Chip over the old
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block you hated Sports so does he
David Hyde Pierce was cast as Niles
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crane Frasier's younger brother although the initial idea for the show never
included a Brother character he was added after assistant casting director
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Sheila Guthrie pointed out how much Pierce resembled a
young Kelsey gramar particularly in his first appearance on
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Cheers after the character was created the role went
Direct appears who created exactly what you would expect of
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Frasier's brother Prim eccentric and dripping with
snobbery oh I'm sorry N I didn't realize you'd stop
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talking you haven't heard a word I said oh NES you're a psychiatrist you
know what it's like to listen to people prattling on endlessly about their
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mundane lives T and on that subject I
heard your show today Martin crane was
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played by John Mahoney the gruff former cop who finds himself
suddenly living with Frasier after he becomes unable to
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handle life on his own due to a gunshot shot wound he received
a few years prior Martin was inspired by the real life
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experience of siries co-creator David Lee who had been helping take care of
his infirm father at the time I was thinking about a recent stroke that my
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father had had and I mentioned to Peter and David have you noticed that
everybody our age is starting to have to take care of their parents more and sort
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of try to tie up old strings and heal
wounds heal wounds Mahoney was the first
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choice for the character and much like Pierce was offered
the role directly my study you expect me to give up my study
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the place where I read where I do my most profound thinking
I used the can like the rest of the world Jane leaves
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played Daphney Moon Martin's physical therapist and living
housekeeper for Frasier and Martin although initially
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there was some discussion on making her Latina The Producers
eventually made Daphne English and Jane leaves like
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Pierce and Mahoney before her was pre-approve for the
role daany provides a quirkier side of Frasier's home life
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occasionally dropping in strange stories from her days
back in Manchester and having the odd psychic Vision wait a
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minute I'm getting something
on you you're a florist
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no I'm a psychiatrist well it comes and
goes Ros Doyle played by Perry Gilpin is
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the hard-edged foil to the more gential character of
Frasier she brings her Frank way of speaking to bear in most
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scenes at the kacl radio station along with a very
prolific dating life the only character whose actor wasn't
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pre-approved at first Lisa cudra was cast to be raw
Gilpin was brought in when things didn't work out with her
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although kudra would find her own success a year later
when she was cast as Phoebe in the show Friends totally
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passionless it was like he was
thinking of someone else I know I
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was somebody's here I got to go all
right I'll talk to you later bye mom the
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final member of the cast was a lovable Jack Russell Terrier
named moose who played the role of Eddie Martin's pet
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dog moose played Eddie for the first six seasons but in later
Seasons with moose getting older his son Enzo took up the
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family business and also played Eddie Dad
I can't read my paper Eddie's staring at me
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well you do make quite a picture in
the morning just ignore him I'm trying to
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I'm talking to the dog although the principal
cast was relatively small Frasier made the most
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of them with numerous episodes exploring the antics of the Korean men and the
women who tolerated them there were several recurring characters who joined
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them including Dan Butler as Bob Bulldog Brisco Edward Hibert
as Gil Chesterton and Tom mcowan as Kenny Daly even though
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Frasier was a spin-off there was such a strong desire for
it to be it own show that very few cameos came from cheers
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regulars with one exception BB newerth who would reprise
her role as Lilith in every season of Frasier although the
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show had no theme song Its ending theme toss salad and
scrambled eggs sung by grammar at his insistence is one of TV's
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most memorable closers according to the series composer Bruce
Miller the lyrics weren't allowed to make any reference to
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the subject matter of the show including its title and there has been
some speculation as to what the song even means although the lyrics seem
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nonsensical they actually do tell us story hey baby I hear
the blues a call in TOS salad and scrambled eggs refers
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to Frasier's callers on his radio show the next part but
maybe I seem a bit confused maybe but I got you pegged
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refers to Fraser struggling to understand his own life
but still being able to help but I don't know what to do
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with these toss salad and scrambled eggs they're calling again
is a reference to an endless stream of people calling for
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[Music] help on September 16th
1993 Frasier The Pilot Episode
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debuted and much of America was watching
the premiere of Frasier was titled The
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Good Son and was written by the show's creators David Angel
Peter Casey and David Lee and directed by longstanding
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cheers director James buroughs it very quickly filled in the
blanks as to what happened with Frasier following the end
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of Cheers 6 months ago I was living in
Boston my wife had left me which was
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very painful then she came
back to me which was excruciating
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reflecting on this moment writer David Isaac said that got
a big laugh bigger than it should have I thought to myself
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we're going to be okay part of the premise is given to us
right away with Frasier hosting a Radio Show in Seattle
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and we are introduced to his brother Niles in a creative
way Frasier made use of title cards to introduce scenes so
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instead of having an awkward bit of dialogue where the relationship between
Frasier and Niles is acknowledged explicitly the title card simply reads
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the brother these title cards became an iconic part of the
Frasier style often framing your expectations for a scene
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with some important information or providing a joke to
add a bit more levity into the scene in the cafe Niles
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helpfully introduces the idea that Martin should move in
with Frasier all right I'll make up the spare bedroom oh
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you're a good son Fraser oh God I am aren't
I two Cafe supremos anything to eat no I
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seem to have lost my appetite I'll have
a large piece of cheesecake Martin is
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not thrilled with the arrangement we all know why I'm here
your old man can't be left alone for 10 minutes without
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falling on his ass and phrase you
got stuck with me isn't that right no no
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no I want you here it'll give us a chance to get
reacquainted that implies we were acquainted at one
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[Laughter] point Martin brings one piece
of furniture with him to complete Frasier's
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carefully decorated apartment his iconic chair after a
suggestion from Niles Frasier decides to hire some help and we
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then meet Daphne you were a policeman
weren't you yeah how'd you know I must
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confess I'm a bit cic Martin
instantly wants to hire her
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partially I suspect to annoy Frasier the main conflict of this
episode is between Frasier and Martin struggling to find a
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way to live together ever since you moved in here it's
been a snide comment about this or a smart little put down
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about that well I've done my best to make a home here for
you and once just once would it have killed you to say
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thank you one lousy thank you after
the fight Martin makes a gesture to Frasier
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the best way he can yeah I'm worried my son doesn't
know that I really appreciate what he's done for
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me why don't you tell him a you know
how it is with Fathers and Sons it have
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trouble saying that stuff well if it
helps I suspect your son already knows
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how you feel is that all
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yeah I guess that's it thank you Dr crane my pleasure Martin
you hear what I said I said thank you yes I heard what
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makes this a great pilot is that it not only establishes
the premise and introduces the characters but also sets
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up one of the primary plot lines for the first few seasons
Frasier and Martin reconnecting after Frasier had spent 15
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years away in Boston one thing abundantly clear is that
this show will be set in the world of the upper class
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Frasier is obviously well off and so is Niles and while Martin
and dle certainly aren't both of them will be living under
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Frasier's roof reacting to the context he's created for
them and RZ while more akin to Daphne and Martin in class
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status typically appears in scenes at the radio station the
cafe or Fraser's apartment in a supporting role when you
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look at the class backgrounds of the characters this split between them
matters far less than the context they find themselves in ultimately this show
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is about Frasier's World Niles might be the best fit into
it but to an extent all the other characters are trying to
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fit into Frasier's world as well and this is all very ironic considering this
whole episode is about Frasier fighting himself in a new context it speaks to
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the power of perspective and how when a show focuses on one
character it can very easily shape the world around them
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and how they Define
this [Music] Frasier
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space living in an apartment that is almost timelessly
classic in its design working the cushy job of radio
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psychiatrist and going to Chic restaurants and art
events Fraser crane is a man of means and class he's also
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incredibly arrogant and sometimes a complete
goof but none of these qualities make him
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particularly likable the key to Fraser's appeal is that
he very deeply cares about people Frasier's job as a
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radiotherapist makes him something of a local celebrity in
Seattle more so than you'd expect from someone on the radio
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and Frasier is more than happy to Revel in that Fame and
Fortune then I will just tell them that they can take their
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five figure deal and find someone
else five figures didn't I mention precious
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this is for television the big Kon television research
has shown that a single television commercial can turn an
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obscure radio personality into a national
celebrity a year from now someone like
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you could be broadcasting your message of Hope and healing
not just to the Pacific Northwest but to the entire
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nation that celebrity affords Fraser access to Seattle's
more Elite circles often hobbying with the most impressive
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of knobs what makes Razer fun to watch is when that class
status makes him the subject of mockery for example when
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Bulldog tricks him into singing some Gilbert at Sullivan
I don't suppose you happen to remember the words to Three
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Little Maids well let me see
Three Little Maids from school are
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we is a school girl well maybe
filled with the brim with girlish
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GLE it's the classic comedy Trope of laughing at someone in
a higher class be humiliated and while it's easy to laugh
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at Frasier's class making him look silly it does make it
tougher to empathize with him when it also isolates him from
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suffering in The Crucible Frasier is the victim of fraud
when a painting he's purchased is revealed to be a forgery I
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didn't paint it of of
course you didn't you you
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created it you gave birth to it I
didn't do anything to it I never
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saw this painting before in my whole life
and you thought I was going to embarrass
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you the cops are unable to help Frasier and a legal
proceeding against the gallery he bought the painting from
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would cost more than the painting is worth leaving him with nothing to do
but hurl a brick through the gallery's window if you act like a barbarian you
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will become a barbarian give me the brick
Frasier and let him get away with this I
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know I know but the gallery owner did to you was
wrong it was humiliating but if you throw that brick
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through that window you will have lost something
more Val valuable than your money you have
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lost your mind frer you can't do this
Injustice for Frasier is a blow to his
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ego but not the material conditions of his life Niles's advice
is good only in so far that Frasier can afford to take a
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little humiliation what if this was someone who swindled
out of their savings or even their weekly paycheck
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the real lesson here is that the privileged can afford for the system to
fail them at the end of the show's Fifth Season Frasier stand against kacl
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station manager it's him and all of his colleagues fired and
we see Frasier in season 6 out of work for the first Nine
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episodes Frasier
you're not famous
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anymore Kelsey Grammer spoke about these episodes with Fraser
being out of work we thought it was a good storyline we
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got nine stories out of it we thought it was an interesting
Journey for him to take we always knew he was going to go
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back to the station but I think it might have made the
audience uncomfortable because Frasier wasn't as attractive
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there was something more sad about him Frasier's suffering
is a huge part of what makes the show work but that's
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often seen through his many failures in dating or struggling
to hold a dinner party being out of work hit differently
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it's easy enough to empathize with a Frasier struggling
to find someone dating is universal and when his fancy
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dinner parties go arai it's usually just his own vanity biting
him in the butt but this pain wasn't as easy to laugh at
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it was understandable without being relatable because
even out of work Frasier wasn't hurting for money he was
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upset that he wasn't famous anymore it's possible to pity
Frasier but it's a lot harder to empathize and empathy is at
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the heart of what makes Frasier a great character we can
see Fraser's personal empathy in his chosen profession as a
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psychiatrist Fraser's background in Psychiatry means he's
a medical doctor who has chosen to specialize in mental
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health although being a character created in 1984
he represents a very old-fashioned depiction of a
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psychiatrist one who fits the classic mold of having a
patient sit on a couch while they talk through their problems
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as their psychiatrist takes notes and offers a few insights
something more likely to see a psychologist do today
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rather than a psychiatrist Frasier practices his Psychiatry
through his radio show hello Mark I'm listening okay
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uh well I work at this all night Mini
Mart and um I've been watching myself on
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the video camera and the camera me is doing things I
don't approve of these calls are often voiced by some
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pretty popular actors including Mel Brooks Ben Stellar
Elijah Wood Mary Tyler Moore and Kevin Bacon Frasier is a
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Freudian which dates them even further back to the practice
of psychoanalysis and psychoanalysis as is sometimes
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mentioned on the show doesn't have the best track record
in the episode chess pains after losing several games of
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Chess against his father Frasier is obsessed with winning
I am analyzing my options unlike your winging approach I
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like to plan a strategy like a
general leading his troops into
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battle checkm Schwarz cop
Frasier who fancies himself
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intellectual force can accept that his less educated
father who had never played chess before is better than him
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so Frasier and Niles analyze why this is happening sooner
or later the sun eclipses the father it's the natural
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order yet it's frequently a stumbling block because the
sun's competitive stirrings are accompanied by tremendous
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feelings of guilt I see yes it's the
classic edible conflict my God it seems
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so obvious now I've been letting him win later Martin cuts
the heart of what's really happening this isn't about losing
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is it this is about losing to me that's
what's driving you nuts how could I lose
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to the old man I'm much smarter than he is I never said that no you didn't have
to say you've thought it all your life no I haven't yes you haven't are you're
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insulting my intelligence again the answer is painfully
obvious Martin is just better at chess than Frasier in
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fact there's an episode of Cheers where Frasier loses a
game of chess to the slow-witted Woody raising serious
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questions about Fraser's chess skills rather than accept
that maybe he needs to improve his chess game Frasier and
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Niles con Co this Freudian explanation as to why Frasier
keeps losing it isn't a genuine attempt to understand the
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situation but rather to protect Fraser's ego on the presumption
that an educated man like him must be better at chess
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than Martin even when Frasier finally wins he has to make
a subtle nod to his little pet theory about this being some
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kind of eatable struggle I'm sorry I beat
you Dad this once again highlights how
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Frasier is at its funniest when it's highlighting the
excesses of the character the series often includes
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skepticism towards psychiat and psychology more broadly
or at least the type practiced by Frasier and Niles I'm
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not like a psychiatrist who works with someone for
years and years and it doesn't matter if they ever get
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better a bust of Freud oh well that's
really quite thoughtful of you I figured
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you'd appreciate the irony since he's
been proven wrong about practically
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everything I like to think that Freud's theories will
stand the test of time really have you read either of his
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books oh what a relief I've been ringing my hands over
nothing I mean it's okay all I want to do is have sex with my
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dead mother that last
clip is Fraser San in
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relief because he's figured out the meaning of a particularly difficult
dream he's been having where he finds himself in bed with his colleague
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Gil well look who's up although
dreams being secret desires
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people have isn't backed by much scientific evidence if
you're someone who buys into dream analysis the obvious
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reading here is that Frasier is secretly gay an interpretation
he resists here's something dreams as an expression of
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wish fulfillment moving on so
he and Niles dive deep into their
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knowledge of dream analysis to pull together all sorts of
conclusions that will supposedly resolve the tension in
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Fraser's mind letting him avoid these
dreams of course it's so obvious Gil is
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a food critic food criticism mother
once again this analysis is very forced the
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tools of Freudian psychoanalysis are less a tool for
greater understanding and used instead to reassure Fraser's
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ego in the decades since his ideas were introduced much of
the work of Sigman Freud has largely been supplanted the
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best explanation I've heard as to why he should still be taught in an academic
setting is that his insights were incredibly important even though his
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conclusions were ridiculous for example his Insight that
human development is a product of not nature or n but rather
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nature interacting with nurture was groundbreaking but
his conclusion that development was The Guiding of sexual
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desire through distinct stages from infancy to adolesence including
breastfeeding leading to some kind of oral fixation is completely without
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empirical support while it might seem like I'm being a
bit unfair to an older show none of what I'm saying is
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particularly new Freud's theories have been criticized
for decades and much of this was known in the 9s Frasier
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represents the classic idea of a psychiatrist in the world of Pop
Culture not reality the the type of psychoanalysis done by Frasier is
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sometimes not much better than what Daphne can figure out
on her own in your dream who was in the shower Gill what is
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a shower running water who needs water
fish what do fish have gills do you see
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where I'm going by the end of this episode
Frasier realizes he's feeling frustrated at work
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because he finds a lack of challenge in the colors he's getting and according
to him and Niles that should resolve the dream except the episode ends like this
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Dr CR Dr Sigman fre my
goodness it's quite an honor the
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honor is all mine I gave you a complex psychological
problem and your soul right now we have more important
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matters and just to be clear I'm not saying therapy
is a bad thing in fact working with a psychiatrist or
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psychologist can be incredibly helpful in improving one's
mental health what I am saying is that Frasier and Niles
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often let their biases impact their Psychiatry particularly
when they try to understand themselves and that some of
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the theories and ideas that they use are very out of date
even for the '90s there is another problem with the type of
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Psychiatry practiced by Frasier and NES too generally
speaking it is very expensive while Frasier doesn't charge
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his color anything his background and expertise come from
a field of medicine that is very lucrative psychoanalytic
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therapy can involve multiple sessions a week sometimes
lasting for years and at a cost of $1 to $200 a session in
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today's money this type of therapy can be very costly
another way which the series demonstrates the barriers class
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places between acts of compassion although Fraser has chosen a field that
puts his help out of the reach of all but the most privileged one overarching
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aspect of his character and one that makes him particularly
likable is that he genuinely wants to help other people
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this can be seen in him choosing to host a show where people can call in with
their problems for free as limited help as that may be one specific example of
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Fraser's compassion overcoming his vanity is in the
episode Death Becomes him when Martin's physician suddenly
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passes away a man who was similar in physique behavior and
temperament to Frasier it leads him to question his own
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mortality Frasier D please
sh trying to listen to my
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heartbeat Frasier becomes obsessed planning his own
funeral and trying to find a way in which this doctor
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neglected his health he even crashes the men's Shiva to
learn more about him he only steps out of his vanity when the
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opportunity to help someone arises I suppose the
best we can do is is live for the little Joys and uh
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surprises that life affords us
you can't spend your life being
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obsessed with death
you're not Jewish are you
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Frasier's Insight come from his own experiences and he uses
these moments of compassion for others as opportunities
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to grow himself which isn't the safest way to practice
Psychiatry but on a more human emotional level it offers the
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chance for two people to help one another in the episode
Dark Victory a disastrous birthday party for Martin
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leaves everyone
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bickering no wait R where you going
with a blackout keeping them all indoors
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Frasier makes the rounds with everyone in his little extended
family offering advice to calm their various tensions
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maybe you're just looking for too much from your job we should
start exploring other areas of your life interests maybe
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a maybe a serious relationship
maybe you're right right I
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me how long can I go on chasing these hunky 25y olds that
are all looks and no substance exactly Ron oh I'm serious I'm
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asking how long 3 four years it just makes me feel like
I'm not very ambitious I mean I could be working in a
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hospital or a clinic of course you could daely but maybe
that's not L important to you right now I think you like being
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part of a family you can't walk around
Paris you could sit at a nice cafe and
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let Paris walk past you maybe buy
a glass of wine for a beautiful mm
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moiselle get yourself a nice bottle of
imported beer I only like Valentine's in
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Paris Valentine's is imported
beer could it be that you really upset
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just because you you couldn't help that woman you know I
really hate that when you take a simple criticism and you turn
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it back on me I think I'm right well of course you're right
why do you think I hate it and at the end of it all Frasier
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is left emotionally spent I tend to each
one of you and you all feel better and
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the minute you get a whiff of mosquite coming
from down below you are out the door without so
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much as a thank you well thank you for the
invitation but I am frankly fed up with people and
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their problems the
doctor is out oh come
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on okay apologies accepted you
come Frasier is a helper from from the
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callers on his show to his own family and more than that he's willing
to sacrifice his own downtime to help others albeit while venting his
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frustrations at the situation which is totally fair when
you consider his job is to help people and having to do the
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same for the people in his personal life might feel incredibly
taxing but that gets to the heart of why he's a likable
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character he's willing to put others before himself one
particularly clever part of this episode is that it takes
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place during a blackout which makes the fancy trappings
around them disappear leaving the characters with only the
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props of their own baggage with all that gone Frasier can
navigate through the void using only his compassion to
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connect with his loved ones and it works very well problems
are solved Rifts are mended and everyone is brought a few
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steps closer to each other in the episode the
thousandth Show Seattle hosts a Fraser crane Day episode
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speaking directly to Fraser's vanity for your sake
and the stations to submit to a small tasteful uh
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lowkey public rally a series of mishaps
keep Fraser from the rally and he's left
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to dwell on his own sense self I
wanted my day I wanted hoopla and
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fuss practically plan the whole thing myself when Frasier
eventually gets to the rally via a limo ride or rather
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almost there he postpones a tending because he's met someone
who needs help no don't worry about me I got plenty of
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time tell me more
about your kids all
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right I'm John by the way I'm Fraser
the crumpled sign reflects how hollow
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the fame and fortune are compared to the act of compassion
much like the blackout hiding Fraser's wealth this abuan of
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Frasier's Fame reveal that the true value of his character
comes from how he helps people Frasier's wealth and radio
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show fueled by his occasionally dubious Psychiatry create a
distance between him and the people he wants to help in the
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episode Fraser's Edge this becomes particularly evident
after being told he'll be winning a Lifetime Achievement
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Award Frasier has a crisis of confidence and goes to see
his old Mentor Dr William tubry played by Renee Ooa I
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suppose if one were looking hard enough one could even say
you're coming down here was a desperate quest for approval
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oh well that one's a little out
there Dr Tukes reveals to Frasier that
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he has a tendency to keep people at
a distance how's your practice I don't
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have a practice I have a radio show
distance any children yes I have a
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wonderful son with whom I'm very close you live with with
him he lives in Boston distance with your wife my exwife
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yes I know distance wasn't she a psychiatrist yes she was
she Happ to be a damn good one too well that's a handy
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choice for someone who'd rather share
ideas than emotions have you ever met
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Lilith no well she happens to
be a a very warm and loving
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woman although psychoanalysis isn't always the best
tool for providing therapy to someone it does make for a
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handy way of dissecting art particularly art that holds
it in high regard this episode demonstrates the distance
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Frasier has created in his life but it goes beyond the
personal relationships and professional choices he's made it
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goes deep into who he is as a character he lives in a social
class that creates distance from the rest of the world he
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works in a profession only available to those with the means to pay for it and
when he takes a step towards bringing his expertise to the people it's done in
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a way that keeps those people at a distance as well and
somehow through all those distances manages to make real
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connections and give people genuine Comfort class through
the mediums of wealth and exclusive medical treatment
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reveals itself to be a barrier to expressions of human
compassion Frasier is a likable character not because he
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uses his status to help others but because he
can help others in spite of [Music] Cheers Cameos
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it Frasier simply wouldn't exist without cheers so it made
perfect sense for some of those old friends from cheers to stop
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by a few cameos throughout the years Frasier had been moved
to Seattle in part to signify that this new show would
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be a departure from cheers and the first season of Frasier
deliberately avoided bringing back any other cheers alumni
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the one exception naturally was his ex-wife Lilith and the
episode featuring her return titled the show where Lilith
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comes back was the second most watched episode of
Frasier ever congratulations Frasier you've done it
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again luckily for us Frasier and Lilith
still have that wonderful chemistry I'm
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here for a conven and I happened to hear your voice on the
radio I kept hoping you'd introduce Pearl Jam's latest hit
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but much to my chagrin you were doing out worthless
little advice pellets from your psychiatric pz
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dispenser Lilith would make guest appearances in each
of the show's 11 seasons including a particularly
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memorable episode where she hooks up with Niles let's try
to stay calm these things happen they happen every day
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every day in Arkansas Fier son Frederick
first played by Luke tarsitano and then Trevor
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Einhorn also made several appearances memorably offering
some competition to Niles that's so cute he's got a crush on
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you yes you should have seen him last night I spent
the entire evening sitting on daff's lap watching TV
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really what can I do to make you
feel better maybe a hug oh come
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here oh there you
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go by the end of the series we see how Fraser and Lilith
have grown to have a meaningful friendship together with one
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hand the past moves us forward and with the other
it holds us back and Frasier in spite of Frederick
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entering his goth phase in the final season still
manages to have a connection with his son Andy ran into a
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friend from her old school uh
another boy she talked to me the
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whole night I'm sorry son these
things happened and well they
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always think did it ever
happen to you Dad it may
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have Frasier in spite of the challenges of living on the
other side of the country manages to hold on to the things
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that matter most to him from his time in Boston it's a
charmingly uplifting message of course there were some other
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connections from Boston who also had cameos in the season
2 episode the show where Sam shows up Sam alone naturally
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played by Ted Denson makes a surprise appearance in Seattle
this episode also provides some interesting bits of trivia
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such as highlighting how much David Hy Pierce looked like a
young Kelsey gramar when he first appeared on Cheers wow man
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this is freaky he looks just just like
you did when I met you what happened
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huh wasn't exactly a health club you were running
there s we also get some plot holes addressed
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such as the truth behind Fraser's father my father wanted
me to go into psychology insisted on it at the time I
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hated him for it and he died before I had a
chance to realize that he was right and I never
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got to tell him he told me you were
dead dad well we had had an argument
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called me a stuffed shirt and hung up on me
I was mad you're a cop you told me he was a
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research scientist you were dead what
did it matter in the episode the show where
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Diane comes back we get a cameo from Shelley Long reprising
her role as Diane Frasier's former fiance there was a very
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brief Diane cameo in season 2 but it was this season 3
episode that really brought her back for a proper cheers
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reunion complete with a Stage production this whole
getting left at the altar thing I just don't know what I'm
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supposed to be feeling I
may be able to illuminate that
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foil what you are feeling is that this woman has reached
into your chest plucked out your heart and thrown it to
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her hell hounds for a chew toy the episode off first
Fraser the chance to get some real closure with Diane after
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over a decade of
bitterness goodbye
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Diane goodbye
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frasia for I have it in season
six Woody harelson once
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again took up the role of Woody Boyd in an episode you'll
be shocked to learn was called the show where Woody shows up
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up this episode really seemed to tie a bow on the idea
that Frasier was no longer a spin-off and had cemented its
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own identity in case four and a half successful Seasons
wasn't enough I've moved on to bigger and better things in
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my life he's still pouring drinks back at the same bar he's
been at for the last 15 years don't you think that's kind of sad
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no offense but look at your life you you you
live with your dad you hang out with your brother
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you well just the other day I was
thinking about your life and all I could
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think was what how lucky
you are you see you you
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found where you belong and you've made your home
there I guess for some of us it just takes longer than
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others Cheers Cheers
the last of the cheers
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reunions is also the only one with an original name cheerful
goodbyes this brought back Cliff claven played by John
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ratzenberger Norm Peterson played by George went and car
Maria Victoria Angelina Teresa abalonia lupon torelli
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Lebec played by Ria Pearlman of the cheers reunions this
one is the most extensive and feels the least natural
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even though it takes place in Boston there's no sign of
the original Cheers Bar it also doesn't quite feel the same
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without Sam Woody or Rebecca the interactions between the
two casts are interesting but are mostly a novelty the
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presence of a guy who looks suspiciously like cheers director
James buroughs who also directed 32 episodes of Frasier
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along with cameos from a number of Cheers regulars makes
the whole episode feel like a mesic celebration of the
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series that birthed Frasier it might have made for a good
cheers reunion but it being an average episode of Frasier
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speaks even further to how far apart these two shows of
Grown the only principal cast member from cheers still
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alive to not appear on Fraser at all was chrisy Ali it's been
reported that the reason why was because Ally a practicing
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Scientologist didn't approve of a show about Psychiatry
when asked in an interview about why Ally hadn't appeared
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on the show co-creator David Lee
said I don't recall asking [Music] Martin
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the original premise for Frasier was the building of a relationship between
Frasier and his father Martin my brother and I a lot more like my mother you know
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if it wasn't biologically impossible I'd swear that Dad
was dropped in a basket on our doorstep many of the early
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episodes of the series include moments where Frasier and Martin make an effort
to connect and it's a bit of a struggle for them so how about those Seahawks no
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Sports all right no Opera agreed
Martin is the voice of reason
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when it comes to making things work look you want us to
forge some great fatherson relationships to make some
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connection well that kind of thing takes a couple
of years not a couple of days doesn't it you're the
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shrink couple of years huh it'll go by before
you know it either that or it'll seem like
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eternity importantly Martin's not just being roped into
a pet project of frasers to mend their relationship he
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wants to reconnect as well and rather than through Frasier's
exercises growing closer comes about just by them being
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together more often creating new opportunities to learn
about one another it seems like a tall order with Martin
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being so unlike his sons but Kelsey Grammar summed up the
dynamic nicely saying people always ask how Frasier and
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Niles came from a father like Martin Martin's in public
service into knowing what's right and wrong that's exactly
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what his sons were on the simplest level he was a good man
and their Hope was to become the same thing one sweet example
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is in the episode Martin does it his way where the crane men
Bond while trying to piece together a song Martin and written
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decades previously he was hoping to
send to Frank Sinatra she's such a groovy
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lady she makes my heart godey
she is the chck I SP my night
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dreaming while many of the bonding moments were like
this the series also didn't shy away from other types of
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bonding in Beloved Infidel a secret is revealed about
Martin and an old family friend look don't bother calling an
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Vivian you want to
know the truth fine
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I had an affair it happened a long time
ago and it's not anything I'm proud of but
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eventually Frasier finds out the truth
Frasier your mother was a good person so
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was my husband they made a mistake and the
two have something to connect over I never
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told you this but um Lilith did the
same thing to me Lilith had an affair it's
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the most painful and humiliating experience of my
entire life well I'm sure you felt the same way well
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I hadn't thought about it for quite some time
but thanks for reminding me look son do me a
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favor don't hate your mother for
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this I wasn't the easiest person to live with back
then and she had plenty of reason for doing what she
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did luckily we were able to put it behind us but
I'll tell you there were times when it really tore
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me up I loved your
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mother so did I ever since you moved in here we've been
trying to find something we have in common and I I think we
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finally found it yeah wish
it was a birthmark so do
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I the idea of bonding over trauma is a good one and the
family connection makes it even stronger helping Forge this
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connection Martin and Frasier were hoping for and by the fourth season
we started to see this father son relationship take real shape in our
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father whose art ain't Heaven Frasier refuses a gift from
Martin and we see what that just meant to the guy you
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don't like it I'll take it back oh thank god dad thank you that's
such a relief you know I was up half the night worried about it and I
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just Dad are you all right
well I didn't upset you did
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I my god dad are you
crying no no oh my
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God I made my father that all you
start and Frasier wasn't the only son
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connecting to Martin D are you
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crying Fraser what H oh my God
you're crying too why is everybody
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crying you know how I get when other people cry tell me
what happened even the small gestures reveal how the two of
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them have grown closer together mom's a hard
act to follow we knew we were meant to be
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together and that was
that it's hard to find that out
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there I've been trying for a
while you'll get there this all raises
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some interesting questions about the show if by the halfway
point the main premise of a father and son reconnecting
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had already reached its conclusion what's to be done
with Martin to understand Martin though it's important
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to take a step back and understand who his character
is aside from his relationship with Frasier Martin is
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often positioned on the show as the average guy the
working class every man most of the audience can relate to
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except Martin isn't really the average blue collar worker
he's presented as he's a former cop and that has an impact
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on how he sees the world here's a brief example of his
politics how could you support that odious little hose
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head I once heard him say cancer aside tobacco is
good for the economy he's going to put more cops on
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the street when Frasier is dealing with a con man in episode
fool me once shame on you fool me twice Martin makes his
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feelings about people in general clear this world would be
a happier place if everybody had remember two little words
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people stink although we only get vague references to
Martin's life before he became a cop his time working for the
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forest has certainly cemented the idea that people are
generally bad and need the firm hand of the police to keep them
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in check throughout the series Martin is softened quite a
bit becoming more werse in the Finer Things in life thanks to
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his time with Frasier and becoming a Kinder gentler person as a result
of having a stronger home life and connection with his sons but his
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attitudes towards people more broadly doesn't change too
much he can't share Frasier's optimism that people are
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generally good and when he's given the opportunity to offer
some forgiveness of his own he can't bring himself to do it
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in the season 8 episode a day in May Martin attends the
parole hearing of the guy who shot him even after speaking
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with the man's mother Martin can't bring himself to make a
statement in favor of his release the victim is here Mr Crane
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would you like to
make a statement
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I have nothing to say Martin doesn't have to forgive the
guy who shot him but his rigidness here represents a side of
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him that he carries throughout the series this skepticism
towards the idea that people can change for the better
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which is ironic concerning his own change throughout the series such as
finally mustering the courage to tell his sons that he loves them a frasure
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rure I Love You
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Niles I love you Martin's struggle to connect with his
sons and his cynicism towards Society present a man who is
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trapped in certain confining elements of masculinity we see
Martin get angry when Eddie is playing with a doll or his deep
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discomfort when Frasier wants to talk about his concerns
that he may be gay Martin has a very fixed idea of what it
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means to be a man in the world and it's what makes him
miserable it may also be part of the reason he chose to become a
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police officer a job that reflects masculinity that
drenched him in cynicism Martin is both a victim and a
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critique of the times he lived in and sometimes the show
goes out of its way to present that to us here's Martino
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pining on women getting pregnant out of wedlock things
have sure changed since my day back then if a girl got in
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trouble her family just ship her off to relatives in
another state and if anybody asked this lied and you went to
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Europe then once you came back they'd raised the baby
as a little sister not like today we had morals and
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values back then in later seasons of the series Martin began
something close to a Redemption Arc In The Return of Martin
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crane we see Martin leave his early retirement to rejoin
the Working World as a security guard although not exactly
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quite the high stakes job of his younger days it does let him reclaim part of
his life by feeling like he's part of society it's not as though he's in dire
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need of assistance with him being quite happy living with Frasier but Martin
needs something to feel like he isn't just slipping into the back pocket of
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someone else's life and adorably part of Martin reasserted
himself often involves treating his sons like kids I'm going to
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work now I'll be
home late don't wait
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up this happened throughout the series and was one of the
few ways Martin would assert control over his life Martin's
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dating life was the subject throughout the series while he
had had some success with women it wasn't until the show's
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final season that he met Ronnie Lawrence played by Wendy
Malik a former babysitter of Fraser and Niles how are
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you Mr Craig it's Marty and I'm just
great you haven't changed a bit oh yes I
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have I can legally drink now
it's a bit strange considering the
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dynamic they used to have though it has been over 30 years since Ronnie was
a teenage babysitter working for the cranes even so Martin still feels a bit
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00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:54,928
insecure she's young she's got all these
guys after her and I'm lucky she even
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00:46:55,000 --> 00:47:01,976
gave me a Second Glance I don't want to blow it by looking
like some desperate old guy with no options it's not
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desperate to tell somebody how you feel about them what if
she doesn't feel the same way but if she does and you never
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find out Martin eventually tells Ronnie how strongly he feels about her and
the two grow closer throughout the final season at the beginning of the series
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Martin is a crotchety old man with a funny dog who lives alone with no real
connections aside from his old buddies on the police force by the end he's
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reconnected with his sons found new family in Daphne and
Ros managed to find his first lasting relationships since
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his wife passed away a new Purpose with a new job and he
still has that funny dog Martin wasn't quite the Everyman
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because it's difficult to believe that the average man
lives a life quite as tragic as his had been in that first
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episode and one drenched in so much cynicism and
bitterness towards the World At Large but by making him the
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every man and highlighting his journey it reveals that life
can still change even in old age in some of the most dire
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of circumstances that you can discover a new reason to
wake up every morning Martin still carries the baggage of a
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cynical cop who's been shaped into someone suspicious of the world around
him but by learning to find the good in his life from family and new friends
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he's at least found some kind of Happiness Frasier
writer Joe Keenan explains this saying Martin could have
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stepped out of an Arthur Miller play the guy's lost
everything he's loved his wife job Independence he has nothing
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left but his dog chair and two sons he feels looked down on him watching him
warm up to them gave the show its sweetest most hopeful long-term Arc and
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the episode Freudian sleep the cast of the show minus Ros
have a series of bizarre nightmares while staying at a
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house in the mountain when we peer into
Martin's dreams though they take a different
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[Music] Eddie
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tone of all the sections this one was a bit of a struggle
as Eddie is the character steeped in the most scandalous
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of controversies I should acknowledge first one of the big
ones that he has had a longstanding feud with a certain
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type of bird is this vicious blue J on the terrrace who
keeps teasing him then Eddie goes chasing after him and slams
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into that glass door and this bird just struts
around big as you please laughing that snoody bird
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laugh snoody bird laugh
yeah like that I'd like to remind
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my audience that we aren't hearing the bird side of the story
for this incident so please don't rush to Judgment of this
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particular blue jay behind the scenes there was also ongoing
drama between the dogs who played Eddie moose and his son
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Enzo co-creator Peter Casey explains moose Mo and Enzo
hated each other they couldn't be on the set together
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apparently it was one of those classic parent child Hollywood
rivalries even with all this controversy swirling about
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there were a number of wonderful Eddy moments much of this
should be credited to his trainer mati de Kagney she even
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got a nod in one of the episodes the
finest jilda ever sung was by the great
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Matilda dag it's difficult to analyze the majesty and
depth of the Eddie character so I won't go into too much
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more detail aside from the fact that throughout the
series he was questionably and unwaveringly a very
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good boy there were also the revelations in his groundbreaking
biography the details of which can be safely passed
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over in this video you can SE this book out if you're
curious to learn more about this [Music] Farce in Frasier
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pup one of the signature styles of Frasier was its
use of farce these comedies of erors revolved around a
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misunderstanding or misunderstandings spiraling out of
control an early example is the episode The Matchmaker
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where Fraser's new boss thinks he's gay that's
a hell of a view it's even better from the
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bedroom why don't we just start with a
drink another would be the inke keepers
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where Frasier and Niles open a restaurant together n
how are those heels coming I'm just triing them now oh
486
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no take them out of the tank not till
I'm sure they're dead oh for heaven's sakes
487
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:08,168
or the much beloved ham radio where Frasier stages a radio
play the grizzly business Miss thik I can't believe my
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girl could be a mob M but
the most fondly remembered of
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these episodes so much so that it's
the favorite of many fans is the ski lodge
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after Ros wins a freeze trip to a ski lodge Frasier convinced
cers to sell it to him so he takes Niles Martin Daffney
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and Daphne's friend Annie played by Cynthia L monang to
enjoy a ski trip complete with ski in trctor ghee played
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by James Patrick Stewart this episode
featured an elaborate Ski Lodge set one
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of only two that was so big it was built in front of the
main set of Fraser's apartment the basic idea of this episode
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is that everyone aside from Martin is attracted to another
person in that Ski Lodge only no one seems to know who is
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into who Frasier is into Annie Annie is into Niles Niles
is of course into Daphne Daphne is into gee and GE is into
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n some misunderstandings
lead to a few memorable
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moments Freer I'm sorry wrong
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00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:15,712
room ke you're not a crane I
want you're not even the sex I
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want all the lust
coursing through this lodge
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tonight all the hormones
virtually ricocheting off the
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walls and no one what's
chasing me it's all absurdly
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convoluted yet somehow still manages to work the writer for
the episode David Lee explains why this episode worked so
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well the motivations always have to be absolutely real it
helps if they come from the heart they can also come from
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lower on the anatomy which they often do but what really
gets the audience engaged is when they care about the
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characters in this case it was Niles's
feelings that you cared Niles and Daphne
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about Niles and Daphne are probably the most important
relationship in the series being the only long running story
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arc that lasts throughout the whole show and one that was
featured in its most watched episode Niles and Daphne first
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meet in the third episode of the series dinner at 8 although
Daphne happily acknowledges him Niles's reaction is a
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bit more extreme you're Dean why
yes I am when Fraser told me he' hired an
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English woman I pictured someone
a little more not quite so you're
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Dean the complication here is that Niles
is very much a married man to the Unseen
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Maris which doesn't stop him from making certain
overtures hi ho DNE you're looking luminous this
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evening well thank you Dr crane
what's in the bag uh just a little treat I
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picked up for Dad some deure clotted
cream Poor Dad and love Devon clotted
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cream isn't that lucky you two can share it the Niles and Daffney relationship
would continue like this in the early seasons of the show though at first it
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wasn't supposed to happen at all in interviews David Hy
Pierce would tell the story of how while doing press for
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the show before production began Jane leaves would mention the idea that
perhaps staf and Niles should get together this manifested on the writing
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side in its own way writer producer and flet gordano explains
an encounter with sirious producer Christopher Lloyd early
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in the first season Niles comes to the apartment Chris
realizing that Niles would be meeting dfy for the first time
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said what if he had a crazy crush on her and it was
here this multi-year Crush began with many delightful
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misunderstandings this is one of me psychic headaches
there's some kind of negative Force out there I only get
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these when there's a clawing at the cosmic
Continuum perhaps if someone rubbed your
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temples my goodness Dr crane shouldn't
you be out there mixing oh don't mind me
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I'm just getting some ice lovely party crane is
always dropping by and bringing me little gifts
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and he's not after
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anything although Charming in their execution there's something a bit
strange about a married man drilling over his father's physical therapist
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although it might make Niles appear like a brute to his
wife David Hyde Pierce performed the character in a way that
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made his love for Maris clear writer Joe Keenan explains no
matter how ludicrous our descriptions got David made Niles's
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feelings about the marriage very real he knew that if Niles didn't love Maris
there'd be no reason for us to Care when she divorced him or for Niles to feel
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conflicted and hide his love for Daphne that can be seen in
episodes such as una Affair To Forget Where Niles confronts
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maris's fening instructor gunar over an affair Nile suspects
gunar is having with Maris luckily for Niles he finds
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out Maris has remained
faithful oh but she refused him
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really the early flirtations between Niles and Daphne
with the Spectre of Maris around them in spite of that
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barrier to them being together there's still an obvious
chemistry between them in the first Seasons a midwinter Night
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Dream a storm traps Daffy at nil's Mansion while
Maris is in Arizona well it's not that bad a
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00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:15,900
storm oh Maris I really
think you should come
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home no no well of course I don't want you traveling if
it's if it's not safe as Comforts Daphne after a recent
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breakup things get
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[Music] heated Dr creane
your glocken Spiel is
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sprung to
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life oh the clock Maris
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you really love her
don't you you know I
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do love is a funny thing isn't it
sometimes it's exciting and passionate
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and sometimes it's something else
something comfortable and familiar
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David Hy Pierce describes Niles's attraction to Daphney
saying I think she's just an exotic flower to him and
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she's so beautiful and it's so unusual for him to be treated
by a woman with such friendliness that he's overwhelmed
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by that openess because Maris is so manipulative and
difficult Niles and maris's marriage over the years
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deteriorates leading to separation and then eventually divorce
it never sounded particularly happy but whatever it was
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was enough for Niles that is until the arrival of Daphne
which introduced something new and different to him at
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first it could simply be the echo of a wealthy man L seen
after a woman of a lower class A Very Old Trope and seen in
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classic works of literature such as Pamela class has a very
strange place in this relationship though as we never see
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Niles consider Daphne beneath him rather he just seems her
as different and enticing the timing of Niles and maris's
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divorce a few years after the arrival of Daphne does suggest
that the idea of something more may have fueled its end
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at some level but the series never makes That explicit the
closest sign we get is when during his separation Niles takes
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Daphne to a ball in the episode Moon dance what started
off as an evening to show Niles's friends he wasn't sulking
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over Maris become something more than
that let it out Niles let everything out
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oh Dy I adore [Music]
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you I adore you too
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what Niles is on the cusp of getting swept away with Daphne
until he learns the truth I knew you were a good dancer
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but I had no idea you
were such a good actor
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actor DNE you're a goddess daffne I
adore you we fooled everyone didn't we
562
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:05,733
oh oh we certainly
did didn't we a crucial
563
00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:13,976
part of this episode is that Niles brought Daphne to
impress his snoody high society friends the idea that Niles
564
00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:20,976
would show up with someone of a lower class to impress a bunch of snobs
doesn't really make sense though it does reveal that when it comes to Daphne n
565
00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:26,976
sees her for more than who she is in her social standing
her being a beautiful woman I'm sure helps as well although
566
00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:31,976
Niles clearly has romantic feelings for Daphne part of
what keeps it from getting too creepy is that ultimately he
567
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:37,976
cares about her as a person he may want to be with her but
he also wants her to be happy before his divorce with Maris
568
00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:43,976
we see this in the episode Kisses Sweeter than Wine
Niles reluctantly helps stafne connect with his handyman
569
00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:47,264
Joe thanks staff oh I got
a spark me too that's just
570
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:55,568
static electricity from the carpet can happen
to anyone if you had ever smelled her hair
571
00:59:57,000 --> 01:00:03,400
you'd know she's worth at least one more try Joe
told me what you did I think that's the nicest thing
572
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:08,544
anyone's ever done for me thank you
oh did you feel that we made a spark
573
01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:15,736
oh yes we did I guess you were right
it is just the carpet next season when
574
01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:21,976
Daphne breaks up with Joe for good the separated Niles and
daffany have a nice talk I would have said is this seat
575
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:27,056
taken and you would have said no and you
would have said my name is Daphne and I
576
01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:31,392
would have said my name is
Niles and then I would have
577
01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:39,056
said what are you doing for the rest of
your life you always know just the right
578
01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:41,933
thing to say oh I love you Dr
579
01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:51,976
crane I love you too Deanie unrequited love is
one of the oldest tropes in English literature it
580
01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:57,976
can be traced back to the medieval concept of courtly love which would
often entail a man's desire for an unavailable woman although when it comes
581
01:00:58,000 --> 01:01:03,976
to women of a lower class whether or not she's unavailable
never quite enters into the equation in this instance it
582
01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:09,976
actually subverts that expectation Niles doesn't see Daphne
as a lower class woman he can take advantage of but as an
583
01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:15,976
equal or someone even greater than himself it's a bit strange
to square the idea that Daphne who clearly understands
584
01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:20,976
and cares for Niles as a friend is still somehow oblivious
to his attraction towards her Jane leaves explains why
585
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:27,976
from her own perspective you know I've always played that she knows somewhere
in the back of it head but it's too scary to deal with cuz he's Niles and
586
01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:35,552
he's you know Posh and and he had Maris and money and you
know what's he doing going for a Girl Like DNE this old Trope
587
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:41,976
of pining for an oblivious woman can create many great
episodes and moments as the series so easily demonstrates but
588
01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:47,976
it does also carry with it a more pernicious element and that's the
objectification of Daphne by objectification I don't mean in the more
589
01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:52,976
commonly understood sense of highlighted a woman's
physical form over her character Daphne wasn't really
590
01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:58,976
objectified in that way at least not that often what I
mean is all those delightful moments where Nile SPS over
591
01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:04,976
an oblivious dhany are effectively removing her from the
scene as a full character let me show you it's all in
592
01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:12,040
the tongue that's right just purse your lips and Puck
her up like a little goldfish I'll it just like that very
593
01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:15,000
good you got
594
01:02:21,000 --> 01:02:24,136
it NES what are you doing
I'm learning how to blow
595
01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:32,976
smoke where when Niles and Daphne have one of these cute
little moments there are two conversations happening the
596
01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:38,976
obvious one in which Daphne is showing Niles how to blow a
smoke ring and the subtextual one of Niles getting turned
597
01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:43,976
on by Daphne in many of these moments these scenes don't
just include Daphne and Niles but also have Frasier Martin
598
01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:49,976
present to underscore what's going on it isn't just
Niles drifting off into a world of fantasy it's a secret
599
01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:55,976
conversation happening between the crane men even a
conversation that's little more than a few weighted Clans es
600
01:02:56,000 --> 01:03:01,976
looking at the two layers of these moments Niles and the
other man operate on both while daap only operates on one
601
01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:07,976
in that second later she is present but not as an active
participant but rather an unthinking element to be played
602
01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:14,976
against like a prop or an object the show itself acknowledges
this dynamic in the episode perspectives on Christmas
603
01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:21,976
where each of the characters describe a disastrous Christmas from their own
points of view here's how Martin observed one of those moments afternoon
604
01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:26,544
all hello D oh that's awfully dangerous
Daphne standing there under that
605
01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:32,824
mistletoe enough eggnog and here's how that
same moment played out from Daphne's perspective
606
01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:38,736
afternoon all hello d d That's awfully
dangerous Daphne standing under that
607
01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:43,928
mistletoe a piece could fall into your
eye let me fres your drink and the show
608
01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:49,976
certainly doesn't shy away from making fun of her with
moments like this you know it's always so obvious when a man
609
01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:53,776
likes a woman you can just tell
by his awkward body language
610
01:03:55,000 --> 01:04:01,400
shifting in his chair he doesn't know quite what to
do with his hands he's as nervous as a hen oh for
611
01:04:04,000 --> 01:04:09,976
God's sake stop fidgeting in the early Seasons this was
a common trend for Daphne unfortunately she was such a
612
01:04:10,000 --> 01:04:14,976
charmingly offbeat character that existed purely as you
saw her without much of an interior life even stories
613
01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:20,976
that focused on her such as her having her boyfriend spend the night at
Fraser's apartment with her ended up becoming stories more focused on other
614
01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:26,976
characters in this case Frasier and his anxiety about
Daphne having a man over this can be seen in a comment from
615
01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:32,976
Christopher Lloyd he's describing why Niles and Daphne
work as a couple I thought could it be because she's so
616
01:04:33,000 --> 01:04:37,976
different than he is he's upper class and she's working
class she says what's on her mind and he's restrained and
617
01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:42,976
thoughtful Jane Le did have some say in making daphia more
interesting character over the years even filling in some of
618
01:04:43,000 --> 01:04:48,976
her backstory she explained in an interview dafine was
like a pair of comfy shoes she had a sort of earthiness
619
01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:54,976
and honesty that definitely came from me I told the writers that a girl who's
comfortable around these men who doesn't take any of their crap must come from
620
01:04:55,000 --> 01:05:00,976
household filled with men in one of the more ironic twists
of the series by being actively pursued by Niles instead
621
01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:05,976
of him just loving her from afar Daphne started to become
a more well-rounded character as Niles's divorce with Maris
622
01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:10,976
starts to get messy he decides to change his legal
representation from a high price Law Firm to one of R's
623
01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:17,976
ex-boyfriends Donnie Douglas played by Saul Ruben and
while he offers an immediate reversal of Fortune for nil's
624
01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:23,976
finances netting him a nice settlement Donnie's presence
also has another unexpected consequence who understands
625
01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:29,440
why anything happens I mean it's remarkable
how completely one's life can change in an
626
01:05:31,000 --> 01:05:37,976
instant poor NES it's over the next season and a half
things start getting messy with Donnie and Daphne getting
627
01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:44,976
engaged and Nile starting to date Mel played by Jane Adams
a plastic surgeon who had worked extensively on Maris you
628
01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:49,032
must think I'm terribly fussy yes
one day though a pulled muscle
629
01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:54,352
in Fraser's back changes everything
what's the matter my back oh it's
630
01:05:58,000 --> 01:06:03,976
completely seized up while he sit in in on of all
places Martin's chair Frasier ruminates about his
631
01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:07,520
life I really do love Daphne
a terrified Daphne tries to
632
01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:12,800
confirm the issue with
Martin it's about Dr
633
01:06:15,000 --> 01:06:20,312
crane I overheard him say he's in love with
me what and he wants to show me how much
634
01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:28,912
he loves me while he still has the chance oh jeez not
is you knew about this I'm not getting in the middle of
635
01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:33,976
this then it's true look I kept my mouth
shut for 6 years I'm not saying anything
636
01:06:34,000 --> 01:06:39,976
after taking some medication Frasier asks stafanie for
a massage which gets pretty awkward but eventually the
637
01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:46,976
misunderstanding is partially revealed you you see when
I said how much I I cared about you I didn't mean it in a
638
01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:52,504
romantic sense then you don't love me oh no
of course I love you Deanie but as a friend
639
01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:57,904
that's all oh oh oh thank God
and everything is fine until the
640
01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:05,864
meds Fraser Tu start to kick in when I
said to your father Dr Crane's In Love
641
01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:10,864
with me he said it's been going on for
six years now what did he mean by that
642
01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:13,360
oh was that he me
643
01:07:18,000 --> 01:07:19,867
NES what no he's crazy about
644
01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:29,976
you Fraser doesn't remember spilling the beans and it appears
daap has learned the truth with everyone else none the
645
01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:34,992
wiser but Niles is a little more astute
than everyone else good evening Dean Dr
646
01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:42,416
crane you look different somehow
have you done something new with your
647
01:07:43,000 --> 01:07:47,608
hair oh oh that must be it while dating
Donnie daffany had gradually been
648
01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:54,976
revealing more of herself we learned more about her life
in Manchester and about the things that made her happy but
649
01:07:55,000 --> 01:07:59,976
this is the moment that really made her come to life as a
character maybe it's the simple fact that having a secret
650
01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:04,976
reveals an interior life and one that puts her on par
with the other characters around her in some ways it
651
01:08:05,000 --> 01:08:09,976
even gives her an edge since they don't know that she knows
the truth about Niles's feelings for her we can see that
652
01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:15,976
inversion very clearly in moments where Dy and Niles have
their roles reversed in those little moments of subtext you
653
01:08:16,000 --> 01:08:23,168
have to be careful those pen handles get awfully hot well
not anymore it's got a protective coating of skin on it
654
01:08:25,000 --> 01:08:27,600
just give it a minute
to absorb it'll be
655
01:08:30,000 --> 01:08:32,200
fine feeling better
already thanks
656
01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:40,800
G hey what's up nothing it's fitting
that Niles being an old handed this can
657
01:08:42,000 --> 01:08:48,976
sense something as a mess I burned my hand while I was
cooking and she began putting first aid cream on it in a a
658
01:08:49,000 --> 01:08:53,800
very tender way and then uh dad came
in and she jumped as if she felt guilty
659
01:08:55,000 --> 01:08:58,264
is it possible Daphne has
feelings for me [Laughter]
660
01:09:02,000 --> 01:09:08,976
no oh well as long as you've considered it from all angles
things finally reach a boiling point with the season 7 finale
661
01:09:09,000 --> 01:09:14,976
and two-parter Something Borrowed someone blue Daphne's
wetty and is fast approaching and she needs to get some
662
01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:19,800
things off her chest it's about your
brother you see I know know what I know
663
01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:25,072
about his feelings for me
my God how did you find
664
01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:32,467
out who was the Ning
gossip RZ dad you
665
01:09:35,000 --> 01:09:40,976
what you were taking those pills for your back and you
blurted it out while I was giving you a massage oh well they
666
01:09:41,000 --> 01:09:45,736
were very strong pilles here after a
while I couldn't put it out of my mind
667
01:09:46,000 --> 01:09:49,392
anymore I found myself
thinking about him all the time
668
01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:58,440
DNE are you saying that you you have feelings
for Niles I think I do unfortunately for
669
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:06,208
Daphne Niles and Mel have some news of their own
we can't keep something like this a secret we got
670
01:10:09,000 --> 01:10:15,912
married did you before the wedding Frasier notices how
Niles and Daphne look at one another and he decides to
671
01:10:16,000 --> 01:10:19,520
confront Niles she knows what
Daphne knows that you have
672
01:10:21,000 --> 01:10:26,976
feelings for her she's known for some time I knew you thought
my marriage to me was Hasty but to poison it like this
673
01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:32,976
I'm not going to listen to this NES defitely feels the
same way about you she told me as much the other day
674
01:10:33,000 --> 01:10:38,976
and then she denied it once you got married but I
saw the way she was looking at you downstairs just
675
01:10:39,000 --> 01:10:45,400
now oh my God NES I'm not in the habit of breaking
up people's marriages but how could I not tell you
676
01:10:46,000 --> 01:10:52,976
you're my brother I love you this gives Niles the courage
to finally tell Daphne the truth Daphne I'm glad he told me
677
01:10:53,000 --> 01:10:56,520
because I love you meant
what I said when I said I would
678
01:10:59,000 --> 01:11:03,864
leave her that's crazy no no it's not
crazy if you feel the same way I do but
679
01:11:05,000 --> 01:11:08,648
I need you to tell me and I
can accept it if the answer is
680
01:11:11,000 --> 01:11:14,584
no how do you feel about
me and minutes later she finally
681
01:11:16,000 --> 01:11:19,584
responds you know a lot of
times oh for God sake Dr to CR
682
01:11:34,000 --> 01:11:38,288
I think you can call me Niles now
although the episode seemed to end
683
01:11:40,000 --> 01:11:45,952
with Daphney deciding she can't leave Donnie
luckily for all of us we still got a happy ending
684
01:11:47,000 --> 01:11:50,328
hello defy I was wondering
if you might be free for a
685
01:11:54,000 --> 01:11:57,008
date my God yes after
seven long years of seeing
686
01:11:59,000 --> 01:12:03,976
Niles and Daphne go from Awkward flotation to a romantic
Escape it felt as though this story was reaching its
687
01:12:04,000 --> 01:12:09,976
Climax and that was reflected in the ratings as this was
the most watched episode of Frasier seen by nearly 34
688
01:12:10,000 --> 01:12:15,976
million people in the United States Christopher Lloyd
explains this moment when Niles kisses Daphne for the first
689
01:12:16,000 --> 01:12:21,976
time it gave me goosebumps I'd live with these characters for
so long as did the audience and wanted that moment for them
690
01:12:22,000 --> 01:12:27,976
and David Hy Pierce shares his experience of the moment saying the the live
audience's reaction when we kissed showed how completely involved they had
691
01:12:28,000 --> 01:12:33,976
become with these madeup people's lives and how much they
wanted them to get together love stories often don't extend
692
01:12:34,000 --> 01:12:40,976
beyond the moment when two people finally get together and we simply expect
them to live happily ever after but love isn't so simple in real life
693
01:12:41,000 --> 01:12:45,976
and sometimes the hardest stories to tell aren't about
how a couple gets together but rather how that couple
694
01:12:46,000 --> 01:12:51,976
stays together the moment when Daffy and is get together is
often cited as where Frasier starts going downhill and while
695
01:12:52,000 --> 01:12:57,976
ratings did begin to decline I would argue the quality
was still certainly there only we weren't getting any more
696
01:12:58,000 --> 01:13:03,976
of those moments of hidden desire leading to a comedic misunderstanding we were
going to see how this couple dealt with the idea of changing their lives on
697
01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:09,976
the spot for a chance at a love that might only come once
in a lifetime sir co-creator David Lee elaborates when n
698
01:13:10,000 --> 01:13:15,976
and dney finally got together there was a certain tension
gone that had been sustaining the series in ways we didn't
699
01:13:16,000 --> 01:13:20,976
understand when the eighth season began it picked up right
where the finale left off with Niles and Daphne figuring out
700
01:13:21,000 --> 01:13:27,976
how to navigate lives they had just destroyed leaving your fiance on your
wedding day and divorcing your wife on the fourth day of marriage does create
701
01:13:28,000 --> 01:13:33,976
some feelings of resentment these obstacles would be dealt with over the next
couple of episodes but I want to highlight another important moment would
702
01:13:34,000 --> 01:13:41,424
you like some Sherry uh yes thanks DNE yeah all right I'll
get your precious wedge of Brie and your water crackers no
703
01:13:42,000 --> 01:13:47,056
I meant would you like some Sherry oh
lome thanks although Daphne had been close
704
01:13:50,000 --> 01:13:54,976
with the cranes it's only now we see her being treated more
like family it's also a clear indicator that Fraser sees her
705
01:13:55,000 --> 01:14:00,976
as an equal she effectively marries into a higher class the
episode even ends with Martin and Frasier putting together
706
01:14:01,000 --> 01:14:05,976
a special dinner for the new couple the biggest challenge
to the Niles and Daphne relationship is how devoid it is
707
01:14:06,000 --> 01:14:11,976
of any real tension that it might end no one can doubt for
a second that Niles is hopelessly devoted to her and Daphne
708
01:14:12,000 --> 01:14:16,976
seems to be quite taken with him as well this show plays a
little with this idea when the stress of living up to n's
709
01:14:17,000 --> 01:14:21,976
expectations leads Daphney to gain a significant amount of
weight behind the scenes this was done to accommodate Jane
710
01:14:22,000 --> 01:14:29,976
leaves' pregnancy but it did raise some interest questions but how two people
can date when so much of it is based on a love that was built on years of pining
711
01:14:30,000 --> 01:14:35,976
how can reality ever live up to that when you and I first
came together we decided to wait and get to know each
712
01:14:36,000 --> 01:14:41,976
other before bringing the relationship into the bedroom
then as time went on you told me all these stories about how
713
01:14:42,000 --> 01:14:46,736
you'd pined for me for seven years
how I'd been your unobtainable dream how
714
01:14:47,000 --> 01:14:53,976
could anybody live up to that although Niles takes this
Revelation personally and the two have their first fight they
715
01:14:54,000 --> 01:14:58,976
reconcile before the end of the episode and the two managed
to stay together for the rest of the series the episodes for
716
01:14:59,000 --> 01:15:04,976
Niles and Daphne that stand out the most are like this one
though ones where tension arises and the relationship is
717
01:15:05,000 --> 01:15:09,976
threatened but at this point in the series it's Unthinkable
that these two would ever break up and what tension is
718
01:15:10,000 --> 01:15:16,976
created is undercut because of that there's no will they
or won't they it's very clear that they will and have in
719
01:15:17,000 --> 01:15:23,976
the same way Niles is utterly committed to Daphne the show is utterly committed
to making this relationship work spending years showing how Niles Longs
720
01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:29,976
for her using moment to reveal how good the two of them are together and
revealing how much they've always cared for one another although it's certainly
721
01:15:30,000 --> 01:15:35,976
possible to tell interesting stories but how a couple stays together the
series haded The added pressure of years of buildup that might have felt like a
722
01:15:36,000 --> 01:15:41,976
cruel tease had Niles and Daffney broken up a year or two
after getting together by season 9 in the episode The Proposal
723
01:15:42,000 --> 01:15:44,200
we get exactly
that will you marry
724
01:15:47,000 --> 01:15:49,533
me oh Niles of
course I will instead of
725
01:15:53,000 --> 01:15:58,760
a big lavish wedding Niles and D end up eloping
in Las Vegas he never said you may kiss the
726
01:15:59,000 --> 01:16:00,680
bride you may kiss the
727
01:16:05,000 --> 01:16:10,976
bride the threats to Niles and Daphne are often external
to the relationship such as when nil faces a medical
728
01:16:11,000 --> 01:16:16,976
emergency and is rushed to the hospital for an operation
there is an anomaly in your EKG I'm going to have to check you
729
01:16:17,000 --> 01:16:19,944
into the hospital oh uh
well H uh I guess I can
730
01:16:22,000 --> 01:16:27,696
clear my schedule uh how's uh how's tomorrow
afternoon no no no Niles you need to go right
731
01:16:29,000 --> 01:16:34,976
now there's also the return of Maris who re-enters n's
life after she accidentally murders her D boyfriend
732
01:16:35,000 --> 01:16:41,976
with a crossbow have just arrested Seattle socialite meis
crane for the murder of her lover Argentine polo star
733
01:16:42,000 --> 01:16:47,976
estan Rojo the Niles and Daphne relationship is one that
was defined by tension and once that inner tension was
734
01:16:48,000 --> 01:16:52,976
resolved went on to face a series of tensions from outside
the relationship always chasing that earlier feeling
735
01:16:53,000 --> 01:16:58,976
although Niles and dafne are lovely together their onscreen
Dynamic only occasionally explored that relationship
736
01:16:59,000 --> 01:17:04,976
instead we had exes near-death experiences and murder
threatening to tear these two apart although Daphne and
737
01:17:05,000 --> 01:17:09,976
Niles had grown so much to be together their relationship
never quite managed to do the same when people say Frasier
738
01:17:10,000 --> 01:17:14,976
changed after Niles and dfan got together they're right
and change doesn't have to be a bad thing but when
739
01:17:15,000 --> 01:17:21,976
you go to a show in part for the exciting romantic tension
and it's all gone you can't help but feel as though
740
01:17:22,000 --> 01:17:27,976
something has been lost and the new thing might appear
if it seems to be an imitation of the old thing there is
741
01:17:28,000 --> 01:17:34,912
something to be said for seeing a happy couple together
instead of one in constant conflict it just wasn't as
742
01:17:35,000 --> 01:17:40,976
enthralling as the pursuit it also highlights another
way in which class manifests itself in the series Daphne
743
01:17:41,000 --> 01:17:46,976
and Niles on paper shouldn't work he's a rich psychiatrist
and she's a kooky physical therapist but it does work in
744
01:17:47,000 --> 01:17:53,976
spite of this class divide and it serves as a reminder that true love is possible
when you're willing to ignore the things that don't matter in this case social
745
01:17:54,000 --> 01:17:59,976
class because doing so opens a door to meeting someone
who represents a whole new world of possibilities Jane Le
746
01:18:00,000 --> 01:18:05,976
describes it she is the complete opposite of anything
he's ever known she's grounded and down to earth and
747
01:18:06,000 --> 01:18:12,976
that's just not the sort of person he's used to she's not out for herself
like everybody else she's there to help others and it turns him on to see her
748
01:18:13,000 --> 01:18:18,976
rooting around under the sink and fixing things the only real journey left for
them to take together is the one to Parenthood this isn't the ovulation kit
749
01:18:19,000 --> 01:18:22,328
it's the pregnancy test oh
silly me they look so much
750
01:18:27,000 --> 01:18:32,976
we're pregnant although this is Daphne's first child in a way
this is Nile's the second though the show never did answer
751
01:18:33,000 --> 01:18:37,736
what happened to that little bag of
flow oh dear but Eddie that dingo's got
752
01:18:41,000 --> 01:18:43,900
your baby oh God or
maybe we do Representation
753
01:18:47,000 --> 01:18:49,900
[Music] know Frasier
was rightfully lauded as
754
01:18:53,000 --> 01:18:58,976
having a very strong record on depicting gay characters
often tackling stereotypes headon David Hy Pierce
755
01:18:59,000 --> 01:19:04,976
explains it was never jokes at the expense of gay people
we had gay people on staff David Lee one of the creators
756
01:19:05,000 --> 01:19:10,976
on the show is gay and so to me it was always
acknowledging the preposterousness of stereotypes this
757
01:19:11,000 --> 01:19:15,976
Dynamic was well explained in Matt bomb's excellent video
Frasier and sitcoms of the gay90s so give it a watch
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01:19:16,000 --> 01:19:21,976
if you'd like to learn more about that instead I'd like to talk about
some other forms of representation on the series NBC's lined up of sitcoms
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01:19:22,000 --> 01:19:28,976
throughout much of the 9s which pry was a part of on
Thursday's nights was overwhelmingly white and this wasn't an
760
01:19:29,000 --> 01:19:33,976
accident one of the executive producers of The Fresh
Prince ofir Andy burwitz described what it was like to be
761
01:19:34,000 --> 01:19:39,976
producing one of the few sitcoms for NBC on prime time that
had a black cast the knee-jerk response in the network was
762
01:19:40,000 --> 01:19:45,976
maybe we need more cast members on the show they never said
white but curiously all the characters they proposed were
763
01:19:46,000 --> 01:19:51,976
white they believed a white audience wouldn't watch a black
show this came after programs including The Cosby Show
764
01:19:52,000 --> 01:19:56,976
and The Jeffersons demonstrated the opposite but with
cable channels attracting more of that TV audience big
765
01:19:57,000 --> 01:20:01,976
networks such as NBC started trying to appeal more to that
white audience the only way they knew how making shows
766
01:20:02,000 --> 01:20:07,976
predominantly featuring white people none of this is to
say that Frasier was a show built specifically to appeal to
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01:20:08,000 --> 01:20:13,976
white people but it's certainly a fact that its makeup was
a perfect fit for NBC reflected in as simple a change as
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01:20:14,000 --> 01:20:19,976
suggesting the Latina housekeeper on the show's original
pitch instead be an englishwoman Frasier had a strange
769
01:20:20,000 --> 01:20:26,976
relationship with race in that it says very little about it
and the one time it does we get the episode something about
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01:20:27,000 --> 01:20:32,976
Dr Mary in this episode Frasier's temporary replacement
for Ros Mary played by Kim Kohl's starts getting too
771
01:20:33,000 --> 01:20:37,976
comfortable participating in the show and Fraser feels
too awkward to tell her to ease up a little I know why you
772
01:20:38,000 --> 01:20:44,976
didn't say anything cuz she's black oh that's ridiculous
dad race has nothing to do with it oh come now Frasier can't
773
01:20:45,000 --> 01:20:51,976
deny a certain measure of guilt living as you do in your
exclusive Lily white World interestingly enough in this
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01:20:52,000 --> 01:20:57,976
season 7 episode the first one to ever never mentioned race
we get this line you know fras such a thing as being too
775
01:20:58,000 --> 01:21:03,976
sensitive about this stuff a scene with three white men
talking about how perhaps white people are being too
776
01:21:04,000 --> 01:21:09,976
sensitive about racial issues is a very '90s moment we also
have Frasier acting out a paranoid white guy fantasy of what
777
01:21:10,000 --> 01:21:15,056
it's like to disagree with a black woman
so you want me to stay in my place Mass
778
01:21:20,000 --> 01:21:26,848
her she's not going to say m what am I getting too upy
for you you Sherry willing Opera loving Armon wearing
779
01:21:27,000 --> 01:21:31,992
elitist you have no idea how difficult
it is for a black woman in a white man's
780
01:21:36,000 --> 01:21:40,096
world Frasier I don't think so
eventually Frasier comes clean and
781
01:21:41,000 --> 01:21:47,208
confesses the truth to Mary who of course takes
it all in stride why didn't you just say something
782
01:21:48,000 --> 01:21:50,667
before well it's
because you're black and
783
01:21:55,000 --> 01:22:01,784
the truth is I I was afraid that if I if I said something
critical of you you you might react the wrong way
784
01:22:02,000 --> 01:22:07,976
and I feel just terrible about it all ends well as Mary's
interjections made her so popular she's offered her own
785
01:22:08,000 --> 01:22:14,976
show a show with a white cast talking about race isn't
impossible to do well a few years prior Roseanne did a masterful
786
01:22:15,000 --> 01:22:20,976
job with white men can't kiss Frasier is a sad reminder though
that these topics can be clumsily handled in the hands of
787
01:22:21,000 --> 01:22:25,976
a creative team completely divorced from the experiences
they're speaking to though it does reflect quite nicely the
788
01:22:26,000 --> 01:22:31,976
misplaced anxieties certain white people might feel when
discussing race the show did fa slightly better over the years
789
01:22:32,000 --> 01:22:36,976
introducing the less stereotypical character of Cam Winston
and having his mother Kora have a brief relationship
790
01:22:37,000 --> 01:22:42,976
with Martin but these are characters for whom race is
incidental and they neatly fit into Frasier's upper class World
791
01:22:43,000 --> 01:22:48,976
another uncomfortable blind spot is the character of Maris
which only makes sense because we never see her the show
792
01:22:49,000 --> 01:22:53,976
goes out of its way to describe how odd she is being an
ays who is constantly engaging in surgeries and beauty
793
01:22:54,000 --> 01:23:00,976
treatments to keep herself looking young and beautiful in
the episode to thine old self be true we find out Maris has
794
01:23:01,000 --> 01:23:05,976
been struggling with an eating disorder Maris was always
chubby as a child her whole life she's been obsessed with
795
01:23:06,000 --> 01:23:12,976
keeping weight off the episode includes much discussion about how Maris has
gained so much weight that she's gone from dangerously thin to Dangerously
796
01:23:13,000 --> 01:23:18,976
overweight in both cases it's played for a laugh something
must have snapped but literally when she saw me she swallowed
797
01:23:19,000 --> 01:23:24,976
and her necklace exploded from the pressure not being
able to see Maris has always made it easy to create this
798
01:23:25,000 --> 01:23:30,976
bizarre entity to drive comedy but if we could see her in
this moment eating away her misery that Niles has moved on
799
01:23:31,000 --> 01:23:36,976
without her I imagine we'd probably feel more pity than
anything else it puts in Stark relief all the other times Maris
800
01:23:37,000 --> 01:23:43,976
was described as being too light to leave footprints in the snow or her
weight being so small in her youth that Frasier is amazed she was even alive a
801
01:23:44,000 --> 01:23:48,976
person that small and frail probably wouldn't be nearly as
funny if you saw her in the flesh and you could see what
802
01:23:49,000 --> 01:23:54,976
her eating disorder is doing to her this along with Frasier's
record on Race underscores one of the the sad truths
803
01:23:55,000 --> 01:23:59,976
about the series it's a show about white men that struggles
to see anything outside that perspective and by not
804
01:24:00,000 --> 01:24:04,976
acknowledging those other perspectives makes hay out of
struggles that feel like laughing down what keeps these
805
01:24:05,000 --> 01:24:10,976
episodes from getting too uncomfortable is how class acts
as something of a barrier to disguise what's happening in
806
01:24:11,000 --> 01:24:15,976
something about Dr Mary it can be argued that the comedy
comes from Frasier's lack of perspective outside of his upper
807
01:24:16,000 --> 01:24:21,976
class world even if the Mary character reads like a stereotype
in the case of Maris her obscene wealth makes her far
808
01:24:22,000 --> 01:24:27,976
less empathetic a character even though her disorder is
incredibly tragic in both cases it's the status of the
809
01:24:28,000 --> 01:24:34,976
characters that informs the audience that it's okay to laugh at what's
happening it's another way in which class is a barrier to feeling empathy Roz
810
01:24:35,000 --> 01:24:40,976
something core to the character or Frasier I'm certainly
not saying we shouldn't laugh at the rich imp powerful
811
01:24:41,000 --> 01:24:46,976
in fact i' say we should ER on the side of laughing at them
more but it is worth considering why we're laughing whether
812
01:24:47,000 --> 01:24:52,976
it's for the silly excesses of the wealthy or the
problems that impact people across class lines
813
01:24:53,000 --> 01:24:54,000
[Music]
814
01:24:58,000 --> 01:25:03,976
Ros Doyle is a tough character to pin down particularly
in the beginning of the series Frasier needed someone to
815
01:25:04,000 --> 01:25:08,976
interact with as part of his radio show but only a few
small details about the character really existed when Perry
816
01:25:09,000 --> 01:25:13,976
Gilpin got the role she was told by the creative team that
they weren't really sure who Ros was as a character leaving
817
01:25:14,000 --> 01:25:19,976
her wide open to the actress's interpretation guilpin
once said in an interview I imagined Ros constantly
818
01:25:20,000 --> 01:25:24,976
trying to live up to a forceful mother actually based a lot
of her on a really good friend of mine she's super smart
819
01:25:25,000 --> 01:25:30,976
self- dependent sexually adventurous and honest about it
although this might have let her devolve into a cliche she
820
01:25:31,000 --> 01:25:35,976
managed to be a sexually active career woman without
becoming a negative stereotype in the episode raw in the
821
01:25:36,000 --> 01:25:42,976
doghouse we see Bulldog the Perpetual sexual harasser at the
station appeal to Ros for her producing talents I did not
822
01:25:43,000 --> 01:25:48,120
sleep with bulldog he didn't even hit on
me I did want something though wanted me
823
01:25:49,000 --> 01:25:53,544
to leave you and come be his new
producer well I wonder why he said that
824
01:25:56,000 --> 01:26:01,976
eventually we find out Frasier's suspicions to be true
and Ros is quick to stand up to Bulldog get out I ask you
825
01:26:02,000 --> 01:26:08,976
here to work you disgusting horor hey hey hey you're going
to have to slow down I'm getting some mixed signals here
826
01:26:09,000 --> 01:26:14,976
the lesson almost learned here was for Frasier to respect
the talent of his producer as we did see how talented Ros
827
01:26:15,000 --> 01:26:19,976
was in helping improve Bulldog show but it's undercut
by the reality that in spite of her skills Ros was still
828
01:26:20,000 --> 01:26:26,976
reduced to her sexual appeal by both of her bosses this is something of a
running theme for the character in the early seasons and while it puts her on
829
01:26:27,000 --> 01:26:31,976
par with Frasier and Niles who often end up being humiliated
by people who know better it hits a bit different when it's
830
01:26:32,000 --> 01:26:37,976
someone who doesn't have the same degree of power or status
of all the characters on the show it's Ros who is the most
831
01:26:38,000 --> 01:26:42,976
detached from the rest of the cast much like Daphne in the
earlier Seasons Ros isn't highlighted the way many of the
832
01:26:43,000 --> 01:26:48,976
crane men are sometimes reduced to only having one or two
scenes in an episode unlike Daphne she doesn't get the same
833
01:26:49,000 --> 01:26:53,976
opportunity of character growth when she becomes involved
with Niles often leaving RW as the odd one out the most
834
01:26:54,000 --> 01:27:00,976
meaningful connection RZ has to the rest of the cast is her friendship with
Frasier although this does get teased as them being more than friends multiple
835
01:27:01,000 --> 01:27:04,648
times you know maybe if we
both went into it with our eyes
836
01:27:11,000 --> 01:27:16,056
open what am I say crazy aside from one
night where they hook up the two of them
837
01:27:17,000 --> 01:27:21,976
never come close to anything romantic the relationship
simply works best with them being friends the friendship
838
01:27:22,000 --> 01:27:27,976
between Ros and Frasier is a bit different not just because
of the class divide but because Frasier is ros' boss
839
01:27:28,000 --> 01:27:33,976
it leads to some strange moments such as the episode Ros
alone where Fraser loans Ross of money and then becomes very
840
01:27:34,000 --> 01:27:39,976
judgmental when he sees how she spends it I don't want to
talk to her about it I have to for God sake the rate she's
841
01:27:40,000 --> 01:27:45,976
spending she's going to be out of money before we're back to work you know and
frankly I'm just a little bit annoyed with the way she keeps flaunting it in
842
01:27:46,000 --> 01:27:50,736
my face expensive lunches needless
extravagances frankly I think the entire
843
01:27:52,000 --> 01:27:57,976
thing's just a bit insensitive don't you dafhne is luckily
there to point out how Frasier's loan of $1,500 contrasts his
844
01:27:58,000 --> 01:28:02,800
usual spending habits are the cigars
Cuban are the Tulips Dutch oh good news
845
01:28:04,000 --> 01:28:09,568
my personal shopper just found a dozen antique
pudding plates who has 12 people over for
846
01:28:11,000 --> 01:28:15,928
pudding so you gave poor Ros a bit of
money it hasn't changed your life has it
847
01:28:16,000 --> 01:28:21,976
you Sherry swilling fagra munching hypocrite it's also
worth mentioning that RW being on Hard Times is because
848
01:28:22,000 --> 01:28:28,976
Frasier got her and and everyone else at kacl fired when he
made a stand against the station manager Frasier eventually
849
01:28:29,000 --> 01:28:34,976
confronts Ros butter spending habits excuse me but weren't
you the one that said I could spend it any way I wanted
850
01:28:35,000 --> 01:28:39,976
well I just thought you were going to be a little more
responsible than that oh so now I'm irresponsible no no I'm just
851
01:28:40,000 --> 01:28:45,976
even their reconciliation is kind of weird as Roos is
forced to listen to Fraser's apology because she's his
852
01:28:46,000 --> 01:28:52,976
producer and he's doing it on the air it's not an exaggeration
to say I put my career in this woman's hands every day
853
01:28:53,000 --> 01:28:56,648
and never lets me down on
to the show if I'm a bit Rusty I
854
01:28:59,000 --> 01:29:01,667
hope you'll forgive
me after all to ER is
855
01:29:06,000 --> 01:29:13,040
human I hope you'll look into your hearts all right Fraser
you're forgiven oh good these power dynamics come up
856
01:29:14,000 --> 01:29:18,976
several times throughout the series Frasier and Ros are
absolutely friends but they aren't quite on the same level
857
01:29:19,000 --> 01:29:23,976
the tension in this relationship always seems to come from
the fact that Frasier has power over rod and reveals the
858
01:29:24,000 --> 01:29:29,976
Perils of friendships within hierarchies it's not as simple
as saying no one can ever be friends with their boss that's
859
01:29:30,000 --> 01:29:34,976
obviously not true rather what the series suggests is
that this Dynamic presents a barrier or obstacle in that
860
01:29:35,000 --> 01:29:40,976
friendship in season 9 Ros meets Roger a man who would be
one of her longest romantic Partners on the show there are
861
01:29:41,000 --> 01:29:46,976
some Echoes of class in that relationship as Roger is
a garbage man something that at first embarrasses Ros
862
01:29:47,000 --> 01:29:52,976
but over time she learns to accept it by the end of the
season sadly they've broken up although Frasier tries to
863
01:29:53,000 --> 01:29:57,800
reach out to her she and she's fine we
broke up oh Ross I'm so sorry we just
864
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:05,976
talked about some problems we've been having and decided
you know we'd be better off apart when did this happen
865
01:30:06,000 --> 01:30:11,976
last week last week I didn't tell you because I didn't
want to have a long conversation the rest of this episode
866
01:30:12,000 --> 01:30:17,976
titled Frasier has Spokane focuses on Frasier's expanding
to the Spokane Market and him struggling to be accepted
867
01:30:18,000 --> 01:30:24,144
by the listeners there Ros is enlisted to help
out posing as a caller looking for help I had some
868
01:30:26,000 --> 01:30:28,944
somebody a guy I really
liked and then we broke
869
01:30:33,000 --> 01:30:34,800
up God Fraser I miss him so
870
01:30:38,000 --> 01:30:40,944
much love is always a
risk but you have to take
871
01:30:44,000 --> 01:30:48,864
it the pain you're feeling now will
pass in time and you you'll find yourself
872
01:30:49,000 --> 01:30:51,200
ready to take that
risk again yeah
873
01:30:56,000 --> 01:30:57,040
thanks you're
874
01:31:10,000 --> 01:31:14,976
welcome Frasier and Ros have a very real connection and it
reveals the workplace friendships are just as valid as any
875
01:31:15,000 --> 01:31:20,976
other working together was never the problem for Frasier
and RZ RZ having to answer to Frasier as her boss was what
876
01:31:21,000 --> 01:31:26,976
introduced a power Dynamic that undercut what is otherwise
a very meaningful friendship this is a reflection of what
877
01:31:27,000 --> 01:31:31,976
I was saying earlier about Frasier and how class creates
barriers between him and the people he cares about RZ is
878
01:31:32,000 --> 01:31:38,976
clearly no exception and while it does provide an interesting reading for her
character it does frame The Frasier and fro friendship as less about her story
879
01:31:39,000 --> 01:31:44,976
and more about his there was one story line for Ros that
was all her own and that was the birth of her daughter Alice
880
01:31:45,000 --> 01:31:50,976
the birth of Alice was not planned by RZ or even the show's
producers Christopher Lloyd in an interview said it was the
881
01:31:51,000 --> 01:31:56,976
network idea it's one of those things because because
they like doing event shows and so in the season 5 episode
882
01:31:57,000 --> 01:32:02,976
Halloween we find out Ros is expecting and as is tradition
for the show it's revealed in the most embarrassing way
883
01:32:03,000 --> 01:32:08,976
possible if anybody's going to propose to Raz is Frasier
what how could you do that get her pregnant it was Frasier
884
01:32:09,000 --> 01:32:13,800
listen everybody I am not the father
of R's baby fact we don't even know for
885
01:32:14,000 --> 01:32:17,968
sure if there is a baby we do
now the father is a young Barista
886
01:32:21,000 --> 01:32:25,976
working at Cafe nervosa who RZ encourages to go live
his life as she intends to raise the baby on her own I
887
01:32:26,000 --> 01:32:30,928
hope that you can understand why I
can't possibly marry you when I get married
888
01:32:31,000 --> 01:32:36,888
it's going to be to someone I love and someone
who loves me and someone who can legally drink
889
01:32:37,000 --> 01:32:38,680
champagne at my wedding
890
01:32:43,000 --> 01:32:48,952
okay I understand although Ros doesn't think
this is going to be as easy to handle as she lets
891
01:32:50,000 --> 01:32:52,533
on I can't take this
damn it I let this
892
01:32:56,000 --> 01:33:00,736
happen are we still talking about
the milk don't you see milk is a staple I
893
01:33:04,000 --> 01:33:10,784
let a staple go bad good Mothers don't let Staples go
bad how can I be responsible for a child when I can't
894
01:33:11,000 --> 01:33:16,312
even keep fresh milk in the house kids need
milk I have to know everything you could
895
01:33:18,000 --> 01:33:24,976
know half of everything you could know about the milk and Lilith could
know about the booties and the snugglies you never met Lilith did you
896
01:33:25,000 --> 01:33:30,976
what seemed to be the beginning of raza's character moving in a New
Direction never quite gets off the ground as even the delivery of the baby
897
01:33:31,000 --> 01:33:36,976
is almost smuggled into an episode about Frasier and Niles
competing over the same woman at a party what is wrong with
898
01:33:37,000 --> 01:33:41,976
me why can't I find a single woman who's interested in me
those are two different questions really so we should just sit
899
01:33:42,000 --> 01:33:48,272
down and talk them both over oh wait I can't because
I'm in lior still we do get a cute moment with
900
01:33:50,000 --> 01:33:52,867
baby Alice oh look at
her oh she's beautiful
901
01:33:58,000 --> 01:34:04,976
mleo it's a long story and that was about it on the odd
occasion we would see Alice appear in an episode or Ros
902
01:34:05,000 --> 01:34:10,976
would make a reference to having to stay home because she couldn't find a
babysitter but otherwise we don't get too much of a change in ros' life aside
903
01:34:11,000 --> 01:34:17,976
from maybe her dating habit slowing down a bit one interesting bit of trivia
about Ros Doyle is that she gets her name from one of the producers on wngs
904
01:34:18,000 --> 01:34:23,976
the show David Angel Peter Casey and David Lee created
before Frasier the real life Ros Doyle passed away in 1991
905
01:34:24,000 --> 01:34:28,976
from breast cancer towards the end of the series we see
some development in sight for Ros as she's offered a job as
906
01:34:29,000 --> 01:34:34,976
station manager at a rival radio station I must say i' I've
got sort of mixed feelings about this I mean I couldn't be
907
01:34:35,000 --> 01:34:40,976
happy they finally getting the recognition you deserve
but I'm going to miss you well let's wait till there's a
908
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real offer before we break out the kleenex and champagne
Roz being so capable gets the job I got the job
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congratulations Ross I'm so proud of you now can I tell you
how much I'm going to miss you this Tarter strange Dynamic
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where Ros inserts herself into Frasier's new relationship
with cooworker Julia played by Felicity Huffman though
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ultimately none of this goes anywhere Frasier breaks things
off with Julia and Ros exits the new job to go back to her
912
01:35:05,000 --> 01:35:10,976
old one at kacl while a bit of an odd part of the show it
does revealed to us that Ros aspires to be something more
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than a producer for Frasier show and that's something we
learn a little more about in the finale of the The Finale
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[Music] series one major part of the series
I haven't really touched on is Frasier's
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long-standing problems with dating throughout the over
250 episodes of the show we see Frasier go on countless
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dates struggling to find happiness with women that are a
bad fit for him a great fit for him and ones who don't stick
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around long enough for us to find out Fraser struggle to find a relationship
is one of the core conflicts of the series season 9 opens with the
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two-parter dawn Juan In Hell where Frasier Dives deep into
his own mind to figure out what he wants Imagining the
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many women who he's had relationships with I have carried
you with me throughout every relationship on every
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01:35:57,000 --> 01:36:02,976
date you'll pick apart the women I care about and
you remind me how much it'll hurt if I open myself
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up you don't help me you hold me back
how will I ever move forward if I don't
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put you behind me although this two-parter led Frasier
to a place of emotional strength ready to enter into a
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meaningful relationship it would be two more seasons until he found the last
of the women he would earnestly pursue on the series Charlotte played by Laura
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Linny we only meet Charlotte seven episodes before the series finale but
Linny spoke about the experience of joining the cast so late in its run I
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01:36:32,000 --> 01:36:38,976
was a Frasier fan for so long I think Charlotte's a good-hearted fumbling
person trying her best but things weren't working and she was beginning to
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lose hard a little bit in aing turn Charlotte met Frasier
while trying to help him make a meaningful connection as
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a Matchmaker after setting up a series of disastrous stes
Frasier realizes he's attracted to Charlotte Fraser Charlotte
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hi I good to see you uh I'd like you
to meet uh R yeah after some brief
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maneuvering around Charlotte's less than ideal boyfriend
Frank played by Aaron eart Frasier manages to get closer to
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Charlotte until finding out something crucial I'm moving
back to Chicago in 3 weeks 3 weeks it's not you I bought my
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old business back from my ex I I know
I should have told you sooner but it was
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never the right time Frasier and Charlotte decide to
spend the last 3 weeks she has together and that time is
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drawing to a close in the final episode two-parter good
night Seattle as the episodes begins we can see the cast all
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reaching pivotal turning points in their lives Martin and
Ronnie having gotten engaged a few episodes earlier are
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01:37:35,000 --> 01:37:40,976
planning their wedding a very pregnant Daphne could give
birth at any moment and unbeknownst to Ros she has an
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01:37:41,000 --> 01:37:45,976
exciting career opportunity ahead of her and Frasier is
preparing to say goodbye to Charlotte the episode opens with
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01:37:46,000 --> 01:37:52,976
Frasier on a plane recounting the strange turn of events that got him
aboard that flight and it began with Frasier's agent BB letting Fraser know
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he has an exciting new job offer good news I'm busting you
out of this hell hole what did you ever hear of Dr Mark
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01:38:00,000 --> 01:38:05,976
reesman the San Francisco radio psychiatrist yes we
had a a nice encounter once at a conference well last
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01:38:06,000 --> 01:38:11,696
week he had a not so nice encounter with a
falling air conditioner anyway they want you to
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01:38:12,000 --> 01:38:17,976
replace him and the money's huge as Frasier weighs his
options he has to say goodbye to Charlotte as she leaves for
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01:38:18,000 --> 01:38:22,976
Chicago at Martin and Ronnie's wedding
disaster hits when Eddie the ring bearer
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01:38:23,000 --> 01:38:27,288
eats the wedding ring the ring I
dropped it when that Cannon was and
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01:38:29,000 --> 01:38:34,056
know just DF and N stiti to the vet and
then her water breaks they are a handful
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01:38:35,000 --> 01:38:39,976
my brothers I could just imagine the hell
they're raising back there with an open
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01:38:40,000 --> 01:38:44,480
bar oh my God my water just broke
the baby's coming because I said open
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01:38:46,000 --> 01:38:50,864
bar and just like that she has a brand
new baby boy he's named David which is
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01:38:51,000 --> 01:38:56,976
possibly a tribute to siries co-creator David Angel who had
passed away with his wife a few years prior Martin and Ronnie
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01:38:57,000 --> 01:39:01,976
arrive and get married at the vet's office and for good
measure it's also Eddie's Birthday it only Loosely enters
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01:39:02,000 --> 01:39:07,976
into the plot but I felt like it needed to be mentioned after the wedding Martin
and Ronnie plan on moving in together and with Daphne already moved in with
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01:39:08,000 --> 01:39:14,976
Niles it leaves Frasier finally alone in his apartment as he
poses for a meme we see the end of an era as Martin's chair
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01:39:15,000 --> 01:39:18,520
is moved out of the apartment
been waiting long 11 years
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01:39:27,000 --> 01:39:31,976
uh be careful with it in a cute not to the first
episode the same actor who moved in Martin's
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01:39:32,000 --> 01:39:37,976
chair is also the one who takes it away with Martin moved
out and Daffy and Niles now busy with their new son a
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01:39:38,000 --> 01:39:43,568
lonely Frasier decides to take that job in
San Francisco Listen about that San Francisco
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01:39:45,000 --> 01:39:49,800
job I think I'll take it Roos is also
moving on as she's promoted to station
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01:39:51,000 --> 01:39:56,376
Manor at kacl who's the Jack booted Tyrant
whose Fanny I'll be kissing till God knows
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01:39:57,000 --> 01:40:00,840
when me joyful news your
majesty everyone gathers in Fraser's
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01:40:04,000 --> 01:40:10,784
apartment to say goodbye before he moves to San Francisco
you're really leaving what will I ever do without
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01:40:12,000 --> 01:40:18,144
you you're the sweetest most wonderful it's okay
RZ he's not going till next week let her talk to
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01:40:19,000 --> 01:40:25,912
that Martin's goodbye is particularly sweet hearkening
back to the first episode as he finally thanks Frasier
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01:40:26,000 --> 01:40:30,224
just once would it have killed you
to say thank you one lousy thank
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01:40:32,000 --> 01:40:34,133
you thank you
Fraser for well you
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01:40:38,000 --> 01:40:40,900
know and Niles simply
as Niles coffee tomorrow
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01:40:45,000 --> 01:40:48,648
10:30 I'll miss the coffees
the episode is capped off with
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Frasier reading Tennison poem ulyses and braving one more
change in his life which brings us back to that flight I
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01:40:59,000 --> 01:41:03,976
think it's great what you're doing well I just
know I'd always regret it if I didn't take the
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01:41:04,000 --> 01:41:08,864
chance ladies and gentlemen welcome
to Chicago for your sa the captain is you
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01:41:10,000 --> 01:41:16,976
remain seated wish me luck Fraser Taking a Chance on Love
is a nice way to bookend the series what is life without
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01:41:17,000 --> 01:41:23,976
taking those chances making those gestures striving for
something to live for Fraser's life had has consistently
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01:41:24,000 --> 01:41:29,976
been one about the barriers that prevent him from connecting
to others some a product of his class others of his own
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01:41:30,000 --> 01:41:34,976
making it's a great irony that runs through a series about
a man who makes his living helping others his abysmal
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01:41:35,000 --> 01:41:40,976
dating record is perhaps the greatest symbol of his lack
of ability to connect to anything with bad luck explaining
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01:41:41,000 --> 01:41:45,976
some of his troubles and Circumstance affecting the rest
Frasier deciding to take one more leap in his life and
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01:41:46,000 --> 01:41:52,976
heading towards the great unknown of Chicago to be with Charlotte is him
finally jumping over one of those barriers finally Closing one of those
976
01:41:53,000 --> 01:41:57,976
distances and he's also turning down a great job offer
as part of it effectively sacrificing Fame and Fortune
977
01:41:58,000 --> 01:42:03,976
for a chance at love if Fraser began the series as a silly
rich man to absorb with vanity to find real happiness in
978
01:42:04,000 --> 01:42:09,976
his life the finale is him choosing not to venture deeper
into that world so he might find something more meaningful
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01:42:10,000 --> 01:42:14,976
when asked his thoughts on what fate awaited Frasier Kelsey
Grammar said I sometimes think Frasier went to Chicago
980
01:42:15,000 --> 01:42:20,976
and Charlotte told him to get the hell out that seems to be
his luck maybe they ended up with a wonderful life together
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01:42:21,000 --> 01:42:26,976
and maybe we'll find out someday good night Seattle
we love you Kelsey Grammar Frasier in the Future
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had been mentioning the possibility of a reboot as far back
as 2018 with plans originally being a third act for Frasier
983
01:42:32,000 --> 01:42:39,616
in a whole new setting the plan was at first to have it air
in 2020 though that never materialized on February 24th 2021
984
01:42:40,000 --> 01:42:44,976
it was revealed that the series would be streaming exclusively
on Paramount plus with hopes of it premiering sometimes in
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01:42:45,000 --> 01:42:50,976
2022 so far there's no concrete news of a date or even cast
the only thing we know for certain is that Kelsey Grammer
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01:42:51,000 --> 01:42:55,976
will once again be reprising the of Frasier several cast
members of Frasier have been asked if they're participating
987
01:42:56,000 --> 01:43:01,824
but so far no one has confirmed much of anything
aside from them being aware that it will be
988
01:43:02,000 --> 01:43:06,976
happening the cultural impact and Lasting Legacy of Fraser
extends well into the future it's a bit difficult to
989
01:43:07,000 --> 01:43:13,976
describe so I got some help to explain that hey this is
Hoots from the YouTube channel little hoot I'm creating a
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01:43:14,000 --> 01:43:20,848
companion video to Jose's on Frasier that's a collaboration
with Neil from the liberal cook in it Neil and I
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01:43:21,000 --> 01:43:27,976
attempt to sus out Fraser Legacy and in doing so we touch
on a broad range of topics including the misogyny of '90s
992
01:43:28,000 --> 01:43:32,800
Comedy philosopher AA arent TV Tropes
and Anita Hill it's kind of a wild one
993
01:43:36,000 --> 01:43:42,976
and I hope you enjoy it's hard to overstate how well-received
Frasier was in addition to being a hit with strong
994
01:43:43,000 --> 01:43:49,976
ratings throughout its run Frasier also managed to win 37
prime time em Awards the most ever for a completed TV series
995
01:43:50,000 --> 01:43:55,976
until that record was broken by Game of Thrones in 2016
Kelsey gramar and David Hy Pierce both won four emys for their
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01:43:56,000 --> 01:44:01,976
respective portrayals of Frasier and Niles and Frasier won
outstanding comedy series five years in a row a feat only
997
01:44:02,000 --> 01:44:07,976
matched by Modern Family the series has also spawned a
number of Home releases books and other forms of merchandise
998
01:44:08,000 --> 01:44:14,976
over the years it's also been playing in heavy syndication as well letting
whole new generations of people discover Frasier Joe Keenan describes how new
999
01:44:15,000 --> 01:44:19,976
viewers react to the show saying I think new viewers like the
show because apart from its quality it doesn't remind them
1000
01:44:20,000 --> 01:44:26,976
of anything no one says oh yet another show about two
relentlessly highbrow romantically thwarted psychiatrists
1001
01:44:27,000 --> 01:44:33,976
following the end of Frasier Kelsey Grammar would go on to be involved in
countless TV and film projects over the years from appearing as beast in the
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01:44:34,000 --> 01:44:38,976
X-Men movies to being the executive producer of the TV
series girlfriends he is still likely best remembered for the
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01:44:39,000 --> 01:44:45,976
20 years he spent playing Frasier though he spent even more
time 29 years in fact playing Sideshow Bob on The Simpsons and
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01:44:46,000 --> 01:44:50,976
I would be remiss if I didn't also mention that the Simpsons
had a number of Frasier references in those episodes
1005
01:44:51,000 --> 01:44:55,976
including guest appearances by David Hy Pier pi and John
Mahoney David Hy Pierce continued to have a number of TV and
1006
01:44:56,000 --> 01:45:01,976
film roles though he tended more towards working on stage
including winning a Tony for his R the 2007 production of
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01:45:02,000 --> 01:45:07,976
curtains his performances on Frasier were typically noted
for how keenly they reacted to the audience so a career on
1008
01:45:08,000 --> 01:45:13,976
stage makes perfect sense for Pierce John Mahoney appeared
in several roles after Frasier though Martin crane would
1009
01:45:14,000 --> 01:45:19,976
always be his signature performance sadly on February
4th 2018 Mahoney passed away due to complications from
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01:45:20,000 --> 01:45:25,976
throat cancer in an interview Perry Gilpin told us sweet
story about Mahoney a few years ago JN took me and my family
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01:45:26,000 --> 01:45:31,976
to dinner in Chicago while we were driving back my husband
was texting with Chris Lloyd and read Chris's text out
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01:45:32,000 --> 01:45:37,976
loud please tell the great John Mahoney it was one of the
honors of my life to work with him I could see a little tear
1013
01:45:38,000 --> 01:45:44,976
for him in Jon's eye then my daughter says who's John
Mahoney Jon almost fell out of the car laughing he never took
1014
01:45:45,000 --> 01:45:49,976
himself too seriously Jane leaves continued her
career throughout the 2000s after the end of Frasier
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eventually finding herself on Hot in Cleveland which ran
for six seasons she took some time off of Television after
1016
01:45:55,000 --> 01:46:01,976
that they eventually returned to the drama series the resident which is
currently in its Fifth Season Perry Gilpin has been working in film and TV
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since the end of Frasier and has also built a fairly extensive list of credits
doing voiceover work she even has the unique distinction of being part of the
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ill- fated Final Fantasy the spirits within in addition to
Frasier moose also appeared in the feature film My Dog Skip
1019
01:46:16,000 --> 01:46:20,608
once again alongside his son Enzo
sadly on June 22nd 2006 moose passed of
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natural causes at the age of 15 Enzo would pass not long
after on June 23rd 2010 at the age of 14 due to cancer both
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01:46:29,000 --> 01:46:35,976
will be remembered as two of the very best boys class
looms heavily in Frasier often as a barrier from preventing
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people from making genuine connections the very idea of people in the upper
class is consistently a source of mockery but more importantly it's also
1023
01:46:43,000 --> 01:46:47,976
demonstrated to be a driver of division and a barrier
for loving compassion Frasier does a wonderful service by
1024
01:46:48,000 --> 01:46:53,976
showing us that this excess doesn't make anyone better
it's a social structure that moves us away from one another
1025
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reflecting on the show David I pierce describes how it
connects people saying I have people tell me all the time that
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when their family was in crisis a dad in the hospital a mom
dying ARA was the one thing their family could watch together
1027
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that would make them laugh it's happened so many times over the years that I no
longer think of it as a coincidence but as part of the show's Legacy Frasier was
1028
01:47:12,000 --> 01:47:16,976
a show about connecting through unlikely circumstances but
the circumstances weren't the living arrangements but the
1029
01:47:17,000 --> 01:47:22,976
way their social spheres shape them the idea that these
barriers can be torn down makes it much easier to laugh
1030
01:47:23,000 --> 01:47:28,976
together no matter how hard the times might get that's
what makes Frasier such an excellent show when I made that
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cheers retrospective a while ago I knew it had to be a
two-parter and I knew I would eventually have to speak about
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01:47:35,000 --> 01:47:40,976
Frasier growing up I didn't really watch cheers but I definitely
watched Frasier so revisiting it all these years later
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was a treat and a reminder of why this show was such a joy
to watch in my youth it held up surprisingly well and I think
1034
01:47:48,000 --> 01:47:52,976
that's a tribute to the writing and performances
throughout it if you enjoyed this lengthy look back at the
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01:47:53,000 --> 01:47:58,976
show Frasier do consider becoming a patron or member for
this channel you'll join all the lovely names you see
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scrolling up on the screen now plus you'll get early access
to videos in the future patrons also get a little extra
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say on which series comes next though I can't make any
promises as to which you all be covering thank you all so much
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for watching
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