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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:01,000 [Music] 2 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:12,976 spin-offs almost never work they usually miss the magic of their predecessor run for half a season and are quickly 3 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:18,976 forgotten resigned to the dust bin of TV history Frasier was not just an exception it was one of those rare 4 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:24,976 sitcoms that went from spin-off to its own full-fledged hit a classic of the '90s Frasier ran for 11 seasons and was 5 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:31,976 a critical darling with 37 Emmy wins which as of 2022 was the third highest ever for a series and the highest for 6 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:39,104 any sitcom Frasier was in some ways an unlikely success story as big a hit as cheers was being a cheers spin-off 7 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:45,976 wasn't a Surefire recipe for Success the first spin-off attempt the tortellis lasted a mere 13 episodes before it was 8 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:50,976 cancelled when cheers went off the air a poll conducted by Pew found that of all the Cheers characters who might get a 9 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:55,736 spin-off only 2% of fans wanted to see one starring Frasier not the best of 10 00:00:56,000 --> 00:01:02,976 Omens but Frasier quickly won over any doubters by being a hit from its very first episode of course the story behind 11 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:08,976 how that show came to be started before that first title card it's hard to explain Frasier without explaining all 12 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:14,976 of cheers and luckily I've already done that if you'd like to hear a detailed breakdown of that show please check out my video on Cheers for everyone else 13 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:20,976 here's a quick refresher Frasier Crane was introduced in season 3 of the series as a foil in the Sam Diane will they 14 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:25,976 won't they relationship although the character was intended to make a quick exit appearing as a temporary boyfriend 15 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:32,976 for Diane Kelsey Grammar made such a strong impression on the show's producer that they kept him around for the next eight seasons in that time he was left 16 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:39,976 at the alar by Diane met and married Lilith sternin had a child named Frederick revealed that he had been married once before in his younger days 17 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:45,976 and eventually divorced Lilith only to seemingly reconcile in the final season of the show at the end of Cheers Frasier 18 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:50,976 was set to spend the rest of his days sitting in that bar in Boston listening to Cliff tell Tall Tales watching Norm 19 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:57,976 drink countless beers and inhaling dangerous levels of Sam Malon many layers of cologne but a Frasier spin-off 20 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:03,976 took the character in a New Direction let's briefly talk about wings the series was created by David Angel Peter 21 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:08,976 Casey and David Lee all former writers on Cheers it was through their production company grub Street 22 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:15,976 Productions that they approached Kelsey Grammar about working on a new series they had a good relationship from their time on Cheers together so much so that 23 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:19,968 Frasier even made a guest appearance on an episode of wings All 24 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:28,656 Aboard a crane Train to mental well-being originally this new project wasn't going to be a cheers related 25 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:34,976 spin-off at all but rather an original series starring Kelsey gramar the idea they came up with was that of a wealthy 26 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:40,976 Mogul who was in a motorcycle accident and then confined to his bedroom running his entire Empire from his bed the idea 27 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:47,976 was rejected by NBC and Paramount and it was firmly suggested that the new show would be about Fraser crane he looked 28 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:53,976 across the table and said uh there's only one thing I got to tell you I think a sitcom should be 29 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:59,976 funny it's got to be Frasier we got to do Frasier again if Frasier was going to return Kelsey gramar and insisted on the 30 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:07,976 rest of the show being something entirely new so the character was packed up moved to Seattle and would start a new life as a radio psychiatrist Frasier 31 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:13,976 Crane would be played of course by Kelsey gramar the audite sophisticated man returning to his hometown although 32 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:18,976 he had known Frasier for 9 years on Cheers in Seattle he would be far more inclined to let his more cultured side 33 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:24,976 show with less time spent on bar stools and more time spent in Opera boxes he would also spend less time being married 34 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:30,976 and more time trying to figure out how to be a single man in his 40s I'm Miss Frederick like the Dickens of course you 35 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:36,376 know he's quite a boy he's playing goalie on the PB soccer team now Chip over the old 36 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:41,352 block you hated Sports so does he David Hyde Pierce was cast as Niles 37 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:50,976 crane Frasier's younger brother although the initial idea for the show never included a Brother character he was added after assistant casting director 38 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:55,976 Sheila Guthrie pointed out how much Pierce resembled a young Kelsey gramar particularly in his first appearance on 39 00:03:56,000 --> 00:04:01,976 Cheers after the character was created the role went Direct appears who created exactly what you would expect of 40 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:08,464 Frasier's brother Prim eccentric and dripping with snobbery oh I'm sorry N I didn't realize you'd stop 41 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:14,976 talking you haven't heard a word I said oh NES you're a psychiatrist you know what it's like to listen to people prattling on endlessly about their 42 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:19,800 mundane lives T and on that subject I heard your show today Martin crane was 43 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:26,976 played by John Mahoney the gruff former cop who finds himself suddenly living with Frasier after he becomes unable to 44 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:32,976 handle life on his own due to a gunshot shot wound he received a few years prior Martin was inspired by the real life 45 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:38,976 experience of siries co-creator David Lee who had been helping take care of his infirm father at the time I was thinking about a recent stroke that my 46 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:45,976 father had had and I mentioned to Peter and David have you noticed that everybody our age is starting to have to take care of their parents more and sort 47 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:50,928 of try to tie up old strings and heal wounds heal wounds Mahoney was the first 48 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:56,976 choice for the character and much like Pierce was offered the role directly my study you expect me to give up my study 49 00:04:57,000 --> 00:05:02,976 the place where I read where I do my most profound thinking I used the can like the rest of the world Jane leaves 50 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:07,976 played Daphney Moon Martin's physical therapist and living housekeeper for Frasier and Martin although initially 51 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:12,976 there was some discussion on making her Latina The Producers eventually made Daphne English and Jane leaves like 52 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:18,976 Pierce and Mahoney before her was pre-approve for the role daany provides a quirkier side of Frasier's home life 53 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:23,976 occasionally dropping in strange stories from her days back in Manchester and having the odd psychic Vision wait a 54 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:27,264 minute I'm getting something on you you're a florist 55 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:37,056 no I'm a psychiatrist well it comes and goes Ros Doyle played by Perry Gilpin is 56 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:43,976 the hard-edged foil to the more gential character of Frasier she brings her Frank way of speaking to bear in most 57 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:49,976 scenes at the kacl radio station along with a very prolific dating life the only character whose actor wasn't 58 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:55,976 pre-approved at first Lisa cudra was cast to be raw Gilpin was brought in when things didn't work out with her 59 00:05:56,000 --> 00:06:00,976 although kudra would find her own success a year later when she was cast as Phoebe in the show Friends totally 60 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:05,032 passionless it was like he was thinking of someone else I know I 61 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:10,800 was somebody's here I got to go all right I'll talk to you later bye mom the 62 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:17,976 final member of the cast was a lovable Jack Russell Terrier named moose who played the role of Eddie Martin's pet 63 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:23,976 dog moose played Eddie for the first six seasons but in later Seasons with moose getting older his son Enzo took up the 64 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:29,376 family business and also played Eddie Dad I can't read my paper Eddie's staring at me 65 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:34,864 well you do make quite a picture in the morning just ignore him I'm trying to 66 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:41,888 I'm talking to the dog although the principal cast was relatively small Frasier made the most 67 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:47,976 of them with numerous episodes exploring the antics of the Korean men and the women who tolerated them there were several recurring characters who joined 68 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:55,616 them including Dan Butler as Bob Bulldog Brisco Edward Hibert as Gil Chesterton and Tom mcowan as Kenny Daly even though 69 00:06:56,000 --> 00:07:00,976 Frasier was a spin-off there was such a strong desire for it to be it own show that very few cameos came from cheers 70 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:07,976 regulars with one exception BB newerth who would reprise her role as Lilith in every season of Frasier although the 71 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:14,976 show had no theme song Its ending theme toss salad and scrambled eggs sung by grammar at his insistence is one of TV's 72 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:20,976 most memorable closers according to the series composer Bruce Miller the lyrics weren't allowed to make any reference to 73 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:26,976 the subject matter of the show including its title and there has been some speculation as to what the song even means although the lyrics seem 74 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:33,976 nonsensical they actually do tell us story hey baby I hear the blues a call in TOS salad and scrambled eggs refers 75 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:40,976 to Frasier's callers on his radio show the next part but maybe I seem a bit confused maybe but I got you pegged 76 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:45,976 refers to Fraser struggling to understand his own life but still being able to help but I don't know what to do 77 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:53,616 with these toss salad and scrambled eggs they're calling again is a reference to an endless stream of people calling for 78 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:57,840 [Music] help on September 16th 1993 Frasier The Pilot Episode 79 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:06,976 debuted and much of America was watching the premiere of Frasier was titled The 80 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:12,976 Good Son and was written by the show's creators David Angel Peter Casey and David Lee and directed by longstanding 81 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:17,976 cheers director James buroughs it very quickly filled in the blanks as to what happened with Frasier following the end 82 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:22,736 of Cheers 6 months ago I was living in Boston my wife had left me which was 83 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:28,776 very painful then she came back to me which was excruciating 84 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:36,976 reflecting on this moment writer David Isaac said that got a big laugh bigger than it should have I thought to myself 85 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:43,976 we're going to be okay part of the premise is given to us right away with Frasier hosting a Radio Show in Seattle 86 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:48,976 and we are introduced to his brother Niles in a creative way Frasier made use of title cards to introduce scenes so 87 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:55,976 instead of having an awkward bit of dialogue where the relationship between Frasier and Niles is acknowledged explicitly the title card simply reads 88 00:08:56,000 --> 00:09:02,976 the brother these title cards became an iconic part of the Frasier style often framing your expectations for a scene 89 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:07,976 with some important information or providing a joke to add a bit more levity into the scene in the cafe Niles 90 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:14,976 helpfully introduces the idea that Martin should move in with Frasier all right I'll make up the spare bedroom oh 91 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:20,312 you're a good son Fraser oh God I am aren't I two Cafe supremos anything to eat no I 92 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:26,864 seem to have lost my appetite I'll have a large piece of cheesecake Martin is 93 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:31,976 not thrilled with the arrangement we all know why I'm here your old man can't be left alone for 10 minutes without 94 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:36,672 falling on his ass and phrase you got stuck with me isn't that right no no 95 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:45,336 no I want you here it'll give us a chance to get reacquainted that implies we were acquainted at one 96 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:52,312 [Laughter] point Martin brings one piece of furniture with him to complete Frasier's 97 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:58,976 carefully decorated apartment his iconic chair after a suggestion from Niles Frasier decides to hire some help and we 98 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:03,800 then meet Daphne you were a policeman weren't you yeah how'd you know I must 99 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:08,520 confess I'm a bit cic Martin instantly wants to hire her 100 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:16,976 partially I suspect to annoy Frasier the main conflict of this episode is between Frasier and Martin struggling to find a 101 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:21,976 way to live together ever since you moved in here it's been a snide comment about this or a smart little put down 102 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:28,976 about that well I've done my best to make a home here for you and once just once would it have killed you to say 103 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:33,992 thank you one lousy thank you after the fight Martin makes a gesture to Frasier 104 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:40,976 the best way he can yeah I'm worried my son doesn't know that I really appreciate what he's done for 105 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:45,800 me why don't you tell him a you know how it is with Fathers and Sons it have 106 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:50,736 trouble saying that stuff well if it helps I suspect your son already knows 107 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:54,680 how you feel is that all 108 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:07,296 yeah I guess that's it thank you Dr crane my pleasure Martin you hear what I said I said thank you yes I heard what 109 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:12,976 makes this a great pilot is that it not only establishes the premise and introduces the characters but also sets 110 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:17,976 up one of the primary plot lines for the first few seasons Frasier and Martin reconnecting after Frasier had spent 15 111 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:23,976 years away in Boston one thing abundantly clear is that this show will be set in the world of the upper class 112 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:29,976 Frasier is obviously well off and so is Niles and while Martin and dle certainly aren't both of them will be living under 113 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:35,976 Frasier's roof reacting to the context he's created for them and RZ while more akin to Daphne and Martin in class 114 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:42,976 status typically appears in scenes at the radio station the cafe or Fraser's apartment in a supporting role when you 115 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:49,976 look at the class backgrounds of the characters this split between them matters far less than the context they find themselves in ultimately this show 116 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:55,976 is about Frasier's World Niles might be the best fit into it but to an extent all the other characters are trying to 117 00:11:56,000 --> 00:12:02,976 fit into Frasier's world as well and this is all very ironic considering this whole episode is about Frasier fighting himself in a new context it speaks to 118 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:08,976 the power of perspective and how when a show focuses on one character it can very easily shape the world around them 119 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:11,600 and how they Define this [Music] Frasier 120 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:21,976 space living in an apartment that is almost timelessly classic in its design working the cushy job of radio 121 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:27,976 psychiatrist and going to Chic restaurants and art events Fraser crane is a man of means and class he's also 122 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:33,440 incredibly arrogant and sometimes a complete goof but none of these qualities make him 123 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:39,976 particularly likable the key to Fraser's appeal is that he very deeply cares about people Frasier's job as a 124 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:45,976 radiotherapist makes him something of a local celebrity in Seattle more so than you'd expect from someone on the radio 125 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:50,976 and Frasier is more than happy to Revel in that Fame and Fortune then I will just tell them that they can take their 126 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:55,864 five figure deal and find someone else five figures didn't I mention precious 127 00:12:57,000 --> 00:13:03,976 this is for television the big Kon television research has shown that a single television commercial can turn an 128 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:09,056 obscure radio personality into a national celebrity a year from now someone like 129 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:16,976 you could be broadcasting your message of Hope and healing not just to the Pacific Northwest but to the entire 130 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:26,976 nation that celebrity affords Fraser access to Seattle's more Elite circles often hobbying with the most impressive 131 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:32,976 of knobs what makes Razer fun to watch is when that class status makes him the subject of mockery for example when 132 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:38,976 Bulldog tricks him into singing some Gilbert at Sullivan I don't suppose you happen to remember the words to Three 133 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:42,968 Little Maids well let me see Three Little Maids from school are 134 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:49,032 we is a school girl well maybe filled with the brim with girlish 135 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:59,976 GLE it's the classic comedy Trope of laughing at someone in a higher class be humiliated and while it's easy to laugh 136 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:05,976 at Frasier's class making him look silly it does make it tougher to empathize with him when it also isolates him from 137 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:11,976 suffering in The Crucible Frasier is the victim of fraud when a painting he's purchased is revealed to be a forgery I 138 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:14,944 didn't paint it of of course you didn't you you 139 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:22,160 created it you gave birth to it I didn't do anything to it I never 140 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:30,184 saw this painting before in my whole life and you thought I was going to embarrass 141 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:37,976 you the cops are unable to help Frasier and a legal proceeding against the gallery he bought the painting from 142 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:44,976 would cost more than the painting is worth leaving him with nothing to do but hurl a brick through the gallery's window if you act like a barbarian you 143 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:50,184 will become a barbarian give me the brick Frasier and let him get away with this I 144 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:55,976 know I know but the gallery owner did to you was wrong it was humiliating but if you throw that brick 145 00:14:56,000 --> 00:15:01,760 through that window you will have lost something more Val valuable than your money you have 146 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:07,800 lost your mind frer you can't do this Injustice for Frasier is a blow to his 147 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:14,976 ego but not the material conditions of his life Niles's advice is good only in so far that Frasier can afford to take a 148 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:19,976 little humiliation what if this was someone who swindled out of their savings or even their weekly paycheck 149 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:27,976 the real lesson here is that the privileged can afford for the system to fail them at the end of the show's Fifth Season Frasier stand against kacl 150 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:33,976 station manager it's him and all of his colleagues fired and we see Frasier in season 6 out of work for the first Nine 151 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:36,200 episodes Frasier you're not famous 152 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:45,976 anymore Kelsey Grammer spoke about these episodes with Fraser being out of work we thought it was a good storyline we 153 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:50,976 got nine stories out of it we thought it was an interesting Journey for him to take we always knew he was going to go 154 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:56,976 back to the station but I think it might have made the audience uncomfortable because Frasier wasn't as attractive 155 00:15:57,000 --> 00:16:02,976 there was something more sad about him Frasier's suffering is a huge part of what makes the show work but that's 156 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:08,976 often seen through his many failures in dating or struggling to hold a dinner party being out of work hit differently 157 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:13,976 it's easy enough to empathize with a Frasier struggling to find someone dating is universal and when his fancy 158 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:19,976 dinner parties go arai it's usually just his own vanity biting him in the butt but this pain wasn't as easy to laugh at 159 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:26,976 it was understandable without being relatable because even out of work Frasier wasn't hurting for money he was 160 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:32,976 upset that he wasn't famous anymore it's possible to pity Frasier but it's a lot harder to empathize and empathy is at 161 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:38,976 the heart of what makes Frasier a great character we can see Fraser's personal empathy in his chosen profession as a 162 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:43,976 psychiatrist Fraser's background in Psychiatry means he's a medical doctor who has chosen to specialize in mental 163 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:48,976 health although being a character created in 1984 he represents a very old-fashioned depiction of a 164 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:54,976 psychiatrist one who fits the classic mold of having a patient sit on a couch while they talk through their problems 165 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:59,976 as their psychiatrist takes notes and offers a few insights something more likely to see a psychologist do today 166 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:07,104 rather than a psychiatrist Frasier practices his Psychiatry through his radio show hello Mark I'm listening okay 167 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:12,928 uh well I work at this all night Mini Mart and um I've been watching myself on 168 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:19,720 the video camera and the camera me is doing things I don't approve of these calls are often voiced by some 169 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:26,976 pretty popular actors including Mel Brooks Ben Stellar Elijah Wood Mary Tyler Moore and Kevin Bacon Frasier is a 170 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:32,976 Freudian which dates them even further back to the practice of psychoanalysis and psychoanalysis as is sometimes 171 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:38,976 mentioned on the show doesn't have the best track record in the episode chess pains after losing several games of 172 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:44,976 Chess against his father Frasier is obsessed with winning I am analyzing my options unlike your winging approach I 173 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:48,904 like to plan a strategy like a general leading his troops into 174 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:56,328 battle checkm Schwarz cop Frasier who fancies himself 175 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:03,976 intellectual force can accept that his less educated father who had never played chess before is better than him 176 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:09,976 so Frasier and Niles analyze why this is happening sooner or later the sun eclipses the father it's the natural 177 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:15,976 order yet it's frequently a stumbling block because the sun's competitive stirrings are accompanied by tremendous 178 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:20,800 feelings of guilt I see yes it's the classic edible conflict my God it seems 179 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:28,976 so obvious now I've been letting him win later Martin cuts the heart of what's really happening this isn't about losing 180 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:33,976 is it this is about losing to me that's what's driving you nuts how could I lose 181 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:39,976 to the old man I'm much smarter than he is I never said that no you didn't have to say you've thought it all your life no I haven't yes you haven't are you're 182 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:46,976 insulting my intelligence again the answer is painfully obvious Martin is just better at chess than Frasier in 183 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:51,976 fact there's an episode of Cheers where Frasier loses a game of chess to the slow-witted Woody raising serious 184 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:57,976 questions about Fraser's chess skills rather than accept that maybe he needs to improve his chess game Frasier and 185 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:02,976 Niles con Co this Freudian explanation as to why Frasier keeps losing it isn't a genuine attempt to understand the 186 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:07,976 situation but rather to protect Fraser's ego on the presumption that an educated man like him must be better at chess 187 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:13,976 than Martin even when Frasier finally wins he has to make a subtle nod to his little pet theory about this being some 188 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:19,056 kind of eatable struggle I'm sorry I beat you Dad this once again highlights how 189 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:26,976 Frasier is at its funniest when it's highlighting the excesses of the character the series often includes 190 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:32,976 skepticism towards psychiat and psychology more broadly or at least the type practiced by Frasier and Niles I'm 191 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:39,656 not like a psychiatrist who works with someone for years and years and it doesn't matter if they ever get 192 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:45,928 better a bust of Freud oh well that's really quite thoughtful of you I figured 193 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:52,608 you'd appreciate the irony since he's been proven wrong about practically 194 00:19:55,000 --> 00:20:01,976 everything I like to think that Freud's theories will stand the test of time really have you read either of his 195 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:07,976 books oh what a relief I've been ringing my hands over nothing I mean it's okay all I want to do is have sex with my 196 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:10,800 dead mother that last clip is Fraser San in 197 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:21,000 relief because he's figured out the meaning of a particularly difficult dream he's been having where he finds himself in bed with his colleague 198 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:25,712 Gil well look who's up although dreams being secret desires 199 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:32,976 people have isn't backed by much scientific evidence if you're someone who buys into dream analysis the obvious 200 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:39,976 reading here is that Frasier is secretly gay an interpretation he resists here's something dreams as an expression of 201 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:43,968 wish fulfillment moving on so he and Niles dive deep into their 202 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:50,976 knowledge of dream analysis to pull together all sorts of conclusions that will supposedly resolve the tension in 203 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:55,864 Fraser's mind letting him avoid these dreams of course it's so obvious Gil is 204 00:20:57,000 --> 00:21:01,992 a food critic food criticism mother once again this analysis is very forced the 205 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:09,976 tools of Freudian psychoanalysis are less a tool for greater understanding and used instead to reassure Fraser's 206 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:15,976 ego in the decades since his ideas were introduced much of the work of Sigman Freud has largely been supplanted the 207 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:21,976 best explanation I've heard as to why he should still be taught in an academic setting is that his insights were incredibly important even though his 208 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:28,976 conclusions were ridiculous for example his Insight that human development is a product of not nature or n but rather 209 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:34,976 nature interacting with nurture was groundbreaking but his conclusion that development was The Guiding of sexual 210 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:41,976 desire through distinct stages from infancy to adolesence including breastfeeding leading to some kind of oral fixation is completely without 211 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:47,976 empirical support while it might seem like I'm being a bit unfair to an older show none of what I'm saying is 212 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:53,976 particularly new Freud's theories have been criticized for decades and much of this was known in the 9s Frasier 213 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:59,976 represents the classic idea of a psychiatrist in the world of Pop Culture not reality the the type of psychoanalysis done by Frasier is 214 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:07,424 sometimes not much better than what Daphne can figure out on her own in your dream who was in the shower Gill what is 215 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:12,928 a shower running water who needs water fish what do fish have gills do you see 216 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:20,760 where I'm going by the end of this episode Frasier realizes he's feeling frustrated at work 217 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:28,976 because he finds a lack of challenge in the colors he's getting and according to him and Niles that should resolve the dream except the episode ends like this 218 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:32,456 Dr CR Dr Sigman fre my goodness it's quite an honor the 219 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:41,784 honor is all mine I gave you a complex psychological problem and your soul right now we have more important 220 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:53,976 matters and just to be clear I'm not saying therapy is a bad thing in fact working with a psychiatrist or 221 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:58,976 psychologist can be incredibly helpful in improving one's mental health what I am saying is that Frasier and Niles 222 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:03,976 often let their biases impact their Psychiatry particularly when they try to understand themselves and that some of 223 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:09,976 the theories and ideas that they use are very out of date even for the '90s there is another problem with the type of 224 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:15,976 Psychiatry practiced by Frasier and NES too generally speaking it is very expensive while Frasier doesn't charge 225 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:20,976 his color anything his background and expertise come from a field of medicine that is very lucrative psychoanalytic 226 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:26,976 therapy can involve multiple sessions a week sometimes lasting for years and at a cost of $1 to $200 a session in 227 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:32,976 today's money this type of therapy can be very costly another way which the series demonstrates the barriers class 228 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:39,976 places between acts of compassion although Fraser has chosen a field that puts his help out of the reach of all but the most privileged one overarching 229 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:44,976 aspect of his character and one that makes him particularly likable is that he genuinely wants to help other people 230 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:51,976 this can be seen in him choosing to host a show where people can call in with their problems for free as limited help as that may be one specific example of 231 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:57,976 Fraser's compassion overcoming his vanity is in the episode Death Becomes him when Martin's physician suddenly 232 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:04,976 passes away a man who was similar in physique behavior and temperament to Frasier it leads him to question his own 233 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:08,264 mortality Frasier D please sh trying to listen to my 234 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:16,976 heartbeat Frasier becomes obsessed planning his own funeral and trying to find a way in which this doctor 235 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:21,976 neglected his health he even crashes the men's Shiva to learn more about him he only steps out of his vanity when the 236 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:28,400 opportunity to help someone arises I suppose the best we can do is is live for the little Joys and uh 237 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:33,904 surprises that life affords us you can't spend your life being 238 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,900 obsessed with death you're not Jewish are you 239 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:46,976 Frasier's Insight come from his own experiences and he uses these moments of compassion for others as opportunities 240 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:52,976 to grow himself which isn't the safest way to practice Psychiatry but on a more human emotional level it offers the 241 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:58,976 chance for two people to help one another in the episode Dark Victory a disastrous birthday party for Martin 242 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:00,200 leaves everyone 243 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:11,800 bickering no wait R where you going with a blackout keeping them all indoors 244 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:17,976 Frasier makes the rounds with everyone in his little extended family offering advice to calm their various tensions 245 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:22,976 maybe you're just looking for too much from your job we should start exploring other areas of your life interests maybe 246 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:26,584 a maybe a serious relationship maybe you're right right I 247 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:36,552 me how long can I go on chasing these hunky 25y olds that are all looks and no substance exactly Ron oh I'm serious I'm 248 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:43,912 asking how long 3 four years it just makes me feel like I'm not very ambitious I mean I could be working in a 249 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:50,976 hospital or a clinic of course you could daely but maybe that's not L important to you right now I think you like being 250 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:55,864 part of a family you can't walk around Paris you could sit at a nice cafe and 251 00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:01,288 let Paris walk past you maybe buy a glass of wine for a beautiful mm 252 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:06,992 moiselle get yourself a nice bottle of imported beer I only like Valentine's in 253 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:12,288 Paris Valentine's is imported beer could it be that you really upset 254 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:19,976 just because you you couldn't help that woman you know I really hate that when you take a simple criticism and you turn 255 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:25,976 it back on me I think I'm right well of course you're right why do you think I hate it and at the end of it all Frasier 256 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:30,992 is left emotionally spent I tend to each one of you and you all feel better and 257 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:37,888 the minute you get a whiff of mosquite coming from down below you are out the door without so 258 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:45,888 much as a thank you well thank you for the invitation but I am frankly fed up with people and 259 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,600 their problems the doctor is out oh come 260 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:56,352 on okay apologies accepted you come Frasier is a helper from from the 261 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:03,976 callers on his show to his own family and more than that he's willing to sacrifice his own downtime to help others albeit while venting his 262 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:09,976 frustrations at the situation which is totally fair when you consider his job is to help people and having to do the 263 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:14,976 same for the people in his personal life might feel incredibly taxing but that gets to the heart of why he's a likable 264 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:20,976 character he's willing to put others before himself one particularly clever part of this episode is that it takes 265 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:25,976 place during a blackout which makes the fancy trappings around them disappear leaving the characters with only the 266 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:30,976 props of their own baggage with all that gone Frasier can navigate through the void using only his compassion to 267 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:36,976 connect with his loved ones and it works very well problems are solved Rifts are mended and everyone is brought a few 268 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:42,976 steps closer to each other in the episode the thousandth Show Seattle hosts a Fraser crane Day episode 269 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:49,336 speaking directly to Fraser's vanity for your sake and the stations to submit to a small tasteful uh 270 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:56,056 lowkey public rally a series of mishaps keep Fraser from the rally and he's left 271 00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:01,160 to dwell on his own sense self I wanted my day I wanted hoopla and 272 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:11,104 fuss practically plan the whole thing myself when Frasier eventually gets to the rally via a limo ride or rather 273 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:17,976 almost there he postpones a tending because he's met someone who needs help no don't worry about me I got plenty of 274 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,400 time tell me more about your kids all 275 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:28,672 right I'm John by the way I'm Fraser the crumpled sign reflects how hollow 276 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:35,976 the fame and fortune are compared to the act of compassion much like the blackout hiding Fraser's wealth this abuan of 277 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:41,976 Frasier's Fame reveal that the true value of his character comes from how he helps people Frasier's wealth and radio 278 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:47,976 show fueled by his occasionally dubious Psychiatry create a distance between him and the people he wants to help in the 279 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:53,976 episode Fraser's Edge this becomes particularly evident after being told he'll be winning a Lifetime Achievement 280 00:28:54,000 --> 00:29:00,976 Award Frasier has a crisis of confidence and goes to see his old Mentor Dr William tubry played by Renee Ooa I 281 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:07,976 suppose if one were looking hard enough one could even say you're coming down here was a desperate quest for approval 282 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:12,416 oh well that one's a little out there Dr Tukes reveals to Frasier that 283 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:19,672 he has a tendency to keep people at a distance how's your practice I don't 284 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:24,416 have a practice I have a radio show distance any children yes I have a 285 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:32,232 wonderful son with whom I'm very close you live with with him he lives in Boston distance with your wife my exwife 286 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:39,976 yes I know distance wasn't she a psychiatrist yes she was she Happ to be a damn good one too well that's a handy 287 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:44,736 choice for someone who'd rather share ideas than emotions have you ever met 288 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:50,584 Lilith no well she happens to be a a very warm and loving 289 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:58,976 woman although psychoanalysis isn't always the best tool for providing therapy to someone it does make for a 290 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:04,976 handy way of dissecting art particularly art that holds it in high regard this episode demonstrates the distance 291 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:09,976 Frasier has created in his life but it goes beyond the personal relationships and professional choices he's made it 292 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:15,976 goes deep into who he is as a character he lives in a social class that creates distance from the rest of the world he 293 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:22,976 works in a profession only available to those with the means to pay for it and when he takes a step towards bringing his expertise to the people it's done in 294 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:28,976 a way that keeps those people at a distance as well and somehow through all those distances manages to make real 295 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:34,976 connections and give people genuine Comfort class through the mediums of wealth and exclusive medical treatment 296 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:40,976 reveals itself to be a barrier to expressions of human compassion Frasier is a likable character not because he 297 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:47,016 uses his status to help others but because he can help others in spite of [Music] Cheers Cameos 298 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:56,976 it Frasier simply wouldn't exist without cheers so it made perfect sense for some of those old friends from cheers to stop 299 00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:02,976 by a few cameos throughout the years Frasier had been moved to Seattle in part to signify that this new show would 300 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:07,976 be a departure from cheers and the first season of Frasier deliberately avoided bringing back any other cheers alumni 301 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:13,976 the one exception naturally was his ex-wife Lilith and the episode featuring her return titled the show where Lilith 302 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:20,400 comes back was the second most watched episode of Frasier ever congratulations Frasier you've done it 303 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:25,992 again luckily for us Frasier and Lilith still have that wonderful chemistry I'm 304 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:32,976 here for a conven and I happened to hear your voice on the radio I kept hoping you'd introduce Pearl Jam's latest hit 305 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:39,208 but much to my chagrin you were doing out worthless little advice pellets from your psychiatric pz 306 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:44,976 dispenser Lilith would make guest appearances in each of the show's 11 seasons including a particularly 307 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:51,976 memorable episode where she hooks up with Niles let's try to stay calm these things happen they happen every day 308 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:57,504 every day in Arkansas Fier son Frederick first played by Luke tarsitano and then Trevor 309 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:05,976 Einhorn also made several appearances memorably offering some competition to Niles that's so cute he's got a crush on 310 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:12,592 you yes you should have seen him last night I spent the entire evening sitting on daff's lap watching TV 311 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:17,032 really what can I do to make you feel better maybe a hug oh come 312 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:20,360 here oh there you 313 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:31,976 go by the end of the series we see how Fraser and Lilith have grown to have a meaningful friendship together with one 314 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:37,976 hand the past moves us forward and with the other it holds us back and Frasier in spite of Frederick 315 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:43,976 entering his goth phase in the final season still manages to have a connection with his son Andy ran into a 316 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:47,904 friend from her old school uh another boy she talked to me the 317 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:55,840 whole night I'm sorry son these things happened and well they 318 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:01,072 always think did it ever happen to you Dad it may 319 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:10,976 have Frasier in spite of the challenges of living on the other side of the country manages to hold on to the things 320 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:15,976 that matter most to him from his time in Boston it's a charmingly uplifting message of course there were some other 321 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:22,976 connections from Boston who also had cameos in the season 2 episode the show where Sam shows up Sam alone naturally 322 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:28,976 played by Ted Denson makes a surprise appearance in Seattle this episode also provides some interesting bits of trivia 323 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:34,976 such as highlighting how much David Hy Pierce looked like a young Kelsey gramar when he first appeared on Cheers wow man 324 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:39,736 this is freaky he looks just just like you did when I met you what happened 325 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:48,976 huh wasn't exactly a health club you were running there s we also get some plot holes addressed 326 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:54,976 such as the truth behind Fraser's father my father wanted me to go into psychology insisted on it at the time I 327 00:33:55,000 --> 00:34:00,760 hated him for it and he died before I had a chance to realize that he was right and I never 328 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:06,544 got to tell him he told me you were dead dad well we had had an argument 329 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:14,504 called me a stuffed shirt and hung up on me I was mad you're a cop you told me he was a 330 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:20,120 research scientist you were dead what did it matter in the episode the show where 331 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:27,976 Diane comes back we get a cameo from Shelley Long reprising her role as Diane Frasier's former fiance there was a very 332 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:33,976 brief Diane cameo in season 2 but it was this season 3 episode that really brought her back for a proper cheers 333 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:38,976 reunion complete with a Stage production this whole getting left at the altar thing I just don't know what I'm 334 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:42,456 supposed to be feeling I may be able to illuminate that 335 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:52,976 foil what you are feeling is that this woman has reached into your chest plucked out your heart and thrown it to 336 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:59,976 her hell hounds for a chew toy the episode off first Fraser the chance to get some real closure with Diane after 337 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,267 over a decade of bitterness goodbye 338 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:07,040 Diane goodbye 339 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:19,392 frasia for I have it in season six Woody harelson once 340 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:26,976 again took up the role of Woody Boyd in an episode you'll be shocked to learn was called the show where Woody shows up 341 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:32,976 up this episode really seemed to tie a bow on the idea that Frasier was no longer a spin-off and had cemented its 342 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:37,976 own identity in case four and a half successful Seasons wasn't enough I've moved on to bigger and better things in 343 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:44,976 my life he's still pouring drinks back at the same bar he's been at for the last 15 years don't you think that's kind of sad 344 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:50,952 no offense but look at your life you you you live with your dad you hang out with your brother 345 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:56,672 you well just the other day I was thinking about your life and all I could 346 00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:00,008 think was what how lucky you are you see you you 347 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:11,976 found where you belong and you've made your home there I guess for some of us it just takes longer than 348 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,800 others Cheers Cheers the last of the cheers 349 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:23,976 reunions is also the only one with an original name cheerful goodbyes this brought back Cliff claven played by John 350 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:29,976 ratzenberger Norm Peterson played by George went and car Maria Victoria Angelina Teresa abalonia lupon torelli 351 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:36,976 Lebec played by Ria Pearlman of the cheers reunions this one is the most extensive and feels the least natural 352 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:41,976 even though it takes place in Boston there's no sign of the original Cheers Bar it also doesn't quite feel the same 353 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:46,976 without Sam Woody or Rebecca the interactions between the two casts are interesting but are mostly a novelty the 354 00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:52,976 presence of a guy who looks suspiciously like cheers director James buroughs who also directed 32 episodes of Frasier 355 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:57,976 along with cameos from a number of Cheers regulars makes the whole episode feel like a mesic celebration of the 356 00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:03,976 series that birthed Frasier it might have made for a good cheers reunion but it being an average episode of Frasier 357 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:08,976 speaks even further to how far apart these two shows of Grown the only principal cast member from cheers still 358 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:14,976 alive to not appear on Fraser at all was chrisy Ali it's been reported that the reason why was because Ally a practicing 359 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:20,976 Scientologist didn't approve of a show about Psychiatry when asked in an interview about why Ally hadn't appeared 360 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:25,672 on the show co-creator David Lee said I don't recall asking [Music] Martin 361 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:36,976 the original premise for Frasier was the building of a relationship between Frasier and his father Martin my brother and I a lot more like my mother you know 362 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:42,976 if it wasn't biologically impossible I'd swear that Dad was dropped in a basket on our doorstep many of the early 363 00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:50,976 episodes of the series include moments where Frasier and Martin make an effort to connect and it's a bit of a struggle for them so how about those Seahawks no 364 00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:54,904 Sports all right no Opera agreed Martin is the voice of reason 365 00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:01,976 when it comes to making things work look you want us to forge some great fatherson relationships to make some 366 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:08,400 connection well that kind of thing takes a couple of years not a couple of days doesn't it you're the 367 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:14,568 shrink couple of years huh it'll go by before you know it either that or it'll seem like 368 00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:22,976 eternity importantly Martin's not just being roped into a pet project of frasers to mend their relationship he 369 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:28,976 wants to reconnect as well and rather than through Frasier's exercises growing closer comes about just by them being 370 00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:33,976 together more often creating new opportunities to learn about one another it seems like a tall order with Martin 371 00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:39,976 being so unlike his sons but Kelsey Grammar summed up the dynamic nicely saying people always ask how Frasier and 372 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:44,976 Niles came from a father like Martin Martin's in public service into knowing what's right and wrong that's exactly 373 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:51,976 what his sons were on the simplest level he was a good man and their Hope was to become the same thing one sweet example 374 00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:56,976 is in the episode Martin does it his way where the crane men Bond while trying to piece together a song Martin and written 375 00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:01,864 decades previously he was hoping to send to Frank Sinatra she's such a groovy 376 00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:06,712 lady she makes my heart godey she is the chck I SP my night 377 00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:15,976 dreaming while many of the bonding moments were like this the series also didn't shy away from other types of 378 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:21,976 bonding in Beloved Infidel a secret is revealed about Martin and an old family friend look don't bother calling an 379 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,467 Vivian you want to know the truth fine 380 00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:33,184 I had an affair it happened a long time ago and it's not anything I'm proud of but 381 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:38,992 eventually Frasier finds out the truth Frasier your mother was a good person so 382 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:45,376 was my husband they made a mistake and the two have something to connect over I never 383 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:51,928 told you this but um Lilith did the same thing to me Lilith had an affair it's 384 00:39:54,000 --> 00:40:00,464 the most painful and humiliating experience of my entire life well I'm sure you felt the same way well 385 00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:06,696 I hadn't thought about it for quite some time but thanks for reminding me look son do me a 386 00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:10,133 favor don't hate your mother for 387 00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:18,976 this I wasn't the easiest person to live with back then and she had plenty of reason for doing what she 388 00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:25,272 did luckily we were able to put it behind us but I'll tell you there were times when it really tore 389 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:27,440 me up I loved your 390 00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:39,976 mother so did I ever since you moved in here we've been trying to find something we have in common and I I think we 391 00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:43,200 finally found it yeah wish it was a birthmark so do 392 00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:52,976 I the idea of bonding over trauma is a good one and the family connection makes it even stronger helping Forge this 393 00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:59,976 connection Martin and Frasier were hoping for and by the fourth season we started to see this father son relationship take real shape in our 394 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:05,976 father whose art ain't Heaven Frasier refuses a gift from Martin and we see what that just meant to the guy you 395 00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:13,976 don't like it I'll take it back oh thank god dad thank you that's such a relief you know I was up half the night worried about it and I 396 00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:17,392 just Dad are you all right well I didn't upset you did 397 00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,533 I my god dad are you crying no no oh my 398 00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:29,480 God I made my father that all you start and Frasier wasn't the only son 399 00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,000 connecting to Martin D are you 400 00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:40,096 crying Fraser what H oh my God you're crying too why is everybody 401 00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:48,976 crying you know how I get when other people cry tell me what happened even the small gestures reveal how the two of 402 00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:54,440 them have grown closer together mom's a hard act to follow we knew we were meant to be 403 00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:59,328 together and that was that it's hard to find that out 404 00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:08,224 there I've been trying for a while you'll get there this all raises 405 00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:17,976 some interesting questions about the show if by the halfway point the main premise of a father and son reconnecting 406 00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:23,976 had already reached its conclusion what's to be done with Martin to understand Martin though it's important 407 00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:28,976 to take a step back and understand who his character is aside from his relationship with Frasier Martin is 408 00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:34,976 often positioned on the show as the average guy the working class every man most of the audience can relate to 409 00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:40,976 except Martin isn't really the average blue collar worker he's presented as he's a former cop and that has an impact 410 00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:47,912 on how he sees the world here's a brief example of his politics how could you support that odious little hose 411 00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:53,976 head I once heard him say cancer aside tobacco is good for the economy he's going to put more cops on 412 00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:59,976 the street when Frasier is dealing with a con man in episode fool me once shame on you fool me twice Martin makes his 413 00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:05,976 feelings about people in general clear this world would be a happier place if everybody had remember two little words 414 00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:11,976 people stink although we only get vague references to Martin's life before he became a cop his time working for the 415 00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:16,976 forest has certainly cemented the idea that people are generally bad and need the firm hand of the police to keep them 416 00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:21,976 in check throughout the series Martin is softened quite a bit becoming more werse in the Finer Things in life thanks to 417 00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:27,976 his time with Frasier and becoming a Kinder gentler person as a result of having a stronger home life and connection with his sons but his 418 00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:33,976 attitudes towards people more broadly doesn't change too much he can't share Frasier's optimism that people are 419 00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:38,976 generally good and when he's given the opportunity to offer some forgiveness of his own he can't bring himself to do it 420 00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:44,976 in the season 8 episode a day in May Martin attends the parole hearing of the guy who shot him even after speaking 421 00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:52,616 with the man's mother Martin can't bring himself to make a statement in favor of his release the victim is here Mr Crane 422 00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:55,200 would you like to make a statement 423 00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:05,976 I have nothing to say Martin doesn't have to forgive the guy who shot him but his rigidness here represents a side of 424 00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:10,976 him that he carries throughout the series this skepticism towards the idea that people can change for the better 425 00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:19,000 which is ironic concerning his own change throughout the series such as finally mustering the courage to tell his sons that he loves them a frasure 426 00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:36,200 rure I Love You 427 00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:47,976 Niles I love you Martin's struggle to connect with his sons and his cynicism towards Society present a man who is 428 00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:53,976 trapped in certain confining elements of masculinity we see Martin get angry when Eddie is playing with a doll or his deep 429 00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:58,976 discomfort when Frasier wants to talk about his concerns that he may be gay Martin has a very fixed idea of what it 430 00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:03,976 means to be a man in the world and it's what makes him miserable it may also be part of the reason he chose to become a 431 00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:09,976 police officer a job that reflects masculinity that drenched him in cynicism Martin is both a victim and a 432 00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:14,976 critique of the times he lived in and sometimes the show goes out of its way to present that to us here's Martino 433 00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:20,976 pining on women getting pregnant out of wedlock things have sure changed since my day back then if a girl got in 434 00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:26,976 trouble her family just ship her off to relatives in another state and if anybody asked this lied and you went to 435 00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:33,656 Europe then once you came back they'd raised the baby as a little sister not like today we had morals and 436 00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:41,616 values back then in later seasons of the series Martin began something close to a Redemption Arc In The Return of Martin 437 00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:47,976 crane we see Martin leave his early retirement to rejoin the Working World as a security guard although not exactly 438 00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:54,976 quite the high stakes job of his younger days it does let him reclaim part of his life by feeling like he's part of society it's not as though he's in dire 439 00:45:55,000 --> 00:46:00,976 need of assistance with him being quite happy living with Frasier but Martin needs something to feel like he isn't just slipping into the back pocket of 440 00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:07,976 someone else's life and adorably part of Martin reasserted himself often involves treating his sons like kids I'm going to 441 00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:10,400 work now I'll be home late don't wait 442 00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:19,976 up this happened throughout the series and was one of the few ways Martin would assert control over his life Martin's 443 00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:24,976 dating life was the subject throughout the series while he had had some success with women it wasn't until the show's 444 00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:30,976 final season that he met Ronnie Lawrence played by Wendy Malik a former babysitter of Fraser and Niles how are 445 00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:35,864 you Mr Craig it's Marty and I'm just great you haven't changed a bit oh yes I 446 00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:40,968 have I can legally drink now it's a bit strange considering the 447 00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:49,976 dynamic they used to have though it has been over 30 years since Ronnie was a teenage babysitter working for the cranes even so Martin still feels a bit 448 00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:54,928 insecure she's young she's got all these guys after her and I'm lucky she even 449 00:46:55,000 --> 00:47:01,976 gave me a Second Glance I don't want to blow it by looking like some desperate old guy with no options it's not 450 00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:06,976 desperate to tell somebody how you feel about them what if she doesn't feel the same way but if she does and you never 451 00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:13,976 find out Martin eventually tells Ronnie how strongly he feels about her and the two grow closer throughout the final season at the beginning of the series 452 00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:20,976 Martin is a crotchety old man with a funny dog who lives alone with no real connections aside from his old buddies on the police force by the end he's 453 00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:26,976 reconnected with his sons found new family in Daphne and Ros managed to find his first lasting relationships since 454 00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:31,976 his wife passed away a new Purpose with a new job and he still has that funny dog Martin wasn't quite the Everyman 455 00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:36,976 because it's difficult to believe that the average man lives a life quite as tragic as his had been in that first 456 00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:42,976 episode and one drenched in so much cynicism and bitterness towards the World At Large but by making him the 457 00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:47,976 every man and highlighting his journey it reveals that life can still change even in old age in some of the most dire 458 00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:53,976 of circumstances that you can discover a new reason to wake up every morning Martin still carries the baggage of a 459 00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:59,976 cynical cop who's been shaped into someone suspicious of the world around him but by learning to find the good in his life from family and new friends 460 00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:06,784 he's at least found some kind of Happiness Frasier writer Joe Keenan explains this saying Martin could have 461 00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:12,976 stepped out of an Arthur Miller play the guy's lost everything he's loved his wife job Independence he has nothing 462 00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:19,976 left but his dog chair and two sons he feels looked down on him watching him warm up to them gave the show its sweetest most hopeful long-term Arc and 463 00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:25,976 the episode Freudian sleep the cast of the show minus Ros have a series of bizarre nightmares while staying at a 464 00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:30,976 house in the mountain when we peer into Martin's dreams though they take a different 465 00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:32,040 [Music] Eddie 466 00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:47,976 tone of all the sections this one was a bit of a struggle as Eddie is the character steeped in the most scandalous 467 00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:53,976 of controversies I should acknowledge first one of the big ones that he has had a longstanding feud with a certain 468 00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:59,976 type of bird is this vicious blue J on the terrrace who keeps teasing him then Eddie goes chasing after him and slams 469 00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:05,976 into that glass door and this bird just struts around big as you please laughing that snoody bird 470 00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:09,584 laugh snoody bird laugh yeah like that I'd like to remind 471 00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:17,976 my audience that we aren't hearing the bird side of the story for this incident so please don't rush to Judgment of this 472 00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:23,976 particular blue jay behind the scenes there was also ongoing drama between the dogs who played Eddie moose and his son 473 00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:28,976 Enzo co-creator Peter Casey explains moose Mo and Enzo hated each other they couldn't be on the set together 474 00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:34,976 apparently it was one of those classic parent child Hollywood rivalries even with all this controversy swirling about 475 00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:40,976 there were a number of wonderful Eddy moments much of this should be credited to his trainer mati de Kagney she even 476 00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:45,800 got a nod in one of the episodes the finest jilda ever sung was by the great 477 00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:52,976 Matilda dag it's difficult to analyze the majesty and depth of the Eddie character so I won't go into too much 478 00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:58,976 more detail aside from the fact that throughout the series he was questionably and unwaveringly a very 479 00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:05,976 good boy there were also the revelations in his groundbreaking biography the details of which can be safely passed 480 00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:13,040 over in this video you can SE this book out if you're curious to learn more about this [Music] Farce in Frasier 481 00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:20,976 pup one of the signature styles of Frasier was its use of farce these comedies of erors revolved around a 482 00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:26,976 misunderstanding or misunderstandings spiraling out of control an early example is the episode The Matchmaker 483 00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:32,632 where Fraser's new boss thinks he's gay that's a hell of a view it's even better from the 484 00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:41,928 bedroom why don't we just start with a drink another would be the inke keepers 485 00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:47,976 where Frasier and Niles open a restaurant together n how are those heels coming I'm just triing them now oh 486 00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:53,120 no take them out of the tank not till I'm sure they're dead oh for heaven's sakes 487 00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:08,168 or the much beloved ham radio where Frasier stages a radio play the grizzly business Miss thik I can't believe my 488 00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:12,456 girl could be a mob M but the most fondly remembered of 489 00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:19,928 these episodes so much so that it's the favorite of many fans is the ski lodge 490 00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:25,976 after Ros wins a freeze trip to a ski lodge Frasier convinced cers to sell it to him so he takes Niles Martin Daffney 491 00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:31,976 and Daphne's friend Annie played by Cynthia L monang to enjoy a ski trip complete with ski in trctor ghee played 492 00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:36,864 by James Patrick Stewart this episode featured an elaborate Ski Lodge set one 493 00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:41,976 of only two that was so big it was built in front of the main set of Fraser's apartment the basic idea of this episode 494 00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:48,976 is that everyone aside from Martin is attracted to another person in that Ski Lodge only no one seems to know who is 495 00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:55,976 into who Frasier is into Annie Annie is into Niles Niles is of course into Daphne Daphne is into gee and GE is into 496 00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:59,008 n some misunderstandings lead to a few memorable 497 00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:05,933 moments Freer I'm sorry wrong 498 00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:15,712 room ke you're not a crane I want you're not even the sex I 499 00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:20,900 want all the lust coursing through this lodge 500 00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:27,392 tonight all the hormones virtually ricocheting off the 501 00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:33,264 walls and no one what's chasing me it's all absurdly 502 00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:44,976 convoluted yet somehow still manages to work the writer for the episode David Lee explains why this episode worked so 503 00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:50,976 well the motivations always have to be absolutely real it helps if they come from the heart they can also come from 504 00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:55,976 lower on the anatomy which they often do but what really gets the audience engaged is when they care about the 505 00:52:56,000 --> 00:53:00,992 characters in this case it was Niles's feelings that you cared Niles and Daphne 506 00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:07,976 about Niles and Daphne are probably the most important relationship in the series being the only long running story 507 00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:13,976 arc that lasts throughout the whole show and one that was featured in its most watched episode Niles and Daphne first 508 00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:19,976 meet in the third episode of the series dinner at 8 although Daphne happily acknowledges him Niles's reaction is a 509 00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:24,672 bit more extreme you're Dean why yes I am when Fraser told me he' hired an 510 00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:31,160 English woman I pictured someone a little more not quite so you're 511 00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:37,976 Dean the complication here is that Niles is very much a married man to the Unseen 512 00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:44,144 Maris which doesn't stop him from making certain overtures hi ho DNE you're looking luminous this 513 00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:49,672 evening well thank you Dr crane what's in the bag uh just a little treat I 514 00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:54,672 picked up for Dad some deure clotted cream Poor Dad and love Devon clotted 515 00:53:57,000 --> 00:54:03,976 cream isn't that lucky you two can share it the Niles and Daffney relationship would continue like this in the early seasons of the show though at first it 516 00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:08,976 wasn't supposed to happen at all in interviews David Hy Pierce would tell the story of how while doing press for 517 00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:14,976 the show before production began Jane leaves would mention the idea that perhaps staf and Niles should get together this manifested on the writing 518 00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:20,976 side in its own way writer producer and flet gordano explains an encounter with sirious producer Christopher Lloyd early 519 00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:26,976 in the first season Niles comes to the apartment Chris realizing that Niles would be meeting dfy for the first time 520 00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:32,976 said what if he had a crazy crush on her and it was here this multi-year Crush began with many delightful 521 00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:39,976 misunderstandings this is one of me psychic headaches there's some kind of negative Force out there I only get 522 00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:46,248 these when there's a clawing at the cosmic Continuum perhaps if someone rubbed your 523 00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:51,976 temples my goodness Dr crane shouldn't you be out there mixing oh don't mind me 524 00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:57,976 I'm just getting some ice lovely party crane is always dropping by and bringing me little gifts 525 00:54:58,000 --> 00:54:59,440 and he's not after 526 00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:09,976 anything although Charming in their execution there's something a bit strange about a married man drilling over his father's physical therapist 527 00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:14,976 although it might make Niles appear like a brute to his wife David Hyde Pierce performed the character in a way that 528 00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:21,976 made his love for Maris clear writer Joe Keenan explains no matter how ludicrous our descriptions got David made Niles's 529 00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:27,976 feelings about the marriage very real he knew that if Niles didn't love Maris there'd be no reason for us to Care when she divorced him or for Niles to feel 530 00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:33,976 conflicted and hide his love for Daphne that can be seen in episodes such as una Affair To Forget Where Niles confronts 531 00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:40,976 maris's fening instructor gunar over an affair Nile suspects gunar is having with Maris luckily for Niles he finds 532 00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:44,392 out Maris has remained faithful oh but she refused him 533 00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:57,976 really the early flirtations between Niles and Daphne with the Spectre of Maris around them in spite of that 534 00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:03,976 barrier to them being together there's still an obvious chemistry between them in the first Seasons a midwinter Night 535 00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:09,888 Dream a storm traps Daffy at nil's Mansion while Maris is in Arizona well it's not that bad a 536 00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:15,900 storm oh Maris I really think you should come 537 00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:27,976 home no no well of course I don't want you traveling if it's if it's not safe as Comforts Daphne after a recent 538 00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:29,440 breakup things get 539 00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:35,900 [Music] heated Dr creane your glocken Spiel is 540 00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:41,000 sprung to 541 00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:49,680 life oh the clock Maris 542 00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:58,600 you really love her don't you you know I 543 00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:07,544 do love is a funny thing isn't it sometimes it's exciting and passionate 544 00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:12,288 and sometimes it's something else something comfortable and familiar 545 00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:19,976 David Hy Pierce describes Niles's attraction to Daphney saying I think she's just an exotic flower to him and 546 00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:24,976 she's so beautiful and it's so unusual for him to be treated by a woman with such friendliness that he's overwhelmed 547 00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:29,976 by that openess because Maris is so manipulative and difficult Niles and maris's marriage over the years 548 00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:36,976 deteriorates leading to separation and then eventually divorce it never sounded particularly happy but whatever it was 549 00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:42,976 was enough for Niles that is until the arrival of Daphne which introduced something new and different to him at 550 00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:48,976 first it could simply be the echo of a wealthy man L seen after a woman of a lower class A Very Old Trope and seen in 551 00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:54,976 classic works of literature such as Pamela class has a very strange place in this relationship though as we never see 552 00:57:55,000 --> 00:58:01,976 Niles consider Daphne beneath him rather he just seems her as different and enticing the timing of Niles and maris's 553 00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:06,976 divorce a few years after the arrival of Daphne does suggest that the idea of something more may have fueled its end 554 00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:13,976 at some level but the series never makes That explicit the closest sign we get is when during his separation Niles takes 555 00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:18,976 Daphne to a ball in the episode Moon dance what started off as an evening to show Niles's friends he wasn't sulking 556 00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:23,928 over Maris become something more than that let it out Niles let everything out 557 00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:26,680 oh Dy I adore [Music] 558 00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:32,520 you I adore you too 559 00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:48,296 what Niles is on the cusp of getting swept away with Daphne until he learns the truth I knew you were a good dancer 560 00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:51,867 but I had no idea you were such a good actor 561 00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:58,672 actor DNE you're a goddess daffne I adore you we fooled everyone didn't we 562 00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:05,733 oh oh we certainly did didn't we a crucial 563 00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:13,976 part of this episode is that Niles brought Daphne to impress his snoody high society friends the idea that Niles 564 00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:20,976 would show up with someone of a lower class to impress a bunch of snobs doesn't really make sense though it does reveal that when it comes to Daphne n 565 00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:26,976 sees her for more than who she is in her social standing her being a beautiful woman I'm sure helps as well although 566 00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:31,976 Niles clearly has romantic feelings for Daphne part of what keeps it from getting too creepy is that ultimately he 567 00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:37,976 cares about her as a person he may want to be with her but he also wants her to be happy before his divorce with Maris 568 00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:43,976 we see this in the episode Kisses Sweeter than Wine Niles reluctantly helps stafne connect with his handyman 569 00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:47,264 Joe thanks staff oh I got a spark me too that's just 570 00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:55,568 static electricity from the carpet can happen to anyone if you had ever smelled her hair 571 00:59:57,000 --> 01:00:03,400 you'd know she's worth at least one more try Joe told me what you did I think that's the nicest thing 572 01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:08,544 anyone's ever done for me thank you oh did you feel that we made a spark 573 01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:15,736 oh yes we did I guess you were right it is just the carpet next season when 574 01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:21,976 Daphne breaks up with Joe for good the separated Niles and daffany have a nice talk I would have said is this seat 575 01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:27,056 taken and you would have said no and you would have said my name is Daphne and I 576 01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:31,392 would have said my name is Niles and then I would have 577 01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:39,056 said what are you doing for the rest of your life you always know just the right 578 01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:41,933 thing to say oh I love you Dr 579 01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:51,976 crane I love you too Deanie unrequited love is one of the oldest tropes in English literature it 580 01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:57,976 can be traced back to the medieval concept of courtly love which would often entail a man's desire for an unavailable woman although when it comes 581 01:00:58,000 --> 01:01:03,976 to women of a lower class whether or not she's unavailable never quite enters into the equation in this instance it 582 01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:09,976 actually subverts that expectation Niles doesn't see Daphne as a lower class woman he can take advantage of but as an 583 01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:15,976 equal or someone even greater than himself it's a bit strange to square the idea that Daphne who clearly understands 584 01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:20,976 and cares for Niles as a friend is still somehow oblivious to his attraction towards her Jane leaves explains why 585 01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:27,976 from her own perspective you know I've always played that she knows somewhere in the back of it head but it's too scary to deal with cuz he's Niles and 586 01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:35,552 he's you know Posh and and he had Maris and money and you know what's he doing going for a Girl Like DNE this old Trope 587 01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:41,976 of pining for an oblivious woman can create many great episodes and moments as the series so easily demonstrates but 588 01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:47,976 it does also carry with it a more pernicious element and that's the objectification of Daphne by objectification I don't mean in the more 589 01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:52,976 commonly understood sense of highlighted a woman's physical form over her character Daphne wasn't really 590 01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:58,976 objectified in that way at least not that often what I mean is all those delightful moments where Nile SPS over 591 01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:04,976 an oblivious dhany are effectively removing her from the scene as a full character let me show you it's all in 592 01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:12,040 the tongue that's right just purse your lips and Puck her up like a little goldfish I'll it just like that very 593 01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:15,000 good you got 594 01:02:21,000 --> 01:02:24,136 it NES what are you doing I'm learning how to blow 595 01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:32,976 smoke where when Niles and Daphne have one of these cute little moments there are two conversations happening the 596 01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:38,976 obvious one in which Daphne is showing Niles how to blow a smoke ring and the subtextual one of Niles getting turned 597 01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:43,976 on by Daphne in many of these moments these scenes don't just include Daphne and Niles but also have Frasier Martin 598 01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:49,976 present to underscore what's going on it isn't just Niles drifting off into a world of fantasy it's a secret 599 01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:55,976 conversation happening between the crane men even a conversation that's little more than a few weighted Clans es 600 01:02:56,000 --> 01:03:01,976 looking at the two layers of these moments Niles and the other man operate on both while daap only operates on one 601 01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:07,976 in that second later she is present but not as an active participant but rather an unthinking element to be played 602 01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:14,976 against like a prop or an object the show itself acknowledges this dynamic in the episode perspectives on Christmas 603 01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:21,976 where each of the characters describe a disastrous Christmas from their own points of view here's how Martin observed one of those moments afternoon 604 01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:26,544 all hello D oh that's awfully dangerous Daphne standing there under that 605 01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:32,824 mistletoe enough eggnog and here's how that same moment played out from Daphne's perspective 606 01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:38,736 afternoon all hello d d That's awfully dangerous Daphne standing under that 607 01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:43,928 mistletoe a piece could fall into your eye let me fres your drink and the show 608 01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:49,976 certainly doesn't shy away from making fun of her with moments like this you know it's always so obvious when a man 609 01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:53,776 likes a woman you can just tell by his awkward body language 610 01:03:55,000 --> 01:04:01,400 shifting in his chair he doesn't know quite what to do with his hands he's as nervous as a hen oh for 611 01:04:04,000 --> 01:04:09,976 God's sake stop fidgeting in the early Seasons this was a common trend for Daphne unfortunately she was such a 612 01:04:10,000 --> 01:04:14,976 charmingly offbeat character that existed purely as you saw her without much of an interior life even stories 613 01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:20,976 that focused on her such as her having her boyfriend spend the night at Fraser's apartment with her ended up becoming stories more focused on other 614 01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:26,976 characters in this case Frasier and his anxiety about Daphne having a man over this can be seen in a comment from 615 01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:32,976 Christopher Lloyd he's describing why Niles and Daphne work as a couple I thought could it be because she's so 616 01:04:33,000 --> 01:04:37,976 different than he is he's upper class and she's working class she says what's on her mind and he's restrained and 617 01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:42,976 thoughtful Jane Le did have some say in making daphia more interesting character over the years even filling in some of 618 01:04:43,000 --> 01:04:48,976 her backstory she explained in an interview dafine was like a pair of comfy shoes she had a sort of earthiness 619 01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:54,976 and honesty that definitely came from me I told the writers that a girl who's comfortable around these men who doesn't take any of their crap must come from 620 01:04:55,000 --> 01:05:00,976 household filled with men in one of the more ironic twists of the series by being actively pursued by Niles instead 621 01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:05,976 of him just loving her from afar Daphne started to become a more well-rounded character as Niles's divorce with Maris 622 01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:10,976 starts to get messy he decides to change his legal representation from a high price Law Firm to one of R's 623 01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:17,976 ex-boyfriends Donnie Douglas played by Saul Ruben and while he offers an immediate reversal of Fortune for nil's 624 01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:23,976 finances netting him a nice settlement Donnie's presence also has another unexpected consequence who understands 625 01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:29,440 why anything happens I mean it's remarkable how completely one's life can change in an 626 01:05:31,000 --> 01:05:37,976 instant poor NES it's over the next season and a half things start getting messy with Donnie and Daphne getting 627 01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:44,976 engaged and Nile starting to date Mel played by Jane Adams a plastic surgeon who had worked extensively on Maris you 628 01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:49,032 must think I'm terribly fussy yes one day though a pulled muscle 629 01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:54,352 in Fraser's back changes everything what's the matter my back oh it's 630 01:05:58,000 --> 01:06:03,976 completely seized up while he sit in in on of all places Martin's chair Frasier ruminates about his 631 01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:07,520 life I really do love Daphne a terrified Daphne tries to 632 01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:12,800 confirm the issue with Martin it's about Dr 633 01:06:15,000 --> 01:06:20,312 crane I overheard him say he's in love with me what and he wants to show me how much 634 01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:28,912 he loves me while he still has the chance oh jeez not is you knew about this I'm not getting in the middle of 635 01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:33,976 this then it's true look I kept my mouth shut for 6 years I'm not saying anything 636 01:06:34,000 --> 01:06:39,976 after taking some medication Frasier asks stafanie for a massage which gets pretty awkward but eventually the 637 01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:46,976 misunderstanding is partially revealed you you see when I said how much I I cared about you I didn't mean it in a 638 01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:52,504 romantic sense then you don't love me oh no of course I love you Deanie but as a friend 639 01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:57,904 that's all oh oh oh thank God and everything is fine until the 640 01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:05,864 meds Fraser Tu start to kick in when I said to your father Dr Crane's In Love 641 01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:10,864 with me he said it's been going on for six years now what did he mean by that 642 01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:13,360 oh was that he me 643 01:07:18,000 --> 01:07:19,867 NES what no he's crazy about 644 01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:29,976 you Fraser doesn't remember spilling the beans and it appears daap has learned the truth with everyone else none the 645 01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:34,992 wiser but Niles is a little more astute than everyone else good evening Dean Dr 646 01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:42,416 crane you look different somehow have you done something new with your 647 01:07:43,000 --> 01:07:47,608 hair oh oh that must be it while dating Donnie daffany had gradually been 648 01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:54,976 revealing more of herself we learned more about her life in Manchester and about the things that made her happy but 649 01:07:55,000 --> 01:07:59,976 this is the moment that really made her come to life as a character maybe it's the simple fact that having a secret 650 01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:04,976 reveals an interior life and one that puts her on par with the other characters around her in some ways it 651 01:08:05,000 --> 01:08:09,976 even gives her an edge since they don't know that she knows the truth about Niles's feelings for her we can see that 652 01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:15,976 inversion very clearly in moments where Dy and Niles have their roles reversed in those little moments of subtext you 653 01:08:16,000 --> 01:08:23,168 have to be careful those pen handles get awfully hot well not anymore it's got a protective coating of skin on it 654 01:08:25,000 --> 01:08:27,600 just give it a minute to absorb it'll be 655 01:08:30,000 --> 01:08:32,200 fine feeling better already thanks 656 01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:40,800 G hey what's up nothing it's fitting that Niles being an old handed this can 657 01:08:42,000 --> 01:08:48,976 sense something as a mess I burned my hand while I was cooking and she began putting first aid cream on it in a a 658 01:08:49,000 --> 01:08:53,800 very tender way and then uh dad came in and she jumped as if she felt guilty 659 01:08:55,000 --> 01:08:58,264 is it possible Daphne has feelings for me [Laughter] 660 01:09:02,000 --> 01:09:08,976 no oh well as long as you've considered it from all angles things finally reach a boiling point with the season 7 finale 661 01:09:09,000 --> 01:09:14,976 and two-parter Something Borrowed someone blue Daphne's wetty and is fast approaching and she needs to get some 662 01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:19,800 things off her chest it's about your brother you see I know know what I know 663 01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:25,072 about his feelings for me my God how did you find 664 01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:32,467 out who was the Ning gossip RZ dad you 665 01:09:35,000 --> 01:09:40,976 what you were taking those pills for your back and you blurted it out while I was giving you a massage oh well they 666 01:09:41,000 --> 01:09:45,736 were very strong pilles here after a while I couldn't put it out of my mind 667 01:09:46,000 --> 01:09:49,392 anymore I found myself thinking about him all the time 668 01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:58,440 DNE are you saying that you you have feelings for Niles I think I do unfortunately for 669 01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:06,208 Daphne Niles and Mel have some news of their own we can't keep something like this a secret we got 670 01:10:09,000 --> 01:10:15,912 married did you before the wedding Frasier notices how Niles and Daphne look at one another and he decides to 671 01:10:16,000 --> 01:10:19,520 confront Niles she knows what Daphne knows that you have 672 01:10:21,000 --> 01:10:26,976 feelings for her she's known for some time I knew you thought my marriage to me was Hasty but to poison it like this 673 01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:32,976 I'm not going to listen to this NES defitely feels the same way about you she told me as much the other day 674 01:10:33,000 --> 01:10:38,976 and then she denied it once you got married but I saw the way she was looking at you downstairs just 675 01:10:39,000 --> 01:10:45,400 now oh my God NES I'm not in the habit of breaking up people's marriages but how could I not tell you 676 01:10:46,000 --> 01:10:52,976 you're my brother I love you this gives Niles the courage to finally tell Daphne the truth Daphne I'm glad he told me 677 01:10:53,000 --> 01:10:56,520 because I love you meant what I said when I said I would 678 01:10:59,000 --> 01:11:03,864 leave her that's crazy no no it's not crazy if you feel the same way I do but 679 01:11:05,000 --> 01:11:08,648 I need you to tell me and I can accept it if the answer is 680 01:11:11,000 --> 01:11:14,584 no how do you feel about me and minutes later she finally 681 01:11:16,000 --> 01:11:19,584 responds you know a lot of times oh for God sake Dr to CR 682 01:11:34,000 --> 01:11:38,288 I think you can call me Niles now although the episode seemed to end 683 01:11:40,000 --> 01:11:45,952 with Daphney deciding she can't leave Donnie luckily for all of us we still got a happy ending 684 01:11:47,000 --> 01:11:50,328 hello defy I was wondering if you might be free for a 685 01:11:54,000 --> 01:11:57,008 date my God yes after seven long years of seeing 686 01:11:59,000 --> 01:12:03,976 Niles and Daphne go from Awkward flotation to a romantic Escape it felt as though this story was reaching its 687 01:12:04,000 --> 01:12:09,976 Climax and that was reflected in the ratings as this was the most watched episode of Frasier seen by nearly 34 688 01:12:10,000 --> 01:12:15,976 million people in the United States Christopher Lloyd explains this moment when Niles kisses Daphne for the first 689 01:12:16,000 --> 01:12:21,976 time it gave me goosebumps I'd live with these characters for so long as did the audience and wanted that moment for them 690 01:12:22,000 --> 01:12:27,976 and David Hy Pierce shares his experience of the moment saying the the live audience's reaction when we kissed showed how completely involved they had 691 01:12:28,000 --> 01:12:33,976 become with these madeup people's lives and how much they wanted them to get together love stories often don't extend 692 01:12:34,000 --> 01:12:40,976 beyond the moment when two people finally get together and we simply expect them to live happily ever after but love isn't so simple in real life 693 01:12:41,000 --> 01:12:45,976 and sometimes the hardest stories to tell aren't about how a couple gets together but rather how that couple 694 01:12:46,000 --> 01:12:51,976 stays together the moment when Daffy and is get together is often cited as where Frasier starts going downhill and while 695 01:12:52,000 --> 01:12:57,976 ratings did begin to decline I would argue the quality was still certainly there only we weren't getting any more 696 01:12:58,000 --> 01:13:03,976 of those moments of hidden desire leading to a comedic misunderstanding we were going to see how this couple dealt with the idea of changing their lives on 697 01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:09,976 the spot for a chance at a love that might only come once in a lifetime sir co-creator David Lee elaborates when n 698 01:13:10,000 --> 01:13:15,976 and dney finally got together there was a certain tension gone that had been sustaining the series in ways we didn't 699 01:13:16,000 --> 01:13:20,976 understand when the eighth season began it picked up right where the finale left off with Niles and Daphne figuring out 700 01:13:21,000 --> 01:13:27,976 how to navigate lives they had just destroyed leaving your fiance on your wedding day and divorcing your wife on the fourth day of marriage does create 701 01:13:28,000 --> 01:13:33,976 some feelings of resentment these obstacles would be dealt with over the next couple of episodes but I want to highlight another important moment would 702 01:13:34,000 --> 01:13:41,424 you like some Sherry uh yes thanks DNE yeah all right I'll get your precious wedge of Brie and your water crackers no 703 01:13:42,000 --> 01:13:47,056 I meant would you like some Sherry oh lome thanks although Daphne had been close 704 01:13:50,000 --> 01:13:54,976 with the cranes it's only now we see her being treated more like family it's also a clear indicator that Fraser sees her 705 01:13:55,000 --> 01:14:00,976 as an equal she effectively marries into a higher class the episode even ends with Martin and Frasier putting together 706 01:14:01,000 --> 01:14:05,976 a special dinner for the new couple the biggest challenge to the Niles and Daphne relationship is how devoid it is 707 01:14:06,000 --> 01:14:11,976 of any real tension that it might end no one can doubt for a second that Niles is hopelessly devoted to her and Daphne 708 01:14:12,000 --> 01:14:16,976 seems to be quite taken with him as well this show plays a little with this idea when the stress of living up to n's 709 01:14:17,000 --> 01:14:21,976 expectations leads Daphney to gain a significant amount of weight behind the scenes this was done to accommodate Jane 710 01:14:22,000 --> 01:14:29,976 leaves' pregnancy but it did raise some interest questions but how two people can date when so much of it is based on a love that was built on years of pining 711 01:14:30,000 --> 01:14:35,976 how can reality ever live up to that when you and I first came together we decided to wait and get to know each 712 01:14:36,000 --> 01:14:41,976 other before bringing the relationship into the bedroom then as time went on you told me all these stories about how 713 01:14:42,000 --> 01:14:46,736 you'd pined for me for seven years how I'd been your unobtainable dream how 714 01:14:47,000 --> 01:14:53,976 could anybody live up to that although Niles takes this Revelation personally and the two have their first fight they 715 01:14:54,000 --> 01:14:58,976 reconcile before the end of the episode and the two managed to stay together for the rest of the series the episodes for 716 01:14:59,000 --> 01:15:04,976 Niles and Daphne that stand out the most are like this one though ones where tension arises and the relationship is 717 01:15:05,000 --> 01:15:09,976 threatened but at this point in the series it's Unthinkable that these two would ever break up and what tension is 718 01:15:10,000 --> 01:15:16,976 created is undercut because of that there's no will they or won't they it's very clear that they will and have in 719 01:15:17,000 --> 01:15:23,976 the same way Niles is utterly committed to Daphne the show is utterly committed to making this relationship work spending years showing how Niles Longs 720 01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:29,976 for her using moment to reveal how good the two of them are together and revealing how much they've always cared for one another although it's certainly 721 01:15:30,000 --> 01:15:35,976 possible to tell interesting stories but how a couple stays together the series haded The added pressure of years of buildup that might have felt like a 722 01:15:36,000 --> 01:15:41,976 cruel tease had Niles and Daffney broken up a year or two after getting together by season 9 in the episode The Proposal 723 01:15:42,000 --> 01:15:44,200 we get exactly that will you marry 724 01:15:47,000 --> 01:15:49,533 me oh Niles of course I will instead of 725 01:15:53,000 --> 01:15:58,760 a big lavish wedding Niles and D end up eloping in Las Vegas he never said you may kiss the 726 01:15:59,000 --> 01:16:00,680 bride you may kiss the 727 01:16:05,000 --> 01:16:10,976 bride the threats to Niles and Daphne are often external to the relationship such as when nil faces a medical 728 01:16:11,000 --> 01:16:16,976 emergency and is rushed to the hospital for an operation there is an anomaly in your EKG I'm going to have to check you 729 01:16:17,000 --> 01:16:19,944 into the hospital oh uh well H uh I guess I can 730 01:16:22,000 --> 01:16:27,696 clear my schedule uh how's uh how's tomorrow afternoon no no no Niles you need to go right 731 01:16:29,000 --> 01:16:34,976 now there's also the return of Maris who re-enters n's life after she accidentally murders her D boyfriend 732 01:16:35,000 --> 01:16:41,976 with a crossbow have just arrested Seattle socialite meis crane for the murder of her lover Argentine polo star 733 01:16:42,000 --> 01:16:47,976 estan Rojo the Niles and Daphne relationship is one that was defined by tension and once that inner tension was 734 01:16:48,000 --> 01:16:52,976 resolved went on to face a series of tensions from outside the relationship always chasing that earlier feeling 735 01:16:53,000 --> 01:16:58,976 although Niles and dafne are lovely together their onscreen Dynamic only occasionally explored that relationship 736 01:16:59,000 --> 01:17:04,976 instead we had exes near-death experiences and murder threatening to tear these two apart although Daphne and 737 01:17:05,000 --> 01:17:09,976 Niles had grown so much to be together their relationship never quite managed to do the same when people say Frasier 738 01:17:10,000 --> 01:17:14,976 changed after Niles and dfan got together they're right and change doesn't have to be a bad thing but when 739 01:17:15,000 --> 01:17:21,976 you go to a show in part for the exciting romantic tension and it's all gone you can't help but feel as though 740 01:17:22,000 --> 01:17:27,976 something has been lost and the new thing might appear if it seems to be an imitation of the old thing there is 741 01:17:28,000 --> 01:17:34,912 something to be said for seeing a happy couple together instead of one in constant conflict it just wasn't as 742 01:17:35,000 --> 01:17:40,976 enthralling as the pursuit it also highlights another way in which class manifests itself in the series Daphne 743 01:17:41,000 --> 01:17:46,976 and Niles on paper shouldn't work he's a rich psychiatrist and she's a kooky physical therapist but it does work in 744 01:17:47,000 --> 01:17:53,976 spite of this class divide and it serves as a reminder that true love is possible when you're willing to ignore the things that don't matter in this case social 745 01:17:54,000 --> 01:17:59,976 class because doing so opens a door to meeting someone who represents a whole new world of possibilities Jane Le 746 01:18:00,000 --> 01:18:05,976 describes it she is the complete opposite of anything he's ever known she's grounded and down to earth and 747 01:18:06,000 --> 01:18:12,976 that's just not the sort of person he's used to she's not out for herself like everybody else she's there to help others and it turns him on to see her 748 01:18:13,000 --> 01:18:18,976 rooting around under the sink and fixing things the only real journey left for them to take together is the one to Parenthood this isn't the ovulation kit 749 01:18:19,000 --> 01:18:22,328 it's the pregnancy test oh silly me they look so much 750 01:18:27,000 --> 01:18:32,976 we're pregnant although this is Daphne's first child in a way this is Nile's the second though the show never did answer 751 01:18:33,000 --> 01:18:37,736 what happened to that little bag of flow oh dear but Eddie that dingo's got 752 01:18:41,000 --> 01:18:43,900 your baby oh God or maybe we do Representation 753 01:18:47,000 --> 01:18:49,900 [Music] know Frasier was rightfully lauded as 754 01:18:53,000 --> 01:18:58,976 having a very strong record on depicting gay characters often tackling stereotypes headon David Hy Pierce 755 01:18:59,000 --> 01:19:04,976 explains it was never jokes at the expense of gay people we had gay people on staff David Lee one of the creators 756 01:19:05,000 --> 01:19:10,976 on the show is gay and so to me it was always acknowledging the preposterousness of stereotypes this 757 01:19:11,000 --> 01:19:15,976 Dynamic was well explained in Matt bomb's excellent video Frasier and sitcoms of the gay90s so give it a watch 758 01:19:16,000 --> 01:19:21,976 if you'd like to learn more about that instead I'd like to talk about some other forms of representation on the series NBC's lined up of sitcoms 759 01:19:22,000 --> 01:19:28,976 throughout much of the 9s which pry was a part of on Thursday's nights was overwhelmingly white and this wasn't an 760 01:19:29,000 --> 01:19:33,976 accident one of the executive producers of The Fresh Prince ofir Andy burwitz described what it was like to be 761 01:19:34,000 --> 01:19:39,976 producing one of the few sitcoms for NBC on prime time that had a black cast the knee-jerk response in the network was 762 01:19:40,000 --> 01:19:45,976 maybe we need more cast members on the show they never said white but curiously all the characters they proposed were 763 01:19:46,000 --> 01:19:51,976 white they believed a white audience wouldn't watch a black show this came after programs including The Cosby Show 764 01:19:52,000 --> 01:19:56,976 and The Jeffersons demonstrated the opposite but with cable channels attracting more of that TV audience big 765 01:19:57,000 --> 01:20:01,976 networks such as NBC started trying to appeal more to that white audience the only way they knew how making shows 766 01:20:02,000 --> 01:20:07,976 predominantly featuring white people none of this is to say that Frasier was a show built specifically to appeal to 767 01:20:08,000 --> 01:20:13,976 white people but it's certainly a fact that its makeup was a perfect fit for NBC reflected in as simple a change as 768 01:20:14,000 --> 01:20:19,976 suggesting the Latina housekeeper on the show's original pitch instead be an englishwoman Frasier had a strange 769 01:20:20,000 --> 01:20:26,976 relationship with race in that it says very little about it and the one time it does we get the episode something about 770 01:20:27,000 --> 01:20:32,976 Dr Mary in this episode Frasier's temporary replacement for Ros Mary played by Kim Kohl's starts getting too 771 01:20:33,000 --> 01:20:37,976 comfortable participating in the show and Fraser feels too awkward to tell her to ease up a little I know why you 772 01:20:38,000 --> 01:20:44,976 didn't say anything cuz she's black oh that's ridiculous dad race has nothing to do with it oh come now Frasier can't 773 01:20:45,000 --> 01:20:51,976 deny a certain measure of guilt living as you do in your exclusive Lily white World interestingly enough in this 774 01:20:52,000 --> 01:20:57,976 season 7 episode the first one to ever never mentioned race we get this line you know fras such a thing as being too 775 01:20:58,000 --> 01:21:03,976 sensitive about this stuff a scene with three white men talking about how perhaps white people are being too 776 01:21:04,000 --> 01:21:09,976 sensitive about racial issues is a very '90s moment we also have Frasier acting out a paranoid white guy fantasy of what 777 01:21:10,000 --> 01:21:15,056 it's like to disagree with a black woman so you want me to stay in my place Mass 778 01:21:20,000 --> 01:21:26,848 her she's not going to say m what am I getting too upy for you you Sherry willing Opera loving Armon wearing 779 01:21:27,000 --> 01:21:31,992 elitist you have no idea how difficult it is for a black woman in a white man's 780 01:21:36,000 --> 01:21:40,096 world Frasier I don't think so eventually Frasier comes clean and 781 01:21:41,000 --> 01:21:47,208 confesses the truth to Mary who of course takes it all in stride why didn't you just say something 782 01:21:48,000 --> 01:21:50,667 before well it's because you're black and 783 01:21:55,000 --> 01:22:01,784 the truth is I I was afraid that if I if I said something critical of you you you might react the wrong way 784 01:22:02,000 --> 01:22:07,976 and I feel just terrible about it all ends well as Mary's interjections made her so popular she's offered her own 785 01:22:08,000 --> 01:22:14,976 show a show with a white cast talking about race isn't impossible to do well a few years prior Roseanne did a masterful 786 01:22:15,000 --> 01:22:20,976 job with white men can't kiss Frasier is a sad reminder though that these topics can be clumsily handled in the hands of 787 01:22:21,000 --> 01:22:25,976 a creative team completely divorced from the experiences they're speaking to though it does reflect quite nicely the 788 01:22:26,000 --> 01:22:31,976 misplaced anxieties certain white people might feel when discussing race the show did fa slightly better over the years 789 01:22:32,000 --> 01:22:36,976 introducing the less stereotypical character of Cam Winston and having his mother Kora have a brief relationship 790 01:22:37,000 --> 01:22:42,976 with Martin but these are characters for whom race is incidental and they neatly fit into Frasier's upper class World 791 01:22:43,000 --> 01:22:48,976 another uncomfortable blind spot is the character of Maris which only makes sense because we never see her the show 792 01:22:49,000 --> 01:22:53,976 goes out of its way to describe how odd she is being an ays who is constantly engaging in surgeries and beauty 793 01:22:54,000 --> 01:23:00,976 treatments to keep herself looking young and beautiful in the episode to thine old self be true we find out Maris has 794 01:23:01,000 --> 01:23:05,976 been struggling with an eating disorder Maris was always chubby as a child her whole life she's been obsessed with 795 01:23:06,000 --> 01:23:12,976 keeping weight off the episode includes much discussion about how Maris has gained so much weight that she's gone from dangerously thin to Dangerously 796 01:23:13,000 --> 01:23:18,976 overweight in both cases it's played for a laugh something must have snapped but literally when she saw me she swallowed 797 01:23:19,000 --> 01:23:24,976 and her necklace exploded from the pressure not being able to see Maris has always made it easy to create this 798 01:23:25,000 --> 01:23:30,976 bizarre entity to drive comedy but if we could see her in this moment eating away her misery that Niles has moved on 799 01:23:31,000 --> 01:23:36,976 without her I imagine we'd probably feel more pity than anything else it puts in Stark relief all the other times Maris 800 01:23:37,000 --> 01:23:43,976 was described as being too light to leave footprints in the snow or her weight being so small in her youth that Frasier is amazed she was even alive a 801 01:23:44,000 --> 01:23:48,976 person that small and frail probably wouldn't be nearly as funny if you saw her in the flesh and you could see what 802 01:23:49,000 --> 01:23:54,976 her eating disorder is doing to her this along with Frasier's record on Race underscores one of the the sad truths 803 01:23:55,000 --> 01:23:59,976 about the series it's a show about white men that struggles to see anything outside that perspective and by not 804 01:24:00,000 --> 01:24:04,976 acknowledging those other perspectives makes hay out of struggles that feel like laughing down what keeps these 805 01:24:05,000 --> 01:24:10,976 episodes from getting too uncomfortable is how class acts as something of a barrier to disguise what's happening in 806 01:24:11,000 --> 01:24:15,976 something about Dr Mary it can be argued that the comedy comes from Frasier's lack of perspective outside of his upper 807 01:24:16,000 --> 01:24:21,976 class world even if the Mary character reads like a stereotype in the case of Maris her obscene wealth makes her far 808 01:24:22,000 --> 01:24:27,976 less empathetic a character even though her disorder is incredibly tragic in both cases it's the status of the 809 01:24:28,000 --> 01:24:34,976 characters that informs the audience that it's okay to laugh at what's happening it's another way in which class is a barrier to feeling empathy Roz 810 01:24:35,000 --> 01:24:40,976 something core to the character or Frasier I'm certainly not saying we shouldn't laugh at the rich imp powerful 811 01:24:41,000 --> 01:24:46,976 in fact i' say we should ER on the side of laughing at them more but it is worth considering why we're laughing whether 812 01:24:47,000 --> 01:24:52,976 it's for the silly excesses of the wealthy or the problems that impact people across class lines 813 01:24:53,000 --> 01:24:54,000 [Music] 814 01:24:58,000 --> 01:25:03,976 Ros Doyle is a tough character to pin down particularly in the beginning of the series Frasier needed someone to 815 01:25:04,000 --> 01:25:08,976 interact with as part of his radio show but only a few small details about the character really existed when Perry 816 01:25:09,000 --> 01:25:13,976 Gilpin got the role she was told by the creative team that they weren't really sure who Ros was as a character leaving 817 01:25:14,000 --> 01:25:19,976 her wide open to the actress's interpretation guilpin once said in an interview I imagined Ros constantly 818 01:25:20,000 --> 01:25:24,976 trying to live up to a forceful mother actually based a lot of her on a really good friend of mine she's super smart 819 01:25:25,000 --> 01:25:30,976 self- dependent sexually adventurous and honest about it although this might have let her devolve into a cliche she 820 01:25:31,000 --> 01:25:35,976 managed to be a sexually active career woman without becoming a negative stereotype in the episode raw in the 821 01:25:36,000 --> 01:25:42,976 doghouse we see Bulldog the Perpetual sexual harasser at the station appeal to Ros for her producing talents I did not 822 01:25:43,000 --> 01:25:48,120 sleep with bulldog he didn't even hit on me I did want something though wanted me 823 01:25:49,000 --> 01:25:53,544 to leave you and come be his new producer well I wonder why he said that 824 01:25:56,000 --> 01:26:01,976 eventually we find out Frasier's suspicions to be true and Ros is quick to stand up to Bulldog get out I ask you 825 01:26:02,000 --> 01:26:08,976 here to work you disgusting horor hey hey hey you're going to have to slow down I'm getting some mixed signals here 826 01:26:09,000 --> 01:26:14,976 the lesson almost learned here was for Frasier to respect the talent of his producer as we did see how talented Ros 827 01:26:15,000 --> 01:26:19,976 was in helping improve Bulldog show but it's undercut by the reality that in spite of her skills Ros was still 828 01:26:20,000 --> 01:26:26,976 reduced to her sexual appeal by both of her bosses this is something of a running theme for the character in the early seasons and while it puts her on 829 01:26:27,000 --> 01:26:31,976 par with Frasier and Niles who often end up being humiliated by people who know better it hits a bit different when it's 830 01:26:32,000 --> 01:26:37,976 someone who doesn't have the same degree of power or status of all the characters on the show it's Ros who is the most 831 01:26:38,000 --> 01:26:42,976 detached from the rest of the cast much like Daphne in the earlier Seasons Ros isn't highlighted the way many of the 832 01:26:43,000 --> 01:26:48,976 crane men are sometimes reduced to only having one or two scenes in an episode unlike Daphne she doesn't get the same 833 01:26:49,000 --> 01:26:53,976 opportunity of character growth when she becomes involved with Niles often leaving RW as the odd one out the most 834 01:26:54,000 --> 01:27:00,976 meaningful connection RZ has to the rest of the cast is her friendship with Frasier although this does get teased as them being more than friends multiple 835 01:27:01,000 --> 01:27:04,648 times you know maybe if we both went into it with our eyes 836 01:27:11,000 --> 01:27:16,056 open what am I say crazy aside from one night where they hook up the two of them 837 01:27:17,000 --> 01:27:21,976 never come close to anything romantic the relationship simply works best with them being friends the friendship 838 01:27:22,000 --> 01:27:27,976 between Ros and Frasier is a bit different not just because of the class divide but because Frasier is ros' boss 839 01:27:28,000 --> 01:27:33,976 it leads to some strange moments such as the episode Ros alone where Fraser loans Ross of money and then becomes very 840 01:27:34,000 --> 01:27:39,976 judgmental when he sees how she spends it I don't want to talk to her about it I have to for God sake the rate she's 841 01:27:40,000 --> 01:27:45,976 spending she's going to be out of money before we're back to work you know and frankly I'm just a little bit annoyed with the way she keeps flaunting it in 842 01:27:46,000 --> 01:27:50,736 my face expensive lunches needless extravagances frankly I think the entire 843 01:27:52,000 --> 01:27:57,976 thing's just a bit insensitive don't you dafhne is luckily there to point out how Frasier's loan of $1,500 contrasts his 844 01:27:58,000 --> 01:28:02,800 usual spending habits are the cigars Cuban are the Tulips Dutch oh good news 845 01:28:04,000 --> 01:28:09,568 my personal shopper just found a dozen antique pudding plates who has 12 people over for 846 01:28:11,000 --> 01:28:15,928 pudding so you gave poor Ros a bit of money it hasn't changed your life has it 847 01:28:16,000 --> 01:28:21,976 you Sherry swilling fagra munching hypocrite it's also worth mentioning that RW being on Hard Times is because 848 01:28:22,000 --> 01:28:28,976 Frasier got her and and everyone else at kacl fired when he made a stand against the station manager Frasier eventually 849 01:28:29,000 --> 01:28:34,976 confronts Ros butter spending habits excuse me but weren't you the one that said I could spend it any way I wanted 850 01:28:35,000 --> 01:28:39,976 well I just thought you were going to be a little more responsible than that oh so now I'm irresponsible no no I'm just 851 01:28:40,000 --> 01:28:45,976 even their reconciliation is kind of weird as Roos is forced to listen to Fraser's apology because she's his 852 01:28:46,000 --> 01:28:52,976 producer and he's doing it on the air it's not an exaggeration to say I put my career in this woman's hands every day 853 01:28:53,000 --> 01:28:56,648 and never lets me down on to the show if I'm a bit Rusty I 854 01:28:59,000 --> 01:29:01,667 hope you'll forgive me after all to ER is 855 01:29:06,000 --> 01:29:13,040 human I hope you'll look into your hearts all right Fraser you're forgiven oh good these power dynamics come up 856 01:29:14,000 --> 01:29:18,976 several times throughout the series Frasier and Ros are absolutely friends but they aren't quite on the same level 857 01:29:19,000 --> 01:29:23,976 the tension in this relationship always seems to come from the fact that Frasier has power over rod and reveals the 858 01:29:24,000 --> 01:29:29,976 Perils of friendships within hierarchies it's not as simple as saying no one can ever be friends with their boss that's 859 01:29:30,000 --> 01:29:34,976 obviously not true rather what the series suggests is that this Dynamic presents a barrier or obstacle in that 860 01:29:35,000 --> 01:29:40,976 friendship in season 9 Ros meets Roger a man who would be one of her longest romantic Partners on the show there are 861 01:29:41,000 --> 01:29:46,976 some Echoes of class in that relationship as Roger is a garbage man something that at first embarrasses Ros 862 01:29:47,000 --> 01:29:52,976 but over time she learns to accept it by the end of the season sadly they've broken up although Frasier tries to 863 01:29:53,000 --> 01:29:57,800 reach out to her she and she's fine we broke up oh Ross I'm so sorry we just 864 01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:05,976 talked about some problems we've been having and decided you know we'd be better off apart when did this happen 865 01:30:06,000 --> 01:30:11,976 last week last week I didn't tell you because I didn't want to have a long conversation the rest of this episode 866 01:30:12,000 --> 01:30:17,976 titled Frasier has Spokane focuses on Frasier's expanding to the Spokane Market and him struggling to be accepted 867 01:30:18,000 --> 01:30:24,144 by the listeners there Ros is enlisted to help out posing as a caller looking for help I had some 868 01:30:26,000 --> 01:30:28,944 somebody a guy I really liked and then we broke 869 01:30:33,000 --> 01:30:34,800 up God Fraser I miss him so 870 01:30:38,000 --> 01:30:40,944 much love is always a risk but you have to take 871 01:30:44,000 --> 01:30:48,864 it the pain you're feeling now will pass in time and you you'll find yourself 872 01:30:49,000 --> 01:30:51,200 ready to take that risk again yeah 873 01:30:56,000 --> 01:30:57,040 thanks you're 874 01:31:10,000 --> 01:31:14,976 welcome Frasier and Ros have a very real connection and it reveals the workplace friendships are just as valid as any 875 01:31:15,000 --> 01:31:20,976 other working together was never the problem for Frasier and RZ RZ having to answer to Frasier as her boss was what 876 01:31:21,000 --> 01:31:26,976 introduced a power Dynamic that undercut what is otherwise a very meaningful friendship this is a reflection of what 877 01:31:27,000 --> 01:31:31,976 I was saying earlier about Frasier and how class creates barriers between him and the people he cares about RZ is 878 01:31:32,000 --> 01:31:38,976 clearly no exception and while it does provide an interesting reading for her character it does frame The Frasier and fro friendship as less about her story 879 01:31:39,000 --> 01:31:44,976 and more about his there was one story line for Ros that was all her own and that was the birth of her daughter Alice 880 01:31:45,000 --> 01:31:50,976 the birth of Alice was not planned by RZ or even the show's producers Christopher Lloyd in an interview said it was the 881 01:31:51,000 --> 01:31:56,976 network idea it's one of those things because because they like doing event shows and so in the season 5 episode 882 01:31:57,000 --> 01:32:02,976 Halloween we find out Ros is expecting and as is tradition for the show it's revealed in the most embarrassing way 883 01:32:03,000 --> 01:32:08,976 possible if anybody's going to propose to Raz is Frasier what how could you do that get her pregnant it was Frasier 884 01:32:09,000 --> 01:32:13,800 listen everybody I am not the father of R's baby fact we don't even know for 885 01:32:14,000 --> 01:32:17,968 sure if there is a baby we do now the father is a young Barista 886 01:32:21,000 --> 01:32:25,976 working at Cafe nervosa who RZ encourages to go live his life as she intends to raise the baby on her own I 887 01:32:26,000 --> 01:32:30,928 hope that you can understand why I can't possibly marry you when I get married 888 01:32:31,000 --> 01:32:36,888 it's going to be to someone I love and someone who loves me and someone who can legally drink 889 01:32:37,000 --> 01:32:38,680 champagne at my wedding 890 01:32:43,000 --> 01:32:48,952 okay I understand although Ros doesn't think this is going to be as easy to handle as she lets 891 01:32:50,000 --> 01:32:52,533 on I can't take this damn it I let this 892 01:32:56,000 --> 01:33:00,736 happen are we still talking about the milk don't you see milk is a staple I 893 01:33:04,000 --> 01:33:10,784 let a staple go bad good Mothers don't let Staples go bad how can I be responsible for a child when I can't 894 01:33:11,000 --> 01:33:16,312 even keep fresh milk in the house kids need milk I have to know everything you could 895 01:33:18,000 --> 01:33:24,976 know half of everything you could know about the milk and Lilith could know about the booties and the snugglies you never met Lilith did you 896 01:33:25,000 --> 01:33:30,976 what seemed to be the beginning of raza's character moving in a New Direction never quite gets off the ground as even the delivery of the baby 897 01:33:31,000 --> 01:33:36,976 is almost smuggled into an episode about Frasier and Niles competing over the same woman at a party what is wrong with 898 01:33:37,000 --> 01:33:41,976 me why can't I find a single woman who's interested in me those are two different questions really so we should just sit 899 01:33:42,000 --> 01:33:48,272 down and talk them both over oh wait I can't because I'm in lior still we do get a cute moment with 900 01:33:50,000 --> 01:33:52,867 baby Alice oh look at her oh she's beautiful 901 01:33:58,000 --> 01:34:04,976 mleo it's a long story and that was about it on the odd occasion we would see Alice appear in an episode or Ros 902 01:34:05,000 --> 01:34:10,976 would make a reference to having to stay home because she couldn't find a babysitter but otherwise we don't get too much of a change in ros' life aside 903 01:34:11,000 --> 01:34:17,976 from maybe her dating habit slowing down a bit one interesting bit of trivia about Ros Doyle is that she gets her name from one of the producers on wngs 904 01:34:18,000 --> 01:34:23,976 the show David Angel Peter Casey and David Lee created before Frasier the real life Ros Doyle passed away in 1991 905 01:34:24,000 --> 01:34:28,976 from breast cancer towards the end of the series we see some development in sight for Ros as she's offered a job as 906 01:34:29,000 --> 01:34:34,976 station manager at a rival radio station I must say i' I've got sort of mixed feelings about this I mean I couldn't be 907 01:34:35,000 --> 01:34:40,976 happy they finally getting the recognition you deserve but I'm going to miss you well let's wait till there's a 908 01:34:41,000 --> 01:34:47,592 real offer before we break out the kleenex and champagne Roz being so capable gets the job I got the job 909 01:34:48,000 --> 01:34:53,976 congratulations Ross I'm so proud of you now can I tell you how much I'm going to miss you this Tarter strange Dynamic 910 01:34:54,000 --> 01:34:58,976 where Ros inserts herself into Frasier's new relationship with cooworker Julia played by Felicity Huffman though 911 01:34:59,000 --> 01:35:04,976 ultimately none of this goes anywhere Frasier breaks things off with Julia and Ros exits the new job to go back to her 912 01:35:05,000 --> 01:35:10,976 old one at kacl while a bit of an odd part of the show it does revealed to us that Ros aspires to be something more 913 01:35:11,000 --> 01:35:18,232 than a producer for Frasier show and that's something we learn a little more about in the finale of the The Finale 914 01:35:19,000 --> 01:35:24,312 [Music] series one major part of the series I haven't really touched on is Frasier's 915 01:35:25,000 --> 01:35:30,976 long-standing problems with dating throughout the over 250 episodes of the show we see Frasier go on countless 916 01:35:31,000 --> 01:35:36,976 dates struggling to find happiness with women that are a bad fit for him a great fit for him and ones who don't stick 917 01:35:37,000 --> 01:35:42,976 around long enough for us to find out Fraser struggle to find a relationship is one of the core conflicts of the series season 9 opens with the 918 01:35:43,000 --> 01:35:48,976 two-parter dawn Juan In Hell where Frasier Dives deep into his own mind to figure out what he wants Imagining the 919 01:35:49,000 --> 01:35:55,848 many women who he's had relationships with I have carried you with me throughout every relationship on every 920 01:35:57,000 --> 01:36:02,976 date you'll pick apart the women I care about and you remind me how much it'll hurt if I open myself 921 01:36:03,000 --> 01:36:07,864 up you don't help me you hold me back how will I ever move forward if I don't 922 01:36:11,000 --> 01:36:17,912 put you behind me although this two-parter led Frasier to a place of emotional strength ready to enter into a 923 01:36:18,000 --> 01:36:24,976 meaningful relationship it would be two more seasons until he found the last of the women he would earnestly pursue on the series Charlotte played by Laura 924 01:36:25,000 --> 01:36:31,976 Linny we only meet Charlotte seven episodes before the series finale but Linny spoke about the experience of joining the cast so late in its run I 925 01:36:32,000 --> 01:36:38,976 was a Frasier fan for so long I think Charlotte's a good-hearted fumbling person trying her best but things weren't working and she was beginning to 926 01:36:39,000 --> 01:36:43,976 lose hard a little bit in aing turn Charlotte met Frasier while trying to help him make a meaningful connection as 927 01:36:44,000 --> 01:36:51,552 a Matchmaker after setting up a series of disastrous stes Frasier realizes he's attracted to Charlotte Fraser Charlotte 928 01:36:52,000 --> 01:36:56,480 hi I good to see you uh I'd like you to meet uh R yeah after some brief 929 01:36:59,000 --> 01:37:04,976 maneuvering around Charlotte's less than ideal boyfriend Frank played by Aaron eart Frasier manages to get closer to 930 01:37:05,000 --> 01:37:11,976 Charlotte until finding out something crucial I'm moving back to Chicago in 3 weeks 3 weeks it's not you I bought my 931 01:37:12,000 --> 01:37:16,928 old business back from my ex I I know I should have told you sooner but it was 932 01:37:17,000 --> 01:37:22,976 never the right time Frasier and Charlotte decide to spend the last 3 weeks she has together and that time is 933 01:37:23,000 --> 01:37:29,976 drawing to a close in the final episode two-parter good night Seattle as the episodes begins we can see the cast all 934 01:37:30,000 --> 01:37:34,976 reaching pivotal turning points in their lives Martin and Ronnie having gotten engaged a few episodes earlier are 935 01:37:35,000 --> 01:37:40,976 planning their wedding a very pregnant Daphne could give birth at any moment and unbeknownst to Ros she has an 936 01:37:41,000 --> 01:37:45,976 exciting career opportunity ahead of her and Frasier is preparing to say goodbye to Charlotte the episode opens with 937 01:37:46,000 --> 01:37:52,976 Frasier on a plane recounting the strange turn of events that got him aboard that flight and it began with Frasier's agent BB letting Fraser know 938 01:37:53,000 --> 01:37:59,976 he has an exciting new job offer good news I'm busting you out of this hell hole what did you ever hear of Dr Mark 939 01:38:00,000 --> 01:38:05,976 reesman the San Francisco radio psychiatrist yes we had a a nice encounter once at a conference well last 940 01:38:06,000 --> 01:38:11,696 week he had a not so nice encounter with a falling air conditioner anyway they want you to 941 01:38:12,000 --> 01:38:17,976 replace him and the money's huge as Frasier weighs his options he has to say goodbye to Charlotte as she leaves for 942 01:38:18,000 --> 01:38:22,976 Chicago at Martin and Ronnie's wedding disaster hits when Eddie the ring bearer 943 01:38:23,000 --> 01:38:27,288 eats the wedding ring the ring I dropped it when that Cannon was and 944 01:38:29,000 --> 01:38:34,056 know just DF and N stiti to the vet and then her water breaks they are a handful 945 01:38:35,000 --> 01:38:39,976 my brothers I could just imagine the hell they're raising back there with an open 946 01:38:40,000 --> 01:38:44,480 bar oh my God my water just broke the baby's coming because I said open 947 01:38:46,000 --> 01:38:50,864 bar and just like that she has a brand new baby boy he's named David which is 948 01:38:51,000 --> 01:38:56,976 possibly a tribute to siries co-creator David Angel who had passed away with his wife a few years prior Martin and Ronnie 949 01:38:57,000 --> 01:39:01,976 arrive and get married at the vet's office and for good measure it's also Eddie's Birthday it only Loosely enters 950 01:39:02,000 --> 01:39:07,976 into the plot but I felt like it needed to be mentioned after the wedding Martin and Ronnie plan on moving in together and with Daphne already moved in with 951 01:39:08,000 --> 01:39:14,976 Niles it leaves Frasier finally alone in his apartment as he poses for a meme we see the end of an era as Martin's chair 952 01:39:15,000 --> 01:39:18,520 is moved out of the apartment been waiting long 11 years 953 01:39:27,000 --> 01:39:31,976 uh be careful with it in a cute not to the first episode the same actor who moved in Martin's 954 01:39:32,000 --> 01:39:37,976 chair is also the one who takes it away with Martin moved out and Daffy and Niles now busy with their new son a 955 01:39:38,000 --> 01:39:43,568 lonely Frasier decides to take that job in San Francisco Listen about that San Francisco 956 01:39:45,000 --> 01:39:49,800 job I think I'll take it Roos is also moving on as she's promoted to station 957 01:39:51,000 --> 01:39:56,376 Manor at kacl who's the Jack booted Tyrant whose Fanny I'll be kissing till God knows 958 01:39:57,000 --> 01:40:00,840 when me joyful news your majesty everyone gathers in Fraser's 959 01:40:04,000 --> 01:40:10,784 apartment to say goodbye before he moves to San Francisco you're really leaving what will I ever do without 960 01:40:12,000 --> 01:40:18,144 you you're the sweetest most wonderful it's okay RZ he's not going till next week let her talk to 961 01:40:19,000 --> 01:40:25,912 that Martin's goodbye is particularly sweet hearkening back to the first episode as he finally thanks Frasier 962 01:40:26,000 --> 01:40:30,224 just once would it have killed you to say thank you one lousy thank 963 01:40:32,000 --> 01:40:34,133 you thank you Fraser for well you 964 01:40:38,000 --> 01:40:40,900 know and Niles simply as Niles coffee tomorrow 965 01:40:45,000 --> 01:40:48,648 10:30 I'll miss the coffees the episode is capped off with 966 01:40:52,000 --> 01:40:58,976 Frasier reading Tennison poem ulyses and braving one more change in his life which brings us back to that flight I 967 01:40:59,000 --> 01:41:03,976 think it's great what you're doing well I just know I'd always regret it if I didn't take the 968 01:41:04,000 --> 01:41:08,864 chance ladies and gentlemen welcome to Chicago for your sa the captain is you 969 01:41:10,000 --> 01:41:16,976 remain seated wish me luck Fraser Taking a Chance on Love is a nice way to bookend the series what is life without 970 01:41:17,000 --> 01:41:23,976 taking those chances making those gestures striving for something to live for Fraser's life had has consistently 971 01:41:24,000 --> 01:41:29,976 been one about the barriers that prevent him from connecting to others some a product of his class others of his own 972 01:41:30,000 --> 01:41:34,976 making it's a great irony that runs through a series about a man who makes his living helping others his abysmal 973 01:41:35,000 --> 01:41:40,976 dating record is perhaps the greatest symbol of his lack of ability to connect to anything with bad luck explaining 974 01:41:41,000 --> 01:41:45,976 some of his troubles and Circumstance affecting the rest Frasier deciding to take one more leap in his life and 975 01:41:46,000 --> 01:41:52,976 heading towards the great unknown of Chicago to be with Charlotte is him finally jumping over one of those barriers finally Closing one of those 976 01:41:53,000 --> 01:41:57,976 distances and he's also turning down a great job offer as part of it effectively sacrificing Fame and Fortune 977 01:41:58,000 --> 01:42:03,976 for a chance at love if Fraser began the series as a silly rich man to absorb with vanity to find real happiness in 978 01:42:04,000 --> 01:42:09,976 his life the finale is him choosing not to venture deeper into that world so he might find something more meaningful 979 01:42:10,000 --> 01:42:14,976 when asked his thoughts on what fate awaited Frasier Kelsey Grammar said I sometimes think Frasier went to Chicago 980 01:42:15,000 --> 01:42:20,976 and Charlotte told him to get the hell out that seems to be his luck maybe they ended up with a wonderful life together 981 01:42:21,000 --> 01:42:26,976 and maybe we'll find out someday good night Seattle we love you Kelsey Grammar Frasier in the Future 982 01:42:27,000 --> 01:42:31,976 had been mentioning the possibility of a reboot as far back as 2018 with plans originally being a third act for Frasier 983 01:42:32,000 --> 01:42:39,616 in a whole new setting the plan was at first to have it air in 2020 though that never materialized on February 24th 2021 984 01:42:40,000 --> 01:42:44,976 it was revealed that the series would be streaming exclusively on Paramount plus with hopes of it premiering sometimes in 985 01:42:45,000 --> 01:42:50,976 2022 so far there's no concrete news of a date or even cast the only thing we know for certain is that Kelsey Grammer 986 01:42:51,000 --> 01:42:55,976 will once again be reprising the of Frasier several cast members of Frasier have been asked if they're participating 987 01:42:56,000 --> 01:43:01,824 but so far no one has confirmed much of anything aside from them being aware that it will be 988 01:43:02,000 --> 01:43:06,976 happening the cultural impact and Lasting Legacy of Fraser extends well into the future it's a bit difficult to 989 01:43:07,000 --> 01:43:13,976 describe so I got some help to explain that hey this is Hoots from the YouTube channel little hoot I'm creating a 990 01:43:14,000 --> 01:43:20,848 companion video to Jose's on Frasier that's a collaboration with Neil from the liberal cook in it Neil and I 991 01:43:21,000 --> 01:43:27,976 attempt to sus out Fraser Legacy and in doing so we touch on a broad range of topics including the misogyny of '90s 992 01:43:28,000 --> 01:43:32,800 Comedy philosopher AA arent TV Tropes and Anita Hill it's kind of a wild one 993 01:43:36,000 --> 01:43:42,976 and I hope you enjoy it's hard to overstate how well-received Frasier was in addition to being a hit with strong 994 01:43:43,000 --> 01:43:49,976 ratings throughout its run Frasier also managed to win 37 prime time em Awards the most ever for a completed TV series 995 01:43:50,000 --> 01:43:55,976 until that record was broken by Game of Thrones in 2016 Kelsey gramar and David Hy Pierce both won four emys for their 996 01:43:56,000 --> 01:44:01,976 respective portrayals of Frasier and Niles and Frasier won outstanding comedy series five years in a row a feat only 997 01:44:02,000 --> 01:44:07,976 matched by Modern Family the series has also spawned a number of Home releases books and other forms of merchandise 998 01:44:08,000 --> 01:44:14,976 over the years it's also been playing in heavy syndication as well letting whole new generations of people discover Frasier Joe Keenan describes how new 999 01:44:15,000 --> 01:44:19,976 viewers react to the show saying I think new viewers like the show because apart from its quality it doesn't remind them 1000 01:44:20,000 --> 01:44:26,976 of anything no one says oh yet another show about two relentlessly highbrow romantically thwarted psychiatrists 1001 01:44:27,000 --> 01:44:33,976 following the end of Frasier Kelsey Grammar would go on to be involved in countless TV and film projects over the years from appearing as beast in the 1002 01:44:34,000 --> 01:44:38,976 X-Men movies to being the executive producer of the TV series girlfriends he is still likely best remembered for the 1003 01:44:39,000 --> 01:44:45,976 20 years he spent playing Frasier though he spent even more time 29 years in fact playing Sideshow Bob on The Simpsons and 1004 01:44:46,000 --> 01:44:50,976 I would be remiss if I didn't also mention that the Simpsons had a number of Frasier references in those episodes 1005 01:44:51,000 --> 01:44:55,976 including guest appearances by David Hy Pier pi and John Mahoney David Hy Pierce continued to have a number of TV and 1006 01:44:56,000 --> 01:45:01,976 film roles though he tended more towards working on stage including winning a Tony for his R the 2007 production of 1007 01:45:02,000 --> 01:45:07,976 curtains his performances on Frasier were typically noted for how keenly they reacted to the audience so a career on 1008 01:45:08,000 --> 01:45:13,976 stage makes perfect sense for Pierce John Mahoney appeared in several roles after Frasier though Martin crane would 1009 01:45:14,000 --> 01:45:19,976 always be his signature performance sadly on February 4th 2018 Mahoney passed away due to complications from 1010 01:45:20,000 --> 01:45:25,976 throat cancer in an interview Perry Gilpin told us sweet story about Mahoney a few years ago JN took me and my family 1011 01:45:26,000 --> 01:45:31,976 to dinner in Chicago while we were driving back my husband was texting with Chris Lloyd and read Chris's text out 1012 01:45:32,000 --> 01:45:37,976 loud please tell the great John Mahoney it was one of the honors of my life to work with him I could see a little tear 1013 01:45:38,000 --> 01:45:44,976 for him in Jon's eye then my daughter says who's John Mahoney Jon almost fell out of the car laughing he never took 1014 01:45:45,000 --> 01:45:49,976 himself too seriously Jane leaves continued her career throughout the 2000s after the end of Frasier 1015 01:45:50,000 --> 01:45:54,976 eventually finding herself on Hot in Cleveland which ran for six seasons she took some time off of Television after 1016 01:45:55,000 --> 01:46:01,976 that they eventually returned to the drama series the resident which is currently in its Fifth Season Perry Gilpin has been working in film and TV 1017 01:46:02,000 --> 01:46:08,976 since the end of Frasier and has also built a fairly extensive list of credits doing voiceover work she even has the unique distinction of being part of the 1018 01:46:09,000 --> 01:46:15,976 ill- fated Final Fantasy the spirits within in addition to Frasier moose also appeared in the feature film My Dog Skip 1019 01:46:16,000 --> 01:46:20,608 once again alongside his son Enzo sadly on June 22nd 2006 moose passed of 1020 01:46:21,000 --> 01:46:28,360 natural causes at the age of 15 Enzo would pass not long after on June 23rd 2010 at the age of 14 due to cancer both 1021 01:46:29,000 --> 01:46:35,976 will be remembered as two of the very best boys class looms heavily in Frasier often as a barrier from preventing 1022 01:46:36,000 --> 01:46:42,976 people from making genuine connections the very idea of people in the upper class is consistently a source of mockery but more importantly it's also 1023 01:46:43,000 --> 01:46:47,976 demonstrated to be a driver of division and a barrier for loving compassion Frasier does a wonderful service by 1024 01:46:48,000 --> 01:46:53,976 showing us that this excess doesn't make anyone better it's a social structure that moves us away from one another 1025 01:46:54,000 --> 01:46:58,976 reflecting on the show David I pierce describes how it connects people saying I have people tell me all the time that 1026 01:46:59,000 --> 01:47:04,976 when their family was in crisis a dad in the hospital a mom dying ARA was the one thing their family could watch together 1027 01:47:05,000 --> 01:47:11,976 that would make them laugh it's happened so many times over the years that I no longer think of it as a coincidence but as part of the show's Legacy Frasier was 1028 01:47:12,000 --> 01:47:16,976 a show about connecting through unlikely circumstances but the circumstances weren't the living arrangements but the 1029 01:47:17,000 --> 01:47:22,976 way their social spheres shape them the idea that these barriers can be torn down makes it much easier to laugh 1030 01:47:23,000 --> 01:47:28,976 together no matter how hard the times might get that's what makes Frasier such an excellent show when I made that 1031 01:47:29,000 --> 01:47:34,976 cheers retrospective a while ago I knew it had to be a two-parter and I knew I would eventually have to speak about 1032 01:47:35,000 --> 01:47:40,976 Frasier growing up I didn't really watch cheers but I definitely watched Frasier so revisiting it all these years later 1033 01:47:41,000 --> 01:47:47,976 was a treat and a reminder of why this show was such a joy to watch in my youth it held up surprisingly well and I think 1034 01:47:48,000 --> 01:47:52,976 that's a tribute to the writing and performances throughout it if you enjoyed this lengthy look back at the 1035 01:47:53,000 --> 01:47:58,976 show Frasier do consider becoming a patron or member for this channel you'll join all the lovely names you see 1036 01:47:59,000 --> 01:48:05,976 scrolling up on the screen now plus you'll get early access to videos in the future patrons also get a little extra 1037 01:48:06,000 --> 01:48:11,976 say on which series comes next though I can't make any promises as to which you all be covering thank you all so much 1038 01:48:12,000 --> 01:48:13,000 for watching 147606

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