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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:12,874 For every mystery, there is someone 2 00:00:12,909 --> 00:00:15,532 somewhere who knows the truth. 3 00:00:15,567 --> 00:00:17,500 Perhaps that someone is watching. 4 00:00:17,534 --> 00:00:19,295 Perhaps it's you. 5 00:00:19,329 --> 00:00:22,850 [eerie music] 6 00:00:45,838 --> 00:00:49,325 [phone ringing] 7 00:00:50,843 --> 00:00:52,190 Hello? 8 00:00:52,224 --> 00:00:53,432 STUART SCHWARTZ: "Unsolved Mysteries" 9 00:00:53,467 --> 00:00:56,918 was really the first program that combined 10 00:00:56,953 --> 00:00:59,300 mysteries genres into one. 11 00:00:59,335 --> 00:01:01,475 We were true crime, yes. 12 00:01:01,509 --> 00:01:04,064 But we were also unexplained phenomenon. 13 00:01:04,098 --> 00:01:06,031 We were also lost love. 14 00:01:06,066 --> 00:01:08,137 We were also missing persons. 15 00:01:08,171 --> 00:01:09,759 "Unsolved" was really unique. 16 00:01:09,793 --> 00:01:11,761 And there was really, at the time we were doing it, 17 00:01:11,795 --> 00:01:13,418 nothing like it on television. 18 00:01:13,452 --> 00:01:16,835 We were basically creating a new format. 19 00:01:16,869 --> 00:01:18,802 When the series started, I certainly 20 00:01:18,837 --> 00:01:21,667 didn't think that it was going to last as long as it did. 21 00:01:21,702 --> 00:01:23,290 And I don't think anybody thought it would. 22 00:01:23,324 --> 00:01:26,810 I think everybody kind of went, maybe a year, maybe two years, 23 00:01:26,845 --> 00:01:28,053 and then that'll be it. 24 00:01:28,088 --> 00:01:31,194 Suddenly, "Unsolved" was a big hit. 25 00:01:31,229 --> 00:01:34,024 The audience really liked "Unsolved Mysteries." 26 00:01:34,059 --> 00:01:35,578 First of all, it was about a mystery. 27 00:01:35,612 --> 00:01:37,407 Mystery shows have done well on TV. 28 00:01:37,442 --> 00:01:40,030 If you look at the schedule, there's always a bunch of 'em. 29 00:01:40,065 --> 00:01:42,723 And these are unsolved true stories, 30 00:01:42,757 --> 00:01:44,311 which makes that even better. 31 00:01:44,345 --> 00:01:46,589 Over the years, it's been amazing to see 32 00:01:46,623 --> 00:01:49,868 that "Unsolved Mysteries" has become a household name. 33 00:01:49,902 --> 00:01:51,421 Before the series, you would hear people 34 00:01:51,456 --> 00:01:52,664 say, well, that's a mystery. 35 00:01:52,698 --> 00:01:54,907 But now, more often than not, I hear them say, well, 36 00:01:54,942 --> 00:01:56,046 that's an unsolved mystery. 37 00:01:56,081 --> 00:01:58,566 [eerie music] 38 00:01:58,601 --> 00:02:00,258 CHRISTINE LENIG: It was so unique. 39 00:02:00,292 --> 00:02:02,570 It was the first show of its kind that, you know, 40 00:02:02,605 --> 00:02:04,607 really engaged the audience as part 41 00:02:04,641 --> 00:02:05,711 of the storytelling process. 42 00:02:05,746 --> 00:02:08,266 And it's what really fueled the success. 43 00:02:08,300 --> 00:02:10,923 Because the fans would help solve the case, and then 44 00:02:10,958 --> 00:02:12,132 we would do updates. 45 00:02:12,166 --> 00:02:13,754 And they'd come back for more. 46 00:02:13,788 --> 00:02:15,445 The show was so talkable. 47 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:16,722 Audiences watch it at night. 48 00:02:16,757 --> 00:02:17,896 And then, the next day, they'd want 49 00:02:17,930 --> 00:02:19,346 to talk about what happened. 50 00:02:19,380 --> 00:02:21,451 So it just became really, like, water cooler TV. 51 00:02:21,486 --> 00:02:23,902 [fireworks exploding] 52 00:02:23,936 --> 00:02:26,767 By the time we got to season four, 53 00:02:26,801 --> 00:02:28,389 our ratings were really good. 54 00:02:28,424 --> 00:02:33,360 We were typically-- it's certainly in the top 20 shows 55 00:02:33,394 --> 00:02:34,257 most weeks. 56 00:02:34,292 --> 00:02:36,294 Many weeks, we're in the top 10. 57 00:02:36,328 --> 00:02:38,744 And we really had momentum. 58 00:02:38,779 --> 00:02:40,160 JOHN JOSEPH: I think what's interesting is 59 00:02:40,194 --> 00:02:41,989 that this show set the stage. 60 00:02:42,023 --> 00:02:43,542 It set a certain kind of standard 61 00:02:43,577 --> 00:02:45,441 and a certain trend in television, 62 00:02:45,475 --> 00:02:46,890 and it changed the parameters. 63 00:02:46,925 --> 00:02:49,410 Because at that time, people weren't doing shows like this. 64 00:02:49,445 --> 00:02:50,791 And it really-- 65 00:02:50,825 --> 00:02:53,103 I think that's why people still like the show today 66 00:02:53,138 --> 00:02:54,243 because it was unique. 67 00:02:54,277 --> 00:02:56,728 And it was kind of, like-- had its own style. 68 00:02:56,762 --> 00:02:58,454 And people really respond to that. 69 00:02:58,488 --> 00:03:01,284 You know, you're making something out of nothing. 70 00:03:01,319 --> 00:03:02,734 Well, it's something to me. 71 00:03:02,768 --> 00:03:06,047 [music playing] 72 00:03:07,497 --> 00:03:09,706 The thing that sparked "Unsolved Mysteries" 73 00:03:09,741 --> 00:03:13,400 as a series was really a series of specials 74 00:03:13,434 --> 00:03:17,369 that John and Terry had done for NBC called 75 00:03:17,404 --> 00:03:19,889 "Missing, Have You Seen This Person?" 76 00:03:19,923 --> 00:03:22,236 People started to figure out, well, wait a second. 77 00:03:22,271 --> 00:03:28,518 We can do all sorts of stories that are mysteries that 78 00:03:28,553 --> 00:03:32,004 will fall under the umbrella of a show 79 00:03:32,039 --> 00:03:34,144 called "Unsolved Mysteries." 80 00:03:34,179 --> 00:03:37,493 When we launched the weekly series in October of 1988, 81 00:03:37,527 --> 00:03:40,427 we had already produced seven "Unsolved Mysteries Specials" 82 00:03:40,461 --> 00:03:43,395 that NBC had put in different places all over their schedule. 83 00:03:43,430 --> 00:03:44,845 And they didn't give us any promotion. 84 00:03:44,879 --> 00:03:46,536 They didn't give us any publicity. 85 00:03:46,571 --> 00:03:49,021 We were just kind of being tested out, I think, 86 00:03:49,056 --> 00:03:50,851 because they wanted to see if the audience would 87 00:03:50,885 --> 00:03:53,578 be interested enough in the show to try and find us. 88 00:03:53,612 --> 00:03:56,581 The very first specials surprised the heck 89 00:03:56,615 --> 00:03:58,583 out of everybody because they did really well. 90 00:03:58,617 --> 00:04:01,241 Every week, we'll be bringing you the most intriguing stories 91 00:04:01,275 --> 00:04:02,380 from across the country. 92 00:04:02,414 --> 00:04:03,967 JOHN COSGROVE: I think, when we went to series, 93 00:04:04,002 --> 00:04:05,762 people were really stunned. 94 00:04:05,797 --> 00:04:08,558 The whole Hollywood community, nobody had heard of us. 95 00:04:08,593 --> 00:04:11,216 They called up and said, um, "Unsolved 96 00:04:11,251 --> 00:04:12,493 Mysteries," who are you guys? 97 00:04:12,528 --> 00:04:15,600 [music playing] 98 00:04:15,634 --> 00:04:17,360 TERRY DUNN MEURER: I really didn't know if the series 99 00:04:17,395 --> 00:04:18,499 would be a success or not. 100 00:04:18,534 --> 00:04:19,707 I wasn't sure if the audience would 101 00:04:19,742 --> 00:04:21,468 come back each week to see stories 102 00:04:21,502 --> 00:04:23,332 that didn't even have endings. 103 00:04:23,366 --> 00:04:24,988 These are unsolved cases. 104 00:04:25,023 --> 00:04:27,197 But then what we started to see was that the show 105 00:04:27,232 --> 00:04:28,613 actually created endings. 106 00:04:28,647 --> 00:04:30,511 And the audience was coming back to see 107 00:04:30,546 --> 00:04:32,444 what cases have been solved or if there 108 00:04:32,479 --> 00:04:34,170 were any updates for the cases. 109 00:04:34,204 --> 00:04:36,379 And it all just took off from there. 110 00:04:36,414 --> 00:04:39,831 [music playing] 111 00:04:41,764 --> 00:04:44,076 What are you afraid of? 112 00:04:44,111 --> 00:04:45,733 The dark? 113 00:04:45,768 --> 00:04:46,803 Flying? 114 00:04:46,838 --> 00:04:47,908 Heights? 115 00:04:47,942 --> 00:04:50,635 JOHN COSGROVE: Bob Stack was an ideal choice 116 00:04:50,669 --> 00:04:51,843 for "Unsolved Mysteries." 117 00:04:51,877 --> 00:04:54,501 He had that deep, gravelly voice. 118 00:04:54,535 --> 00:05:00,334 He had gravitas, that feeling of whatever he says is true. 119 00:05:00,369 --> 00:05:01,956 He was legendary. 120 00:05:01,991 --> 00:05:04,614 You're on a dark, lonely road. 121 00:05:04,649 --> 00:05:07,065 The shadows seem to reach for you. 122 00:05:07,099 --> 00:05:10,620 That voice was just so perfect at telling the stories, 123 00:05:10,655 --> 00:05:12,208 getting people involved. 124 00:05:12,242 --> 00:05:17,075 And also, I think people really liked him as a person 125 00:05:17,109 --> 00:05:19,595 because he was a very likable guy. 126 00:05:19,629 --> 00:05:21,631 And he was a Hollywood icon. 127 00:05:21,666 --> 00:05:24,496 Join me on Wednesday for our next edition 128 00:05:24,531 --> 00:05:26,567 of "Unsolved Mysteries." 129 00:05:26,602 --> 00:05:28,328 SHANNON MCGINN: We shot a lot of his stand ups 130 00:05:28,362 --> 00:05:31,745 on location and oftentimes at night to make it creepier, 131 00:05:31,779 --> 00:05:33,712 and with the fog and the trench coat. 132 00:05:33,747 --> 00:05:35,058 CREW: Clear the umbrella. 133 00:05:35,093 --> 00:05:37,544 SHANNON MCGINN: And sometimes it was cold and damp out. 134 00:05:37,578 --> 00:05:39,166 But he was a real trooper. 135 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:41,341 He never complained once. 136 00:05:41,375 --> 00:05:44,413 Join me for this intriguing new mystery as well as 137 00:05:44,447 --> 00:05:48,175 these fascinating cases. 138 00:05:48,209 --> 00:05:49,107 CREW: Cut. 139 00:05:49,141 --> 00:05:50,626 Please join me. 140 00:05:50,660 --> 00:05:52,352 JOHN JOSEPH: Working with Bob Stack, as a director, 141 00:05:52,386 --> 00:05:55,009 was always a pleasure because he was so easy to work with, 142 00:05:55,044 --> 00:05:56,873 and he obviously knew how to hit his mark 143 00:05:56,908 --> 00:05:59,807 and say his lines like a super pro. 144 00:05:59,842 --> 00:06:01,706 We did have one time, though, that we 145 00:06:01,740 --> 00:06:03,742 had-- ran into some problems. 146 00:06:03,777 --> 00:06:04,881 I know, sweetheart. I know. 147 00:06:04,916 --> 00:06:05,986 I know. I know. 148 00:06:06,020 --> 00:06:07,401 I know. I know. 149 00:06:07,436 --> 00:06:08,747 I know. 150 00:06:08,782 --> 00:06:11,923 JOHN JOSEPH: We had this scene where Bob had to hold a dog. 151 00:06:11,957 --> 00:06:14,270 And no matter how we had him hold the dog, 152 00:06:14,304 --> 00:06:16,928 the dog was squirming, and Bob Stack was having trouble. 153 00:06:16,962 --> 00:06:19,344 And he was kind of swearing under his breath. 154 00:06:19,379 --> 00:06:21,173 At the beginning, he was trying to be a trooper 155 00:06:21,208 --> 00:06:22,416 and get through it. 156 00:06:22,451 --> 00:06:23,900 But after a while, he says, I can't hold this dog. 157 00:06:23,935 --> 00:06:26,144 I'm sorry. 158 00:06:26,178 --> 00:06:27,559 [laughs] 159 00:06:27,594 --> 00:06:29,078 CREW: Beautiful. 160 00:06:29,112 --> 00:06:30,976 Other than that, how'd you like the show, Mrs. Lincoln? 161 00:06:31,011 --> 00:06:34,221 [music playing] 162 00:06:35,567 --> 00:06:37,569 Whenever I'm talking about "Unsolved Mysteries," one 163 00:06:37,604 --> 00:06:38,984 of the questions that people always 164 00:06:39,019 --> 00:06:40,779 ask me is, how did you ever find all 165 00:06:40,814 --> 00:06:42,402 the stories that you produced? 166 00:06:42,436 --> 00:06:44,990 ROBERT STACK: When we return, a cold-blooded killer 167 00:06:45,025 --> 00:06:48,373 strikes at a scenic restaurant in the Canadian wilderness. 168 00:06:48,408 --> 00:06:50,893 SHANNON MCGINN: It's hard for people to remember the tools 169 00:06:50,927 --> 00:06:52,722 that we had back in the late '80s 170 00:06:52,757 --> 00:06:55,622 and '90s were so different in making television. 171 00:06:55,656 --> 00:06:57,762 The research was a lot more difficult in finding 172 00:06:57,796 --> 00:06:59,453 stories back in the day. 173 00:06:59,488 --> 00:07:00,834 A lot of times, cold calling. 174 00:07:00,868 --> 00:07:03,146 We would just call up police stations, 175 00:07:03,181 --> 00:07:04,907 and we would call up local newspaper. 176 00:07:04,941 --> 00:07:09,083 And we would just ask if there were stories that they had. 177 00:07:09,118 --> 00:07:11,465 STACY SCHNEIDER: We divided up the country state by state 178 00:07:11,500 --> 00:07:13,433 and made contacts in those states. 179 00:07:13,467 --> 00:07:15,055 And when we'd hear of a good story, 180 00:07:15,089 --> 00:07:17,713 we'd call our contacts to help us flash them out. 181 00:07:17,747 --> 00:07:19,680 We weren't just looking for unsolved murders 182 00:07:19,715 --> 00:07:22,407 and missing persons and wanted fugitives. 183 00:07:22,442 --> 00:07:26,307 We wanted any kind of story imaginable-- missing heirs, 184 00:07:26,342 --> 00:07:31,243 treasure, lost loves, UFOs, even legendary creatures 185 00:07:31,278 --> 00:07:32,728 like Bigfoot. 186 00:07:32,762 --> 00:07:35,696 We had over 20 different categories of mysteries. 187 00:07:35,731 --> 00:07:38,043 I think one of the most popular UFO stories 188 00:07:38,078 --> 00:07:40,218 we did was about three people who were driving 189 00:07:40,252 --> 00:07:41,599 down a highway in Texas. 190 00:07:41,633 --> 00:07:42,496 It was at night. 191 00:07:42,531 --> 00:07:44,360 Mama, what's that light? 192 00:07:44,394 --> 00:07:46,396 CHRISTINE LENIG: And they see this big light in the sky. 193 00:07:46,431 --> 00:07:47,294 I don't know. 194 00:07:47,328 --> 00:07:48,191 It's awful bright. 195 00:07:48,226 --> 00:07:49,469 Is that an airplane? 196 00:07:49,503 --> 00:07:50,884 CHRISTINE LENIG: It's kind of shaped like a diamond. 197 00:07:50,918 --> 00:07:52,610 They get out of the car to investigate, 198 00:07:52,644 --> 00:07:55,820 and this heat is radiating from this UFO. 199 00:07:55,854 --> 00:07:59,858 WOMAN: And I stood there, looking up to try to figure 200 00:07:59,893 --> 00:08:01,964 out what this object was. 201 00:08:01,998 --> 00:08:03,724 Mama, I'm sick. 202 00:08:03,759 --> 00:08:05,036 TERRY DUNN MEURER: After this happened, 203 00:08:05,070 --> 00:08:06,486 these three people found radiation 204 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:09,834 burns on their bodies, and they were totally traumatized. 205 00:08:09,868 --> 00:08:12,112 The military said nothing strange had happened 206 00:08:12,146 --> 00:08:13,320 in the area that night. 207 00:08:13,354 --> 00:08:16,081 But you know something happened to those people. 208 00:08:16,116 --> 00:08:17,876 On one, you're there. 209 00:08:17,911 --> 00:08:21,224 [explosion] 210 00:08:22,605 --> 00:08:25,263 One of my favorite stories was about a man 211 00:08:25,297 --> 00:08:30,337 who claimed he was reincarnated from a World War II submariner 212 00:08:30,371 --> 00:08:32,097 who had died during the war. 213 00:08:32,132 --> 00:08:36,964 MAN: I was in my bunk when the attack happened. 214 00:08:36,999 --> 00:08:39,415 SHANNON MCGINN: The fact that he had all these details 215 00:08:39,449 --> 00:08:42,694 about what had happened on the submarine 216 00:08:42,729 --> 00:08:47,457 down to what he was wearing, where he was in the submarine 217 00:08:47,492 --> 00:08:49,598 and that we were able to fact check 218 00:08:49,632 --> 00:08:52,739 with the actual story of this man. 219 00:08:52,773 --> 00:08:54,464 ROBERT STACK: With each session, more details 220 00:08:54,499 --> 00:08:57,502 emerged, details that appeared to come from the life 221 00:08:57,537 --> 00:08:59,400 of James Edward Johnston. 222 00:08:59,435 --> 00:09:01,748 I still can't understand how someone-- 223 00:09:01,782 --> 00:09:03,577 this is before the internet-- could 224 00:09:03,612 --> 00:09:06,442 have such specific details and information 225 00:09:06,476 --> 00:09:08,513 about another person's life who they never 226 00:09:08,548 --> 00:09:12,621 knew and had died years before. 227 00:09:12,655 --> 00:09:17,004 You just cannot make this stuff up. 228 00:09:17,039 --> 00:09:18,350 MAN: Here, Joe. 229 00:09:18,385 --> 00:09:19,559 Found it buried in your front yard. 230 00:09:19,593 --> 00:09:20,663 Look at 'em, Joe. 231 00:09:20,698 --> 00:09:22,700 Back in the days before there was an internet, 232 00:09:22,734 --> 00:09:27,014 the way we would find stories was through a clipping service. 233 00:09:27,049 --> 00:09:31,191 And what they did was they sent newspapers to people 234 00:09:31,225 --> 00:09:32,779 all over the country whose job it 235 00:09:32,813 --> 00:09:35,644 was to go through those papers, local newspapers, 236 00:09:35,678 --> 00:09:38,612 find stories in the categories that we 237 00:09:38,647 --> 00:09:42,685 sent them, and literally cut those out of the newspaper, 238 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:44,066 and send them to us. 239 00:09:44,100 --> 00:09:45,930 And when you hit paydirt, when you 240 00:09:45,964 --> 00:09:47,828 found a clipping with a great story, 241 00:09:47,863 --> 00:09:48,829 there was nothing like it. 242 00:09:48,864 --> 00:09:52,315 You would get goosebumps. 243 00:09:52,350 --> 00:09:54,628 One of the most dramatic stories that we 244 00:09:54,663 --> 00:09:57,148 did was the story of a young woman-- 245 00:09:57,182 --> 00:09:58,839 her name was Angela Hammond-- 246 00:09:58,874 --> 00:10:00,807 who was abducted from a phone booth 247 00:10:00,841 --> 00:10:02,774 while she was talking to her fiancee. 248 00:10:02,809 --> 00:10:04,017 While we were talking on the phone, 249 00:10:04,051 --> 00:10:05,639 she mentioned to me about a truck 250 00:10:05,674 --> 00:10:07,261 circling around the block, an older model 251 00:10:07,296 --> 00:10:08,435 green Ford pickup truck. 252 00:10:08,469 --> 00:10:09,436 --pickup truck. 253 00:10:09,470 --> 00:10:11,334 They keep circling around the block. 254 00:10:11,369 --> 00:10:13,129 BOYFRIEND [ON PHONE]: Do you recognize the truck? 255 00:10:13,164 --> 00:10:14,475 No. 256 00:10:14,510 --> 00:10:15,925 BOYFRIEND [ON PHONE]: He's probably not from around here. 257 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:16,823 Maybe he's just lost. 258 00:10:16,857 --> 00:10:18,859 ANGELA [ON PHONE]: I guess so. 259 00:10:18,894 --> 00:10:20,654 Anyway, do you still want to go to the lake this week? 260 00:10:20,689 --> 00:10:23,623 ROBERT STACK: Angie remained unconcerned, until the truck 261 00:10:23,657 --> 00:10:25,625 parked next to the phone booth. 262 00:10:25,659 --> 00:10:29,939 Uh, Rob, he's pulling up next to the phones. 263 00:10:29,974 --> 00:10:31,631 BOYFRIEND [ON PHONE]: What's the driver look like? 264 00:10:31,665 --> 00:10:33,322 TERRY DUNN MEURER: And she gave a description of the guy. 265 00:10:33,356 --> 00:10:34,806 And she gave a description of the truck. 266 00:10:34,841 --> 00:10:38,603 Mustache, beard, and glasses, and he's wearing overalls. 267 00:10:38,638 --> 00:10:40,950 Maybe I should come down there. 268 00:10:40,985 --> 00:10:41,951 Oh, Rob, no. 269 00:10:41,986 --> 00:10:44,471 I'm sure it's OK. 270 00:10:44,505 --> 00:10:46,059 And that's when I heard a scream on the phone. 271 00:10:46,093 --> 00:10:48,371 [angela screaming] 272 00:10:48,406 --> 00:10:49,925 TERRY DUNN MEURER: The fiancee is on the phone. 273 00:10:49,959 --> 00:10:52,099 He rushes to get to this parking lot, 274 00:10:52,134 --> 00:10:54,446 and he sees the truck driving away. 275 00:10:54,481 --> 00:10:55,965 His car breaks down, actually. 276 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:59,866 And he watches his girlfriend being abducted and driving off. 277 00:10:59,900 --> 00:11:01,937 And she's never been found. 278 00:11:01,971 --> 00:11:04,836 We received a lot of tips for the Angela Hammond story 279 00:11:04,871 --> 00:11:07,736 because the fans really locked into this really unique clue, 280 00:11:07,770 --> 00:11:10,739 which was there was this fish decal on the back of the truck 281 00:11:10,773 --> 00:11:12,154 that the abductor had. 282 00:11:12,188 --> 00:11:14,708 And even to this day, they're still out there 283 00:11:14,743 --> 00:11:17,159 looking for her and the truck because the story 284 00:11:17,193 --> 00:11:18,954 is still unsolved. 285 00:11:18,988 --> 00:11:20,749 TERRY DUNN MEURER: I think the audience really related 286 00:11:20,783 --> 00:11:24,338 to Angela's terror and to her fiancee's desperation 287 00:11:24,373 --> 00:11:25,857 to try and save her. 288 00:11:25,892 --> 00:11:27,031 It was a sad story. 289 00:11:31,311 --> 00:11:33,244 There are certain things that we learned 290 00:11:33,278 --> 00:11:36,557 to look for that would make a story really engaging 291 00:11:36,592 --> 00:11:39,146 and resonant for viewers. 292 00:11:39,181 --> 00:11:41,804 One of those things is twists and turns. 293 00:11:41,839 --> 00:11:44,427 So we would look for the unusual. 294 00:11:44,462 --> 00:11:45,946 We look for the emotional. 295 00:11:45,981 --> 00:11:48,155 We would look for the relatable. 296 00:11:48,190 --> 00:11:51,158 Our viewers could really identify 297 00:11:51,193 --> 00:11:53,436 with the people in our stories because they 298 00:11:53,471 --> 00:11:54,748 were just like them. 299 00:11:54,783 --> 00:11:57,855 And so I think that was a really powerful 300 00:11:57,889 --> 00:12:00,512 part of the appeal of the show. 301 00:12:00,547 --> 00:12:02,722 ROBERT STACK: The Wackers are quiet, unassuming people 302 00:12:02,756 --> 00:12:04,344 who tend to mind their own business. 303 00:12:04,378 --> 00:12:05,310 Bill. 304 00:12:05,345 --> 00:12:06,726 ROBERT STACK: Hardly the type to draw 305 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:08,762 the wrath of an unseen enemy. 306 00:12:08,797 --> 00:12:10,764 TERRY DUNN MEURER: One of the more popular stories we did 307 00:12:10,799 --> 00:12:14,319 was about a married couple that was being absolutely terrorized 308 00:12:14,354 --> 00:12:15,562 by anonymous phone calls-- 309 00:12:15,596 --> 00:12:16,597 Hello? 310 00:12:16,632 --> 00:12:17,771 TERRY DUNN MEURER: --threatening notes, 311 00:12:17,806 --> 00:12:19,221 and even violent attacks. 312 00:12:19,255 --> 00:12:21,671 And I think that what the viewers responded to 313 00:12:21,706 --> 00:12:24,019 in that story was the fear that this couple felt, 314 00:12:24,053 --> 00:12:26,435 knowing that they were being watched 315 00:12:26,469 --> 00:12:28,506 and never knowing when their assailant was 316 00:12:28,540 --> 00:12:29,438 going to strike again. 317 00:12:29,472 --> 00:12:31,992 [muffled screaming] 318 00:12:33,407 --> 00:12:36,341 As the show became more popular, we started getting huge piles 319 00:12:36,376 --> 00:12:37,653 of mail from viewers. 320 00:12:37,687 --> 00:12:40,690 Some of it was fan mail for Robert Stack. 321 00:12:40,725 --> 00:12:42,796 But a lot of the letters were from viewers wanting 322 00:12:42,831 --> 00:12:44,384 us to feature their stories. 323 00:12:44,418 --> 00:12:47,559 I actually think the majority of the stories we produced 324 00:12:47,594 --> 00:12:51,632 were submitted by "Unsolved Mysteries" viewers. 325 00:12:51,667 --> 00:12:53,151 ROBERT STACK: Eight years ago, the mill town 326 00:12:53,186 --> 00:12:56,258 of East Millinocket, Maine was safe and secure, 327 00:12:56,292 --> 00:12:59,157 the last place you'd expect a brutal murder to occur. 328 00:12:59,192 --> 00:13:00,538 TERRY DUNN MEURER: We did a story 329 00:13:00,572 --> 00:13:03,541 called "Maine Petition," which took place in a small town. 330 00:13:03,575 --> 00:13:06,302 And it's one of those stories that we might not have done, 331 00:13:06,337 --> 00:13:08,753 it might not have come to the attention of the researchers 332 00:13:08,788 --> 00:13:11,721 if the people in the town hadn't sent in a petition-- 333 00:13:11,756 --> 00:13:13,447 I think it was 6,000 signatures-- 334 00:13:13,482 --> 00:13:16,174 asking us to do this story. 335 00:13:16,209 --> 00:13:18,142 MAN: I saw Joyce. 336 00:13:18,176 --> 00:13:19,212 She wasn't moving. 337 00:13:19,246 --> 00:13:21,007 Her body looked like it had been beaten. 338 00:13:21,041 --> 00:13:22,836 TERRY DUNN MEURER: And that case was eventually solved. 339 00:13:22,871 --> 00:13:24,804 Joyce's killer was identified. 340 00:13:29,636 --> 00:13:33,019 [music playing] 341 00:13:34,468 --> 00:13:36,367 [eerie music] 342 00:13:36,401 --> 00:13:38,300 GIRL: Please. 343 00:13:38,334 --> 00:13:39,542 One of the things we've set out 344 00:13:39,577 --> 00:13:41,337 to do from the very beginning was 345 00:13:41,372 --> 00:13:47,827 to find stories that had a scary or creepy element to them 346 00:13:47,861 --> 00:13:52,901 because, let's face it, people do like to be scared. 347 00:13:52,935 --> 00:13:55,420 You're about to have the rare and disturbing opportunity 348 00:13:55,455 --> 00:13:58,182 to go inside the mind of an arsonist. 349 00:13:58,216 --> 00:13:59,424 JOHN JOSEPH: There was this one story 350 00:13:59,459 --> 00:14:02,151 we did called "Unknown Arsonist," where a guy found 351 00:14:02,186 --> 00:14:03,739 a jacket on the side of a road. 352 00:14:03,773 --> 00:14:05,741 There was a videotape in the jacket, pulled 353 00:14:05,775 --> 00:14:07,570 out the videotape, played it. 354 00:14:20,066 --> 00:14:21,688 JOHN JOSEPH: The person who had set the fire 355 00:14:21,722 --> 00:14:22,862 was narrating the tape. 356 00:14:22,896 --> 00:14:25,002 Like, he was watching the fire happen 357 00:14:25,036 --> 00:14:26,520 and narrating it at the same time. 358 00:14:26,555 --> 00:14:27,452 It was very creepy. 359 00:14:34,183 --> 00:14:35,633 JOHN JOSEPH: Once we aired the show, 360 00:14:35,667 --> 00:14:37,566 I think a thousand tips came in. 361 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:39,913 And the police ended up solving it. 362 00:14:39,948 --> 00:14:41,984 And it turned out to be two juveniles that had set, 363 00:14:42,019 --> 00:14:45,781 like, 25 other fires. 364 00:14:45,815 --> 00:14:48,197 I think one of the most incredible paranormal stories 365 00:14:48,232 --> 00:14:53,168 we produced was about a nurse by the name of Teresita Basa. 366 00:14:53,202 --> 00:14:55,791 ROBERT STACK: Initially, the apartment seemed unoccupied. 367 00:14:55,825 --> 00:14:59,553 But soon, the firemen made a grim discovery. 368 00:14:59,588 --> 00:15:00,900 TERRY DUNN MEURER: Teresita was brutally 369 00:15:00,934 --> 00:15:02,729 murdered in her apartment in Chicago, 370 00:15:02,763 --> 00:15:03,903 and there were no suspects. 371 00:15:03,937 --> 00:15:05,939 Police were at a total dead end. 372 00:15:05,974 --> 00:15:09,598 A Chicago couple claimed that the victim Teresita Basa had 373 00:15:09,632 --> 00:15:12,532 named her own killer after she was murdered, 374 00:15:12,566 --> 00:15:15,224 speaking to them from beyond the grave. 375 00:15:15,259 --> 00:15:17,330 TERRY DUNN MEURER: A woman that Teresita used to work with 376 00:15:17,364 --> 00:15:19,677 started going into trances, and she would 377 00:15:19,711 --> 00:15:23,301 speak in the voice of Teresita. 378 00:15:23,336 --> 00:15:27,098 You must go to the police. 379 00:15:27,133 --> 00:15:30,791 The police cannot find my killer. 380 00:15:30,826 --> 00:15:34,036 Tell them his name is Allan Showery. 381 00:15:34,071 --> 00:15:35,210 TERRY DUNN MEURER: And she actually 382 00:15:35,244 --> 00:15:37,074 named Teresita's killer. 383 00:15:37,108 --> 00:15:38,558 And it turned out she was right. 384 00:15:38,592 --> 00:15:40,491 Allan Showery was his name. 385 00:15:40,525 --> 00:15:41,871 And he was arrested. 386 00:15:41,906 --> 00:15:45,427 And he was so freaked out by how police were able to track 387 00:15:45,461 --> 00:15:48,119 him down that he confessed to Teresita's murder 388 00:15:48,154 --> 00:15:49,672 in the courtroom. 389 00:15:49,707 --> 00:15:52,503 That is one story I will always remember. 390 00:15:52,537 --> 00:15:55,989 [music playing] 391 00:15:57,991 --> 00:16:01,408 [eerie music] 392 00:16:02,754 --> 00:16:03,963 JOHN COSGROVE: When you talk about "Unsolved Mysteries," 393 00:16:03,997 --> 00:16:05,654 one of the key factors is the music. 394 00:16:08,208 --> 00:16:10,003 It scared the heck out of people. 395 00:16:10,038 --> 00:16:13,282 We get letters from people who say, it's been 30 years, 396 00:16:13,317 --> 00:16:17,045 and I'm still scared by the "Unsolved Mysteries" music. 397 00:16:17,079 --> 00:16:19,323 It is a key part of the show because it 398 00:16:19,357 --> 00:16:22,809 sets up the atmosphere of weirdness and scariness. 399 00:16:22,843 --> 00:16:25,260 We love to go to scary movies, and "Unsolved Mysteries" is 400 00:16:25,294 --> 00:16:28,021 able to tap into that feeling. 401 00:16:28,056 --> 00:16:32,163 What's surprising to me is, 35 years later, when people either 402 00:16:32,198 --> 00:16:35,132 hear "Unsolved Mysteries" they go, oh, my god, 403 00:16:35,166 --> 00:16:36,409 that theme song. 404 00:16:36,443 --> 00:16:39,170 Or if they hear the theme song, they go, oh, my god. 405 00:16:39,205 --> 00:16:40,344 I remember that. 406 00:16:40,378 --> 00:16:42,380 You know, I remember climbing under the couch. 407 00:16:42,415 --> 00:16:44,934 That music scared me so much. 408 00:16:44,969 --> 00:16:48,248 I think that combination of that music and Robert 409 00:16:48,283 --> 00:16:52,977 Stack's voice were key elements on why the show was so popular. 410 00:16:53,012 --> 00:16:56,015 [music playing] 411 00:16:57,292 --> 00:16:58,672 TERRY DUNN MEURER: When we first produced the "Unsolved 412 00:16:58,707 --> 00:17:01,468 Mysteries Specials," John and I were on location all the time. 413 00:17:01,503 --> 00:17:04,023 But once the series began, we were just 414 00:17:04,057 --> 00:17:05,231 too busy to go out on the road. 415 00:17:05,265 --> 00:17:07,474 So all the series producers and the series directors 416 00:17:07,509 --> 00:17:08,406 got to go out. 417 00:17:08,441 --> 00:17:09,787 And they got to have all the fun. 418 00:17:09,821 --> 00:17:12,928 And they came home with some great stories about production. 419 00:17:12,962 --> 00:17:15,413 One of the best things of "Unsolved Mysteries" 420 00:17:15,448 --> 00:17:19,279 was that we shot on location, in the places with the people that 421 00:17:19,314 --> 00:17:20,867 were involved in that mystery. 422 00:17:20,901 --> 00:17:24,595 And for some places, it was the first time 423 00:17:24,629 --> 00:17:27,977 they'd ever seen a TV film crew come into their town. 424 00:17:28,012 --> 00:17:30,739 And they would just roll the red carpet out. 425 00:17:30,773 --> 00:17:32,327 We'd be on local news. 426 00:17:32,361 --> 00:17:35,226 I mean, it's kind of hysterical to think today, with all 427 00:17:35,261 --> 00:17:36,814 the reality television. 428 00:17:36,848 --> 00:17:41,060 But those days, it was very unusual sometimes for places 429 00:17:41,094 --> 00:17:42,026 that we went to. 430 00:17:42,061 --> 00:17:43,993 And everybody could not have been 431 00:17:44,028 --> 00:17:45,823 more friendly, more helpful. 432 00:17:45,857 --> 00:17:48,860 And I think that helped a lot in solving a lot of the mysteries. 433 00:17:48,895 --> 00:17:50,103 TERRY DUNN MEURER: Law enforcement 434 00:17:50,138 --> 00:17:52,692 agencies in the smaller towns were incredibly helpful. 435 00:17:52,726 --> 00:17:54,418 They'd give us helicopter support. 436 00:17:54,452 --> 00:17:57,317 And they would give us vehicles and actual officers 437 00:17:57,352 --> 00:17:58,422 for our recreations. 438 00:17:58,456 --> 00:18:00,355 I mean, they would close off highways for us. 439 00:18:00,389 --> 00:18:02,564 But it was always a little bit risky. 440 00:18:02,598 --> 00:18:03,841 I remember one shoot. 441 00:18:03,875 --> 00:18:06,154 We probably had the entire police department helping 442 00:18:06,188 --> 00:18:07,914 us recreate a crime scene, and we were 443 00:18:07,948 --> 00:18:09,260 just about to start shooting. 444 00:18:09,295 --> 00:18:11,400 And they got called to a real crime scene. 445 00:18:11,435 --> 00:18:12,988 And the crew was left just standing 446 00:18:13,022 --> 00:18:14,714 there with nothing to film. 447 00:18:14,748 --> 00:18:16,578 But they eventually came back, and we 448 00:18:16,612 --> 00:18:17,820 eventually got our scenes. 449 00:18:17,855 --> 00:18:21,134 [music playing] 450 00:18:24,103 --> 00:18:25,034 Hi, I'm Shane's dad. 451 00:18:25,069 --> 00:18:26,346 Do you remember me? 452 00:18:26,381 --> 00:18:27,416 Mr. Stewart. 453 00:18:27,451 --> 00:18:29,591 When you go to the small town, you 454 00:18:29,625 --> 00:18:32,249 can't get actors because you're far away 455 00:18:32,283 --> 00:18:33,871 sometimes from a major city. 456 00:18:33,905 --> 00:18:36,563 And you do want to work with the real people. 457 00:18:36,598 --> 00:18:38,151 Excuse me. 458 00:18:38,186 --> 00:18:39,256 Where are you from? 459 00:18:39,290 --> 00:18:40,222 I'm from Brooklyn. 460 00:18:40,257 --> 00:18:41,154 That's what I thought you said. 461 00:18:41,189 --> 00:18:42,914 What section? - Bed-Stuy. 462 00:18:42,949 --> 00:18:46,539 What we found is that-- it got tricky because when it was 463 00:18:46,573 --> 00:18:50,612 an emotional story or something with a murder or somebody died, 464 00:18:50,646 --> 00:18:53,960 the family, like, it almost bring them to tears sometimes. 465 00:18:53,994 --> 00:18:55,375 It was really hard to watch. 466 00:18:55,410 --> 00:18:58,447 Well, we've just completed all the tests on your little girl, 467 00:18:58,482 --> 00:19:00,484 and I'm afraid the results confirm 468 00:19:00,518 --> 00:19:02,727 that she's going to need a complete blood transfusion. 469 00:19:02,762 --> 00:19:04,212 SHANNON MCGINN: A lot of times we 470 00:19:04,246 --> 00:19:07,249 had to cast people that weren't necessarily actors 471 00:19:07,284 --> 00:19:09,493 or certainly not good actors. 472 00:19:09,527 --> 00:19:11,909 So we had people who are overacting, 473 00:19:11,943 --> 00:19:13,945 people who are under acting, and people 474 00:19:13,980 --> 00:19:15,740 who are not acting at all. 475 00:19:15,775 --> 00:19:18,536 Sometimes people would even play themselves, 476 00:19:18,571 --> 00:19:20,676 and that was always a problem too 477 00:19:20,711 --> 00:19:22,161 because they'd be so nervous. 478 00:19:22,195 --> 00:19:24,370 And, you know, it was really tough. 479 00:19:24,404 --> 00:19:27,166 The directors had a big challenge a lot of times, 480 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:28,305 working with the actors. 481 00:19:28,339 --> 00:19:30,099 - Well, I know her a little bit. - Oh, good. 482 00:19:30,134 --> 00:19:31,480 Would you like to come down to the station 483 00:19:31,515 --> 00:19:32,516 and give a statement? 484 00:19:32,550 --> 00:19:34,966 Well, if my mama can come with me. 485 00:19:35,001 --> 00:19:38,280 We would go into a small town to do a story, 486 00:19:38,315 --> 00:19:41,456 and we would cast, quote, unquote, "actors." 487 00:19:41,490 --> 00:19:44,942 And they would all come from small theater groups. 488 00:19:44,976 --> 00:19:47,013 It's good to see you. 489 00:19:47,047 --> 00:19:48,566 Who the hell is Fifi? 490 00:19:48,601 --> 00:19:51,259 DAVID VASSAR: And so "Unsolved" was America's little theater. 491 00:19:51,293 --> 00:19:53,399 WOMAN: Yeah, there was no reason for you to upset Ida like that. 492 00:19:53,433 --> 00:19:55,090 That was totally uncalled for, Wendy. 493 00:19:55,124 --> 00:19:56,747 She loves that little boy. 494 00:19:56,781 --> 00:19:57,920 I love him too. 495 00:19:57,955 --> 00:19:59,922 That's why I want to spend more time with you. 496 00:19:59,957 --> 00:20:01,303 You get enough time to spend with him. 497 00:20:01,338 --> 00:20:02,373 But he needs me. He needs-- 498 00:20:02,408 --> 00:20:03,823 ROBERT WISE: The casting process is always 499 00:20:03,857 --> 00:20:05,825 very interesting problem. 500 00:20:05,859 --> 00:20:07,827 What was most important for us was 501 00:20:07,861 --> 00:20:10,209 that the actors looked like the real people, 502 00:20:10,243 --> 00:20:12,072 so the audience wouldn't get confused. 503 00:20:12,107 --> 00:20:16,007 And their ability to act wasn't nearly as important. 504 00:20:16,042 --> 00:20:20,011 One time, we did a story about a fugitive who was on the lam, 505 00:20:20,046 --> 00:20:24,602 and we cast a guy who looked exactly like him. 506 00:20:24,637 --> 00:20:29,711 The show aired, and someone called in that the fugitive 507 00:20:29,745 --> 00:20:31,230 was eating at a restaurant. 508 00:20:31,264 --> 00:20:34,129 So they sent the police over, and they arrested him. 509 00:20:34,163 --> 00:20:36,545 But it was the actor, not the fugitive. 510 00:20:36,580 --> 00:20:39,790 So after that, we decided to start giving the actors who 511 00:20:39,824 --> 00:20:42,102 played bad guys a card they could carry around 512 00:20:42,137 --> 00:20:43,725 with them to prove to law enforcement 513 00:20:43,759 --> 00:20:46,245 that if they were ever arrested, that they were just an actor 514 00:20:46,279 --> 00:20:48,557 and they were not a wanted fugitive. 515 00:20:48,592 --> 00:20:50,110 JOHN JOSEPH: We did have one time, though, 516 00:20:50,145 --> 00:20:52,354 that we had to cast a scene where 517 00:20:52,389 --> 00:20:54,253 these two guys robbed somebody. 518 00:20:54,287 --> 00:20:57,497 And we're calling people in to, you know, audition. 519 00:20:57,532 --> 00:21:00,845 And so we'd have them do a little quick improv. 520 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:03,538 So these two guys come in, and they do the improv. 521 00:21:03,572 --> 00:21:05,402 And they scared everybody in the room. 522 00:21:05,436 --> 00:21:07,231 They, like, did the perfect robbery. 523 00:21:07,266 --> 00:21:09,509 They, like, strong-armed the person. 524 00:21:09,544 --> 00:21:11,270 They gave him a look and-- 525 00:21:11,304 --> 00:21:12,788 you know, we're all like, oh, my god. 526 00:21:12,823 --> 00:21:14,307 How did-- so I asked them. 527 00:21:14,342 --> 00:21:15,308 I said, how come you-- 528 00:21:15,343 --> 00:21:16,309 what do you guys really do? 529 00:21:16,344 --> 00:21:17,690 And they go, oh, we're really robbers. 530 00:21:17,724 --> 00:21:18,725 That's what we do. 531 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:21,556 So they got the part. 532 00:21:21,590 --> 00:21:23,178 TERRY DUNN MEURER: When the actors didn't match 533 00:21:23,212 --> 00:21:25,284 the real people quite as well as we needed them to, 534 00:21:25,318 --> 00:21:29,046 we would use makeup and wigs to help create a better match. 535 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:31,428 And some of those wigs and mustaches 536 00:21:31,462 --> 00:21:33,326 actually made matters worse, I think. 537 00:21:33,361 --> 00:21:35,604 They-- looking back on some of those recreations, 538 00:21:35,639 --> 00:21:37,019 they were just too funny. 539 00:21:37,054 --> 00:21:39,850 There's actually an Instagram account called Wigs of Unsolved 540 00:21:39,884 --> 00:21:41,472 that one of our fans put together, 541 00:21:41,507 --> 00:21:44,303 and it's dedicated to the ridiculous-looking wigs 542 00:21:44,337 --> 00:21:46,891 of "Unsolved Mysteries." 543 00:21:46,926 --> 00:21:47,789 Don't stop, Holly. 544 00:21:47,823 --> 00:21:49,031 Just keep going. 545 00:21:49,066 --> 00:21:50,412 SHANNON MCGINN: Another funny part about the actors 546 00:21:50,447 --> 00:21:53,277 is-- we would come into town, and we would do local casting. 547 00:21:53,312 --> 00:21:55,797 And any time we would ask an actor 548 00:21:55,831 --> 00:21:59,490 if they could do something, like drive a stick shift car 549 00:21:59,525 --> 00:22:03,701 or ride a horse or swim or drive a boat, 550 00:22:03,736 --> 00:22:06,117 they would always say yes. 551 00:22:06,152 --> 00:22:09,431 So we did a story once about a couple, 552 00:22:09,466 --> 00:22:11,226 and they were horse riders. 553 00:22:11,260 --> 00:22:15,057 And so when we cast the lookalike actor, 554 00:22:15,092 --> 00:22:16,542 asked him if he rode a horse. 555 00:22:16,576 --> 00:22:18,578 Oh, yeah, I grew up on horses. 556 00:22:18,613 --> 00:22:21,270 I've ridden officers all my life. 557 00:22:21,305 --> 00:22:22,375 We hired these two. 558 00:22:22,410 --> 00:22:24,066 They got him up on a horse, and they were 559 00:22:24,101 --> 00:22:25,965 riding alongside of the road. 560 00:22:25,999 --> 00:22:28,416 It's supposed to be a nice, romantic ride 561 00:22:28,450 --> 00:22:30,970 together to establish their love relationship. 562 00:22:31,004 --> 00:22:33,213 And the horse just takes off, just 563 00:22:33,248 --> 00:22:35,526 galloping away from the set. 564 00:22:35,561 --> 00:22:36,907 Fast. 565 00:22:36,941 --> 00:22:39,737 And you could see he had no idea how to control this horse. 566 00:22:39,772 --> 00:22:41,877 He was hanging on for dear life. 567 00:22:41,912 --> 00:22:44,328 Luckily, the woman was a good horsewoman, 568 00:22:44,363 --> 00:22:46,399 and she was able to catch up to his horse, 569 00:22:46,434 --> 00:22:49,506 stop the horse before he fell off and really hurt himself. 570 00:22:49,540 --> 00:22:53,648 Needless to say, there were no horse riding scenes with him 571 00:22:53,682 --> 00:22:55,891 after. 572 00:22:55,926 --> 00:22:58,342 Have you got the note? 573 00:22:58,377 --> 00:22:59,412 What note? 574 00:22:59,447 --> 00:23:01,690 The note from the parking garage. 575 00:23:01,725 --> 00:23:03,036 STUART SCHWARTZ: For the most part, 576 00:23:03,071 --> 00:23:06,143 the actors in our recreations were actors who were just 577 00:23:06,177 --> 00:23:07,696 starting out in their careers. 578 00:23:07,731 --> 00:23:10,354 But sometimes some of those actors 579 00:23:10,389 --> 00:23:13,288 would actually become really famous. 580 00:23:13,322 --> 00:23:14,393 TERRY DUNN MEURER: Daniel Dae Kim 581 00:23:14,427 --> 00:23:16,429 was one actor who was cast on "Unsolved." 582 00:23:16,464 --> 00:23:18,431 He played the relative of a murder victim. 583 00:23:18,466 --> 00:23:20,364 [speaking korean] 584 00:23:20,399 --> 00:23:21,917 TERRY DUNN MEURER: And Cheryl Hines too. 585 00:23:21,952 --> 00:23:23,988 She played the mother of a child who was 586 00:23:24,023 --> 00:23:25,680 almost murdered by her nanny. 587 00:23:25,714 --> 00:23:27,095 DOCTOR: Can you tell me how this happened? 588 00:23:27,129 --> 00:23:30,305 I-- I-- she apparently had some sort of seizure 589 00:23:30,339 --> 00:23:32,445 and fell and hit her head. 590 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:33,791 How far was the fall? 591 00:23:33,826 --> 00:23:34,758 MOM: It wasn't far. 592 00:23:34,792 --> 00:23:35,759 She just fell on the floor. 593 00:23:35,793 --> 00:23:36,656 I don't know. 594 00:23:36,691 --> 00:23:37,554 I wasn't there. 595 00:23:37,588 --> 00:23:39,003 She was with the nanny. 596 00:23:39,038 --> 00:23:41,799 STUART SCHWARTZ: Perhaps the most famous of those actors 597 00:23:41,834 --> 00:23:43,422 was Matthew McConaughey. - I want talk to him. 598 00:23:43,456 --> 00:23:45,113 All right, honey. Honey, look. 599 00:23:45,147 --> 00:23:46,321 STUART SCHWARTZ: Who played a murder 600 00:23:46,355 --> 00:23:49,324 victim in one of our stories. 601 00:23:49,358 --> 00:23:52,327 And we all still laugh because the episode was shot in Texas, 602 00:23:52,361 --> 00:23:54,018 before Matthew even moved to LA. 603 00:23:54,053 --> 00:23:56,262 And it was in the summer, and it was hot. 604 00:23:56,296 --> 00:23:58,022 So the director told Matthew he could take 605 00:23:58,057 --> 00:24:00,093 his shirt off for the scene where the character was 606 00:24:00,128 --> 00:24:01,750 mowing the lawn. 607 00:24:01,785 --> 00:24:04,097 Now Matthew McConaughey is very famous 608 00:24:04,132 --> 00:24:05,823 for his shirtless scenes. 609 00:24:05,858 --> 00:24:06,859 Give me the keys! 610 00:24:06,893 --> 00:24:07,756 No! 611 00:24:07,791 --> 00:24:09,171 Tell him to give me the keys. 612 00:24:09,206 --> 00:24:10,276 MOM: Don't give him the keys. 613 00:24:10,310 --> 00:24:11,588 Tell him to give me the keys. 614 00:24:11,622 --> 00:24:13,486 If you don't leave, I'll call the police. 615 00:24:13,521 --> 00:24:16,489 STUART SCHWARTZ: And Matthew McConaughey had to do 616 00:24:16,524 --> 00:24:20,182 a fairly robust death scene. 617 00:24:20,217 --> 00:24:25,084 He was working in his garage, and he was shot by a man 618 00:24:25,118 --> 00:24:26,879 who pulled up with a shotgun. 619 00:24:26,913 --> 00:24:29,226 ROBERT STACK: Larry had been shot four times in the chest 620 00:24:29,260 --> 00:24:31,849 and once in the head with a .22 pistol. 621 00:24:31,884 --> 00:24:33,713 STUART SCHWARTZ: Let's just say that his acting 622 00:24:33,748 --> 00:24:37,372 has come a long way since then. 623 00:24:37,406 --> 00:24:39,857 And in fact, he did an appearance on "The Tonight 624 00:24:39,892 --> 00:24:43,861 Show," and he referred to the "Unsolved Mysteries" story 625 00:24:43,896 --> 00:24:47,831 in that segment as his first big break in Hollywood. 626 00:24:47,865 --> 00:24:51,351 [music playing] 627 00:24:52,491 --> 00:24:55,010 It was a big challenge making TV in those days. 628 00:24:55,045 --> 00:24:57,599 I remember when computers came out, and you had-- 629 00:24:57,634 --> 00:25:01,569 its own suitcase, lugging it around and the first Motorola 630 00:25:01,603 --> 00:25:05,124 cell phones that were this brick that we were so excited 631 00:25:05,158 --> 00:25:07,540 that we could call from set. 632 00:25:07,575 --> 00:25:11,786 And we also shot on film, which requires so much more lighting. 633 00:25:11,820 --> 00:25:14,651 Sometimes, on a night shoot, you would spend the first six hours 634 00:25:14,685 --> 00:25:17,757 lighting, and then you'd have the other half a day 635 00:25:17,792 --> 00:25:19,034 to do the shooting. 636 00:25:19,069 --> 00:25:22,244 And now you put up one light, and you're ready to go. 637 00:25:22,279 --> 00:25:24,868 I think the hardest part of producing "Unsolved Mysteries" 638 00:25:24,902 --> 00:25:26,801 was that essentially, we were shooting 639 00:25:26,835 --> 00:25:29,735 a mini movie in four or five days with actors 640 00:25:29,769 --> 00:25:33,152 and costumes and vehicles. 641 00:25:33,186 --> 00:25:34,740 RAYMOND BRIDGERS: There were a lot of challenges 642 00:25:34,774 --> 00:25:35,879 on the production. 643 00:25:35,913 --> 00:25:39,227 And sometimes you'd end up with huge set pieces 644 00:25:39,261 --> 00:25:45,440 because it'd be a big crime or some kind of event happening. 645 00:25:45,474 --> 00:25:48,029 And a lot of the directors, we came 646 00:25:48,063 --> 00:25:49,686 from the documentary world, where 647 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:54,587 we were used to sitting back and just recording and documenting 648 00:25:54,622 --> 00:25:57,245 what was going on. 649 00:25:57,279 --> 00:25:59,419 Suddenly, we've got actors. 650 00:25:59,454 --> 00:26:00,628 We've got props. 651 00:26:00,662 --> 00:26:03,147 We've got period pieces. 652 00:26:03,182 --> 00:26:07,048 I think it really spurred the creativity because John 653 00:26:07,082 --> 00:26:09,084 and Terry weren't telling us-- they weren't saying, 654 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:12,605 no, don't do this, don't do that, do things this way. 655 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:15,332 They were saying, just go out there and get us 656 00:26:15,366 --> 00:26:18,611 a great story because we trust your judgment. 657 00:26:21,752 --> 00:26:23,340 I think one of the most memorable stories 658 00:26:23,374 --> 00:26:26,170 that I directed was a story called "KC Blast." 659 00:26:26,205 --> 00:26:29,311 It was a story about six firefighters 660 00:26:29,346 --> 00:26:32,625 who died while fighting a fire at a construction site. 661 00:26:32,660 --> 00:26:34,316 DISPATCHER: Pump for 30 to 97. 662 00:26:34,351 --> 00:26:37,596 So as a director, I had to try to find a way to recreate 663 00:26:37,630 --> 00:26:39,839 this moment, so the audience really 664 00:26:39,874 --> 00:26:42,773 feels that what the firefighters were up against 665 00:26:42,808 --> 00:26:45,673 and the tragedy of what happened. 666 00:26:45,707 --> 00:26:48,158 So we try to make it as real as we could. 667 00:26:48,192 --> 00:26:49,297 We exploded it. 668 00:26:49,331 --> 00:26:51,540 And we brought in some dummies and put 669 00:26:51,575 --> 00:26:52,783 them in firefighter suits. 670 00:26:52,818 --> 00:26:54,958 There's shots where you see what looks 671 00:26:54,992 --> 00:27:01,447 like firefighters getting blown away literally by the fire. 672 00:27:01,481 --> 00:27:04,139 I felt like we really were able to capture that moment 673 00:27:04,174 --> 00:27:05,934 and how tragic this event really was. 674 00:27:08,488 --> 00:27:11,284 DISPATCHER: Pumper 41 or Pumper 30. 675 00:27:11,319 --> 00:27:13,873 Pumper 41 or Pumper 30. 676 00:27:13,908 --> 00:27:15,392 For some reason, this one really 677 00:27:15,426 --> 00:27:18,084 hit home for me because these were firefighters. 678 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:21,570 They're just doing their job trying to save property 679 00:27:21,605 --> 00:27:24,746 and they died in the process. 680 00:27:24,781 --> 00:27:26,334 Obviously, it was hard for us as a crew 681 00:27:26,368 --> 00:27:28,681 to hear those kinds of stories. 682 00:27:31,408 --> 00:27:32,478 Look at this. 683 00:27:32,512 --> 00:27:34,342 DAD: What do you got? 684 00:27:34,376 --> 00:27:36,620 There's some weird tracks. 685 00:27:36,655 --> 00:27:39,347 BEN STASSEN: One of the most memorable stories from Unsolved 686 00:27:39,381 --> 00:27:40,900 was "Bigfoot." 687 00:27:40,935 --> 00:27:44,593 We rented the Harry and the Hendersons Bigfoot costume, 688 00:27:44,628 --> 00:27:49,288 and we hired the 6 foot 7 inch actor to wear the costume. 689 00:27:49,322 --> 00:27:51,739 And he was a rather foreboding figure. 690 00:27:51,773 --> 00:27:54,051 One of the sightings in the Bigfoot story 691 00:27:54,086 --> 00:27:56,813 took place outside of a bar at 2:00 692 00:27:56,847 --> 00:27:59,712 in the morning when the crowd came out. 693 00:27:59,747 --> 00:28:02,370 We're set up and we're filming and we're filming 694 00:28:02,404 --> 00:28:04,613 and we're filming and the bar closes. 695 00:28:04,648 --> 00:28:06,995 And a half a dozen patrons come out of the bar, 696 00:28:07,030 --> 00:28:10,102 clearly, they'd been imbibing most of the evening, 697 00:28:10,136 --> 00:28:11,966 and the Bigfoot goes by. 698 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:15,107 A couple of people scream, and one of the guys 699 00:28:15,141 --> 00:28:19,042 actually jumped off the curb and chased the Bigfoot. 700 00:28:19,076 --> 00:28:20,768 The entire crew lost it. 701 00:28:20,802 --> 00:28:24,012 Everybody broke up because it was just hysterical. 702 00:28:24,047 --> 00:28:28,051 It was one of the best moments in the 14 years 703 00:28:28,085 --> 00:28:30,605 I worked for the show. 704 00:28:30,639 --> 00:28:33,435 On March 1st at exactly 7:27 PM, 705 00:28:33,470 --> 00:28:36,335 tragedy struck the West End Baptist Church. 706 00:28:36,369 --> 00:28:39,510 JOHN COSGROVE: There was a story we did called the "Lucky Choir" 707 00:28:39,545 --> 00:28:44,067 and it was a story about a church that had an explosion, 708 00:28:44,101 --> 00:28:45,516 a gas heater went. 709 00:28:45,551 --> 00:28:48,934 SHANNON MCGINN: All 10 to 12 people showed up late that day. 710 00:28:48,968 --> 00:28:51,868 So it blew up and there was nobody inside the church. 711 00:28:51,902 --> 00:28:55,457 We found a little abandoned church in the state 712 00:28:55,492 --> 00:28:57,425 where this had happened and they were 713 00:28:57,459 --> 00:28:59,220 going to let us blow it up. 714 00:28:59,254 --> 00:29:02,257 JOHN COSGROVE: We hired a special effects fellow. 715 00:29:02,292 --> 00:29:05,157 And the director said don't go too far, 716 00:29:05,191 --> 00:29:10,058 we don't want to rattle the windows in the neighborhood. 717 00:29:10,093 --> 00:29:13,303 He completely overdid the amount 718 00:29:13,337 --> 00:29:15,995 of dynamite and explosives inside the church. 719 00:29:18,722 --> 00:29:19,758 JOHN COSGROVE: Boom. 720 00:29:19,792 --> 00:29:20,655 Boom. 721 00:29:20,689 --> 00:29:22,174 It was a huge explosion. 722 00:29:22,208 --> 00:29:23,520 It didn't rattle the windows. 723 00:29:23,554 --> 00:29:28,214 It broke windows for about five or six blocks all around. 724 00:29:28,249 --> 00:29:30,216 SHANNON MCGINN: And also not only did it explode, 725 00:29:30,251 --> 00:29:33,633 but all these pieces of wood started flying and hitting 726 00:29:33,668 --> 00:29:38,259 the hut, and the producer almost got stabbed by a piece 727 00:29:38,293 --> 00:29:39,985 of wood coming through. 728 00:29:40,019 --> 00:29:42,435 So I guess it was a second miracle 729 00:29:42,470 --> 00:29:44,092 that nobody was injured. 730 00:29:47,855 --> 00:29:50,202 ROBERT STACK: The story began with a violent storm 731 00:29:50,236 --> 00:29:54,275 on July 2nd 1947. 732 00:29:54,309 --> 00:29:58,244 RAYMOND BRIDGERS: As a director, probably my best memory 733 00:29:58,279 --> 00:30:01,661 is the "Roswell" UFO story. 734 00:30:01,696 --> 00:30:07,875 We built a two scale replica of the flying saucer 735 00:30:07,909 --> 00:30:11,568 that someone claimed to have seen crashed in a gully 736 00:30:11,602 --> 00:30:12,845 in New Mexico. 737 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:18,644 We created alien beings based on eyewitness accounts. 738 00:30:18,678 --> 00:30:20,404 That's really the first time that I 739 00:30:20,439 --> 00:30:21,992 felt like I was making a movie. 740 00:30:25,962 --> 00:30:27,480 BEN STASSEN: One of the strangest stories 741 00:30:27,515 --> 00:30:30,552 that I ever directed was a story called "Rainboy." 742 00:30:30,587 --> 00:30:34,315 This guy was possessed and he had the capacity 743 00:30:34,349 --> 00:30:37,801 to make it rain inside. 744 00:30:37,836 --> 00:30:41,632 If you're going to have it rain inside, you have to have 745 00:30:41,667 --> 00:30:44,981 what's called a wet set, which means that you build 746 00:30:45,015 --> 00:30:47,190 the set at a 30-degree angle, so all 747 00:30:47,224 --> 00:30:51,228 the water runs off into a trough that is then recovered. 748 00:30:51,263 --> 00:30:52,367 What's up? 749 00:30:52,402 --> 00:30:53,644 BEN STASSEN: We ended up putting sprinklers 750 00:30:53,679 --> 00:30:57,131 off camera in the ceiling. 751 00:30:57,165 --> 00:31:00,237 We just basically turned them on and off to create the effect. 752 00:31:00,272 --> 00:31:01,963 We had to waterproof the living room 753 00:31:01,998 --> 00:31:04,034 floor, walls and furniture. 754 00:31:04,069 --> 00:31:06,381 And then after each take quickly rush in 755 00:31:06,416 --> 00:31:08,452 and squeegee off the floors. 756 00:31:08,487 --> 00:31:09,833 BEN STASSEN: In between every take, 757 00:31:09,868 --> 00:31:13,733 it was like 35 or 40 minutes for the second take. 758 00:31:13,768 --> 00:31:15,356 The actor's hair was wet. 759 00:31:15,390 --> 00:31:17,737 The actor's wardrobe was wet. 760 00:31:17,772 --> 00:31:20,533 We had industrial dryers to dry the soaked clothes 761 00:31:20,568 --> 00:31:22,501 and our poor wardrobe supervisor really 762 00:31:22,535 --> 00:31:23,916 had our work cut out for her. 763 00:31:23,951 --> 00:31:25,228 It was a nightmare. 764 00:31:25,262 --> 00:31:27,782 This is your fault. You made it rain in the living room. 765 00:31:27,816 --> 00:31:29,301 You made it rain in peps places. 766 00:31:29,335 --> 00:31:30,647 This is all your fault. 767 00:31:30,681 --> 00:31:32,028 It's you, Danny. 768 00:31:32,062 --> 00:31:35,963 You're the one that's doing this and you have to make it stop. 769 00:31:35,997 --> 00:31:38,206 The pots and pans that were over the stove, they 770 00:31:38,241 --> 00:31:40,105 started rattling. 771 00:31:40,139 --> 00:31:42,314 That's when I got levitated off the floor. 772 00:31:42,348 --> 00:31:43,971 We used a hidden harness to levitate 773 00:31:44,005 --> 00:31:47,664 the actor and a bungee rig to slingshot him across the room. 774 00:31:47,698 --> 00:31:50,287 It wasn't like somebody taking your hand and pushing you. 775 00:31:50,322 --> 00:31:53,497 It was like feeling it all over your body. 776 00:31:53,532 --> 00:31:55,914 BEN STASSEN: One of the weirdest things about Rainboy 777 00:31:55,948 --> 00:31:58,882 was that on the morning we left, all the crew was 778 00:31:58,917 --> 00:32:01,540 on the same floor in the hotel. 779 00:32:01,574 --> 00:32:05,199 And there was two inches of water in everyone's room, 780 00:32:05,233 --> 00:32:08,754 including the hallway outside our room. 781 00:32:08,788 --> 00:32:10,480 I called the hotel manager who said 782 00:32:10,514 --> 00:32:12,413 there wasn't a plumbing problem and there 783 00:32:12,447 --> 00:32:14,173 was nothing to explain it. 784 00:32:14,208 --> 00:32:16,589 So whether or not it was a supernatural force that 785 00:32:16,624 --> 00:32:18,971 was instigated by the Rainboy who, in fact, 786 00:32:19,006 --> 00:32:21,940 we had interviewed during the show, I'll leave it to you. 787 00:32:25,046 --> 00:32:26,254 STUART SCHWARTZ: And a lot of stories 788 00:32:26,289 --> 00:32:30,293 we also employed special effects for things like car 789 00:32:30,327 --> 00:32:32,364 crashes and stunts. 790 00:32:32,398 --> 00:32:36,264 And those were very real because those were created 791 00:32:36,299 --> 00:32:38,439 by real Hollywood stuntmen. 792 00:32:38,473 --> 00:32:40,372 JOHN JOSEPH: Well, you got a story where this guy lived 793 00:32:40,406 --> 00:32:42,408 in a small town and for some reason, 794 00:32:42,443 --> 00:32:45,066 he jumped on an airplane to leave the town. 795 00:32:45,101 --> 00:32:46,102 What a story? 796 00:32:46,136 --> 00:32:47,551 I mean, we're like, OK, wait a minute. 797 00:32:47,586 --> 00:32:50,209 Now we're going to show this guy getting on a wing and the plane 798 00:32:50,244 --> 00:32:52,108 taking off with the guy on the wing. 799 00:32:52,142 --> 00:32:53,350 How are we going to do that? 800 00:32:53,385 --> 00:32:55,697 We had to have a stunt pilot who could fly the plane. 801 00:32:55,732 --> 00:32:57,665 We had to find a stunt guy who would 802 00:32:57,699 --> 00:32:59,253 be willing to get on the wing. 803 00:32:59,287 --> 00:33:02,566 We made special rigging so the person could hang on the plane, 804 00:33:02,601 --> 00:33:04,051 and you couldn't see it on the camera. 805 00:33:04,085 --> 00:33:05,397 And I couldn't watch. 806 00:33:05,431 --> 00:33:09,228 I mean, I did watch, but I can't believe we're doing this. 807 00:33:09,263 --> 00:33:10,643 We did pull it off. 808 00:33:10,678 --> 00:33:12,507 Nobody got hurt. 809 00:33:12,542 --> 00:33:13,474 You know what? 810 00:33:13,508 --> 00:33:15,303 It was amazing they solved the case. 811 00:33:15,338 --> 00:33:17,271 The whole mystery was who was this guy 812 00:33:17,305 --> 00:33:18,410 and why did he jump on the plane, 813 00:33:18,444 --> 00:33:19,825 and they were actually able to identify 814 00:33:19,859 --> 00:33:21,275 him and find out what happened. 815 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,040 SHANNON MCGINN: As the seasons went on, 816 00:33:28,075 --> 00:33:31,906 we got more complex with stunts and with special effects 817 00:33:31,940 --> 00:33:35,772 and we were able to do much bigger stories. 818 00:33:35,806 --> 00:33:40,432 One that I produced was about a woman who had actually 819 00:33:40,466 --> 00:33:44,470 gotten run over by a boat on a lake, but it was a hit and run. 820 00:33:44,505 --> 00:33:48,336 So to do that reenactment, we actually had to jump like boats 821 00:33:48,371 --> 00:33:50,442 over each other off of a ramp. 822 00:33:50,476 --> 00:33:52,133 They had to build the ramp in the water. 823 00:33:52,168 --> 00:33:55,723 We had to put a camera in the boat. 824 00:33:55,757 --> 00:33:57,483 It took multiple nights of shooting. 825 00:34:00,210 --> 00:34:01,487 No one was hurt. 826 00:34:01,522 --> 00:34:04,318 And I would just always be so happy when it was over 827 00:34:04,352 --> 00:34:06,665 and we were done and we got what we needed. 828 00:34:06,699 --> 00:34:08,184 You stay here. 829 00:34:08,218 --> 00:34:09,495 JOHN JOSEPH: We were working on a story 830 00:34:09,530 --> 00:34:11,497 about a murder that happened inside a trailer that 831 00:34:11,532 --> 00:34:12,533 was burning. 832 00:34:12,567 --> 00:34:14,259 So I had literally four or five people 833 00:34:14,293 --> 00:34:16,226 running around inside a burning trailer, 834 00:34:16,261 --> 00:34:17,779 and we're trying to figure out how to do 835 00:34:17,814 --> 00:34:19,091 this and make it look real. 836 00:34:19,126 --> 00:34:22,232 And what they did was they piped the inside of the trailer 837 00:34:22,267 --> 00:34:25,753 with like you turn on your gas stove like gas lines 838 00:34:25,787 --> 00:34:28,100 that they could turn on and turn off. 839 00:34:28,135 --> 00:34:30,792 Literally we go action, they turn it on, 840 00:34:30,827 --> 00:34:32,656 the fire would start, we'd run it 841 00:34:32,691 --> 00:34:33,899 for like two or three minutes. 842 00:34:33,933 --> 00:34:36,350 Because we couldn't burn the walls because then it 843 00:34:36,384 --> 00:34:37,730 would look burn. 844 00:34:37,765 --> 00:34:39,836 At the end of the whole stunt, we did burn down the trailer 845 00:34:39,870 --> 00:34:41,803 but it was a really tricky stunt. 846 00:34:47,326 --> 00:34:48,638 STUART SCHWARTZ: One of the great things 847 00:34:48,672 --> 00:34:51,572 about Unsolved Mysteries for the audience and also for us 848 00:34:51,606 --> 00:34:56,611 as producers is that we traveled all over the world. 849 00:34:56,646 --> 00:34:59,027 BEN STASSEN: The most memorable international story that I 850 00:34:59,062 --> 00:35:00,788 directed was "Mummy's Curse." 851 00:35:00,822 --> 00:35:04,895 We spent two nights in the Egyptian Museum. 852 00:35:04,930 --> 00:35:08,416 We were in the treasure room with all the treasures 853 00:35:08,451 --> 00:35:12,040 that Howard Carter had pulled out of the tomb. 854 00:35:12,075 --> 00:35:18,426 The life mask of Tutankhamun is likely the most iconic artifact 855 00:35:18,461 --> 00:35:20,566 ever created by the human race. 856 00:35:20,601 --> 00:35:22,430 It was really awesome. 857 00:35:22,465 --> 00:35:25,157 TERRY DUNN MEURER: In Turkey, we search for "Noah's Ark" 858 00:35:25,192 --> 00:35:28,609 and we did the miracle at "Fatima" in Portugal. 859 00:35:28,643 --> 00:35:31,336 We filmed a number of cases in Mexico. 860 00:35:31,370 --> 00:35:34,822 "Nazca Lines" in Peru, and in the South Pacific 861 00:35:34,856 --> 00:35:36,444 we did a story about "Amelia Earhart." 862 00:35:36,479 --> 00:35:38,343 We got Wallach. 863 00:35:38,377 --> 00:35:40,207 Amelia Earhart. 864 00:35:40,241 --> 00:35:42,070 What's this stuff doing here? 865 00:35:42,105 --> 00:35:44,556 SHANNON MCGINN: One of the most interesting episodes I produced 866 00:35:44,590 --> 00:35:46,489 was about "Anastasia." 867 00:35:46,523 --> 00:35:50,113 This was in the early 90s and Russia had just opened up. 868 00:35:50,148 --> 00:35:51,770 [foreign language] 869 00:35:53,220 --> 00:35:56,568 Yes, but I would like to see the pictures. 870 00:35:56,602 --> 00:35:58,466 SHANNON MCGINN: So the challenge of shooting in Russia 871 00:35:58,501 --> 00:36:01,262 was so complex. 872 00:36:01,297 --> 00:36:04,852 First of all, we only took a couple of Americans 873 00:36:04,886 --> 00:36:06,647 and hired everybody else locally. 874 00:36:06,681 --> 00:36:09,684 So that means everything had to be translated because very 875 00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:11,859 few Russians spoke English. 876 00:36:11,893 --> 00:36:14,413 ROBERT STACK: And so the great riddle continues. 877 00:36:14,448 --> 00:36:17,036 Is the body of Grand Duchess Anastasia 878 00:36:17,071 --> 00:36:19,556 hidden in a shallow grave near the spot 879 00:36:19,591 --> 00:36:23,905 where the rest of her family was found or did Anastasia somehow 880 00:36:23,940 --> 00:36:26,011 survive the assassination? 881 00:36:26,045 --> 00:36:29,911 Only to emerge years later as the eccentric Anna Anderson. 882 00:36:29,946 --> 00:36:31,810 JOHN JOSEPH: They were trying to prove that Anastasia 883 00:36:31,844 --> 00:36:33,191 wasn't in the grave. 884 00:36:33,225 --> 00:36:37,333 And there was a number of women who had claimed to be Anastasia 885 00:36:37,367 --> 00:36:39,783 and she was still alive. 886 00:36:39,818 --> 00:36:41,889 Suspect just exhumed these bodies 887 00:36:41,923 --> 00:36:45,444 and they literally laid out the entire family in this room 888 00:36:45,479 --> 00:36:47,964 so they could figure out who was who. 889 00:36:47,998 --> 00:36:49,448 We were ushered into this room. 890 00:36:49,483 --> 00:36:51,174 It was really astounding. 891 00:36:51,209 --> 00:36:52,865 It was just like watching history. 892 00:36:58,285 --> 00:37:00,148 TERRY DUNN MEURER: I think everyone who worked on the show 893 00:37:00,183 --> 00:37:01,702 and all the viewers probably have 894 00:37:01,736 --> 00:37:04,463 their own favorite Unsolved Mysteries case from the show. 895 00:37:07,604 --> 00:37:10,297 One of the really creepy and puzzling stories we did 896 00:37:10,331 --> 00:37:12,264 was about a woman named Cindy James 897 00:37:12,299 --> 00:37:15,612 who had been terrorized by an unknown assailant for seven 898 00:37:15,647 --> 00:37:16,579 years. 899 00:37:16,613 --> 00:37:18,650 I mean, these attacks were crazy. 900 00:37:18,684 --> 00:37:20,824 He had a knife put through her hand. 901 00:37:20,859 --> 00:37:23,102 She was found unconscious numerous times. 902 00:37:23,137 --> 00:37:25,450 There was no independent corroboration. 903 00:37:25,484 --> 00:37:28,280 Cindy saw this person or sometimes she said there was 904 00:37:28,315 --> 00:37:29,971 two, sometimes three people. 905 00:37:30,006 --> 00:37:31,318 TERRY DUNN MEURER: And she was eventually 906 00:37:31,352 --> 00:37:34,631 found dead in the yard of an abandoned house. 907 00:37:34,666 --> 00:37:37,289 But then it turned out that there was a chance she had 908 00:37:37,324 --> 00:37:39,395 dissociative identity disorder. 909 00:37:39,429 --> 00:37:41,535 And one of her identities was actually 910 00:37:41,569 --> 00:37:43,399 the source of the attacks. 911 00:37:43,433 --> 00:37:46,056 Why are you doing this to me? 912 00:37:46,091 --> 00:37:47,195 TERRY DUNN MEURER: Then the theory 913 00:37:47,230 --> 00:37:49,232 became that one of her personalities 914 00:37:49,267 --> 00:37:50,440 had ultimately killed her. 915 00:37:50,475 --> 00:37:52,442 So the question was, did she really 916 00:37:52,477 --> 00:37:54,099 have an unknown assailant? 917 00:37:57,309 --> 00:37:59,518 I've got a young lad here who went to spirit. 918 00:37:59,553 --> 00:38:02,038 SHANNON MCGINN: We did an episode about a psychic artist. 919 00:38:02,072 --> 00:38:03,557 ROBERT STACK: During the past four decades, 920 00:38:03,591 --> 00:38:07,319 Coral Polge has drawn more than 100,000 eerie portraits. 921 00:38:07,354 --> 00:38:10,184 SHANNON MCGINN: She would go to big groups of people 922 00:38:10,218 --> 00:38:12,497 and she would touch the person's hand. 923 00:38:12,531 --> 00:38:15,258 And then just with a pad and a pencil, 924 00:38:15,293 --> 00:38:19,331 she would sketch a portrait of someone that had gone beyond, 925 00:38:19,366 --> 00:38:22,921 but that was related somehow to the person. 926 00:38:22,955 --> 00:38:26,959 CORAL POLGE: And I honestly don't quite know how I do it. 927 00:38:26,994 --> 00:38:29,134 I just sense them. 928 00:38:29,168 --> 00:38:34,588 Also there is an element of what we call automatic control, as 929 00:38:34,622 --> 00:38:39,178 if somebody takes over my hand and gives 930 00:38:39,213 --> 00:38:44,943 me a certain amount of help in getting the drawings accurate. 931 00:38:44,977 --> 00:38:46,841 SHANNON MCGINN: After we finished the episode, 932 00:38:46,876 --> 00:38:50,362 I asked if she could do a portrait for me. 933 00:38:50,397 --> 00:38:54,090 So she did one, it was an older lady, I didn't recognize it. 934 00:38:54,124 --> 00:38:56,748 She was a little frustrated so she said let me do another one. 935 00:38:56,782 --> 00:39:00,372 Did another one, older man, didn't recognize him. 936 00:39:00,407 --> 00:39:02,270 But I took the sketches with me. 937 00:39:02,305 --> 00:39:06,447 And I went home and my mom said, "Those are my grandparents." 938 00:39:06,482 --> 00:39:10,451 And she went and got photos of my great grandparents 939 00:39:10,486 --> 00:39:13,074 who I had never met and didn't know that what they look like. 940 00:39:13,109 --> 00:39:14,800 And the pictures that she showed me 941 00:39:14,835 --> 00:39:16,388 were so close to the sketches. 942 00:39:16,423 --> 00:39:20,979 They ended up using them in the episode against a photograph 943 00:39:21,013 --> 00:39:23,740 of the real people. 944 00:39:23,775 --> 00:39:25,742 ROBERT STACK: Morning coffee at K and Mike Fletcher 945 00:39:25,777 --> 00:39:28,158 is hardly ranked as an unsolved mystery, 946 00:39:28,193 --> 00:39:33,716 until the peculiar events of February 11th 1996. 947 00:39:33,750 --> 00:39:35,787 It happened just after 9:00 AM. 948 00:39:38,652 --> 00:39:40,550 STUART SCHWARTZ: One of the creepiest stories that we ever 949 00:39:40,585 --> 00:39:42,794 did was about a phenomenon called 950 00:39:42,828 --> 00:39:44,554 spontaneous human combustion. 951 00:39:44,589 --> 00:39:46,384 When a perfectly normal person burst 952 00:39:46,418 --> 00:39:49,835 into flame without warning and without apparent cause. 953 00:39:49,870 --> 00:39:51,112 STUART SCHWARTZ: One of the challenges 954 00:39:51,147 --> 00:39:53,770 in that story was the recreation, 955 00:39:53,805 --> 00:39:57,015 because we had to literally set somebody on fire. 956 00:39:57,049 --> 00:39:58,430 So how do you do that? 957 00:39:58,465 --> 00:40:03,262 Well, we used something called a fire suit which a stunt person 958 00:40:03,297 --> 00:40:07,094 would put on and the fire suit was coated with a flammable gel 959 00:40:07,128 --> 00:40:09,165 that you could actually set on fire. 960 00:40:09,199 --> 00:40:12,202 One of the things that happened is when we aired the story, 961 00:40:12,237 --> 00:40:14,964 we would get calls at our phone center 962 00:40:14,998 --> 00:40:17,553 from viewers who were scared that that 963 00:40:17,587 --> 00:40:18,795 was going to happen to them. 964 00:40:22,627 --> 00:40:24,145 After crushing Capone in Chicago, 965 00:40:24,180 --> 00:40:26,527 Eliot Ness became one of the most respected 966 00:40:26,562 --> 00:40:27,666 lawman in the country. 967 00:40:27,701 --> 00:40:29,081 TERRY DUNN MEURER: One story we produced 968 00:40:29,116 --> 00:40:30,635 was about the real Eliot Ness. 969 00:40:30,669 --> 00:40:33,327 It was about the only case that he'd never solved, 970 00:40:33,361 --> 00:40:36,088 and Bob loved doing that story. 971 00:40:36,123 --> 00:40:38,401 That was one of his favorites. 972 00:40:38,436 --> 00:40:42,232 TV ANNOUNCER: Tonight's episode, "The Waxey Gordon Story." 973 00:40:42,267 --> 00:40:44,545 Starring Robert Stack as Eliot Ness. 974 00:40:44,580 --> 00:40:45,857 TERRY DUNN MEURER: In the early 60s, 975 00:40:45,891 --> 00:40:48,376 Bob played the role of Eliot Ness in the Untouchables. 976 00:40:48,411 --> 00:40:52,519 And I think he really identified with Ness as a crime fighter. 977 00:40:52,553 --> 00:40:54,797 It's like Lexi's got his eye on New Jersey now. 978 00:40:54,831 --> 00:40:59,802 STUART SCHWARTZ: And he brought the gravitas of Eliot Ness 979 00:40:59,836 --> 00:41:02,805 to his role as a host of Unsolved Mysteries. 980 00:41:02,839 --> 00:41:05,842 RAYMOND BRIDGERS: He really loved this show. 981 00:41:05,877 --> 00:41:07,706 He loved being involved in it. 982 00:41:07,741 --> 00:41:09,121 He loved the mysteries. 983 00:41:09,156 --> 00:41:12,504 He always wanted to know what was the backstory. 984 00:41:12,539 --> 00:41:14,472 He was a big proponent of the show 985 00:41:14,506 --> 00:41:16,094 and a big champion of the show. 986 00:41:21,375 --> 00:41:22,480 TV ANNOUNCER: Update. 987 00:41:22,514 --> 00:41:24,792 Within minutes of our broadcast, two viewers 988 00:41:24,827 --> 00:41:26,725 call our 800 number to report that they 989 00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:30,039 recognized Arthur Frankfurt. 990 00:41:30,073 --> 00:41:31,419 RAYMOND BRIDGERS: It was pretty cool 991 00:41:31,454 --> 00:41:36,873 when cases started to be solved because people watching had 992 00:41:36,908 --> 00:41:40,014 a stake in the show. 993 00:41:40,049 --> 00:41:42,603 Even the very first episode of the first season, 994 00:41:42,638 --> 00:41:43,880 a case was solved. 995 00:41:43,915 --> 00:41:47,677 ROBERT STACK: June 21st 1986, Gail Delano 996 00:41:47,712 --> 00:41:50,784 drove alone to a restaurant in Brunswick, Maine 997 00:41:50,818 --> 00:41:52,958 to meet a blind date. 998 00:41:52,993 --> 00:41:54,270 BEN STASSEN: The first story I directed 999 00:41:54,304 --> 00:41:57,963 was about a young woman in Maine named Gail Delano, 1000 00:41:57,998 --> 00:42:00,069 and she had disappeared. 1001 00:42:00,103 --> 00:42:02,692 ROBERT STACK: If anyone watching tonight has seen Gail Delano 1002 00:42:02,727 --> 00:42:05,695 or knows anything about her mysterious disappearance, 1003 00:42:05,730 --> 00:42:08,077 please contact the Maine State Police. 1004 00:42:08,111 --> 00:42:10,044 BEN STASSEN: The thought among police and her family 1005 00:42:10,079 --> 00:42:12,668 was that she was answering personal ads 1006 00:42:12,702 --> 00:42:15,463 and she may have been abducted by one of the people 1007 00:42:15,498 --> 00:42:17,189 that she connected with. 1008 00:42:17,224 --> 00:42:20,123 The show aired, and someone who worked 1009 00:42:20,158 --> 00:42:23,713 in the morgue in a small town in Alabama 1010 00:42:23,748 --> 00:42:27,579 recognized Gail's photograph from Unsolved Mysteries 1011 00:42:27,614 --> 00:42:30,478 and in fact solved the mystery. 1012 00:42:30,513 --> 00:42:33,723 And that was the moment that I realized that this 1013 00:42:33,758 --> 00:42:36,105 was a different kind of show. 1014 00:42:36,139 --> 00:42:38,590 SHANNON MCGINN: The minute that we solved the mystery, 1015 00:42:38,625 --> 00:42:39,591 it exploded. 1016 00:42:39,626 --> 00:42:41,524 Even more people started to watch. 1017 00:42:41,559 --> 00:42:43,043 It was unbelievable. 1018 00:42:43,077 --> 00:42:46,184 Tonight, we present an unusual update about lost love. 1019 00:42:46,218 --> 00:42:48,358 CHRISTINE LENIG: Nobody loves anything more than hearing 1020 00:42:48,393 --> 00:42:50,809 Bob Stack say the word update, because then you 1021 00:42:50,844 --> 00:42:53,053 know a mystery has been solved. 1022 00:42:53,087 --> 00:42:54,364 RAYMOND BRIDGERS: When we got to solve, 1023 00:42:54,399 --> 00:42:57,126 we really went into scramble mode. 1024 00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:59,128 The next time we were on the air, 1025 00:42:59,162 --> 00:43:02,510 we wanted to update the audience as quickly as we could. 1026 00:43:02,545 --> 00:43:06,929 We sent crews out to do interviews and to get footage, 1027 00:43:06,963 --> 00:43:11,036 and we may have had a show that was all ready to go. 1028 00:43:11,071 --> 00:43:15,144 And suddenly, we're rearranging everything because we need 1029 00:43:15,178 --> 00:43:19,010 to free up 5 minutes of time. 1030 00:43:19,044 --> 00:43:22,565 So we always had extra stories so we could swap stories 1031 00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:24,912 in and out of shows as needed. 1032 00:43:24,947 --> 00:43:27,674 LAVAR BATES: When the guy from Unsolved Mysteries 1033 00:43:27,708 --> 00:43:31,022 called me said that Peggy had seen me on television 1034 00:43:31,056 --> 00:43:32,402 and seen me. 1035 00:43:32,437 --> 00:43:33,921 RAYMOND BRIDGERS: One of the things we had to do, of course, 1036 00:43:33,956 --> 00:43:35,233 was to pull Bob Stack in. 1037 00:43:35,267 --> 00:43:37,925 Sometimes we'd want to film him on camera. 1038 00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:39,340 It was never just like, Oh, an update. 1039 00:43:39,375 --> 00:43:40,238 Great. 1040 00:43:40,272 --> 00:43:41,411 It's on the air. 1041 00:43:41,446 --> 00:43:43,655 There was a lot that went on behind the scenes 1042 00:43:43,690 --> 00:43:44,967 to make that happen. 1043 00:43:45,001 --> 00:43:46,554 TERRY DUNN MEURER: When the series first began, 1044 00:43:46,589 --> 00:43:49,040 viewers were told to write to a PO box 1045 00:43:49,074 --> 00:43:51,559 and we got bags and bags full of viewer mail. 1046 00:43:51,594 --> 00:43:53,665 Then we went to an 800 number where 1047 00:43:53,700 --> 00:43:56,012 people would call a phone center and we 1048 00:43:56,047 --> 00:43:57,669 call that the Telecenter. 1049 00:43:57,704 --> 00:43:59,015 ROBERT STACK: For the past seven years, 1050 00:43:59,050 --> 00:44:02,225 the phone center has been an integral part of our operation. 1051 00:44:02,260 --> 00:44:03,710 TERRY DUNN MEURER: This was a huge room, 1052 00:44:03,744 --> 00:44:06,298 almost like a warehouse in Los Angeles. 1053 00:44:06,333 --> 00:44:08,335 And it was filled with probably 50 1054 00:44:08,369 --> 00:44:10,440 operators all sitting at desks each 1055 00:44:10,475 --> 00:44:11,925 with a phone in front of them. 1056 00:44:14,755 --> 00:44:16,067 Background action. 1057 00:44:16,101 --> 00:44:17,206 Action. 1058 00:44:17,240 --> 00:44:18,656 TERRY DUNN MEURER: And when the show would air, 1059 00:44:18,690 --> 00:44:21,417 it would start on the East Coast and the calls would immediately 1060 00:44:21,451 --> 00:44:23,661 start to come in with tips. 1061 00:44:23,695 --> 00:44:26,387 JOHN COSGROVE: What a fun part was the law enforcement people 1062 00:44:26,422 --> 00:44:30,391 were in the teller centers and if a veritable tip came in 1063 00:44:30,426 --> 00:44:33,049 that operators held up a red flag. 1064 00:44:33,084 --> 00:44:36,052 And every once in a while, you'd see like six or seven red flags 1065 00:44:36,087 --> 00:44:37,916 and scurrying around. 1066 00:44:37,951 --> 00:44:40,367 A case could be solved that night 1067 00:44:40,401 --> 00:44:42,507 and the audience loved it. 1068 00:44:45,096 --> 00:44:46,718 The capture of a criminal suspect 1069 00:44:46,753 --> 00:44:49,169 always brings us great satisfaction. 1070 00:44:49,203 --> 00:44:51,343 Tonight, another fugitive is in custody. 1071 00:44:51,378 --> 00:44:53,104 Thanks to your calls. 1072 00:44:53,138 --> 00:44:55,900 STUART SCHWARTZ: We did a fugitive case about a man 1073 00:44:55,934 --> 00:44:58,765 who was wanted and on the run. 1074 00:44:58,799 --> 00:45:00,939 We got a call at our phone center 1075 00:45:00,974 --> 00:45:05,426 from somebody who said that she was a housekeeper in a motel 1076 00:45:05,461 --> 00:45:07,912 and she had observed somebody who looked 1077 00:45:07,946 --> 00:45:09,707 exactly like our suspect. 1078 00:45:09,741 --> 00:45:10,846 PAM POTEETE: It's the way he acted. 1079 00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:12,640 He was weird. 1080 00:45:12,675 --> 00:45:15,126 Man he stood by the beds, in between the beds, 1081 00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:16,955 by the luggage. 1082 00:45:16,990 --> 00:45:18,370 He would never sit down. 1083 00:45:18,405 --> 00:45:20,787 They want you to make the beds, stuff like that. 1084 00:45:20,821 --> 00:45:22,374 STUART SCHWARTZ: She searched his trash can 1085 00:45:22,409 --> 00:45:25,757 and she found paper with his name on it. 1086 00:45:25,792 --> 00:45:27,863 We immediately notified the authorities 1087 00:45:27,897 --> 00:45:31,452 and they caught up with him and arrested him. 1088 00:45:31,487 --> 00:45:32,833 ROBERT STACK: The mystery of Melissa Mundy 1089 00:45:32,868 --> 00:45:36,941 begins in 1985 in the small Maryland town of Hancock. 1090 00:45:36,975 --> 00:45:39,598 JOHN COSGROVE: We did a story about a teenage girl 1091 00:45:39,633 --> 00:45:41,497 named Missy Mundy. 1092 00:45:41,531 --> 00:45:45,363 She got romantically involved with a man named 1093 00:45:45,397 --> 00:45:48,193 Jerry Strickland about five or six years older 1094 00:45:48,228 --> 00:45:51,334 of a shady character. 1095 00:45:51,369 --> 00:45:53,164 She ran away with him. 1096 00:45:53,198 --> 00:45:56,236 We wanted to tell this story to try to recover Missy Mundy 1097 00:45:56,270 --> 00:45:58,583 because she was in harm's way. 1098 00:45:58,617 --> 00:46:02,829 ROBERT STACK: Missy was swept off her feet by Jerry. 1099 00:46:02,863 --> 00:46:05,659 JOHN COSGROVE: And so we put up pictures of Missy and Jerry. 1100 00:46:05,693 --> 00:46:07,488 ROBERT STACK: Within minutes of our broadcast, 1101 00:46:07,523 --> 00:46:10,146 20 viewers in this small rural community 1102 00:46:10,181 --> 00:46:12,804 called the police to say they recognized Jerry 1103 00:46:12,839 --> 00:46:14,599 Strickland and Missy Mundy. 1104 00:46:14,633 --> 00:46:18,016 Seven hours later, the police arrested the fugitive couple 1105 00:46:18,051 --> 00:46:19,362 at a friend's house. 1106 00:46:19,397 --> 00:46:21,295 They discovered that Jerry and Missy had 1107 00:46:21,330 --> 00:46:23,781 themselves watched the broadcast and were 1108 00:46:23,815 --> 00:46:25,541 waiting for the police. 1109 00:46:25,575 --> 00:46:28,302 I figured the time was about seven hours and 15 minutes 1110 00:46:28,337 --> 00:46:31,374 from the time the Unsolved Mysteries aired 1111 00:46:31,409 --> 00:46:33,825 and he was in custody. 1112 00:46:33,860 --> 00:46:35,447 JOHN COSGROVE: When the police showed up, 1113 00:46:35,482 --> 00:46:38,381 he said "You must be from Unsolved Mysteries." 1114 00:46:38,416 --> 00:46:41,557 They've been watching Unsolved Mysteries and their own story 1115 00:46:41,591 --> 00:46:43,973 and sat there and waited for the police to come up. 1116 00:46:44,008 --> 00:46:45,803 And they put the cuffs on him and 1117 00:46:45,837 --> 00:46:49,082 about to push his head down so he could go in the police car. 1118 00:46:49,116 --> 00:46:53,949 And he said, "That's my favorite show Unsolved Mysteries." 1119 00:46:53,983 --> 00:46:55,364 TERRY DUNN MEURER: Some of the arrests 1120 00:46:55,398 --> 00:46:58,746 were really quite dramatic there was one fugitive named Dennis 1121 00:46:58,781 --> 00:47:01,335 Depue who was wanted for killing his wife, 1122 00:47:01,370 --> 00:47:04,856 and he led police on a 15 mile high speed chase. 1123 00:47:04,891 --> 00:47:07,134 He broke through a couple of police barriers. 1124 00:47:07,169 --> 00:47:10,793 He shot at the police, and then he turned the gun on himself. 1125 00:47:10,828 --> 00:47:13,071 He walk up to the van and you recognize him 1126 00:47:13,106 --> 00:47:15,867 as being the person that was on Unsolved Mysteries. 1127 00:47:15,902 --> 00:47:17,835 It's a funny feeling. 1128 00:47:17,869 --> 00:47:19,353 ROBERT STACK: Update. 1129 00:47:19,388 --> 00:47:20,907 TERRY DUNN MEURER: Sometimes, I catch myself 1130 00:47:20,941 --> 00:47:23,219 saying we solved these cases. 1131 00:47:23,254 --> 00:47:25,912 But the truth is, as the producers of the show, 1132 00:47:25,946 --> 00:47:28,293 we didn't solve these cases, it was the viewers 1133 00:47:28,328 --> 00:47:30,744 and it was diligent law enforcement agencies that 1134 00:47:30,778 --> 00:47:32,470 actually solve these cases. 1135 00:47:32,504 --> 00:47:35,093 It's hard to believe, but over 600 1136 00:47:35,128 --> 00:47:38,372 of all the cases we ever produced have been solved. 1137 00:47:38,407 --> 00:47:42,894 And 180 were wanted fugitives who were brought to justice. 1138 00:47:42,929 --> 00:47:46,518 And that's something we're very proud of. 1139 00:47:46,553 --> 00:47:49,004 STUART SCHWARTZ: One of the most satisfying kinds of stories 1140 00:47:49,038 --> 00:47:53,698 to do for us was what we call Lost Loves, where somebody was 1141 00:47:53,732 --> 00:47:56,528 looking to find someone who had been 1142 00:47:56,563 --> 00:47:58,220 really important in their life. 1143 00:47:58,254 --> 00:48:00,947 TERRY DUNN MEURER: These were stories of families torn apart 1144 00:48:00,981 --> 00:48:04,157 by adoption or maybe a war. 1145 00:48:04,191 --> 00:48:06,055 Sometimes people who just wanted to say 1146 00:48:06,090 --> 00:48:09,438 thank you to someone who had had an impact on their lives. 1147 00:48:09,472 --> 00:48:10,680 STUART SCHWARTZ: More often than not, 1148 00:48:10,715 --> 00:48:12,061 we would solve those stories. 1149 00:48:12,096 --> 00:48:16,445 And when we did, we would put together a reunion 1150 00:48:16,479 --> 00:48:18,826 and be able to film the first time 1151 00:48:18,861 --> 00:48:21,070 that those people saw each other. 1152 00:48:21,105 --> 00:48:24,177 And sometimes decades. 1153 00:48:24,211 --> 00:48:27,594 Those were very emotional, very live, 1154 00:48:27,628 --> 00:48:31,839 and caught on tape so to speak, really authentic. 1155 00:48:31,874 --> 00:48:34,290 The emotions were amazing. 1156 00:48:34,325 --> 00:48:36,465 It wasn't emotional just for them. 1157 00:48:36,499 --> 00:48:40,538 It was emotional for our crew, emotional for our viewers, 1158 00:48:40,572 --> 00:48:42,402 emotional for our producers. 1159 00:48:42,436 --> 00:48:46,716 The tears were flowing freely everywhere. 1160 00:48:46,751 --> 00:48:48,063 ROBERT STACK: For a mother and daughter, 1161 00:48:48,097 --> 00:48:51,963 it was an emotional end to 26 years of painful separation. 1162 00:48:55,863 --> 00:48:58,073 I think one of the most emotional cases 1163 00:48:58,107 --> 00:49:00,765 for me that was solved was one that we 1164 00:49:00,799 --> 00:49:02,940 called a final appeal story. 1165 00:49:02,974 --> 00:49:06,288 ROBERT STACK: July 9th 1989 at Saint Louis, Missouri, 1166 00:49:06,322 --> 00:49:08,428 Patty Stallings rushed her critically 1167 00:49:08,462 --> 00:49:09,912 ill son to the hospital. 1168 00:49:09,947 --> 00:49:12,535 TERRY DUNN MEURER: It was about a woman named Patty Stallings 1169 00:49:12,570 --> 00:49:15,780 who was accused of poisoning her five-month-old son 1170 00:49:15,814 --> 00:49:17,299 with antifreeze. 1171 00:49:17,333 --> 00:49:19,128 But there was strong evidence that she 1172 00:49:19,163 --> 00:49:21,061 had not killed her baby. 1173 00:49:21,096 --> 00:49:24,271 As a mother myself, it was just devastating to me 1174 00:49:24,306 --> 00:49:27,067 to think that this woman could spend the rest of her life 1175 00:49:27,102 --> 00:49:30,450 in prison knowing that she had not killed her child. 1176 00:49:30,484 --> 00:49:33,177 On the night the story aired, calls from physicians 1177 00:49:33,211 --> 00:49:36,663 familiar with MMA poured into our Telecenter. 1178 00:49:36,697 --> 00:49:39,045 Patty Stallings new attorneys petitioned the court 1179 00:49:39,079 --> 00:49:41,495 to grant her another trial, based on the fact 1180 00:49:41,530 --> 00:49:44,809 that she had previously received ineffectual counsel. 1181 00:49:44,843 --> 00:49:47,639 On July 30th 1991, Patty Stallings 1182 00:49:47,674 --> 00:49:50,366 was granted a new trial and released from prison. 1183 00:49:53,369 --> 00:49:55,371 After the Unsolved Mysteries aired, 1184 00:49:55,406 --> 00:49:57,546 people were writing and calling and just 1185 00:49:57,580 --> 00:49:59,997 want to know how can we help. 1186 00:50:00,031 --> 00:50:02,206 I can't thank those people enough because, 1187 00:50:02,240 --> 00:50:07,142 I mean, through all of that, wheels started turning 1188 00:50:07,176 --> 00:50:10,110 and everything just started pushing forward really fast. 1189 00:50:10,145 --> 00:50:11,974 TERRY DUNN MEURER: Medical experts and prosecutors 1190 00:50:12,009 --> 00:50:14,908 took another look and it was determined that Patty's son had 1191 00:50:14,942 --> 00:50:17,393 died from a rare genetic disease, 1192 00:50:17,428 --> 00:50:19,257 and she was released from prison. 1193 00:50:19,292 --> 00:50:21,915 Unfortunately, we can't undo the suffering 1194 00:50:21,949 --> 00:50:26,816 that the Stallings have endured during this entire ordeal. 1195 00:50:26,851 --> 00:50:29,198 I apologize to them both personally 1196 00:50:29,233 --> 00:50:30,786 and for the state of Missouri. 1197 00:50:30,820 --> 00:50:33,133 RAYMOND BRIDGERS: We always kind of felt like Unsolved Mysteries 1198 00:50:33,168 --> 00:50:36,378 went beyond television because a lot of people 1199 00:50:36,412 --> 00:50:38,759 were affected by this show, a lot of people 1200 00:50:38,794 --> 00:50:40,451 were helped by this show. 1201 00:50:40,485 --> 00:50:44,110 And this show brought some amount of comfort 1202 00:50:44,144 --> 00:50:45,525 to a lot of people. 1203 00:50:45,559 --> 00:50:48,045 As long as this show has been on the air 1204 00:50:48,079 --> 00:50:51,082 and as long as it's ever going to be on the air, 1205 00:50:51,117 --> 00:50:53,257 we're going to continue to do updates. 1206 00:50:53,291 --> 00:50:56,984 Stories get solved all the time that 1207 00:50:57,019 --> 00:51:00,816 aired five years ago, 10 years ago, 20 years ago, 1208 00:51:00,850 --> 00:51:02,300 and we're still doing updates. 1209 00:51:08,479 --> 00:51:09,480 What's your behind the music? 1210 00:51:09,514 --> 00:51:10,550 What's your Unsolved Mystery? 1211 00:51:10,584 --> 00:51:12,793 What's your true Hollywood story? 1212 00:51:12,828 --> 00:51:14,450 STUART SCHWARTZ: Over the years, Unsolved Mysteries 1213 00:51:14,485 --> 00:51:19,317 became a staple of television and also a household name. 1214 00:51:19,352 --> 00:51:23,942 That led to a lot of parodying of Unsolved Mysteries 1215 00:51:23,977 --> 00:51:25,116 on other shows. 1216 00:51:25,151 --> 00:51:27,912 Don't even get me started on Unsolved Mysteries. 1217 00:51:27,946 --> 00:51:31,571 STUART SCHWARTZ: It was really an homage to the series 1218 00:51:31,605 --> 00:51:35,368 and an affectionate parody and a compliment. 1219 00:51:35,402 --> 00:51:37,715 As the host of Unsolved Mysteries, 1220 00:51:37,749 --> 00:51:40,166 I've come to appreciate all the hard work 1221 00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:42,409 that goes into a dramatic recreation 1222 00:51:42,444 --> 00:51:43,824 of a real life event. 1223 00:51:43,859 --> 00:51:45,826 Saturday Night Live did a parody 1224 00:51:45,861 --> 00:51:47,449 of the way we did the recreations 1225 00:51:47,483 --> 00:51:49,934 of Unsolved Mysteries. 1226 00:51:49,968 --> 00:51:52,316 You have to take your knocks, like when you get famous, 1227 00:51:52,350 --> 00:51:54,041 you've got to take your knocks. 1228 00:51:54,076 --> 00:51:56,113 I think Unsolved Mysteries has remained popular 1229 00:51:56,147 --> 00:51:57,666 all these years because of all the viewers 1230 00:51:57,700 --> 00:52:00,496 around the world whose lives are touched. 1231 00:52:00,531 --> 00:52:03,396 After the show ended, I would travel on other projects, 1232 00:52:03,430 --> 00:52:06,364 sometimes wearing my Unsolved Mysteries jacket in airports. 1233 00:52:06,399 --> 00:52:09,022 And I was always stopped by fans of the show who told 1234 00:52:09,056 --> 00:52:11,542 me how much it meant to them. 1235 00:52:11,576 --> 00:52:13,854 It's been five weeks and the entire country 1236 00:52:13,889 --> 00:52:16,581 is demanding to know who committed this horrible crime. 1237 00:52:16,616 --> 00:52:17,755 STUART SCHWARTZ: Unsolved Mysteries 1238 00:52:17,789 --> 00:52:19,619 viewers were the best. 1239 00:52:19,653 --> 00:52:22,449 There are no other viewers on television like them. 1240 00:52:22,484 --> 00:52:25,003 I think it's because they felt they 1241 00:52:25,038 --> 00:52:26,626 were actually part of the show. 1242 00:52:26,660 --> 00:52:28,697 You could never be a part of will and grace, 1243 00:52:28,731 --> 00:52:31,217 you could never be a part of murder she wrote, 1244 00:52:31,251 --> 00:52:34,530 but you could be a part of Unsolved Mysteries. 1245 00:52:34,565 --> 00:52:35,911 BEN STASSEN: Unsolved Mysteries is simply 1246 00:52:35,945 --> 00:52:37,740 unlike anything I've ever worked on, 1247 00:52:37,775 --> 00:52:39,535 and I've been doing this for 50 years. 1248 00:52:39,570 --> 00:52:41,434 So that counts for something. 1249 00:52:41,468 --> 00:52:43,090 JOHN JOSEPH: I lost track of how many stories 1250 00:52:43,125 --> 00:52:45,092 they did on Unsolved, but what was really amazing 1251 00:52:45,127 --> 00:52:46,922 is that every story was unique. 1252 00:52:46,956 --> 00:52:48,613 It was different. 1253 00:52:48,648 --> 00:52:51,168 Having this experience was something I'll never forget. 1254 00:52:51,202 --> 00:52:52,721 It was really astounding. 1255 00:52:52,755 --> 00:52:54,516 What's most remarkable maybe is 1256 00:52:54,550 --> 00:52:57,277 the fact that Unsolved Mysteries has never been off the air. 1257 00:52:57,312 --> 00:53:00,970 I mean, it went from network into cable 1258 00:53:01,005 --> 00:53:03,041 and it's still going and reruns. 1259 00:53:03,076 --> 00:53:06,252 It's one of those shows that feels like it's been on the air 1260 00:53:06,286 --> 00:53:10,842 forever, and feels like it will always be on the air forever. 1261 00:53:10,877 --> 00:53:15,571 It's like I Love Lucy except it's a little scarier. 1262 00:53:15,606 --> 00:53:16,986 JOHN COSGROVE: One thing I feel is 1263 00:53:17,021 --> 00:53:20,473 that the show made a difference, and it feels so great to have 1264 00:53:20,507 --> 00:53:22,164 been a part of it. 1265 00:53:22,199 --> 00:53:24,304 TERRY DUNN MEURER: We are so proud of all that 1266 00:53:24,339 --> 00:53:25,961 Unsolved Mysteries has accomplished, 1267 00:53:25,995 --> 00:53:29,585 and we hope that more cases will continue to be solved. 1268 00:53:29,620 --> 00:53:31,138 John and I would love to take credit 1269 00:53:31,173 --> 00:53:32,485 for the success of this series. 1270 00:53:32,519 --> 00:53:35,522 But I truly believe that it's the Unsolved Mysteries fans 1271 00:53:35,557 --> 00:53:36,765 that deserve all the credit. 1272 00:53:36,799 --> 00:53:40,009 We are overwhelmed by the love that they 1273 00:53:40,044 --> 00:53:41,183 have shown for this series. 1274 00:53:41,218 --> 00:53:43,047 And we can't thank them enough for their help 1275 00:53:43,081 --> 00:53:45,118 in solving so many cases. 1276 00:53:45,152 --> 00:53:47,154 They've proven what we always believe 1277 00:53:47,189 --> 00:53:51,124 to be true, which is someone somewhere knows the truth. 1278 00:53:51,158 --> 00:53:53,437 Perhaps that someone is watching. 1279 00:53:53,471 --> 00:53:54,334 Perhaps it's you. 1280 00:53:54,369 --> 00:53:58,821 [theme music playing] 101586

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