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[man]
Seven twenty-four,
roger. Try to maintain 2,000.
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[pilot] Set to maintain 2,000.
Seven-two-four.
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[man] Coming in final four,
try to maintain 3,000.
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[pilot] Three-thousand.
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[indistinct radio chatter
continues]
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[woman] You're looking
at Westchester County Airport
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in White Plains, New York.
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Hillary Clinton
coming home to vote.
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This is Election Day.
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[crowd cheering]
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[crowd chanting]
Hillary! Hillary! Hillary!
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Hillary! Hillary! Hillary!
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[cheers and applause]
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♪ soft electronic music ♪
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♪
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[Heilemann] How's it feel?
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- Yeah?
- Yeah.
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I've been--this has been
a long, tough slog
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and a hard campaign
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and a crazy campaign.
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It's four o'clock.
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There are all these
people out here,
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you know, who have
come to see her.
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I'm just so proud of her.
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I can't--I just can't tell you
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why, uh--how much that
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makes me feel like
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just being a small part of it
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is so important.
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What will it feel like
tomorrow night if you lose?
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You know, I think, uh,
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in some ways, uh,
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it'll be just--
I-I don't know.
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It's sort of hard to even
kind of contemplate that.
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I think there's a kind of
profound responsibility
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and there'd be
such a crushing, uh,
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sense of loss
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if somebody
with his character
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was elected president
of the United States, so...
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I don't think
that's gonna happen.
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- Yeah.
- Yeah.
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And I'm standing here tonight,
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and I really don't think
that's gonna happen.
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♪ brooding electronic music ♪
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♪
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[Charlie Rose] A new series
on Showtime seeks to capture
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the 2016 presidential
election's
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jaw-dropping, head-scratching
moments in real time
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and aims to expose
not just
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the nitty-gritty
of how campaigns work
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but also the people
behind the candidates.
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It is called The Circus.
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Six up, TS, quick.
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We'll be right back.
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The star of The Circus.
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Yay!
It's Charlie Rose!
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Are you an elephant
or you--what are you?
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Ah!
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♪ playful music ♪
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[Heilemann] What's going on?
[Rose] You're going on.
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[Heilemann] What's going on?
[Rose] You are.
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[Rose] Cable TV, you can say
anything you want, can't you?
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I said on TV the other night,
I said,
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"I fucking hate
that motherfucker."
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And it just went--
and everybody loved that shit.
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On Showtime--you can
say anything on Showtime.
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[drumming desk]
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We're gonna have
a lot of fun doing it.
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I mean, it's gonna kill us.
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[Rose] This is gonna work
because you got McKinnon.
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That's the only friggin' reason
it's gonna work.
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He's got that fucking--
where's the--
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are you not wearing
the hat tonight?
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Hey, Captain, how are ya?
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Heilemann] Are you gonna be on
his show and not in the hat?
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[McKinnon] I guess
I have to wear the hat.
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[Rose] Look at that scarf.
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[Heilemann]
Got to wear the hat, dude.
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- [McKinnon] Okay, yeah.
- [Rose] Sit down.
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[Rose] Is Halperin joining us,
or is he...
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[Heilemann] Yeah, he had
his BlackBerry fixed.
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Nice to see you, sir.
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[Heilemann] Can see they're
fixing Halperin's BlackBerry.
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[Heilemann] Watch this.
Here he comes.
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♪ playful orchestration ♪
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Howdy, sir.
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Oh, don't stand up.
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Good to see you.
Of course I do.
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♪
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[McKinnon]
Can you tell us what guest
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has been on this show
more than any other guest?
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For a while,
it was Halperin.
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What-what do you mean,
"for a while"?
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[Rose]
Well, maybe it's still true.
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- [scoffs]
- [Rose] It may still be true.
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- That's...
- [laughter]
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♪ upbeat instrumental music ♪
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[Rose] Hey, guys,
you ready back there?
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♪
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[Rose] All right, here we go.
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[man]
Here we go.
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Five, four, three, two, one.
Cue.
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[Rose] The 2016
presidential election
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could be remembered
as one of the most bizarre
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and unpredictable
in American history.
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At this moment,
talk a bit about Trump.
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[whoosh]
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♪ brooding string music ♪
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[camera shutters clicking]
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[Trump]
Ladies and gentlemen...
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♪
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I am officially running...
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- [scattered cheers]
- [applause]
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...for president
of the United States.
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And we are going to make
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our country great again.
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I will build
a great, great wall
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on our southern border
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and I will have Mexico
pay for that wall.
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- [woman] Yes! Yes!
- Mark my words.
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When Mexico sends its people,
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they're not sending their best.
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They're bringing drugs.
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They're bringing crime.
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They're rapists.
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And some, I assume,
are good people.
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[woman]
How to take Donald Trump?
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Hmm, well,
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consider the newspapers
this morning,
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at least the tabloids.
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The Daily News considers
Trump a "clown."
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The New York Post considers,
uh, Trump
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a rich guy who could
make it to the White House?
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♪
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[man] I got to talk
about Donald Trump.
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How does he impact this race?
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[woman] I don't think
he does at all.
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Look, aside from being
incredibly entertaining,
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Donald Trump lacks
the seriousness of the kind
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of candidate that Republicans
desperately need right now.
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[woman] Once you enter
the world of politics,
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there's a different bar,
different standard.
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[man] To say that that makes
him serious is ridiculous.
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[woman] We never said--
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[man] The guy was talking
about how Mexicans are rapists.
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[woman] Rapists?
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People lose their jobs
over words like those.
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[woman] Donald Trump touching
off a political firestorm
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by insulting John McCain.
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He's a war hero
'cause he was captured.
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I like people
that weren't captured, okay?
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I hate to tell ya.
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Hats and T-shirts
right here, y'all.
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[woman] The latest uproar
was sparked
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after making comments
about Megyn Kelly.
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[Trump] But you can see
there was blood
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coming out of her eyes.
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Blood coming out
of her wherever.
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[man] But many people
perceived that
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as a reference
to Kelly's period.
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Honestly, I can't even believe
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I'm talking about this
on TV right now.
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Buttons, flags, T-shirts.
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rump] You got to see this guy.
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"Oh, I don't know what I said.
Ah. I don't know..."
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woman] Trump last night mocked
New York Times reporter
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who suffers from
a physical handicap.
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[man] A lot of them still want
to treat him like a clown,
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like a reality show guy.
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The bottom line is, he is
the Republican front-runner.
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[Trump] Donald J. Trump
is calling for
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a total and complete shutdown
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of Muslims
entering the United States.
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[crowd chanting]
Trump! Trump! Trump!
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[woman] Critics argue
Trump crossed a line.
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Others wonder whether, for him,
a line even exists.
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♪ Enemies of freedom ♪
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♪ Face the music ♪
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♪ Come on, boys,
take 'em down ♪
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Can you imagine Donald Trump
standing up one day
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and delivering
a State of the Union address?
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Well, I can imagine it
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in a Saturday Night skit.
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♪ militaristic music
continues ♪
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He's not gonna be president
of the United States.
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[crowd cheering]
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[amplifier feedback whines]
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[man] Go music.
Crank it now.
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[Survivor's "Eye of the Tiger"
playing over speakers]
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[crowd cheering]
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♪
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[man over speaker]
Ladies and gentlemen,
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please welcome the next
president of the United States,
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Mr. Donald J. Trump.
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[crowd cheering]
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♪
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[music concludes]
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Oh, that is amazing.
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We don't win anymore,
you understand that.
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Every country in the world
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is ripping us off.
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Every country in the world.
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We lost
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millions and millions of jobs
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to these people.
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Fifty-five thousand factories
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and manufacturing plants--
55,000!
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Who would think
that's even possible?
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They'll leave here
and they'll move to Europe
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or they'll move to Asia.
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It's a real bad scene.
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And it's gonna continue if you
put any of these other people--
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It's not gonna continue
with me.
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With me, it's real simple.
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I'm gonna do
what's right for you.
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- [crowd cheering]
- And you.
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And we're gonna bring
those jobs back from China.
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I love China!
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But we're gonna
bring them back from China.
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And by the way,
we will build a wall.
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- We will build a wall!
- [crowd cheering]
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We will build a wall.
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We're going to win
at every single level.
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We're gonna win so much,
you're gonna beg me.
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You're gonna say,
"Mr. President,
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we're so tired of winning,
we can't take it anymore.
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Please, don't win anymore.
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Mr. President, please,
have one or two losses."
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And I'll say,
"No, I won't do that."
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The American dream is dead,
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but we're going to make it
bigger and better
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and stronger than ever before.
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And I love you.
Thank you very much, everybody.
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Thank you.
Thank you.
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[McKinnon] Hold on one second.
Where's the volume on this?
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♪ soft eerie music ♪
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[woman] Whoo!
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[woman]
Trump speaks the truth!
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Mr. Halperin,
are you miked?
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[Heilemann] We haven't really
seen anything like this
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in American politics
in this millennium.
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Make America great again.
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[Heilemann]
This has got the flavor of
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- a music festival, right?
- [McKinnon] Yeah.
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eilemann] They're fans as much
they are voters, right?
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[McKinnon] There's a movement
psychology for sure.
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- Yeah.
- [McKinnon] They feel like
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they're part of something
special and unique
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and they want to be there
to experience it.
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[Heilemann] Donald Trump,
love him or hate him,
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he said some things that people
think are vile and offensive.
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Whatever you think about Trump,
though, ideologically,
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he's such a big figure.
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There's a lot
of charisma there.
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There's a lot of just
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I understand why that guy's
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You got this huge
Republican field.
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You got chaos
in the establishment.
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[Fiorina]
Mismanaged going into Iraq.
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[Hewitt] Dr. Carson,
is the Middle East--
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[Fiorina]
We mismanaged going out.
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- [Hewitt] Dr. Carson.
- [Cruz] The question of
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- whether we can...
- Hold on, hold on.
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- The problem with defeat...
- [Blitzer] Senator. Senator.
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We're gonna get to you.
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[Fiorina] Hope at some point,
you're gonna ask me my strategy
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- for defeating ISIS.
- [Blitzer] We will get--we--
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we have a lot of time.
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Donald is great
at the, uh, one-liners.
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But he's a chaos candidate.
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- And he'd be a chaos president.
- [applause]
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We need toughness.
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Honestly, I think Jeb
is a very nice person.
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You said in September 30th
that ISIS was not a, uh...
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- Am I talking...
- ...not a factor.
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- ...or are you talking, Jeb?
- I'm talking right now.
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- You can go back.
- I'm talking right now.
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- You can go back.
- I'm talking.
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You're not talking.
You interrupted me, Jeb.
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- September 30th, you said it.
- Are you gonna apologize, Jeb?
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No.
Am I allowed to finish?
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[Heilemann] There's no
establishment front-runner.
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And there's no sign that
that's gonna change in any way.
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Brilliant. Prompter, thank you.
That was fantastic.
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- As you wish.
- [McKinnon] Okay, we need
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to run through the-the C, D,
E, F, G, H, I, J pages.
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[Heilemann] Oh, my God.
Jesus.
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Our brand-new Bloomberg Politics
Des Moines Register
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Iowa Poll is out today,
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shows Ted Cruz and Donald Trump
leading the pack
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in the Hawkeye State.
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They are basically tied.
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We know there are
deep cleavages in the party.
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is in so much trouble.
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- This foreshadows--
- Deep and passionate.
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This foreshadows
the fight we will see
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if Donald Trump wins
some combination
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of Iowa, New Hampshire,
South Carolina,
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three of three
or two of three.
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We will see a titanic fight
within the party
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unlike I can recall seeing
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- [church bell tolls on radio]
- [man on radio] It's time
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for Iowa Christians
to honor God
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by attending your Iowa caucus
on February 1st.
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[man on radio]
If you are currently in
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an early primary
or a caucus state,
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you certainly don't need
the likes of me to tell you
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that we're in the heat
of election season.
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- This is crunch time...
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...so the candidates
are all out there,
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trying to get their messages
to the public.
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- [Cruz] Two weeks ago...
- [camera shutters clicking]
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...just about every candidate
in the field
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was attacking Donald Trump.
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Now just about every candidate
in the Republican field
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is attacking me.
I-I guess something has changed.
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[camera shutters clicking]
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[Trump] You know, Ted Cruz,
you know, the Canadian,
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he's like a nervous wreck.
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He is dropping like a rock
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We're number one in every poll.
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It's almost embarrassing,
but let's keep it that way.
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- [crowd cheering]
- Let's keep it that way.
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All of my people
and all of the experts say,
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"Mr. Trump, don't say
you want to win.
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Just say you want to do well.
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Because that way,
you can't lose."
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I can't do that.
I want to win, Iowa.
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[woman] So the question for
him, above all others, is,
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can you turn these big crowds
into big turnouts
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and into support
at the ballot box?
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[crowd cheering]
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♪ ambient music ♪
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♪
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[indistinct chatter]
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[man] It's a very good night
for Ted Cruz.
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He has won in Iowa,
defeating Donald Trump.
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[crowd chanting] We want Ted!
We want Ted! We want Ted!
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[Cruz] Tonight Iowa
has sent notice
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that the Republican nominee
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and the next president
of the United States
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will not be chosen
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by the Washington
establishment.
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[crowd cheering]
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To God be the glory.
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[crowd cheering]
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You ready?
Just--
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- Here, hold on, let's flip.
- Okay, yup.
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[indistinct chatter]
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Good?
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Close that door so--
yeah, so we don't get...
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Just-just walk me
through your day.
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You woke up and how'd you feel
about what's gonna happen?
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You know, last night,
as you were watching
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the TV news,
every pundit on every station
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was saying, "Cruz can't win.
Cruz can't win.
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There's no way Cruz can win.
Trump's gonna win."
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I heard it on every station
from every political pundit.
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And yet what happened today
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is, the grassroots
proved them wrong.
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Congratulations.
Off to New Hampshire.
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Ah, indeed.
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♪ ambient music ♪
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[man] But Donald Trump,
who many, many people predicted
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was going to win
at the Iowa caucuses...
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It looks like a lot of people
did switch their vote,
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uh, people who were
supporting, uh, Donald Trump.
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♪
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Thank you.
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♪
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[Halperin] So Iowa ends
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and it's seven days of hell
in New Hampshire.
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The stakes are higher
than they are in Iowa.
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You have a chance to come back.
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If you don't do well in Iowa,
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you can come back
in New Hampshire.
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If you don't come back
in New Hampshire
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after failing in Iowa,
you're done, generally.
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- [camera shutters clicking]
- [indistinct chatter]
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- [woman] Mr. Trump?
- [Trump] Yes?
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Uh, I think that
we did really well.
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I mean, I ended up
coming in second.
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Uh, didn't devote
tremendous time to it.
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Didn't devote
tremendous money to it.
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[reporters all talking at once]
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[Trump] Yeah, Tom?
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Mr. Trump...
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[Trump] No, I don't think
I feel any pressure.
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[reporters all talking at once]
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Mark. Go ahead.
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Would you be comfortable,
as you seem to be
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finishing second in Iowa,
finishing second here?
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I'd love to finish first.
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Uh, you know, again,
it would still not be
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horrible because
you're competing against
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a lot of very talented people
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that have been politicians
all their lives.
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I've been a politician
for six months.
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Okay.
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[Halperin] Normally when
Trump goes after the press,
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he'd be vicious.
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He'd say "You people
are morons, you're idiots."
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And, you know, I think his tone
was a little different,
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a little bit more subdued.
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[camera shutters clicking]
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Okay.
Thank you, everybody.
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[indistinct chatter]
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The media,
the worst people ever!
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[crowd cheering]
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The worst.
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We finished number two.
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The headlines were,
"Trump Comes in Second.
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He's Humiliated!"
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[crowd booing]
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Some are smart, but some of
these guys are dumb as a rock.
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- And I mean...
- [laughter]
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♪ soft suspenseful music ♪
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[Halperin] He's doubling down
on the same style,
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the same type of speech,
the same applause lines.
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As the old saying goes,
insanity
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is doing the same thing
over and over
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and expecting
a different result.
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I'm not saying Trump's insane,
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but they don't see a lot
of nimble changes here,
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at least in this event.
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Um, Trump is-is
a little bit stubborn.
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Uh, but also,
he's a first-time candidate.
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So it's possible that he's
being strategically firm
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in a way that's
gonna reward him,
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but it's also possible
he's just not cut out for this.
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[bell tolls]
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[man] And the question here is
as simple as it is startling:
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can Donald Trump hold a lead
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after a seeing a 20-point lead
cut in half?
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This state is famous for, uh,
surprising everybody.
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This is where the so-called
establishment lane
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is most crowded.
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The race is officially
up for grabs.
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Anyone can still be--
anyone can still win.
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[man over speaker]
Please welcome
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the next president
of the United States,
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Jeb Bush.
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- [applause]
- [scattered cheers]
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[man over speaker]
The honorable Chris Christie.
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[man over speaker] The next
generation of America,
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Marco Rubio.
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[man] The crowded field
of candidates, including
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current and former governors
and several sitting senators,
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hailed as the best group
of GOP presidential hopefuls
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in a generation at least.
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[woman] So I'd like to
introduce John Kasich.
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[applause]
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You know, the problems
that we have in this country
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are easy to solve.
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You know what it takes?
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People of goodwill.
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[Rubio] When I decided
to run for president,
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people came forward
and said, "You can't run.
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You have to wait your turn."
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I said, "Wait for what?"
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This is no time to just promote
the next person in line,
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because if we get
this election wrong,
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there may be
no turning back for America.
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Here we are, six days
from the New Hampshire primary.
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And if you listen to the media,
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the only choices
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are two first-term
United States senators
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and that other guy
who's only experience
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is sitting in a fake boardroom
in New York City,
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looking into a camera
and saying, "You're fired."
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[laughter]
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[Miller] Uh, this is just
a big issue for Hugh,
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uh, whose radio show
we're doing, Hugh Hewitt.
476
00:18:31,644 --> 00:18:34,845
He thinks your brother
should, um,
477
00:18:34,864 --> 00:18:36,814
come out stronger
against Trump.
478
00:18:36,849 --> 00:18:39,033
So I-I imagine
he's gonna offer that advice--
479
00:18:39,068 --> 00:18:41,119
Hugh Hewitt should come out
stronger against Trump.
480
00:18:41,154 --> 00:18:42,236
That's my--
gonna be my response.
481
00:18:42,288 --> 00:18:43,871
Good feedback.
482
00:18:43,907 --> 00:18:45,356
Since I'm the only guy
that goes after Trump
483
00:18:45,375 --> 00:18:47,125
on the entire planet,
484
00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:49,127
I'm gonna take advice
from someone who doesn't?
485
00:18:49,162 --> 00:18:51,045
- That is...
- I think that's a good answer.
486
00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:52,863
[Hewitt] Governor Bush,
it's great to have you back.
487
00:18:52,882 --> 00:18:54,132
Great to be with you, Hugh.
488
00:18:59,806 --> 00:19:01,639
Donald Trump
will not be the nominee.
489
00:19:04,811 --> 00:19:05,643
Yeah.
490
00:19:07,597 --> 00:19:08,930
Donald Trump's not
gonna be the nominee.
491
00:19:08,982 --> 00:19:11,048
So you asked it twice
and I answered it twice.
492
00:19:11,067 --> 00:19:14,352
♪ tense tone ♪
493
00:19:14,387 --> 00:19:17,405
[crowd cheering and whistling]
494
00:19:23,663 --> 00:19:25,329
[Heilemann] A lot of campaigns
have a lot of incentive
495
00:19:25,365 --> 00:19:27,081
to talk down Trump
and try to get, you know,
496
00:19:27,116 --> 00:19:29,750
the idea out there that, like,
he might be falling apart.
497
00:19:29,786 --> 00:19:31,586
Um,
498
00:19:31,621 --> 00:19:33,087
it could be completely true.
499
00:19:33,122 --> 00:19:34,422
It could turn out
to be completely false.
500
00:19:34,457 --> 00:19:36,007
It's hard to know.
501
00:19:38,678 --> 00:19:40,461
Did you--John, did you get in?
Did you get in?
502
00:19:40,513 --> 00:19:42,263
No, they barred me
from your event.
503
00:19:42,298 --> 00:19:43,747
- Whatever. You couldn't get in?
- I couldn't get in.
504
00:19:43,766 --> 00:19:44,765
I made my best speech.
You couldn't get in.
505
00:19:44,801 --> 00:19:46,100
Your best speech?
506
00:19:46,135 --> 00:19:47,468
That-that was a speech
that was so good...
507
00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:48,970
A speech for the ages.
I watched it.
508
00:19:49,022 --> 00:19:50,588
Everybody loved it.
And you couldn't get in.
509
00:19:50,607 --> 00:19:52,139
I couldn't get in.
I-I showed up too late.
510
00:19:52,192 --> 00:19:53,924
- It's too bad.
- Um, how-how you doing?
511
00:19:53,943 --> 00:19:55,092
- I think we're doing good.
- You're doing well?
512
00:19:55,111 --> 00:19:56,611
I think we're doing
really good.
513
00:19:56,646 --> 00:19:57,945
Now, I want to tell you
that one of the things
514
00:19:57,981 --> 00:19:59,480
that we've observed
in the last 24 hours
515
00:19:59,532 --> 00:20:00,865
is that basically
every Republican candidate,
516
00:20:00,900 --> 00:20:02,483
every Republican campaign,
517
00:20:02,535 --> 00:20:05,102
is whispering to reporters
about a Trump collapse.
518
00:20:05,121 --> 00:20:06,988
- What do you think about that?
- I think it doesn't happen.
519
00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:08,289
Have a good time, John.
Thank you.
520
00:20:08,324 --> 00:20:10,074
[man] Donald,
you're a fine gentleman.
521
00:20:10,109 --> 00:20:11,876
Seems like--didn't seem
that happy with it.
522
00:20:11,911 --> 00:20:13,211
Didn't seem that happy
to be asked.
523
00:20:13,246 --> 00:20:14,128
I thought I would
give him an opportunity
524
00:20:14,163 --> 00:20:15,613
to just knock it down.
525
00:20:15,632 --> 00:20:18,082
- [person clapping]
- [man] Donald Trump!
526
00:20:18,117 --> 00:20:21,135
[cheers and applause]
527
00:20:26,392 --> 00:20:28,509
[Heilemann] Oh, he looks
really pissed at me, though.
528
00:20:28,561 --> 00:20:30,144
[woman] All the way.
529
00:20:30,179 --> 00:20:31,562
[dog barking distantly]
530
00:20:31,598 --> 00:20:34,815
- [person clapping]
- [man] Thank you.
531
00:20:34,851 --> 00:20:37,902
He remains highly confident,
apparently.
532
00:20:37,937 --> 00:20:40,905
♪ atmospheric music ♪
533
00:20:40,940 --> 00:20:43,691
♪
534
00:20:43,743 --> 00:20:45,476
[crowd cheering]
535
00:20:45,495 --> 00:20:48,079
[Trump] Oh, wow!
Wow!
536
00:20:48,114 --> 00:20:50,865
[Blitzer] CNN projects
that Donald Trump will be
537
00:20:50,917 --> 00:20:53,534
the winner of the New Hampshire
Republican primary.
538
00:20:53,586 --> 00:20:55,036
[man] It's astounding.
539
00:20:55,088 --> 00:20:56,921
It is a great night
for Donald Trump
540
00:20:56,956 --> 00:21:00,207
and a horrible night for
the Republican establishment.
541
00:21:00,260 --> 00:21:03,044
Melania, she said
right from the beginning,
542
00:21:03,096 --> 00:21:06,714
"You know if you run,
you know you're going to win."
543
00:21:06,766 --> 00:21:09,517
And she said that
from day one.
544
00:21:09,552 --> 00:21:11,686
So, Melania, thank you, honey.
Thank you.
545
00:21:11,721 --> 00:21:13,604
♪
546
00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:17,475
And, Don and Vanessa,
thank you so much.
547
00:21:17,510 --> 00:21:19,277
[woman] We love you, Trump!
548
00:21:19,312 --> 00:21:21,512
And Ivanka, she was out,
she made seven stops today
549
00:21:21,531 --> 00:21:23,064
at the polling areas.
550
00:21:23,116 --> 00:21:24,565
[crowd cheering and whistling]
551
00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:30,521
♪ brooding music ♪
552
00:21:30,540 --> 00:21:32,123
♪
553
00:21:32,158 --> 00:21:33,324
man] Seven twenty-four, roger.
554
00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:35,042
Try to maintain 2,000.
555
00:21:35,078 --> 00:21:36,544
[pilot] Set to maintain 2,000.
556
00:21:36,579 --> 00:21:38,462
[Cruz on TV]
...taking on Washington
557
00:21:38,498 --> 00:21:40,548
and corporate welfare.
558
00:21:40,583 --> 00:21:43,250
[man] All right, one over here.
One, two.
559
00:21:43,303 --> 00:21:44,635
Here we go, big three.
560
00:21:44,671 --> 00:21:46,370
[camera shutter clicks]
561
00:21:46,389 --> 00:21:47,471
- [man] thank you.
- [Trump] Let's go and relax.
562
00:21:47,507 --> 00:21:48,306
[Vanessa] Yes.
563
00:21:48,341 --> 00:21:49,307
[tone dings]
564
00:21:49,342 --> 00:21:54,312
♪
565
00:21:54,347 --> 00:21:56,147
[Halperin] You've done
a lot in your life.
566
00:21:56,182 --> 00:21:59,233
Where does winning
the New Hampshire primary rank?
567
00:21:59,268 --> 00:22:01,068
Well, it's an interesting thing.
568
00:22:01,104 --> 00:22:03,821
I've had one of the most
successful television shows.
569
00:22:03,856 --> 00:22:05,773
I've had The Art of the Deal
and many other books
570
00:22:05,825 --> 00:22:07,441
that have been
number one best sellers.
571
00:22:07,493 --> 00:22:08,943
And I've built a great company.
572
00:22:08,995 --> 00:22:10,745
But I would have to say
that there's nev--
573
00:22:10,780 --> 00:22:12,229
I've never seen
anything like this.
574
00:22:12,248 --> 00:22:14,031
Stories all over the world.
575
00:22:14,066 --> 00:22:16,250
Friends of mine calling me
from Paris, from London,
576
00:22:16,285 --> 00:22:18,669
from Africa,
from all over the world
577
00:22:18,705 --> 00:22:21,589
saying that it's the most
exciting thing we've ever seen.
578
00:22:21,624 --> 00:22:23,090
[Halperin] There's a show
579
00:22:23,126 --> 00:22:24,508
on Showtime now
about this election.
580
00:22:24,544 --> 00:22:26,010
Does that surprise you
that there's
581
00:22:26,045 --> 00:22:27,244
that much interest
in this election?
582
00:22:27,263 --> 00:22:28,879
Oh, you're gonna do well
off of me.
583
00:22:28,914 --> 00:22:30,348
- [Halperin chuckles]
- I wonder, if I weren't around,
584
00:22:30,383 --> 00:22:32,266
how much you would've done.
585
00:22:32,301 --> 00:22:35,269
♪ pensive music ♪
586
00:22:35,304 --> 00:22:37,188
[Halperin] And this is where
Trump loves to be.
587
00:22:37,223 --> 00:22:39,757
Loves to be on the plane,
loves watching TV
588
00:22:39,776 --> 00:22:42,109
and seeing what people
are saying about him.
589
00:22:42,145 --> 00:22:43,644
You're seeing Donald Trump
590
00:22:43,696 --> 00:22:44,895
winning in every one
of these regions.
591
00:22:44,930 --> 00:22:46,397
Donald Trump at--right now,
592
00:22:46,432 --> 00:22:49,483
has a 19-point--
percentage point--victory.
593
00:22:49,535 --> 00:22:51,318
[woman on TV]
That's how mad voters are,
594
00:22:51,371 --> 00:22:52,720
and that's how much
they want change.
595
00:23:00,747 --> 00:23:02,279
One thing with me,
they know me.
596
00:23:02,298 --> 00:23:03,798
They've known me
for a long time.
597
00:23:03,833 --> 00:23:06,801
I sort of grew up
with the American people.
598
00:23:06,836 --> 00:23:07,668
And...
599
00:23:10,173 --> 00:23:12,723
You add up Facebook, Twitter,
Instagram, all of the things,
600
00:23:12,759 --> 00:23:14,725
I guess I have
13, 14 million people.
601
00:23:19,732 --> 00:23:22,483
With me, all I have to do
is go bing, bing, bing
602
00:23:22,518 --> 00:23:23,984
and I get the word out.
603
00:23:34,697 --> 00:23:36,497
Historically,
I like running tables.
604
00:23:36,532 --> 00:23:37,998
So we'll see what happens.
605
00:23:38,034 --> 00:23:40,167
Hey, look, it's a long road,
606
00:23:40,203 --> 00:23:43,037
but it's a lot shorter
than it was
607
00:23:43,089 --> 00:23:44,488
two weeks ago.
608
00:23:44,507 --> 00:23:47,458
[indistinct radio chatter]
609
00:23:47,493 --> 00:23:50,494
♪ pensive music continues ♪
610
00:23:50,513 --> 00:23:55,466
♪
611
00:24:00,139 --> 00:24:02,440
[elevator beeps]
612
00:24:02,475 --> 00:24:06,026
♪ soft pensive music ♪
613
00:24:06,062 --> 00:24:09,029
[indistinct chatter]
614
00:24:09,065 --> 00:24:10,731
George, you want us
to switch, maybe?
615
00:24:10,783 --> 00:24:12,366
[Bernie Sanders] What is that?
I've never seen it before.
616
00:24:12,401 --> 00:24:14,902
[man] Sound recorder.
617
00:24:14,954 --> 00:24:16,787
[Heilemann] You and Donald Trump
are very different guys,
618
00:24:16,823 --> 00:24:19,573
but you're both--
it seems to me,
619
00:24:19,625 --> 00:24:22,359
some number of people
who like you
620
00:24:22,378 --> 00:24:23,911
and some number of people
who like him
621
00:24:23,963 --> 00:24:25,579
have a similar
kind of disposition,
622
00:24:25,631 --> 00:24:27,715
which is,
"The system is fucked up,
623
00:24:27,750 --> 00:24:29,250
and I want to see..."
624
00:24:29,302 --> 00:24:31,051
They allow you to say it
on this television network?
625
00:24:31,087 --> 00:24:32,870
[stammering] Well,
if they have to bleep me,
626
00:24:32,889 --> 00:24:34,221
- they'll bleep me.
- All right.
627
00:24:34,257 --> 00:24:35,723
Are you cognizant
of the notion that there are
628
00:24:35,758 --> 00:24:37,207
some number of people
out there in the world
629
00:24:37,226 --> 00:24:38,559
who are actually
sitting there saying,
630
00:24:38,594 --> 00:24:39,927
"Either Bernie Sanders
or Donald Trump.
631
00:24:39,979 --> 00:24:41,312
I don't know.
One or the other"?
632
00:24:41,347 --> 00:24:43,097
There are many.
We know that, yes, absolutely.
633
00:24:43,149 --> 00:24:44,899
- To me...
- Given how different you are,
634
00:24:44,934 --> 00:24:46,484
you would think it would be
impossible for that to exist.
635
00:24:46,519 --> 00:24:48,218
But I think, you see,
what a lot of the media
636
00:24:48,237 --> 00:24:49,937
and the establishment folks
637
00:24:49,989 --> 00:24:53,908
who sit around in D.C. and talk
to each other don't know--
638
00:24:53,943 --> 00:24:55,576
'cause they make a lot of money
639
00:24:55,611 --> 00:24:57,411
and they-they're hanging around
the cocktail parties...
640
00:24:57,446 --> 00:24:58,996
♪ pensive music ♪
641
00:24:59,031 --> 00:25:00,614
[Sanders] People
in this country are hurting.
People are angry.
642
00:25:00,666 --> 00:25:03,066
Got husbands and wives
struggling economically.
643
00:25:03,085 --> 00:25:06,487
They are angry, and they have
a reason to be angry.
644
00:25:06,522 --> 00:25:08,255
And what we are trying
to do is say,
645
00:25:08,291 --> 00:25:09,924
"All right, if you're angry,
646
00:25:09,959 --> 00:25:12,126
let's get angry
at the right people.
647
00:25:12,161 --> 00:25:14,795
Don't get angry
at your Latino friends
648
00:25:14,847 --> 00:25:16,246
or Muslims.
649
00:25:16,265 --> 00:25:18,999
Get angry at the people
who caused the problem."
650
00:25:19,035 --> 00:25:20,918
I consider him to be
651
00:25:20,937 --> 00:25:24,355
a very dangerous human being
652
00:25:24,390 --> 00:25:27,925
who is doing enormous harm
to this country.
653
00:25:27,944 --> 00:25:31,445
And also, as you have
heard me say once or twice,
654
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:34,031
um, you know, I think
we need a media
655
00:25:34,066 --> 00:25:36,617
that allows us to focus
on the real issues
656
00:25:36,652 --> 00:25:38,319
facing the American people,
657
00:25:38,371 --> 00:25:42,122
rather than looking
at campaigns as a sport
658
00:25:42,158 --> 00:25:45,209
or as a soap opera.
659
00:25:45,244 --> 00:25:47,611
- [tires screech]
- Whoo!
660
00:25:47,630 --> 00:25:50,047
♪ rousing music ♪
661
00:25:50,082 --> 00:25:52,216
[cheering]
662
00:25:52,251 --> 00:25:55,953
♪
663
00:25:55,972 --> 00:25:57,721
Donald Trump,
he's an outsider.
664
00:25:57,757 --> 00:25:59,807
I read his book.
665
00:25:59,842 --> 00:26:01,976
And I just like everything
he's got to say.
666
00:26:02,011 --> 00:26:03,961
He-he's smart.
He knows what he's doing.
667
00:26:03,980 --> 00:26:07,147
You know, like he says,
we need to win.
668
00:26:07,183 --> 00:26:09,483
When ev--go to Walmart,
everything you see,
669
00:26:09,518 --> 00:26:12,069
made in China,
everything.
670
00:26:12,104 --> 00:26:14,188
Well, that--
how's that helping us?
671
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:16,323
How's that helping us?
It's not.
672
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:17,441
[man] Whoo!
673
00:26:17,476 --> 00:26:19,159
- Whoo!
- Whoo!
674
00:26:19,195 --> 00:26:20,661
[man] He's entertaining.
He's fun to watch.
675
00:26:20,696 --> 00:26:22,529
Like, you talk
to most people about
676
00:26:22,582 --> 00:26:24,448
watch a rally or anything,
and they're just like, "Yeah."
677
00:26:24,483 --> 00:26:26,450
But you hear Donald Trump's
coming to Clemson...
678
00:26:26,485 --> 00:26:27,501
- [woman] Yeah.
- ...everybody goes nuts.
679
00:26:27,536 --> 00:26:30,337
[cheering]
680
00:26:30,373 --> 00:26:33,007
Trump creates an energy
around the election
681
00:26:33,042 --> 00:26:35,092
that nobody's ever done, like,
in the history of the election.
682
00:26:35,127 --> 00:26:37,211
I mean, every day, you see
something on-on Twitter
683
00:26:37,263 --> 00:26:38,712
about Donald Trump
tweeting at somebody.
684
00:26:38,764 --> 00:26:40,381
nd, I mean,
e grew up with The Apprentice.
685
00:26:40,433 --> 00:26:42,099
I mean, I remember
watching that TV show.
686
00:26:42,134 --> 00:26:43,667
Like, that's when he had me,
'cause, you know,
687
00:26:43,686 --> 00:26:45,769
trying to be CEO one day.
688
00:26:45,805 --> 00:26:47,271
So, you know,
689
00:26:47,306 --> 00:26:48,672
that's why I have
respect for him.
690
00:26:48,691 --> 00:26:49,607
He's awesome.
691
00:26:49,642 --> 00:26:50,808
[crowd cheering]
692
00:26:50,843 --> 00:26:54,061
[chanting]
693
00:26:54,113 --> 00:26:55,029
[crowd booing]
694
00:26:55,064 --> 00:26:57,014
[Trump] Ah, get him out.
695
00:26:57,033 --> 00:26:58,732
I love the old days.
696
00:26:58,784 --> 00:27:00,451
You know what they used to do
to guys like that?
697
00:27:00,486 --> 00:27:03,037
They'd be carried out
on a stretcher, folks.
698
00:27:03,072 --> 00:27:05,039
I'd like to punch him
in the face, I'll tell ya.
699
00:27:05,074 --> 00:27:06,957
[crowd cheering]
700
00:27:06,993 --> 00:27:09,910
[man] Donald Trump has crossed
the line in a number of places,
701
00:27:09,962 --> 00:27:11,912
but it doesn't seem
to have damaged him.
702
00:27:11,964 --> 00:27:15,049
[woman] You know, I think
he's been Teflon so far.
703
00:27:15,084 --> 00:27:16,634
[Trump] You have to brand
people a certain way
704
00:27:16,669 --> 00:27:18,135
when they're your opponents.
705
00:27:18,170 --> 00:27:21,422
Like "liddle."
L-I-D-D-L-E, liddle.
706
00:27:21,474 --> 00:27:24,058
Liddle, liddle Marco.
707
00:27:24,093 --> 00:27:26,393
I have never, ever met a person
708
00:27:26,429 --> 00:27:29,596
that lies more than Ted Cruz.
709
00:27:29,649 --> 00:27:31,882
I think he's a basket case.
710
00:27:31,901 --> 00:27:35,519
Can you imagine Jeb
negotiating with China?
711
00:27:35,554 --> 00:27:37,638
- [tweet chirping]
- Can you imagine?
712
00:27:37,673 --> 00:27:39,406
[woman] Donald Trump's picking
on all these other contenders
713
00:27:39,442 --> 00:27:41,775
and hoping to take them down
one by one.
714
00:27:41,827 --> 00:27:43,226
[applause]
715
00:27:43,245 --> 00:27:46,997
♪ somber brooding music ♪
716
00:27:47,033 --> 00:27:50,200
[Jeb Bush] ...nation safer
and stronger and freer.
717
00:27:50,236 --> 00:27:52,286
I firmly believe
the American people must
718
00:27:52,321 --> 00:27:54,488
entrust this office
to someone
719
00:27:54,523 --> 00:27:57,257
who understands that
whoever holds it is a servant,
720
00:27:57,293 --> 00:27:59,376
not the master.
721
00:27:59,411 --> 00:28:01,378
Someone who will commit
to that service
722
00:28:01,413 --> 00:28:03,430
with honor and decency.
723
00:28:03,466 --> 00:28:06,467
[crowd chanting]
Trump! Trump! Trump!
724
00:28:08,804 --> 00:28:10,804
[Rose] Try to get
to the raw, real stuff.
725
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:12,306
[Halperin]
Interesting characters doing
726
00:28:12,341 --> 00:28:14,041
interesting things
with high stakes.
727
00:28:14,076 --> 00:28:15,442
That's what we have every night
here at this table.
728
00:28:15,478 --> 00:28:16,276
- That's correct.
- Yeah.
729
00:28:16,312 --> 00:28:18,028
[chuckling]
730
00:28:18,064 --> 00:28:19,763
One take.
731
00:28:19,782 --> 00:28:20,931
And six take.
732
00:28:20,950 --> 00:28:22,616
We'll be right back.
733
00:28:22,651 --> 00:28:24,601
[man] Um, John, could you
scooch to your, uh, left?
734
00:28:24,620 --> 00:28:26,203
Here, hold this for me.
735
00:28:26,238 --> 00:28:27,771
- Here's what makes you happy?
- [man] Yes.
736
00:28:27,790 --> 00:28:29,123
Do you want me further left
or is this okay?
737
00:28:29,158 --> 00:28:30,708
[man] Uh, yeah,
further's better.
738
00:28:30,743 --> 00:28:32,543
You guys are actually in
the shot back there in the wide.
739
00:28:32,578 --> 00:28:34,328
Patrick?
740
00:28:34,380 --> 00:28:35,629
[Heilemann] Someone who could
destroy the foundation...
741
00:28:35,664 --> 00:28:37,297
[man] Can you still
get your shot?
742
00:28:37,333 --> 00:28:40,384
[Halperin] The Republican Party
is in full freak-out mode.
743
00:28:40,419 --> 00:28:42,302
You're only seeing
two percent of it now.
744
00:28:42,338 --> 00:28:44,722
Ninety-eight percent of it's
happening behind the scenes.
745
00:28:44,757 --> 00:28:47,457
Trump sweeps on Super Tuesday,
you're gonna see
746
00:28:47,476 --> 00:28:49,643
a freak-out unparalleled.
in our careers. Unparalleled.
747
00:28:49,678 --> 00:28:53,313
And the 98% of what's happening
behind the scenes is what?
748
00:28:53,349 --> 00:28:56,600
Emails, phone calls,
meetings, discussions,
749
00:28:56,635 --> 00:28:59,737
uh, agonizing
at home alone at night
750
00:28:59,772 --> 00:29:01,922
about what this will mean
for the Republican brand,
751
00:29:01,957 --> 00:29:03,824
the Republicans majorities
in Congress...
752
00:29:03,859 --> 00:29:05,659
- And the future of the party!
- And the future of the party.
753
00:29:05,694 --> 00:29:08,195
What it means to be a Republican
in the 21st century.
754
00:29:08,230 --> 00:29:09,696
[McKinnon] Yeah, they feel like
the house has been
755
00:29:09,732 --> 00:29:11,565
burned down to its foundation.
756
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,918
Has the establishment simply
been too little, too late?
757
00:29:14,954 --> 00:29:18,255
Did they slowly wake up
to Donald Trump and say,
758
00:29:18,290 --> 00:29:21,091
"Oh, my God,
he could be our nominee"?
759
00:29:21,127 --> 00:29:23,043
[wind whooshing]
760
00:29:23,095 --> 00:29:26,046
♪ rousing dramatic music ♪
761
00:29:26,098 --> 00:29:31,051
♪
762
00:29:31,086 --> 00:29:33,020
[woman] A huge night
for Donald Trump,
763
00:29:33,055 --> 00:29:34,555
winning seven states.
764
00:29:34,607 --> 00:29:37,441
[man] Big wins
from Alabama to Vermont.
765
00:29:37,476 --> 00:29:40,394
[woman] Does this now
make him unstoppable?
766
00:29:40,446 --> 00:29:41,779
[cheers and applause]
767
00:29:41,814 --> 00:29:43,346
Thank you very much.
Thank you.
768
00:29:43,365 --> 00:29:44,665
♪
769
00:29:44,700 --> 00:29:47,618
Donald Trump's victory
could mean
770
00:29:47,653 --> 00:29:50,353
the end of the Republican Party
as we know it.
771
00:29:50,372 --> 00:29:53,123
♪
772
00:29:53,159 --> 00:29:54,808
[bird squawking]
773
00:29:56,378 --> 00:29:57,578
omney] Hi, how you guys doing?
774
00:29:57,613 --> 00:29:59,246
[woman] Hi. Good, how are you?
775
00:29:59,281 --> 00:30:00,447
- [Romney] Good. Hi.
- [man] How are you?
776
00:30:00,483 --> 00:30:01,315
[Romney] Good. How are you?
777
00:30:01,350 --> 00:30:02,633
Hi, good to meet you.
778
00:30:02,668 --> 00:30:03,700
- Good to meet you.
- Hi. Thanks.
779
00:30:03,719 --> 00:30:05,302
Hey, guys, how you doing?
780
00:30:05,337 --> 00:30:06,804
Good to see you.
Hi, how are you?
781
00:30:06,839 --> 00:30:07,971
- [man] How you doing?
- [Romney] Good.
782
00:30:08,007 --> 00:30:09,807
Good to see you.
Hi.
783
00:30:09,842 --> 00:30:12,309
I'm afraid there's probably
not gonna be enough room
784
00:30:12,344 --> 00:30:13,811
- for this crew here.
- Don't say that.
785
00:30:13,846 --> 00:30:15,729
- [groaning]
- [Romney] I apologize.
786
00:30:15,764 --> 00:30:17,147
[man over speaker] Will you
please join me in welcoming
787
00:30:17,183 --> 00:30:18,732
Governor Mitt Romney.
788
00:30:18,767 --> 00:30:22,719
[cheers and applause]
789
00:30:22,738 --> 00:30:24,771
[Romney] Thank you.
790
00:30:24,824 --> 00:30:26,890
I'm not here to announce
my candidacy for office.
791
00:30:26,909 --> 00:30:28,542
[scattered boos]
792
00:30:28,577 --> 00:30:31,895
And I'm not going to endorse
a candidate today.
793
00:30:31,914 --> 00:30:34,164
Instead I'd like
to offer my perspective
794
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:36,416
on the nominating process
in my party.
795
00:30:36,452 --> 00:30:38,568
- [laughs]
- Back in 19...
796
00:30:38,587 --> 00:30:40,170
That's Romney-speak for
797
00:30:40,206 --> 00:30:42,039
"I'm about to beat
the living shit out of someone."
798
00:30:42,074 --> 00:30:44,074
[Romney] And let me
put it very plainly.
799
00:30:44,093 --> 00:30:46,760
Donald Trump is a phony,
a fraud.
800
00:30:46,795 --> 00:30:48,595
His promises are as worthless
801
00:30:48,631 --> 00:30:50,848
as a degree
from Trump University.
802
00:30:50,883 --> 00:30:54,134
[cheers and applause]
803
00:30:54,186 --> 00:30:56,753
eilemann] I've been doing this
r, you know, 25 years.
804
00:30:56,772 --> 00:30:59,523
The idea of a national
political party's
805
00:30:59,558 --> 00:31:02,609
most recent nominee
to stand up and give a speech
806
00:31:02,645 --> 00:31:05,145
devoted to attacking
the front-runner
807
00:31:05,197 --> 00:31:07,781
of the current election
is off the hook.
808
00:31:07,816 --> 00:31:10,317
He inherited his business.
He didn't create it.
809
00:31:10,369 --> 00:31:12,319
Dishonesty, the bullying,
810
00:31:12,371 --> 00:31:15,656
the absurd
third grade theatrics.
811
00:31:15,708 --> 00:31:16,957
He's playing the members
812
00:31:16,992 --> 00:31:18,542
of the American public
for suckers.
813
00:31:18,577 --> 00:31:20,210
He gets a free ride
to the White House,
814
00:31:20,246 --> 00:31:22,045
and all we get
is a lousy hat.
815
00:31:22,081 --> 00:31:23,997
♪ brooding dramatic music ♪
816
00:31:24,049 --> 00:31:26,283
Romney] I understand the anger
Americans feel today.
817
00:31:26,302 --> 00:31:28,502
We want to bring America
back to the people!
818
00:31:28,554 --> 00:31:30,837
[Romney] Mr. Trump
is directing our anger
819
00:31:30,890 --> 00:31:33,557
for less than noble purposes.
820
00:31:33,592 --> 00:31:36,226
This is the very brand
of anger
821
00:31:36,262 --> 00:31:39,263
that has led other nations
into the abyss.
822
00:31:39,298 --> 00:31:43,850
John Adams wrote this:
823
00:31:43,903 --> 00:31:44,968
"Remember,
824
00:31:44,987 --> 00:31:48,889
democracy never lasts long.
825
00:31:48,924 --> 00:31:52,809
There never was
a democracy yet
826
00:31:52,828 --> 00:31:55,913
that did not
commit suicide."
827
00:31:55,948 --> 00:31:57,814
[Heilemann] The Republican
establishment
828
00:31:57,833 --> 00:31:59,666
and the candidates who
represented the establishment,
829
00:31:59,702 --> 00:32:01,335
they've looked up
and they've said,
830
00:32:01,370 --> 00:32:02,669
"Oh, my God,
this is really, actually,
831
00:32:02,705 --> 00:32:04,338
potentially happening."
832
00:32:04,373 --> 00:32:05,872
Now they've all kind of
come to the realization
833
00:32:05,925 --> 00:32:07,324
that, "Oh, shit,
we should've tried
834
00:32:07,343 --> 00:32:08,959
to take this guy out
months ago.
835
00:32:08,994 --> 00:32:11,545
It might be too late.
But it might not be too late."
836
00:32:11,597 --> 00:32:13,847
Given the current
delegate selection process,
837
00:32:13,882 --> 00:32:16,883
that means that I vote
for Marco Rubio in Florida
838
00:32:16,936 --> 00:32:20,053
and for John Kasich in Ohio
and for Ted Cruz
839
00:32:20,105 --> 00:32:22,022
or whichever one
of the other two contenders
840
00:32:22,057 --> 00:32:25,692
has the best chance of beating
Mr. Trump in a given state.
841
00:32:25,728 --> 00:32:27,945
The Stop Trump forces
basically have two weeks.
842
00:32:27,980 --> 00:32:31,198
They have from now into--
until Ohio and Florida.
843
00:32:31,233 --> 00:32:33,116
If they can't stop him
between now and then,
844
00:32:33,152 --> 00:32:34,284
they can't stop him.
845
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:36,620
♪ ambient music ♪
846
00:32:36,655 --> 00:32:39,522
At the end of the day,
it's getting down
847
00:32:39,541 --> 00:32:41,541
to kind of Florida and Ohio.
848
00:32:41,577 --> 00:32:43,360
[man] Do you support
this idea that
849
00:32:43,379 --> 00:32:46,246
to stop Trump, the best
course of action for voters
850
00:32:46,298 --> 00:32:49,032
is pick whichever candidate
is strongest in any state,
851
00:32:49,051 --> 00:32:50,384
just from a delegate standpoint?
852
00:32:50,419 --> 00:32:52,002
I mean, that was
sort of Mitt Romney's...
853
00:32:52,037 --> 00:32:53,870
What kind of a question
is that? A good question.
854
00:32:53,889 --> 00:32:55,305
- Tricky question, okay.
- [chuckling]
855
00:32:55,341 --> 00:32:56,757
But I gave you the answer.
856
00:32:56,809 --> 00:32:59,259
I'm gonna spend
a lot of time in Ohio
857
00:32:59,311 --> 00:33:02,479
and I'll bet Mr. Rubio's gonna
spend a lot of time in Florida.
858
00:33:02,514 --> 00:33:04,181
- That's it.
- [Rubio] A voter in Ohio
859
00:33:04,216 --> 00:33:06,183
that doesn't want
Donald Trump to win Ohio
860
00:33:06,218 --> 00:33:07,818
may very well conclude
861
00:33:07,853 --> 00:33:09,569
that the best way
to stop him in Ohio
862
00:33:09,605 --> 00:33:11,571
is to vote for John Kasich,
and I respect that.
863
00:33:11,607 --> 00:33:13,106
The only one
who has a chance to beat
864
00:33:13,158 --> 00:33:15,058
Donald Trump in Florida
is me.
865
00:33:15,077 --> 00:33:17,560
But if you want to stop
Donald Trump in Florida,
866
00:33:17,579 --> 00:33:19,946
any vote but a vote for me
is a vote for Donald Trump.
867
00:33:19,999 --> 00:33:21,581
All right, guys.
868
00:33:21,617 --> 00:33:23,250
[Cruz] You know,
there are a lot of people
869
00:33:23,285 --> 00:33:25,118
who like Marco Rubio,
who like John Kasich.
870
00:33:25,170 --> 00:33:27,287
They're both good, honorable
men whom I respect,
871
00:33:27,339 --> 00:33:29,756
but neither one of them
has any plausible path
872
00:33:29,792 --> 00:33:30,957
to the nomination.
873
00:33:31,010 --> 00:33:32,626
It's becoming abundantly clear,
874
00:33:32,678 --> 00:33:34,261
if you want to defeat
Donald Trump,
875
00:33:34,296 --> 00:33:36,430
our campaign is the only one
who can do it.
876
00:33:36,465 --> 00:33:37,597
All right, thank you, everyone.
877
00:33:37,633 --> 00:33:38,799
[reporters all talking at once]
878
00:33:38,851 --> 00:33:40,684
♪ pensive music ♪
879
00:33:40,719 --> 00:33:43,136
[police radio chatter]
880
00:33:43,188 --> 00:33:44,554
[crowd commotion]
881
00:33:44,589 --> 00:33:46,223
eilemann] It's chaos out here.
882
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:52,612
On a snowy debate night
in Detroit,
883
00:33:52,648 --> 00:33:55,765
madness takes its toll.
884
00:33:55,784 --> 00:33:59,736
♪
885
00:33:59,771 --> 00:34:02,322
They're trying to stop Trump.
So where will they stop him?
886
00:34:02,374 --> 00:34:04,041
Will they stop him
with TV ads?
887
00:34:04,076 --> 00:34:06,293
Will they stop him in, uh,
some caucuses on Saturday?
888
00:34:06,328 --> 00:34:07,961
Most likely,
they're gonna stop him
889
00:34:07,996 --> 00:34:09,112
in the Fox Theatre.
890
00:34:09,131 --> 00:34:11,381
♪
891
00:34:11,417 --> 00:34:13,500
[Heilemann] And the truth is,
there's no other time.
892
00:34:13,552 --> 00:34:15,252
This is the time,
this is the moment
893
00:34:15,287 --> 00:34:16,553
if they're gonna get it done.
894
00:34:16,588 --> 00:34:19,139
♪
895
00:34:19,174 --> 00:34:21,007
[cheers and whistling]
896
00:34:21,060 --> 00:34:23,810
[Baier] Senator Rubio,
three weeks ago, you said,
897
00:34:23,846 --> 00:34:26,430
"I don't do
the personal attacks
898
00:34:26,465 --> 00:34:29,015
because I think it's beneath
the office that I'm seeking
899
00:34:29,068 --> 00:34:31,902
but also because I don't
want to embarrass my kids."
900
00:34:31,937 --> 00:34:33,770
But in the past week,
901
00:34:33,805 --> 00:34:35,939
you've mocked
Mr. Trump's tan;
902
00:34:35,974 --> 00:34:37,941
you've made fun
of his spelling;
903
00:34:37,976 --> 00:34:40,744
you called him a con artist;
you suggested he wet himself.
904
00:34:40,779 --> 00:34:42,913
- [crowd booing]
- So what happened?
905
00:34:42,948 --> 00:34:44,915
[Rubio] Yeah, you know, Bret,
let me say something.
906
00:34:44,950 --> 00:34:46,750
If there's anyone
who's ever deserved
907
00:34:46,785 --> 00:34:48,702
to be attacked that way,
it's been Donald Trump
908
00:34:48,754 --> 00:34:51,037
for the way he's treated people
for the last campaign.
909
00:34:51,090 --> 00:34:53,590
- Rubio!
- Whoo!
910
00:34:53,625 --> 00:34:56,126
[Rubio] But let's be honest,
too, about all this.
911
00:34:56,161 --> 00:34:58,044
The media has given
these personal attacks
912
00:34:58,097 --> 00:34:59,596
an incredible amount
of coverage.
913
00:34:59,631 --> 00:35:01,298
Let's start talking again
about the issues
914
00:35:01,333 --> 00:35:03,266
that matter to this country.
915
00:35:03,302 --> 00:35:05,519
I'm ready to do that starting
right here, right now, tonight.
916
00:35:05,554 --> 00:35:07,270
[Baier]
Mr. Trump, your response?
917
00:35:07,306 --> 00:35:09,356
[crowd cheering]
918
00:35:09,391 --> 00:35:13,276
[Trump] I have to say this.
I have to say this.
919
00:35:13,312 --> 00:35:14,611
He hit my hands.
920
00:35:14,646 --> 00:35:16,446
He referred to my hands,
921
00:35:16,482 --> 00:35:19,065
if they're small,
something else must be small.
922
00:35:19,118 --> 00:35:20,867
I guarantee you,
there's no problem.
923
00:35:20,903 --> 00:35:21,868
I guarantee.
924
00:35:21,904 --> 00:35:24,905
[laughter and commotion]
925
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:36,716
[man] Good.
926
00:35:36,752 --> 00:35:38,135
Speed, speed.
927
00:35:38,170 --> 00:35:39,052
[text message whooshes]
928
00:35:39,087 --> 00:35:41,538
[Heilemann]
#DickDebate.
929
00:35:41,557 --> 00:35:43,173
And my guess is,
knowing America,
930
00:35:43,208 --> 00:35:45,091
they probably like Donald Trump
talking about his penis
931
00:35:45,144 --> 00:35:48,228
is my guess, given our--
given our country.
932
00:35:48,263 --> 00:35:50,647
[Halperin] If the establishment
looked at this debate
933
00:35:50,682 --> 00:35:53,266
as, like, one of the last
chances to derail Trump,
934
00:35:53,318 --> 00:35:56,269
they haven't stopped him yet.
935
00:35:56,321 --> 00:35:57,654
♪ brooding music ♪
936
00:35:57,689 --> 00:35:59,105
Heilemann] At a campaign rally
937
00:35:59,158 --> 00:36:00,824
in Fayetteville,
North Carolina,
938
00:36:00,859 --> 00:36:02,859
one of the Donald supporters
in the audience
939
00:36:02,894 --> 00:36:05,829
coldcocked a protester.
940
00:36:05,864 --> 00:36:09,833
[crowd commotion]
941
00:36:09,868 --> 00:36:11,618
[Halperin] These don't happen
at other candidates' events.
942
00:36:11,670 --> 00:36:13,420
[Heilemann]
The mood in these crowds
943
00:36:13,455 --> 00:36:15,738
is-is something
that I have not seen
944
00:36:15,757 --> 00:36:17,407
in doing this
for the past 25 years.
945
00:36:17,426 --> 00:36:18,842
I don't think
you've ever seen it
946
00:36:18,877 --> 00:36:20,460
at a presidential campaign
rally.
947
00:36:20,512 --> 00:36:21,845
And it happens at almost
every Trump event.
948
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:23,746
It's disturbing and weird.
949
00:36:23,765 --> 00:36:25,131
[Halperin] His attitude
and the campaign's attitude
950
00:36:25,184 --> 00:36:27,350
is way too cavalier about it.
951
00:36:27,386 --> 00:36:31,271
♪
952
00:36:31,306 --> 00:36:33,273
[woman] ...talked directly
to his supporters.
953
00:36:33,308 --> 00:36:35,575
Uh, so we're gonna find out
from Dr. Carson
954
00:36:35,611 --> 00:36:37,777
why he specifically
wanted to endorse Donald Trump.
955
00:36:37,813 --> 00:36:39,262
We did ask about...
956
00:36:39,281 --> 00:36:41,264
[Carson]
Uh, you know, the media,
957
00:36:41,283 --> 00:36:44,434
they're very skillful at
painting people certain ways.
958
00:36:44,453 --> 00:36:48,038
And it may not be
who that person is at all.
959
00:36:48,073 --> 00:36:50,457
They're two different
Donald Trumps.
960
00:36:50,492 --> 00:36:53,043
There's the one
you see on the stage,
961
00:36:53,078 --> 00:36:56,913
and there's the one
who's very cerebral,
962
00:36:56,948 --> 00:36:59,633
sits there, and considers
things very carefully.
963
00:36:59,668 --> 00:37:02,552
You can have a very good
conversation with him.
964
00:37:02,588 --> 00:37:05,305
And that's the Donald Trump
that you're gonna
965
00:37:05,340 --> 00:37:07,724
start seeing more and more of.
966
00:37:07,759 --> 00:37:09,392
[camera shutters clicking]
967
00:37:09,428 --> 00:37:10,644
[Trump] Okay. Yes?
968
00:37:15,567 --> 00:37:18,852
No, it's-it's-it's politics.
And it's fact.
969
00:37:18,904 --> 00:37:20,520
Let-let me just tell you.
970
00:37:20,572 --> 00:37:22,989
We've had some violent
people as protesters.
971
00:37:23,025 --> 00:37:25,075
You know, they're not just
people saying, "Oh..."
972
00:37:25,110 --> 00:37:26,693
These are people that punch.
973
00:37:26,745 --> 00:37:28,578
And-and the particular one
when I said,
974
00:37:28,614 --> 00:37:30,530
"I'd like to bang him,"
975
00:37:30,582 --> 00:37:33,166
he was swinging;
he was hitting people;
976
00:37:33,201 --> 00:37:35,252
and the audience hit back.
977
00:37:35,287 --> 00:37:37,837
And that's what we need
a little bit more of.
978
00:37:37,873 --> 00:37:39,706
[camera shutters clicking]
979
00:37:39,758 --> 00:37:41,091
All right, a couple of more
and we'll get out of here.
980
00:37:41,126 --> 00:37:42,208
[reporters all talking at once]
981
00:37:42,261 --> 00:37:43,493
♪ dark music ♪
982
00:37:43,512 --> 00:37:47,013
[indistinct commotion]
983
00:37:47,049 --> 00:37:50,350
[together] It is our duty
to fight for our freedom!
984
00:37:50,385 --> 00:37:52,252
Get 'em out.
Troublemakers.
985
00:37:52,287 --> 00:37:54,387
Get 'em out of here.
986
00:37:54,423 --> 00:37:56,890
Young, spoiled kids.
987
00:37:56,925 --> 00:37:58,391
[men chanting]
Stop the hate!
988
00:37:58,427 --> 00:37:59,592
Stop the hate!
989
00:37:59,628 --> 00:38:03,730
[indistinct commotion]
990
00:38:06,952 --> 00:38:09,569
♪ tense music ♪
991
00:38:09,604 --> 00:38:11,538
[crowd chanting]
We gonna be all right!
992
00:38:11,573 --> 00:38:13,740
We gonna be all right!
993
00:38:13,775 --> 00:38:15,208
[man] There are hundreds,
994
00:38:15,243 --> 00:38:19,112
maybe even thousands
of protesters on hand.
995
00:38:19,147 --> 00:38:23,683
[crowd chanting] We want Trump!
We want Trump! We want Trump!
996
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:25,685
[crowd chanting]
We gonna be all right!
997
00:38:25,721 --> 00:38:27,187
We gonna be all right!
998
00:38:27,222 --> 00:38:29,656
[man] The security
does not have a handle
999
00:38:29,691 --> 00:38:31,257
on the situation here.
1000
00:38:31,310 --> 00:38:32,542
[crowd chanting]
We gonna be all right!
1001
00:38:32,561 --> 00:38:34,711
We gonna be all right!
1002
00:38:34,730 --> 00:38:38,047
Tonight's rally will be
postponed until another day.
1003
00:38:38,066 --> 00:38:39,599
[crowd cheering]
1004
00:38:39,651 --> 00:38:41,151
Thank you very much
for your attendance.
1005
00:38:45,157 --> 00:38:47,056
Please go in peace.
1006
00:38:47,075 --> 00:38:49,776
[crowd chanting] We stopped
Trump! We stopped Trump!
1007
00:38:49,828 --> 00:38:52,779
♪ tense music builds ♪
1008
00:38:52,831 --> 00:38:56,583
♪
1009
00:38:56,618 --> 00:38:58,418
man] This is becoming violent.
1010
00:38:58,453 --> 00:39:00,837
There is pushing
and shoving going on
1011
00:39:00,872 --> 00:39:03,006
inside this arena.
1012
00:39:03,041 --> 00:39:04,958
It is total chaos.
1013
00:39:05,010 --> 00:39:07,577
♪
1014
00:39:07,596 --> 00:39:09,912
[helicopter rotors whirring]
1015
00:39:09,931 --> 00:39:12,182
[man] Donald Trump joins me.
I'm now live on the phone.
1016
00:39:12,217 --> 00:39:14,801
Mr. Trump, do you believe
that you have done anything
1017
00:39:14,853 --> 00:39:17,253
to create a tone
where this kind of violence
1018
00:39:17,272 --> 00:39:18,972
would be encouraged?
1019
00:39:22,561 --> 00:39:24,277
[man] Do you re--
you regret saying
1020
00:39:24,312 --> 00:39:26,646
any of those things
about punching protesters,
1021
00:39:26,698 --> 00:39:28,064
sending them out on stretchers?
1022
00:39:39,878 --> 00:39:42,829
[indistinct commotion]
1023
00:39:43,832 --> 00:39:46,933
♪ ambient music ♪
1024
00:39:46,968 --> 00:39:49,952
[crowd cheering]
1025
00:39:49,971 --> 00:39:52,922
♪
1026
00:39:52,957 --> 00:39:56,760
Donald Trump has created
a toxic environment.
1027
00:39:56,795 --> 00:39:58,628
[crowd chanting]
1028
00:39:58,647 --> 00:40:01,231
[Sanders] Donald Trump
has got to be loud and clear
1029
00:40:01,266 --> 00:40:05,402
and tell his supporters
that violence at rallies
1030
00:40:05,437 --> 00:40:08,154
is not what America is about
and to end it.
1031
00:40:08,190 --> 00:40:10,940
[crowd chanting]
1032
00:40:10,975 --> 00:40:13,743
[Cruz] And, you know, as we
campaign, we have protesters.
1033
00:40:13,779 --> 00:40:17,280
But unlike Donald Trump,
I don't ask people
1034
00:40:17,315 --> 00:40:20,500
in the audience
to punch them in the face.
1035
00:40:20,535 --> 00:40:23,169
Trump] I will call up Carrier,
he president.
1036
00:40:23,205 --> 00:40:25,672
'Cause I have to do it myself.
I know it's not--
1037
00:40:25,707 --> 00:40:28,708
[crowd commotion]
1038
00:40:34,683 --> 00:40:38,468
[crowd chanting]
Trump! Trump! Trump!
1039
00:40:40,939 --> 00:40:43,440
And to think I had
such an easy life.
1040
00:40:43,475 --> 00:40:45,391
What do I need this for, right?
1041
00:40:45,444 --> 00:40:49,112
[crowd chanting]
USA! USA! USA! USA!
1042
00:40:55,987 --> 00:40:57,120
[Rubio] Realize that,
win or lose,
1043
00:40:57,155 --> 00:40:58,955
there are people out there
1044
00:40:58,990 --> 00:41:01,708
that see what I'm doing
and follow it as a role model.
1045
00:41:01,743 --> 00:41:03,359
And I can't imagine an election
1046
00:41:03,378 --> 00:41:05,245
more consequential
than this one.
1047
00:41:05,297 --> 00:41:09,082
We're not just choosing
what political party wins.
1048
00:41:09,134 --> 00:41:10,550
We're choosing
what it means to be
1049
00:41:10,585 --> 00:41:12,752
a conservative
in the 21st century.
1050
00:41:12,804 --> 00:41:15,755
♪ somber music ♪
1051
00:41:15,807 --> 00:41:20,793
♪
1052
00:41:24,683 --> 00:41:28,568
Why wouldn't you dedicate
yourself to public service?
1053
00:41:28,603 --> 00:41:30,937
[Trump]
Somebody with strong views
1054
00:41:30,989 --> 00:41:32,572
and somebody
with the kind of views
1055
00:41:32,607 --> 00:41:34,574
that are maybe
a little bit unpopular--
1056
00:41:34,609 --> 00:41:37,410
which may be right
but may be unpopular--
1057
00:41:37,445 --> 00:41:39,329
wouldn't necessarily
have a chance
1058
00:41:39,364 --> 00:41:40,914
of getting elected
against somebody with
1059
00:41:40,949 --> 00:41:43,283
no great brain
but a big smile.
1060
00:41:43,335 --> 00:41:46,068
And that's a sad commentary
for the political process.
1061
00:41:46,087 --> 00:41:48,454
[King] Donald Trump
is sounding more like
1062
00:41:48,507 --> 00:41:51,007
a politician these days
than America's most
1063
00:41:51,042 --> 00:41:53,376
grandiose and controversial
builder.
1064
00:41:53,411 --> 00:41:55,128
They can presume
whatever they want.
1065
00:41:55,180 --> 00:41:56,846
I have no intention
of running for president,
1066
00:41:56,882 --> 00:41:58,014
but I'd like the point
to get across
1067
00:41:58,049 --> 00:41:59,599
that we have a great country,
1068
00:41:59,634 --> 00:42:01,518
but it's not gonna be
great for long
1069
00:42:01,553 --> 00:42:03,252
if we're gonna continue
to lose $200 billion a year.
1070
00:42:03,271 --> 00:42:05,021
You're gonna get
into the early '90s,
1071
00:42:05,056 --> 00:42:09,108
1990, 1991, and
the whole thing's gonna blow.
1072
00:42:09,144 --> 00:42:11,093
[Stone] Here's
the fundamental question.
1073
00:42:11,112 --> 00:42:13,029
Is the pop culture
in this country
1074
00:42:13,064 --> 00:42:15,565
more influential now
than its institutions?
1075
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:17,116
♪ brooding music ♪
1076
00:42:17,152 --> 00:42:18,618
Voters are fed up
with both parties.
1077
00:42:18,653 --> 00:42:20,269
They're looking
for new choices.
1078
00:42:20,288 --> 00:42:22,121
And if the American people
are presented
1079
00:42:22,157 --> 00:42:23,873
a viable, different choice,
1080
00:42:23,909 --> 00:42:25,458
they may just take it.
1081
00:42:25,493 --> 00:42:28,661
[dogs howling]
1082
00:42:28,713 --> 00:42:30,463
[Halperin] Mr. Stone?
1083
00:42:30,498 --> 00:42:32,081
Gentlemen, how are you?
Good to see you, sir.
1084
00:42:32,116 --> 00:42:33,449
- Nice to see you.
- This is an incredible place.
1085
00:42:33,468 --> 00:42:35,385
- Come on in.
- Let's go in.
1086
00:42:35,420 --> 00:42:37,136
- [Halperin] And what is this?
- [Stone] This is the bunker.
1087
00:42:37,172 --> 00:42:38,555
- [Halperin] The bunker.
- [Heilemann] The bunker.
1088
00:42:38,590 --> 00:42:40,473
[Stone] This is the--
this is the Stone Zone.
1089
00:42:40,508 --> 00:42:43,476
Uh...
oh, my God.
1090
00:42:43,511 --> 00:42:46,479
♪ lively pensive music ♪
1091
00:42:46,514 --> 00:42:50,850
♪
1092
00:42:50,902 --> 00:42:53,019
[Halperin] Roger Stone
is an American original.
1093
00:42:53,071 --> 00:42:55,137
In some ways,
larger than life.
1094
00:42:55,156 --> 00:42:56,839
[Heilemann] Larger than life
and darker than night.
1095
00:42:56,875 --> 00:42:58,207
[Stone] Nixon.
1096
00:42:58,243 --> 00:42:59,709
[Heilemann]
Seventy-two campaign.
1097
00:42:59,744 --> 00:43:01,077
You were involved
in that campaign.
1098
00:43:01,112 --> 00:43:02,662
[Stone] Yes, I was
the youngest member
1099
00:43:02,697 --> 00:43:03,830
of The Committee to Re-Elect
the President staff.
1100
00:43:03,865 --> 00:43:05,248
Right,
and-and, famously,
1101
00:43:05,283 --> 00:43:06,666
you were engaged
in various dirty tricks
1102
00:43:06,701 --> 00:43:07,984
or what people would call
dirty tricks--
1103
00:43:08,003 --> 00:43:10,486
Allegedly.
Alleg-allegedly.
1104
00:43:10,505 --> 00:43:13,172
[Halperin]
Roger was, for decades,
1105
00:43:13,208 --> 00:43:16,826
the equivalent of Karl Rove
1106
00:43:16,845 --> 00:43:18,761
to Donald Trump.
1107
00:43:18,797 --> 00:43:22,715
Trump brought in
Corey Lewandowski.
1108
00:43:22,767 --> 00:43:25,468
Corey and Roger clashed.
And...
1109
00:43:25,503 --> 00:43:28,571
[Heilemann] Roger was exiled.
[Halperin] Roger was exiled.
1110
00:43:28,607 --> 00:43:29,656
[Halperin] May I pick this up?
Is that all right?
1111
00:43:29,691 --> 00:43:31,591
[Stone] Yes, you certainly may.
1112
00:43:31,626 --> 00:43:32,759
[Halperin] Um, it says,
1113
00:43:32,794 --> 00:43:35,528
"'Try me' feature on back."
1114
00:43:35,563 --> 00:43:37,363
[Heilemann] Probably
on the back of the doll.
1115
00:43:37,399 --> 00:43:40,617
[doll] I have no choice
but to tell you, you're fired.
1116
00:43:40,652 --> 00:43:42,685
[Stone] The next president
of the United States.
1117
00:43:42,704 --> 00:43:44,404
[doll] You're fired.
1118
00:43:44,456 --> 00:43:46,706
Is it the case now that you're--
you are not speaking to him?
1119
00:43:46,741 --> 00:43:48,324
- No, we speak occasionally.
- [Halperin] You do.
1120
00:43:48,359 --> 00:43:49,859
[Heilemann] When you say
"occasionally," you mean
1121
00:43:49,878 --> 00:43:51,694
you speak to him, like,
with what frequency?
1122
00:43:51,713 --> 00:43:53,129
- I'm curious, like daily?
- We're--we're on--
1123
00:43:53,164 --> 00:43:54,530
- We're on friendly terms.
- Hourly?
1124
00:43:54,549 --> 00:43:55,748
From time to time.
1125
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:58,334
♪ ambient tone ♪
1126
00:43:58,369 --> 00:44:00,136
[Heilemann] You'd ac--accept
the notion of politics
1127
00:44:00,171 --> 00:44:02,255
as basically like
a fight for survival, right?
1128
00:44:02,307 --> 00:44:03,372
[Stone]
It's a context, but yes.
1129
00:44:03,391 --> 00:44:04,474
[Heilemann]
Right, right, right.
1130
00:44:04,509 --> 00:44:06,208
- Kill or be killed.
- Yes.
1131
00:44:06,227 --> 00:44:07,477
And Trump's a brawler.
1132
00:44:07,512 --> 00:44:09,228
I mean, there's nothing
off-limits.
1133
00:44:09,264 --> 00:44:12,982
There'll be no Marquess
de Queensberry rules here.
1134
00:44:13,018 --> 00:44:15,068
He had an incredible
ability to,
1135
00:44:15,103 --> 00:44:17,603
at every phase of the race,
when someone has seemed to be
1136
00:44:17,656 --> 00:44:18,938
the threat that he
was worried about...
1137
00:44:18,990 --> 00:44:20,406
[Stone] Yes.
1138
00:44:20,442 --> 00:44:22,275
- To find the one element...
- [Stone] Yes.
1139
00:44:22,327 --> 00:44:24,410
[Heilemann] ...of their psyche,
distill it to a single thing.
1140
00:44:24,446 --> 00:44:26,279
"Jeb Bush is low-energy."
"Liddle Marco."
1141
00:44:26,331 --> 00:44:27,914
- Whatever it is.
- [Stone] Yes. Yes.
1142
00:44:27,949 --> 00:44:29,615
And just pummel,
pummel that person.
1143
00:44:29,668 --> 00:44:31,084
Yeah, 'cause he's used
the same kind--
1144
00:44:31,119 --> 00:44:33,586
he's used the exact same,
uh-uh-uh,
1145
00:44:33,621 --> 00:44:34,954
technique in business.
1146
00:44:35,006 --> 00:44:36,622
Look, this whole thing's
a high-wire act.
1147
00:44:36,675 --> 00:44:37,790
That's why it's so interesting.
1148
00:44:37,842 --> 00:44:39,459
That's why people
are tuning in.
1149
00:44:39,511 --> 00:44:42,095
'Cause it's genuine.
It's not predetermined.
1150
00:44:42,130 --> 00:44:43,930
Everything he's saying
isn't pre-tested.
1151
00:44:43,965 --> 00:44:46,415
So, uh, yeah, it's a--
you know, he's like--
1152
00:44:46,434 --> 00:44:50,103
it's like, you know,
dealing with live ammunition.
1153
00:44:50,138 --> 00:44:53,139
[seagulls squawking]
1154
00:44:56,194 --> 00:44:58,111
[man] Passengers ran in panic
1155
00:44:58,146 --> 00:45:00,613
after a bomb exploded
in the departures area
1156
00:45:00,648 --> 00:45:02,448
of Brussels international
airport Tuesday morning.
1157
00:45:02,484 --> 00:45:04,433
[man] Suicide bombers
struck that location.
1158
00:45:04,452 --> 00:45:06,786
And authorities are digging
for whatever possible
1159
00:45:06,821 --> 00:45:08,321
terror connections
they may have.
1160
00:45:08,373 --> 00:45:09,822
[man] These are the men
1161
00:45:09,874 --> 00:45:11,774
Belgian prosecutors
say were responsible...
1162
00:45:11,793 --> 00:45:13,793
[Halperin] National security's
gonna be a big issue.
1163
00:45:13,828 --> 00:45:15,495
You and Hillary Clinton
are both
1164
00:45:15,547 --> 00:45:17,163
way ahead in delegates now,
so let's say
1165
00:45:17,215 --> 00:45:19,048
it's a general election
between the two of you.
1166
00:45:19,084 --> 00:45:20,883
She was the Secretary of State,
nation's chief diplomat.
1167
00:45:20,919 --> 00:45:23,452
You're a businessman
and-and hosted a TV show.
1168
00:45:23,471 --> 00:45:24,804
How do you win that argument
1169
00:45:24,839 --> 00:45:26,389
at a time of national
security crisis?
1170
00:45:26,424 --> 00:45:28,007
I think we'll win it
because I think people
1171
00:45:28,059 --> 00:45:29,559
will see I'm much more
competent than she is.
1172
00:45:29,594 --> 00:45:30,843
But how do you prove
to people--
1173
00:45:30,895 --> 00:45:32,461
I think I'm much smarter
than she is.
1174
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:34,230
I think I'm much more
competent than she is.
1175
00:45:34,265 --> 00:45:35,348
[Heilemann] When'd you learn
about what happened in Brussels?
1176
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:37,066
How did--like,
just what happened?
1177
00:45:37,102 --> 00:45:38,467
- Like, what was that--
- [Trump] I received a call.
1178
00:45:38,486 --> 00:45:40,236
And then I turned on
the television.
1179
00:45:40,271 --> 00:45:41,988
- [Halperin] Like, 5 a.m.?
- Uh, pretty early, maybe six.
1180
00:45:42,023 --> 00:45:43,189
Your friend--your friend
knows to call you that early.
1181
00:45:43,241 --> 00:45:44,524
- Eh.
- That's a good friend.
1182
00:45:44,576 --> 00:45:46,308
They know I'm not
a big sleeper.
1183
00:45:46,327 --> 00:45:47,827
- [Halperin] Yeah. [chuckles]
- And I saw what happened.
1184
00:45:47,862 --> 00:45:49,145
And I turned on the television,
saw what happened.
1185
00:45:49,164 --> 00:45:50,863
Said, "Here we go."
Here we go.
1186
00:45:50,915 --> 00:45:51,748
Trump] Come on,
let's walk over.
1187
00:45:51,783 --> 00:45:53,249
[Heilemann] Okay.
1188
00:45:53,284 --> 00:45:56,252
♪ pensive music ♪
1189
00:45:56,287 --> 00:45:58,788
♪
1190
00:45:58,823 --> 00:46:00,339
[Halperin] You got the call
from your friend this morning.
1191
00:46:00,375 --> 00:46:01,507
You already were scheduled
to do a bunch
1192
00:46:01,543 --> 00:46:03,426
of morning show interviews
by phone.
1193
00:46:03,461 --> 00:46:05,995
Did you consult anybody
about what to say?
1194
00:46:06,014 --> 00:46:07,096
- No.
- Did you talk to anybody--no?
1195
00:46:07,132 --> 00:46:08,548
No, I don't have
to consult.
1196
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:10,666
Look, I say it from my heart
and my brain.
1197
00:46:10,685 --> 00:46:12,351
- Right.
- It's not just heart.
1198
00:46:12,387 --> 00:46:13,886
It's heart and brain.
And that's what I do.
1199
00:46:13,938 --> 00:46:15,221
So you just say
what you want to say?
1200
00:46:15,273 --> 00:46:17,890
I say what I think
is appropriate.
1201
00:46:17,942 --> 00:46:19,525
[Halperin] Who are you
thinking about more these days:
1202
00:46:19,561 --> 00:46:21,611
Cruz and Kasich
or Clinton?
1203
00:46:21,646 --> 00:46:23,229
- [Trump] Clinton.
- [Halperin] Clinton.
1204
00:46:23,281 --> 00:46:25,014
You know, I think I'm gonna do
very well against, uh,
1205
00:46:25,033 --> 00:46:26,032
I call them the leftovers.
1206
00:46:26,067 --> 00:46:27,349
[laughs]
1207
00:46:27,368 --> 00:46:29,485
And I think
I'm gonna do very well.
1208
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:30,787
And we'll see what happens.
1209
00:46:30,822 --> 00:46:32,521
You think she's afraid
of you?
1210
00:46:32,540 --> 00:46:34,907
The last person she wants
to run against is me.
1211
00:46:34,959 --> 00:46:36,576
[Halperin]
But do you think she's--
1212
00:46:36,628 --> 00:46:37,994
And I know that from her people.
I know that for a fact.
1213
00:46:38,029 --> 00:46:39,662
The last person
she wants to run against.
1214
00:46:39,697 --> 00:46:40,797
What are her people
doing talking to you
1215
00:46:40,832 --> 00:46:42,381
- about that?
- They tell me--
1216
00:46:42,417 --> 00:46:43,916
[Halperin] Do you remember
the last time
1217
00:46:43,968 --> 00:46:44,834
you talked to Hillary
or Bill Clinton?
1218
00:46:44,869 --> 00:46:45,968
[Trump] A long time ago.
1219
00:46:46,004 --> 00:46:48,304
And you got
mutual friends?
1220
00:46:48,339 --> 00:46:50,306
Oh, I have people.
You know, I grew up in New York.
1221
00:46:50,341 --> 00:46:51,540
- Yeah.
- And they were in New York.
1222
00:46:51,559 --> 00:46:53,259
But it's been a long time.
1223
00:46:53,311 --> 00:46:54,644
[Heilemann] Just throw your mind
back for a second, all right?
1224
00:46:54,679 --> 00:46:56,429
You invited them
to your wedding.
1225
00:46:56,464 --> 00:46:58,297
- [Heilemann] Right? Okay.
- [Trump] Mm-hmm.
1226
00:46:58,333 --> 00:47:00,099
[Heilemann] Uh, is-is that--
were you guys actually--
1227
00:47:00,134 --> 00:47:02,068
did you feel like, at that
time, you were actually friends
1228
00:47:02,103 --> 00:47:03,636
and friendly, or was that just
all kind of make-believe?
1229
00:47:03,671 --> 00:47:05,104
[Trump] I have been considered
a world-class businessman.
1230
00:47:05,156 --> 00:47:06,489
- I'm all over the world.
- Right.
1231
00:47:06,524 --> 00:47:08,557
I will invite important people
to my wedding
1232
00:47:08,576 --> 00:47:10,443
because oftentimes
you need those people.
1233
00:47:10,495 --> 00:47:12,078
When you're doing deals,
when you're doing deals
1234
00:47:12,113 --> 00:47:13,913
in other countries
and you need approvals
1235
00:47:13,948 --> 00:47:16,065
from this country
to do deals in other countries,
1236
00:47:16,084 --> 00:47:17,667
it's good to have relationships.
1237
00:47:17,702 --> 00:47:19,252
So there was no warmth
between you then?
1238
00:47:19,287 --> 00:47:20,920
- But you--
- Even then, you weren't old--
1239
00:47:20,955 --> 00:47:22,171
you're not--if you weren't
friendly then...
1240
00:47:22,207 --> 00:47:23,756
Eh, friendly.
A little bit friendly.
1241
00:47:23,791 --> 00:47:25,091
- It was just--
- They were nice. I was nice.
1242
00:47:25,126 --> 00:47:26,375
- But it's business.
- Right.
1243
00:47:26,410 --> 00:47:28,127
You know, the old thing,
the old story.
1244
00:47:28,179 --> 00:47:30,179
It's not personal.
It's just business.
1245
00:47:30,215 --> 00:47:31,764
That's a mafia saying,
but, you know.
1246
00:47:31,799 --> 00:47:32,765
- It's all right.
- That's all right?
1247
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:34,217
Yeah, it happens to be true.
1248
00:47:34,252 --> 00:47:35,885
You had "low-energy Jeb."
You had "liddle Marco."
1249
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:37,803
You got "lyin' Ted." What are
you gonna say for Hillary?
1250
00:47:37,856 --> 00:47:39,555
Well, I have a name for her,
but I'm not gonna use it yet.
1251
00:47:39,590 --> 00:47:40,973
- Oh, come on! Come on!
- You got--you know what it is?
1252
00:47:41,025 --> 00:47:42,525
You know what it is?
Give us a hint.
1253
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:43,860
[Trump] We have plenty.
We knocked out plenty.
1254
00:47:43,895 --> 00:47:46,529
Is it-is it "something" Hillary?
1255
00:47:46,564 --> 00:47:48,430
At least one.
1256
00:47:48,449 --> 00:47:51,284
[bird chirping]
1257
00:47:51,319 --> 00:47:53,152
How long do you think
it'll be, Mr. President,
1258
00:47:53,204 --> 00:47:56,205
before there's
a first husband?
1259
00:47:56,241 --> 00:47:57,657
[Bill Clinton] Not long.
1260
00:47:57,709 --> 00:47:59,709
Not long.
I think there'll be a--
1261
00:47:59,744 --> 00:48:02,111
[clears throat] A woman
will be elected president
1262
00:48:02,130 --> 00:48:04,163
probably in my lifetime.
1263
00:48:04,215 --> 00:48:07,833
I certainly--I hope that a woman
will have a chance to run.
1264
00:48:07,886 --> 00:48:10,119
[Gore] Would you raise
your right hand, please?
1265
00:48:10,138 --> 00:48:12,722
[McKinnon] Hillary Clinton's
march to the presidency
1266
00:48:12,757 --> 00:48:14,974
has been going on for decades.
1267
00:48:15,009 --> 00:48:16,959
Former senator.
1268
00:48:16,978 --> 00:48:19,562
[Biden] Madam Secretary,
please raise your right hand.
1269
00:48:19,597 --> 00:48:21,564
[McKinnon] She's a former
Secretary of State.
1270
00:48:21,599 --> 00:48:23,649
♪ rousing pensive music ♪
1271
00:48:23,685 --> 00:48:25,685
[Obama]
There has never been
1272
00:48:25,737 --> 00:48:29,238
any man or woman
1273
00:48:29,274 --> 00:48:33,526
more qualified
for this office
1274
00:48:33,578 --> 00:48:35,661
than Hillary Clinton.
1275
00:48:35,697 --> 00:48:37,580
[Clinton] The stakes
in this election
1276
00:48:37,615 --> 00:48:40,149
just keep getting
higher and higher,
1277
00:48:40,168 --> 00:48:42,118
while the rhetoric
on the other side
1278
00:48:42,153 --> 00:48:43,869
keeps getting lower and lower.
1279
00:48:43,922 --> 00:48:45,705
[crowd booing]
1280
00:48:45,757 --> 00:48:47,540
[McKinnon] She's probably
weathered more attacks
1281
00:48:47,592 --> 00:48:50,326
than any candidate in
the history of U.S. politics.
1282
00:48:50,345 --> 00:48:52,044
She's been burned
by the press a lot.
1283
00:48:52,096 --> 00:48:54,297
It's understandable
why she and her campaign
1284
00:48:54,332 --> 00:48:55,664
would be protective
and reluctant
1285
00:48:55,683 --> 00:48:57,967
to open up more.
1286
00:48:58,002 --> 00:48:59,602
You know,
I think she's got skin
1287
00:48:59,637 --> 00:49:02,355
probably as thick
as a rhinoceros at this point.
1288
00:49:02,390 --> 00:49:04,473
There's not a lot
of new things you can throw
1289
00:49:04,508 --> 00:49:05,975
at Hillary Clinton
that she hasn't seen.
1290
00:49:06,010 --> 00:49:08,361
Although Donald Trump
might be the first.
1291
00:49:08,396 --> 00:49:12,181
[indistinct chatter]
1292
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:14,200
[Halperin] Today,
as we sit here, do you think
1293
00:49:14,235 --> 00:49:17,620
most likely Donald Trump will be
the Republican nominee?
1294
00:49:17,655 --> 00:49:18,854
- [Podesta] Yes.
- [Mook] Yes.
1295
00:49:18,873 --> 00:49:20,522
[Palmieri] Yes.
1296
00:49:20,541 --> 00:49:22,124
[Halperin] Tell me,
like, an anecdote or a moment
1297
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:25,711
where you went from
"no" to "maybe."
1298
00:49:25,747 --> 00:49:28,714
[Podesta]
When he attacked McCain.
1299
00:49:28,750 --> 00:49:30,916
A mere mortal would--
could not have survived that.
1300
00:49:30,952 --> 00:49:32,451
Well, that's what I was
gonna say, was it the attack--
1301
00:49:32,487 --> 00:49:34,971
The attack.
Doubling down on it.
1302
00:49:35,006 --> 00:49:36,255
- Right.
- And...
1303
00:49:36,307 --> 00:49:37,840
- And then...
- ...rising.
1304
00:49:37,875 --> 00:49:40,142
A week later, when it was not
the beginning of the end,
1305
00:49:40,178 --> 00:49:42,895
I was like, "Oh.
This is something different."
1306
00:49:42,930 --> 00:49:44,480
Yeah.
1307
00:49:44,515 --> 00:49:46,182
[Halperin] Because
it showed he had balls?
1308
00:49:46,217 --> 00:49:48,351
It showed that he was
not subject to the normal rules?
1309
00:49:48,386 --> 00:49:49,902
[Podesta] Yes.
1310
00:49:49,937 --> 00:49:51,020
[Palmieri] Not subject
to the normal--yeah.
1311
00:49:51,055 --> 00:49:52,521
I think,
on the Republican side,
1312
00:49:52,556 --> 00:49:55,408
he, uh, has been
1313
00:49:55,443 --> 00:49:57,226
vexing to them
1314
00:49:57,245 --> 00:49:59,328
in being able
to control the debate.
1315
00:49:59,364 --> 00:50:00,496
Right.
1316
00:50:00,531 --> 00:50:01,897
Do you think
he could do that
1317
00:50:01,916 --> 00:50:04,166
in a general election
against you?
1318
00:50:07,505 --> 00:50:09,238
- Why?
- [Podesta] That-that will be--
1319
00:50:09,257 --> 00:50:11,907
Our job will be to make sure
that doesn't happen.
1320
00:50:11,926 --> 00:50:14,260
But why would it be harder for
him to control it against you?
1321
00:50:14,295 --> 00:50:19,215
Well, I think he now
has higher unfavorabilities
1322
00:50:19,250 --> 00:50:21,567
than virtually any other
likely nominee in history.
1323
00:50:21,602 --> 00:50:23,686
Statistic-statistically true,
but again,
1324
00:50:23,721 --> 00:50:25,688
John-John made the argument,
which is think is correct,
1325
00:50:25,723 --> 00:50:27,440
which he has frustrated
his rivals...
1326
00:50:27,475 --> 00:50:28,691
[Podesta] Absolutely.
1327
00:50:28,726 --> 00:50:30,142
...by getting
a lot of coverage.
1328
00:50:30,194 --> 00:50:32,594
The Republicans
didn't figure that out.
1329
00:50:32,613 --> 00:50:34,030
[Heilemann] Is he suitable
1330
00:50:34,065 --> 00:50:34,980
to be commander in chief?
1331
00:50:35,033 --> 00:50:36,032
What do you think?
1332
00:50:36,067 --> 00:50:37,066
Do you--well, do you guys--
1333
00:50:37,101 --> 00:50:38,150
What do you think?
1334
00:50:38,202 --> 00:50:39,618
You're an o-o-observer.
1335
00:50:39,654 --> 00:50:43,456
You've watched what
a president actually does.
1336
00:50:43,491 --> 00:50:45,458
I think I have faith
in the American people
1337
00:50:45,493 --> 00:50:47,209
to make a decision about who's
fit to be commander in chief.
1338
00:50:47,245 --> 00:50:49,829
[Halperin] Do you think
he might be more shrewd
1339
00:50:49,881 --> 00:50:51,047
than you give him credit for
1340
00:50:51,082 --> 00:50:52,331
or used to give him credit for?
1341
00:50:52,383 --> 00:50:54,300
This is what is dangerous
in politics
1342
00:50:54,335 --> 00:50:56,502
is when we focus
on the process
1343
00:50:56,554 --> 00:50:58,637
and not on the substance.
1344
00:50:58,673 --> 00:51:01,474
You can call it shrewd.
You can call it brilliant.
1345
00:51:01,509 --> 00:51:02,808
I don't care what you call it
1346
00:51:02,844 --> 00:51:04,060
and I don't care
how "brilliant" it is.
1347
00:51:04,095 --> 00:51:05,627
It's really bad!
1348
00:51:05,646 --> 00:51:07,346
And I think there's
a point at which, you know,
1349
00:51:07,398 --> 00:51:09,849
the-the-the race
is gonna come into relief.
1350
00:51:09,901 --> 00:51:11,016
You're gonna have
two candidates.
1351
00:51:11,069 --> 00:51:13,769
And the voters
are gonna get serious.
1352
00:51:13,804 --> 00:51:15,237
And it won't be
a game anymore.
1353
00:51:15,273 --> 00:51:16,572
[man chuckles]
1354
00:51:20,078 --> 00:51:21,894
[woman] Ted Cruz suspended his
campaign last night after...
1355
00:51:21,929 --> 00:51:23,763
[Cruz] Everything
in Donald's world...
1356
00:51:23,798 --> 00:51:24,997
[woman] ...losing to Trump
by double digits
1357
00:51:25,032 --> 00:51:26,449
in the Indiana primary.
1358
00:51:26,484 --> 00:51:28,751
[Cruz] ...is about
a narcissist at a level
1359
00:51:28,786 --> 00:51:30,536
I don't think
this country's ever seen.
1360
00:51:30,571 --> 00:51:32,922
[Kasich] Look, this country
has never been great
1361
00:51:32,957 --> 00:51:35,157
when we fight with one another.
1362
00:51:35,176 --> 00:51:38,110
♪ somber music ♪
1363
00:51:38,146 --> 00:51:40,045
♪
1364
00:51:40,098 --> 00:51:41,881
[woman] After
a contentious primary,
1365
00:51:41,933 --> 00:51:44,934
Donald Trump is under pressure
to bring his party together.
1366
00:51:44,969 --> 00:51:46,352
[woman] The question
for Donald Trump
1367
00:51:46,387 --> 00:51:48,270
is whether he can leave
this convention
1368
00:51:48,306 --> 00:51:51,173
with at least having
an energized Republican base.
1369
00:51:51,192 --> 00:51:53,526
If he can't, it'll be
much harder for him
1370
00:51:53,561 --> 00:51:56,112
to really compete
against Hillary Clinton.
1371
00:51:56,147 --> 00:51:59,115
♪ suspenseful music ♪
1372
00:51:59,150 --> 00:52:01,534
♪
1373
00:52:01,569 --> 00:52:06,038
[woman] Let us commence the call
of the roll of the states.
1374
00:52:06,073 --> 00:52:07,873
[Ryan] What do you say
that we unify this party
1375
00:52:07,909 --> 00:52:10,709
at this crucial moment
when unity is everything?
1376
00:52:10,745 --> 00:52:13,546
♪
1377
00:52:13,581 --> 00:52:16,298
[man] The great state of
Alabama is proud
1378
00:52:16,334 --> 00:52:20,002
to cast 36 votes
for the next president,
1379
00:52:20,037 --> 00:52:21,554
Donald J. Trump!
1380
00:52:21,589 --> 00:52:23,422
[crowd chanting]
We want Trump! We want Trump!
1381
00:52:23,474 --> 00:52:26,225
We want Trump! We want Trump!
1382
00:52:26,260 --> 00:52:30,513
[woman] California,
that is 100%
1383
00:52:30,548 --> 00:52:34,216
rock-solid pro-Trump.
1384
00:52:34,235 --> 00:52:36,652
[man] And 11 votes
for my friend
1385
00:52:36,687 --> 00:52:38,737
and the next president
of the United States,
1386
00:52:38,773 --> 00:52:40,656
Donald J. Trump!
1387
00:52:40,691 --> 00:52:43,692
[crowd cheering]
1388
00:52:46,063 --> 00:52:48,030
[Trump Jr.]
I have the incredible honor
1389
00:52:48,065 --> 00:52:49,949
to watch what
my father has done
1390
00:52:50,001 --> 00:52:51,784
in creating this movement--
because it's not
1391
00:52:51,836 --> 00:52:53,502
a campaign anymore,
it's a movement.
1392
00:52:53,538 --> 00:52:55,171
And it is my honor
1393
00:52:55,206 --> 00:52:58,340
to be able to throw
Donald Trump
1394
00:52:58,376 --> 00:53:01,076
over the top
in the delegate count tonight
1395
00:53:01,095 --> 00:53:04,246
with 89 delegates.
1396
00:53:04,265 --> 00:53:07,216
Congratulations, Dad!
We love you!
1397
00:53:07,251 --> 00:53:09,268
[crowd chanting]
Trump! Trump! Trump! Trump!
1398
00:53:09,303 --> 00:53:12,271
♪ upbeat atmospheric music ♪
1399
00:53:12,306 --> 00:53:16,809
♪
1400
00:53:16,861 --> 00:53:20,529
[Ryan] I formally declare
Donald J. Trump
1401
00:53:20,565 --> 00:53:24,033
and Michael R. Pence
the Republican nominees
1402
00:53:24,068 --> 00:53:26,035
for president
and vice president
1403
00:53:26,070 --> 00:53:28,153
of these United States.
1404
00:53:28,206 --> 00:53:31,790
[crowd cheering]
1405
00:53:31,826 --> 00:53:34,710
[indistinct chatter]
1406
00:53:34,745 --> 00:53:36,795
[man over speaker]
...and unify South Carolina...
1407
00:53:36,831 --> 00:53:38,464
Great job, man, great!
1408
00:53:38,499 --> 00:53:39,448
Thank you.
1409
00:53:39,467 --> 00:53:41,050
Thank you.
It was awesome.
1410
00:53:41,085 --> 00:53:44,336
- [man] Great job.
- [Trump Jr.] Thank you guys.
1411
00:53:44,388 --> 00:53:46,388
- I am so proud!
- Everything went well?
1412
00:53:46,424 --> 00:53:48,173
Good to see you. It went well.
I'm so proud of you.
1413
00:53:48,226 --> 00:53:49,975
- I'll see you tonight.
- We'll see you in a little bit.
1414
00:53:50,011 --> 00:53:51,677
[Halperin] A bunch
of these people who now say
1415
00:53:51,729 --> 00:53:53,145
they're never Trump
are gonna be Trump.
1416
00:53:53,180 --> 00:53:54,847
They're gonna be Trump
in August
1417
00:53:54,899 --> 00:53:56,065
or September, maybe October,
1418
00:53:56,100 --> 00:53:57,650
maybe even some of them
in November.
1419
00:53:57,685 --> 00:53:59,101
And I'm getting
that feeling here tonight.
1420
00:53:59,136 --> 00:54:00,986
They're either gonna be
for Trump,
1421
00:54:01,022 --> 00:54:01,970
or they're not gonna be
in the Republican Party.
1422
00:54:01,989 --> 00:54:03,572
[man] Yeah.
1423
00:54:03,608 --> 00:54:05,024
'Cause it's his
Republican Party now.
1424
00:54:05,076 --> 00:54:06,825
[Heilemann] Oh, come on,
that's ridiculous.
1425
00:54:06,861 --> 00:54:08,027
There's still dozens of people
walking around here saying...
1426
00:54:08,079 --> 00:54:08,977
There are.
There are.
1427
00:54:08,996 --> 00:54:10,646
..."I'm not for him."
1428
00:54:10,665 --> 00:54:12,531
But here's the reality
that's setting in.
1429
00:54:12,583 --> 00:54:14,083
Roll call's happened. It's done.
There's, like, no more...
1430
00:54:14,118 --> 00:54:15,317
Yeah, I know he's the nominee,
Mark, I get that.
1431
00:54:15,336 --> 00:54:16,835
I get that, but there--
the fact is,
1432
00:54:16,871 --> 00:54:18,787
there are still, like, many--
1433
00:54:18,822 --> 00:54:21,156
people you've worked for
who wouldn't come here
1434
00:54:21,175 --> 00:54:22,541
- under any scenario.
- [McKinnon] Oh, I know.
1435
00:54:22,593 --> 00:54:24,043
There's a reason
John McCain's not here.
1436
00:54:24,095 --> 00:54:25,494
[McKinnon] We don't
disagree with that.
1437
00:54:25,513 --> 00:54:26,712
There's a reason
George W. Bush is not here.
1438
00:54:26,764 --> 00:54:28,347
There's a reason
that your friends
1439
00:54:28,382 --> 00:54:29,848
from the Bush White House
are walking around here saying
1440
00:54:29,884 --> 00:54:31,350
it's the most depressing
night of their lives.
1441
00:54:31,385 --> 00:54:32,718
- Yes. I don't--
- So, like, so--
1442
00:54:32,770 --> 00:54:34,386
let's not pretend like
everyone's now
1443
00:54:34,438 --> 00:54:36,004
suddenly like, "Oh, it's
all great, it's all good."
1444
00:54:36,023 --> 00:54:38,274
But people are feeling it.
This is our nominee.
1445
00:54:38,309 --> 00:54:41,477
♪ tense music ♪
1446
00:54:41,512 --> 00:54:44,196
You guys are all--you guys
are higher than I am right now.
1447
00:54:44,231 --> 00:54:45,230
[laughs]
1448
00:54:45,283 --> 00:54:50,286
♪
1449
00:54:52,856 --> 00:54:54,623
[Halperin] I believe from--
my one person told me that
1450
00:54:54,659 --> 00:54:57,242
Cru--Ted Cruz is going
to surprise-endorse Trump
1451
00:54:57,295 --> 00:54:59,128
at the convention tonight
in his speech.
1452
00:54:59,163 --> 00:55:00,879
I asked Kellyanne
to confirm it.
1453
00:55:00,915 --> 00:55:02,464
- And I said I cannot.
- She declined.
1454
00:55:02,500 --> 00:55:03,916
She declined with her mouth.
1455
00:55:03,968 --> 00:55:05,701
Kellyanne, your eyes
right now are confirming it.
1456
00:55:05,720 --> 00:55:06,885
What are you talking--
what are you--
1457
00:55:06,921 --> 00:55:08,804
Like, why-why play
these games?
1458
00:55:08,839 --> 00:55:10,589
There's no way for me--I'm not
in the position to confirm that.
1459
00:55:10,641 --> 00:55:12,758
♪
1460
00:55:12,810 --> 00:55:14,476
[Cruz] If you love
our country
1461
00:55:14,512 --> 00:55:17,980
and love your children as much
as I know that you do...
1462
00:55:18,015 --> 00:55:19,765
[man] Come on!
Say it!
1463
00:55:19,817 --> 00:55:21,400
Say it, Ted!
1464
00:55:21,435 --> 00:55:23,068
[crowd cheering]
1465
00:55:23,104 --> 00:55:26,238
Stand and speak
and vote your conscience.
1466
00:55:26,273 --> 00:55:27,990
[crowd booing]
1467
00:55:28,025 --> 00:55:30,326
[Cruz] Vote for candidates
up and down the ticket
1468
00:55:30,361 --> 00:55:33,112
who you trust
to defend our freedom
1469
00:55:33,164 --> 00:55:35,748
and to be faithful
to the Constitution.
1470
00:55:35,783 --> 00:55:36,999
Come on, Ted!
1471
00:55:37,034 --> 00:55:39,501
[crowd shouting]
1472
00:55:39,537 --> 00:55:40,869
Come on, Ted!
1473
00:55:40,904 --> 00:55:42,538
[crowd chanting]
Trump! Trump! Trump!
1474
00:55:42,573 --> 00:55:45,907
Trump! Trump! Trump!
Trump! Trump! Trump!
1475
00:55:45,926 --> 00:55:50,929
♪
1476
00:55:52,933 --> 00:55:55,851
We will unite the party.
1477
00:55:55,886 --> 00:55:59,438
And God bless
the United States of America.
1478
00:55:59,473 --> 00:56:01,190
[amplifier feedback whines]
1479
00:56:01,225 --> 00:56:03,025
[man] We are live
at the Republican Convention
1480
00:56:03,060 --> 00:56:06,612
in Cleveland, and another
night and another wow!
1481
00:56:06,647 --> 00:56:08,313
[man] We haven't seen
anything like this before.
1482
00:56:08,366 --> 00:56:09,815
[woman] We have not.
1483
00:56:09,867 --> 00:56:10,949
Ladies and gentlemen,
this was, uh--
1484
00:56:10,985 --> 00:56:12,601
wow, that was some discord.
1485
00:56:12,620 --> 00:56:13,602
[man] Security escorting
Cruz's wife, Heidi,
1486
00:56:13,621 --> 00:56:15,371
out of the arena.
1487
00:56:15,406 --> 00:56:17,573
[man] What's your message
to Senator Cruz supporters
1488
00:56:17,608 --> 00:56:20,709
who heard their candidate
not endorse Donald Trump?
1489
00:56:22,246 --> 00:56:23,662
No--yeah, what's
their campaign message?
1490
00:56:26,584 --> 00:56:27,916
I-I'm sure you already
answered this, but...
1491
00:56:34,058 --> 00:56:35,891
[woman] That's a pretty big
smile, sir.
1492
00:56:35,926 --> 00:56:37,342
[Heilemann] Wow, that's
a pretty big smile there, Paul.
1493
00:56:37,395 --> 00:56:39,144
- [woman] Big smile.
- I'm smiling with him.
1494
00:56:39,180 --> 00:56:40,512
[Heilemann] We're reading
your body language, though.
1495
00:56:40,564 --> 00:56:41,563
[Halperin] I'm smiling,
but which is it?
1496
00:56:41,599 --> 00:56:42,981
Did you foster that or not?
1497
00:56:43,017 --> 00:56:43,849
Did that play the way
you wanted it to?
1498
00:56:43,901 --> 00:56:45,100
Look, I mean, I think
1499
00:56:45,135 --> 00:56:46,568
the delegates
were very disappointed.
1500
00:56:46,604 --> 00:56:48,854
♪ ominous music ♪
1501
00:56:48,906 --> 00:56:52,324
I still don't actually--
don't know what happened.
1502
00:56:52,359 --> 00:56:54,076
[indistinct chatter]
1503
00:56:54,111 --> 00:56:56,978
♪
1504
00:56:56,997 --> 00:56:59,948
[crowd cheering]
1505
00:56:59,983 --> 00:57:03,985
[crowd chanting]
USA! USA! USA!
1506
00:57:04,004 --> 00:57:05,987
[crowd cheering]
1507
00:57:06,006 --> 00:57:07,589
[Trump] When I take
1508
00:57:07,625 --> 00:57:10,709
the oath of office
next year,
1509
00:57:10,761 --> 00:57:12,878
I will restore
1510
00:57:12,930 --> 00:57:15,464
law and order
to our country.
1511
00:57:15,499 --> 00:57:18,467
[crowd cheering]
1512
00:57:21,305 --> 00:57:26,024
I am your voice!
1513
00:57:26,060 --> 00:57:28,060
Hillary Clinton's message
1514
00:57:28,112 --> 00:57:30,863
is that things
will never change,
1515
00:57:30,898 --> 00:57:32,314
never ever.
1516
00:57:32,349 --> 00:57:34,366
My message is that
1517
00:57:34,401 --> 00:57:36,702
things have to change,
1518
00:57:36,737 --> 00:57:39,705
and they have to change
right now.
1519
00:57:39,740 --> 00:57:43,742
[crowd cheering]
1520
00:57:43,794 --> 00:57:47,880
God bless you, and good night.
I love you.
1521
00:57:47,915 --> 00:57:50,716
[crowd cheering]
1522
00:57:50,751 --> 00:57:55,754
♪
1523
00:58:02,546 --> 00:58:05,564
[plane engine roars]
1524
00:58:14,191 --> 00:58:18,160
I think the convention
was a tremendous success.
1525
00:58:18,195 --> 00:58:20,329
There was love in that room,
I'll tell you what.
1526
00:58:20,364 --> 00:58:22,698
There was tremendous love
in the room.
1527
00:58:22,733 --> 00:58:24,333
Uh, you look at the unity.
1528
00:58:24,368 --> 00:58:25,501
I mean, take a look
at Ted Cruz.
1529
00:58:25,536 --> 00:58:26,869
He got booed off the stage.
1530
00:58:26,904 --> 00:58:28,453
I've never seen
anything like it.
1531
00:58:35,462 --> 00:58:36,461
- To tweak him?
- Yeah.
1532
00:58:36,514 --> 00:58:37,963
I would never do a thing
like that.
1533
00:58:38,015 --> 00:58:39,848
- But yes.
- [Halperin] Yeah, yeah, so...
1534
00:58:45,506 --> 00:58:47,306
- Well, I understand television.
- [Halperin] Yeah.
1535
00:58:47,358 --> 00:58:48,941
But nobody's a great producer
1536
00:58:48,976 --> 00:58:50,809
'cause there's always
an element of luck.
1537
00:58:50,861 --> 00:58:52,694
[Halperin] Right,
1538
00:58:54,949 --> 00:58:57,232
I think this:
1539
00:58:57,267 --> 00:58:58,817
I walk in,
and the arena went crazy.
1540
00:58:58,869 --> 00:59:00,602
[Halperin] Right.
1541
00:59:00,621 --> 00:59:02,321
Because there's great unity
in the Republican Party,
1542
00:59:02,373 --> 00:59:03,455
and people don't know it.
1543
00:59:03,490 --> 00:59:05,874
Had I not walked in,
1544
00:59:05,910 --> 00:59:09,161
I think that audience would have
ripped him off the stage.
1545
00:59:09,213 --> 00:59:12,464
You know, this "Never Trump"
was-was fiction.
1546
00:59:12,499 --> 00:59:14,383
That was in somebody's mind,
1547
00:59:14,418 --> 00:59:16,668
mostly the media's mind.
It never had a chance.
1548
00:59:18,923 --> 00:59:21,423
No, I-I think it's gonna be
a very boring convention.
1549
00:59:21,458 --> 00:59:24,459
♪ ambient music ♪
1550
00:59:24,478 --> 00:59:28,697
♪
1551
00:59:28,732 --> 00:59:30,549
[crowd cheering]
1552
00:59:30,584 --> 00:59:32,351
[man] In an electric night
here at the DNC,
1553
00:59:32,386 --> 00:59:34,052
the crowd seems more unified...
1554
00:59:34,088 --> 00:59:35,737
[Clinton] ...with the bigotry
and the bombast.
1555
00:59:35,773 --> 00:59:37,739
America is great
1556
00:59:37,775 --> 00:59:40,609
because America is good.
1557
00:59:40,644 --> 00:59:42,744
[woman] Hillary Clinton
makes history
1558
00:59:42,780 --> 00:59:47,449
becoming the first woman
U.S. presidential nominee ever,
1559
00:59:47,484 --> 00:59:49,835
shattering a new glass ceiling.
1560
00:59:49,870 --> 00:59:53,755
But can she break through
the public's image of her?
1561
00:59:53,791 --> 00:59:56,508
[man] Hillary Clinton has had
a difficult relationship
1562
00:59:56,543 --> 00:59:58,260
with the truth.
1563
00:59:58,295 --> 01:00:01,013
Perhaps not more than
conventional politicians,
1564
01:00:01,048 --> 01:00:03,966
but there now is
30 years of baggage.
1565
01:00:04,001 --> 01:00:06,051
♪
1566
01:00:06,086 --> 01:00:08,253
[woman] Republican presidential
nominee Donald Trump
1567
01:00:08,289 --> 01:00:11,440
hired Stephen Bannon
of Breitbart News as CEO.
1568
01:00:11,475 --> 01:00:14,359
[man] But Bannon has a special
zeal for the Clintons.
1569
01:00:14,395 --> 01:00:16,895
Breitbart News has taken
every available shot
1570
01:00:16,947 --> 01:00:18,230
to complicate her candidacy...
1571
01:00:18,282 --> 01:00:21,199
[traffic honking]
1572
01:00:21,235 --> 01:00:24,236
[buzzer sounds]
1573
01:00:26,824 --> 01:00:29,374
The mailbox says,
1574
01:00:29,410 --> 01:00:32,878
"Fox News, Stone"
right here.
1575
01:00:32,913 --> 01:00:34,079
This is it.
1576
01:00:36,967 --> 01:00:39,001
[Stone] I have an excellent
rapport with Steve Bannon.
1577
01:00:39,036 --> 01:00:40,385
[Halperin] Yeah.
1578
01:00:40,421 --> 01:00:41,470
[Stone] And Bannon
is my kind of guy.
1579
01:00:41,505 --> 01:00:42,888
He's a bomb thrower.
1580
01:00:42,923 --> 01:00:44,673
He thinks outside the box.
1581
01:00:44,708 --> 01:00:46,708
If Donald Trump runs
a conventional
1582
01:00:46,727 --> 01:00:48,894
Republican campaign,
he will lose.
1583
01:00:48,929 --> 01:00:50,228
[Halperin] Right.
1584
01:00:50,264 --> 01:00:52,564
What is Steve Bannon
doing in the campaign?
1585
01:00:52,599 --> 01:00:54,149
- Laying low.
- Yeah.
1586
01:00:54,184 --> 01:00:55,767
He never worked
on a campaign, right?
1587
01:00:55,819 --> 01:00:58,153
No, but, uh, John Mitchell
never ran a campaign either,
1588
01:00:58,188 --> 01:01:01,556
but he elected
Richard Nixon president.
1589
01:01:01,575 --> 01:01:04,826
I've never seen the voters
this angry or this sour
1590
01:01:04,862 --> 01:01:06,278
- or this distrustful.
- Right.
1591
01:01:06,330 --> 01:01:08,080
What's different
about this cycle is,
1592
01:01:08,115 --> 01:01:11,199
they've caught on to the role
of the mainstream media,
1593
01:01:11,234 --> 01:01:14,503
echoing, magnifying,
and distorting,
1594
01:01:14,538 --> 01:01:17,005
uh, facts on behalf of
the political establishment.
1595
01:01:17,041 --> 01:01:19,007
So just because
something's on TV now--
1596
01:01:19,043 --> 01:01:20,742
CNN, CBS, whatever--
1597
01:01:20,761 --> 01:01:22,744
they don't necessarily
believe it.
1598
01:01:22,763 --> 01:01:25,263
Bannon, he brings, uh,
1599
01:01:25,299 --> 01:01:27,632
a much better sense
of the new media
1600
01:01:27,685 --> 01:01:29,768
and the importance
of the new media.
1601
01:01:29,803 --> 01:01:33,421
Uh, and he knows the ent--
the entire Clinton oeuvre
1602
01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:34,523
in terms of research.
1603
01:01:34,558 --> 01:01:35,924
Right.
1604
01:01:35,943 --> 01:01:38,310
- You have three, uh, debates.
- Right.
1605
01:01:38,362 --> 01:01:41,262
He could come at her
anywhere.
1606
01:01:41,281 --> 01:01:45,033
Will one of her husband's
rape victims be in the audience?
1607
01:01:45,069 --> 01:01:47,652
Is that a possibility?
1608
01:01:47,705 --> 01:01:48,987
Are you just throwing that
out there, or is that a...
1609
01:01:49,039 --> 01:01:50,655
Just a--well, I mean,
I-I--
1610
01:01:50,708 --> 01:01:52,040
I don't know that
that's going to happen.
1611
01:01:52,076 --> 01:01:53,625
- Yeah.
- But--but it certainly could.
1612
01:01:53,660 --> 01:01:54,960
I mean, the worst thing
in politics
1613
01:01:54,995 --> 01:01:56,828
than being wrong
is to be worried.
1614
01:01:56,880 --> 01:01:57,879
Right.
1615
01:02:01,251 --> 01:02:04,736
[helicopter rotors whirring]
1616
01:02:04,772 --> 01:02:07,272
[man] The stakes could not
be any higher for this debate.
1617
01:02:07,307 --> 01:02:09,290
Ninety minutes that
could change the race.
1618
01:02:09,309 --> 01:02:11,009
[woman] New poll shows
Hillary Clinton
1619
01:02:11,061 --> 01:02:13,845
and Donald Trump
in a near dead heat.
1620
01:02:13,897 --> 01:02:16,481
Clinton is leading
by just two percentage points
1621
01:02:16,517 --> 01:02:17,649
in the latest...
1622
01:02:17,684 --> 01:02:20,685
[crowd shouting]
1623
01:02:24,191 --> 01:02:26,074
[woman]
Welcome to the media circus!
1624
01:02:26,110 --> 01:02:28,026
I'm a metaphor!
1625
01:02:28,078 --> 01:02:31,947
[instrumental version
of "Thriller" playing]
1626
01:02:31,982 --> 01:02:33,165
- Ready?
- [man] Yeah, I'm ready.
1627
01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:34,166
Okay.
1628
01:02:34,201 --> 01:02:37,536
♪
1629
01:02:37,588 --> 01:02:38,370
[scanner beeps]
1630
01:02:38,422 --> 01:02:39,204
Thanks.
1631
01:02:39,256 --> 01:02:41,006
How are you?
1632
01:02:41,041 --> 01:02:43,008
[Kelly] There's a beer
trailer out there.
1633
01:02:43,043 --> 01:02:44,259
I don't know--
did you see that?
1634
01:02:44,294 --> 01:02:45,844
It's--I--people are
pre-partying
1635
01:02:45,879 --> 01:02:47,179
at the presidential debate.
1636
01:02:47,214 --> 01:02:49,014
Who gets drunk
at the presidential debate?
1637
01:02:49,049 --> 01:02:50,832
[McKinnon]
Everybody but us, I guess.
1638
01:02:50,851 --> 01:02:52,050
It's like a tailgate
out there.
1639
01:02:52,102 --> 01:02:54,269
What are we,
like, a couple of losers?
1640
01:02:54,304 --> 01:02:55,937
It's hard to imagine
that nothing's gonna happen
1641
01:02:55,973 --> 01:02:57,172
in this debate, right,
that people are gonna go,
1642
01:02:57,191 --> 01:02:58,356
"Oh, that was a dud."
1643
01:02:58,392 --> 01:02:59,340
But it could happen,
I guess.
1644
01:02:59,359 --> 01:03:00,892
I don't know.
1645
01:03:00,944 --> 01:03:02,527
Here's the reason why
I question that just a little.
1646
01:03:02,563 --> 01:03:04,312
When I asked him
that first question
1647
01:03:04,347 --> 01:03:06,731
at the first presidential debate
Fox News hosted about the women.
1648
01:03:06,784 --> 01:03:08,283
You've called women
you don't like
1649
01:03:08,318 --> 01:03:11,787
"fat pigs," "dogs," "slobs"...
1650
01:03:11,822 --> 01:03:13,321
Trump thought he could
dismiss it with a laugh
1651
01:03:13,356 --> 01:03:14,706
about Rosie O'Donnell.
1652
01:03:14,741 --> 01:03:16,208
- Right.
- And I kept pressing.
1653
01:03:16,243 --> 01:03:17,793
And that's when he got mad.
1654
01:03:17,828 --> 01:03:19,744
If you don't like it,
I'm sorry.
1655
01:03:19,797 --> 01:03:21,713
I've been very nice to you,
although I could probably
1656
01:03:21,748 --> 01:03:24,249
maybe not be based on the way
you have treated me.
1657
01:03:24,301 --> 01:03:26,084
And I know he's been told
by everybody
1658
01:03:26,136 --> 01:03:28,369
to keep it together
and not let her bait him.
1659
01:03:28,388 --> 01:03:29,721
And Trump's not stupid.
1660
01:03:29,756 --> 01:03:30,839
- You know, I mean...
- Yeah, yeah.
1661
01:03:30,874 --> 01:03:32,474
He wants this.
He likes to win.
1662
01:03:32,509 --> 01:03:33,508
So that's if it could be...
1663
01:03:33,543 --> 01:03:34,509
So if he--if he's convinced
1664
01:03:34,544 --> 01:03:36,144
that that's the way to win,
1665
01:03:36,180 --> 01:03:38,096
I mean, I think he can keep
his powder dry for 90 minutes.
1666
01:03:38,148 --> 01:03:39,981
And if he does,
it might be boring.
1667
01:03:40,017 --> 01:03:42,267
- Either way, we're gonna win...
- Yeah.
1668
01:03:42,319 --> 01:03:44,019
...'cause boring
or electric...
1669
01:03:44,054 --> 01:03:45,770
There's gonna be
a lot of people watching.
1670
01:03:45,823 --> 01:03:47,388
- Everyone's gonna watch.
- You're right. Yes.
1671
01:03:47,407 --> 01:03:48,740
He's gonna give us
a ton of stuff to talk about.
1672
01:03:48,775 --> 01:03:50,242
And if it's electric,
so much the better
1673
01:03:50,277 --> 01:03:52,494
'cause that'll keep us
fueled for weeks.
1674
01:03:52,529 --> 01:03:54,279
[Trump] We have so many things
1675
01:03:54,331 --> 01:03:55,280
that we have to do better,
Lester.
1676
01:03:55,332 --> 01:03:57,115
We have no leadership.
1677
01:03:57,167 --> 01:03:59,784
And honestly, that starts
with Secretary Clinton.
1678
01:03:59,837 --> 01:04:02,237
I have a feeling,
by the end of this evening,
1679
01:04:02,256 --> 01:04:04,122
I'm to be blamed for everything
that's ever happened.
1680
01:04:04,174 --> 01:04:05,006
Why not?
1681
01:04:05,042 --> 01:04:06,341
Why not? Yeah.
1682
01:04:06,376 --> 01:04:08,760
- [laughter]
- [Clinton] Why not?
1683
01:04:08,795 --> 01:04:10,512
[Trump] I've been
all over the place.
1684
01:04:10,547 --> 01:04:12,347
You decided to stay home,
and that's okay.
1685
01:04:12,382 --> 01:04:14,582
I think Donald
just criticized me
1686
01:04:14,601 --> 01:04:17,252
for preparing for this debate.
1687
01:04:17,271 --> 01:04:19,054
And you know what else
I prepared for?
1688
01:04:19,089 --> 01:04:20,755
I prepared to be president,
1689
01:04:20,774 --> 01:04:22,023
and I think that's
a good thing.
1690
01:04:22,059 --> 01:04:23,859
[applause]
1691
01:04:23,894 --> 01:04:25,861
[Holt] Mr. Trump, this year,
Secretary Clinton became
1692
01:04:25,896 --> 01:04:28,563
the first woman nominated
for president by a major party.
1693
01:04:28,598 --> 01:04:30,815
Earlier this month, you said
she doesn't have
1694
01:04:30,868 --> 01:04:33,451
"a presidential look."
What did you mean by that?
1695
01:04:33,487 --> 01:04:34,769
[Trump] Uh,
she doesn't have the look.
1696
01:04:34,788 --> 01:04:37,155
She doesn't have
the stamina.
1697
01:04:37,207 --> 01:04:40,158
[Clinton] This is a man
who has called women
1698
01:04:40,210 --> 01:04:43,795
"pigs," "slobs," and "dogs."
1699
01:04:43,830 --> 01:04:46,665
One of the worst things
he said was about
1700
01:04:46,717 --> 01:04:49,334
a woman in a beauty contest.
1701
01:04:49,386 --> 01:04:52,337
He called this woman
"Miss Piggy,"
1702
01:04:52,389 --> 01:04:55,340
then he called her
"Miss Housekeeping"
1703
01:04:55,392 --> 01:04:57,342
because she was Latina.
1704
01:04:57,394 --> 01:04:59,261
- Donald, she has a name.
- [Trump] Where did you find--
1705
01:04:59,296 --> 01:05:02,514
- Her name is Alicia Machado.
- Where did you find this?
1706
01:05:02,566 --> 01:05:04,015
- Where did you find it?
- And she has become
1707
01:05:04,067 --> 01:05:05,901
a U.S. citizen
and you can bet...
1708
01:05:05,936 --> 01:05:08,403
- [Trump] Oh, really?
- ...she's going to vote
1709
01:05:08,438 --> 01:05:10,405
- this November.
- [Trump] Okay, good.
1710
01:05:10,440 --> 01:05:12,574
[Holt] All right, well,
that is going to do it for us.
1711
01:05:12,609 --> 01:05:14,826
That concludes our debate
for this evening.
1712
01:05:14,861 --> 01:05:16,244
[applause]
1713
01:05:16,280 --> 01:05:18,163
That debate did not want
for electric moments.
1714
01:05:18,198 --> 01:05:19,814
That's for sure, Bret.
1715
01:05:19,833 --> 01:05:21,983
There's no--no one,
I believe, will judge this
1716
01:05:22,002 --> 01:05:23,535
as having been a loss
for Hillary Clinton.
1717
01:05:23,587 --> 01:05:25,987
This was clearly Hillary Clinton
on the attack,
1718
01:05:26,006 --> 01:05:28,340
issue after issue after issue.
1719
01:05:28,375 --> 01:05:30,425
She certainly
looked more presidential.
1720
01:05:30,460 --> 01:05:32,994
She showed much more
of a mastery of issues.
1721
01:05:33,013 --> 01:05:34,879
I think everybody
pretty much agrees
1722
01:05:34,932 --> 01:05:36,431
that Trump was just awful.
1723
01:05:36,466 --> 01:05:37,766
[Halperin] Follow me.
1724
01:05:37,801 --> 01:05:39,601
♪ pensive music ♪
1725
01:05:39,636 --> 01:05:40,769
Mr. Trump.
1726
01:05:40,804 --> 01:05:42,554
Mr. Trump.
How are you, sir?
1727
01:05:42,606 --> 01:05:43,772
Congratulations
on getting through
1728
01:05:43,807 --> 01:05:45,473
your first
presidential debate.
1729
01:05:45,508 --> 01:05:47,342
- I liked it.
- What'd you--what'd you think?
1730
01:05:47,361 --> 01:05:49,277
I thought it was great.
I really enjoyed it.
1731
01:05:49,313 --> 01:05:51,029
It's about making America
great again.
1732
01:05:51,064 --> 01:05:52,680
So I think it came out
very good, Mark.
1733
01:05:52,699 --> 01:05:54,232
Of the objectives you had
going in tonight,
1734
01:05:54,284 --> 01:05:55,617
which ones did you achieve?
1735
01:05:55,652 --> 01:05:56,618
Which ones did you fail
to achieve?
1736
01:05:56,653 --> 01:05:58,036
I think I achieved.
1737
01:05:58,071 --> 01:05:59,738
I mean, I'm looking
at all the online polls,
1738
01:05:59,790 --> 01:06:01,406
and we're doing very well.
1739
01:06:01,458 --> 01:06:03,792
We're really doing well.
Um, I think I achieved.
1740
01:06:03,827 --> 01:06:05,877
Now people are talking about
how you did, how she did.
1741
01:06:05,912 --> 01:06:08,380
What do you think the proper
role for the media is now
1742
01:06:08,415 --> 01:06:09,714
at this point,
and what will the role be?
1743
01:06:09,750 --> 01:06:11,383
All I wish the media would be
is fair.
1744
01:06:11,418 --> 01:06:13,218
Uh, you know, everyone's
saying I won the debate.
1745
01:06:13,253 --> 01:06:15,536
But hones--
I just want them to be fair.
1746
01:06:15,555 --> 01:06:17,172
That includes you.
1747
01:06:17,207 --> 01:06:19,341
[reporters all talking at once]
1748
01:06:19,376 --> 01:06:21,142
Hey, John,
throw it back to you.
1749
01:06:21,178 --> 01:06:22,727
Uh, Donald Trump continues
to walk the line,
1750
01:06:22,763 --> 01:06:25,380
and we're gonna go
chase after him.
1751
01:06:25,399 --> 01:06:28,316
[woman] Did he say, "Everyone
is saying I won the debate"?
1752
01:06:28,352 --> 01:06:30,068
[man] Well done, brother.
1753
01:06:30,103 --> 01:06:32,387
[crowd cheering]
1754
01:06:32,406 --> 01:06:34,572
an] Let me ask you a question.
1755
01:06:34,608 --> 01:06:37,609
Who thinks Trump won
the debate last night?
1756
01:06:37,661 --> 01:06:40,612
[crowd cheering]
1757
01:06:40,664 --> 01:06:43,615
♪ brooding music ♪
1758
01:06:43,667 --> 01:06:48,670
♪
1759
01:06:52,292 --> 01:06:55,760
[Trump]
Last night was very exciting.
1760
01:06:55,796 --> 01:07:00,415
Winning the debate against
crooked Hillary Clinton,
1761
01:07:00,434 --> 01:07:01,766
big league.
1762
01:07:01,802 --> 01:07:03,018
Big league.
1763
01:07:03,053 --> 01:07:04,853
[crowd cheering]
1764
01:07:04,888 --> 01:07:08,556
The single weapon
that she's got is the media.
1765
01:07:08,591 --> 01:07:11,693
Without the mainstream media,
1766
01:07:11,728 --> 01:07:13,528
she wouldn't even
be here, folks.
1767
01:07:13,563 --> 01:07:16,314
That I can tell you.
She wouldn't even be here.
1768
01:07:16,366 --> 01:07:19,367
[crowd cheering]
1769
01:07:21,204 --> 01:07:25,206
♪
1770
01:07:25,242 --> 01:07:27,208
[Tapper] There is
some breaking news right now.
1771
01:07:27,244 --> 01:07:29,294
David Fahrenthold
of The Washington Post
1772
01:07:29,329 --> 01:07:33,298
got his hands on a tape,
uh, from 2005
1773
01:07:33,333 --> 01:07:35,166
of Donald Trump.
1774
01:07:35,202 --> 01:07:37,235
[Trump] Took her out
furniture shopping.
1775
01:07:37,270 --> 01:07:39,204
She wanted to get
some furniture.
1776
01:07:39,239 --> 01:07:40,739
I said, "I'll show you where
they have some nice furniture."
1777
01:07:42,509 --> 01:07:43,341
[man] Whoa.
1778
01:07:44,678 --> 01:07:45,643
[man] That's huge news here.
1779
01:07:49,966 --> 01:07:51,599
[man laughing]
1780
01:07:55,021 --> 01:07:56,020
[Bush] Whatever you want.
1781
01:07:57,357 --> 01:07:58,606
[Bush snickering]
1782
01:08:00,827 --> 01:08:03,144
The Trump campaign
was already in free fall.
1783
01:08:03,163 --> 01:08:04,696
Ever since the last debate,
it's been
1784
01:08:04,748 --> 01:08:06,698
one self-inflicted wound
after another.
1785
01:08:06,750 --> 01:08:08,616
But this really takes it
to another level.
1786
01:08:08,651 --> 01:08:11,836
The worst October surprise
1787
01:08:11,872 --> 01:08:14,539
that any campaign
has ever suffered.
1788
01:08:14,591 --> 01:08:17,425
♪ pensive rousing music ♪
1789
01:08:17,461 --> 01:08:19,094
♪
1790
01:08:19,129 --> 01:08:20,879
[man] I think there's
an acknowledgement
1791
01:08:20,931 --> 01:08:22,797
inside the Trump campaign
that they don't know
1792
01:08:22,832 --> 01:08:24,766
how their candidate
can survive this.
1793
01:08:24,801 --> 01:08:27,936
[man] They're in DEFCON 2
right now.
1794
01:08:27,971 --> 01:08:30,188
I've never said
I'm a perfect person
1795
01:08:30,223 --> 01:08:33,024
nor pretended to be
someone that I'm not.
1796
01:08:33,059 --> 01:08:35,026
I've said and done things
I regret.
1797
01:08:35,061 --> 01:08:36,694
And the words released today
1798
01:08:36,730 --> 01:08:40,231
on this more-than-a-decade-old
video are one of them.
1799
01:08:40,283 --> 01:08:41,733
Anyone who knows me
1800
01:08:41,785 --> 01:08:45,236
knows these words
don't reflect who I am.
1801
01:08:45,288 --> 01:08:47,522
I said it,
I was wrong,
1802
01:08:47,541 --> 01:08:49,440
and I apologize.
1803
01:08:49,476 --> 01:08:51,376
I've said some foolish things,
1804
01:08:51,411 --> 01:08:52,911
but there's a big difference
1805
01:08:52,963 --> 01:08:56,030
between the words
and actions of other people.
1806
01:08:56,049 --> 01:08:58,583
Bill Clinton
has actually abused women
1807
01:08:58,635 --> 01:09:00,919
and Hillary has
bullied, attacked,
1808
01:09:00,971 --> 01:09:03,388
shamed, and intimidated
his victims.
1809
01:09:03,423 --> 01:09:05,039
That wasn't an apology.
1810
01:09:05,058 --> 01:09:06,841
That was like
the Pee-wee Herman defense:
1811
01:09:06,876 --> 01:09:08,726
"I know you are,
but what am I?"
1812
01:09:08,762 --> 01:09:11,012
[man] The party right now
is "flipping out."
1813
01:09:11,047 --> 01:09:13,314
[woman] A growing list
of congressional Republicans
1814
01:09:13,350 --> 01:09:15,216
withdrawing support.
1815
01:09:15,235 --> 01:09:17,769
Some are demanding that Trump
drop out of the race.
1816
01:09:17,821 --> 01:09:20,688
♪ dark music ♪
1817
01:09:20,723 --> 01:09:22,273
[woman] He's indicated
in the past,
1818
01:09:22,325 --> 01:09:24,325
"If the Republican Party
is not with me,
1819
01:09:24,361 --> 01:09:25,860
then they're against me."
1820
01:09:25,895 --> 01:09:27,895
And his base of support
is with him on that.
1821
01:09:27,914 --> 01:09:28,913
[man] Go ahead!
1822
01:09:34,337 --> 01:09:38,673
[crowd chanting]
USA! USA! USA! USA!
1823
01:09:38,708 --> 01:09:40,208
[man] On Twitter,
Trump said,
1824
01:09:40,243 --> 01:09:42,327
"I will never
drop out of the race.
1825
01:09:42,362 --> 01:09:44,796
Will never let
my supporters down."
1826
01:09:44,831 --> 01:09:46,681
[instrument blowing]
1827
01:09:46,716 --> 01:09:50,885
[woman] Whoo!
Donald J. Trump!
1828
01:09:50,920 --> 01:09:54,806
[crowd shouting]
1829
01:09:54,858 --> 01:09:57,642
We will discuss this more
in the coming days.
1830
01:09:57,694 --> 01:09:59,944
See you at the debate
on Sunday.
1831
01:09:59,980 --> 01:10:04,949
♪
1832
01:10:04,985 --> 01:10:06,618
[indistinct chatter]
1833
01:10:06,653 --> 01:10:07,902
[McKinnon] Are we--
are we rolling?
1834
01:10:09,539 --> 01:10:11,155
[Blitzer] Just getting in
some videotape.
1835
01:10:11,208 --> 01:10:13,041
Uh, look at this.
1836
01:10:13,076 --> 01:10:15,994
These are women who have
made very strong accusations
1837
01:10:16,046 --> 01:10:18,296
against Bill Clinton.
1838
01:10:18,331 --> 01:10:19,797
There you see in the middle
of your screen Donald Trump...
1839
01:10:19,833 --> 01:10:23,551
Mr. Trump may have
said some bad words,
1840
01:10:23,587 --> 01:10:26,120
but Bill Clinton raped me.
1841
01:10:26,139 --> 01:10:27,788
And Hillary Clinton
threatened me.
1842
01:10:27,807 --> 01:10:29,140
[camera shutters clicking]
1843
01:10:29,175 --> 01:10:30,642
Donald Trump has just
put his finger
1844
01:10:30,677 --> 01:10:32,510
on the nuclear button
and pressed it.
1845
01:10:32,562 --> 01:10:35,513
♪ brooding string music ♪
1846
01:10:35,565 --> 01:10:39,734
♪
1847
01:10:39,769 --> 01:10:41,236
[Cooper] Mr. Trump,
you bragged that
1848
01:10:41,271 --> 01:10:42,854
you have
sexually assaulted women.
1849
01:10:42,906 --> 01:10:44,138
Do you understand that?
1850
01:10:44,157 --> 01:10:45,907
No, I didn't say that at all.
1851
01:10:45,942 --> 01:10:47,692
I don't think you
understood what was said.
1852
01:10:47,744 --> 01:10:49,193
This was locker room talk.
1853
01:10:49,246 --> 01:10:51,029
Uh, I'm not proud of it.
1854
01:10:51,081 --> 01:10:52,914
I apologized to my family.
1855
01:10:52,949 --> 01:10:54,499
I have tremendous respect
for women.
1856
01:10:54,534 --> 01:10:55,700
[Cooper] Have you ever
done those things?
1857
01:10:55,752 --> 01:10:57,085
And women have respect for me.
1858
01:10:57,120 --> 01:10:58,986
And I will tell you--
no, I have not.
1859
01:10:59,005 --> 01:11:01,422
♪
1860
01:11:01,458 --> 01:11:03,091
If guys are gonna say
they don't talk like that,
1861
01:11:03,126 --> 01:11:04,676
they're lying.
1862
01:11:04,711 --> 01:11:06,594
Did you ever get a group
of women ar--together?
1863
01:11:06,630 --> 01:11:07,929
They're worse than the men.
1864
01:11:07,964 --> 01:11:09,714
♪
1865
01:11:09,766 --> 01:11:12,100
[man] He had the power.
He has the prestige.
1866
01:11:12,135 --> 01:11:14,218
Why wouldn't you take
a little advantage?
1867
01:11:14,271 --> 01:11:15,803
♪
1868
01:11:15,838 --> 01:11:17,855
[woman]
I'm not voting for the pope.
1869
01:11:17,891 --> 01:11:21,342
I don't care
what he said 11 years ago.
1870
01:11:21,361 --> 01:11:24,245
♪
1871
01:11:24,281 --> 01:11:25,813
[man] Claims that he
inappropriately
1872
01:11:25,848 --> 01:11:27,682
touched two women
in the past...
1873
01:11:27,701 --> 01:11:29,233
[woman] And his hands
started going up my skirt.
1874
01:11:29,286 --> 01:11:31,035
[woman] He just came
strolling right in.
1875
01:11:31,071 --> 01:11:32,870
Some girls were topless.
Other girls were naked.
1876
01:11:32,906 --> 01:11:34,956
[woman] A ninth woman
is now accusing Donald Trump
1877
01:11:34,991 --> 01:11:36,291
of sexual misconduct.
1878
01:11:36,326 --> 01:11:37,775
He gave me another embrace
and did
1879
01:11:37,811 --> 01:11:40,795
touch my vagina
through my underwear.
1880
01:11:40,830 --> 01:11:43,815
These vicious claims
1881
01:11:43,850 --> 01:11:45,883
about me
1882
01:11:45,919 --> 01:11:49,671
are totally
and absolutely false.
1883
01:11:49,706 --> 01:11:52,707
[crowd cheering]
1884
01:11:52,726 --> 01:11:55,476
They're taking
these unsubstantiated--
1885
01:11:55,512 --> 01:11:59,731
no witnesses--putting them on
the front pages of newspapers!
1886
01:11:59,766 --> 01:12:01,349
They're outright lies.
1887
01:12:01,384 --> 01:12:03,217
[crowd cheering]
1888
01:12:03,236 --> 01:12:05,320
[woman] She's got
the whole media behind her.
1889
01:12:05,355 --> 01:12:07,071
Everything's a setup.
1890
01:12:07,107 --> 01:12:09,824
[woman] This is about
the liberal media
1891
01:12:09,859 --> 01:12:13,111
trying to keep Trump
from becoming president.
1892
01:12:13,163 --> 01:12:15,196
Anyone who challenges
their control
1893
01:12:15,231 --> 01:12:16,781
is deemed a sexist,
1894
01:12:16,833 --> 01:12:19,617
a racist, a xenophobe.
1895
01:12:19,669 --> 01:12:22,286
Things that come out of Donald
Trump's mouth are disgusting.
1896
01:12:22,339 --> 01:12:23,421
They will attack you.
1897
01:12:23,456 --> 01:12:24,589
Deplorable and awful.
1898
01:12:24,624 --> 01:12:25,906
They will slander you.
1899
01:12:25,925 --> 01:12:27,375
- Creepy.
- They will lie.
1900
01:12:27,410 --> 01:12:28,876
Donald Trump is going
to lose this election.
1901
01:12:28,911 --> 01:12:30,628
- Lie.
- The race is over.
1902
01:12:30,680 --> 01:12:33,014
They're horrible,
horrible liars.
1903
01:12:33,049 --> 01:12:34,716
[crowd cheering]
1904
01:12:34,751 --> 01:12:37,084
It's a rigged system.
It's a rigged election.
1905
01:12:37,103 --> 01:12:40,188
It's not coincidence
that these attacks
1906
01:12:40,223 --> 01:12:43,358
come at the exact same moment
1907
01:12:43,393 --> 01:12:46,778
as WikiLeaks
releases documents
1908
01:12:46,813 --> 01:12:51,115
exposing the massive
international corruption
1909
01:12:51,151 --> 01:12:52,984
of the Clinton machine.
1910
01:12:53,036 --> 01:12:57,989
[crowd chanting] Lock her up!
Lock her up! Lock her up!
1911
01:12:58,041 --> 01:13:01,942
Lock her up! Lock her up!
1912
01:13:01,961 --> 01:13:04,379
So true.
1913
01:13:04,414 --> 01:13:06,297
♪ dramatic music ♪
1914
01:13:06,332 --> 01:13:07,882
[woman] The Clinton
presidential campaign
1915
01:13:07,917 --> 01:13:09,801
is facing more problems
over emails today...
1916
01:13:09,836 --> 01:13:11,836
[woman] A steady stream
of leaked emails
1917
01:13:11,888 --> 01:13:13,120
keep coming from WikiLeaks.
1918
01:13:13,139 --> 01:13:14,789
U.S. intelligence officials say
1919
01:13:14,808 --> 01:13:16,674
the hacks came from Russia.
1920
01:13:16,726 --> 01:13:19,143
[Clinton] What's really
important about WikiLeaks
1921
01:13:19,179 --> 01:13:21,562
is that the Russian government
1922
01:13:21,598 --> 01:13:25,900
has engaged in espionage
against Americans
1923
01:13:25,935 --> 01:13:28,736
in an effort
to influence our election.
1924
01:13:28,772 --> 01:13:30,354
Look, Putin...
[Chris Wallace] Oh, but-wait--
1925
01:13:30,407 --> 01:13:31,823
[Trump]
...from everything I see,
1926
01:13:31,858 --> 01:13:35,493
has no respect
for this person.
1927
01:13:35,528 --> 01:13:37,144
Well, that's because
he'd rather have a puppet
1928
01:13:37,163 --> 01:13:38,145
as president of
the United States.
1929
01:13:38,164 --> 01:13:39,997
No puppet.
No puppet.
1930
01:13:40,033 --> 01:13:41,999
- And it's pretty clear--
- You're the puppet.
1931
01:13:42,035 --> 01:13:43,984
[Clinton] It's pretty clear
you won't admit that...
1932
01:13:44,003 --> 01:13:45,787
[Trump] No, you're the puppet.
..the Russians have engaged
1933
01:13:45,822 --> 01:13:48,423
in cyber attacks against
the United States of America
1934
01:13:48,458 --> 01:13:52,376
because he has a very clear
favorite in this race.
1935
01:13:52,429 --> 01:13:54,796
[Wallace] Mr. Trump,
you have been warning
1936
01:13:54,831 --> 01:13:58,516
at rallies recently
that this election is rigged.
1937
01:13:58,551 --> 01:14:01,001
Do you make the commitment
that you will absolutely--
1938
01:14:01,020 --> 01:14:03,721
sir--that you will
absolutely accept
1939
01:14:03,773 --> 01:14:04,972
the result of this election?
1940
01:14:05,007 --> 01:14:06,674
I will look at it at the time.
1941
01:14:06,693 --> 01:14:08,559
- [man groans]
- [Wallace] Are you saying
1942
01:14:08,611 --> 01:14:10,812
you're not prepared now
to commit to that principle?
1943
01:14:10,847 --> 01:14:12,613
What I'm saying is that
I will tell you at the time.
1944
01:14:12,649 --> 01:14:14,565
I'll keep you in suspense.
1945
01:14:14,617 --> 01:14:16,534
[Nicole Wallace] It is
a disqualifying comment to say
1946
01:14:16,569 --> 01:14:18,903
you will not accept the results
of American democracy,
1947
01:14:18,955 --> 01:14:21,405
the beacon of democracy
the world over.
1948
01:14:21,458 --> 01:14:22,824
Lights-out moment for him.
1949
01:14:22,859 --> 01:14:25,076
This is very sad night
for the country.
1950
01:14:25,128 --> 01:14:27,962
Um, you can't polish this turd.
1951
01:14:27,997 --> 01:14:30,047
[indistinct chatter]
1952
01:14:30,083 --> 01:14:30,882
There's Kellyanne.
1953
01:14:30,917 --> 01:14:32,199
How's it going?
1954
01:14:32,218 --> 01:14:34,368
Oh, great!
How are you?
1955
01:14:34,387 --> 01:14:35,670
Was that the answer he was
1956
01:14:35,705 --> 01:14:37,972
supposed to give
on that question?
1957
01:14:38,007 --> 01:14:39,590
He had a lot
of great answers tonight.
1958
01:14:39,642 --> 01:14:41,142
That one that everybody's
paying attention to.
1959
01:14:41,177 --> 01:14:42,760
- When--and he said--
- Why-why--how does that happen?
1960
01:14:42,812 --> 01:14:44,095
I'm just curious,
'cause I'm not a reporter.
1961
01:14:44,147 --> 01:14:45,396
- [sighs]
- How does it happen that
1962
01:14:45,431 --> 01:14:46,981
everybody hears
the same 90-minute debate
1963
01:14:47,016 --> 01:14:48,850
and everybody obsesses
over the one thing he says--
1964
01:14:48,885 --> 01:14:50,151
Because we've never had
a major party nominee
1965
01:14:50,186 --> 01:14:51,569
who says, "I may not
accept the results."
1966
01:14:51,604 --> 01:14:52,937
Well, sure you did.
You had Al Gore.
1967
01:14:52,989 --> 01:14:54,739
That was after the election.
1968
01:14:54,774 --> 01:14:56,274
Well, but that's--maybe
that's his entire point, Mark.
1969
01:14:56,326 --> 01:14:58,493
But earlier today, you,
Mike Pence, and Ivanka Trump
1970
01:14:58,528 --> 01:15:00,745
all said, "Of course
he'll accept the results."
1971
01:15:00,780 --> 01:15:02,079
So that's different
than the answer he gave.
1972
01:15:02,115 --> 01:15:05,333
We all said
absent widespread irregularities
1973
01:15:05,368 --> 01:15:06,951
or evidence of fraud or abuse.
1974
01:15:07,003 --> 01:15:09,287
[indistinct chatter]
1975
01:15:09,339 --> 01:15:10,621
And rolling now.
1976
01:15:10,673 --> 01:15:12,290
♪ pensive music ♪
1977
01:15:12,342 --> 01:15:14,342
We all agreed he had
to do something big tonight.
1978
01:15:14,377 --> 01:15:15,343
Does anybody here
think he did that?
1979
01:15:15,378 --> 01:15:16,761
No.
1980
01:15:16,796 --> 01:15:18,429
I think, if anything,
just the opposite.
1981
01:15:18,464 --> 01:15:20,181
The WikiLeaks disclosures
from the Podesta emails
1982
01:15:20,216 --> 01:15:21,716
have been going around now
for over a week.
1983
01:15:21,751 --> 01:15:23,184
And we still don't know--
1984
01:15:23,219 --> 01:15:24,468
and there's mixed opinion
about this--
1985
01:15:24,521 --> 01:15:26,020
the people who are
releasing these,
1986
01:15:26,055 --> 01:15:28,222
trying to win the election
for Trump
1987
01:15:28,257 --> 01:15:29,941
or they're just trying
to create chaos.
1988
01:15:29,976 --> 01:15:31,475
[Heilemann]
Yeah, chaos and discord.
1989
01:15:31,528 --> 01:15:33,394
The irony is, if the election
is undermined,
1990
01:15:33,429 --> 01:15:36,030
at this point, the chances
are more--are better
1991
01:15:36,065 --> 01:15:38,115
that it's by Russia
than by anybody else.
1992
01:15:38,151 --> 01:15:39,317
[laughs]
1993
01:15:39,369 --> 01:15:42,320
♪ soft suspenseful music ♪
1994
01:15:42,372 --> 01:15:46,908
♪
1995
01:15:48,578 --> 01:15:51,162
[Heilemann] So Donald Trump,
last night,
1996
01:15:51,214 --> 01:15:52,630
he-he brought up
a number of things
1997
01:15:52,665 --> 01:15:54,799
that have been revealed
by the WikiLeaks,
1998
01:15:54,834 --> 01:15:56,717
uh, email hacking.
1999
01:15:56,753 --> 01:15:57,752
Yes. Yes.
2000
01:15:57,787 --> 01:15:59,620
You, Roger Stone, have said,
2001
01:15:59,639 --> 01:16:01,639
I believe, on multiple
occasions publicly,
2002
01:16:01,674 --> 01:16:03,975
that you have back channel
to Assange.
2003
01:16:04,010 --> 01:16:05,343
- Correct?
- Mm-hmm.
2004
01:16:05,395 --> 01:16:07,345
We just happen to have
a mutual friend who--
2005
01:16:07,397 --> 01:16:08,512
You "happen to have"
a mutual friend?
2006
01:16:08,565 --> 01:16:09,897
Yes, who supported Assange
2007
01:16:09,933 --> 01:16:11,298
and has some connection to him.
2008
01:16:11,317 --> 01:16:13,317
But how aware of all this
is Trump?
2009
01:16:13,353 --> 01:16:14,652
Have you discussed
WikiLeaks with him?
2010
01:16:14,687 --> 01:16:16,354
- I have not.
- Not once?
2011
01:16:16,406 --> 01:16:17,805
- Not once.
- Never?
2012
01:16:17,824 --> 01:16:19,306
In any of your private
conversations, not once?
2013
01:16:19,325 --> 01:16:20,741
- Not once. Not once.
- You have no idea.
2014
01:16:20,777 --> 01:16:22,193
So the U.S.
intelligence community
2015
01:16:22,245 --> 01:16:24,495
"is confident that
the Russian government
2016
01:16:24,530 --> 01:16:27,164
directed the recent
compromises of emails
2017
01:16:27,200 --> 01:16:28,749
from U.S. persons
and institutions,
2018
01:16:28,785 --> 01:16:30,918
including from U.S.
political organizations."
2019
01:16:30,954 --> 01:16:32,336
- So I--
- Show us the proof.
2020
01:16:32,372 --> 01:16:33,287
You don't believe it?
2021
01:16:33,322 --> 01:16:34,205
No, I don't believe it.
2022
01:16:34,257 --> 01:16:36,457
Why does Donald Trump
2023
01:16:36,492 --> 01:16:38,175
suck up to Putin so much?
2024
01:16:38,211 --> 01:16:39,377
Because he favors a period--
2025
01:16:39,429 --> 01:16:40,678
Why does he do--
why does he do that?
2026
01:16:40,713 --> 01:16:42,797
Because he favors
a period of détente.
2027
01:16:42,832 --> 01:16:46,017
If Nixon and Brezhnev
can make a deal,
2028
01:16:46,052 --> 01:16:48,135
then perhaps Trump
and Putin can make a deal
2029
01:16:48,170 --> 01:16:49,770
You-your view
is that American voters,
2030
01:16:49,806 --> 01:16:51,472
when Trump sucks up to Putin,
2031
01:16:51,507 --> 01:16:53,140
they think, "Yeah, we like that.
That's good."
2032
01:16:53,175 --> 01:16:56,110
I think they like
peace over war.
2033
01:16:56,145 --> 01:16:57,778
So Trump is not only
the candidate
2034
01:16:57,814 --> 01:17:00,815
of the silent majority,
the forgotten Americans,
2035
01:17:00,850 --> 01:17:02,533
the candidate of law and order,
2036
01:17:02,568 --> 01:17:06,020
but he is also
the candidate of peace.
2037
01:17:06,039 --> 01:17:08,039
So at this moment,
it's October 20th...
2038
01:17:08,074 --> 01:17:09,874
Yes.
2039
01:17:09,909 --> 01:17:11,859
What needs to happen for
Donald Trump to be president?
2040
01:17:11,878 --> 01:17:14,161
I would concede
that, in my belief,
2041
01:17:14,196 --> 01:17:17,248
Mrs. Clinton is probably
slightly ahead.
2042
01:17:17,300 --> 01:17:18,883
But Trump is Trump.
2043
01:17:18,918 --> 01:17:20,718
He's good in the clutch,
2044
01:17:20,753 --> 01:17:22,803
and he could still
eke this out
2045
01:17:22,839 --> 01:17:24,755
under the right sequence
of events.
2046
01:17:24,807 --> 01:17:26,424
Trump may need some brakes,
2047
01:17:26,476 --> 01:17:29,310
but to say that he's out of it?
2048
01:17:29,345 --> 01:17:30,645
Over?
Did you say over?
2049
01:17:30,680 --> 01:17:31,846
Right. Right.
2050
01:17:31,881 --> 01:17:35,099
Nothing's over
till we say it is.
2051
01:17:35,151 --> 01:17:36,317
Okay.
2052
01:17:36,352 --> 01:17:37,518
This has been excellent.
2053
01:17:37,553 --> 01:17:39,070
You'll edit out
all the good shit.
2054
01:17:39,105 --> 01:17:41,272
Come on, dude, you think
I'm in charge of that?
2055
01:17:41,324 --> 01:17:43,441
Some other liberal is.
2056
01:17:43,493 --> 01:17:44,909
For you, Roger,
2057
01:17:44,944 --> 01:17:46,694
fuckin' Attila the Hun
is liberal.
2058
01:17:46,729 --> 01:17:47,745
True.
2059
01:17:47,780 --> 01:17:49,830
♪ dramatic music ♪
2060
01:17:49,866 --> 01:17:51,499
[Blitzer] We've got
some breaking news
2061
01:17:51,534 --> 01:17:53,617
I want to bring
to our viewers right now.
2062
01:17:53,670 --> 01:17:56,954
A new possible investigation
by the FBI
2063
01:17:57,006 --> 01:17:58,956
into Hillary Clinton's emails.
2064
01:17:59,008 --> 01:18:01,025
[man] In a letter
to members of Congress,
2065
01:18:01,060 --> 01:18:03,694
Director Comey said the FBI
has learned
2066
01:18:03,730 --> 01:18:06,030
of the existence of emails
that appear
2067
01:18:06,065 --> 01:18:08,082
to be pertinent
to the investigation.
2068
01:18:08,101 --> 01:18:10,685
[camera shutters clicking]
2069
01:18:10,720 --> 01:18:12,887
The director himself has said
2070
01:18:12,922 --> 01:18:14,939
he doesn't know
whether the emails
2071
01:18:14,974 --> 01:18:16,774
referenced in his letter
2072
01:18:16,809 --> 01:18:18,559
are significant or not.
2073
01:18:18,594 --> 01:18:20,361
[Halperin] He has--
this is not the way
2074
01:18:20,396 --> 01:18:22,063
the Justice Department
is supposed to work.
2075
01:18:22,098 --> 01:18:24,065
This is a case of great
public interest, I get that.
2076
01:18:24,100 --> 01:18:25,983
But you're not supposed to be
2077
01:18:26,035 --> 01:18:27,535
trying cases in public
like this.
2078
01:18:27,570 --> 01:18:28,869
So irresponsible.
2079
01:18:28,905 --> 01:18:30,037
[Halperin] Eleven days
before the election.
2080
01:18:30,073 --> 01:18:31,489
[Heilemann] So irresponsible.
2081
01:18:31,541 --> 01:18:32,990
[Halperin]
The question to me now...
2082
01:18:33,042 --> 01:18:34,375
[exhales]
2083
01:18:34,410 --> 01:18:35,960
Just this morning,
I was saying that
2084
01:18:35,995 --> 01:18:37,461
it would take some
catastrophic external event
2085
01:18:37,497 --> 01:18:40,464
to change the trajectory
of this race.
2086
01:18:40,500 --> 01:18:42,666
This could be it.
2087
01:18:42,719 --> 01:18:45,636
[man] Republicans are going
to bludgeon her with this
2088
01:18:45,671 --> 01:18:47,138
over the next 11 days.
2089
01:18:47,173 --> 01:18:49,673
[Trump] As you know,
2090
01:18:49,726 --> 01:18:53,511
the FBI has reopened
its investigation
2091
01:18:53,563 --> 01:18:54,895
into Hillary Clinton.
2092
01:18:54,931 --> 01:18:57,098
[crowd cheering]
2093
01:18:57,133 --> 01:18:59,900
[crowd chanting]
2094
01:18:59,936 --> 01:19:02,937
[chanting continues]
2095
01:19:10,446 --> 01:19:14,615
♪ ambient music ♪
2096
01:19:14,650 --> 01:19:16,984
[Halperin] This is the last
Friday before Election Day.
2097
01:19:17,003 --> 01:19:19,420
And here we are
in the inner sanctum.
2098
01:19:19,455 --> 01:19:21,005
This it the Trump
campaign headquarters
2099
01:19:21,040 --> 01:19:23,040
in Trump Tower.
2100
01:19:23,092 --> 01:19:26,510
Roll on fuckin' everything.
2101
01:19:26,546 --> 01:19:28,746
Look, the rooms are named
after Trump properties.
2102
01:19:28,781 --> 01:19:31,331
♪ pensive music ♪
2103
01:19:31,350 --> 01:19:34,001
This seems more like
a quiet Manhattan law firm
2104
01:19:34,020 --> 01:19:37,955
than it does like
a bustling campaign.
2105
01:19:37,990 --> 01:19:39,690
Oh, look at this.
2106
01:19:39,725 --> 01:19:41,225
This is awesome.
2107
01:19:41,277 --> 01:19:42,860
This is a space
I've not been in.
2108
01:19:42,895 --> 01:19:44,562
I don't think very many
people have been in.
2109
01:19:44,614 --> 01:19:46,680
This is the entrance
to the residence of Trump Tower
2110
01:19:46,699 --> 01:19:48,566
so this is where
Mr. Trump comes in his lobby,
2111
01:19:48,618 --> 01:19:50,117
maybe gets the mail.
2112
01:19:50,153 --> 01:19:51,518
- Thank you, man.
- Hey, thank you very much.
2113
01:19:51,537 --> 01:19:52,570
- It's awesome.
- Hey, good to see you.
2114
01:19:52,622 --> 01:19:54,371
Really appreciate it.
Thank you.
2115
01:19:54,407 --> 01:19:55,623
Campaigns, they're always
gonna act upbeat.
2116
01:19:55,658 --> 01:19:57,741
The key is body language.
2117
01:19:57,794 --> 01:19:59,577
Frankly, everyone I talk to
in the Trump campaign
2118
01:19:59,629 --> 01:20:01,028
has a big smile on their face.
2119
01:20:01,047 --> 01:20:03,197
Is that 'cause
they have momentum
2120
01:20:03,216 --> 01:20:04,965
and they feel on the upswing?
2121
01:20:05,001 --> 01:20:06,467
Is it because they're bluffing?
2122
01:20:06,502 --> 01:20:07,868
I don't know.
2123
01:20:07,887 --> 01:20:08,803
So Robby Mook,
your counterpart...
2124
01:20:08,838 --> 01:20:10,537
Yes!
2125
01:20:10,556 --> 01:20:12,389
...says they're gonna win;
they can't lose.
2126
01:20:12,425 --> 01:20:14,091
We can't lose Florida.
We can't lose North Carolina.
2127
01:20:14,143 --> 01:20:15,759
- You say you're winning...
- We're winning.
2128
01:20:15,812 --> 01:20:17,144
..you're gonna win.
What's a boy to think?
2129
01:20:17,180 --> 01:20:18,646
I'm not sure that
they saw this coming.
2130
01:20:18,681 --> 01:20:20,848
Her not being able to get
Barack Obama-like levels
2131
01:20:20,883 --> 01:20:22,433
in these blue states.
2132
01:20:22,485 --> 01:20:25,019
Plus the fact that she is
under a cloud of corruption
2133
01:20:25,054 --> 01:20:27,938
and there's no evidence
that Americans who already
2134
01:20:27,990 --> 01:20:30,241
find her to be dishonest
and untrustworthy
2135
01:20:30,276 --> 01:20:31,909
are going to just
look past that.
2136
01:20:31,944 --> 01:20:33,944
You, uh, for the last week
have had the luxury
2137
01:20:33,996 --> 01:20:36,080
of mostly giving
your candidate good news.
2138
01:20:36,115 --> 01:20:37,498
- Yes.
- Is your job to keep
2139
01:20:37,533 --> 01:20:39,033
his spirits up
or to tell him the truth?
2140
01:20:39,068 --> 01:20:41,168
If you learn bad
early vote numbers or you get
2141
01:20:41,204 --> 01:20:42,586
a bad poll back, is your
job to tell him the truth...
2142
01:20:42,622 --> 01:20:43,787
- Always.
- ...or to keep his spirits up?
2143
01:20:43,840 --> 01:20:45,072
- Always.
- Always.
2144
01:20:45,091 --> 01:20:45,956
Well, both, I mean,
all of the above.
2145
01:20:47,126 --> 01:20:48,509
Does your-your campaign manager
2146
01:20:48,544 --> 01:20:50,344
do a good job, objectively?
2147
01:20:50,379 --> 01:20:51,795
- She's doing a great job.
- Does she give you bad news?
2148
01:20:51,848 --> 01:20:52,763
If something's bad,
will she say,
2149
01:20:52,798 --> 01:20:54,098
"I got to be honest with you"?
2150
01:20:54,133 --> 01:20:56,083
She only gives me--
only gives me good news.
2151
01:20:56,102 --> 01:21:01,055
♪
2152
01:21:07,780 --> 01:21:10,981
[man] Early polling shows
that this FBI disclosure
2153
01:21:11,033 --> 01:21:13,534
hasn't moved the race
in any significant way so far.
2154
01:21:13,569 --> 01:21:16,036
[woman] Clinton leading Trump
in all seven national polls.
2155
01:21:16,072 --> 01:21:18,455
[man] Advantage Clinton.
A steep hill for Donald Trump.
2156
01:21:18,491 --> 01:21:20,708
[man] Clinton's chances
of winning are 84%
2157
01:21:20,743 --> 01:21:22,660
versus Trump's 16%.
2158
01:21:22,712 --> 01:21:24,295
[man] She's got
an electoral college lock.
2159
01:21:24,330 --> 01:21:26,463
She is choking him out.
2160
01:21:26,499 --> 01:21:28,716
[Clinton] So I got to ask you,
are you ready?
2161
01:21:28,751 --> 01:21:30,417
[crowd cheering]
2162
01:21:30,452 --> 01:21:32,803
How many of you've
already voted?
2163
01:21:32,838 --> 01:21:34,922
[crowd cheering]
2164
01:21:37,626 --> 01:21:40,060
My final Sunday morning
television appearance
2165
01:21:40,096 --> 01:21:42,296
before Election Day
on Face the Nation.
2166
01:21:42,315 --> 01:21:44,464
Make some final sense
out of this
2167
01:21:44,483 --> 01:21:47,568
fucked-up, distressing,
depressing election.
2168
01:21:52,692 --> 01:21:53,824
[indistinct chatter]
2169
01:21:53,859 --> 01:21:55,659
[man] Are we rolling?
2170
01:21:55,695 --> 01:21:57,528
[man] David, there's
a film crew in here.
2171
01:21:57,580 --> 01:21:58,996
[Ignatius] I noticed that.
2172
01:21:59,031 --> 01:22:00,831
- Guys.
- [man] It's all very meta.
2173
01:22:00,866 --> 01:22:02,499
Two days to go.
2174
01:22:02,535 --> 01:22:03,500
[Heilemann] Who's gonna win
on Tuesday?
2175
01:22:03,536 --> 01:22:04,618
Clinton or Trump?
2176
01:22:04,653 --> 01:22:06,003
Uh, I...
2177
01:22:06,038 --> 01:22:07,838
Uh, Clinton narrowly.
2178
01:22:07,873 --> 01:22:09,123
"Clinton narrowly."
2179
01:22:09,158 --> 01:22:10,708
[Walter]
I still think Clinton.
2180
01:22:10,760 --> 01:22:12,376
Clinton narrowly.
2181
01:22:12,428 --> 01:22:13,794
Clinton modestly.
2182
01:22:13,829 --> 01:22:15,346
- As opposed to narrowly?
- [chuckling]
2183
01:22:15,381 --> 01:22:17,214
Is modestly--is modestly
bigger than narrowly or...
2184
01:22:17,266 --> 01:22:18,966
It's-it's-it's larger.
It's more like--
2185
01:22:19,001 --> 01:22:20,718
Did I say "biggerly"?
Think I said "biggerly."
2186
01:22:20,770 --> 01:22:22,386
Amy, how happy are you
this is gonna be over?
2187
01:22:22,438 --> 01:22:24,688
Or are you on the "I wish this
campaign would go on forever"?
2188
01:22:24,724 --> 01:22:26,557
[Walter] I never wish
a campaign would go on forever.
2189
01:22:26,609 --> 01:22:29,059
Two weeks from now,
2190
01:22:29,111 --> 01:22:31,011
we're gonna be
on to something else.
2191
01:22:31,030 --> 01:22:32,896
- [Ignatius] Yeah, I'm not...
- [Heilemann] Really?
2192
01:22:32,949 --> 01:22:34,365
[Ignatius] Donald Trump isn't
gonna be on to something else.
2193
01:22:34,400 --> 01:22:36,650
We're likely to have,
I'd guess,
2194
01:22:36,685 --> 01:22:39,519
a-a populist Republican Party
for a while.
2195
01:22:39,538 --> 01:22:41,372
Okay, I don't think it's just
a populist Republican Party.
2196
01:22:41,407 --> 01:22:44,458
I think it's a Republican Party
specifically focused on,
2197
01:22:44,493 --> 01:22:46,460
uh, white identity
as the organizing--
2198
01:22:46,495 --> 01:22:48,379
as the organizing thing.
2199
01:22:48,414 --> 01:22:49,997
[Heilemann] Having Barack Obama
as president for eight years
2200
01:22:50,032 --> 01:22:52,833
exposed the degree to which
there was submerged racism.
2201
01:22:52,868 --> 01:22:55,135
There was a whole bunch of stuff
that was seething out there
2202
01:22:55,171 --> 01:22:56,587
like in a David Lynch movie.
2203
01:22:56,639 --> 01:22:58,255
Like, just a--
like, the--like--
2204
01:22:58,307 --> 01:23:00,140
- like bugs in the grass, right?
- Right, right.
2205
01:23:00,176 --> 01:23:01,976
And all of a sudden it's kind of
now brought up to the surface.
2206
01:23:02,011 --> 01:23:04,762
My expectation is that this is
actually just the beginning
2207
01:23:04,814 --> 01:23:07,464
of a-a-a more seismic
change in our politics.
2208
01:23:07,500 --> 01:23:09,099
Sort of like "we are not even
on to the main course yet."
2209
01:23:09,151 --> 01:23:13,904
- Right, exactly.
- Fabulous. Great.
2210
01:23:13,939 --> 01:23:15,606
[man] And mic up, cue.
2211
01:23:15,658 --> 01:23:17,491
We're back now
with our politics panel.
2212
01:23:17,526 --> 01:23:19,743
John Heilemann, what's going on
in the race right now?
2213
01:23:19,779 --> 01:23:20,944
- [laughs]
- What is going on?
2214
01:23:20,997 --> 01:23:22,696
Well, it's almost over, John.
2215
01:23:22,731 --> 01:23:24,498
[Dickerson] One of the
challenges of this election
2216
01:23:24,533 --> 01:23:26,233
is that the smart people think
that they know what's going on,
2217
01:23:26,252 --> 01:23:28,285
and then Donald Trump has been
extremely successful
2218
01:23:28,337 --> 01:23:29,787
doing his thing.
2219
01:23:29,839 --> 01:23:31,255
So maybe Donald Trump
just knows something better.
2220
01:23:31,290 --> 01:23:33,924
Um, well, if that's true, um,
2221
01:23:33,959 --> 01:23:36,243
a lot of us are gonna have to,
uh, really check
2222
01:23:36,262 --> 01:23:38,095
a lot of our preconceptions
at the door.
2223
01:23:38,130 --> 01:23:40,214
But it's still the case that,
uh, Hillary Clinton
2224
01:23:40,249 --> 01:23:42,349
has never been behind
in this race.
2225
01:23:42,385 --> 01:23:43,600
[crowd cheering]
2226
01:23:43,636 --> 01:23:46,603
♪ upbeat ethereal music ♪
2227
01:23:46,639 --> 01:23:49,857
♪
2228
01:23:49,892 --> 01:23:52,309
[Clinton] Years from today,
2229
01:23:52,361 --> 01:23:57,281
when your kids and grandkids
ask what you did in 2016,
2230
01:23:57,316 --> 01:23:59,900
when everything
was on the line,
2231
01:23:59,935 --> 01:24:02,903
I want you
to be able to say
2232
01:24:02,938 --> 01:24:06,457
you voted for an inclusive,
big-hearted,
2233
01:24:06,492 --> 01:24:09,326
open-minded country.
2234
01:24:09,378 --> 01:24:13,797
Because I do believe
we are stronger together.
2235
01:24:13,833 --> 01:24:15,749
[crowd cheering]
2236
01:24:15,784 --> 01:24:18,736
♪ pensive music ♪
2237
01:24:18,771 --> 01:24:22,906
♪
2238
01:24:37,356 --> 01:24:39,389
[crowd booing]
2239
01:24:43,095 --> 01:24:44,428
[crowd cheering]
2240
01:24:44,463 --> 01:24:45,929
[crowd chanting]
Trump! Trump! Trump!
2241
01:24:45,965 --> 01:24:49,466
Trump! Trump! Trump!
Trump! Trump! Trump!
2242
01:24:49,502 --> 01:24:52,453
[crowd cheering]
2243
01:24:54,423 --> 01:24:56,823
[Trump] It all began for me
in New Hampshire,
2244
01:24:56,842 --> 01:24:59,209
the first state we won.
2245
01:25:02,998 --> 01:25:05,215
We are just one day away
2246
01:25:05,267 --> 01:25:07,184
from the change
you've been waiting for
2247
01:25:07,219 --> 01:25:08,685
your entire life.
2248
01:25:08,721 --> 01:25:11,722
[crowd cheering]
2249
01:25:15,010 --> 01:25:16,777
[airplane P.A. system beeping]
2250
01:25:16,812 --> 01:25:19,813
[indistinct radio chatter]
2251
01:25:22,401 --> 01:25:26,153
♪ ambient music ♪
2252
01:25:26,188 --> 01:25:28,071
[woman] You're looking
at Westchester County Airport
2253
01:25:28,124 --> 01:25:29,623
in White Plains, New York.
2254
01:25:29,658 --> 01:25:33,076
Hillary Clinton
coming home to vote.
2255
01:25:33,129 --> 01:25:36,380
This is Election Day.
2256
01:25:36,415 --> 01:25:39,383
♪ brooding music ♪
2257
01:25:39,418 --> 01:25:41,635
♪
2258
01:25:41,670 --> 01:25:44,671
[siren wailing]
2259
01:25:46,308 --> 01:25:48,225
[man on TV]
Right now, it is very, very,
2260
01:25:48,260 --> 01:25:50,260
very early results,
Hillary Clinton running up
2261
01:25:50,312 --> 01:25:52,712
the percentages that she needs
in Florida...
2262
01:25:52,731 --> 01:25:54,214
[Halperin] We're in that
classic bullshit period
2263
01:25:54,233 --> 01:25:55,933
where election returns
would suggest to you
2264
01:25:55,985 --> 01:25:57,884
Trump's doing even or well.
2265
01:25:57,903 --> 01:26:00,737
And the exit poll data
shows that Clinton's won it.
2266
01:26:00,773 --> 01:26:03,490
So insiders know that
and are basically like,
2267
01:26:03,526 --> 01:26:05,526
"All right, who's gonna be
in the Clinton cabinet?"
2268
01:26:05,561 --> 01:26:07,578
And, "What time's Clinton
gonna give her victory speech?"
2269
01:26:07,613 --> 01:26:09,496
And, "Will Trump concede?"
2270
01:26:09,532 --> 01:26:12,416
And, you know, on the air,
it's all just like Kabuki
2271
01:26:12,451 --> 01:26:14,901
of, "Oh, look,
Trump's up 7,800 votes."
2272
01:26:14,920 --> 01:26:16,670
She's right now, according
to the exit polls, ahead
2273
01:26:16,705 --> 01:26:18,255
in every battleground state
that she's contesting.
2274
01:26:18,290 --> 01:26:19,590
- Yeah.
- We're headed towards--
2275
01:26:19,625 --> 01:26:20,874
If she wins Florida,
that's that.
2276
01:26:20,909 --> 01:26:22,292
- Well, right.
- You know?
2277
01:26:22,344 --> 01:26:24,178
Eighteen months of, like,
extraordinary buildup
2278
01:26:24,213 --> 01:26:26,180
ends...[chuckles]
with one projection.
2279
01:26:26,215 --> 01:26:27,631
Mr. Trump, sayonara.
2280
01:26:27,683 --> 01:26:30,434
♪ atmospheric music ♪
2281
01:26:30,469 --> 01:26:32,553
[Heilemann] So welcome
to the Jacob Javits Center.
2282
01:26:32,588 --> 01:26:34,521
[Halperin] AKA Hillaryland.
2283
01:26:34,557 --> 01:26:36,139
[Clinton on TV]
Now is our chance
2284
01:26:36,192 --> 01:26:37,975
to beat the historical odds
2285
01:26:38,027 --> 01:26:39,526
and give the American people
2286
01:26:39,562 --> 01:26:41,445
the health security they need.
2287
01:26:41,480 --> 01:26:43,864
We worked really hard.
We weren't successful.
2288
01:26:43,899 --> 01:26:45,816
Which really disappointed...
2289
01:26:45,868 --> 01:26:47,767
This is, like, mind-blowing.
2290
01:26:47,786 --> 01:26:49,870
[indistinct chatter]
2291
01:26:49,905 --> 01:26:51,488
[Heilemann] Very futuristic.
2292
01:26:51,540 --> 01:26:52,956
Literally, it's like
nothing I've ever seen
2293
01:26:52,992 --> 01:26:54,107
on election night.
2294
01:26:54,126 --> 01:26:55,826
This is like a show of force.
2295
01:26:55,878 --> 01:26:58,128
If she wins, it's gonna be
a metaphor for the fact
2296
01:26:58,163 --> 01:27:00,831
that she and her team
outplanned,
2297
01:27:00,883 --> 01:27:03,800
outworked, outspent
Donald J. Trump.
2298
01:27:03,836 --> 01:27:06,086
[man] This is the
electoral college map.
2299
01:27:06,121 --> 01:27:09,056
The colored states
you see now...
2300
01:27:09,091 --> 01:27:11,508
[crowd commotion]
2301
01:27:14,013 --> 01:27:14,811
No.
2302
01:27:14,847 --> 01:27:16,096
Really?
2303
01:27:16,131 --> 01:27:17,397
I guess I never
really thought about it.
2304
01:27:17,433 --> 01:27:19,399
- I just know how hard it is...
- Right.
2305
01:27:19,435 --> 01:27:20,934
- ...for women to win.
- Since you never expected
2306
01:27:20,969 --> 01:27:22,569
to see one in your lifetime,
it's fair to say
2307
01:27:22,605 --> 01:27:24,304
that you are seeing one
sooner than you expected.
2308
01:27:24,323 --> 01:27:25,606
Yes.
I hope that's right.
2309
01:27:25,641 --> 01:27:26,523
[laughter]
2310
01:27:28,310 --> 01:27:29,660
Stay--don't-
don't let him fuck with you.
2311
01:27:29,695 --> 01:27:31,745
Stay here and talk to me.
2312
01:27:31,780 --> 01:27:33,914
[Fallon] So everybody's paying
attention to the glass ceiling
2313
01:27:33,949 --> 01:27:35,532
and all the symbolic value
of that.
2314
01:27:35,584 --> 01:27:37,251
- [Heilemann] Yeah.
- [Fallon] And that's true.
2315
01:27:37,286 --> 01:27:39,419
But the other thing that
we're pointing to is the stage
2316
01:27:39,455 --> 01:27:41,821
that is shaped like the map
of the United States of America.
2317
01:27:41,840 --> 01:27:44,041
And the symbolic purpose
of that is--
2318
01:27:44,093 --> 01:27:45,709
and this is something you're
gonna hear in her remarks--
2319
01:27:45,761 --> 01:27:47,377
that she wants to be
a president for everybody.
2320
01:27:47,429 --> 01:27:49,930
We realize, even if she has
a decisive victory tonight,
2321
01:27:49,965 --> 01:27:51,548
that the country's
gonna remain polarized
2322
01:27:51,600 --> 01:27:52,883
and the big challenge
facing her is gonna be
2323
01:27:52,935 --> 01:27:54,384
how to try to heal the divide.
2324
01:27:54,436 --> 01:27:55,969
And so starting tonight,
2325
01:27:56,004 --> 01:27:58,105
wants to start
to reach out
2326
01:27:58,140 --> 01:28:01,942
to even those Trump supporters
that didn't vote for her.
2327
01:28:01,977 --> 01:28:04,945
♪ pensive music ♪
2328
01:28:04,980 --> 01:28:09,950
♪
2329
01:28:09,985 --> 01:28:12,986
[indistinct chatter]
2330
01:28:17,076 --> 01:28:19,076
So this is kind--I mean, I know
he's done events here before,
2331
01:28:19,128 --> 01:28:21,027
but it's so weird
for an election night party
2332
01:28:21,046 --> 01:28:22,579
for the guy that
has huge rallies
2333
01:28:22,631 --> 01:28:23,630
to end on a note like this,
right?
2334
01:28:23,666 --> 01:28:25,332
I know.
Well, I think...
2335
01:28:28,203 --> 01:28:29,970
[McKinnon] This looks more like
an annual convention
2336
01:28:30,005 --> 01:28:33,090
of osteopaths than it does
an election night celebration.
2337
01:28:33,142 --> 01:28:35,392
[man on TV] North Carolina,
Florida, right away.
2338
01:28:35,427 --> 01:28:37,811
First in the polls...
2339
01:28:37,846 --> 01:28:40,263
[Blitzer on TV] Key race alert
right now.
2340
01:28:40,316 --> 01:28:42,599
[dramatic music on TV]
2341
01:28:42,651 --> 01:28:44,518
Key race alerts!
2342
01:28:44,553 --> 01:28:45,686
[Blitzer on TV] All right,
let's take a look.
2343
01:28:45,721 --> 01:28:47,404
Let's start with Florida.
2344
01:28:47,439 --> 01:28:49,323
Right now, Donald Trump
is ahead impressively
2345
01:28:49,358 --> 01:28:51,274
with 91% of the vote.
2346
01:28:51,327 --> 01:28:53,393
In Ohio, Donald Trump
also has the lead
2347
01:28:53,412 --> 01:28:56,780
of more than 52,000
with 39% of the vote in.
2348
01:28:56,832 --> 01:28:58,165
Eighteen-point threshold.
2349
01:28:58,200 --> 01:29:00,033
It's too close to call.
2350
01:29:00,068 --> 01:29:01,918
[Blitzer on TV] In Virginia
right now, Donald Trump
2351
01:29:01,954 --> 01:29:03,704
still has an impressive lead...
2352
01:29:03,739 --> 01:29:05,455
[Heilemann]
The suggestion earlier was
2353
01:29:05,507 --> 01:29:07,257
if she won Florida,
it'd be a really early night.
2354
01:29:07,292 --> 01:29:10,293
And now it's Trump
with 92% of the vote in
2355
01:29:10,346 --> 01:29:14,848
and Trump ahead
by 130,000 votes.
2356
01:29:14,883 --> 01:29:16,683
She could still...
2357
01:29:16,719 --> 01:29:18,602
[Blitzer on TV]
...votes outstanding...
2358
01:29:18,637 --> 01:29:21,605
♪ ambient music ♪
2359
01:29:21,640 --> 01:29:26,610
♪
2360
01:29:26,645 --> 01:29:29,229
[Schumer on TV] I got to watch
my oldest daughter,
2361
01:29:29,264 --> 01:29:32,482
Jessica, get married
to the man of her dreams...
2362
01:29:32,534 --> 01:29:35,035
♪
2363
01:29:35,070 --> 01:29:36,987
[Halperin] So I'm over
at the Clinton headquarters.
2364
01:29:37,039 --> 01:29:39,156
And the atmosphere here
in the last 45 minutes
2365
01:29:39,208 --> 01:29:41,107
has just pancaked.
2366
01:29:41,126 --> 01:29:44,711
[Schumer on TV] I guess
what I'm saying is this.
2367
01:29:44,747 --> 01:29:47,964
I believe that she will win.
2368
01:29:48,000 --> 01:29:49,750
[Halperin] They're playing
Schumer giving some speech,
2369
01:29:49,785 --> 01:29:51,618
and people are like,
"Please, we don't need
2370
01:29:51,637 --> 01:29:53,336
to hear about how much
you love Coney Island.
2371
01:29:53,389 --> 01:29:56,556
What the fuck's going on
in Broward County?"
2372
01:29:56,592 --> 01:29:57,758
[man on TV]
And this is encouraging you,
2373
01:29:57,793 --> 01:29:59,309
if you're the Trump campaign,
2374
01:29:59,344 --> 01:30:01,094
If Donald Trump keeps it
that close...
2375
01:30:01,129 --> 01:30:03,463
[Halperin] My sense is that
in the last 45 minutes or so,
2376
01:30:03,482 --> 01:30:05,182
the energy's...
2377
01:30:05,234 --> 01:30:06,149
- Air--yeah, absolutely.
- Air out of the room, right.
2378
01:30:07,469 --> 01:30:08,435
Right.
2379
01:30:16,111 --> 01:30:18,578
Have you reached any of the
Clinton people about Florida?
2380
01:30:20,866 --> 01:30:23,834
♪ rousing pensive music ♪
2381
01:30:23,869 --> 01:30:26,820
[man on TV] A couple things to
point out. First of all we talk
about this
2382
01:30:26,839 --> 01:30:30,123
college, non-college...
2383
01:30:31,093 --> 01:30:33,159
[crowd cheering]
2384
01:30:33,178 --> 01:30:37,013
[man] Donald Trump has just
won the state of Ohio.
2385
01:30:37,049 --> 01:30:39,216
[man] No Republican has
won the White House without
2386
01:30:39,268 --> 01:30:46,306
winning the state of
Ohio. Donald Trump, the GOP
nominee has just...
2387
01:30:47,309 --> 01:30:49,559
[man on TV] Sure, it's only a
couple hundred in this county,
2388
01:30:49,611 --> 01:30:51,061
maybe 1,000 there,
maybe 1,500 there...
2389
01:30:51,113 --> 01:30:52,312
[Halperin] They've got
the audio up
2390
01:30:52,347 --> 01:30:54,030
on John King at CNN
because
2391
01:30:54,066 --> 01:30:56,533
they're starved for information.
2392
01:30:56,568 --> 01:30:58,702
That is something
if that's 100%.
2393
01:30:58,737 --> 01:31:01,238
There's not more votes to be
gained by Hillary Clinton...
2394
01:31:01,290 --> 01:31:04,491
If she--if he wins Florida,
it's an earthquake.
2395
01:31:08,130 --> 01:31:10,964
I would say
at this moment
2396
01:31:10,999 --> 01:31:13,717
that...
2397
01:31:13,752 --> 01:31:16,336
pretty much
every liberal I know
2398
01:31:16,371 --> 01:31:17,971
is comprehensively
freaking out.
2399
01:31:18,006 --> 01:31:21,007
[siren wailing]
2400
01:31:24,346 --> 01:31:25,729
Think that's fair to say.
2401
01:31:29,351 --> 01:31:31,568
[Blitzer] CNN can now project
2402
01:31:31,603 --> 01:31:34,771
that the state of Colorado
will go to Hillary Clinton.
2403
01:31:34,823 --> 01:31:37,908
Remember, you need 270
to win the White House.
2404
01:31:37,943 --> 01:31:39,442
I keep saying that...
2405
01:31:39,495 --> 01:31:40,694
♪
2406
01:31:40,729 --> 01:31:43,163
Yeah, even with Iowa.
2407
01:31:43,198 --> 01:31:44,731
She's got--
she's got a chance still.
2408
01:31:44,750 --> 01:31:47,501
If she can block him
in Michigan, Wisconsin...
2409
01:31:49,505 --> 01:31:50,787
For Trump?
All right.
2410
01:31:50,839 --> 01:31:52,506
Fox is giving North Carolina
to Trump, so...
2411
01:31:52,541 --> 01:31:54,674
really about Michigan,
Wisconsin,
2412
01:31:54,710 --> 01:31:56,409
and New Hampshire right now.
2413
01:31:56,428 --> 01:31:58,261
Michigan-Wisconsin thing
is key.
2414
01:31:58,297 --> 01:31:59,763
'Cause she's behind by--
I mean, it seems like bo--
2415
01:31:59,798 --> 01:32:01,214
those are probably
gonna go the same direction.
2416
01:32:01,249 --> 01:32:03,099
Okay.
Let me know, okay?
2417
01:32:03,135 --> 01:32:04,935
Thank you.
2418
01:32:04,970 --> 01:32:06,636
♪ ambient music ♪
2419
01:32:06,688 --> 01:32:07,971
[Colbert]
My guests tonight are
2420
01:32:08,023 --> 01:32:09,940
executive producers
and reporters
2421
01:32:09,975 --> 01:32:12,475
from Showtime's political
documentary series The Circus.
2422
01:32:12,528 --> 01:32:14,811
Please welcome Mark Halperin
and John Heilemann.
2423
01:32:14,863 --> 01:32:16,029
[cheers and applause]
2424
01:32:16,064 --> 01:32:17,614
[man] Yeah, there you go.
2425
01:32:17,649 --> 01:32:18,698
[Colbert] Yeah.
2426
01:32:18,734 --> 01:32:20,951
Uh, what is happening out there?
2427
01:32:20,986 --> 01:32:22,936
I haven't looked at anything
in, like, the last half hour.
2428
01:32:22,955 --> 01:32:24,437
What's going on?
2429
01:32:24,456 --> 01:32:26,907
Um, my sense is that
this audience will not
2430
01:32:26,942 --> 01:32:28,291
particularly like this,
but he's now the front-runner.
2431
01:32:28,327 --> 01:32:29,910
[crowd moans]
2432
01:32:29,945 --> 01:32:31,878
Uh, if Trump wins,
how about bursting into tears
2433
01:32:31,914 --> 01:32:33,947
and screaming "fuck"
for the next 45 minutes?
2434
01:32:33,966 --> 01:32:36,666
[laughter and applause]
2435
01:32:36,718 --> 01:32:39,336
What did you want to say?
2436
01:32:39,388 --> 01:32:41,054
What?
2437
01:32:41,089 --> 01:32:42,138
- Yeah.
- Uhh, Donald Trump
2438
01:32:42,174 --> 01:32:43,807
has taken the state of Florida.
2439
01:32:43,842 --> 01:32:45,058
- [crowd groans]
- Okay, so that's been called.
2440
01:32:45,093 --> 01:32:46,710
He is--he is now on--
he is now
2441
01:32:46,745 --> 01:32:49,446
on the doorstep
of 270 electoral votes.
2442
01:32:49,481 --> 01:32:52,182
Wow.
Wow.
2443
01:32:52,217 --> 01:32:55,018
Uh, that's
a horrifying prospect.
2444
01:32:55,070 --> 01:32:59,072
I can't put--
uh, I cannot put a-a-a--
2445
01:32:59,107 --> 01:33:01,691
I can't put a happy face
on that.
2446
01:33:01,743 --> 01:33:03,443
And-and that's my job.
2447
01:33:03,478 --> 01:33:04,644
[soft laughter]
2448
01:33:04,663 --> 01:33:05,912
If you did an MRI
of the country,
2449
01:33:05,948 --> 01:33:08,164
I think you'd--
terminal grievance
2450
01:33:08,200 --> 01:33:10,650
and anger and populist ire
2451
01:33:10,669 --> 01:33:13,036
is the--is the-the-the thing
that afflicts
2452
01:33:13,088 --> 01:33:15,372
both sides--Democrat--on
the far left and the far right.
2453
01:33:15,424 --> 01:33:17,040
And now we are
where we are, which is--
2454
01:33:17,092 --> 01:33:18,491
Outside-outside
of the Civil War,
2455
01:33:18,510 --> 01:33:20,443
World War II,
2456
01:33:20,479 --> 01:33:22,178
and including 9/11,
this may be
2457
01:33:22,214 --> 01:33:24,881
the most cataclysmic event
the country's ever seen.
2458
01:33:24,933 --> 01:33:26,850
Um...[chuckles nervously]
well...
2459
01:33:26,885 --> 01:33:28,218
[laughter]
2460
01:33:28,270 --> 01:33:29,936
♪ ominous music ♪
2461
01:33:29,972 --> 01:33:31,104
- [woman] Happy to march.
- We'll be right back
2462
01:33:31,139 --> 01:33:33,023
after this message from Calgon.
2463
01:33:33,058 --> 01:33:34,724
[indistinct chatter]
2464
01:33:34,776 --> 01:33:36,776
[traffic honking]
2465
01:33:39,281 --> 01:33:40,897
[Halperin] Here's an update
from Clinton aides.
2466
01:33:40,949 --> 01:33:44,367
She's still at the hotel,
watching results.
2467
01:33:44,403 --> 01:33:46,453
She was planning to wait
and then at some point
2468
01:33:46,488 --> 01:33:48,538
go over to the Javits Center
and give her victory speech.
2469
01:33:48,573 --> 01:33:51,958
[short sigh] I mean, you know,
she's in there now.
2470
01:33:51,994 --> 01:33:53,960
They're--I'm sure they're
telling her the bad news
2471
01:33:53,996 --> 01:33:55,695
and they're trying
to figure out a path.
2472
01:33:55,714 --> 01:33:57,998
They're claiming that
there's more vote out
2473
01:33:58,033 --> 01:33:59,299
at some of these places.
2474
01:33:59,334 --> 01:34:01,034
Can you imagine
if she has to give
2475
01:34:01,053 --> 01:34:03,303
a concession speech tonight,
what she's gonna say?
2476
01:34:03,338 --> 01:34:06,139
You know, she said America is
better than this and all that.
2477
01:34:06,174 --> 01:34:08,758
I mean, she's gonna have to say
this is what America wants.
2478
01:34:11,346 --> 01:34:12,595
Literally, there's never
been anything
2479
01:34:12,648 --> 01:34:14,481
that's happened like this.
2480
01:34:14,516 --> 01:34:18,234
I, um...
2481
01:34:18,270 --> 01:34:20,854
you know, often thunk of Trump
as like Berlusconi,
2482
01:34:20,889 --> 01:34:22,105
the prime minister of Italy.
2483
01:34:22,157 --> 01:34:24,724
You know, incredibly outrageous,
2484
01:34:24,743 --> 01:34:27,494
um, c-conduct and personality.
2485
01:34:27,529 --> 01:34:29,412
But with all due respect
to the Italians,
2486
01:34:29,448 --> 01:34:31,230
like, being prime minister
of Italy
2487
01:34:31,249 --> 01:34:34,617
is not the same as being
president of the United States.
2488
01:34:37,238 --> 01:34:40,256
[siren wailing]
2489
01:34:40,292 --> 01:34:42,092
I texted a Trump aide.
2490
01:34:42,127 --> 01:34:44,427
[indistinct shouting]
2491
01:34:44,463 --> 01:34:47,597
Said, "Where are you?"
2492
01:34:47,632 --> 01:34:50,100
Her response was,
"Alongside the next POTUS."
2493
01:34:50,135 --> 01:34:53,053
[man] That's right!
That's right!
2494
01:34:53,088 --> 01:34:55,605
[siren wailing]
2495
01:34:55,640 --> 01:34:57,140
[crowd chanting]
Drain the swamp!
2496
01:34:57,192 --> 01:35:00,944
Drain the swamp!
Drain the swamp!
2497
01:35:00,979 --> 01:35:04,030
Drain the swamp!
Drain the swamp!
2498
01:35:04,066 --> 01:35:05,782
Yeah, um,
2499
01:35:05,817 --> 01:35:07,650
I'm-I'm on 55th and 6th,
2500
01:35:07,703 --> 01:35:08,818
trying to get
towards the hotel.
2501
01:35:08,870 --> 01:35:10,370
They've got a credential for me.
2502
01:35:10,405 --> 01:35:11,705
They've got it inside.
2503
01:35:11,740 --> 01:35:15,875
[crowd commotion]
2504
01:35:15,911 --> 01:35:17,777
[man] Uh, "impatient,"
at this point
2505
01:35:17,796 --> 01:35:19,746
would be the operative
word of the night.
2506
01:35:19,781 --> 01:35:21,715
There has not been
a single person
2507
01:35:21,750 --> 01:35:24,283
who has left the Trump
victory night headquarters,
2508
01:35:24,302 --> 01:35:25,969
is what they think
it now is.
2509
01:35:26,004 --> 01:35:28,054
Uh, they're particularly
interested in
2510
01:35:28,090 --> 01:35:30,306
when Pennsylvania
might get called,
2511
01:35:30,342 --> 01:35:32,509
uh, because after...
2512
01:35:32,561 --> 01:35:34,477
♪ somber music ♪
2513
01:35:34,513 --> 01:35:37,347
[man] Two thousand twelve, uh,
Barack Obama won
quite "handedly."
2514
01:35:37,399 --> 01:35:40,150
This is steel country;
this is coal country.
2515
01:35:40,185 --> 01:35:41,651
And look at Donald Trump
winning...
2516
01:35:41,686 --> 01:35:43,653
[Heilemann]
We just got word that
2517
01:35:43,688 --> 01:35:47,023
Pennsylvania has been called
for Donald Trump.
2518
01:35:47,075 --> 01:35:52,078
♪
2519
01:35:55,700 --> 01:35:58,418
By any rational calculation,
it's over for her.
2520
01:35:58,453 --> 01:36:00,153
[Cooper on TV]
...lot of different ways.
2521
01:36:00,172 --> 01:36:02,922
David Axelrod,
what did everybody get wrong?
2522
01:36:02,958 --> 01:36:05,041
I mean, the polls
were just wrong.
2523
01:36:05,093 --> 01:36:06,659
[Alesci on TV] I know.
I think the Comey letter
2524
01:36:06,678 --> 01:36:08,545
was extremely hurtful to her.
2525
01:36:08,597 --> 01:36:10,430
It's, uh--
it's frankly astounding...
2526
01:36:10,465 --> 01:36:12,098
[man on TV] Think of what
an incredibly
2527
01:36:12,134 --> 01:36:14,017
nontraditional campaign
this was.
2528
01:36:14,052 --> 01:36:16,553
It was Donald Trump
with a microphone, a hat,
2529
01:36:16,605 --> 01:36:18,221
and an airplane.
2530
01:36:18,273 --> 01:36:19,722
- Twitter account.
- And a Twitter account.
2531
01:36:19,775 --> 01:36:21,507
[woman on TV] And a lot
of media exposure.
2532
01:36:21,526 --> 01:36:22,642
man on TV] An extraordinary...
2533
01:36:22,677 --> 01:36:24,861
[woman on TV] And the media...
2534
01:36:24,896 --> 01:36:27,346
I'm gonna go on TV tomorrow
and have to say,
2535
01:36:27,365 --> 01:36:29,732
"Hey, man, I was wrong."
2536
01:36:29,785 --> 01:36:31,367
I got to figure out
why I was wrong.
2537
01:36:31,403 --> 01:36:33,703
We all got to figure it out.
2538
01:36:33,738 --> 01:36:38,241
♪
2539
01:36:38,293 --> 01:36:40,743
This was the year of
2540
01:36:40,796 --> 01:36:43,580
bipartisan, ecumenical
populist rage.
2541
01:36:43,632 --> 01:36:46,132
And it was enough that
2542
01:36:46,168 --> 01:36:48,251
the figure of Donald Trump
was able to marshal
2543
01:36:48,303 --> 01:36:50,837
that populist outrage and...
2544
01:36:50,872 --> 01:36:53,256
issue a hostile takeover
of the Republican Party
2545
01:36:53,308 --> 01:36:56,059
on the back of widespread
2546
01:36:56,094 --> 01:36:59,062
outrage and anger
at Democrats, at Republicans,
2547
01:36:59,097 --> 01:37:01,347
at Washington, at Wall Street,
at Fortune 500,
2548
01:37:01,382 --> 01:37:04,067
at the mass media,
at every major establishment,
2549
01:37:04,102 --> 01:37:05,602
institution in the country.
2550
01:37:05,654 --> 01:37:07,353
People are fucking pissed off.
2551
01:37:07,388 --> 01:37:10,740
And their attitude was,
"You know what?
2552
01:37:10,775 --> 01:37:12,408
That guy is risky,
2553
01:37:12,444 --> 01:37:14,327
but doing the same thing
over and over again
2554
01:37:14,362 --> 01:37:16,262
for another 20 years that
we did for the last 20 years
2555
01:37:16,298 --> 01:37:17,146
and didn't fix anything,
2556
01:37:17,182 --> 01:37:18,615
that's risky too.
2557
01:37:18,667 --> 01:37:20,083
And I'm willing
to take these risks
2558
01:37:20,118 --> 01:37:22,168
and just roll
a fucking stick of dynamite
2559
01:37:22,204 --> 01:37:24,838
into Washington, D.C.,
and blow the motherfucker up
2560
01:37:24,873 --> 01:37:26,873
and see where the rubble falls."
2561
01:37:29,544 --> 01:37:32,578
[woman on TV] He gives
those voters hope.
2562
01:37:32,597 --> 01:37:35,248
They may not believe that
he can really change anything,
2563
01:37:35,267 --> 01:37:39,469
but he is their
hope and change candidate.
2564
01:37:39,521 --> 01:37:41,521
[King] Shouldn't he
be congratulated
2565
01:37:41,556 --> 01:37:45,391
or somebody just say what
he's done is extraordinary?
2566
01:37:45,426 --> 01:37:47,760
The fact that it started
with 17 candidates.
2567
01:37:47,779 --> 01:37:49,979
If you were a supporter
of Donald Trump
2568
01:37:50,031 --> 01:37:52,282
or he wasn't your candidate,
what he's accomplished
2569
01:37:52,317 --> 01:37:54,617
is extraordinary.
2570
01:37:54,653 --> 01:37:57,453
[Jones] People have
talked about a miracle.
2571
01:37:57,489 --> 01:38:00,156
Uh, I'm hearing
about a nightmare.
2572
01:38:00,208 --> 01:38:03,660
Uh, it's hard to be a parent
tonight for a lot of us.
2573
01:38:03,712 --> 01:38:07,330
Uh, you tell your kids,
don't be a bully.
2574
01:38:07,382 --> 01:38:10,383
You tell your kids,
don't be a bigot.
2575
01:38:10,418 --> 01:38:12,302
And then you have this outcome
and you have people
2576
01:38:12,337 --> 01:38:14,954
putting children to bed
tonight,
2577
01:38:14,973 --> 01:38:18,141
and they--
they're afraid of breakfast.
2578
01:38:18,176 --> 01:38:21,561
This was a rebellion
against the elites.
2579
01:38:21,596 --> 01:38:23,646
True, but it was
also something else.
2580
01:38:23,682 --> 01:38:24,847
We haven't talked about race.
2581
01:38:24,900 --> 01:38:26,900
This was a whitelash.
2582
01:38:26,935 --> 01:38:30,987
This was a whitelash
against a changing country.
2583
01:38:31,022 --> 01:38:34,691
It was a whitelash against
a black president, in part.
2584
01:38:34,743 --> 01:38:37,577
And that's the part
where the pain comes.
2585
01:38:37,612 --> 01:38:40,613
[siren wailing]
2586
01:38:41,750 --> 01:38:44,951
[indistinct chatter]
2587
01:38:44,986 --> 01:38:47,587
I have a right
to my own body.
2588
01:38:47,622 --> 01:38:49,839
Do you have a daughter?
Do you have a wife?
2589
01:38:49,874 --> 01:38:51,424
[man] The alt-right is here!
2590
01:38:51,459 --> 01:38:52,926
We are here to stay!
2591
01:38:52,961 --> 01:38:55,178
We are opposed
to neoconservatism.
2592
01:38:55,213 --> 01:38:56,596
- Yeah!
- We are opposed to globalism.
2593
01:38:56,631 --> 01:38:57,964
Yes.
2594
01:38:57,999 --> 01:38:59,215
We want nationalism
for all people.
2595
01:38:59,267 --> 01:39:00,350
Wow!
2596
01:39:00,385 --> 01:39:01,935
These are
the fucking assholes...
2597
01:39:01,970 --> 01:39:03,019
- White people have just...
- Exactly.
2598
01:39:03,054 --> 01:39:04,520
...as much of a right to exist.
2599
01:39:04,556 --> 01:39:06,189
- I'm a veteran!
- Yes, what do you--
2600
01:39:06,224 --> 01:39:07,607
- I'm 50% disabled!
- What do you identify as?
2601
01:39:07,642 --> 01:39:08,858
- You identify as American? Yes?
- Okay?
2602
01:39:08,893 --> 01:39:10,727
Of course I identify
as American!
2603
01:39:10,779 --> 01:39:12,895
And we shouldn't be
against each other by you
2604
01:39:12,948 --> 01:39:13,730
- telling me all this rhetoric.
- If--no--excuse me.
2605
01:39:13,782 --> 01:39:16,783
[crowd cheering]
2606
01:39:20,455 --> 01:39:23,406
♪ minimal string music ♪
2607
01:39:23,458 --> 01:39:28,461
♪
2608
01:39:34,669 --> 01:39:37,036
I mean, is-it's-it's stunning.
2609
01:39:37,055 --> 01:39:39,222
And people are
gonna be stunned tomorrow
2610
01:39:39,257 --> 01:39:41,257
and the next day
and the next day
2611
01:39:41,309 --> 01:39:44,560
and for a good long time.
2612
01:39:44,596 --> 01:39:47,263
It's-it's, uh--
it was--it was hard to cover
2613
01:39:47,315 --> 01:39:48,648
'cause the country's
so bitterly divided.
2614
01:39:48,683 --> 01:39:50,216
It was hard to cover
2615
01:39:50,235 --> 01:39:52,051
because so much
of what happened was
2616
01:39:52,070 --> 01:39:54,487
against
the conventional wisdom.
2617
01:39:54,522 --> 01:39:57,740
Tonight and this election
will be in the history books.
2618
01:39:57,776 --> 01:39:59,659
And it will never be
fully explained.
2619
01:39:59,694 --> 01:40:01,060
[crowd cheering]
2620
01:40:01,079 --> 01:40:05,999
[crowd chanting]
USA! USA! USA! USA!
2621
01:40:06,034 --> 01:40:07,784
USA! USA!
2622
01:40:07,836 --> 01:40:09,702
Thank you very much, everybody.
2623
01:40:09,737 --> 01:40:11,570
[scattered cheers]
2624
01:40:11,589 --> 01:40:14,507
Sorry to keep you waiting.
Complicated business.
2625
01:40:14,542 --> 01:40:16,542
Complicated.
2626
01:40:16,577 --> 01:40:18,044
This was tough.
2627
01:40:18,079 --> 01:40:20,013
♪ somber music ♪
2628
01:40:20,048 --> 01:40:23,749
This political stuff is nasty
and it's tough.
2629
01:40:23,768 --> 01:40:26,719
[crowd cheering]
2630
01:40:26,754 --> 01:40:31,774
♪
2631
01:40:35,263 --> 01:40:37,730
- [Halperin] I think we're done.
- [Heilemann] Well--
2632
01:40:37,765 --> 01:40:39,449
Scott says we're done.
2633
01:40:39,484 --> 01:40:41,484
- [Heilemann] We wake up today--
- Scott says we're done.
2634
01:40:41,536 --> 01:40:46,039
[indistinct chatter]
2635
01:40:46,074 --> 01:40:47,490
[Halperin] What are you doing?
- Cleaning
2636
01:40:47,542 --> 01:40:49,025
♪
2637
01:40:49,060 --> 01:40:50,493
[camera shutters clicking]
2638
01:40:50,528 --> 01:40:52,795
[Obama] I want
to emphasize to you,
2639
01:40:52,831 --> 01:40:54,731
uh, Mr. President-elect,
2640
01:40:54,766 --> 01:40:57,967
that, uh, we
2641
01:40:58,002 --> 01:41:00,887
now are gonna, uh,
2642
01:41:00,922 --> 01:41:03,389
want to do everything we can
to help you succeed,
2643
01:41:03,425 --> 01:41:04,674
because if you succeed,
2644
01:41:04,726 --> 01:41:06,559
then the country succeeds.
2645
01:41:06,594 --> 01:41:07,560
Thank you, sir.
2646
01:41:07,595 --> 01:41:09,395
[reporters all talking at once]
2647
01:41:09,431 --> 01:41:12,398
♪ dramatic orchestration ♪
2648
01:41:12,434 --> 01:41:17,437
♪
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