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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:43,042 --> 00:00:47,146 Dylan did what the best poets all through the ages have done. 2 00:00:47,780 --> 00:00:51,117 He took that which he found when he looked around him , 3 00:00:51,584 --> 00:00:54,253 and he made it better before he moved on . 4 00:00:57,390 --> 00:01:01,294 I think that it was probably when Tommy and I were working 5 00:01:01,394 --> 00:01:03,763 in a place called The Fifth Peg , Gerde's Folk City. 6 00:01:04,130 --> 00:01:06,899 And we were doing a regular gig there, 7 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:09,635 and on Monday nights, there was a hootenanny night, 8 00:01:09,902 --> 00:01:11,771 and I remember looking down at the bar 9 00:01:11,871 --> 00:01:14,907 and saying , "Is that a fella or a girl?" 10 00:01:16,576 --> 00:01:20,479 And there was this young , fresh-faced lad , 11 00:01:21,847 --> 00:01:24,116 and he came up to us afterwards. 12 00:01:24,717 --> 00:01:25,785 He had a presence. 13 00:01:25,952 --> 00:01:27,320 He had something special . 14 00:01:27,420 --> 00:01:31,123 He got up and sang and he started playing the piano. 15 00:01:31,757 --> 00:01:34,260 "By God , this fella has talent. 16 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:36,062 "There's more to this fella than meets the eye." 17 00:01:46,272 --> 00:01:48,307 As time went by, I remember, 18 00:01:48,841 --> 00:01:51,210 we were together at the bar one night, 19 00:01:52,111 --> 00:01:57,617 and Paddy had gotten him a job playing the harmonica on Columbia Records, 20 00:01:57,717 --> 00:01:59,452 backing up Carolyn Hester, 21 00:01:59,585 --> 00:02:01,787 this folk singer from Texas. 22 00:02:02,521 --> 00:02:03,789 And during the coffee breaks, 23 00:02:03,889 --> 00:02:06,125 he started singing his songs to John Hammond . 24 00:02:06,692 --> 00:02:08,294 Who was the A&R man at Columbia Records. 25 00:02:08,394 --> 00:02:10,296 He got a contract out of that, 26 00:02:10,663 --> 00:02:12,031 and the record started selling . 27 00:02:12,131 --> 00:02:13,199 He came to me at the bar one night, 28 00:02:13,299 --> 00:02:15,034 and he said , "Hey, Liam . 29 00:02:15,134 --> 00:02:17,069 "My records are selling nearly as much as yours." 30 00:02:19,705 --> 00:02:21,641 Welcome to Madison Square Garden . 31 00:02:21,741 --> 00:02:23,376 This is Bob Dylan's night. 32 00:02:24,944 --> 00:02:27,647 On March 1 9 in 1 962, 33 00:02:27,747 --> 00:02:32,718 Columbia Records released the first album by a new artist, Bob Dylan . 34 00:02:33,519 --> 00:02:37,923 Now 30 years, 38 albums, and over 500 songs later, 35 00:02:38,257 --> 00:02:40,693 Bob Dylan's universally recognized 36 00:02:40,860 --> 00:02:44,263 as one of the most powerful creative artists of our time. 37 00:02:44,997 --> 00:02:47,400 Backstage, we have one of the greatest collections 38 00:02:47,500 --> 00:02:51,070 of performing artists ever assembled , and they're all here for one reason , 39 00:02:51,537 --> 00:02:54,707 to pay tribute to Bob Dylan through his own songs. 40 00:02:56,709 --> 00:02:58,210 How you gonna top this? 41 00:02:58,377 --> 00:03:04,417 I think the main thing about all of this is that here is a guy who is really deserving of this. 42 00:03:04,984 --> 00:03:08,788 This is not some made-up thing from some promotional stunt. 43 00:03:08,921 --> 00:03:11,023 I mean , Bob Dylan really deserves... 44 00:03:11,123 --> 00:03:14,260 Whatever we're gonna be doing tonight is paying tribute to his music. 45 00:03:14,460 --> 00:03:17,363 I mean , it's awesome what this man has done. 46 00:03:23,202 --> 00:03:25,137 I was at rehearsal the other day, 47 00:03:25,237 --> 00:03:27,106 and there I was playing guitar, 48 00:03:27,206 --> 00:03:29,575 and I look to my left, and there's Steve Cropper, 49 00:03:30,209 --> 00:03:32,211 to my right is "Duck" Dunn , 50 00:03:32,578 --> 00:03:34,547 Booker T. is on the keyboard , 51 00:03:35,314 --> 00:03:36,749 I got G . E. Smith . 52 00:03:36,849 --> 00:03:39,819 We had so much fun . . . It was one of those things 53 00:03:39,919 --> 00:03:42,221 where it was so much fun , how could it be legal? 54 00:04:54,894 --> 00:04:56,962 J ust seeing Eric Clapton play 55 00:04:57,062 --> 00:05:01,200 and watching Neil Young rehearse before that was just so awe-inspiring , 56 00:05:01,367 --> 00:05:03,335 I wanted to cry. 57 00:05:03,569 --> 00:05:05,437 It was very cool . 58 00:05:05,538 --> 00:05:07,773 I think I was more nervous than anything . 59 00:05:07,873 --> 00:05:10,776 See, I'm fine. I keep my cool around all these cats, you know? 60 00:05:11,043 --> 00:05:12,478 -I try to. -Try to be cool . 61 00:05:12,578 --> 00:05:13,846 -I'm trying to. -It's hopeless. 62 00:05:31,430 --> 00:05:35,000 Well , I couldn't not be here. I have to be here. 63 00:05:35,301 --> 00:05:38,437 Anything with Bob, I'd probably be hurt if I was left out, you know? 64 00:05:40,206 --> 00:05:43,409 I mean , being here with all these people from Neil to... 65 00:05:43,542 --> 00:05:45,377 Oh , God . How do you start naming them all? 66 00:05:45,477 --> 00:05:47,246 It was really great, the rehearsals, 67 00:05:48,280 --> 00:05:50,416 seeing everybody all in the same room 68 00:05:50,549 --> 00:05:52,384 and everybody there for the same reason , really. 69 00:05:52,718 --> 00:05:55,588 And what was really great, too, was to see Bob say... 70 00:05:55,688 --> 00:05:57,890 Ask somebody, "Is there a bridge in this song?" 71 00:06:06,131 --> 00:06:07,967 Well , it's very daunting to think about it, 72 00:06:08,167 --> 00:06:10,903 you know, to go through , like, 720 songs 73 00:06:11,003 --> 00:06:12,338 and you've got to work out which one you want to do, 74 00:06:12,438 --> 00:06:13,439 which is your favorite. 75 00:06:13,672 --> 00:06:16,041 Then I saw a list of songs that hadn't been done 76 00:06:16,342 --> 00:06:18,143 that were more of the classics. 77 00:06:18,244 --> 00:06:21,814 I mean , in a show like this, I think it's good to do the classics because it's a tribute. 78 00:06:28,821 --> 00:06:32,524 It would be hard to categorize what Bob's done songwriting-wise 79 00:06:32,625 --> 00:06:34,693 because he's written so many coverable classics, 80 00:06:34,927 --> 00:06:36,829 and then he's done so many songs 81 00:06:37,062 --> 00:06:39,732 which it doesn't matter who sings them , they're always gonna sound like him , 82 00:06:39,932 --> 00:06:44,370 and his storytelling is quite incredible. 83 00:06:53,846 --> 00:06:56,115 We watched Eric Clapton run through something , 84 00:06:56,215 --> 00:06:59,685 and he went, "Well , if that doesn't bring the house down , nothing will ." 85 00:07:39,458 --> 00:07:41,827 I was in a band called The Yardbirds, 86 00:07:41,927 --> 00:07:45,497 and the bass player was mad about Bob Dylan , 87 00:07:45,631 --> 00:07:48,500 and that was enough reason for me to hate him , really, 88 00:07:48,834 --> 00:07:53,072 because this particular guy was a very big folk music fan , 89 00:07:53,205 --> 00:07:55,040 and I had no interest in folk music, 90 00:07:55,140 --> 00:07:58,978 and my attitude in those days was very purist. 91 00:07:59,078 --> 00:08:00,579 I didn't like anything ... 92 00:08:00,679 --> 00:08:03,916 Didn't like any musician who was alive, for one thing , 93 00:08:04,016 --> 00:08:05,951 and who was other than black. 94 00:08:06,085 --> 00:08:10,422 And a young white folk singer was not interesting to me 95 00:08:10,789 --> 00:08:15,027 until I saw the cover of The Times They Are A-Changin', 96 00:08:15,194 --> 00:08:20,766 and this guy looked so ravaged and old for a young man . 97 00:08:21,367 --> 00:08:23,268 It was as good as being black in a way 98 00:08:23,369 --> 00:08:25,537 in that he was old , you know, in this young body, 99 00:08:25,637 --> 00:08:28,707 and it sort of triggered something . 100 00:08:28,807 --> 00:08:30,309 I still can't figure out what, 101 00:08:30,409 --> 00:08:35,481 but I bought the record and was immediately converted . 102 00:08:43,655 --> 00:08:45,457 I used to work in the Brill building , 103 00:08:45,557 --> 00:08:46,992 and my job was to listen to the radio 104 00:08:47,092 --> 00:08:49,762 and write songs like Frank Sinatra or Bobby V. 105 00:08:49,995 --> 00:08:50,963 Right around that time, 106 00:08:51,063 --> 00:08:54,700 Dylan was writing his own songs and singing them , 107 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:58,037 and switched over from folk to rock, 108 00:08:58,137 --> 00:09:01,807 and I think the impact on the whole music business 109 00:09:01,907 --> 00:09:06,512 was tremendous because Tin Pan Alley went out of business after that. 110 00:09:21,660 --> 00:09:22,928 When I first heard Tambourine Man , 111 00:09:23,028 --> 00:09:26,398 I wasn't sure that it was gonna be a hit single. 112 00:09:27,099 --> 00:09:29,535 It didn't sound like the kind of thing that was on the radio at the time, 113 00:09:29,635 --> 00:09:31,470 which was I Want To Hold Your Hand 114 00:09:31,570 --> 00:09:32,805 or She Loves You . 115 00:09:33,405 --> 00:09:36,442 Radio was very particular about how long a song could be. 116 00:09:36,942 --> 00:09:40,512 Two, three minutes was the most time you could get on a hit single. 117 00:09:41,447 --> 00:09:43,615 This song was, like, five or six minutes long , 118 00:09:45,317 --> 00:09:49,288 but what we did was we changed it to one verse 119 00:09:49,721 --> 00:09:52,791 and changed the time signature from 2/4 to 4/4, 120 00:09:53,092 --> 00:09:57,763 and I put a little Bach-like intro to it, 121 00:09:57,930 --> 00:09:59,531 and gave it a little kick. 122 00:10:14,213 --> 00:10:15,581 I was thinking about it last night, 123 00:10:15,681 --> 00:10:21,153 and I was thinking about how music has always been like religion to me. 124 00:10:21,787 --> 00:10:24,823 It's the only way I can even relate to the meaning of religion 125 00:10:24,923 --> 00:10:27,493 is that music was that for me, 126 00:10:27,759 --> 00:10:31,196 and it felt like yesterday we were in the room with maybe 1 0 of the 1 2 apostles 127 00:10:31,296 --> 00:10:33,198 or something like that. 128 00:10:35,701 --> 00:10:38,036 It was like the Mount Rushmore of rock and roll 129 00:10:38,137 --> 00:10:40,105 except with more than four faces. 130 00:10:40,672 --> 00:10:41,740 It was incredible. 131 00:10:55,087 --> 00:10:57,990 I've been so concerned about trying not to make mistakes tonight 132 00:10:58,090 --> 00:11:00,926 that I haven't had a chance to... 133 00:11:02,594 --> 00:11:04,696 Assess the value of what we're doing here. 134 00:11:08,534 --> 00:11:10,002 There's so much respect for Dylan . 135 00:11:10,102 --> 00:11:14,006 I mean , really, he's driven , I think, a lot of careers. 136 00:11:14,773 --> 00:11:16,008 Obviously. 137 00:11:20,812 --> 00:11:23,815 There was a moment on Blonde on Blonde, 138 00:11:24,349 --> 00:11:25,350 where it was about 3: 00 in the morning , 139 00:11:25,450 --> 00:11:27,586 and we were recording something , and I was playing , 140 00:11:27,686 --> 00:11:29,655 and I started playing this mind game with myself, 141 00:11:29,888 --> 00:11:32,791 which was the experience that I had playing on H ighway 61 . 142 00:11:32,891 --> 00:11:38,997 I realized after that that some of this music that we were doing was gonna live forever. 143 00:11:39,665 --> 00:11:41,233 And so I got into this mind game of, 144 00:11:41,333 --> 00:11:45,671 "Well , wherever you put your finger next is gonna be there in , like, 1 00 years." 145 00:11:45,771 --> 00:11:48,707 And then I just slapped myself in the face mentally 146 00:11:48,807 --> 00:11:50,709 and said , "Please don't do this. 147 00:11:51,043 --> 00:11:52,811 "J ust play the song ." 148 00:11:58,250 --> 00:12:00,686 I mean , he has never made a bad album , 149 00:12:01,353 --> 00:12:04,323 and I always buy whatever the new album is 150 00:12:04,823 --> 00:12:06,858 because there's always something there 151 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:09,394 that will really knock me out. 152 00:12:09,728 --> 00:12:15,200 I think Dylan introduced the idea of having a more complicated lyric 153 00:12:15,434 --> 00:12:17,536 as opposed to pop music. 154 00:12:17,869 --> 00:12:21,540 I mean , we all have our own favorite pop songs. 155 00:12:24,243 --> 00:12:27,512 But it's talking about the type of lyric involved with it 156 00:12:28,180 --> 00:12:31,316 and the complexity of the lyric involved with it. 157 00:12:31,650 --> 00:12:38,357 He was truly the liberator of words in rock and roll . 158 00:12:39,124 --> 00:12:41,860 Whereas rock and roll used to be music of the body, 159 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:44,162 he made it equally music of the mind , 160 00:12:44,763 --> 00:12:46,999 and for that, we owe him a great debt. 161 00:13:08,253 --> 00:13:10,889 We're talking about poetry to music. 162 00:13:11,823 --> 00:13:15,527 The first time I heard J ust Like A Woman , it moved me, 163 00:13:15,661 --> 00:13:18,163 and how it moved me is the same way I try to sing it. 164 00:13:18,463 --> 00:13:19,965 I mean , with the same feeling , 165 00:13:20,265 --> 00:13:23,468 what I felt, what I felt about what he was saying , 166 00:13:24,870 --> 00:13:26,972 is inside of the song when I'm singing it. 167 00:13:38,817 --> 00:13:41,253 I heard him play in the Café Wha? 168 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:44,022 There was absolutely magic, there was. 169 00:13:44,523 --> 00:13:46,925 What he was doing was something very new. 170 00:13:47,259 --> 00:13:50,262 It was an expressive voice through music. 171 00:13:50,562 --> 00:13:52,798 There was a great deal of spontaneousness. 172 00:13:53,031 --> 00:13:57,402 In spontaneity, I think, there is a large bonding glue, 173 00:13:57,803 --> 00:13:59,004 you know, because if you're there, 174 00:13:59,104 --> 00:14:02,641 something is happening that isn't maybe even gonna happen again , 175 00:14:02,741 --> 00:14:04,042 and usually never does. 176 00:14:54,426 --> 00:14:57,195 I think this girl , a Canadian friend of ours 177 00:14:57,295 --> 00:15:00,065 that was working for Bob's manager, 178 00:15:00,165 --> 00:15:01,733 brought an album up to Toronto 179 00:15:01,833 --> 00:15:04,102 when we were playing one of them Yonge Street bars. 180 00:15:04,336 --> 00:15:06,037 -Mary Martin . -Mary Martin . 181 00:15:06,104 --> 00:15:08,240 I do believe 182 00:15:09,141 --> 00:15:10,709 that it was before H ighway 61 Revisited . 183 00:15:10,809 --> 00:15:12,778 It was Don't Think Twice, It's All Right, 184 00:15:12,844 --> 00:15:14,479 Oxford Town . 185 00:15:15,147 --> 00:15:16,515 And it was pretty remarkable. 186 00:15:16,681 --> 00:15:17,916 It was different at that time. 187 00:15:18,316 --> 00:15:20,051 Listening to the lyrics, you know, 188 00:15:20,185 --> 00:15:25,791 Bob was definitely talking , making you think. 189 00:15:45,877 --> 00:15:48,680 When Bob went electric, 190 00:15:48,847 --> 00:15:52,984 you know, and started adding all ourselves to the equation . 191 00:15:53,084 --> 00:15:54,085 -People like us. -Yeah . 192 00:15:54,219 --> 00:15:56,555 Started adding people like us to the equation , 193 00:15:56,655 --> 00:16:02,060 with drums and with electric bass and with electric guitars. 194 00:16:03,862 --> 00:16:07,866 It gave a good platform to reach from , from there. 195 00:16:08,233 --> 00:16:11,570 He sure got reactions like nobody else got. 196 00:16:11,703 --> 00:16:16,007 I mean , people would hiss, boo, cheer, yell , but they never threw anything . 197 00:16:18,610 --> 00:16:21,179 You know, and amazingly enough , 198 00:16:22,314 --> 00:16:25,317 people would listen , they'd pay attention , and they would react. 199 00:16:25,550 --> 00:16:26,952 It was scary. 200 00:16:27,052 --> 00:16:28,887 It was. . . Of course, it was thrilling . 201 00:16:28,987 --> 00:16:32,257 It was just one of those things, you know, 202 00:16:33,391 --> 00:16:37,395 that you don't experience them kind of feelings too often in life, you know? 203 00:16:38,330 --> 00:16:39,698 I'm glad we got through it. 204 00:16:40,398 --> 00:16:43,935 You know, time has a way of making everything look bigger than what it really is, 205 00:16:44,569 --> 00:16:46,505 and thank God for time. 206 00:16:58,817 --> 00:17:02,888 Because of his ability to bring into his music all these other influences, 207 00:17:03,154 --> 00:17:05,257 he tied a lot of loose ends up for people. 208 00:17:05,357 --> 00:17:10,095 I mean , having heard him as a folk musician or as a poet, whatever you want to call it, 209 00:17:10,295 --> 00:17:12,864 and then having heard him later with different rock and roll bands, 210 00:17:12,964 --> 00:17:14,866 especially with , for instance, The Band , 211 00:17:15,300 --> 00:17:18,837 to me, it's one of those artists that I really always want to hear the new album 212 00:17:18,937 --> 00:17:21,273 because I've got no idea where he's gonna take it next, 213 00:17:21,373 --> 00:17:25,310 and that's, I think, the most important aspect of him , 214 00:17:25,443 --> 00:17:27,412 is that he moves so fast 215 00:17:28,179 --> 00:17:30,048 that you really almost can't keep up with him , 216 00:17:30,282 --> 00:17:34,452 and when you're just starting to like what he did on this album , 217 00:17:34,553 --> 00:17:35,787 he's gone, you know? 218 00:18:31,943 --> 00:18:33,778 I started out busking and stuff with the guitar, 219 00:18:33,878 --> 00:18:36,781 and I always did Bob Dylan songs, and he kept me alive. 220 00:18:36,915 --> 00:18:38,316 He literally kept me alive. 221 00:18:38,416 --> 00:18:39,851 Like, if it wasn't for him , 222 00:18:39,951 --> 00:18:44,522 I would not have survived my life growing up. 223 00:18:44,756 --> 00:18:49,894 Like, he was the one thing that was there that told me I wasn't crazy 224 00:18:49,995 --> 00:18:52,297 and that I was going to survive and stay alive. 225 00:19:10,515 --> 00:19:13,451 He made me see that pop music could be about real feelings, 226 00:19:13,718 --> 00:19:15,153 that you could really write about... 227 00:19:15,253 --> 00:19:16,855 That it was like poetry or something 228 00:19:17,222 --> 00:19:20,058 and that you could do that and you didn't have to write about... 229 00:19:20,425 --> 00:19:22,594 There was nothing . . . There were no rules, basically. 230 00:19:48,253 --> 00:19:51,056 One thing that Bob Dylan will always be a symbol of 231 00:19:51,156 --> 00:19:54,926 is the power behind the solo acoustic performance. 232 00:19:55,560 --> 00:20:01,366 And that no matter what kinds of innovations come about, 233 00:20:01,733 --> 00:20:03,501 technologically in the music world , 234 00:20:04,035 --> 00:20:07,672 that that will still , I think, be the most direct way 235 00:20:07,872 --> 00:20:11,910 that you can connect to an audience and that you can present a song . 236 00:20:24,255 --> 00:20:29,394 He made it all right for people to be political in their art and music 237 00:20:29,694 --> 00:20:31,362 and the songs that they write. 238 00:20:31,730 --> 00:20:33,698 And the problems are still there, 239 00:20:33,798 --> 00:20:35,200 and we're still singing about them , 240 00:20:35,300 --> 00:20:39,537 and it still costs people to sing about them , you know? 241 00:20:40,105 --> 00:20:43,742 It's like I manage to get myself in trouble half the time. 242 00:20:43,842 --> 00:20:46,678 Willie and I got ourselves banned off of... 243 00:20:46,778 --> 00:20:49,547 The FBI got us banned off a couple radio stations 244 00:20:49,647 --> 00:20:51,950 for doing a concert for Leonard Peltier 245 00:20:52,584 --> 00:20:56,721 down in California. 246 00:20:57,188 --> 00:21:00,692 Or songs for the. . . I've sung for the Sandinistas. 247 00:21:01,459 --> 00:21:06,531 That's not popular in Reagan America or Bush America, you know? 248 00:21:21,012 --> 00:21:23,248 The really remarkable contribution of Bob Dylan 249 00:21:23,348 --> 00:21:28,486 is that he took black rural blues and white folk music, rock and roll 250 00:21:28,586 --> 00:21:33,725 and the kind of Allen Ginsberg Beat poetry literary sensibility 251 00:21:33,825 --> 00:21:35,059 and combined them all . 252 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:37,095 He was really the first to do that. 253 00:21:37,262 --> 00:21:40,865 For me, I learned about Allen Ginsberg through Bob Dylan , 254 00:21:40,965 --> 00:21:42,767 I learned about Howlin' Wolf through Bob Dylan . 255 00:21:42,867 --> 00:21:49,107 He was a musicology course at university for me really, 256 00:21:49,207 --> 00:21:52,277 and I think his synthesis is the basis 257 00:21:52,377 --> 00:21:55,513 of all the rock and roll that came subsequent. 258 00:22:11,162 --> 00:22:15,099 There was a time when the music industry, I didn't think, 259 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:19,370 took that much time to recognize the writer of a song . 260 00:22:19,504 --> 00:22:21,840 When I first started in the music business, 261 00:22:21,940 --> 00:22:24,409 there was a lot of guys that recorded songs, 262 00:22:24,843 --> 00:22:29,581 and the guy who sang the songs became very popular, 263 00:22:29,981 --> 00:22:32,550 but the person who wrote the songs, you very rarely heard his name, 264 00:22:33,051 --> 00:22:35,220 and then in the '60s, I think, 265 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:36,955 they started listening more to lyrics, 266 00:22:37,055 --> 00:22:38,957 and they started giving the writers more credit. 267 00:22:39,357 --> 00:22:42,260 I know that helped me a lot because a lot of my songs 268 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:43,962 were recorded by other people, 269 00:22:44,062 --> 00:22:45,797 and if it hadn't been for disc jockeys 270 00:22:45,897 --> 00:22:48,099 and writers and the press saying , "Well , here's a song 271 00:22:48,199 --> 00:22:51,870 "sung by Faron Young , written by Willie Nelson ." 272 00:22:53,137 --> 00:22:55,807 That type of recognition is really good for the writer, 273 00:22:55,907 --> 00:22:58,643 and I think that came along pretty much about the same time 274 00:22:58,743 --> 00:23:01,646 that Bob Dylan's popularity started growing . 275 00:23:31,910 --> 00:23:35,079 You don't have this body of standards anymore, 276 00:23:35,179 --> 00:23:36,648 where Frank Sinatra and Tony Bennett, 277 00:23:36,748 --> 00:23:38,950 where they might have recorded the same songs 278 00:23:39,050 --> 00:23:41,219 and you had a series of classics written by other people. 279 00:23:41,719 --> 00:23:46,090 I think it probably makes for more personal music 280 00:23:46,190 --> 00:23:50,795 to have the songwriter singing something that he wrote 281 00:23:50,895 --> 00:23:51,996 that comes from his own heart. 282 00:23:52,330 --> 00:23:54,232 I think the great thing about Bob is that 283 00:23:54,933 --> 00:23:58,102 he's one of the handful who've really managed to unite both . 284 00:23:58,202 --> 00:24:00,204 He's so eloquent for himself. 285 00:24:11,349 --> 00:24:12,517 I like his style. 286 00:24:12,617 --> 00:24:14,786 I like the way he writes, 287 00:24:14,886 --> 00:24:16,454 I like the independence, 288 00:24:16,554 --> 00:24:19,524 I like the attitude that he comes from . 289 00:24:21,225 --> 00:24:24,228 Well , Bob Dylan and I , by the way, have written a song together, 290 00:24:24,429 --> 00:24:26,931 and yesterday, I recorded another one of his songs, 291 00:24:27,432 --> 00:24:30,001 so I'll be seeing him in New York, 292 00:24:30,101 --> 00:24:32,804 and we'll be hopefully singing some together, 293 00:24:33,104 --> 00:24:35,106 and I'm looking forward to that, 294 00:24:35,206 --> 00:24:38,609 and I'm a big Bob Dylan fan . 295 00:25:03,001 --> 00:25:04,002 Forget it. 296 00:25:12,310 --> 00:25:13,845 Oh , man . Like I was saying , 297 00:25:13,945 --> 00:25:17,715 if there's a party, take the clock down , put the calendar up 298 00:25:17,882 --> 00:25:19,817 because I need it. 299 00:25:32,730 --> 00:25:33,798 He kind of came in the era 300 00:25:33,898 --> 00:25:36,367 when I was buying records by anybody that had long hair 301 00:25:36,634 --> 00:25:38,870 or anybody that came from England , you know? 302 00:25:38,970 --> 00:25:40,104 It was kind of that kind of a thing , 303 00:25:40,204 --> 00:25:41,773 and I had heard the name Bob Dylan , I saw him . 304 00:25:42,006 --> 00:25:43,007 In those days you knew... 305 00:25:43,107 --> 00:25:46,811 If you saw somebody on an album cover that didn't look like the Four Seasons 306 00:25:46,911 --> 00:25:49,047 or didn't look like The Supremes, you thought, "This is hip." 307 00:25:49,547 --> 00:25:53,184 And I said , "Well , I'm gonna buy this because this guy is. . . Look at him . 308 00:25:53,284 --> 00:25:55,486 "He's cool ! He's got a motorcycle t-shirt, Triumph , 309 00:25:55,586 --> 00:25:58,256 "and the cool boots and the hair and everything ." 310 00:25:58,356 --> 00:26:00,792 So I started listening , and I said , "Wow! " 311 00:26:01,025 --> 00:26:02,226 I said , "That's a sound ." 312 00:26:13,104 --> 00:26:15,239 I was just very young when I first heard the music. 313 00:26:15,339 --> 00:26:17,909 I was just a teenager, so it was a little heavy stuff 314 00:26:18,009 --> 00:26:20,711 for a kid that had been used to listening to Herman's Hermits or something , 315 00:26:20,812 --> 00:26:22,880 and you could tell it was an incredible departure 316 00:26:22,980 --> 00:26:25,216 from that style of music, and it was unique. 317 00:26:25,550 --> 00:26:27,385 And I listened to it, I said , "This guy is saying something . 318 00:26:27,485 --> 00:26:29,687 "I don't know what it is, but it's something unique, 319 00:26:29,787 --> 00:26:30,888 "and it's something different, 320 00:26:30,988 --> 00:26:33,091 "and it's something different than going to gym class." 321 00:27:49,934 --> 00:27:51,869 That sounds so good , you know? 322 00:27:52,136 --> 00:27:54,639 I don't want to put guitar and drums with that. 323 00:27:54,939 --> 00:28:00,711 I remember when my dad did Nashville Skyline with Dylan . 324 00:28:01,212 --> 00:28:03,347 I said , "Okay. My dad's cool ." 325 00:28:06,551 --> 00:28:07,818 Girl from the North Country? 326 00:28:07,919 --> 00:28:09,520 Yeah , Girl from the North Country. 327 00:28:09,620 --> 00:28:13,424 I thought, "Well , my father's now acceptable to me." 328 00:28:14,926 --> 00:28:16,060 In a deep way. 329 00:28:31,375 --> 00:28:34,212 He is absolutely the standard for a singer-songwriter. 330 00:28:34,312 --> 00:28:35,846 I mean , I've studied his lyrics. 331 00:28:35,947 --> 00:28:39,116 You know, he's it. 332 00:28:39,250 --> 00:28:42,787 It's like if you're writing a good song and you want to compare it to something 333 00:28:42,887 --> 00:28:44,188 to see how it stands up, 334 00:28:44,322 --> 00:28:46,390 I think Dylan is the ultimate litmus test. 335 00:28:50,861 --> 00:28:56,133 It's almost impossible to articulate his sense of imagery, 336 00:28:56,234 --> 00:28:59,036 the way he unravels an emotional thread , 337 00:28:59,136 --> 00:29:01,973 his use of literature. 338 00:29:02,206 --> 00:29:05,309 -I don't know. I mean , he's Bob Dylan . -I know. 339 00:29:05,409 --> 00:29:06,510 What am I gonna say? 340 00:29:06,611 --> 00:29:08,246 I know. That's what everybody says. 341 00:29:25,730 --> 00:29:28,866 I just got back from a tour through Europe and Japan , 342 00:29:29,367 --> 00:29:32,770 and one of the albums I took with me to listen to on the road 343 00:29:32,870 --> 00:29:37,275 was the Dylan box set CDs Biograph . 344 00:29:37,475 --> 00:29:41,879 And there was one song I kept listening to continuously 345 00:29:42,013 --> 00:29:44,015 because I loved it so much , and it's Foot of Pride. 346 00:29:44,782 --> 00:29:48,019 So when this show went down , they said , "What song you want to do?" 347 00:29:48,853 --> 00:29:51,489 I knew no one else was going for that one. 348 00:29:52,923 --> 00:29:54,558 It's a lot of lyrics to it, 349 00:29:54,659 --> 00:29:58,629 and he sings really. . . Really swings on the lyric, 350 00:29:58,963 --> 00:30:00,765 so I said immediately Foot of Pride, 351 00:30:00,865 --> 00:30:05,069 because I had been listening to it practically every day for 8 months. 352 00:30:05,403 --> 00:30:06,837 I mean , I like the song a lot. 353 00:30:07,338 --> 00:30:08,806 That was fun . 354 00:30:10,574 --> 00:30:12,376 I was in a car with my uncle, 355 00:30:12,476 --> 00:30:15,212 and he had this little Panasonic tape recorder. 356 00:30:15,313 --> 00:30:16,981 It was a beat-up Volkswagen , 357 00:30:17,081 --> 00:30:19,283 and I remember the windshield was smashed 358 00:30:19,383 --> 00:30:22,420 because he was mad at his girlfriend , and he hit it, 359 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:25,256 and he was listening to, I think, Tangled U p In Blue. 360 00:30:25,356 --> 00:30:26,457 That was the first thing I remember, 361 00:30:26,557 --> 00:30:28,993 and he listened to it over and over and over and over, 362 00:30:29,226 --> 00:30:32,697 and I think it got him through that period , 363 00:30:32,797 --> 00:30:36,334 and it stuck in my head and never left really. 364 00:31:08,833 --> 00:31:10,501 I think it's an amazing song . 365 00:31:10,735 --> 00:31:13,504 Hopefully we'll get through it. I know we will , but it's... 366 00:31:13,838 --> 00:31:15,172 It's a heavy song . 367 00:31:15,272 --> 00:31:16,607 It's a very heavy song , 368 00:31:17,141 --> 00:31:19,477 quite anti-establishment, war-mongering , 369 00:31:19,877 --> 00:31:21,612 and in this climate and period in time, 370 00:31:21,712 --> 00:31:25,015 I think it's a good time to sing that song . 371 00:31:25,483 --> 00:31:27,785 It's relevant today as it was 30 years ago or 20 years ago. 372 00:31:27,885 --> 00:31:30,254 Classic works of art always seem to be timeless, 373 00:31:30,354 --> 00:31:32,423 and this is another example. 374 00:31:40,564 --> 00:31:42,333 Yesterday at rehearsal , 375 00:31:42,700 --> 00:31:45,569 he came in for about half an hour, 376 00:31:45,836 --> 00:31:49,106 and he was there, and we were rehearsing stuff 377 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:52,376 that we were trying to make rigid and static for the show. 378 00:31:52,476 --> 00:31:55,446 He came in and just started something else, 379 00:31:55,546 --> 00:31:58,883 which was his way of imprinting himself on the situation , 380 00:31:59,250 --> 00:32:01,385 and we had to kind of. . . It was like a jam , really. 381 00:32:47,665 --> 00:32:50,000 We took it somewhere, no one knew what it was 382 00:32:50,100 --> 00:32:52,236 or if it was meant to be part of anything , 383 00:32:52,470 --> 00:32:54,338 and then he was very happy, 384 00:32:54,672 --> 00:32:57,308 you know, because he kind of declared himself being there. 385 00:32:57,842 --> 00:32:59,143 And about 1 0 minutes later, 386 00:32:59,243 --> 00:33:01,278 he sort of edged his way to the door 387 00:33:01,946 --> 00:33:03,914 and sat there while I did some more stuff, 388 00:33:04,014 --> 00:33:05,516 and next thing I knew, he was gone. 389 00:33:05,716 --> 00:33:06,784 And that's the way I've always... 390 00:33:06,884 --> 00:33:10,521 My relationship with Bob has. . . Even when I met him in '66, 391 00:33:10,621 --> 00:33:14,391 we were in the studio playing , the next minute, he wasn't in the room , 392 00:33:14,592 --> 00:33:17,228 and I said to one of his friends, "Where's Bob gone?" 393 00:33:17,328 --> 00:33:18,996 They said , "Oh , he's gone to Madrid ." 394 00:33:20,598 --> 00:33:23,200 You know? "He's gone to Madrid ." 395 00:33:23,334 --> 00:33:24,602 "Okay." 396 00:33:26,036 --> 00:33:28,305 How are we gonna know when the last one is? 397 00:33:28,973 --> 00:33:31,742 Today, we had a rehearsal with Eric Clapton 398 00:33:32,076 --> 00:33:36,013 and George Harrison , Bob Dylan , Tom Petty, Neil Young , 399 00:33:36,247 --> 00:33:38,382 and J im Keltner playing the drums, 400 00:33:38,749 --> 00:33:41,185 and it was an amazing band sound . 401 00:33:41,285 --> 00:33:44,788 I mean . . . N ine guitars, but they were controlled . 402 00:33:44,989 --> 00:33:48,025 It wasn't like a total out of. . . Everybody was playing in sync. 403 00:34:03,307 --> 00:34:08,746 I think that what Bob Dylan did really was make consciousness popular as music. 404 00:34:09,547 --> 00:34:15,986 The ability to get that across on the radio and have them repeat that story is a big feat 405 00:34:16,453 --> 00:34:17,688 in the music business. 406 00:34:24,461 --> 00:34:28,499 You know what? You forget sometimes some of the hits that he did write. 407 00:34:29,066 --> 00:34:31,068 You hear them a lot, and they've been redone and redone, 408 00:34:31,201 --> 00:34:33,237 and they've sort of become somebody else's song . 409 00:34:33,537 --> 00:34:37,408 You're not always looking at the label copy, and you forget that it was a Bob Dylan song . 410 00:34:37,508 --> 00:34:38,842 You know, it's amazing . 411 00:34:43,180 --> 00:34:45,482 If I was any more excited , I'd probably faint. 412 00:34:48,385 --> 00:34:51,422 Like, man , I'm just not shaking because I'm Lou Reed , and I'm pretty cool . 413 00:34:58,596 --> 00:35:01,765 You know, I've loved him folk, I've loved him rock, 414 00:35:01,865 --> 00:35:04,201 I've loved him country, I've loved him gospel . 415 00:35:04,568 --> 00:35:05,903 At the end of the day, as far as I'm concerned , 416 00:35:06,003 --> 00:35:07,071 he's a folk singer, 417 00:35:07,404 --> 00:35:09,273 and he's still doing what he's been doing . 418 00:35:09,707 --> 00:35:13,510 For years and years, he's never bought into any of the nonsense. 419 00:35:16,513 --> 00:35:18,349 That's why I'm here for this. 420 00:35:18,482 --> 00:35:19,617 He really helped my career, 421 00:35:20,484 --> 00:35:23,220 and we became good friends, 422 00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:28,359 and we still remain good friends over all that large period of time, 423 00:35:29,259 --> 00:35:33,263 and , I mean , to me, he's Bob, 424 00:35:34,198 --> 00:35:35,633 and he's a great guy. 425 00:35:53,117 --> 00:35:55,119 Thirty years is a long span of years, 426 00:35:55,219 --> 00:35:58,355 and I started thinking , "Where was I 30 years ago?" 427 00:35:58,889 --> 00:36:02,926 And it's an amazing feat to remain as popular as he has 428 00:36:03,627 --> 00:36:07,031 for 30 years, and I congratulate him . 429 00:36:26,750 --> 00:36:27,851 Yeah . 430 00:36:28,919 --> 00:36:30,454 I'd pay to hear that. 431 00:36:30,521 --> 00:36:31,889 That works. 432 00:36:34,758 --> 00:36:35,793 -Hey, Tom . -How are you? 433 00:36:35,893 --> 00:36:37,561 Good . How are you? 434 00:38:52,196 --> 00:38:53,230 Okay. 435 00:38:53,964 --> 00:38:56,066 As long as I can read it, I guess it will be cool . 436 00:38:56,166 --> 00:38:58,535 J ust put it up there like that. Like a hymn . 36874

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