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Dylan did what the best poets
all through the ages have done.
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He took that which he found
when he looked around him ,
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and he made it better before he moved on .
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I think that it was probably
when Tommy and I were working
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in a place called The Fifth Peg ,
Gerde's Folk City.
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And we were doing a regular gig there,
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and on Monday nights,
there was a hootenanny night,
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and I remember looking down at the bar
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and saying , "Is that a fella or a girl?"
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And there was this young , fresh-faced lad ,
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and he came up to us afterwards.
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He had a presence.
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He had something special .
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He got up and sang
and he started playing the piano.
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"By God , this fella has talent.
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"There's more
to this fella than meets the eye."
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As time went by, I remember,
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we were together at the bar one night,
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and Paddy had gotten him a job playing
the harmonica on Columbia Records,
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backing up Carolyn Hester,
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this folk singer from Texas.
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And during the coffee breaks,
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he started singing his
songs to John Hammond .
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Who was the A&R man
at Columbia Records.
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He got a contract out of that,
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and the record started selling .
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He came to me at the bar one night,
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and he said , "Hey, Liam .
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"My records are selling
nearly as much as yours."
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Welcome to Madison Square Garden .
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This is Bob Dylan's night.
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On March 1 9 in 1 962,
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Columbia Records released
the first album by a new artist, Bob Dylan .
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Now 30 years, 38 albums,
and over 500 songs later,
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Bob Dylan's universally recognized
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as one of the most powerful
creative artists of our time.
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Backstage, we have one
of the greatest collections
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of performing artists ever assembled ,
and they're all here for one reason ,
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to pay tribute to Bob Dylan
through his own songs.
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How you gonna top this?
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I think the main thing about all of this is that
here is a guy who is really deserving of this.
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This is not some made-up thing
from some promotional stunt.
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I mean , Bob Dylan really deserves...
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Whatever we're gonna be doing tonight
is paying tribute to his music.
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I mean , it's awesome
what this man has done.
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I was at rehearsal the other day,
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and there I was playing guitar,
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and I look to my left,
and there's Steve Cropper,
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to my right is "Duck" Dunn ,
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Booker T. is on the keyboard ,
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I got G . E. Smith .
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We had so much fun . . .
It was one of those things
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where it was so much fun ,
how could it be legal?
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J ust seeing Eric Clapton play
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and watching Neil Young rehearse
before that was just so awe-inspiring ,
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I wanted to cry.
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It was very cool .
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I think I was more nervous than anything .
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See, I'm fine. I keep my cool
around all these cats, you know?
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-I try to.
-Try to be cool .
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-I'm trying to.
-It's hopeless.
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Well , I couldn't not be here.
I have to be here.
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Anything with Bob, I'd probably be hurt
if I was left out, you know?
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I mean , being here with all these people
from Neil to...
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Oh , God . How do you start naming them all?
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It was really great, the rehearsals,
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seeing everybody all in the same room
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and everybody there
for the same reason , really.
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And what was really great, too,
was to see Bob say...
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Ask somebody,
"Is there a bridge in this song?"
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Well , it's very daunting to think about it,
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you know, to go through , like, 720 songs
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and you've got to work out
which one you want to do,
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which is your favorite.
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Then I saw a list of songs
that hadn't been done
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that were more of the classics.
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I mean , in a show like this, I think it's good
to do the classics because it's a tribute.
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It would be hard to categorize
what Bob's done songwriting-wise
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because he's written
so many coverable classics,
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and then he's done so many songs
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which it doesn't matter who sings them ,
they're always gonna sound like him ,
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and his storytelling is quite incredible.
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We watched Eric Clapton
run through something ,
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and he went, "Well , if that doesn't
bring the house down , nothing will ."
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I was in a band called The Yardbirds,
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and the bass player was
mad about Bob Dylan ,
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and that was enough reason
for me to hate him , really,
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because this particular guy
was a very big folk music fan ,
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and I had no interest in folk music,
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and my attitude
in those days was very purist.
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I didn't like anything ...
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Didn't like any musician
who was alive, for one thing ,
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and who was other than black.
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And a young white folk singer
was not interesting to me
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until I saw the cover of
The Times They Are A-Changin',
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and this guy looked so ravaged
and old for a young man .
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It was as good as being black in a way
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in that he was old , you know,
in this young body,
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and it sort of triggered something .
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I still can't figure out what,
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but I bought the record
and was immediately converted .
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I used to work in the Brill building ,
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and my job was to listen to the radio
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and write songs like Frank Sinatra
or Bobby V.
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Right around that time,
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Dylan was writing his own songs
and singing them ,
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and switched over from folk to rock,
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and I think the impact
on the whole music business
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was tremendous because Tin Pan Alley went
out of business after that.
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When I first heard Tambourine Man ,
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I wasn't sure that
it was gonna be a hit single.
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It didn't sound like the kind of thing
that was on the radio at the time,
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which was I Want To Hold Your Hand
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or She Loves You .
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Radio was very particular
about how long a song could be.
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Two, three minutes was the most time
you could get on a hit single.
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This song was, like, five or six minutes long ,
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but what we did was
we changed it to one verse
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and changed the time signature
from 2/4 to 4/4,
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and I put a little Bach-like intro to it,
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and gave it a little kick.
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I was thinking about it last night,
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and I was thinking about how music
has always been like religion to me.
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It's the only way I can even relate
to the meaning of religion
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is that music was that for me,
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and it felt like yesterday we were in the room
with maybe 1 0 of the 1 2 apostles
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or something like that.
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It was like the
Mount Rushmore of rock and roll
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except with more than four faces.
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It was incredible.
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I've been so concerned
about trying not to make mistakes tonight
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that I haven't had a chance to...
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Assess the value of what we're doing here.
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There's so much respect for Dylan .
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I mean , really, he's driven ,
I think, a lot of careers.
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Obviously.
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There was a moment on Blonde on Blonde,
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where it was about 3: 00 in the morning ,
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and we were recording something ,
and I was playing ,
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and I started playing
this mind game with myself,
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which was the experience that
I had playing on H ighway 61 .
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I realized after that that some of this music
that we were doing was gonna live forever.
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And so I got into this mind game of,
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"Well , wherever you put your finger next
is gonna be there in , like, 1 00 years."
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And then I just slapped
myself in the face mentally
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and said , "Please don't do this.
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"J ust play the song ."
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I mean , he has never made a bad album ,
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and I always buy whatever the new album is
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because there's always something there
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that will really knock me out.
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I think Dylan introduced the idea
of having a more complicated lyric
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as opposed to pop music.
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I mean , we all have
our own favorite pop songs.
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But it's talking about the type
of lyric involved with it
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and the complexity
of the lyric involved with it.
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He was truly the liberator of words
in rock and roll .
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Whereas rock and roll used
to be music of the body,
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he made it equally music of the mind ,
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and for that, we owe him a great debt.
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We're talking about poetry to music.
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The first time I heard J ust Like A Woman ,
it moved me,
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and how it moved me is
the same way I try to sing it.
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I mean , with the same feeling ,
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what I felt, what I felt
about what he was saying ,
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is inside of the song when I'm singing it.
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I heard him play in the Café Wha?
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There was absolutely magic, there was.
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What he was doing was something very new.
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It was an expressive voice through music.
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There was a great deal of spontaneousness.
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In spontaneity, I think,
there is a large bonding glue,
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you know, because if you're there,
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something is happening that isn't maybe
even gonna happen again ,
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and usually never does.
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I think this girl , a Canadian friend of ours
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that was working for Bob's manager,
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brought an album up to Toronto
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when we were playing one
of them Yonge Street bars.
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-Mary Martin .
-Mary Martin .
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I do believe
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that it was before H ighway 61 Revisited .
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It was Don't Think Twice, It's All Right,
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Oxford Town .
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And it was pretty remarkable.
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It was different at that time.
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Listening to the lyrics, you know,
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Bob was
definitely talking , making you think.
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When Bob went electric,
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you know, and started
adding all ourselves to the equation .
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-People like us.
-Yeah .
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Started adding
people like us to the equation ,
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with drums and with electric bass
and with electric guitars.
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It gave a good platform
to reach from , from there.
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He sure got reactions like nobody else got.
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I mean , people would hiss, boo, cheer, yell ,
but they never threw anything .
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You know, and amazingly enough ,
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people would listen , they'd pay attention ,
and they would react.
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It was scary.
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It was. . . Of course, it was thrilling .
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It was just one of those things, you know,
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that you don't experience them
kind of feelings too often in life, you know?
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I'm glad we got through it.
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You know, time has a way of making
everything look bigger than what it really is,
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and thank God for time.
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Because of his ability to bring
into his music all these other influences,
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he tied a lot of loose ends up for people.
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I mean , having heard him as a folk musician
or as a poet, whatever you want to call it,
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and then having heard him later
with different rock and roll bands,
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especially with , for instance, The Band ,
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to me, it's one of those artists that I really
always want to hear the new album
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because I've got no idea
where he's gonna take it next,
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and that's, I think,
the most important aspect of him ,
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is that he moves so fast
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that you really almost
can't keep up with him ,
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and when you're just starting to
like what he did on this album ,
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he's gone, you know?
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I started out busking and stuff
with the guitar,
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and I always did Bob Dylan songs,
and he kept me alive.
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He literally kept me alive.
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Like, if it wasn't for him ,
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I would not have survived
my life growing up.
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Like, he was the one thing
that was there that told me I wasn't crazy
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and that I was going to survive
and stay alive.
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He made me see that pop music
could be about real feelings,
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that you could really write about...
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That it was like poetry or something
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and that you could do that
and you didn't have to write about...
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There was nothing . . .
There were no rules, basically.
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One thing that Bob Dylan
will always be a symbol of
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is the power behind
the solo acoustic performance.
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And that no matter what kinds
of innovations come about,
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technologically in the music world ,
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that that will still ,
I think, be the most direct way
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that you can connect to an audience
and that you can present a song .
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He made it all right for people to be
political in their art and music
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and the songs that they write.
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And the problems are still there,
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and we're still singing about them ,
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and it still costs people
to sing about them , you know?
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It's like I manage to get myself
in trouble half the time.
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Willie and I got ourselves banned off of...
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The FBI got us banned
off a couple radio stations
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for doing a concert for Leonard Peltier
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down in California.
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Or songs for the. . .
I've sung for the Sandinistas.
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That's not popular in Reagan America
or Bush America, you know?
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The really remarkable
contribution of Bob Dylan
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is that he took black rural blues
and white folk music, rock and roll
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and the kind of Allen Ginsberg
Beat poetry literary sensibility
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and combined them all .
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He was really the first to do that.
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For me, I learned about
Allen Ginsberg through Bob Dylan ,
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I learned about Howlin' Wolf
through Bob Dylan .
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He was a musicology course
at university for me really,
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and I think his synthesis is the basis
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of all the rock and roll
that came subsequent.
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There was a time when the music industry,
I didn't think,
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took that much time to recognize
the writer of a song .
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When I first started in the music business,
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there was a lot of guys that recorded songs,
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and the guy who sang the songs
became very popular,
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but the person who wrote the songs,
you very rarely heard his name,
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and then in the '60s, I think,
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they started listening more to lyrics,
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and they started giving
the writers more credit.
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I know that helped me a lot
because a lot of my songs
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were recorded by other people,
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and if it hadn't been for disc jockeys
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and writers and the press
saying , "Well , here's a song
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"sung by Faron Young ,
written by Willie Nelson ."
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That type of recognition
is really good for the writer,
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and I think that came along
pretty much about the same time
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that Bob Dylan's popularity
started growing .
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You don't have
this body of standards anymore,
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where Frank Sinatra and Tony Bennett,
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where they might have
recorded the same songs
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and you had a series of classics
written by other people.
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I think it probably makes
for more personal music
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to have the songwriter
singing something that he wrote
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that comes from his own heart.
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I think the great thing about Bob is that
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he's one of the handful who've
really managed to unite both .
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He's so eloquent for himself.
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I like his style.
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I like the way he writes,
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I like the independence,
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I like the attitude that he comes from .
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Well , Bob Dylan and I , by the way,
have written a song together,
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and yesterday, I recorded
another one of his songs,
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so I'll be seeing him in New York,
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and we'll be hopefully
singing some together,
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and I'm looking forward to that,
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and I'm a big Bob Dylan fan .
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Forget it.
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Oh , man . Like I was saying ,
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if there's a party, take the clock down ,
put the calendar up
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because I need it.
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He kind of came in the era
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when I was buying records
by anybody that had long hair
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or anybody that came from England ,
you know?
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It was kind of that kind of a thing ,
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and I had heard
the name Bob Dylan , I saw him .
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In those days you knew...
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If you saw somebody on an album cover
that didn't look like the Four Seasons
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or didn't look like The Supremes,
you thought, "This is hip."
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And I said , "Well , I'm gonna buy this
because this guy is. . . Look at him .
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"He's cool !
He's got a motorcycle t-shirt, Triumph ,
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"and the cool boots
and the hair and everything ."
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So I started listening , and I said , "Wow! "
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I said , "That's a sound ."
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I was just very young
when I first heard the music.
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I was just a teenager,
so it was a little heavy stuff
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for a kid that had been used to listening
to Herman's Hermits or something ,
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and you could tell it was
an incredible departure
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from that style of music, and it was unique.
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And I listened to it, I said ,
"This guy is saying something .
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"I don't know what it is,
but it's something unique,
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"and it's something different,
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"and it's something different
than going to gym class."
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That sounds so good , you know?
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I don't want to put
guitar and drums with that.
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I remember when my dad did
Nashville Skyline with Dylan .
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I said , "Okay. My dad's cool ."
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Girl from the North Country?
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Yeah , Girl from the North Country.
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I thought, "Well , my father's
now acceptable to me."
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In a deep way.
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He is absolutely the standard
for a singer-songwriter.
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I mean , I've studied his lyrics.
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You know, he's it.
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It's like if you're writing a good song
and you want to compare it to something
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to see how it stands up,
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I think Dylan is the ultimate litmus test.
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It's almost impossible to articulate
his sense of imagery,
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the way he unravels an emotional thread ,
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his use of literature.
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-I don't know. I mean , he's Bob Dylan .
-I know.
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What am I gonna say?
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I know. That's what everybody says.
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I just got back from
a tour through Europe and Japan ,
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and one of the albums
I took with me to listen to on the road
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was the Dylan box set CDs Biograph .
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And there was one song
I kept listening to continuously
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because I loved it so much ,
and it's Foot of Pride.
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So when this show went down , they said ,
"What song you want to do?"
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I knew no one else was going for that one.
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It's a lot of lyrics to it,
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and he sings really. . .
Really swings on the lyric,
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so I said immediately Foot of Pride,
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because I had been listening
to it practically every day for 8 months.
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I mean , I like the song a lot.
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That was fun .
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I was in a car with my uncle,
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and he had this little
Panasonic tape recorder.
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It was a beat-up Volkswagen ,
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00:30:17,081 --> 00:30:19,283
and I remember the windshield
was smashed
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because he was mad
at his girlfriend , and he hit it,
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00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:25,256
and he was listening to, I think,
Tangled U p In Blue.
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That was the first thing I remember,
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00:30:26,557 --> 00:30:28,993
and he listened
to it over and over and over and over,
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and I think it got him through that period ,
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and it stuck in my head and never left really.
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I think it's an amazing song .
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Hopefully we'll get through it.
I know we will , but it's...
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It's a heavy song .
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It's a very heavy song ,
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quite anti-establishment, war-mongering ,
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and in this climate and period in time,
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I think it's a good time to sing that song .
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It's relevant today
as it was 30 years ago or 20 years ago.
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Classic works of art
always seem to be timeless,
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and this is another example.
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Yesterday at rehearsal ,
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he came in for about half an hour,
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and he was there,
and we were rehearsing stuff
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that we were trying to make
rigid and static for the show.
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00:31:52,476 --> 00:31:55,446
He came in and just started something else,
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which was his way of imprinting
himself on the situation ,
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and we had to kind of. . .
It was like a jam , really.
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We took it somewhere,
no one knew what it was
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or if it was meant to be part of anything ,
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00:32:52,470 --> 00:32:54,338
and then he was very happy,
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you know, because he kind of
declared himself being there.
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And about 1 0 minutes later,
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he sort of edged his way to the door
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and sat there while I did some more stuff,
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00:33:04,014 --> 00:33:05,516
and next thing I knew, he was gone.
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00:33:05,716 --> 00:33:06,784
And that's the way I've always...
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00:33:06,884 --> 00:33:10,521
My relationship with Bob has. . .
Even when I met him in '66,
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we were in the studio playing ,
the next minute, he wasn't in the room ,
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00:33:14,592 --> 00:33:17,228
and I said to one of his friends,
"Where's Bob gone?"
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They said , "Oh , he's gone to Madrid ."
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00:33:20,598 --> 00:33:23,200
You know? "He's gone to Madrid ."
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"Okay."
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How are we gonna know
when the last one is?
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Today, we had a rehearsal with Eric Clapton
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and George Harrison ,
Bob Dylan , Tom Petty, Neil Young ,
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and J im Keltner playing the drums,
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00:33:38,749 --> 00:33:41,185
and it was an amazing band sound .
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00:33:41,285 --> 00:33:44,788
I mean . . .
N ine guitars, but they were controlled .
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00:33:44,989 --> 00:33:48,025
It wasn't like a total out of. . .
Everybody was playing in sync.
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00:34:03,307 --> 00:34:08,746
I think that what Bob Dylan did really
was make consciousness popular as music.
404
00:34:09,547 --> 00:34:15,986
The ability to get that across on the radio
and have them repeat that story is a big feat
405
00:34:16,453 --> 00:34:17,688
in the music business.
406
00:34:24,461 --> 00:34:28,499
You know what? You forget sometimes
some of the hits that he did write.
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00:34:29,066 --> 00:34:31,068
You hear them a lot, and they've been
redone and redone,
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00:34:31,201 --> 00:34:33,237
and they've sort of become
somebody else's song .
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00:34:33,537 --> 00:34:37,408
You're not always looking at the label copy,
and you forget that it was a Bob Dylan song .
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00:34:37,508 --> 00:34:38,842
You know, it's amazing .
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If I was any more excited , I'd probably faint.
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00:34:48,385 --> 00:34:51,422
Like, man , I'm just not shaking
because I'm Lou Reed , and I'm pretty cool .
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00:34:58,596 --> 00:35:01,765
You know, I've loved him folk,
I've loved him rock,
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00:35:01,865 --> 00:35:04,201
I've loved him country,
I've loved him gospel .
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00:35:04,568 --> 00:35:05,903
At the end of the day,
as far as I'm concerned ,
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he's a folk singer,
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00:35:07,404 --> 00:35:09,273
and he's still doing what he's been doing .
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00:35:09,707 --> 00:35:13,510
For years and years, he's never bought
into any of the nonsense.
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That's why I'm here for this.
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He really helped my career,
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00:35:20,484 --> 00:35:23,220
and we became good friends,
422
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:28,359
and we still remain good friends
over all that large period of time,
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00:35:29,259 --> 00:35:33,263
and , I mean , to me, he's Bob,
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00:35:34,198 --> 00:35:35,633
and he's a great guy.
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00:35:53,117 --> 00:35:55,119
Thirty years is a long span of years,
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00:35:55,219 --> 00:35:58,355
and I started thinking ,
"Where was I 30 years ago?"
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00:35:58,889 --> 00:36:02,926
And it's an amazing feat
to remain as popular as he has
428
00:36:03,627 --> 00:36:07,031
for 30 years, and I congratulate him .
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00:36:26,750 --> 00:36:27,851
Yeah .
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00:36:28,919 --> 00:36:30,454
I'd pay to hear that.
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00:36:30,521 --> 00:36:31,889
That works.
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00:36:34,758 --> 00:36:35,793
-Hey, Tom .
-How are you?
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00:36:35,893 --> 00:36:37,561
Good . How are you?
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00:38:52,196 --> 00:38:53,230
Okay.
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00:38:53,964 --> 00:38:56,066
As long as I can read it,
I guess it will be cool .
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00:38:56,166 --> 00:38:58,535
J ust put it up there like that. Like a hymn .
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