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Hello?
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You know my name and what I do, right?
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Yes, I do.
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You are, what we would
classify as a whistleblower.
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Yes, that would be exactly what I am.
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Have you, spoken in front of congress?
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Yes, I have. Behind
closed doors, of course.
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Nothin' in a public setting yet.
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Right. I want to be able to share
this with the world, but I need proof.
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I could take you to one of these locations
that could prove that this stuff exists.
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So what are we talking about exactly?
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Antigravity, advanced weapons systems.
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There are technologies
out there that exist
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that is far more remarkable
compared to just transportation.
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Sounds like you're indicating that
the us military and its contractors
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are able to reproduce
this stuff on their own.
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Yes, they have, and they've been
doing that successfully for over 50 years.
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I mean, how... how can
we help you break this story?
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Is there a way that we can move
forward and have some solid proof
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that would convince anybody
that what you're saying is true?
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Well, I... I'm working on it.
It's a very hard place to be.
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I have to respect the safety of
these insiders as well as myself
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and anybody associated with this.
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And this also includes you, George.
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There is enormous amount of evidence
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to suggest that we do have
a nonhuman intelligence
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interacting with us on this planet.
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We don't know where they're from.
They can do things that we can't do.
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Our military knows
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that there is an intense, ongoing
interest by whatever they are
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in our most sensitive installations.
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Wow! What is that?
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This is real, and I'm
right in the middle of it.
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My name is George knapp.
People know me as the ufo reporter.
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I've covered this story
from pretty much every angle
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for probably longer than any other
mainstream journalist in the country.
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All we want to know is what's going on.
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I didn't come into this topic
as some sort of a ufo believer.
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I always approached it as a news story.
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But after talking to eyewitnesses...
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What's going on up there could be
the most important event in history.
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The experts... Extraterrestrial hypothesis
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is entirely viable and,
in my view, reasonable.
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And following the
evidence all over the world,
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it's impossible for me
to explain it all away.
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But for so long, the truth
has been kept under wraps
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because of social stigma
and government secrecy.
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Someone said, "you open your mouth,
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and that's the end of
your retirement pay."
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People who came forward
could face real consequences.
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The government has lied to us
about ufos, has withheld information,
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has spied on ufo organizations,
and has discredited ufo witnesses.
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It was very brutal.
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Some of the tactics they used
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hurt me both professionally and
personally, to be quite frank. Yeah.
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I was banging my head against a
brick wall for at least 20, 25 years,
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trying to get this topic
into the mainstream.
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And it seemed like a lost cause.
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But now, the whole
playing field has changed.
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We're looking at all types
of anomalous phenomena.
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And even congress are
now takin' this seriously.
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It's probably the most
credible ufo sighting in history.
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But the closer the public gets
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to the crashed saucers, to the bodies,
the harder the pushback is gonna be.
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We need to get beyond that
obvious question, "are ufos real?"
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To what really matters.
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Why are they here?
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And what do they want from us?
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We can handle it, can't we?
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So, we're on our way to klas-TV.
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That's the place where
I've worked since 1981.
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My day job for 43 years has been
a reporter at klas-TV Las Vegas.
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- I'm ready when you are.
- We are ready.
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In three, two...
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Area 51 still reigns as
a contradiction in terms,
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the world's best-known secret base.
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What whiz-bang tech might be
brewing out there in the shadows?
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George knapp, 8 news now.
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I had no idea when I moved
here what Las Vegas was all about.
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I didn't know there was a place
called area 51, or a Nevada test site,
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the most nuked place in the world.
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Didn't know about nellis air force base.
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So many secrets are hidden here,
some of which have come to light.
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But most are still shrouded in mystery.
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Ufos found me, instead
of the other way around.
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They walked in the door at klas one day.
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A guy named John lear, whose father,
bill lear, had developed the Learjet.
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He walked into the station
with this big stack of documents.
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He put 'em on the desk of my boss
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and said, "this is the
biggest story of your career."
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"It's about the ufo cover-up.
It's gonna make you famous."
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My boss read four or five pages,
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pushed the pile back, and
said, "this can't be true."
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"If it were true, I'd already know about it."
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Before lear left the station, I said,
"hey, let me take a look at that stuff."
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At the time, I produced a little talk show.
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I decided to see if
lear would do the show.
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And I put him on and just let him go.
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I got really interested in
this about two years ago.
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My father saw a ufo, and my brother did.
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And he out... comes,
spilling this amazing story.
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George, I'll give you the bottom line.
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I have found out that the
government has retrieved
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between ten and 15
actual flying saucers.
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They have between 30 and 50
alien bodies, in cryogenic storage.
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They represent at least
five different civilizations.
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Initially, I was skeptical.
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But as soon as it aired,
the public started calling.
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It was absolutely astonishing.
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And I saw this huge
saucer-shaped vehicle.
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Yes, there has been an
alien visitation. They're here.
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I do know what I saw. It wasn't
a plane. Wasn't a helicopter.
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I started getting dozens, then
hundreds of messages, then thousands.
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And eventually, over time,
people inside the government,
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people who really did know the secrets
started talking to me and trusting me.
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This is something that
we should be studying.
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A lot of the information
that was shared with me,
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I sat on for a long time.
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But nothing stays secret forever.
And eventually, the dam broke.
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December 2017, the New
York times comes out with a story
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that revealed the existence of a
previously unknown government program
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that investigated ufos.
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Right after the New York
times story comes out,
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congress starts having
hearings behind closed doors,
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hearing from witnesses,
under oath, about ufos.
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If we have things flying over
our airspace that is not ours,
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do not coordinate with
us, doesn't belong there,
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that is the definition of danger.
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And last year, we started getting hints
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from members of congress that
they wanted to have a hearing,
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and they were looking for good witnesses,
and they asked for help lining them up.
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These were some of the most
decorated high-ranking officials
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to ever go public about ufo encounters.
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These objects were approaching some
of the security guards at rapid speeds
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before darting off.
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It completely disabled
the radar on the aircraft.
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It's far beyond, actually,
our material science
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that we currently possess.
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If you believe we have crashed craft,
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do we have the bodies of
the pilots who piloted this craft?
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Biologics came with some
of these recoveries, yeah.
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Were they, I guess, human
or nonhuman biologics?
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Nonhuman, and that was the
assessment of people with direct knowledge
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on the program I talked to that
are currently still on the program.
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Dave grusch testified that there
are crash-retrieval operations,
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that there is a
reverse-engineering program,
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that we've recovered technology
that's beyond anything that we have.
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All those rumors we've been
hearing for years? It's true.
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And I had a front row
seat for the whole thing.
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I know I saw in the
crowd there George knapp.
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Breaking area 51. He's
the reason I knew about that.
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The window is now open
wider than it's ever been before
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to tackle these big questions.
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So I'm putting my decades of
knowledge, connections, and special access
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to carve out a new path,
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figuring out why they're here
and what they want from us.
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This is the opportunity I've
been waiting for for 37 years,
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and I intend to make the most of it.
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This is serious. It's been
serious for a long time,
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and it's been ignored for way too long.
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So, I had this phone conversation
out in the desert the other day
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with a guy who wants to remain
anonymous, but I figured out who he is.
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I know the name.
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I ran this name past somebody
that I've known for a long time
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and whose judgment I trust
to see if he's the real deal,
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if we could confirm
anything of what he said.
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And it turns out we did.
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The guy I asked said this,
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"I think he's a genuine guy."
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"He did indeed speak to the hill
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and to the Pentagon's new office
investigating ufos called arrow."
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So two of the things
that that witness told us.
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And this guy I know says both are true.
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He seems legit.
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The next thing I want
to do is set up a meeting.
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But he's not ready to commit to that yet.
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So, in the meantime, I'm
gonna focus my attention
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on the biggest question at hand.
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Why are they here?
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To start, you have to look at the
behaviors that people have observed
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time and again all around the world.
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Ufos are often spotted over military sites,
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so they could be coming
to monitor our capabilities.
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They seem to be
interested in our food supply
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and occasionally instigate
close encounters with humans,
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as if they're trying to understand who
we are and why we live the way we do.
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There it is again.
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Most of the time, they
only reveal themselves
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to one person or a small
group for a brief moment.
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And then they disappear.
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Sometimes, they make
their presence known
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to thousands of people
all at the same time.
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Is this a show of force or an
attempt at communication?
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Whatever this phenomena is,
it's smart. It's smarter than us.
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This might be more of
an intelligence operation
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to gather disparate series of threads
into some kind of a... a unified tapestry
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that explains the phenomena
we've been witnessing
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for the past 70-plus years.
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And the first thread I want
to pull on is a new lead
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in one of the most widespread
ufo mysteries of them all.
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Animal mutilations.
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Today, nearly 15,000 mutilation reports
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have been received.
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Most often, the phantom
surgeons remove sex organs,
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udders, rectums, eyes, or ears.
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The animal mutilations is
maybe the most perplexing part
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of the whole larger ufo picture.
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These things have
happened all over the world.
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The carcasses are
usually drained of blood,
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but blood is rarely found on the ground.
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There are occasional burn marks,
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and the cutting is performed
with scalpel-like precision.
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I started looking into animal
mutilations in the late '80s.
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We had a rash of cases in
Nevada, in my home state.
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And to this day, we
don't know who's doing it,
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and we don't know why they're doing it,
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but strange aerial
activity has been reported
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in conjunction with these mutilations
since the beginning of the phenomena.
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Scattered stories of carved-up livestock
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and strange lights in the sky
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date back to the 1890s in the us,
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but it wasn't until the early 1970s
that a pattern began to emerge.
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What's the deal? Are
they harvesting cows?
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Are they doing their
own kind of investigation
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or a survey of our food chain?
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Are they messing with us
to see how we'll respond?
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We don't know the answers to this,
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but it does seem to be some
sort of a symbiotic connection
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between things in the
sky that are unidentified
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and these strange mystery mutilations
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that have happened all over
North America, all over the world.
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The lead I'm following up
on today is open and active.
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Ranchers in this part of Oregon
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have been reporting
these strange mutilations.
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There's a sheriff named Jeremiah
Holmes who's been looking into these cases.
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And like so many other
lawmen all over North America
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who've tried to get to the bottom
of this, this guy is perplexed.
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I'm hoping that by coming to
help investigate this mystery,
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we can get a better understanding
of why this keeps happening.
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And we need to consider all possibilities.
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So I decided to ask a close contact,
Doug laux, to meet me out here
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and to hopefully help
come up with some answers.
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I'm a former CIA case officer.
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In Hollywood parlance,
they would call that a spy.
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During my time in the agency, I
was an undercover field operative.
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You're going to live a life
of lies and a life of alias,
247
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but, it helps you to smoke out
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when people are lying
to you pretty quickly.
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What impresses me about Doug is
his boots-on-the-ground experience.
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I mean, he's put it all on the line.
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He knows about counterintelligence
and the tricks of the trade.
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- Good to see you.
- Same.
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He's not a ufo guy, so he
still has a set of fresh eyes
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and can look at this world
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in ways that maybe it's hard
for me to look at it anymore.
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- Thanks for meeting with us.
- You bet.
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We were told that you, were in ranching.
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- Before you were in law enforcement.
- I was.
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And maybe you had some experience
with this whole mutilation mystery before.
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- I did, yeah.
- What happened?
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So, in 2004, I was working on a
ranch down in southern Oregon,
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and, during my time there,
there was, several mutilations.
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I think I know the answer,
but were they solved?
264
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No.
265
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How many reports has
your department received?
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Since our first case in
2019, I believe that was,
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we've had a total of five.
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Were there any similarities
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between the five reports that
you've had where you can go,
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"this might be the same individual
who's doing these five things"?
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So, the reproductive organs are gone,
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ear was gone, tongue
was gone, nose was gone.
273
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Usually, part of the cheek was razor cut.
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There's some that say,
"well, we have the predators,
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we have the cults, we
have the extraterrestrial."
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There's some that'll
say it's the government.
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People have been trying
to debunk animal mutilations
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since they were first reported.
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Ranchers in new Mexico,
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when there first became sort
of an epidemic of mutilations,
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cows and... and, sheep and horses,
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they hired a former FBI agent to come in.
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It was a whitewash.
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He did minimal investigations
285
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and came back with a report that
has been cited over and over again.
286
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"Yeah, these are predators."
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"These are coyotes and
mountain lions doing this." It's not.
288
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Coyotes don't cut
things up with a scalpel.
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Some people like to say
it's gotta be devil worshipers.
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Well, where are these
laser-wielding beelzebubs?
291
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How do they keep from getting caught?
292
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Ten thousand cases, and not
one of 'em has ever been caught.
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Those are some pretty
stealthy devil worshipers.
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No lawman wants to
say, "maybe it's aliens."
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That, you know... you
don't wanna say that.
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Right. No.
297
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But there's something
weird going on here.
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I mean, as an investigator, we
can't investigate anything with a slant
299
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'cause then we could have
the potential of ignoring evidence
300
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that may say something else.
301
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The why sometimes answers the who.
302
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And so, if we don't have a
why, it doesn't help us find a who.
303
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I know ranchers don't always like to
come forward when these things happen.
304
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Who do you have who might talk to us?
305
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Dave hunt was the first... He
had the first case that I had.
306
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Didn't really want to
talk about it right at first.
307
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But, since then, he's been more, open,
308
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and it might be somebody
you guys can talk to.
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I know that, Grant county,
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harney county, crook
county, deschutes county
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recently, have all had cases.
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I'm definitely not going into this
investigation making any assumptions.
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But if I start to see patterns,
it's not a coincidence.
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It's a pattern.
315
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So, what's causing this repetition?
316
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Why is this happening?
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Something is effectuating this to happen.
318
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And I wanna know what it is.
319
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Sergeant Holmes helped
us secure two different leads
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on recent cattle mutilation incidents
that are around 200 miles apart.
321
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I'm gonna look into one of
Wheeler county's open cases,
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while Doug's gonna meet
with a former ranch manager
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in harney county.
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He's outside sergeant
Holmes's jurisdiction,
325
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but the case made waves
all across law enforcement
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in eastern Oregon.
327
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We're just pulling into
burns, Oregon, right now.
328
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Not the easiest town to
get to, I'll tell you that much.
329
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I have a contact here named Colby.
330
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He experienced directly
firsthand cattle mutilations.
331
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There's nothing better you can
do than come directly to the source
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and get it straight out
of the horse's mouth.
333
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From what I've heard of Colby,
he's not really a believer in aliens,
334
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and I can appreciate that,
335
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but the very fact he's
willing to speak with me at all,
336
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that means this guy
really wants answers.
337
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Colby?
338
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- Good morning. Doug?
- Doug laux.
339
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- Yeah. How are you?
- Nice to meet you.
340
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- Appreciate you meeting me this early.
- Absolutely. Happy to have you here.
341
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My name is Colby Marshall. I
grew up right here, in harney county.
342
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My family's been in this
community for about six generations.
343
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I'm raising my kids here now.
344
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I'm gonna lay these
out on the tailgate here.
345
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We had five range bulls that
were murdered and mutilated
346
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within a 24-hour period of time.
347
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Right up in here is where
my cowboy found the first bull,
348
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which was really a weird situation.
349
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But then after he found the second
bull, we knew something was goin' on.
350
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- Same day, two bulls? Yeah.
- Exactly right.
351
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We contacted the state police.
352
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We contacted the forest service.
353
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We got in touch with the county sheriff,
354
00:18:28,890 --> 00:18:32,956
and we had them all come out
and try to find forensic evidence
355
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that... that would lead us to somebody
that had perpetrated the crime.
356
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Including offering a $25,000 reward.
357
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It didn't yield anything.
358
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It'll be interesting to go and
take a look at what we'll see.
359
00:18:45,740 --> 00:18:47,176
Well, I'd like to see it in person,
360
00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:50,080
so if you're ready, I
mean, let's hop in and do it.
361
00:18:56,590 --> 00:19:00,026
Just made it over to a town called
fossil, Oregon, to meet Dave hunt.
362
00:19:00,050 --> 00:19:04,616
According to the sheriff, Dave
hunt is solid as the rock of Gibraltar.
363
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Absolute solid citizen. He
spent his entire life here.
364
00:19:08,350 --> 00:19:11,916
He's a fifth-generation rancher,
lived on this land for 70 years.
365
00:19:11,940 --> 00:19:14,996
It took us a while to talk him
into speaking with us about it.
366
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His neighbors are the same way.
367
00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:18,416
It's at least a dozen of his neighbors
368
00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:20,836
that we know of that
have had similar cases.
369
00:19:20,860 --> 00:19:24,176
They're not trying to become
celebrities or start a podcast.
370
00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:25,926
They want this to go away.
371
00:19:25,950 --> 00:19:28,766
I've chased these kind of
stories all over North America,
372
00:19:28,790 --> 00:19:30,686
and a lot of ranchers
don't wanna talk about it.
373
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Yeah, it's kind of tough to talk about
when you're born and raised around cattle,
374
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and you know everything they do
and everything that can happen to 'em,
375
00:19:38,460 --> 00:19:41,526
and then you see
something that isn't normal.
376
00:19:41,550 --> 00:19:44,576
You just, like, want
to sit on it for a little bit.
377
00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:47,366
So, tell me about your
animals, which ones you lost.
378
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The bull happened in December.
379
00:19:49,430 --> 00:19:52,666
The cow happened the
following June or July.
380
00:19:52,690 --> 00:19:54,836
I'm not the only person it happens to.
381
00:19:54,860 --> 00:19:57,876
There's, you know, in John
day and seneca and antelope.
382
00:19:57,900 --> 00:20:01,376
- And, you know, they're all around.
- How many total do you think in this area?
383
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A lot. Fifteen, 20.
384
00:20:03,110 --> 00:20:04,466
Over what period of time?
385
00:20:04,490 --> 00:20:07,556
In the last four years. Three, four years.
386
00:20:07,580 --> 00:20:09,976
I understand that you've
had some other weird stuff
387
00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:11,726
that happened preceding this.
388
00:20:11,750 --> 00:20:16,516
I don't know what caused 'em,
but we have a series of crop circles
389
00:20:16,540 --> 00:20:18,606
that come in the field.
390
00:20:18,630 --> 00:20:22,776
They're in a pattern, and
they kind of come and go.
391
00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:24,816
In the spring, you can
see 'em really good.
392
00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:28,076
And they happened about...
Around about the same time.
393
00:20:28,100 --> 00:20:32,866
Any strange things in the sky,
that you associate with this?
394
00:20:32,890 --> 00:20:34,576
Yeah, I have. I've seen
395
00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:38,956
I'm gonna call it a...
unidentified flying object.
396
00:20:38,980 --> 00:20:41,166
- Describe it.
- It was round.
397
00:20:41,190 --> 00:20:46,136
It had green rectangle
windows around the middle
398
00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:48,426
and round red ones around the top.
399
00:20:48,450 --> 00:20:50,016
How long was it sittin' there?
400
00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:52,766
Long enough for me to
go get a rifle to shoot at it.
401
00:20:52,790 --> 00:20:55,436
- Did you shoot?
- No, because this is a funny story.
402
00:20:55,460 --> 00:20:58,226
It's still sitting there, right?
And my wife called me,
403
00:20:58,250 --> 00:21:01,276
and I came out, I looked at it,
and I go, "I'm gonna shoot it."
404
00:21:01,300 --> 00:21:05,106
So, I've got a rifle, and the funniest thing,
405
00:21:05,130 --> 00:21:08,866
because it's sitting right there,
and as soon as I put the scope on it,
406
00:21:08,890 --> 00:21:10,010
disappeared.
407
00:21:10,510 --> 00:21:11,327
Just vanished?
408
00:21:11,351 --> 00:21:13,640
Did not go up, down, left, or right. Gone.
409
00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:17,416
I'm not surprised to hear
that there's ufo activity
410
00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:19,416
in association with
these mutilation cases
411
00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:21,706
because that's been
reported all over the world.
412
00:21:21,730 --> 00:21:23,966
But some of the other
aspects of this mystery
413
00:21:23,990 --> 00:21:27,046
that we've just had unveiled to us today,
414
00:21:27,070 --> 00:21:28,676
crop circles, right out here.
415
00:21:28,700 --> 00:21:32,386
These gigantic circles that appear
out of nowhere in their pasture.
416
00:21:32,410 --> 00:21:35,886
And then for the next couple of years,
the grass, the hay that grows there
417
00:21:35,910 --> 00:21:38,646
is bigger and stronger
than anything around it.
418
00:21:38,670 --> 00:21:39,936
Where did they come from?
419
00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:43,236
Why aren't there other government
agencies here investigating this?
420
00:21:43,260 --> 00:21:45,736
Is it because they don't
believe the witnesses?
421
00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:47,470
Or they're not surprised?
422
00:21:48,470 --> 00:21:51,116
Show me where this happened?
Where the cow and the bull were found?
423
00:21:51,140 --> 00:21:52,140
All right.
424
00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:01,296
- I know the price of bulls.
- Right.
425
00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:03,546
I mean, you're talking at
least $5,000 or $10,000.
426
00:22:03,570 --> 00:22:08,546
Each one of those hits
is about a $20,000 cost.
427
00:22:08,570 --> 00:22:13,096
If somebody totals your
car, and it's worth $20,000,
428
00:22:13,120 --> 00:22:15,226
you're gonna be really furious about that.
429
00:22:15,250 --> 00:22:18,186
What if somebody
totals five of your cars?
430
00:22:18,210 --> 00:22:20,016
The most probable cause
431
00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:23,436
is Colby's got enemies, and
somebody just cost him 100 grand.
432
00:22:23,460 --> 00:22:27,066
- That's right.
- Of course, the question becomes why.
433
00:22:27,090 --> 00:22:31,026
Have you ever considered, like,
something more, like, paranormal? Or
434
00:22:31,050 --> 00:22:34,656
I'm sure people have asked you,
because people made claims it was aliens.
435
00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:37,536
- Right.
- Do you have any thoughts on that at all?
436
00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:41,206
I don't... I don't think it's aliens per se.
437
00:22:41,230 --> 00:22:44,166
I think it is a group of individuals.
438
00:22:44,190 --> 00:22:47,086
I don't have any preconceived notions.
439
00:22:47,110 --> 00:22:48,676
I know a lot of people do.
440
00:22:48,700 --> 00:22:51,966
And the more you can
provide to prove your situation,
441
00:22:51,990 --> 00:22:54,426
obviously, the more I'm
gonna get on your level,
442
00:22:54,450 --> 00:22:56,216
the more I'm going to believe you.
443
00:22:56,240 --> 00:23:01,250
Especially if we're talking about
things that might seem outlandish at first.
444
00:23:03,540 --> 00:23:07,816
When the cowboy found
the first bull, it was right here.
445
00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:11,446
God! I was not expecting
the bones to still be here.
446
00:23:11,470 --> 00:23:12,550
Yeah.
447
00:23:13,300 --> 00:23:16,560
Walking up, and I'm seeing
the bones in front of me,
448
00:23:17,060 --> 00:23:18,246
this is surreal.
449
00:23:18,270 --> 00:23:21,876
The animal was laying
there with no genitalia.
450
00:23:21,900 --> 00:23:24,286
All the reproductive
organs have been removed
451
00:23:24,310 --> 00:23:27,900
with no other harm to the animal at all.
452
00:23:28,900 --> 00:23:32,046
Not to be crass, but why
do you want bulls' balls?
453
00:23:32,070 --> 00:23:33,846
You can get 'em from a butcher for free.
454
00:23:33,870 --> 00:23:37,176
There was no blood around
the animal or on the carcass.
455
00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:40,976
And even to the point that the
carcass over the next months
456
00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:42,846
sort of melted into the ground.
457
00:23:42,870 --> 00:23:46,000
It wasn't torn apart by the
scavengers or anything.
458
00:23:48,630 --> 00:23:53,406
Just doing math in my head,
it's gonna have 50 liters of blood.
459
00:23:53,430 --> 00:23:55,616
- Correct.
- That's a hell of a lot of blood.
460
00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:57,786
That's right, and it's gonna make a mess.
461
00:23:57,810 --> 00:23:59,180
- I mean, a lot.
- Yes.
462
00:24:00,060 --> 00:24:04,076
I mean, how do you do that
without, like, spilling a single drop?
463
00:24:04,100 --> 00:24:07,706
Then that means that this bull had
to be exsanguinated beforehand.
464
00:24:07,730 --> 00:24:09,966
Before they removed its genitalia,
465
00:24:09,990 --> 00:24:12,046
they would have had to
have pulled all its blood.
466
00:24:12,070 --> 00:24:13,070
Yeah.
467
00:24:17,830 --> 00:24:21,766
Right here, you can see just
right underneath those trees,
468
00:24:21,790 --> 00:24:24,476
that is the bones of the
second mutilated bull.
469
00:24:24,500 --> 00:24:26,080
I see it from here, yeah.
470
00:24:28,170 --> 00:24:32,566
Just like the first bull that we
saw, Doug, we can walk up here.
471
00:24:32,590 --> 00:24:36,156
We can see there's still bones here.
472
00:24:36,180 --> 00:24:38,486
No scavengers, no predators
473
00:24:38,510 --> 00:24:42,866
got to this animal and tore it into
pieces and drug it all over the place.
474
00:24:42,890 --> 00:24:45,876
These bones are just clean.
475
00:24:45,900 --> 00:24:51,376
They're not all gnawed and chewed
up, and they're not all broken into pieces
476
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:53,376
by coyotes and other critters.
477
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:54,836
- By teeth.
- Right.
478
00:24:54,860 --> 00:24:56,596
This just has to be, then,
479
00:24:56,620 --> 00:25:00,346
that the scavenger
animals smelled something,
480
00:25:00,370 --> 00:25:04,266
and it's just innate in them that
they knew not to touch this meat.
481
00:25:04,290 --> 00:25:06,306
- What, there's five, right?
- That's correct.
482
00:25:06,330 --> 00:25:09,936
So, I mean, they were untouched
as well by, like, scavengers.
483
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:11,566
- That's right.
- So...
484
00:25:11,590 --> 00:25:16,616
There's no such thing as coincidence.
I mean, this didn't happen in a vacuum.
485
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,026
- There's just no way.
- Yeah. Absolutely.
486
00:25:19,050 --> 00:25:21,576
What kind of gives me
goosebumps the most
487
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:24,310
is how complex it was and
that no mistakes were made.
488
00:25:25,690 --> 00:25:29,786
I understand why people
believe that aliens are responsible.
489
00:25:29,810 --> 00:25:35,046
The one thing that I am certain of
is that there was a purpose to this.
490
00:25:35,070 --> 00:25:38,086
Someone or something
forced this to happen,
491
00:25:38,110 --> 00:25:41,120
and this is an extremely
advanced operation.
492
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,920
This is the pasture right here
that we keep these bulls in.
493
00:25:57,760 --> 00:25:59,680
We'll just stop right up here.
494
00:26:00,510 --> 00:26:02,116
So, this is the location.
495
00:26:02,140 --> 00:26:03,746
- It's right here?
- Right here.
496
00:26:03,770 --> 00:26:06,036
So, this bull is laying right here,
497
00:26:06,060 --> 00:26:09,576
with his face pointing that
way, with his front feet out.
498
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:13,416
It laid in a position I've never
seen a bull or a cow lay in.
499
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:16,586
Then there's no tracks,
and there's no blood.
500
00:26:16,610 --> 00:26:19,506
His nose is gone, his lips are gone,
501
00:26:19,530 --> 00:26:23,056
his tongue is gone, his ears are gone,
502
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:25,096
his tail is skinned.
503
00:26:25,120 --> 00:26:28,396
All precision... I call 'em laser cuts.
504
00:26:28,420 --> 00:26:29,846
They're heat cuts
505
00:26:29,870 --> 00:26:33,566
because the hair's curled
like it's singed right by the cuts.
506
00:26:33,590 --> 00:26:36,356
We're talking about a time of year
this ground is covered with snow?
507
00:26:36,380 --> 00:26:38,856
- Yeah, four inches.
- Four inches of snow.
508
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:40,406
- Yeah.
- And there are no tracks.
509
00:26:40,430 --> 00:26:42,196
There's no tracks.
510
00:26:42,220 --> 00:26:43,366
And no blood.
511
00:26:43,390 --> 00:26:44,616
Not one drop.
512
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:47,020
That animal had no blood in him.
513
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:51,036
My vet, she said probably the only way
514
00:26:51,060 --> 00:26:54,336
you could get all of the
blood out of the animal
515
00:26:54,360 --> 00:26:56,456
was to bleed it while it's alive
516
00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:59,626
so that the animal
pumps all the blood out.
517
00:26:59,650 --> 00:27:01,926
- That's a horrible way to go?
- Yeah.
518
00:27:01,950 --> 00:27:03,466
I know the rest of my bulls
519
00:27:03,490 --> 00:27:06,306
that were in this pasture
were petrified to death.
520
00:27:06,330 --> 00:27:08,636
They were scared to death,
and my bulls are never scared.
521
00:27:08,660 --> 00:27:09,597
I can pet 'em.
522
00:27:09,621 --> 00:27:12,686
If you're a cowman, that'll tell
you more than anything else.
523
00:27:12,710 --> 00:27:17,800
Something super weird happened
to scare those bulls that bad.
524
00:27:18,970 --> 00:27:22,366
A long time ago, one of the
first investigative reporters
525
00:27:22,390 --> 00:27:24,656
to look into this called it an alien harvest.
526
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:28,576
And I don't know that that's what it
is, but it sure seems like somebody
527
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:31,536
is harvesting bits and pieces from cattle.
528
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:33,980
And it's not the same
pieces that we harvest.
529
00:27:34,610 --> 00:27:37,610
This is how I found this
cow, dead with her head up.
530
00:27:38,110 --> 00:27:41,990
They were about six months
apart. December and then July.
531
00:27:42,490 --> 00:27:43,636
Gravity will tell you
532
00:27:43,660 --> 00:27:46,886
that that head's gonna go to
the ground the instant she dies.
533
00:27:46,910 --> 00:27:51,136
Well, that cow died, and
her head's still in the air.
534
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,556
- This is really weird and creepy.
- Yeah.
535
00:27:53,580 --> 00:27:56,856
Why is it not a person? Why
do you know it's not people?
536
00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,316
I've been a cowman for 70 years.
537
00:27:59,340 --> 00:28:02,550
I know what everything
looks like that can kill a cow.
538
00:28:03,050 --> 00:28:06,076
You know, and that's not
one of... That wasn't there.
539
00:28:06,100 --> 00:28:12,480
You can't pick a 2,500-pound bull
up and position him in that position
540
00:28:12,980 --> 00:28:15,376
and then do all the cuts
and take everything off
541
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:18,480
and drain him of blood
without leavin' a track.
542
00:28:19,070 --> 00:28:20,166
It just can't happen.
543
00:28:20,190 --> 00:28:21,296
In my opinion,
544
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:24,466
something picked the bull up, did
all of whatever they were doing to it,
545
00:28:24,490 --> 00:28:25,756
and then set it back down.
546
00:28:25,780 --> 00:28:29,790
If whatever came in and killed
this bull was leaving no tracks,
547
00:28:31,120 --> 00:28:34,726
what's to keep 'em from killing
ten more tomorrow, you know?
548
00:28:34,750 --> 00:28:38,066
- I mean, it'll wipe you out, you know?
- Or people.
549
00:28:38,090 --> 00:28:40,026
- Yeah.
- It's like a harvest.
550
00:28:40,050 --> 00:28:41,606
- It is.
- Like they're harvesting.
551
00:28:41,630 --> 00:28:43,986
They are harvesting.
That's what they're doing.
552
00:28:44,010 --> 00:28:47,696
They don't just come out
here and kill him and leave him.
553
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:51,060
They harvest the part that
they want off of every animal.
554
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:56,286
Dave actually has a son who
says he's had his own experience
555
00:28:56,310 --> 00:28:58,456
with things he can't explain here.
556
00:28:58,480 --> 00:28:59,916
- Hi, George.
- My wife, ginger.
557
00:28:59,940 --> 00:29:03,376
Ginger, nice to meet you.
So, this is where you saw it?
558
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,426
Yeah. We were just driving by,
and we seen a big buck, you know.
559
00:29:06,450 --> 00:29:09,136
Everybody always asks us.
They want to see these big bucks.
560
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:13,386
So I stopped and took a video of it,
right on the edge of that cut right there.
561
00:29:13,410 --> 00:29:15,846
And I didn't notice
anything on it at the time.
562
00:29:15,870 --> 00:29:17,686
And later on, I showed it to somebody.
563
00:29:17,710 --> 00:29:19,766
And they asked me, "hey,
what the heck is that?"
564
00:29:19,790 --> 00:29:21,396
There's something right behind it
565
00:29:21,420 --> 00:29:23,210
- can I just take a look at it?
- Yeah.
566
00:29:26,550 --> 00:29:28,656
- This is the buck.
- See that behind it?
567
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:31,430
- Something walking behind it.
- Yeah. But...
568
00:29:32,140 --> 00:29:33,560
This is a wild animal.
569
00:29:34,060 --> 00:29:35,850
And they're really spooky.
570
00:29:37,940 --> 00:29:40,546
You can't get that close
to it and it not know it.
571
00:29:40,570 --> 00:29:43,626
- It should have reacted.
- Absolutely. It'd bolted out of there.
572
00:29:43,650 --> 00:29:45,756
So, if it was a person,
that deer would have
573
00:29:45,780 --> 00:29:47,466
it would have known.
It would have looked.
574
00:29:47,490 --> 00:29:48,846
You know, it's focused on me.
575
00:29:48,870 --> 00:29:51,176
And if it's that close to
it, right there behind it,
576
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,136
that thing would have bugged out.
577
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,846
When you blow that up and
slow it down, it gets really weird.
578
00:29:55,870 --> 00:29:58,686
Mind if I have a copy of
that video and share it online?
579
00:29:58,710 --> 00:30:00,356
- Leave it.
- Absolutely.
580
00:30:00,380 --> 00:30:02,896
When you add it to all the
other stuff that's been going on,
581
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:03,936
it really gets weird.
582
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,736
It seems to play in with
the other odd activity.
583
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,050
After this bull and the cow happened,
584
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:12,326
my daughter was out on the
porch in the summertime at night,
585
00:30:12,350 --> 00:30:15,246
and, one of the triangular,
586
00:30:15,270 --> 00:30:18,366
three-lighted whatever they are flies over.
587
00:30:18,390 --> 00:30:22,046
She yells at me. I run in, grab
my binocs. I'm looking at this thing.
588
00:30:22,070 --> 00:30:27,126
And it's low and slow, and it
is quiet as a church mouse.
589
00:30:27,150 --> 00:30:28,296
- Floats over?
- Yep.
590
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:30,546
- Could you see any insignia or anything?
- I couldn't.
591
00:30:30,570 --> 00:30:35,176
It just looked like a bunch of mechanical,
you know, tubing, wire, all that stuff
592
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,806
under this thing, and three
big lights in the corner of it.
593
00:30:37,830 --> 00:30:40,766
Like I said, we try not
to think about it a lot
594
00:30:40,790 --> 00:30:42,766
because you can't explain it,
595
00:30:42,790 --> 00:30:45,526
so let's not lose any
sleep worrying about it.
596
00:30:45,550 --> 00:30:47,736
We don't get stressed about it. We just...
597
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:49,696
- Not much you can do.
- It is what it is.
598
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:51,446
Law enforcement doesn't know.
599
00:30:51,470 --> 00:30:53,116
You hope it goes somewhere else.
600
00:30:53,140 --> 00:30:54,156
Absolutely.
601
00:30:54,180 --> 00:30:57,206
What looks like a
humanoid walking on a hill,
602
00:30:57,230 --> 00:31:00,246
two major ufo sightings
among the family members,
603
00:31:00,270 --> 00:31:04,586
two classic mutilation cases,
and crop circles all in one place
604
00:31:04,610 --> 00:31:08,030
suggest there is a connection
between all these strange phenomena.
605
00:31:08,570 --> 00:31:10,546
Now we need to take
everything we've gathered
606
00:31:10,570 --> 00:31:12,506
and bring it to a colleague of mine
607
00:31:12,530 --> 00:31:17,120
who is uniquely qualified to help us
connect the dots of why this is happening.
608
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:25,356
I don't think there's a person who's
done more hands-on investigations
609
00:31:25,380 --> 00:31:28,066
of animal mutilation
cases than colm kelleher.
610
00:31:28,090 --> 00:31:30,986
Colm has a phd. He's a biochemist.
611
00:31:31,010 --> 00:31:35,116
He's been at the scene of dozens
of mutilation cases all over the world.
612
00:31:35,140 --> 00:31:37,286
He's sampled those.
He's sent them to labs.
613
00:31:37,310 --> 00:31:40,076
He's had it analyzed. He's
worked with veterinarians.
614
00:31:40,100 --> 00:31:42,730
He's developed some
theories about what's going on.
615
00:31:43,860 --> 00:31:47,456
So, we spent a couple of days
talking to ranchers and lawmen up there.
616
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:51,836
They've had a dozen cases in this
area. At least a dozen, maybe more.
617
00:31:51,860 --> 00:31:54,296
But the ranchers, you know,
they don't always report 'em.
618
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:59,136
Our two ranchers have different opinions
as far as who's responsible for this.
619
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:03,476
The gentleman I spoke to in burns
thinks this was done by humans.
620
00:32:03,500 --> 00:32:05,290
This guy thinks it's aliens.
621
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:07,526
They think the answer is there,
622
00:32:07,550 --> 00:32:11,066
that somebody from up
there is visiting and harvesting.
623
00:32:11,090 --> 00:32:12,776
For what purpose? I don't know.
624
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:16,406
It did remind me of a
field sampling operation.
625
00:32:16,430 --> 00:32:18,826
You know, I don't want to
go much further than that
626
00:32:18,850 --> 00:32:24,786
because, I mean, it's really a
hypothesis based on repeated patterns
627
00:32:24,810 --> 00:32:28,690
of the same tissues being
removed from these animals.
628
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:32,926
What we found really interesting is
that no predators went after these.
629
00:32:32,950 --> 00:32:36,466
And, as he said, they eventually
just melted into the earth.
630
00:32:36,490 --> 00:32:39,516
- Would you say that's typical?
- Yes, it is typical.
631
00:32:39,540 --> 00:32:43,056
The early days of nids, the national
institute for discovery science,
632
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:46,186
we set up a surveillance
camera on the animal
633
00:32:46,210 --> 00:32:48,646
to see if any predators showed up.
634
00:32:48,670 --> 00:32:52,486
And for two nights in a row,
nothing came near the cow,
635
00:32:52,510 --> 00:32:56,066
and this was... this was a
place that was full of coyotes.
636
00:32:56,090 --> 00:32:59,696
That surveillance camera did not
lie. There was not a single animal.
637
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,456
Why is it so difficult,
getting to the bottom of this?
638
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:06,376
I think the cattle mutilation phenomenon
639
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,650
is, by its nature, deceptive.
640
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:13,546
Whatever is doing this
are incredibly skilled.
641
00:33:13,570 --> 00:33:15,296
They're surgically adept.
642
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:19,386
They have, equipment
that is very sophisticated.
643
00:33:19,410 --> 00:33:20,966
I mean, this was a...
644
00:33:20,990 --> 00:33:26,056
A ritualistic display of
raw power and finesse.
645
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:31,726
I mean, it basically is a form
of psychological intimidation.
646
00:33:31,750 --> 00:33:35,420
The evidence suggests that
they're always one step ahead.
647
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:40,076
Here's one of the thoughts that
rattles around in my head at night.
648
00:33:40,100 --> 00:33:43,116
If they can do this to livestock,
what does it mean for us?
649
00:33:43,140 --> 00:33:48,666
So, the cattle mutilation phenomena,
it's not an encouraging sort of a sign.
650
00:33:48,690 --> 00:33:51,416
How often do they express
hostility toward humans?
651
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:55,376
There are medical, injury
cases that we've studied.
652
00:33:55,400 --> 00:34:00,046
But you could never really define
the agenda of the ufo phenomenon.
653
00:34:00,070 --> 00:34:03,176
You know, were these people just
in the wrong place at the wrong time?
654
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:06,686
And they got injured as
a result of being too close
655
00:34:06,710 --> 00:34:09,266
to a "propulsion system,"
656
00:34:09,290 --> 00:34:13,816
to a directed energy weapon,
or whatever caused the injury.
657
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:17,090
The colares, Brazil,
case was very different.
658
00:34:19,090 --> 00:34:22,156
Colares island in northeastern Brazil
659
00:34:22,180 --> 00:34:26,456
was besieged for somewhere
between six months and 12 months
660
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:30,996
by dozens and dozens
of different-sized objects,
661
00:34:31,020 --> 00:34:33,480
and they were hunting people.
662
00:34:34,860 --> 00:34:36,240
You guys studied that.
663
00:34:36,740 --> 00:34:41,346
Yeah. There was an
obvious intent to injure people,
664
00:34:41,370 --> 00:34:44,160
and, you know, in some
cases, people got killed.
665
00:34:45,540 --> 00:34:49,146
I first heard about the colares
case when I started down this path,
666
00:34:49,170 --> 00:34:51,646
back in the late '80s and early '90s.
667
00:34:51,670 --> 00:34:53,566
Even back then, it seemed weird.
668
00:34:53,590 --> 00:34:55,736
It doesn't seem to really fit the pattern
669
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,236
of what I had known
about ufos by that point.
670
00:34:58,260 --> 00:35:01,696
I was reading everything I could
find, but this one just didn't fit
671
00:35:01,720 --> 00:35:03,100
what you see everywhere else.
672
00:35:10,230 --> 00:35:13,086
In the beginning, I wasn't
necessarily intimidated
673
00:35:13,110 --> 00:35:14,706
by the idea of alien visitors.
674
00:35:14,730 --> 00:35:16,166
I thought if we could confirm it,
675
00:35:16,190 --> 00:35:18,240
that'd be the biggest
thing in human history.
676
00:35:19,700 --> 00:35:24,280
As I've gone on, I've learned about
some darker aspects of the phenomena.
677
00:35:24,870 --> 00:35:26,056
And colm is right.
678
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:31,056
The colares, Brazil, incident might
be the most extraordinary of them all.
679
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:35,856
In late 1977, hundreds of
people along the tocantins river
680
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:39,396
were attacked and injured by
these things that came out of the sky.
681
00:35:39,420 --> 00:35:42,236
Some reportedly died
from their encounters.
682
00:35:42,260 --> 00:35:45,276
Images of the injured people
went out all over the world.
683
00:35:45,300 --> 00:35:50,366
It has become one of the best documented
but least understood ufo incidents
684
00:35:50,390 --> 00:35:51,560
in all of history.
685
00:35:54,310 --> 00:35:57,780
There's been a lot of secrecy in
that country, as there has been here.
686
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:01,126
- Thiago, how you doing?
- I'm fine, George. Thank you. How are you?
687
00:36:01,150 --> 00:36:04,006
I appreciate you carving
out some time for me.
688
00:36:04,030 --> 00:36:06,676
So, all the inquiries I
have made about colares,
689
00:36:06,700 --> 00:36:10,306
the story is, the witnesses won't talk,
690
00:36:10,330 --> 00:36:11,976
the people who were injured won't talk.
691
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:13,436
Are all those still true?
692
00:36:13,460 --> 00:36:17,606
In the past, they were afraid if
they talk, something could happen.
693
00:36:17,630 --> 00:36:19,936
But the stigma is changing a lot,
694
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:24,406
and much, much of this is because
of what happened in the United States.
695
00:36:24,430 --> 00:36:28,486
The... the... the public and society,
you know, pressing the government
696
00:36:28,510 --> 00:36:31,076
to disclose all the things about the ufos.
697
00:36:31,100 --> 00:36:36,440
If you go there, you can find people
that have been attacked by these lights.
698
00:36:37,570 --> 00:36:39,940
This phenomena, it still happens today.
699
00:36:41,650 --> 00:36:43,126
You're saying it's ongoing now?
700
00:36:43,150 --> 00:36:45,466
They're seeing the same thing happen,
701
00:36:45,490 --> 00:36:49,410
and they're scared if what
happened there in the past
702
00:36:49,910 --> 00:36:51,950
can happen now, in the present.
703
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:58,170
If this is going on even now, I've
got to get there and investigate it.
704
00:36:59,170 --> 00:37:02,606
There's a recent contact of
mine who has relevant expertise,
705
00:37:02,630 --> 00:37:04,776
and I've asked her to
come over and talk about it
706
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:06,986
and maybe join our investigation.
707
00:37:07,010 --> 00:37:10,536
My name is vernice "fly girl"
arm our. All my friends call me vee.
708
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:13,246
And after two tours in Iraq,
709
00:37:13,270 --> 00:37:16,456
I became america's first
black female combat pilot.
710
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:18,336
I'm not the smartest guy in the room.
711
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:22,546
Among the many gaps in my
expertise, aviation and aeronautics.
712
00:37:22,570 --> 00:37:26,780
I don't know any of that stuff.
She's a former marine helicopter pilot.
713
00:37:27,820 --> 00:37:29,256
She knows how they operate
714
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:32,556
and what other kinds of craft there
are, what landing lights look like.
715
00:37:32,580 --> 00:37:34,136
- Hey, vee. Welcome.
- George.
716
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:38,306
She worked as a police officer, so
she knows how to do investigations.
717
00:37:38,330 --> 00:37:40,146
She is a bit of a badass.
718
00:37:40,170 --> 00:37:42,816
You know, we've been chasing
this cattle mutilation stuff.
719
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:44,236
- It's pretty creepy.
- It is.
720
00:37:44,260 --> 00:37:46,066
For the most part, they
don't attack humans.
721
00:37:46,090 --> 00:37:49,486
We're gonna look at a case where
they did. This is operation prato.
722
00:37:49,510 --> 00:37:51,906
This is, an investigation in Brazil.
723
00:37:51,930 --> 00:37:55,350
Dozens of people were burned
with something like lasers.
724
00:37:56,060 --> 00:38:00,336
"Abruptly making 90-degree turns,
changing speed above 35,000 feet."
725
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:01,796
We don't have any technology.
726
00:38:01,820 --> 00:38:02,916
Yeah, we don't have it now.
727
00:38:02,940 --> 00:38:05,376
We sure didn't have it back
then, so it's something else.
728
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:09,716
As a military pilot, we're
trained for all types of situations.
729
00:38:09,740 --> 00:38:11,830
Traditional, nontraditional.
730
00:38:12,740 --> 00:38:14,676
How do we train for something
731
00:38:14,700 --> 00:38:18,306
that far exceeds our tactical capabilities?
732
00:38:18,330 --> 00:38:23,606
Like, it's literally defying the laws of
physics and aerodynamics as we know it.
733
00:38:23,630 --> 00:38:27,106
You know, if we're ever
gonna figure out the intentions,
734
00:38:27,130 --> 00:38:29,776
what do they want,
what's their interest in us,
735
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:31,946
you have to look at the dark side as well.
736
00:38:31,970 --> 00:38:33,036
This is dark.
737
00:38:33,060 --> 00:38:35,680
So, we can go down to
Brazil, see what we can find out.
738
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:37,537
Let's go.
739
00:38:37,561 --> 00:38:39,456
Did they seem to intend harm?
740
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:42,336
What were the capabilities of
these things that were in the sky?
741
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:46,836
What did the Brazilian air force learn?
Did they get solid physical evidence?
742
00:38:46,860 --> 00:38:50,086
If these are aliens, and
they're back, why there?
743
00:38:50,110 --> 00:38:51,296
Why these people?
744
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:52,700
I'm gonna find out.
65070
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