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I was home in bed,
and I received a call at
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approximately 1:00 to 1:30
in the morning.
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A neighbor saw a fight
going on out in front of
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the residence on Elm Street.
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There was a man on the sidewalk
in front of the residence,
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and he was motionless.
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I'm just trying to get there as
fast as I can.
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So when I arrived
at the scene,
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there was a body lying on
the sidewalk, and there was
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a mask between his legs.
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The deputies were on the scene,
and they were very,
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very spooked.
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They described going into
the house and locating one body
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and locating another body,
and described it almost like
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a Freddy Krueger coming out
of a closet.
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These were big,
muscular type of deputies.
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They didn't scare easy.
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And when I went in,
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and I see exactly what
they were talking about.
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I've never seen anything like
that in my life.
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That night, I believe
it was a Sunday night,
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between one and two o'clock
in the morning,
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I was notified by dispatch
of a homicide.
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I got out of bed and jumped in
the shower real quickly.
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And by the time I left
the door, I had been called
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four different times adding
another body to
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the crime scene...
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...then I drove to the address
on Elm Street in Salida.
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Most homicide scenes,
there's always going to
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be evidence.
You just have to find it.
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And the first 48 hours are
the most important
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to get that case solved.
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Deputies were telling me that
they had located four bodies
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at the scene.
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At first, I didn't believe 'em,
because I've never been
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involved in a quadruple
homicide, and I don't recall
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a quadruple homicide ever
occurring in Stanislaus County.
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So there was no lights
in the house.
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It was really very horrific,
a lot of blood.
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Obviously the person lying on
the sidewalk was deceased.
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He was a white male adult.
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There was three bodies inside
of the residence.
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Two of them were
in the kitchen,
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and one was in the living room.
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All of the victims were
bludgeoned with some type of
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blunt instrument,
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in addition to
a signature stab wound,
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and slices to the throat area.
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It was a bloody scene,
but as an investigator,
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you don't care about how ugly
it is, how much blood is there.
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These are their bodies.
They're part of this puzzle.
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We identified three of
the victims with ID that
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they had on the persons.
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One had been a Franklin Raper,
who was 51 years old.
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Richard Ritchey,
he was 25 years old.
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And Dennis Colwell,
who was 35 years old.
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The one that we did not
identify right away
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was a female.
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Young female,
about 22 years of age.
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Her injury to her neck was
so horrific that she was
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almost decapitated.
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Myself and the other
investigators were all
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wondering how these people
all related.
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We had no idea who knew each
other because of
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the different ages.
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Immediately, it didn't look
like home invasion or robbery
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because these people are
brutally murdered.
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The people that did this wanted
to kill people.
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Their objective was to kill
these people.
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As far as who is capable of
committing a quadruple
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homicide, just almost unheard
of, especially in Salida.
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So at that point, we had no
idea who the perpetrators were.
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I observed a camouflage mask in
between the legs of the man
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who was lying deceased
on the driveway.
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And there was another
camouflage mask lying on
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the grass at the residence.
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There was a knit cap that was
on the lawn.
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And when they looked at it,
there was hair on it.
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DNA wasn't around much
at that time.
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It was just in the beginning
stages of it.
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But you can still match that
hair, blood type,
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and stuff like that.
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So that was a good piece
of evidence.
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I observed footprints leading
from some dirt area near
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the gutter of the house.
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And that was going eastbound
toward the railroad tracks.
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Following the footprints,
there was a bat,
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a Ka-Bar knife, a knife sheath
that they discarded.
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That tells me that there's more
than one person that did this.
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So there was a trail,
if you will, of evidence to
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where they went to a vehicle
and then left the scene.
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A lot of
the locals heard about it.
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The large crowd were outside
the crime scene, actually to
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the perimeter of
the crime scene.
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Salida wasn't
a very large town in those days.
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It was a small farming
community,
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just north of Modesto.
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I was a reporter at the Modesto
Bee, and I covered crime.
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And, soon as we heard about
it, everybody went out
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and started covering it.
It just rocked the town.
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The deputies know what to do.
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They're basically freezing
the crime scene, make sure
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nobody comes in and out.
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They're taping off the area
and talking to people.
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The lady came up,
she was visibly shaken
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and said, "Hey, I'm
the sole survivor.
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I was there when
it happened."
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The killers didn't know
they had missed somebody
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and they had missed her.
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So we had a witness,
a survivor, if you will,
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right at it.
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Pure evil came to the house on
Elm Street that night.
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And I don't think detectives
expected to find what they did.
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By the next morning,
everybody in Salida knew about
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the massacre on Elm Street.
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It was just a horrible crime.
It was a bloodbath.
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There was a lot of fear.
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They were afraid
at that point that, hey,
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what's going on here?
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Somebody going to bust into my
home and kill all my family?
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They had no idea yet who
the killers were,
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so it was tense.
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Luckily, there was
one survivor.
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Her name was Donna Alvarez,
and I interviewed her for
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approximately an hour.
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Donna Alvarez told me that that
was her first night
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being at that residence.
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She had never been
there before.
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She said she was
somewhat homeless.
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She had no place to go,
and she arrived at
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the residence with one of
the victims, Richard Ritchey,
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and Franklin Raper,
who was living in
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the residence, told her she can
spend the night there.
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She was in one of the bedrooms.
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And all of a sudden,
she heard screaming.
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She wasn't sure what was going
on, other than it was dark.
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And she knew something bad
was happening.
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She looked out the door
and saw everybody had
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a camouflage mask on.
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One of the individuals removed
his mask briefly.
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And she said it was obviously
a Caucasian,
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but he had Afro type of hair.
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And he had a gun, and told
her to get into
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the living room.
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And then somehow
he was distracted.
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She felt that she got to get
out of there, so she went.
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The only place she could go was
to the garage.
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She then hid under a pile of
laundry that was on the floor
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of the garage.
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After hearing all
the commotion, she said it got
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quiet, and she found out that
everybody was murdered
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except for herself.
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Apparently, during the murder
frenzy, they forgot about her,
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and she was able to slip out
of the garage.
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I think the garage door was
broken, and she was able to get
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under it and run to
a neighbor's house,
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and called 911.
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I was walking outside the crime
scene, made contact with a lady
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who stated that her daughter
has been unaccounted for,
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and she hopes that the victim
was not her daughter.
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And she said, "I heard my
daughter might be one
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of the victims."
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And they said, "Well,
can you identify
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anything about her?"
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And they said, "Well, she's real
small and got dark hair,
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has a little tattoo on her."
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She had brought a photograph to
us of her daughter.
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And based on that photograph,
we were able to identify
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the young female victim as
being the lady's daughter,
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Darlene Parris.
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These people all had families.
A couple of them were married.
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And it was just real sad
for the families
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that their loved ones were
butchered like that.
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That night, I just had a weird
feeling, like I was uneasy.
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I just, I don't know.
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I remember hearing the phone,
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probably two, three o'clock in
the morning, and it was
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my brother saying
"Dad's gone."
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And I just, you know, I think
I fainted, I don't know,
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I just went down hard and it
just was this devastation.
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I woke up from a dead sleep at
that time and I heard my mom
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sobbing, and she was on
the phone
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crying uncontrollably.
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We turned on the TV
and there it was,
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bodies coming out of the house.
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It was right there, it was kind
of stunning.
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You know you're never going to
see your grandpa again.
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I knew him as Papa Red,
Franklin, Franklin Raper,
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Papa Red.
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He liked us to call him
Papa Red.
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My dad was very giving
and loved his family and his
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family also included what
he would call his people,
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which were not
necessarily blood-related.
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But if they needed him to take
care of them, he would step in
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and try to protect them as best
as he could.
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He would want to bring people
into the home, you know,
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that didn't have a place to go.
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But my mom just couldn't handle
that because she had
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three kids.
They did split up,
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That was-- it was tough for him
to deal with.
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I remember at that time, it was
kind of like, "What are
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you going to do, Papa?
Like, where are you staying at?
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And he said, "Well, I'm staying
close in Salida."
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But he was having issues with
some people.
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I knew he was having
some issues.
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'Cause I-- I heard my mom maybe
a couple of weeks before that
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saying, "Dad, can you please
come up here and just move up
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here with us and get out of
the area for a while?"
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Detectives got a lead that
Franklin had been in a fight
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with a gentleman that owned
a repair shop there in Salida.
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They had some bad blood
between them.
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There was several altercations
over a year's time.
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And they actually got in
a fist fight.
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And Franklin came back to
the shop
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after they had
had some words.
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And he was in a car with
another guy.
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And they started spinning
donuts outside the shop.
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And um, unfortunately,
Franklin's vehicle died.
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And so the owner of the repair
shop confronted Franklin.
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They beat Franklin up
pretty good.
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Basically, Franklin
lost the fight.
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So I tracked him down
by this auto parts place.
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He was not feeling too great.
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And I asked him, "Dad,
what's going on?"
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And he said, "These guys are
a bunch of punks."
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I didn't know who they were
or had never met them
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or anything, but I was quite
worried about him.
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Detectives zeroed in on
the shop owner, tracking down
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all the problems
he'd had with Franklin.
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They thought this could
be the motive.
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If the individual who owned
the automotive store is one of
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the persons that actually
committed the murders,
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then he was dangerous.
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They didn't know what
they were going to find.
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But if they were the killer,
they were pure evil.
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Detectives started running down
leads and chasing suspects,
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and they found out one of
the victims, Franklin Raper,
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had had a beef with a guy that
owned an auto body shop
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there in Salida.
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So we went to the auto body
repair shop and met with
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the owner and asked him if
he heard about
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the quadruple homicide
in Salida.
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And he tells me that everybody
in Salida knows about it.
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He was asked if
he had anything to do with it.
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And he admitted that he did not
get along with Franklin,
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that him and Franklin did not
like each other, but no way that
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he would kill Franklin Raper
or anybody else.
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He had an alibi.
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He was home with his wife
and family and in bed at
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the time of the murders.
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His family was interviewed,
and they checked out his alibi.
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We determined that there was
no indication that he would
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kill Franklin Raper.
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So they let him go.
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At this point,
the town was on edge.
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They couldn't believe it.
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Salida's a nice
little town.
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And here's this horrendous
murder of four people.
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Everybody was afraid.
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I was in the fifth grade with
Darlene's half sister,
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younger half sister.
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We realized that we were both
part of this crime.
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My grandfather was a victim.
Her older sister was a victim.
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For her being a sister
and being so close like
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they were, it was definitely
something I noticed impact
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her big time, from a change
from when I knew her before.
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We were going through different
therapy sessions
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and school counseling
and connecting on our own.
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It was devastating for
that family.
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It really was.
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It was devastating
for everybody.
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These guys are, nobody's gonna
be able to catch them.
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Are they gonna find out
who did it?
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So it was a lot of fear at that
time, a lot of fear.
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Nobody knew who
the killers were.
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They didn't know if they were
going to be next.
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It was a rough time.
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Detectives started
looking elsewhere.
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They went to Franklin's family.
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I interviewed Franklin Raper's
son, and he told me that
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Franklin Raper asked his son if
he could borrow a gun.
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And his son said, "Why?
Why do you need a gun, Dad?"
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And Franklin says, "Well,
I'm afraid of this guy,
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Jason LaMarsh."
And Franklin was no sissy.
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So to be afraid of some guy,
his son thought, this guy must
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be a bad hombre.
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And it turned out he was.
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Jason LaMarsh was a bully.
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My grandpa would talk
about him.
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And I know there was some
bad blood there.
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Jason LaMarsh had stolen
Franklin's car, put it out in
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the street, set it on fire.
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But then Franklin knew,
hey, this is serious.
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I need to protect myself.
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Jason LaMarsh,
he threatened to kill me.
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I knew that his car had been
burned up, and they pulled him
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out of the car
and broke his collarbone.
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So I went to see him.
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I actually had tried to get
my dad to move.
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I cried and pretty much begged.
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I said, "You need to get out of
this area, Dad.
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"It's really getting,
this is too much.
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You can stay with us."
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He said, "No, I've been in
this town a lot longer than
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they have, and they're not
going to run me out."
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He said, "I'm good with
the man upstairs."
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And he looked me right in
the eye and said, "Don't worry,
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I'll be OK."
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And that was the last time
I saw him, so.
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But I always felt that
I at least tried.
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I tried to give him that
option, you know,
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to get out of there.
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So we really wanted to locate
Jason LaMarsh and find out
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exactly what was going on
and interview him.
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So I immediately called
the Sheriff's Office and ran
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a background check.
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And we discovered that he had
been arrested before,
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which indicates that we have
a photograph of him.
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And I showed Dawn Alvarez,
who was in the house that
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night, the photo lineup
and asked her if she could
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identify the person she saw at
the crime scene.
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She immediately pointed to
Jason LaMarsh.
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She became hysterical,
just as if
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Jason LaMarsh was there
in person.
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Well, in trying to track
LaMarsh down,
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detectives contacted LaMarsh's
girlfriend, Michelle Evans.
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And his girlfriend
didn't know where he was.
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Or she said she didn't.
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And they learned that
her sister, Tanya Miller,
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had also been living
in that house where
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the murders occurred.
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But she was staying with
her mother that night.
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We thought that we had to find
her and interview her to find
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out if there was any connection
between her
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and the murders itself.
Tanya Miller was stricken.
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She had no idea why
somebody would come in
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and commit these murders.
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At that point,
we confirmed that
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she was not there,
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and no indication that
she participated in the murders
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or had any knowledge
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of what had occurred.
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They ask her, "Do you know
Jason LaMarsh?"
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She said,
"Yes, my sister dates him."
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She did not like him.
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She did not like her sister
hanging out with Jason LaMarsh
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because he brought her into
a group of people that
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she did not like.
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And these people, they had been
known to cause trouble.
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The group was living at
a little ramshackle ex-labor
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camp that had been abandoned
there in Salida.
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It was called "The Camp."
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She stated that Franklin Raper
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actually lived at The Camp
for a while.
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And then when he left The Camp,
she allowed him to stay at
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the residence on Elm Street to
get away from the people
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who lived at The Camp.
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So the detectives decided,
we're going to see for
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ourselves what's going on.
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And so we went out talking to
people, gathering information.
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The community felt like
they didn't want anything to do
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with those people.
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They could see armed guards
walking around the perimeter
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of the place.
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They had heard rumors
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that there was satanic rituals
being held there.
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Community didn't really know
what these people were
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all about, they were just
afraid of them.
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Well, after we had developed
this information, we're going
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to go there and, you know,
talk to them and see where
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they were last night.
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We arrived, I think it was
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about five o'clock
in the morning.
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The camp itself
was probably an estimated maybe
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a half acre big, and the back of
the residence was what looked
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like a two-bedroom wooden
construction home.
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When they got there,
no one was there.
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There was a clothesline in
front of the house.
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And I go,
camouflage clothing?
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That's what the killers
were wearing.
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We were kind of real concerned
about our safety.
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We had to be aware of
the danger that's out there.
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They were vicious people.
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Whatever triggers them,
they can strike,
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and they strike at any time.
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If that was the group that
actually committed the murders,
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they probably would have
no problems killing us.
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You've got a bunch of people
living here in the camp,
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and Jason LaMarsh is one of
them, and he's a prime suspect.
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So the detectives didn't know
what they were going to find.
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And then a man came up
and started talking
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to detectives.
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He said he was named
Gerald Cruz.
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We learned that Gerald Cruz was
the leader of The Cause.
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He was a big man.
He was 300 and... plus.
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We started talking to Mr. Cruz.
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And I asked him if
he had heard about
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the quadruple homicide
in Salida.
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00:26:20,701 --> 00:26:24,171
And he said, no,
he hadn't heard about it.
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"I don't know anything.
What are you talking about?
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00:26:26,207 --> 00:26:27,341
I don't know what
you're talking about."
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You know.
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Which I thought was very
strange, because everybody in
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Salida had heard about it.
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As an investigator,
you can tell when people are
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00:26:38,419 --> 00:26:41,989
lying to you.
Something's not right here.
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What immediately struck me was
his shoes had a couple of very,
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very small specks on them that,
in my mind, could be blood.
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00:26:53,634 --> 00:26:57,371
I told myself that I believe
this guy could very well be
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one of the suspects
in the homicide.
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00:27:00,941 --> 00:27:03,644
I asked him if Jason LaMarsh
lived on the property,
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and he pointed to a trailer
that Jason was staying in.
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But he said he was not home,
and he stated no, he does not
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know where he's at.
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Now, walking back,
I know what I was thinking.
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And I knew that, all right,
there's something here.
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I'm gonna start putting
a search warrant together.
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And at the same time,
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we're gonna watch
this place.
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We found weapons that were
illegal, bomb-making materials,
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explosive materials that
were illegal.
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00:27:52,693 --> 00:27:56,163
Now they're really concerned.
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We're not sure what the intent
was, other than somewhere down
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the line, maybe they were going
to do something else.
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We also found books on
Satanism and astrology,
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00:28:07,508 --> 00:28:10,077
and different type of
materials such as that.
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00:28:14,849 --> 00:28:18,252
People that actually were in
The Cause actually were forced
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to get their finger cut and put
their fingerprint in this book
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that Gerald kept.
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They were forced to write
a diary, and he would read
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the diaries, because in
his mind, he thought, well,
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if I know what
they're thinking of then,
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I can control them better.
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And then detectives found
things that were beyond
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00:28:38,372 --> 00:28:39,707
their wildest nightmare.
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There was a wheel,
a punishment wheel,
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00:28:43,811 --> 00:28:44,812
that we found.
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It was called the
"Wheel of Punishment."
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00:28:48,749 --> 00:28:54,355
And when Cruz thought somebody
had done wrong or had screwed
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00:28:54,455 --> 00:28:58,325
up, he would throw it in
the air and have them catch it.
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Wherever their thumb landed,
that was a punishment they got.
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00:29:04,098 --> 00:29:06,867
He would discipline them by
doing things like withholding
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00:29:06,967 --> 00:29:11,172
food, withholding clothing,
making them sleep on
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the concrete without any type
of blanket or anything.
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00:29:14,775 --> 00:29:18,512
He would use forced sodomy,
he would use oral copulation.
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00:29:18,612 --> 00:29:21,549
It could be all kinds of
bizarre happenings,
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00:29:21,649 --> 00:29:23,384
whatever Gerald came up with.
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00:29:23,484 --> 00:29:27,555
It would dehumanize the people
that were under him,
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00:29:29,523 --> 00:29:33,894
and they would look to him
for everything,
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00:29:33,994 --> 00:29:36,864
for their basic needs.
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00:29:36,964 --> 00:29:42,737
Gerald Cruz would exhibit a lot
of the traditional types of
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manifestations that cult
leaders exhibit.
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00:29:45,439 --> 00:29:48,209
Mind control,
physical torture,
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financial control, sexuality.
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00:29:51,245 --> 00:29:57,318
His group dynamics were based
upon his ability to control
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everybody around him.
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00:30:00,221 --> 00:30:02,523
They were under the influence,
the mental influence,
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00:30:02,623 --> 00:30:03,491
of Gerald Cruz.
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00:30:03,591 --> 00:30:04,692
That was scary.
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00:30:08,662 --> 00:30:12,633
So after the search warrant was
conducted, we found receipts
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00:30:12,733 --> 00:30:16,203
where they had purchased
a Ka-Bar knife and where
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00:30:16,303 --> 00:30:19,473
they had purchased
camouflage masks.
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00:30:19,573 --> 00:30:23,778
Everything was falling into
line as to leading to
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00:30:23,878 --> 00:30:26,514
the suspects at The Camp being
the perpetrators
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00:30:26,614 --> 00:30:27,615
of the homicide.
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00:30:28,816 --> 00:30:30,551
But we don't have
the suspects in custody.
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00:30:31,652 --> 00:30:35,856
Now they just needed to find
out who was involved out of
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the group there and what
their participation was.
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00:30:57,578 --> 00:30:58,846
Now we're on day...
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...I believe, day two,
or two and a half.
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00:31:03,651 --> 00:31:06,253
And none of us
have been to bed yet.
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00:31:06,353 --> 00:31:11,125
So I told Sergeant Larson that
I was going to get a few hours
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00:31:11,225 --> 00:31:14,995
sleep, because if we did catch
these suspects, one of us had
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00:31:15,096 --> 00:31:17,198
to be somewhat coherent in
order to interview them.
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00:31:19,467 --> 00:31:22,570
When I got up, I had learned
that Michelle Evans
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00:31:22,670 --> 00:31:24,438
was booked for murder.
477
00:31:24,538 --> 00:31:28,843
Michelle Evans was
Jason LaMarsh's girlfriend,
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00:31:30,311 --> 00:31:34,215
and her sister, Tanya Miller,
had also been living there in
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that house on Elm Street, so
there was that connection.
480
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:44,025
Michelle Evans was very nervous,
she was avoiding questions.
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00:31:44,125 --> 00:31:46,327
She did not provide any
information as to
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her involvement
or anybody else at that time.
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00:31:51,265 --> 00:31:55,636
We found out at that time,
she was a good friend of
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David Beck, and Beck was
also at the camp.
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00:32:00,341 --> 00:32:03,544
Jason LaMarsh, Beck,
and Cruz were the main
486
00:32:03,644 --> 00:32:05,246
characters at The Camp.
487
00:32:05,346 --> 00:32:10,317
So we arrested Beck
and brought him in.
488
00:32:10,418 --> 00:32:13,821
Mr. Beck, Dave Beck,
he wouldn't tell us anything.
489
00:32:13,921 --> 00:32:17,792
Of course, denied it,
and so did Michelle Evans.
490
00:32:17,892 --> 00:32:22,596
And so we put them in
the same interview room.
491
00:32:23,898 --> 00:32:27,134
And that led to
a big break in the case.
492
00:32:29,270 --> 00:32:32,306
So this was a real rock
they flipped over out there,
493
00:32:32,406 --> 00:32:33,908
and all the snakes came out.
494
00:32:39,580 --> 00:32:42,750
Detectives needed to find out
who was involved in the murders
495
00:32:42,850 --> 00:32:46,954
of Franklin Raper,
Darlene Paris, Rich Ritchey,
496
00:32:47,054 --> 00:32:50,124
and Dennis Colwell,
the massacre on Elm Street.
497
00:32:51,525 --> 00:32:54,095
They're starting to gather
people up, you know,
498
00:32:54,195 --> 00:32:56,764
and bring them in
for questioning.
499
00:32:56,864 --> 00:33:00,901
We arrested David Beck
and brought him in and also
500
00:33:01,001 --> 00:33:02,002
Michelle Evans.
501
00:33:03,137 --> 00:33:06,874
And we put them in
the same interview room.
502
00:33:06,974 --> 00:33:12,613
That's an age-old tactic used
by investigators.
503
00:33:12,713 --> 00:33:16,717
And she went in there
and started talking in a low
504
00:33:16,817 --> 00:33:21,589
voice and telling him that
she did not tell us that--
505
00:33:21,689 --> 00:33:24,258
anything about him
being involved.
506
00:33:24,358 --> 00:33:27,762
And Mr. Beck was doing
everything
507
00:33:27,862 --> 00:33:30,431
with his hand motions
without saying anything,
508
00:33:30,531 --> 00:33:34,101
for her to shut up.
But she kept talking.
509
00:33:35,903 --> 00:33:39,707
And after that conversation,
I immediately conducted my own
510
00:33:39,807 --> 00:33:43,244
interview with Michelle to see
what, if any, information that
511
00:33:43,344 --> 00:33:44,412
I could obtain.
512
00:33:44,512 --> 00:33:47,648
After back and forth for
approximately one hour,
513
00:33:47,748 --> 00:33:52,319
Michelle finally cracked
and agreed to tell me exactly
514
00:33:52,420 --> 00:33:53,421
what happened.
515
00:33:55,289 --> 00:33:58,793
Michelle Evans told me
the night before they committed
516
00:33:58,893 --> 00:34:03,931
the murders, they had a bonfire
at the camp, and they all were
517
00:34:04,031 --> 00:34:08,069
basically psyching themselves
out, going over to kill
518
00:34:08,169 --> 00:34:09,136
Franklin Raper.
519
00:34:10,471 --> 00:34:12,440
He was the target at that time.
520
00:34:13,708 --> 00:34:15,943
Besides Franklin Raper,
everybody else
521
00:34:16,043 --> 00:34:17,645
was at the wrong place at
the wrong time.
522
00:34:17,745 --> 00:34:20,781
The suspects had no idea
who was going to be there,
523
00:34:20,881 --> 00:34:25,386
but they were instructed by
Gerald Cruz not to leave
524
00:34:25,486 --> 00:34:28,689
any witnesses.
Everybody is to be killed.
525
00:34:30,725 --> 00:34:34,495
She told them that when
Franklin first moved on to
526
00:34:34,595 --> 00:34:38,399
the property there at the camp,
he was friends with Gerald
527
00:34:38,499 --> 00:34:40,468
and the other members.
528
00:34:40,568 --> 00:34:42,303
But he didn't like what was
going on.
529
00:34:42,403 --> 00:34:47,274
He didn't like the brutality of
Cruz hurting other people.
530
00:34:47,375 --> 00:34:51,178
They tried to get him to
kind of be roped into
531
00:34:51,278 --> 00:34:52,279
this kind of thing,
532
00:34:52,380 --> 00:34:54,715
and there was no way
he was having it.
533
00:34:54,815 --> 00:34:58,586
I think he thought they were
capable of a lot of evil.
534
00:34:58,686 --> 00:35:03,758
So he was done, and he tried to
get other people when he left
535
00:35:03,858 --> 00:35:07,094
to leave with him,
and that's why they were over
536
00:35:07,194 --> 00:35:09,330
at the house that night.
537
00:35:09,430 --> 00:35:11,899
Those were people that
he helped get out of there,
538
00:35:11,999 --> 00:35:15,269
and they kind of had their own
little group, and that was
539
00:35:15,369 --> 00:35:16,971
really ticking Cruz off.
540
00:35:20,074 --> 00:35:24,178
Franklin wasn't afraid to stand
up to Cruz, and I think that's
541
00:35:24,278 --> 00:35:28,249
one of the reasons why Cruz had
to eliminate him as a threat
542
00:35:28,349 --> 00:35:31,385
because how are you gonna
control your entire camp
543
00:35:31,485 --> 00:35:35,189
and you let this one person
basically leave without any
544
00:35:35,289 --> 00:35:36,457
type of repercussions?
545
00:35:38,325 --> 00:35:39,593
He had to take some kind
of action.
546
00:35:42,496 --> 00:35:47,501
Michelle Evans stated prior to
leaving over there, Gerald Cruz
547
00:35:47,601 --> 00:35:50,104
made everybody
their assignments, which window
548
00:35:50,204 --> 00:35:51,906
they're gonna to come through,
and which door.
549
00:35:57,745 --> 00:36:02,116
So she drove the car,
and they drove to Elm Street.
550
00:36:02,216 --> 00:36:07,221
Instead, she parked her car
over by the railroad tracks,
551
00:36:07,321 --> 00:36:09,857
and she pointed to where
we found the murder weapons.
552
00:36:09,957 --> 00:36:12,293
That's where
she parked the car.
553
00:36:12,393 --> 00:36:15,930
Michelle went into the home
before the murders occurred,
554
00:36:16,030 --> 00:36:18,699
because her sister lived there,
so they wouldn't think anything
555
00:36:18,799 --> 00:36:21,535
about Michelle just walking
into the house.
556
00:36:21,635 --> 00:36:23,471
They were in that house,
557
00:36:23,571 --> 00:36:26,774
and Mr. Raper was extending
hospitality.
558
00:36:28,109 --> 00:36:30,077
Donna Alvarez was in bed.
559
00:36:34,915 --> 00:36:39,553
That's when Michelle went in
another bedroom and opened
560
00:36:39,653 --> 00:36:41,188
up the window.
561
00:36:41,288 --> 00:36:43,524
That's what the killers were
looking for.
562
00:36:47,628 --> 00:36:51,699
Michelle said somebody flipped
the breakers off at the house,
563
00:36:51,799 --> 00:36:54,268
which cut out the electricity
to the house.
564
00:37:00,841 --> 00:37:03,577
That's when they went in there
like gangbusters, coming in
565
00:37:03,677 --> 00:37:06,013
the windows, in the doors,
566
00:37:06,113 --> 00:37:08,983
and they caught everybody
off guard.
567
00:37:09,083 --> 00:37:12,153
Those poor people must have
been so freaked out when those
568
00:37:12,253 --> 00:37:15,623
guys came in wearing
masks and everything,
569
00:37:15,723 --> 00:37:18,459
because they went right over
and started attacking them.
570
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,596
Michelle said she was walking
outside, and she walked by
571
00:37:22,697 --> 00:37:25,866
a body right there in the front
yard and waited in the car
572
00:37:25,966 --> 00:37:27,268
until everything was over.
573
00:37:30,404 --> 00:37:32,740
Michelle Evans provided me
all the names
574
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:34,241
of everybody was there.
575
00:37:34,341 --> 00:37:36,977
With that information,
we put out a BOL, which is
576
00:37:37,078 --> 00:37:39,346
"be on the lookout,"
or all the names that
577
00:37:39,447 --> 00:37:43,117
we listed, and they're all
wanted for quadruple homicide.
578
00:37:44,919 --> 00:37:48,322
Dave Beck was already
in custody.
579
00:37:48,422 --> 00:37:52,360
The first individual that was
picked up was Ricky Vieira.
580
00:37:53,861 --> 00:37:57,164
And then Gerald Cruz,
who's the ringleader.
581
00:37:58,466 --> 00:38:01,836
Ron Willey was also arrested.
582
00:38:01,936 --> 00:38:06,240
Everyone except Jason LaMarsh,
they couldn't find him.
583
00:38:06,340 --> 00:38:07,975
He's the final one they want,
584
00:38:09,076 --> 00:38:10,077
and they want him bad.
585
00:38:11,445 --> 00:38:16,083
LaMarsh, he had borrowed a car
and drove with a female to
586
00:38:16,183 --> 00:38:19,453
Oregon, and she
did not know what for.
587
00:38:19,553 --> 00:38:24,525
And on the way up, he told her,
I was involved in the murders,
588
00:38:24,625 --> 00:38:27,395
the massacre on Elm Street.
589
00:38:27,495 --> 00:38:31,499
And she freaked out,
but she was cool about it.
590
00:38:32,867 --> 00:38:36,170
So when they got to Oregon,
a little town called Pendleton,
591
00:38:36,270 --> 00:38:38,906
they pulled in, got a motel.
592
00:38:39,006 --> 00:38:41,175
She's still freaked out,
thinking I'm here with
593
00:38:41,275 --> 00:38:42,276
this killer.
594
00:38:43,744 --> 00:38:46,580
So she finds a telephone.
595
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:49,183
Pendleton Police Department
activated the SWAT team
596
00:38:51,752 --> 00:38:54,655
and took him down at the motel
where he was staying.
597
00:38:59,960 --> 00:39:02,029
Breaking news today
at Pendleton.
598
00:39:02,129 --> 00:39:06,534
Police have just made an arrest
at a local motel.
599
00:39:06,634 --> 00:39:09,336
They arrested him
without incident.
600
00:39:09,437 --> 00:39:13,708
Detectives now have all
the suspects in custody.
601
00:39:13,808 --> 00:39:17,478
When they got into court,
the suspects, all five of them,
602
00:39:17,578 --> 00:39:19,146
were giddy almost.
603
00:39:19,246 --> 00:39:23,617
They were joking around that
they apparently didn't realize
604
00:39:23,718 --> 00:39:25,853
the severity of what
they had done.
605
00:39:25,953 --> 00:39:30,024
And it just angered
the families of the victims.
606
00:39:30,124 --> 00:39:33,861
It was really, really hard for
me for a long time to
607
00:39:33,961 --> 00:39:37,064
hear the details of the crime.
608
00:39:37,164 --> 00:39:38,499
They had no remorse at all.
609
00:39:38,599 --> 00:39:40,368
I know that for a fact.
610
00:39:40,468 --> 00:39:42,169
Everything was a joke.
611
00:39:42,269 --> 00:39:44,739
Apparently, they thought
they were going to beat the rap
612
00:39:44,839 --> 00:39:48,342
and everybody was going to get
off and eventually go home.
613
00:39:50,144 --> 00:39:53,948
Jason LaMarsh and Ron Willey
were convicted of four counts
614
00:39:54,048 --> 00:39:56,450
of second-degree murder,
and were both sentenced to
615
00:39:56,550 --> 00:39:57,785
62 years in prison.
616
00:40:00,888 --> 00:40:04,091
For Ricky Vieira, he is on death
row right now in San Quentin,
617
00:40:04,191 --> 00:40:06,660
along with Dave Beck
and Gerald Cruz.
618
00:40:19,206 --> 00:40:22,877
When you take four people's
lives so violently like that,
619
00:40:22,977 --> 00:40:26,781
I don't know what justice would
be for a crime like that, to be
620
00:40:26,881 --> 00:40:28,182
honest with you.
621
00:40:28,282 --> 00:40:32,453
I actually told them, I want to
be able to forgive you,
622
00:40:32,553 --> 00:40:35,623
but I can never forget what
you did to my dad.
623
00:40:41,896 --> 00:40:45,599
After my dad was killed,
I had this dream.
624
00:40:45,700 --> 00:40:47,868
And it's um...
625
00:40:47,968 --> 00:40:50,771
...and it was my grandma,
his mom,
626
00:40:52,073 --> 00:40:55,176
and all she was saying was,
"It's about time you got
627
00:40:55,276 --> 00:40:57,211
here, Franklin.
I've been waiting for you."
628
00:41:00,848 --> 00:41:04,919
And so it gave me a lot of
comfort to have that dream,
629
00:41:05,019 --> 00:41:08,222
because that dream came to me,
and I knew...
630
00:41:09,390 --> 00:41:10,391
...Dad's OK.
631
00:41:11,659 --> 00:41:12,660
He's at peace.
632
00:41:16,797 --> 00:41:17,865
In Cincinnati,
we have RiverFest
633
00:41:17,965 --> 00:41:19,667
and it's the biggest event
of the year.
634
00:41:19,767 --> 00:41:21,235
They have music.
They have fireworks.
635
00:41:22,236 --> 00:41:23,104
When you're on night crew,
636
00:41:23,204 --> 00:41:24,839
you just sit around
waiting for death.
637
00:41:25,673 --> 00:41:26,640
They were wasting their time
looking at me.
638
00:41:26,741 --> 00:41:28,209
Word was spreaking
among people.
639
00:41:28,309 --> 00:41:29,477
Would they be next?
640
00:41:29,577 --> 00:41:30,678
I was afraid to leave my house.
641
00:41:30,778 --> 00:41:33,347
We start off today
at a big party
642
00:41:33,447 --> 00:41:35,416
and we end up investigating
a murder.
52856
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