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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:35,723 --> 00:00:38,693 I was home in bed, and I received a call at 2 00:00:38,793 --> 00:00:40,628 approximately 1:00 to 1:30 in the morning. 3 00:00:42,530 --> 00:00:47,034 A neighbor saw a fight going on out in front of 4 00:00:47,134 --> 00:00:48,736 the residence on Elm Street. 5 00:00:50,104 --> 00:00:54,175 There was a man on the sidewalk in front of the residence, 6 00:00:54,275 --> 00:00:55,676 and he was motionless. 7 00:01:02,049 --> 00:01:04,285 I'm just trying to get there as fast as I can. 8 00:01:06,387 --> 00:01:09,290 So when I arrived at the scene, 9 00:01:09,390 --> 00:01:12,993 there was a body lying on the sidewalk, and there was 10 00:01:13,094 --> 00:01:15,162 a mask between his legs. 11 00:01:17,565 --> 00:01:21,435 The deputies were on the scene, and they were very, 12 00:01:21,535 --> 00:01:22,670 very spooked. 13 00:01:23,804 --> 00:01:28,342 They described going into the house and locating one body 14 00:01:30,177 --> 00:01:33,748 and locating another body, and described it almost like 15 00:01:33,848 --> 00:01:37,485 a Freddy Krueger coming out of a closet. 16 00:01:37,585 --> 00:01:41,155 These were big, muscular type of deputies. 17 00:01:41,255 --> 00:01:42,423 They didn't scare easy. 18 00:01:42,523 --> 00:01:45,259 And when I went in, 19 00:01:45,359 --> 00:01:47,528 and I see exactly what they were talking about. 20 00:01:51,532 --> 00:01:53,000 I've never seen anything like that in my life. 21 00:02:52,993 --> 00:02:55,162 That night, I believe it was a Sunday night, 22 00:02:55,262 --> 00:02:57,164 between one and two o'clock in the morning, 23 00:02:57,264 --> 00:03:00,234 I was notified by dispatch of a homicide. 24 00:03:03,904 --> 00:03:06,907 I got out of bed and jumped in the shower real quickly. 25 00:03:07,007 --> 00:03:10,044 And by the time I left the door, I had been called 26 00:03:10,144 --> 00:03:12,613 four different times adding another body to 27 00:03:12,713 --> 00:03:13,781 the crime scene... 28 00:03:16,016 --> 00:03:20,087 ...then I drove to the address on Elm Street in Salida. 29 00:03:22,156 --> 00:03:25,493 Most homicide scenes, there's always going to 30 00:03:25,593 --> 00:03:27,361 be evidence. You just have to find it. 31 00:03:27,461 --> 00:03:31,198 And the first 48 hours are the most important 32 00:03:31,298 --> 00:03:32,933 to get that case solved. 33 00:03:34,135 --> 00:03:37,571 Deputies were telling me that they had located four bodies 34 00:03:37,671 --> 00:03:38,839 at the scene. 35 00:03:38,939 --> 00:03:41,809 At first, I didn't believe 'em, because I've never been 36 00:03:41,909 --> 00:03:44,478 involved in a quadruple homicide, and I don't recall 37 00:03:44,578 --> 00:03:47,748 a quadruple homicide ever occurring in Stanislaus County. 38 00:03:49,050 --> 00:03:50,951 So there was no lights in the house. 39 00:03:52,286 --> 00:03:55,389 It was really very horrific, a lot of blood. 40 00:03:56,857 --> 00:04:01,162 Obviously the person lying on the sidewalk was deceased. 41 00:04:01,262 --> 00:04:03,297 He was a white male adult. 42 00:04:05,666 --> 00:04:08,002 There was three bodies inside of the residence. 43 00:04:09,236 --> 00:04:11,172 Two of them were in the kitchen, 44 00:04:13,140 --> 00:04:14,475 and one was in the living room. 45 00:04:16,777 --> 00:04:20,014 All of the victims were bludgeoned with some type of 46 00:04:20,114 --> 00:04:21,115 blunt instrument, 47 00:04:22,583 --> 00:04:26,187 in addition to a signature stab wound, 48 00:04:26,287 --> 00:04:28,923 and slices to the throat area. 49 00:04:36,764 --> 00:04:39,367 It was a bloody scene, but as an investigator, 50 00:04:39,467 --> 00:04:43,904 you don't care about how ugly it is, how much blood is there. 51 00:04:44,004 --> 00:04:49,543 These are their bodies. They're part of this puzzle. 52 00:04:49,643 --> 00:04:53,180 We identified three of the victims with ID that 53 00:04:53,280 --> 00:04:54,782 they had on the persons. 54 00:04:59,053 --> 00:05:02,723 One had been a Franklin Raper, who was 51 years old. 55 00:05:02,823 --> 00:05:04,992 Richard Ritchey, he was 25 years old. 56 00:05:06,327 --> 00:05:08,863 And Dennis Colwell, who was 35 years old. 57 00:05:10,331 --> 00:05:13,200 The one that we did not identify right away 58 00:05:13,300 --> 00:05:14,969 was a female. 59 00:05:16,604 --> 00:05:19,040 Young female, about 22 years of age. 60 00:05:20,408 --> 00:05:24,812 Her injury to her neck was so horrific that she was 61 00:05:24,912 --> 00:05:26,080 almost decapitated. 62 00:05:28,049 --> 00:05:29,984 Myself and the other investigators were all 63 00:05:30,084 --> 00:05:32,086 wondering how these people all related. 64 00:05:32,186 --> 00:05:34,555 We had no idea who knew each other because of 65 00:05:34,655 --> 00:05:35,656 the different ages. 66 00:05:37,124 --> 00:05:41,629 Immediately, it didn't look like home invasion or robbery 67 00:05:41,729 --> 00:05:44,832 because these people are brutally murdered. 68 00:05:44,932 --> 00:05:49,036 The people that did this wanted to kill people. 69 00:05:49,136 --> 00:05:52,573 Their objective was to kill these people. 70 00:05:54,408 --> 00:05:57,545 As far as who is capable of committing a quadruple 71 00:05:57,645 --> 00:06:01,882 homicide, just almost unheard of, especially in Salida. 72 00:06:01,982 --> 00:06:05,119 So at that point, we had no idea who the perpetrators were. 73 00:06:13,961 --> 00:06:18,999 I observed a camouflage mask in between the legs of the man 74 00:06:19,100 --> 00:06:21,869 who was lying deceased on the driveway. 75 00:06:21,969 --> 00:06:25,272 And there was another camouflage mask lying on 76 00:06:25,373 --> 00:06:27,775 the grass at the residence. 77 00:06:27,875 --> 00:06:30,644 There was a knit cap that was on the lawn. 78 00:06:30,745 --> 00:06:33,047 And when they looked at it, there was hair on it. 79 00:06:33,147 --> 00:06:36,417 DNA wasn't around much at that time. 80 00:06:36,517 --> 00:06:38,452 It was just in the beginning stages of it. 81 00:06:38,552 --> 00:06:42,523 But you can still match that hair, blood type, 82 00:06:42,623 --> 00:06:43,591 and stuff like that. 83 00:06:43,691 --> 00:06:46,127 So that was a good piece of evidence. 84 00:06:46,227 --> 00:06:51,399 I observed footprints leading from some dirt area near 85 00:06:51,499 --> 00:06:52,767 the gutter of the house. 86 00:06:52,867 --> 00:06:56,771 And that was going eastbound toward the railroad tracks. 87 00:06:58,773 --> 00:07:03,210 Following the footprints, there was a bat, 88 00:07:03,310 --> 00:07:07,415 a Ka-Bar knife, a knife sheath that they discarded. 89 00:07:07,515 --> 00:07:11,619 That tells me that there's more than one person that did this. 90 00:07:11,719 --> 00:07:15,823 So there was a trail, if you will, of evidence to 91 00:07:15,923 --> 00:07:19,627 where they went to a vehicle and then left the scene. 92 00:07:31,038 --> 00:07:34,475 A lot of the locals heard about it. 93 00:07:34,575 --> 00:07:37,945 The large crowd were outside the crime scene, actually to 94 00:07:38,045 --> 00:07:39,313 the perimeter of the crime scene. 95 00:07:40,681 --> 00:07:43,084 Salida wasn't a very large town in those days. 96 00:07:43,184 --> 00:07:44,852 It was a small farming community, 97 00:07:44,952 --> 00:07:46,887 just north of Modesto. 98 00:07:48,689 --> 00:07:52,693 I was a reporter at the Modesto Bee, and I covered crime. 99 00:07:52,793 --> 00:07:55,830 And, soon as we heard about it, everybody went out 100 00:07:55,930 --> 00:07:59,066 and started covering it. It just rocked the town. 101 00:08:03,104 --> 00:08:04,705 The deputies know what to do. 102 00:08:04,805 --> 00:08:07,608 They're basically freezing the crime scene, make sure 103 00:08:07,708 --> 00:08:08,843 nobody comes in and out. 104 00:08:10,845 --> 00:08:13,814 They're taping off the area and talking to people. 105 00:08:15,015 --> 00:08:18,252 The lady came up, she was visibly shaken 106 00:08:19,620 --> 00:08:22,423 and said, "Hey, I'm the sole survivor. 107 00:08:22,523 --> 00:08:24,458 I was there when it happened." 108 00:08:25,693 --> 00:08:28,763 The killers didn't know they had missed somebody 109 00:08:28,863 --> 00:08:30,064 and they had missed her. 110 00:08:30,164 --> 00:08:34,402 So we had a witness, a survivor, if you will, 111 00:08:34,502 --> 00:08:35,936 right at it. 112 00:08:36,037 --> 00:08:39,206 Pure evil came to the house on Elm Street that night. 113 00:08:39,306 --> 00:08:43,277 And I don't think detectives expected to find what they did. 114 00:09:01,228 --> 00:09:04,832 By the next morning, everybody in Salida knew about 115 00:09:04,932 --> 00:09:06,767 the massacre on Elm Street. 116 00:09:08,269 --> 00:09:12,273 It was just a horrible crime. It was a bloodbath. 117 00:09:14,542 --> 00:09:16,477 There was a lot of fear. 118 00:09:16,577 --> 00:09:18,813 They were afraid at that point that, hey, 119 00:09:18,913 --> 00:09:20,548 what's going on here? 120 00:09:20,648 --> 00:09:24,285 Somebody going to bust into my home and kill all my family? 121 00:09:24,385 --> 00:09:27,188 They had no idea yet who the killers were, 122 00:09:27,288 --> 00:09:29,190 so it was tense. 123 00:09:29,290 --> 00:09:31,859 Luckily, there was one survivor. 124 00:09:33,194 --> 00:09:37,031 Her name was Donna Alvarez, and I interviewed her for 125 00:09:37,131 --> 00:09:38,999 approximately an hour. 126 00:09:39,100 --> 00:09:41,736 Donna Alvarez told me that that was her first night 127 00:09:41,836 --> 00:09:43,137 being at that residence. 128 00:09:43,237 --> 00:09:45,106 She had never been there before. 129 00:09:45,206 --> 00:09:48,075 She said she was somewhat homeless. 130 00:09:48,175 --> 00:09:52,046 She had no place to go, and she arrived at 131 00:09:52,146 --> 00:09:55,349 the residence with one of the victims, Richard Ritchey, 132 00:09:55,449 --> 00:09:58,052 and Franklin Raper, who was living in 133 00:09:58,152 --> 00:10:01,188 the residence, told her she can spend the night there. 134 00:10:03,290 --> 00:10:05,359 She was in one of the bedrooms. 135 00:10:10,064 --> 00:10:12,800 And all of a sudden, she heard screaming. 136 00:10:12,900 --> 00:10:16,737 She wasn't sure what was going on, other than it was dark. 137 00:10:16,837 --> 00:10:19,240 And she knew something bad was happening. 138 00:10:24,145 --> 00:10:28,215 She looked out the door and saw everybody had 139 00:10:28,315 --> 00:10:30,317 a camouflage mask on. 140 00:10:32,620 --> 00:10:35,956 One of the individuals removed his mask briefly. 141 00:10:36,057 --> 00:10:39,293 And she said it was obviously a Caucasian, 142 00:10:39,393 --> 00:10:41,162 but he had Afro type of hair. 143 00:10:50,938 --> 00:10:55,376 And he had a gun, and told her to get into 144 00:10:55,476 --> 00:10:56,377 the living room. 145 00:10:56,477 --> 00:10:59,447 And then somehow he was distracted. 146 00:11:01,816 --> 00:11:05,152 She felt that she got to get out of there, so she went. 147 00:11:05,252 --> 00:11:07,755 The only place she could go was to the garage. 148 00:11:09,623 --> 00:11:14,528 She then hid under a pile of laundry that was on the floor 149 00:11:14,628 --> 00:11:15,596 of the garage. 150 00:11:17,732 --> 00:11:20,534 After hearing all the commotion, she said it got 151 00:11:20,634 --> 00:11:22,803 quiet, and she found out that everybody was murdered 152 00:11:22,903 --> 00:11:24,405 except for herself. 153 00:11:24,505 --> 00:11:29,110 Apparently, during the murder frenzy, they forgot about her, 154 00:11:29,210 --> 00:11:32,012 and she was able to slip out of the garage. 155 00:11:32,113 --> 00:11:35,082 I think the garage door was broken, and she was able to get 156 00:11:35,182 --> 00:11:37,051 under it and run to a neighbor's house, 157 00:11:37,151 --> 00:11:38,152 and called 911. 158 00:11:45,426 --> 00:11:49,964 I was walking outside the crime scene, made contact with a lady 159 00:11:50,064 --> 00:11:53,634 who stated that her daughter has been unaccounted for, 160 00:11:53,734 --> 00:11:59,740 and she hopes that the victim was not her daughter. 161 00:11:59,840 --> 00:12:02,443 And she said, "I heard my daughter might be one 162 00:12:02,543 --> 00:12:03,444 of the victims." 163 00:12:03,544 --> 00:12:06,647 And they said, "Well, can you identify 164 00:12:06,747 --> 00:12:08,015 anything about her?" 165 00:12:08,115 --> 00:12:10,718 And they said, "Well, she's real small and got dark hair, 166 00:12:10,818 --> 00:12:13,554 has a little tattoo on her." 167 00:12:15,690 --> 00:12:20,194 She had brought a photograph to us of her daughter. 168 00:12:20,294 --> 00:12:23,798 And based on that photograph, we were able to identify 169 00:12:23,898 --> 00:12:28,202 the young female victim as being the lady's daughter, 170 00:12:28,302 --> 00:12:29,370 Darlene Parris. 171 00:12:32,239 --> 00:12:36,410 These people all had families. A couple of them were married. 172 00:12:37,411 --> 00:12:41,649 And it was just real sad for the families 173 00:12:43,017 --> 00:12:46,687 that their loved ones were butchered like that. 174 00:12:49,757 --> 00:12:53,527 That night, I just had a weird feeling, like I was uneasy. 175 00:12:53,627 --> 00:12:55,029 I just, I don't know. 176 00:13:01,569 --> 00:13:04,305 I remember hearing the phone, 177 00:13:04,405 --> 00:13:07,842 probably two, three o'clock in the morning, and it was 178 00:13:07,942 --> 00:13:11,312 my brother saying "Dad's gone." 179 00:13:13,447 --> 00:13:17,518 And I just, you know, I think I fainted, I don't know, 180 00:13:17,618 --> 00:13:22,890 I just went down hard and it just was this devastation. 181 00:13:22,990 --> 00:13:26,160 I woke up from a dead sleep at that time and I heard my mom 182 00:13:26,260 --> 00:13:28,029 sobbing, and she was on the phone 183 00:13:28,129 --> 00:13:29,263 crying uncontrollably. 184 00:13:30,364 --> 00:13:33,134 We turned on the TV and there it was, 185 00:13:34,635 --> 00:13:35,703 bodies coming out of the house. 186 00:13:37,171 --> 00:13:40,341 It was right there, it was kind of stunning. 187 00:13:40,441 --> 00:13:42,376 You know you're never going to see your grandpa again. 188 00:13:45,279 --> 00:13:47,782 I knew him as Papa Red, Franklin, Franklin Raper, 189 00:13:47,882 --> 00:13:48,849 Papa Red. 190 00:13:48,949 --> 00:13:50,351 He liked us to call him Papa Red. 191 00:13:55,523 --> 00:14:00,127 My dad was very giving and loved his family and his 192 00:14:00,227 --> 00:14:02,797 family also included what he would call his people, 193 00:14:02,897 --> 00:14:04,999 which were not necessarily blood-related. 194 00:14:05,099 --> 00:14:09,904 But if they needed him to take care of them, he would step in 195 00:14:11,038 --> 00:14:13,507 and try to protect them as best as he could. 196 00:14:15,142 --> 00:14:18,212 He would want to bring people into the home, you know, 197 00:14:18,312 --> 00:14:19,914 that didn't have a place to go. 198 00:14:20,014 --> 00:14:22,950 But my mom just couldn't handle that because she had 199 00:14:23,050 --> 00:14:26,420 three kids. They did split up, 200 00:14:29,957 --> 00:14:31,859 That was-- it was tough for him to deal with. 201 00:14:37,565 --> 00:14:40,735 I remember at that time, it was kind of like, "What are 202 00:14:40,835 --> 00:14:43,070 you going to do, Papa? Like, where are you staying at? 203 00:14:43,170 --> 00:14:44,972 And he said, "Well, I'm staying close in Salida." 204 00:14:46,841 --> 00:14:49,443 But he was having issues with some people. 205 00:14:49,543 --> 00:14:50,778 I knew he was having some issues. 206 00:14:51,846 --> 00:14:54,315 'Cause I-- I heard my mom maybe a couple of weeks before that 207 00:14:54,415 --> 00:14:56,650 saying, "Dad, can you please come up here and just move up 208 00:14:56,751 --> 00:14:58,719 here with us and get out of the area for a while?" 209 00:14:58,819 --> 00:15:01,956 Detectives got a lead that Franklin had been in a fight 210 00:15:02,056 --> 00:15:05,860 with a gentleman that owned a repair shop there in Salida. 211 00:15:07,428 --> 00:15:09,163 They had some bad blood between them. 212 00:15:09,263 --> 00:15:13,300 There was several altercations over a year's time. 213 00:15:13,401 --> 00:15:15,202 And they actually got in a fist fight. 214 00:15:16,437 --> 00:15:19,140 And Franklin came back to the shop 215 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:20,741 after they had had some words. 216 00:15:20,841 --> 00:15:22,543 And he was in a car with another guy. 217 00:15:22,643 --> 00:15:26,147 And they started spinning donuts outside the shop. 218 00:15:31,619 --> 00:15:34,855 And um, unfortunately, Franklin's vehicle died. 219 00:15:34,955 --> 00:15:39,593 And so the owner of the repair shop confronted Franklin. 220 00:15:39,694 --> 00:15:42,296 They beat Franklin up pretty good. 221 00:15:42,396 --> 00:15:45,833 Basically, Franklin lost the fight. 222 00:15:45,933 --> 00:15:49,670 So I tracked him down by this auto parts place. 223 00:15:49,770 --> 00:15:52,073 He was not feeling too great. 224 00:15:52,173 --> 00:15:56,243 And I asked him, "Dad, what's going on?" 225 00:15:56,343 --> 00:16:00,081 And he said, "These guys are a bunch of punks." 226 00:16:00,181 --> 00:16:02,550 I didn't know who they were or had never met them 227 00:16:02,650 --> 00:16:06,554 or anything, but I was quite worried about him. 228 00:16:06,654 --> 00:16:11,992 Detectives zeroed in on the shop owner, tracking down 229 00:16:12,093 --> 00:16:14,795 all the problems he'd had with Franklin. 230 00:16:16,063 --> 00:16:18,499 They thought this could be the motive. 231 00:16:19,500 --> 00:16:23,270 If the individual who owned the automotive store is one of 232 00:16:23,371 --> 00:16:24,972 the persons that actually committed the murders, 233 00:16:25,072 --> 00:16:26,307 then he was dangerous. 234 00:16:26,407 --> 00:16:28,175 They didn't know what they were going to find. 235 00:16:28,275 --> 00:16:31,812 But if they were the killer, they were pure evil. 236 00:16:47,661 --> 00:16:50,998 Detectives started running down leads and chasing suspects, 237 00:16:51,098 --> 00:16:54,568 and they found out one of the victims, Franklin Raper, 238 00:16:54,668 --> 00:16:58,939 had had a beef with a guy that owned an auto body shop 239 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:01,542 there in Salida. 240 00:17:01,642 --> 00:17:05,046 So we went to the auto body repair shop and met with 241 00:17:05,146 --> 00:17:08,382 the owner and asked him if he heard about 242 00:17:08,482 --> 00:17:10,718 the quadruple homicide in Salida. 243 00:17:10,818 --> 00:17:14,855 And he tells me that everybody in Salida knows about it. 244 00:17:14,955 --> 00:17:17,625 He was asked if he had anything to do with it. 245 00:17:17,725 --> 00:17:21,629 And he admitted that he did not get along with Franklin, 246 00:17:21,729 --> 00:17:25,800 that him and Franklin did not like each other, but no way that 247 00:17:25,900 --> 00:17:28,569 he would kill Franklin Raper or anybody else. 248 00:17:28,669 --> 00:17:29,804 He had an alibi. 249 00:17:29,904 --> 00:17:32,973 He was home with his wife and family and in bed at 250 00:17:33,074 --> 00:17:34,875 the time of the murders. 251 00:17:34,975 --> 00:17:38,646 His family was interviewed, and they checked out his alibi. 252 00:17:40,181 --> 00:17:43,851 We determined that there was no indication that he would 253 00:17:43,951 --> 00:17:45,119 kill Franklin Raper. 254 00:17:47,054 --> 00:17:48,422 So they let him go. 255 00:17:52,693 --> 00:17:56,230 At this point, the town was on edge. 256 00:18:00,935 --> 00:18:01,902 They couldn't believe it. 257 00:18:02,002 --> 00:18:03,537 Salida's a nice little town. 258 00:18:04,872 --> 00:18:08,175 And here's this horrendous murder of four people. 259 00:18:11,212 --> 00:18:12,747 Everybody was afraid. 260 00:18:14,482 --> 00:18:18,386 I was in the fifth grade with Darlene's half sister, 261 00:18:18,486 --> 00:18:19,920 younger half sister. 262 00:18:20,021 --> 00:18:22,656 We realized that we were both part of this crime. 263 00:18:22,757 --> 00:18:26,560 My grandfather was a victim. Her older sister was a victim. 264 00:18:26,660 --> 00:18:28,896 For her being a sister and being so close like 265 00:18:28,996 --> 00:18:31,265 they were, it was definitely something I noticed impact 266 00:18:31,365 --> 00:18:33,868 her big time, from a change from when I knew her before. 267 00:18:35,302 --> 00:18:38,506 We were going through different therapy sessions 268 00:18:38,606 --> 00:18:41,942 and school counseling and connecting on our own. 269 00:18:43,110 --> 00:18:44,912 It was devastating for that family. 270 00:18:45,012 --> 00:18:46,047 It really was. 271 00:18:46,147 --> 00:18:47,548 It was devastating for everybody. 272 00:18:50,051 --> 00:18:52,319 These guys are, nobody's gonna be able to catch them. 273 00:18:52,420 --> 00:18:54,021 Are they gonna find out who did it? 274 00:18:54,121 --> 00:18:57,692 So it was a lot of fear at that time, a lot of fear. 275 00:18:59,126 --> 00:19:01,162 Nobody knew who the killers were. 276 00:19:01,262 --> 00:19:03,464 They didn't know if they were going to be next. 277 00:19:03,564 --> 00:19:05,633 It was a rough time. 278 00:19:07,401 --> 00:19:09,804 Detectives started looking elsewhere. 279 00:19:09,904 --> 00:19:12,807 They went to Franklin's family. 280 00:19:12,907 --> 00:19:16,444 I interviewed Franklin Raper's son, and he told me that 281 00:19:16,544 --> 00:19:19,046 Franklin Raper asked his son if he could borrow a gun. 282 00:19:20,347 --> 00:19:23,918 And his son said, "Why? Why do you need a gun, Dad?" 283 00:19:24,018 --> 00:19:27,355 And Franklin says, "Well, I'm afraid of this guy, 284 00:19:27,455 --> 00:19:30,991 Jason LaMarsh." And Franklin was no sissy. 285 00:19:31,092 --> 00:19:35,096 So to be afraid of some guy, his son thought, this guy must 286 00:19:35,196 --> 00:19:36,163 be a bad hombre. 287 00:19:37,565 --> 00:19:39,834 And it turned out he was. 288 00:19:39,934 --> 00:19:42,670 Jason LaMarsh was a bully. 289 00:19:42,770 --> 00:19:45,239 My grandpa would talk about him. 290 00:19:45,339 --> 00:19:47,041 And I know there was some bad blood there. 291 00:19:47,141 --> 00:19:52,279 Jason LaMarsh had stolen Franklin's car, put it out in 292 00:19:52,380 --> 00:19:54,248 the street, set it on fire. 293 00:19:56,117 --> 00:19:58,285 But then Franklin knew, hey, this is serious. 294 00:19:58,386 --> 00:20:00,454 I need to protect myself. 295 00:20:02,356 --> 00:20:05,259 Jason LaMarsh, he threatened to kill me. 296 00:20:09,063 --> 00:20:13,834 I knew that his car had been burned up, and they pulled him 297 00:20:13,934 --> 00:20:15,870 out of the car and broke his collarbone. 298 00:20:17,138 --> 00:20:18,973 So I went to see him. 299 00:20:19,073 --> 00:20:22,176 I actually had tried to get my dad to move. 300 00:20:22,276 --> 00:20:24,478 I cried and pretty much begged. 301 00:20:24,578 --> 00:20:26,981 I said, "You need to get out of this area, Dad. 302 00:20:27,081 --> 00:20:29,550 "It's really getting, this is too much. 303 00:20:29,650 --> 00:20:31,585 You can stay with us." 304 00:20:31,685 --> 00:20:34,555 He said, "No, I've been in this town a lot longer than 305 00:20:34,655 --> 00:20:37,224 they have, and they're not going to run me out." 306 00:20:37,324 --> 00:20:41,162 He said, "I'm good with the man upstairs." 307 00:20:41,262 --> 00:20:44,131 And he looked me right in the eye and said, "Don't worry, 308 00:20:44,231 --> 00:20:45,232 I'll be OK." 309 00:20:46,834 --> 00:20:51,105 And that was the last time I saw him, so. 310 00:20:51,205 --> 00:20:54,008 But I always felt that I at least tried. 311 00:20:54,108 --> 00:20:56,644 I tried to give him that option, you know, 312 00:20:56,744 --> 00:20:58,245 to get out of there. 313 00:21:00,281 --> 00:21:04,351 So we really wanted to locate Jason LaMarsh and find out 314 00:21:04,452 --> 00:21:07,121 exactly what was going on and interview him. 315 00:21:08,656 --> 00:21:11,492 So I immediately called the Sheriff's Office and ran 316 00:21:11,592 --> 00:21:12,660 a background check. 317 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:14,962 And we discovered that he had been arrested before, 318 00:21:15,062 --> 00:21:17,732 which indicates that we have a photograph of him. 319 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:23,003 And I showed Dawn Alvarez, who was in the house that 320 00:21:23,104 --> 00:21:26,640 night, the photo lineup and asked her if she could 321 00:21:26,741 --> 00:21:30,745 identify the person she saw at the crime scene. 322 00:21:30,845 --> 00:21:33,180 She immediately pointed to Jason LaMarsh. 323 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:36,751 She became hysterical, just as if 324 00:21:36,851 --> 00:21:39,019 Jason LaMarsh was there in person. 325 00:21:40,254 --> 00:21:43,057 Well, in trying to track LaMarsh down, 326 00:21:43,157 --> 00:21:48,963 detectives contacted LaMarsh's girlfriend, Michelle Evans. 327 00:21:49,063 --> 00:21:52,199 And his girlfriend didn't know where he was. 328 00:21:53,300 --> 00:21:56,237 Or she said she didn't. 329 00:21:56,337 --> 00:21:59,173 And they learned that her sister, Tanya Miller, 330 00:21:59,273 --> 00:22:01,909 had also been living in that house where 331 00:22:02,009 --> 00:22:03,077 the murders occurred. 332 00:22:03,177 --> 00:22:06,080 But she was staying with her mother that night. 333 00:22:08,015 --> 00:22:11,085 We thought that we had to find her and interview her to find 334 00:22:11,185 --> 00:22:13,854 out if there was any connection between her 335 00:22:13,954 --> 00:22:18,225 and the murders itself. Tanya Miller was stricken. 336 00:22:18,325 --> 00:22:21,095 She had no idea why somebody would come in 337 00:22:21,195 --> 00:22:22,596 and commit these murders. 338 00:22:22,697 --> 00:22:24,198 At that point, we confirmed that 339 00:22:24,298 --> 00:22:25,533 she was not there, 340 00:22:25,633 --> 00:22:28,235 and no indication that she participated in the murders 341 00:22:28,335 --> 00:22:29,837 or had any knowledge 342 00:22:29,937 --> 00:22:31,439 of what had occurred. 343 00:22:31,539 --> 00:22:35,209 They ask her, "Do you know Jason LaMarsh?" 344 00:22:35,309 --> 00:22:38,813 She said, "Yes, my sister dates him." 345 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:41,348 She did not like him. 346 00:22:41,449 --> 00:22:44,185 She did not like her sister hanging out with Jason LaMarsh 347 00:22:44,285 --> 00:22:47,988 because he brought her into a group of people that 348 00:22:48,089 --> 00:22:49,557 she did not like. 349 00:22:51,258 --> 00:22:55,863 And these people, they had been known to cause trouble. 350 00:22:57,264 --> 00:23:02,036 The group was living at a little ramshackle ex-labor 351 00:23:02,136 --> 00:23:04,672 camp that had been abandoned there in Salida. 352 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:07,508 It was called "The Camp." 353 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:15,216 She stated that Franklin Raper 354 00:23:15,316 --> 00:23:17,518 actually lived at The Camp for a while. 355 00:23:17,618 --> 00:23:20,321 And then when he left The Camp, she allowed him to stay at 356 00:23:20,421 --> 00:23:24,859 the residence on Elm Street to get away from the people 357 00:23:24,959 --> 00:23:25,960 who lived at The Camp. 358 00:23:27,294 --> 00:23:31,365 So the detectives decided, we're going to see for 359 00:23:31,465 --> 00:23:32,967 ourselves what's going on. 360 00:23:35,136 --> 00:23:39,240 And so we went out talking to people, gathering information. 361 00:23:40,241 --> 00:23:43,477 The community felt like they didn't want anything to do 362 00:23:43,577 --> 00:23:45,046 with those people. 363 00:23:45,146 --> 00:23:48,049 They could see armed guards walking around the perimeter 364 00:23:48,149 --> 00:23:49,150 of the place. 365 00:23:50,351 --> 00:23:51,886 They had heard rumors 366 00:23:51,986 --> 00:23:54,755 that there was satanic rituals being held there. 367 00:23:54,855 --> 00:23:57,992 Community didn't really know what these people were 368 00:23:58,092 --> 00:24:00,094 all about, they were just afraid of them. 369 00:24:01,228 --> 00:24:05,199 Well, after we had developed this information, we're going 370 00:24:05,299 --> 00:24:09,437 to go there and, you know, talk to them and see where 371 00:24:09,537 --> 00:24:10,438 they were last night. 372 00:24:22,516 --> 00:24:23,951 We arrived, I think it was 373 00:24:24,051 --> 00:24:25,619 about five o'clock in the morning. 374 00:24:27,588 --> 00:24:30,324 The camp itself was probably an estimated maybe 375 00:24:30,424 --> 00:24:34,595 a half acre big, and the back of the residence was what looked 376 00:24:34,695 --> 00:24:38,366 like a two-bedroom wooden construction home. 377 00:24:38,466 --> 00:24:40,768 When they got there, no one was there. 378 00:24:43,871 --> 00:24:46,173 There was a clothesline in front of the house. 379 00:24:48,843 --> 00:24:50,678 And I go, camouflage clothing? 380 00:24:50,778 --> 00:24:52,680 That's what the killers were wearing. 381 00:24:54,248 --> 00:24:57,618 We were kind of real concerned about our safety. 382 00:24:57,718 --> 00:25:03,157 We had to be aware of the danger that's out there. 383 00:25:03,257 --> 00:25:04,859 They were vicious people. 384 00:25:04,959 --> 00:25:07,294 Whatever triggers them, they can strike, 385 00:25:07,395 --> 00:25:10,331 and they strike at any time. 386 00:25:10,431 --> 00:25:12,800 If that was the group that actually committed the murders, 387 00:25:12,900 --> 00:25:15,503 they probably would have no problems killing us. 388 00:25:38,125 --> 00:25:40,861 You've got a bunch of people living here in the camp, 389 00:25:40,961 --> 00:25:47,435 and Jason LaMarsh is one of them, and he's a prime suspect. 390 00:25:47,535 --> 00:25:49,870 So the detectives didn't know what they were going to find. 391 00:25:54,709 --> 00:25:57,311 And then a man came up and started talking 392 00:25:57,411 --> 00:25:58,412 to detectives. 393 00:25:58,512 --> 00:26:02,483 He said he was named Gerald Cruz. 394 00:26:02,583 --> 00:26:07,588 We learned that Gerald Cruz was the leader of The Cause. 395 00:26:07,688 --> 00:26:11,092 He was a big man. He was 300 and... plus. 396 00:26:12,293 --> 00:26:15,996 We started talking to Mr. Cruz. 397 00:26:16,097 --> 00:26:18,132 And I asked him if he had heard about 398 00:26:18,232 --> 00:26:20,601 the quadruple homicide in Salida. 399 00:26:20,701 --> 00:26:24,171 And he said, no, he hadn't heard about it. 400 00:26:24,271 --> 00:26:26,107 "I don't know anything. What are you talking about? 401 00:26:26,207 --> 00:26:27,341 I don't know what you're talking about." 402 00:26:29,543 --> 00:26:30,678 You know. 403 00:26:30,778 --> 00:26:33,447 Which I thought was very strange, because everybody in 404 00:26:33,547 --> 00:26:35,349 Salida had heard about it. 405 00:26:35,449 --> 00:26:38,319 As an investigator, you can tell when people are 406 00:26:38,419 --> 00:26:41,989 lying to you. Something's not right here. 407 00:26:42,089 --> 00:26:46,994 What immediately struck me was his shoes had a couple of very, 408 00:26:47,094 --> 00:26:52,400 very small specks on them that, in my mind, could be blood. 409 00:26:53,634 --> 00:26:57,371 I told myself that I believe this guy could very well be 410 00:26:57,471 --> 00:27:00,841 one of the suspects in the homicide. 411 00:27:00,941 --> 00:27:03,644 I asked him if Jason LaMarsh lived on the property, 412 00:27:03,744 --> 00:27:08,115 and he pointed to a trailer that Jason was staying in. 413 00:27:08,215 --> 00:27:11,485 But he said he was not home, and he stated no, he does not 414 00:27:11,585 --> 00:27:12,887 know where he's at. 415 00:27:12,987 --> 00:27:15,790 Now, walking back, I know what I was thinking. 416 00:27:15,890 --> 00:27:18,826 And I knew that, all right, there's something here. 417 00:27:18,926 --> 00:27:21,062 I'm gonna start putting a search warrant together. 418 00:27:22,496 --> 00:27:24,065 And at the same time, 419 00:27:24,165 --> 00:27:26,333 we're gonna watch this place. 420 00:27:45,086 --> 00:27:49,457 We found weapons that were illegal, bomb-making materials, 421 00:27:49,557 --> 00:27:52,593 explosive materials that were illegal. 422 00:27:52,693 --> 00:27:56,163 Now they're really concerned. 423 00:27:56,263 --> 00:27:59,834 We're not sure what the intent was, other than somewhere down 424 00:27:59,934 --> 00:28:02,136 the line, maybe they were going to do something else. 425 00:28:02,236 --> 00:28:07,408 We also found books on Satanism and astrology, 426 00:28:07,508 --> 00:28:10,077 and different type of materials such as that. 427 00:28:14,849 --> 00:28:18,252 People that actually were in The Cause actually were forced 428 00:28:18,352 --> 00:28:22,690 to get their finger cut and put their fingerprint in this book 429 00:28:22,790 --> 00:28:23,791 that Gerald kept. 430 00:28:25,426 --> 00:28:28,396 They were forced to write a diary, and he would read 431 00:28:28,496 --> 00:28:31,232 the diaries, because in his mind, he thought, well, 432 00:28:31,332 --> 00:28:32,900 if I know what they're thinking of then, 433 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,569 I can control them better. 434 00:28:35,669 --> 00:28:38,272 And then detectives found things that were beyond 435 00:28:38,372 --> 00:28:39,707 their wildest nightmare. 436 00:28:41,075 --> 00:28:43,711 There was a wheel, a punishment wheel, 437 00:28:43,811 --> 00:28:44,812 that we found. 438 00:28:46,414 --> 00:28:48,649 It was called the "Wheel of Punishment." 439 00:28:48,749 --> 00:28:54,355 And when Cruz thought somebody had done wrong or had screwed 440 00:28:54,455 --> 00:28:58,325 up, he would throw it in the air and have them catch it. 441 00:28:58,426 --> 00:29:01,796 Wherever their thumb landed, that was a punishment they got. 442 00:29:04,098 --> 00:29:06,867 He would discipline them by doing things like withholding 443 00:29:06,967 --> 00:29:11,172 food, withholding clothing, making them sleep on 444 00:29:11,272 --> 00:29:14,675 the concrete without any type of blanket or anything. 445 00:29:14,775 --> 00:29:18,512 He would use forced sodomy, he would use oral copulation. 446 00:29:18,612 --> 00:29:21,549 It could be all kinds of bizarre happenings, 447 00:29:21,649 --> 00:29:23,384 whatever Gerald came up with. 448 00:29:23,484 --> 00:29:27,555 It would dehumanize the people that were under him, 449 00:29:29,523 --> 00:29:33,894 and they would look to him for everything, 450 00:29:33,994 --> 00:29:36,864 for their basic needs. 451 00:29:36,964 --> 00:29:42,737 Gerald Cruz would exhibit a lot of the traditional types of 452 00:29:42,837 --> 00:29:45,339 manifestations that cult leaders exhibit. 453 00:29:45,439 --> 00:29:48,209 Mind control, physical torture, 454 00:29:48,309 --> 00:29:51,145 financial control, sexuality. 455 00:29:51,245 --> 00:29:57,318 His group dynamics were based upon his ability to control 456 00:29:57,418 --> 00:29:58,652 everybody around him. 457 00:30:00,221 --> 00:30:02,523 They were under the influence, the mental influence, 458 00:30:02,623 --> 00:30:03,491 of Gerald Cruz. 459 00:30:03,591 --> 00:30:04,692 That was scary. 460 00:30:08,662 --> 00:30:12,633 So after the search warrant was conducted, we found receipts 461 00:30:12,733 --> 00:30:16,203 where they had purchased a Ka-Bar knife and where 462 00:30:16,303 --> 00:30:19,473 they had purchased camouflage masks. 463 00:30:19,573 --> 00:30:23,778 Everything was falling into line as to leading to 464 00:30:23,878 --> 00:30:26,514 the suspects at The Camp being the perpetrators 465 00:30:26,614 --> 00:30:27,615 of the homicide. 466 00:30:28,816 --> 00:30:30,551 But we don't have the suspects in custody. 467 00:30:31,652 --> 00:30:35,856 Now they just needed to find out who was involved out of 468 00:30:35,956 --> 00:30:40,394 the group there and what their participation was. 469 00:30:57,578 --> 00:30:58,846 Now we're on day... 470 00:30:59,947 --> 00:31:03,551 ...I believe, day two, or two and a half. 471 00:31:03,651 --> 00:31:06,253 And none of us have been to bed yet. 472 00:31:06,353 --> 00:31:11,125 So I told Sergeant Larson that I was going to get a few hours 473 00:31:11,225 --> 00:31:14,995 sleep, because if we did catch these suspects, one of us had 474 00:31:15,096 --> 00:31:17,198 to be somewhat coherent in order to interview them. 475 00:31:19,467 --> 00:31:22,570 When I got up, I had learned that Michelle Evans 476 00:31:22,670 --> 00:31:24,438 was booked for murder. 477 00:31:24,538 --> 00:31:28,843 Michelle Evans was Jason LaMarsh's girlfriend, 478 00:31:30,311 --> 00:31:34,215 and her sister, Tanya Miller, had also been living there in 479 00:31:34,315 --> 00:31:37,752 that house on Elm Street, so there was that connection. 480 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:44,025 Michelle Evans was very nervous, she was avoiding questions. 481 00:31:44,125 --> 00:31:46,327 She did not provide any information as to 482 00:31:47,461 --> 00:31:50,264 her involvement or anybody else at that time. 483 00:31:51,265 --> 00:31:55,636 We found out at that time, she was a good friend of 484 00:31:55,736 --> 00:31:59,173 David Beck, and Beck was also at the camp. 485 00:32:00,341 --> 00:32:03,544 Jason LaMarsh, Beck, and Cruz were the main 486 00:32:03,644 --> 00:32:05,246 characters at The Camp. 487 00:32:05,346 --> 00:32:10,317 So we arrested Beck and brought him in. 488 00:32:10,418 --> 00:32:13,821 Mr. Beck, Dave Beck, he wouldn't tell us anything. 489 00:32:13,921 --> 00:32:17,792 Of course, denied it, and so did Michelle Evans. 490 00:32:17,892 --> 00:32:22,596 And so we put them in the same interview room. 491 00:32:23,898 --> 00:32:27,134 And that led to a big break in the case. 492 00:32:29,270 --> 00:32:32,306 So this was a real rock they flipped over out there, 493 00:32:32,406 --> 00:32:33,908 and all the snakes came out. 494 00:32:39,580 --> 00:32:42,750 Detectives needed to find out who was involved in the murders 495 00:32:42,850 --> 00:32:46,954 of Franklin Raper, Darlene Paris, Rich Ritchey, 496 00:32:47,054 --> 00:32:50,124 and Dennis Colwell, the massacre on Elm Street. 497 00:32:51,525 --> 00:32:54,095 They're starting to gather people up, you know, 498 00:32:54,195 --> 00:32:56,764 and bring them in for questioning. 499 00:32:56,864 --> 00:33:00,901 We arrested David Beck and brought him in and also 500 00:33:01,001 --> 00:33:02,002 Michelle Evans. 501 00:33:03,137 --> 00:33:06,874 And we put them in the same interview room. 502 00:33:06,974 --> 00:33:12,613 That's an age-old tactic used by investigators. 503 00:33:12,713 --> 00:33:16,717 And she went in there and started talking in a low 504 00:33:16,817 --> 00:33:21,589 voice and telling him that she did not tell us that-- 505 00:33:21,689 --> 00:33:24,258 anything about him being involved. 506 00:33:24,358 --> 00:33:27,762 And Mr. Beck was doing everything 507 00:33:27,862 --> 00:33:30,431 with his hand motions without saying anything, 508 00:33:30,531 --> 00:33:34,101 for her to shut up. But she kept talking. 509 00:33:35,903 --> 00:33:39,707 And after that conversation, I immediately conducted my own 510 00:33:39,807 --> 00:33:43,244 interview with Michelle to see what, if any, information that 511 00:33:43,344 --> 00:33:44,412 I could obtain. 512 00:33:44,512 --> 00:33:47,648 After back and forth for approximately one hour, 513 00:33:47,748 --> 00:33:52,319 Michelle finally cracked and agreed to tell me exactly 514 00:33:52,420 --> 00:33:53,421 what happened. 515 00:33:55,289 --> 00:33:58,793 Michelle Evans told me the night before they committed 516 00:33:58,893 --> 00:34:03,931 the murders, they had a bonfire at the camp, and they all were 517 00:34:04,031 --> 00:34:08,069 basically psyching themselves out, going over to kill 518 00:34:08,169 --> 00:34:09,136 Franklin Raper. 519 00:34:10,471 --> 00:34:12,440 He was the target at that time. 520 00:34:13,708 --> 00:34:15,943 Besides Franklin Raper, everybody else 521 00:34:16,043 --> 00:34:17,645 was at the wrong place at the wrong time. 522 00:34:17,745 --> 00:34:20,781 The suspects had no idea who was going to be there, 523 00:34:20,881 --> 00:34:25,386 but they were instructed by Gerald Cruz not to leave 524 00:34:25,486 --> 00:34:28,689 any witnesses. Everybody is to be killed. 525 00:34:30,725 --> 00:34:34,495 She told them that when Franklin first moved on to 526 00:34:34,595 --> 00:34:38,399 the property there at the camp, he was friends with Gerald 527 00:34:38,499 --> 00:34:40,468 and the other members. 528 00:34:40,568 --> 00:34:42,303 But he didn't like what was going on. 529 00:34:42,403 --> 00:34:47,274 He didn't like the brutality of Cruz hurting other people. 530 00:34:47,375 --> 00:34:51,178 They tried to get him to kind of be roped into 531 00:34:51,278 --> 00:34:52,279 this kind of thing, 532 00:34:52,380 --> 00:34:54,715 and there was no way he was having it. 533 00:34:54,815 --> 00:34:58,586 I think he thought they were capable of a lot of evil. 534 00:34:58,686 --> 00:35:03,758 So he was done, and he tried to get other people when he left 535 00:35:03,858 --> 00:35:07,094 to leave with him, and that's why they were over 536 00:35:07,194 --> 00:35:09,330 at the house that night. 537 00:35:09,430 --> 00:35:11,899 Those were people that he helped get out of there, 538 00:35:11,999 --> 00:35:15,269 and they kind of had their own little group, and that was 539 00:35:15,369 --> 00:35:16,971 really ticking Cruz off. 540 00:35:20,074 --> 00:35:24,178 Franklin wasn't afraid to stand up to Cruz, and I think that's 541 00:35:24,278 --> 00:35:28,249 one of the reasons why Cruz had to eliminate him as a threat 542 00:35:28,349 --> 00:35:31,385 because how are you gonna control your entire camp 543 00:35:31,485 --> 00:35:35,189 and you let this one person basically leave without any 544 00:35:35,289 --> 00:35:36,457 type of repercussions? 545 00:35:38,325 --> 00:35:39,593 He had to take some kind of action. 546 00:35:42,496 --> 00:35:47,501 Michelle Evans stated prior to leaving over there, Gerald Cruz 547 00:35:47,601 --> 00:35:50,104 made everybody their assignments, which window 548 00:35:50,204 --> 00:35:51,906 they're gonna to come through, and which door. 549 00:35:57,745 --> 00:36:02,116 So she drove the car, and they drove to Elm Street. 550 00:36:02,216 --> 00:36:07,221 Instead, she parked her car over by the railroad tracks, 551 00:36:07,321 --> 00:36:09,857 and she pointed to where we found the murder weapons. 552 00:36:09,957 --> 00:36:12,293 That's where she parked the car. 553 00:36:12,393 --> 00:36:15,930 Michelle went into the home before the murders occurred, 554 00:36:16,030 --> 00:36:18,699 because her sister lived there, so they wouldn't think anything 555 00:36:18,799 --> 00:36:21,535 about Michelle just walking into the house. 556 00:36:21,635 --> 00:36:23,471 They were in that house, 557 00:36:23,571 --> 00:36:26,774 and Mr. Raper was extending hospitality. 558 00:36:28,109 --> 00:36:30,077 Donna Alvarez was in bed. 559 00:36:34,915 --> 00:36:39,553 That's when Michelle went in another bedroom and opened 560 00:36:39,653 --> 00:36:41,188 up the window. 561 00:36:41,288 --> 00:36:43,524 That's what the killers were looking for. 562 00:36:47,628 --> 00:36:51,699 Michelle said somebody flipped the breakers off at the house, 563 00:36:51,799 --> 00:36:54,268 which cut out the electricity to the house. 564 00:37:00,841 --> 00:37:03,577 That's when they went in there like gangbusters, coming in 565 00:37:03,677 --> 00:37:06,013 the windows, in the doors, 566 00:37:06,113 --> 00:37:08,983 and they caught everybody off guard. 567 00:37:09,083 --> 00:37:12,153 Those poor people must have been so freaked out when those 568 00:37:12,253 --> 00:37:15,623 guys came in wearing masks and everything, 569 00:37:15,723 --> 00:37:18,459 because they went right over and started attacking them. 570 00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,596 Michelle said she was walking outside, and she walked by 571 00:37:22,697 --> 00:37:25,866 a body right there in the front yard and waited in the car 572 00:37:25,966 --> 00:37:27,268 until everything was over. 573 00:37:30,404 --> 00:37:32,740 Michelle Evans provided me all the names 574 00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:34,241 of everybody was there. 575 00:37:34,341 --> 00:37:36,977 With that information, we put out a BOL, which is 576 00:37:37,078 --> 00:37:39,346 "be on the lookout," or all the names that 577 00:37:39,447 --> 00:37:43,117 we listed, and they're all wanted for quadruple homicide. 578 00:37:44,919 --> 00:37:48,322 Dave Beck was already in custody. 579 00:37:48,422 --> 00:37:52,360 The first individual that was picked up was Ricky Vieira. 580 00:37:53,861 --> 00:37:57,164 And then Gerald Cruz, who's the ringleader. 581 00:37:58,466 --> 00:38:01,836 Ron Willey was also arrested. 582 00:38:01,936 --> 00:38:06,240 Everyone except Jason LaMarsh, they couldn't find him. 583 00:38:06,340 --> 00:38:07,975 He's the final one they want, 584 00:38:09,076 --> 00:38:10,077 and they want him bad. 585 00:38:11,445 --> 00:38:16,083 LaMarsh, he had borrowed a car and drove with a female to 586 00:38:16,183 --> 00:38:19,453 Oregon, and she did not know what for. 587 00:38:19,553 --> 00:38:24,525 And on the way up, he told her, I was involved in the murders, 588 00:38:24,625 --> 00:38:27,395 the massacre on Elm Street. 589 00:38:27,495 --> 00:38:31,499 And she freaked out, but she was cool about it. 590 00:38:32,867 --> 00:38:36,170 So when they got to Oregon, a little town called Pendleton, 591 00:38:36,270 --> 00:38:38,906 they pulled in, got a motel. 592 00:38:39,006 --> 00:38:41,175 She's still freaked out, thinking I'm here with 593 00:38:41,275 --> 00:38:42,276 this killer. 594 00:38:43,744 --> 00:38:46,580 So she finds a telephone. 595 00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:49,183 Pendleton Police Department activated the SWAT team 596 00:38:51,752 --> 00:38:54,655 and took him down at the motel where he was staying. 597 00:38:59,960 --> 00:39:02,029 Breaking news today at Pendleton. 598 00:39:02,129 --> 00:39:06,534 Police have just made an arrest at a local motel. 599 00:39:06,634 --> 00:39:09,336 They arrested him without incident. 600 00:39:09,437 --> 00:39:13,708 Detectives now have all the suspects in custody. 601 00:39:13,808 --> 00:39:17,478 When they got into court, the suspects, all five of them, 602 00:39:17,578 --> 00:39:19,146 were giddy almost. 603 00:39:19,246 --> 00:39:23,617 They were joking around that they apparently didn't realize 604 00:39:23,718 --> 00:39:25,853 the severity of what they had done. 605 00:39:25,953 --> 00:39:30,024 And it just angered the families of the victims. 606 00:39:30,124 --> 00:39:33,861 It was really, really hard for me for a long time to 607 00:39:33,961 --> 00:39:37,064 hear the details of the crime. 608 00:39:37,164 --> 00:39:38,499 They had no remorse at all. 609 00:39:38,599 --> 00:39:40,368 I know that for a fact. 610 00:39:40,468 --> 00:39:42,169 Everything was a joke. 611 00:39:42,269 --> 00:39:44,739 Apparently, they thought they were going to beat the rap 612 00:39:44,839 --> 00:39:48,342 and everybody was going to get off and eventually go home. 613 00:39:50,144 --> 00:39:53,948 Jason LaMarsh and Ron Willey were convicted of four counts 614 00:39:54,048 --> 00:39:56,450 of second-degree murder, and were both sentenced to 615 00:39:56,550 --> 00:39:57,785 62 years in prison. 616 00:40:00,888 --> 00:40:04,091 For Ricky Vieira, he is on death row right now in San Quentin, 617 00:40:04,191 --> 00:40:06,660 along with Dave Beck and Gerald Cruz. 618 00:40:19,206 --> 00:40:22,877 When you take four people's lives so violently like that, 619 00:40:22,977 --> 00:40:26,781 I don't know what justice would be for a crime like that, to be 620 00:40:26,881 --> 00:40:28,182 honest with you. 621 00:40:28,282 --> 00:40:32,453 I actually told them, I want to be able to forgive you, 622 00:40:32,553 --> 00:40:35,623 but I can never forget what you did to my dad. 623 00:40:41,896 --> 00:40:45,599 After my dad was killed, I had this dream. 624 00:40:45,700 --> 00:40:47,868 And it's um... 625 00:40:47,968 --> 00:40:50,771 ...and it was my grandma, his mom, 626 00:40:52,073 --> 00:40:55,176 and all she was saying was, "It's about time you got 627 00:40:55,276 --> 00:40:57,211 here, Franklin. I've been waiting for you." 628 00:41:00,848 --> 00:41:04,919 And so it gave me a lot of comfort to have that dream, 629 00:41:05,019 --> 00:41:08,222 because that dream came to me, and I knew... 630 00:41:09,390 --> 00:41:10,391 ...Dad's OK. 631 00:41:11,659 --> 00:41:12,660 He's at peace. 632 00:41:16,797 --> 00:41:17,865 In Cincinnati, we have RiverFest 633 00:41:17,965 --> 00:41:19,667 and it's the biggest event of the year. 634 00:41:19,767 --> 00:41:21,235 They have music. They have fireworks. 635 00:41:22,236 --> 00:41:23,104 When you're on night crew, 636 00:41:23,204 --> 00:41:24,839 you just sit around waiting for death. 637 00:41:25,673 --> 00:41:26,640 They were wasting their time looking at me. 638 00:41:26,741 --> 00:41:28,209 Word was spreaking among people. 639 00:41:28,309 --> 00:41:29,477 Would they be next? 640 00:41:29,577 --> 00:41:30,678 I was afraid to leave my house. 641 00:41:30,778 --> 00:41:33,347 We start off today at a big party 642 00:41:33,447 --> 00:41:35,416 and we end up investigating a murder. 52856

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