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so I saw a YouTube short the other day
so I saw a YouTube short the other day
so I saw a YouTube short the other day talking about this it's a retention
talking about this it's a retention
talking about this it's a retention frame for the am5 socket that replaces
frame for the am5 socket that replaces
frame for the am5 socket that replaces the factory frame and it's marketed to
the factory frame and it's marketed to
the factory frame and it's marketed to reduce temperatures in the Seventh
reduce temperatures in the Seventh
reduce temperatures in the Seventh Generation ryzen CPUs but does it
Generation ryzen CPUs but does it
Generation ryzen CPUs but does it work I don't know let's find out stay
tuned so if you watch the build of the
tuned so if you watch the build of the
tuned so if you watch the build of the system right here a few weeks ago you'll
system right here a few weeks ago you'll
system right here a few weeks ago you'll remember that I complained that the
remember that I complained that the
remember that I complained that the stock cooler that comes with the 7600 is
stock cooler that comes with the 7600 is
stock cooler that comes with the 7600 is just barely enough to keep the CPU cool
just barely enough to keep the CPU cool
just barely enough to keep the CPU cool now my choice to go with the 7600
now my choice to go with the 7600
now my choice to go with the 7600 instead of the 7600 X was based on the
instead of the 7600 X was based on the
instead of the 7600 X was based on the fact that the 7600 came with a stock
fact that the 7600 came with a stock
fact that the 7600 came with a stock cooler and we were trying to stay on a
cooler and we were trying to stay on a
cooler and we were trying to stay on a budget but it turned out that the
budget but it turned out that the
budget but it turned out that the 7600 pretty consistently ran about 85c
7600 pretty consistently ran about 85c
7600 pretty consistently ran about 85c with the stock cooler it turns out that
with the stock cooler it turns out that
with the stock cooler it turns out that is due to the Boost algorithm in the
is due to the Boost algorithm in the
is due to the Boost algorithm in the Seventh Generation ryzen CPUs and not so
Seventh Generation ryzen CPUs and not so
Seventh Generation ryzen CPUs and not so much the cooler but we'll get into that
much the cooler but we'll get into that
much the cooler but we'll get into that in a little bit but in my research to
in a little bit but in my research to
in a little bit but in my research to try to cool this thing down I thought
try to cool this thing down I thought
try to cool this thing down I thought maybe this could help so we're going to
maybe this could help so we're going to
maybe this could help so we're going to try it out and then we're going to talk
try it out and then we're going to talk
try it out and then we're going to talk about why the Seventh Generation ryzen's
about why the Seventh Generation ryzen's
about why the Seventh Generation ryzen's run so hot to begin with but first I got
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with the video so I want to do a quick
with the video so I want to do a quick Public Service Announcement really quick
Public Service Announcement really quick
Public Service Announcement really quick before we get into the video and on the
before we get into the video and on the
before we get into the video and on the video where we build this system there's
video where we build this system there's
video where we build this system there's a bunch of scammers I guess that are
a bunch of scammers I guess that are
a bunch of scammers I guess that are claiming that I'm giving this system
claiming that I'm giving this system
claiming that I'm giving this system away and unfortunately I'm not I'd love
away and unfortunately I'm not I'd love
away and unfortunately I'm not I'd love to but if you guys watch the video
to but if you guys watch the video
to but if you guys watch the video you'll know that I plan to gut this
you'll know that I plan to gut this
you'll know that I plan to gut this thing and make it my new system so I
thing and make it my new system so I
thing and make it my new system so I can't really do that if I'm giving it
can't really do that if I'm giving it
can't really do that if I'm giving it away unfortunately it looks like the
away unfortunately it looks like the
away unfortunately it looks like the scammers didn't actually watch the video
scammers didn't actually watch the video
scammers didn't actually watch the video so it's it is what it is however if for
so it's it is what it is however if for
so it's it is what it is however if for whatever reason someone contacts you in
whatever reason someone contacts you in
whatever reason someone contacts you in the comments saying I'm giving a
the comments saying I'm giving a
the comments saying I'm giving a computer away for free they're lying and
computer away for free they're lying and
computer away for free they're lying and they're trying to steal your money so
they're trying to steal your money so
they're trying to steal your money so just let me know about it either leave
just let me know about it either leave
just let me know about it either leave me a comment on Twitter or say something
me a comment on Twitter or say something
me a comment on Twitter or say something in the comments of the video or you
in the comments of the video or you
in the comments of the video or you could also report it as well it would be
could also report it as well it would be
could also report it as well it would be helpful but anyway let's get on with the
helpful but anyway let's get on with the
helpful but anyway let's get on with the video so why do the Zen 5 ryzen's run so
video so why do the Zen 5 ryzen's run so
video so why do the Zen 5 ryzen's run so hot your first thought would be that the
hot your first thought would be that the
hot your first thought would be that the tiny cooler that it come comes with just
tiny cooler that it come comes with just
tiny cooler that it come comes with just isn't enough to keep it cool I mean
isn't enough to keep it cool I mean
isn't enough to keep it cool I mean that's what I thought but the truth is
that's what I thought but the truth is
that's what I thought but the truth is the cooler is not as much as fault as
the cooler is not as much as fault as
the cooler is not as much as fault as you might think the ryzen 57600 that we
you might think the ryzen 57600 that we
you might think the ryzen 57600 that we built in this system is around a 65 watt
built in this system is around a 65 watt
built in this system is around a 65 watt processor so the stock cooler should be
processor so the stock cooler should be
processor so the stock cooler should be able to keep it cool and believe it or
able to keep it cool and believe it or
able to keep it cool and believe it or not 85c is exactly where am AMD intended
not 85c is exactly where am AMD intended
not 85c is exactly where am AMD intended it to run at so that little stock cooler
it to run at so that little stock cooler
it to run at so that little stock cooler is in fact doing its job the reason 85c
is in fact doing its job the reason 85c
is in fact doing its job the reason 85c is important is because on the ryzen 7th
is important is because on the ryzen 7th
is important is because on the ryzen 7th gen processors 85c is TJ Maxx which is
gen processors 85c is TJ Maxx which is
gen processors 85c is TJ Maxx which is just a fancy way of saying the maximum
just a fancy way of saying the maximum
just a fancy way of saying the maximum thermal Junction it's the temperature
thermal Junction it's the temperature
thermal Junction it's the temperature threshold in which the CPU is allowed to
threshold in which the CPU is allowed to
threshold in which the CPU is allowed to hit in its boost algorithm so until the
hit in its boost algorithm so until the
hit in its boost algorithm so until the CPU hits that magic temperature
CPU hits that magic temperature
CPU hits that magic temperature threshold it's allowed to boost to its
threshold it's allowed to boost to its
threshold it's allowed to boost to its maximum boost clock which for the 7600
maximum boost clock which for the 7600
maximum boost clock which for the 7600 is 5.1 gahz so with this in mind
is 5.1 gahz so with this in mind
is 5.1 gahz so with this in mind increasing your cooling capacity isn't
increasing your cooling capacity isn't
increasing your cooling capacity isn't necessarily going to drop the
necessarily going to drop the
necessarily going to drop the processor's temperature I mean it's just
processor's temperature I mean it's just
processor's temperature I mean it's just going to give the processor more
going to give the processor more
going to give the processor more Headroom to boost which is exactly why
Headroom to boost which is exactly why
Headroom to boost which is exactly why we want to increase the cooling capacity
we want to increase the cooling capacity
we want to increase the cooling capacity in the first place so with that out of
in the first place so with that out of
in the first place so with that out of the way how is this little thing here
the way how is this little thing here
the way how is this little thing here going to help us with that well the
going to help us with that well the
going to help us with that well the concept is based on the Intel LGA 1700
concept is based on the Intel LGA 1700
concept is based on the Intel LGA 1700 these processors run hot and one of the
these processors run hot and one of the
these processors run hot and one of the reasons why is because of the socket
reasons why is because of the socket
reasons why is because of the socket design in fact it's because of the way
design in fact it's because of the way
design in fact it's because of the way LGA sockets work work in the first place
LGA sockets work work in the first place
LGA sockets work work in the first place the am4 socket was a PGA socket PGA
the am4 socket was a PGA socket PGA
the am4 socket was a PGA socket PGA stands for pin grid array all the pins
stands for pin grid array all the pins
stands for pin grid array all the pins were in the CPU itself and they made it
were in the CPU itself and they made it
were in the CPU itself and they made it up with the socket which was held down
up with the socket which was held down
up with the socket which was held down by the socket clamping down on all the
by the socket clamping down on all the
by the socket clamping down on all the pins on the CPU so the CPU was seated
pins on the CPU so the CPU was seated
pins on the CPU so the CPU was seated properly into the socket by essentially
properly into the socket by essentially
properly into the socket by essentially retaining all of the pins across the
retaining all of the pins across the
retaining all of the pins across the entire surface of the processor at least
entire surface of the processor at least
entire surface of the processor at least the underside of the processor now the
the underside of the processor now the
the underside of the processor now the am5 and the LGA 1700 use an LGA socket
am5 and the LGA 1700 use an LGA socket
am5 and the LGA 1700 use an LGA socket which stands for land grid array on
which stands for land grid array on
which stands for land grid array on these sockets the pins themselves are on
these sockets the pins themselves are on
these sockets the pins themselves are on the socket and they are retained through
the socket and they are retained through
the socket and they are retained through a retention bracket that just barely
a retention bracket that just barely
a retention bracket that just barely touches the edges of the processor to
touches the edges of the processor to
touches the edges of the processor to hold it down as you can see from this
hold it down as you can see from this
hold it down as you can see from this picture here the LGA 1700 and this one
picture here the LGA 1700 and this one
picture here the LGA 1700 and this one here of the am5 the retention bracket
here of the am5 the retention bracket
here of the am5 the retention bracket only comes in contact with the CPU on
only comes in contact with the CPU on
only comes in contact with the CPU on those little wings on the left and right
those little wings on the left and right
those little wings on the left and right hand side of the retention bracket so
hand side of the retention bracket so
hand side of the retention bracket so essentially what was happening to the
essentially what was happening to the
essentially what was happening to the LGA 1700 chips was because they were so
LGA 1700 chips was because they were so
LGA 1700 chips was because they were so long and the retention bracket only held
long and the retention bracket only held
long and the retention bracket only held the left and right hand side of the chip
the left and right hand side of the chip
the left and right hand side of the chip excessive temperatures would cause the
excessive temperatures would cause the
excessive temperatures would cause the IHS to actually warp and lose full
IHS to actually warp and lose full
IHS to actually warp and lose full contact with the cooler now this seems
contact with the cooler now this seems
contact with the cooler now this seems counterintuitive because you also have
counterintuitive because you also have
counterintuitive because you also have the cooler itself pushing down on the
the cooler itself pushing down on the
the cooler itself pushing down on the CPU but even with that Force the IH IHS
CPU but even with that Force the IH IHS
CPU but even with that Force the IH IHS on the Intel chips warps causing
on the Intel chips warps causing
on the Intel chips warps causing excessive temperatures so the solution
excessive temperatures so the solution
excessive temperatures so the solution to that was a retention frame similar to
to that was a retention frame similar to
to that was a retention frame similar to this one that applies pressure all the
this one that applies pressure all the
this one that applies pressure all the way around the surface of the processor
way around the surface of the processor
way around the surface of the processor stopping the IHS from warping and it
stopping the IHS from warping and it
stopping the IHS from warping and it significantly reduces temperatures so
significantly reduces temperatures so
significantly reduces temperatures so does the same concept apply to am5 I
does the same concept apply to am5 I
does the same concept apply to am5 I mean am5 uses a similar socket and is
mean am5 uses a similar socket and is
mean am5 uses a similar socket and is retained exactly the same as the Intel
retained exactly the same as the Intel
retained exactly the same as the Intel socket but in reality it's actually not
socket but in reality it's actually not
socket but in reality it's actually not the same you see the reason why the LGA
the same you see the reason why the LGA
the same you see the reason why the LGA 1700 benefits from a retention frame is
1700 benefits from a retention frame is
1700 benefits from a retention frame is because of the size of the chip itself
because of the size of the chip itself
because of the size of the chip itself it's a giant rectangle the ryzen chip
it's a giant rectangle the ryzen chip
it's a giant rectangle the ryzen chip isn't it's a traditional square and
isn't it's a traditional square and
isn't it's a traditional square and technically even though it uses the same
technically even though it uses the same
technically even though it uses the same retention method the overall percentage
retention method the overall percentage
retention method the overall percentage of the IHS being held down is much
of the IHS being held down is much
of the IHS being held down is much larger than the Intel socket and
larger than the Intel socket and
larger than the Intel socket and ironically if we put these pictures back
ironically if we put these pictures back
ironically if we put these pictures back up here you can see that the wings on
up here you can see that the wings on
up here you can see that the wings on the am5 socket are also much larger than
the am5 socket are also much larger than
the am5 socket are also much larger than the wings on the LGA 1700 so not only is
the wings on the LGA 1700 so not only is
the wings on the LGA 1700 so not only is the am5 a smaller chip but it has larger
the am5 a smaller chip but it has larger
the am5 a smaller chip but it has larger retention wings but they still make an
retention wings but they still make an
retention wings but they still make an am5 retention frame and it's only 15
am5 retention frame and it's only 15
am5 retention frame and it's only 15 bucks so I think it's worth at least
bucks so I think it's worth at least
bucks so I think it's worth at least testing it to see if it makes a
testing it to see if it makes a
testing it to see if it makes a difference so let's get this thing
difference so let's get this thing
difference so let's get this thing installed and see what benefit it gives
installed and see what benefit it gives
installed and see what benefit it gives us so first let's take a look at what
us so first let's take a look at what
us so first let's take a look at what this thing com comes with obviously you
this thing com comes with obviously you
this thing com comes with obviously you get the contact frame itself and if you
get the contact frame itself and if you
get the contact frame itself and if you go into the box here it comes with some
go into the box here it comes with some
go into the box here it comes with some thermal grease as well as all the screws
thermal grease as well as all the screws
thermal grease as well as all the screws that you need to install it now these
that you need to install it now these
that you need to install it now these screws are kind of important so don't
screws are kind of important so don't
screws are kind of important so don't lose them they're extremely specific for
lose them they're extremely specific for
lose them they're extremely specific for this and they're exactly the same size
this and they're exactly the same size
this and they're exactly the same size as the screws that hold down the
as the screws that hold down the
as the screws that hold down the original contact frame or the original
original contact frame or the original
original contact frame or the original frame mechanism that comes on the am5
frame mechanism that comes on the am5
frame mechanism that comes on the am5 socket so you should use the same tool
socket so you should use the same tool
socket so you should use the same tool tool in order to remove it now it does
tool in order to remove it now it does
tool in order to remove it now it does come with a tool comes with an allen key
come with a tool comes with an allen key
come with a tool comes with an allen key however I highly recommend you get
however I highly recommend you get
however I highly recommend you get yourself a T20 Torx driver because it
yourself a T20 Torx driver because it
yourself a T20 Torx driver because it will make the whole process a whole lot
will make the whole process a whole lot
will make the whole process a whole lot easier so let's get this thing actually
easier so let's get this thing actually
easier so let's get this thing actually installed in the system and to start
installed in the system and to start
installed in the system and to start with we're going to go ahead and take
with we're going to go ahead and take
with we're going to go ahead and take the side panel off move some of this
the side panel off move some of this
the side panel off move some of this stuff out of our way so we can set the
stuff out of our way so we can set the
stuff out of our way so we can set the computer itself down now depending on
computer itself down now depending on
computer itself down now depending on your system you don't necessarily have
your system you don't necessarily have
your system you don't necessarily have to pull the GPU or anything out I'm not
to pull the GPU or anything out I'm not
to pull the GPU or anything out I'm not going to on this one I'm just going to
going to on this one I'm just going to
going to on this one I'm just going to pull it apart the way that it is to
pull it apart the way that it is to
pull it apart the way that it is to start out with all we're going to do is
start out with all we're going to do is
start out with all we're going to do is we're going to take the CPU Cooler and
we're going to take the CPU Cooler and
we're going to take the CPU Cooler and the original frame out and then replace
the original frame out and then replace
the original frame out and then replace it with the new one and then repaste the
it with the new one and then repaste the
it with the new one and then repaste the CPU while we're doing it so to do that
CPU while we're doing it so to do that
CPU while we're doing it so to do that we're just going to go ahead and unplug
it we're going to take the screws from
it we're going to take the screws from
it we're going to take the screws from the cooler itself off and then when you
the cooler itself off and then when you
the cooler itself off and then when you take these off I would recommend loosing
take these off I would recommend loosing
take these off I would recommend loosing the loosening these a little bit at a
the loosening these a little bit at a
the loosening these a little bit at a time don't just loosen them all at once
time don't just loosen them all at once
time don't just loosen them all at once turn three or four turns on each screw
turn three or four turns on each screw
turn three or four turns on each screw so you can kind of take the cooler off
so you can kind of take the cooler off
so you can kind of take the cooler off evenly across the
evenly across the
evenly across the entire surface if you if you pull it off
entire surface if you if you pull it off
entire surface if you if you pull it off you don't want it to pop uneven because
you don't want it to pop uneven because
you don't want it to pop uneven because you could put
you could put
you could put some uneven pressure onto the CPU socket
some uneven pressure onto the CPU socket
some uneven pressure onto the CPU socket itself and it could cause damage it
itself and it could cause damage it
itself and it could cause damage it probably won't but it's still a good
probably won't but it's still a good
probably won't but it's still a good practice to do it this way this is the
practice to do it this way this is the
practice to do it this way this is the way that I've always done it so if
way that I've always done it so if
way that I've always done it so if anything else it's just kind of habit at
anything else it's just kind of habit at
anything else it's just kind of habit at this point so once we get it off we can
this point so once we get it off we can
this point so once we get it off we can see that we have heat sink Compound on
see that we have heat sink Compound on
see that we have heat sink Compound on it now and what we're going to need to
it now and what we're going to need to
it now and what we're going to need to do is go ahead and clean the heat sink
do is go ahead and clean the heat sink
do is go ahead and clean the heat sink compound off get yourself a nice rag to
compound off get yourself a nice rag to
compound off get yourself a nice rag to clean this off with I have one that I
clean this off with I have one that I
clean this off with I have one that I use for compound as you can see it's
use for compound as you can see it's
use for compound as you can see it's been used for compound a couple of times
been used for compound a couple of times
been used for compound a couple of times and it's a good idea to have a somewhat
and it's a good idea to have a somewhat
and it's a good idea to have a somewhat clean rag because you don't want to
clean rag because you don't want to
clean rag because you don't want to actually transfer compound from your rag
actually transfer compound from your rag
actually transfer compound from your rag to the CPU and I change mine out every
to the CPU and I change mine out every
to the CPU and I change mine out every once in a while but it is nice to have a
once in a while but it is nice to have a
once in a while but it is nice to have a clean one and then add you can see the
clean one and then add you can see the
clean one and then add you can see the Gen 5 CPUs are kind of hard to get heat
Gen 5 CPUs are kind of hard to get heat
Gen 5 CPUs are kind of hard to get heat sink compound off of because of all
sink compound off of because of all
sink compound off of because of all their little machined edges and stuff
their little machined edges and stuff
their little machined edges and stuff like that but it's not too
like that but it's not too
like that but it's not too bad so once you get this cleaned up the
bad so once you get this cleaned up the
bad so once you get this cleaned up the next thing that you want to do is go
next thing that you want to do is go
next thing that you want to do is go ahead
ahead
ahead and pull the old bracket at least open
and pull the old bracket at least open
and pull the old bracket at least open the old bracket up I wouldn't unscrew
the old bracket up I wouldn't unscrew
the old bracket up I wouldn't unscrew the old bracket with it tightened down
the old bracket with it tightened down
the old bracket with it tightened down onto the CPU I would loosen it all up
onto the CPU I would loosen it all up
onto the CPU I would loosen it all up first and then you ENT eventually just
first and then you ENT eventually just
first and then you ENT eventually just unloosen these screws now the original
unloosen these screws now the original
unloosen these screws now the original bracket itself are captive screws so
bracket itself are captive screws so
bracket itself are captive screws so you'll have to loosen them all first and
you'll have to loosen them all first and
you'll have to loosen them all first and then take them all out if that makes any
then take them all out if that makes any
then take them all out if that makes any sense it they're captive so they won't
sense it they're captive so they won't
sense it they're captive so they won't actually allow you to completely loosen
actually allow you to completely loosen
actually allow you to completely loosen each one while the rest of them are
each one while the rest of them are
each one while the rest of them are tight if that makes sense but once you
tight if that makes sense but once you
tight if that makes sense but once you loosen it up you should be able just to
loosen it up you should be able just to
loosen it up you should be able just to lift up and out the old contact bracket
lift up and out the old contact bracket
lift up and out the old contact bracket just like that and like I said these
just like that and like I said these
just like that and like I said these screws are aptive so they don't fall out
screws are aptive so they don't fall out
screws are aptive so they don't fall out so you can go ahead and close this
so you can go ahead and close this
so you can go ahead and close this bracket up just like this and then save
bracket up just like this and then save
bracket up just like this and then save it for if you ever want to put it back
it for if you ever want to put it back
it for if you ever want to put it back into the machine so to put the new one
into the machine so to put the new one
into the machine so to put the new one on you just take it and set it over the
on you just take it and set it over the
on you just take it and set it over the top of where the old one came off and
top of where the old one came off and
top of where the old one came off and you do that just like this you just set
you do that just like this you just set
you do that just like this you just set it down right over the CPU being careful
it down right over the CPU being careful
it down right over the CPU being careful not to move the CPU out of the socket
not to move the CPU out of the socket
not to move the CPU out of the socket because you really don't want to bend
because you really don't want to bend
because you really don't want to bend pins on an LGA socket it's not a great
pins on an LGA socket it's not a great
pins on an LGA socket it's not a great idea and then with the new screws just
idea and then with the new screws just
idea and then with the new screws just go ahead and drop the new screws into
go ahead and drop the new screws into
go ahead and drop the new screws into the hole at least this is how I do
the hole at least this is how I do
the hole at least this is how I do it and believe me I've had this thing
it and believe me I've had this thing
it and believe me I've had this thing installed and uninstalled several times
installed and uninstalled several times
installed and uninstalled several times during the testing of this to see how
during the testing of this to see how
during the testing of this to see how well it
well it
well it works and essentially what I'll do is
works and essentially what I'll do is
works and essentially what I'll do is set all the screws in first and then
set all the screws in first and then
set all the screws in first and then tighten them all down
tighten them all down
tighten them all down individually with all along you want to
individually with all along you want to
individually with all along you want to make
make
make sure that you don't let the CPU slip out
sure that you don't let the CPU slip out
sure that you don't let the CPU slip out of the
of the
of the socket and these things don't have to be
socket and these things don't have to be
socket and these things don't have to be like ridiculous ly
like ridiculous ly
like ridiculous ly tight just snug is
tight just snug is
tight just snug is fine and at this point I'm going to wipe
fine and at this point I'm going to wipe
fine and at this point I'm going to wipe it down real quick again just to make
it down real quick again just to make
it down real quick again just to make sure there's no more Compound on it and
sure there's no more Compound on it and
sure there's no more Compound on it and I'm going to use the compound that comes
I'm going to use the compound that comes
I'm going to use the compound that comes with it but typically I use thermal
with it but typically I use thermal
with it but typically I use thermal Grizzly but this is here and it's free
Grizzly but this is here and it's free
Grizzly but this is here and it's free so we might as well use it so I'm going
so we might as well use it so I'm going
so we might as well use it so I'm going to put some compound on this now people
to put some compound on this now people
to put some compound on this now people watching this you might say well I'm not
watching this you might say well I'm not
watching this you might say well I'm not doing it right but you do it the way you
doing it right but you do it the way you
doing it right but you do it the way you want to do it and I'm going to do it the
want to do it and I'm going to do it the
want to do it and I'm going to do it the way I want to do it
and then once you get the compound on
and then once you get the compound on
and then once you get the compound on just go ahead and lower the CPU Cooler
just go ahead and lower the CPU Cooler
just go ahead and lower the CPU Cooler back into place making sure you line up
back into place making sure you line up
back into place making sure you line up all the
all the
all the screws and then just like the way you
screws and then just like the way you
screws and then just like the way you removed it I would tighten it a few
removed it I would tighten it a few
removed it I would tighten it a few screws at a time I usually go three and
screws at a time I usually go three and
screws at a time I usually go three and go in a rotating pattern around the
go in a rotating pattern around the
go in a rotating pattern around the cooler all right once you get it screwed
cooler all right once you get it screwed
cooler all right once you get it screwed down go ahead and replace the wire for
down go ahead and replace the wire for
down go ahead and replace the wire for the CPU Cooler and there you go so my
the CPU Cooler and there you go so my
the CPU Cooler and there you go so my first comment that I have on this
first comment that I have on this
first comment that I have on this retention frame is it definitely looks a
retention frame is it definitely looks a
retention frame is it definitely looks a lot cooler than the stock am5 frame
lot cooler than the stock am5 frame
lot cooler than the stock am5 frame retention system you know it does look
retention system you know it does look
retention system you know it does look good and if it wasn't for the fact that
good and if it wasn't for the fact that
good and if it wasn't for the fact that the thing is going to be completely
the thing is going to be completely
the thing is going to be completely covered by your CPU Cooler and it would
covered by your CPU Cooler and it would
covered by your CPU Cooler and it would be worth the 15 bucks just for the looks
be worth the 15 bucks just for the looks
be worth the 15 bucks just for the looks alone however once you put your cooler
alone however once you put your cooler
alone however once you put your cooler on it's practically invisible so it
on it's practically invisible so it
on it's practically invisible so it better perform as good as it looks
better perform as good as it looks
better perform as good as it looks so my first impression after doing all
so my first impression after doing all
so my first impression after doing all the testing was that this thing is not
the testing was that this thing is not
the testing was that this thing is not even worth $15 however once digging
even worth $15 however once digging
even worth $15 however once digging through the data a little bit my opinion
through the data a little bit my opinion
through the data a little bit my opinion kind of changed now keep in mind all of
kind of changed now keep in mind all of
kind of changed now keep in mind all of this testing was done with the stock AMD
this testing was done with the stock AMD
this testing was done with the stock AMD cooler so any benefit that we see is
cooler so any benefit that we see is
cooler so any benefit that we see is going to be hindered by the stock cooler
going to be hindered by the stock cooler
going to be hindered by the stock cooler capacity so as you can see here there's
capacity so as you can see here there's
capacity so as you can see here there's a temperature graph that I plotted
a temperature graph that I plotted
a temperature graph that I plotted through the entire run of cinebench R23
through the entire run of cinebench R23
through the entire run of cinebench R23 and aside from a little temperature
and aside from a little temperature
and aside from a little temperature variation at the beginning and the end
variation at the beginning and the end
variation at the beginning and the end of the run it didn't affect the
of the run it didn't affect the
of the run it didn't affect the temperature at all in fact it was the
temperature at all in fact it was the
temperature at all in fact it was the same across the board in fact the
same across the board in fact the
same across the board in fact the average temperature with the stock
average temperature with the stock
average temperature with the stock retention system just this little silver
retention system just this little silver
retention system just this little silver one right here was 82.4 C and with the
one right here was 82.4 C and with the
one right here was 82.4 C and with the secure frame retention bracket we got an
secure frame retention bracket we got an
secure frame retention bracket we got an average temperature of 82.5 C and keep
average temperature of 82.5 C and keep
average temperature of 82.5 C and keep in mind that these numbers were also
in mind that these numbers were also
in mind that these numbers were also rounded so the temperature variation was
rounded so the temperature variation was
rounded so the temperature variation was a little less than
a little less than
a little less than 0.1% so that's it case closed this thing
0.1% so that's it case closed this thing
0.1% so that's it case closed this thing is a piece of junk and not worth your
is a piece of junk and not worth your
is a piece of junk and not worth your money but wait isn't there another thing
money but wait isn't there another thing
money but wait isn't there another thing that we're forgetting about in fact
that we're forgetting about in fact
that we're forgetting about in fact there is remember earlier when I
there is remember earlier when I
there is remember earlier when I explained how the Boost algorithm worked
explained how the Boost algorithm worked
explained how the Boost algorithm worked on the am5 processors it will boost your
on the am5 processors it will boost your
on the am5 processors it will boost your CPU until it hits TJ Maxx and then it
CPU until it hits TJ Maxx and then it
CPU until it hits TJ Maxx and then it will start throttling down the Boost
will start throttling down the Boost
will start throttling down the Boost once it hits that thermal threshold well
once it hits that thermal threshold well
once it hits that thermal threshold well we hit that thermal threshold several
we hit that thermal threshold several
we hit that thermal threshold several times through each Benchmark run so when
times through each Benchmark run so when
times through each Benchmark run so when we look at the frequencies that the CPU
we look at the frequencies that the CPU
we look at the frequencies that the CPU ran at through those Benchmark runs you
ran at through those Benchmark runs you
ran at through those Benchmark runs you can see here on the graph that as the
can see here on the graph that as the
can see here on the graph that as the processor heated up the frequency
processor heated up the frequency
processor heated up the frequency tapered down just like you would expect
tapered down just like you would expect
tapered down just like you would expect it to however if you look down at the
it to however if you look down at the
it to however if you look down at the end of The Run you'll notice that the
end of The Run you'll notice that the
end of The Run you'll notice that the red line stayed just a little bit higher
red line stayed just a little bit higher
red line stayed just a little bit higher than the Blue Line indicating that the
than the Blue Line indicating that the
than the Blue Line indicating that the secure frame was able to control its
secure frame was able to control its
secure frame was able to control its temperature just enough to give it a
temperature just enough to give it a
temperature just enough to give it a little bit more boost boost and it was
little bit more boost boost and it was
little bit more boost boost and it was definitely just a little bit because our
definitely just a little bit because our
definitely just a little bit because our average boost clock with the stock
average boost clock with the stock
average boost clock with the stock retention system was
retention system was
retention system was 46835 MHz and with the secure frame
46835 MHz and with the secure frame
46835 MHz and with the secure frame retention bracket we got an average
retention bracket we got an average
retention bracket we got an average frequency of
frequency of
frequency of 47122 MHz that's an increase of 28.7 MHz
47122 MHz that's an increase of 28.7 MHz
47122 MHz that's an increase of 28.7 MHz in the average while not much I've
in the average while not much I've
in the average while not much I've actually owned computers before that had
actually owned computers before that had
actually owned computers before that had a lower clock speed than that difference
a lower clock speed than that difference
a lower clock speed than that difference so it was a benefit also you can see on
so it was a benefit also you can see on
so it was a benefit also you can see on this graph right here that the very
this graph right here that the very
this graph right here that the very beginning of the Run we had a spike that
beginning of the Run we had a spike that
beginning of the Run we had a spike that hit 4.9 GHz but it only stayed there for
hit 4.9 GHz but it only stayed there for
hit 4.9 GHz but it only stayed there for one cycle and then dropped down to the
one cycle and then dropped down to the
one cycle and then dropped down to the average you can also see that the secure
average you can also see that the secure
average you can also see that the secure frame retention bracket started at a
frame retention bracket started at a
frame retention bracket started at a higher frequency and ended at a higher
higher frequency and ended at a higher
higher frequency and ended at a higher frequency than the stock retention
frequency than the stock retention
frequency than the stock retention system as well so before I actually sat
system as well so before I actually sat
system as well so before I actually sat down and crunched the numbers I was
down and crunched the numbers I was
down and crunched the numbers I was going to tell you not to buy buy this
going to tell you not to buy buy this
going to tell you not to buy buy this thing I was going to tell you not to buy
thing I was going to tell you not to buy
thing I was going to tell you not to buy it because it was nothing more than a
it because it was nothing more than a
it because it was nothing more than a way to capitalize on the benefit that
way to capitalize on the benefit that
way to capitalize on the benefit that the Intel retention frame performed
the Intel retention frame performed
the Intel retention frame performed because quite honestly if you have an
because quite honestly if you have an
because quite honestly if you have an Intel system you should have a retention
Intel system you should have a retention
Intel system you should have a retention frame for it because it absolutely makes
frame for it because it absolutely makes
frame for it because it absolutely makes a difference in temperatures on the
a difference in temperatures on the
a difference in temperatures on the Intel systems however this one doesn't
Intel systems however this one doesn't
Intel systems however this one doesn't give you the same benefit that the Intel
give you the same benefit that the Intel
give you the same benefit that the Intel one does it still does give you a
one does it still does give you a
one does it still does give you a benefit though in fact I think it's a
benefit though in fact I think it's a
benefit though in fact I think it's a reasonable decent benefit for 15 bucks I
reasonable decent benefit for 15 bucks I
reasonable decent benefit for 15 bucks I also believe that this thing would help
also believe that this thing would help
also believe that this thing would help even more if we had a better cooling
even more if we had a better cooling
even more if we had a better cooling Solution on the system than the stock
Solution on the system than the stock
Solution on the system than the stock cooler because as you may have noticed
cooler because as you may have noticed
cooler because as you may have noticed with the stock cooler we never hit our
with the stock cooler we never hit our
with the stock cooler we never hit our maximum boost clocks that this CPU is
maximum boost clocks that this CPU is
maximum boost clocks that this CPU is capable of in fact we averaged
capable of in fact we averaged
capable of in fact we averaged considerably lower than the maximum
considerably lower than the maximum
considerably lower than the maximum boost clock however that's going to
boost clock however that's going to
boost clock however that's going to change soon so stay tuned I'm not done
change soon so stay tuned I'm not done
change soon so stay tuned I'm not done trying to cool this thing down quite yet
trying to cool this thing down quite yet
trying to cool this thing down quite yet and I also played around with Precision
and I also played around with Precision
and I also played around with Precision boost Overdrive a little and I was able
boost Overdrive a little and I was able
boost Overdrive a little and I was able to get closer to the maximum boost clock
to get closer to the maximum boost clock
to get closer to the maximum boost clock however I'm going to save that for a
however I'm going to save that for a
however I'm going to save that for a different video another thing that I
different video another thing that I
different video another thing that I wanted to touch on real quick though is
wanted to touch on real quick though is
wanted to touch on real quick though is that I heard while listening to other
that I heard while listening to other
that I heard while listening to other reviews of this thing when I was
reviews of this thing when I was
reviews of this thing when I was planning this review that one of the
planning this review that one of the
planning this review that one of the reviewers said that the biggest benefit
reviewers said that the biggest benefit
reviewers said that the biggest benefit to this was that it helped not make as
to this was that it helped not make as
to this was that it helped not make as much of a mess when using thermal paste
much of a mess when using thermal paste
much of a mess when using thermal paste because it's so tightly machined around
because it's so tightly machined around
because it's so tightly machined around the unusual shaped IHS of the am5
the unusual shaped IHS of the am5
the unusual shaped IHS of the am5 processor that it helped keep the CPU a
processor that it helped keep the CPU a
processor that it helped keep the CPU a little cleaner I thought that was the
little cleaner I thought that was the
little cleaner I thought that was the stupidest benefit until I actually
stupidest benefit until I actually
stupidest benefit until I actually started testing it and had to repeatedly
started testing it and had to repeatedly
started testing it and had to repeatedly go back and forth between this Frame and
go back and forth between this Frame and
go back and forth between this Frame and the secure frame in repasting it every
the secure frame in repasting it every
the secure frame in repasting it every time and I got to admit the other
time and I got to admit the other
time and I got to admit the other reviewer was right this thing does a lot
reviewer was right this thing does a lot
reviewer was right this thing does a lot better at keeping the mess at Bay when
better at keeping the mess at Bay when
better at keeping the mess at Bay when it comes to repasting the am5 CPU so for
it comes to repasting the am5 CPU so for
it comes to repasting the am5 CPU so for people who have spent any time at all
people who have spent any time at all
people who have spent any time at all cleaning off the thermal compound from
cleaning off the thermal compound from
cleaning off the thermal compound from between those little Nubs on the am5
between those little Nubs on the am5
between those little Nubs on the am5 processor you know exactly what I'm
processor you know exactly what I'm
processor you know exactly what I'm talking about but with that said
talking about but with that said
talking about but with that said ultimately I recommend using the secure
ultimately I recommend using the secure
ultimately I recommend using the secure bracket retention frame not only is it a
bracket retention frame not only is it a
bracket retention frame not only is it a much cleaner look than the stock
much cleaner look than the stock
much cleaner look than the stock retention system but it does give a
retention system but it does give a
retention system but it does give a measurable performance difference and
measurable performance difference and
measurable performance difference and let's be honest $15 is one of those
let's be honest $15 is one of those
let's be honest $15 is one of those spontaneous Amazon buys that you order
spontaneous Amazon buys that you order
spontaneous Amazon buys that you order in the middle of the night when you
in the middle of the night when you
in the middle of the night when you can't sleep in fact I'm pretty sure
can't sleep in fact I'm pretty sure
can't sleep in fact I'm pretty sure that's when I bought mine but if you
that's when I bought mine but if you
that's when I bought mine but if you really want to drop your CPU temperature
really want to drop your CPU temperature
really want to drop your CPU temperature then you really should try undervolting
then you really should try undervolting
then you really should try undervolting you can get some considerable
you can get some considerable
you can get some considerable performance and temperature gains by
performance and temperature gains by
performance and temperature gains by simply lowering your cpu's voltage if
simply lowering your cpu's voltage if
simply lowering your cpu's voltage if you'd like to try that out then check
you'd like to try that out then check
you'd like to try that out then check out this video here not only does it
out this video here not only does it
out this video here not only does it really work but it's free I may also
really work but it's free I may also
really work but it's free I may also revisit that subject with this CPU here
revisit that subject with this CPU here
revisit that subject with this CPU here so stay tuned for that as always you
so stay tuned for that as always you
so stay tuned for that as always you guys have a great day
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