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so last week we installed an aiio into
so last week we installed an aiio into
so last week we installed an aiio into our $800 gaming system we found that we
our $800 gaming system we found that we
our $800 gaming system we found that we solved our temperature issue only to run
solved our temperature issue only to run
solved our temperature issue only to run into a power issue so today we're going
into a power issue so today we're going
into a power issue so today we're going to fix it by increasing the power limit
to fix it by increasing the power limit
to fix it by increasing the power limit and we're going to try to cool it down a
and we're going to try to cool it down a
and we're going to try to cool it down a little bit more by undervolting it so
little bit more by undervolting it so
little bit more by undervolting it so hopefully we should get the best of both
hopefully we should get the best of both
hopefully we should get the best of both worlds stay
tuned when we built our $800 gaming PC
tuned when we built our $800 gaming PC
tuned when we built our $800 gaming PC it performed impeccably however I was a
it performed impeccably however I was a
it performed impeccably however I was a little concerned about the temp future
little concerned about the temp future
little concerned about the temp future and that kind of led us down this rabbit
and that kind of led us down this rabbit
and that kind of led us down this rabbit hole that brought us to where we are
hole that brought us to where we are
hole that brought us to where we are today unfortunately because of that it's
today unfortunately because of that it's
today unfortunately because of that it's no longer an $800 gaming PC with the
no longer an $800 gaming PC with the
no longer an $800 gaming PC with the aiio that we installed it's looking more
aiio that we installed it's looking more
aiio that we installed it's looking more like a $900 gaming PC now so today
like a $900 gaming PC now so today
like a $900 gaming PC now so today instead of throwing more money at it
instead of throwing more money at it
instead of throwing more money at it we're going to try to improve its
we're going to try to improve its
we're going to try to improve its performance and its temperature by
performance and its temperature by
performance and its temperature by undervolting it we're also going to play
undervolting it we're also going to play
undervolting it we're also going to play around with an overclock but first I got
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10 now on with the video so there are
10 now on with the video so there are people that will tell you that nothing
people that will tell you that nothing
people that will tell you that nothing in life is free for the most part that's
in life is free for the most part that's
in life is free for the most part that's a true statement however today I'm going
a true statement however today I'm going
a true statement however today I'm going to show you that some things actually
to show you that some things actually
to show you that some things actually can be free of course that's as long as
can be free of course that's as long as
can be free of course that's as long as you don't count your own labor so I
you don't count your own labor so I
you don't count your own labor so I guess in that case it wouldn't be free
guess in that case it wouldn't be free
guess in that case it wouldn't be free so let's jump on the computer and see
so let's jump on the computer and see
so let's jump on the computer and see what we can do so here we are on our
what we can do so here we are on our
what we can do so here we are on our system and the first thing I'm going to
system and the first thing I'm going to
system and the first thing I'm going to do is we're going to go ahead and fire
do is we're going to go ahead and fire
do is we're going to go ahead and fire up ryzen master real quick and while
up ryzen master real quick and while
up ryzen master real quick and while ryzen master is open I think we're going
ryzen master is open I think we're going
ryzen master is open I think we're going to run a cinebench run real quick so I
to run a cinebench run real quick so I
to run a cinebench run real quick so I can show you kind of the problem that
can show you kind of the problem that
can show you kind of the problem that we're trying to solve here so it'll just
we're trying to solve here so it'll just
we're trying to solve here so it'll just take a second here to fire up cin bench
take a second here to fire up cin bench
take a second here to fire up cin bench a very short second though cuz this
a very short second though cuz this
a very short second though cuz this system is really quick so the first
system is really quick so the first
system is really quick so the first thing I want to do here is just run a
thing I want to do here is just run a
thing I want to do here is just run a multicore test real quick and then we'll
multicore test real quick and then we'll
multicore test real quick and then we'll open up ryzen master and you'll see
open up ryzen master and you'll see
open up ryzen master and you'll see right here that our total socket power
right here that our total socket power
right here that our total socket power is 100% And as of right here you can see
is 100% And as of right here you can see
is 100% And as of right here you can see that our temperature is solved we are
that our temperature is solved we are
that our temperature is solved we are under the limit we're under the 85c
under the limit we're under the 85c
under the limit we're under the 85c limit we're sitting at around 70c right
limit we're sitting at around 70c right
limit we're sitting at around 70c right now but we're limited to 4.9 GHz because
now but we're limited to 4.9 GHz because
now but we're limited to 4.9 GHz because well because we're out of power right
well because we're out of power right
well because we're out of power right now so if we were to run a single core
now so if we were to run a single core
now so if we were to run a single core test then I'm sure we were would be able
test then I'm sure we were would be able
test then I'm sure we were would be able to get the max speed of 5.1 GHz however
to get the max speed of 5.1 GHz however
to get the max speed of 5.1 GHz however at this point we're stuck at 4.9 so
at this point we're stuck at 4.9 so
at this point we're stuck at 4.9 so let's go ahead and stop this run real
let's go ahead and stop this run real
let's go ahead and stop this run real quick here and let's get into see if we
quick here and let's get into see if we
quick here and let's get into see if we can fix this right here so the first
can fix this right here so the first
can fix this right here so the first thing we want to do is I'm going to go
thing we want to do is I'm going to go
thing we want to do is I'm going to go ahead and jump down into curve Optimizer
ahead and jump down into curve Optimizer
ahead and jump down into curve Optimizer right here and then we're going to turn
right here and then we're going to turn
right here and then we're going to turn on Precision boost overdrive so what is
on Precision boost overdrive so what is
on Precision boost overdrive so what is precision boost overdrive in short it's
precision boost overdrive in short it's
precision boost overdrive in short it's just a fancy term for the process that
just a fancy term for the process that
just a fancy term for the process that allows you to increase the power limits
allows you to increase the power limits
allows you to increase the power limits for your CPU you see by default your CPU
for your CPU you see by default your CPU
for your CPU you see by default your CPU has certain limits to make it operate
has certain limits to make it operate
has certain limits to make it operate within its specific power draw range by
within its specific power draw range by
within its specific power draw range by increasing these limits you're
increasing these limits you're
increasing these limits you're essentially giving the processor more
essentially giving the processor more
essentially giving the processor more power as long as you stay within your
power as long as you stay within your
power as long as you stay within your thermal limit the CPU will boost to its
thermal limit the CPU will boost to its
thermal limit the CPU will boost to its maximum boost clock now the three
maximum boost clock now the three
maximum boost clock now the three specific limits that Precision boost
specific limits that Precision boost
specific limits that Precision boost overdrive allows you to increase are PPT
overdrive allows you to increase are PPT
overdrive allows you to increase are PPT TDC and EDC PPT stands for the package
TDC and EDC PPT stands for the package
TDC and EDC PPT stands for the package power tracking this is the total amount
power tracking this is the total amount
power tracking this is the total amount of Watts your processor is allowed to
of Watts your processor is allowed to
of Watts your processor is allowed to consume TDC stands for the thermal
consume TDC stands for the thermal
consume TDC stands for the thermal design current this is the amount of
design current this is the amount of
design current this is the amount of sustained current draw in amps that your
sustained current draw in amps that your
sustained current draw in amps that your processor is allowed to consume now
processor is allowed to consume now
processor is allowed to consume now anyone who has studied Electronics knows
anyone who has studied Electronics knows
anyone who has studied Electronics knows that watts equals volts multiplied by
that watts equals volts multiplied by
that watts equals volts multiplied by amps so the amount of Watts that the
amps so the amount of Watts that the
amps so the amount of Watts that the processor consumes is determined by the
processor consumes is determined by the
processor consumes is determined by the voltage of the processor multiplied by
voltage of the processor multiplied by
voltage of the processor multiplied by the TDC as long as the resulting wattage
the TDC as long as the resulting wattage
the TDC as long as the resulting wattage is equal or lower than the PPT then
is equal or lower than the PPT then
is equal or lower than the PPT then everything is cool and your CPU should
everything is cool and your CPU should
everything is cool and your CPU should continue to boost until it hits its
continue to boost until it hits its
continue to boost until it hits its thermal limit now the last one is EDC
thermal limit now the last one is EDC
thermal limit now the last one is EDC this one stands for electrical design
this one stands for electrical design
this one stands for electrical design current this is the limit that
current this is the limit that
current this is the limit that determines the amount of current that
determines the amount of current that
determines the amount of current that can Spike for short periods of time this
can Spike for short periods of time this
can Spike for short periods of time this is not the sustained current like the
is not the sustained current like the
is not the sustained current like the TDC however even with the EDC the limit
TDC however even with the EDC the limit
TDC however even with the EDC the limit maxed out your Watts still can't exceed
maxed out your Watts still can't exceed
maxed out your Watts still can't exceed your PPT now hopefully that was a good
your PPT now hopefully that was a good
your PPT now hopefully that was a good explanation so let's complete this by
explanation so let's complete this by
explanation so let's complete this by throwing everything I just said out the
throwing everything I just said out the
throwing everything I just said out the window and maxing them all out and see
window and maxing them all out and see
window and maxing them all out and see what happens
what happens
what happens okay yeah just like I said we're just
okay yeah just like I said we're just
okay yeah just like I said we're just going to leave all these things at Max
going to leave all these things at Max
going to leave all these things at Max so right now by default they're already
so right now by default they're already
so right now by default they're already set to Max so essentially by maxing
set to Max so essentially by maxing
set to Max so essentially by maxing these things out you're giving the CPU
these things out you're giving the CPU
these things out you're giving the CPU all the power they could possibly take
all the power they could possibly take
all the power they could possibly take now you don't have to worry about this
now you don't have to worry about this
now you don't have to worry about this damaging the processor because there's
damaging the processor because there's
damaging the processor because there's still limits in place like your thermal
still limits in place like your thermal
still limits in place like your thermal limit that won't allow the processor
limit that won't allow the processor
limit that won't allow the processor just to go out of control and you know
just to go out of control and you know
just to go out of control and you know this isn't an Intel processor so it's
this isn't an Intel processor so it's
this isn't an Intel processor so it's still going to keep your voltage under
still going to keep your voltage under
still going to keep your voltage under control but before we actually apply
control but before we actually apply
control but before we actually apply this I want want to go ahead and enable
this I want want to go ahead and enable
this I want want to go ahead and enable the curve Optimizer and that's going to
the curve Optimizer and that's going to
the curve Optimizer and that's going to be the next thing that we're going to do
be the next thing that we're going to do
be the next thing that we're going to do right here so the curve Optimizer by
right here so the curve Optimizer by
right here so the curve Optimizer by default is turned off when you turn on
default is turned off when you turn on
default is turned off when you turn on Precision boost overdrive so the way I'm
Precision boost overdrive so the way I'm
Precision boost overdrive so the way I'm going to able this is through all cores
going to able this is through all cores
going to able this is through all cores however you can do a per core and you
however you can do a per core and you
however you can do a per core and you can will be able to adjust the values
can will be able to adjust the values
can will be able to adjust the values for every single core but for us we're
for every single core but for us we're
for every single core but for us we're going to do all cores right now and I'm
going to do all cores right now and I'm
going to do all cores right now and I'm also going to change the auto offset to
also going to change the auto offset to
also going to change the auto offset to a manual offset and this will allow me
a manual offset and this will allow me
a manual offset and this will allow me to change the curve Optimizer offset for
to change the curve Optimizer offset for
to change the curve Optimizer offset for all the cores this is is essentially
all the cores this is is essentially
all the cores this is is essentially going to be our undervolt now we can do
going to be our undervolt now we can do
going to be our undervolt now we can do this per core and we can set a value for
this per core and we can set a value for
this per core and we can set a value for every single core individually but that
every single core individually but that
every single core individually but that takes a really long time and I'm just
takes a really long time and I'm just
takes a really long time and I'm just going to go to all cores now what you
going to go to all cores now what you
going to go to all cores now what you could do is if you set this to Auto you
could do is if you set this to Auto you
could do is if you set this to Auto you can hit start optimizing and it'll go
can hit start optimizing and it'll go
can hit start optimizing and it'll go through the process of optimizing all of
through the process of optimizing all of
through the process of optimizing all of the different cores to find out what
the different cores to find out what
the different cores to find out what offset they can actually take however I
offset they can actually take however I
offset they can actually take however I have found that not only is this
have found that not only is this
have found that not only is this relatively inaccurate but it also takes
relatively inaccurate but it also takes
relatively inaccurate but it also takes an incredible amount of time so I like
an incredible amount of time so I like
an incredible amount of time so I like to go to manual and just set an offset
to go to manual and just set an offset
to go to manual and just set an offset and see how the system runs now as you
and see how the system runs now as you
and see how the system runs now as you probably know I've already tested mine
probably know I've already tested mine
probably know I've already tested mine out and I can take the minimum of A50
out and I can take the minimum of A50
out and I can take the minimum of A50 offset on this processor which I was
offset on this processor which I was
offset on this processor which I was actually kind of surprised by but we're
actually kind of surprised by but we're
actually kind of surprised by but we're going to go ahead and leave it at that
going to go ahead and leave it at that
going to go ahead and leave it at that and we're going to go ahead and apply
and we're going to go ahead and apply
and we're going to go ahead and apply this right now so to do that all we have
this right now so to do that all we have
this right now so to do that all we have to do is just save the profile and then
to do is just save the profile and then
to do is just save the profile and then hit apply now when we hit apply it's
hit apply now when we hit apply it's
hit apply now when we hit apply it's going to want to restart the systems
going to want to restart the systems
going to want to restart the systems just in case you have anything open in
just in case you have anything open in
just in case you have anything open in the background so once we're done we're
the background so once we're done we're
the background so once we're done we're going to go ahead and hit restart now
going to go ahead and hit restart now
going to go ahead and hit restart now and hit okay now the curve Optimizer is
and hit okay now the curve Optimizer is
and hit okay now the curve Optimizer is one that I never had really played with
one that I never had really played with
one that I never had really played with before because it always took way too
before because it always took way too
before because it always took way too long for the computer to figure it out
long for the computer to figure it out
long for the computer to figure it out now if you set the curve Optimizer to
now if you set the curve Optimizer to
now if you set the curve Optimizer to automatic offset then it will test every
automatic offset then it will test every
automatic offset then it will test every single core to see what offset it's
single core to see what offset it's
single core to see what offset it's capable of running at if you do this on
capable of running at if you do this on
capable of running at if you do this on a per core basis it can take hours
a per core basis it can take hours
a per core basis it can take hours however you don't have to do that in
however you don't have to do that in
however you don't have to do that in fact I found it to be a lot easier just
fact I found it to be a lot easier just
fact I found it to be a lot easier just just to set it up with a manual offset
just to set it up with a manual offset
just to set it up with a manual offset not only does this take a lot less time
not only does this take a lot less time
not only does this take a lot less time but typically the automatic offset will
but typically the automatic offset will
but typically the automatic offset will give you an invalid offset that will end
give you an invalid offset that will end
give you an invalid offset that will end up having to be troubleshooted manually
up having to be troubleshooted manually
up having to be troubleshooted manually anyway now the way curve Optimizer works
anyway now the way curve Optimizer works
anyway now the way curve Optimizer works is kind of like an undervolt let me
is kind of like an undervolt let me
is kind of like an undervolt let me explain so as your processor boosts it
explain so as your processor boosts it
explain so as your processor boosts it increases its vcore voltage based on
increases its vcore voltage based on
increases its vcore voltage based on what frequency the processor happens to
what frequency the processor happens to
what frequency the processor happens to be running at so at this absolute Peak
be running at so at this absolute Peak
be running at so at this absolute Peak boost it might be running running at
boost it might be running running at
boost it might be running running at 1.27 molts but when your processor is
1.27 molts but when your processor is
1.27 molts but when your processor is running at 2 GHz it could be running at
running at 2 GHz it could be running at
running at 2 GHz it could be running at point8 molts now the way the curve
point8 molts now the way the curve
point8 molts now the way the curve Optimizer works is it uses an offset
Optimizer works is it uses an offset
Optimizer works is it uses an offset value that can be either positive or
value that can be either positive or
value that can be either positive or negative to move the entire voltage
negative to move the entire voltage
negative to move the entire voltage curve now these offset values aren't
curve now these offset values aren't
curve now these offset values aren't directly related to molts you know like
directly related to molts you know like
directly related to molts you know like undervolting is rather a negative - one
undervolting is rather a negative - one
undervolting is rather a negative - one offset will move the voltage curve by
offset will move the voltage curve by
offset will move the voltage curve by 0.006 molts this means that when you hit
0.006 molts this means that when you hit
0.006 molts this means that when you hit your maximum boost clock your vcor
your maximum boost clock your vcor
your maximum boost clock your vcor voltage will actually be 0.6 molts lower
voltage will actually be 0.6 molts lower
voltage will actually be 0.6 molts lower than it would have been without the
than it would have been without the
than it would have been without the offset now if you change the offset
offset now if you change the offset
offset now if you change the offset value to a positive one then what you
value to a positive one then what you
value to a positive one then what you hit your maximum boost clock your VC cor
hit your maximum boost clock your VC cor
hit your maximum boost clock your VC cor voltage will be 0.6 Mill volts higher
voltage will be 0.6 Mill volts higher
voltage will be 0.6 Mill volts higher than it would have been and the entire
than it would have been and the entire
than it would have been and the entire voltage curve is moved in the same
voltage curve is moved in the same
voltage curve is moved in the same amount now with all that said there's
amount now with all that said there's
amount now with all that said there's really no practical reason why you would
really no practical reason why you would
really no practical reason why you would want to use a positive offset value
want to use a positive offset value
want to use a positive offset value that's just going to increase your
that's just going to increase your
that's just going to increase your temperature and not allow your processor
temperature and not allow your processor
temperature and not allow your processor to boost as high as it would have so if
to boost as high as it would have so if
to boost as high as it would have so if you're finding that you're having to go
you're finding that you're having to go
you're finding that you're having to go to posit positive offsets then there's
to posit positive offsets then there's
to posit positive offsets then there's probably something wrong with your
probably something wrong with your
probably something wrong with your processor now unlike undervolting the
processor now unlike undervolting the
processor now unlike undervolting the way that the curve Optimizer works is it
way that the curve Optimizer works is it
way that the curve Optimizer works is it allows you to adjust the voltage curve
allows you to adjust the voltage curve
allows you to adjust the voltage curve for each specific core individually so
for each specific core individually so
for each specific core individually so let's say out of a six core processor
let's say out of a six core processor
let's say out of a six core processor you have two really strong cores and
you have two really strong cores and
you have two really strong cores and four that are not so strong you could
four that are not so strong you could
four that are not so strong you could set a lower curve on the two strong
set a lower curve on the two strong
set a lower curve on the two strong cores and a higher curve on the four
cores and a higher curve on the four
cores and a higher curve on the four weak ones also curve Optimizer allows
weak ones also curve Optimizer allows
weak ones also curve Optimizer allows you to change the curve per CCX as well
you to change the curve per CCX as well
you to change the curve per CCX as well now we're dealing with a ryzen
now we're dealing with a ryzen
now we're dealing with a ryzen 57600 so we only have the single CCX but
57600 so we only have the single CCX but
57600 so we only have the single CCX but if you have a ryzen that came with two
if you have a ryzen that came with two
if you have a ryzen that came with two CCX then you would be able to adjust the
CCX then you would be able to adjust the
CCX then you would be able to adjust the voltage curve for each CCX individually
voltage curve for each CCX individually
voltage curve for each CCX individually so if you had one that would handle a
so if you had one that would handle a
so if you had one that would handle a lower voltage then you could benefit
lower voltage then you could benefit
lower voltage then you could benefit from it now let's jump back on the
from it now let's jump back on the
from it now let's jump back on the computer and test our new curve
computer and test our new curve
computer and test our new curve Optimizer
Optimizer
Optimizer offset okay so every time you run ryzen
offset okay so every time you run ryzen
offset okay so every time you run ryzen master or you change the settings in
master or you change the settings in
master or you change the settings in ryzen master when you restart it's
ryzen master when you restart it's
ryzen master when you restart it's automatically going to open up ryzen
automatically going to open up ryzen
automatically going to open up ryzen Master again now the reason why it does
Master again now the reason why it does
Master again now the reason why it does this is because it wants to know if the
this is because it wants to know if the
this is because it wants to know if the settings you changed were reliable if
settings you changed were reliable if
settings you changed were reliable if they weren't then it obviously wouldn't
they weren't then it obviously wouldn't
they weren't then it obviously wouldn't open the program up again and then if
open the program up again and then if
open the program up again and then if you did end up rebooting it wouldn't
you did end up rebooting it wouldn't
you did end up rebooting it wouldn't save those settings it would go back to
save those settings it would go back to
save those settings it would go back to its default settings so now that we got
its default settings so now that we got
its default settings so now that we got this fired up I want to go ahead and run
this fired up I want to go ahead and run
this fired up I want to go ahead and run cin bench again real quick just to kind
cin bench again real quick just to kind
cin bench again real quick just to kind of compare it to what we did originally
of compare it to what we did originally
of compare it to what we did originally when we first started this is remember
when we first started this is remember
when we first started this is remember before our power limit was spiked the
before our power limit was spiked the
before our power limit was spiked the whole time and we weren't able to hit
whole time and we weren't able to hit
whole time and we weren't able to hit our maximum boost speed so we're going
our maximum boost speed so we're going
our maximum boost speed so we're going to see if we can now so to do that all
to see if we can now so to do that all
to see if we can now so to do that all we're going to do is start a multicore
we're going to do is start a multicore
we're going to do is start a multicore test and we're going to jump back into
test and we're going to jump back into
test and we're going to jump back into ryzen Master here and we're going to let
ryzen Master here and we're going to let
ryzen Master here and we're going to let it go and as you can see we are
it go and as you can see we are
it go and as you can see we are definitely not within our power limit
definitely not within our power limit
definitely not within our power limit and we're over our boost speed we're
and we're over our boost speed we're
and we're over our boost speed we're sitting at 5130 and it's sitting it's
sitting at 5130 and it's sitting it's
sitting at 5130 and it's sitting it's essentially not moving at all it's
essentially not moving at all it's
essentially not moving at all it's staying there and the reason why is
staying there and the reason why is
staying there and the reason why is because we're well within all of our
because we're well within all of our
because we're well within all of our other specs our temperature limit is way
other specs our temperature limit is way
other specs our temperature limit is way lower than it needs to be in fact if you
lower than it needs to be in fact if you
lower than it needs to be in fact if you notice we were sitting in the low 70s
notice we were sitting in the low 70s
notice we were sitting in the low 70s when before we touched anything and now
when before we touched anything and now
when before we touched anything and now we're sitting in the low 60s so that's a
we're sitting in the low 60s so that's a
we're sitting in the low 60s so that's a pretty good benefit right there so we
pretty good benefit right there so we
pretty good benefit right there so we essentially lost like 10° C on our
essentially lost like 10° C on our
essentially lost like 10° C on our temperature but we're also not power
temperature but we're also not power
temperature but we're also not power limited it at all we're sitting at 7% of
limited it at all we're sitting at 7% of
limited it at all we're sitting at 7% of our power limit so the next thing that I
our power limit so the next thing that I
our power limit so the next thing that I want to do is set up an automatic
want to do is set up an automatic
want to do is set up an automatic overclock essentially all this is going
overclock essentially all this is going
overclock essentially all this is going to do is change the maximum boost clock
to do is change the maximum boost clock
to do is change the maximum boost clock ryzen Master lets you set this to 200
ryzen Master lets you set this to 200
ryzen Master lets you set this to 200 mahz over your cpu's factory maximum
mahz over your cpu's factory maximum
mahz over your cpu's factory maximum boost clock so let's jump back on the
boost clock so let's jump back on the
boost clock so let's jump back on the system and let's get it set up okay so
system and let's get it set up okay so
system and let's get it set up okay so we're going to go ahead and close C
we're going to go ahead and close C
we're going to go ahead and close C bench here CU we're not going to need it
bench here CU we're not going to need it
bench here CU we're not going to need it anymore and we're going to go ahead and
anymore and we're going to go ahead and
anymore and we're going to go ahead and jump over to the curve Optimizer again
jump over to the curve Optimizer again
jump over to the curve Optimizer again now from curve Optimizer the way that we
now from curve Optimizer the way that we
now from curve Optimizer the way that we set up our Auto overclocking is
set up our Auto overclocking is
set up our Auto overclocking is essentially just by clicking on the tab
essentially just by clicking on the tab
essentially just by clicking on the tab Auto overclocking now all of our other
Auto overclocking now all of our other
Auto overclocking now all of our other settings for our curve Optimizer and our
settings for our curve Optimizer and our
settings for our curve Optimizer and our Precision boost overdrive should remain
Precision boost overdrive should remain
Precision boost overdrive should remain the same however it's going to give us
the same however it's going to give us
the same however it's going to give us this one new box right here that allows
this one new box right here that allows
this one new box right here that allows us to change what our boost override Is
us to change what our boost override Is
us to change what our boost override Is Now by default it's going to be 100 MHz
Now by default it's going to be 100 MHz
Now by default it's going to be 100 MHz however we want more we're going to go
however we want more we're going to go
however we want more we're going to go all the way to 200 and then once you set
all the way to 200 and then once you set
all the way to 200 and then once you set that you essentially just apply it and
that you essentially just apply it and
that you essentially just apply it and it restarts the system and it should be
it restarts the system and it should be
it restarts the system and it should be similar like it did before as soon as
similar like it did before as soon as
similar like it did before as soon as you hit okay it'll go ahead and reboot
you hit okay it'll go ahead and reboot
you hit okay it'll go ahead and reboot the computer so now that we have
the computer so now that we have
the computer so now that we have Precision boost overdrive configured we
Precision boost overdrive configured we
Precision boost overdrive configured we need to see just how well this thing
need to see just how well this thing
need to see just how well this thing performs just like last week I'm doing
performs just like last week I'm doing
performs just like last week I'm doing all this testing in cinebench R23 now as
all this testing in cinebench R23 now as
all this testing in cinebench R23 now as you can see from this graph enabling
you can see from this graph enabling
you can see from this graph enabling Precision boost overdrive alone
Precision boost overdrive alone
Precision boost overdrive alone increased our temperature now that makes
increased our temperature now that makes
increased our temperature now that makes sense because we're essentially took
sense because we're essentially took
sense because we're essentially took away all of its power limits
away all of its power limits
away all of its power limits so with the water cooling by itself we
so with the water cooling by itself we
so with the water cooling by itself we averaged around 77 C but by enabling
averaged around 77 C but by enabling
averaged around 77 C but by enabling Precision boost overdrive we averaged
Precision boost overdrive we averaged
Precision boost overdrive we averaged around 83c now if we switch over and
around 83c now if we switch over and
around 83c now if we switch over and look at the frequencies that we were
look at the frequencies that we were
look at the frequencies that we were able to hit we didn't get much for
able to hit we didn't get much for
able to hit we didn't get much for eliminating our power limits I mean we
eliminating our power limits I mean we
eliminating our power limits I mean we got a little bit more but not enough to
got a little bit more but not enough to
got a little bit more but not enough to justify the increase in temperature at
justify the increase in temperature at
justify the increase in temperature at all with the factory settings we
all with the factory settings we
all with the factory settings we averaged
averaged
averaged 4,971 MHz and with Precision boost
4,971 MHz and with Precision boost
4,971 MHz and with Precision boost overdrive we Aver averaged
overdrive we Aver averaged
overdrive we Aver averaged 4,986 mahz that gave us a whopping 15
4,986 mahz that gave us a whopping 15
4,986 mahz that gave us a whopping 15 MHz that cost us a whopping 6° increase
MHz that cost us a whopping 6° increase
MHz that cost us a whopping 6° increase in our average temperature now the
in our average temperature now the
in our average temperature now the reason why this happened is because
reason why this happened is because
reason why this happened is because while we did get rid of the power limit
while we did get rid of the power limit
while we did get rid of the power limit that was holding us back we ran right
that was holding us back we ran right
that was holding us back we ran right into the thermal limit again so in this
into the thermal limit again so in this
into the thermal limit again so in this case enabling Precision boost overdrive
case enabling Precision boost overdrive
case enabling Precision boost overdrive just wasn't worth it however all that
just wasn't worth it however all that
just wasn't worth it however all that changes once we enabled the curve
changes once we enabled the curve
changes once we enabled the curve optimize
optimize
optimize because as you can see here our
because as you can see here our
because as you can see here our temperature got a huge improvement from
temperature got a huge improvement from
temperature got a huge improvement from the curve Optimizer now granted I'm
the curve Optimizer now granted I'm
the curve Optimizer now granted I'm running a -50 offset so if you can't get
running a -50 offset so if you can't get
running a -50 offset so if you can't get that high of a negative offset then your
that high of a negative offset then your
that high of a negative offset then your results are going to vary of course
results are going to vary of course
results are going to vary of course however with the Curve Optimizer enabled
however with the Curve Optimizer enabled
however with the Curve Optimizer enabled we got an average temperature of 64 C
we got an average temperature of 64 C
we got an average temperature of 64 C that's a 13° drop in our average
that's a 13° drop in our average
that's a 13° drop in our average temperature from the factory settings
temperature from the factory settings
temperature from the factory settings and a 19° drop from just having
and a 19° drop from just having
and a 19° drop from just having Precision boost overdrive enabled alone
Precision boost overdrive enabled alone
Precision boost overdrive enabled alone so let's flip over to this graph and see
so let's flip over to this graph and see
so let's flip over to this graph and see what this gives us for our frequencies
what this gives us for our frequencies
what this gives us for our frequencies as you can see we finally hit our
as you can see we finally hit our
as you can see we finally hit our advertised boost speed on all cores and
advertised boost speed on all cores and
advertised boost speed on all cores and it was extremely stable as you saw in
it was extremely stable as you saw in
it was extremely stable as you saw in the example in fact the average boost
the example in fact the average boost
the example in fact the average boost clock was
clock was
clock was 5,140 MHz that's 40 MHz over the
5,140 MHz that's 40 MHz over the
5,140 MHz that's 40 MHz over the advertised boost speed of 5.1 GHz and
advertised boost speed of 5.1 GHz and
advertised boost speed of 5.1 GHz and it's stuck there through through the
it's stuck there through through the
it's stuck there through through the entire run now if we flip over to our
entire run now if we flip over to our
entire run now if we flip over to our power usage this is also a pretty
power usage this is also a pretty
power usage this is also a pretty telling graph so as you can see right
telling graph so as you can see right
telling graph so as you can see right off the bat that our stock configuration
off the bat that our stock configuration
off the bat that our stock configuration we were definitely power limited in the
we were definitely power limited in the
we were definitely power limited in the CPU stock configuration we averaged
CPU stock configuration we averaged
CPU stock configuration we averaged around 90 Watts but we saw that when we
around 90 Watts but we saw that when we
around 90 Watts but we saw that when we started in ryzen master then if you look
started in ryzen master then if you look
started in ryzen master then if you look at the red line for just Precision boost
at the red line for just Precision boost
at the red line for just Precision boost overdrive being enabled it makes sense
overdrive being enabled it makes sense
overdrive being enabled it makes sense that our power usage would go up up
that our power usage would go up up
that our power usage would go up up because we eliminated all power limits
because we eliminated all power limits
because we eliminated all power limits this caused our CPU to average around 96
this caused our CPU to average around 96
this caused our CPU to average around 96 Watts but this unfortunately pushed us
Watts but this unfortunately pushed us
Watts but this unfortunately pushed us to our thermal limit causing us to not
to our thermal limit causing us to not
to our thermal limit causing us to not be able to take advantage of more boost
be able to take advantage of more boost
be able to take advantage of more boost clocks however once we turned on the
clocks however once we turned on the
clocks however once we turned on the curve Optimizer as you can see from the
curve Optimizer as you can see from the
curve Optimizer as you can see from the graph our average power usage for the
graph our average power usage for the
graph our average power usage for the total CPU power dropped to 66 Watts this
total CPU power dropped to 66 Watts this
total CPU power dropped to 66 Watts this explains why we were able to hit and
explains why we were able to hit and
explains why we were able to hit and maintain our maximum boost clock and do
maintain our maximum boost clock and do
maintain our maximum boost clock and do all of that at a considerably lower
all of that at a considerably lower
all of that at a considerably lower temperature so now that we can see that
temperature so now that we can see that
temperature so now that we can see that the curve Optimizer definitely works
the curve Optimizer definitely works
the curve Optimizer definitely works what results did we get from our
what results did we get from our
what results did we get from our overclock well let's go to the graph as
overclock well let's go to the graph as
overclock well let's go to the graph as you can see here the yellow line
you can see here the yellow line
you can see here the yellow line indicates our temperature from our
indicates our temperature from our
indicates our temperature from our overclock we were pretty much all over
overclock we were pretty much all over
overclock we were pretty much all over the scale with it peaking at over 80°
the scale with it peaking at over 80°
the scale with it peaking at over 80° and dropping down as low as
and dropping down as low as
and dropping down as low as 73° this gave us an average temperature
73° this gave us an average temperature
73° this gave us an average temperature about 74° across the entire run now when
about 74° across the entire run now when
about 74° across the entire run now when we switch to this graph for our
we switch to this graph for our
we switch to this graph for our frequencies you can see that we were
frequencies you can see that we were
frequencies you can see that we were able to boost the 200 MHz that we had
able to boost the 200 MHz that we had
able to boost the 200 MHz that we had set without any problem in fact we got
set without any problem in fact we got
set without any problem in fact we got an average boost clock of across all
an average boost clock of across all
an average boost clock of across all cores of
cores of
cores of 5,333 MHz those are 7600 X boost speeds
5,333 MHz those are 7600 X boost speeds
5,333 MHz those are 7600 X boost speeds and it was stable across the entire run
and it was stable across the entire run
and it was stable across the entire run so that 5.3 GHz was a sustained boost
so that 5.3 GHz was a sustained boost
so that 5.3 GHz was a sustained boost clock now when we switch over to power
clock now when we switch over to power
clock now when we switch over to power usage with our overclock you can see
usage with our overclock you can see
usage with our overclock you can see that the purple line our power usage was
that the purple line our power usage was
that the purple line our power usage was definitely more than with the Curve
definitely more than with the Curve
definitely more than with the Curve Optimizer enabled however it was still
Optimizer enabled however it was still
Optimizer enabled however it was still lower than the stock configuration we
lower than the stock configuration we
lower than the stock configuration we averaged about 83 watts of total CPU
averaged about 83 watts of total CPU
averaged about 83 watts of total CPU power across the entire run while the
power across the entire run while the
power across the entire run while the factory configuration averaged about 89
factory configuration averaged about 89
factory configuration averaged about 89 Watts so for the most part I'm actually
Watts so for the most part I'm actually
Watts so for the most part I'm actually really pleased with the results here
really pleased with the results here
really pleased with the results here however these settings were only tested
however these settings were only tested
however these settings were only tested in cinebench I also let Heaven run for a
in cinebench I also let Heaven run for a
in cinebench I also let Heaven run for a couple hours just to see how stable the
couple hours just to see how stable the
couple hours just to see how stable the 50 offset was in the curve Optimizer and
50 offset was in the curve Optimizer and
50 offset was in the curve Optimizer and I didn't have a single crash so as of
I didn't have a single crash so as of
I didn't have a single crash so as of right now I assume the system is solid
right now I assume the system is solid
right now I assume the system is solid however when it comes to the curve
however when it comes to the curve
however when it comes to the curve Optimizer and using a relatively High
Optimizer and using a relatively High
Optimizer and using a relatively High offset there's a chance that you could
offset there's a chance that you could
offset there's a chance that you could see instability at lower clock speeds
see instability at lower clock speeds
see instability at lower clock speeds remember when we talked before about how
remember when we talked before about how
remember when we talked before about how the curve Optimizer moves the entire
the curve Optimizer moves the entire
the curve Optimizer moves the entire voltage curve well the lower voltage may
voltage curve well the lower voltage may
voltage curve well the lower voltage may be adequate to run the processor at its
be adequate to run the processor at its
be adequate to run the processor at its top boost speed but when you it may
top boost speed but when you it may
top boost speed but when you it may become unstable when it's running at
become unstable when it's running at
become unstable when it's running at lower speeds like 1 or two GHz so the
lower speeds like 1 or two GHz so the
lower speeds like 1 or two GHz so the only way to really test the curve
only way to really test the curve
only way to really test the curve Optimizer is by using the system
Optimizer is by using the system
Optimizer is by using the system ultimately you shouldn't have
ultimately you shouldn't have
ultimately you shouldn't have instability with Modern Hardware if your
instability with Modern Hardware if your
instability with Modern Hardware if your computer is crashing periodically or
computer is crashing periodically or
computer is crashing periodically or you're getting random blue screens every
you're getting random blue screens every
you're getting random blue screens every once in a while then the problem very
once in a while then the problem very
once in a while then the problem very well could be your voltage curve if you
well could be your voltage curve if you
well could be your voltage curve if you set it down too far so if that happens
set it down too far so if that happens
set it down too far so if that happens you just need to raise the curve
you just need to raise the curve
you just need to raise the curve Optimizer offset and your system should
Optimizer offset and your system should
Optimizer offset and your system should become stable personally I'm going to
become stable personally I'm going to
become stable personally I'm going to leave mine at-50 if I can get away with
leave mine at-50 if I can get away with
leave mine at-50 if I can get away with it also if you want you can go to a per
it also if you want you can go to a per
it also if you want you can go to a per core offset with the Curve Optimizer and
core offset with the Curve Optimizer and
core offset with the Curve Optimizer and try to figure out which core
try to figure out which core
try to figure out which core specifically is having instability with
specifically is having instability with
specifically is having instability with the higher offsets that going to take a
the higher offsets that going to take a
the higher offsets that going to take a lot longer to figure out but it's
lot longer to figure out but it's
lot longer to figure out but it's possible that you could have higher
possible that you could have higher
possible that you could have higher offsets with some of your better cores
offsets with some of your better cores
offsets with some of your better cores and lower offsets with some of your
and lower offsets with some of your
and lower offsets with some of your weaker cores so it might be worth the
weaker cores so it might be worth the
weaker cores so it might be worth the time to invest to figure it out but if
time to invest to figure it out but if
time to invest to figure it out but if you do that write it down just in case
you do that write it down just in case
you do that write it down just in case you need to reinstall ryzen Master
you need to reinstall ryzen Master
you need to reinstall ryzen Master someday you know however the one setting
someday you know however the one setting
someday you know however the one setting that I do think I'm going to turn off is
that I do think I'm going to turn off is
that I do think I'm going to turn off is the auto overclock and just let mine
the auto overclock and just let mine
the auto overclock and just let mine boost to 5.1 GHz personally I kind of of
boost to 5.1 GHz personally I kind of of
boost to 5.1 GHz personally I kind of of like the lower temperatures and the
like the lower temperatures and the
like the lower temperatures and the chances of my -50 offset being stable
chances of my -50 offset being stable
chances of my -50 offset being stable are more likely at 5.1 than they are at
are more likely at 5.1 than they are at
are more likely at 5.1 than they are at 5.3 but with that said if you like
5.3 but with that said if you like
5.3 but with that said if you like getting something for nothing then check
getting something for nothing then check
getting something for nothing then check out this video where I show you how to
out this video where I show you how to
out this video where I show you how to set up Windows 11 as a gaming system
set up Windows 11 as a gaming system
set up Windows 11 as a gaming system there's lots of tweaks in that video to
there's lots of tweaks in that video to
there's lots of tweaks in that video to help you get even more performance out
help you get even more performance out
help you get even more performance out of your hardware for free I also did the
of your hardware for free I also did the
of your hardware for free I also did the same video for Windows 10 and I'll leave
same video for Windows 10 and I'll leave
same video for Windows 10 and I'll leave a link to that in the Des description
a link to that in the Des description
a link to that in the Des description below as always you guys have a great
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