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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,760 --> 00:00:04,590 ♪ slow, suspenseful music ♪ 2 00:00:04,590 --> 00:00:07,840 [distant siren wailing] 3 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:09,800 [indistinct police radio chatter] 4 00:00:14,130 --> 00:00:16,050 [Barbara] I miss her. 5 00:00:19,010 --> 00:00:20,470 It hurts. 6 00:00:20,470 --> 00:00:22,220 I see Necole every night. 7 00:00:22,220 --> 00:00:25,090 I pray every night, Necole. 8 00:00:25,090 --> 00:00:27,380 I pray that whoever did this to you, 9 00:00:27,390 --> 00:00:29,100 God have mercy on 'em. 10 00:00:29,090 --> 00:00:31,590 To this day, it's been eight years. 11 00:00:31,590 --> 00:00:34,630 It'll be eight years, and nothing's been done. 12 00:00:39,300 --> 00:00:42,670 [Andrew] Kristen was a lovable child. 13 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:46,060 She got murdered when she was 21. 14 00:00:48,260 --> 00:00:51,260 Eleven years gone by and nothing. 15 00:00:51,260 --> 00:00:53,130 Something don't add up. 16 00:00:53,130 --> 00:00:56,130 I mean, why eight girls killed 17 00:00:56,130 --> 00:00:58,760 in a span of four years 18 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:00,630 and nothing? 19 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:02,770 On none of 'em. 20 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:05,590 [woman] I don't think that the police trying 21 00:01:05,590 --> 00:01:08,220 to find out what really happened to those eight women. 22 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:11,130 They're not trying to... 23 00:01:11,130 --> 00:01:12,970 to find the answer. 24 00:01:12,970 --> 00:01:15,420 [Nick] They act like it doesn't matter 25 00:01:15,430 --> 00:01:18,680 'cause it wasn't their sister, wasn't their daughter. 26 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:20,810 Whoever's all involved, they all got to feel untouchable 27 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:24,130 right now because nobody's doing nothing about it. 28 00:01:24,130 --> 00:01:27,090 With Loretta, 29 00:01:27,090 --> 00:01:29,420 nobody's ever been charged. 30 00:01:29,430 --> 00:01:31,770 [woman] They have never arrested anyone 31 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:34,380 in Whitnei's death. Never. 32 00:01:34,390 --> 00:01:36,600 I keep praying for that day. 33 00:01:36,590 --> 00:01:37,880 They get up every day, and they go on 34 00:01:37,890 --> 00:01:39,230 like it's just another day. 35 00:01:39,220 --> 00:01:43,170 But, you see, every day for us 36 00:01:43,180 --> 00:01:45,810 is like that day that we lost 37 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:47,880 our child. 38 00:01:47,890 --> 00:01:48,890 Every day is like that. 39 00:01:53,390 --> 00:01:54,810 Thirteen years. 40 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:57,880 We've got nothing. 41 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:03,220 Why? 42 00:02:19,890 --> 00:02:21,730 ♪ tense, dramatic music ♪ 43 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:23,840 ♪♪♪ 44 00:02:26,090 --> 00:02:29,130 [Campbell] Jennings is an odd place. 45 00:02:29,130 --> 00:02:31,630 You hear these really outlandish theories 46 00:02:31,640 --> 00:02:33,430 that, as soon as you're hearing them, you think, 47 00:02:33,430 --> 00:02:35,890 "Well, this can't be true. This just doesn't make any sense." 48 00:02:35,890 --> 00:02:37,980 And then they check out. 49 00:02:39,260 --> 00:02:41,340 You don't know 50 00:02:41,340 --> 00:02:44,510 what to trust of your own judgment pretty quickly. 51 00:02:46,260 --> 00:02:48,220 [Scott] There is something about Jennings 52 00:02:48,220 --> 00:02:51,590 that obviously doesn't exist in other places. 53 00:02:51,590 --> 00:02:53,260 People will tell me, 54 00:02:53,260 --> 00:02:55,010 "Well, it's just happenstance. We just... 55 00:02:55,010 --> 00:02:56,590 That was just the luck of the draw." 56 00:02:56,590 --> 00:02:57,720 [scoffs] 57 00:02:57,720 --> 00:02:59,670 I-I can't swallow that. 58 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:02,890 You can't have eight murders that happen, 59 00:03:02,890 --> 00:03:05,060 one of which under the eye 60 00:03:05,050 --> 00:03:07,470 of the FBI while they're in town, 61 00:03:07,470 --> 00:03:11,010 without something being fundamentally flawed 62 00:03:11,010 --> 00:03:13,840 about the situation that's in Jennings. 63 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:20,970 [Ethan] The years of these eight homicides going unsolved 64 00:03:20,970 --> 00:03:25,130 raise significant questions about law enforcement 65 00:03:25,130 --> 00:03:28,220 and what they knew. 66 00:03:29,090 --> 00:03:32,420 You look at the Boudreaux Inn. 67 00:03:32,430 --> 00:03:34,810 In the Jeff Davis 8 era, 68 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:38,220 the Boudreaux Inn was the place in town to go 69 00:03:38,220 --> 00:03:39,880 for sex and drugs. 70 00:03:39,890 --> 00:03:41,480 And everybody knew it. 71 00:03:41,470 --> 00:03:46,260 It seems impossible to believe 72 00:03:46,260 --> 00:03:50,920 that the Jennings police or the sheriff's office 73 00:03:50,930 --> 00:03:52,770 were not aware that this was going on. 74 00:03:54,430 --> 00:03:57,560 So many years after the first homicide, 75 00:03:57,550 --> 00:04:01,880 what was still keeping these cases from being solved? 76 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:08,260 By 2011, 77 00:04:08,260 --> 00:04:12,590 Ricky Edwards was facing a lot of criticism, 78 00:04:12,590 --> 00:04:15,090 even from the parish elites, 79 00:04:15,090 --> 00:04:18,090 about his handling of the Jeff Davis 8 case. 80 00:04:18,090 --> 00:04:21,470 The years of bad publicity 81 00:04:21,470 --> 00:04:23,630 had taken a toll, 82 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:27,770 and it was finally the end for Ricky Edwards 83 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:30,300 as Jeff Davis Parish sheriff. 84 00:04:30,300 --> 00:04:33,130 ♪ tense, sinister music ♪ 85 00:04:33,130 --> 00:04:35,880 There is a sheriff's election. 86 00:04:36,970 --> 00:04:39,920 A man named Ivy Woods, 87 00:04:39,930 --> 00:04:41,980 who's with the Louisiana State Police, 88 00:04:41,970 --> 00:04:44,050 runs for sheriff. 89 00:04:44,050 --> 00:04:45,590 As soon as I take the office of sheriff, 90 00:04:45,590 --> 00:04:48,300 I plan to go into... to the records 91 00:04:48,300 --> 00:04:50,800 and see what's all done in investigations 92 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:52,300 and keep the ongoing task force 93 00:04:52,300 --> 00:04:56,090 working on the investigation on these murders. 94 00:04:56,090 --> 00:04:58,970 [Ethan] Woods campaigned specifically on a promise 95 00:04:58,970 --> 00:05:02,590 to dedicate resources 96 00:05:02,590 --> 00:05:05,050 to the Jeff Davis 8 case 97 00:05:05,050 --> 00:05:07,130 and to bring justice to the case. 98 00:05:07,130 --> 00:05:08,590 [man] ...as sheriff, Jefferson Davis Parish, 99 00:05:08,590 --> 00:05:09,800 state of Louisiana, 100 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:11,920 according to the best of your ability 101 00:05:11,930 --> 00:05:13,020 and understanding, so help you God? 102 00:05:13,010 --> 00:05:14,630 -I do. -[applause] 103 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:17,020 [Sarah] I thought Ivy Woods 104 00:05:17,010 --> 00:05:19,170 would've busted this open. 105 00:05:19,180 --> 00:05:21,560 That was his big thing. 106 00:05:21,550 --> 00:05:23,670 We're gonna bring new people in, you know, 107 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:27,180 we're gonna let new cops come in and look at these cases. 108 00:05:27,180 --> 00:05:31,390 Maybe we overseen something, and they'll pick it up. 109 00:05:31,390 --> 00:05:34,850 But you still haven't heard nothing. 110 00:05:34,840 --> 00:05:37,130 He hasn't done nothing, either. 111 00:05:39,340 --> 00:05:41,170 [Ivey] My boss, Ivy Woods, 112 00:05:41,180 --> 00:05:44,180 and the investigators that we have on this case, 113 00:05:44,180 --> 00:05:48,350 wanted nothing more than to solve one or all. 114 00:05:48,340 --> 00:05:51,470 That's been one of the-the biggest hurdles, 115 00:05:51,470 --> 00:05:54,630 uh, is getting people to want to talk to us. 116 00:05:56,050 --> 00:05:57,510 I think there was a black cloud 117 00:05:57,510 --> 00:06:00,510 over the task force and the investigators 118 00:06:00,510 --> 00:06:03,550 and the former sheriff's administration. 119 00:06:03,550 --> 00:06:05,970 People felt that they couldn't trust 'em. 120 00:06:05,970 --> 00:06:10,720 They would not talk to 'em and not give 'em information. 121 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:14,010 It hampered the investigators to be able to do their job 122 00:06:14,010 --> 00:06:18,220 because people didn't want to talk to 'em. 123 00:06:22,090 --> 00:06:25,550 [Ethan] The single most disturbing aspect 124 00:06:25,550 --> 00:06:28,380 of the case, investigatively, is that, 125 00:06:28,390 --> 00:06:32,020 contrary to the law enforcement narrative 126 00:06:32,010 --> 00:06:34,970 that they don't really have anything, 127 00:06:34,970 --> 00:06:36,550 they've got quite a lot. 128 00:06:36,550 --> 00:06:40,090 There are shockingly concrete statements 129 00:06:40,090 --> 00:06:43,090 from witnesses 130 00:06:43,090 --> 00:06:46,050 who have firsthand knowledge 131 00:06:46,050 --> 00:06:48,170 of the homicides. 132 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:57,760 [Richard] I ended up in a-a rehab in Logansport, Louisiana. 133 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:00,090 I went there to try to get help to get sober. 134 00:07:00,090 --> 00:07:02,090 Get clean off the dr-- uh, the crack cocaine. 135 00:07:02,090 --> 00:07:03,670 While I was there, 136 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:07,350 Frankie Richard shows up there in a, in a-- coming to rehab. 137 00:07:07,340 --> 00:07:10,300 At that time, I kind of thought Frankie was really sincere 138 00:07:10,300 --> 00:07:12,470 about trying to get help. 139 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:16,590 Frankie was in charge of the laundry, 140 00:07:16,590 --> 00:07:18,380 so he had a laundry room and he had a little coffeepot 141 00:07:18,390 --> 00:07:19,810 and everything set up in there, 142 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:23,630 and we would go sit in there and visit and talk. 143 00:07:25,590 --> 00:07:28,130 While we were sitting in there drinking coffee, 144 00:07:28,130 --> 00:07:31,720 Frankie did confess to killing Whitnei Dubois. 145 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:34,340 He said he had beaten and killed Whitnei 146 00:07:34,340 --> 00:07:35,840 at his mama's house 147 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:38,380 in a camper trailer on the side, 148 00:07:38,390 --> 00:07:40,640 where his brother Billy used to stay. 149 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:42,770 And that he had placed her in a 55-gallon drum 150 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:44,630 behind his mama's house. 151 00:07:47,220 --> 00:07:49,880 And he also confessed to killing Kristen. 152 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:57,470 He never went into detail of what took place about Kristen. 153 00:07:57,470 --> 00:07:59,670 I didn't, I didn't get into details with him, 154 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:02,680 I just listened to what he would speak of. Uh, 155 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:06,480 Frankie wasn't a person you pushed for answers. 156 00:08:06,470 --> 00:08:08,220 The next morning, 157 00:08:08,220 --> 00:08:09,420 I told the administrators there 158 00:08:09,430 --> 00:08:11,140 you know, that Frankie had confessed, 159 00:08:11,130 --> 00:08:12,840 and it wasn't the-- wasn't even the next morning, 160 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:14,470 Frankie was gone. 161 00:08:14,470 --> 00:08:17,840 They came and picked him up and brought him home. 162 00:08:19,510 --> 00:08:21,220 To this day, I don't know if anything 163 00:08:21,220 --> 00:08:23,590 ever been done about it. 164 00:08:23,590 --> 00:08:26,510 [Ethan] It doesn't make sense. 165 00:08:26,510 --> 00:08:29,630 People have put themselves at risk 166 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:31,560 by going to the task force, 167 00:08:31,550 --> 00:08:34,380 have given information to the task force 168 00:08:34,390 --> 00:08:37,390 that is credible, and that information 169 00:08:37,390 --> 00:08:40,180 just goes into a black hole. 170 00:08:52,470 --> 00:08:54,550 ♪ gentle, somber music ♪ 171 00:08:54,550 --> 00:08:56,630 ♪♪♪ 172 00:08:59,930 --> 00:09:03,390 [Millet] I was a Louisiana state trooper for 20 years. 173 00:09:03,390 --> 00:09:05,980 I retired as a deputy commander 174 00:09:05,970 --> 00:09:08,550 with the state police. 175 00:09:08,550 --> 00:09:11,130 When these murders first started happening, 176 00:09:11,130 --> 00:09:14,970 I and my wife, like everybody else, were concerned. 177 00:09:14,970 --> 00:09:17,880 We watched the news, we listened to all the different reports, 178 00:09:17,890 --> 00:09:20,890 but we assumed that the-the sheriff and the task force 179 00:09:20,890 --> 00:09:22,680 were gonna get to the bottom of the this 180 00:09:22,680 --> 00:09:24,560 and that they were doing their job. 181 00:09:24,550 --> 00:09:26,590 But as time elapsed, 182 00:09:26,590 --> 00:09:31,420 I was alarmed and-and quite frankly, disgusted 183 00:09:31,430 --> 00:09:32,930 that nothing had been done. 184 00:09:32,930 --> 00:09:34,390 Nothing had been solved. 185 00:09:34,390 --> 00:09:37,020 I was a Louisiana state trooper for 20 years, 186 00:09:37,010 --> 00:09:40,760 dealing with, um, gambling and prostitution and narcotics. 187 00:09:42,180 --> 00:09:43,770 I saw all these girls getting killed 188 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:45,260 and wondered what-what was going on. 189 00:09:45,260 --> 00:09:47,510 Why wasn't something done? 190 00:09:47,510 --> 00:09:49,420 I just didn't quite understand 191 00:09:49,430 --> 00:09:53,180 why they could not have solved these crimes. 192 00:09:53,180 --> 00:09:55,140 ♪♪♪ 193 00:09:55,130 --> 00:09:56,590 I got to talking to Tanny, 194 00:09:56,590 --> 00:09:58,470 and found out that he was interested 195 00:09:58,470 --> 00:10:00,220 and had been for some time. 196 00:10:00,220 --> 00:10:02,380 [Devillier] After talking to certain people 197 00:10:02,390 --> 00:10:05,520 in Jeff Davis Parish, confidential informers, 198 00:10:05,510 --> 00:10:08,550 families of these people that were killed, 199 00:10:08,550 --> 00:10:11,090 I thought, "Let's look at it again, 200 00:10:11,090 --> 00:10:14,300 and let's find out who still may be involved, 201 00:10:14,300 --> 00:10:16,220 that's still alive." 202 00:10:18,340 --> 00:10:21,590 [Millet] Anybody that you talk to in this investigation, 203 00:10:21,590 --> 00:10:24,050 Terrie Guillory's name always comes up. 204 00:10:24,050 --> 00:10:26,630 There were allegations while he was a warden 205 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:29,810 that he was having sex with some of the girls. 206 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:33,050 I would say that a warden having sex with inmates 207 00:10:33,050 --> 00:10:36,590 would be malfeasance at the least. 208 00:10:37,510 --> 00:10:39,380 And then, 209 00:10:39,390 --> 00:10:41,930 we found out that there was a lawsuit in federal court 210 00:10:41,930 --> 00:10:45,890 about sexual misconduct in the jail 211 00:10:45,890 --> 00:10:48,850 when Terrie Guillory was there as the warden. 212 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:50,380 [news reporter] As alleged in her lawsuit, 213 00:10:50,390 --> 00:10:53,180 it was just one week into her stay in jail 214 00:10:53,180 --> 00:10:57,020 when Lisa says jail guard Mark Ivory first assaulted her. 215 00:10:57,010 --> 00:10:59,010 You know, I figured it would be handled. 216 00:10:59,010 --> 00:11:00,840 [news reporter] This was Sheriff Edwards' response 217 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:03,170 when I asked him about the case Tuesday. 218 00:11:03,180 --> 00:11:06,020 It's very surprising that I did not know about it at the time, 219 00:11:06,010 --> 00:11:09,010 uh, but I won't go into any specifics about it at this time. 220 00:11:11,130 --> 00:11:14,510 [Ethan] The litigation was eventually settled, 221 00:11:14,510 --> 00:11:17,510 but not before accused jailer 222 00:11:17,510 --> 00:11:19,670 Mark Ivory took his own life. 223 00:11:21,220 --> 00:11:24,050 [Millet] I think it was a practice in the jail 224 00:11:24,050 --> 00:11:26,550 to abuse the girls, to have sex with them. 225 00:11:28,550 --> 00:11:31,130 I was able to pull documents that shows 226 00:11:31,130 --> 00:11:33,720 this went back to 2002, 227 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:36,590 when a deputy was charged for having sex 228 00:11:36,590 --> 00:11:39,880 and abusing these girls in the jail. 229 00:11:41,010 --> 00:11:42,720 [Ethan] Bucky and Tanny 230 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:45,220 brought this case to my attention. 231 00:11:47,590 --> 00:11:50,220 The case resulted in a plea deal 232 00:11:50,220 --> 00:11:53,380 to malfeasance in office. 233 00:11:53,390 --> 00:11:57,520 Terrie Guillory was not the warden at this time, 234 00:11:57,510 --> 00:12:02,130 but he conducted investigative interviews. 235 00:12:02,130 --> 00:12:06,420 And one of the witnesses was his cousin, 236 00:12:06,430 --> 00:12:07,930 victim number eight, 237 00:12:07,930 --> 00:12:10,350 Necole Guillory. 238 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:00,930 [grunts, sniffs] 239 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:40,380 ♪ slow, somber music ♪ 240 00:13:40,390 --> 00:13:42,680 ♪♪♪ 241 00:13:44,680 --> 00:13:46,350 [Barbara] Necole's second home 242 00:13:46,340 --> 00:13:48,340 was the jailhouse. [chuckles, sniffs] 243 00:13:48,340 --> 00:13:52,340 But she told me that she would rather be in jail, 244 00:13:52,340 --> 00:13:55,130 because she was safe. 245 00:13:55,130 --> 00:13:56,840 She felt safe there. 246 00:13:56,840 --> 00:14:01,510 And Necole told me that she would literally do things 247 00:14:01,510 --> 00:14:04,550 to get put in jail. 248 00:14:04,550 --> 00:14:07,010 ♪♪♪ 249 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:26,130 ♪♪♪ 250 00:14:28,470 --> 00:14:30,760 [Ethan] Necole Guillory was the last 251 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:34,670 of the Jeff Davis 8 victims in 2009. 252 00:14:35,510 --> 00:14:37,920 She said that she knew 253 00:14:37,930 --> 00:14:40,480 who was perpetrating these murders, 254 00:14:40,470 --> 00:14:44,880 from the very first victim in 2005. 255 00:14:46,890 --> 00:14:50,100 After Loretta's murder, 256 00:14:50,090 --> 00:14:53,550 Necole's closest family members said Necole 257 00:14:53,550 --> 00:14:56,590 became extremely paranoid, 258 00:14:56,590 --> 00:14:58,760 so paranoid, in fact, 259 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:01,260 that she locked herself in her room 260 00:15:01,260 --> 00:15:03,760 for nearly two weeks. 261 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:05,760 [Barbara] Necole told us 262 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:08,300 that she saw someone murdered. 263 00:15:08,300 --> 00:15:10,630 She told my o-oldest daughter that, too-- 264 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:13,230 that she saw someone murdered. 265 00:15:13,220 --> 00:15:17,050 When Necole would start to talk, 266 00:15:17,050 --> 00:15:18,470 she would clam up. 267 00:15:18,470 --> 00:15:20,800 When she realized what she was doing, 268 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:22,800 she would stop talking. 269 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:24,590 ♪ pulsing, dramatic music ♪ 270 00:15:24,590 --> 00:15:26,220 [Ethan] This is yet another thing 271 00:15:26,220 --> 00:15:28,170 that these women knew 272 00:15:28,180 --> 00:15:31,430 that put their lives at risk. 273 00:15:31,430 --> 00:15:34,810 Many of the women were witnesses 274 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:37,670 to the Jeff Davis 8 homicides themselves. 275 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:40,730 ♪♪♪ 276 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:45,130 Witnesses close to Muggy Brown went to the task force and said 277 00:15:45,130 --> 00:15:49,260 that Muggy saw the body of Loretta Chaisson 278 00:15:49,260 --> 00:15:50,840 floating in the canal 279 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:54,800 before a fisherman found her. 280 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:56,760 ♪ slow, suspenseful music ♪ 281 00:15:56,760 --> 00:16:00,630 Kristen Gary Lopez was also interrogated 282 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:03,480 in Loretta's case. 283 00:16:15,050 --> 00:16:17,050 Kristen was apparently pulled into a room. 284 00:16:17,050 --> 00:16:18,840 The door was closed. 285 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:20,220 The interrogation happened, 286 00:16:20,220 --> 00:16:24,010 and Kristen comes out... shaken. 287 00:16:46,010 --> 00:16:50,170 Muggy was also interviewed as a witness 288 00:16:50,180 --> 00:16:54,230 in the Ernestine Patterson investigation. 289 00:16:54,220 --> 00:16:57,630 ♪♪♪ 290 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:00,730 When she was in the South Andrew Street area, 291 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:04,720 Brittney Gary said loudly 292 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:08,220 that Uncle Frankie killed Whitnei. 293 00:17:08,220 --> 00:17:11,050 ♪♪♪ 294 00:17:11,050 --> 00:17:14,800 Crystal Shay Benoit Zeno told Brittney 295 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:18,880 that she knew who killed Muggy Brown. 296 00:17:18,890 --> 00:17:21,230 ♪♪♪ 297 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:29,550 According to Necole's mother, Barbara, 298 00:17:29,550 --> 00:17:32,260 Necole knew who was doing this. 299 00:17:32,260 --> 00:17:34,470 She's known all along. 300 00:17:34,470 --> 00:17:37,090 She said Necole told her 301 00:17:37,090 --> 00:17:40,550 that it was the police that was killing these girls. 302 00:17:40,550 --> 00:17:42,090 And, in fact, 303 00:17:42,090 --> 00:17:44,840 a witness actually went to the task force 304 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:47,630 months before Necole was killed 305 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:51,350 and said that Necole was going to be the next victim. 306 00:17:51,340 --> 00:17:53,420 And, indeed, she was. 307 00:17:53,430 --> 00:17:55,770 ♪♪♪ 308 00:18:01,590 --> 00:18:04,920 I had been working on the case for about three years. 309 00:18:04,930 --> 00:18:08,560 In January of 2014, I finally published 310 00:18:08,550 --> 00:18:11,920 a long piece about the Jeff Davis 8 case 311 00:18:11,930 --> 00:18:14,060 on Medium. 312 00:18:17,130 --> 00:18:20,340 After the piece was published, 313 00:18:20,340 --> 00:18:23,720 there was extraordinary attention on the case. 314 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:26,300 I received tips 315 00:18:26,300 --> 00:18:29,760 and information constantly. 316 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:32,800 One of the messages that I received 317 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:35,420 was from a reporter 318 00:18:35,430 --> 00:18:39,310 who introduced himself as an expert on the Ku Klux Klan. 319 00:18:39,300 --> 00:18:42,590 He said, "I'm working on a huge story 320 00:18:42,590 --> 00:18:46,970 about a Klan informant in Jefferson Davis Parish 321 00:18:46,970 --> 00:18:51,010 who is also a police officer. 322 00:18:51,010 --> 00:18:53,800 The police officer has a lot of information 323 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:56,470 about someone named Terrie Guillory." 324 00:18:57,640 --> 00:18:59,890 [phone line ringing] 325 00:18:59,890 --> 00:19:01,930 [Mott] This is Raymond. 326 00:19:01,930 --> 00:19:03,850 [Ethan] Hey, Raymond, it's, uh, Ethan Brown here. 327 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:05,260 I don't know if you know me, 328 00:19:05,260 --> 00:19:08,340 but I'm an investigative reporter in New Orleans. 329 00:19:14,510 --> 00:19:17,340 [Ethan] You know, I've been contacted about your story 330 00:19:17,340 --> 00:19:21,170 because there's a major character in-in common, 331 00:19:21,180 --> 00:19:23,020 which is Terrie Guillory. 332 00:19:30,470 --> 00:19:33,220 Raymond Mott was a police officer 333 00:19:33,220 --> 00:19:35,510 with the Lake Arthur Police Department, 334 00:19:35,510 --> 00:19:38,420 which is just a few miles down the road from Jennings. 335 00:19:39,590 --> 00:19:43,050 And Terrie was his boss. 336 00:19:43,050 --> 00:19:46,010 [Mott] It was approximately a month and a half 337 00:19:46,010 --> 00:19:48,170 after I started with Lake Arthur Police Department 338 00:19:48,180 --> 00:19:50,850 that the chief brought in Terrie Guillory. 339 00:19:52,430 --> 00:19:55,230 I didn't know Terrie Guillory personally, 340 00:19:55,220 --> 00:19:57,920 but when you arrest somebody for narcotics, 341 00:19:57,930 --> 00:20:01,060 you try to get them to roll over and give you some information, 342 00:20:01,050 --> 00:20:03,260 and one of the things I always told the informants 343 00:20:03,260 --> 00:20:04,920 that I've had 344 00:20:04,930 --> 00:20:09,520 is you have to work off three charges or give me a dirty cop. 345 00:20:09,510 --> 00:20:13,380 And when people would hear that, "Give me a dirty cop," 346 00:20:13,390 --> 00:20:17,230 uh, Terrie Guillory's name, 80% of the time, popped up. 347 00:20:30,260 --> 00:20:33,090 ♪ slow, somber music ♪ 348 00:20:33,090 --> 00:20:37,300 [Ethan] Raymond's story is complicated. 349 00:20:37,300 --> 00:20:40,590 Right around the time when we spoke, 350 00:20:40,590 --> 00:20:42,920 a picture of him had emerged 351 00:20:42,930 --> 00:20:45,520 from a Klan rally. 352 00:20:45,510 --> 00:20:50,260 He ended up being fired from the Lake Arthur PD. 353 00:20:54,300 --> 00:20:57,470 [Mott] I never denied it was me in the photograph 354 00:20:57,470 --> 00:21:00,260 but there's a story behind the photo. 355 00:21:01,430 --> 00:21:03,770 [Ethan] According to Raymond Mott, 356 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:07,340 in the summer of 2014, he and a friend 357 00:21:07,340 --> 00:21:11,260 went to a Klan rally in North Carolina 358 00:21:11,260 --> 00:21:15,170 and when they came back, uh, Raymond had some regrets. 359 00:21:15,180 --> 00:21:16,980 It was supposed to be a protest against illegal immigration 360 00:21:16,970 --> 00:21:18,470 and the effects 361 00:21:18,470 --> 00:21:21,130 that illegal immigration has on our government, 362 00:21:21,130 --> 00:21:23,550 which I s-- I stood behind that-that principle 363 00:21:23,550 --> 00:21:25,920 the whole time and still do till this day. 364 00:21:25,930 --> 00:21:29,480 Uh, but when I got there, it-it's not what it was. 365 00:21:29,470 --> 00:21:33,130 What I did is took the information that I had 366 00:21:33,130 --> 00:21:34,630 and compiled a file. 367 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:38,720 I gave the information to an FBI agent, 368 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:40,720 told her the information on the KKK 369 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:42,470 and-and all this other stuff. 370 00:21:42,470 --> 00:21:46,340 Because of the information that I gave to the federal agent, 371 00:21:46,340 --> 00:21:50,670 the Louisiana state charter of the KKK lost all their members. 372 00:21:53,050 --> 00:21:55,800 [Ethan] Raymond claimed that 373 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:58,800 the photograph of him at the Klan rally 374 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:03,510 was used as ammunition to terminate him 375 00:22:03,510 --> 00:22:05,170 once he raised 376 00:22:05,180 --> 00:22:07,640 very serious claims about Terrie Guillory. 377 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:10,350 ♪ suspenseful music ♪ 378 00:22:10,340 --> 00:22:13,920 [Mott] I had been hired by Lake Arthur to work in narcotics. 379 00:22:13,930 --> 00:22:18,020 This small town has an awful lot of narcotics activity. 380 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:21,220 And, just like I always do, 381 00:22:21,220 --> 00:22:22,840 start making drug busts left and right. 382 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:26,340 I'd make four or five drug busts almost every shift. 383 00:22:30,340 --> 00:22:32,380 Whenever I would make a substantial drug bust, 384 00:22:32,390 --> 00:22:34,430 that'd put the case in the newspaper, 385 00:22:34,430 --> 00:22:35,890 I would put the person's picture. 386 00:22:35,890 --> 00:22:38,310 I would let the community know: 387 00:22:38,300 --> 00:22:40,920 this is the person, this is what they were caught with. 388 00:22:40,930 --> 00:22:42,600 During this time, 389 00:22:42,590 --> 00:22:45,720 Terrie Guillory and I had several conversations 390 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:47,970 based on my job performance. 391 00:22:47,970 --> 00:22:50,130 He was telling me that 392 00:22:50,130 --> 00:22:54,380 I can't do narcotics work in a small town 393 00:22:54,390 --> 00:22:57,140 like I do for a larger department. 394 00:22:57,130 --> 00:22:59,380 And then Terrie called me in the office one day 395 00:22:59,390 --> 00:23:01,680 as assistant chief and gave me a direct order 396 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:03,770 to stop making drug busts. 397 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:06,220 "People are tired of reading about you and your drug busts 398 00:23:06,220 --> 00:23:08,470 in the newspaper. Now stop." 399 00:23:11,260 --> 00:23:13,260 Shortly after that incident, 400 00:23:13,260 --> 00:23:14,470 the photo was released, 401 00:23:14,470 --> 00:23:16,590 and I was fired. 402 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:20,920 The Lake Arthur police department sat on the... 403 00:23:20,930 --> 00:23:23,100 on the photo for over four months. 404 00:23:23,090 --> 00:23:25,420 They didn't use it. They just kept it. 405 00:23:25,430 --> 00:23:28,430 I think that the-the photo was dropped and released 406 00:23:28,430 --> 00:23:32,020 because I was an obstruction to Terrie Guillory's agenda. 407 00:23:32,010 --> 00:23:33,920 ♪ melancholy music, featuring strings ♪ 408 00:23:33,930 --> 00:23:36,060 ♪♪♪ 409 00:23:40,890 --> 00:23:43,310 [birds singing] 410 00:23:43,300 --> 00:23:46,340 [Ethan] Raymond also told me 411 00:23:46,340 --> 00:23:48,170 a story about Terrie 412 00:23:48,180 --> 00:23:50,640 and Crystal Shay Benoit Zeno, 413 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:53,180 victim number six. 414 00:23:53,180 --> 00:23:55,270 ♪ suspenseful music ♪ 415 00:23:55,260 --> 00:23:57,260 [Mott] The chief and I were dispatched 416 00:23:57,260 --> 00:24:00,420 to Crystal Zeno's sister's residence. 417 00:24:00,430 --> 00:24:03,600 She had a dispute with the neighbor. 418 00:24:03,590 --> 00:24:06,130 When I made contact with the complainant, 419 00:24:06,130 --> 00:24:07,380 she went into hysterics. 420 00:24:07,390 --> 00:24:09,230 She started screaming and crying, and 421 00:24:09,220 --> 00:24:12,130 I tried to calm her down and ask her what was going on. 422 00:24:12,130 --> 00:24:14,590 And she just started saying she didn't trust law enforcement, 423 00:24:14,590 --> 00:24:16,300 she didn't trust the police. 424 00:24:16,300 --> 00:24:19,470 Uh, then she outright directly said, 425 00:24:19,470 --> 00:24:20,920 "Terrie Guillory killed my sister." 426 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:25,970 This was not the first time I heard Terrie Guillory's name 427 00:24:25,970 --> 00:24:29,220 in reference to the Jeff Davis 8. 428 00:24:29,220 --> 00:24:31,800 I did talk to Terrie about things like that. 429 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:33,420 I say, 430 00:24:33,430 --> 00:24:35,560 "Terrie, there's a lot of people talking on the streets, 431 00:24:35,550 --> 00:24:37,760 saying you were involved with the Jeff Davis 8. 432 00:24:38,970 --> 00:24:40,090 People are saying 433 00:24:40,090 --> 00:24:42,720 you had sexual contact with the victims. 434 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:46,010 People were telling me that you were the last phone call 435 00:24:46,010 --> 00:24:48,920 a couple of the girls made before they ended up missing." 436 00:24:51,550 --> 00:24:53,840 And Terrie looked me directly in the face 437 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:58,170 and said, "You can believe about 95% of what you hear." 438 00:24:58,180 --> 00:25:00,020 ♪ dramatic music ♪ 439 00:25:00,010 --> 00:25:01,800 ♪♪♪ 440 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:03,760 I didn't really know how to take that, 441 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,300 you know, because I've been hearing a lot. 442 00:25:06,300 --> 00:25:09,380 It felt like he was confessing a crime to me. 443 00:25:09,390 --> 00:25:11,430 ♪ suspenseful music ♪ 444 00:25:11,430 --> 00:25:13,600 ♪♪♪ 445 00:25:15,890 --> 00:25:17,730 Later on that day, 446 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:20,260 Terrie was sitting outside under the awning, 447 00:25:20,260 --> 00:25:22,090 and he called me over to him. 448 00:25:22,090 --> 00:25:24,220 He looked me in the face, and he said, 449 00:25:24,220 --> 00:25:26,550 "Try to do the right thing, 450 00:25:26,550 --> 00:25:29,220 because your demons will come back, 451 00:25:29,220 --> 00:25:31,340 and they'll find you." 452 00:25:31,340 --> 00:25:33,880 And then he told me about the Jeff Davis 8. 453 00:25:33,890 --> 00:25:36,520 He said, "Man, I can tell you things about that case 454 00:25:36,510 --> 00:25:38,590 that would... that would blow you away." 455 00:25:38,590 --> 00:25:40,220 He said, "That wasn't just one killers." 456 00:25:40,220 --> 00:25:41,590 He said, "It was several different people." 457 00:25:41,590 --> 00:25:44,300 ♪ suspenseful music ♪ 458 00:25:44,300 --> 00:25:48,470 Later, I did a full police report on the incident, 459 00:25:48,470 --> 00:25:50,630 and also put in the report 460 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:54,390 the statement made about Terrie Guillory. 461 00:25:54,390 --> 00:25:56,350 Unfortunately, at the time, 462 00:25:56,340 --> 00:25:58,420 Terrie Guillory was the guy checking the reports 463 00:25:58,430 --> 00:26:01,890 and turning them in on our behalf, 464 00:26:01,890 --> 00:26:04,430 um, so, I haven't heard anything 465 00:26:04,430 --> 00:26:07,140 or seen anything of the report since. 466 00:26:07,130 --> 00:26:09,340 ♪ dramatic music ♪ 467 00:26:09,340 --> 00:26:11,590 ♪♪♪ 468 00:26:15,090 --> 00:26:17,300 [Devillier] The people in Jennings 469 00:26:17,300 --> 00:26:19,420 that I've talked to-- 470 00:26:19,430 --> 00:26:21,430 we're talking about people that were, 471 00:26:21,430 --> 00:26:24,390 um, regular Joes, 472 00:26:24,390 --> 00:26:27,060 you know, the families of the persons 473 00:26:27,050 --> 00:26:30,300 who were killed, their relatives-- 474 00:26:30,300 --> 00:26:33,590 they're all fearful of law enforcement in Jennings. 475 00:26:33,590 --> 00:26:35,630 ♪ suspenseful music ♪ 476 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,180 ♪♪♪ 477 00:26:38,180 --> 00:26:41,430 [Ethan] Bucky and Tanny contacted me, 478 00:26:41,430 --> 00:26:43,270 and we've been putting together 479 00:26:43,260 --> 00:26:46,420 information about 480 00:26:46,430 --> 00:26:49,600 current law enforcement misconduct 481 00:26:49,590 --> 00:26:52,340 that connects back to the Jeff Davis 8 case. 482 00:26:52,340 --> 00:26:57,050 They believe that the most effective avenue 483 00:26:57,050 --> 00:27:00,130 for this case is with the Feds. 484 00:27:00,130 --> 00:27:03,380 We're suggesting that we hand this over 485 00:27:03,390 --> 00:27:06,310 to law enforcement that can be trusted. 486 00:27:08,430 --> 00:27:11,980 What I want to do is to ask Sheriff Ivy Woods 487 00:27:11,970 --> 00:27:16,630 if he would consider calling FBI in 488 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,640 so that we could give them all the information we have, 489 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:21,890 and they could coordinate their efforts together 490 00:27:21,890 --> 00:27:24,390 and perhaps solve some of these crimes. 491 00:27:24,390 --> 00:27:28,520 I personally can see no reason for him not to ask the Feds in, 492 00:27:28,510 --> 00:27:31,920 because, um, one of his campaign promises was 493 00:27:31,930 --> 00:27:33,520 to really get after this... 494 00:27:33,510 --> 00:27:36,010 these murders and try to solve 'em. 495 00:27:37,510 --> 00:27:39,670 [Ethan] Why wouldn't Ivy say, 496 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:43,180 "This is rooted in the past. 497 00:27:43,180 --> 00:27:44,890 I'm gonna step away 498 00:27:44,890 --> 00:27:48,850 from this," and simply invite the Feds in? 499 00:27:51,010 --> 00:27:52,760 [Devillier] People are not gonna come forward 500 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:55,090 if they don't trust you. 501 00:27:55,090 --> 00:27:57,970 The task force and the sheriff back then 502 00:27:57,970 --> 00:28:01,220 were all asking for tips, and asking, "Please come forward," 503 00:28:01,220 --> 00:28:04,590 and this and that, one thing or another. 504 00:28:04,590 --> 00:28:07,380 People were just too afraid. 505 00:28:07,390 --> 00:28:08,850 They were all afraid. 506 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:12,380 And I think they had reason to be afraid. 507 00:28:16,510 --> 00:28:19,630 I had no faith in the task force. 508 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:23,520 And to this day, I still have no faith in the task force. 509 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,670 The community of Jennings don't trust the law enforcement. 510 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:30,730 Because y'all don't know who to trust. 511 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:32,590 Y'all don't know who to go to. 512 00:28:32,590 --> 00:28:34,420 They don't want to release no information. 513 00:28:34,430 --> 00:28:36,730 Or no nothing to nobody. 514 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:38,880 They want to push everything to the side. 515 00:28:40,090 --> 00:28:42,420 [Nick] I was told by one person, 516 00:28:42,430 --> 00:28:44,060 I met with this lady some years back. 517 00:28:44,050 --> 00:28:45,840 She wanted to meet with me, and she wanted to tell me 518 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:47,090 her part in the whole thing 519 00:28:47,090 --> 00:28:49,840 about how she was helping with the investigation. 520 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,090 One of the things that stuck out: 521 00:28:52,090 --> 00:28:56,760 She told me that it goes higher than we think it is. 522 00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:59,170 Not just the authorities in this town. It goes higher. 523 00:28:59,180 --> 00:29:01,140 ♪ suspenseful music ♪ 524 00:29:01,130 --> 00:29:03,090 ♪♪♪ 525 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:09,470 [Ethan] I still had questions 526 00:29:09,470 --> 00:29:13,920 about what was preventing the case from being solved. 527 00:29:13,930 --> 00:29:18,560 And I kept coming back to the Boudreaux Inn. 528 00:29:18,550 --> 00:29:21,840 The incident reports that I had pulled 529 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:23,630 raise enormous questions 530 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,810 about how this place continued 531 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:28,920 to be operated unencumbered. 532 00:29:30,010 --> 00:29:32,840 Drug activity was a constant. 533 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,630 The sex trade was a constant. 534 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:37,230 This is something that everybody knew. 535 00:29:37,220 --> 00:29:39,090 And this was all happening at the height 536 00:29:39,090 --> 00:29:40,970 of the Jeff Davis 8 case. 537 00:29:43,010 --> 00:29:45,970 The Boudreaux Inn had a license for gambling. 538 00:29:45,970 --> 00:29:49,670 And the standard for those licenses 539 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,600 is actually quite high. 540 00:29:52,590 --> 00:29:54,840 You could have something as... 541 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:58,130 a 16-year-old drinking on the premises 542 00:29:58,130 --> 00:30:01,420 and lose your license based on that. 543 00:30:03,390 --> 00:30:06,850 It seems impossible the Boudreaux Inn 544 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:10,220 could maintain its gambling license; 545 00:30:10,220 --> 00:30:13,050 could maintain its liquor license 546 00:30:13,050 --> 00:30:16,760 without protection from local law enforcement. 547 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:18,840 ♪ sinister music ♪ 548 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:20,630 ♪♪♪ 549 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:22,270 You have to understand 550 00:30:22,260 --> 00:30:25,880 politics in Louisiana. 551 00:30:25,890 --> 00:30:27,810 You have to understand that for you to be able 552 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:31,970 to do something that's illegal and get away with it, 553 00:30:31,970 --> 00:30:36,010 you have to have the ability to call somebody 554 00:30:36,010 --> 00:30:37,510 to get out of trouble. 555 00:30:42,220 --> 00:30:44,670 [Ethan] What I heard, you had to be careful 556 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:46,020 of the Boudreaux Inn 557 00:30:46,010 --> 00:30:48,880 because there were powerful people 558 00:30:48,890 --> 00:30:51,930 behind the business. 559 00:30:51,930 --> 00:30:56,060 The notion of a powerful person or persons 560 00:30:56,050 --> 00:31:00,550 didn't come with any kind of hint of who that might be. 561 00:31:00,550 --> 00:31:04,130 What I thought that they meant was, 562 00:31:04,130 --> 00:31:06,720 a well-heeled local, 563 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:10,340 maybe a man who owned a car dealership 564 00:31:10,340 --> 00:31:12,550 in Jennings. 565 00:31:12,550 --> 00:31:14,130 I just didn't know. 566 00:31:15,220 --> 00:31:17,760 But it always stayed in my mind 567 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,630 to be wary of the Boudreaux Inn. 568 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:29,140 As I dug deeper, I began to hear about 569 00:31:29,130 --> 00:31:33,670 someone named "Big G" related to the Boudreaux Inn. 570 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:37,100 Big G was our poker man. He would come on Wednesdays, 571 00:31:37,090 --> 00:31:40,050 and he would, uh, clean the poker machines out 572 00:31:40,050 --> 00:31:41,590 and count the poker money. 573 00:31:41,590 --> 00:31:45,260 He was a big, heavyset fellow, 574 00:31:45,260 --> 00:31:48,170 like he could pull his weight if he wanted to. 575 00:31:48,180 --> 00:31:50,560 I did meet him one time. 576 00:31:50,550 --> 00:31:54,090 I told him "Nice to meet you," shook his hand. 577 00:31:54,090 --> 00:31:58,550 He was-- I don't know, didn't look happy, I mean, 578 00:31:58,550 --> 00:32:00,470 like a Good... [chuckles] 579 00:32:00,470 --> 00:32:02,090 Good Samaritan, you know what I'm saying? 580 00:32:02,090 --> 00:32:04,920 He wasn't a friendly man; let's put it like that. 581 00:32:04,930 --> 00:32:07,100 ♪ somber music ♪ 582 00:32:07,090 --> 00:32:09,260 ♪♪♪ 583 00:32:09,260 --> 00:32:12,880 [Ethan] Someone told me "G" stood for "Guillory," 584 00:32:12,890 --> 00:32:16,980 which was particularly unhelpful given the number of people 585 00:32:16,970 --> 00:32:20,340 in Jeff Davis Parish with Guillory as their last name. 586 00:32:20,340 --> 00:32:24,380 But I pulled the lease for the Boudreaux Inn. 587 00:32:24,390 --> 00:32:27,810 Sure enough, on the lease was 588 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,970 a Martin Guillory. 589 00:32:33,390 --> 00:32:35,140 Who is Martin Guillory? 590 00:32:35,130 --> 00:32:37,300 What does he do? 591 00:32:37,300 --> 00:32:42,130 What did he know or not know about what was going on 592 00:32:42,130 --> 00:32:45,380 at the Boudreaux Inn at the time that he operated it. 593 00:32:46,510 --> 00:32:49,630 -[phone line ringing] -[Martin] Hello? 594 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:52,640 [Ethan over phone] Hi, is-is this Martin Guillory? 595 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,020 -Yes. -Hey, it's... Ethan Brown here. 596 00:32:55,010 --> 00:32:57,340 -Who? -Ethan Brown. 597 00:32:57,340 --> 00:33:02,220 I'm the, uh, reporter who contacted you 598 00:33:02,220 --> 00:33:04,260 several days ago, and you asked me 599 00:33:04,260 --> 00:33:07,510 to send an introductory e-mail to you... 600 00:33:07,510 --> 00:33:09,170 Uh-huh. 601 00:33:09,180 --> 00:33:12,850 [Ethan] I had been investigating Martin Guillory. 602 00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:16,670 He lived a bit east of Jennings. 603 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:18,350 Deep Cajun country. 604 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:23,930 He ran for local political offices, 605 00:33:23,930 --> 00:33:25,600 and he... 606 00:33:25,590 --> 00:33:29,880 was involved in some small campaigns. 607 00:33:29,890 --> 00:33:34,680 [Ethan on phone] So I-I have a-a few questions for you. 608 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:38,390 [Martin] Uh, I will not answer any question, Mr. Brown. 609 00:33:38,390 --> 00:33:41,390 [Ethan] Okay, so, so your-- I want to be clear here, 610 00:33:41,390 --> 00:33:43,810 though, Mr. Guillory. I'm giving you the opportunity 611 00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:45,970 to respond to allegations. 612 00:33:45,970 --> 00:33:47,670 So your position is, 613 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,140 "I-I have no response"? 614 00:33:50,130 --> 00:33:51,670 [Martin] Well, no, I mean, what allegations 615 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:53,600 do you have against me? 616 00:33:53,590 --> 00:33:57,300 [Ethan] Were you aware of criminal activity occurring 617 00:33:57,300 --> 00:34:00,260 -at the Boudreaux Inn? -[Martin] No, sir. 618 00:34:00,260 --> 00:34:02,550 [Ethan] Were you aware of the women of the Jeff Davis 8 619 00:34:02,550 --> 00:34:05,590 being involved in prostitution at the Boudreaux Inn? 620 00:34:05,590 --> 00:34:08,880 -No, sir. -Did you know those women? 621 00:34:08,890 --> 00:34:12,930 Uh, I met one or two, but, uh, I, 622 00:34:12,930 --> 00:34:15,390 I did not know the rest of 'em. 623 00:34:15,390 --> 00:34:16,680 [Ethan] Okay. 624 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:19,590 ♪ suspenseful music ♪ 625 00:34:19,590 --> 00:34:21,670 ♪♪♪ 626 00:34:25,300 --> 00:34:29,970 [Ethan] There was a time in the summer of 2011. 627 00:34:29,970 --> 00:34:33,220 I had just met Frankie Richard. 628 00:34:33,220 --> 00:34:35,670 I was in my earliest stages 629 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:37,850 of looking at this case. 630 00:34:39,010 --> 00:34:40,420 And... 631 00:34:40,430 --> 00:34:42,930 Frankie, at that time, 632 00:34:42,930 --> 00:34:47,310 really enjoyed calling me on my cell phone. 633 00:34:47,300 --> 00:34:49,340 Occasionally, he'd give me tips on the case, 634 00:34:49,340 --> 00:34:52,220 or things that he thought were tips, 635 00:34:52,220 --> 00:34:56,050 and at one point he said... 636 00:34:56,050 --> 00:34:57,760 "Hey. 637 00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,800 You know about Charles Boustany? 638 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:02,470 You need to investigate him." 639 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:09,220 I'd certainly heard the name Charles Boustany. 640 00:35:09,220 --> 00:35:10,920 He was a congressman 641 00:35:10,930 --> 00:35:14,020 in my then home state of Louisiana, 642 00:35:14,010 --> 00:35:18,470 who, in 2016, was running for United States Senate. 643 00:35:18,470 --> 00:35:22,970 [Boustany] Tonight, I'm proud to announce my candidacy 644 00:35:22,970 --> 00:35:24,300 to be the next United States senator 645 00:35:24,300 --> 00:35:26,420 for our great state of Louisiana. 646 00:35:26,430 --> 00:35:28,980 [cheering, whooping] 647 00:35:28,970 --> 00:35:32,420 He was a conservative politician, 648 00:35:32,430 --> 00:35:34,770 a family values sort of politician. 649 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:36,970 Louisiana's a conservative state. 650 00:35:36,970 --> 00:35:41,380 We hold close traditional values of faith and family. 651 00:35:41,390 --> 00:35:43,480 We value the lives of the unborn. 652 00:35:43,470 --> 00:35:45,420 We believe in the rule of law. 653 00:35:45,430 --> 00:35:48,850 We know strong families provide the best opportunities 654 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:50,880 for the success of our children. 655 00:35:50,890 --> 00:35:53,350 Values that would, uh, 656 00:35:53,340 --> 00:35:57,220 be in conflict with the sort of things 657 00:35:57,220 --> 00:36:00,010 that were going on at the Boudreaux Inn. 658 00:36:02,010 --> 00:36:05,380 I had never heard Charles Boustany's name 659 00:36:05,390 --> 00:36:09,270 in the context of the Jeff Davis 8 case, 660 00:36:09,260 --> 00:36:13,220 but now, many years later, 661 00:36:13,220 --> 00:36:17,090 as I looked more at Big G Guillory, 662 00:36:17,090 --> 00:36:21,050 I had found that he had 663 00:36:21,050 --> 00:36:25,510 a phone number on Capitol Hill. 664 00:36:25,510 --> 00:36:29,220 The man who ran the Boudreaux Inn 665 00:36:29,220 --> 00:36:31,720 was a field representative 666 00:36:31,720 --> 00:36:36,380 for Congressman Charles Boustany. 667 00:36:42,010 --> 00:36:45,720 What was Charles Boustany's relationship 668 00:36:45,720 --> 00:36:50,300 with the Boudreaux Inn and with the women of the Jeff Davis 8? 669 00:36:51,390 --> 00:36:54,060 ♪ slow, suspenseful music ♪ 670 00:36:54,050 --> 00:36:58,880 I spoke to a relative of Necole Guillory's, 671 00:36:58,890 --> 00:37:01,230 and this person said 672 00:37:01,220 --> 00:37:04,510 that she was with Necole 673 00:37:04,510 --> 00:37:08,590 and they passed yard signs 674 00:37:08,590 --> 00:37:10,920 for Charles Boustany, 675 00:37:10,930 --> 00:37:14,600 and Necole pointed him out 676 00:37:14,590 --> 00:37:18,260 as somebody that she knew from the Boudreaux Inn. 677 00:37:21,390 --> 00:37:26,270 [Ethan] She used his name-- Charles Boustany? 678 00:37:32,470 --> 00:37:34,880 [Jessica] I was walking with Kristen one day 679 00:37:34,890 --> 00:37:36,810 to her grandma's house. 680 00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:39,760 She talked about Charles Boustany. 681 00:37:43,130 --> 00:37:45,470 She had sex with him, 682 00:37:45,470 --> 00:37:49,260 he paid her, they had a little heated argument. 683 00:37:51,890 --> 00:37:56,560 What Kristen and Charles Boustany was arguing about? 684 00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:01,130 Wouldn't say. 685 00:38:06,130 --> 00:38:08,720 [Frankie] The rumor has it 686 00:38:08,720 --> 00:38:12,760 that Loretta 687 00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:15,970 was tricking 688 00:38:15,970 --> 00:38:18,340 with Charles Boustany. 689 00:38:18,340 --> 00:38:20,880 Oh, Loretta was one of his favorite girls. 690 00:38:20,890 --> 00:38:23,270 [Ethan] And tell me about your work with Charles Boustany. 691 00:38:23,260 --> 00:38:25,470 I know you've been his field representative 692 00:38:25,470 --> 00:38:28,050 -since 2005? -[Martin] Something like that. 693 00:38:28,050 --> 00:38:29,970 -Yes, sir. -[Ethan] Okay. 694 00:38:29,970 --> 00:38:32,050 Did Charles Boustany ever go to the Boudreaux Inn? 695 00:38:32,050 --> 00:38:34,090 [Martin] Not that I can remember. 696 00:38:34,090 --> 00:38:37,670 [Ethan] Did Mr. Boustany ever know or have a relationship 697 00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:41,270 in any capacity with any of the women of the Jeff Davis 8? 698 00:38:41,260 --> 00:38:44,300 [Martin] Well, of course not. Not that I know of. 699 00:38:44,300 --> 00:38:46,670 Why would that man deal with any of the women 700 00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:48,560 at Boudreaux Inn? 701 00:38:48,550 --> 00:38:50,630 [Ethan] I don't know. I'm-- it-it's a question. 702 00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:52,350 [Martin] W-Well, sir, 703 00:38:52,340 --> 00:38:54,670 I don't know what's your alternative motive, 704 00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:56,680 I don't know who you're working for 705 00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:59,850 and what are you trying to insinuate here, 706 00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:02,970 but I assure you, you're going down the wrong path. Okay? 707 00:39:02,970 --> 00:39:05,510 -[Ethan] Fair enough. -That's all I have to tell you. 708 00:39:05,510 --> 00:39:07,420 [Martin] You get whatever you got, 709 00:39:07,430 --> 00:39:09,350 and, uh, just do what you got to do 710 00:39:09,340 --> 00:39:12,050 and I-I assure you that when you'll come out 711 00:39:12,050 --> 00:39:13,420 with all of these allegations, 712 00:39:13,430 --> 00:39:16,060 uh, we gonna file suit against you. 713 00:39:16,050 --> 00:39:18,220 Don't you ever talk to me no more. 714 00:39:18,220 --> 00:39:20,340 [phone clicking] 715 00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:24,180 [Cormier] The fact that a source said 716 00:39:24,180 --> 00:39:26,850 that Charles Boustany was there doesn't prove 717 00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:29,800 that he was there, from a legal standpoint. 718 00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:31,550 Somebody said this happened. 719 00:39:31,550 --> 00:39:34,550 You know, obviously, it's information, 720 00:39:34,550 --> 00:39:35,880 and you have to look into it, and we did. 721 00:39:35,890 --> 00:39:37,560 It's like anybody else. 722 00:39:37,550 --> 00:39:42,050 Now, just because somebody said that it was Charles Boustany 723 00:39:42,050 --> 00:39:45,130 doesn't mean it was. 724 00:39:45,130 --> 00:39:47,050 Doesn't mean it wasn't. 725 00:39:51,090 --> 00:39:54,090 [news reporter] The headline of The Washington Post story reads 726 00:39:54,090 --> 00:39:57,760 "A new prostitution scandal roils a Louisiana Senate race." 727 00:39:57,760 --> 00:39:59,760 [news reporter 2] The claims stem from a book 728 00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:01,760 written by a journalist, Ethan Brown, that examined 729 00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:05,420 the unsolved murder of eight prostitutes in Louisiana. 730 00:40:05,430 --> 00:40:08,930 Joining us now, Republican congressman Charles Boustany. 731 00:40:08,930 --> 00:40:10,930 These are scurrilous, baseless lies. 732 00:40:10,930 --> 00:40:13,600 Let me be very clear: it's politically motivated 733 00:40:13,590 --> 00:40:16,590 at a time when my campaign has significant momentum. 734 00:40:16,590 --> 00:40:18,670 I've got to ask you. Part of being in the Senate 735 00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:21,020 is-is a judgment issue. 736 00:40:21,010 --> 00:40:23,670 And I'm wondering if it goes at all to the issue of judgment 737 00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:25,430 that you had this staffer 738 00:40:25,430 --> 00:40:27,390 who I don't think anyone would question 739 00:40:27,390 --> 00:40:31,020 whether or not he was involved in running this "Bordeaux" Inn 740 00:40:31,010 --> 00:40:33,670 where these eight women who were prostitutes hosted clients. 741 00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:37,730 W-Why keep him on the staff? Why have that liability? 742 00:40:37,720 --> 00:40:40,970 Well, we didn't know about this until this just broke. 743 00:40:40,970 --> 00:40:44,630 And, uh, he hid this from us, and when we found out about it, 744 00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:48,140 uh, we immediately terminated his-his deal. 745 00:40:48,130 --> 00:40:50,090 He actually offered his resignation, uh, 746 00:40:50,090 --> 00:40:53,340 and-and was sh-- felt shame that he hid this from us. 747 00:40:53,340 --> 00:40:56,300 We have no, uh, no relationship 748 00:40:56,300 --> 00:40:58,550 with him now in my official office. 749 00:40:58,550 --> 00:41:00,720 We didn't know about this until this broke. 750 00:41:00,720 --> 00:41:02,970 And, uh, we're gonna get this campaign 751 00:41:02,970 --> 00:41:04,720 back on what it needs to be on, 752 00:41:04,720 --> 00:41:09,300 national security, on d-dealing with this stalled economy 753 00:41:09,300 --> 00:41:10,760 and protecting our American values. 754 00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:12,300 Everything's under assault right now, 755 00:41:12,300 --> 00:41:13,550 and it's time to move forward 756 00:41:13,550 --> 00:41:16,300 with the real issues in this campaign. 757 00:41:16,300 --> 00:41:18,340 ♪ slow, somber music ♪ 758 00:41:18,340 --> 00:41:20,470 ♪♪♪ 759 00:41:47,890 --> 00:41:50,730 ♪♪♪ 760 00:41:50,720 --> 00:41:54,420 [Ethan] The alleged involvement of Charles Boustany 761 00:41:54,430 --> 00:41:57,890 with several of the Jeff Davis 8 women 762 00:41:57,890 --> 00:42:01,390 certainly does not suggest that Charles Boustany himself 763 00:42:01,390 --> 00:42:03,560 was involved in any way 764 00:42:03,550 --> 00:42:07,050 with the homicides of these women. 765 00:42:07,050 --> 00:42:08,920 What it suggests to me 766 00:42:08,930 --> 00:42:13,230 is that there is yet another layer of power 767 00:42:13,220 --> 00:42:14,720 involved in this case 768 00:42:14,720 --> 00:42:18,760 that would prevent the case from being solved. 769 00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:20,800 ♪ gentle, somber music ♪ 770 00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:22,670 ♪♪♪ 771 00:42:26,930 --> 00:42:29,810 [Ethan] These eight women 772 00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:34,510 were mothers, wives, 773 00:42:34,510 --> 00:42:38,590 girlfriends, nieces, 774 00:42:38,590 --> 00:42:41,670 they were people who were loved... 775 00:42:43,340 --> 00:42:47,720 ...and I think it's just incredibly important 776 00:42:47,720 --> 00:42:51,920 to remember that. 777 00:42:51,930 --> 00:42:53,430 I hoped that the book 778 00:42:53,430 --> 00:42:58,480 would provide a highly detailed 779 00:42:58,470 --> 00:43:00,260 and credible narrative 780 00:43:00,260 --> 00:43:04,550 about what actually happened to these women. 781 00:43:04,550 --> 00:43:06,630 I also hoped 782 00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:11,180 that there would be movement of some kind 783 00:43:11,180 --> 00:43:16,230 and the book could spur a new investigation. 784 00:43:18,970 --> 00:43:20,800 That never happened. 785 00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:28,850 [Millet] Out of courtesy and respect, 786 00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:33,800 for Sheriff Ivy Woods, I asked for a private meeting with him, 787 00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:37,470 and at that meeting, I informed him we had developed 788 00:43:37,470 --> 00:43:39,220 a lot of information that we feel like 789 00:43:39,220 --> 00:43:41,970 that the task force didn't have in the past. 790 00:43:41,970 --> 00:43:45,920 And the sheriff Woods was very cordial with me, very nice, 791 00:43:45,930 --> 00:43:49,480 and he told me he would get back in touch with me in a few days. 792 00:43:49,470 --> 00:43:52,050 That's been... two or three months ago. 793 00:43:52,050 --> 00:43:54,510 I haven't heard a word from him. 794 00:43:54,510 --> 00:43:55,880 [Devillier] I think there is someone 795 00:43:55,890 --> 00:43:58,810 that's in this chain, 796 00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:02,170 whether it's a chain from the sheriff down 797 00:44:02,180 --> 00:44:04,480 or the sheriff up, 798 00:44:04,470 --> 00:44:07,550 and they've encouraged him not to move forward. 799 00:44:07,550 --> 00:44:10,380 I went and talked to the FBI. 800 00:44:10,390 --> 00:44:11,680 The feeling that I got 801 00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:13,850 from the FBI agent that I spoke to 802 00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:16,380 was they were very interested and very excited, 803 00:44:16,390 --> 00:44:19,430 but nothing came of it. 804 00:44:19,430 --> 00:44:23,480 So, uh, for someone to be that excited with evidence 805 00:44:23,470 --> 00:44:25,800 that was presented to them, 806 00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:27,340 someone put a stop to it. 807 00:44:27,340 --> 00:44:29,510 We can all agree as we sit here today 808 00:44:29,510 --> 00:44:31,670 that we've pretty much run out of avenues. 809 00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:34,230 We've been to the people that should care, 810 00:44:34,220 --> 00:44:35,670 we've reached out to 'em 811 00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:37,680 with what we feel is good information, 812 00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:39,560 and just like you said, 813 00:44:39,550 --> 00:44:42,420 we've been treated with indifference. 814 00:44:42,430 --> 00:44:44,480 ♪ melancholy music ♪ 815 00:44:44,470 --> 00:44:46,550 ♪♪♪ 816 00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:02,550 [Cormier] Despite whatever's been said, 817 00:45:02,550 --> 00:45:04,050 or whatever people believe, 818 00:45:04,050 --> 00:45:06,380 all these eight cases are being worked. 819 00:45:06,390 --> 00:45:09,810 They're still active cases. 820 00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:11,970 I personally... 821 00:45:11,970 --> 00:45:14,880 feel that I'm-I'm letting the families down. 822 00:45:22,470 --> 00:45:25,470 But I can assure the-the families and the public 823 00:45:25,470 --> 00:45:27,970 that we will continue to work on these cases. 824 00:45:27,970 --> 00:45:31,920 We can't discuss a lot about information and events 825 00:45:31,930 --> 00:45:33,730 and how things occurred, 826 00:45:33,720 --> 00:45:37,170 but we're going to continue to do everything we can, 827 00:45:37,180 --> 00:45:41,600 and hopefully the public will also help as much as they can 828 00:45:41,590 --> 00:45:44,800 and be willing to work with us on this. 829 00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:46,590 [interviewer] Is there anything you can tell me 830 00:45:46,590 --> 00:45:48,510 about Frankie Richard? 831 00:45:48,510 --> 00:45:52,550 Frankie Richard remains a person of interest currently. 832 00:45:55,090 --> 00:45:57,340 ♪ slow, somber music ♪ 833 00:45:57,340 --> 00:45:58,880 [man] Frankie, there's only two things 834 00:45:58,890 --> 00:46:00,600 I need for you to do today. 835 00:46:00,590 --> 00:46:02,720 The first thing you got to do: cooperate. 836 00:46:02,720 --> 00:46:04,760 And the second thing you need to do with me 837 00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:08,420 is just tell me the truth 100%. 838 00:46:08,430 --> 00:46:11,810 All right, just relax for me, okay? 839 00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:18,800 [Ethan] You can look at 2005 to 2009 840 00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:21,420 as a specific time 841 00:46:21,430 --> 00:46:25,310 that has very deep 842 00:46:25,300 --> 00:46:28,170 misconduct in law enforcement, 843 00:46:28,180 --> 00:46:33,180 and has a singular character in Frankie Richard. 844 00:46:33,180 --> 00:46:35,480 [man] All right, need you to remain still. 845 00:46:35,470 --> 00:46:39,590 Look straight ahead, answer only yes or no. 846 00:46:39,590 --> 00:46:42,630 The test is about to begin. 847 00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:44,810 [Ethan] Frankie's insistence all along has been 848 00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:49,420 that he is not involved in any of the eight homicides, 849 00:46:49,430 --> 00:46:52,980 and that he has been unfairly implicated 850 00:46:52,970 --> 00:46:54,760 in these cases. 851 00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:58,920 That really has given him this great drive 852 00:46:58,930 --> 00:47:01,520 to want to clear his name. 853 00:47:01,510 --> 00:47:02,970 And even go as far 854 00:47:02,970 --> 00:47:06,590 as to want a polygraph on it. 855 00:47:06,590 --> 00:47:08,220 [man] Only answer yes or no 856 00:47:08,220 --> 00:47:10,010 to the questions I'm about to ask you. 857 00:47:10,010 --> 00:47:11,840 Is this the month of December? 858 00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:14,010 Yes. 859 00:47:17,010 --> 00:47:19,670 [Ethan] But when you speak to Frankie, 860 00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:24,060 it's like a tide that comes in 861 00:47:24,050 --> 00:47:27,550 but stops in a certain place. 862 00:47:27,550 --> 00:47:29,720 You know that there's more beyond 863 00:47:29,720 --> 00:47:32,720 where that tide sort of stops. 864 00:47:32,720 --> 00:47:34,050 [man] Regarding the murder of Kristen, 865 00:47:34,050 --> 00:47:35,470 do you intend to answer truthfully 866 00:47:35,470 --> 00:47:37,470 each question about that? 867 00:47:37,470 --> 00:47:39,880 Yes. 868 00:47:39,890 --> 00:47:42,770 ♪ suspenseful music ♪ 869 00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:45,220 [Ethan] When Kristen went missing, 870 00:47:45,220 --> 00:47:48,880 Tracee Chaisson initially told investigators 871 00:47:48,890 --> 00:47:52,930 that Frankie, and Frankie's goddaughter Hannah Connor, 872 00:47:52,930 --> 00:47:55,060 killed Kristen. 873 00:47:55,050 --> 00:47:57,300 [Tracee] I lied on Frankie. 874 00:47:57,300 --> 00:47:58,670 I lied on Frankie, and went back 875 00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:00,480 and told the people that I lied. 876 00:48:03,890 --> 00:48:06,060 [man] Did you help sell that truck? 877 00:48:06,050 --> 00:48:07,220 No. 878 00:48:10,220 --> 00:48:13,300 Did you participate in the dumping of Kristen's body? 879 00:48:13,300 --> 00:48:14,380 No. 880 00:48:14,390 --> 00:48:16,100 [birds cawing] 881 00:48:18,090 --> 00:48:20,550 [Hannah] I know Frankie 882 00:48:20,550 --> 00:48:22,550 was not involved with Kristen's death. 883 00:48:22,550 --> 00:48:23,920 I feel it in my soul 884 00:48:23,930 --> 00:48:25,600 that he has nothing to do with Kristen. 885 00:48:25,590 --> 00:48:27,170 [interviewer] You weren't with him that night? 886 00:48:27,180 --> 00:48:28,640 -No, I was not. -So you can't-- 887 00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:29,850 -I could-- -No, you can't tell me 888 00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:31,920 -with certainty that he wasn't-- -I could-- 889 00:48:31,930 --> 00:48:35,560 I could be wrong that Frankie was there. 890 00:48:35,550 --> 00:48:36,920 [interviewer] So what is the truth? 891 00:48:36,930 --> 00:48:38,680 The truth is I know nothing. 892 00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:42,720 [softly clears throat] 893 00:48:42,720 --> 00:48:45,260 [man] Did you physically harm Kristen? 894 00:48:45,260 --> 00:48:48,260 No. 895 00:48:50,510 --> 00:48:52,090 [man] The test is now over, please remain still 896 00:48:52,090 --> 00:48:54,970 while I take the instrument out of operation. 897 00:48:57,090 --> 00:48:58,840 [Ethan] From the first time that I met Frankie 898 00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:01,800 in a trailer in Breaux Bridge, 899 00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:04,300 the question has been 900 00:49:04,300 --> 00:49:06,630 why was Frankie Richard, 901 00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:09,890 a suspect in multiple homicides 902 00:49:09,890 --> 00:49:11,640 in Jeff Davis Parish, 903 00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:15,810 so freely and openly talking to me? 904 00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:17,840 And it's a question that, to be honest, 905 00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:20,130 I've never been able to resolve. 906 00:49:22,430 --> 00:49:24,980 [sighs] 907 00:49:24,970 --> 00:49:27,470 [man] Hate to be a bearer of bad news... 908 00:49:27,470 --> 00:49:29,670 inconclusive. 909 00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:33,810 Can't call it one way or the other at this point. 910 00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:42,340 [Ethan] Even now, 911 00:49:42,340 --> 00:49:43,880 I can't say for sure 912 00:49:43,890 --> 00:49:47,680 what does Frankie really know? 913 00:49:56,050 --> 00:49:58,670 [Frankie] I was... 914 00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:00,480 looking at this shit 915 00:50:00,470 --> 00:50:04,670 like poor, pitiful Frankie. 916 00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:06,390 They out to fucking get him. 917 00:50:06,390 --> 00:50:09,350 Well, they've been out to get me all my fucking life, you know? 918 00:50:09,340 --> 00:50:12,670 I just... 919 00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:15,890 thought about it for a while and said, 920 00:50:15,890 --> 00:50:17,890 "I'm gonna start fighting back." 921 00:50:17,890 --> 00:50:19,390 And that's what I'm doing. 922 00:50:19,390 --> 00:50:22,810 And sooner or later, 923 00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:24,670 everything... 924 00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:28,640 that we are sitting down talking about 925 00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:30,430 will come out. 926 00:50:30,430 --> 00:50:34,180 Somewhere down the line, the truth... 927 00:50:34,180 --> 00:50:36,730 will be known. 928 00:50:36,720 --> 00:50:39,050 Whatever it is. 929 00:50:44,090 --> 00:50:46,880 ♪ guitar music playing ♪ 930 00:50:46,890 --> 00:50:48,390 ♪♪♪ 931 00:50:48,390 --> 00:50:50,730 [Stacy] Heavenly Father and righteous God. 932 00:50:50,720 --> 00:50:52,880 ♪♪♪ 933 00:50:52,890 --> 00:50:55,100 Another day is upon us, Lord, 934 00:50:55,090 --> 00:50:59,090 and the sun is coming in through the windows. 935 00:50:59,090 --> 00:51:02,720 Just like clockwork, Lord, you... woke us up 936 00:51:02,720 --> 00:51:05,090 and started us on our way. 937 00:51:06,300 --> 00:51:09,420 We ask you to walk with us, Lord. 938 00:51:09,430 --> 00:51:13,020 Keep Satan, his devils, his demons and all away from us. 939 00:51:13,010 --> 00:51:16,130 Protect our children and our loved ones. 940 00:51:16,130 --> 00:51:18,920 Walk with us, Lord, as we stumble through 941 00:51:18,930 --> 00:51:20,810 in this world of sin. 942 00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:22,590 ♪ dramatic music ♪ 943 00:51:22,590 --> 00:51:25,090 ♪♪♪ 944 00:51:25,090 --> 00:51:28,420 There were eight young ladies 945 00:51:28,430 --> 00:51:31,680 that were killed in the area. 946 00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:33,930 And yet, today, 947 00:51:33,930 --> 00:51:36,310 they still don't have an answer 948 00:51:36,300 --> 00:51:39,720 to what has happened to those children. 949 00:51:39,720 --> 00:51:42,510 Some were white, some were black. 950 00:51:42,510 --> 00:51:44,840 They could have been trying to kill your daughter, 951 00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:46,970 your granddaughter. 952 00:51:46,970 --> 00:51:48,630 But thanks be to God, they didn't. 953 00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:52,230 But somebody's child got killed. 954 00:51:55,130 --> 00:51:58,090 [Teresa] It's ten years later. 955 00:51:58,090 --> 00:51:59,760 People may think 956 00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:03,010 that I forgot, 957 00:52:03,010 --> 00:52:04,970 that I just let it die 958 00:52:04,970 --> 00:52:07,970 and let it turn cold like y'all did. 959 00:52:09,390 --> 00:52:11,310 Not a chance in hell. 960 00:52:13,550 --> 00:52:16,300 Those are our fallen children. 961 00:52:18,180 --> 00:52:21,390 I feel like every street that every one of them children 962 00:52:21,390 --> 00:52:25,180 were found on, them streets ought to be named after them. 963 00:52:25,180 --> 00:52:28,020 It shouldn't be Keystone Road. 964 00:52:28,010 --> 00:52:31,300 It should be Brittney Ann Lane. 965 00:52:31,300 --> 00:52:34,300 Whitnei Dubois. 966 00:52:34,300 --> 00:52:37,340 LaConia Brown. 967 00:52:38,300 --> 00:52:40,260 Shay. 968 00:52:40,260 --> 00:52:41,840 Kristen. 969 00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:43,300 Loretta. 970 00:52:43,300 --> 00:52:45,340 Necole. 971 00:52:50,340 --> 00:52:53,880 [Kindra] I think all the girls have been forgotten, 972 00:52:53,890 --> 00:52:56,930 'cause it's like, nobody not talking about them no more. 973 00:52:58,510 --> 00:53:02,090 [Richard] At the time, everybody was scared. 974 00:53:02,090 --> 00:53:04,260 Now everybody's mad. 975 00:53:04,260 --> 00:53:07,800 I would like to see justice done, man. Really. 976 00:53:08,890 --> 00:53:11,640 Not only for Kristen, 977 00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:14,350 but the seven other girls. 978 00:53:20,390 --> 00:53:22,890 [woman's voice distorted] I was one of those girls. 979 00:53:22,890 --> 00:53:25,730 Running the streets. 980 00:53:25,720 --> 00:53:28,050 I'm doing this because I hope that maybe I could help 981 00:53:28,050 --> 00:53:30,630 just one, one in the future, 982 00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:33,850 or maybe make justice for Loretta. 983 00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:36,170 Anyone that speaks the way I have, 984 00:53:36,180 --> 00:53:37,350 I'm pretty sure they'll tell you the same thing, 985 00:53:37,340 --> 00:53:38,550 that they're afraid. 986 00:53:38,550 --> 00:53:42,380 There's a lot of people out there that know a lot more. 987 00:53:44,510 --> 00:53:49,090 And I really, really pray to God that they decide to talk. 988 00:53:50,340 --> 00:53:51,970 If somebody would just come forward, 989 00:53:51,970 --> 00:53:54,800 just one little piece of information is all they need, 990 00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:56,090 to the right person. 991 00:53:56,090 --> 00:53:58,630 But who's that right person? 992 00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:00,430 Who do you trust? 993 00:54:03,260 --> 00:54:05,590 The police know... 994 00:54:05,590 --> 00:54:07,840 somebody, 995 00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:12,300 one of them fuckers g-- that's gonna watch this, knows. 996 00:54:12,300 --> 00:54:14,720 One, two, three, four of 'em. 997 00:54:14,720 --> 00:54:16,920 They know. 998 00:54:21,180 --> 00:54:23,270 [wind whooshing] 999 00:54:26,180 --> 00:54:29,350 ♪ slow, somber music ♪ 1000 00:54:29,340 --> 00:54:32,380 [woman] I just don't understand how... 1001 00:54:32,390 --> 00:54:36,480 people can't take in consideration... 1002 00:54:38,970 --> 00:54:41,800 ...of other people's lives. 1003 00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:46,880 I don't see how people can act like people don't matter. 1004 00:54:55,390 --> 00:54:58,770 Everybody matters. Everybody... [sniffles] 1005 00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:01,130 ...should be cared about. 1006 00:55:03,090 --> 00:55:07,170 At the end of the day, nobody was there to help them. 1007 00:55:07,180 --> 00:55:09,680 Nobody was there to help the girls. 1008 00:55:13,590 --> 00:55:16,590 [Jessica] They knew it was happening. 1009 00:55:16,590 --> 00:55:19,970 They knew, one by one. 1010 00:55:19,970 --> 00:55:24,300 They really just didn't want nobody to get involved. 1011 00:55:24,300 --> 00:55:26,380 They didn't want nothing to happen to their family, 1012 00:55:26,390 --> 00:55:29,600 their friends, their loved ones. 1013 00:55:33,010 --> 00:55:35,510 But this ain't 2000 no more. 1014 00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:40,230 Somebody got to speak up. 1015 00:55:40,220 --> 00:55:43,880 Somebody got to be their voice. 1016 00:55:43,890 --> 00:55:46,180 Maybe other people will get the courage to step up 1017 00:55:46,180 --> 00:55:49,180 and speak on what they know. 1018 00:55:52,130 --> 00:55:54,800 It's just a wish. 1019 00:55:57,180 --> 00:56:00,060 Hopefully it comes true. 1020 00:56:00,050 --> 00:56:02,130 ♪♪♪ 76462

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