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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:14,080 [narrator] There are about 77 million documents 2 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:18,280 marked as Top Secret or Classified by the United States government. 3 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:22,520 Among the most sensitive of those, relating to top secret UFO programs, 4 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:26,280 and in particular, the encounters by US Air Force pilots 5 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:30,640 with the so-called Tic Tac UFO crafts in 2004. 6 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:35,280 By releasing unclassified United States government reports in 2018, 7 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:39,160 that include analysis regarding interactions with the Tic Tacs, 8 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:41,720 journalist George Knapp changed the game. 9 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:45,920 {\an8}I produced a document that was leaked from the government 10 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:48,920 {\an8}that did the first analysis of Tic Tac. 11 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:53,280 {\an8}It looked at all the sensor systems that were in the sky, from the ships, 12 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:56,480 under the sea, and they combined all that information 13 00:00:56,560 --> 00:00:59,240 to track the capabilities of the Tic Tac craft. 14 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:01,040 And they verified it. It was real. 15 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:03,520 The same thing was true for the Gimbal craft. 16 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:06,880 This information was never meant to be released to the public. 17 00:01:06,960 --> 00:01:09,920 The military did this analysis behind the scenes, 18 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:12,400 classified in a classified program. 19 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:14,400 The fact that it is now leaked out 20 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:17,320 has started the debate that we're having all over the world, 21 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:19,760 but the proof is pretty solid. 22 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:28,080 [narrator] How the US government will respond to these allegations 23 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:30,120 remains to be seen. 24 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:33,200 While in the first half of the 20th century, 25 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:36,400 the government was still seeking an appropriate strategy 26 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:38,200 to deal with UFO stories. 27 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:42,320 By the end of the millennium the way had become clear: 28 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:46,120 to investigate the phenomenon in absolute secrecy, 29 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:50,840 and if any information should leak out, it must be denied, 30 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:55,760 the trail obliterated, and evidence confiscated or discounted. 31 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:04,120 The government insisted that it's not there, it's not there, not there. 32 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:08,960 If some undeniable incident occurs, 33 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:11,800 it's going to make them look very bad. 34 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:16,600 {\an8}It's going to increase the kinds of negative consequences 35 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:18,560 {\an8}that would come from it. 36 00:02:18,640 --> 00:02:22,200 [Dolan] The US is great at making up false news stories 37 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:25,640 {\an8}and spreading them throughout the world. I mean, the CIA is a master of this. 38 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:26,960 {\an8}They've done this for decades. 39 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:30,480 They're very good also at using the media 40 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:33,440 to scare the public to engage in certain actions. 41 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:35,080 They do this all the time. 42 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:40,160 So they certainly would be able to do this about UFOs or UAP. 43 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:45,520 Like, they had the capability to, if they were to release information, 44 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:49,880 they could do it in such a way to maximize fear 45 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:53,480 to whatever level they want that would be useful for them. 46 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:57,760 {\an8}[theme music playing] 47 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:36,480 There are many testimonials from around the world 48 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:41,400 that information leaks to the media about UFO incidents are undesirable, 49 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:43,760 and that they have been covered up. 50 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:45,640 On the basis of these testimonies, 51 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:49,800 it can be reasonably assumed that some of these countries 52 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:53,320 will have secret agreements with the US intelligence services 53 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:57,880 who assist them in suppressing reports of UFO sightings. 54 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:04,360 {\an8}I was-- every single significant case, no matter what country, 55 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:07,240 {\an8}whether I had asked them to travel to America, 56 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:09,840 or whether I traveled to their place, they said, 57 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:12,320 "It's funny, right after the incident occurred, 58 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:15,480 there were two men in suits that showed up from some unknown agency 59 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:16,920 in the US government." 60 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:21,560 They have men on site at every one of these locations 61 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:23,280 that I personally have been. 62 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:25,520 And they're making inquiries. 63 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:28,040 They're trying to get an exchange of information. 64 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:30,000 They're trying to either silence witnesses, 65 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:32,680 get whatever evidence that was gathered in their country. 66 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:34,640 So they played a very large role. 67 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:38,640 [narrator] A prime example is one of the most remarkable cases 68 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:41,880 of UFO sightings in history. 69 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:44,840 {\an8}[intense music playing] 70 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:49,640 {\an8}1966, Westall, Melbourne, Australia. 71 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:57,600 During the midmorning break 72 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:00,400 at Westall High School in Melbourne, Australia, 73 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:02,240 there were almost 200 children 74 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:05,400 and school staff outside in the school grounds. 75 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:16,200 Suddenly, there was a commotion among the children outside, 76 00:05:16,280 --> 00:05:19,840 and those looking out the windows, gazing at the sky. 77 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:23,920 A disc-shaped UFO was hovering above them. 78 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:28,320 [tense music playing] 79 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:36,520 The chemistry teacher quickly took photos. 80 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:41,800 After some time, the vessel descended into a nearby pine grove. 81 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:45,000 {\an8}My whole vision 82 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:49,480 {\an8}was on trying to just look at what I was seeing in the sky 83 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:52,160 and take in every single detail I could. 84 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:58,920 There was a lot of noise apparently, because the kids were excited. 85 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:01,520 Some were frightened, whatever. 86 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:03,600 But I can just remember standing there, 87 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:05,960 because I'd never seen anything like that before, 88 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:08,280 and I wanted to take in as much as I could 89 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:12,720 because wow, this was just amazing, just amazing. 90 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:18,240 [narrator] Fourteen-year-old student Marilyn Smith ran to the landing site. 91 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:22,200 By the time she got there, the UFO had taken off. 92 00:06:22,280 --> 00:06:26,480 Marilyn's friend Tanya later fell unconscious 93 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:29,160 and was taken away by an ambulance. 94 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:34,600 Witnesses described one big flying disc and two smaller accompanying vessels. 95 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:39,400 The larger vessel left behind a circle in the grass. 96 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:42,280 TV crews quickly arrived on the scene. 97 00:06:42,840 --> 00:06:45,760 Channel 9 TV filmed interviews with students, 98 00:06:45,840 --> 00:06:48,920 and journalists interviewed witnesses as well. 99 00:06:51,280 --> 00:06:53,600 And then, came the cover-up. 100 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:57,000 The Channel 9 TV report was never broadcast, 101 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:00,920 and no one ever saw the photographs that were taken. 102 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:05,960 An interview with a student, Joy Tighe, in which she described the UFOs 103 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:09,560 disappeared from the GTV archive. 104 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:11,080 All this, 105 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:15,320 after some mysterious plain clothes officials and soldiers arrived. 106 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:20,000 When they left, a lot of the evidence vanished with them. 107 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:24,960 The grass at the landing site was quickly cut and restored to normal. 108 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:29,680 One week after the incident, the Dandenong Journal claimed 109 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:32,200 that the situation could not be explained 110 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:35,760 because there were no witnesses willing to speak about it. 111 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:43,080 {\an8}They weren't allowed to speak about it anymore. 112 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:44,600 {\an8}Even the teachers were warned. 113 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:47,280 {\an8}There were government officials that came and told them 114 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:48,680 {\an8}they couldn't speak about it. 115 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:51,640 And even the news media that followed the story, 116 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:54,920 when they went back to look at the files, all the files were gone. 117 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:57,040 They were taken. 118 00:07:58,280 --> 00:07:59,960 [Clarke] All we want is an answer. 119 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:02,840 All we want is for someone to say to us, 120 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:06,720 that "Yes, we know what-- that did happen that day." 121 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:09,040 "It was a very extraordinary experience, 122 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:11,800 but something definitely did happen that day." 123 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:13,640 "It wasn't in your imagination." 124 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:16,440 "You weren't on drugs. You weren't drunk. It happened." 125 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:23,280 {\an8}[narrator] More than 50 years later, witnesses have preserved the images 126 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:26,120 {\an8}from the children's memory, and about how government officials 127 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:29,920 tried to erase all signs of the incident. 128 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:34,520 The teacher who took the photographs had her camera confiscated, 129 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:38,160 and for a long time was threatened with having her career ruined 130 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:41,080 if she ever spoke about the incident. 131 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:47,760 So this was a government making sure that this wasn't talked about, 132 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:51,720 and even the headmaster was shut down, and that-- that's what happened. 133 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:54,000 And we know this happened, we know that. 134 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:58,400 They were like flying saucers and that's what we used to call them in those days, 135 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:00,680 you know, in comic books, and all that sort of stuff. 136 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:04,000 That's what they were, so we called them flying saucers. 137 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:06,680 [narrator] But the frontline effort to cover up the incident 138 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:08,560 by deleting all records, 139 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:10,040 silencing witnesses, 140 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:12,160 and confiscating photographs 141 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:15,080 was not 100% successful. 142 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:16,440 There is actually evidence. 143 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:18,760 There was a Polaroid camera, 144 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:24,240 a guy that shot a photograph of it two days prior, 17 kilometers away. 145 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:28,040 And it was-- performed exactly like the children said it performed, 146 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:32,000 right down to the point where it pivots up like this and rockets away. 147 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:35,040 [narrator] A young engineer from the suburb of Balwyn 148 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:37,800 took the picture of the event from his garden. 149 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:43,000 They show a metallic-like UFO tipped vertically on its side. 150 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:47,320 The Victorian Flying Saucer Research Society 151 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:50,280 very carefully analyzed the photograph, 152 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:55,720 and they concluded the photo showed no sign of multiple exposure, 153 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:58,400 montage, or any other tampering. 154 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:04,680 The strategy of rapid response to leaked information about UFO incidents 155 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:08,000 was established in the 1950s during Project Blue Book. 156 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:13,000 Techniques of manipulation and cover-up were improved over time, 157 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:16,240 and have since been developed almost to perfection. 158 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:23,160 [man] So it's not surprising they were able to get people on board, 159 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:24,720 and the institutions. 160 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:26,880 And then, as things went forward, 161 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:29,840 {\an8}they had to deal with increasing developments, 162 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:32,280 {\an8}and research, and evidence, 163 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:34,920 {\an8}and they developed more skills. 164 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:39,240 And they applied everything they had at their disposal 165 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:44,400 to keep this issue from ever formally being confirmed. 166 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:46,160 That's the Truth Embargo. 167 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:50,360 [narrator] However, a unique case of an uncontrollable information leak 168 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:55,080 about UFO sightings is the Cash-Landrum incident from 1980, 169 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:57,560 which could not be entirely discredited, 170 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:00,600 because the witnesses took an unprecedented step 171 00:11:00,680 --> 00:11:03,320 of taking the matter to court. 172 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:10,880 {\an8}December 29, 1980, near the small town of Huffman, Texas. 173 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:17,560 Betty Cash, Vickie Landrum, and her seven-year-old grandson Colby 174 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:21,760 are returning home along the road to Dayton, Texas at night. 175 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:30,040 When suddenly, a bright light appears among the trees. 176 00:11:34,560 --> 00:11:39,280 After a few bends further along the road, a diamond shape appears 177 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:42,920 about 15 meters high at a level of the treetops. 178 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:47,720 Vickie, a devout Christian, 179 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:50,480 believes it is the second coming of Jesus Christ. 180 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:54,320 She and Betty got out of the car to see the object, 181 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:56,120 and to welcome Christ. 182 00:11:59,880 --> 00:12:01,960 Flames are shooting from the bottom of the vessel, 183 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:05,760 and the car and surroundings become very hot. 184 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:16,800 {\an8}The object lit up the surrounding pine woods like it was daylight. 185 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:19,360 I was burning, my skin was burning. 186 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:22,400 Fire was coming out of the bottom like a blowtorch. 187 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:24,920 It lifted up and then flew over the trees. 188 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:27,680 {\an8}That was when we saw the helicopters come out. 189 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:28,800 {\an8}The helicopters? 190 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:31,240 [Cash] Colby counted 23 of them. 191 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:34,920 [Landrum] Yes. It seemed that they were trying to escort the craft somewhere. 192 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:37,800 It looked like they were about to collide. 193 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:39,960 The roar sounded like a tornado. 194 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:44,040 When we got home, I washed Colby off, and put him to bed. 195 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:48,160 When the water touched his skin, he cried out like he had been burned, 196 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:51,440 as if he had been in the sun too long. 197 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:57,960 [narrator] That evening, Betty, Vickie, and Colby suffer from nausea, 198 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:01,440 resembling symptoms of exposure to radiation. 199 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:05,240 And I was too sick to work the next day. 200 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:09,080 My eyes swelled closed, and welts appeared on my face and head. 201 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:10,800 I thought I was going to die. 202 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:14,080 Vickie came and took me to the emergency room at the hospital. 203 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:16,840 They treated me like a burn patient. 204 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:21,920 Over the next few days, I kept losing big patches of skin on my face, 205 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:24,520 and about half of my hair fell out. 206 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:28,240 They kept me in the hospital over a month with no improvement. 207 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:32,200 [narrator] April 1981, 208 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:35,600 a CH-47 helicopter landed in Dayton 209 00:13:35,680 --> 00:13:38,200 and was greeted by curious townspeople. 210 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:45,720 The pilot mentions that he had been in Dayton a year earlier 211 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:48,000 pursuing an unknown vessel. 212 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:49,640 But as soon as he finds out 213 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:52,880 that eyewitnesses to the event are among the crowd, 214 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:55,400 he quickly ends the discussion. 215 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:02,880 {\an8}In this field that we're in, they're going to be more witnesses, 216 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:05,560 but it's still not enough. It's still not good enough. 217 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:08,920 So it doesn't matter how much proof anybody has, it's not good enough. 218 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:13,280 If it's too mind-blowing or too difficult to accept as reality, 219 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:14,840 in a court of law it wouldn't work. 220 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:17,040 Yeah. There's witnesses. Oh, yeah. There's evidence. 221 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:20,440 There's marks, there's um, places, locations, this and that. 222 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:22,840 There's stories. There's books that have been written. 223 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:26,360 There's, there's more evidence than we can possibly imagine. 224 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:29,360 What people have to stop doing is saying, "Where's the proof?" 225 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:31,200 Because the proof is already there. 226 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:33,200 {\an8}Has the government ever expressed a willingness 227 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:35,040 {\an8}to take responsibility for this thing? 228 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:39,720 {\an8}No, and I am mad. I'm mad as hell and disappointed with the government 229 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:41,160 of our United States. 230 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:46,920 [narrator] Betty Cash and Vickie Landrum eventually sued Bergstrom Air Force Base 231 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:49,240 for $20 million in damages. 232 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:54,080 But in 1986, a district court judge dismissed the lawsuit 233 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:57,000 because the helicopters involved had not been proven 234 00:14:57,080 --> 00:14:59,280 as belonging to the US government. 235 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:02,160 Furthermore, military officers denied in court 236 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:04,280 that the United States Armed Forces 237 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:07,360 possessed a diamond-shaped aircraft of any kind. 238 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:11,560 {\an8}But many years later, Richard Dotty, 239 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:15,160 {\an8}a former government agent of the Office of Special Investigations, 240 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:17,960 {\an8}declared that it did exist, 241 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:19,800 and it was a prototype vessel 242 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:25,480 from a secret reverse engineering program experimenting with nuclear propulsion. 243 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:28,400 A problem with the aircraft reportedly occurred, 244 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:34,080 and Cash and Landrum just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. 245 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:36,960 There's been numerous crashed craft around the world, 246 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:39,760 and I believe that that technology was something 247 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:42,560 that they wanted to keep secret for their own purposes. 248 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:45,280 I think this is why they're doing it around the world, 249 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:48,800 because that technology could change the way that we are living now. 250 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:52,640 And I believe those that have this technology 251 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:55,120 are only going to utilize it for their own benefit. 252 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:59,120 So there's lots of reasons why it suits them to keep this quiet. 253 00:15:59,920 --> 00:16:04,360 Over the years, there have been a number of instances where leaks have come out, 254 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:06,760 or at least what seem to be genuine leaks. 255 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:08,560 One is the Gary McKinnon case. 256 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:11,280 [mysterious music playing] 257 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:15,920 [narrator] The case of the most infamous government database hacker, Gary McKinnon, 258 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:20,440 is highly significant since it is the most concrete information we have 259 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:24,360 about the existence of a secret UFO program. 260 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:29,840 [Dolan] He didn't exactly hack in. 261 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:34,200 That's not quite accurate to say that he was a hacker. 262 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:37,200 He created, I think he called it a Perl script, 263 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:42,440 where he was able to find sites within that web 264 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:46,160 that either had no password or had "password" as their password. 265 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:50,920 Cybersecurity was really lax. But this is the late 1990s. 266 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:53,520 [narrator] This is why Gary McKinnon's attempt 267 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:56,240 to download the photo was unsuccessful. 268 00:16:56,320 --> 00:17:01,160 His connection was able to be intercepted just in time by the government, 269 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:02,720 and the photo deleted. 270 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:07,680 But that didn't prevent the story from breaking into a blaze of publicity. 271 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:14,760 {\an8}February 2001, London. 272 00:17:17,120 --> 00:17:20,400 When Gary McKinnon sat down at his computer in London 273 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:24,480 in February of 2001, to launch what was later described 274 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:29,080 as "the greatest hack of the century," he was inspired by witnessing something 275 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:32,320 in the night sky at the age of 13, 276 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:36,280 something that had profoundly affected him. 277 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:42,320 Gary had witnessed a glowing, orange shape moving in a way that left him in no doubt 278 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:47,320 that he was not observing a natural phenomenon, or terrestrial craft. 279 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:52,720 A few months after the 9/11 terrorist attacks on the New York Twin Towers, 280 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:56,880 the following message appeared on one of the Pentagon's computers: 281 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:00,280 "Your security system is crap." 282 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:02,680 "I am Solo." 283 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:06,600 "I will continue to disrupt the highest levels." 284 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:10,640 The Pentagon was suddenly on high alert. 285 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:13,840 What I was doing was illegal, 286 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:15,880 {\an8}but at the time I felt that it was morally right 287 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:18,640 {\an8}in view of getting this technology, getting it out to the public. 288 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:21,440 {\an8}And it was actually easy getting into the Pentagon. 289 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:22,880 I scanned for blank passwords. 290 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:26,320 I'm not some great big computer, you know, criminal mastermind. 291 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:30,800 [narrator] Between February 2001 and March 2002, 292 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:36,400 an unknown assailant calling himself Solo, in fact, McKinnon's alias, 293 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:39,720 managed to copy data from about 100 computers 294 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:42,800 belonging to various departments of the US military. 295 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:46,000 He copied data and passwords for months. 296 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:49,640 I was looking for evidence of UFO technology. 297 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:51,800 And I know that's laughed at by a lot of people, 298 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:56,160 but I was working from witness testimony of a group called The Disclosure Project. 299 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:58,880 Four hundred military witnesses, some ex-military, 300 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:00,240 some still current at the time. 301 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:04,160 Anything all the way up from radar, the air traffic controllers, 302 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:07,560 all the way up to strategic air command, you know, very credible people. 303 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:11,440 They all said that, "Yes, UFOs were real. Yes, they were extraterrestrial." 304 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:15,560 And in addition to that, rogue elements of military and intelligence 305 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:19,440 had captured and reverse engineered some of the technology, 306 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:21,680 and they had a free energy technology. 307 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:24,160 And, you know, in these days of oil crisis and stuff, 308 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:25,560 I found that hugely interesting. 309 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:27,760 I thought it was morally correct to break the law 310 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:29,920 in order to get the technology out to the public. 311 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:32,640 [narrator] Despite using an alias, 312 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:35,880 Gary made no other attempts to cover his tracks. 313 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:38,680 He wanted what he had learned to come out. 314 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:42,520 He was arrested by the United Kingdom's National Hi-Tech Crime Unit 315 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:44,640 in March of 2002. 316 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:47,080 We learn that his primary goal 317 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:50,040 was to discover classified information about UFOs 318 00:19:50,120 --> 00:19:53,280 from the US Defense Department and NASA servers. 319 00:19:53,360 --> 00:19:57,800 {\an8}He successfully engaged some top secret files, 320 00:19:57,880 --> 00:19:59,800 {\an8}and they were bigger than that. 321 00:19:59,880 --> 00:20:04,480 {\an8}And it was strange what he was reporting. 322 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:07,600 It should have been ridiculous, 323 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:09,880 except some of this is coming out. 324 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:12,080 It's just that in, in my own country, 325 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:16,440 the punishment for unauthorized access is, you know, six months in prison, 326 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:18,600 or I think a year maximum. 327 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:23,520 And I think the US authorities have been extremely heavy-handed. 328 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:28,040 And even now, they've got to the point where I'm officially referenced to 329 00:20:28,120 --> 00:20:31,760 as a terrorist in official Army training manuals 330 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:36,480 for combating terrorism in the 21st century. 331 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:38,760 I think Gary had it exactly right. 332 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:42,080 So he saw ships connected to the US Navy 333 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:44,480 that were not part of the United States Navy 334 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:46,440 of any inventory that we know of. 335 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:51,760 And something called a ship of a non, list of non-terrestrial officers, 336 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:53,600 which was quite interesting. 337 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:56,680 The real key to the Gary McKinnon case is how the US tried 338 00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:59,960 to extradite him for more than a decade, 339 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:02,840 {\an8}and really tried to ruin his life. 340 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:08,360 Um, fortunately for Gary, he was not extradited, and the British government 341 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:12,120 was able to defend him against extradition. 342 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:14,840 [narrator] Clearly, there is a difference between hacking 343 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:17,400 into government computer servers and databases, 344 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:21,760 and being in receipt of the same information from a trusted source 345 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:24,000 within the secret programs themselves. 346 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:30,240 Even then, we would be just talking about fragments since government departments 347 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:35,160 are so skilled at compartmentalizing their activities and minimizing the risk 348 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:41,160 of any one potential source or employee being able to see the whole picture. 349 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:45,600 {\an8}When I had a clearance, there were programs I'd be in where I would have 350 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:47,800 {\an8}a lot of information about a certain thing. 351 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:49,120 It's like a pyramid. 352 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:53,560 The more you know, the farther up this pyramid you go, okay, in clearance. 353 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:56,000 When you're here, you see this much stuff. 354 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:59,400 When you're here at the top, you only get this little tiny bit. Okay? 355 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:01,640 And the next pyramid over of another program 356 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:05,360 that might be looking at a similar thing such as a UFO system, 357 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:07,080 or-- that's flying around, 358 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:08,600 they're up at the top too. 359 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:10,680 They never see your top of your pyramid. 360 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:12,360 {\an8}So they don't know the big picture. 361 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:14,520 {\an8}That's one way they can compartmentalize it. 362 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:16,880 {\an8}They can keep a secret when they can-- when they want to. 363 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:20,240 So when they really want to keep a secret, they can do it, 364 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:21,680 and they compartmentalize it. 365 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:25,560 [Dolan] When someone claims that he goes to Mars for 20 years, 366 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:28,480 and as time regressed, and age regressed back, 367 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:31,240 he's able to say that because it's clearly not true 368 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:33,480 and he's making up a series of fantasies. 369 00:22:34,120 --> 00:22:35,480 So that's one thing. 370 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:39,800 Um, but for legitimate information, we have to ask, 371 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:41,760 "Well, why does any of it come out?" 372 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:45,360 Well, in general, we have to say that most of it never comes out, right? 373 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:48,720 So… most of the information within that community 374 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:52,440 is still very tightly controlled. Absolutely. 375 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:55,640 [narrator] In the same year that the British and American authorities 376 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:58,520 are negotiating the extradition of Gary McKinnon, 377 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:00,320 another information leak occurs. 378 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:06,120 The world learns incredible facts from 15 pages of notes from a dialogue 379 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:10,360 between a highly respected scientist and a high ranking official 380 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:13,440 in US Military and National Security. 381 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:20,560 Many refer to this Autumn 2002 event as "the most significant UFO leak ever." 382 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:24,360 It all began when three men decided to draw the attention 383 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:29,400 of a high-ranking Pentagon official to a secret UFO program. 384 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:32,840 {\an8}I came here to Washington with a Navy commander 385 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:37,120 {\an8}by the name of Will Miller, and Dr. Steven Greer. 386 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:41,040 And we were able to get an appointment at the Pentagon 387 00:23:41,120 --> 00:23:44,400 to talk about what we knew, or what we allegedly knew, 388 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:45,480 what we thought we knew. 389 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:47,920 {\an8}And went and told our story. 390 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:52,280 {\an8}The admiral said, "Well, I don't know that story." 391 00:23:52,360 --> 00:23:55,560 {\an8}"I don't know that that's true, but I will find out." 392 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:58,360 {\an8}[intense music playing] 393 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:02,160 {\an8}[narrator] October 2002, Las Vegas. 394 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:08,200 Physicist Eric Davis, a specialist, among other things, 395 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:13,520 in advanced military technologies, arrives at the EG&G building 396 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:17,200 near the intersection of Grier Drive and Paradise Road 397 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:19,520 at exactly ten o'clock in the morning. 398 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:23,880 Another car then arrives with Admiral Thomas Wilson, 399 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:25,640 dressed in civilian clothes. 400 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:29,200 Wilson, in his fifties with an extraordinary career 401 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:31,320 in the United States Navy behind him, 402 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:33,320 and just a few months earlier, 403 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:36,960 the Director of the Defense Intelligence Agency. 404 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:41,680 He is accompanied by two men in Navy uniforms. 405 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:43,920 Wilson gets into Davis's car, 406 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:47,400 and they spend about an hour talking in the back seat. 407 00:24:48,120 --> 00:24:53,160 Later, Eric Davis reconstructs the dialogue into a 15-page document, 408 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:56,320 containing devastating evidence about the extent 409 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,360 of government-led UFO cover-ups. 410 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:03,000 [Wilson] "They weren't going to let me in the door." 411 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:07,840 "They wouldn't accept my arguments that they fell under my statutory oversight 412 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:11,640 and regulatory authority as Deputy Director DIA." 413 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:17,240 [narrator] Wilson describes how he, an admiral in the US Navy, 414 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:20,960 was denied access to all but a fragment of information 415 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:22,960 about the top secret program, 416 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:25,720 and that on the list of people granted oversight, 417 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:28,160 there was no one from the White House, 418 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:32,240 or even from Congress, or any elected official. 419 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:35,600 It was not a weapons program, nor an intelligence program. 420 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:38,720 It was something entirely different. 421 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:45,640 {\an8}The private industry is very interested in UFO technology. 422 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:50,280 {\an8}Eric Davis being the employee of Robert Bigelow 423 00:25:50,360 --> 00:25:54,240 and Robert Bigelow is, of course, the famous billionaire 424 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:57,120 who has been investigating 425 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:01,560 strange paranormal phenomena for decades, 426 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:03,480 also for the Pentagon. 427 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:06,880 Eric Davis is an important scientist. 428 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,480 And they'd all been interested in… 429 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:13,920 {\an8}"What do the other corporations know?" 430 00:26:15,360 --> 00:26:17,480 [narrator] As the conversation progressed, 431 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:21,880 Wilson revealed his concerns over the work within the top secret program. 432 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:25,040 [Davis] "What were they then?" 433 00:26:25,120 --> 00:26:27,960 [Wilson] "They were a reverse engineering program." 434 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,880 "Something recovered years ago in the past." 435 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,960 "Program manager said they didn't know where it was from." 436 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:36,680 "It was technology that was not of this Earth, 437 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:40,760 not made by man, not by human hands." 438 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:45,320 [Fleischer] So if it's true that private corporations are in the possession 439 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:50,680 of extraterrestrial remnants of whatever origin, whatever kind, 440 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:54,920 then it is also logical to assume that other private companies 441 00:26:55,000 --> 00:27:01,440 who want to build that stuff may also be interested in knowing "What do they know?" 442 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:03,120 It's just logical. 443 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:07,720 [narrator] Davis kept asking questions, but the more questions he asked, 444 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:09,200 the less answers he got. 445 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:14,120 Eventually, he began threatening the men, which ended the meeting prematurely. 446 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:16,360 [Davis] "Did you deal with it somehow?" 447 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:19,800 "Turned to Special Access Programme Oversight Committee." 448 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:21,120 "I was very angry." 449 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:22,720 "Result?" 450 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:27,440 "If I didn't follow their suggestion then I would not see Director DIA promotion, 451 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:32,040 get early retirement, lose one or two stars along the way." 452 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:34,160 And it was really difficult, 453 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:38,600 he names the exact department where he got information about this program. 454 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:42,240 Eventually, they invite him to their facility, 455 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:47,200 but just to tell him that he has no access, and that he is not in charge. 456 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:50,120 And they didn't let him inspect the site. 457 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,800 They didn't let him inspect the project. 458 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,560 [narrator] Although Wilson never got inside the program, 459 00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:59,440 this recording of the interview 460 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:05,120 contains so many details and names that most UFO researchers and investigators 461 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,240 consider it entirely credible. 462 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:11,880 It confirms there is a deeply classified program 463 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,240 hidden in the network of the Defense Department, 464 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:17,680 whose purpose was, and perhaps still is, 465 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,720 the study of extraterrestrial technology. 466 00:28:23,120 --> 00:28:29,160 {\an8}I think there's some interesting evidence for this theory that within government 467 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:30,960 there are different factions. 468 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:34,640 So government is not a single entity 469 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:39,240 moving with one single common purpose. 470 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:42,560 [man] So you have competing groups, I think, within the government. 471 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:46,680 {\an8}There may be one group that wants all this information to come out, 472 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:48,960 {\an8}and they're being fought by another group. 473 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:55,240 {\an8}Governments and corporations don't mind me talking about extraterrestrials, 474 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:57,320 {\an8}or the underground facilities. 475 00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:01,000 And they really don't like me talking about over unity devices 476 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:02,040 and zero-point energy, 477 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:06,600 which I had laboratories that were making these devices as well. 478 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:11,120 So all day long, I can talk about ETs because there's no money being made 479 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,520 talking about ETs for them. 480 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,840 And they don't believe anyone's going to believe this anyway. 481 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:21,880 They don't care what you know. They care what you can prove. 482 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:23,200 That's how this game works. 483 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:28,440 [narrator] The insiders or whistleblowers are mostly former participants 484 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:31,160 in these secret UFO programs. 485 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:34,360 {\an8}One such individual was Emery Smith. 486 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:38,400 As a US Air Force Surgical Assistant, 487 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:40,440 he claims to have worked undercover 488 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:44,920 on projects relating to the examination of extraterrestrial life. 489 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:50,040 Smith described in detail how he participated in the autopsies 490 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:54,880 of extraterrestrial corpses, and how strictly the program was guarded. 491 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,320 {\an8}Emery Smith is a good example 492 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:05,840 {\an8}of someone who, when he joined the US military, 493 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:09,720 was given an option of becoming part of a black program. 494 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:14,960 And then, when he did that black program, he did that side by side 495 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:17,080 with his normal military service. 496 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:21,040 Because this is often the way in which, in the United States, it's done. 497 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:25,120 Military recruits are basically given the option 498 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:30,120 to do some additional work on top of their regular assignment, 499 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,720 and that would involve extraterrestrials. 500 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:40,080 {\an8}[narrator] Kirtland Air Force Base, New Mexico, 1990 through 1998. 501 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:45,080 [Smith] There's a facility called Sandia Labs, 502 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:47,560 and Sandia National Laboratories 503 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:49,160 is another, um, 504 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:53,240 government-controlled corporation 505 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:56,200 uh, that does a lot of amazing things. 506 00:30:56,280 --> 00:31:01,440 But under that facility, and now, that's a base inside a military base. 507 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:05,480 So it's like double security. 508 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:10,720 And below that, that building and that little base 509 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:12,720 is a whole underground facility. 510 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:18,840 [narrator] Young Emery would enter the building 511 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:20,960 through highly sensitive identification 512 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,560 and security scanning gates. 513 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:27,760 Specially trained dogs were able to recognize if the person entering 514 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:30,680 had an infectious or cancerous disease. 515 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:35,040 Everyone who passed through the multistage screening 516 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:37,480 received a special computer tablet 517 00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:42,280 containing all the information necessary to navigate the underground lab, 518 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:46,400 and to avoid any paper documents in or out. 519 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:50,280 In the early 1990s, at a special laboratory 520 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:53,160 where Emery usually dissected biological tissues 521 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,080 from humans and animal remains, 522 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:58,000 an arm lay on the autopsy table. 523 00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,880 Emery was convinced that this arm 524 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:04,680 didn't belong to a human or was of this planet. 525 00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:17,760 [Smith] I was amazed to see this arm with this hand, with color, 526 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:21,000 and this blue iridescent field. It was so beautiful. 527 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:26,560 And what was so interesting is they didn't even tell me what I was supposed to do 528 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:28,320 until I got in there. 529 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:31,240 They wanted to see how I was going to react. 530 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:34,160 and if I would be a good agent to keep my mouth shut, 531 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,520 and that's all that was for. 532 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:39,320 And then, I found out later that that arm 533 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:42,720 was synthetic. It was a fake. 534 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:46,640 [narrator] Emery, as he claims, passed the test, 535 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,520 and gradually became a specialist in autopsies, 536 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:54,560 retrieving and analyzing tissue samples from extraterrestrial corpses. 537 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:57,800 He became part of the government's inner sanctum 538 00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:00,200 of closely guarded secrets 539 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:03,080 on extraterrestrials and UFOs. 540 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:07,600 There's many different kinds of extraterrestrials out there 541 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,840 with many different kinds of looks. 542 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:15,640 The one thing they all have in common is they all have human DNA in them. 543 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:21,160 The second thing is they all have a head, two arms, and two legs. 544 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:25,720 The five star, you know, pointed system of the universe, 545 00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:27,560 which is very fascinating. 546 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:32,200 [narrator] He soon gained the trust of his superiors, 547 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:36,720 receiving special permission to access the laboratory's secret archive. 548 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:41,000 As he describes it today, it was so extraordinary 549 00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:44,760 that he became addicted to going there and discovering information 550 00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:46,560 that was forbidden to others. 551 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:53,920 [Smith] This is a giant room made up of eight large pool, like pool tables 552 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,320 about that size, and they were white. 553 00:33:56,400 --> 00:34:00,400 And they-- you can access this with your hand or your voice, 554 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:03,240 and the AI knows who you are. 555 00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:06,400 And you have a band on you, they know where you're at all the time 556 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:07,880 inside the facilities. 557 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:11,920 They know if your heart rate goes up, they know everything. 558 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:17,640 So when you're in the library, you can request anything that has to do 559 00:34:17,720 --> 00:34:22,480 with your project, or a future project, or extraterrestrial, or craft, 560 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:24,720 or device that you're going to be working on. 561 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,160 [narrator] The library gave him access 562 00:34:27,240 --> 00:34:30,040 to all the sensitive and closely guarded information 563 00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,680 relating to extraterrestrial monitoring work, 564 00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:34,600 and the secret space program. 565 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:39,680 And it also offered a completely different perspective on what we perceive 566 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:43,880 as established and unchanging in our solar system. 567 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:49,120 He claims that he even saw the interstellar highway system. 568 00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:52,560 In effect, a map to the stars. 569 00:34:54,000 --> 00:35:00,720 So the library was just an amazing concept for me to get in and see things 570 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,000 like the moon, for instance. 571 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:08,280 There was a great model of the moon three-dimensionally that you can open up 572 00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:10,480 and look inside, and you know, 573 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:16,080 the moon turned out being something I didn't realize what it really was. 574 00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:20,120 [narrator] The question arises: 575 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:24,200 how it is possible that a person can keep something so extraordinary to himself 576 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:29,600 for so many years and why he has chosen to share it now? 577 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:34,520 Well, what had happened is I had to come forward just recently 578 00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:36,760 within the last couple of years 579 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:41,120 because I was working with some over unity devices, 580 00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:43,720 and someone leaked some information at the lab. 581 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:46,760 And it just got a little scary. 582 00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:53,800 So I have been kept behind the scenes for, you know, 27 years now, 583 00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,000 but I've been coming to events, 584 00:35:56,080 --> 00:36:00,800 and I've been an insider for many of my colleagues here for over a decade. 585 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:05,640 I think not everyone within the military industrial complex supports disclosure. 586 00:36:05,720 --> 00:36:09,400 There are some groups that want to keep the secrecy for another 50 years. 587 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:12,720 [narrator] But will their attempts be successful? 588 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:16,400 Or is the genie already out of the bottle? 589 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:21,360 A completely different attempt, this time not to obtain information, 590 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:25,040 {\an8}but to declassify the content of secret programs, 591 00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:29,080 was leaked to the public in March 2016. 592 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:34,160 Russian hackers send a phishing email to John Podesta, 593 00:36:34,240 --> 00:36:38,240 who was, at the time, Hillary Clinton's campaign chairman. 594 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:42,840 {\an8}Subsequent opening of the Podesta mail allows the hackers to access 595 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:46,920 approximately 60,000 private emails. 596 00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:51,680 Many of these, of course, related to the Clinton presidential campaign. 597 00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:55,520 But some of them related to something entirely different. 598 00:36:56,360 --> 00:37:02,560 {\an8}When news emerged that John Podesta's email had been hacked, 599 00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:07,760 obviously, everyone was interested in all sorts of different aspects of it. 600 00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:11,600 But the surprising aspect was apparent communication 601 00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:16,840 between Tom DeLonge and John Podesta about UFOs. 602 00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:19,280 {\an8}[narrator] Private emails from Hillary Clinton's adviser 603 00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:20,720 {\an8}posted on WikiLeaks 604 00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:26,960 {\an8}prove that former Blink-182 singer Tom DeLonge did contact Podesta, 605 00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:31,760 undoubtedly with the purposeful intention of developing mutual cooperation 606 00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:35,240 on release of UFO information. 607 00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:40,800 Tom DeLonge is a very nice guy. He is deeply involved in the UFO subject. 608 00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:45,520 He's also very familiar with virtually everything you need to know about it. 609 00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:48,080 And he's had some very interesting contacts 610 00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:51,120 in the US intelligence community. 611 00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:53,120 [narrator] As well as being 612 00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:55,560 Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign manager, 613 00:37:55,640 --> 00:38:00,720 John Podesta's abiding interest in the UFO phenomenon was so well known 614 00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:05,120 that he was nicknamed "the X-Files man" in Bill Clinton's White House. 615 00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:09,440 The discovery of these emails reinforced the impression 616 00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:12,040 that Podesta could have been an active link 617 00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:15,920 between the White House and the emerging group of government officials 618 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,520 associated with the UFO phenomenon. 619 00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:22,480 I think what you can see from those WikiLeaks emails 620 00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:29,200 is that Tom DeLonge had been preparing a huge thing together with John Podesta. 621 00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:33,520 How do you say, this multichannel marketing approach with books, series, 622 00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:39,720 TV shows, feature film, stuff like that. 623 00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,760 And he had the interest of John Podesta. 624 00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:45,440 [narrator] With Hillary Clinton's defeat to Donald Trump 625 00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:47,840 in the 2016 presidential election, 626 00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:52,680 the proposed link between DeLonge and the To The Stars… Academy 627 00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:55,880 and the Clinton White House was no longer achievable. 628 00:38:56,600 --> 00:39:00,120 They, therefore, had to select an alternative plan 629 00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:04,040 to get the information out via the United States Congress. 630 00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:10,160 I have guided Congress with getting all the data, all the briefings, 631 00:39:10,240 --> 00:39:12,520 and all the people in various parts of the government 632 00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:15,480 to brief the senators and congressmen. We did all that. 633 00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:18,720 It actually leaked a handful of weeks ago 634 00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:21,160 when you saw these articles in The New York Times and whatever 635 00:39:21,240 --> 00:39:23,280 {\an8}where it said the Navy is creating formal mechanisms 636 00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:25,240 {\an8}for reporting UFOs. That was us. 637 00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:28,160 {\an8}That was To the Stars… Academy. That was our show. It's on the show. 638 00:39:28,240 --> 00:39:31,720 {\an8}It's really just following around what we do at To the Stars… Academy. 639 00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:34,360 {\an8}We deal with the US government every single day. 640 00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:37,920 I think Tom DeLonge said in a tweet 641 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:43,240 shortly after WikiLeaks published those files, those emails, he said, 642 00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:46,800 "You don't know what you have just destroyed, 643 00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:48,760 the whole mess you have created." 644 00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,920 And I think they had a completely different plan in the beginning. 645 00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:55,960 {\an8}I think their plan was that Hillary Clinton would become President, 646 00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:59,880 {\an8}and that this would somehow-- they would somehow work together. 647 00:39:59,960 --> 00:40:04,080 {\an8}Maybe the intelligence community is using this 648 00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:09,440 {\an8}as a way to disclose, but through the back door. 649 00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:11,880 What I'm trying to say is that 650 00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:15,200 maybe politically the President can't say, 651 00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:18,240 "My fellow Americans, people of the world, we're not alone." 652 00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:21,600 Because the implication is that governments have known about this 653 00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:23,880 and lied for it for 70 years. 654 00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:30,160 But maybe there's a way to just slip it out piece by piece 655 00:40:30,240 --> 00:40:33,000 so that the end result is the same. 656 00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:38,320 People end up knowing that this is real and the information is out there, 657 00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:42,760 but it's done through this third party. 658 00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:47,440 [narrator] In recent years, it has become clear 659 00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:50,800 that the effort to publicize information on UFOs 660 00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:54,640 has generated new momentum since the WikiLeaks Scandal, 661 00:40:54,720 --> 00:40:57,560 despite the results of the 2016 election. 662 00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:02,480 In 2017, The Academy of Arts and Sciences, 663 00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:07,200 with Tom DeLonge and former Pentagon point man on UFOs, Luis Elizondo, 664 00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:10,880 released three videos from the Pentagon's secret program archive. 665 00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:15,920 These videos have provided fascinating new insight 666 00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:18,200 into the extent of contact with 667 00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:22,120 and research on the infamous Tic Tac UFO craft. 668 00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:28,840 So far, this initiative presents UFOs, renamed UAPs, as a threat. 669 00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:35,720 But is it not more possible that technologically unsurpassable craft 670 00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:39,640 that have been flying overhead for centuries, perhaps even millennia, 671 00:41:39,720 --> 00:41:42,520 are more of a hope than a threat? 672 00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:47,040 The world is bracing itself for further revelations. 673 00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:49,360 Perhaps a formal acknowledgment 674 00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:54,720 from the highest ranks in government that Top Secret UFO Programs do exist, 675 00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:58,560 and that they have shown, as so many have suspected, 676 00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:02,160 that we are not alone in the universe. 677 00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:07,880 We are going to have to help push along 678 00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:10,640 a process in which the people in the world 679 00:42:10,720 --> 00:42:13,080 and governments start to get more information 680 00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:19,640 and engage this thing until eventually, they have no choice 681 00:42:19,720 --> 00:42:22,040 but to acknowledge, yes, there's extraterrestrials here, 682 00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:23,520 and probably even say, 683 00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:25,520 "And there's not a damn thing we can do about it." 684 00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:31,840 Firstly, we know that there are more videos, 685 00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:34,000 photographs and videos, 686 00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:38,600 like the videos that we've seen of the Navy jets chasing UFOs. 687 00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:42,160 So we're going to see more of those sorts of videos, I think. 688 00:42:42,240 --> 00:42:45,520 Secondly, I think we'll see more documents, 689 00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:50,880 {\an8}and I think the other thing we will see is that more people 690 00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:52,840 who have been involved in this, 691 00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:54,600 either as witnesses 692 00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:59,320 {\an8}or as people who have been involved in the program, 693 00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:01,720 they are going to come forward and speak out. 694 00:43:02,720 --> 00:43:06,640 {\an8}I think we're seeing what we're seeing now because of social media 695 00:43:06,720 --> 00:43:11,000 {\an8}and the digital age, everybody is sharing information at a rapid rate. 696 00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:13,200 So if something seems like it's changing, 697 00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:16,360 it's because the information is flowing in a different way now. 698 00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:20,680 You know, this phenomenon is ancient as far as we can tell from the beginning 699 00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:23,480 of recorded human history, so we'll see what happens. 700 00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:26,280 [D'Antonio] The military is always looking for money, um… 701 00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:30,320 and they will use that public opinion to scare the public 702 00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:32,480 so we can get more money to do this. 703 00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:33,880 {\an8}"We need a space force." 704 00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:37,320 {\an8}"Let's scare the public into thinking we need to protect them from…" 705 00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:39,040 {\an8}your choice here. 706 00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:44,080 A, B, or C, asteroids, aliens, anything, you know? 707 00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:46,800 So that's something that does happen. 708 00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:52,560 This is a road, and we're not at the end of that road yet. 709 00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:56,960 {\an8}[closing theme music playing] 67626

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