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Where's Howard?
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Is Grady Little around?
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This way.
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I know a lot of folks
were wondering if, uh...
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why I probably
didn't take him out,
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{\an8}but he's the man we want out
there in those situations.
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{\an8}The way, uh...
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{\an8}- He's pretty tough.
- The way Joe kept Mariano in.
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{\an8}He could've tired, you know?
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- He's pretty tough.
- Yeah. Well, you did a great job.
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Thank you very much. A
pleasure. Thank you...
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I think you're gonna
be Manager of the Year.
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I don't know about that.
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After we got beat in New
York that day in 2003,
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if they would've had an, uh, election
between me and Osama bin Laden,
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I was not gonna win.
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And here comes Grady Little.
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Grady goes out.
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But he's not
gonna make the change.
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That is amazing.
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And when he comes off then, it's...
his... his managing career is over.
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I'm out.
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{\an8}The Yankees
are going to the World Series!
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Aaron Boone has hit a home run!
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The Yankees go to
the World Series
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for the 39th time in
their remarkable history!
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We're gonna take 24 hours. We're
gonna feel sorry for ourselves.
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Totally dejected.
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If I could cry on
camera, I would.
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Like 24 hours from now,
everyone was galvanized.
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We had been responsible with
the budget the year before.
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{\an8}And that winter it was,
"Do what you need to do
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{\an8}to, like, you know, fix the
pitching, fix the bullpen."
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Like, "Let's go."
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Well, we're
back where we started,
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right here at Yankee Stadium.
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The Marlins roll in after
winning two of three at home.
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They're up three games to two...
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The weirdest thing about '03,
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was the fact that we talk about '03
like the Yankees won the World Series.
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And they didn't.
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Posada, a slow
roller, right side.
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Beckett picks it
up, tags Posada,
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and the Florida Marlins
are World Champions.
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Devastating losses have
devastating consequences.
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The Marlins have stunned
the Yankees, shocked New York.
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That offseason, there was two
teams, and nobody else mattered.
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Free agency, Red Sox, Yankees.
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Trades, Red Sox, Yankees.
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It was Boston, and
it was New York.
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- It was an arms race.
- Congratulations, Alex!
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Everything good?
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For the first time since 1981,
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another team is popping
champagne at Yankee Stadium.
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That series was
supposed to be a victory, and it wasn't.
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George used to
have a saying that,
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"Winning was the most important thing
in his life other than breathing." Okay?
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I mean, and... And he meant it.
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He couldn't tolerate losing.
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You mention the
name "George Steinbrenner,"
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like a lightning rod.
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There's no owner in sports,
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be it football, basketball,
hockey, or baseball,
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that's gonna sit and tell
me he's not in it for ego.
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Because he is.
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Yeah, he has
knowledge of the game.
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The only thing George
doesn't have is the patience.
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George, it... it
was never enough.
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You know, you're... you're supposed
to win, and you need to win again.
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{\an8}I'm gonna use everything I can to
deliver a winning team for New York.
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{\an8}That's my business.
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{\an8}When I don't want to do that,
I'll get out of the sport.
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Every single year,
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they seemed to have the money
to pick up the big free agent.
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The big bat. The big player.
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We were just literally
doing enough to stay by,
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but not to overtake the Yankees.
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We needed that extra
Pedro out there.
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We needed more pitching.
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A true ace is the guy
who you give the ball to
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in the win-or-go-home game.
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And I... I always
aspired to be that guy.
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Schilling, should
be said, that velocity will go up
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later in a game.
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Schilling got
the job done all the time.
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Swung on and missed.
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He never saw a big game
that he didn't command.
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The buzz in the media
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was Arizona would be open to
moving on from Curt Schilling.
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Schilling would be a
perfect fit for us.
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The winter of '03,
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if I was a gambling man, day
one of winter, I would've said
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I'm absolutely gonna play for
the New York Yankees next year.
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Boston wasn't even on my radar.
I wasn't gonna go to Boston.
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I wanna have a chance to win a World
Series for the rest of my career.
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With the Yankees, it would
be joining a long line,
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and a tremendous heritage and
the prestige of being a Yankee...
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Of course, Curt Schilling
wants to be a Yankee,
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like, you know, where all
the focus and attention is.
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Makes perfect sense.
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But maybe too dumb to know any
better or, like, being bold,
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we just said, "Well, you
know, it doesn't hurt to try."
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It's a couple days
before Thanksgiving.
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I called Schilling, and I said,
"How about coming to Boston?"
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He's like, "No. How about
you coming out here?"
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Get off my driveway.
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The next morning, we
fly out to Schilling's.
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We negotiate all day.
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And then, the end
of that first night,
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Schill says, "What are you guys
doing tomorrow for Thanksgiving?"
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We're like, "I don't know, nothing.
Going to Boston Chicken?" I don't know.
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He's like, "No, you're
coming over here."
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Oh my God.
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I have the worst food poisoning
of my life, to this day.
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And almost undoubtedly from the
turkey at the Schillings' house.
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Jed's, like, pale as a ghost.
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He's sweating, he's clammy,
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he's like keeled over, he's
like rocking back and forth.
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And we couldn't leave, because we
hadn't gotten him to agree yet.
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{\an8}Like, it's no surprise, Curt
Schilling has a healthy ego.
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{\an8}And we're world champs.
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{\an8}We're like, all right, the chance to be a
big part of the team that ends The Curse
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and goes up with the Yankees
would really appeal to him.
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I said, "Hey, listen. You
know, I'm interested."
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So we finished
up the Schilling signing.
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The minute I left the house,
I started throwing up again.
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{\an8}The Yankee-Red
Sox rivalry transcends sports.
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Being a part of that was certainly
an attraction to all of this.
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I don't have a problem
with the expectations.
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"You're coming here to break The
C..." Well, all right, fuck The Curse.
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It was a curse of talent.
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They were just never
talented enough to win it.
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This is an epic quest here. We're
on a quest to beat the Yankees.
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We're on a quest
for a World Series.
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We were doing
everything we could
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to have a payroll that
would match the Yankees.
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The Red Sox are
winning the offseason arms race.
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Boston signs free agent closer
Keith Foulke to a three-year deal.
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Foulke saved 43 games
for the A's last season.
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It's like the
biggest rivalry in sports.
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There's a part of me, at
that point in my career,
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where I wanted to taste victory.
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Told the wife at the time, like, "Pack
your shit. We're going to Boston."
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We welcome to the
Yankee family Gary Sheffield.
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{\an8}I know the pitchers
in our league
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{\an8}are not too excited to
have to face this man.
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I don't strike out.
I drive in runs when they matter,
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and I'm gonna be that guy
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that's gonna be the
difference-maker in this lineup.
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I'm a hired gun.
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George, the Red Sox threw a punch,
but you threw a counterpunch.
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Is it... Is it all about
beating the Red Sox?
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No, it has nothing to do
with beating the Red Sox.
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You got two prizefighters here
that are gonna continue to...
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to duke it out,
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and, uh, I don't know
how long I can take it.
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The Red Sox
actually decided to compete.
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Player for player,
dollar for dollar.
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Now it's win, win, win, win.
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What's next?
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What else is gonna happen?
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Okay, we're rolling.
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- Yeah. Quiet, please!
- Quiet, please!
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"This is Alex Rodriguez
of the Texas Rangers."
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"It's better at the ballpark."
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"This is Alex Rodriguez
of the Texas Rangers,
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and it's better
at the ballpark."
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"Hey, it's better
at the ballpark."
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Wearing
number three, Alex Rodriguez!
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A-Rod to his left,
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flipped from the glove
in time for the putout.
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A-Rod has done it again!
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Alex Rodriguez is the
best player in baseball of '03-'04.
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Young, handsome, coveted.
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Hall of Fame résumé.
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He is, in fact, the greatest
shortstop who ever played.
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{\an8}The Rangers and Alex Rodriguez
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{\an8}will officially announce
his signing with Texas.
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The terms... Are
you sitting down?
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Ten years, $252 million,
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making him by far the highest-paid
player in the history of team sports.
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But there wasn't a lot of
winning attached to that.
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{\an8}Three straight
last-place finishes,
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{\an8}and the championship aspirations
have come to a screeching halt
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for Rodriguez and the Rangers.
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He wanted out of Texas.
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They weren't winning, and
they wanted to move on.
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We had to start thinking about,
like, "Okay, well, we have Manny."
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He had had a difficult
time during the '03 season
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embracing his place
with the Red Sox.
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I mean, he would just
disappear on his teammates.
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In 2003,
we're playing the Yankees.
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Every game's
so important for the Red Sox.
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But the Red Sox don't need
any contro... controversy.
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There's controversy
surrounding Manny.
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In there for called strike.
He was not here during batting practice.
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Where's Manny? No one
knew where he went.
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He wouldn't answer the
phone. Like, what happened?
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He's at the hotel bar of the
Yankees with Enrique Wilson.
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Huh?
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Dudes were not happy.
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Guys wanted to maybe fight him.
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"What were you thinking?"
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Manny would come
to me all the time.
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"Papi, you gotta get me out of
Boston. You gotta trade me."
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So, that winter we're talking to
the Rangers about Manny for Alex.
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This is all secret.
No one knows what's going on.
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The Texas owner, Tom Hicks,
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asked me to meet with A-Rod.
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I agreed to do that,
very reluctantly,
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because I thought our
shortstop would get very upset.
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A-Rod seemed like a really
personable, good guy,
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but, um, as soon as we met, Tom
Hicks leaked it to the media.
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{\an8}Joining us on the line, the
shortstop for the Boston Red Sox,
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{\an8}Nomar Garciaparra.
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{\an8}Nomar, do you believe
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{\an8}that this talk is a
slap in the face to you?
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{\an8}What if you guys woke
up one day, you're, you know...
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{\an8}and you start
reading in the paper
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that your station was interviewing
people to take your spot?
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To replace you guys?
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How would you guys feel about
that? How would you guys take it?
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Nomar's got
a target on his back.
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And he's not just a guy,
he's Nomar Garciaparra.
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You're messing with
one of your giants.
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Without championships, all
Boston had was its superstars.
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You had Williams.
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You had Yaz.
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Jim Rice.
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Nomar. He was that
dude. This was his town.
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{\an8}You don't trade
superstars in Boston.
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I'm calling today
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because a lot of things I'm
reading is that I'm unhappy.
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As far as my desire to still
continue to wear that Boston uniform,
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it's there and it's
always been there.
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You know, his
contract was up after '04.
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We made an offer for a
long-term contract extension.
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It wasn't accepted.
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It was deemed kind of, like, low
and maybe, like, far too low,
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and therefore a
little bit insulting.
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We'd come to look at him
as a great, great player,
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but defensively, wasn't
necessarily where we wanted to be.
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Come on, Nomar!
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When you talk about Alex,
who's hands-down the best player
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in the league,
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offensive powerhouse, who also
was a legitimate shortstop,
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that was a swap that we
were willing to make.
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Talking on the phone to Alex,
texting him, he was like,
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"Come... Come meet me...
Come meet me in New York."
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Jed and I fly out to New York,
flight's delayed, we get in real late.
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I... I just said, "Hey, I'll
get you tomorrow morning."
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He texted me right back,
2:00 in the morning,
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he's like, "No, come
up to the room."
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I'm like, "We're really
doing this tonight? Okay."
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Thirty-seventh floor or
whatever, go... go upstairs.
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A-Rod opens the door, he's
wearing, like, a three-piece suit.
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He's, like, totally
put together.
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He's got his briefcase.
He's like, "Welcome."
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He's impressive, but he's
also kind of full of shit.
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Like, Alex is always, like,
a little bit full of shit.
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I'm full of shit a
lot of the time too.
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We just show up and we start talking
to him about joining the Red Sox.
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We didn't feel like we could
take on all of Alex's contract.
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And so we had to negotiate.
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If you're gonna rework a contract and
walk away from guaranteed dollars,
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there has to be an equal
exchange of benefits.
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It got very complicated.
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But to Alex's credit, he
wanted to be a Red Sock.
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We end up trading Manny
Ramirez and Jon Lester to Texas
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for Alex Rodriguez.
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But now we gotta trade Nomar.
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We trade Nomar to the White Sox for
Magglio Ordóñez and Brandon McCarthy.
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And we write out the lineup
that we're gonna have.
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It was incredible.
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But the one last step
in the deal was we had to get
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the Players Association
to sign off on it.
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Now playing shortstop for the
Boston Red Sox, Alex Rodriguez.
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Well, it could happen
over the next 24 hours...
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While that's happening, while
the deal's still in limbo,
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the key moment was fricking Millar
opening his big mouth again.
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Never one to shy away
from a tough question,
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we bring back Kevin Millar,
the Red Sox first baseman.
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Back by popular demand...
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Highlights are
kickin'. The hair's coming back.
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A-Rod is maybe coming
to the Boston Red Sox.
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Has met with ownership.
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I'm on a satellite looking at a
camera, kind of like this right now.
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Dan Patrick's on the headset.
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Now some audio perhaps with Kevin.
And Kevin, you gotta choose.
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You can have Alex Rodriguez
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or you can have Manny and
Nomar. Who you taking?
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Dan Patrick asked me,
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"Who do you think's gonna throw you
the baseball across the infield?"
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Seemed like it was gonna be a done
deal, I answered the question.
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We'll take A-Rod.
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Get in my car, and
Nomar calls me.
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Pissed off.
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"How the fuck do you say that
you... How? What the...?"
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And we're yelling, so I
pull over, I'm yelling back.
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"Hey, dude, I answered
a question I was asked."
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The question
was, "Who do you want?"
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"Who do... "Oh, was
it, "Who do you want?"
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Wow.
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Okay. Well, then he
has a right to be mad.
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Now, it's like not only is Nomar
justifiably pissed at the front office,
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but probably the most influential
teammate that he has in the clubhouse
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has openly betrayed
him in public.
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We'll take A-Rod.
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We thought we were gonna
pull it off. It was.
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We got it down to
the one-yard line.
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And then it just
kind of blew up.
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The baseball players' union rejected
the changes that Boston proposed
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to restructure the contract
of shortstop Alex Rodriguez.
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{\an8}Larry Lucchino issued
a statement, "The proposed trade
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{\an8}between the Boston Red Sox and
the Texas Rangers is dead."
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All this stuff's
happening in warp speed.
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They're reinventing the team.
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And then, "Oh, wait.
It's not happening."
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He's back on the market.
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Len's here with the latest
bad news for the Yankees.
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It is, Linda. Yankee
third baseman Aaron Boone
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{\an8}hurt his left knee
playing basketball.
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{\an8}He could be out
the entire season.
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He gets hurt. Now the
Yankees are in on A-Rod.
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When the Yankees found out that A-Rod
was willing to move from shortstop,
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where he might be the
best player of all time,
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and move to third base
just to play on a winner,
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it was a very simple deal.
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Alex Rodriguez going
to the Yankees,
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thus continuing their legacy
of success over the Red Sox.
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{\an8}Yeah, I was just as
surprised as the Yankee fans
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{\an8}and the Boston Red Sox fans
when I opened up my paper today.
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It, obviously, is a big deal.
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The day we're leaving for spring
training, the Yankees trade for him.
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We were crushed.
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We have many things to do.
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Fellas, hold on.
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Guys, this
way. Down here, please.
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What a reception. Um...
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Just obviously overwhelmed.
Very, very happy to be here.
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Um... I still feel like, uh, someone's
gonna pinch me and wake me up.
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Enough, enough, enough!
Okay? Enough! Knock it off.
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A-Rod... brought,
obviously, great talent.
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But there was this uneasiness.
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First of all, it was widely
known throughout baseball
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that A-Rod was a better
shortstop than Jeter.
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Okay? But now he has
to play third base.
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You know, when you're in,
uh... When you're in New York,
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Derek Jeter's the shortstop,
and... and that's... that's it.
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You know, any time you get a chance
to have a player of Alex's caliber,
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you... you gotta jump on it.
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- Why give up shortstop?
- I think winning's that important.
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I think having an opportunity
to win and win consistently
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and, uh, have an opportunity
to play in October...
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And when we brought him in,
I felt like, automatically,
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"The next three to four
years while I'm here,
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we're gonna win championships."
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Isn't it kinda ironic
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that Aaron Boone kinda gave it
to the Red Sox twice this year?
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Oliver... Might be an Oliver
Stone conspiracy, I don't know.
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That just adds more insult
to injury right now.
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00:19:00,514 --> 00:19:02,515
That we once again
beat the Red Sox.
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00:19:02,516 --> 00:19:04,350
- Boston sucks.
- You're going down.
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You're going down, Boston.
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- We're gonna win it all this year.
- I hope that couch feels nice.
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'Cause you're gonna be
sitting on it next October.
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00:19:10,190 --> 00:19:12,567
How could the Sox
screw this up any more?
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00:19:12,568 --> 00:19:14,652
Not to mention the hurt feelings
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about having traded two
of your best players,
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who are now back. "Oh,
hi, come on back."
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00:19:19,533 --> 00:19:21,951
That's like the plane's going
down, you start insulting people,
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then you land safely, you
gotta be at baggage like,
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"Oh, sorry, didn't mean to say you
were the worst person I ever knew."
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00:19:30,377 --> 00:19:31,503
Oh shit.
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00:19:37,551 --> 00:19:39,177
Yeah, so a lot went on, right?
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00:19:41,305 --> 00:19:44,349
Manny had the trade
scene from that offseason.
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Alex goes to the
New York Yankees.
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Nomar Garciaparra's the
shortstop for the Boston Red Sox.
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00:19:54,067 --> 00:19:57,445
Grady gets fired, still a little
bit sad for him. Great man.
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So Terry Francona's our manager.
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00:19:59,865 --> 00:20:01,782
Who's Terry Francona?
I had no idea.
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00:20:03,327 --> 00:20:06,704
I've seen
celebrities, politicians,
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00:20:06,705 --> 00:20:10,083
walk into a Major League clubhouse
and you can tell they're nervous.
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00:20:16,256 --> 00:20:19,759
For me, you get in your underwear,
put some tobacco in or whatever,
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00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:21,177
and I'm good to go.
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00:20:21,178 --> 00:20:24,096
It's... It's just a place
where I'm more comfortable
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than any place in
the whole world.
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00:20:25,891 --> 00:20:27,100
Holy cow.
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00:20:28,477 --> 00:20:29,310
What a dude.
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00:20:29,311 --> 00:20:31,355
Look what kind of model
we have here, dude.
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He was a player
in a manager's body.
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One of the funniest dudes you
can ever imagine to play for.
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00:20:39,071 --> 00:20:41,614
Seriously, they told me if
I don't start stretching,
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when I get older I'll look
like you. So I'm trying...
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00:20:46,995 --> 00:20:49,748
Oh my God. Tito, man.
I love Tito, man.
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00:20:50,457 --> 00:20:52,792
I wanted to hire
someone with experience.
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00:20:52,793 --> 00:20:57,129
Tito, he had some experience
using analytics and data
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to inform decision-making.
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00:20:59,049 --> 00:21:01,718
He was gonna be the right guy
for that group of players.
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00:21:02,719 --> 00:21:03,552
Nice.
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00:21:03,553 --> 00:21:05,513
I remember
thinking when I came there,
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00:21:05,514 --> 00:21:07,098
I was excited, thought
"I'm prepared."
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00:21:07,099 --> 00:21:08,015
I see ya.
404
00:21:08,016 --> 00:21:11,602
Nobody's prepared to go there
till you live through it.
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00:21:11,603 --> 00:21:12,770
{\an8}Okay, anything else?
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There's a fire to
put out every day in Boston.
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00:21:15,482 --> 00:21:17,608
{\an8}There's only so much I can
tell you after a second day
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{\an8}of pitchers and catchers.
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Manny!
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00:21:20,404 --> 00:21:23,864
The first spring training,
I walked up to Manny when he got there,
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and I remember him looking at
me, and he said, "Hey." He goes,
412
00:21:27,369 --> 00:21:29,453
"I know you gonna try
to get me to like you."
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00:21:29,454 --> 00:21:30,621
Manny!
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00:21:30,622 --> 00:21:32,331
"Keep your distance."
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00:21:32,332 --> 00:21:33,332
Big Papi.
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00:21:34,376 --> 00:21:37,003
And I remember him walking
through the clubhouse,
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00:21:37,004 --> 00:21:40,465
proclaiming to anybody that could
hear, "They put me on eBay!"
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00:21:41,258 --> 00:21:43,217
I'm like, "Oh boy.
This is good."
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00:21:43,218 --> 00:21:45,929
You gotta back off.
You gotta back off totally.
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00:21:46,471 --> 00:21:47,346
Thanks, Manny.
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00:21:47,347 --> 00:21:48,681
- Hey, hold on.
- You okay?
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00:21:48,682 --> 00:21:49,640
Yeah, I'm good.
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00:21:49,641 --> 00:21:51,017
Nomar!
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00:21:53,186 --> 00:21:54,937
Nomar and I were close,
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00:21:54,938 --> 00:21:59,026
but it turned into, like, kind
of an uncomfortable relationship.
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00:22:04,906 --> 00:22:07,346
I almost pulled
into handicapped, you see that?
427
00:22:10,203 --> 00:22:12,748
But you got
here at 9:30, so it's cool.
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00:22:13,332 --> 00:22:16,918
I think he felt that I'd
betrayed him or something.
429
00:22:21,048 --> 00:22:23,758
I knew Nomar before
he got called up to Boston,
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00:22:23,759 --> 00:22:26,260
so I had a history, a
good history with him.
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00:22:26,261 --> 00:22:29,139
So it was a little easier
for me to talk to him.
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00:22:29,890 --> 00:22:33,768
Like, I mean, "Hey, man. You know,
this is... Let's deal with it."
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00:22:33,769 --> 00:22:36,020
Like, you know, you can't
go in a room and pout.
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00:22:36,021 --> 00:22:38,647
You know, "Go play, man.
You're a really good player."
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00:22:38,648 --> 00:22:39,940
Are you still mad?
436
00:22:42,694 --> 00:22:44,696
{\an8}Am I pissed? Am I still mad?
437
00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:48,240
Uh, pissed, mad, all that stuff?
438
00:22:48,241 --> 00:22:50,368
Well, I don't know if
I'm all those things.
439
00:22:50,369 --> 00:22:52,703
I was definitely hurt
by a lot of it. Um...
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00:22:52,704 --> 00:22:54,580
I probably feel like
anyone else would feel
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00:22:54,581 --> 00:22:57,792
after, uh, spending their whole
career in, uh... in one organization
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00:22:57,793 --> 00:22:59,210
and giving and doing what you do
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00:22:59,211 --> 00:23:02,296
and then having to find out
that, uh, you've been traded
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00:23:02,297 --> 00:23:04,882
or you're pretty much
gone over the television.
445
00:23:04,883 --> 00:23:06,967
And then, you know,
the spring training,
446
00:23:06,968 --> 00:23:10,596
uh, Achilles injury happened, and
we were without him for the first...
447
00:23:10,597 --> 00:23:12,807
first couple months-plus
of the season.
448
00:23:12,808 --> 00:23:14,517
Was it a practice
ball that hit you?
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00:23:14,518 --> 00:23:17,353
{\an8}Just during BP.
You know, balls flying around,
450
00:23:17,354 --> 00:23:18,771
{\an8}walking off and I just got hit.
451
00:23:18,772 --> 00:23:19,980
{\an8}Didn't think much of it.
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00:23:19,981 --> 00:23:21,440
No one ever saw it happen.
453
00:23:21,441 --> 00:23:24,026
And, you know, I think that there
was definitely some questions
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of when he hurt it.
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00:23:24,945 --> 00:23:28,031
Did he hurt it before he ever got
there and that was a cover story?
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00:23:29,449 --> 00:23:31,033
You know, I remember thinking,
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00:23:31,034 --> 00:23:34,495
"This isn't gonna help anybody
if it goes the wrong way."
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00:23:34,496 --> 00:23:36,664
And you try to remind players,
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00:23:36,665 --> 00:23:41,002
"Hey, are you coming in
because of the team or you?"
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00:23:42,754 --> 00:23:45,966
Just did with him like I do
with everybody, was honest.
461
00:23:47,759 --> 00:23:49,760
You know, sometimes,
you can't tell somebody
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00:23:49,761 --> 00:23:50,929
something they wanna hear.
463
00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:54,349
- Good morning.
- Another beautiful day. Good luck!
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00:23:55,475 --> 00:24:00,187
I think what's really crazy about that
is we talk about how big Nomar was.
465
00:24:00,188 --> 00:24:01,690
Let's not forget
how big Pedro was.
466
00:24:02,399 --> 00:24:04,191
Pedro was in the
last year of his deal.
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00:24:04,192 --> 00:24:05,693
I think we knew he was gonna ask
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00:24:05,694 --> 00:24:07,987
for an amount of money that
we were not gonna give him.
469
00:24:08,905 --> 00:24:14,076
I actually was hoping, based
on my pedigree with Boston,
470
00:24:14,077 --> 00:24:17,121
my... you know, my
success in Boston,
471
00:24:17,122 --> 00:24:20,749
that I was gonna be, uh,
considered a little bit more.
472
00:24:20,750 --> 00:24:22,835
But deep inside of me,
473
00:24:22,836 --> 00:24:25,088
I... I kind of knew
474
00:24:25,922 --> 00:24:30,343
that the only dark part
that baseball never shows
475
00:24:31,136 --> 00:24:32,762
is the business part of it.
476
00:24:34,097 --> 00:24:36,808
And the business part
of it has no friends,
477
00:24:37,309 --> 00:24:38,602
has no loyalty.
478
00:24:39,895 --> 00:24:41,812
His arm angle
was dropping a little bit,
479
00:24:41,813 --> 00:24:44,023
the velocity was
dropping a little bit.
480
00:24:44,024 --> 00:24:46,150
Giving him, like, a
top-of-the-market contract
481
00:24:46,151 --> 00:24:48,235
for '05, '06, '07,
482
00:24:48,236 --> 00:24:50,321
I didn't think was...
was good business.
483
00:24:50,322 --> 00:24:52,615
It's not up to me. I tried.
484
00:24:52,616 --> 00:24:56,660
I said it, and I... I still say
it. I wanna finish in Boston.
485
00:24:56,661 --> 00:24:59,079
I'm a Bostonian.
486
00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:01,374
You don't even re-up Pedro,
487
00:25:02,042 --> 00:25:03,585
which is your way of saying,
488
00:25:04,127 --> 00:25:08,381
"You're going to the Hall of Fame,
but you're also not the same player."
489
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:14,721
And certainly when you bring
in a guy like Schilling,
490
00:25:16,056 --> 00:25:17,431
you really think
Pedro's gonna say,
491
00:25:17,432 --> 00:25:20,268
"Yeah, come on in. I didn't get
the job done. Maybe you can help"?
492
00:25:21,937 --> 00:25:24,647
Schilling and Pedro
were natural rivals, right?
493
00:25:24,648 --> 00:25:27,150
Both alpha male aces.
494
00:25:28,193 --> 00:25:30,861
And there was this
much-publicized relationship
495
00:25:30,862 --> 00:25:33,073
between Schilling and Tito.
496
00:25:33,782 --> 00:25:36,451
I started Tito's first
game as a manager.
497
00:25:38,161 --> 00:25:40,830
So we became very
close in Philly.
498
00:25:41,748 --> 00:25:44,417
I think Pedro reacted
to that initially.
499
00:25:45,418 --> 00:25:48,963
No, no. There was never a
rivalry between me and Schilling.
500
00:25:48,964 --> 00:25:50,549
He was a number one.
501
00:25:51,383 --> 00:25:52,884
I was a number one.
502
00:25:53,385 --> 00:25:55,553
Any sort of...
No? No discussion...
503
00:25:55,554 --> 00:25:58,473
No, I mean, it's not... it's
not something you talk about.
504
00:25:59,140 --> 00:26:02,977
You're going out and pitching opening day,
you're obviously the opening-day starter.
505
00:26:02,978 --> 00:26:05,897
Okay. Yeah. I
mean, it is what it is.
506
00:26:06,731 --> 00:26:09,608
The Red Sox are
again filled with high hopes
507
00:26:09,609 --> 00:26:11,610
and a lot of expectations
for this season.
508
00:26:11,611 --> 00:26:14,071
First of all, Jon, there's
nothing like opening night.
509
00:26:14,072 --> 00:26:15,197
And this is the night
510
00:26:15,198 --> 00:26:18,075
that the Red Sox fans and the
players have been looking to
511
00:26:18,076 --> 00:26:21,245
since Game 7 of last
year's ALCS championship.
512
00:26:21,246 --> 00:26:23,497
There's an old saying in
baseball, "Wait till next year."
513
00:26:23,498 --> 00:26:24,583
Well, this is next year.
514
00:26:25,166 --> 00:26:28,002
as Pedro Martínez
makes his seventh opening day start
515
00:26:28,003 --> 00:26:29,712
in as many seasons
with the Red Sox.
516
00:26:29,713 --> 00:26:30,963
He ties Roger Clemens
517
00:26:30,964 --> 00:26:34,593
for most consecutive opening
starts in club history.
518
00:26:35,176 --> 00:26:37,762
Pedro, it wasn't a bad
appearance or anything.
519
00:26:39,014 --> 00:26:42,266
Pedro Martínez
leaves after six innings,
520
00:26:42,267 --> 00:26:45,978
and despite a shaky
second inning,
521
00:26:45,979 --> 00:26:48,690
Pedro gave the Red Sox
a fine effort tonight.
522
00:26:49,357 --> 00:26:51,860
Six innings, three
runs, two earned.
523
00:26:53,111 --> 00:26:55,530
But he left the clubhouse early.
524
00:26:56,489 --> 00:26:59,116
{\an8}He didn't stay, and that's
a rule. They all know.
525
00:26:59,117 --> 00:27:01,953
Petey left the
game early, which is a no-no.
526
00:27:02,704 --> 00:27:05,164
And I caught wind
of it, and I knew.
527
00:27:05,165 --> 00:27:07,583
I'm getting tested two
hours into the season.
528
00:27:07,584 --> 00:27:11,171
I did not leave the clubhouse.
I was in the family room.
529
00:27:12,213 --> 00:27:15,383
That's not the type of person I
am and the type of player I was.
530
00:27:19,095 --> 00:27:24,517
The only ones that didn't probably
know everything about me at that point
531
00:27:25,018 --> 00:27:26,894
were Schilling and Tito.
532
00:27:26,895 --> 00:27:28,771
They made the adjustment to me.
533
00:27:30,690 --> 00:27:33,859
I wanted to get to know him,
and the thing that I got from him
534
00:27:33,860 --> 00:27:36,820
was the thing that eventually
ended up hurting my ankle.
535
00:27:36,821 --> 00:27:39,323
I would go down and watch
him throw his bullpen,
536
00:27:39,324 --> 00:27:43,243
and I noticed that when he... he
did his rotation on the rubber,
537
00:27:43,244 --> 00:27:45,788
he put his cleat half on
and half off the rubber.
538
00:27:45,789 --> 00:27:49,167
And he did that for leverage, it allowed
him to throw a little bit harder.
539
00:27:49,918 --> 00:27:51,294
And I thought,
"That's different."
540
00:27:51,878 --> 00:27:54,672
And I tried it, and it bumped
my velocity up a little.
541
00:27:54,673 --> 00:27:58,801
The problem was when I rotated
my ankle on the rubber, uh,
542
00:27:58,802 --> 00:28:02,179
there was compression
on the bone in my ankle,
543
00:28:02,180 --> 00:28:05,015
and it... I had a bone bruise.
544
00:28:07,477 --> 00:28:11,398
But it did give me better velocity,
and so I was okay with the tradeoff.
545
00:28:14,192 --> 00:28:16,777
Lined into
center field, a base hit.
546
00:28:16,778 --> 00:28:19,280
There was a
game early on in the year.
547
00:28:20,031 --> 00:28:22,157
We were playing the
Blue Jays in Toronto.
548
00:28:22,158 --> 00:28:24,660
And for the first time, it was
bothering me significantly.
549
00:28:24,661 --> 00:28:26,662
{\an8}Pitch to Hudson.
550
00:28:26,663 --> 00:28:29,290
{\an8}Outside, ball four,
bases are loaded.
551
00:28:30,750 --> 00:28:33,335
In the eighth inning,
I loaded the bases with two outs
552
00:28:33,336 --> 00:28:36,255
and Chris Gomez came up, and
got him into a 3-2 count,
553
00:28:36,256 --> 00:28:37,881
and I threw a split
that didn't split.
554
00:28:37,882 --> 00:28:40,175
One-one is lined to left,
555
00:28:40,176 --> 00:28:43,470
{\an8}deep down towards the
corner, and that is gone!
556
00:28:43,471 --> 00:28:48,434
{\an8}A grand slam off Curt Schilling by
the number nine hitter Chris Gomez.
557
00:28:48,435 --> 00:28:53,147
From that start on, it was something
I dealt with the rest of the year.
558
00:28:58,778 --> 00:29:03,867
It went from, "Hey, we can win" in '03,
to expecting to win ballgames in '04.
559
00:29:04,451 --> 00:29:07,620
Funny thing is we didn't play like
that for the first half of the year.
560
00:29:08,121 --> 00:29:11,123
And the
Indians hold on to win 2-1,
561
00:29:11,124 --> 00:29:13,959
in another frustrating
affair for the Red Sox
562
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,211
as they drop their
fourth in a row.
563
00:29:16,212 --> 00:29:18,964
{\an8}When you suck, you suck. You can't
sugarcoat it, you know what I mean?
564
00:29:18,965 --> 00:29:21,175
To win a lot, you gotta beat
teams you're supposed to.
565
00:29:21,176 --> 00:29:25,387
And line to center field
and... dropped! Dropped by Damon!
566
00:29:25,388 --> 00:29:29,892
We just kind of muddled around for,
like, two and a half, three months.
567
00:29:29,893 --> 00:29:31,810
With the same old pattern.
568
00:29:31,811 --> 00:29:34,897
Lose one, win one. Lose
one, win one. Lose one.
569
00:29:34,898 --> 00:29:38,442
This... This ball club has
not shown me any consistency
570
00:29:38,443 --> 00:29:40,152
other than being inconsistent.
571
00:29:40,153 --> 00:29:43,155
{\an8}Meanwhile, the Yankees are
great, and they're pulling away from us.
572
00:29:43,156 --> 00:29:47,285
{\an8}Yankees
win! The Yankees win!
573
00:29:48,995 --> 00:29:51,331
We couldn't catch our footing.
574
00:29:51,831 --> 00:29:54,249
The Oakland
A's on top, six to nothing.
575
00:29:54,250 --> 00:29:56,251
I remember
stopping at red lights, man.
576
00:29:56,252 --> 00:29:59,713
People were not hesitating
to give me their two cents.
577
00:29:59,714 --> 00:30:03,050
Many Red Sox fans
have talked about and worry about
578
00:30:03,051 --> 00:30:04,927
these intangible issues,
579
00:30:04,928 --> 00:30:08,430
the possible fallout from the
Mannys and Nomars of the world.
580
00:30:08,431 --> 00:30:10,557
Like, what is wrong
with this group?
581
00:30:11,684 --> 00:30:13,393
Our defense
was a big part of it,
582
00:30:13,394 --> 00:30:16,563
and then you had, you know, Nomar's
absence with the Achilles injury,
583
00:30:16,564 --> 00:30:18,525
and then his return. He
wasn't always available.
584
00:30:19,567 --> 00:30:21,902
{\an8}If I'm not there, I'm
not sticking it to the Red Sox,
585
00:30:21,903 --> 00:30:23,570
{\an8}I wanna be out there
with my teammates.
586
00:30:23,571 --> 00:30:25,782
{\an8}I wanna be out there
and I wanna be playing.
587
00:30:30,787 --> 00:30:33,872
He was fighting this injury,
and I think he sensed
588
00:30:33,873 --> 00:30:36,793
people questioning how come he
couldn't be in the lineup more.
589
00:30:37,585 --> 00:30:40,587
{\an8}There's been suggestions
that you were selfish.
590
00:30:40,588 --> 00:30:42,506
{\an8}You know who said that?
591
00:30:42,507 --> 00:30:44,509
{\an8}When you give me a
name, I'll address it.
592
00:30:46,678 --> 00:30:48,262
Tied at two, bottom eighth.
593
00:30:48,263 --> 00:30:50,973
{\an8}The right-hander deals, hit on
the ground toward the shortstop,
594
00:30:50,974 --> 00:30:55,895
oh, backhanded, Garciaparra, throws
low, and it gets by Ortiz in the stands.
595
00:30:56,479 --> 00:30:59,107
That's another
error for Garciaparra.
596
00:30:59,691 --> 00:31:03,778
He made two last night,
and now he has one tonight.
597
00:31:05,071 --> 00:31:07,614
Sheffield grounds
it out of the reach of Bellhorn!
598
00:31:07,615 --> 00:31:10,993
Lofton will come from third
with the go-ahead run,
599
00:31:10,994 --> 00:31:13,537
{\an8}and the Yankees lead it 3-2.
600
00:31:13,538 --> 00:31:15,664
{\an8}Into second goes Sheffield.
601
00:31:15,665 --> 00:31:17,500
And the Captain is digging it.
602
00:31:18,001 --> 00:31:20,794
{\an8}I went in after that game,
said "Nomie, I know you're supposed
603
00:31:20,795 --> 00:31:22,963
{\an8}to have tomorrow off." He
goes, "Yeah, I need it."
604
00:31:22,964 --> 00:31:25,424
I go, "Okay." I didn't
really think that much of it.
605
00:31:25,425 --> 00:31:27,259
Again, I'm still
pretty new up there.
606
00:31:27,260 --> 00:31:28,428
I didn't realize
607
00:31:28,970 --> 00:31:34,350
quite how, you know, disastrous
or inflammable that could be.
608
00:31:35,393 --> 00:31:38,103
I think it's a
real gut check for the Red Sox.
609
00:31:38,104 --> 00:31:41,189
This is a game that... to...
to turn this team around.
610
00:31:41,190 --> 00:31:43,567
I remember, you
know, somebody saying to me,
611
00:31:43,568 --> 00:31:46,862
"Hey, if he doesn't play, man,
he's gonna catch a lot of hell."
612
00:31:46,863 --> 00:31:49,531
You know, one thing
worth mentioning early on here,
613
00:31:49,532 --> 00:31:51,617
is that... is we noticed
in the Red Sox lineup,
614
00:31:51,618 --> 00:31:53,244
Garciaparra's not there.
615
00:31:53,828 --> 00:31:55,871
And, uh, he just said
he couldn't play today,
616
00:31:55,872 --> 00:31:57,164
wasn't feeling well. I mean...
617
00:31:57,165 --> 00:32:00,042
Terry Francona gave him
an opportunity to play,
618
00:32:00,043 --> 00:32:03,086
and I... once again, I think
from a teammate standpoint,
619
00:32:03,087 --> 00:32:05,797
well, you gotta take the field and
try... try to help your ball club.
620
00:32:05,798 --> 00:32:07,883
I don't think that's
a very popular move.
621
00:32:13,139 --> 00:32:14,891
At the time, I
didn't like Pedro.
622
00:32:16,768 --> 00:32:21,022
Bernie Williams told me, "Gary,
you wanna piss Pedro off?"
623
00:32:22,231 --> 00:32:25,151
He said, "Step out of the
box when he's on the mound."
624
00:32:25,902 --> 00:32:28,070
And time is called for a moment.
625
00:32:28,071 --> 00:32:30,365
Now, he didn't tell me
what was gonna happen.
626
00:32:31,783 --> 00:32:33,493
I'm not afraid to say it.
627
00:32:33,993 --> 00:32:35,286
I was a sharpshooter.
628
00:32:36,371 --> 00:32:39,331
Two outs, no one
on, no score, bottom of the first.
629
00:32:39,332 --> 00:32:42,668
And Pedro Martínez has
hit Gary Sheffield.
630
00:32:42,669 --> 00:32:46,463
If I knew you was trying to
hit me on purpose, I'm coming.
631
00:32:46,464 --> 00:32:49,466
He's taking it personally
as he heads down to first base.
632
00:32:49,467 --> 00:32:51,969
And I kept staring
at him to say something,
633
00:32:51,970 --> 00:32:53,554
but he wouldn't say anything.
634
00:32:55,848 --> 00:32:58,767
Backhand stop.
A-Rod to his feet, fires, got him!
635
00:32:58,768 --> 00:32:59,893
Oh, what a play!
636
00:33:01,521 --> 00:33:03,855
That one's
hit deep to center field.
637
00:33:03,856 --> 00:33:08,235
{\an8}Going back, Lofton. On the
track, at the wall, see you!
638
00:33:08,236 --> 00:33:10,570
{\an8}I don't know
what's more electric in sports
639
00:33:10,571 --> 00:33:12,990
{\an8}other than the Red Sox
and the Yankees rivalry,
640
00:33:12,991 --> 00:33:15,284
and the way the fans
get into these games.
641
00:33:15,910 --> 00:33:20,581
That was one of the most intense
games I've ever been a part of.
642
00:33:21,165 --> 00:33:25,503
We head to the 12th.
Red Sox three, Yankees three.
643
00:33:26,713 --> 00:33:27,880
One-two.
644
00:33:28,965 --> 00:33:31,299
He loops that to left field,
gonna be a tough play.
645
00:33:31,300 --> 00:33:32,926
Jeter on the run,
makes the play!
646
00:33:32,927 --> 00:33:36,054
- Wow!
- And flies into the stands! Oh!
647
00:33:36,055 --> 00:33:38,682
Talking about a ball
that goes down the left field line
648
00:33:38,683 --> 00:33:42,769
that, really, you think nobody has
a chance to catch. And then he,
649
00:33:42,770 --> 00:33:44,105
being Jeter,
650
00:33:45,314 --> 00:33:47,025
doesn't give up on the ball.
651
00:33:47,984 --> 00:33:50,110
Risking life and limb, okay?
652
00:33:50,111 --> 00:33:53,864
Going in there, let's be honest,
into the seats headfirst.
653
00:33:53,865 --> 00:33:55,700
And he could've got really hurt.
654
00:33:56,534 --> 00:33:58,953
Oh, what a play by Jeter!
655
00:33:59,579 --> 00:34:02,873
You can't believe it!
He raced, he caught it.
656
00:34:02,874 --> 00:34:04,499
And boy, did he get beat up.
657
00:34:04,500 --> 00:34:08,712
He is beat up and
bloody in his face.
658
00:34:08,713 --> 00:34:10,505
Derek Jeter, what a player.
659
00:34:10,506 --> 00:34:12,424
You can't say enough about him.
660
00:34:12,425 --> 00:34:15,261
What is he? He's a
winner, that's what he is.
661
00:34:15,803 --> 00:34:18,263
The catch was okay,
right? The catch was a catch.
662
00:34:18,264 --> 00:34:22,602
And he dove, like, full
momentum, drills his chin.
663
00:34:23,519 --> 00:34:25,062
But, like, there's
a statement there.
664
00:34:25,063 --> 00:34:27,147
Where's the camera go? Right
to Nomar in the dugout.
665
00:34:27,148 --> 00:34:29,649
When your star
player hasn't been on the field
666
00:34:29,650 --> 00:34:32,903
and you have to go to battle without him,
these are... You know, they lift you up.
667
00:34:32,904 --> 00:34:35,989
You say, "Okay, you don't want
to play? We'll win without you."
668
00:34:37,575 --> 00:34:39,701
- Everybody else on the top step.- Yeah.
669
00:34:39,702 --> 00:34:43,914
At some point during the game, Nomar,
who had said he was totally unavailable,
670
00:34:43,915 --> 00:34:46,959
had gone up to Tito when
the game got so dramatic.
671
00:34:48,336 --> 00:34:50,463
Told him he was
available to pinch hit.
672
00:34:51,464 --> 00:34:53,716
And I'm like,
"Oh, man." You know? Like...
673
00:34:54,634 --> 00:34:56,135
I was in a tough spot.
674
00:34:57,053 --> 00:34:58,596
So, stayed away.
675
00:34:59,806 --> 00:35:03,058
Flaherty hits it, in
the air to left field, back, up,
676
00:35:03,059 --> 00:35:04,768
and it'll one hop the wall,
677
00:35:04,769 --> 00:35:08,271
{\an8}and the Yankees will
win it in 13 innings.
678
00:35:08,272 --> 00:35:11,441
{\an8}A crushing defeat
tonight for the Red Sox,
679
00:35:11,442 --> 00:35:14,320
{\an8}and the sweep by the
New York Yankees.
680
00:35:14,987 --> 00:35:18,949
They win it 5-4 in 13 innings.
681
00:35:24,413 --> 00:35:25,957
Yeah!
682
00:35:27,500 --> 00:35:28,500
Whoo!
683
00:35:28,501 --> 00:35:30,753
- Yeah, suck on that!
- Suck my cock!
684
00:35:32,130 --> 00:35:35,007
Then we end up losing the
game, and it's a shit storm.
685
00:35:41,097 --> 00:35:44,141
We go to Atlanta the next
day, and Theo showed up.
686
00:35:48,187 --> 00:35:50,565
You know, you wanna show your
face when times are tough.
687
00:35:52,066 --> 00:35:54,068
Get a deep
fly, wins the game anyway.
688
00:35:54,777 --> 00:35:57,154
{\an8}And there is a deep fly, and
the Braves are gonna win it.
689
00:35:57,155 --> 00:35:59,198
{\an8}Another excruciating loss.
690
00:36:02,660 --> 00:36:04,452
So I go down
there, and, you know,
691
00:36:04,453 --> 00:36:06,121
I talk to a bunch of players,
692
00:36:06,122 --> 00:36:09,541
got sort of an understanding
for the feeling in the clubhouse
693
00:36:09,542 --> 00:36:12,753
and the pulse of things,
and talked to Nomar, and...
694
00:36:13,838 --> 00:36:15,965
You know, it wasn't...
There was some tension.
695
00:36:16,841 --> 00:36:18,967
His situation was
a bit of a burden.
696
00:36:18,968 --> 00:36:20,177
Like, it was part of why
697
00:36:20,178 --> 00:36:23,306
things weren't flowing
as well in the clubhouse.
698
00:36:24,182 --> 00:36:26,433
We weren't playing well.
We weren't gelling well.
699
00:36:26,434 --> 00:36:28,310
There was just stuff going on.
700
00:36:28,311 --> 00:36:31,146
There starts becoming
a lot of, like, noise.
701
00:36:31,147 --> 00:36:33,440
Were you
pissed? Are you still mad?
702
00:36:33,441 --> 00:36:36,902
You know, we were dealing with the
Nomar stuff from spring training,
703
00:36:36,903 --> 00:36:38,570
um, which was tiring.
704
00:36:38,571 --> 00:36:41,656
There's been
suggestions that you were selfish.
705
00:36:41,657 --> 00:36:46,578
I kinda told him, I said, "You know,
maybe it's just time to think about..."
706
00:36:46,579 --> 00:36:49,289
"You know, let's..." And...
And, you know, he was kinda...
707
00:36:49,290 --> 00:36:50,665
I think that's where he was.
708
00:36:50,666 --> 00:36:53,336
- Think about moving on?
- Yeah.
709
00:36:59,467 --> 00:37:01,027
They had too much talent.
710
00:37:01,677 --> 00:37:02,803
They were too good.
711
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:07,642
Curt Schilling, Foulke, Pedro,
Manny, David, all these guys.
712
00:37:09,185 --> 00:37:12,104
And they're playing .500
ball for three months.
713
00:37:13,189 --> 00:37:14,565
That's a long time.
714
00:37:16,275 --> 00:37:18,568
More of the same
for the Red Sox and the Yankees
715
00:37:18,569 --> 00:37:20,446
in this 2004 season.
716
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:24,074
{\an8}New York takes Game 1 of
this three-game series.
717
00:37:24,075 --> 00:37:27,369
{\an8}Their lead now nine and a
half games over the Red Sox.
718
00:37:27,370 --> 00:37:30,205
{\an8}Frustration comes
to mind, the word frustration,
719
00:37:30,206 --> 00:37:34,209
{\an8}because this club has so much talent but
hasn't been able to get on that roll.
720
00:37:34,210 --> 00:37:36,336
Yeah,
there's that missing element,
721
00:37:36,337 --> 00:37:39,590
missing part of the chemistry that,
uh, hasn't... hasn't developed yet.
722
00:37:40,508 --> 00:37:44,886
{\an8}You know, sometimes it just takes one
catalytic event to get things going.
723
00:37:44,887 --> 00:37:48,015
We're trying everything we
can, and has to happen soon.
724
00:37:48,516 --> 00:37:51,643
Really don't like the... the
tone of things right now,
725
00:37:51,644 --> 00:37:53,937
and the way we're playing
is, uh, not acceptable.
726
00:38:00,236 --> 00:38:01,696
Forecast was awful.
727
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:04,864
We were down to, you
know, a very thin bullpen.
728
00:38:07,994 --> 00:38:11,496
We might not be able to get this
thing in. Do we just bang it early?
729
00:38:11,497 --> 00:38:14,125
You know, and we could
probably use a day off anyway.
730
00:38:15,918 --> 00:38:17,962
I remember
riding with Varitek in.
731
00:38:19,130 --> 00:38:21,548
He was pissed off already,
coming to the game.
732
00:38:21,549 --> 00:38:23,550
Like, he was already...
He just was...
733
00:38:23,551 --> 00:38:25,093
He was wound up.
734
00:38:25,094 --> 00:38:29,014
Just like every, I think, day
game after a night game, uh,
735
00:38:29,015 --> 00:38:30,598
you're probably
cranky in the morning.
736
00:38:30,599 --> 00:38:32,852
I think we
stopped and got a coffee.
737
00:38:34,312 --> 00:38:36,939
Lost a tough one,
you know, the night before.
738
00:38:37,523 --> 00:38:40,067
Next day, you show up
and the field's a mess.
739
00:38:40,901 --> 00:38:42,319
We go out to walk the field,
740
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:44,487
and Joe Torre's out there
and one of the umpires,
741
00:38:44,488 --> 00:38:46,782
and we're gonna
cancel this game.
742
00:38:49,577 --> 00:38:54,039
I get back into the clubhouse,
and our players are adamant.
743
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:55,249
"We're playing."
744
00:38:56,250 --> 00:38:59,502
Varitek, I mean, myself,
I don't know, Billy Mueller...
745
00:38:59,503 --> 00:39:01,921
There was just a group of dudes
that were, like, irritated.
746
00:39:01,922 --> 00:39:03,006
And like, "We're playing."
747
00:39:03,007 --> 00:39:04,592
We wanted to play, like...
748
00:39:05,343 --> 00:39:07,010
we've gotta get the
wheels spinning.
749
00:39:07,011 --> 00:39:09,846
We gotta get the wheels
churning in the right direction.
750
00:39:09,847 --> 00:39:12,932
{\an8}Like, "We need a win. We need
to start this going now."
751
00:39:12,933 --> 00:39:15,436
That man, when Tek gets to talk?
752
00:39:19,607 --> 00:39:20,774
I was like, "Oh shit."
753
00:39:20,775 --> 00:39:21,983
You know?
754
00:39:21,984 --> 00:39:23,693
Like, he don't say much,
755
00:39:23,694 --> 00:39:26,197
but when he say something, you
better pay attention. You know?
756
00:39:27,448 --> 00:39:29,366
That's why we call
him the captain.
757
00:39:29,367 --> 00:39:32,703
So I called Joe, and I
said, "Joe, hang on."
758
00:39:33,287 --> 00:39:35,915
I said, "I might have been a
little premature out there."
759
00:39:37,291 --> 00:39:40,336
I was pissed because they
had told us the game was called.
760
00:39:41,045 --> 00:39:43,421
I don't know if Theo talked
the umpires out of it
761
00:39:43,422 --> 00:39:46,801
or whatever the heck it was, but I
didn't think it was the right thing.
762
00:39:48,135 --> 00:39:49,762
We're gonna play this game.
763
00:39:52,306 --> 00:39:55,016
The Yankees were... were livid.
764
00:39:55,017 --> 00:39:59,062
About two o'clock, roughly, the
two managers walked out on the field,
765
00:39:59,063 --> 00:40:01,732
and it was deemed that
this field was unplayable.
766
00:40:02,316 --> 00:40:05,985
The New York Yankees went so
far as to start the team buses.
767
00:40:05,986 --> 00:40:08,863
Players were showering and
walking out of the stadium.
768
00:40:08,864 --> 00:40:13,118
At which point the Boston Red Sox
overruled that earlier decision
769
00:40:13,119 --> 00:40:14,911
and said "No, we're
going to play."
770
00:40:14,912 --> 00:40:18,748
I remember I'm in a pair of shorts,
T-shirt, and no... no shoes,
771
00:40:18,749 --> 00:40:20,750
and I'm sleeping
inside the weight room.
772
00:40:20,751 --> 00:40:25,673
And I get woken up, and they tell me
that the game is on in 30 minutes.
773
00:40:26,549 --> 00:40:28,466
I need an hour just
to get prepared,
774
00:40:28,467 --> 00:40:31,511
they said game on in 30 minutes, and
I'm in a pair of shorts and a T-shirt.
775
00:40:31,512 --> 00:40:33,555
It was a nightmare.
776
00:40:33,556 --> 00:40:36,517
Arroyo in trouble,
first and third, nobody out.
777
00:40:37,059 --> 00:40:41,146
And Matsui into left center field.
That's gonna put the Yankees on top.
778
00:40:41,147 --> 00:40:43,940
{\an8}You're facing one of
the greatest lineups in the game,
779
00:40:43,941 --> 00:40:45,900
and you feel like you're
completely unprepared.
780
00:40:45,901 --> 00:40:47,570
He was getting hit around a bit.
781
00:40:48,154 --> 00:40:49,529
Not a whole lot of command.
782
00:40:49,530 --> 00:40:51,156
Breaking ball, misses.
783
00:40:51,157 --> 00:40:54,742
He's gonna strike, and Varitek says,
"Bronson, calm it down a little bit."
784
00:40:54,743 --> 00:40:57,620
They're leaning
out over the plate,
785
00:40:57,621 --> 00:41:00,249
forcing him to use
his fastball more.
786
00:41:01,792 --> 00:41:02,792
Strike!
787
00:41:04,670 --> 00:41:10,216
Third baseman,
number 13, Alex Rodriguez.
788
00:41:13,387 --> 00:41:15,805
The good hitters forced
you to pitch them in,
789
00:41:15,806 --> 00:41:17,892
or at least show them in enough.
790
00:41:18,476 --> 00:41:20,686
And you always have
to go in on Alex.
791
00:41:21,645 --> 00:41:23,856
And, uh, he ends up hitting him.
792
00:41:30,154 --> 00:41:31,738
Alex Rodriguez is drilled.
793
00:41:31,739 --> 00:41:34,909
I was disappointed in myself I hit
him, 'cause I'm trying to get an out.
794
00:41:36,327 --> 00:41:39,871
And he didn't see it that way, and
he's... he's just screaming at me.
795
00:41:39,872 --> 00:41:42,333
"Throw the mother-effing
ball across the plate."
796
00:41:44,460 --> 00:41:47,504
He was yelling at
Bronson, yelling at Bronson.
797
00:41:47,505 --> 00:41:49,673
There's a few F-words.
798
00:41:50,174 --> 00:41:52,759
Then it turns into
F-words to me.
799
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:57,180
And I think that's when Varitek said,
"I'll let you say 'Fuck you' once."
800
00:41:57,181 --> 00:41:58,640
"You're not gonna say it twice."
801
00:41:58,641 --> 00:42:00,768
You're like, "Holy crap,
this is gonna happen?"
802
00:42:01,727 --> 00:42:03,520
You're waiting, you're waiting.
803
00:42:03,521 --> 00:42:05,439
- And we know what he said.
- Go.
804
00:42:06,190 --> 00:42:08,900
Varitek and A-Rod going at it.
805
00:42:14,156 --> 00:42:16,492
Schilling is right
in the middle of it.
806
00:42:16,992 --> 00:42:19,994
You kinda go out there and your...
your head's on a swivel, one,
807
00:42:19,995 --> 00:42:21,246
because they're big and strong
808
00:42:21,247 --> 00:42:25,416
and you don't want somebody to
accidentally knock the shit out of you.
809
00:42:25,417 --> 00:42:27,211
Or maybe not accidentally.
810
00:42:28,712 --> 00:42:31,257
Mass chaos, people pulling,
pushing, getting in between.
811
00:42:32,007 --> 00:42:34,133
Holding onto people's jerseys
for that split second,
812
00:42:34,134 --> 00:42:35,927
getting punched in
the side of the head.
813
00:42:35,928 --> 00:42:38,430
And now another
fight off to the side.
814
00:42:39,390 --> 00:42:44,311
All of a sudden, Tanyon Sturtze
grabs Gabe Kapler around the neck.
815
00:42:45,312 --> 00:42:47,021
Trot sees that.
816
00:42:47,022 --> 00:42:51,277
Trot's now trying to choke,
grab Sturtze's eye off,
817
00:42:51,860 --> 00:42:53,861
pull his hair out,
whatever it's gonna take.
818
00:42:53,862 --> 00:42:56,781
Now we got, like, it's just,
like, protecting Sturtze,
819
00:42:56,782 --> 00:42:58,367
'cause Trot is trying
to kill Sturtze.
820
00:42:59,952 --> 00:43:02,745
I don't remember
much. I don't know where I was.
821
00:43:02,746 --> 00:43:05,332
I think I just saw
a little bit of red.
822
00:43:09,378 --> 00:43:12,381
Sturtze is bleeding
from the left ear.
823
00:43:14,258 --> 00:43:18,470
Kapler and Sturtze, I believe,
were the two that splintered off.
824
00:43:20,431 --> 00:43:22,640
That's where my attention went
825
00:43:22,641 --> 00:43:27,896
after the initial fight was
between Varitek and Alex Rodriguez.
826
00:43:29,023 --> 00:43:30,148
I have a vivid memory
827
00:43:30,149 --> 00:43:32,900
of sitting behind the plate
with Theo in that game.
828
00:43:32,901 --> 00:43:35,028
And when the fight started,
he jumped out of his seat,
829
00:43:35,029 --> 00:43:36,654
and he was, like,
pumped. Like, "Ah!"
830
00:43:36,655 --> 00:43:39,241
"Finally, we, like, show
some energy this year."
831
00:43:42,620 --> 00:43:46,165
I couldn't believe Tek
put his hands in his face like that.
832
00:43:47,583 --> 00:43:50,084
I have a perfect angle when
he goes down to scoop him up.
833
00:43:50,085 --> 00:43:51,753
I thought for sure he was gonna,
834
00:43:51,754 --> 00:43:54,464
like, Andre the Giant, Hulk
Hogan, just body slam him.
835
00:43:54,465 --> 00:43:56,549
Every barroom and household
836
00:43:56,550 --> 00:43:59,177
used to be, like, Cardinal
Cushing, John F. Kennedy.
837
00:43:59,178 --> 00:44:02,889
Now it's Jason Varitek stuffing his
mitt into Alex Rodriguez's face.
838
00:44:02,890 --> 00:44:06,769
Varitek hit him
with his mask on, that's the thing.
839
00:44:08,354 --> 00:44:10,355
That's what you think of
in the moment. When you...
840
00:44:10,356 --> 00:44:11,939
Play's at the plate,
whatever you do.
841
00:44:11,940 --> 00:44:14,150
Like, "Oh, time out. I
forgot I had my mask on."
842
00:44:14,151 --> 00:44:16,528
"I wear this all the time.
I'm gonna go put this there."
843
00:44:18,739 --> 00:44:19,656
It is what it is.
844
00:44:19,657 --> 00:44:25,787
It's only Alex Rodriguez and
Jason Varitek ejected from this game.
845
00:44:25,788 --> 00:44:27,747
Yankees suck!
846
00:44:27,748 --> 00:44:30,626
Now a huge ovation for Varitek.
847
00:44:31,251 --> 00:44:32,710
Who is, in so many ways,
848
00:44:32,711 --> 00:44:35,713
the rock and the leader of
this Boston Red Sox team.
849
00:44:35,714 --> 00:44:38,300
Francona gets thrown out
the next inning. Arguing.
850
00:44:39,510 --> 00:44:41,845
{\an8}Terry Francona just got ejected.
851
00:44:42,888 --> 00:44:44,263
{\an8}We were kind of teetering
852
00:44:44,264 --> 00:44:46,182
on whether we were
gonna go south
853
00:44:46,183 --> 00:44:48,268
or make it to the postseason.
854
00:44:49,186 --> 00:44:52,647
{\an8}Line drive for a
hit for Enrique Wilson.
855
00:44:52,648 --> 00:44:54,274
Two more runs will score.
856
00:44:55,150 --> 00:44:56,442
We needed to win that game.
857
00:44:58,237 --> 00:45:00,406
That's well hit into left field.
858
00:45:01,740 --> 00:45:02,741
Off the Monster.
859
00:45:03,325 --> 00:45:07,287
{\an8}One run scores, and the Red
Sox are right back in it.
860
00:45:07,788 --> 00:45:10,456
{\an8}Let's go Red Sox!
861
00:45:10,457 --> 00:45:12,542
{\an8}Let's go Red Sox!
862
00:45:12,543 --> 00:45:13,711
The 0-2 pitch.
863
00:45:14,211 --> 00:45:18,590
Garciaparra hits it to left center
field, it's down for extra bases.
864
00:45:20,718 --> 00:45:22,635
The Red Sox will not go quietly,
865
00:45:22,636 --> 00:45:25,264
even with Rivera on
the mound for New York.
866
00:45:28,517 --> 00:45:30,977
{\an8}Millar has three singles today.
867
00:45:30,978 --> 00:45:33,105
{\an8}Hit three homers last night.
868
00:45:34,106 --> 00:45:38,068
{\an8}A flare. It's a one-run game.
And the tying run is on.
869
00:45:38,569 --> 00:45:40,903
{\an8}Millar with his
fourth hit of the day.
870
00:45:45,325 --> 00:45:48,245
You know, the Yankees
are the measuring stick at the time.
871
00:45:49,079 --> 00:45:52,875
In those moments when you play
them, where do you see yourself?
872
00:45:54,710 --> 00:45:56,879
The emotion, the rivalry.
873
00:45:57,379 --> 00:45:59,756
You're trying to
find how you fit in.
874
00:45:59,757 --> 00:46:03,844
Either wrap your arms around it,
or, you know, it's gonna eat you up.
875
00:46:05,262 --> 00:46:08,307
A 1-0 to Bill
Mueller. Homered last night.
876
00:46:09,391 --> 00:46:10,808
- Strike!
- One ball, one strike.
877
00:46:10,809 --> 00:46:12,770
His best pitch was a cutter.
878
00:46:13,353 --> 00:46:17,648
It was one of the later-breaking
cutters you'd ever seen.
879
00:46:17,649 --> 00:46:22,321
It was so difficult to,
um, have success off of.
880
00:46:24,364 --> 00:46:28,117
If you're ever gonna have
success, it's a mistake by him.
881
00:46:28,118 --> 00:46:31,079
You're only maybe gonna get
one in a season, type thing.
882
00:46:31,663 --> 00:46:34,166
Now Mueller's
sitting on a 3-1 pitch.
883
00:46:38,754 --> 00:46:41,297
I got that one pitch,
and... and... and I hit it.
884
00:46:41,298 --> 00:46:43,758
And, uh, man, it
was, you know...
885
00:46:43,759 --> 00:46:46,594
Swing, and
a high drive deep to right,
886
00:46:46,595 --> 00:46:50,348
back goes Sheffield near
the bullpen, and it is gone!
887
00:46:50,349 --> 00:46:52,725
And the Red Sox have won it
888
00:46:52,726 --> 00:46:58,314
on a walk-off two-run homer by
Bill Mueller off Mariano Rivera!
889
00:46:58,315 --> 00:46:59,816
Can you believe it?
890
00:47:02,778 --> 00:47:05,656
{\an8}First time I ever
recall saying "Can you believe it?"
891
00:47:06,156 --> 00:47:08,992
{\an8}That gave that team
some belief in itself.
892
00:47:14,998 --> 00:47:17,917
So I ended up, uh,
going down into the clubhouse.
893
00:47:17,918 --> 00:47:19,585
I'm with Tek, a couple
of the other guys,
894
00:47:19,586 --> 00:47:22,171
and we're watching the
ninth inning unfold on TV,
895
00:47:22,172 --> 00:47:25,758
and all of a sudden you feel the
rattle of this... the grandstand,
896
00:47:25,759 --> 00:47:27,051
and you hear this roar.
897
00:47:27,052 --> 00:47:28,845
Tek says, like,
"No fucking way!"
898
00:47:28,846 --> 00:47:32,431
And jumps up off the couch. I thought he
was gonna hit his head on the ceiling.
899
00:47:32,432 --> 00:47:35,977
It was just a huge
moment for... for us
900
00:47:35,978 --> 00:47:38,063
to come back and win that game.
901
00:47:41,191 --> 00:47:42,984
We go two-and-oh that day.
902
00:47:42,985 --> 00:47:45,487
We win the fight, and
then we win the game.
903
00:47:46,864 --> 00:47:48,823
This is when we became a team.
904
00:47:48,824 --> 00:47:51,242
I remember I was
in my underwear.
905
00:47:51,243 --> 00:47:54,287
So I'm standing at the door, and
I stood there with every pitcher,
906
00:47:54,288 --> 00:47:56,706
every guy that came out of the
game and high-fived everybody.
907
00:47:56,707 --> 00:47:58,207
It was... It was a good day.
908
00:47:58,208 --> 00:47:59,918
{\an8}It's a huge win for us.
909
00:48:00,460 --> 00:48:03,547
{\an8}And, man, it'll be bigger
if we make it bigger,
910
00:48:04,047 --> 00:48:08,009
{\an8}and we... we let this catapult us
and we... we do something with it.
911
00:48:08,010 --> 00:48:09,970
{\an8}That's what'll
really make it big.
912
00:48:14,349 --> 00:48:16,809
We all say, like, that's the
moment things turned around.
913
00:48:16,810 --> 00:48:19,145
But we didn't play
great after it.
914
00:48:19,146 --> 00:48:23,150
Like, we still couldn't
shake this malaise.
915
00:48:23,734 --> 00:48:26,486
And Manny strikes
out to end the ballgame.
916
00:48:26,987 --> 00:48:29,614
Meanwhile, the Red
Sox continue to frustrate,
917
00:48:29,615 --> 00:48:31,407
just when you think they
were going on a roll
918
00:48:31,408 --> 00:48:33,075
at the end of the
Yankees series...
919
00:48:33,076 --> 00:48:33,993
We ask ourselves...
920
00:48:33,994 --> 00:48:36,747
We're analyzing
what's going on with the team.
921
00:48:37,247 --> 00:48:39,582
We felt like our fatal
flaw was our defense.
922
00:48:43,462 --> 00:48:46,047
And shortstop is the most
important defensive position,
923
00:48:46,048 --> 00:48:48,050
it's the most obvious
place to fix it.
924
00:48:49,343 --> 00:48:52,511
We were trying to consider, you
know, what we were gonna get
925
00:48:52,512 --> 00:48:55,932
out of, kind of, an
arguably disgruntled Nomar,
926
00:48:55,933 --> 00:48:57,099
and diminished Nomar,
927
00:48:57,100 --> 00:49:00,395
for the next couple months versus
the possibility of trading him.
928
00:49:01,980 --> 00:49:05,775
You're not really thinking
about, like, the ramifications
929
00:49:05,776 --> 00:49:07,652
of trading a franchise icon.
930
00:49:07,653 --> 00:49:10,072
You're just wrapped up in
making the team better.
931
00:49:10,948 --> 00:49:14,117
Remember, Nomar had
been unbelievable for Boston.
932
00:49:16,370 --> 00:49:18,288
He was one of the
best I've ever seen.
933
00:49:19,539 --> 00:49:20,456
Trade deadline.
934
00:49:20,457 --> 00:49:22,875
People are wondering if the Red
Sox are going to do anything.
935
00:49:22,876 --> 00:49:25,252
They'll get something
done. I don't know how major.
936
00:49:25,253 --> 00:49:27,296
I don't think it involves
Nomar Garciaparra.
937
00:49:27,297 --> 00:49:30,174
I doubted it'd happen
'cause it was so big, it was so bold,
938
00:49:30,175 --> 00:49:31,634
and Theo was so young.
939
00:49:31,635 --> 00:49:34,221
And I just said, "They won't
have the stones to do this."
940
00:49:39,393 --> 00:49:41,978
This has been a
hectic day here at the ballpark,
941
00:49:41,979 --> 00:49:44,730
and we were kinda just hovering
around down in the clubhouse.
942
00:49:44,731 --> 00:49:47,817
You knew something was up, you
didn't know how big it was gonna be.
943
00:49:47,818 --> 00:49:49,026
And when we all got ejected
944
00:49:49,027 --> 00:49:51,154
from the clubhouse, we
knew it was pretty big.
945
00:49:51,655 --> 00:49:55,200
This, Don, has certainly been a
strange day in Red Sox history.
946
00:49:55,909 --> 00:49:58,077
Hey. Theo. Um, we got a deal.
947
00:49:59,287 --> 00:50:01,163
My jaw
nearly fell on the ground.
948
00:50:01,164 --> 00:50:03,833
I went, "Nomar what? No
more Nomar in Boston."
949
00:50:03,834 --> 00:50:07,003
Nomar's gone! I mean,
he's gone. It's hard to believe.
950
00:50:07,004 --> 00:50:10,048
Hey, this is the part of the
job I... I absolutely hate.
951
00:50:10,549 --> 00:50:13,092
Nomar Garciaparra
was going to the Cubs.
952
00:50:13,093 --> 00:50:15,052
We got Cabrera and Mientkiewicz.
953
00:50:15,053 --> 00:50:17,430
You got a Gold
Glove shortstop, Cabrera.
954
00:50:17,431 --> 00:50:19,640
Of course, Mientkiewicz
coming over from Minnesota.
955
00:50:19,641 --> 00:50:21,977
He's been a Gold
Glove-caliber first baseman.
956
00:50:25,355 --> 00:50:27,648
Uh, Nomar gets traded.
957
00:50:27,649 --> 00:50:33,320
And Doug Mientkiewicz, uh, just walks over
from the, uh, Minnesota Twins locker room
958
00:50:33,321 --> 00:50:37,616
and just starts putting
his stuff down in a locker.
959
00:50:37,617 --> 00:50:39,202
We're going, "Oh my God."
960
00:50:45,751 --> 00:50:48,544
I very distinctly remember
the trade with Nomar.
961
00:50:48,545 --> 00:50:51,630
Very... It was very jarring, very
shocking. I thought Nomar was...
962
00:50:51,631 --> 00:50:54,176
was obviously a staple here
that wasn't gonna go anywhere.
963
00:50:54,801 --> 00:50:57,386
{\an8}I've always said, you know, this
was a place that I, well, you know,
964
00:50:57,387 --> 00:50:59,764
{\an8}I started, and I always
wanted to finish. You know?
965
00:50:59,765 --> 00:51:01,307
{\an8}That's obviously
not gonna happen.
966
00:51:01,308 --> 00:51:04,477
{\an8}You know, wanna spend your
entire career with one team.
967
00:51:04,478 --> 00:51:07,938
{\an8}Um, but, uh... but at
the same time, you know,
968
00:51:07,939 --> 00:51:09,899
{\an8}they can take the
shirt off my back,
969
00:51:09,900 --> 00:51:11,734
{\an8}but they can't take
away the memories I got.
970
00:51:14,529 --> 00:51:18,365
The fact that Theo made
that deal showed he believed
971
00:51:18,366 --> 00:51:21,369
that he knew what it was gonna
take to win a championship.
972
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:26,917
He's from here. He knew the
difference. He knew the implications.
973
00:51:27,584 --> 00:51:29,168
I go to do the press conference.
974
00:51:29,169 --> 00:51:32,546
In your opinion, this team got
significantly better with this deal today?
975
00:51:32,547 --> 00:51:35,758
I think we improved, yeah. I
thought we had a... a decent shot
976
00:51:35,759 --> 00:51:39,637
at the postseason, um, by
maintaining the status quo,
977
00:51:39,638 --> 00:51:43,140
but in my mind, and in the opinion of
our whole baseball operations staff,
978
00:51:43,141 --> 00:51:44,934
we were not gonna win
the World Series as-is.
979
00:51:44,935 --> 00:51:47,020
All right, thank
you all very much.
980
00:51:48,313 --> 00:51:51,315
Cell phone rings, it's
my twin brother Paul.
981
00:51:51,316 --> 00:51:52,525
He's like, "What did you do?"
982
00:51:52,526 --> 00:51:55,778
"I'm listening to WEEI, and you're
getting absolutely destroyed."
983
00:51:55,779 --> 00:51:58,531
He's getting paid big
money to make these decisions.
984
00:51:58,532 --> 00:52:01,033
So let's hope that he
knows what he's doing.
985
00:52:01,034 --> 00:52:03,452
Sox without Nomar?
Nomar's New England.
986
00:52:03,453 --> 00:52:05,287
You think of Boston,
you think of Nomar.
987
00:52:05,288 --> 00:52:06,413
Well, see you guys.
988
00:52:06,414 --> 00:52:08,165
My thought,
it's a horrible trade.
989
00:52:08,166 --> 00:52:10,167
Cabrera's not
gonna win the World Series.
990
00:52:10,168 --> 00:52:12,670
Nomar Garciaparra can win the
World Series for you, absolutely.
991
00:52:12,671 --> 00:52:14,797
What on earth did
you guys just do?
992
00:52:14,798 --> 00:52:17,424
You just traded Nomar
for a couple of dudes
993
00:52:17,425 --> 00:52:20,219
that aren't great hitters that
you say are good defenders.
994
00:52:20,220 --> 00:52:22,013
Like, that's what
you got back for him?
995
00:52:26,852 --> 00:52:28,435
Do the press conference,
996
00:52:28,436 --> 00:52:30,688
I walk back into
our basement office,
997
00:52:30,689 --> 00:52:31,856
everyone's gone.
998
00:52:31,857 --> 00:52:35,443
There's not a soul in there. Everyone
had gone home to their families.
999
00:52:37,946 --> 00:52:40,781
And, you know, your mind
runs through those scenarios.
1000
00:52:40,782 --> 00:52:42,742
Like, "What if Nomar goes off?"
1001
00:52:43,368 --> 00:52:44,744
"We miss the playoffs?"
1002
00:52:49,457 --> 00:52:51,084
Might never live this down.
81141
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