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[Donald Trump] Citizen Kane was really
about accumulation,
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and at the end of the accumulation
you see what happens,
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and it’s not necessarily all positive.
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I think he learned in Kane
that maybe wealth isn't everything,
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because he had the wealth,
but he didn’t have the happiness.
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The table getting larger and larger
and larger...
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with he and his wife getting further
and further apart...
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as he got wealthier and wealthier.
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Perhaps, I can understand that.
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[male interviewer] Now, if you could give
Charles Foster Kane advice,
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what would you say to him?
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Get yourself a different woman.
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-[woman] Hey.
-[man] I definitely had it.
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[Nikki Haskell] You know,
it was very strange.
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I kept hearing Donald was cheating
on Ivana, but I never believed it.
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It just, like... didn’t seem possible
that that could happen.
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I actually got in a couple
of fights with people.
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"You don’t know what you're talking about.
Don’t be ridiculous."
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So, I told Ivana.
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We had had lunch at the Russian Tea Room
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and she said, "Well, let's call him."
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[telephone ringing]
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Then she said, "Nicky has something
she wants to tell you."
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And I proudly got on the phone...
and I told him.
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[inaudible dialogue]
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He goes, "That's so sweet of you.
I really appreciate you calling me.
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And I appreciate you taking the time."
And you know, "This could never happen."
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And he just totally denied it.
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But very calm, "Thank you so much
for defending me."
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Uh...
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"You're really a great friend, Nicky."
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So long.
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Why would he ever have his girlfriend
in the lodge
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when his wife and kids
were on the mountain with him?
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It just makes no sense.
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[Haskell] I was talking to a
girlfriend of mine in Aspen.
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She goes, "Oh, my God, you are not
going to believe what's happening.
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Ivana is on the ski lift
and she's there with Donald
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and Marla Maples, this girl,
you know, he's been going with."
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And I'm like, "What?"
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She's, like, attacking Ivana
on the slopes, saying to her,
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"I want your husband
and he's not in love with you."
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And she's crying. And I'm like,
"What? What are you telling me?"
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[Sue Carswell] I remember feeling
sorry for Ivana.
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She had been sucker-punched
on the slopes in Aspen.
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[Dick Clark] Fifteen seconds from now...
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-it'll be 1990.
-[crowd cheers]
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Five, four, three, two, one...
Happy New Year!
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[crowd cheers]
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I would say that the Trump fiasco really
started the '90s off.
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My editor called me in and said,
"We want you to cover the Trump beat."
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[male reporter] When New Yorkers pick up
their tabloids,
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The Daily News and The Post, each morning,
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they expect the headlines
to pack a wallop.
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[Haskell]
Everything seemed to be fine.
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They weren’t fighting.
I thought it was just going to blow over.
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And then Liz Smith got it, called her,
or she called her, and that was it.
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[inaudible dialogue]
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One day...
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she phoned me out of the blue,
and she was crying...
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She said, "Liz, would you come
to the Plaza and meet me?"
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So, I got dressed, got a taxi,
went to the Plaza...
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and she threw her arms around me...
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like I was her best friend.
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And she said,
"Donald doesn’t want me anymore."
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I began to talk her into letting
me write something.
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Finally, I went to him.
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And he said, "I don’t want to sleep
with a woman who's had children."
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And I said, "But they're your children."
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And he said, "I know, I know.
I want to have an open marriage."
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Michael Kennedy, Ivana’s lawyer,
called me, and said, "Write the story."
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[Carswell] Donald’s in Japan.
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Liz Smith plots with Ivana
how to make this come out.
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The story breaks when he’s
on the plane coming back.
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You didn’t have the internet to get
your word out,
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so he had to stay quiet
for a couple of hours.
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The papers just exploded.
The world exploded.
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Communism is collapsing,
the Germanys are reuniting,
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South Africa is changing,
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but in Manhattan the story is
"Trump versus Trump."
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I bought the Post, which I never do.
[laughs]
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[female interviewer] To read about it?
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Well, look at the photo. Isn't that great?
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[Geraldo Rivera] His divorce from Ivana
was something that was a nuclear event.
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[audience cheers, applauds]
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[Rivera] If you talked about public people
in awkward, private situations,
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this was the most spectacular thing
you could possibly be talking about.
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The real-life divorce story you're
about to hear about is bigger
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than Dynasty, better than Dallas,
and spicier than General Hospital.
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Newspaper circulation is way up,
television news ratings are way up,
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because the people just can’t seem
to get enough.
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Good evening. On this Valentine’s day,
the abandoned wife in what's being billed
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as "the divorce of the decade"
made her first public appearance.
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[crowd clamors]
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[male presenter] Ivana Trump,
the estranged wife
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of real estate tycoon, Donald Trump, kept
a date with the ladies who lunch today,
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attracting a traffic-stopping press hoard
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outside the swanky,
mid-town restaurant, La Grenouille.
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[crowd clamors]
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[Smith]
People were screaming and shouting,
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"Give it to him, Ivana. Make him pay."
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[crowd clamors]
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[Smith] Everybody had been invited
to that birthday party,
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all of her best friends, her own mother...
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her mother-in-law...
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Nobody knew how to act at the party.
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His mother made a real attempt...
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to make the birthday party normal.
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[Carswell] I think they respected
Donald’s marriage to Ivana.
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And I think that...
they were embarrassed by this.
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Donald had gone astray.
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We had a lot of laughs and so forth and...
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-And nobody-- Nobody spoke ill of Donald.
-That's right.
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-[female interviewer] Say that again.
-Nobody spoke ill of Donald.
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Oh, in fact, I don’t think
his name was mentioned until now.
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Who is this?
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That is Donald Trump’s mother
in the backseat of the limousine
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after yesterday's lunch.
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What a wonderfully civil thing
for this woman to do. She shows up.
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She was great. She's a wonderful lady.
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And she got up and said, "Well, I guess
I'm sort of the villain here today.
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But I hate the word 'in-law.'
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I don’t consider Ivana my in-law.
I consider her my daughter."
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[Haskell] Twenty-eight days
on the front page of the paper,
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Donald was having problems in business
and that was a big thing.
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It was just awful. It was terrible.
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[female announcer] Ladies and gentlemen,
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I have the high honor
and the great privilege
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of introducing Chelsea Clinton,
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Hillary Clinton, and our governor
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and the next president
of the United States, Bill Clinton.
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[crowd cheers]
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[Bill Clinton]
I want to especially thank
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Hillary and Chelsea for taking this
big step on our life’s journey together.
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Hillary for being my wife
and friend and partner...
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For the love we've shared
and the work she's done...
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to make life better for the children
and families of this state...
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I ask you to join with us today.
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I believe that together
we can make America great again.
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[crowd applauds, cheers]
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[inaudible dialogue]
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The man who says money means nothing
to him except as a means of keeping score
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may be hurting on his favorite scoreboard.
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Suddenly there is talk
that the Trump financial empire is shaky.
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The most damaging of such suggestions was
published this week in Forbes magazine.
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It says that you have a debt
of about 3.2 billion
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and that you are losing money at the rate
of 40 million dollars a year. True?
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Forbes has been after me for years,
uh, consistently after me.
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They took properties
and devalued the properties.
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They say the Plaza Hotel is not worth
what everybody knows its worth.
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It’s a total hatchet job.
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But it’s all borrowed money.
You have to service the debt.
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Do you know my books?
Why do you say it's borrowed money?
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-Well, if it's not, tell me.
-What right do you have to say--
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-Do you know about borrowed money?
-Let me tell you what I know.
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All I know is what people write about you.
I haven't seen your books.
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-What they write is--
-See, if you were smart,
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-you'd want to see my books.
-I'm not competent
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-to look over your books.
-I can see that you're not--
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An accounting firm
to look over--
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Truly, I can see that you're not competent
to look at the books.
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What happens is, every asset has--
I'm sure you're not gonna play that.
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Every-- But now you might,
because I said I'm sure you won't.
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Every asset-- Every asset has some debt.
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-Okay, how much are you worth?
-I have absolutely no idea.
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-[reporters clamoring]
-[bodyguard] Come on, back off.
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-[Trump] You're kidding?
-[bodyguard] Back off.
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I mean, the proof is, I've-- I've got
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Donald Trump’s
confidential financial statement,
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-okay? I'll tell you what it says.
-[man] I guess it’s not confidential
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-if you've got it--
-No, we've printed it
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-in the Inquirer. He's got two--
-[audience laughs]
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Philadelphia Inquirer.
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He's got $210 million dollars
in cash and stocks.
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You dig back into the back of it
and you find out that he's borrowed
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from a dozen banks a hundred
and ninety million of them.
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It's all borrowed money.
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I think that he was really very nimble
in his response to this crisis.
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He was highly leveraged,
he had all kinds of debt,
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and he was trying to take the notoriety
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and make the notoriety affect
his bottom line in a positive way.
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He wanted to make money off it.
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Trump’s problem is that he doesn’t have
enough cash at the moment
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to meet
all the interest payments he's got.
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And do we know what we're talking about?
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And in a capitalist marketplace,
where so much is dependent
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upon what the customer thinks about you,
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can media poison...
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the minds of the customer to the extent
that you are unfairly victimized?
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I have a brilliant answer
to this question...
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[audience laughs]
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but I will not have time to give it.
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I'm sorry. It seems coincidental,
but I want to know how much all this
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has to do with Marla Maples,
'cause all of a sudden it seems like
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America hates Donald Trump.
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[reporters clamoring]
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[male reporter] Mr. Trump, can you tell us
why you're suing your wife?
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He would either release
something negative about Ivana,
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or, more likely,
something positive about himself.
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"I will get through this.
I will survive this.
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I had no idea this was happening,
but life goes on."
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[male reporter 2]
Did Ivana violate the agreement?
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[reporter] Tell me what you think
of the St. Regis hotel.
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[reporter 2]
Do you feel she violated the agreement?
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[Trump] The scrutiny has become so much.
I'm not a politician.
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I'm not in public office.
I'm not under the eye in theory.
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The story is a story about two people
that grow apart,
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and frankly, I don’t think it should
be covered the way it's being covered.
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[male reporter] You'd think he hates this
unwanted attention, but maybe not.
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Mr. Trump, this maestro of publicity,
has been fueling the flames himself,
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often placing phone calls
to influential columnists.
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For the tabloids, it was Cindy Adams
versus Liz Smith,
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Daily News versus the New York Post.
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Ivana was tied in with Liz Smith
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and gave all her information
to the Daily News
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whereas Cindy Adams was tied in
with Donald,
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and he fed everything to Cindy,
or just called them directly,
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the New York Post,
and put things on the cover.
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What special quality does he have that,
maybe, viewers don't know about?
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It's funny. I always tell Donald,
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I said, "I wish that you understood
how adorable you are
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just being your true, true self.
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You don't have to put on a red tie
and a blue suit to be likable.
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It's what's beneath--"
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[Larry King] He's likable.
People who work for him like him.
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People that work for him, friends like,
you know, you that know him personally,
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it's hard not to like him.
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Well, he's just very supportive
and a very, very close friend of mine.
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And we're just not really making any
big steps right now,
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we're just enjoying
each other's company, when we can.
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[interviewer] I was talking to
Miss Gilpatrick earlier, she said...
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Do you remember the great line
of George Saunders about Zsa Zsa?
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He said when Zsa Zsa was through with him,
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she "tossed me aside
like a squeezed lemon."
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I think Marla might find herself
like a squeezed lemon.
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First tonight, can real estate magnate
Donald Trump
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keep his financial empire afloat?
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Joining us now, Abraham Wallach,
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senior vice president
of First Capital Management.
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Mr. Wallach, at the mercy of the market,
speaking as a real estate man,
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how much can Donald Trump blame
his current troubles
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on the state of the real estate market?
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Yes, he can blame market conditions
to some extent...
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uh, but I think the reality is
if you pay too much for properties,
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and if your ego is as large
as his was-- is,
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and you just buy everything in sight...
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part of the blame has to squarely rest
in your own lap.
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Now that we see the larger picture,
three and a half billion dollars of debt,
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properties that in the near term
have no chance of achieving
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the kinds of revenue
necessary to cover debt...
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I did something that Donald doesn’t like.
I told the truth.
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Just being a champ.
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[Abraham Wallach]
Within a week of being on that program,
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the door man rings me up
and he says someone's down here
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and this man dumps a pile
of papers that thick,
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and I start to look at them, and it says,
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"Trump versus Wallach,
250 million dollars."
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And I said, "Oh, my God, I'm being sued
by Trump for 250 million dollars,"
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defamation of character, lies... You know,
just every word you could think of
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in a lawsuit was there.
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Norma, can I have my calls, please?
Calls, please. Thank you.
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[Wallach] Our firm used the same law firm
that Donald did.
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The general partner of the firm,
calls, and he says,
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"So long as you don’t say anything more
about him in the news,
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he'll drop the lawsuit."
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"But he wants one thing."
I said, "What's that?"
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"He wants to talk to you."
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I arrived a little early.
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I was sitting there
slumped in this velvet couch,
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taking in the panoramic view
of Central Park.
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This giant. He--
I didn’t realize how tall he was.
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He stuck his hand out and I stood up,
I shook his hand,
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and he couldn’t have been nicer.
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It’s as if all that had happened was...
nothing, never happened, never existed.
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[inaudible dialogue]
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He said, "Go back and tell them
you're leaving.
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I want you to start here on Monday."
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I was sort of bitten by the Trump bug.
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I quit the other job and Monday morning
I appeared at Trump's offices.
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Why did Donald call me?
I think he saw me as someone
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who could in some way help him.
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He was not sure where or how,
but somehow help him.
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[crowd cheers]
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[male reporter] It’s been quite a week
for Arkansas Governor Bill Clinton.
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His problem?
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Long-rumored allegations of marital
infidelity finally surfaced
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in a supermarket tabloid.
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[cheering fades]
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Fourteen percent of the registered voters
in America
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said they wouldn’t vote
for a candidate who's had an affair.
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But what does that mean? That means
86% of the American people...
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either don’t think its relevant
to presidential performance...
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or look at whether a person
looking at all the facts
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is the best person to serve.
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You know, I'm not sitting here,
some little woman,
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standing by my man
like Tammy Wynette.
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I'm sitting here because I love him,
and I respect him,
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and I honor what he's been through
and what we have been through together
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and, you know, if that's not enough
for people, then heck, don’t vote for him.
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[male reporter]
With all of the gossip and innuendo,
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Ivana Trump has never gone public
with her side.
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Tonight, with Barbara,
she breaks her silence
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And then came Christmas, Aspen...
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can you tell us what happened?
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It’s still hard, isn't it?
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It’s tough.
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[Ivana Trump] I did find out first time
on the telephone,
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when I did pick the phone
in the living room
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and Donald did pick the phone
in the bedroom.
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-[Barbara Walters] In Aspen?
-In Aspen.
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And he spoke to a mutual friend of ours,
and he was talking about Marla,
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and I really didn’t understand.
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I never heard a name
like that in my life,
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and I came to Donald and said,
"Who is Mula?"
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And he said, "Well, that's a girl that's
going after me for last two years."
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And I said, "Is that serious?"
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And he said,
"Well, she is just going after me."
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I think marriage
is an incredible institution.
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I think it’s a great institution.
I told you my parents were married,
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-have been married, are married--
-You’ve come from married stock.
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-I come from married stock.
-People stay married in the Trumps.
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You’re talking about 50 years
of marriage with my mother and father,
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-that’s a long time--
-Your brother married a long time?
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My-- Robert is happily married,
and my family's generally happily married,
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so, I’m not one that loves
the concept of divorce.
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In fact, just the opposite,
I hate the concept of divorce.
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I hate everything it represents.
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Um... It really was my decision.
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Um, I tried for two months, as you know,
until February.
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I tried to live with the idea that I had
been cheated on and I had been lied to.
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And-- And I decided that that's not a life
which I want to live.
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I never could trust a man
who'd cheat on me.
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Do you think that Donald is capable
of being faithful to one woman?
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I don’t think so.
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I made a big mistake. I put Ivana
into the business a little bit,
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and she did a very good job,
and she ran the Castle,
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and then she ran the Plaza,
and she did a nice job.
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The divorce from Ivana
taught him a great lesson.
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Ivana and I were
having problems for years.
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She's a wonderful woman. But we were
having problems like everybody else.
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I mean, we were having problems.
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He proved that he couldn’t have
his reputation destroyed.
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She'd come home every night.
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"Here’s how we are doing.
We are doing this, we are doing that."
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It became like I'm married
to a business partner
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and it really hurt the marriage.
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He learned he could ultimately get away
with anything.
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[male reporter]
Donald Trump is running short of cash.
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Four major New York banks
have been negotiating directly with Trump,
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and may force him to sell key properties.
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In a statement issued yesterday,
Trump insisted his investments
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remain excellent values.
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He is confident that he and his bankers
will work things out,
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but there is a problem.
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Benjy, hi, what’s going on?
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[Wallach] I signed on to work for Trump
just as the women and children
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were being led to the life boats
on the Titanic.
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People were running from one room
to the other,
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lawyers were all over the place...
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Accountants doing all kinds
of analyses and projections.
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Everybody was petrified,
and they thought the ship would go under.
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All right, find out, Lou, okay?
Thanks, Lou.
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Hello. Jack, how are you?
What's going on?
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Part of me was scared,
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because of all the chaos
I saw going on,
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but part of me was comfortable because
I said, "Nobody else can do this."
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But do you think you come out okay
at that number? You really do, huh?
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[Wallach]
Donald knew how to use the system.
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The banks had no choice
but to stick with him.
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I'll tell you what, Bernie, come in
and see me. Let’s you and I talk,
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and then we'll see--
we'll go from that stage.
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Does that sound all right?
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Has Donald dumped Marla for Carla?
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Well, those who've been following
the soap opera escapades
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of billionaire developer Donald Trump
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are being treated
to yet another chapter tonight.
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Marla, who was the other woman
when Trump was married to Ivana,
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apparently was told by the Donald
to pack up and move out
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of their posh Upper East Side apartment
they were sharing.
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And the new woman in Trump’s life
is an Italian model.
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[Carswell]
Now he's dumping Marla for Carla?
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And they rhyme? It was just too much.
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I call up Donald Trump’s office and
I get his assistant Norma on the phone,
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and I said, "What is going on, Norma?
What is going on?"
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And she said, "Darlin', I'll get you
a call back in five minutes or so."
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And she was true to her word,
five minutes later John Miller called.
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[Carswell on recording] Good morning.
What’s your name again?
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-[man on recording] John Miller.
-And you work with Donald?
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Yes, that's correct.
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John Miller, what kind
of comment is coming from Donald?
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He really decided that he wasn't--
You know, he didn’t want to…
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make a big commitment…
He didn’t want to make a commitment.
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He really thought it was too soon.
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He's coming out of a, you know, marriage,
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that, uh... And he's starting to do
tremendously well financially.
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'Cause, you know,
there’s a real estate depression
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in the United States,
and he's probably doing…
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as well as anybody there is.
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[man on recording]
I'm sort of new here. And I'm--
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[Carswell] What's your position?
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[man] I'm handling PR.
He gets so much of it.
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[Carswell] Yeah.
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You know, I had talked to Donald
on the phone a couple of times.
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Call me over the weekend.
I want to talk to you, okay?
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I thought, "It's just so weird
that he hired someone
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who sounds just like him."
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[man] Now off the record, I could tell you
that he didn’t care if he got bad PR
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until he got his divorce finished.
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And I remember thinking,
"I gotta keep him on the phone."
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[Carswell] What's going to happen?
Is she being asked to leave,
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-or is she going to be allowed to stay?
-[man] Well, he treats everybody well,
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-and you know Donald, but he's a--
-Yeah. No, I have met him.
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-Have you met him?
-Yes.
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[man] He's a good guy
and he's not going to hurt anybody.
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One article said, "He's going to throw her
out of the apartment,"
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it's total nonsense.
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Um, he's somebody that has
a lot of options and frankly…
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he gets called by everybody in the book
in terms of women.
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I mean they call, they just call.
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Actresses, people that you write about
just call to see
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if they can go out with him.
Madonna called
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and wanted to go out with him,
that I can tell you.
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[Carswell] As soon as I got off the phone
with John Miller,
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I ran down the hall and I said,
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"Oh, my God!
You gotta listen to this."
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I said, "I think it's Donald."
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Everybody in the office was listening
in on this tape, and they're like,
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“Oh, my God!
You gotta get confirmation."
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So, I called Cindy Adams
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from the New York Post and she's like,
"What is he doing? That's Donald."
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And then I called Marla,
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and I was like, Marla there is something
I need to play for you.
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[man on recording] Marla wants to be back
with him, but he just feels it's too soon.
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When he makes the decision,
that will be a very lucky woman.
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Off the record, he probably thought
Marla wasn't the right one.
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So, now he has somebody else
named Carla.
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Then she dropped Mick Jagger for Donald,
and that's where it is right now.
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[Carswell]
She just cries when she hears this tape.
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If you are as involved as they were
at this time, it was devastating news.
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I don’t know what he was thinking
about Carla, because she has come out
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and said that she had never had
anything to do with him.
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So this is all very imaginary.
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She didn’t leave Mick Jagger
for Donald Trump.
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Right after she hears the tape,
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Marla gets the hell out of town,
out of dodge.
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Donald kept trying to move her back
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and she was like, "I'm not having
anything to do with you anymore, Donald."
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I had to hurt Marla’s feelings,
but it’s a good thing she found out,
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to see who he really was.
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[show host] He has seen his life,
the good and the bad,
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splashed all across the front pages
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of New York City tabloids,
and sometimes you get the feeling
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that he doesn’t even mind
the notoriety one little bit.
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As a single man once again, he may be
the most eligible bachelor in America.
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Please welcome Donald Trump.
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00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:03,800
[crowd applauds]
457
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:07,480
Welcome.
458
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:12,160
Just this past weekend,
you had a big party in Palm Beach.
459
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:16,000
You invited just a few of your
close friends like the Miami Dolphin
460
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,280
-and the Buffalo Bill cheerleaders.
-[audience laughs]
461
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:20,720
Take a look at the monitors, if you will.
462
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:28,040
-Party at Trump Mansion! Woo!
-Yes!
463
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:31,800
[party guests cheering, exclaiming]
464
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,360
[indistinct chatter]
465
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:43,200
At that period, Donald Trump’s life
was going through all kinds of turmoil.
466
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:45,560
[cheering]
467
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:55,800
He was emphasizing his playboy-ness,
rather than the fact that his real estate
468
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:59,320
and gambling empires were going through
very turbulent times.
469
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:01,280
Woo!
470
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:05,040
It’s been a great year for me, and it's
been one of my best years, in a sense.
471
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:08,880
Yeah, but you are seen in the company
of lots of beautiful women, Donald.
472
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,000
I like beautiful women.
You're very beautiful.
473
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:12,840
This is really a beautiful woman.
474
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:14,680
[audience cheers, applauds]
475
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:17,840
Way to deflect the reporter's questions,
right?
476
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:32,280
[male reporter] Well, the name Taj Mahal
means "crown of the palace."
477
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:34,000
[male photographer] A still! A still.
478
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,760
[male reporter] Only Trump’s crown is
in hock tonight.
479
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,760
Trump has been forced
to put his Taj Mahal Hotel
480
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:42,520
and casino in Atlantic City
into bankruptcy,
481
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:44,800
because he couldn’t pay his debts.
482
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:48,000
[female reporter]
After weeks of negotiations,
483
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:51,240
at the press conference Trump seemed
pleased with the deal.
484
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,080
[Trump] I see so many people here
for this, I can’t believe it.
485
00:31:58,305 --> 00:32:01,155
One of these days you'll be writing
about other people too,
486
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:04,720
but I think it’s going to turn out,
Chris, to be a very positive...
487
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,920
It was a long, hard negotiation.
488
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:14,117
Donald understands that most reporters
accurately quote what they're told,
489
00:32:14,267 --> 00:32:16,960
but they really don’t know
what they're writing about.
490
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,960
I think it's wonderful the way everybody
pulled together and worked
491
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:26,000
on really taking a building that is doing,
as Mr. Ross said, record numbers.
492
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:28,520
And once his story is out there,
493
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:31,760
then anything else
is just a counter story.
494
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:34,080
Uh, and we're very happy that
this all worked out,
495
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:36,800
and I think that over the long term,
it's gonna prove out to be
496
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:38,360
a great victory for everybody.
497
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:41,040
[male reporter] Mr. Ross, you said--
Rather, Mr. Miller said that
498
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:42,600
this is a framework for an agreement.
499
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:44,320
-I'm wondering if...
-[reporters fade out]
500
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:46,920
All sorts of people
who were owed money got stiffed.
501
00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:00,720
[man] Down! Down! Stay down.
502
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:05,920
[man]
When the Trump Taj Mahal went bad...
503
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:09,200
it didn’t go bad by itself.
504
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:15,400
It took two other casinos and it took
thousands of individuals down with it.
505
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,960
Forget the debt holder.
Those people that loaned him that money
506
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:23,920
assumed that risk.
507
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:26,280
That's their problem.
508
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:31,880
But the suppliers,
and the small businesses...
509
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:38,080
that provided services,
provided equipment, provided supply,
510
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:41,320
expected to be paid at the end of 30 days.
511
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:51,000
A lot of businesses in the Atlantic City
area went out of business,
512
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,560
because they could not sustain
the loss from the monies
513
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:56,360
they couldn’t collect from Trump.
514
00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:59,080
And from that day to this,
515
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:04,320
he has never once publicly expressed
regret for that kind of damage.
516
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:50,520
[male photographer]
Marla, over here, please.
517
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:54,080
-[male photographer 2] Marla!
-[male photographer 3] Marla! Over here!
518
00:35:00,107 --> 00:35:02,360
[photographer] How do you feel?
Mr. Trump, how do you feel?
519
00:35:02,510 --> 00:35:03,367
Great.
520
00:35:03,452 --> 00:35:05,287
[female reporter]
Trump was in the delivery room
521
00:35:05,367 --> 00:35:08,820
for the birth of his fourth child.
He even cut her umbilical cord.
522
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:11,520
-Thank you!
-Thank you.
523
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:13,720
[scattered applause]
524
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:21,880
[male reporter] In a dramatic,
stunning form reversal,
525
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,200
struggling tycoon and media ring master
526
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:27,240
Donald Trump has asked Marla Maples
to marry him.
527
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:31,640
Trump left his headquarters, went across
the street to Harry Winston jewelers,
528
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:33,720
and bought a ring similar to this one.
529
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,200
[Trump] We really anticipated getting
married and having a baby,
530
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:38,880
not having a baby and getting married.
531
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,707
Why didn’t you marry her right away
when you found out she was pregnant?
532
00:35:42,782 --> 00:35:44,920
-Indecision. Really, indecision.
-Indecision?
533
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:48,560
To me, it’s a more difficult decision.
You know, it’s in many respects
534
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:49,880
a much bigger decision.
535
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:51,640
It's an irrevocable deal, theoretically.
536
00:35:51,720 --> 00:35:54,120
Well, it really is.
In theory, it’s an irrevocable deal.
537
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:09,640
[crowd cheering]
538
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:15,560
[photographers clamoring]
539
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:25,040
[male reporter] Celebrity guests swarm
New York’s Plaza Hotel for the big events.
540
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:30,040
The crowd was the expected
mix of beautiful people,
541
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:32,560
business leaders and politicians.
542
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,520
And the hype was pervasive.
543
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:41,120
[Wallach] The very first function I was
invited to was to Donald’s wedding,
544
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:43,720
and it was a very grand affair.
545
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,400
Huh? What did I get for their wedding?
A toaster!
546
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:48,040
[female interviewer] A toaster!
547
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:53,080
[Wallach] He knows all these politicians,
all these Hollywood stars.
548
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:55,160
[photographers yelling] O.J.!
549
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:57,360
I mean, the man just knows everybody.
550
00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:00,640
They've gone through a lot of turmoil,
and I think everybody in the country
551
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:04,120
believes that maybe their relationship
could work if this relationship will work,
552
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:06,320
you know, for all the things
that they've gone through,
553
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:07,840
and I think this will work.
554
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:11,280
[photographers yelling] Trump! Trump!
555
00:37:12,897 --> 00:37:14,120
[male photographer] Mrs. Trump!
556
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:17,880
[woman] Donald would not have married her,
had his father not pressured him.
557
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:23,720
He said, "She has a child.
Now you have to marry her."
558
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,480
[indistinct chatter]
559
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:38,360
[female interviewer] Can you tell us what
got you to pop the question?
560
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:39,560
Oh...
561
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:42,600
Well, I think it was just the relationship
that was happening,
562
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:43,960
and it just feels really good.
563
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:47,480
-See you later. Have a good time.
-And you always find the time. [laughs]
564
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:49,280
[woman] Donald, give Marla a kiss!
565
00:37:51,832 --> 00:37:55,560
[male reporter] When it was over, Donald
and Marla treated fans to the royal wave.
566
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:04,280
[Wallach] It was in the Plaza Hotel.
It cost several hundred thousand dollars
567
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:08,680
and he charged everything to Citibank,
who had the mortgage on the building.
568
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:10,840
Even though it had huge mortgages,
569
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:13,400
he was still the owner,
so he just charged everything.
570
00:38:14,720 --> 00:38:19,080
For years, they were hounding him
to pay the cost of the wedding.
571
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:41,800
[David Cay Johnston] The Trump
shuttle airline goes into bankruptcy.
572
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:43,120
It’s a complete disaster.
573
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:47,600
The Trump Plaza Hotel is taken over
by a Saudi Prince,
574
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:49,760
at a loss to Donald.
575
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:53,080
And so, a whole series of properties
fall out of Donald’s hands
576
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:54,680
over this period of time.
577
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:58,120
[male reporter] Trump has put another
of his trophies up for sale, his yacht.
578
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:01,240
[Johnston]
But Donald still can’t repay his debts.
579
00:39:01,518 --> 00:39:04,040
American banks won't loan him
money anymore.
580
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:07,600
So, Donald starts getting
money from other sources.
581
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:17,920
Trump creates the only
publicly traded company
582
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:19,680
he's ever been involved with.
583
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:22,920
Make a six bid for 20,000...
584
00:39:31,240 --> 00:39:33,000
For those interested
in following the stock,
585
00:39:33,240 --> 00:39:35,480
Trump made it characteristically easy.
586
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:39,440
He trades under the symbol of DJT.
Donald J. Trump.
587
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:44,000
Donald Trump understands
that if he creates this public persona,
588
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:45,840
that's what people will see.
589
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:51,640
You sell people what they want to hear.
590
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:59,040
[Selina Scott] We were following Trump
in Britain at that stage.
591
00:40:00,720 --> 00:40:04,440
I think he thought, well, it might burnish
his image a little bit.
592
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:10,400
He wanted to send a message
out to his potential investors.
593
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:13,320
If he was considered to be going down,
594
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:15,600
well, he had a message
for them that he wasn't.
595
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:17,400
[Trump]
Here's our new partner in the deal,
596
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:19,440
the legendary Selina Scott from Europe.
597
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:21,320
-Hello.
-[Scott] Oh--
598
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:23,160
[Trump] See you in five minutes. [laughs]
599
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:25,200
-Hi, guys.
-Ah, she’s beautiful.
600
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:27,640
Now, this is just a small group.
Philip Johnson...
601
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:29,280
-[Scott] Yes.
-[Trump] ...also a legend.
602
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:30,840
Selina is the biggest in Europe.
603
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:33,560
You know about that?
Everybody knows Selina Scott.
604
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:34,560
[laughter]
605
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:36,240
He saw himself as a deal maker.
606
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:43,280
And how do you make sure
that you come across in the best way,
607
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:45,000
that people are going to look at you
608
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:47,160
and think,
"Here's a guy who knows what he is doing"?
609
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:57,240
Hey Rich, get closer.
610
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:02,520
When you get next to a building
this high, it’s a scary thing.
611
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:05,760
You know, to me,
that's the symbol of lot of things.
612
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:07,880
That's the ultimate symbol.
613
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:13,480
It so much represents the greatness
of New York and the power of New York.
614
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:18,800
It was trying to impress me
so that the television cameras
615
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:20,600
could pull out from him...
616
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:26,240
this image of a man who is in charge,
in control, is gonna survive.
617
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:31,160
He was very much in awe of his mother.
618
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:35,760
[Scott]
Donald’s mother, Mary McLeod,
619
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:39,000
a dark-haired beauty
from the Isle of Lewis in the Hebrides,
620
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:41,360
first met Fred Trump when she was just 18.
621
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:44,440
What did she see
in the young builder from the Bronx?
622
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:48,840
Why is it ever about the guys
we fall in love with?
623
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:55,120
It's special, right? He was wonderful
and a very eligible--
624
00:41:55,480 --> 00:42:00,960
the most eligible bachelor
in New York, so there.
625
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:06,000
[Scott] Donald obviously asked her
to come and talk.
626
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:10,360
He needed his mom there to act
as his witness
627
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:15,480
to his good nature,
and his ability, and all the rest of it.
628
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:18,560
[Scott]
Fred and Mary had five children.
629
00:42:18,720 --> 00:42:20,680
Donald was the Trump’s third born.
630
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:24,400
His older brother Fred apparently
found it hard to satisfy
631
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:27,760
his father’s aspirations.
Alcohol became the easy way out.
632
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:35,640
[Trump] I had a brother who was
a great guy, handsome, beautiful guy.
633
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:42,840
And Fred died at a relatively young age,
in his 40s, of pure and simple alcoholism.
634
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:47,920
I mean, he just drank like a fish.
He just drank and drank.
635
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:49,720
It’s a drug. It’s a horrible drug.
636
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:57,040
[Scott] This was success for Donald,
to display his mother in this way.
637
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:02,040
To say, "Look how far my mother has come,
and look what she's given birth to."
638
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:03,040
[laughs]
639
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:06,960
Did you at any stage in that think,
"He really has bitten off
640
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:10,000
more than he can chew.
He's really gone and done it now"?
641
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:12,320
-No, no, never.
-[Scott] Never?
642
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:15,800
I knew. I just knew he'd come back.
643
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:27,840
[Trump] This is just the right time
for this industry.
644
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,200
We’re really happy,
and this is a very exciting day.
645
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:33,280
[Johnston]
They sell the stock at a very good price.
646
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:53,440
[male reporter] Not bad work for a man
whose casinos have gone into bankruptcy.
647
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:56,640
[Johnston] That was sort of
an astonishing development.
648
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:59,800
I mean, this is a man who had
a track record of not paying his bills,
649
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:03,160
of not managing his enterprises well.
650
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:06,720
Wall Street
has a lot of respect for Trump.
651
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:11,000
[Johnston] Donald gets paid at least
82 million dollars,
652
00:44:11,240 --> 00:44:16,040
and plus, 50 million dollars is used to
pay off debts he personally guaranteed.
653
00:44:16,240 --> 00:44:17,640
How could this happen?
654
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:20,680
[audience cheering, applauding]
655
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:24,640
He's a guy who has engineered
one of the biggest turnarounds
656
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:28,400
in modern business history.
People were taking away control
657
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:31,160
of your various casinos
and your far-flung empire,
658
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:33,320
your real estate developments
had stalled.
659
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:36,520
As you sit there today,
give me a one-word answer,
660
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:38,440
how are things going business-wise?
661
00:44:38,642 --> 00:44:41,360
It’s probably been the best year
of my life from a business standpoint.
662
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:44,120
One word? I don’t know.
Can we say "luck"? Maybe "luck."
663
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:46,280
[Rivera] "Luck" is a good word.
We'll be right back.
664
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:47,840
[audience cheering]
665
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:53,440
It increased his image as this man
who was all-powerful
666
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:55,840
and can do anything
and has the Midas touch.
667
00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:00,167
And Donald Trump is masterful
at exploiting these things.
668
00:45:00,225 --> 00:45:01,905
That's why he is such a great con-artist,
669
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:04,400
the greatest con-artist
in the history of the world.
670
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:18,280
[female reporter] It is Splitsville
for Donald Trump and Marla Maples.
671
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:23,440
They've decided to separate
after three-and-a-half years of marriage,
672
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:25,320
and say they hope
to remain friends.
673
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:34,132
"Often, I'll tell friends whose wives
are constantly nagging them
674
00:45:34,182 --> 00:45:36,760
about this or that, that they' re
better off cutting their losses.
675
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:39,200
When a man has to endure
a woman who is not supportive
676
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:41,760
and complains constantly
about his not being home
677
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:44,280
or being attentive enough,
he will not be successful
678
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:45,800
unless he is able to cut the cord."
679
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:48,160
-That's true, I mean, I think that--
-It doesn’t say much
680
00:45:48,242 --> 00:45:49,942
for trying to make
a marriage work, does it?
681
00:45:50,042 --> 00:45:52,435
It doesn’t. It's very cold
and I hate saying it, but it’s true.
682
00:45:52,517 --> 00:45:54,127
I've seen people
that are married to women
683
00:45:54,202 --> 00:45:56,600
that, you know, their lives--
They just will not be successful.
684
00:45:56,677 --> 00:45:58,760
Do you think people are going
to look at you as someone
685
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:00,360
they should take marriage advice from?
686
00:46:00,441 --> 00:46:02,641
[laughs] That's a tough question.
687
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:09,160
[Trump] In real life, I believe
that wealth does, in fact,
688
00:46:09,240 --> 00:46:10,880
isolate you from other people.
689
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:14,680
It’s a protective mechanism.
690
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:18,120
You have your guard up...
691
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:21,680
much more so than you would
if you didn’t have wealth.
692
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:26,640
[clattering]
693
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:35,120
[Trump] There was
a great rise in Citizen Kane...
694
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:40,040
and there was a modest fall.
695
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:43,360
[clattering, shattering]
696
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:47,760
[Trump] The fall wasn't a financial fall.
The fall was a personal fall...
697
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:51,960
but it was a fall nevertheless.
698
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:57,720
So, you had the highs
and you had the lows.
699
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:05,880
Rosebud.
700
00:47:07,240 --> 00:47:09,800
A lot of people don’t really understand
the significance of it.
701
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:11,960
I'm not sure if anybody understands
its significance,
702
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:14,080
but I think the significance
703
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:19,560
is bringing a lonely, rather sad figure
704
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:22,280
back into his childhood.
705
00:47:35,240 --> 00:47:37,600
[Scott] The youngest
of the family, Robert,
706
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:41,280
also had problems as a child
coping with the acquisitive Donald.
707
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:46,560
[Mary Anne Trump] I remember he used to be
in the playroom building with blocks,
708
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:49,840
and Robert got building blocks
at the same time,
709
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:53,320
so they had a lot of building blocks...
710
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:57,600
[chuckles] and Donald borrowed Robert's.
711
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:03,200
Robert willingly gave the blocks
to his brother to build,
712
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:06,760
but Donald glued the blocks together.
713
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:09,480
-He never gave the blocks back?
-Oh, no.
714
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:12,640
Of course not, he couldn’t,
they were glued in one... [laughs]
715
00:48:12,720 --> 00:48:15,160
-Glued in one big building. [laughs]
-[Scott laughs]
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