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WILLIAM SHATNER:
An indestructible cloak
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imprinted with a divine image.
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Small fragments of wood
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believed to possess
sacred energy.
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And an ancient Egyptian staff
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imbued with the power of God.
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Throughout the world,
there are objects in museums,
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churches and private collections
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that are said
to come from biblical times
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and the saints and martyrs
whose lives
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were devoted to God.
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Many believe
that these priceless items
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not only prove that the stories
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from the Old and New Testaments
are true
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but that the artifacts also
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have the power
to perform miracles.
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Could the objects
we know as biblical relics
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really be authentic?
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And might they actually
possess divine energy?
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Well, that is
what we'll try and find out.
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While tending his flock of goats
in the rocky hills
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just northwest of the Dead Sea,
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Bedouin shepherd Muhammed ed-Dib
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spies the entrance
to a long-forgotten cave.
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Inside, he finds an assortment
of dusty clay jars
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containing fragments
of parchment and papyrus
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with writing in Hebrew,
Aramaic and Greek.
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They are the ancient
Jewish manuscripts
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we now call
the Dead Sea Scrolls.
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ROBERT CARGILL:
The Dead Sea Scrolls
are the oldest copies
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of the Hebrew Bible that we have
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by a thousand years.
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Prior to their discovery,
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the oldest copies
of the Bible that we had
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were from about 1100 AD.
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So, these scrolls were arguably
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the greatest discovery
of the 20th century.
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SHATNER:
Over the course of
the ten-year excavation project,
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archeologists recovered more
than 15,000 scroll fragments
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from 12 separate caves.
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And as scholars painstakingly
pieced the writings together,
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what they deciphered
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was a lost history
of biblical proportions.
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AMIR HUSSAIN:
The Dead Sea Scrolls
are really fascinating
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because some of them
are books that didn't make it
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into the Bible,
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like the Book of Tobit,
the Book of Jubilees,
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the Book of Enoch.
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So, this is a brand-new set
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of other information
about the Bible.
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CARGILL:
The Dead Sea Scrolls
fundamentally changed the way
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we read the Bible
because it shows us
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that there was another group
of sectarian Jews
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who had books in their Bible
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that didn't end up making it
into the Hebrew Bible.
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And so now we ask the questions:
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Well, why do these guys believe
something that's so different?
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And so, we probably have
just as many new questions
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now that we've discovered them
than we had before.
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SHATNER:
The creation
of the biblical canons,
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along with their
carefully chosen hiding places,
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seems like a clear indication
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that these manuscripts
were considered very important,
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at least for as long as time
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and the fragile parchment
would allow.
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But perhaps the most intriguing
discovery in the Qumran desert
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was an extraordinarily
well-preserved scroll
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created to endure
the test of time,
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because this document
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was intentionally
made of copper.
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The Copper Scroll is
one of the Dead Sea Scrolls,
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but it's unlike all the others.
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It was actually discovered
in what's called Cave Three,
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the third cave around Qumran.
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This scroll is entirely written
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on a sheet of copper alloy.
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It's about
eight and a half feet long.
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And it had been rolled up after
it was engraved in antiquity
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and set into the caves.
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So this is really
an astonishing find.
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Obviously, there was
a lot of thought into making
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this particular scroll
out of copper.
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They wanted something
that could go through
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all kinds of catastrophes
and still be able to convey
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the information
that it has inside it.
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SHATNER:
When it was first discovered,
the Copper Scroll
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was sealed shut by
thousands of years of corrosion,
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preventing scholars
from unraveling
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the secrets it held inside.
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But in 1955,
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English archaeologist
John Allegro
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and engineers at
the University of Manchester
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were able to carefully cut
the scroll into sections
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and reveal its ancient
Hebrew inscriptions.
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What Allegro discovered
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was nothing short
of astonishing.
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His translations revealed
that the Copper Scroll
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is actually a treasure map.
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CARGILL:
The Copper Scroll is
an inventory of treasure,
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63 locations
of a massive amount of treasure.
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We're talking like $300 billion
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worth of treasure
in today's money.
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ROY FISHER:
The Copper Scroll is
a list of locations
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where one can expect to find
all sorts of riches.
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Gold, coins, artifacts.
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So, many people have viewed it
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as kind of
an ancient treasure map.
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Unfortunately, we've not found
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any treasure associated
with the Copper Scroll
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because a lot
of the vocabulary is strange
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and the geographical places
are unknown to us.
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SHATNER:
Instead of ancient scripture,
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the Copper Scroll lists
63 different treasure locations
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in the Judean Desert.
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But as with
any great treasure hunt,
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there's a hook.
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The locations
listed on the scroll
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either no longer exist,
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are completely unknown
to scholars
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or just too vague to figure out.
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CARGILL:
This is the big mystery
about the Copper Scroll.
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It's very nondescript.
It'll give a location,
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and then it'll tell you
how far down to dig.
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For instance,
it'll say something like...
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And it does this 63 times.
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So, the question is:
Where is this place?
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But we just don't know.
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SHATNER:
Could the Copper Scroll
lead to a massive fortune
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buried throughout
the Judean Desert?
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It's an incredible notion.
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But if it is true,
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then where did
this treasure come from?
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When you look at the treasure
inventory in the Copper Scroll,
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and it describes like
160 tons of gold and silver,
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you have to be thinking about,
well, who would have
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160 tons of gold and silver?
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The only place that would
have that is Solomon's Temple.
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And so the idea is that:
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Is this a list
of the treasure of the temple?
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Because the temple,
of course, has gold and silver.
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What about the things
in the temple?
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Including
the most sacred object,
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the Ark of the Covenant.
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Is potentially
the Ark of the Covenant
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one of the things that is hidden
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in this, uh,
location of treasures?
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SHATNER:
According to the Hebrew Bible,
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the sacred chest said to hold
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the Ten Commandments'
stone tablets
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was once kept
in a secret chamber
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beneath King Solomon's Temple
in Jerusalem.
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But at some point,
the Ark disappeared,
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and nobody has seen it
for thousands of years.
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Could the Copper Scrolls
reveal its hidden location?
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The idea that the Copper Scroll
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could lead us to, say,
the Ark of the Covenant
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is a tantalizing,
maybe even a seductive idea.
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The Ark of God is probably
the most powerful relic
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in ancient Israel.
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And it's reported to have
tremendous power.
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I guess if somebody
finds treasure,
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then the mystery will be solved.
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But until then, it's still
in that mysterious realm.
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Is the Ark of the Covenant
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hidden somewhere
in the Judean wilderness?
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We don't know.
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SHATNER:
If the Copper Scroll
really does lead
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to the Ark of the Covenant,
what happens if it's found?
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How will believers react?
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Perhaps the answer can be found
by examining another relic,
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in Mexico City,
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a cloak imbued with divine power
by the Virgin Mary
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that is believed
to be indestructible.
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SHATNER:
In a busy plaza
just north of downtown
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sits the Basilica of
Our Lady of Guadalupe.
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Every day,
thousands of worshippers
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crowd inside to pray
and to show their devotion
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to a beautifully
illustrated garment
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that hangs above
the church altar.
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It's a miraculous cloak
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known as the Tilma of Guadalupe.
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LEWIS:
The Tilma of Guadalupe
shows the image
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of a beautiful woman
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with her head inclined downwards
and her eyes half-closed.
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And she is wearing
a gorgeous blue flowing dress.
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It's all sort of
celestial imagery of
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gold and stars
and, kind of, rays
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shooting off of her.
It's very, very beautiful.
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SHATNER:
Like the Shroud of Turin,
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the burial cloth laid over Jesus
after the crucifixion,
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this cloak is an object
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revered by Christians
around the world.
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In fact, every year,
more than 20 million people
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arrive to worship
the Tilma of Guadalupe.
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This astonishing figure
makes it the single
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most popular holy relic
in the Catholic faith,
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which naturally
begs the question:
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Just what is it about the tilma
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that makes it
so important to believers?
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LEWIS:
The Tilma of Guadalupe
is a sacred image
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that is thought to be
miraculously produced.
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The image originates from
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a series of apparitions
of the Virgin Mary
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that appeared
to a Mexican peasant
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by the name
of Juan Diego in 1531.
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So, the story is
Juan Diego is hurrying off
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to see his friend
Juan Bernardino,
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who's very, very ill.
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As he's going off
to see Juan Bernardino,
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he has an apparition.
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And the Virgin tells him
to go to a certain hill
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and to pick the roses there.
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This is a strange thing.
It's actually in December.
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There are not really
roses around.
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But he goes, and there's
a beautiful field of roses,
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and these roses
aren't even native to Mexico.
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And he gathers them up
in his cloak
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and goes and he talks
to the archbishop
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about this apparition.
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He opens up his cloak
and all the roses fall out,
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and what's left is
this beautiful image
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of the Virgin of Guadalupe.
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SHATNER:
Is it possible that
the image of the Virgin Mary
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on the Tilma of Guadalupe
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was miraculously
imprinted on the cloak
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of a Mexican peasant?
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And could it possess
divine healing power,
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curing everything from cancer
to infertility to paralysis,
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as millions of devoted followers
believe it does?
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Part of the mystery around this
is the fact that this cloak,
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which is made of cactus fibers
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and is now almost 500 years old,
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remains in remarkable condition.
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And we have
numerous accounts of people
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who attest to its power
to transform their life,
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to bring prosperity,
to heal from sicknesses.
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HUSSAIN:
There are literally
thousands of people
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that are coming off the bus
on their knees,
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and they're walking
on their knees
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to get into the cathedral.
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Because if you're there
to petition
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Our Lady 'cause you're sick,
'cause your child is sick,
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'cause you want a blessing
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for your daughter
who's getting married,
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because you want
your son to get a job,
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you don't come standing
in a position of arrogance.
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You come on your knees
in a position of humility.
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SHATNER:
Could the Tilma of Guadalupe
actually have the power
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to bestow people
with miraculous blessings?
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Perhaps.
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But what may be
even more remarkable
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is that the tilma
appears to be indestructible.
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HUSSAIN:
In November of 1921,
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you had a disgruntled man
who put a bomb
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in a vase of flowers
very close to the tilma,
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to the image
of Our Lady of Guadalupe.
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He wanted to blow up the church.
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When this bomb goes off in 1921,
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it causes destruction.
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It damaged the altar.
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It bends a crucifix.
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It blows out windows
in neighboring homes.
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But it doesn't damage
a cloth object.
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For the devout, this is a sign
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that this is something
very special.
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This is something
that will be protected.
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SHATNER:
How can one explain
the otherworldly attributes
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of the Tilma of Guadalupe?
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Even scientists are bewildered
by the durability
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and the detail
of the sacred garment,
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because when viewed
in the infrared spectrum,
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the painting of the Virgin Mary
imprinted on the cloak
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does not appear
to show any brushstrokes.
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And even more baffling
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is the discovery
of a hidden image
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inside the Virgin Mary's eyes.
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Using cutting-edge
computer software,
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Dr. José Tonsmann
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enlarges a photograph of
the Virgin Mary's eyes
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more than 2,500 times,
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revealing a microscopic image
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reflected in her pupils.
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People have claimed
that they can see
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reflections of Juan Diego
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in the eyes of the Virgin
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on the cloak.
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And so, the idea is that,
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not only is this an image
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but it's almost like
a photographic image
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of the Virgin Mary
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that has been
imprinted upon this cloak,
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such that whatever she was
seeing when she appeared
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was actually captured
in the image.
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It's a very mysterious,
very interesting claim.
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SHATNER:
Is the hidden image
inside the Virgin Mary's pupils
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a reflection
of what she was seeing
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the moment her likeness
was imprinted on the tilma?
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It's a fascinating notion.
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And for the faithful,
it's yet further evidence
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of the tilma's divine origins.
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Whether the Tilma of Guadalupe
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is imbued with the power
of the Virgin Mary or not,
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there's no denying it is
a truly remarkable artifact.
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But as revered as it is,
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there are other
extraordinary objects
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said to possess
the almighty power of God,
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like the Staff of Moses
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that was used
to part the Red Sea.
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SHATNER:
Among the gilded daggers
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and precious jewels
on display here,
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there are a number of objects
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that allegedly date
to biblical times.
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These include a sword
supposedly used by King David
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to kill the giant Goliath,
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hairs from the beard
of the Prophet Muhammad,
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and a wooden rod
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which is claimed
to be the actual
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Staff of Moses.
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LEWIS:
This palace used to be
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the residence of
an Ottoman sultan.
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And he was given many
precious gifts over the years,
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and one of the things
that evidently he was given
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was the Staff of Moses.
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The Staff of Moses is mentioned
in association with Moses
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in the Book of Exodus.
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And the first time
that we hear about it,
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it seems to just be
a walking stick.
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But as time goes by
in the story of Exodus,
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it really seems
kind of like a magic wand.
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SHATNER:
Could the wooden rod
on display in the Topkapi Museum
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be the actual Staff of Moses?
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As incredible as it sounds,
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many people believe
the answer is yes.
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Which makes the claim
even more extraordinary
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because, according
to biblical tradition,
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the Staff of Moses was imbued
with miraculous powers.
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The Staff of Moses first is used
in Exodus chapter seven,
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when Moses confronts Pharaoh
about letting the Israelites go.
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He casts down his staff.
It turns into a serpent.
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(snake hisses)
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The second instance it's used
is when we have the ten plagues.
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And in the first
of these plagues,
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Moses uses the tip of his staff
dipped into the Nile
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and turns the Nile
into a red color like blood.
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SHATNER:
But perhaps
the most awesome display
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of the staff's divine force
occurs in Exodus 14,
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when Moses raises the rod
above his head
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and parts the Red Sea.
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HUSSAIN:
In the Exodus narrative,
the Israelites
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are there at the Red Sea.
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They're being chased
by the Egyptians,
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and God basically says,
"Moses, take your staff,
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hold it over the waters,
and the waters will part."
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And the minute that
the Israelites start walking,
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the waters of the Red Sea part.
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The minute the Egyptians
come after them,
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the waters of the Red Sea
collapse upon them.
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-(clamoring)
-(horse neighs)
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SHATNER:
Is it possible that
the unassuming wooden rod
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displayed in the Topkapi Museum
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is the same staff that Moses
used to free the Israelites?
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It may come as no surprise
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that many experts
doubt its authenticity.
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It is simply not possible
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to follow the provenance
of the Staff of Moses.
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And the staff that is
in the museum in Istanbul,
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there's just no way,
there's just no way
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of authenticating this
as the Staff of Moses.
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All we have is
legend and tradition.
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LEWIS:
One real mystery
is that we don't know
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what happens to the staff
after the end of Moses.
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One story is that
it gets passed down
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through the Davidic line.
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King David has the staff.
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He uses it as a scepter.
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At that point,
we kind of lose sight of it.
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SHATNER:
If it's true that
the mystical artifact
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disappeared from history,
then what happened to it?
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Author and relic hunter
Graham Phillips has a theory.
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He's been researching
the Staff of Moses for decades,
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and according to his research,
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there's a wooden rod in
the Birmingham Museum in England
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that was said to be found
in the ancient tomb
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where Moses was supposedly
laid to rest.
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We're told that Moses was buried
at a place called Petra.
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So, somewhere in Petra,
in this valley,
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there's something there
called the Snake Monument,
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and it dates from the
right time, from Moses' period.
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And in the middle
of the 19th century,
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a couple of archeologists
went there,
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excavated a cave beneath it
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and believed that they had
found the tomb of Moses.
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The problem was,
there was no body in it.
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It had been robbed
at some point,
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but there was, all covered
in dust and debris, a staff.
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Eventually, this staff ended up
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in the Birmingham Museum.
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And there, in this glass case,
was this staff
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exactly as described
by these guys who'd found it.
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Dark-colored,
about four feet long
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with Egyptian hieroglyphics
in white on them.
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I couldn't believe it.
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SHATNER:
According to the Bible,
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before Moses
became a Hebrew leader,
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he was a prince of Egypt.
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And the hieroglyphics
on the Birmingham Museum staff
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says it belonged to a member
of the royal Egyptian court
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named Tuthmosis.
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A name that bears
an undeniable similarity
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to the legendary prophet Moses.
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PHILLIPS:
It says, in Egyptian
hieroglyphics on this staff,
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"This belongs to Tuthmosis."
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So, you've got a person
whose name
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could've been Moses,
who had been a prince in Egypt.
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I mean, if that's not Moses'
staff, I don't know what is.
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Could the legendary
Staff of Moses
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really still exist
and be displayed
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in a museum in Istanbul
or in England?
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It's an extraordinary
possibility.
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But perhaps even more compelling
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is a small piece of wood held
in safekeeping at the Vatican,
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which, according
to Christian tradition,
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was once part of the True Cross.
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SHATNER:
On May 6th, 2023,
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the Prince of Wales was crowned
King Charles III
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in a coronation ceremony
that honored
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both the secular and the
spiritual role of the monarch.
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Included in the coronation
that day
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was a very special object
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commissioned specifically
for the ceremony
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called the Cross of Wales.
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What makes this cross so special
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is that it contains
two tiny slivers of wood
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that are believed to be
part of the True Cross.
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The True Cross refers
to pieces of the cross
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on which Jesus was crucified.
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So, the idea is that
this is not just any old cross.
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And you can imagine the
importance of this, uh, relic
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because we have very few relics
associated with Jesus.
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LEWIS:
The True Cross is very important
to Christian believers
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because it directly had contact
with Jesus's body.
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Jesus suffered on that cross.
Jesus bled on that cross.
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And believers feel that,
if they can be in the presence
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of that cross,
be in the presence of that wood,
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that they can feel themselves
connected back
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to Jesus Christ himself.
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SHATNER:
For the past 2,000 years,
the surviving artifacts
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from Jesus's crucifixion
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have been deeply revered
by believers.
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Relics such as
the bloodstained cloth,
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known as the Sudarium, that
was draped over Christ's head
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or the Shroud of Turin,
which covered Jesus's body
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after his death,
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are some of
the most sacred objects
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in the Christian religion,
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and they are said to be blessed
with incredible power.
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HUSSAIN:
With Jesus relics especially,
the idea is that they contain
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a power, a sacredness,
a-a holiness.
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Sometimes, the object itself
has great power.
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For example, the Shroud of Turin
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is literally
the burial cloth of Jesus.
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It has touched Jesus.
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Jesus has been resurrected,
and he leaves the cloth behind.
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So there's a power
associated with this.
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There are often occurrences,
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miraculous healings
that come from this.
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So, you can see the importance
of that for Christians.
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And so, what more important
relic than the True Cross,
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a piece of the cross
on which Jesus was crucified?
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SHATNER:
Today, slivers of the True Cross
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are present in churches
all around the world,
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where they are revered
by hundreds
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of millions of worshippers.
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But how do we know
that these tiny splinters
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were actually once part
of the cross
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upon which Jesus was crucified?
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The Romans crucified
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tens of thousands of people
over a long period of time.
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Now, the Bible
never mentions anywhere
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what happens to the cross
after Jesus's crucifixion.
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It talks about how his body
was taken down from the cross
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by Joseph of Arimathea,
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but it doesn't say anything
about what happens
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to the cross itself.
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In Christian tradition,
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the True Cross
is discovered by Helena,
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the mother of
the Emperor Constantine.
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Helena was a convert
to Christianity.
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And in the early fourth century,
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she embarks on a pilgrimage
in Jerusalem
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to walk the steps of Jesus
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to visit the site
of his crucifixion.
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She's taken to what we now know
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as the Church
of the Holy Sepulchre.
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And while there,
she seeks out and discovers
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three crosses in an area
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that is close by the tomb
where Jesus was buried.
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Question is:
Which one is the True Cross?
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We have a fascinating story
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00:29:15,917 --> 00:29:19,208
of how she actually
came to find out
502
00:29:19,375 --> 00:29:21,417
which was the True Cross.
503
00:29:23,292 --> 00:29:27,167
What Helena decided to do
was take this woman,
504
00:29:27,333 --> 00:29:30,375
this poor old woman
who was near death,
505
00:29:30,542 --> 00:29:31,792
and they brought her out,
506
00:29:31,958 --> 00:29:34,750
and they laid her
on one of these crosses,
507
00:29:34,917 --> 00:29:37,042
and she let out a groan
and she was in agony.
508
00:29:37,208 --> 00:29:39,417
And they said,
"Well, it's not that one."
509
00:29:39,583 --> 00:29:41,500
And so, they took her and
they put her on the next cross,
510
00:29:41,708 --> 00:29:44,750
and she was screaming and
hollering and just near death.
511
00:29:44,917 --> 00:29:46,792
She goes, "Not that one."
512
00:29:46,958 --> 00:29:48,667
And they put her
on the third cross,
513
00:29:48,875 --> 00:29:51,000
and she was instantly healed.
514
00:29:51,208 --> 00:29:53,250
And she got up and started
walking around, and they said,
515
00:29:53,417 --> 00:29:56,375
"Well, clearly, this is
the cross of Christ."
516
00:29:57,458 --> 00:30:02,917
And from that point on,
that became the cross of Christ.
517
00:30:04,167 --> 00:30:05,667
SHATNER:
According to the story,
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00:30:05,875 --> 00:30:08,958
Helena had a piece
carved off the True Cross,
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00:30:09,083 --> 00:30:12,417
which she took to Constantinople
for safekeeping.
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00:30:12,583 --> 00:30:14,167
Over the next few centuries,
521
00:30:14,333 --> 00:30:16,333
this relic was further
whittled down
522
00:30:16,500 --> 00:30:20,625
by churches seeking to obtain
slivers as relics of their own.
523
00:30:20,792 --> 00:30:23,000
But for the faithful,
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00:30:23,125 --> 00:30:27,000
each one of these tiny pieces
of the True Cross
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00:30:27,208 --> 00:30:31,833
possess the full divine power
of the original.
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00:30:33,042 --> 00:30:35,333
LEWIS:
The interesting thing
about biblical relics
527
00:30:35,542 --> 00:30:40,083
is that no matter how many times
you divide up a biblical relic,
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00:30:40,250 --> 00:30:43,458
it maintains the same kind
of miraculous power.
529
00:30:43,625 --> 00:30:45,292
Every piece of the True Cross
530
00:30:45,458 --> 00:30:47,500
has equal power
to the entire cross.
531
00:30:47,667 --> 00:30:51,083
HUSSAIN:
This has become the main symbol
now for Christianity.
532
00:30:51,208 --> 00:30:54,750
So, to have a piece
literally of the cross
533
00:30:54,917 --> 00:30:58,667
on which Jesus is crucified
is priceless.
534
00:30:58,833 --> 00:31:01,125
It's incalculable,
the value of this.
535
00:31:03,333 --> 00:31:05,333
It's understandable
why the True Cross
536
00:31:05,542 --> 00:31:08,875
is one of the most revered
holy relics on Earth,
537
00:31:09,042 --> 00:31:11,458
but that's not
the only artifact believed
538
00:31:11,625 --> 00:31:13,167
to have survived
the crucifixion.
539
00:31:13,333 --> 00:31:17,500
Pieces of the crown of thorns
that once adorned
540
00:31:17,583 --> 00:31:21,125
the head of Christ can also
be found around the world,
541
00:31:21,292 --> 00:31:25,625
including one on display
in an Italian Cathedral that,
542
00:31:25,792 --> 00:31:29,000
to this day,
still appears to bleed.
543
00:31:38,208 --> 00:31:39,833
SHATNER:
The world watches in horror
544
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:41,833
as a massive fire rips through
545
00:31:41,958 --> 00:31:44,292
the historic
Cathedral of Notre-Dame.
546
00:31:45,625 --> 00:31:48,833
As the blaze rages on
for the next 15 hours,
547
00:31:49,042 --> 00:31:52,250
experts fear that many
of the priceless holy relics
548
00:31:52,417 --> 00:31:56,167
kept within the cathedral
will be consumed by the flames.
549
00:31:57,792 --> 00:31:59,833
Including one of the most sacred
550
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:03,500
in the entire Christian
religion, the holy crown,
551
00:32:03,667 --> 00:32:09,292
or as it is more commonly known,
the crown of thorns.
552
00:32:10,375 --> 00:32:13,208
LEWIS:
The crown of thorns is
an important biblical relic
553
00:32:13,375 --> 00:32:17,042
in the story of Jesus's Passion,
his crucifixion.
554
00:32:17,208 --> 00:32:20,208
At one point, when he's
about to be put on the cross,
555
00:32:20,375 --> 00:32:22,458
the Roman soldiers
are mocking him,
556
00:32:22,583 --> 00:32:25,750
and one of the soldiers
takes a thorny vine
557
00:32:25,875 --> 00:32:28,833
and twists it into a crown,
558
00:32:28,958 --> 00:32:32,708
and they force that down
on Jesus's head.
559
00:32:33,792 --> 00:32:37,208
MULLINS:
The crown of thorns
is described in the Bible
560
00:32:37,375 --> 00:32:42,167
as a circlet
of thorny branches that
561
00:32:42,333 --> 00:32:45,000
probably came from
what's called the jujube,
562
00:32:45,208 --> 00:32:48,417
also known as
the Christ thorn tree
563
00:32:48,583 --> 00:32:51,833
because it's a tree
that puts out very long thorns
564
00:32:52,042 --> 00:32:55,958
on branches that can be
woven into a crown,
565
00:32:56,083 --> 00:32:59,792
so it would've caused
excruciating pain,
566
00:32:59,958 --> 00:33:02,875
and would've also resulted
567
00:33:03,042 --> 00:33:06,042
in a lot of blood
on Jesus's face.
568
00:33:07,750 --> 00:33:12,458
SHATNER:
Despite the devastation caused
by the Notre-Dame fire of 2019,
569
00:33:12,583 --> 00:33:17,625
miraculously, the holy crown
was saved from destruction.
570
00:33:18,667 --> 00:33:21,417
And as images of the sacred
relic began to circulate,
571
00:33:21,542 --> 00:33:24,958
many were surprised to learn
that the crown of thorns
572
00:33:25,167 --> 00:33:29,083
no longer held
any of its piercing barbs.
573
00:33:29,250 --> 00:33:31,375
LEWIS:
The thing about
the crown of thorns is that
574
00:33:31,542 --> 00:33:33,750
these thorns
could be snapped off
575
00:33:33,958 --> 00:33:36,333
and given away
as different sorts of relics
576
00:33:36,542 --> 00:33:38,292
to different places.
577
00:33:38,458 --> 00:33:39,833
And these were
kind of dispatched.
578
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:41,792
They were sent
all over Christendom.
579
00:33:43,375 --> 00:33:46,208
FISHER:
Anything that touches
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00:33:46,375 --> 00:33:51,542
a holy person has the potential
to also become a relic.
581
00:33:52,583 --> 00:33:55,458
And so, something
like the thorns,
582
00:33:55,625 --> 00:33:59,333
which would've actually pierced
the flesh of Jesus,
583
00:33:59,500 --> 00:34:02,750
that had been covered
in the blood of Jesus,
584
00:34:02,917 --> 00:34:05,375
it's hard to imagine a relic
585
00:34:05,542 --> 00:34:07,500
more powerful
than something like this.
586
00:34:07,667 --> 00:34:11,167
PHILLIPS:
It is believed that these relics
587
00:34:11,292 --> 00:34:13,208
had amazing power,
588
00:34:13,333 --> 00:34:15,000
that they could
heal people of sickness.
589
00:34:15,167 --> 00:34:17,167
By being close to them,
590
00:34:17,292 --> 00:34:20,208
you could be imbued
with spiritual powers.
591
00:34:20,375 --> 00:34:23,708
So, in other words,
they had divine properties.
592
00:34:25,292 --> 00:34:27,042
SHATNER:
While scholars debate
the number of thorns
593
00:34:27,208 --> 00:34:29,208
that were originally
on the holy crown,
594
00:34:29,375 --> 00:34:32,708
today, there are dozens
of churches all around the world
595
00:34:32,833 --> 00:34:36,917
that claim to possess
one of these sacred relics.
596
00:34:37,083 --> 00:34:39,667
And among them is a thorn
that appears to be
597
00:34:39,833 --> 00:34:43,417
nothing short of miraculous.
598
00:34:44,500 --> 00:34:47,333
HUSSAIN:
There's a church
in Italy, in Andria,
599
00:34:47,417 --> 00:34:51,500
that has a thorn
from the crown of thorns.
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00:34:51,667 --> 00:34:56,250
And on March 25th, 2016,
601
00:34:56,417 --> 00:35:01,250
in this church in Andria,
the thorn begins to bleed.
602
00:35:02,500 --> 00:35:05,833
LEWIS:
The church maintains
that it is an authentic relic,
603
00:35:05,958 --> 00:35:10,000
and they claim that,
every time that Good Friday
604
00:35:10,208 --> 00:35:12,542
falls on a March 25th,
605
00:35:12,708 --> 00:35:16,667
the thorn itself bleeds.
606
00:35:16,833 --> 00:35:19,375
And this has been widely seen
607
00:35:19,542 --> 00:35:22,125
and was shown around
as a great miracle.
608
00:35:24,542 --> 00:35:26,333
SHATNER:
What could explain
the miraculous powers
609
00:35:26,458 --> 00:35:29,667
of the bleeding thorn
at Andria Cathedral?
610
00:35:29,875 --> 00:35:33,333
Its mere existence
is an undeniable confirmation
611
00:35:33,542 --> 00:35:35,333
of the mysteries of faith.
612
00:35:36,542 --> 00:35:40,042
CARGILL:
The Christian faith
had its central figure, Jesus,
613
00:35:40,208 --> 00:35:41,500
ascend into heaven.
614
00:35:41,708 --> 00:35:46,875
There are no remains
of Jesus from his tomb.
615
00:35:47,042 --> 00:35:49,625
And so, if you could say,
616
00:35:49,792 --> 00:35:52,625
"I believe in him,
but how do I prove this faith?"
617
00:35:52,792 --> 00:35:57,833
Well, here, these are the thorns
of this crown of thorns,
618
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:01,917
and then that gives a little
tangibility to that faith.
619
00:36:03,167 --> 00:36:07,000
SHATNER:
But not all relics are
so easily accepted as authentic.
620
00:36:07,208 --> 00:36:09,208
Like an ancient limestone box
621
00:36:09,375 --> 00:36:11,833
that is claimed to have once
held the remains
622
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:15,833
of the brother of Jesus Christ.
623
00:36:25,625 --> 00:36:29,083
SHATNER:
On the third floor
of the Royal Ontario Museum,
624
00:36:29,208 --> 00:36:32,292
a remarkable artifact
is put on display.
625
00:36:33,250 --> 00:36:35,333
At the time, patrons don't know
626
00:36:35,542 --> 00:36:37,375
this humble object
will soon become
627
00:36:37,583 --> 00:36:42,000
one of the most controversial
holy relics in history.
628
00:36:42,167 --> 00:36:47,208
It is an empty limestone box
dating to the first century AD,
629
00:36:47,375 --> 00:36:51,333
known as the James Ossuary.
630
00:36:53,417 --> 00:36:56,542
JAMES TABOR:
Ossuary literally means
"bone box."
631
00:36:56,708 --> 00:37:00,500
So, in Judaism, in the time
of Jesus particularly,
632
00:37:00,625 --> 00:37:04,958
ossuaries were very common
for Jewish burial.
633
00:37:05,125 --> 00:37:08,667
CRAIG EVANS:
The Jewish practice was,
when a person died,
634
00:37:08,833 --> 00:37:10,250
the skeletal remains
would be gathered up
635
00:37:10,417 --> 00:37:13,500
and placed in a niche
or in an ossuary.
636
00:37:14,417 --> 00:37:17,125
And there were thousands
of these made.
637
00:37:17,292 --> 00:37:19,292
But what was valuable
about these ossuaries
638
00:37:19,500 --> 00:37:22,625
is people's names
would be written on them.
639
00:37:25,833 --> 00:37:28,250
SHATNER:
In the case
of the James Ossuary,
640
00:37:28,417 --> 00:37:30,333
the name of the person
whose bones it holds
641
00:37:30,500 --> 00:37:32,500
is inscribed in Aramaic.
642
00:37:32,625 --> 00:37:34,500
Which, when translated
to English,
643
00:37:34,708 --> 00:37:36,500
reveals something astonishing.
644
00:37:44,750 --> 00:37:47,333
The story of
the James Ossuary itself
645
00:37:47,500 --> 00:37:50,917
first came to attention in 2002
646
00:37:51,083 --> 00:37:53,583
when an Israeli
antiquities dealer
647
00:37:53,750 --> 00:37:58,083
by the name of Oded Golan
announced its discovery.
648
00:37:58,208 --> 00:38:01,000
Now, he claimed
to have bought it
649
00:38:01,208 --> 00:38:04,667
on the antiquities market
in the 1970s.
650
00:38:04,833 --> 00:38:08,375
And most certainly,
this ossuary would attract
651
00:38:08,542 --> 00:38:11,458
worldwide attention and fame
652
00:38:11,625 --> 00:38:15,208
and perhaps even fortune,
uh, for its discoverer.
653
00:38:16,250 --> 00:38:18,292
HUSSAIN:
If you're a Christian,
if you know the Bible,
654
00:38:18,458 --> 00:38:21,667
you know that James
is one of the key figures
655
00:38:21,875 --> 00:38:23,625
in early Christianity.
656
00:38:23,750 --> 00:38:26,292
James the Just, as-as he's known
within the church,
657
00:38:26,458 --> 00:38:28,208
the brother of Jesus.
658
00:38:28,375 --> 00:38:30,708
And so, if this ossuary
659
00:38:30,875 --> 00:38:34,500
literally is
the bone box of James,
660
00:38:34,708 --> 00:38:37,167
then you've got direct
archeological evidence
661
00:38:37,333 --> 00:38:39,292
for Jesus.
662
00:38:39,458 --> 00:38:42,292
Now, of course,
there's controversy around this.
663
00:38:43,792 --> 00:38:46,292
SHATNER:
Of the thousands
of bone boxes recovered
664
00:38:46,500 --> 00:38:49,667
from the time of Jesus,
could the James Ossuary
665
00:38:49,792 --> 00:38:52,417
have once held the remains
of his actual brother?
666
00:38:52,583 --> 00:38:54,375
It's an extraordinary notion.
667
00:38:54,542 --> 00:38:59,333
So extraordinary, in fact,
that not everyone was convinced
668
00:38:59,458 --> 00:39:02,458
of the James Ossuary's
authenticity.
669
00:39:03,542 --> 00:39:05,542
In a case that would
become known as
670
00:39:05,708 --> 00:39:07,750
the forgery trial
of the century,
671
00:39:07,917 --> 00:39:11,000
the Israeli government
charged Oded Golan
672
00:39:11,167 --> 00:39:14,708
in December of 2004
with 44 counts
673
00:39:14,875 --> 00:39:18,750
of fraud related
to the James Ossuary.
674
00:39:20,125 --> 00:39:23,375
The trial lasted seven years.
675
00:39:23,583 --> 00:39:26,792
There was hundreds of thousands
of pages of testimony,
676
00:39:26,958 --> 00:39:30,333
and one of the main pieces
of evidence
677
00:39:30,458 --> 00:39:32,875
was the patina in the letters.
678
00:39:33,875 --> 00:39:38,167
Patina is this
sort of surface coating
679
00:39:38,292 --> 00:39:40,458
that gets on stone,
680
00:39:40,583 --> 00:39:44,333
and when it was
examined microscopically
681
00:39:44,500 --> 00:39:47,167
by several
very major authorities,
682
00:39:47,375 --> 00:39:50,167
they found
these fossilized microbes.
683
00:39:50,292 --> 00:39:53,292
And so, there was
original patina
684
00:39:53,458 --> 00:39:58,083
on the surface and inside
the inscription.
685
00:39:58,208 --> 00:40:00,000
That can't be forged.
686
00:40:01,042 --> 00:40:05,542
When the verdict came through,
the judge ruled
687
00:40:05,708 --> 00:40:10,625
there's no evidence
that Oded Golan forged it.
688
00:40:13,208 --> 00:40:15,375
SHATNER:
To date, the James Ossuary
689
00:40:15,542 --> 00:40:18,417
is one of the few relics
associated with Jesus
690
00:40:18,583 --> 00:40:21,000
that has been tested
both scientifically
691
00:40:21,208 --> 00:40:22,583
and in a court of law.
692
00:40:22,750 --> 00:40:25,042
And if the James Ossuary
is authentic,
693
00:40:25,208 --> 00:40:27,042
as many now believe,
694
00:40:27,208 --> 00:40:29,125
it would be
one of the most valuable
695
00:40:29,292 --> 00:40:31,958
biblical artifacts
ever discovered.
696
00:40:33,917 --> 00:40:38,125
But like so many other objects,
we may never know the truth.
697
00:40:38,292 --> 00:40:42,542
CARGILL:
Remember that people of faith
are using these objects
698
00:40:42,750 --> 00:40:45,958
as a means by which
to connect to the divine.
699
00:40:46,125 --> 00:40:50,750
And then the question is:
Is there a credible provenance
700
00:40:50,875 --> 00:40:54,167
of all of these articles, all
of these objects, these relics?
701
00:40:54,292 --> 00:40:56,833
And therein lies the mystery.
702
00:40:57,042 --> 00:40:59,500
HUSSAIN:
The Bible is not meant
to be a history book.
703
00:40:59,625 --> 00:41:02,125
It's a mythological book.
704
00:41:02,292 --> 00:41:05,333
But today, we've got 3D imaging.
705
00:41:05,500 --> 00:41:07,500
We've got
artificial intelligence.
706
00:41:07,708 --> 00:41:09,958
We've got all kinds
of spectrographical analysis.
707
00:41:10,125 --> 00:41:12,625
And there's certain things
that we can point to and say,
708
00:41:12,792 --> 00:41:14,583
"Oh, we actually have
historical evidence.
709
00:41:14,708 --> 00:41:19,125
This actually is
a miraculous object."
710
00:41:21,708 --> 00:41:24,125
It's intriguing to think
that artifacts
711
00:41:24,292 --> 00:41:27,667
from more than 2,000 years ago
might still be uncovered
712
00:41:27,875 --> 00:41:30,500
and added to the collection
of revered objects
713
00:41:30,667 --> 00:41:32,750
we know as holy relics.
714
00:41:32,875 --> 00:41:35,667
Regardless if one thinks
they are real or not,
715
00:41:35,792 --> 00:41:39,167
these artifacts hold
both historical importance
716
00:41:39,375 --> 00:41:42,542
and profound
spiritual connection
717
00:41:42,708 --> 00:41:44,458
for those who believe.
718
00:41:44,583 --> 00:41:46,667
And in any case,
719
00:41:46,875 --> 00:41:49,833
whether they are charged
with divine energy
720
00:41:50,042 --> 00:41:52,833
or operate on the power
of faith itself,
721
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:57,417
the mystery of
ancient biblical relics
722
00:41:57,583 --> 00:42:01,208
remains unexplained.
723
00:42:01,333 --> 00:42:03,792
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