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Where are we going?
We're going down this way.
Got a drink?
Got a drink?
Yes.
Can you get me a Coca-Cola
for Mr. bowie, please?
I'm only using rock 'n' roll
as a medium.
I don't think it had been really
voiced before then.
I wanted to be the instigator of
new ideas.
I wanted to turn people on to
new things and new perspectives.
I always wanted to be that sort
of catalystic kind of thing.
♪ Fame ♪
♪ Fame ♪
♪ Makes a man
take things over ♪
I mean, the image you have is
almost nothing to do with your
real life.
Real life.
It depends which image you're
talking about.
There are so many because, of
course, there will be so many.
It's like looking at an actor's
films and taking clippings from
the films and saying, "here he
is."
Well, that's why you're
different from most rock stars.
Yeah, well, I'm not a rock
star, you see?
You've just said it.
I'm not in rock 'n' roll.
That's nice.
♪ Fashion ♪
♪ Turn to the left ♪
♪ Fashion ♪
♪ Turn to the right ♪
♪ Ooh ♪
♪ Fashion ♪
♪ We are the goon squad,
and we're coming to town ♪
And we're coming to town ♪
I've always found that I
collect.
I'm a collector.
And I've always just seemed to
collect personalities, ideas.
♪ Let's dance ♪
♪ Put on your red shoes
and dance the blues ♪
I'm a storyteller and a story
writer, and I decided that I
prefer to enact a lot of the
material I was writing rather
than perform it as myself.
♪ Here's a starman
waiting in the sky ♪
♪ There's a starman
waiting in the sky ♪
I'm a fairly good social
observer, and I think that I
encapsulate areas maybe every
year or so.
I try and stamp that down
somewhere, the quintessence of
that year.
That year.
♪ Let me make it plain ♪
♪ Gotta make way
for the homo superior ♪
♪ Ch-ch-ch-changes ♪
♪ Ch-ch-ch-changes ♪
♪ Learn to face the stranger ♪
♪ Ch-ch-changes ♪
♪ Don't want to have to be
a richer man ♪
♪ Ch-ch-ch-ch-changes ♪
♪ Turn and face the stranger ♪
♪ Ch-ch-changes ♪
♪ I just wanted to be
a better man ♪
♪ But time may change me ♪
♪ But I can't trace time ♪
I got a call from David.
He called me directly, and he
said, "can you come over to the
house?"
And I sat there with him, and
he took out this battered, old
he took out this battered, old
12-string guitar and said, "I'm
going to play you some songs."
And he played me these songs one
after the other.
♪ It's a god-awful,
small affair ♪
♪ To the girl
with the mousy hair ♪
♪ But her mommy
is yelling "no" ♪
♪ And her daddy
has told her to go ♪
Has told her to go ♪
♪ But her friend is nowhere
to be seen ♪
♪ Now she walks
through her sunken dream ♪
"Life on Mars?" From
"hunky dory" was certainly the
stand-out song for me, but it
was a challenge in certain
areas, because of some of the
chord structure, because he
would lead you down the garden
path with quite a bog-standard
chord structure and then
suddenly go awol.
Now I've got to try and remember
this, because it's 40 years
since I've played it, but...
♪ But her friend is nowhere
to be seen ♪
♪ Now she walks
through her sunken dream ♪
♪ To the seat
with the clearest view ♪
Now, this is a classic
example of where he throws in a
chord that you wouldn't expect.
Chord that you wouldn't expect.
Normally after...
You would expect it to go back
there, but he doesn't.
He goes...
But the thing that makes it
really clever is he put an
e-flat in the bass, which just
gives it a bass part that you
can start to move on.
Really clever, so you've got...
♪ But the film
is a saddening bore ♪
♪ For she's lived it
ten times or more ♪
Ten times or more ♪
Now, after that chord, you would
expect it to go to...
But he doesn't.
I mean, nobody -- only David
would do something like that.
It's a piano player's joy.
In fact, I must go home and
learn it.
♪ Take a look at the lawman
beating up the wrong guy ♪
♪ Oh, man! ♪
♪ Wonder if he'll ever know ♪
♪ He's in the best-selling
show-ow ♪
♪ Is there life on ma-a-a-rs? ♪
"Life on Mars?" Is sort of
"life on Mars?" Is sort of
magic realism, really, if you
listen to it, that you recognize
it as a song about britain.
And there are references in it
which anyone who grew up in
suburbia would understand.
Very mundane, and yet it's
magical.
You know, he's seen the cosmos
in the bus stop.
♪ It's on America's
tortured brow ♪
♪ That Mickey mouse has grown up
a cow ♪
♪ Now the workers have struck
for fame ♪
♪ 'Cause Lennon's on sale
again ♪
Again ♪
So, we'd finished
"hunky dory," and a couple of
weeks later I ran into David
walking along the corridor of
trident studios, and he comes up
to me.
He says, "we're going to record
a new album, but you're not
going to like it."
I said, "why?"
And he said, "well, this is
much more rock 'n' roll."
♪ I'm an alligator ♪
♪ I'm a mama-papa
coming for you ♪
Bowie's always been brilliant
at finding the right
collaborators.
He had the extraordinary
Mick Ronson, who could strike
amazing "guitar hero" poses and
fill the hall with riffs in
such a way that bowie shared the
stage with Ronson in a way that
he's never shared a stage with
anybody else.
♪ Freak out
♪ freak out
in a moonage daydream ♪
♪ Oh, yeah ♪
When I first heard him play,
I thought, "that's my Jeff Beck.
He is fantastic.
This kid is great."
And so I sort of hoodwinked him
into working with me.
I forget how it goes, but, I
mean, that's basically...
He is good at stealing.
You've only got to look at
Ziggy, really.
I mean, there is a lot of
Lou Reed in there, a lot of
iggy pop in there, you know?
A lot of all sorts of influences
that he has got in there, you
know.
So, he would steal little bits.
♪ Oh, don't lean on me, man ♪
♪ 'Cause you can't afford
the ticket ♪
♪ I'm back on suffragette city ♪
♪ Oh, don't lean on me, man ♪
♪ 'Cause you can't afford
to check it ♪
♪ I'm back on suffragette city ♪
♪ Is out of sight ♪
♪ Is out of sight ♪
It just seemed a perfectly
natural thing for me at the
time, to put together all these
odds and ends of art and culture
that I really adored.
It was just sort of creating
something thoroughly artificial,
but something that worked in
the confines of rock 'n' roll.
♪ There's only room for one,
and here she comes ♪
♪ Here she comes ♪
What Ziggy stardust does is
it projects him as a rock star.
He sings about the imagined
experience of being a rock star,
experience of being a rock star,
and in doing that becomes a
rock star.
And there is a story about his
wife, Angie, in the front row,
screaming at him as if he was a
rock star, despite the fact that
two men and a dog were there.
What happens, then, really, is
that the world fulfills his
fantasy.
It aligns itself with what he
wants to be, which I think is
what psychologists call
"self-actualization."
Not many people can do it, but
he did.
♪ Ziggy played guitar ♪
♪ Ziggy played guitar ♪
♪ Jamming good
with weird and gilly
and the spiders from Mars ♪
♪ And he played it left-hand ♪
♪ But he made it too fa-a-r ♪
I'd found my character.
One man against the world,
things like -- really
reverberated in my mind.
It was something that I really,
kind of, honed in on.
♪ Screwed-up eyes
and screwed-down hairdo,
like some cat from Japan ♪
Like some cat from Japan ♪
♪ Oh, he could kill 'em
by smiling ♪
Ziggy was this kind of
mythological priest figure.
And I only say that in
retrospect because I didn't
quite know what he was then.
But it does occur to me now
that the androgyny of some of
the tribal priests throughout
history have been transvestite
in nature.
I only know this because I read
Camille paglia on the subject.
Ziggy stardust is, to me, a
kind of colossus that marks a
kind of colossus that marks a
tremendous transition between
the 1960s and the 1970s.
♪ ...about his fans ♪
♪ And should we crush
his sweet hands? ♪
The 1970s were a dark era,
where sexual promiscuity for its
own sake was pursued in a way
that had never been so universal
since probably the Roman empire.
Sex without consequence,
anonymous sex, pick-ups in dark
clubs.
Clubs.
So, Ziggy stardust, when he
appeared, was a kind of
prefiguration, almost like the
book of revelations, a
hallucination of an apocalypse
about to occur.
♪ Making love with his ego ♪
♪ Ziggy sucked up into his mind
like a leper Messiah ♪
Like a leper Messiah ♪
♪ When the kids
had killed the man,
I had to break up the band ♪
♪ Oh, yeah ♪
♪ And Ziggy played guitar ♪
At that particular time,
I was chopping and changing
really quite drastically.
The music that I was listening
to was definitely the soul music
that was really, really big in
the clubs in America at that
particular time.
Particular time.
♪ Oh-ho ho ♪
So, I kind of tried to do my
own version of that kind of
music, which was the basis of
the "young Americans" album.
♪ Whoa-oh-oh-oh, hoo-ooh-ooh ♪
I'd become soul man.
When David really decided
that he wanted to be a soul man,
he said to me, "so, how shall we
do it?
Where shall we go?"
You know, to get the people, the
singers and the band and all
singers and the band and all
that.
And I said, "we should go to.
New York, to Harlem, and go to
the Apollo.
So, he was like, "okay."
So, we went backstage, and he
met everyone.
I didn't know who David bowie
was, but I did know this was
the whitest man I've ever seen.
I'm not talking about white,
like pink.
I'm talking about translucent
white.
And then he had orange hair.
I'm not talking about your
momma's orange.
I'm talking about an orange,
orange!
Orange!
And he was about 98 pounds.
I'm talking about thin, thin.
I mean, he was freaky.
At one point I told him,
"man" -- and you'll have to
excuse the language -- "you
look like shit, man.
You need some food.
You need to come to my house."
Come forward.
Yeah, that's great.
Carlos had been able to
introduce me to a lot of
fantastic new musicians, one
of whom was Luther vandross, of
course.
So, you have this amazing
collaboration between bowie and
collaboration between bowie and
soon to be one of the greatest
soul singers of all time,
Luther vandross, along with some
of the other background singers
who would sing with Luther.
♪ Taking it all
the right way ♪
♪ Keeping it in the back ♪
♪ Taking it all the right way ♪
♪ Never no turning back ♪
♪ No, never no turning back ♪
♪ Taking it all the right way ♪
♪ Taking it all the right way ♪
♪ Keeping it in the back ♪
♪ Taking it all the right way ♪
♪ Never no turning back ♪
♪ Never need ♪
♪ No, never no turning back ♪
"Right," from the
"young Americans" album, was a
difficult song, but Luther put
it all together for him.
We had...
♪ Taking it all the right way ♪
♪ Keeping it in the back ♪
♪ Taking it all the right way ♪
♪ Never no turning back ♪
♪ Never need no... ♪
♪ Never need no... ♪
And then that section comes in.
♪ Wishing, wishing, sometime
doing it
up there ♪
♪ Nobody ♪
♪ Nobody doing it, getting up ♪
That was so hard.
♪ Time ♪
♪ Doing it ♪
♪ Giving it ♪
♪ Keeping it back ♪
That's cool. That's cool.
Next one.
David had, like, a puzzle.
Just the last line.
He brought this paper to us,
and he said, "this is how I want
you to sing this."
You to sing this."
Oh, sorry, man, I wasn't with
you.
It wasn't a straight, "just
sing it linearly and
melodically."
♪ Doing it ♪
Oh, I see, you count from...
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I thought you were doing an
intro.
Right. Three...
Right. One, two...
It was, "I want it to jump in
here, and I want you to jump out
there, and jump back in here."
♪ Keeping it back ♪
Right, that's fine. Okay.
So, we got that.
That one's all right.
That, too, was the first time
I ever seen anything like that
in my life.
But it was brilliant, because
he knew exactly what he wanted.
He knew exactly what he wanted.
Right, okay, and last
section.
♪ Gimme, gimme, yeah ♪
♪ Doing it ♪
Oh, lord, it was too much.
It was like, "man, I'll be glad
when we finish with this song."
♪ Wishing ♪
♪ That sometimes ♪
♪ Sometimes ♪
♪ Doing it, doing it right ♪
♪ Doing it ♪
♪ One time ♪
♪ One time ♪
There was no point in doing a
straightforward take on
American soul music, because
American soul music, because
that's been done already.
So, I just wanted to put this
spin on it.
♪ Pushing it sometimes, yeah ♪
Eventually, of course, when the
album came out, it was very
well-received, and
"young Americans" became a very
big album for me.
I mean, I really sort of
advanced myself.
I sort of was tumbling over
myself with ideas.
♪ Sometimes ♪
In terms of the
"young Americans" stuff, it was
a chance that he grabbed to be
able to do something he had
able to do something he had
wanted to do since he was 12.
And he may have thought, "I
won't have a 40-something,
50-year-old career," and he may
have thought, "well, I'm going
to get this in while I can."
♪ He pulls her down
behind the bridge ♪
♪ He lays her down ♪
♪ She frowns ♪
♪ "Gee my life's a funny thing ♪
♪ Am I still too young?" ♪
♪ He takes her hand and there ♪
♪ She takes his ring,
takes his babies ♪
♪ Takes him minutes ♪
♪ Takes him minutes ♪
♪ Takes her nowhere ♪
♪ Heaven knows,
she'd have taken anything ♪
♪ All night ♪
♪ All night ♪
♪ She wants the young American ♪
♪ Young American,
young American ♪
♪ She wants the young American ♪
♪ All right ♪
After we finished
"young Americans," he called me
down to electric lady studio.
"Okay, let's get to work."
And I started laying down ideas
and laying down ideas.
Let me show you.
I'm going to play the first
I'm going to play the first
thing that we did and how we
layered it so you can hear what
happens.
First part, add a little bass.
Doesn't that sound like "fame"?
David comes in.
He goes, "oh, I hear this line."
What happened is that
John Lennon came to the session.
We sort of said, "let's take
that riff and then write
something over it."
It was Carlos' riff.
"Fame."
John was playing, and he kept
on coming up with, "ame! Ame!"
And I put an "f" in front of it,
and that was it, really.
♪ Fame ♪
♪ Fame ♪
♪ Makes a man
take things over ♪
♪ Fame ♪
♪ Fame ♪
♪ Lets him loose,
hard to swallow ♪
♪ Fame ♪
♪ Fame ♪
♪ Puts you there,
where things are hollow ♪
♪ Fame ♪
♪ Fame ♪
♪ Fame ♪
♪ Fame ♪
♪ Not your brain ♪
♪ It's just the flame
that burns your change
to keep you insane ♪
♪ Sane ♪
♪ Fame ♪
♪ Fame ♪
Now, you've got an
announcement to make to us all,
David, haven't you?
You're changing your plans for
the future.
You haven't planned a figure.
You haven't planned an image,
whatever that may mean.
I think the image I may
adopt may well be me.
I'm sort of inventing me at the
I'm sort of inventing me at the
moment.
I gather that at your end,
you have some music with you.
The song is called "the shape of
things to come."
No, it isn't.
No, of course it isn't.
We're having a preview of
the shape of things to come.
The song is called
"golden tears."
Mr. David bowie, we'll --
"years."
You did get it wrong.
It's years.
Years.
Years.
Why don't you introduce it
from that end?
This is David bowie singing
"golden years," from his
"golden years," from his
forthcoming album,
"station to station."
♪ Golden years,
♪ gold ♪
♪ Golden years ♪
♪ Gold ♪
♪ Don't let me hear you say
life's taking you nowhere ♪
♪ Angel ♪
♪ Come, get up, my baby ♪
♪ Look at that sky ♪
♪ Life's begun ♪
♪ Nights are warm,
and the days are young ♪
And the days are young ♪
♪ Come, get up, my baby ♪
♪ There's my baby lost ♪
♪ That's all ♪
♪ Once I'm begging
you save her little soul ♪
♪ Gold ♪
It was kind of a very weird
time, and it was L.A., and it
was the '70s, and it was coke,
and it was weird people hanging
around and people who didn't
speak and just whistled.
And stuff
like that.
"You know, man, Heavy."
"You know, man, Heavy."
It was like being on another
planet, yeah.
♪ Run for the shadows ♪
♪ Run for the shadows
in these golden years ♪
I was probably fairly
psychically damaged.
Not probably -- I was
psychically damaged.
I guess trying to get what I was
understanding expressed in
musical form.
Everybody was on drugs.
At that period of time, we were
all well out there.
But not so out there that we
but not so out there that we
didn't make a great record.
So, I mean, you know.
Or maybe our view of being out
there and people's views of
being out there doesn't
necessarily correlate with the
fact that we were incapable of
making a record.
So, whatever "out there" was,
"out there" worked.
I think the biggest influence
on that album was the work of
kraftwerk and the new German
sound.
I tried to apply some of the
randomness, and I utilized a
lot of that feeling for
especially the title track,
"station to station."
"Station to station."
The feedback intro at the
beginning of
"station to station" was an idea
that David had.
So, we had a few Marshall stacks
on the back wall, and we just
did the feedback together,
something like...
Earl slick was asked to do
something that was unnatural and
that was, "I want you to sustain
a note for, like, 15 years."
Boom!
I mean, and you're waiting for
your part, but you can't.
You got to hold it.
Don't play.
Don't play.
Just hold it.
Finally, you get to play one
little thing.
"Station to station," I
really can't put a title on what
it is he does.
I mean, I can put a title on
"young Americans," but
everything after that, I don't
have a title for it.
It was supposed to be deadly
and just brutal, just this hard,
hard, heavy, dark, dark texture
that just laid down.
Just bog it down, bog it down.
♪ The return
of the thin white Duke ♪
♪ Throwing darts
in lovers' eyes ♪
♪ Here am I ♪
♪ Here am I ♪
♪ One magical movement ♪
♪ Such is the stuff
from where dreams are woven ♪
"Station to station" dealt with
a character called the thin
white Duke, who was a European
living in America, who wanted to
get back to Europe again.
♪ Bending sound ♪
♪ Dredging the ocean,
lost in my circle ♪
You know what I think?
I think a lot of really nasty
shit happened, business-wise,
shit happened, business-wise,
and with hangers-on and all
these useless fucks that you
accumulate.
♪ It's not the side effects
of the cocaine ♪
♪ I'm thinking
that it must be love ♪
♪ It's too late to be grateful ♪
♪ It's too late
to be late again ♪
♪ It's too late to be hateful ♪
♪ The European Cannon is here ♪
And I started really getting
and I started really getting
very, very worried for my life.
I just had to get myself out of
that situation.
It wasn't surprising at all
that he wanted away from L.A.
He hated L.A. towards the end.
L.A. at that point was a very,
very alien society.
It was kind of unreal with
unreal people.
I just did too much, and I
came close several times to
overdosing.
It was like being in a car,
where the steering had gone out
of control, and you were going
of control, and you were going
towards the edge of a cliff.
I'd almost resigned myself to
the fact that I'm going over the
edge.
You know, I'm not going to be
able to stop.
♪ Too late to be hateful ♪
I was tiring of the method I was
writing.
I wanted to develop a new
language, and so I knew that my
next move was to have to do
that.
I discarded for the time being
characters and environments.
I couldn't look at myself
properly at the time.
I needed some help and who
better to work with, I thought,
than eno.
And, of course, I found what I
consider a soul mate there.
Well, he's a constantly
changing person.
I knew he was sort of getting
I knew he was sort of getting
tired with the way he'd been
working.
I knew also that he liked a
particular album that I had made
very much.
It was "discreet music," which
is my longest, slowest, quietest
album.
The fact that he liked that sort
the fact that he liked that sort
of alerted me to the idea that
he was wanting to go somewhere
else in his own music.
We would get in the studio.
It was really wide open.
That's why I like doing
recordings with him because it
was, like, real easy, you know?
Until Brian eno came along.
That Brian eno, he was a
character.
The problem actually I had at
that time was that I didn't
really understand how good
musicians worked.
I'm not a musician myself in
that sense.
Brian eno had a blackboard,
Brian eno had a blackboard,
you know, like elementary
school, you know?
I'm like, "you've got a
blackboard.
So?"
So, we started coming up with
these ideas for different
chords.
"E," "c," "g," "b," and so
he'd go, "okay, so, I'm going to
point to that chord, and you
play that chord, and then I'll
point to another."
So, I'm playing "d."
When you're working with
when you're working with
really great players, like
Carlos and Dennis, you have to
accept that they have a way of
processing information that is
beyond intellectual.
"Dude, man.
Hey, Brian, look?
What are you...
This is...
This isn't working for me,
man."
But with their incredibly
natural musicianship, the two
together produce something that,
again, one wouldn't have had
with either on their own.
I mean, some of it worked.
I mean, some of it worked.
Some of it didn't.
But, quite honestly, it did take
me out of my comfort zone, and
it did make me leave my
frustration at what I was doing
and totally look at it from
another different point of view.
And although I didn't like the
point of view, when I came back,
I was fresh.
I think eno opened up new
doors of perception.
Doors of perception.
In terms of the use of the
studio, I'd never used a studio
in quite the way that Brian was
using it.
I received a phone call from
David and Brian eno, and they
said, "what could you bring to
the table?"
I said, "well, I've got this new
thing called a harmonizer."
And they said, "what does this
thing do?"
And I thought, and I said, "it
fucks with the fabric of time.
This is science fiction."
And I could hear the two of them
whooping on the other end.
Whooping on the other end.
They just went, like, "whoa!
Whoo!"
Something like that, you know.
It was very exciting because
it enabled you to change the
pitch of things.
So, what we did with Dennis'
snare drum was we fed it
through the harmonizer, dropped
its pitch, and then fed that
back through again.
So it goes...
But faster.
♪ Baby ♪
♪ I've been ♪
♪ Breaking glass
in your room again ♪
In your room again ♪
♪ Listen ♪
It just needed a positive
decision to only do what I want
to do and not do things for
the sake of what, either
David bowie or whoever I was
playing last time,
thin white Duke or something,
was expected to do.
♪ I drew something awful
on it ♪
What I think excites both of
us is the idea of going where
nobody's been before and trying
to find out what you could do
to find out what you could do
there, you know.
David, I think, was really
interested in new moods and
landscapes and textures that
you could get with electronics,
and he didn't feel a compulsion
to turn everything into a song.
On "warszawa," he was using
sort of non-language.
So, they still weren't songs in
so, they still weren't songs in
the conventional sense.
Such a bold experiment for
somebody like him to make, you
know?
♪ Sula vie milejo ♪
♪ Sula vie milejo ♪
♪ Mejo ♪
The music to me sounds really
a little a bit alienated, so
a little a bit alienated, so
I'm very surprised --
alienated from what?
From... From... From...
Okay, from my world.
From your world?
Uh-huh, okay.
Can you understand it, or is
it...
Yes, I can because it's new
language.
I went naked in Berlin.
I really did try and strip down
my life to what I believed to be
absolute basic essentials so I
could build up again.
I virtually gave a lot of
possessions away, and my
wardrobe really was just jeans
and checked shirts, and that's
how I walked about, and I had a
bicycle, and that was it.
I think it was the first freedom
I'd had from all those so-called
trappings of celebrity.
David and I were talking.
We had a number of pieces in
progress, and David said,
"well, what do you think?
What should we do next?
How should we work on them?"
I said, "well, why don't we call
fripp and see what he would
offer?"
The voice came on and said,
the voice came on and said,
"it's Brian. Hello!
I'm here with David.
We're in Berlin.
"Hang on.
I'll pass you over."
So, eno passed the phone over to
David, and David said, "hello.
We're here in...
Do you think you can play some
hairy rock 'n' roll guitar?"
What is hairy rock 'n' roll?
It has danger.
What is the difference between
pop and rock 'n' roll?
You might get fucked.
You might get fucked.
Can you put that, or should I
express it in alternative
terminology?
It was a collaboration, a
highly successful collaboration,
the new one, and with the
addition of fripp as middleman,
I think that helped an awful
lot, as well.
[ Introduction to "heroes"
[ plays ]
♪ I ♪
♪ I ♪
♪ I wish you could swim ♪
Fripp's plaintive guitar cry
really triggered off something
emotive in me, and it was a song
of triumph, and it was like,
"I've been a real idiot some of
my life and put myself in
ridiculously dangerous
situations, and I seem to have
been getting through it."
And that became part and parcel
of that song.
You can overcome some incredible
odds.
♪ We can beat them ♪
♪ Forever and ever ♪
♪ Forever and ever ♪
♪ Oh, we can be heroes ♪
♪ Just for one day ♪
Fripp did three takes on it,
and we used all three.
This is Tony Visconti's genius
that he can do that without it
sounding a mess.
David sat down in the control
room, and he said, "could you
just take a walk?"
He goes, "I'm writing, and I
he goes, "I'm writing, and I
just want to be to myself and
I want to finish these lyrics."
So, I was having a little
flirtation, shall we say, with
the singer antonia maass.
She was the female vocalist on
the album.
We walked outside the studio
where, from the control room,
you could see the Berlin wall,
and you could see a lot of
rubble, and you could see the
guards and the gun turrets.
Guards and the gun turrets.
And right beneath the window, we
had a little snog.
And David saw that and he said,
"that's the second verse!"
♪ And we kissed
as though nothing could fall ♪
The thing that was most
exciting about it all is that I
found that without drugs I was
still writing very well, you
know, and that was probably the
most rejuvenating aspect of it
all is that you don't need to
get stoned out of your gourd to
get stoned out of your gourd to
write well, you know?
I think that was, you know, an
incredibly important period for
me.
Not very fast, are you?
I can't say it was like night
and day that suddenly I was
this different person.
It wasn't.
It took quite a long time.
But I think, you know, I did see
light at the end of the tunnel,
and it wasn't a train.
♪ Do you remember a guy
that's been
in such an early song?
♪ I heard a rumor
from ground control ♪
♪ Oh, no, don't say it's true ♪
It is very interesting that
it is very interesting that
at the end of the '70s, he goes
back to his first key character.
Major tom returns.
But then he takes the character
of major tom, puts it in a new
song, and does very interesting
things with it.
So, major tom becomes a much
more sort of discomfiting,
sinister figure.
♪ Pictures of jap girls
in synthesis,
and I ain't got no money,
and I ain't got no hair ♪
David rang me.
"Could we make a video for this
new single?"
And he said, "I want to be a
clown on a beach."
Clown on a beach."
I said, "oh, whoopee, I've just
done something on a beach, and
by accident I found this great
effect of making the sky black
and everybody have a halo.
Then he wanted a digge
♪ we know major tom's
a junkie ♪
David allows me lots and lots
of freedom to do very much what
I want, the ways I want it
edited.
I storyboard it for him, show
him exactly what frames I want
done.
And then he puts his input in,
as well.
And, especially on
"ashes to ashes," the
combination has been very
successful.
The people round the bonfire
on the beach in "ashes to ashes"
were people from blitz, which is
a London club, which was the
precursor of the modern romantic
movement.
And David managed to clock the
whole modern romantic movement
way before anybody else.
♪ Major tom ♪
♪ Major tom ♪
It showed him co-opting a new
phase of youth culture, which
he'd been the key figure in
inspiring in the first place.
So, some might say he was
imitating his imitators.
Others were saying he was buying
them off and getting them
on board.
It's certainly one of the
better songs I've ever written,
in terms of familiarity and a
song that really kind of hooks
song that really kind of hooks
in.
I felt very positive about the
future, and I think I just got
down to writing a really
comprehensive and well-crafted
album.
David came into the studio
with a lot of ideas, and I
remember he had his demos on
this new contraption called a
walkman.
Carlos alomar flipped when he
saw it and heard it.
"Fashion" for the
"scary monsters" album, David
had this need to kind of maybe
even reproduce a little bit of
the "fame" feeling, and so he
the "fame" feeling, and so he
wanted to keep everything up so
as to kind of give him a secure,
commercially viable album that
he could work with.
And so "fashion" started just
with this very, very funky beat.
Then it grew it into a monster.
People started over-dubbing
stuff on it.
Fripp started overdubbing
this crazy guitar to it.
It was just evolving into a
fantastic track.
Fantastic track.
I don't believe you'll find
another guitarist who would have
played that to that.
It's very out.
From a point of view of making a
contribution to the work of an
artist with their producer, the
opportunity to do that and be
supported and encouraged in
it...
It's out.
It's out.
It's out.
♪ There's a brand-new dance,
but I don't know its name ♪
♪ That people from bad homes
do again and again ♪
It was kind of a little wary of
the lemming-like quality that
people were slaves to fashion.
♪ It's big and it's bland,
full of tension and fear ♪
It was dictatorial authority
that the thing seems to grasp
people.
It was a lightweight, throwaway
it was a lightweight, throwaway
song, I think, as important as
fashion.
♪ Fashion, turn to the left ♪
♪ Fashion, turn to the right ♪
♪ Oooh, fashion ♪
♪ We are the goon squad,
and we're coming to town,
beep-beep ♪
"We are the goon squad, and
we're coming to town,
beep-beep."
Now, ain't that a line which
sticks in the mind?
Sticks in the mind?
♪ Listen to me ♪
♪ Don't listen to me ♪
♪ Talk to me ♪
♪ Don't talk to me ♪
♪ Dance with me ♪
♪ Don't dance with me ♪
♪ No ♪
♪ Beep-beep ♪
♪ Beep-beep ♪
I think I wanted to re-evaluate
what I wanted to do, musically.
I did a hell of a lot in a short
period, and I needed to get some
space away from writing music
because it was becoming,
possibly, too much of an
exercise, and the enthusiasm had
gone.
But now it seems to be back
again.
Emi are celebrating.
Against serious opposition and
for very serious money, they've
just signed a real superstar.
Ladies and gentleman,
Mr. David bowie.
Emi don't give lavish
receptions like this very often.
Receptions like this very often.
They won't say how much they
paid for bowie, but rumors
range from £10 million to
£17 million for a five-year
contract.
Reportedly so, yes.
I'm overwhelmed that I've...
Is that anywhere near
accurate?
It's absolutely nowhere near
accurate.
Can you give us a more
accurate figure?
Of course not!
Thank you very much and good
afternoon, ladies and gentlemen.
Bowie's attitude to himself
bowie's attitude to himself
and his music seems to have
changed, and with that comes a
change of producer.
So out goes Tony Visconti, who
one associates with the more
sort of art for art's sake
period.
And in comes nile Rodgers.
He's just had that huge run of
hits with chic and
sister sledge.
He's gone on to produce
Diana Ross.
But it just doesn't seem like
what one would have expected
from the David bowie of the
'70s and the first part of the
'80s.
It seems somewhat
uncharacteristic.
When we met originally, it
when we met originally, it
was completely by chance, and
he was sitting alone, back of
this nightclub, and I spotted
him right away.
I walked in with Billy idol,
and Billy walked in and went,
"bloody hell, that's
David bow-ee!"
And when he said "bow-ee" --
'cause he called him bow-ee.
We called him Bo-ee.
And when he said "bow-ee," he
vomited.
He barfed after saying it.
It was, like, hysterical.
By that time, I was already
chatting him up.
Chatting him up.
Later, David said to me that he
wanted me to do what I did best.
So, when I asked David what he
thought I did best, he looked at
me and he says, "you make hits."
I was charged with the
responsibility of doing such.
So, one morning in Switzerland,
he walks into my bedroom.
And he says something to the
effect of, "nile, darling, I
think I have a song that feels
think I have a song that feels
like it's a hit."
And he comes in with this
12-string guitar that only has
six strings on it.
When you see a 12-string guitar,
you're in folk city right away.
Something like that.
So, when I started fooling
around with it, I made it very
jazzy, very cool, but bowie is
a jazzy, cool guy, unbeknownst
to most people.
But I certainly knew that.
So...
So...
[ Plays riff
[ from "let's dance" ]
It was cool.
And it was ultra-cool.
And it was pretty normal cool.
And...
But you put in the delays, and
all of a sudden you get groove
and funk and rhythm all at the
same time.
[ Introduction to "let's dance"
[ plays ]
♪ Let's dance ♪
It has an intention of being
danceable but I think, in terms
of Lyric, I've tried to keep it
simple as anything that I've
ever written before.
I'm trying to write in a more
obvious and positive manner
than I've written in a long
time.
♪ Let's dance ♪
♪ Put on your red shoes
and dance the blues ♪
♪ Let's dance ♪
♪ To the song
they're playing on the radio ♪
They're playing on the radio ♪
♪ Let's sway ♪
"Let's dance" is an
interesting song because it's
basically kind of a funk groove,
an old funk...
♪ Sway through the crowd
to an empty space ♪
And nile just knew how to put
that into place and then put the
hook line behind it, and in the
shortest amount of time, you had
the song.
"Let's dance" is not a
"let's dance" is not a
traditional, what I would call,
dance record, but it's certainly
a record that does make you want
to dance.
And I just thought to myself,
"man, if I don't make a record
that makes people want to dance,
and we call the song
"let's dance," I'm going to have
to trade in my black union card,
'cause that just doesn't make
sense.
♪ Tremble like a flower ♪
This is something that can be
played in every mall in America.
Played in every mall in America.
It's a mainstream record by an
artist who already has a
pedigree.
Mick Jagger tried to do his own
"let's dance" a couple of times.
Never worked.
McCartney dabbled.
A lot of those guys, they
dabbled 'cause that was what was
going on.
None of them made a record as
good as what bowie made.
♪ Under the moonlight,
the serious moonlight ♪
I've tried to produce something
I've tried to produce something
that's warmer and more
humanistic than anything that
I've done for a long time.
Less emphasis on the nihilistic
kind of statement and the icy,
one-dimensional kind of thing
that I've been working with over
the last few years.
So, we had cut "let's dance,"
and at the end of the day he
gives me a copy of "China girl"
and says that he thinks it's a
hit.
Hit.
So, I wanted it to have a hook.
I thought, "man, maybe I'll key
off the word 'China.'"
And I said to myself, "either
David is going to hate this so
much that he's gonna fire me, or
he's gonna get the comedic value
of writing a silly, little,
poppy thing."
But I have to admit, I was
but I have to admit, I was
nervous as hell, and I played it
for him, and David went, "I love
it."
♪ Uh-oh-oh-oh-oh ♪
♪ Little China girl ♪
♪ Uh-oh-oh-oh-oh ♪
♪ Little China girl ♪
♪ I could escape this feeling
with my China girl ♪
♪ I feel a wreck
♪ I feel a wreck
without my little China girl ♪
♪ I hear her heart beating
loud as thunder ♪
♪ Saw the stars crashing ♪
This is the '80s.
It's mtv explosion time.
And he had been a video
experimenter, but this record
put him right there in the
middle of mtv-ization and gave
middle of mtv-ization and gave
his career a whole other life.
♪ You know,
I'll give you television ♪
♪ I'll give you eyes of blue ♪
♪ I'll give you men
who want to rule the world ♪
♪ And when I get excited,
my little China girl ♪
David went from being, let's
say, a high-profile cult star
to mainstream.
To mainstream.
The look was more mainstream,
even though he had the really
bleachy blond hair and all the
suits and everything.
It was a lot different than that
thin white Duke ominous
character or Ziggy.
It was the most mainstream I'd
ever seen him.
Right.
Out of the clear blue sky, he
was taking boxing lessons, and,
like, he was beefy.
He was cleaner.
Don't take any notice of
them.
They're all perfectly harmless.
He was happier and jovial.
He was happier and jovial.
On your new album, you're
determined to be yourself.
How do we know this isn't
another one of your masks?
I don't know.
It's a bit like the boy who
cried wolf.
He was, "hey!"
You know.
I found it a little odd, in that
it was a very happy David.
Do you see the music going
back to basics from here on?
Tonight, I think it might be
tonight, I think it might be
very basic.
Ladies and gentleman, the
1983 "serious moonlight" tour!
David bowie!
♪ Introduction to "let's dance"
[ plays ]
♪ Let's dance ♪
♪ Put on your red shoes
and dance the blues ♪
♪ Let's dance ♪
♪ To the song
they're playing on the radio ♪
I think we're out of characters
now and just into suits, and the
suit will change from tour to
tour, but the bloke inside it is
generally much the same.
♪ Sway through the crowd
to an empty space ♪
To an empty space ♪
♪ And if you say run,
I'll run with you ♪
"Let's dance" hit so strongly
that everything changed.
We were thinking we were just
going to do a couple of indoor
theaters, indoor arenas through
Europe.
It just quickly turned around,
which was a surprise.
And you're just riding this big,
old train going, "all right,
everybody, hang on, here we go."
♪ Fame ♪
♪ Fame ♪
♪ Makes a man
♪ makes a man
take things over ♪
♪ Fame ♪
♪ Fame ♪
♪ Keeps him loose
and hard to swallow ♪
♪ Fame ♪
♪ Fame ♪
♪ Puts him there,
where things are hollow ♪
♪ Fame ♪
It was beyond belief to me.
Suddenly I wasn't a cult artist
anymore.
It really was a shocker, and
we were scurrying around because
we'd already started a tour.
And suddenly, like, we were
doing stadiums out of nowhere.
Gigs were being thrown out, and
stadiums were being put in.
Stadiums were being put in.
It was all by the shirttails,
the whole thing.
Then suddenly, "wow, I've just
had the biggest album I've
ever..."
It was extremely odd.
♪ Is it any wonder,
I reject you first? ♪
♪ Fame, fame, fame, fame ♪
♪ Is it any wonder,
you're far too cool to fool ♪
The "serious moonlight" tour
was him capturing the planet as
a whole.
A whole.
♪ Bully for you,
chilly for me ♪
♪ Got to get a rain check
on pain ♪
It was major at thapoint in
time, in '83.
Everyone -- we're talking about
China, in Korea, and everywhere
else in the world knew who
David bowie was because of that
"serious moonlight" tour, and
it's a peak level.
♪ Fame, fame, fame, fame,
fame, fame, fame, fame,
fame, fame, fame, fame,
fame, fame, fame, fame,
fame, fame, fame, fame,
fame, fame, fame, fame,
fame, fame ♪
♪ Fame ♪
There's some moment when the
audience comes to you, as
opposed to you going to them.
He made a record that was in
many senses an experimental
record for him that actually
worked on a pop level, and that
happens a lot for people.
Every artist, their core group
resents the fact that these
outsiders are in on our secret,
outsiders are in on our secret,
but that's the danger of making
a good record.
You never know who's going to
listen to it.
♪ Fame ♪
♪ Fame ♪
I allowed myself to be
pushed into the commercial arena
because I'd never been there,
and it was sort of, "ooh, what's
it like?"
But there it was, and I jumped
in with my future in my hands.
♪ Fame, fame, fame, fame,
fame, fame, fame ♪
♪ What's your name? ♪
People have this idea that he
sort of drifted off into the
stratosphere and, you know,
rumor and gossip starts, and
all of that.
In a sense, he's regained the
in a sense, he's regained the
mystery and distance which was
so powerful, a part of what made
him so exceptional in the 1970s.
Suddenly, we don't know who
David bowie is once again.
Even the current rather
cat-and-mouse game that bowie
has been playing from his
has been playing from his
seclusion is reminiscent of
warhol, the master of games,
pretending to be marginal, when,
in fact, he is the great puppet
master, controlling it all.
But then he comes back with
this record, "the next day," and
he doesn't do interviews.
So, we're back to the show-biz
adage of leave them wanting
more -- very David bowie thing
to do.
Happy hump day, Phil.
Ha!
I didn't get humped. You?
I didn't get humped. You?
Yeah.
Some people, huh, they just
get lost.
Well, it's more exciting than
anything we've got around here.
Well, I wouldn't say that.
We have a nice life.
We have a nice life.
♪ Pushing through
the market square ♪
♪ So many mothers sighing ♪
♪ News had just come over ♪
♪ We had five years left
to cry in ♪
♪ News guy wept
when he told us ♪
♪ Earth was really dying ♪
♪ Earth was really dying ♪
♪ Cried so much
that his face was wet ♪
♪ Knew he wasn't lying ♪
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