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SHATNER:
A network of tunnels called
the Empire of the Dead.
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A legion of clay warriors
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standing guard for eternity.
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And ancient rituals
that guide the soul
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into the afterlife.
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Throughout human history,
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cultures around the world
have created numerous ways
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of honoring those
who have passed away.
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From traditional burials
and cremations
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to the art of mummification,
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sacred rituals are used
to show reverence
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and respect for the dead.
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But what happens if these
practices are not followed?
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Is it possible that mishandling
the remains of the deceased
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can actually curse the living?
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Well, that is
what we'll try and find out.
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It's an inescapable truth
of human experience
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that we're all born,
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we all live and then, one day,
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we all eventually die.
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For many cultures, the proper
way to honor the deceased
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is to provide their body
with a permanent resting place
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by using the sacred practice
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of burial.
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ROBERT CARGILL:
65 million people
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die every year.
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And depending on where they die,
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depending on what they believe,
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different cultures,
different religions
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bury people in different ways.
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However, all of these burials,
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regardless of where they occur,
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have a few things in common.
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Perhaps the most important is
you don't mess with the dead.
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Whether you believe
in heaven and hell or not,
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whether you believe
in a God or not,
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there's something
about honoring the deceased
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that is common
throughout history.
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Our earliest burials
are about 100,000 years old.
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Probably some of the initial
reasons for burying the dead
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weren't about ritual or religion
but practicality.
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We find a lot of early humans
buried in caves--
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places where people
were actually living.
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So burying them was a way
to mark territory.
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"This is where my ancestors
are buried."
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JOSEPH LAYCOCK:
A lot of burial traditions
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revolve around the idea that
this is not just decaying flesh.
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This is a person. This is
someone whose life mattered.
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And this goes all the way back
to the Stone Age,
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where, basically,
cave people have been bound
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in the fetal position
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and buried with tools that
they would have used in life.
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So these traditions
are really as old as humankind.
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SHATNER:
Over the course of tens
of thousands of years,
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burial practices
started to reflect
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the principles
of organized religion.
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Ancient cultures
around the world believed
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that a proper burial
involved showing respect,
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not just for
a dead person's body
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but also for their soul.
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CARGILL:
In antiquity, there were
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very specific rites
that were used to help
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the deceased's soul navigate
its way into the afterlife.
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For instance, in ancient Egypt,
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there was the famous
Book of the Dead,
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which is essentially
a set of CliffsNotes
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that helps
the deceased's soul navigate
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this series of tests
and gates and booby traps
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that are set to try
to keep the soul
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from entering
into the afterlife.
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MARK DONNELLY:
The ancient Greeks
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believed that the spirit
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left the body
as a breath of air.
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And it was important
to get the body itself
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to the afterlife
as quickly as possible
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to reunite with the spirit.
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To that end, they were often
buried with a coin in the mouth
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as payment to Charon,
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the ferryman
over the River Styx,
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to aid them on their journey and
help them locate their spirit.
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SHATNER:
Although many ancient European
societies like the Greeks
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believed in burying the dead,
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oftentimes, they did not lay out
individual graves
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with nice, neat headstones
for each body,
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like we do today.
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KEITH EGGENER:
Historically speaking,
in Europe,
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people of all classes
were typically buried in
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mass graves.
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It was really only the people
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of the highest levels
of the aristocracy
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who would receive
any kind of individual burial
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and individual marker
of their death.
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However, eventually, as we enter
into the early modern age,
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the 1400, 1500s and forward,
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increasingly,
people want to be remembered.
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Permanent burial for individuals
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of even
the nonaristocratic classes
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becomes increasingly common,
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and we see
the rise of gravestones.
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SHATNER:
As individual graves became
more common for the masses,
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European and American
communities in the 19th century
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created new,
elaborate burial places
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that were located far away from
churches and residential areas.
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They were referred to
as garden cemeteries.
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DONNELLY:
Garden cemeteries are
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an interesting development.
They come in,
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at least
in the American context,
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in about the 1830s.
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They were a different place,
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a place outside of the city.
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They have their own necropolis
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that we can visit
through big elaborate gates.
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EGGENER:
These cemeteries,
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such as Mount Auburn
in Cambridge,
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Laurel Hill in Philadelphia,
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Greenwood in Brooklyn
and many others
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were much larger
than the church burial grounds.
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They were also landscaped
in a picturesque fashion,
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with winding paths and hills
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and all sorts
of varied plantings.
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So you're not thinking
of the oblivion of the grave
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but rather you're thinking
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of the departed
as resting peacefully,
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surrounded by beautiful flowers
and those who love them.
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Death became widely seen
as a gentle sleep.
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SHATNER:
Today, it is estimated
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that there are 144,000
cemeteries in the United States,
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in which over one million people
are buried every single year.
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Since the practice of burial
is thousands of years old,
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perhaps it's not surprising
that we have inherited
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a number of superstitions
about how this ritual
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should be performed.
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LAYCOCK:
There is a superstition of
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carrying the body out
of the house feetfirst.
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And the idea was that if you
carry the body out headfirst,
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the corpse gets
this backward glance,
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and that glance
could maybe invite someone
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to come with the deceased
into the afterlife.
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Another is you can't take
the body in the family car.
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You have to hire a hearse.
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The hearse can't stop
on the way to the cemetery.
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Because if it stops,
the house where it stops
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could perhaps get some
of that death energy.
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There's a superstition of having
pallbearers wear gloves.
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And this is the same logic--
that there could be
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some sort of lingering
death energy on the casket,
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and if you have gloves,
that will give you
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some protection from it.
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All people are driven to
ritualize the process of death.
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So when we think about what are
these rites and rituals
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doing for us,
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making sure that
certain rules are observed,
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gives us some element of control
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in a realm that is,
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by definition, uncontrollable.
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(singing)
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SHATNER:
Billions of people
all over the world believe
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that sacred rites and traditions
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are the proper way to prepare a
person's soul for the afterlife.
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But on the other hand,
throughout history,
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there have also been
customs that were intended
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not to benefit
the soul of the deceased
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but rather to harm it.
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These practices are referred to
as deviant burials.
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LAYCOCK:
The word "deviant burial"
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comes from archaeology.
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When archaeologists
look at dead people,
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if someone
has been buried in a way
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that is different
from everyone else,
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that's known
as a deviant burial.
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For example,
in this village in Poland,
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archaeologists discovered
about six buried corpses
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where there were sickles that
had been placed over the neck
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or over the pelvis,
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with the logic seeming to be,
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if this corpse tries to get up,
it will be cut with iron.
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And one possibility
is that these people
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did something really bad
while they were alive.
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They practiced
black magic or murder.
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And the idea is that if we can
basically mutilate their body,
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this will stop them from
entering into the afterlife.
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SHATNER:
It's unsettling to think
that desecrating human remains
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could doom a person's soul
in the afterlife.
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Which is why, for thousands
of years, people have gone
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to great lengths to prevent
such violations from happening.
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Like in the case
of a Chinese emperor
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whose royal tomb was protected
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by thousands of fierce
terra-cotta warriors.
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SHATNER:
Here in this rugged,
mountainous region
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bordering the Gobi Desert,
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two brothers begin digging
a well on their family farm.
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But instead of water,
their shovels reveal
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a life-sized statue
of a soldier.
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When archeologists
later excavate the site,
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they unearth thousands
of these sculptures
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known as
the terra-cotta warriors,
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each with remarkably
realistic facial expressions.
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Every now and then,
there's a game-changing moment
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in archaeological history.
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This is a discovery
of that magnitude
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because, as time went on,
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it became clear that this
wasn't just a few pots.
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It was actually
a vast underground army
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of 6,000 soldiers
standing to attention.
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SHATNER:
These incredibly
lifelike statues
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are actually part of a massive
underground tomb complex
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called the Mausoleum
of the First Qin Emperor.
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The mausoleum covers an area
of nearly four miles
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and contains numerous
underground palaces and chambers
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that surround a tomb mound
at the center of the complex.
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The tomb mound itself
is quite unassuming.
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It is sort of a pyramid-shaped,
but it's made of earth.
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And these days,
it's covered with trees,
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so it's all very green,
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but when it was
originally built,
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it would've supported
some large structures,
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some large temple structures.
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So, the tomb complex is far away
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from the place
where they'd discovered
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the terra-cotta warriors.
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And everyone
doesn't really understand,
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initially, how they can be
part of the same thing.
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The sheer size of the complex
is unprecedented.
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It's an amazing sight.
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The scope of this
is hard to describe.
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There's chariots.
There's horses.
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There's an entire labyrinthine
complex that exists,
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and all of it intentionally
kept underground
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in what is literally
an underworld.
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SHATNER:
This vast tomb complex was built
in the third century BC
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to be the final resting place
for Qin Shi Huang,
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the first emperor
of a unified China.
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Most of the ancient tombs
in China
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are statements of who you were.
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So, what you get with this tomb
is a huge statement
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of how important this man was.
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The amazing thing
about his reign
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is it only lasted 11 years,
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but in that time,
he completely transformed China
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by making it one unified whole.
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Even the name "China"
seems to derive
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from the name of his state, Qin.
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So this is a guy
who was unprecedented.
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He thought of himself
as the ruler of the known world.
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DOMINIC STEAVU:
As soon as he came to power,
he started building
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this tomb complex
as a way of transporting
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what he had acquired
and what he had accomplished
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in the living world
into the afterlife,
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into the world of immortals,
and that included
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material things, like treasures
and vast, untold riches.
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SHATNER:
The pyramid-shaped,
artificial mound at the center
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of the complex is 250 feet tall.
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Archaeologists believe
that underneath this mound
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is a chamber containing
Emperor Qin's tomb.
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According to
ancient Chinese writings,
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every detail of this chamber
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was designed to perfectly mirror
the emperor's kingdom.
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There's a very elaborate passage
that vividly describes
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how the tomb was designed
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from the Records
of the Grand Historian
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by Szuma Chien.
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The main feature was
a small scale representation
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of the Chinese empire
at the time,
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and so it had all the waterways
and the rivers and oceans
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and geographical features
that were duplicated
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on a small scale.
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There is this sense
in Chinese society,
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going right back to pre-history,
that, when people die,
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they kind of switch
to another plane of existence,
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and life goes on for them there.
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So, the coffin
of the first emperor
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sits in the center of a map
of the known world,
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and so then, the towns
are these little jewels
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and the roads are gold.
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And then above him,
you have a ceiling
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that has the constellations
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in the sky
because the constellations
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are supposedly reflected
by the world on the ground.
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So, you have heaven and Earth
and the emperor in the middle,
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and it's all picked out
in precious metals.
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SHATNER:
To date,
the central burial mound
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has only been
partially excavated
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because archaeologists
believe that,
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according to historical records,
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it may be too hazardous
to uncover.
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STEAVU:
According to
the grand historian,
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the tomb itself is highly
contaminated with mercury.
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The rivers and oceans
were represented
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by flowing mercury.
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And this mercury was fed
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through a very complex
drainage system
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and was mechanically activated
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so that it
permanently circulated.
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CLEMENTS:
In ancient China,
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mercury was also believed to be,
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one of the substances
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that could help somebody
achieve immortality.
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And it just so happens
that, since 1981,
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we've known that there are
very high concentrations
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of mercury in the soil
around the grave mound.
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STEAVU:
Because the soil around the tomb
has high levels of mercury,
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archaeologists are reticent
about opening up the tomb.
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There's a concern
they could expose
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the local populations
to mercury poisoning.
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And that it would lead
to a large amount
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of the artifacts being damaged
or lost irretrievably.
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SHATNER:
Will archaeologists
ever be able to safely open
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the tomb of
Emperor Qin Shi Huang?
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No one is certain.
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But there are those who believe
the emperor's body
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was never located
in the tomb's burial chamber
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in the first place.
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CLEMENTS:
In Chinese history books,
it says that the emperor
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was buried at Mount Li,
but it's not clear if that meant
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in the mountain or in
a grave mound near the mountain.
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And this is important
because, in the Middle Ages,
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there was a historian
who suggested that, actually,
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the emperor was buried in a
jade mine in a mountain nearby.
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So, it's very possible
that the tomb mound itself
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is a decoy.
That he's not there at all.
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And if they start digging there,
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they'll be digging
in the wrong place.
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One big hanging question
that we're still left with is,
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of course, what else is there?
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We've only uncovered
part of this tomb.
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So, much of it still
has not been revealed.
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And who knows if it
will ever be discovered.
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SHATNER:
More than two million people
live and work
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in this 41 square mile
metropolis.
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And although Paris
is one of the world's
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most instantly
recognizable cities,
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just below the surface
of the City of Light
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lurks a mysterious darkness.
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A centuries-old labyrinth
of tunnels that contains
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the bones of millions of bodies.
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The Paris Catacombs.
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JEREMIAH:
When you walk in there,
you will see bones stacked.
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They're everywhere.
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You'll have thigh bones
stacked up in places.
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You'll have skulls stacked
in other places.
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It's almost like
a warehouse of human bones.
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LACY:
We don't know which bone
goes with which.
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Sometimes, they're
just piled up, but sometimes
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it's almost a decoration,
where they put them.
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In some cases,
they're more architecturally
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or artistically placed.
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JONATHAN YOUNG:
There are,
lined along the walls,
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thousands of skeletons,
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some with bits of clothing
hanging off of them.
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It's a whole network
of tunnels, really.
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There's about a mile of it
that's open to visitors,
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and you can see
some of these places.
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SHATNER:
Over the main entrance
to the Paris Catacombs,
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there is carved a sign,
which, when translated reads,
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"Stop! This is the Empire
of the Dead."
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According to some estimates,
the Paris Catacombs
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hold the bones of more than
six million people.
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But why did Parisians
decide to stack
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all these bones together
in the first place?
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LACY:
In Paris,
you had people being buried
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in a traditional sense
in a graveyard,
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but those are finite locations.
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And they started
running out of space.
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So, if that is the case,
after a certain amount of time,
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individuals are gonna
get dug back up
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to create space for new burials,
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and you have to do something
with those bones.
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So, they started to
utilize catacombs as a way
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to relocate those bones.
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THOMPSON:
In the Parisian Catacombs,
very often,
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bones have been rearranged,
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made into even sculptural
sort of forms.
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In many ways,
this conflicts with that,
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Christian idea
of keeping the body together.
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PAUL KOUDOUNARIS:
The one thing most funeral
practices have in the world
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is some kind of respect
for one's ancestor
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or some kind of feeling
that this is one last act
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of charity that needs
to be completed
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for the soul
to move on properly.
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On the other hand,
the Paris Catacombs
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was not a sacred site.
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They were gonna get rid
of the old bones, and they don't
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want to have
this problem again.
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I would question whether the
Paris Catacombs are respectful
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to the dead or not.
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SHATNER:
Did the builders
of the Paris Catacombs
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desecrate the souls of the dead
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by moving their bones
from cemeteries
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to the dark tunnels
beneath the city?
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There are many
who believe the answer is yes.
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And there is
a local legend which says
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that moving the bones
of so many deceased people
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unleashed a dark
and malevolent force
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that still haunts the catacombs.
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And it is believed
that if you're there
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in the hours of darkness,
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after midnight,
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that you hear whispers coming
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from the spirits
of the skeletons
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drawing you deeper and deeper
and deeper into the catacombs,
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where you get so lost,
you will never get out.
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YOUNG:
The system of tunnels
is really elaborate.
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You can get turned around
down there and get lost.
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There's a legend
in the city of Paris
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that there was a doorman
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at a hospital
named Philibert Aspairt,
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and he went on an errand
down a staircase.
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One rumor is that he was going
to the wine cellar
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to get a certain cognac.
We don't know.
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But there are various points of
entry into the Paris Catacombs,
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and, apparently, he went
down the wrong staircase.
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And he got himself in there
and turned around and lost
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and never came out
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and died in there.
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And they didn't find his body
for 11 years.
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So they buried him right there
in 1804.
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KOUDOUNARIS:
The Paris Catacombs really
were designed to be a spectacle
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and a tourist attraction.
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You know, they were not designed
to have a sacred function.
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You didn't go down in there
and pray.
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They designed it to be
a famous macabre site.
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And the whole point of it was,
like, you know,
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you look in this room
and you cannot tell
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a king from a pauper.
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You cannot tell
the wise man from the fool.
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Death is this great leveler.
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Understanding
that aspect of death
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is an incentive to live right.
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Did the relocation
of millions of human skeletons
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into the Paris Catacombs
unleash a sinister curse?
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It's a chilling thought.
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But perhaps what's
even more bizarre
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is the fate
of many Catholic saints
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whose bodies
have been miraculously preserved
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for all eternity.
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SHATNER: Cologne, Germany.
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Near the center
of this ancient city
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rise the soaring twin spires
of the Cologne Cathedral.
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Every day,
more than 20,000 people flock
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through its arched doors
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to visit one of Catholicism's
most important sites:
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the Tomb of the Three Kings.
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Those who pray
at this ancient shrine believe
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that they will be
divinely favored,
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because it contains the bones
of the three biblical wise men
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who visited Jesus
shortly after his birth
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and whom the Catholic Church
considers to be saints.
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JEREMIAH:
After death,
a lot of the so-called saints
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in Catholic Christianity--
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their body parts
were distributed.
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And the reason for that
was there was this idea
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that they were
a source of divine power
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that could affect people,
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that could affect miracles.
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SHATNER:
For the faithful,
being in the presence
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of even a tiny portion
of a holy figure's body
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is a powerful reminder
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of God's promise
of eternal life in heaven.
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So, imagine how they must feel
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when in the presence of not
merely the body parts of a saint
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but the entire body of one,
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like in the case of the remains
of St. Bernadette of Lourdes,
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which lie perfectly preserved
in a chapel in France
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more than a century
after her death.
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ELIZABETH HARPER:
St. Bernadette
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was born in France in 1844,
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and she saw an apparition
of the Virgin Mary 18 times.
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And it started when she was 14.
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The spring that St. Bernadette
saw the Virgin Mary
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is now a point of healing
for many people,
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and many people go to Lourdes
just to obtain the water.
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JEREMIAH:
St. Bernadette ended up dying
in 1879 of tuberculosis,
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and the Church decided
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that her claim that she visited
with the Virgin Mary
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in Lourdes, France,
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was trustworthy
and decided to make her a saint.
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And as such,
they had to remove her body
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from the current tomb,
identify it
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and then relocate it closer
to the church.
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And when they were doing that,
they found out
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that she was in a perfect state
of preservation.
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She looked
as though she was still alive.
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SHATNER:
To this day, St. Bernadette
appears as youthful in death
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as she did in life.
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Could it be possible that
St. Bernadette's lack of decay
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is actually the result
of divine intervention?
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An incorruptible saint
symbolizes
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that God has blessed
that particular saintly person
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so that their body that so many
people have loved in life
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is still recognizable
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and becomes a focus
for devotion.
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SHATNER:
Despite the symbolic miracle
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such incorruptible bodies
represent for the faithful,
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according to many researchers,
497
00:27:43,542 --> 00:27:45,708
there's nothing miraculous
about them.
498
00:27:46,708 --> 00:27:49,667
JEREMIAH: A lot of
the so-called incorruptibles--
499
00:27:49,875 --> 00:27:53,250
they were blatantly mummified.
500
00:27:53,375 --> 00:27:58,083
St. Bernadette was enclosed in
two hermetically sealed caskets.
501
00:27:58,208 --> 00:28:01,417
Once it's exposed to air,
she started to decay.
502
00:28:01,583 --> 00:28:04,875
So they covered her face
and hands with wax.
503
00:28:05,833 --> 00:28:09,375
SHATNER:
To the millions of faithful
who visit the small chapel
504
00:28:09,542 --> 00:28:11,875
where St. Bernadette's body
now lies,
505
00:28:12,042 --> 00:28:16,292
her uncanny appearance remains
proof of the power of faith.
506
00:28:16,500 --> 00:28:19,458
Unlike another
incorruptible mummy,
507
00:28:19,625 --> 00:28:21,500
which many consider
to be evidence
508
00:28:21,708 --> 00:28:23,167
of a much different power:
509
00:28:23,375 --> 00:28:26,375
the power of the state.
510
00:28:35,792 --> 00:28:37,833
More than one million mourners
stand for hours
511
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:39,667
in below-freezing temperatures
512
00:28:39,833 --> 00:28:42,333
to pay their final respects
to Vladimir Lenin,
513
00:28:42,542 --> 00:28:46,125
the Bolshevik leader who ushered
in the Communist Revolution.
514
00:28:47,083 --> 00:28:49,167
ALEXEI YURCHAK:
When Lenin died in 1924,
515
00:28:49,333 --> 00:28:52,500
he was associated in the minds
of millions of people--
516
00:28:52,708 --> 00:28:54,833
not everyone, but the majority--
517
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:58,375
with a radical transformation
of human history.
518
00:29:00,250 --> 00:29:03,500
Lenin and the...
especially his family
519
00:29:03,708 --> 00:29:05,167
wanted him to be buried.
520
00:29:05,375 --> 00:29:08,833
But Stalin decided
to create a symbolism
521
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:13,042
of an utopia that was created.
522
00:29:13,208 --> 00:29:16,167
So, the idea was
to keep him preserved
523
00:29:16,333 --> 00:29:18,292
for future generations.
524
00:29:18,417 --> 00:29:22,167
SHATNER:
According to reports,
Soviet scientists devised
525
00:29:22,250 --> 00:29:25,667
an entirely new method
for creating Lenin's mummy,
526
00:29:25,875 --> 00:29:28,833
one intended to preserve
his body for eternity,
527
00:29:29,042 --> 00:29:31,750
as though he were frozen
in time.
528
00:29:32,708 --> 00:29:33,750
YURCHAK:
It had to be
529
00:29:33,917 --> 00:29:35,708
the exact likeness of Lenin.
530
00:29:35,875 --> 00:29:37,875
It also had to feel like Lenin.
531
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:39,917
The so-called presence
had to be there.
532
00:29:40,917 --> 00:29:42,500
SHATNER:
Almost a hundred years later,
533
00:29:42,667 --> 00:29:44,833
Lenin's mummy
still remains on display
534
00:29:45,042 --> 00:29:47,917
in his mausoleum
near Red Square in Moscow.
535
00:29:48,083 --> 00:29:50,542
And it appears as though
his body hasn't decayed
536
00:29:50,667 --> 00:29:52,333
in the slightest.
537
00:29:53,750 --> 00:29:55,792
Every few months,
they give him a recharge.
538
00:29:55,917 --> 00:29:58,667
You know, they hydrate him
a little bit.
539
00:29:58,875 --> 00:30:01,583
They put fake eyelashes on him.
540
00:30:01,750 --> 00:30:05,667
As the art
of mummification advances,
541
00:30:05,875 --> 00:30:08,125
so, too, does Lenin's.
542
00:30:08,250 --> 00:30:10,708
He's looking better every year.
543
00:30:10,875 --> 00:30:12,542
STONEHILL:
For many people,
544
00:30:12,708 --> 00:30:15,667
it was more just a mere body
that was being preserved.
545
00:30:15,875 --> 00:30:17,667
It was the spirit of the era.
546
00:30:17,833 --> 00:30:20,833
And Stalin was gone.
Khrushchev was gone.
547
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:22,833
But Lenin was always there.
548
00:30:22,958 --> 00:30:24,833
SHATNER:
Can preserving
the remains of the dead
549
00:30:24,917 --> 00:30:28,583
actually keep their spirit
alive forever?
550
00:30:28,708 --> 00:30:30,000
Mm, perhaps.
551
00:30:30,208 --> 00:30:32,500
But there are those who believe
552
00:30:32,667 --> 00:30:34,792
that the soul
is not only immortal
553
00:30:34,958 --> 00:30:38,208
but can also be reborn
554
00:30:38,375 --> 00:30:40,250
in a new body.
555
00:30:49,792 --> 00:30:53,708
SHATNER:
Three-year-old Dorothy Eady
takes a traumatic tumble
556
00:30:53,875 --> 00:30:56,333
down the stairs
of her family's home.
557
00:30:58,125 --> 00:31:00,917
Her injuries, while serious,
are not life-threatening,
558
00:31:01,042 --> 00:31:04,125
but they are life-changing.
559
00:31:05,167 --> 00:31:07,292
Because in the years
after her accident,
560
00:31:07,458 --> 00:31:10,125
Dorothy Eady
begins recalling memories
561
00:31:10,292 --> 00:31:13,750
from what she claims
to be a past life.
562
00:31:14,750 --> 00:31:17,625
CHRISTINE SIMMONDS-MOORE:
The story goes
that she fell down the stairs,
563
00:31:17,792 --> 00:31:21,292
had a head trauma and actually
died and then returned to life.
564
00:31:21,375 --> 00:31:23,958
And then, when she
came back to life
565
00:31:24,125 --> 00:31:26,000
after hitting her head,
566
00:31:26,167 --> 00:31:29,500
she had later experiences
where she seemed to know things
567
00:31:29,667 --> 00:31:31,250
about ancient Egypt
568
00:31:31,375 --> 00:31:35,125
that she really
should not have known.
569
00:31:35,208 --> 00:31:38,000
RAMY ROMANY:
Her Dad would take her
to the British Museum,
570
00:31:38,125 --> 00:31:42,917
and when she went there,
she saw images and artifacts
571
00:31:43,083 --> 00:31:45,917
from the New Kingdom of Egypt
572
00:31:46,042 --> 00:31:49,333
and said, "This is home."
573
00:31:49,542 --> 00:31:53,875
And she became obsessed
with ancient Egypt.
574
00:31:54,042 --> 00:31:55,458
McGOWAN:
Dorothy Eady was able
575
00:31:55,625 --> 00:31:57,000
to read some hieroglyphs
576
00:31:57,208 --> 00:31:58,792
from the time that
she was ten years old,
577
00:31:58,958 --> 00:32:01,625
and from the time
that she was a teenager,
578
00:32:01,792 --> 00:32:04,042
she was essentially writing
579
00:32:04,208 --> 00:32:06,542
in a type
of hieroglyphic script.
580
00:32:06,708 --> 00:32:08,333
ROMANY:
Then, as she got older,
581
00:32:08,542 --> 00:32:12,875
she claimed to have
been reincarnated
582
00:32:13,042 --> 00:32:16,792
from a priestess
in ancient Egypt
583
00:32:16,958 --> 00:32:19,000
that was in a relationship
584
00:32:19,167 --> 00:32:21,583
with King Seti I,
585
00:32:21,708 --> 00:32:23,500
the builder
of the Temple of Abydos.
586
00:32:23,667 --> 00:32:26,958
SHATNER:
Dorothy Eady's claims
of a past life
587
00:32:27,125 --> 00:32:29,000
may seem far-fetched,
588
00:32:29,125 --> 00:32:31,333
but the truth is
that many cultures
589
00:32:31,458 --> 00:32:34,083
believe that our souls
are immortal
590
00:32:34,292 --> 00:32:37,333
and can be reborn
again and again,
591
00:32:37,500 --> 00:32:42,542
leaping into new bodies
each time we die.
592
00:32:42,708 --> 00:32:48,333
But could such an incredible
notion actually be possible?
593
00:32:48,542 --> 00:32:50,208
AMIR HUSSAIN:
So, reincarnation,
594
00:32:50,375 --> 00:32:54,167
literally, is this idea
that we may live multiple lives.
595
00:32:54,333 --> 00:32:56,667
We don't just live one life,
we live a life,
596
00:32:56,833 --> 00:32:58,708
we die and we're reborn.
597
00:32:58,875 --> 00:33:01,292
We're reborn back
into a physical body.
598
00:33:02,375 --> 00:33:04,042
For example,
Tibetan Buddhists believe
599
00:33:04,208 --> 00:33:07,292
the Dalai Lama
is a reincarnation
600
00:33:07,500 --> 00:33:10,875
of Avalokiteshvara,
the goddess of compassion.
601
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,125
And when the previous
Dalai Lama dies,
602
00:33:13,333 --> 00:33:16,083
they look for a boy
born with certain signs.
603
00:33:16,292 --> 00:33:18,292
And so, there's a great story
604
00:33:18,458 --> 00:33:22,000
about the modern Dalai Lama,
that, as a young child,
605
00:33:22,208 --> 00:33:25,042
he is brought into
the monastery
606
00:33:25,208 --> 00:33:27,417
and he points
to a bookcase, says,
607
00:33:27,542 --> 00:33:29,125
"My teeth are in there,
my teeth are in there,"
608
00:33:29,292 --> 00:33:30,583
and they open it up and
of course, it's the teeth
609
00:33:30,750 --> 00:33:31,875
of the previous Dalai Lama.
610
00:33:32,042 --> 00:33:34,125
And so, you do have people
611
00:33:34,250 --> 00:33:37,208
who have that sense of awareness
612
00:33:37,375 --> 00:33:39,750
of something that's
happened in the past,
613
00:33:39,917 --> 00:33:41,667
they've lived a past life.
614
00:33:41,875 --> 00:33:45,750
ARIEL BAR TZADOK:
The Kabbalah teaches
that human souls
615
00:33:45,917 --> 00:33:48,667
have a purpose
as ordained by God,
616
00:33:48,875 --> 00:33:51,333
to learn while here on Earth.
617
00:33:51,542 --> 00:33:56,958
And sometimes,
a single lifetime is not enough
618
00:33:57,125 --> 00:33:59,167
to fulfill the mission
and the cause
619
00:33:59,375 --> 00:34:03,500
for which God has ordained
that we be born here on Earth.
620
00:34:03,583 --> 00:34:08,042
And therefore,
souls will come back.
621
00:34:09,292 --> 00:34:11,458
SIMMONDS-MOORE:
A lot of people who have
622
00:34:11,583 --> 00:34:15,333
past-life cases
tend to be connected to trauma,
623
00:34:15,458 --> 00:34:17,500
and I think that was the case
with Dorothy.
624
00:34:17,667 --> 00:34:21,375
It could be something to do
with her own head trauma.
625
00:34:23,167 --> 00:34:25,958
There's been a lot of research
that tries to say
626
00:34:26,083 --> 00:34:27,875
there is a soul
that gets reincarnated,
627
00:34:28,042 --> 00:34:30,833
but I think we can't really know
628
00:34:30,958 --> 00:34:33,000
exactly what's happening
629
00:34:33,167 --> 00:34:35,292
when people are having
these memories.
630
00:34:35,458 --> 00:34:37,667
SHATNER:
In the case of Dorothy Eady,
631
00:34:37,833 --> 00:34:40,833
her accurate recollections
of life in ancient Egypt
632
00:34:41,042 --> 00:34:42,500
were astounding.
633
00:34:42,708 --> 00:34:45,167
At the age of 29,
Dorothy moved to Egypt,
634
00:34:45,333 --> 00:34:50,333
married and gave birth
to a son who she named Sety,
635
00:34:50,458 --> 00:34:53,917
to reflect her connection
with the ancient pharaoh.
636
00:34:54,042 --> 00:34:59,583
She would eventually be called
Omm Sety, or Mother of Sety.
637
00:34:59,750 --> 00:35:01,125
While not formally trained,
638
00:35:01,208 --> 00:35:03,958
Dorothy became
a well-respected colleague
639
00:35:04,083 --> 00:35:07,000
of many of the world's
foremost Egyptologist,
640
00:35:07,167 --> 00:35:10,083
spending 50 years
working as a draftswoman,
641
00:35:10,250 --> 00:35:13,208
writer and unconventional
historian.
642
00:35:13,417 --> 00:35:15,833
After spending time
with Omm Sety,
643
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:20,667
many experts began to believe
that her incredible stories
644
00:35:20,833 --> 00:35:23,792
might actually be true.
645
00:35:23,958 --> 00:35:26,500
Omm Sety in this lifetime
had extraordinary knowledge
646
00:35:26,667 --> 00:35:29,667
and memory of the workings
of the Abydos Temple,
647
00:35:29,833 --> 00:35:31,625
and the artwork within.
648
00:35:33,500 --> 00:35:36,042
The Temple of Abydos
was the holy of holies
649
00:35:36,208 --> 00:35:37,208
for the Egyptian people.
650
00:35:37,375 --> 00:35:39,250
Omm Sety's arrival in Abydos
651
00:35:39,417 --> 00:35:42,875
was stunning
for everyone involved
652
00:35:43,042 --> 00:35:45,333
because, as an English woman
653
00:35:45,500 --> 00:35:47,333
walking into the temple
for the first time,
654
00:35:47,500 --> 00:35:50,042
she knew exactly
where everything was.
655
00:35:50,208 --> 00:35:53,958
She immediately knew
how to find certain chambers.
656
00:35:54,125 --> 00:35:55,417
She was able to even interpret
657
00:35:55,583 --> 00:35:58,125
some of the hieroglyphs
in the dark.
658
00:35:58,250 --> 00:36:00,375
ROMANY:
The head Egyptologist
659
00:36:00,542 --> 00:36:02,667
took her to a place
in the temple where he knew
660
00:36:02,833 --> 00:36:05,958
she wouldn't know the answers to
because it wasn't published yet.
661
00:36:06,125 --> 00:36:09,167
He himself was the one
that translated
662
00:36:09,333 --> 00:36:11,208
every part of it,
took him months.
663
00:36:11,375 --> 00:36:14,667
But if Omm Sety is truly
664
00:36:14,833 --> 00:36:18,875
a reincarnated priestess
of Egypt, then she would know.
665
00:36:19,042 --> 00:36:22,167
And she knew
every part of that wall.
666
00:36:23,833 --> 00:36:25,333
So, either she was really good
667
00:36:25,500 --> 00:36:30,000
at ancient Egyptian hieroglyphs
or she truly was
668
00:36:30,125 --> 00:36:32,417
a reincarnated
ancient Egyptian priestess.
669
00:36:34,208 --> 00:36:37,250
McGOWAN:
Omm Sety became one of the most
important Egyptologists,
670
00:36:37,458 --> 00:36:39,167
one of the most
important translators
671
00:36:39,375 --> 00:36:40,667
of hieroglyphs in the world,
672
00:36:40,833 --> 00:36:44,000
and she didn't have
a formal education.
673
00:36:44,167 --> 00:36:46,500
The story of Dorothy Eady
is arguably
674
00:36:46,625 --> 00:36:49,500
the single most convincing
account of reincarnation
675
00:36:49,625 --> 00:36:51,333
that we have
anywhere in history.
676
00:36:51,500 --> 00:36:52,667
SHATNER:
There are many who believe
677
00:36:52,833 --> 00:36:55,083
that Dorothy Eady's story
proves that
678
00:36:55,250 --> 00:36:59,000
reincarnation is, in fact, real.
679
00:36:59,208 --> 00:37:03,250
But if our souls
are really born again
680
00:37:03,417 --> 00:37:06,417
into new bodies after we die,
681
00:37:06,583 --> 00:37:12,417
why do only some of us recall
memories from our past lives?
682
00:37:12,625 --> 00:37:14,875
SIMMONDS-MOORE:
If you look at
the past-life research,
683
00:37:15,042 --> 00:37:18,292
and you look at the cases that
seem a bit more intriguing,
684
00:37:18,500 --> 00:37:21,167
i.e., they seem to be
providing stronger evidence
685
00:37:21,375 --> 00:37:22,833
for something anomalous
going on,
686
00:37:23,042 --> 00:37:27,500
what we see is that
it's people who died suddenly.
687
00:37:27,625 --> 00:37:30,583
It aligns with the idea
of unfinished business.
688
00:37:30,750 --> 00:37:35,583
ROMANY:
Even though Egyptians
do not believe in reincarnation,
689
00:37:35,750 --> 00:37:39,667
the ones around Omm Sety
would decide to actually believe
690
00:37:39,833 --> 00:37:41,583
that Omm Sety's story--
691
00:37:41,750 --> 00:37:44,500
it's a little bit
too much for coincidence.
692
00:37:54,375 --> 00:37:57,750
SHATNER:
The South Korean government
passes a controversial law
693
00:37:57,917 --> 00:38:02,917
declaring that people can
remain buried for only 60 years.
694
00:38:03,083 --> 00:38:04,583
After 60 years,
695
00:38:04,750 --> 00:38:07,333
their body must be exhumed
and disposed of
696
00:38:07,542 --> 00:38:10,583
in an environmentally
friendly manner.
697
00:38:10,708 --> 00:38:13,000
The idea of so-called
temporary burials
698
00:38:13,125 --> 00:38:15,625
may sound shocking,
but the fact is,
699
00:38:15,792 --> 00:38:18,875
graveyard space
has been dwindling
700
00:38:19,083 --> 00:38:22,167
all around the world
for decades.
701
00:38:22,375 --> 00:38:24,250
EGGENER:
Today, in most countries
702
00:38:24,417 --> 00:38:27,000
in the world where burial
is still practiced,
703
00:38:27,208 --> 00:38:30,083
people are buried
for a temporary period.
704
00:38:30,250 --> 00:38:33,417
You, in effect,
lease a grave site,
705
00:38:33,583 --> 00:38:35,750
and then eventually,
your remains are removed.
706
00:38:35,917 --> 00:38:39,833
This is, in large part,
a response to the fact
707
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:41,875
that there's a lot
of people on Earth,
708
00:38:42,042 --> 00:38:43,500
over seven billion now,
709
00:38:43,667 --> 00:38:46,875
and we're still dying,
as we always have.
710
00:38:47,042 --> 00:38:48,667
Eventually, we run out of land
711
00:38:48,833 --> 00:38:50,917
and there's no more space
for burial.
712
00:38:51,125 --> 00:38:55,417
And so, burial is becoming
less and less common.
713
00:38:55,542 --> 00:38:57,875
Cremation has become
more and more popular
714
00:38:58,042 --> 00:39:00,167
in many parts of the world.
715
00:39:00,333 --> 00:39:03,333
SHATNER:
In the last 65 years,
716
00:39:03,417 --> 00:39:06,375
cremations have risen
in the United States
717
00:39:06,542 --> 00:39:08,833
by over 1,000%.
718
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,833
In fact, since 2015,
more than half of all Americans
719
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:15,583
who passed away chose
to have their remains cremated.
720
00:39:15,750 --> 00:39:17,875
And many people
are experimenting
721
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:22,750
with new ways
to handle their ashes.
722
00:39:22,917 --> 00:39:23,958
CARGILL:
In the past,
723
00:39:24,125 --> 00:39:25,208
when someone was cremated,
724
00:39:25,375 --> 00:39:27,708
you put all of the ashes
in the urn.
725
00:39:27,875 --> 00:39:33,333
And yet, today, there are
all kinds of alternatives.
726
00:39:33,542 --> 00:39:36,000
People want to have
their ashes spread
727
00:39:36,208 --> 00:39:37,958
at all their favorite places.
728
00:39:38,167 --> 00:39:39,792
So, the body is spread out.
729
00:39:39,917 --> 00:39:43,167
LAYCOCK:
More recently,
as far as what people can do
730
00:39:43,333 --> 00:39:45,417
with those cremains,
731
00:39:45,542 --> 00:39:48,958
you can have your ashes
turned into a-a diamond.
732
00:39:49,125 --> 00:39:51,833
In Korea there is a company
that turns your cremains
733
00:39:52,042 --> 00:39:57,333
into a jar of pellets
that look a bit like caviar.
734
00:39:57,500 --> 00:39:59,167
There have been people
having their ashes mixed
735
00:39:59,333 --> 00:40:01,208
with concrete
and dumped in the ocean
736
00:40:01,375 --> 00:40:04,125
where they can become
part of a coral reef.
737
00:40:04,292 --> 00:40:08,750
There are so many things
that you can do with cremains.
738
00:40:08,875 --> 00:40:12,542
One of the strangest things
that I've seen
739
00:40:12,708 --> 00:40:17,667
in my career
as an embalmer and mortician
740
00:40:17,792 --> 00:40:20,792
is I did have someone request
741
00:40:20,958 --> 00:40:25,917
that I put their loved one's
cremated remains
742
00:40:26,083 --> 00:40:30,917
into buckshot, like shells,
and they wanted to be shot.
743
00:40:31,083 --> 00:40:33,750
SHATNER:
Being shot from a gun
certainly makes the notion
744
00:40:33,917 --> 00:40:37,500
of a traditional burial
feel rather mundane.
745
00:40:37,625 --> 00:40:39,667
However, one thing
most experts agree on is that,
746
00:40:39,833 --> 00:40:43,917
in the final analysis,
it ultimately doesn't matter
747
00:40:44,042 --> 00:40:47,208
how we say farewell
to a person and their remains.
748
00:40:47,375 --> 00:40:50,583
Rather, it's what we say
749
00:40:50,750 --> 00:40:54,000
that is
of far greater importance.
750
00:40:54,208 --> 00:40:57,542
These are moments that would
happen biologically,
751
00:40:57,667 --> 00:40:59,958
without human interference,
752
00:41:00,167 --> 00:41:04,667
but we cluster our rituals
and our beliefs around them.
753
00:41:04,833 --> 00:41:07,542
And following these guidelines
754
00:41:07,708 --> 00:41:10,083
tells us
one very important thing:
755
00:41:10,208 --> 00:41:11,917
this person's still here.
756
00:41:12,042 --> 00:41:14,958
If they weren't still here,
if some element of them--
757
00:41:15,125 --> 00:41:17,458
their soul, their spirit--
weren't still here,
758
00:41:17,625 --> 00:41:19,292
we wouldn't need
to do these things.
759
00:41:19,458 --> 00:41:22,958
So, the fact that we do them
helps remind us
760
00:41:23,125 --> 00:41:26,917
that there's still something
of that person.
761
00:41:27,042 --> 00:41:31,375
It's an inescapable fact
that everything that lives
762
00:41:31,542 --> 00:41:34,000
must also, eventually, die.
763
00:41:34,167 --> 00:41:36,500
And whether or not
you believe in the soul,
764
00:41:36,708 --> 00:41:38,625
the afterlife
or even reincarnation,
765
00:41:38,792 --> 00:41:42,167
the mystery of what happens
to us after death
766
00:41:42,333 --> 00:41:45,417
remains endlessly fascinating.
767
00:41:45,583 --> 00:41:47,667
But of course,
the frustrating truth
768
00:41:47,833 --> 00:41:50,417
is that until our time comes,
769
00:41:50,542 --> 00:41:52,375
the answers
to all of our questions
770
00:41:52,500 --> 00:41:56,542
about what lies
in the great beyond
771
00:41:56,750 --> 00:42:01,375
will continue to be unexplained.
772
00:42:01,542 --> 00:42:03,875
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