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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,875 --> 00:00:04,208 WILLIAM SHATNER: A man-made lake with a deadly reputation. 2 00:00:04,375 --> 00:00:06,792 A remote mountaintop summit 3 00:00:06,958 --> 00:00:09,583 with a chilling past. 4 00:00:09,792 --> 00:00:11,500 And an eerie hotel 5 00:00:11,708 --> 00:00:13,667 where evil... 6 00:00:13,833 --> 00:00:15,500 is said to reside. 7 00:00:15,708 --> 00:00:17,458 (woman screams) 8 00:00:17,667 --> 00:00:19,083 Did you ever have the feeling 9 00:00:19,208 --> 00:00:23,833 that a dark energy is lurking close by? 10 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:25,792 Or that you were actually confronted 11 00:00:25,958 --> 00:00:28,375 by an unearthly presence? 12 00:00:28,542 --> 00:00:29,583 Could it be possible 13 00:00:29,708 --> 00:00:32,958 that sinister entities are hiding all around us 14 00:00:33,167 --> 00:00:36,750 at so-called "cursed places," 15 00:00:36,875 --> 00:00:38,833 lying in wait 16 00:00:39,042 --> 00:00:41,250 to possess our very soul? 17 00:00:42,583 --> 00:00:44,917 If this is true, how can we protect ourselves 18 00:00:45,042 --> 00:00:47,875 when encountering evil? 19 00:00:48,042 --> 00:00:50,792 Well, that is what we'll try and find out. 20 00:00:50,958 --> 00:00:53,125 ♪ ♪ 21 00:01:09,083 --> 00:01:12,792 Deep within this mountain range lies Lake Lanier. 22 00:01:12,917 --> 00:01:16,417 Millions of people venture to this popular vacation spot 23 00:01:16,583 --> 00:01:18,625 to relax and unwind, 24 00:01:18,792 --> 00:01:21,292 despite the fact that every year, 25 00:01:21,375 --> 00:01:24,250 a shocking number of people drown 26 00:01:24,417 --> 00:01:26,458 within its placid waters. 27 00:01:27,667 --> 00:01:30,125 And many of their bodies 28 00:01:30,208 --> 00:01:31,958 are never seen again. 29 00:01:32,125 --> 00:01:33,333 LISA RUSSELL: If you live anywhere 30 00:01:33,500 --> 00:01:35,125 near Lake Lanier in North Georgia, 31 00:01:35,208 --> 00:01:38,333 you're gonna hear every summer all of the deaths. 32 00:01:39,333 --> 00:01:41,083 There are bad boating accidents. 33 00:01:41,250 --> 00:01:43,333 And when somebody goes overboard, 34 00:01:43,542 --> 00:01:46,542 it's almost impossible to find them before they drown. 35 00:01:47,583 --> 00:01:51,625 BUCK BUCHANAN: Lake Lanier, from the surface, looks clear. 36 00:01:51,792 --> 00:01:54,167 But we hear time and time again 37 00:01:54,333 --> 00:01:56,083 when we respond to these drownings. 38 00:01:56,292 --> 00:01:58,167 People will say that, "He didn't go into the water, come up, 39 00:01:58,333 --> 00:02:00,333 "struggle and drown. 40 00:02:00,417 --> 00:02:03,042 He went in and never came back up." 41 00:02:03,208 --> 00:02:06,167 And this happens time and time again. 42 00:02:06,333 --> 00:02:09,833 This lake seems to take people 43 00:02:10,042 --> 00:02:12,167 in one gulp. 44 00:02:13,500 --> 00:02:17,250 MITCH HOROWITZ: Lake Lanier is 26 miles long, 45 00:02:17,417 --> 00:02:21,083 it has 700 miles of shorefront. 46 00:02:21,250 --> 00:02:23,167 And it's tempting 47 00:02:23,333 --> 00:02:26,125 to attribute the inordinate number of fatalities 48 00:02:26,333 --> 00:02:28,458 to the size of the lake. 49 00:02:28,583 --> 00:02:30,167 But the fact is 50 00:02:30,375 --> 00:02:32,958 there are lakes of commensurate size 51 00:02:33,125 --> 00:02:35,167 in Northern Georgia 52 00:02:35,375 --> 00:02:39,542 that don't have half that number of fatalities or accidents. 53 00:02:39,667 --> 00:02:44,042 So, clearly, there is something about Lake Lanier 54 00:02:44,208 --> 00:02:45,875 that is cause for alarm. 55 00:02:47,083 --> 00:02:48,708 SHATNER: Since the 1950s, it is estimated 56 00:02:48,917 --> 00:02:54,167 that more than 600 people have lost their lives in Lake Lanier. 57 00:02:54,333 --> 00:02:56,917 It is such a staggering number of fatalities 58 00:02:57,042 --> 00:02:58,833 that, for decades, 59 00:02:58,958 --> 00:03:03,125 many have come to believe that these waters may be cursed. 60 00:03:04,875 --> 00:03:06,500 RUSSELL: Even though there's a lot of people around, 61 00:03:06,667 --> 00:03:10,000 there is just some strange vibe about the lake. 62 00:03:10,167 --> 00:03:12,917 I feel it's a majestic body of water, 63 00:03:13,083 --> 00:03:17,292 but you can't deny that there's something odd about Lake Lanier. 64 00:03:18,458 --> 00:03:21,000 BUCHANAN: When you actually get into Lanier, 65 00:03:21,208 --> 00:03:23,833 you get a feeling that you're not alone 66 00:03:24,042 --> 00:03:25,875 when you should be alone. 67 00:03:26,083 --> 00:03:27,500 I don't feel like 68 00:03:27,667 --> 00:03:29,583 someone's reaching out to grab me, 69 00:03:29,708 --> 00:03:32,708 but the water feels thicker than it should. 70 00:03:32,917 --> 00:03:34,792 And what I mean by that is 71 00:03:34,917 --> 00:03:37,458 a lady fell out of a boat, and we actually witnessed it. 72 00:03:37,583 --> 00:03:40,417 And we ran over there and pulled her out of the water 73 00:03:40,583 --> 00:03:42,167 and she was very upset and she said, "I'm so embarrassed." 74 00:03:42,375 --> 00:03:44,292 And I said, "Don't worry. 75 00:03:44,458 --> 00:03:46,167 We see people do this all the time." 76 00:03:46,333 --> 00:03:47,750 And she said, "No, you don't understand. 77 00:03:47,917 --> 00:03:49,917 I'm a lifeguard." 78 00:03:50,083 --> 00:03:51,750 And she said just when she found herself 79 00:03:51,875 --> 00:03:54,083 in that water, it was just like molasses. 80 00:03:54,250 --> 00:03:57,250 So all the things that we see in this lake, 81 00:03:57,458 --> 00:04:01,125 it finally got so bad and scared the locals so much 82 00:04:01,333 --> 00:04:03,417 that we think maybe we're just stuck with a curse 83 00:04:03,542 --> 00:04:05,250 we have to live with. 84 00:04:06,292 --> 00:04:08,292 SHATNER: Could the numerous fatalities 85 00:04:08,458 --> 00:04:10,333 that have taken place at Lake Lanier 86 00:04:10,458 --> 00:04:12,333 be the result of a curse? 87 00:04:12,500 --> 00:04:15,167 It may sound far-fetched to some. 88 00:04:15,333 --> 00:04:17,167 But for decades, 89 00:04:17,333 --> 00:04:19,667 researchers have been examining the possibility 90 00:04:19,875 --> 00:04:22,875 that Lake Lanier could be harboring the power 91 00:04:23,042 --> 00:04:24,542 to inflict harm. 92 00:04:24,708 --> 00:04:26,917 And according to their investigations, 93 00:04:27,083 --> 00:04:31,375 it may have something to do with the history of Lake Lanier. 94 00:04:33,500 --> 00:04:35,708 JACK W. OCKER: Lake Lanier is the largest lake in Georgia. 95 00:04:35,875 --> 00:04:39,917 It's a man-made lake meant to provide water and power 96 00:04:40,083 --> 00:04:41,583 to the surrounding communities. 97 00:04:41,750 --> 00:04:43,917 They actually made it by flooding a valley 98 00:04:44,042 --> 00:04:45,583 that had a town in it-- Oscarville. 99 00:04:46,625 --> 00:04:49,167 So, they had to relocate the people that lived there. 100 00:04:49,375 --> 00:04:53,375 Then they just drowned the entire town under water. 101 00:04:54,708 --> 00:04:57,167 SHATNER: Oscarville wasn't the only town 102 00:04:57,292 --> 00:04:59,917 that was affected by the building of Lake Lanier. 103 00:05:01,333 --> 00:05:03,250 In the 1940s and '50s, 104 00:05:03,375 --> 00:05:04,667 the U.S. government acquired the rights 105 00:05:04,833 --> 00:05:07,583 to more than 56,000 acres of land 106 00:05:07,750 --> 00:05:11,917 in Forsyth, Hall and Dawson counties 107 00:05:12,042 --> 00:05:15,000 to make room for the 38,000-acre lake 108 00:05:15,167 --> 00:05:19,042 and more than 700 miles of shoreline. 109 00:05:19,208 --> 00:05:22,083 This included several small towns, 110 00:05:22,250 --> 00:05:24,250 and the remains of these communities 111 00:05:24,417 --> 00:05:26,333 are still submerged 112 00:05:26,500 --> 00:05:28,875 beneath the surface of Lake Lanier. 113 00:05:30,125 --> 00:05:31,500 BUCHANAN: When they built the lake, 114 00:05:31,667 --> 00:05:34,125 they left tons of structure in the water. 115 00:05:34,292 --> 00:05:37,750 We've got concrete, roads, bridges. 116 00:05:37,917 --> 00:05:39,833 We've got a racetrack under there, we've got 117 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:43,667 standing timber that stands as high as 40, 60, 118 00:05:43,875 --> 00:05:46,708 70 feet from the bottom. 119 00:05:47,708 --> 00:05:49,333 HOROWITZ: There seems to be a great deal 120 00:05:49,542 --> 00:05:51,333 of debris in the water, 121 00:05:51,542 --> 00:05:55,000 so it's not an ideal place for people 122 00:05:55,167 --> 00:05:58,167 to be swimming or boating or Jet-Skiing or partying. 123 00:05:58,375 --> 00:06:00,542 The fact is it's a dangerous place. 124 00:06:01,583 --> 00:06:04,083 SHATNER: Authorities claim that many people drown 125 00:06:04,292 --> 00:06:06,375 in Lake Lanier because they get caught 126 00:06:06,542 --> 00:06:08,958 in the debris lurking beneath its surface. 127 00:06:09,917 --> 00:06:12,667 But researchers studying the lake believe 128 00:06:12,875 --> 00:06:16,333 this is only part of the story, and that the source 129 00:06:16,500 --> 00:06:21,333 of the dark force drawing people down into its murky depths 130 00:06:21,458 --> 00:06:23,833 is a Native American burial ground 131 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:27,958 that was submerged by the lake's construction. 132 00:06:30,125 --> 00:06:31,583 Back in 2007, there was a drought, 133 00:06:31,750 --> 00:06:33,042 and the water went way low, 134 00:06:33,208 --> 00:06:36,542 and because of that, they found an area 135 00:06:36,708 --> 00:06:39,958 called the Summerour Mounds, Indian Mounds. 136 00:06:40,125 --> 00:06:42,083 It's considered a sacred area 137 00:06:42,250 --> 00:06:44,250 that belonged to the Native Americans, 138 00:06:44,417 --> 00:06:45,958 the Creeks and the Cherokees. 139 00:06:46,167 --> 00:06:49,375 Lake Lanier was built by the Army Corps of Engineers, 140 00:06:49,542 --> 00:06:51,333 and according to the Army Corps of Engineers, 141 00:06:51,500 --> 00:06:52,708 they removed all the bodies 142 00:06:52,875 --> 00:06:54,625 while they were creating Lake Lanier. 143 00:06:54,750 --> 00:06:56,417 But back when they were building these lakes, 144 00:06:56,542 --> 00:06:58,625 they didn't have ground-penetrating equipment. 145 00:06:58,750 --> 00:07:01,458 So there's a great likelihood that there are bodies 146 00:07:01,625 --> 00:07:05,667 of the Native Americans under the waters of Lake Lanier. 147 00:07:06,583 --> 00:07:08,125 SHATNER: Could the presence 148 00:07:08,250 --> 00:07:09,667 of Native American remains 149 00:07:09,875 --> 00:07:12,000 beneath Lake Lanier have a connection 150 00:07:12,167 --> 00:07:16,333 to the unusual number of accidental deaths there? 151 00:07:16,542 --> 00:07:18,375 Has the Native American belief in the power 152 00:07:18,583 --> 00:07:23,833 of ancestral spirits cursed Lake Lanier? 153 00:07:24,875 --> 00:07:26,542 TOK THOMPSON: Certainly among Native American traditions, 154 00:07:26,708 --> 00:07:30,333 we have a widespread belief in curses, 155 00:07:30,500 --> 00:07:32,625 particularly land-based curses. 156 00:07:32,792 --> 00:07:36,667 And this connects to an overall sort of belief in animism, 157 00:07:36,833 --> 00:07:40,625 that the material world is infused with spiritual aspects. 158 00:07:40,750 --> 00:07:44,333 Now, many Native American traditions have long-standing, 159 00:07:44,542 --> 00:07:47,583 very deep beliefs about how to treat dead bodies, 160 00:07:47,792 --> 00:07:51,125 how not to disturb them, how not to disturb burial sites. 161 00:07:51,250 --> 00:07:54,333 The desecration of those is held in native communities 162 00:07:54,500 --> 00:07:58,417 to bring on a lot of bad spiritual energy. 163 00:07:59,542 --> 00:08:02,042 SHATNER: Is it possible that Lake Lanier is home 164 00:08:02,208 --> 00:08:04,083 to dark spiritual energy? 165 00:08:04,292 --> 00:08:06,917 Perhaps. 166 00:08:07,083 --> 00:08:08,500 But what's most surprising 167 00:08:08,667 --> 00:08:11,500 is that even though this lake may be cursed, 168 00:08:11,708 --> 00:08:16,458 people continue to enter its waters every day. 169 00:08:16,583 --> 00:08:18,500 BUCHANAN: There's world class divers 170 00:08:18,583 --> 00:08:19,833 that will not dive Lake Lanier. 171 00:08:20,042 --> 00:08:23,333 We have 11 to 14 million people a year 172 00:08:23,542 --> 00:08:25,500 that are coming here and taking their chances 173 00:08:25,708 --> 00:08:28,458 in spite of the fact that there has been somewhere 174 00:08:28,583 --> 00:08:31,917 between 600 and 700 drownings on this lake. 175 00:08:32,083 --> 00:08:33,958 I'm not saying that there's a curse, 176 00:08:34,083 --> 00:08:35,375 but I'm saying 177 00:08:35,542 --> 00:08:36,875 there's definitely some bad energy. 178 00:08:37,042 --> 00:08:40,292 And if it's not cursed, maybe it should be. 179 00:08:40,500 --> 00:08:41,833 SHATNER: It's fascinating 180 00:08:41,958 --> 00:08:44,750 that in spite of Lake Lanier's morbid history, 181 00:08:44,875 --> 00:08:49,083 vacationers continue to frolic in its murky waters. 182 00:08:49,250 --> 00:08:51,083 But there's a mountaintop 183 00:08:51,250 --> 00:08:54,667 located more than 5,000 miles away in Russia 184 00:08:54,833 --> 00:08:57,625 that locals simply refuse to visit. 185 00:08:57,792 --> 00:09:00,500 It was the site of a violent massacre 186 00:09:00,667 --> 00:09:03,833 that some believe was the work 187 00:09:04,042 --> 00:09:05,875 of evil forces. 188 00:09:14,292 --> 00:09:15,958 SHATNER: Nine mountaineers 189 00:09:16,125 --> 00:09:18,083 from the Ural Polytechnic Institute 190 00:09:18,250 --> 00:09:22,167 embark on a perilous journey through Russia's Ural Mountains. 191 00:09:22,292 --> 00:09:24,375 Their destination: 192 00:09:24,583 --> 00:09:28,333 a remote mountain peak known as Otorten, 193 00:09:28,542 --> 00:09:31,000 which in the local Mansi language means, 194 00:09:31,167 --> 00:09:32,917 "Don't Go There." 195 00:09:33,917 --> 00:09:35,375 STONEHILL: They went out 196 00:09:35,542 --> 00:09:38,667 on this very strenuous trek or mission 197 00:09:38,833 --> 00:09:41,125 to show that the mountain could be conquered. 198 00:09:41,292 --> 00:09:43,833 As far as we know, they were all experienced. 199 00:09:44,042 --> 00:09:46,333 Igor Dyatlov, who was in charge of the group, 200 00:09:46,458 --> 00:09:50,042 had about seven missions to his name, similar missions. 201 00:09:50,208 --> 00:09:52,833 They were supposed just to study the mountain 202 00:09:52,958 --> 00:09:56,083 to show that they can withstand the incredible cold 203 00:09:56,208 --> 00:09:58,625 in this desolate place and come back. 204 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:03,250 SHATNER: A few days into their trek, 205 00:10:03,417 --> 00:10:05,458 the hikers move through a mountain pass 206 00:10:05,667 --> 00:10:08,542 with high winds and poor visibility, 207 00:10:08,708 --> 00:10:12,167 causing them to veer miles off course. 208 00:10:12,333 --> 00:10:13,875 Realizing their mistake 209 00:10:14,042 --> 00:10:16,458 and faced with the bitter cold of the coming night, 210 00:10:16,625 --> 00:10:18,583 they choose to stop and camp 211 00:10:18,750 --> 00:10:21,167 on a slope called Kholat Syakhal, 212 00:10:21,333 --> 00:10:25,417 which in Mansi translates to "The Mountain of the Dead." 213 00:10:25,542 --> 00:10:27,750 (wind whistling) 214 00:10:27,917 --> 00:10:29,833 STONEHILL: It's a very a windy area. 215 00:10:30,042 --> 00:10:32,083 When I say windy, the winds are horrible. 216 00:10:32,250 --> 00:10:35,333 And they should not have put the tent on that slope. 217 00:10:35,542 --> 00:10:39,542 They could have done it easily 100 meters away in the forest. 218 00:10:39,750 --> 00:10:42,000 They went against all the knowledge 219 00:10:42,167 --> 00:10:43,958 that experienced trackers should have. 220 00:10:44,083 --> 00:10:46,125 So why would they put it out there? 221 00:10:47,875 --> 00:10:49,875 What drove them? Nobody knows for sure. 222 00:10:50,917 --> 00:10:52,833 SHATNER: Weeks later, when it becomes clear 223 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:55,208 that the group has failed to return from its expedition, 224 00:10:55,375 --> 00:10:59,667 a military search and rescue operation is launched. 225 00:10:59,833 --> 00:11:02,833 They find the campsite abandoned, 226 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:06,042 and a tent that has been torn to pieces. 227 00:11:06,208 --> 00:11:07,833 Curiously, the investigators determine 228 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:11,167 that the tent was cut and ripped open from the inside, 229 00:11:11,333 --> 00:11:15,208 and the hikers appear to have fled in socks or barefoot. 230 00:11:15,333 --> 00:11:19,000 We're dealing with a group of experienced hikers 231 00:11:19,208 --> 00:11:21,417 who escaped their tent in the middle of the night 232 00:11:21,583 --> 00:11:22,917 without any reason 233 00:11:23,042 --> 00:11:24,917 unless something happened to their minds. 234 00:11:25,042 --> 00:11:27,542 SHATNER: In search of the hikers, 235 00:11:27,750 --> 00:11:31,167 the investigators move to the edge of a nearby forest. 236 00:11:31,333 --> 00:11:35,042 What they eventually find has defied explanation 237 00:11:35,208 --> 00:11:37,292 for more than 50 years. 238 00:11:37,458 --> 00:11:39,500 STONEHILL: Four of them were discovered initially, 239 00:11:39,667 --> 00:11:41,333 and five of them were found later. 240 00:11:41,542 --> 00:11:43,500 And they all died differently. 241 00:11:43,625 --> 00:11:47,417 Some of the bodies died from exposure and were intact. 242 00:11:47,583 --> 00:11:51,000 Some of them were dressed completely. 243 00:11:51,167 --> 00:11:53,917 Most of them were naked, so to say. 244 00:11:54,083 --> 00:11:56,583 Others had horrible wounds on them. 245 00:11:56,750 --> 00:11:59,000 Their bones were crushed inside their bodies. 246 00:11:59,167 --> 00:12:02,167 Others, their skull was crushed. 247 00:12:02,333 --> 00:12:06,833 One woman lost her tongue and parts of her face. 248 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:08,750 Others were burned, 249 00:12:08,917 --> 00:12:10,708 like somebody put their feet in the fire 250 00:12:10,875 --> 00:12:12,125 or they put it themselves. 251 00:12:12,292 --> 00:12:14,125 -He's here! -Aah! 252 00:12:14,250 --> 00:12:16,667 STONEHILL: They escaped like some force, 253 00:12:16,833 --> 00:12:18,417 something scared them. 254 00:12:22,208 --> 00:12:24,792 SHATNER: The official causes of death for the hikers claimed 255 00:12:24,958 --> 00:12:26,958 that six had died from hypothermia, 256 00:12:27,125 --> 00:12:30,083 and the other three from fatal injuries caused 257 00:12:30,208 --> 00:12:34,083 by an "unknown compelling force." 258 00:12:34,250 --> 00:12:36,625 But the inquiry was forced to an abrupt end 259 00:12:36,792 --> 00:12:38,458 by the Soviet government, 260 00:12:38,583 --> 00:12:41,000 and the chief investigator refused 261 00:12:41,125 --> 00:12:43,417 to sign off on the final report. 262 00:12:43,542 --> 00:12:46,125 STONEHILL: There were two investigators initially, 263 00:12:46,292 --> 00:12:49,000 and they were told to shut up and close the case, 264 00:12:49,125 --> 00:12:52,083 with the determination that the cause of death 265 00:12:52,250 --> 00:12:56,583 was an invisible force of nature that killed them. 266 00:12:56,750 --> 00:12:58,125 NOORY: In some cases, the fact 267 00:12:58,292 --> 00:13:00,208 that some of them died from the bitter cold-- 268 00:13:00,375 --> 00:13:02,083 okay, that makes sense. 269 00:13:02,292 --> 00:13:03,917 They're in a region that's freezing. 270 00:13:04,083 --> 00:13:05,667 But what about the other people? 271 00:13:05,833 --> 00:13:08,500 Fractured skulls, crushed lungs. 272 00:13:08,708 --> 00:13:10,792 There's something weird here. 273 00:13:13,042 --> 00:13:15,458 SHATNER: What was the compelling force 274 00:13:15,542 --> 00:13:17,542 that inflicted such brutal 275 00:13:17,708 --> 00:13:20,917 and grotesque harm on these victims? 276 00:13:21,083 --> 00:13:22,667 While some have speculated 277 00:13:22,875 --> 00:13:24,500 that it could have been an avalanche 278 00:13:24,625 --> 00:13:27,042 or even an attack by Mansi tribes, 279 00:13:27,208 --> 00:13:30,167 there was virtually no evidence to support these claims. 280 00:13:30,375 --> 00:13:35,500 Others point to local legends of some kind of monster-- 281 00:13:35,708 --> 00:13:38,042 a creature capable of tearing people apart 282 00:13:38,208 --> 00:13:39,875 with its voice. 283 00:13:40,042 --> 00:13:41,750 STONEHILL: There are descriptions 284 00:13:41,917 --> 00:13:45,333 of Mansi warning people not to go to this mountain, 285 00:13:45,500 --> 00:13:48,708 not to go to this area because the sounds 286 00:13:48,875 --> 00:13:51,208 that come from there can kill you. 287 00:13:51,375 --> 00:13:53,125 The entity that lives 288 00:13:53,250 --> 00:13:57,125 in that mountain emits horrible shrieking sounds... 289 00:13:57,292 --> 00:13:59,750 (eerie, otherworldly screaming) 290 00:13:59,917 --> 00:14:02,792 ...that can destroy human beings. 291 00:14:02,958 --> 00:14:04,417 (growling) 292 00:14:06,875 --> 00:14:09,833 SHATNER: Recently, a new theory has surfaced. 293 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:11,542 One that suggests 294 00:14:11,750 --> 00:14:14,542 this mountain pass may be just as deadly 295 00:14:14,750 --> 00:14:16,625 as the Mansi name for it implies, 296 00:14:16,792 --> 00:14:20,917 not because of some supernatural monster, 297 00:14:21,042 --> 00:14:24,208 but for a surprisingly scientific reason. 298 00:14:24,417 --> 00:14:26,375 (wind whistling) 299 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:30,000 So, this is a very windy pass in the Ural Mountains. 300 00:14:30,125 --> 00:14:32,000 Uh, in 2014, there was some study that was done 301 00:14:32,208 --> 00:14:33,875 that showed that the wind 302 00:14:34,042 --> 00:14:36,167 kind of whipping through, because of the topography, 303 00:14:36,375 --> 00:14:39,083 caused low-frequency sound, kind of a hum. 304 00:14:39,208 --> 00:14:41,625 (wind whistling, eerie bellowing) 305 00:14:41,792 --> 00:14:45,083 And low-frequency sound can cause the eyeball to vibrate, 306 00:14:45,250 --> 00:14:47,167 can cause people to see shadows out of the corner of their eyes, 307 00:14:47,375 --> 00:14:49,333 especially if you're in an environment 308 00:14:49,500 --> 00:14:51,333 that is desolate, 309 00:14:51,500 --> 00:14:53,750 which is what that was to begin with. 310 00:14:53,917 --> 00:14:56,000 (eerie bellowing) 311 00:14:56,208 --> 00:14:57,750 MICHAEL DENNIN: The dimensions 312 00:14:57,875 --> 00:14:59,167 and the physics of the actual pass 313 00:14:59,333 --> 00:15:01,250 are likely to lead to very low frequencies, 314 00:15:01,458 --> 00:15:03,042 which is exactly what infrasound is. 315 00:15:03,208 --> 00:15:05,708 Infrasound is just referring to any sound 316 00:15:05,875 --> 00:15:07,333 that's below our normal hearing. 317 00:15:07,542 --> 00:15:10,458 But sound itself is just pressure waves 318 00:15:10,625 --> 00:15:11,833 and vibration of the air. 319 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:13,250 (eerie bellowing) 320 00:15:13,417 --> 00:15:15,667 So your body is still detecting it, 321 00:15:15,792 --> 00:15:17,750 your ears are still reacting to it, 322 00:15:17,917 --> 00:15:19,333 your eardrums are moving, 323 00:15:19,500 --> 00:15:20,833 and that's still generating electrical signals 324 00:15:21,042 --> 00:15:22,333 in your brain. 325 00:15:22,542 --> 00:15:24,208 So there is an impact of the infrasound 326 00:15:24,375 --> 00:15:27,167 that we don't fully understand yet. 327 00:15:28,208 --> 00:15:30,583 TRAVIS TAYLOR: Being exposed to this sound-- 328 00:15:30,708 --> 00:15:31,958 it's fatiguing your body. 329 00:15:32,125 --> 00:15:33,583 Any type of fatigue 330 00:15:33,792 --> 00:15:37,292 that's long-term can cause significant psychosis. 331 00:15:37,458 --> 00:15:39,667 In fact, there were several cases 332 00:15:39,833 --> 00:15:43,250 on the Mir space station where the Russian cosmonauts 333 00:15:43,458 --> 00:15:46,167 were exposed to various vibrations, 334 00:15:46,375 --> 00:15:49,167 and it caused them to actually have psychosis. 335 00:15:49,375 --> 00:15:51,875 I have a friend who worked on consoles for Mir, 336 00:15:52,042 --> 00:15:53,792 and he said that once, 337 00:15:53,958 --> 00:15:55,750 one of the cosmonauts actually pulled a knife 338 00:15:55,917 --> 00:15:57,250 on one of the other cosmonauts 339 00:15:57,417 --> 00:15:59,500 because of this type of exposure. 340 00:16:00,542 --> 00:16:03,417 STONEHILL: It's not like a rock falling on somebody's head. 341 00:16:03,583 --> 00:16:05,458 It's happening inside their minds. 342 00:16:05,625 --> 00:16:07,958 An infrasound is a powerful weapon, 343 00:16:08,125 --> 00:16:10,583 and apparently, it's affecting those 344 00:16:10,750 --> 00:16:12,250 who are coming to the mountain. 345 00:16:12,375 --> 00:16:14,375 That's why it is a hypothesis now 346 00:16:14,542 --> 00:16:16,917 that is being explored more and more in Russia 347 00:16:17,083 --> 00:16:21,000 as to the cause of death of the Dyatlov tourists. 348 00:16:21,167 --> 00:16:22,875 I don't subscribe to the theory 349 00:16:23,042 --> 00:16:26,167 that heavy winds created an atmosphere 350 00:16:26,333 --> 00:16:28,000 where these people went nuts. 351 00:16:28,167 --> 00:16:30,667 I think there was something else afoot, 352 00:16:30,833 --> 00:16:32,708 something very evil and strange 353 00:16:32,875 --> 00:16:34,500 that happened to these nine hikers. 354 00:16:34,667 --> 00:16:36,333 And I hope we get the answers to it. 355 00:16:36,542 --> 00:16:39,208 But again, maybe we don't want the answer. 356 00:16:39,375 --> 00:16:42,625 Maybe because it's so hideous and so evil, 357 00:16:42,792 --> 00:16:44,417 we don't want to know it. 358 00:16:48,458 --> 00:16:50,667 SHATNER: While modern science may offer a possible explanation 359 00:16:50,875 --> 00:16:55,292 as to what caused the terrifying event at the Dyatlov Pass, 360 00:16:55,458 --> 00:16:58,375 for many, the incident can only be described 361 00:16:58,542 --> 00:17:02,958 as an invisible force of evil that lurks on the mountaintop. 362 00:17:03,042 --> 00:17:06,333 And a similar sense of dread surrounds a notorious landmark 363 00:17:06,542 --> 00:17:11,000 in Los Angeles that, for decades, was known... 364 00:17:11,125 --> 00:17:14,208 as the suicide hotel. 365 00:17:22,125 --> 00:17:23,917 SHATNER: Numerous guests staying 366 00:17:24,083 --> 00:17:25,375 at the Cecil Hotel 367 00:17:25,542 --> 00:17:28,833 file complaints about low water pressure. 368 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:30,750 A maintenance worker is dispatched 369 00:17:30,958 --> 00:17:34,917 to check the water tanks located on the hotel's roof, 370 00:17:35,083 --> 00:17:37,708 where he makes a shocking discovery. 371 00:17:38,792 --> 00:17:40,375 Floating face down 372 00:17:40,542 --> 00:17:44,792 in one of the water tanks is the decomposing body 373 00:17:44,958 --> 00:17:49,083 of 21-year-old hotel guest Elisa Lam. 374 00:17:51,583 --> 00:17:53,792 On the last day of 2012, New Year's Eve, 375 00:17:53,958 --> 00:17:55,750 was the last time she was seen alive. 376 00:17:57,542 --> 00:18:00,667 Elisa Lam was caught by the camera in the elevator. 377 00:18:00,833 --> 00:18:03,500 And then she disappears. 378 00:18:03,583 --> 00:18:07,708 The LAPD-- they released a video of Elisa Lam, 379 00:18:07,875 --> 00:18:10,125 and it's a really bizarre, 380 00:18:10,250 --> 00:18:12,583 bizarre video. 381 00:18:12,750 --> 00:18:18,250 She's seen going in and out of an elevator. 382 00:18:18,375 --> 00:18:20,875 She seems to be interacting 383 00:18:21,042 --> 00:18:24,167 or playing hide-and-seek with someone. 384 00:18:24,250 --> 00:18:27,000 She's frantically, erratically 385 00:18:27,125 --> 00:18:30,333 pushing all the buttons in the elevator. 386 00:18:30,542 --> 00:18:35,875 And then she was found face down 387 00:18:36,042 --> 00:18:39,083 inside a sealed water tank 388 00:18:39,292 --> 00:18:41,125 at the roof of the hotel. 389 00:18:41,333 --> 00:18:42,667 (siren blaring) 390 00:18:42,833 --> 00:18:45,167 SHATNER: After conducting an investigation, 391 00:18:45,375 --> 00:18:47,958 the Los Angeles County Coroner ruled 392 00:18:48,125 --> 00:18:51,542 that Elisa Lam's death was an accident. 393 00:18:52,542 --> 00:18:54,625 But the bizarre circumstances 394 00:18:54,792 --> 00:18:57,625 surrounding her case led some researchers to believe 395 00:18:57,750 --> 00:19:01,167 that something more insidious had taken place, 396 00:19:01,333 --> 00:19:04,500 and that Elisa Lam was actually the latest victim 397 00:19:04,708 --> 00:19:09,792 of a deadly curse that plagues the Cecil Hotel. 398 00:19:11,250 --> 00:19:13,833 Since it first opened in 1924, 399 00:19:13,917 --> 00:19:16,500 an alarming number of people have taken their lives 400 00:19:16,708 --> 00:19:19,958 while staying there, earning it the nickname 401 00:19:20,083 --> 00:19:23,292 "suicide hotel." 402 00:19:23,458 --> 00:19:24,875 HOROWITZ: The Cecil Hotel 403 00:19:25,042 --> 00:19:26,500 is a Beaux Arts structure. 404 00:19:26,708 --> 00:19:30,667 It was built in the style of grand American hotels. 405 00:19:31,708 --> 00:19:33,750 Back in its day, it was quite beautiful, 406 00:19:33,875 --> 00:19:37,500 with columns, marble floors, an expansive lobby, 407 00:19:37,708 --> 00:19:40,917 and it was intended to be a very high-class hotel 408 00:19:41,083 --> 00:19:43,292 for an upwardly-mobile clientele. 409 00:19:44,667 --> 00:19:47,167 BARTLETT: All hotels have deaths in them, 410 00:19:47,292 --> 00:19:49,875 but for some reason, the Cecil Hotel 411 00:19:50,042 --> 00:19:52,667 seems to have far much more than the average number. 412 00:19:52,875 --> 00:19:56,583 When I was doing my research, I found 17 suicides 413 00:19:56,750 --> 00:19:59,583 within the newspaper archives that link to the hotel. 414 00:19:59,708 --> 00:20:01,542 And those are just reported ones. 415 00:20:01,708 --> 00:20:03,125 Now, it doesn't sound like a lot, 416 00:20:03,292 --> 00:20:05,208 but compared to all the other hotels, 417 00:20:05,417 --> 00:20:09,375 I would find maybe one or two, almost without exception. 418 00:20:09,542 --> 00:20:12,042 So, it makes this particular hotel stand out. 419 00:20:12,208 --> 00:20:17,333 EBNER: The Cecil Hotel had only been open a few short years. 420 00:20:17,500 --> 00:20:21,125 And the sheer number of suicides 421 00:20:21,292 --> 00:20:23,542 was already coming to a peak. 422 00:20:23,708 --> 00:20:27,792 W.K. Norton-- he poisoned himself in his room. 423 00:20:29,292 --> 00:20:33,667 And Army medic Sergeant Louis D. Borden-- 424 00:20:33,875 --> 00:20:36,167 he surgically slit his own throat 425 00:20:36,292 --> 00:20:37,875 in the hotel room. 426 00:20:38,042 --> 00:20:44,250 The list of unexplained deaths goes on and on and on. 427 00:20:44,458 --> 00:20:46,667 And people were, like, thinking, "Wow. 428 00:20:46,792 --> 00:20:50,208 "Could it be something about the Cecil Hotel 429 00:20:50,417 --> 00:20:54,625 that triggered this kind of insane behavior?" 430 00:20:54,750 --> 00:20:56,417 HOROWITZ: There are certain places 431 00:20:56,542 --> 00:20:59,667 that seem to attract an inordinate amount 432 00:20:59,833 --> 00:21:01,667 of violent activity. 433 00:21:02,708 --> 00:21:05,292 It's very easy for us to talk in terms of coincidence 434 00:21:05,417 --> 00:21:08,167 when we're discussing curses, 435 00:21:08,333 --> 00:21:10,250 but if people hear 436 00:21:10,375 --> 00:21:12,250 that there was an act of violence, 437 00:21:12,417 --> 00:21:16,333 suicide at a certain place, 438 00:21:16,500 --> 00:21:19,708 that seems to spark something in the human imagination, 439 00:21:19,875 --> 00:21:21,958 including in the most negative sense. 440 00:21:22,083 --> 00:21:23,333 Hence, we have the phenomena 441 00:21:23,542 --> 00:21:28,083 of people being attracted to certain spots. 442 00:21:29,125 --> 00:21:31,458 You might use the expression, "I don't like the energy 443 00:21:31,625 --> 00:21:33,167 coming off of that place." 444 00:21:33,375 --> 00:21:35,333 We use it metaphorically, although, 445 00:21:35,542 --> 00:21:37,333 there may be something actual to it. 446 00:21:38,500 --> 00:21:40,792 SHATNER: What is it about certain places, 447 00:21:40,958 --> 00:21:42,750 such as the Cecil Hotel, 448 00:21:42,958 --> 00:21:46,083 that causes people to harm themselves or others? 449 00:21:47,208 --> 00:21:49,833 Could they really be cursed? 450 00:21:50,875 --> 00:21:54,000 Some researchers claim that if there is a dark energy 451 00:21:54,125 --> 00:21:55,917 at the Cecil Hotel, 452 00:21:56,042 --> 00:21:59,375 it may have already existed at this site 453 00:21:59,583 --> 00:22:01,958 long before the hotel was built. 454 00:22:03,708 --> 00:22:05,167 Another interesting aspect of curses 455 00:22:05,292 --> 00:22:06,875 and cursed places particularly is 456 00:22:07,042 --> 00:22:11,458 that there's always a reason of why this became cursed. 457 00:22:12,417 --> 00:22:15,083 So, for example, in L.A., 458 00:22:15,208 --> 00:22:16,833 this has been a very contentious area 459 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:19,583 for a long time, ever since the initial colonization. 460 00:22:19,750 --> 00:22:20,875 (gunshot) 461 00:22:21,042 --> 00:22:22,500 So, the local tribe, 462 00:22:22,708 --> 00:22:25,000 the Tongva tribe, suffered greatly. 463 00:22:25,208 --> 00:22:27,292 (yelling) 464 00:22:27,417 --> 00:22:30,000 They were pretty much massacred at the hands 465 00:22:30,167 --> 00:22:32,625 of the Spanish colonists who arrived in this area. 466 00:22:33,875 --> 00:22:35,667 Or later, in 1871, 467 00:22:35,875 --> 00:22:37,958 where they have the Chinatown massacre, 468 00:22:38,042 --> 00:22:40,583 where this was an ethnic-driven violence 469 00:22:40,750 --> 00:22:43,000 perpetrated against the Chinese community in L.A. 470 00:22:43,208 --> 00:22:45,792 that had been established here, 471 00:22:45,917 --> 00:22:47,833 and it was horrific. 472 00:22:48,042 --> 00:22:50,292 The idea is that there's a... a curse 473 00:22:50,500 --> 00:22:52,833 on this area that reflects these atrocities, 474 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:55,833 and that the curse is not gonna be lifted 475 00:22:56,042 --> 00:22:59,083 as long as those atrocities are not accounted for. 476 00:23:00,125 --> 00:23:02,208 SHATNER: Is it possible that the dark history 477 00:23:02,375 --> 00:23:04,417 of the Cecil Hotel was caused 478 00:23:04,583 --> 00:23:07,625 by a violent energy permeating the area? 479 00:23:08,542 --> 00:23:10,625 True or not, 480 00:23:10,792 --> 00:23:14,000 the Cecil Hotel nevertheless closed its doors 481 00:23:14,167 --> 00:23:20,792 in 2017 as a result of its sinister reputation. 482 00:23:20,958 --> 00:23:23,125 A lot of people, of course, roll their eyes 483 00:23:23,292 --> 00:23:24,875 at the idea of a curse. 484 00:23:26,500 --> 00:23:28,417 But if you gave a person the option 485 00:23:28,583 --> 00:23:30,667 of spending a night alone 486 00:23:30,792 --> 00:23:33,500 in a place that was rumored to be cursed, like the Cecil, 487 00:23:33,708 --> 00:23:37,250 most of the people who roll their eyes would probably pause, 488 00:23:37,417 --> 00:23:40,833 given such a macabre history. 489 00:23:42,333 --> 00:23:44,583 Was the Cecil Hotel home 490 00:23:44,708 --> 00:23:48,458 to dark forces beyond our comprehension? 491 00:23:48,625 --> 00:23:51,167 Given the numerous deaths on the property, 492 00:23:51,333 --> 00:23:53,208 it certainly seems possible. 493 00:23:53,375 --> 00:23:56,250 But perhaps what's even more frightening 494 00:23:56,375 --> 00:24:00,042 than a cursed location is the possibility 495 00:24:00,167 --> 00:24:02,917 of coming face to face with pure evil, 496 00:24:03,042 --> 00:24:07,750 like in the case of renowned blues musician Robert Johnson, 497 00:24:07,875 --> 00:24:10,625 who, according to legend, 498 00:24:10,792 --> 00:24:13,042 received a deadly gift 499 00:24:13,208 --> 00:24:16,000 from the devil himself. 500 00:24:19,833 --> 00:24:22,208 ♪ ♪ 501 00:24:23,708 --> 00:24:26,125 SHATNER: This small town, 502 00:24:26,292 --> 00:24:29,333 located within an area known as the Mississippi Delta, 503 00:24:29,500 --> 00:24:33,042 has been called the birthplace of the blues. 504 00:24:34,417 --> 00:24:35,667 FISHOF: Delta blues music 505 00:24:35,875 --> 00:24:38,458 basically started in the early '20s, 506 00:24:38,625 --> 00:24:40,458 and it came from Mississippi. 507 00:24:40,625 --> 00:24:43,083 And it was African American musicians 508 00:24:43,250 --> 00:24:44,875 who sang very soulfully... 509 00:24:45,042 --> 00:24:46,500 (guitar playing) 510 00:24:46,708 --> 00:24:49,000 ...very fiercely with their guitars, 511 00:24:49,208 --> 00:24:50,417 with their harmonicas. 512 00:24:50,625 --> 00:24:51,833 And it wasn't usually a whole band. 513 00:24:51,917 --> 00:24:54,250 It was usually an individual person. 514 00:24:56,875 --> 00:24:59,375 SHATNER: Of all the blues musicians to play in Clarksdale 515 00:24:59,542 --> 00:25:02,500 during the 1920s and '30s, 516 00:25:02,708 --> 00:25:05,750 one of the most influential was a guitarist, singer 517 00:25:05,917 --> 00:25:09,542 and songwriter named Robert Johnson. 518 00:25:09,708 --> 00:25:10,708 SYLVESTER HOOVER: Robert Johnson, 519 00:25:10,875 --> 00:25:12,625 before he got really famous, 520 00:25:12,792 --> 00:25:16,000 he would go down on the corner and play his blues music. 521 00:25:16,167 --> 00:25:19,042 But early on in Robert Johnson's career, 522 00:25:19,208 --> 00:25:20,667 he wasn't that good. 523 00:25:21,917 --> 00:25:24,167 And the Delta people would tell Robert Johnson, 524 00:25:24,333 --> 00:25:26,750 "You go to the cemetery and play, 525 00:25:26,917 --> 00:25:28,833 "and you would have a big audience 526 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:33,208 and nobody would complain how bad you play your music." 527 00:25:33,375 --> 00:25:35,750 (playing guitar slowly) 528 00:25:35,917 --> 00:25:38,292 FISHOF: Robert Johnson, in his early part of his career, 529 00:25:38,500 --> 00:25:41,250 was an okay harmonica player, 530 00:25:41,458 --> 00:25:43,875 not a great guitar player. 531 00:25:44,042 --> 00:25:47,083 He just basically thrown out of places 532 00:25:47,208 --> 00:25:50,833 because he really wasn't considered very good. 533 00:25:51,875 --> 00:25:54,292 ANTHONY SHERROD: He really wasn't good at all, 534 00:25:54,458 --> 00:25:56,250 but he kept on... 535 00:25:56,375 --> 00:25:58,000 wanting to do it, 536 00:25:58,167 --> 00:26:00,958 to show people that he had potential. 537 00:26:02,708 --> 00:26:04,000 SHATNER: When faced with the prospect 538 00:26:04,167 --> 00:26:06,667 of having his musical ambitions thwarted, 539 00:26:06,833 --> 00:26:08,667 according to legend, 540 00:26:08,875 --> 00:26:12,042 Robert Johnson chose to enlist the help of a higher power-- 541 00:26:12,167 --> 00:26:14,417 by making a deal 542 00:26:14,583 --> 00:26:16,083 with the Devil. 543 00:26:18,375 --> 00:26:19,875 (insects trilling) 544 00:26:20,042 --> 00:26:22,500 HOOVER: Peoples in the Delta would say, 545 00:26:22,708 --> 00:26:26,708 if you play blues at midnight at the crossroads, 546 00:26:26,875 --> 00:26:29,125 you gonna meet a lot of strange peoples. 547 00:26:29,292 --> 00:26:33,917 And you might meet Satan himself at the crossroad. 548 00:26:36,125 --> 00:26:38,250 And so Robert Johnson went to the crossroad 549 00:26:38,417 --> 00:26:39,875 that Saturday night. 550 00:26:40,833 --> 00:26:42,792 He really went to the crossroads, 551 00:26:42,958 --> 00:26:45,125 gave his guitar to the Devil. 552 00:26:47,417 --> 00:26:51,375 The Devil strummed it a few times and gave it back to him. 553 00:26:51,583 --> 00:26:55,000 And from that moment on, he sold his soul to the Devil 554 00:26:55,208 --> 00:26:59,292 and became an amazing guitar player overnight. 555 00:26:59,500 --> 00:27:02,208 And that's how the legend goes. 556 00:27:06,958 --> 00:27:10,292 He came back maybe two and a half or three hours later. 557 00:27:10,458 --> 00:27:11,667 (playing guitar skillfully) 558 00:27:11,833 --> 00:27:13,917 And so this guy was a different person. 559 00:27:14,125 --> 00:27:16,583 After he left the crossroad, 560 00:27:16,750 --> 00:27:20,208 he was doing stuff that he couldn't do before. 561 00:27:20,375 --> 00:27:21,625 Whatever he did, 562 00:27:21,750 --> 00:27:23,167 he never was the same again. 563 00:27:23,292 --> 00:27:25,833 Honeyboy said he could play so great, 564 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,833 people would come from here and yonder 565 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:30,833 to hear this guy play his music. 566 00:27:31,042 --> 00:27:33,875 This guy seemed like he had a magnet 567 00:27:34,042 --> 00:27:36,083 after he left the crossroad. 568 00:27:37,125 --> 00:27:40,167 FISHOF: From that point on, he became an amazing guitar player. 569 00:27:40,375 --> 00:27:43,958 It was just a lot different, what any musician could do. 570 00:27:44,125 --> 00:27:48,250 Robert Johnson's legacy will live for many, many years. 571 00:27:48,417 --> 00:27:51,750 You cannot listen to a song from the Beatles, 572 00:27:51,875 --> 00:27:53,667 Eric Clapton, 573 00:27:53,833 --> 00:27:56,333 Led Zeppelin or from the Rolling Stones 574 00:27:56,500 --> 00:28:00,125 without giving credit to Robert Johnson's style 575 00:28:00,292 --> 00:28:02,458 that many of these musicians copied. 576 00:28:02,625 --> 00:28:04,208 And even Keith Richards said 577 00:28:04,375 --> 00:28:07,833 he could play the guitar like three musicians together. 578 00:28:07,958 --> 00:28:09,333 He had that ability. 579 00:28:09,542 --> 00:28:11,833 (playing bluesy guitar) 580 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,500 SHATNER: Today, Robert Johnson is widely considered 581 00:28:14,708 --> 00:28:17,833 to be one of the greatest blues performers of all time. 582 00:28:18,042 --> 00:28:21,625 And his songs are among the most influential recordings 583 00:28:21,792 --> 00:28:23,875 in the history of popular music. 584 00:28:25,250 --> 00:28:28,917 But there are many who point to the lyrics of his songs 585 00:28:29,042 --> 00:28:32,917 as evidence that he really did make a pact with Satan 586 00:28:33,083 --> 00:28:35,292 in order to achieve greatness. 587 00:28:36,500 --> 00:28:37,542 FISHOF: Robert Johnson, 588 00:28:37,708 --> 00:28:39,042 in his music, 589 00:28:39,208 --> 00:28:41,667 refers to the Devil basically by saying, 590 00:28:41,875 --> 00:28:44,458 "I went to the crossroads and fell on my knees." 591 00:28:44,625 --> 00:28:47,458 And he asked the Lord for mercy. 592 00:28:49,292 --> 00:28:52,000 BROCK: If you believe that the Devil is ever-present, 593 00:28:52,167 --> 00:28:54,625 that you can encounter him on the crossroads, 594 00:28:54,792 --> 00:28:58,958 then that's a really critical idea in forming this notion 595 00:28:59,042 --> 00:29:01,625 of the Faustian bargain, the deal with the Devil. 596 00:29:01,792 --> 00:29:03,917 This promise of their souls 597 00:29:04,042 --> 00:29:06,167 in exchange for something else from Satan. 598 00:29:07,875 --> 00:29:11,792 This is key to the fear of the Devil. 599 00:29:11,917 --> 00:29:14,667 That Satan could be so knowing, 600 00:29:14,875 --> 00:29:16,917 so ubiquitous, so powerful 601 00:29:17,042 --> 00:29:19,208 that he could know your secret wants 602 00:29:19,375 --> 00:29:21,583 and he could offer something to you 603 00:29:21,708 --> 00:29:23,417 and you might be willing to take it, 604 00:29:23,583 --> 00:29:25,083 depending on your circumstance. 605 00:29:26,667 --> 00:29:30,125 SHATNER: Did Robert Johnson sell his soul to the Devil? 606 00:29:30,250 --> 00:29:32,500 It's a question that is hard to answer. 607 00:29:32,708 --> 00:29:37,750 But the mysterious circumstances surrounding his death in 1938 608 00:29:37,917 --> 00:29:41,083 have helped perpetuate the myth. 609 00:29:42,083 --> 00:29:46,083 FISHOF: Robert Johnson's death is basically a mystery. 610 00:29:46,250 --> 00:29:48,000 Many say that 611 00:29:48,167 --> 00:29:50,333 he met up with a jealous husband 612 00:29:50,542 --> 00:29:52,000 after flirting with his wife, 613 00:29:52,208 --> 00:29:55,708 and the husband gave him a bottle of whiskey 614 00:29:55,875 --> 00:29:58,000 that was filled with poison. 615 00:30:00,292 --> 00:30:02,833 There's many other theories of how he passed away. 616 00:30:02,958 --> 00:30:06,333 But many people say he just died 617 00:30:06,417 --> 00:30:09,958 and maybe it was time for the Devil to take his soul. 618 00:30:10,125 --> 00:30:13,083 HOOVER: That mystery, it throws a monkey wrench in it, 619 00:30:13,250 --> 00:30:14,625 and some people gonna believe this, 620 00:30:14,792 --> 00:30:16,208 some people gonna believe that. 621 00:30:16,333 --> 00:30:19,208 Ain't nobody know the full story of this guy, 622 00:30:19,375 --> 00:30:23,667 because that's the way he portrayed himself, 623 00:30:23,833 --> 00:30:24,792 you know? Seeing... 624 00:30:24,958 --> 00:30:26,000 And that's just the way it is. 625 00:30:26,208 --> 00:30:28,125 The mystery of the crossroad. 626 00:30:28,292 --> 00:30:30,292 ♪ ♪ 627 00:30:32,958 --> 00:30:34,875 SHATNER: Is the tale of Robert Johnson 628 00:30:35,042 --> 00:30:36,750 meeting the Devil at the crossroads 629 00:30:36,917 --> 00:30:40,000 merely a piece of intriguing folklore? 630 00:30:40,208 --> 00:30:43,042 Or does the story suggest 631 00:30:43,208 --> 00:30:45,125 that evil is lurking nearby? 632 00:30:45,292 --> 00:30:47,250 Perhaps some clues can be found 633 00:30:47,417 --> 00:30:51,333 by examining a harrowing condition that is referred to 634 00:30:51,500 --> 00:30:54,458 as demonic possession. 635 00:31:02,167 --> 00:31:04,167 SHATNER: Father Michael Maginot, 636 00:31:04,333 --> 00:31:07,500 the pastor of St. Stephen Martyr Catholic Church, 637 00:31:07,708 --> 00:31:10,833 meets with Latoya Ammons in her home. 638 00:31:11,042 --> 00:31:14,500 But this is not a common pastoral house call. 639 00:31:14,667 --> 00:31:17,708 Because Father Mike, as he is known by his parishioners, 640 00:31:17,875 --> 00:31:20,667 is also an exorcist, 641 00:31:20,833 --> 00:31:25,542 and he has been asked to rid this home 642 00:31:25,708 --> 00:31:26,958 of a demon. 643 00:31:28,375 --> 00:31:32,833 Latoya moved into this particular house in Gary 644 00:31:33,042 --> 00:31:36,083 in November of 2011. 645 00:31:37,125 --> 00:31:39,708 She was the mother of three children. 646 00:31:39,917 --> 00:31:42,375 And once the family moved in, 647 00:31:42,542 --> 00:31:44,792 they were noticing all kinds of phenomena 648 00:31:44,958 --> 00:31:46,625 happening in the house. 649 00:31:48,375 --> 00:31:52,083 Flies were swarming in the middle of winter. 650 00:31:54,292 --> 00:31:56,667 They would hear noises through the house. 651 00:31:56,833 --> 00:31:58,833 (creaking) 652 00:31:59,042 --> 00:32:02,625 Footsteps coming up the stairs from the basement. 653 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:05,875 They would see shadow figures 654 00:32:06,042 --> 00:32:07,917 pacing back and forth in the living room 655 00:32:08,042 --> 00:32:09,792 and turn on the light 656 00:32:09,958 --> 00:32:15,083 and see muddy footprints left on the floor. 657 00:32:16,208 --> 00:32:18,083 Her children, uh, 658 00:32:18,250 --> 00:32:21,167 were also exhibiting some really odd behavior. 659 00:32:22,292 --> 00:32:26,167 One of the boys was seen talking to an imaginary friend 660 00:32:26,375 --> 00:32:29,125 that resided somewhere within the house. 661 00:32:30,417 --> 00:32:32,500 And reports also suggest that the daughter 662 00:32:32,708 --> 00:32:36,167 was seen levitating several feet above her bed at night. 663 00:32:39,167 --> 00:32:42,250 MAGINOT: And so Latoya was convinced 664 00:32:42,458 --> 00:32:46,250 something beyond explanation was happening to her family. 665 00:32:46,417 --> 00:32:48,375 But no one would really believe her. 666 00:32:49,542 --> 00:32:50,750 During that time, 667 00:32:50,875 --> 00:32:52,583 the children-- they were getting sick. 668 00:32:52,750 --> 00:32:56,500 And then child protective services were getting reports 669 00:32:56,667 --> 00:32:58,583 that they were missing a lot of school. 670 00:32:58,750 --> 00:33:03,125 So they actually were investigating Latoya. 671 00:33:03,208 --> 00:33:05,000 -(crying) -She was saying 672 00:33:05,167 --> 00:33:07,625 that it was demonic possession. 673 00:33:07,792 --> 00:33:11,167 And so they were giving her psychiatric examinations. 674 00:33:11,333 --> 00:33:16,292 But they couldn't find any psychological illness with her. 675 00:33:16,458 --> 00:33:18,750 SHATNER: Not only did the authorities fail to find 676 00:33:18,875 --> 00:33:22,083 any trace of mental illness in Latoya's behavior 677 00:33:22,250 --> 00:33:26,167 or any inconsistencies in her story, 678 00:33:26,375 --> 00:33:29,292 they also witnessed an event involving her son 679 00:33:29,458 --> 00:33:31,833 that made them realize that something 680 00:33:31,958 --> 00:33:33,958 really was happening to this family. 681 00:33:34,167 --> 00:33:37,083 Something unexplained. 682 00:33:38,125 --> 00:33:40,750 During the family's psychiatric evaluations, 683 00:33:40,958 --> 00:33:42,958 the youngest child 684 00:33:43,125 --> 00:33:46,083 began rolling eyes in the back of his head, 685 00:33:46,208 --> 00:33:47,833 growling. 686 00:33:49,292 --> 00:33:51,167 And then the case worker 687 00:33:51,333 --> 00:33:53,667 as well as several members of hospital staff 688 00:33:53,833 --> 00:33:57,083 witnessed the boy walk backwards up a wall. 689 00:34:00,542 --> 00:34:04,042 MAGINOT: When they witnessed the boy walk up the wall backwards, 690 00:34:04,208 --> 00:34:05,375 yeah, they were believers. 691 00:34:05,542 --> 00:34:08,500 They knew there was no explanation for that. 692 00:34:09,542 --> 00:34:12,667 And so I got called to investigate this case 693 00:34:12,750 --> 00:34:14,917 by the hospital chaplain. 694 00:34:15,125 --> 00:34:17,667 And I went to visit Latoya. 695 00:34:17,833 --> 00:34:19,333 It was a four-hour interview. 696 00:34:19,458 --> 00:34:21,333 And it was in the midst of that 697 00:34:21,458 --> 00:34:26,625 that I placed the crucifix on her forehead, 698 00:34:26,750 --> 00:34:29,458 and she began to convulse. 699 00:34:29,625 --> 00:34:32,000 Then I took it off, and she stopped convulsing. 700 00:34:32,208 --> 00:34:35,250 And that's one of the main things 701 00:34:35,375 --> 00:34:39,292 that fits the signs of demonic possession. 702 00:34:39,417 --> 00:34:43,583 After considering the evidence, I was convinced 703 00:34:43,750 --> 00:34:45,375 that the only way to get rid of it 704 00:34:45,542 --> 00:34:48,458 was a church-sanctioned exorcism. 705 00:34:48,625 --> 00:34:52,708 And so, I reported that to the bishop, 706 00:34:52,875 --> 00:34:54,375 and he gave permission. 707 00:34:55,708 --> 00:34:59,667 An exorcism is a ritual, a spiritual battle. 708 00:34:59,833 --> 00:35:04,167 And so, you need to somehow upset the demon. 709 00:35:04,333 --> 00:35:06,333 One of the instruments 710 00:35:06,417 --> 00:35:08,667 that I would use would be a blessed crucifix 711 00:35:08,875 --> 00:35:11,208 to put on the person's forehead. 712 00:35:11,375 --> 00:35:15,208 A second thing is sprinkling holy water. 713 00:35:15,375 --> 00:35:19,042 There are three sections of the rite 714 00:35:19,167 --> 00:35:21,042 where you're addressing the demon, 715 00:35:21,208 --> 00:35:23,875 and a second place where you're addressing God. 716 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,042 And you can do it in English 717 00:35:26,208 --> 00:35:28,125 or else you could also do it in Latin. 718 00:35:28,333 --> 00:35:31,125 In Latoya's case, 719 00:35:31,333 --> 00:35:33,125 when we were addressing a demon in Latin, 720 00:35:33,333 --> 00:35:35,708 Latoya would be convulsing, 721 00:35:35,875 --> 00:35:39,250 but when we were addressing God, she would stop convulsing. 722 00:35:39,417 --> 00:35:41,458 I'm the only one there that knew the Latin, 723 00:35:41,625 --> 00:35:44,083 and... and I found that kind of amazing. 724 00:35:44,250 --> 00:35:47,000 A demonic entity will fight 725 00:35:47,167 --> 00:35:51,250 for the territory that they have gained, 726 00:35:51,417 --> 00:35:54,375 but then, eventually, it starts to lessen. 727 00:35:54,542 --> 00:35:57,458 With Latoya, finally, she fell asleep, 728 00:35:57,667 --> 00:36:01,792 and that was kind of an indication that it left. 729 00:36:01,958 --> 00:36:04,458 Once she got cleared, um, 730 00:36:04,625 --> 00:36:08,333 then the children were also fine after that, as well. 731 00:36:09,708 --> 00:36:12,542 SHATNER: What saved Latoya Ammons and her children 732 00:36:12,708 --> 00:36:16,083 from their deep physical and emotional torment? 733 00:36:16,292 --> 00:36:18,750 Was it really the spiritual power 734 00:36:18,917 --> 00:36:21,958 of the ritual that Father Michael performed? 735 00:36:22,125 --> 00:36:26,000 Or was it the psychological or psychosomatic effect 736 00:36:26,167 --> 00:36:28,167 that simply performing a ritual 737 00:36:28,333 --> 00:36:31,583 had on Latoya and her family? 738 00:36:31,792 --> 00:36:33,458 Latoya's case is really interesting 739 00:36:33,625 --> 00:36:35,500 because it's a case that actually made national news. 740 00:36:35,667 --> 00:36:38,542 Herself and her children were exhibiting symptoms 741 00:36:38,708 --> 00:36:41,125 that could not be explained rationally 742 00:36:41,292 --> 00:36:42,708 by modern medical science. 743 00:36:42,875 --> 00:36:45,708 But in the end, after all of their attempts, 744 00:36:45,875 --> 00:36:47,542 it was the exorcism itself 745 00:36:47,708 --> 00:36:49,667 that actually produced the positive effect. 746 00:36:49,750 --> 00:36:52,500 We have evidence of exorcism rituals 747 00:36:52,667 --> 00:36:56,500 dating back 3,000 years ago in ancient Babylon. 748 00:36:56,667 --> 00:36:58,042 (groaning) 749 00:36:58,250 --> 00:36:59,958 To those that say that exorcism 750 00:37:00,125 --> 00:37:02,708 shouldn't exist in modern society, 751 00:37:02,875 --> 00:37:06,875 they really need to appreciate just how successful 752 00:37:07,083 --> 00:37:09,000 exorcism can be as a ritual, 753 00:37:09,208 --> 00:37:11,292 how it's able to help people. 754 00:37:11,458 --> 00:37:14,292 ARIEL BAR TZADOK: Exorcisms are not just performed by one religion or another. 755 00:37:14,458 --> 00:37:17,167 They're performed by all the different religions. 756 00:37:17,292 --> 00:37:18,833 It happens everywhere, 757 00:37:19,042 --> 00:37:22,583 because we're dealing with a commonality of human souls. 758 00:37:22,750 --> 00:37:27,000 We recognize that the nature of a possession 759 00:37:27,125 --> 00:37:29,708 is an earthbound soul 760 00:37:29,833 --> 00:37:34,208 which is unable to or afraid to move forward 761 00:37:34,417 --> 00:37:36,417 in its spiritual progression. 762 00:37:37,375 --> 00:37:39,875 And we perform rituals, 763 00:37:40,042 --> 00:37:42,083 because the nature of ritual 764 00:37:42,208 --> 00:37:44,500 is being an expression 765 00:37:44,583 --> 00:37:47,708 of inner psychological ideas and beliefs. 766 00:37:47,875 --> 00:37:50,375 And therefore, as such, 767 00:37:50,542 --> 00:37:55,000 exorcisms become required practice. 768 00:37:55,167 --> 00:37:56,625 (screaming) 769 00:37:56,833 --> 00:37:59,875 SHATNER: Can the ancient practice of exorcism 770 00:38:00,042 --> 00:38:02,958 actually purge demonic entities from the human body, 771 00:38:03,083 --> 00:38:07,125 as cultures around the world have believed for centuries? 772 00:38:07,292 --> 00:38:09,042 It's an intriguing possibility. 773 00:38:09,208 --> 00:38:12,458 But some people argue that the best way to fight evil 774 00:38:12,625 --> 00:38:14,000 is not by performing rituals 775 00:38:14,208 --> 00:38:17,000 but rather by harnessing 776 00:38:17,167 --> 00:38:21,458 the cleansing power of fire. 777 00:38:33,667 --> 00:38:37,083 SHATNER: Members of a church group set two houses on fire 778 00:38:37,250 --> 00:38:39,167 and burn them to the ground. 779 00:38:39,292 --> 00:38:42,958 The blaze is intended to purge the village of evil spirits 780 00:38:43,125 --> 00:38:44,292 believed to have been responsible 781 00:38:44,458 --> 00:38:46,375 for the recent deaths of 20 people. 782 00:38:50,333 --> 00:38:51,917 These houses were older houses, 783 00:38:52,042 --> 00:38:54,375 but they had been traditionally associated 784 00:38:54,542 --> 00:38:56,333 with magical practices 785 00:38:56,542 --> 00:38:59,833 and the reports of witchcraft being practiced. 786 00:38:59,958 --> 00:39:02,833 WHITEHEAD: And as they burnt the places down to the ground, 787 00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:05,167 some of the villagers reported seeing a demon 788 00:39:05,375 --> 00:39:07,875 come out of the ashes. 789 00:39:08,083 --> 00:39:10,500 And they've reported all kinds of really creepy things 790 00:39:10,625 --> 00:39:13,167 that happened once they tried to burn down those houses. 791 00:39:13,375 --> 00:39:16,417 So the question is, were they successful 792 00:39:16,542 --> 00:39:18,458 in getting rid of evil in that place? 793 00:39:18,625 --> 00:39:22,458 Or did they actually just aggravate it more 794 00:39:22,625 --> 00:39:24,875 by burning those houses to the ground? 795 00:39:27,125 --> 00:39:32,000 THOMPSON: Fire is a very common means of spiritual purification. 796 00:39:32,125 --> 00:39:34,000 And so many different traditions 797 00:39:34,125 --> 00:39:36,542 incorporate fire in some sense, 798 00:39:36,708 --> 00:39:41,500 very often for its destructive properties 799 00:39:41,667 --> 00:39:45,083 and yet, at the same time, cleansing properties. 800 00:39:45,250 --> 00:39:46,417 When we're talking about places 801 00:39:46,583 --> 00:39:48,000 that seem to have negativity to them, 802 00:39:48,125 --> 00:39:50,167 many cultures have rituals-- 803 00:39:50,375 --> 00:39:51,667 whether it's burning 804 00:39:51,792 --> 00:39:53,208 or other types of ways 805 00:39:53,375 --> 00:39:55,333 that you can affect the energy of the place. 806 00:39:55,458 --> 00:39:57,167 It's all about what the intention is, 807 00:39:57,333 --> 00:39:59,000 which changes the flow of energy. 808 00:39:59,958 --> 00:40:01,833 I've had a lot of people on my radio show 809 00:40:01,958 --> 00:40:05,292 who have apparently cleansed haunted houses 810 00:40:05,458 --> 00:40:06,500 and haunted areas. 811 00:40:06,708 --> 00:40:09,417 They talk about putting sage 812 00:40:09,542 --> 00:40:11,833 around the perimeter of the house 813 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:13,083 and things like that 814 00:40:13,250 --> 00:40:15,625 that chase away the evil spirits. 815 00:40:16,667 --> 00:40:19,458 But by and large, I'm not sure that works. 816 00:40:19,583 --> 00:40:22,083 I think once a place is haunted, 817 00:40:22,250 --> 00:40:23,208 it's gonna haunt. 818 00:40:23,417 --> 00:40:25,000 It's gonna do what it does. 819 00:40:26,458 --> 00:40:29,167 DAVID ONO: I think there are energies in life that we don't understand. 820 00:40:29,375 --> 00:40:31,625 Either created through our own minds 821 00:40:31,792 --> 00:40:33,667 and our own physical energy 822 00:40:33,875 --> 00:40:37,167 or perhaps the physical energy of a place. 823 00:40:38,375 --> 00:40:40,500 There are places where people have died 824 00:40:40,708 --> 00:40:42,917 either violently or tragically, 825 00:40:43,083 --> 00:40:45,792 and that creates this dark energy. 826 00:40:45,917 --> 00:40:48,375 There might be some negative spirits, 827 00:40:48,542 --> 00:40:49,917 some ghosts. 828 00:40:50,083 --> 00:40:52,375 And that force that's happening within it 829 00:40:52,542 --> 00:40:53,958 could also affect people. 830 00:40:56,042 --> 00:40:59,000 DAVE SPINKS: I've been to some of the most evil and nasty locations 831 00:40:59,167 --> 00:41:00,458 you could imagine. 832 00:41:00,625 --> 00:41:02,583 And I've seen people's lives ruined 833 00:41:02,750 --> 00:41:05,375 by these negative, evil forces. 834 00:41:05,542 --> 00:41:08,250 And in my opinion, some of these locations 835 00:41:08,417 --> 00:41:09,958 are stained forever 836 00:41:10,083 --> 00:41:14,542 with the blood and the energy of these tragic events, 837 00:41:14,708 --> 00:41:16,292 these murders, 838 00:41:16,417 --> 00:41:18,417 these suicides. 839 00:41:18,542 --> 00:41:21,042 And to me, that can never go away. 840 00:41:21,208 --> 00:41:23,125 ♪ ♪ 841 00:41:26,542 --> 00:41:27,958 So what do you think? 842 00:41:28,958 --> 00:41:31,750 Do dark forces actually exist? 843 00:41:31,917 --> 00:41:34,958 Or are supposed evil encounters 844 00:41:35,125 --> 00:41:38,208 simply fabrications of our human imagination? 845 00:41:38,417 --> 00:41:42,083 Well, the truth is that it's hard to scientifically prove 846 00:41:42,250 --> 00:41:47,125 whether or not malevolent entities are, in fact, real. 847 00:41:47,250 --> 00:41:49,500 Which is why, in all likelihood, 848 00:41:49,708 --> 00:41:54,167 people will continue to both fear and fight 849 00:41:54,292 --> 00:41:58,250 against evil forces that remain unseen and... 850 00:42:00,125 --> 00:42:01,958 ...unexplained. 851 00:42:02,125 --> 00:42:03,792 CAPTIONING PROVIDED BY A+E NETWORKS 66094

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