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We are the first all-girl band
that wrote their own material
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and played their own
instruments to be really successful.
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All right, this is for
you for being so nice.
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I gave up looking for a reason
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To live with things
just the way they were
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I came around, used to be
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Easy to get to so they
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Got to me in just about every way
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Caught with no cards up your sleeve
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Not much to choose from
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Grew up all along
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Just thinking that you couldn't lose
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I came around, used to be
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Easy to get to so they
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Got to me in just about every way
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Can't stop the world
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Can't stop the world Why let it stop you?
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People automatically assumed
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that we were probably
put together by some guy,
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but we did it all ourselves.
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Let's go!
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We got on stage,
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and it happened to be a group
of women really kicking ass.
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It was great.
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One in a million bands
gets to where we got.
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America knew who The Go-Go's were.
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These are The Go-Go's.
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Charlotte Caffey, Gina Schock,
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Jane Wiedlin, Kathy Valentine
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and Belinda Carlisle.
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The greatest all-girl group
of all time, The Go-Go's.
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- The Go-Go's!
- The Go-Go's!
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We were really making big
strides, loving what we were doing
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and being in that moment of, like, wow!
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Can't stop the world...
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I couldn't walk down
the street at that time.
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That's how famous The Go-Go's were.
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In the course of a year,
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we had gone from playing dive
bars to Madison Square Garden.
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Can't stop the world
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I was on top of the world,
I felt like we had made it.
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There never would have been The Go-Go's
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without the punk rock
scene in Los Angeles.
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Well, you got it! From
Hollywood, The Go-Go's!
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Happy Saint Patrick's Day.
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There's a problem with the monitor here,
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and I'm getting shocked. Sorry.
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At the time, there were 50
kids tops in the LA punk scene.
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It was DIY, and if you were
terrible, you were cooler,
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and anybody could do
whatever they wanted.
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It was total freedom.
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Don't assume that we never think
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You think you know but you haven't a clue
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- 'Cause we're - We're
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- Here - Here
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- Now - Now
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We don't need you around
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It was about feeling
emotion, anger, rage.
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And you got to express it.
And the rawer, the better.
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Don't make the mistake of criticizing
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Don't even bother patronizing
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I was such a punk, it
was like my identity.
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Being in The Go-Go's meant
being more involved in the scene
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with all your friends. Just
a great sense of belonging.
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...around
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- 'Cause we're - We're
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I was a little bit of an outsider,
because I wasn't overtly punk rock.
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You wouldn't think so looking at me,
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I look really straight, but I
have a very twisted mind.
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We hated society and our parents
but we supported each other.
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Everyone was welcome,
outcasts, geeks, gays, straights,
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people of color, women. It was inclusive.
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- 'Cause we're - We're
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- Here - Here
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- Now - Now
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And that was a great place for me to be,
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because I always
felt like I didn't fit in.
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I kind of had this image of
being this really happy person,
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and I can be.
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But I have this thing in me
that's just always there, like...
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I have a lifelong history of depression.
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When I was 15, I tried to kill myself.
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Right around that same time, I
was looking at Women's Wear Daily,
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and they had all these photos
of the London punk scene.
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Oh, my God, it really spoke
to me. I was like, "I want this!"
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So I just started making
my own punk clothes,
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and one weekend, I went
to this store on Sunset Strip
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that was called Granny Takes a Trip,
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and while I was in there,
I met Pleasant Gehman.
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This little girl came
in, she had huge eyes.
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She looked like an anime action figure.
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She had these shirts that had
two zippers sewn in over the boobs,
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and so, when you unzipped them,
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your bra or your bare
boobs would come out.
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She told me that there was a
scene in Hollywood, a punk scene,
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and she gave me a flyer for
this club called the Masque.
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In the punk scene, there was
just so much energy and anger.
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And having suppressed
bad feelings my whole life,
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the suicide attempt was
obviously it trying to come out,
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and then, becoming a punk rocker,
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I felt was a really positive
way for it to come out.
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People used to cross the
street when they saw me.
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I felt powerful for the first time.
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I just felt like I had found my home.
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The punk scene gave
me an outlet to act out
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and be the badass that I thought I was.
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I'm the oldest of seven kids.
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My father left when I was five.
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My stepfather was hardcore,
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very much an old-school disciplinarian.
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We had no money.
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I remember growing up and being in school
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and always feeling like
I was pretending to be
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something that I probably wasn't.
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I was a real good student,
I was a cheerleader.
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Does anybody have a cigarette?
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But then, I discovered the punk scene,
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and that opened up a
whole new world for me.
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Everybody in the LA punk rock scene...
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it was like there was
invisible smoke signals
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getting sent out of, like, you know,
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"You need to go to
this club on that night."
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And the Sex Pistols were playing
at Winterland in San Francisco,
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and pretty much everybody in LA drove up.
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It was really like a
religious pilgrimage.
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They were just the kings of
the original, original punk scene.
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Problem, problem, problem, problem...
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The Sex Pistols gave this,
like, slacker performance
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that wasn't compelling at all.
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Johnny Rotten, at the end of the show,
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said the famous quote of his.
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Ever get the feeling you've been cheated?
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Good night!
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You know, it was kind of like,
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"Oh, man, these guys were our
heroes, and they kind of suck."
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And it also felt like the first
wave of punk was sort of dying.
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It was time for some new
people to start doing something.
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I think that was the weekend
I actually got to know Margot,
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and then we started
talking about forming a band,
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a girl band, actually.
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Everybody was in a band.
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I mean, it was like the
cool thing to be in a band.
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And we were basically
the only people left
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that weren't in a band,
so we decided to do it too.
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I met Elissa.
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She was one of my high
school friend's cousins.
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Margot then met Belinda.
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The punk scene was so small,
so we all knew each other vaguely.
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Thinking about bands like The Shirelles
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and The Shangri-Las,
it was exciting to think
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we could do the new version of that.
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But this time, we were
going to play instruments.
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With one little problem?
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That we didn't know
how to play instruments.
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Well, I wanted to play bass
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and I knew I would
have to learn by doing.
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I didn't have drums, I had
to go out and find drums.
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You know, I had a couple of
weeks of folk guitar lessons
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when I was 12, I'll just play guitar.
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I certainly thought I could sing.
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I thought I sounded
like Julie Andrews. But...
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We can do what we want We can say...
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We didn't know what we were doing.
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In the punk scene it was like,
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"Great, you don't know what
you're doing? Just fucking do it."
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Charming, darling.
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We'd sort of been, like,
going over different names,
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nothing really seemed
right or whatever...
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Was it the Misfits, it was gonna be?
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Because that's how
we sort of felt at the time.
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At that time, The Kinks came
out with Misfits, the album.
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We thought, "No, everyone will
think, you know, we stole it from them."
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So, The Go-Go's seemed to fit us.
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I remember doing our first
show. It was at the Masque.
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Everyone was excited when
The Go-Go's played at the Masque.
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Their set was three songs long,
and two of them were the same song.
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We only knew those songs,
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so it wasn't a matter
of having a set list.
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We didn't need one.
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There's one song about Robert Hilburn
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who was a huge music
critic at the LA Times.
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Betcha think you're really smart
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We know better You're a boring fart
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New wave music makes good
copy Tell us Bob, could punk be art?
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People were either laughing
or completely mortified in horror.
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It was a big, fat mess.
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I wasn't really intimidated
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about being as terrible as
we were in the beginning.
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That was the whole point,
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you can sound horrible
and still make music.
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I think that deep down inside,
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we knew that we had
something really special,
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but we needed someone that
actually knew how to... do it.
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Let's try plugging the
amps into the wall first,
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like, you know what I mean?
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When I was very, very young,
like, first and second grade,
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I had an Elvis Presley record
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and Johann Strauss "Blue Danube" waltz.
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I would listen to both of them,
like put one on, dance around,
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put the other one on,
waltz around, you know...
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I started playing piano
when I was four years old.
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At a very young age, I
was moved by music.
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I had an ear for music.
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I went to Immaculate Heart
College, taking classical piano.
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I loved it, but it was
kind of snotty attitude,
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like, some of these students
were just like, "Who are you?"
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I started going to some
of the punk rock shows.
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The punk bands just busted me
open, knowing that all this music theory,
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rules, had to be thrown out the window.
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Don't talk to me
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When I graduated college,
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my best friend Joe
Ramirez and I started a band.
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We named it The Eyes.
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It was one of the most freeing
things just to turn up our amps to ten,
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bash through, and just anything went.
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Don't talk to me Don't look at me
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Don't talk to me, oh yeah
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Don't talk to me, don't
look at me Don't talk to me
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That is like a feminist anthem
for women of my generation.
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Margot and I went to an Eyes show
where we thought, "Oh, Charlotte!"
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Yeah
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We thought she was perfect.
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I'm backstage, and I see these
two sets of legs walking up.
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One has spikey heels,
ripped fishnets, a trash bag.
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That was Belinda.
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She said, "Hi, Charlotte.
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You know, we're starting this
all-girl band, do you wanna join?"
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And what am I gonna say, no?
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I was totally intimidated by them,
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because Jane and Belinda
and Margot, they're all like punks
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and they're asking me,
like the dork of all time,
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to, like, join their band. So,
I felt kind of special, I guess.
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When they asked, "Hey, do
you play lead guitar?" I lied.
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I figured I played bass so, you know,
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"Yeah, it's a couple
more strings, it'll be okay."
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We started rehearsing...
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but, you know...
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we were pretty crappy in the beginning.
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We really didn't sound that great.
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It was pretty screechy.
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I remember going into the
Masque one Saturday afternoon,
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hearing some music and thinking,
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"Oh, who's rehearsing down here today?"
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And then, opening a door
and seeing Belinda on stage
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holding a mic kind of awkwardly.
246
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I just thought, "Oh,
God, that's so great,
247
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women pulling together
to achieve something,"
248
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and I wanted to support
that cause and be part of it.
249
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I love communities of women.
250
00:15:14,914 --> 00:15:18,418
This band caught my
interest for that reason.
251
00:15:21,462 --> 00:15:23,464
This song's called "Fashion Seekers".
252
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Bland ideas in a borrowed head
253
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We saw no reason why we couldn't
be just as good as the boys or men.
254
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They'll suck the shirt
right off of your back
255
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We weren't going to be
anything but a great band.
256
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They were really on the fast
track, and they wanted to get going.
257
00:15:59,250 --> 00:16:03,004
And so, they weren't going to
let anything stand in their way.
258
00:16:05,673 --> 00:16:08,009
Elissa was very, very eccentric.
259
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I don't know if she
was shy or an introvert,
260
00:16:12,263 --> 00:16:14,515
but she was never
really part of the gang.
261
00:16:14,724 --> 00:16:16,476
She always held herself apart.
262
00:16:17,602 --> 00:16:19,770
I was coming from two different worlds.
263
00:16:20,730 --> 00:16:25,026
I had to answer to my employer,
and I had to answer to the band.
264
00:16:26,694 --> 00:16:29,739
And they wanted me
to quit my job, the girls,
265
00:16:29,947 --> 00:16:31,991
and be more dedicated.
266
00:16:32,158 --> 00:16:36,037
I stuck my toe in the water,
but I never dove in all the way.
267
00:16:36,871 --> 00:16:40,374
We definitely needed to bring
somebody in that wanted to be there.
268
00:16:41,542 --> 00:16:44,879
I happened to meet the girls
at a party one night, and...
269
00:16:45,046 --> 00:16:48,007
That's how it started,
I invited 'em over for...
270
00:16:48,216 --> 00:16:49,716
They said, "We're looking for a drummer."
271
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"Oh, we're looking for a drummer."
272
00:16:51,636 --> 00:16:54,180
And I said, "Great.
I'll try out for the band."
273
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One, two, three, four
274
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The amps are set up, they
bring their guitars, plug in,
275
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we play like three songs,
and it was like... done deal.
276
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I buy cologne
277
00:17:06,776 --> 00:17:10,196
Holy shit! I don't even know
how to describe the difference.
278
00:17:10,404 --> 00:17:13,491
It was really, like, ta-da!
279
00:17:14,617 --> 00:17:16,410
I need promises...
280
00:17:17,370 --> 00:17:20,289
The next thing I know, they
found this other drummer.
281
00:17:20,748 --> 00:17:23,417
I was very upset and hurt.
282
00:17:24,293 --> 00:17:27,129
When you kick people out
of bands, it's fucking tough.
283
00:17:27,547 --> 00:17:30,097
But at the time, these
things just seemed necessary,
284
00:17:30,258 --> 00:17:32,385
and they seemed for the good of the band.
285
00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:34,178
When she was 13,
286
00:17:34,345 --> 00:17:37,515
she would come home from
school, go up into the front bedroom,
287
00:17:37,848 --> 00:17:40,685
put the earphones on
and bang on the drums.
288
00:17:41,519 --> 00:17:43,819
A lot of girls weren't
playing drums back then,
289
00:17:43,980 --> 00:17:46,107
and so I got in a band right away.
290
00:17:46,691 --> 00:17:49,318
We were Baltimore's
first new wave punk band.
291
00:17:49,527 --> 00:17:50,653
We had a lot of fun,
292
00:17:50,861 --> 00:17:53,948
but at that point I was like,
"I want to play in arenas."
293
00:17:54,156 --> 00:17:56,806
"I don't want to stay playing
in clubs my whole life."
294
00:17:58,286 --> 00:18:00,037
When I left Baltimore I told everybody,
295
00:18:00,121 --> 00:18:02,721
"The next time you see
me, I'm gonna be a rock star."
296
00:18:03,332 --> 00:18:06,502
I drove across country
with a dream and a camera.
297
00:18:06,711 --> 00:18:08,511
I was, like, always taking pictures.
298
00:18:12,008 --> 00:18:14,510
I had 2000 dollars and two grams of coke.
299
00:18:18,848 --> 00:18:20,557
I remember the first time I met Gina,
300
00:18:20,641 --> 00:18:23,641
she had this frizzy blonde hair
and she was wearing overalls.
301
00:18:23,728 --> 00:18:26,856
She looked crazy, and I
was like, "I'm going to fix you."
302
00:18:27,273 --> 00:18:29,673
She needed a little bit
of, you know, punking up.
303
00:18:31,193 --> 00:18:34,822
So, we cut her hair, dyed
it black, and she was ready.
304
00:18:36,741 --> 00:18:38,909
Then, I was into taking just Polaroids.
305
00:18:41,662 --> 00:18:44,749
The punk scene allowed you
to be whoever you wanted to be,
306
00:18:44,915 --> 00:18:48,215
play the way you wanted to play,
and you fit in. You were accepted.
307
00:18:51,047 --> 00:18:54,008
Being in that setting made me feel safe.
308
00:18:55,885 --> 00:18:58,596
And it just allowed us a lot more freedom
309
00:18:58,888 --> 00:19:00,514
to do what we wanted to do.
310
00:19:02,350 --> 00:19:03,643
It's like a dream...
311
00:19:04,977 --> 00:19:06,427
only you're really living it.
312
00:19:09,023 --> 00:19:14,320
Jane was just so cute and sweet
and bubbly, and her little voice.
313
00:19:14,737 --> 00:19:17,447
We both had crushes on each
other, I guess you could say,
314
00:19:17,531 --> 00:19:19,331
but we were girlfriends for a while.
315
00:19:20,951 --> 00:19:24,101
She was the boss in the
relationship, I was the new kid in town,
316
00:19:24,288 --> 00:19:26,457
and it made me feel comfortable.
317
00:19:29,001 --> 00:19:30,419
Jane broke up with me.
318
00:19:36,550 --> 00:19:39,595
It wasn't like either one of us
were heartbroken or anything.
319
00:19:39,804 --> 00:19:43,933
You think something like that's
going to fuck with the band? No way.
320
00:19:44,141 --> 00:19:46,602
One, two, G-O, G-O
321
00:19:47,853 --> 00:19:50,773
What Gina brought, besides
being a really amazing drummer,
322
00:19:50,940 --> 00:19:52,900
is that she made us work hard.
323
00:19:53,317 --> 00:19:57,113
She said, "You guys have to
rehearse every single night."
324
00:19:57,279 --> 00:19:59,729
And we're just like, "What
are you talking about?"
325
00:20:00,074 --> 00:20:03,024
Hey, it doesn't hurt to rehearse,
it only makes you tighter.
326
00:20:03,744 --> 00:20:07,039
I mean, I was determined
to whip them into shape.
327
00:20:09,041 --> 00:20:12,294
Because I felt there was
something magical there.
328
00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:14,630
You just needed to push it more.
329
00:20:14,797 --> 00:20:17,132
You needed to get the girls to
be more focused and more serious
330
00:20:17,216 --> 00:20:18,466
about what they're doing.
331
00:20:19,427 --> 00:20:20,428
She was right.
332
00:20:20,928 --> 00:20:27,309
We improved, and it pushed us
to another level. And I was on fire!
333
00:20:30,563 --> 00:20:34,483
I was sitting at home,
it was about midnight,
334
00:20:34,692 --> 00:20:36,610
I was watching The Twilight Zone.
335
00:20:36,819 --> 00:20:38,529
You're flying to a new planet,
336
00:20:38,738 --> 00:20:42,199
a planet of light, of
darkness and the in-between.
337
00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:48,080
I wanted to write a song, and I was
listening to the music all day long.
338
00:20:48,539 --> 00:20:50,582
I really wanted to write
something with a beat.
339
00:20:50,666 --> 00:20:52,585
I was hearing something in my mind.
340
00:20:53,961 --> 00:20:56,311
I was just sitting there
minding my own business
341
00:20:57,298 --> 00:20:59,258
and all of a sudden this whole melody,
342
00:20:59,425 --> 00:21:04,096
this whole idea came to my
mind, and I was like, "Oh, shit."
343
00:21:04,597 --> 00:21:06,766
I ran and got my little cassette player.
344
00:21:08,684 --> 00:21:10,269
And I wrote the song,
345
00:21:10,436 --> 00:21:12,736
it was like five minutes,
it just all came out.
346
00:21:13,481 --> 00:21:14,940
The zone of writing,
347
00:21:15,441 --> 00:21:18,591
I don't know what happens, but
I can get to that place and boom,
348
00:21:18,694 --> 00:21:21,894
just these ideas just start
flowing and it's like, it's pretty...
349
00:21:22,364 --> 00:21:24,064
pretty phenomenal when it happens.
350
00:21:26,368 --> 00:21:30,414
Back then, I didn't
have a sense of myself.
351
00:21:31,373 --> 00:21:36,378
Songwriting was so important to
me, it was my identity, my safety zone.
352
00:21:38,714 --> 00:21:42,092
And so, with "We Got
the Beat", I was terrified.
353
00:21:42,259 --> 00:21:45,011
I was thinking, "Man, these girls are
going to throw me out of this band,"
354
00:21:45,095 --> 00:21:46,430
'cause it was a pop song.
355
00:21:48,432 --> 00:21:51,268
See the people walking down the street
356
00:21:51,435 --> 00:21:53,645
I don't remember her being
nervous, I just remember thinking
357
00:21:53,729 --> 00:21:56,941
it was an amazing song. I
mean, it's just so obvious.
358
00:21:58,692 --> 00:22:00,361
We all loved it right away.
359
00:22:00,569 --> 00:22:03,030
They got the beat, they got the beat
360
00:22:03,239 --> 00:22:04,990
They got the beat
361
00:22:07,451 --> 00:22:09,751
When she started
playing that eighth-note riff,
362
00:22:09,954 --> 00:22:13,354
the pattern that I play on the
drums just poured out of me. It was...
363
00:22:13,624 --> 00:22:15,124
I knew it was gonna be like...
364
00:22:18,003 --> 00:22:19,588
I felt like we had arrived.
365
00:22:19,797 --> 00:22:22,883
It was definitely another
step up that ladder.
366
00:22:23,676 --> 00:22:25,803
Fortunately, they just loved it.
367
00:22:32,768 --> 00:22:36,063
And I believe that changed
the trajectory of the band.
368
00:22:46,073 --> 00:22:48,826
Go-Go music really makes us dance
369
00:22:49,034 --> 00:22:51,077
We were rough sounding
when we played live,
370
00:22:51,161 --> 00:22:53,811
but we had these songs
that were just coming together.
371
00:22:56,542 --> 00:22:59,753
Just doing those little shows,
it was a really cool time.
372
00:23:00,421 --> 00:23:02,590
We were the house band at the Whisky.
373
00:23:04,341 --> 00:23:07,177
So, we would open up for whatever
bands would come into town.
374
00:23:07,261 --> 00:23:08,637
Madness came into town
375
00:23:08,804 --> 00:23:11,104
and they were English,
you know, we loved that.
376
00:23:12,057 --> 00:23:16,270
All-girl band writing their own
tunes? I mean, outrageous!
377
00:23:16,604 --> 00:23:18,063
Yeah, we got it!
378
00:23:19,815 --> 00:23:21,400
We got the beat
379
00:23:21,609 --> 00:23:23,277
Come on, don't be too cool.
380
00:23:23,444 --> 00:23:26,030
They thought we were
great and they went back
381
00:23:26,196 --> 00:23:28,407
and spread the word about The Go-Go's.
382
00:23:28,949 --> 00:23:32,286
And then The Specials
came, and we opened for them.
383
00:23:32,828 --> 00:23:34,955
One of the best things that
happened for The Go-Go's
384
00:23:35,039 --> 00:23:36,707
was meeting us, you know?
385
00:23:36,874 --> 00:23:40,252
And I would say one of the
best things happened to us
386
00:23:40,419 --> 00:23:41,712
was meeting The Go-Go's.
387
00:23:45,633 --> 00:23:49,303
They were young, they were
fresh, they were beautiful.
388
00:23:50,054 --> 00:23:53,182
We are a bunch of misfits,
of course, that's why it works!
389
00:23:54,850 --> 00:23:56,685
Their manager started talking with Ginger
390
00:23:56,769 --> 00:24:00,481
about how to bring us over to England
so we could tour with both bands.
391
00:24:01,482 --> 00:24:03,782
Somebody from The
Specials came to me and said,
392
00:24:03,943 --> 00:24:06,278
"We're planning a
seaside tour in England.
393
00:24:06,487 --> 00:24:09,657
Do you think your band might
be able to get over there?"
394
00:24:10,074 --> 00:24:11,283
And I said, "Yes!"
395
00:24:12,743 --> 00:24:16,872
I did a lot of pawning of
jewelry and selling a lot of things
396
00:24:17,081 --> 00:24:19,667
to be able to get the
girls over on that trip.
397
00:24:21,168 --> 00:24:25,422
She sold everything. Her car...
She put her whole life on sale
398
00:24:25,589 --> 00:24:28,133
basically to fund us to get to London.
399
00:24:29,843 --> 00:24:32,096
My dad was in the entertainment industry,
400
00:24:32,304 --> 00:24:35,641
but he was not behind
me being in this band.
401
00:24:36,517 --> 00:24:41,772
He said, "Hey, there's an opening
at the music library at Paramount."
402
00:24:43,065 --> 00:24:47,069
I remember it was like
a really good-paying job,
403
00:24:47,444 --> 00:24:49,697
and I just said to
him, I said, "I can't,"
404
00:24:49,905 --> 00:24:55,285
because inside of me, I had to
leave. I had to do this, I had to do it.
405
00:24:57,871 --> 00:25:02,251
Seen your pictures in the
'zines And you look real good
406
00:25:02,418 --> 00:25:04,795
Pale, blank faces Black and white keen
407
00:25:04,962 --> 00:25:06,797
London boys, cigarette lean
408
00:25:07,006 --> 00:25:09,341
London boys, wish you were here
409
00:25:09,508 --> 00:25:11,635
Because the punk rock
scene had started in England,
410
00:25:11,719 --> 00:25:13,969
all the bands that we
worshipped were English.
411
00:25:14,054 --> 00:25:19,476
I mean, England was always, for
us, ground zero of great rock music.
412
00:25:20,060 --> 00:25:21,311
It was like Mecca!
413
00:25:24,857 --> 00:25:26,775
When The Go-Go's come over here,
414
00:25:26,984 --> 00:25:29,611
walking around the city
is just really, really bleak.
415
00:25:30,195 --> 00:25:33,907
Shite, absolutely grim, grey.
416
00:25:34,616 --> 00:25:36,994
It wasn't a very nice place to be.
417
00:25:37,161 --> 00:25:40,789
There seemed to be an air of,
"Something's about to go off."
418
00:25:40,956 --> 00:25:45,419
We're living in gangster times
419
00:25:45,919 --> 00:25:47,880
Don't call me Scarface!
420
00:25:48,881 --> 00:25:51,884
The Specials and Madness
were both ska bands,
421
00:25:52,092 --> 00:25:53,802
and they were stars.
422
00:25:55,095 --> 00:25:58,390
We felt like having these
opening slots with two bands
423
00:25:58,557 --> 00:26:01,810
that were at the top of their game,
and were very, very successful there,
424
00:26:01,894 --> 00:26:04,313
that, I mean, how could we fail?
425
00:26:08,358 --> 00:26:12,571
It was our first time touring in a
tour bus and playing every night.
426
00:26:12,780 --> 00:26:16,116
The street lights are shining bright
427
00:26:17,367 --> 00:26:20,370
The billboards are shedding their light
428
00:26:22,164 --> 00:26:24,458
My crowd's hanging around
429
00:26:24,666 --> 00:26:28,962
We were being spit at, stuff
thrown at us every single night.
430
00:26:30,297 --> 00:26:33,217
Ska music attracted a
bunch of the white nationalists,
431
00:26:33,383 --> 00:26:36,011
they called themselves the
National Front in England.
432
00:26:36,303 --> 00:26:38,347
And they hated us.
433
00:26:39,431 --> 00:26:41,058
First of all, we were not ska,
434
00:26:41,225 --> 00:26:43,935
So what the hell were we doing
opening for these ska bands?
435
00:26:44,019 --> 00:26:45,854
Second of all, we're Americans.
436
00:26:46,105 --> 00:26:48,857
And third of all, maybe
worst of all, we were chicks.
437
00:26:53,278 --> 00:26:54,738
No, we don't do that...
438
00:26:56,698 --> 00:26:59,659
You know here are these five
little girls from southern California,
439
00:26:59,743 --> 00:27:03,080
get up on stage and play
to these scary skinheads.
440
00:27:03,455 --> 00:27:04,790
It was frightening.
441
00:27:05,332 --> 00:27:08,544
One venue, a fella was
standing people in a line
442
00:27:09,169 --> 00:27:12,631
with a razor, and another
fella with a hammer.
443
00:27:14,716 --> 00:27:17,678
The tours were not
going at all like we thought
444
00:27:17,845 --> 00:27:19,179
they were going to go.
445
00:27:19,763 --> 00:27:22,913
But at the same time, we were
also having the time of our lives.
446
00:27:24,143 --> 00:27:27,271
There was a lot of romances
going on between the band members.
447
00:27:27,688 --> 00:27:30,273
But it was good 'cause we
all had boyfriends in Madness
448
00:27:30,357 --> 00:27:33,318
or The Specials to console
us when we got off stage.
449
00:27:35,028 --> 00:27:36,613
Gina is one... I love her.
450
00:27:37,447 --> 00:27:39,741
"I just didn't know how to
come and approach you."
451
00:27:39,825 --> 00:27:41,076
"I should've asked you to marry me,
452
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:42,660
and you probably would've said no,
453
00:27:42,744 --> 00:27:44,579
"but I'd have felt better
that I had asked." You know?
454
00:27:44,663 --> 00:27:47,416
We had such a good
laugh. Oh, she's lovely she is.
455
00:27:49,710 --> 00:27:52,880
I met Terry. He was in The Specials.
456
00:27:53,547 --> 00:27:55,632
We were very attracted to each other.
457
00:27:56,216 --> 00:27:58,176
We spent a lot of time
together on the tour
458
00:27:58,260 --> 00:28:01,763
and it was kind of sort of a romance,
but, I mean, he had a girlfriend,
459
00:28:01,930 --> 00:28:04,724
and supposedly, she was a fiancée
and they were going to get married.
460
00:28:04,808 --> 00:28:06,658
And I don't know what I was thinking.
461
00:28:07,644 --> 00:28:10,594
You know, I just thought it
was this big, important romance.
462
00:28:15,027 --> 00:28:18,363
Behind the scenes, I was
bringing their cassette tapes around.
463
00:28:18,780 --> 00:28:20,830
Stiff Records might've
been a small label,
464
00:28:20,991 --> 00:28:23,243
but they had a group of dedicated people.
465
00:28:24,828 --> 00:28:28,040
I think Ginger asked us whether
we would like to sign them,
466
00:28:28,540 --> 00:28:31,001
but I thought an American punk girl band
467
00:28:31,168 --> 00:28:33,587
who are objecting to being spit at...
468
00:28:33,754 --> 00:28:36,798
I don't know that it's
going to really work.
469
00:28:37,507 --> 00:28:41,428
But I remember seeing "We've
Got the Beat" as a potential single,
470
00:28:41,595 --> 00:28:45,641
which was my talent,
to find the door opener.
471
00:28:46,934 --> 00:28:50,771
I tried to publish the song, 'cause
I could see that it would do well.
472
00:28:50,938 --> 00:28:56,109
They were really pressuring about
the publishing, and I had been told
473
00:28:56,276 --> 00:28:58,111
that that was something
you don't give up.
474
00:28:58,195 --> 00:29:01,740
Ginger, I think, was a
bit more knowledgeable
475
00:29:01,907 --> 00:29:04,409
about the idea of, "Hold
onto what you've got."
476
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:09,331
Thank dog she knew an artist
needs to keep their publishing,
477
00:29:09,539 --> 00:29:13,252
because, really, it's one of
the only ways to make money,
478
00:29:13,418 --> 00:29:16,168
and it's very valuable and
it's valuable for a lifetime.
479
00:29:17,047 --> 00:29:19,633
Well, I stuck to my guns and signed this
480
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:23,011
one-single deal with Stiff Records.
481
00:29:28,141 --> 00:29:31,311
"Friday, June 6th in Bridlington."
482
00:29:32,271 --> 00:29:36,149
"Tonight was okay, the audience
were rude, but we played fair."
483
00:29:36,358 --> 00:29:38,360
Bridlington was pretty shitty.
484
00:29:38,860 --> 00:29:41,363
"Oh, well, I guess we'll try harder".
485
00:29:43,865 --> 00:29:47,015
We were just determined, like,
"We're gonna show those fuckers."
486
00:29:47,369 --> 00:29:48,703
Every night, we'd get on stage
487
00:29:48,787 --> 00:29:51,957
and we would be so
belligerent with our playing,
488
00:29:52,291 --> 00:29:55,085
and just being even more of who we were.
489
00:29:56,128 --> 00:29:58,505
And you're the one to blame
490
00:29:58,714 --> 00:30:01,008
I used to know my name
491
00:30:01,216 --> 00:30:04,720
But I've lost control of the game
492
00:30:06,054 --> 00:30:08,557
'Cause even though I set the rules
493
00:30:08,724 --> 00:30:11,310
You've got me acting like a fool
494
00:30:11,476 --> 00:30:13,854
They were really wild, crazy audiences,
495
00:30:14,062 --> 00:30:16,398
but we made fans, as well.
496
00:30:16,606 --> 00:30:17,816
Lust to love
497
00:30:18,025 --> 00:30:20,152
Was the last thing I was dreaming of
498
00:30:20,694 --> 00:30:23,113
And now all I want is just to love
499
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:26,199
Lust turned to love
500
00:30:26,450 --> 00:30:29,119
They're grew, they proved themselves,
501
00:30:29,286 --> 00:30:31,336
and for The Go-Go's,
to pick themselves up
502
00:30:31,496 --> 00:30:33,896
and leave from LA and
come to London, you know...
503
00:30:33,999 --> 00:30:36,668
Wow! Respect to them
girls, man, you know?
504
00:30:38,211 --> 00:30:41,340
Their musicianship, compared
to us, was second to none.
505
00:30:42,215 --> 00:30:43,715
They taught me a thing or two.
506
00:30:46,136 --> 00:30:47,429
Lust to love
507
00:30:47,679 --> 00:30:50,682
There was nothing much that
we couldn't handle at that point.
508
00:30:51,266 --> 00:30:52,476
Just to love
509
00:30:52,684 --> 00:30:55,645
Lust turned to love
510
00:30:56,063 --> 00:30:57,522
Lust to love
511
00:30:59,024 --> 00:31:00,692
It was us against the world,
512
00:31:01,068 --> 00:31:03,945
and I think we were ready
to take it to the next level.
513
00:31:09,576 --> 00:31:13,914
Our Stiff Records single was
the key that unlocked the door.
514
00:31:15,374 --> 00:31:18,293
People were able to buy
the single in Los Angeles.
515
00:31:20,128 --> 00:31:24,174
KROQ-AM in Burbank
and KROQ-FM in Pasadena,
516
00:31:24,466 --> 00:31:26,385
we're live on the Roqs.
517
00:31:27,219 --> 00:31:29,369
Okay, here's The
Go-Go's, "We Got the Beat."
518
00:31:29,846 --> 00:31:31,556
When we did come back it was like...
519
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,340
"The triumphant return of
the home girls, The Go-Go's!"
520
00:31:35,602 --> 00:31:37,852
Everyone thought we
were huge stars in England
521
00:31:37,979 --> 00:31:40,329
and we were not telling
them anything different.
522
00:31:40,732 --> 00:31:42,943
I remember doing our first show
523
00:31:43,193 --> 00:31:45,779
after we got back at the Starwood.
524
00:31:46,238 --> 00:31:48,906
There were kids wrapped
around the block to get in to see us.
525
00:31:48,990 --> 00:31:50,784
We were like, "Whoa, what happened?"
526
00:31:50,951 --> 00:31:52,551
And I guess our strategy worked.
527
00:32:02,087 --> 00:32:05,632
I was in the Starwood one night,
and The Go-Go's were playing
528
00:32:05,799 --> 00:32:08,009
and they had been in England.
529
00:32:08,510 --> 00:32:11,263
Go-Go music really makes us dance
530
00:32:11,430 --> 00:32:15,016
It was packed and
everyone was going crazy.
531
00:32:15,934 --> 00:32:17,894
That's when they got
more of my attention.
532
00:32:17,978 --> 00:32:19,771
I thought, "Okay, they're going places."
533
00:32:19,855 --> 00:32:22,691
'Cause we got the beat, we got the beat
534
00:32:22,899 --> 00:32:25,193
We got the beat
535
00:32:25,402 --> 00:32:27,487
Yeah, we got it
536
00:32:29,197 --> 00:32:30,323
We got the beat
537
00:32:30,532 --> 00:32:33,243
The difference from before
that tour and after the tour
538
00:32:33,410 --> 00:32:35,120
was just stunning.
539
00:32:35,287 --> 00:32:36,413
We got the beat
540
00:32:36,580 --> 00:32:40,208
I was like, "Oh, my God,
this is going to be huge."
541
00:32:40,667 --> 00:32:42,377
- We got the beat - We got the beat
542
00:32:42,544 --> 00:32:43,545
We got the beat
543
00:32:43,753 --> 00:32:45,714
- We got the beat - We got the beat
544
00:32:45,922 --> 00:32:47,716
- We got the beat - We got the beat
545
00:32:47,924 --> 00:32:49,176
We got the beat
546
00:32:52,220 --> 00:32:54,097
People would freak out when we played.
547
00:32:54,181 --> 00:32:55,265
It was great.
548
00:32:55,432 --> 00:32:58,351
I mean, we felt like we
were at the top of our game,
549
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:00,687
and yet we couldn't get anywhere with it.
550
00:33:07,486 --> 00:33:09,486
I had a file folder of rejection letters
551
00:33:09,613 --> 00:33:12,240
from record labels in Los Angeles.
552
00:33:12,407 --> 00:33:15,911
"Thanks, but you know, all-girl
bands just don't sell records."
553
00:33:16,912 --> 00:33:19,956
They wouldn't sign us we
were told because we were girls,
554
00:33:20,123 --> 00:33:22,834
and there'd been no predecessor
that had been that successful.
555
00:33:22,918 --> 00:33:24,218
There'd been The Runaways,
556
00:33:24,336 --> 00:33:28,173
but we put ourselves
together, we had no Svengali.
557
00:33:28,965 --> 00:33:30,217
It was ridiculous.
558
00:33:30,717 --> 00:33:33,167
Okay, we were girls, but
look at what we're doing.
559
00:33:34,554 --> 00:33:36,431
You know, close your eyes and listen.
560
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:40,519
I know a cat who can
really do the cool jerk
561
00:33:40,727 --> 00:33:43,312
Through the years I've been
asked, "Were you feminists?"
562
00:33:43,396 --> 00:33:47,526
We were, I realize it now,
because of our attitudes,
563
00:33:47,734 --> 00:33:48,777
but we weren't,
564
00:33:49,027 --> 00:33:52,277
"We're going to do this against
the guys and you know, fuck them,"
565
00:33:52,489 --> 00:33:54,198
that kind of thing. We
weren't like that at all.
566
00:33:54,282 --> 00:33:56,282
When they see me walking down the street
567
00:33:56,368 --> 00:33:57,994
We thought anything was possible,
568
00:33:58,078 --> 00:34:01,706
including succeeding in that
industry that was run by men.
569
00:34:01,915 --> 00:34:06,044
They know I'm the queen of the cool jerk
570
00:34:06,253 --> 00:34:07,921
Oh cool jerk
571
00:34:08,129 --> 00:34:09,839
Knowing about being a woman in a band
572
00:34:09,923 --> 00:34:12,676
and how many obstacles
they'd had to face...
573
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,764
That the response
isn't, "I'm going to quit."
574
00:34:17,931 --> 00:34:19,224
Bring it down!
575
00:34:22,018 --> 00:34:24,980
It's, "Thank you, assholes,
for telling me I can't do this,
576
00:34:25,146 --> 00:34:28,346
thanks for the inspiration, now
watch me get my next hit single."
577
00:34:35,782 --> 00:34:37,826
After we got home from England,
578
00:34:38,577 --> 00:34:41,078
I would move back and forth
from my parents' all the time
579
00:34:41,162 --> 00:34:42,612
because I'd run out of money.
580
00:34:44,666 --> 00:34:46,418
Terry stayed in touch.
581
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:48,920
He would send me
letters, and in one letter
582
00:34:49,004 --> 00:34:51,506
he talked about how he
dreamed of having his own band.
583
00:34:51,590 --> 00:34:53,800
And he sent me a bunch of lyrics.
584
00:34:53,967 --> 00:34:56,469
And he said, "I'm going
to write these songs."
585
00:34:57,887 --> 00:34:59,639
Can you hear them?
586
00:35:00,348 --> 00:35:02,475
Talking about us
587
00:35:02,642 --> 00:35:05,562
Telling lies Well, that's no surprise
588
00:35:05,729 --> 00:35:07,314
Can you see them?
589
00:35:07,564 --> 00:35:10,775
I saw the lyrical beginning
to "Our Lips Are Sealed."
590
00:35:10,984 --> 00:35:14,529
They have no shield No secrets to reveal
591
00:35:14,821 --> 00:35:17,824
It doesn't matter what they say
592
00:35:18,366 --> 00:35:22,912
In the jealous games people play
593
00:35:24,789 --> 00:35:26,875
Our lips are sealed
594
00:35:27,250 --> 00:35:28,751
And even though I'd
gotten a little bit lazy
595
00:35:28,835 --> 00:35:31,462
about writing music, because
Charlotte was so good at it,
596
00:35:31,546 --> 00:35:33,839
I figured, why should I
bother, I'll just do lyrics.
597
00:35:33,923 --> 00:35:36,760
But this time, I actually
went back to writing music.
598
00:35:37,927 --> 00:35:41,389
Hush, my darling
599
00:35:41,890 --> 00:35:45,101
Don't you cry
600
00:35:45,769 --> 00:35:49,272
Quiet, angel
601
00:35:49,564 --> 00:35:51,816
Forget their lies
602
00:35:51,983 --> 00:35:53,526
I just thought it was such a good song.
603
00:35:53,610 --> 00:35:55,070
I was so in love with it.
604
00:35:55,236 --> 00:35:57,238
I didn't show it to the
band for weeks and weeks,
605
00:35:57,322 --> 00:35:59,156
'cause I was so afraid
if they didn't like it,
606
00:35:59,240 --> 00:36:01,368
what was I gonna do? I was gonna die.
607
00:36:02,702 --> 00:36:05,163
I remember hearing
that song for the first time.
608
00:36:05,330 --> 00:36:06,747
I was completely blown away with it.
609
00:36:06,831 --> 00:36:08,083
No secrets to reveal
610
00:36:08,249 --> 00:36:12,087
Because of Jane's not being
a trained musician and writer,
611
00:36:12,253 --> 00:36:14,505
the chord progression
in that song is so unusual.
612
00:36:14,589 --> 00:36:16,758
...people play
613
00:36:16,925 --> 00:36:18,259
It really got your attention.
614
00:36:18,343 --> 00:36:20,136
Our lips are sealed
615
00:36:21,304 --> 00:36:23,848
Pay no mind to what they say
616
00:36:24,057 --> 00:36:26,810
We started writing more melodic songs...
617
00:36:28,311 --> 00:36:31,106
and we got this hybrid of pop and punk.
618
00:36:31,314 --> 00:36:34,275
- Hush now darling - Our lips are sealed
619
00:36:34,484 --> 00:36:36,236
Hush now...
620
00:36:39,072 --> 00:36:41,822
It was changing, and some
people didn't like the change.
621
00:36:44,077 --> 00:36:47,580
My identity is punk... I was
so absorbed in the scene,
622
00:36:47,789 --> 00:36:51,918
it was my life, my
lifestyle, my everything.
623
00:36:52,544 --> 00:36:55,004
Oh, yeah, Margot, fuck,
man, yeah, she hated it.
624
00:36:55,171 --> 00:36:57,674
She's like, "I don't want
to be a fucking pop band!
625
00:36:57,841 --> 00:36:59,384
I'm in a punk band."
626
00:36:59,843 --> 00:37:02,554
And I don't know, I think
the rest of us were like...
627
00:37:03,471 --> 00:37:04,681
"This is evolving,
628
00:37:04,889 --> 00:37:07,892
so fucking get with it
or get out." I don't know.
629
00:37:08,643 --> 00:37:11,187
You know, it wasn't just the music,
630
00:37:11,396 --> 00:37:15,817
it was the sense of being
packaged into a product.
631
00:37:17,902 --> 00:37:21,448
It was just becoming less
about art and more about money.
632
00:37:22,991 --> 00:37:25,952
I just felt like, well what
the fuck are you doing it for?
633
00:37:26,327 --> 00:37:28,871
To stay with a following of a
couple of thousand people?
634
00:37:28,955 --> 00:37:31,207
Or do you want to have
people all over this country
635
00:37:31,291 --> 00:37:33,250
know your music and
know your songwriting,
636
00:37:33,334 --> 00:37:35,545
know what kind of musician you are?
637
00:37:38,047 --> 00:37:42,177
We had shows over New
Year's Eve at the Whisky,
638
00:37:42,552 --> 00:37:44,929
and Margot had
gotten really, really sick.
639
00:37:45,138 --> 00:37:47,599
So, we had to scramble
around and find someone.
640
00:37:50,018 --> 00:37:53,521
Kathy, I met at the Whisky-a-Go-Go.
641
00:37:54,522 --> 00:37:56,232
I was approached by Charlotte
642
00:37:56,399 --> 00:37:59,611
and asked if I could
play bass, and I said yes.
643
00:37:59,778 --> 00:38:01,070
It was a big lie.
644
00:38:01,696 --> 00:38:04,991
I figured, I've been playing
guitar five or six years,
645
00:38:05,158 --> 00:38:06,826
why can't I play a bass?
646
00:38:07,535 --> 00:38:08,912
So, I go home.
647
00:38:09,537 --> 00:38:12,916
First thing in the morning, I
borrow a bass from somebody.
648
00:38:13,124 --> 00:38:16,211
Charlotte came over. She
brought me a little cassette.
649
00:38:16,419 --> 00:38:17,420
She left.
650
00:38:18,797 --> 00:38:21,257
I plugged my bass into my guitar amp.
651
00:38:23,009 --> 00:38:24,969
Feels weird, I use my pick.
652
00:38:29,349 --> 00:38:32,049
I start listening, I can't
hear, it's a rehearsal tape.
653
00:38:32,185 --> 00:38:33,285
It sounds, you know...
654
00:38:35,980 --> 00:38:37,607
You know, I'm like, "Shit."
655
00:38:41,069 --> 00:38:43,780
First thing I have to do is
learn on guitar the chords,
656
00:38:43,947 --> 00:38:45,448
because I can't hear.
657
00:38:48,326 --> 00:38:51,120
Then I started picking
up some of the bass parts.
658
00:38:51,996 --> 00:38:53,706
What I could make out I learned,
659
00:38:53,873 --> 00:38:56,876
what I couldn't make out
I just made up my own.
660
00:39:01,756 --> 00:39:04,425
I played it over and over.
661
00:39:05,844 --> 00:39:07,387
I'm a perfectionist, you know.
662
00:39:09,472 --> 00:39:11,975
The only way to do it
as much as I was doing it
663
00:39:12,183 --> 00:39:15,395
was to get pharmaceutical help.
664
00:39:20,024 --> 00:39:23,027
I basically learned all
their songs on a coke binge.
665
00:39:32,829 --> 00:39:35,123
Charlotte came over
to see how it was going.
666
00:39:35,999 --> 00:39:38,049
I went to her house.
She was kind of like,
667
00:39:38,167 --> 00:39:41,004
in the middle of a
three-day bender on coke,
668
00:39:41,170 --> 00:39:43,423
and I'd never met anyone like that.
669
00:39:43,590 --> 00:39:45,216
And I thought, "Wow, my God."
670
00:39:46,634 --> 00:39:48,970
She was a badass musician.
671
00:39:49,387 --> 00:39:53,057
She learned those songs
on bass in, like, a couple days,
672
00:39:53,266 --> 00:39:54,475
and she had never played bass.
673
00:39:54,559 --> 00:39:56,060
By the time I'd learned those songs,
674
00:39:56,144 --> 00:39:57,744
I just wanted to be in the band.
675
00:39:58,146 --> 00:39:59,606
In case you haven't noticed,
676
00:39:59,772 --> 00:40:02,859
we have a bass player
filling in for Margot, she's sick,
677
00:40:03,067 --> 00:40:04,277
and her name's Kathy.
678
00:40:04,485 --> 00:40:06,487
Kathy Valentine, yeah.
679
00:40:08,406 --> 00:40:12,410
In came Kathy Valentine
like a knight in shining armor.
680
00:40:14,787 --> 00:40:17,916
I got to be there with
the sold-out shows.
681
00:40:19,500 --> 00:40:23,755
It was everything that I had been
looking for since I started playing.
682
00:40:25,548 --> 00:40:26,966
I'm an only child,
683
00:40:27,467 --> 00:40:30,136
and it was just me and
my mom when I was raised.
684
00:40:30,720 --> 00:40:35,099
I really liked the idea
of a band being a family.
685
00:40:36,559 --> 00:40:39,609
Right away, I just felt like
these are going to be my sisters.
686
00:40:39,812 --> 00:40:41,397
Something just felt right,
687
00:40:41,606 --> 00:40:43,733
it just felt like, "We're here."
688
00:40:43,942 --> 00:40:46,527
Last night you slept, you slept in fits
689
00:40:46,778 --> 00:40:48,487
You smashed your windows bit by bit
690
00:40:48,571 --> 00:40:50,490
They wanted me, and I wanted them,
691
00:40:50,949 --> 00:40:53,576
and I guess it's a lot like cheaters,
692
00:40:53,743 --> 00:40:56,412
you know, people having affairs.
693
00:40:58,039 --> 00:41:00,458
I remember Margot being true to herself
694
00:41:00,625 --> 00:41:02,335
and very authentic.
695
00:41:03,086 --> 00:41:05,588
She wanted to remain a
punk band but we didn't,
696
00:41:05,838 --> 00:41:07,966
so we just...
697
00:41:08,424 --> 00:41:11,219
decided it was best
to carry on without her.
698
00:41:13,096 --> 00:41:15,682
I was told I had to
do the firing, because,
699
00:41:15,848 --> 00:41:18,643
"You're the manager,
Ginger, you've got to do it."
700
00:41:18,851 --> 00:41:22,563
Because none of them
had the guts to do it.
701
00:41:25,358 --> 00:41:28,778
It was a shock to get a
phone call from Ginger.
702
00:41:29,487 --> 00:41:32,865
"You're out of the band. The
girls didn't want to tell you."
703
00:41:33,324 --> 00:41:37,453
It was a decision that they
had made, and that was it.
704
00:41:39,205 --> 00:41:44,794
It was something I'd worked
so hard for, and with friends.
705
00:41:45,378 --> 00:41:48,798
People ask me, "How do
you deal with such betrayal?"
706
00:41:49,173 --> 00:41:51,426
In our little scene in LA,
707
00:41:51,592 --> 00:41:54,303
there was lots of gossip and
lots of people talking about us,
708
00:41:54,387 --> 00:41:55,555
and not in a good way.
709
00:41:55,805 --> 00:41:59,142
We had fired Margot, we had sold out,
710
00:41:59,392 --> 00:42:03,646
we weren't a punk
band, we were ambitious.
711
00:42:04,772 --> 00:42:07,900
In the community, it
became like a divorce.
712
00:42:08,109 --> 00:42:10,737
Because it was like they
were on a rocket to fame
713
00:42:10,903 --> 00:42:13,072
and they decided to fuck Margot over.
714
00:42:13,698 --> 00:42:16,743
I knew I would miss the
scene and the community,
715
00:42:16,951 --> 00:42:19,954
but I didn't want to be
hanging out where I...
716
00:42:20,538 --> 00:42:24,667
would risk running into them.
I didn't want to see them at all.
717
00:42:25,543 --> 00:42:28,755
Pay no mind to what they say
718
00:42:29,422 --> 00:42:33,134
- It doesn't matter
anyway - Hey, hey, hey
719
00:42:33,342 --> 00:42:35,803
I didn't think about how
that must have felt for her.
720
00:42:35,887 --> 00:42:37,013
Our lips are sealed
721
00:42:37,221 --> 00:42:39,849
There were shows booked
for three weeks later,
722
00:42:40,016 --> 00:42:42,977
and I just wanted to make sure I
was the one doing them, you know.
723
00:42:43,061 --> 00:42:46,105
Pay no mind to what they say
724
00:42:46,314 --> 00:42:50,401
Kathy Valentine fit right in
and was the needed change
725
00:42:50,568 --> 00:42:53,029
to propel the band to their next step.
726
00:42:53,196 --> 00:42:54,906
Our lips are sealed
727
00:42:56,240 --> 00:42:58,951
Our lips are sealed
728
00:43:00,453 --> 00:43:04,916
You have no idea how barren
the landscape was in '81.
729
00:43:05,500 --> 00:43:08,503
The idea that women, a
host of different women,
730
00:43:08,669 --> 00:43:11,380
would tell their stories
in these kinds of songs
731
00:43:11,547 --> 00:43:13,466
and do it the punk way...
732
00:43:14,884 --> 00:43:17,534
Finding their own way in
a very difficult environment,
733
00:43:17,970 --> 00:43:19,138
that was unheard of.
734
00:43:26,270 --> 00:43:28,605
There was a whole new
generation of music coming up
735
00:43:28,689 --> 00:43:31,609
and the establishment record business
736
00:43:31,776 --> 00:43:33,486
really sort of dismissed them,
737
00:43:34,153 --> 00:43:37,156
and I saw them as a generational change.
738
00:43:37,698 --> 00:43:40,076
Miles Copeland, who managed The Police,
739
00:43:40,284 --> 00:43:42,787
decided to start his own boutique label.
740
00:43:42,954 --> 00:43:44,554
And he called it I.R.S. Records.
741
00:43:45,456 --> 00:43:48,709
Part of what I wanted
to do was to find some...
742
00:43:48,918 --> 00:43:50,378
local American bands.
743
00:43:51,504 --> 00:43:53,464
And I'd heard about The Go-Go's.
744
00:43:53,923 --> 00:43:56,926
All girls, punks from LA?
745
00:43:57,385 --> 00:43:59,636
Even if they were crap you'd
almost want to sign them,
746
00:43:59,720 --> 00:44:00,770
you know what I mean?
747
00:44:00,930 --> 00:44:03,030
But they were good
and they had good songs.
748
00:44:04,559 --> 00:44:08,146
We signed on April 1st to I.R.S. Records
749
00:44:08,354 --> 00:44:11,399
and the next day, we flew to New York.
750
00:44:11,566 --> 00:44:14,277
...if you could and be one of us
751
00:44:14,443 --> 00:44:16,445
We played a couple more gigs.
752
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:25,830
You know, I was 22 years old in
New York City making a record.
753
00:44:26,247 --> 00:44:28,708
Change the lines that were said before
754
00:44:28,875 --> 00:44:29,876
We're all dreamers
755
00:44:30,042 --> 00:44:31,878
With The Go-Go's as a punk band,
756
00:44:32,295 --> 00:44:36,424
they didn't have the experience
to know they could do more
757
00:44:36,591 --> 00:44:38,342
than just execute the moment.
758
00:44:39,927 --> 00:44:42,763
That's what I would
try to instill in them,
759
00:44:43,097 --> 00:44:45,725
and to say there are
grooves, there are feelings.
760
00:44:45,892 --> 00:44:48,853
If your songs are really good,
you don't run through them.
761
00:44:50,688 --> 00:44:53,357
Change the lines that were said before
762
00:44:53,649 --> 00:44:56,027
We're all dreamers, we're all whores
763
00:44:56,235 --> 00:44:59,655
Discarded stars like worn-out cars
764
00:45:00,448 --> 00:45:02,450
When Richard Gottehrer got a hold of us,
765
00:45:02,700 --> 00:45:04,300
he said, "Slow everything down."
766
00:45:04,493 --> 00:45:07,705
This town, litter the
streets in this town
767
00:45:07,914 --> 00:45:10,124
So, you could actually
understand the words
768
00:45:10,291 --> 00:45:12,877
and the melodies were more flowing.
769
00:45:13,044 --> 00:45:15,296
This town is our town
770
00:45:15,463 --> 00:45:17,548
It is so glamorous
771
00:45:17,715 --> 00:45:20,676
That's when I realized,
these are all pop songs.
772
00:45:20,843 --> 00:45:22,845
And be one of us
773
00:45:26,224 --> 00:45:29,852
I think actually it was my idea
for the face masks and towels,
774
00:45:30,144 --> 00:45:32,813
to sort of be timeless and incognito.
775
00:45:33,940 --> 00:45:35,490
I thought fabulous graphically,
776
00:45:35,608 --> 00:45:37,985
I thought, "Oh, that
could be really brilliant."
777
00:45:39,445 --> 00:45:43,324
Once again, we had no
money, so, Ginger went to Macy's
778
00:45:43,532 --> 00:45:45,034
and bought all those towels.
779
00:45:45,201 --> 00:45:48,037
She returned those
towels to Macy's afterwards.
780
00:45:48,371 --> 00:45:50,956
I couldn't invest in all
these brand-new fluffy, white,
781
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:53,918
expensive towels. We
couldn't afford those.
782
00:45:54,293 --> 00:45:56,295
It is so glamorous
783
00:45:56,504 --> 00:46:00,132
We were like going through
adolescence again together.
784
00:46:03,803 --> 00:46:06,097
Being the good
middle-class boy growing up,
785
00:46:06,472 --> 00:46:08,474
girls are one way, guys are another way.
786
00:46:08,683 --> 00:46:10,476
Well, I learned it's not like that.
787
00:46:11,435 --> 00:46:13,354
I learned that completely from them.
788
00:46:15,815 --> 00:46:18,442
We'd get done with a session
and I'd hear something like,
789
00:46:18,526 --> 00:46:20,068
"Let's go get some booty tonight."
790
00:46:20,152 --> 00:46:21,821
And I'm thinking, "Booty?"
791
00:46:23,698 --> 00:46:26,617
We had a lot of fun, did
a lot of drugs, drank a lot,
792
00:46:26,784 --> 00:46:28,160
just like a band does.
793
00:46:29,537 --> 00:46:34,417
Just a bunch of scruffy girls,
having the time of our life.
794
00:46:34,709 --> 00:46:36,210
This town
795
00:46:38,254 --> 00:46:43,384
But in the midst of all the
bonding and insanity and fun,
796
00:46:44,218 --> 00:46:48,264
I just felt so much
distance with Charlotte.
797
00:46:50,725 --> 00:46:54,020
Charlotte tended to
isolate herself quite a bit.
798
00:46:54,353 --> 00:46:57,105
So, we had really... She had
this whole secret life going on.
799
00:46:57,189 --> 00:46:59,358
We knew it probably wasn't good.
800
00:47:00,818 --> 00:47:03,529
Okay, let me talk about myself.
801
00:47:03,696 --> 00:47:06,157
I was full-blown heroin
addict at the time.
802
00:47:06,324 --> 00:47:09,160
So, I would be scoring
dope, which is so scary.
803
00:47:09,368 --> 00:47:11,537
Like, I'd go down to
Alphabet City. Yikes!
804
00:47:13,289 --> 00:47:15,666
When I moved to New
York, I became a squatter
805
00:47:15,875 --> 00:47:18,294
living in what is now the East Village,
806
00:47:18,544 --> 00:47:23,674
and I saw Charlotte
walking east to Alphabet City.
807
00:47:24,884 --> 00:47:28,304
The Alphabets is where
everyone would go to cop drugs,
808
00:47:28,679 --> 00:47:30,639
so I knew where she was going.
809
00:47:36,687 --> 00:47:40,232
After I graduated from college,
I tried heroin for the first time.
810
00:47:40,399 --> 00:47:42,943
"Oh, let me try this. I'll be fine!"
811
00:47:43,152 --> 00:47:46,002
It was like, you know, a
little matchstick-head-size of...
812
00:47:46,113 --> 00:47:47,156
That I snorted.
813
00:47:48,908 --> 00:47:51,160
It made me feel really
great, and I was like,
814
00:47:51,369 --> 00:47:53,245
"Wow, I like this feeling!"
815
00:47:53,454 --> 00:47:57,875
But I didn't understand at that
time, like, it was deadly shit.
816
00:47:58,334 --> 00:47:59,919
Then, I became addicted.
817
00:48:00,252 --> 00:48:04,090
Automatic, time stop
818
00:48:04,298 --> 00:48:06,592
She and I were like,
sharing a room together
819
00:48:06,759 --> 00:48:10,262
and she was actively
having a heroin addiction,
820
00:48:10,471 --> 00:48:14,183
which I never saw her take
heroin, I never saw heroin.
821
00:48:14,392 --> 00:48:16,935
I mean, how did she do
that? She was very secretive.
822
00:48:17,019 --> 00:48:18,895
She'd come to rehearsal, I'd
say, "Look at her fucking eyes!
823
00:48:18,979 --> 00:48:20,879
Her eyes are pinned, look at her eyes!"
824
00:48:21,524 --> 00:48:23,984
And I went and I knocked on her door.
825
00:48:24,235 --> 00:48:26,487
She answered and she had on her Ray-Bans.
826
00:48:26,695 --> 00:48:29,156
And I said, "They told
me that you do heroin."
827
00:48:29,323 --> 00:48:31,325
And she just looked at
me, she said, "No, no, no."
828
00:48:31,409 --> 00:48:33,059
And I was like, "Oh, okay, good."
829
00:48:34,036 --> 00:48:35,871
She was way more out of control
830
00:48:36,163 --> 00:48:38,582
than I think any of us really knew about.
831
00:48:41,544 --> 00:48:42,628
You all right?
832
00:48:42,795 --> 00:48:44,504
Yeah, I'm trying to
figure something out here.
833
00:48:44,588 --> 00:48:45,631
Okay, go ahead.
834
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:47,466
Just put yours first,
just keep it the same.
835
00:48:47,550 --> 00:48:50,302
Are we both saying it? "Hi,
we're Kathy and Charlotte."
836
00:48:50,511 --> 00:48:52,138
- Yeah, let's just do it.
- Okay.
837
00:48:52,304 --> 00:48:54,765
Yeah. Okay, we'll give it a try.
838
00:48:55,057 --> 00:48:57,643
Here we go. In three, two...
839
00:48:58,352 --> 00:49:01,272
Hi, we're Kathy and
Charlotte of The Go-Go's
840
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:04,733
and you can watch MTV 24 hours a day
841
00:49:04,942 --> 00:49:07,528
on cable vision in stereo.
842
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:16,162
Can you hear them?
843
00:49:16,328 --> 00:49:18,080
They talk about us...
844
00:49:18,497 --> 00:49:23,461
The Go-Go's and MTV came up
at the perfect time for each other,
845
00:49:23,752 --> 00:49:26,046
because MTV was all about,
846
00:49:26,213 --> 00:49:28,924
"This is what the artists
that you love look like."
847
00:49:29,467 --> 00:49:33,804
They came along looking
adorable and effervescent and fun.
848
00:49:33,971 --> 00:49:35,848
It just was a match made in heaven.
849
00:49:36,015 --> 00:49:37,266
Hey, hey, hey
850
00:49:39,518 --> 00:49:41,812
Our lips are sealed
851
00:49:42,313 --> 00:49:45,149
Well, it was a cheap
music video, actually.
852
00:49:45,524 --> 00:49:49,069
"Our Lips Are Sealed" was
done on a 6000-dollar budget,
853
00:49:49,278 --> 00:49:52,531
and that money came from a Police video
854
00:49:52,740 --> 00:49:55,075
that they didn't spend
all their money on,
855
00:49:55,242 --> 00:49:57,828
so Miles took the
money and let us spend it.
856
00:49:59,497 --> 00:50:00,998
Doesn't matter what they say
857
00:50:01,207 --> 00:50:03,707
We had no idea how
important video was going to be,
858
00:50:03,792 --> 00:50:06,045
so we thought, "This
is a big waste of time.
859
00:50:06,253 --> 00:50:07,922
Why are we doing this?"
860
00:50:08,088 --> 00:50:09,381
None of us took it seriously.
861
00:50:09,465 --> 00:50:12,551
We wanted to get arrested
and have that on tape.
862
00:50:13,427 --> 00:50:15,638
We decided if we jumped in the fountain,
863
00:50:15,804 --> 00:50:17,889
the Beverly Hills cops
would come and arrest us
864
00:50:17,973 --> 00:50:20,768
and it would be a really
great way to end the video.
865
00:50:20,935 --> 00:50:23,312
So, we're sitting there
frolicking in the water,
866
00:50:23,479 --> 00:50:25,229
frolicking, frolicking, frolicking.
867
00:50:25,356 --> 00:50:28,233
We jumped around in that
goddamn fountain for quite a while
868
00:50:28,317 --> 00:50:30,402
and nobody even paid any attention to us.
869
00:50:30,778 --> 00:50:32,321
No one would arrest us.
870
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:36,075
Next thing you know, MTV
is the biggest thing in America
871
00:50:36,283 --> 00:50:39,203
and they're showing The
Go-Go's every half hour.
872
00:50:39,411 --> 00:50:41,038
Our lips are sealed
873
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:46,168
I was saying to Ginger,
"Your band is happening."
874
00:50:46,794 --> 00:50:48,963
"If we put you on opening for The Police,
875
00:50:49,421 --> 00:50:53,926
it's going to really open so
many more eyes and more ears
876
00:50:54,093 --> 00:50:56,720
that it might really help
make the difference."
877
00:50:57,680 --> 00:51:00,933
Miles Copeland, with his vision saying,
878
00:51:01,183 --> 00:51:03,602
"Would you like The Go-Go's to
open for The Police?" Why, yes!
879
00:51:03,686 --> 00:51:07,064
It was a coup for us, because
they were huge at the time.
880
00:51:07,648 --> 00:51:10,859
We traveled around the
world opening for them.
881
00:51:16,156 --> 00:51:18,993
They were the best opening act ever.
882
00:51:19,201 --> 00:51:22,413
The Go-Go's came out, they
were so enthusiastic, so up!
883
00:51:22,580 --> 00:51:23,930
Their songs were so bright,
884
00:51:24,123 --> 00:51:26,292
that they just would light up the room.
885
00:51:27,126 --> 00:51:29,461
Walking by
886
00:51:29,712 --> 00:51:34,425
You hold your head so close to hers
887
00:51:34,633 --> 00:51:39,263
I could cry, I could cry
888
00:51:39,513 --> 00:51:41,223
I want to be...
889
00:51:41,432 --> 00:51:44,282
When we toured with The
Police, it took us from playing...
890
00:51:44,393 --> 00:51:46,061
clubs to arenas.
891
00:51:46,854 --> 00:51:49,440
When I walked out
on stage, I almost died.
892
00:51:52,568 --> 00:51:55,195
How much more can I take
893
00:51:55,404 --> 00:51:58,490
They had the most important
ingredient of musicianship,
894
00:51:58,699 --> 00:51:59,742
which is feel.
895
00:52:00,618 --> 00:52:03,245
They established a groove that worked,
896
00:52:03,454 --> 00:52:05,080
that you could lock into.
897
00:52:05,289 --> 00:52:08,042
They just created something
that exploded on the stage.
898
00:52:08,292 --> 00:52:11,337
Yeah, crazy, oh, yeah
899
00:52:11,837 --> 00:52:13,005
Yeah!
900
00:52:19,345 --> 00:52:21,138
During that Police tour,
901
00:52:21,472 --> 00:52:23,972
our album kept going up
and up and up in the chart.
902
00:52:24,058 --> 00:52:29,438
Their album was like a sky rocket,
and that made it really fun for us.
903
00:52:29,605 --> 00:52:32,655
It was like a vicarious thrill,
because we were old and jaded,
904
00:52:33,651 --> 00:52:36,111
to see these women, a new band,
905
00:52:36,403 --> 00:52:38,739
experiencing the
thrill for the first time,
906
00:52:38,947 --> 00:52:40,532
that lit us up.
907
00:52:40,824 --> 00:52:44,495
We were in Atlanta and Sting
came in the dressing room and...
908
00:52:44,662 --> 00:52:45,913
he's got champagne.
909
00:52:46,580 --> 00:52:49,750
"Congratulations, girls." We're
looking at him, like, "What?"
910
00:52:50,459 --> 00:52:52,836
He said, "Your record has passed ours."
911
00:52:54,004 --> 00:52:56,554
They were number six and
then we went to number one.
912
00:52:59,718 --> 00:53:01,345
They brought us champagne.
913
00:53:01,553 --> 00:53:04,181
It was actually very
gentlemanly of them to do that
914
00:53:04,390 --> 00:53:06,684
and not kick us off the tour!
915
00:53:07,976 --> 00:53:10,020
Beauty and the Beat
has gone to number one,
916
00:53:10,104 --> 00:53:13,273
and I think we were all
kind of over the moon.
917
00:53:14,733 --> 00:53:17,569
This is it, this is everything.
918
00:53:18,237 --> 00:53:21,949
Every step along the way,
it just kept getting better.
919
00:53:23,075 --> 00:53:26,370
I wish there was another phrase
other than "dream come true,"
920
00:53:26,537 --> 00:53:30,708
because it was so beyond that.
It was like it fulfilled everything.
921
00:53:31,125 --> 00:53:34,211
This is a circus. I swear.
922
00:53:35,921 --> 00:53:39,299
When you have something that
bucks the system and succeeds,
923
00:53:39,550 --> 00:53:40,843
it opens people's eyes.
924
00:53:41,051 --> 00:53:43,762
They did something that no
group has ever done before them,
925
00:53:43,846 --> 00:53:46,097
and that is have a number-one
album in the United States,
926
00:53:46,181 --> 00:53:47,224
being all girls.
927
00:53:48,142 --> 00:53:51,770
They opened people's
eyes to potential for women
928
00:53:51,937 --> 00:53:55,107
to do something that had
never really been done before.
929
00:53:56,650 --> 00:53:59,987
For The Go-Go's to have a
debut album go to number one,
930
00:54:00,279 --> 00:54:03,073
that's something that only
like, 26 other artists have done,
931
00:54:03,157 --> 00:54:06,910
like, you know, the
biggies, Elvis, The Beatles.
932
00:54:07,786 --> 00:54:08,912
They made history.
933
00:54:09,079 --> 00:54:12,332
They're the first all-female band,
to play their own instruments,
934
00:54:12,499 --> 00:54:16,628
write their own songs,
number-one record for six weeks.
935
00:54:17,171 --> 00:54:18,172
Mic drop.
936
00:54:22,134 --> 00:54:25,763
When I went to The
Go-Go's concert in 1982,
937
00:54:26,054 --> 00:54:32,227
as a young girl going into a
space where women own the stage,
938
00:54:32,770 --> 00:54:37,441
and own it unapologetically
like they were born to be there...
939
00:54:38,525 --> 00:54:41,862
To me, it represented
a moment of possibility.
940
00:54:42,112 --> 00:54:43,489
Thanks, good night!
941
00:54:48,243 --> 00:54:49,536
Thanks a lot!
942
00:54:50,078 --> 00:54:52,163
These... We're having a
high school reunion, you see.
943
00:54:52,247 --> 00:54:54,397
I went to high school
with all these people.
944
00:54:54,500 --> 00:54:55,850
Girls run up to us and say,
945
00:54:56,001 --> 00:54:58,253
"Oh, you know, we started
a band because of you!"
946
00:54:58,337 --> 00:55:00,046
And that's probably the
best feeling in the world,
947
00:55:00,130 --> 00:55:02,424
I mean, it's really great to
think that you inspire people
948
00:55:02,508 --> 00:55:03,926
to go out and start a band.
949
00:55:04,134 --> 00:55:06,970
So, this is the dawning
of a new era, this is it.
950
00:55:10,390 --> 00:55:12,768
Everybody has a different
perspective I'm sure,
951
00:55:12,935 --> 00:55:14,519
on what happened at Saturday Night Live.
952
00:55:14,603 --> 00:55:15,604
Oh, God.
953
00:55:17,356 --> 00:55:19,149
We got there 11:00 in the morning,
954
00:55:19,316 --> 00:55:22,402
and we had to wait until
11:00 at night basically.
955
00:55:22,736 --> 00:55:25,614
I think it was just a case of us
956
00:55:26,365 --> 00:55:29,701
sitting around a TV studio way too long,
957
00:55:29,910 --> 00:55:32,287
and then just starting
to dip into the booze.
958
00:55:33,247 --> 00:55:35,457
Let's have a toast, champagne.
959
00:55:35,707 --> 00:55:38,919
And then, oh, it's lunch
time, we'll have some wine.
960
00:55:39,711 --> 00:55:43,298
So then, you want to balance it
out, you want to lift things up a little,
961
00:55:43,382 --> 00:55:45,759
so magically the blow appears.
962
00:55:46,468 --> 00:55:48,011
Right before we went on, they said,
963
00:55:48,095 --> 00:55:51,347
"Remember, girls, you're playing
in front of 50 million people live."
964
00:55:51,431 --> 00:55:52,631
And we were just like...
965
00:55:52,850 --> 00:55:55,269
Yeah, we got it
966
00:55:55,477 --> 00:55:57,479
We were like cross-eyed drunk.
967
00:56:00,774 --> 00:56:05,195
The funny thing is, the next
day, we sold a ton of records.
968
00:56:06,154 --> 00:56:09,074
Even buzzing, messed-up Go-Go's
969
00:56:09,241 --> 00:56:11,159
being beamed into people's living rooms,
970
00:56:11,243 --> 00:56:14,643
it' still something that people
are just going, "Whoa, we like this."
971
00:56:17,249 --> 00:56:20,335
Well, now that we've had a
little bit of success and stuff
972
00:56:20,502 --> 00:56:23,881
and now we know how
wonderful it can be, we want more.
973
00:56:25,716 --> 00:56:28,719
The Rolling Stone cover was
supposed to be a comment
974
00:56:28,886 --> 00:56:30,929
on sexism, and obviously it backfired,
975
00:56:31,179 --> 00:56:33,807
because if we had really
been trying to be sexy
976
00:56:33,974 --> 00:56:35,726
and push our wares as women,
977
00:56:35,976 --> 00:56:38,228
you know, we would have
worn sexy underwear instead of,
978
00:56:38,312 --> 00:56:40,564
you know, Hanes and Fruit of the Loom.
979
00:56:40,772 --> 00:56:43,775
It's so tame, but when it
came out, it did not help
980
00:56:43,984 --> 00:56:45,986
that Rolling Stone chose the headline:
981
00:56:46,194 --> 00:56:47,696
"The Go-Go's Put Out."
982
00:56:48,906 --> 00:56:52,618
"Ginger, you've gotta call
Rolling Stone. We're not happy.
983
00:56:52,826 --> 00:56:54,619
We don't like that they
used these pictures
984
00:56:54,703 --> 00:56:56,705
on the front of the magazine."
985
00:56:57,247 --> 00:57:00,292
So, I phoned Rolling Stone
and asked for Jann, the publisher.
986
00:57:00,500 --> 00:57:03,921
"I said," Jann, some of the girls
are very upset about the image
987
00:57:04,129 --> 00:57:06,048
used on the front of the magazine."
988
00:57:06,506 --> 00:57:09,426
And there was a brief
pause and Jann said,
989
00:57:09,843 --> 00:57:12,428
"I thought you were calling
me to thank me for the cover.
990
00:57:12,512 --> 00:57:14,431
You girls need to grow up." Clunk!
991
00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:17,267
Maybe that's why we're not in
the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame,
992
00:57:17,351 --> 00:57:19,603
those ungrateful wenches!
993
00:57:21,730 --> 00:57:23,565
Our success was so quick...
994
00:57:25,734 --> 00:57:28,403
and I always felt like a
little bit of an impostor
995
00:57:28,570 --> 00:57:31,239
when it came to success,
like it was undeserved.
996
00:57:31,406 --> 00:57:33,074
We asked them why they are succeeding
997
00:57:33,158 --> 00:57:34,701
where other girl groups have failed.
998
00:57:34,785 --> 00:57:37,036
The majority of the reason
must be because of the songs,
999
00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:38,705
because if people don't like your songs
1000
00:57:38,789 --> 00:57:40,957
they're not gonna wanna come
see you live or buy your records.
1001
00:57:41,041 --> 00:57:43,126
Doesn't matter whether
you're a girl or whatever you are.
1002
00:57:43,210 --> 00:57:44,920
I think that timing and luck.
1003
00:57:45,671 --> 00:57:47,589
There is an element of that.
1004
00:57:47,756 --> 00:57:50,550
I think, luckily for us,
there are now five...
1005
00:57:51,843 --> 00:57:56,431
women all in one band
who all have fear of failure.
1006
00:57:57,224 --> 00:57:58,225
Really.
1007
00:58:00,143 --> 00:58:03,563
I think everybody, not just the band,
probably the record company was...
1008
00:58:03,647 --> 00:58:05,648
scrambling around to
figure out what to do next
1009
00:58:05,732 --> 00:58:07,432
on the back of such a big success.
1010
00:58:07,526 --> 00:58:10,069
Putting out a second album
made sense to the record industry,
1011
00:58:10,153 --> 00:58:13,907
because they want to make more
records and make more money.
1012
00:58:14,074 --> 00:58:16,924
And they're going to milk it
for everything that they can.
1013
00:58:17,494 --> 00:58:19,413
But at a price.
1014
00:58:19,746 --> 00:58:21,581
Do you have any time to write songs now
1015
00:58:21,665 --> 00:58:23,465
with all the traveling you're doing?
1016
00:58:23,959 --> 00:58:26,294
We've come to... Right
now, we're starting...
1017
00:58:26,545 --> 00:58:28,963
This next month, we're
going to work on new stuff.
1018
00:58:29,047 --> 00:58:30,597
What are you gonna write about?
1019
00:58:31,133 --> 00:58:34,803
Well, I can't really say what we're
gonna write about, I don't know.
1020
00:58:35,971 --> 00:58:39,933
Vacation, as a record, we were so rushed,
1021
00:58:40,142 --> 00:58:43,270
that the songwriting reflects that.
1022
00:58:43,895 --> 00:58:46,481
But I felt like, "Oh, my
God, I wrote a hit song"
1023
00:58:46,648 --> 00:58:49,109
and now what do I
do," you know? It's like...
1024
00:58:49,693 --> 00:58:51,570
It messes with your head.
1025
00:58:51,778 --> 00:58:55,157
And, you know, you always
hear about the sophomore jinx.
1026
00:58:58,535 --> 00:59:01,872
I was freaking out, because
we were scrambling for material,
1027
00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:03,957
and then luckily, we got "Vacation".
1028
00:59:04,124 --> 00:59:06,174
Kathy wrote "Vacation" and was playing it
1029
00:59:06,293 --> 00:59:09,629
in her previous band to
The Go-Go's, The Textones.
1030
00:59:12,466 --> 00:59:17,012
I've thought a lot of things about you
1031
00:59:17,429 --> 00:59:21,641
I've stayed awake just thinking 'bout you
1032
00:59:21,808 --> 00:59:24,644
I showed it to Charlotte, she
said, "I really like this song,
1033
00:59:24,728 --> 00:59:27,355
I think, you know, it
needs more of a chorus."
1034
00:59:27,564 --> 00:59:31,526
Tomorrow's a day of
mine that you won't be in
1035
00:59:31,735 --> 00:59:33,320
I really felt like...
1036
00:59:33,695 --> 00:59:35,739
the original version kind of went down,
1037
00:59:35,906 --> 00:59:37,806
and this, it just should have gone up.
1038
00:59:38,283 --> 00:59:40,702
Vacation, all I ever wanted
1039
00:59:40,869 --> 00:59:43,580
A vacation, had to get away
1040
00:59:43,789 --> 00:59:46,333
If we hadn't had that song on the record,
1041
00:59:46,500 --> 00:59:48,876
it would have been a very
different outcome for us.
1042
00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:51,295
That probably would've
ended everything right there,
1043
00:59:51,379 --> 00:59:53,131
'cause that song was really cool.
1044
00:59:53,298 --> 00:59:54,966
Had to get away
1045
00:59:55,133 --> 00:59:58,220
Vacation, meant to be spent alone
1046
00:59:58,553 --> 01:00:01,431
Who knew that the girls
were such able water skiers?
1047
01:00:02,432 --> 01:00:04,017
At the video shoot,
1048
01:00:04,601 --> 01:00:08,230
they started wandering off
wearing their little water ski tutus
1049
01:00:08,396 --> 01:00:10,774
and started walking up La Brea Avenue.
1050
01:00:11,024 --> 01:00:13,777
I followed them and
started snapping away.
1051
01:00:14,694 --> 01:00:16,863
They just looked like four ballerinas
1052
01:00:17,030 --> 01:00:19,908
between takes on a
movie set or something.
1053
01:00:23,453 --> 01:00:27,707
"Vacation" soon hit the radio
waves and did really, really well...
1054
01:00:28,208 --> 01:00:29,960
and got lots of play.
1055
01:00:30,168 --> 01:00:33,380
But it stalled in the charts.
1056
01:00:33,713 --> 01:00:35,382
Are you still getting along?
1057
01:00:37,300 --> 01:00:39,469
Yeah, we're getting along really good...
1058
01:00:39,636 --> 01:00:41,679
- Surprisingly, yeah -
...as a matter of fact.
1059
01:00:41,763 --> 01:00:44,932
But this is the beginning of tour,
we'll see how it is the last week.
1060
01:00:45,016 --> 01:00:48,316
No, we'll get along, we always
have got along pretty good, I'd say.
1061
01:00:49,688 --> 01:00:51,148
Show time!
1062
01:00:51,940 --> 01:00:55,152
It's everything but party time
1063
01:00:55,360 --> 01:00:59,197
It's everything but party time...
1064
01:00:59,739 --> 01:01:01,908
I mean, this was like
a fucking treadmill.
1065
01:01:02,159 --> 01:01:05,704
They were pushing us constantly.
We were on tour constantly.
1066
01:01:08,039 --> 01:01:10,000
You would be absolutely exhausted
1067
01:01:10,167 --> 01:01:13,712
and arrive from some
long transatlantic flight,
1068
01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:17,799
and the promoter for an upcoming
show was reaching out to you
1069
01:01:17,966 --> 01:01:19,092
in panic saying,
1070
01:01:19,259 --> 01:01:21,636
"We need the girls to
do this, this, this and this."
1071
01:01:21,720 --> 01:01:23,221
This has been an incredible year.
1072
01:01:23,305 --> 01:01:25,557
The success, how's it affected your life
1073
01:01:25,724 --> 01:01:27,274
at this stage of the ball game?
1074
01:01:27,392 --> 01:01:29,978
We're aware of how well
we're doing but we don't...
1075
01:01:30,437 --> 01:01:32,487
- feel it, yeah, not yet.
- Feel it, yeah.
1076
01:01:32,606 --> 01:01:34,941
Just too much overload
on the brain right now.
1077
01:01:37,068 --> 01:01:40,572
My life has been planned out
for me for the next two years.
1078
01:01:40,780 --> 01:01:44,284
I can tell you my schedule until
September of next year practically.
1079
01:01:47,913 --> 01:01:51,124
When you go from nowhere
to number one, things change.
1080
01:01:51,791 --> 01:01:53,168
It's inevitable.
1081
01:01:54,753 --> 01:01:57,303
The old joke is, you know,
when you're a new manager
1082
01:01:57,422 --> 01:01:58,923
and you knew what you were doing,
1083
01:01:59,007 --> 01:02:01,760
you're signing a new
band, you know, you're God.
1084
01:02:02,135 --> 01:02:04,512
The day they're number
one, you're the janitor.
1085
01:02:04,721 --> 01:02:07,224
Can't seem to get my mind off of you
1086
01:02:07,432 --> 01:02:09,632
What's the worst thing
about being a manager?
1087
01:02:12,687 --> 01:02:14,481
When they don't want you anymore.
1088
01:02:17,067 --> 01:02:21,655
I think the band just got
too big for her to handle.
1089
01:02:22,822 --> 01:02:24,866
We wanted to make the most
1090
01:02:25,033 --> 01:02:27,494
of the time that we had in the spotlight.
1091
01:02:27,702 --> 01:02:30,538
We wanted to make money
and continue to be successful,
1092
01:02:30,747 --> 01:02:32,197
and we felt like we needed...
1093
01:02:34,251 --> 01:02:37,212
a more experienced person at the helm.
1094
01:02:37,712 --> 01:02:41,925
It was surprising how quickly
people came out of the woodwork,
1095
01:02:42,133 --> 01:02:45,178
other managers saying how
they could do so much better
1096
01:02:45,345 --> 01:02:48,306
if they had a big management
team behind them.
1097
01:02:50,267 --> 01:02:52,978
I'm pretty sure that she
knew we wanted her to work
1098
01:02:53,144 --> 01:02:57,774
with a bigger manager that had
a firm instead of, like, one person.
1099
01:02:57,983 --> 01:03:00,151
I'm getting kind of choked up, my throat.
1100
01:03:00,610 --> 01:03:04,781
It's like... No, no, it's just
that it's emotional for me,
1101
01:03:04,948 --> 01:03:07,617
because going back to
that time, it was difficult,
1102
01:03:08,118 --> 01:03:10,328
remembering it, and how I felt.
1103
01:03:12,622 --> 01:03:16,126
It was very painful. My band
was taken away from me.
1104
01:03:16,376 --> 01:03:19,379
I remember sitting in
on meetings and feeling...
1105
01:03:19,754 --> 01:03:23,383
incredibly little as the girls
sat on the edge of their seat
1106
01:03:23,675 --> 01:03:27,304
looking enthralled by these
new managers, all men,
1107
01:03:27,470 --> 01:03:30,307
not that that mattered, but
just like a new power base,
1108
01:03:30,473 --> 01:03:32,225
like this was going to be great,
1109
01:03:32,392 --> 01:03:35,353
that this was going to be,
like, change everything.
1110
01:03:35,520 --> 01:03:38,231
It was horrible having them
say with the band there,
1111
01:03:38,398 --> 01:03:41,526
"Well, Ginger, we know you know
how to take a band from A to B,
1112
01:03:41,693 --> 01:03:45,488
and you do a great job. We
can take that band from B to Z."
1113
01:03:45,655 --> 01:03:50,535
We felt like it was going to
help us go to another level.
1114
01:03:50,827 --> 01:03:52,370
People that set all of it in motion,
1115
01:03:52,454 --> 01:03:54,288
they knew that my days would be numbered,
1116
01:03:54,372 --> 01:03:56,124
that anyone with any integrity,
1117
01:03:56,291 --> 01:03:59,544
you're not going to stick
around. Why would you?
1118
01:03:59,711 --> 01:04:02,672
I guess we hurt her. Must
have hurt her pretty badly,
1119
01:04:03,882 --> 01:04:06,468
because she just...
One day, she was gone.
1120
01:04:06,885 --> 01:04:09,721
It was no "fuck you" or
nothing, it was just gone.
1121
01:04:10,055 --> 01:04:11,514
How angry were you?
1122
01:04:12,682 --> 01:04:14,517
Angry enough to move to New York?
1123
01:04:17,145 --> 01:04:18,855
She was like the sixth Go-Go.
1124
01:04:19,898 --> 01:04:24,986
When she left, it really
turned into a big business.
1125
01:04:25,195 --> 01:04:26,904
It wasn't even that much fun anymore.
1126
01:04:26,988 --> 01:04:31,159
We just... That's all we knew
how to do, was be a Go-Go.
1127
01:04:33,411 --> 01:04:35,747
Gina was in our new manager's office,
1128
01:04:35,914 --> 01:04:38,165
supposedly a more professional
management company
1129
01:04:38,249 --> 01:04:41,199
who turned out to suck, we
should've just stuck with Ginger.
1130
01:04:42,045 --> 01:04:45,799
But, I guess Gina saw a
check that Charlotte got
1131
01:04:45,965 --> 01:04:48,301
and it was for, like,
a gazillion dollars.
1132
01:04:48,468 --> 01:04:51,262
And of course, Gina wasn't
getting a check like that.
1133
01:04:51,429 --> 01:04:53,056
I almost fell over.
1134
01:04:53,640 --> 01:04:57,560
He said, "See how much she makes?
That's 'cause she's a songwriter."
1135
01:04:59,562 --> 01:05:01,605
There are two ways you
make money out of a record.
1136
01:05:01,689 --> 01:05:04,039
You make it in the
recording and the publishing.
1137
01:05:04,651 --> 01:05:06,193
The person who writes the songs,
1138
01:05:06,277 --> 01:05:08,363
which is really the vehicle that you need
1139
01:05:10,407 --> 01:05:13,701
is going to make more money.
And that can cause problems.
1140
01:05:13,952 --> 01:05:15,536
You write a lot of the songs, right?
1141
01:05:15,620 --> 01:05:16,871
- Yeah.
- With Charlotte?
1142
01:05:17,038 --> 01:05:21,209
Charlotte writing "We Got the Beat"
all by herself, that song was huge.
1143
01:05:21,418 --> 01:05:24,045
It's like everyone wanted it
for commercials and movies
1144
01:05:24,129 --> 01:05:27,424
and TV shows, and I mean,
that's like cha-ching, cha-ching.
1145
01:05:27,590 --> 01:05:30,635
Songwriting was so important
to me, it was my identity.
1146
01:05:30,802 --> 01:05:33,680
That's why I held so close,
so dear to me and I didn't...
1147
01:05:33,847 --> 01:05:36,391
You know, you can't
take any part of this.
1148
01:05:36,558 --> 01:05:39,602
This is mine, you know, this is who I am.
1149
01:05:39,811 --> 01:05:42,313
I will still stand behind
the belief that songwriting
1150
01:05:42,397 --> 01:05:45,097
is a really specific skill
that many people don't have,
1151
01:05:45,191 --> 01:05:48,391
and it's a lot of extra hard work
that other people aren't doing.
1152
01:05:50,280 --> 01:05:55,076
I'd made more money than
I'd ever imagined in my lifetime.
1153
01:05:55,660 --> 01:05:59,330
But I knew there was going to
be an issue in the discrepancy
1154
01:05:59,497 --> 01:06:02,250
between the highest
earner, who was Charlotte,
1155
01:06:02,417 --> 01:06:05,086
and the lowest earner, who was Gina...
1156
01:06:05,837 --> 01:06:08,130
and Belinda. I knew there
was gonna be a problem.
1157
01:06:08,214 --> 01:06:10,714
Most people think that
we're really rich right now,
1158
01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:15,972
but... I don't... I know that
we're not rich right now!
1159
01:06:16,598 --> 01:06:18,892
I was too busy having a lot of fun,
1160
01:06:19,058 --> 01:06:22,312
and I just let the
others write the songs.
1161
01:06:22,770 --> 01:06:26,566
Gina would say to me, "This
is not fair," and, you know...
1162
01:06:27,484 --> 01:06:30,236
And I would say, "I
know it's not fair, but..."
1163
01:06:30,945 --> 01:06:34,240
I felt like, inside, I really
had no right to say anything,
1164
01:06:34,407 --> 01:06:36,451
because I was such a fuck-up.
1165
01:06:39,329 --> 01:06:41,998
What scared me was
an unhappy lead singer,
1166
01:06:42,165 --> 01:06:45,001
who pretty much made
the band into contenders,
1167
01:06:45,210 --> 01:06:47,795
feeling cheated and unappreciated.
1168
01:06:49,672 --> 01:06:54,344
It set up a vibe where I
started feeling very concerned
1169
01:06:54,511 --> 01:06:55,762
about our future.
1170
01:06:57,847 --> 01:07:00,183
And it's like, are you
fucking kidding me?
1171
01:07:00,350 --> 01:07:03,645
Now, we're already
having this be a problem?
1172
01:07:04,771 --> 01:07:08,775
The fighting and the real drugs
happen when we all get money,
1173
01:07:09,609 --> 01:07:10,610
you know?
1174
01:07:11,277 --> 01:07:13,196
It wrecks everything.
1175
01:07:15,114 --> 01:07:19,953
Walking around it's
clear that I'm worlds away
1176
01:07:20,161 --> 01:07:22,830
Charlotte was isolating quite a bit.
1177
01:07:23,248 --> 01:07:24,874
I spend a lot of time here.
1178
01:07:25,250 --> 01:07:29,462
I don't go out that often, because
I like it here a lot in my house.
1179
01:07:30,547 --> 01:07:33,633
I bought a house up in the
hills and I was by myself.
1180
01:07:33,800 --> 01:07:35,385
It was a bad situation.
1181
01:07:36,261 --> 01:07:38,137
I was suffering,
1182
01:07:38,721 --> 01:07:41,266
and I didn't know who
to talk to or what to do.
1183
01:07:42,267 --> 01:07:44,060
No, we're just like sisters
1184
01:07:44,269 --> 01:07:47,272
and we're all looking out for, you know,
1185
01:07:47,647 --> 01:07:51,818
each other all the time, and
we all love each other very much.
1186
01:07:53,361 --> 01:07:56,489
We didn't communicate, and
then when we did communicate
1187
01:07:56,656 --> 01:07:59,993
we didn't do it in a loving,
sort of respectful way.
1188
01:08:00,493 --> 01:08:03,913
By 1984, things were
getting pretty frazzled with us.
1189
01:08:04,080 --> 01:08:07,417
We'd still really never had
been given enough time
1190
01:08:07,584 --> 01:08:11,170
to write or recuperate or
anything. So, it was very tense.
1191
01:08:11,879 --> 01:08:15,425
Being in a band, you become
each other's best friends
1192
01:08:15,592 --> 01:08:17,594
and also each other's worst enemies.
1193
01:08:18,678 --> 01:08:23,182
It became a difficult place to
be, because I always wanted
1194
01:08:23,349 --> 01:08:24,809
to put out fires.
1195
01:08:25,643 --> 01:08:29,230
Somebody's not happy,
you know, fix this, fix, fix, fix,
1196
01:08:29,439 --> 01:08:31,399
you know, and have fun.
1197
01:08:32,233 --> 01:08:34,902
No matter how miserable
everyone is, have fun.
1198
01:08:42,577 --> 01:08:46,748
This is when we first got to
England, making the third record.
1199
01:08:47,165 --> 01:08:49,667
And this was the clown family.
1200
01:08:50,126 --> 01:08:52,629
We had something called the clown family
1201
01:08:52,837 --> 01:08:55,757
where everybody posed the
same way and put on a clown nose.
1202
01:08:57,008 --> 01:08:59,969
This is the clown family watching TV.
1203
01:09:03,806 --> 01:09:06,768
And here's the clown
family doing some blow.
1204
01:09:07,810 --> 01:09:09,479
Upon arrival in London.
1205
01:09:15,985 --> 01:09:19,781
The ultimate is the clown family
giving birth to another clown.
1206
01:09:20,198 --> 01:09:23,034
Except Jane was the other clown!
1207
01:09:23,201 --> 01:09:25,703
Every single person birthed Jane.
1208
01:09:27,330 --> 01:09:30,458
Like an old movie backdrop
1209
01:09:32,001 --> 01:09:34,879
The radio's blasting
1210
01:09:35,463 --> 01:09:37,507
We still managed to have a lot of fun,
1211
01:09:37,924 --> 01:09:40,718
despite what might have been going on.
1212
01:09:41,135 --> 01:09:45,473
She says "I just wanted to make you"
1213
01:09:46,140 --> 01:09:49,936
"I never meant to break you"
1214
01:09:50,144 --> 01:09:53,773
He says "Have some mercy on me"
1215
01:09:56,359 --> 01:10:01,781
"Do you have to be such a mercenary?"
1216
01:10:05,910 --> 01:10:09,706
I went into the studio when they
were recording the third album.
1217
01:10:09,997 --> 01:10:12,833
There was a famous scene of
one of the members vomiting on me,
1218
01:10:12,917 --> 01:10:16,003
you know, she'd had too much
to drink. I won't mention who,
1219
01:10:16,295 --> 01:10:19,424
but I was covered in vomit in the studio.
1220
01:10:19,841 --> 01:10:21,467
So, I knew stuff was going on.
1221
01:10:21,676 --> 01:10:23,428
Good evening, I'm Charlotte.
1222
01:10:23,761 --> 01:10:26,431
- Good evening, I'm Gina.
- Good evening, I'm Jane.
1223
01:10:26,639 --> 01:10:28,599
- I'm Kathy.
- Good evening, I'm Belinda,
1224
01:10:28,683 --> 01:10:31,352
- I'm The Go-Go's.
- No, I'm The Go-Go's.
1225
01:10:31,561 --> 01:10:34,063
- I'm The Go-Go's.
- No, we're all The Go-Go's.
1226
01:10:34,230 --> 01:10:35,314
Well, anyway...
1227
01:10:35,606 --> 01:10:39,110
We'd started writing
songs for the third record,
1228
01:10:39,318 --> 01:10:42,572
but Charlotte hit a
bit of a writing block.
1229
01:10:43,656 --> 01:10:47,285
It got harder to write,
actually. It prevented me.
1230
01:10:47,493 --> 01:10:50,538
I was really writing a lot,
because Charlotte was...
1231
01:10:51,122 --> 01:10:53,040
in a lot of trouble with the drugs.
1232
01:10:53,249 --> 01:10:56,919
When it goes dark, forget the night
1233
01:10:58,588 --> 01:11:01,841
There are people that
really loved that album,
1234
01:11:02,049 --> 01:11:04,635
but I can't even listen
to it because to me,
1235
01:11:05,219 --> 01:11:08,681
I was so miserable during
that time, oh, my God.
1236
01:11:09,307 --> 01:11:11,601
When it goes dark
1237
01:11:12,810 --> 01:11:14,479
Get me to bed
1238
01:11:14,645 --> 01:11:16,189
On that trip,
1239
01:11:16,606 --> 01:11:18,983
there was an implosion.
Jane got really upset.
1240
01:11:19,150 --> 01:11:21,194
Wait for the light of day
1241
01:11:21,944 --> 01:11:24,238
I think she felt frustrated,
probably, with me
1242
01:11:24,489 --> 01:11:26,439
and with wanting to have a bigger role.
1243
01:11:26,616 --> 01:11:29,660
I'm the only one you run
to The one you come to
1244
01:11:29,911 --> 01:11:31,871
The only one you can get to
1245
01:11:32,079 --> 01:11:34,499
I'm the only one for you
1246
01:11:34,707 --> 01:11:37,335
- I'm the only one - Only one for you
1247
01:11:37,543 --> 01:11:40,171
- I'm the only one - Only one for you
1248
01:11:40,379 --> 01:11:42,882
- I'm the only one - Only one for you
1249
01:11:43,090 --> 01:11:45,051
I'm the only one
1250
01:11:45,510 --> 01:11:48,179
When we were recording
the album, I had decided
1251
01:11:48,387 --> 01:11:50,305
that I wanted to sing
one song on the record,
1252
01:11:50,389 --> 01:11:52,057
and there was one song that I'd written
1253
01:11:52,141 --> 01:11:54,810
that was super personal to
me called "Forget That Day".
1254
01:11:54,894 --> 01:11:57,104
Then, I went to each girl and was like,
1255
01:11:57,313 --> 01:11:59,106
"Please, can I sing this one song?"
1256
01:11:59,315 --> 01:12:01,484
I remember that day
1257
01:12:02,819 --> 01:12:05,154
Wind pushing birds around
1258
01:12:05,571 --> 01:12:06,989
And she came to us...
1259
01:12:08,366 --> 01:12:09,992
and we just said, "No."
1260
01:12:10,243 --> 01:12:13,454
Belinda was the lead
singer, it just felt weird.
1261
01:12:13,663 --> 01:12:16,707
We decided that that
wasn't the way to go,
1262
01:12:16,874 --> 01:12:19,585
that we wanted to keep everybody
had their role within the band,
1263
01:12:19,669 --> 01:12:21,420
and that was the way it was going to be.
1264
01:12:21,504 --> 01:12:24,304
I don't really like to talk
about that, because it wasn't
1265
01:12:24,465 --> 01:12:27,760
like a unanimous thing in this band.
1266
01:12:28,344 --> 01:12:29,387
One of them said,
1267
01:12:29,554 --> 01:12:32,181
"What makes you think you're
good enough to sing a song?"
1268
01:12:32,265 --> 01:12:34,934
Which is something
I'll never forget hearing.
1269
01:12:35,643 --> 01:12:37,186
It was a huge betrayal,
1270
01:12:37,353 --> 01:12:39,730
and I did not know how to get past it.
1271
01:12:39,939 --> 01:12:41,357
I lost my heart
1272
01:12:41,566 --> 01:12:44,652
But I just said I hate heights
1273
01:12:44,861 --> 01:12:47,363
It never occurred to any of us...
1274
01:12:47,989 --> 01:12:51,117
that we have to sit down, and
how can we make this work?
1275
01:12:52,326 --> 01:12:55,037
But, no, nothing could
change, nobody could grow.
1276
01:12:55,204 --> 01:12:56,622
And I was part of it, too.
1277
01:12:56,789 --> 01:12:59,166
I left to get some work done
1278
01:12:59,375 --> 01:13:04,463
We made Belinda feel guilty
for being a star and a diva.
1279
01:13:07,884 --> 01:13:11,971
We made Jane feel like
what she wanted and needed
1280
01:13:12,430 --> 01:13:15,580
was not important enough for
us to even sit down and talk about.
1281
01:13:16,851 --> 01:13:20,146
We made Gina feel like what
she contributed wasn't enough.
1282
01:13:20,313 --> 01:13:22,398
You don't deserve to make as much.
1283
01:13:22,565 --> 01:13:24,942
Why'd you say you love me
1284
01:13:25,276 --> 01:13:28,362
And we couldn't see the pain
1285
01:13:28,654 --> 01:13:31,365
that Charlotte was walking around in.
1286
01:13:31,574 --> 01:13:33,826
Try to forget that day
1287
01:13:41,626 --> 01:13:46,255
I was always an optimist hoping
that we would keep things together.
1288
01:13:46,797 --> 01:13:49,550
And I don't know that
they recognized then,
1289
01:13:50,301 --> 01:13:53,471
and after the third album,
what they really had together.
1290
01:13:55,097 --> 01:13:57,975
Head over heels Where should I go
1291
01:13:58,184 --> 01:14:02,521
"Head Over Heels", we made a
video, it got released as a single.
1292
01:14:03,606 --> 01:14:05,399
The tour machine's picking up.
1293
01:14:05,691 --> 01:14:07,610
...out of sync
1294
01:14:12,114 --> 01:14:14,614
We were getting ready
to tour for the third record.
1295
01:14:14,825 --> 01:14:17,077
We were at rehearsal and
a call came in, it was like,
1296
01:14:17,161 --> 01:14:19,162
"Gina, your doctor's on
the phone." I was like...
1297
01:14:19,246 --> 01:14:21,374
We all sort of stopped,
like, what is this?
1298
01:14:21,540 --> 01:14:24,501
Gina had always been like
coming off stage, "I can't breathe,"
1299
01:14:24,585 --> 01:14:27,337
and we'd be like, "Oh, my
God, she's such a drama queen,"
1300
01:14:27,421 --> 01:14:31,175
like, no, absolutely like no
sympathy whatsoever for her.
1301
01:14:31,384 --> 01:14:32,802
Now what? Because...
1302
01:14:33,469 --> 01:14:37,431
she has been seeing this doctor
and that doctor and we're just like,
1303
01:14:37,640 --> 01:14:38,641
"Oh, come on."
1304
01:14:38,849 --> 01:14:40,642
But as it turns out, she couldn't breathe
1305
01:14:40,726 --> 01:14:42,436
because she had a
hole in her heart and like,
1306
01:14:42,520 --> 01:14:45,272
she wasn't getting enough
oxygen. Yeah, so our bad.
1307
01:14:45,439 --> 01:14:47,608
Gina was diagnosed
with a hole in her heart.
1308
01:14:47,817 --> 01:14:50,736
- She was going to have surgery.
- Heart surgery, what the fuck?
1309
01:14:50,820 --> 01:14:54,615
It was a little scary, but we dealt
with it with a lot of, like, humor.
1310
01:14:54,824 --> 01:14:59,870
Our humor was, you
know, always gallows-dark.
1311
01:15:00,121 --> 01:15:03,457
So, we decided to have
this final lost weekend
1312
01:15:03,624 --> 01:15:06,419
in Palm Springs together
just in case Gina croaked.
1313
01:15:06,627 --> 01:15:08,796
They were taking me
out on my last hurrah.
1314
01:15:11,966 --> 01:15:15,553
We rented, I think, a convertible
Jag and a convertible Cadillac.
1315
01:15:16,220 --> 01:15:18,770
Let's buy a bunch of drugs
and go out to the desert.
1316
01:15:20,307 --> 01:15:22,309
We had just like a shit ton of drugs,
1317
01:15:22,685 --> 01:15:26,147
and we're driving into Palm
Springs going 100 miles an hour.
1318
01:15:30,234 --> 01:15:35,156
It was a total weekend of
debauchery and drugs and drinking.
1319
01:15:36,782 --> 01:15:38,325
Sex
1320
01:15:39,618 --> 01:15:41,078
Fun
1321
01:15:42,371 --> 01:15:45,624
And we had a special rule that
Gina was not allowed to do cocaine,
1322
01:15:45,833 --> 01:15:48,377
she can only do booze,
Valium and mushrooms,
1323
01:15:48,586 --> 01:15:50,379
so you know, we were keeping her safe!
1324
01:15:50,463 --> 01:15:52,963
Because they didn't want
me to have a heart attack.
1325
01:16:06,145 --> 01:16:08,814
It did bring the band
together temporarily.
1326
01:16:09,940 --> 01:16:14,320
It's funny how you can feel so
isolated from people in the band,
1327
01:16:14,487 --> 01:16:18,032
and then in a minute, in a
second, you're family again.
1328
01:16:19,492 --> 01:16:22,161
We were really at odds,
and when I had that surgery
1329
01:16:22,328 --> 01:16:25,289
everybody sort of came
together for a while there.
1330
01:16:26,248 --> 01:16:27,708
We've gotten a lot of calls and letters
1331
01:16:27,792 --> 01:16:29,418
and your fans are real concerned.
1332
01:16:29,502 --> 01:16:31,753
If you could just give us
an update on your health?
1333
01:16:31,837 --> 01:16:33,589
I'm fine. My heart is better.
1334
01:16:33,798 --> 01:16:36,133
My doctor told me I
can do anything I like.
1335
01:16:36,300 --> 01:16:39,220
I can't wait to get out on tour
because I'm bored to death.
1336
01:16:41,305 --> 01:16:43,255
Well, I do want to talk about the tour.
1337
01:16:43,390 --> 01:16:45,840
What kind of tour sponsorship
are you considering?
1338
01:16:46,143 --> 01:16:48,437
Before the album was
released, that's kind of
1339
01:16:48,604 --> 01:16:51,232
when the publishing
thing really came to a head.
1340
01:16:51,440 --> 01:16:54,777
We were called to a meeting at
the crappy management's office,
1341
01:16:54,944 --> 01:17:00,157
and it was stated all the
publishing needs to be split equally.
1342
01:17:01,283 --> 01:17:02,951
"And then, I said," Well, wait a minute,
1343
01:17:03,035 --> 01:17:04,745
this album is totally done."
1344
01:17:04,954 --> 01:17:08,165
"I totally agree to do
that for the next album,
1345
01:17:08,332 --> 01:17:11,585
but I'm not doing it for this album,
because I fucking worked my ass off."
1346
01:17:11,669 --> 01:17:14,504
And they're like, "Nope, you
gotta do it." I'm like, "I won't do it."
1347
01:17:14,588 --> 01:17:16,298
"You've gotta do it." "I won't do it."
1348
01:17:16,382 --> 01:17:18,216
And then, I just said,
"Fuck you, I quit."
1349
01:17:18,300 --> 01:17:19,900
And that's when I quit the band.
1350
01:17:21,595 --> 01:17:24,348
But, of course, I couldn't
leave the band yet
1351
01:17:24,515 --> 01:17:27,935
because we had a whole huge tour
planned to support the new album.
1352
01:17:28,144 --> 01:17:30,944
She told us that she was...
After the tour for Talk Show,
1353
01:17:31,063 --> 01:17:32,213
she was going to leave.
1354
01:17:32,356 --> 01:17:35,776
You guys have been
together now for quite a while.
1355
01:17:35,985 --> 01:17:38,279
Do you still all just
get along as friends?
1356
01:17:38,487 --> 01:17:39,738
Yeah.
1357
01:17:40,906 --> 01:17:42,908
There would be a lot of questions
1358
01:17:43,075 --> 01:17:45,911
about what our relationship
with each other was like.
1359
01:17:46,078 --> 01:17:48,539
"Oh, we love each
other. We're like sisters."
1360
01:17:48,706 --> 01:17:51,917
Yeah, like sisters that fucking
stab each other in the back.
1361
01:18:03,137 --> 01:18:04,937
It was a little toxic, shall we say.
1362
01:18:06,015 --> 01:18:08,517
But I know what you're doing
1363
01:18:08,726 --> 01:18:11,729
But the machine, Go-Go
machine, had to keep going.
1364
01:18:12,354 --> 01:18:14,064
Falling to ruin
1365
01:18:14,273 --> 01:18:16,984
You got your walls so high
1366
01:18:17,651 --> 01:18:19,528
Things were really coming apart.
1367
01:18:20,070 --> 01:18:22,364
There may be some explanation
1368
01:18:22,948 --> 01:18:25,618
This band is everything to me.
1369
01:18:25,784 --> 01:18:31,457
My driving focus was
to keep that shit together.
1370
01:18:31,749 --> 01:18:35,085
- I just want to turn
to you - Turn to you
1371
01:18:35,252 --> 01:18:38,297
- Come on let me turn
to you - Turn to you
1372
01:18:38,631 --> 01:18:42,259
There was a lot of crap
going on, and it felt like,
1373
01:18:42,468 --> 01:18:45,346
the dream of The
Go-Go's was slipping away,
1374
01:18:45,721 --> 01:18:49,642
and, of course, I more so felt
like my life was slipping away.
1375
01:18:51,310 --> 01:18:53,979
It has a lot to do
1376
01:18:54,480 --> 01:18:58,234
There were definitely times
when you really had to fake it
1377
01:18:58,400 --> 01:18:59,526
to get through it.
1378
01:19:00,277 --> 01:19:03,113
We had this whole thing
that we called robo-Go-Go-ing,
1379
01:19:03,322 --> 01:19:05,783
where you would just
get out there on stage
1380
01:19:05,991 --> 01:19:08,744
and no one would fucking
know that you had just had
1381
01:19:08,911 --> 01:19:10,311
a screaming fight backstage.
1382
01:19:10,412 --> 01:19:13,624
You would just get out there
and be like... robo Go-Go!
1383
01:19:13,832 --> 01:19:15,668
I want to turn to you
1384
01:19:16,460 --> 01:19:19,213
Come on, let me turn to you
1385
01:19:19,463 --> 01:19:21,840
Please let me turn to you
1386
01:19:22,508 --> 01:19:24,843
During the tour, Jane
announced that she was leaving,
1387
01:19:24,927 --> 01:19:26,011
which I didn't believe.
1388
01:19:26,095 --> 01:19:29,431
And then, sure enough she
did and it was really devastating.
1389
01:19:31,934 --> 01:19:35,145
I felt completely
betrayed. I felt like...
1390
01:19:35,980 --> 01:19:39,316
she was breaking up
something that was so precious.
1391
01:19:39,525 --> 01:19:42,069
We knew we were in
trouble then, because, I mean,
1392
01:19:42,236 --> 01:19:45,948
she's an original member,
she's a key songwriter,
1393
01:19:46,156 --> 01:19:47,356
and she's irreplaceable.
1394
01:19:47,449 --> 01:19:49,326
It was like a hatchet
had come and just...
1395
01:19:49,410 --> 01:19:51,578
It was never going to
be the same after that.
1396
01:19:51,662 --> 01:19:54,873
That was it, really A piece
of the puzzle was missing.
1397
01:19:57,501 --> 01:20:01,714
I felt like the rat that had,
you know, left the sinking ship.
1398
01:20:03,340 --> 01:20:06,427
The Go-Go's as a unit worked.
1399
01:20:07,219 --> 01:20:10,556
And you take out a piece,
is the picture complete?
1400
01:20:11,974 --> 01:20:12,975
Maybe not.
1401
01:20:15,227 --> 01:20:18,522
I just thought this could
be the end of everything.
1402
01:20:18,981 --> 01:20:22,609
All I was, I was a Go-Go, that was all.
1403
01:20:23,068 --> 01:20:26,238
That meant, I could take care of my mom.
1404
01:20:27,031 --> 01:20:29,408
By this time, I'm supporting my mom.
1405
01:20:29,908 --> 01:20:33,412
It's easier to find a bass
player than it is a guitar player.
1406
01:20:33,620 --> 01:20:36,040
I'll play guitar, we'll
get a bass player.
1407
01:20:36,206 --> 01:20:38,456
Hundreds of girls wanted
to be in The Go-Go's.
1408
01:20:38,834 --> 01:20:39,877
Big surprise.
1409
01:20:42,296 --> 01:20:44,048
I really wanted Paula Jean,
1410
01:20:44,214 --> 01:20:46,466
and the other girls weren't
really agreeing with me,
1411
01:20:46,550 --> 01:20:48,594
but for some reason they acquiesced,
1412
01:20:48,802 --> 01:20:50,888
and Paula Jean became our bass player.
1413
01:20:52,765 --> 01:20:54,641
I felt like Dorothy walking into Oz,
1414
01:20:54,850 --> 01:20:57,644
because they were all
so much shorter than me.
1415
01:20:57,895 --> 01:20:59,313
I knew before I auditioned
1416
01:20:59,480 --> 01:21:02,399
that the band was having problems,
because Jane quit the band,
1417
01:21:02,483 --> 01:21:05,569
and I had read enough and
followed them enough to know
1418
01:21:05,819 --> 01:21:09,323
that things weren't going
great interpersonally.
1419
01:21:10,449 --> 01:21:12,951
So, we started rehearsing
with Paula Jean,
1420
01:21:13,160 --> 01:21:15,079
getting ready to go to Rio.
1421
01:21:15,287 --> 01:21:17,623
We're playing the
biggest show of our life.
1422
01:21:18,332 --> 01:21:20,459
It's the Rock in Rio festival.
1423
01:21:21,210 --> 01:21:22,336
Belinda!
1424
01:21:22,544 --> 01:21:25,589
Are you... What are your
expectations towards the festival?
1425
01:21:25,839 --> 01:21:27,299
It should be a lot of fun.
1426
01:21:28,759 --> 01:21:32,012
I could tell that the joy
of them playing together
1427
01:21:32,179 --> 01:21:34,223
was not what it probably once was.
1428
01:21:34,681 --> 01:21:39,186
It felt to me like they
were all... trying to muster it
1429
01:21:39,645 --> 01:21:41,397
for the occasion.
1430
01:21:42,356 --> 01:21:45,317
In Rio, this is the height
of everybody's drug intake.
1431
01:21:45,526 --> 01:21:48,487
People driving around in cabs
searching for coke all night.
1432
01:21:49,071 --> 01:21:51,115
I didn't sleep for, like, a week.
1433
01:21:54,159 --> 01:21:58,205
I'm supposed to go to sound check,
and I went out to cop some dope.
1434
01:21:58,497 --> 01:22:00,833
I was late, and I had
to make up a big lie,
1435
01:22:00,999 --> 01:22:05,087
and that's another thing with
drugs, like, you become a big liar.
1436
01:22:06,255 --> 01:22:08,799
Charlotte was so out of control
1437
01:22:08,966 --> 01:22:10,842
that Ozzy Osbourne threw
her out of his dressing room.
1438
01:22:10,926 --> 01:22:12,426
Now that's pretty fucking bad.
1439
01:22:12,511 --> 01:22:15,472
Head over heels Where should I go
1440
01:22:15,681 --> 01:22:18,267
Can't stop myself Out of control
1441
01:22:18,475 --> 01:22:21,353
Head over heels No time to think
1442
01:22:21,562 --> 01:22:24,440
Looks like the whole world's out of sync
1443
01:22:26,567 --> 01:22:28,235
The Go-Go's were a family,
1444
01:22:28,569 --> 01:22:30,696
and, you know, I think
that Gina and Kathy
1445
01:22:30,863 --> 01:22:33,240
kind of had become
the caretakers in a way,
1446
01:22:33,657 --> 01:22:35,659
trying to hold it together.
1447
01:22:39,872 --> 01:22:43,375
Charlotte was there, but
you could tell just not there.
1448
01:22:45,752 --> 01:22:49,089
It was just getting to be
where it was unsustainable.
1449
01:22:53,802 --> 01:22:58,849
Paula goes, "You guys,
Charlotte's really in trouble."
1450
01:23:00,642 --> 01:23:03,395
What? New girl says what?
1451
01:23:04,021 --> 01:23:06,621
I said, "I just really feel
like she's going to die."
1452
01:23:08,692 --> 01:23:10,610
Paula came to me one
day and said, you know,
1453
01:23:10,694 --> 01:23:13,989
"Charlotte, I know a place where
you can go to get some help."
1454
01:23:14,156 --> 01:23:16,156
And I said, "What are you talking about?"
1455
01:23:16,450 --> 01:23:21,079
She told me about, you
know, a recovery hospital,
1456
01:23:21,371 --> 01:23:23,832
you know, for addicts.
1457
01:23:24,791 --> 01:23:26,919
And then, something shifted in me.
1458
01:23:28,212 --> 01:23:29,922
I went back to Los Angeles
1459
01:23:30,088 --> 01:23:33,258
and I checked myself into
rehab with Paula's help.
1460
01:23:33,759 --> 01:23:37,179
I'm not saying it was
easy, but I was dedicated.
1461
01:23:37,638 --> 01:23:41,433
And I'm forever grateful to her
for giving me that information,
1462
01:23:41,600 --> 01:23:45,062
because it totally changed
my life and saved me.
1463
01:23:49,399 --> 01:23:53,487
When I got sober, it
was so amazing to be free
1464
01:23:53,654 --> 01:23:56,865
of that prison that I was living in.
1465
01:23:57,741 --> 01:24:01,745
As dedicated as I was
to that... To my band,
1466
01:24:01,912 --> 01:24:03,956
I was dedicated to myself.
1467
01:24:05,207 --> 01:24:07,857
When we started rehearsing
again for the fourth album,
1468
01:24:08,001 --> 01:24:11,421
I made the decision to
choose myself over the band.
1469
01:24:11,630 --> 01:24:13,980
It just wasn't working,
it wasn't going to work.
1470
01:24:14,174 --> 01:24:17,094
Paula was great, but she wasn't Jane.
1471
01:24:17,678 --> 01:24:20,180
The only decent song that came
out of it was "Mad About You."
1472
01:24:20,264 --> 01:24:22,140
They really liked "Mad About You."
1473
01:24:22,474 --> 01:24:25,602
It's a song that Paula
wrote for our band.
1474
01:24:25,894 --> 01:24:29,398
The relationships were just
disintegrating in the band.
1475
01:24:29,773 --> 01:24:33,610
Charlotte and I
discussed ending the band.
1476
01:24:36,530 --> 01:24:38,365
Gina and I are feeling more and more
1477
01:24:38,532 --> 01:24:41,410
like Charlotte and
Belinda are on one side,
1478
01:24:41,577 --> 01:24:43,477
and me and Gina are on the other side.
1479
01:24:46,623 --> 01:24:50,502
Her and Belinda called Kathy and
myself into management's office.
1480
01:24:51,587 --> 01:24:54,298
- I was like, "This is not good."
- It's not good.
1481
01:24:54,590 --> 01:24:57,634
Even now, I can't. Remembering
this makes me feel ill.
1482
01:24:58,427 --> 01:25:01,527
"We've decided to break up
the band," that was the first thing.
1483
01:25:02,055 --> 01:25:03,974
And Gina and I said, "You can't."
1484
01:25:04,141 --> 01:25:06,101
"You can't do that, it's our band too."
1485
01:25:06,727 --> 01:25:07,978
"Yes, we can."
1486
01:25:10,022 --> 01:25:15,777
Somebody said, "She writes
the hits and I am the voice."
1487
01:25:16,445 --> 01:25:18,395
"She's the voice, and I write the hits."
1488
01:25:20,240 --> 01:25:23,660
And Kathy and I were
fucking flabbergasted.
1489
01:25:23,869 --> 01:25:28,165
They completely freaked
out. Completely freaked out.
1490
01:25:28,498 --> 01:25:30,498
There was a lot of crying and screaming.
1491
01:25:30,626 --> 01:25:32,002
I definitely raged,
1492
01:25:32,210 --> 01:25:38,175
and then I dialed back the rage
and groveled and apologizing.
1493
01:25:38,759 --> 01:25:42,804
I wanted to kill both
of them. I really did.
1494
01:25:44,056 --> 01:25:45,456
After all we'd been through,
1495
01:25:45,557 --> 01:25:47,726
how could you fucking
dare say that to me?
1496
01:25:49,436 --> 01:25:51,396
I won't survive this if I stay here,
1497
01:25:51,647 --> 01:25:54,524
and I cannot risk using
and drinking again,
1498
01:25:54,733 --> 01:25:55,817
I cannot risk that.
1499
01:25:55,984 --> 01:25:57,778
What was horrible was like
1500
01:25:57,944 --> 01:26:01,198
going home from that
meeting just shattered.
1501
01:26:01,365 --> 01:26:03,241
And then, the phone rings,
1502
01:26:03,408 --> 01:26:06,912
and it's the guy from the
management company
1503
01:26:07,079 --> 01:26:10,916
and my heart just, like,
"They've changed their mind!"
1504
01:26:11,458 --> 01:26:13,126
And instead he goes,
1505
01:26:13,335 --> 01:26:15,587
"You're going to get a
call from the LA Times
1506
01:26:15,754 --> 01:26:18,004
to make a comment about
the band breaking up."
1507
01:26:18,590 --> 01:26:21,551
It's like, "What, are
you fucking kidding me?"
1508
01:26:21,760 --> 01:26:24,221
You know, it's been an hour.
1509
01:26:27,808 --> 01:26:30,727
Within months of me leaving,
the band ended up breaking up,
1510
01:26:30,936 --> 01:26:32,836
and I certainly wasn't happy about it,
1511
01:26:32,938 --> 01:26:34,940
but I also wasn't surprised either.
1512
01:26:36,483 --> 01:26:39,403
We didn't speak to each
other for five years after that.
1513
01:26:39,986 --> 01:26:45,075
Gina and Kathy, I didn't speak to.
Jane was off doing her solo record.
1514
01:26:45,283 --> 01:26:47,869
I felt the need to try something new.
1515
01:26:48,036 --> 01:26:50,997
I was also interested in
singing my own material.
1516
01:27:00,132 --> 01:27:02,175
I was used to being a big star,
1517
01:27:02,342 --> 01:27:04,553
and all of a sudden it
was like, "She sucks!"
1518
01:27:04,803 --> 01:27:07,931
I hated it so much,
and I was just so mad,
1519
01:27:08,140 --> 01:27:11,601
but now honestly, I really feel like
1520
01:27:11,768 --> 01:27:14,563
the person I am today would not exist
1521
01:27:14,730 --> 01:27:16,680
without all the failure I went through,
1522
01:27:16,773 --> 01:27:20,652
and all the success I ever had
never taught me one damn thing.
1523
01:27:20,861 --> 01:27:21,903
Never.
1524
01:27:23,530 --> 01:27:26,241
I tried so hard
1525
01:27:26,742 --> 01:27:31,413
to create another band with the chemistry
1526
01:27:31,621 --> 01:27:33,749
and the magic that The Go-Go's had,
1527
01:27:34,040 --> 01:27:37,085
and nothing I did seemed to work out.
1528
01:27:37,627 --> 01:27:38,962
I tried being a singer.
1529
01:27:39,129 --> 01:27:41,005
I never wanted to be
a singer, but I tried it.
1530
01:27:41,089 --> 01:27:43,049
I couldn't be a studio
player, because I didn't know
1531
01:27:43,133 --> 01:27:45,134
how to read music
and that wasn't my thing.
1532
01:27:45,218 --> 01:27:48,555
And so, I went out and
tried to get a solo deal.
1533
01:27:48,764 --> 01:27:52,058
I did one show at the Roxy and
got signed by Capitol Records,
1534
01:27:52,267 --> 01:27:53,977
which was great for a while.
1535
01:27:54,770 --> 01:27:56,438
And then after a few years,
1536
01:27:56,605 --> 01:27:58,981
it was almost like The Go-Go's
didn't even exist anymore.
1537
01:27:59,065 --> 01:28:00,365
It was only like, Belinda!
1538
01:28:01,902 --> 01:28:03,361
When The Go-Go's split up,
1539
01:28:03,528 --> 01:28:05,363
I guess everybody
went their separate ways,
1540
01:28:05,447 --> 01:28:07,949
but you're the only
one who really hit it big.
1541
01:28:08,116 --> 01:28:09,826
Why do you think that's the case?
1542
01:28:10,202 --> 01:28:12,302
Well, I think I definitely
had a head start
1543
01:28:12,454 --> 01:28:14,498
as being the focus of the band, which,
1544
01:28:14,664 --> 01:28:17,709
you know, people do tend to
focus on the lead singer of any band.
1545
01:28:17,793 --> 01:28:21,379
And, you know, that did
give me some advantages.
1546
01:28:22,339 --> 01:28:23,799
Belinda offered me a job.
1547
01:28:23,965 --> 01:28:27,093
She said, "Do you wanna tour
with me and write on my record?"
1548
01:28:27,260 --> 01:28:29,638
And I was so grateful
to her, because I...
1549
01:28:29,805 --> 01:28:31,723
That was still at that place in my life
1550
01:28:31,807 --> 01:28:34,518
where that was my identity, doing that,
1551
01:28:34,726 --> 01:28:38,605
and just beginning to
find out that that wasn't...
1552
01:28:38,814 --> 01:28:41,733
that wasn't the totality of who I am.
1553
01:28:42,484 --> 01:28:44,861
So, she gave me that bridge.
1554
01:28:46,154 --> 01:28:49,741
As they went on, Charlotte
was working with Belinda.
1555
01:28:49,991 --> 01:28:51,618
Jane is back in the fold.
1556
01:28:51,827 --> 01:28:53,870
Now, all of a sudden,
it's like, the three of them
1557
01:28:53,954 --> 01:28:55,539
are doing shit for Belinda.
1558
01:28:55,705 --> 01:28:59,459
I started feeling like it was a
vendetta against me and Gina.
1559
01:29:00,293 --> 01:29:01,294
It was...
1560
01:29:02,045 --> 01:29:03,380
It was horrible.
1561
01:29:05,382 --> 01:29:07,551
I just wanted to write and play drums.
1562
01:29:07,717 --> 01:29:09,553
I've written stuff for other people.
1563
01:29:10,136 --> 01:29:12,264
I had a song covered by Miley Cyrus,
1564
01:29:12,430 --> 01:29:14,474
and then four songs by Selena Gomez...
1565
01:29:15,016 --> 01:29:17,811
so I felt like, "Yeah, finally
getting what I deserve."
1566
01:29:19,896 --> 01:29:21,564
I've always known I had a book in me.
1567
01:29:21,648 --> 01:29:24,198
When I turned 40, I was
dropped by my record company
1568
01:29:24,359 --> 01:29:25,735
as a solo artist,
1569
01:29:25,944 --> 01:29:28,822
and that was actually
the beginning of, like,
1570
01:29:29,030 --> 01:29:31,080
soul searching and
what is this all about?
1571
01:29:31,324 --> 01:29:33,618
What were The Go-Go's
all about? Who am I?
1572
01:29:33,785 --> 01:29:38,039
With sobriety, my world is very
vast and bigger than it's ever been.
1573
01:29:38,248 --> 01:29:41,960
I think for me, there are a
lot of ego issues, to be honest.
1574
01:29:42,252 --> 01:29:46,423
A lot of slapping down I've needed,
1575
01:29:46,590 --> 01:29:50,010
and a lot of... I needed
a lot of humbling.
1576
01:29:50,302 --> 01:29:52,804
It's five people in this band and...
1577
01:29:54,931 --> 01:29:58,268
everybody was set on
their own sort of course.
1578
01:29:59,394 --> 01:30:01,187
But then we got back together.
1579
01:30:02,314 --> 01:30:04,065
Because the story never ends!
1580
01:30:04,900 --> 01:30:06,151
The story never ends.
1581
01:30:10,739 --> 01:30:13,366
Thank you for coming out tonight.
1582
01:30:19,706 --> 01:30:22,000
See the people walking down the street
1583
01:30:23,460 --> 01:30:27,088
As angry as I was when
they broke up the band,
1584
01:30:27,255 --> 01:30:28,673
I missed them.
1585
01:30:29,215 --> 01:30:33,136
Nobody really knows what
that felt like to be in The Go-Go's,
1586
01:30:33,511 --> 01:30:36,640
only four other people
know what that feels like.
1587
01:30:37,307 --> 01:30:38,475
And that's the bond.
1588
01:30:38,642 --> 01:30:43,939
Nothing has happened so
bad that it overshadows that.
1589
01:30:46,691 --> 01:30:49,443
I don't know how this keeps
going, I swear to Christ, I don't.
1590
01:30:49,527 --> 01:30:52,113
The Go-Go's day in Hollywood!
1591
01:30:58,119 --> 01:31:01,122
We are making Go-Go's
history with our debut
1592
01:31:01,665 --> 01:31:03,249
as Broadway songwriters.
1593
01:31:04,501 --> 01:31:08,296
You get older and you get wiser,
and you drop a lot of the bullshit.
1594
01:31:08,505 --> 01:31:11,091
We are a family, that's just what it is.
1595
01:31:11,508 --> 01:31:12,717
We got the beat
1596
01:31:12,884 --> 01:31:14,886
Everybody get on your feet
1597
01:31:15,053 --> 01:31:17,013
We know you can...
1598
01:31:17,263 --> 01:31:18,640
Can you drum?
1599
01:31:19,224 --> 01:31:20,517
Gina needs coffee.
1600
01:31:20,684 --> 01:31:23,228
- We used to have the
beat - We had the beat
1601
01:31:23,728 --> 01:31:26,106
I remember when we had
the beat! We got it back.
1602
01:31:26,314 --> 01:31:29,025
Everybody, we got the beat
1603
01:31:29,693 --> 01:31:31,820
We got the, we got the beat
1604
01:31:32,070 --> 01:31:34,948
- That was fantastic.
- That was amazing.
1605
01:31:35,532 --> 01:31:38,827
Oh, my God, do we have
the motherfucking beat.
1606
01:31:38,994 --> 01:31:40,662
- I love that.
- It was great.
1607
01:31:40,829 --> 01:31:42,371
That wasn't bad for not playing together
1608
01:31:42,455 --> 01:31:44,505
- a really long time.
- Yeah, next time...
1609
01:31:45,583 --> 01:31:48,533
Hey, it doesn't hurt to rehearse,
it only makes you tighter.
1610
01:31:49,462 --> 01:31:52,882
I think that The Go-Go's,
if you believe in karma,
1611
01:31:53,091 --> 01:31:56,011
there's a lot of karmic
ties in this band.
1612
01:31:56,511 --> 01:31:58,971
Just the fact that we've
been in each other's lives
1613
01:31:59,055 --> 01:32:01,474
for so many years, it has
to be to work out something.
1614
01:32:01,558 --> 01:32:04,519
Fair's fair, don't care
1615
01:32:04,728 --> 01:32:09,065
They may have control
but we're not scared
1616
01:32:10,233 --> 01:32:12,027
Zero fucks given
1617
01:32:12,235 --> 01:32:13,319
Oops.
1618
01:32:13,528 --> 01:32:17,032
About a year ago, I
went to a psychiatrist
1619
01:32:17,198 --> 01:32:19,909
who diagnosed me as being bipolar.
1620
01:32:20,118 --> 01:32:22,829
Wake up, can't you see
1621
01:32:23,038 --> 01:32:25,248
For the first time in my life I...
1622
01:32:25,457 --> 01:32:27,667
haven't thought of suicide in a year,
1623
01:32:27,834 --> 01:32:30,295
which is like, fucking
mind-blowing to me.
1624
01:32:30,462 --> 01:32:32,213
Do you want to decide
which key you like better?
1625
01:32:32,297 --> 01:32:33,923
- Yeah, that'd be good.
- Okay.
1626
01:32:34,090 --> 01:32:36,926
And luckily, The Go-Go's
have finally gotten to the point
1627
01:32:37,135 --> 01:32:39,971
where we actually can be
civil to each other and get along.
1628
01:32:40,055 --> 01:32:42,474
I can see the good in
everyone in the band.
1629
01:32:45,602 --> 01:32:50,315
There's a place for
us, don't look for a sign
1630
01:32:50,523 --> 01:32:52,484
Not on a map
1631
01:32:52,734 --> 01:32:54,903
It's a state of mind
1632
01:32:56,488 --> 01:32:58,406
This is club zero
1633
01:32:58,907 --> 01:33:00,575
Okay, so, verse or chorus?
1634
01:33:00,784 --> 01:33:03,369
We talked about things
we wanted to write about,
1635
01:33:03,578 --> 01:33:06,456
and we did, kind of
make a conscious decision
1636
01:33:06,623 --> 01:33:09,542
to try to write about, you
know, the place of women
1637
01:33:09,751 --> 01:33:11,795
and our future roles.
1638
01:33:11,961 --> 01:33:15,590
It's kind of a testament to
our longevity and our bond.
1639
01:33:15,757 --> 01:33:17,633
- Tenacity.
- And how we can work together.
1640
01:33:17,717 --> 01:33:20,067
That we've been able
to withstand it, I think...
1641
01:33:21,471 --> 01:33:24,265
- It was hard!
- We've been able to live through it!
1642
01:33:26,142 --> 01:33:28,603
- What were you saying, Gina?
- Wait a minute!
1643
01:33:29,437 --> 01:33:31,481
Okay, are we ready to go loud?
1644
01:33:31,689 --> 01:33:33,065
- Yeah, man.
- You wanna go loud?
1645
01:33:33,149 --> 01:33:35,193
One, two, a-one, two...
1646
01:33:41,616 --> 01:33:44,702
There's a place for
us, don't look for a sign
1647
01:33:44,911 --> 01:33:46,788
Not on a map
1648
01:33:46,996 --> 01:33:49,332
It's a state of mind
1649
01:33:50,250 --> 01:33:52,335
This is club zero
1650
01:33:54,587 --> 01:33:57,757
The rules they made are battle lines
1651
01:33:57,966 --> 01:34:00,802
The grand design is out of time
1652
01:34:01,010 --> 01:34:05,265
Hey, we've got something to say...
1653
01:34:05,473 --> 01:34:09,310
There was this power that we all felt,
1654
01:34:09,602 --> 01:34:13,148
of us together, doing what were doing.
1655
01:34:13,815 --> 01:34:19,946
We showed up as who we
were and just, against all odds,
1656
01:34:20,321 --> 01:34:22,031
busted through some ceilings.
1657
01:34:35,503 --> 01:34:36,962
I don't know what more they have to do
1658
01:34:37,046 --> 01:34:38,714
to get in the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame.
1659
01:34:38,798 --> 01:34:41,467
What the fuck? They're not?
1660
01:34:42,093 --> 01:34:44,137
Come on! Come on!
1661
01:34:44,929 --> 01:34:46,879
They're in my Rock & Roll Hall of Fame.
1662
01:34:53,605 --> 01:34:56,900
There's a place for
us, don't look for a sign
1663
01:34:57,150 --> 01:34:58,902
Not on a map
1664
01:34:59,485 --> 01:35:02,030
It's a state of mind
1665
01:35:02,739 --> 01:35:05,074
This is club zero
1666
01:35:06,784 --> 01:35:09,996
Time's up, it's the clarion call
1667
01:35:10,205 --> 01:35:14,334
'Cause zero hour is upon us all
1668
01:35:14,542 --> 01:35:16,586
Tick-tock, tick-tock
1669
01:35:19,214 --> 01:35:22,467
The rules they made are battle lines
1670
01:35:22,675 --> 01:35:25,762
The grand design is out of time
1671
01:35:25,970 --> 01:35:30,433
Hey, we've got something to say
1672
01:35:30,642 --> 01:35:32,393
Gonna make the world shake
1673
01:35:32,602 --> 01:35:35,063
Ready or not, here we are
1674
01:35:35,271 --> 01:35:38,441
Better get out of our way
1675
01:35:38,650 --> 01:35:41,694
Looking for heroes, we are club zero
1676
01:35:44,030 --> 01:35:45,865
- I love it.
- We did blow in our bras.
1677
01:35:45,949 --> 01:35:49,535
- We did blow and we gave birth.
- Yeah, it was time to have babies.
1678
01:35:49,702 --> 01:35:51,955
- Which one is that?
- She's having her baby.
1679
01:35:52,121 --> 01:35:53,665
Why am I always the baby?
1680
01:35:53,831 --> 01:35:55,958
You were always the baby
'cause you were the only one
1681
01:35:56,042 --> 01:35:57,752
that could fit between our legs.
1682
01:35:59,712 --> 01:36:02,548
Fair's fair, don't care
1683
01:36:02,757 --> 01:36:06,636
They may have control
but we're not scared
1684
01:36:08,012 --> 01:36:10,014
Zero fucks given
1685
01:36:12,058 --> 01:36:15,144
Wake up, can't you see
1686
01:36:15,311 --> 01:36:19,440
Heads up, we're the new MVPs
1687
01:36:19,649 --> 01:36:22,235
Of the twenty-first century
1688
01:36:24,445 --> 01:36:27,532
The rules they made are battle lines
1689
01:36:27,740 --> 01:36:30,827
The grand design is out of time
1690
01:36:31,119 --> 01:36:35,498
Hey, we've got something to say
1691
01:36:35,707 --> 01:36:37,417
Gonna make the world shake
1692
01:36:37,625 --> 01:36:40,253
Ready or not, here we come
1693
01:36:40,461 --> 01:36:43,548
You better get out of our way
1694
01:36:43,756 --> 01:36:46,634
We won't stop until we're done
1695
01:36:46,884 --> 01:36:49,887
Better get out of our way
1696
01:36:50,179 --> 01:36:55,810
Walking like heroes We are club zero
1697
01:37:13,703 --> 01:37:16,789
The rules they made are battle lines
1698
01:37:16,998 --> 01:37:20,126
The grand design is out of time
1699
01:37:20,335 --> 01:37:24,881
Hey, we've got something to say
1700
01:37:25,089 --> 01:37:26,549
Gonna make the world shake
1701
01:37:26,758 --> 01:37:29,552
Ready or not, here we come
1702
01:37:29,761 --> 01:37:32,847
You better get out of our way
1703
01:37:33,056 --> 01:37:35,892
We won't stop until we're done
1704
01:37:36,100 --> 01:37:39,187
Better get out of our way
1705
01:37:39,395 --> 01:37:42,398
Looking for heroes We are club zero
1706
01:37:42,607 --> 01:37:47,070
Walking like heroes We are club zero
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