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So I need you
to repeat after me.
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We are here.
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We are here!
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Women have used
their music
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as a form of resistance
for decades.
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Taking risks.
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Singing the truth,
even when the world
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is telling you to shut up.
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I think music is one
of the most powerful ways
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to put a message out there.
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♪ This girl is on fire ♪
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♪ This girl is on fire ♪
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♪ We're walking on fire ♪
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Music has
the ability to bypass...
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this, this brain.
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Music goes straight here.
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And when something
says the things
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that you may not be able
to articulate yourself,
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it becomes like part of you.
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Music is
more powerful now than ever
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because it's an example
where people come together.
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We have
an opportunity today
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that a lot of women before us
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paved the way to do,
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and that's to be as loud
and proud as possible.
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On three.
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One, two, three.
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Fuck the Supreme Court!
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Silence is sometimes
its own protest,
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but it's born of not believing
that your words matter.
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And that's where protest music,
where the songs
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and the lyricism
becomes so important.
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God put you here
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because you have
something to offer.
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Whether they like it or not,
you owe it.
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If you're passionate
about something,
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show up. It's important.
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...that silence is our enemy,
but sound is our weapon.
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Chill!
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When everything
is so desperate,
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when every day
is a matter of survival,
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I don't think you can help
but be involved.
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State by state,
with a growing number
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pushing near-total bans.
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We will shape
and mold this country.
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I will not be molded and shaped
at all anymore.
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So I don't think you have
a choice.
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How can you be an artist
and not reflect the times?
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Okay.
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♪ I shall not ♪
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♪ I shall not be moved ♪
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♪ I shall not ♪
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♪ I shall not be moved ♪
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♪ Like a tree
Planted by the water ♪
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♪ I shall not be moved ♪
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Music itself is a great way
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to broach this topic
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of what is the story
we've been told about America
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in a way that people can hear.
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When I first started thinking
about doing music as a career,
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I didn't start out thinking,
"I'm going to be an activist."
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I went to school
for classical music
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and learned how to be
a soprano,
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and I felt a little hollow.
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I was like, "What am I doing?"
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What am I doing in this
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that a million other sopranos
can't do?
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So I went back home
to North Carolina,
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and then I started to hear
the banjo,
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the big discovery which
set me off on this-this thing
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of how these activism, history,
and music kind of combine.
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I was finding out that the banjo
was invented by people
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of the African diaspora.
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And I was like, "What?"
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That was the moment
where I was like,
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"If I don't know
this massive thing,
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what else don't I know?"
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I'm of a long line of women
who starts somewhere there.
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I'm sitting here having had
a pretty darn good life.
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And what do I owe my ancestors?
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What do I owe the women
who came before me?
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I think we have
a responsibility.
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We can't write the laws,
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but maybe we can inspire
the people who do.
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Not the church,
not the state!
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Women must decide their fate!
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A sweeping,
deeply consequential decision
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from the nation's
highest court,
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ruling to overturn Roe v. Wade.
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I don't think anyone thought
that could happen.
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I don't think we still
have fully processed
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that it can happen,
and that it's happening.
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And I think the reason
we had so many big artists
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being willing to talk
about reproductive rights
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was because it was such
a shocking moment.
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Now y'all know it wouldn't be me
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if I ain't take a second
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to call out
these stupid ass men.
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I need everybody in the audience
right now to say,
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"My body,
my motherfucking choice!"
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My body,
my motherfucking choice!
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One more time! My body,
my motherfucking choice!
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My body,
my motherfucking choice!
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Drop that shit, Jay Bone.
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I am so...
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sick and tired
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of old men.
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It's been really heartening
to see a lot of Gen Z pop stars
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be so outspoken...
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So many women and so many girls
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are going to die
because of this.
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...against this really
regressive wave
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of patriarchy.
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It's never giving
a man policing my body.
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It's just crazy to me.
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I-I can't imagine anyone
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making a decision for a woman
that's not her.
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I-- That's like we've gone
back in time.
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I don't think that's something
I can sit back and just go,
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"Oh, well, hmm,
I won't say anything."
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I had to find my ways
to-to be a part of it
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while not having people
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down my throat saying,
"What do you know?"
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And it's like,
"Actually, I'm a woman.
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I know a lot more
than you think."
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Selena!
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I think I started to recognize
my platform meant something
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when I was around 16.
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I had a single mother
come up to me.
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They were Latin,
and she was in tears saying,
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"Thank you so much
for being someone
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my daughter can look up to
that looks like her."
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That kind of put a little bit
of responsibility on me.
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And then in 2020,
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I felt like I should get
politically involved.
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It was around election year,
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and I remember
I wanted to give my platform
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to other people.
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And then I ended up
interviewing Stacey.
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Stacey.
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Hello.
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I instantly felt like
she was a friend for life.
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And I believe that we, you know,
believe in the same things.
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Please grab some friends
and vote early.
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Go to StaceyAbrams.com
to learn more.
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My mission, my work
is to amplify voices
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that are marginalized
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and empower people to organize
around their beliefs.
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Music can do the same thing.
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The fights that we're in,
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they can be overwhelming
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and we lose the thread.
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Music lets us find it again.
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If we work, if we fight,
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if we resist, we can have more.
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And this music reminds women
that we have been here before,
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we have pushed through,
and we will do so again.
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Free our sisters,
free ourselves!
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The status quo
is being challenged
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by the women's
liberation movement.
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Today, it's still
a man's world.
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And just look at it.
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Women were
paid an average of 59 cents
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for every dollar a man earned.
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In some states,
women
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cannot own property
in their own name.
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Most women
are raised to believe
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their true role is that
of wife and mother.
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But some women are questioning
whether this is so.
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Loretta Lynn was this
well-loved popular musician.
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She had won multiple awards,
had number one hits,
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and I mean, at the time,
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country music was largely known
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to be a little more
conservative.
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She released a song praising
the birth control pill.
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This was a really scandalous
thing to do.
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♪ There's a-gonna be
Some changes made ♪
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♪ Right here on Nursery Hill ♪
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♪ You set this chicken
Your last time ♪
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♪ 'Cause now I've got
The pill ♪
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It was this anthem
of a woman taking control
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not only of her body,
but her future too.
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And the song started getting
banned from country radio.
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What about women, Loretta?
Have they said,
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"Boy, it's about time
somebody said something"?
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On radio stations,
on television,
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"The Pill" was a huge hit.
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It's still shocking to me
that she was able to do that.
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With that one song,
Loretta just blew up
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what was acceptable
for women to sing about.
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And she did it
so unapologetically
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that she opened doors
for other women in music.
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Thank you.
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Liberation is here.
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No area of male-dominated
American culture is spared.
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Women wanted to
equally participate in society.
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Not gonna sit quietly
any longer!
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And a big part
of that meant changing
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what a woman's role was
and how she was perceived.
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A coalition
of liberation groups
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invaded the offices
of the Ladies' Home Journal.
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We demand that the magazine
ceased publishing advertisements
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that degrade women.
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- Here's one!
- Here's one!
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"Made for a woman's
extra feelings."
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Secret deodorant.
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Oh!
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♪ I am woman, hear me roar ♪
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♪ In numbers too big
To ignore ♪
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♪ And I know too much
To go back and pretend ♪
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Women are told so much,
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and it gets thrown at them
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in the form of advertising
and just the general attitudes
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of family and friends
and society.
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In general, you are weak.
You are inferior.
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What are the main
things you want equality in?
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Probably the basic
underlying things.
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Just a general change
of attitude toward women
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in general, and on the part
of women themselves.
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Hmm. Well,
your song, "I Am Woman,"
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it suggests a toughness,
almost an aggressiveness.
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Uh, "I am strong,
I am invincible..."
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It's a positive statement, okay?
Positive.
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- ♪ I am strong ♪
- ♪ Strong ♪
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- ♪ I am invincible ♪
- ♪ Invincible ♪
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♪ I am woman ♪
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Songs like
"I Am Woman" resonate
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because they're simply
celebrating being female.
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And it's this moment
where she's inviting
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other women to own their power.
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This idea gets carried forward
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into the next generation
of women artists,
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who are bigger and bolder
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about saying who they are
and what they want.
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The music industry
is designed to be reductive.
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And so women have to work
really hard
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to kind of break out of that.
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And part of that is eagerness
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to kind of express that women
have-- contain multitudes.
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It took some effort
and some revolution
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and radical thinking
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to present this reality,
or truth,
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that we are not one thing
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and we're not even
like two things.
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We're like a million things.
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I am very... meticulous
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about my self-expression
and my art.
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I'll go to great lengths
to make sure
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that everything turns out pure
for me.
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I was living in New York.
This is in the '80s.
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And Valerie Simpson
and Nick Ashford said,
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"We're gonna write songs
for you." So they did.
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And I think probably
the first song they wrote for me
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was "I'm Every Woman."
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♪ I'm every woman ♪
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♪ It's all in me ♪
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♪ Anything you want done, baby,
I'll do it naturally ♪
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When I...
I listened to the lyrics,
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I said, "Oh dear."
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I was all self-conscious
and shit, and I was like,
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"I'm not every woman.
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How dare I say
I'm every freaking woman.
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I'm not."
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I felt uncomfortable for many,
many years singing that song,
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but I had a feeling that it was
something bigger than me.
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Chaka Khan, she set the scene.
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She was... she was
the blueprint.
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And you saw that confidence,
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not just in the music,
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but in the performances
from that era.
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So, like Tina Turner with
"You Better Be Good to Me."
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♪ Oh, you better be good
To me ♪
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Diana Ross,
"I'm Coming Out."
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♪ I'm coming out ♪
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♪ I want the world... ♪
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And Donna Summer.
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She really moved the needle
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with videos like
"She Works Hard for the Money."
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♪ She works hard
For the money ♪
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♪ So you better
Treat her right ♪
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I really believe that music
is the purest form
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of identity expression
that exists.
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And these self-ownership
anthems were celebrating
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what had been won by women
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while also demanding
so much more.
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A lot of that fight for more
was happening in the workplace.
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♪ Tumble out of bed
And stumble to the kitchen ♪
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♪ Pour myself
A cup of ambition ♪
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♪ And yawn and stretch
And try to come to life ♪
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Dolly wrote "9 to 5"
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as a theme song
for a movie by the same name,
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which was this satire
about these three secretaries
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who plotted revenge
on their super sexist boss.
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...Rhodes,
she's gonna try and rope this--
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She's already got him down.
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If I wasn't in the scene,
I was there every day
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and I would just be like,
you know,
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'cause I couldn't get
a guitar out on the set.
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So I would just kind of...
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You gotta have acrylic nails
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to make
that real percussive sound.
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But I would just-- I thought
it sounded like a typewriter.
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Can you hear that?
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- Yeah.
- ♪ Working 9 to 5 ♪
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♪ What a way to make a living ♪
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♪ Working 9 to 5 ♪
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♪ What a way to make a living ♪
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♪ Barely gettin' by ♪
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♪ It's all takin'
And no givin' ♪
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♪ They just use your mind... ♪
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With "9 to 5,"
what Dolly did was take
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a very real subject
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and make it light
and approachable and fun,
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which is kind of how
she approached a lot of things.
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I'd like to know.
Do you sing in the shower?
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Do I sing
in the shower?
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No, but I don't wash
on stage either.
320
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Dolly Parton is
herself an act of revolution.
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I don't want to meet
a lot of famous people.
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I'm not interested.
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She's one I would want to meet.
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Just to say, "Good God, you go."
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The way that she came
from nothing.
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And the way
that she has written
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so many incredible songs.
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♪ And if you don't love me,
Leave me ♪
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♪ And don't let it trouble
Your mind ♪
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"Don't let it trouble
your mind."
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When I'm out the door,
don't let it trouble your mind.
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I'm gonna be fine.
333
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She stood up for herself.
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And she looks the way she looks
335
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'cause that's the way
she wants to look.
336
00:16:06,882 --> 00:16:08,426
And she's very clear about that.
337
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I enjoy the big hair
and the gaudy clothes.
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And it's-it's a costume.
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It's part of what people
have come to know me as.
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And I don't like to be ordinary.
I don't like to be stylish.
341
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It's far too easy to be stylish.
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I just loved her
as a businesswoman.
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She had big boobs.
Everybody talked about it.
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They looked down on her for it,
and she was just like,
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"This is me,
and I'm gonna love myself."
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00:16:35,161 --> 00:16:37,370
I'm sure of myself
as a person.
347
00:16:37,371 --> 00:16:38,998
I'm sure of my talent.
348
00:16:39,124 --> 00:16:40,959
I like the kind of person
that I am.
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Dolly had plenty of reason
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to be sure of herself
and her talent.
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She was part of a league
of female musicians
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that were breaking new ground
353
00:16:50,592 --> 00:16:53,555
and shattering expectations
left and right.
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My whole life, I've only done
the stuff that I admired,
355
00:16:59,269 --> 00:17:01,102
and if I admired it,
I tried to emulate it.
356
00:17:01,103 --> 00:17:02,395
And I admired Dolly Parton,
357
00:17:02,396 --> 00:17:04,482
and I admired Emmylou Harris
tremendously.
358
00:17:05,650 --> 00:17:07,152
One day Emmy called me up
and said,
359
00:17:07,277 --> 00:17:09,320
"Dolly Parton's at my house.
Why don't you come over?"
360
00:17:09,446 --> 00:17:12,490
It was a 45-minute drive,
but I got there in about 20.
361
00:17:12,615 --> 00:17:15,535
We did a Carter song,
"Bury Me Beneath the Willow,"
362
00:17:15,660 --> 00:17:17,243
and we went, "Wow."
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00:17:17,244 --> 00:17:21,831
♪ So bury me
Beneath the willow ♪
364
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♪ Under the weeping
Willow tree ♪
365
00:17:25,044 --> 00:17:28,046
I jam with other
singers all the time, you know.
366
00:17:28,047 --> 00:17:29,883
But this sounded different.
367
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If you're singing a song
or listening to a song,
368
00:17:33,427 --> 00:17:36,637
and you suddenly have a feeling
you didn't realize you had,
369
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that's when music
is doing its job.
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00:17:39,309 --> 00:17:40,892
And it was
very musically satisfying
371
00:17:40,893 --> 00:17:42,436
to sing with those two girls.
372
00:17:46,900 --> 00:17:50,028
The trio was this
powerhouse supergroup of women
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who had really taken control
over their music and careers.
374
00:17:54,491 --> 00:17:56,449
And Linda Ronstadt
was not someone
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who was gonna be defined
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by the conventions
of the industry.
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00:18:00,622 --> 00:18:03,956
♪ I'm going back someday ♪
378
00:18:03,957 --> 00:18:05,833
♪ Come what may ♪
379
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♪ To Blue Bayou ♪
380
00:18:08,338 --> 00:18:10,004
And I remember hearing
"Blue Bayou."
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00:18:10,005 --> 00:18:13,885
I think I was probably 17.
382
00:18:14,928 --> 00:18:18,846
My mom told me that
I looked like Linda Ronstadt,
383
00:18:18,847 --> 00:18:21,059
and she goes, "You should
listen to her music."
384
00:18:21,184 --> 00:18:24,185
She has an incredible voice,
like, "You're No Good."
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00:18:24,186 --> 00:18:26,646
♪ You're no good,
You're no good ♪
386
00:18:26,647 --> 00:18:27,732
♪ You're no good ♪
387
00:18:27,857 --> 00:18:30,151
♪ Baby, you're no good ♪
388
00:18:30,777 --> 00:18:32,318
Completely fell in love.
389
00:18:32,319 --> 00:18:35,907
Those songs to me are so...
390
00:18:36,866 --> 00:18:40,451
They're like, um,
the Taylor Swift of that time,
391
00:18:40,452 --> 00:18:42,662
you know,
that-that powerful, like,
392
00:18:42,663 --> 00:18:44,749
"Oh, yes, I deserve the best.
393
00:18:44,874 --> 00:18:49,502
And I know exactly where I want
to stand and who I am."
394
00:18:49,503 --> 00:18:51,671
And that's vulnerability
and strength.
395
00:18:51,672 --> 00:18:55,717
And I think that every girl
can relate.
396
00:18:55,718 --> 00:18:57,510
"When Will I Be Loved,"
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00:18:57,511 --> 00:19:00,807
it's kind of an upbeat song,
but it makes me emotional.
398
00:19:01,599 --> 00:19:06,271
♪ When will I be loved? ♪
399
00:19:06,980 --> 00:19:08,855
She was powerful.
400
00:19:08,856 --> 00:19:11,609
She was a huge part of music.
401
00:19:11,735 --> 00:19:14,736
She was with the Stones,
Dolly Parton,
402
00:19:14,737 --> 00:19:18,865
and she was the first woman
to headline full arena tours.
403
00:19:18,866 --> 00:19:21,159
She was her own trailblazer,
404
00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:24,579
and she knew deep down
that it was important for her
405
00:19:24,580 --> 00:19:27,125
to get in touch with her roots
406
00:19:27,250 --> 00:19:29,418
and to do something
that was daring.
407
00:19:32,756 --> 00:19:36,342
I think everybody did not want
her doing a Spanish album.
408
00:20:07,624 --> 00:20:10,085
She ended up
winning a Grammy,
409
00:20:11,002 --> 00:20:13,127
and the album is still
the biggest selling
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00:20:13,128 --> 00:20:16,341
non-English-language record
in American history.
411
00:20:18,385 --> 00:20:19,967
Women like Linda Ronstadt,
412
00:20:19,968 --> 00:20:23,471
who pushed to embody
their heritage, set the stage
413
00:20:23,472 --> 00:20:26,391
for non-English-speaking
artists of today.
414
00:20:26,392 --> 00:20:29,102
There is a direct line
to Gloria Estefan,
415
00:20:29,103 --> 00:20:31,270
Selena Quintanilla, J.Lo,
416
00:20:31,271 --> 00:20:35,942
and full circle with artists
like Rosalia and Karol G today
417
00:20:35,943 --> 00:20:37,568
who are dominating the charts
418
00:20:37,569 --> 00:20:39,948
without making albums
in English.
419
00:20:40,615 --> 00:20:42,990
There's a lot
to be said about women taking
420
00:20:42,991 --> 00:20:46,204
what is considered normal
and turning it on its head.
421
00:20:47,372 --> 00:20:49,580
When did you decide
to be larger than life?
422
00:20:49,581 --> 00:20:51,791
When did I decide
to be myself, really?
423
00:20:51,792 --> 00:20:53,626
I think that's what
it comes down to.
424
00:20:53,627 --> 00:20:56,214
You have to fearlessly go
into this madness,
425
00:20:56,339 --> 00:20:58,631
and you have to find your walk
426
00:20:58,632 --> 00:21:00,093
and you stick to it.
427
00:21:00,218 --> 00:21:02,093
If you stick to it
428
00:21:02,094 --> 00:21:04,304
and are true
to that and yourself...
429
00:21:07,267 --> 00:21:10,228
I can't think of
much else that really matters.
430
00:21:12,856 --> 00:21:16,401
The '90s are gonna make
the '60s look like the '50s.
431
00:21:16,526 --> 00:21:21,112
It was awesome
to be a little girl in the '90s
432
00:21:21,113 --> 00:21:24,490
in a time when so many
powerful women were coming up.
433
00:21:24,491 --> 00:21:27,412
We had the first female
attorney general,
434
00:21:27,537 --> 00:21:29,328
secretary of state,
435
00:21:29,329 --> 00:21:31,289
and the number of women
in the Senate
436
00:21:31,290 --> 00:21:33,918
had gone from two to twelve.
437
00:21:34,627 --> 00:21:36,671
I can be anything I want to be.
It's the '90s.
438
00:21:38,214 --> 00:21:40,592
Women were given these platforms
439
00:21:40,717 --> 00:21:43,218
that they may not have had
before.
440
00:21:44,346 --> 00:21:46,637
But, you know,
at the same time,
441
00:21:46,638 --> 00:21:49,515
you would see like
Girls Gone Wild ads on
442
00:21:49,516 --> 00:21:50,977
late at night.
443
00:21:53,313 --> 00:21:55,355
We saw this dichotomy
in popular culture
444
00:21:55,356 --> 00:21:59,650
and outright hostility
in the media towards women.
445
00:21:59,651 --> 00:22:02,280
Monica also said
that, uh, President Clinton
446
00:22:02,405 --> 00:22:04,991
would often compliment her
on her figure.
447
00:22:05,116 --> 00:22:06,240
If you didn't think this guy
448
00:22:06,241 --> 00:22:08,201
was the biggest liar
in the world before...
449
00:22:08,202 --> 00:22:09,621
You know, the last time
I saw you,
450
00:22:09,746 --> 00:22:11,289
were you this weight
or a different weight?
451
00:22:11,414 --> 00:22:12,497
I was a little skinnier then.
452
00:22:12,498 --> 00:22:14,000
- What's your name?
- Heather.
453
00:22:14,125 --> 00:22:17,377
Well, buddy. Heather, she's got
a fresh little crumpet.
454
00:22:17,378 --> 00:22:20,298
Are you guys ready
for your foxy boxers?
455
00:22:20,423 --> 00:22:24,469
If I don't get you to show
your breasts, I will get fired.
456
00:22:28,139 --> 00:22:29,555
Bands like Bikini Kill
457
00:22:29,556 --> 00:22:31,224
were not here for that.
458
00:22:31,225 --> 00:22:34,229
This is for all those fuckers!
459
00:22:35,980 --> 00:22:37,982
Well, it was really hard
in the '90s
460
00:22:38,108 --> 00:22:40,442
to be a woman
in a feminist band.
461
00:22:41,945 --> 00:22:43,861
There were always feminists
in punk. Always.
462
00:22:43,862 --> 00:22:45,196
From the very beginning.
463
00:22:45,197 --> 00:22:46,449
But it had changed.
464
00:22:47,450 --> 00:22:50,535
Punk started as the soundtrack
to class warfare,
465
00:22:50,536 --> 00:22:53,832
and then it became about guys
who were, like, mad
466
00:22:53,957 --> 00:22:55,916
their mom wouldn't make them
a sandwich.
467
00:23:01,131 --> 00:23:03,341
As someone who was going
to shows, putting on shows,
468
00:23:03,466 --> 00:23:05,051
very involved
in the punk community,
469
00:23:05,176 --> 00:23:06,845
and I'm like, "Seriously?"
470
00:23:09,347 --> 00:23:12,350
I worked at a domestic violence
and rape relief crisis center
471
00:23:12,475 --> 00:23:15,643
when I was from 19 to about 24,
472
00:23:15,644 --> 00:23:17,812
and that really informed
the way I wrote lyrics
473
00:23:17,813 --> 00:23:19,274
and what I wrote about.
474
00:23:21,067 --> 00:23:24,902
I was so full of all of
this crisis and rage and pain,
475
00:23:24,903 --> 00:23:29,242
and like, how could I process
that without music?
476
00:23:40,337 --> 00:23:42,881
Girls always get pushed to the
back, and it's all this, like,
477
00:23:43,006 --> 00:23:45,923
sweaty boy, long hair,
beer belly thing in the front.
478
00:23:45,924 --> 00:23:49,095
Girls need to reclaim the scene
for themselves, I think.
479
00:23:50,180 --> 00:23:51,556
It did feel radical
480
00:23:51,681 --> 00:23:53,767
and it did feel
really dangerous.
481
00:23:54,351 --> 00:23:56,394
Men were standing up
and yelling,
482
00:23:56,519 --> 00:23:59,439
"Shut up and play the song.
Take it off."
483
00:24:09,074 --> 00:24:10,865
We really needed
to create community.
484
00:24:10,866 --> 00:24:12,911
So we started getting names
485
00:24:13,036 --> 00:24:14,786
of girls and women
who came to our shows
486
00:24:14,787 --> 00:24:17,040
and then inviting them
to come to our next gig.
487
00:24:17,624 --> 00:24:21,209
Eventually, me and my friend
Allison Wolfe from Bratmobile,
488
00:24:21,210 --> 00:24:24,464
we were like, "We're gonna have
a meeting with girl punks."
489
00:24:25,882 --> 00:24:28,426
But everyone had
horror stories.
490
00:24:28,551 --> 00:24:29,884
It started feeling like, "Hey,
491
00:24:29,885 --> 00:24:31,846
you know what people want?
They want support."
492
00:24:32,389 --> 00:24:33,598
People started skill-sharing.
493
00:24:33,723 --> 00:24:34,847
"Do you want to start a band?
494
00:24:34,848 --> 00:24:36,516
Do you want to start a press
495
00:24:36,517 --> 00:24:38,311
where we put out
a bunch of fan zines?"
496
00:24:38,436 --> 00:24:40,561
Like, "What do you want to do?"
497
00:24:40,562 --> 00:24:43,817
Eventually, the meetings became
known as riot grrrl meetings.
498
00:24:45,068 --> 00:24:49,028
Riot grrrl was not just
a genre of music.
499
00:24:49,029 --> 00:24:50,905
It was a movement.
500
00:24:50,906 --> 00:24:54,158
If you're a racist,
homophobic, sexist,
501
00:24:54,159 --> 00:24:56,411
or just a plain
fucking asshole,
502
00:24:56,412 --> 00:24:58,039
you will be asked to leave.
503
00:25:09,592 --> 00:25:11,759
I started saying
"girls to the front" at shows
504
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:15,096
because why were we printing up
lyric sheets
505
00:25:15,097 --> 00:25:16,683
with our words on them
506
00:25:16,808 --> 00:25:18,391
to hand them out to dudes?
507
00:25:18,392 --> 00:25:20,020
That's not who I made them for.
508
00:25:20,812 --> 00:25:22,437
So I needed them to see
509
00:25:22,438 --> 00:25:25,273
Kathi's hands on the bass
and how easy it was.
510
00:25:25,274 --> 00:25:27,360
How are they gonna start bands
if they're stuck in the back
511
00:25:27,485 --> 00:25:29,320
where they can't even see?
512
00:25:29,446 --> 00:25:32,405
We wanted to have
that physical connection
513
00:25:32,406 --> 00:25:33,615
because connection is joy.
514
00:25:38,705 --> 00:25:42,081
Their movement
was about raising up women,
515
00:25:42,082 --> 00:25:45,877
and "Rebel Girl"
is this rallying cry
516
00:25:45,878 --> 00:25:47,839
for what this movement is.
517
00:25:54,679 --> 00:25:55,928
When I wrote "Rebel Girl,"
518
00:25:55,929 --> 00:25:58,183
I was really working
with what it was like
519
00:25:58,308 --> 00:26:00,185
when I was a kid,
520
00:26:00,310 --> 00:26:02,268
before I sort of
got tamped down
521
00:26:02,269 --> 00:26:03,855
and made to feel less than.
522
00:26:04,564 --> 00:26:07,734
I remember watching my sister
ride around on her big wheel,
523
00:26:07,859 --> 00:26:09,569
and I just thought
she was the coolest,
524
00:26:09,694 --> 00:26:11,863
and all the girls
I had crushes on
525
00:26:11,988 --> 00:26:13,946
in junior high and high school.
526
00:26:13,947 --> 00:26:16,908
I was just thinking about all
these amazing women I knew.
527
00:26:16,909 --> 00:26:18,993
And it just sort of came out.
528
00:26:18,994 --> 00:26:22,789
♪ Rebel girl ♪
529
00:26:22,790 --> 00:26:26,125
This whole movement set
the tone for what would come.
530
00:26:26,126 --> 00:26:27,545
♪ Rebel girl ♪
531
00:26:27,671 --> 00:26:29,170
♪ Rebel girl ♪
532
00:26:29,171 --> 00:26:30,715
♪ I really like you ♪
533
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,883
♪ I really wanna be
Your best friend ♪
534
00:26:33,884 --> 00:26:38,013
♪ Be my rebel girl ♪
535
00:26:40,141 --> 00:26:42,894
In the '90s,
there was this really angry,
536
00:26:43,019 --> 00:26:46,731
subversive, forceful thing
happening with punk rock.
537
00:26:47,857 --> 00:26:50,235
At the same time,
there were these parallel waves
538
00:26:50,360 --> 00:26:53,986
of feminism happening
in other genres,
539
00:26:53,987 --> 00:26:57,283
and this was especially notable
in women's hip hop.
540
00:27:01,871 --> 00:27:04,706
In the '90s, you kind of
saw a lot of gangsta rap
541
00:27:04,707 --> 00:27:06,541
being more in the forefront,
542
00:27:06,542 --> 00:27:09,293
and women in gangsta rap
543
00:27:09,294 --> 00:27:11,589
were not
multi-dimensional figures.
544
00:27:12,424 --> 00:27:15,050
You had songs like
"A Bitch Iz a Bitch."
545
00:27:20,890 --> 00:27:23,977
During my teenage years, I was
kinda like bopping along to it.
546
00:27:24,102 --> 00:27:25,309
Kind of like...
547
00:27:25,310 --> 00:27:26,729
this is not quite right.
548
00:27:28,815 --> 00:27:32,066
There had to be, at some point,
women breaking through
549
00:27:32,067 --> 00:27:33,526
and challenging the system.
550
00:27:33,527 --> 00:27:36,404
That's where we get women
like MC Lyte,
551
00:27:36,405 --> 00:27:38,906
Queen Latifah, Salt-N-Pepa,
552
00:27:38,907 --> 00:27:42,577
sort of pushing back
against this dominant archetype.
553
00:27:42,578 --> 00:27:44,287
♪ Who you callin' a bitch? ♪
554
00:27:44,288 --> 00:27:46,247
♪ Yeah,
You gotta let them know ♪
555
00:27:46,248 --> 00:27:47,667
♪ U-N-I-T-Y ♪
556
00:27:48,168 --> 00:27:49,834
I was very lucky
that I had friends
557
00:27:49,835 --> 00:27:52,337
who turned me on to lots
of different kinds of music.
558
00:27:52,338 --> 00:27:54,922
And when I heard "U.N.I.T.Y.,"
559
00:27:54,923 --> 00:27:56,676
I was like, "This is different."
560
00:27:57,260 --> 00:27:59,679
To be talking
about street harassment
561
00:27:59,804 --> 00:28:02,015
in a song that's on the radio,
562
00:28:02,140 --> 00:28:03,641
that everyone's listening to,
563
00:28:03,767 --> 00:28:06,267
was absolutely out of control.
564
00:28:06,268 --> 00:28:09,103
♪ I walked past these dudes,
When they passed me ♪
565
00:28:09,104 --> 00:28:11,649
♪ One of em' felt my booty,
He was nasty ♪
566
00:28:12,609 --> 00:28:15,276
She put on paper
an experience
567
00:28:15,277 --> 00:28:17,445
that women could relate to,
568
00:28:17,446 --> 00:28:20,448
and that hadn't been done
in that way before,
569
00:28:20,449 --> 00:28:22,241
on a rap song.
570
00:28:22,242 --> 00:28:27,749
It opens the lane
for this expression of anti.
571
00:28:31,461 --> 00:28:34,506
You know, I think a great way
to spread a message
572
00:28:34,631 --> 00:28:37,050
is for it to come across
as authentic.
573
00:28:37,175 --> 00:28:39,967
But it's kind of where
the authenticity feels
574
00:28:39,968 --> 00:28:43,098
shocking in a way
when we see it.
575
00:28:43,682 --> 00:28:46,432
With the '90s, what we saw
576
00:28:46,433 --> 00:28:48,810
was this reclamation of sex
577
00:28:48,811 --> 00:28:50,812
with artists like Lil' Kim
578
00:28:50,813 --> 00:28:53,024
and Foxy Brown
and Missy Elliott.
579
00:28:53,149 --> 00:28:55,149
♪ We got sex appeal,
I'ma keep it real ♪
580
00:28:55,150 --> 00:28:57,276
♪ If I didn't have a deal,
I'd still be worth a mill' ♪
581
00:28:57,277 --> 00:28:59,987
They were showing
that women
582
00:28:59,988 --> 00:29:01,866
and particularly,
you know, Black women
583
00:29:01,991 --> 00:29:03,576
can own sexuality.
584
00:29:05,036 --> 00:29:07,787
There's some subversion
at play.
585
00:29:07,788 --> 00:29:10,083
And "subversion"
actually is the word
586
00:29:10,208 --> 00:29:13,292
that I would most apply
to artists like Salt-N-Pepa
587
00:29:13,293 --> 00:29:16,462
who flipped the script
a lot of times.
588
00:29:16,463 --> 00:29:18,798
♪ Let's talk about sex, baby ♪
589
00:29:18,799 --> 00:29:19,926
♪ Let's talk about you and me ♪
590
00:29:20,051 --> 00:29:22,176
There's a way
that musicians
591
00:29:22,177 --> 00:29:24,095
can, like, sneak a message in,
592
00:29:24,096 --> 00:29:26,389
and "Let's Talk About Sex"
is the opposite.
593
00:29:26,390 --> 00:29:27,807
♪ I won't get got,
I'm on the pill ♪
594
00:29:27,808 --> 00:29:29,559
♪ Until the sores, spores ♪
595
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:30,852
♪ And stuff pour
Down your drawers ♪
596
00:29:30,853 --> 00:29:31,896
♪ He gave it to you ♪
597
00:29:32,022 --> 00:29:33,022
♪ And now it's all yours ♪
598
00:29:35,191 --> 00:29:37,859
I think that we need to
really think about how artists
599
00:29:37,860 --> 00:29:40,153
are not just building
their own careers,
600
00:29:40,154 --> 00:29:42,407
but really building out culture.
601
00:29:42,532 --> 00:29:44,576
It's not just about making
the music.
602
00:29:44,701 --> 00:29:46,826
It's about engaging
with the community
603
00:29:46,827 --> 00:29:48,580
that the music is about.
604
00:29:49,539 --> 00:29:51,458
We come in contact
with a lot of people
605
00:29:51,583 --> 00:29:53,084
that we became close with
606
00:29:53,209 --> 00:29:56,044
as far as AIDS,
you know, HIV positive.
607
00:29:56,045 --> 00:29:58,965
That's what really made us open
our eyes and be like,
608
00:29:59,090 --> 00:30:00,800
"Wow, you know,
this can happen to anybody."
609
00:30:00,925 --> 00:30:02,761
- Anybody.
- We feel, as rap artists,
610
00:30:02,886 --> 00:30:05,845
we have a responsibility to
the teenagers that listen to us,
611
00:30:05,846 --> 00:30:07,974
to let them know
it can happen to you too.
612
00:30:09,684 --> 00:30:12,643
Early hip hop
movement was really rooted
613
00:30:12,644 --> 00:30:16,316
in poor Black and Brown
communities.
614
00:30:16,900 --> 00:30:18,858
And all of these folks
that are talking
615
00:30:18,859 --> 00:30:22,528
about really important things
that are also in schools,
616
00:30:22,529 --> 00:30:26,407
they're singing verses that
young people needed to hear.
617
00:30:26,408 --> 00:30:28,995
♪ Girls, you know
You'd better watch out ♪
618
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:30,953
Being a kid, I fell asleep
619
00:30:30,954 --> 00:30:32,791
to The Miseducation
of Lauryn Hill.
620
00:30:32,916 --> 00:30:34,916
And I loved that album.
621
00:30:34,917 --> 00:30:36,250
Her voice was so powerful
622
00:30:36,251 --> 00:30:38,797
and just how she observed
the world.
623
00:30:40,423 --> 00:30:43,176
That album is structured
through the lens of a classroom.
624
00:30:44,010 --> 00:30:45,804
She's using that framing
625
00:30:45,929 --> 00:30:47,679
as a way to talk
about the importance
626
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:51,976
of talking to kids
about the ideas on the album.
627
00:30:53,311 --> 00:30:55,814
She's talking
about motherhood,
628
00:30:55,939 --> 00:30:58,149
she's talking about career,
629
00:30:58,274 --> 00:31:01,027
she's talking about
an extremely emotional breakup.
630
00:31:02,112 --> 00:31:04,862
But Miss Hill
was sort of saying to women,
631
00:31:04,863 --> 00:31:07,158
"Think twice, be careful,
protect yourself."
632
00:31:07,826 --> 00:31:11,619
Her album was very much
speaking about culture
633
00:31:11,620 --> 00:31:14,165
and the experience as a woman,
as a Black woman,
634
00:31:14,290 --> 00:31:17,043
and I feel like it's not
really easy to put into words
635
00:31:17,168 --> 00:31:19,504
what that does for you.
636
00:31:19,629 --> 00:31:21,589
But the representation
was everything.
637
00:31:22,298 --> 00:31:24,799
Since Miseducation,
everybody's been begging you,
638
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:26,761
"Come on, Lauryn,
give us something!"
639
00:31:27,971 --> 00:31:31,224
There's a lot that could force
an individual to compromise,
640
00:31:31,349 --> 00:31:33,226
and to me, for me to make music,
641
00:31:33,351 --> 00:31:35,309
it doesn't really make sense
for me to make music
642
00:31:35,310 --> 00:31:38,063
if I can't make something
that has a purpose.
643
00:31:41,985 --> 00:31:43,651
Lauryn is notorious,
obviously,
644
00:31:43,652 --> 00:31:46,573
because she's sort of retreated
from the spotlight.
645
00:31:47,741 --> 00:31:49,657
The costs
have been really high, like,
646
00:31:49,658 --> 00:31:52,871
this is the toll
of this business.
647
00:31:53,413 --> 00:31:56,956
I feel really moved by her
unwillingness to compromise.
648
00:31:56,957 --> 00:31:58,710
I'm still impressed by it.
649
00:31:59,169 --> 00:32:01,796
It's not always
the exact same contour of fight.
650
00:32:02,380 --> 00:32:04,673
But there's always
something more to be done.
651
00:32:07,010 --> 00:32:10,261
We have a common bond
that should help us transcend
652
00:32:10,262 --> 00:32:11,973
the next hard thing we do.
653
00:32:14,642 --> 00:32:17,562
No justice, no peace!
654
00:32:17,687 --> 00:32:20,273
There are certain moments
of rupture that are important.
655
00:32:21,107 --> 00:32:22,857
Demonstrations erupting today
656
00:32:22,858 --> 00:32:24,903
in the name of George Floyd.
657
00:32:25,695 --> 00:32:29,074
Protestors flooding the streets
and calling for justice.
658
00:32:29,199 --> 00:32:31,616
Floyd, an unarmed Black man,
659
00:32:31,617 --> 00:32:33,826
died after being cuffed
and pinned to the ground
660
00:32:33,827 --> 00:32:35,080
by an officer's knee.
661
00:32:35,622 --> 00:32:38,667
Stop killing Black people!
662
00:32:39,584 --> 00:32:41,959
Activism, a lot of times,
is just like what's going on
663
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:45,090
in your community that
kind of forces you to activate.
664
00:32:45,590 --> 00:32:48,841
The shock and horror
of what happened in 2020
665
00:32:48,842 --> 00:32:51,636
was so much
for everyone to bear.
666
00:32:51,637 --> 00:32:54,391
A moment that big
wakes people up.
667
00:32:55,100 --> 00:32:56,643
It means you have
to be present,
668
00:32:56,768 --> 00:32:57,936
you have to be listening,
669
00:32:58,061 --> 00:32:59,104
you have to be learning,
670
00:32:59,229 --> 00:33:01,896
and you have to be speaking
about it.
671
00:33:01,897 --> 00:33:03,524
Shut it down!
672
00:33:07,237 --> 00:33:08,947
I can't breathe!
673
00:33:10,073 --> 00:33:11,531
I can't breathe!
674
00:33:11,532 --> 00:33:14,033
I was in the Bay Area,
at my mom's house,
675
00:33:14,034 --> 00:33:16,830
and I was seeing people
marching outside and, you know,
676
00:33:16,955 --> 00:33:18,623
on the news and on social media.
677
00:33:18,748 --> 00:33:21,249
I had to turn it off because
you're just watching that video
678
00:33:21,250 --> 00:33:25,547
over and over again,
and it's really, um, painful.
679
00:33:26,965 --> 00:33:28,715
And I had this old guitar
that I've had
680
00:33:28,716 --> 00:33:31,718
since I was like nine years old
and I just picked it up.
681
00:33:31,719 --> 00:33:33,886
I started playing those chords
and singing that chorus.
682
00:33:33,887 --> 00:33:35,889
♪ I can't breathe ♪
683
00:33:37,392 --> 00:33:40,520
♪ You're taking my life
From me ♪
684
00:33:42,022 --> 00:33:45,483
It is a painful thing
to tell a dark story.
685
00:33:46,317 --> 00:33:48,693
When a musician is vulnerable,
686
00:33:48,694 --> 00:33:51,446
we have space
to process our grief.
687
00:33:51,447 --> 00:33:54,032
All right, I'm not gonna lie,
I'm gonna cry.
688
00:33:54,033 --> 00:33:56,327
I was teared up, I got chills.
689
00:33:56,995 --> 00:34:00,999
People were telling me,
"This made my 70-year-old dad
690
00:34:01,124 --> 00:34:02,957
think differently."
People were telling me that.
691
00:34:02,958 --> 00:34:04,461
I was like,
"Wow, that's insane."
692
00:34:05,295 --> 00:34:07,628
Another man was like,
"I marched from Harlem
693
00:34:07,629 --> 00:34:10,299
to Brooklyn with a bunch
of people to this song."
694
00:34:13,636 --> 00:34:16,304
I think when we create music,
it can be more selfish
695
00:34:16,305 --> 00:34:17,891
and then it turns
into something else.
696
00:34:18,016 --> 00:34:19,557
I'm not thinking about
millions of people
697
00:34:19,558 --> 00:34:21,019
are going to hear this.
698
00:34:23,396 --> 00:34:27,774
Music is a universal language
and it-it allows somebody
699
00:34:27,775 --> 00:34:30,111
to help get out
what they're feeling.
700
00:34:31,488 --> 00:34:33,989
And that's vulnerability
and strength.
701
00:34:37,660 --> 00:34:39,913
You know,
people talk about stress.
702
00:34:40,497 --> 00:34:43,289
When you look at what
the legacy of that is,
703
00:34:43,290 --> 00:34:44,624
the inheritance of that,
704
00:34:44,625 --> 00:34:48,088
the ancestral bequeathing
of that,
705
00:34:48,213 --> 00:34:50,296
I'm living with that stress.
706
00:34:50,297 --> 00:34:52,676
It's in my bones.
It's in my DNA.
707
00:34:53,510 --> 00:34:56,721
But singing helps to release
some of that.
708
00:34:57,514 --> 00:34:59,263
When I went back home
to North Carolina,
709
00:34:59,264 --> 00:35:02,394
I started reading
enslaved people's narratives.
710
00:35:02,519 --> 00:35:05,019
It's an amazing experience
to sit in a library
711
00:35:05,020 --> 00:35:06,564
looking at somebody's diary
712
00:35:06,690 --> 00:35:08,566
or a letter
that they've written.
713
00:35:08,692 --> 00:35:10,735
"Oh, I'm sorry it took me
so long to write."
714
00:35:10,860 --> 00:35:12,318
I mean, some things
are universal.
715
00:35:12,319 --> 00:35:13,905
"I was sick." You know,
716
00:35:14,030 --> 00:35:15,822
"I'm sorry it took me
so long to write you.
717
00:35:15,823 --> 00:35:17,365
And the weather's been
really crap.
718
00:35:17,366 --> 00:35:19,492
And the crops are...
You know, they're doing okay.
719
00:35:19,493 --> 00:35:22,288
And we sold Sally last week,
and I bought a new dress."
720
00:35:23,206 --> 00:35:24,416
It's like that.
721
00:35:24,916 --> 00:35:27,667
It's like that.
722
00:35:27,668 --> 00:35:29,629
I didn't know what to do
with these emotions,
723
00:35:29,754 --> 00:35:30,878
thinking about these women
724
00:35:30,879 --> 00:35:33,172
and the lives
that they had to lead.
725
00:35:33,173 --> 00:35:34,634
So I started writing songs.
726
00:35:37,053 --> 00:35:39,387
Probably my most well known one
of these is called
727
00:35:39,388 --> 00:35:40,974
"At The Purchaser's Option."
728
00:35:52,485 --> 00:35:54,112
So I found an ad,
729
00:35:54,237 --> 00:35:56,320
and it was for a young woman
who was for sale.
730
00:35:56,321 --> 00:35:58,364
At the end of the ad,
it says she has with her
731
00:35:58,365 --> 00:35:59,951
a nine-month-old baby
732
00:36:00,076 --> 00:36:01,911
who is at
the purchaser's option.
733
00:36:02,746 --> 00:36:05,248
She has with her a baby.
You can buy it or not.
734
00:36:06,124 --> 00:36:08,333
And I thought about
that young woman.
735
00:36:08,334 --> 00:36:10,585
I imagine her lying on the bed,
736
00:36:10,586 --> 00:36:12,797
her little nine-month-old baby
next to her.
737
00:36:12,922 --> 00:36:14,088
She opens up her eyes,
738
00:36:14,089 --> 00:36:16,507
not knowing
how that day is gonna end.
739
00:36:16,508 --> 00:36:18,718
Is she gonna be
with that little baby?
740
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:21,639
Do you love them the less
because you never know
741
00:36:21,765 --> 00:36:23,931
if they're gonna stay with you?
Of course you don't.
742
00:36:23,932 --> 00:36:27,437
So all of these questions
go into that song.
743
00:36:27,562 --> 00:36:29,147
♪ You can take my body ♪
744
00:36:29,272 --> 00:36:30,982
♪ You can take my bones ♪
745
00:36:31,107 --> 00:36:32,732
♪ You can take my blood ♪
746
00:36:32,733 --> 00:36:34,442
♪ But not my soul ♪
747
00:36:34,443 --> 00:36:35,568
♪ You can take my body ♪
748
00:36:35,569 --> 00:36:37,403
It's heavy.
749
00:36:37,404 --> 00:36:40,325
But I feel like
it's what I'm here to do.
750
00:36:42,243 --> 00:36:44,871
Even as music
helps us process pain,
751
00:36:44,996 --> 00:36:47,248
it also unites us in joy.
752
00:36:48,500 --> 00:36:50,877
From the beginning of the fight
for civil rights,
753
00:36:51,002 --> 00:36:52,920
there was always the music.
754
00:36:54,798 --> 00:36:56,464
From the churches
755
00:36:56,465 --> 00:36:58,051
to the streets
756
00:36:58,176 --> 00:36:59,801
to the nation's capital.
757
00:36:59,802 --> 00:37:03,223
Music has given people
the strength to keep going.
758
00:37:03,348 --> 00:37:04,472
Lena.
759
00:37:04,473 --> 00:37:05,765
Odetta.
760
00:37:05,766 --> 00:37:08,142
Mavis. Marian.
761
00:37:08,143 --> 00:37:10,730
They showed us
that the more you speak out,
762
00:37:10,855 --> 00:37:13,107
the more you can change
the world.
763
00:37:17,696 --> 00:37:20,532
But we've also learned
that the louder you are,
764
00:37:20,657 --> 00:37:22,490
the more the forces
of oppression
765
00:37:22,491 --> 00:37:24,119
will try to silence you.
766
00:37:31,584 --> 00:37:33,751
Dynamite exploded
on a Sunday morning,
767
00:37:33,752 --> 00:37:35,880
killed four little girls
in Sunday school.
768
00:37:37,507 --> 00:37:40,844
When the kids
got killed in that church,
769
00:37:42,220 --> 00:37:45,056
first you get depressed,
and after that, you get mad.
770
00:37:45,598 --> 00:37:47,432
And when these kids got bombed,
771
00:37:47,433 --> 00:37:49,269
I just sat down
and wrote this song.
772
00:37:51,062 --> 00:37:55,481
She saw the 16th Street
Baptist Church bombing,
773
00:37:55,482 --> 00:37:57,316
and she was fed up with it,
774
00:37:57,317 --> 00:37:59,404
and she wrote
"Mississippi Goddam."
775
00:37:59,529 --> 00:38:02,196
♪ Alabama's got me so upset ♪
776
00:38:02,197 --> 00:38:05,074
♪ Tennessee made me
Lose my rest ♪
777
00:38:05,075 --> 00:38:09,956
♪ And everybody knows about
Mississippi Goddam ♪
778
00:38:10,081 --> 00:38:11,583
She's just channeling
779
00:38:11,708 --> 00:38:15,712
so much ancestral emotion,
grief.
780
00:38:15,837 --> 00:38:19,172
♪ I can't stand the pressure
Much longer ♪
781
00:38:19,173 --> 00:38:21,259
♪ Somebody say a prayer ♪
782
00:38:21,384 --> 00:38:24,635
She's performing
to largely white audiences,
783
00:38:24,636 --> 00:38:27,432
performing to people
who might not want to hear it.
784
00:38:32,437 --> 00:38:35,106
...telling me that it was
in bad taste.
785
00:38:35,231 --> 00:38:37,776
And, you know, how could I stoop
to this? Et cetera.
786
00:38:37,901 --> 00:38:39,444
They missed the whole point.
787
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:44,697
I think she saw
that all she could do
788
00:38:44,698 --> 00:38:45,865
was make art
789
00:38:45,866 --> 00:38:48,785
and try to speak
on behalf of others.
790
00:38:48,786 --> 00:38:51,079
♪ Alabama's got me so upset ♪
791
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:54,415
♪ And Governor Wallace
Has made me lose my rest ♪
792
00:38:54,416 --> 00:38:59,506
♪ Everybody knows about
Mississippi Goddam ♪
793
00:39:00,006 --> 00:39:01,132
That's it!
794
00:39:05,095 --> 00:39:07,514
And then she's done,
and she bows,
795
00:39:07,639 --> 00:39:09,349
you know, gracefully.
796
00:39:10,100 --> 00:39:12,225
And I love that.
That just shows everything.
797
00:39:12,226 --> 00:39:14,479
She's a genius.
798
00:39:14,604 --> 00:39:17,271
She was good friends
with James Baldwin
799
00:39:17,272 --> 00:39:19,941
and other artists of the time.
800
00:39:19,942 --> 00:39:22,193
They were part
of a greater community
801
00:39:22,194 --> 00:39:24,946
of artists, writers, activists
802
00:39:24,947 --> 00:39:28,660
that were coming together
for a common cause,
803
00:39:28,785 --> 00:39:30,203
equality.
804
00:39:30,995 --> 00:39:33,079
It's important to know
how much power you have
805
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:35,875
and utilize it in ways
that will outlive you.
806
00:39:37,335 --> 00:39:42,088
When I'm finished
working, as tired as I am,
807
00:39:42,089 --> 00:39:45,758
when there are kids
who come backstage afterwards
808
00:39:45,759 --> 00:39:48,722
who want to talk,
or who are moved to the point,
809
00:39:48,847 --> 00:39:50,598
sometimes they're moved
to tears,
810
00:39:51,182 --> 00:39:54,894
I find the time to do so
as much as I can.
811
00:39:55,020 --> 00:39:57,147
They are our future.
812
00:39:57,981 --> 00:40:01,107
I never intend for my children
to look at me and be ashamed
813
00:40:01,108 --> 00:40:03,194
and say, "Mama,
why didn't you do something?"
814
00:40:03,319 --> 00:40:05,280
I will have done mine.
815
00:40:06,156 --> 00:40:09,824
We continue to benefit
from the stand that Nina took,
816
00:40:09,825 --> 00:40:12,952
though I would imagine
she'd still have a lot to say
817
00:40:12,953 --> 00:40:16,041
if she saw the division
that's in music today.
818
00:40:19,377 --> 00:40:21,085
Hope y'all feeling good.
819
00:40:21,086 --> 00:40:22,881
Give it up for the Dixie Chicks.
820
00:40:23,006 --> 00:40:26,299
I remember
the uproar over Beyoncé
821
00:40:26,300 --> 00:40:28,092
at the Country Music Awards,
822
00:40:28,093 --> 00:40:30,470
performing
with the Dixie Chicks.
823
00:40:30,471 --> 00:40:33,181
Dixie Chicks got
in a lot of trouble
824
00:40:33,182 --> 00:40:35,391
standing up
against the war in Iraq.
825
00:40:35,392 --> 00:40:38,897
♪ Daddy made a soldier
Out of me ♪
826
00:40:39,022 --> 00:40:42,275
There were a lot
of sour faces in that audience.
827
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:45,026
What she walked away with
was the impression
828
00:40:45,027 --> 00:40:46,361
that she wasn't welcome.
829
00:40:46,362 --> 00:40:49,449
I think that people painting
830
00:40:49,574 --> 00:40:52,577
country music
as this, like, white utopia,
831
00:40:52,702 --> 00:40:56,247
it's... pure fabrication.
832
00:40:56,915 --> 00:40:59,918
For Beyoncé,
she grew up in Texas.
833
00:41:00,043 --> 00:41:02,335
You know, this is
her culture too.
834
00:41:02,336 --> 00:41:04,837
Like, she's gonna claim it.
835
00:41:04,838 --> 00:41:06,673
Global superstar Beyoncé
836
00:41:06,674 --> 00:41:07,926
reveals the cover art
837
00:41:08,051 --> 00:41:10,261
for her next album,
Cowboy Carter.
838
00:41:10,387 --> 00:41:12,345
♪ This ain't Texas ♪
839
00:41:12,346 --> 00:41:14,472
- ♪ Woo ♪
- ♪ Ain't no hold 'em ♪
840
00:41:14,473 --> 00:41:16,349
"Texas Hold 'Em," which made her
841
00:41:16,350 --> 00:41:18,976
the first Black female artist
to reach the top
842
00:41:18,977 --> 00:41:22,440
of the Billboard
Hot Country Songs chart.
843
00:41:22,565 --> 00:41:24,566
Her Instagram reading...
844
00:41:33,451 --> 00:41:35,493
Rhiannon Giddens. Her banjo
845
00:41:35,494 --> 00:41:38,623
is the first thing you hear
on "Texas Hold 'Em."
846
00:41:38,748 --> 00:41:40,415
The "Stay in your lane,"
847
00:41:40,416 --> 00:41:42,583
the "Well,
that's not real country,"
848
00:41:42,584 --> 00:41:44,004
that's just racism.
849
00:41:44,129 --> 00:41:45,712
Americana, country.
850
00:41:45,713 --> 00:41:48,842
All of it comes out of
cross-cultural collaboration.
851
00:41:48,967 --> 00:41:51,009
But if you don't know
that Black people
852
00:41:51,010 --> 00:41:53,177
were a huge part
of that collaboration,
853
00:41:53,178 --> 00:41:56,556
you get a really skewed picture
of what America is.
854
00:41:56,557 --> 00:41:58,977
When I first started
singing country music,
855
00:41:59,102 --> 00:42:01,146
I was like, scared. I was like,
856
00:42:01,271 --> 00:42:04,272
"There aren't really any
Black people in country music."
857
00:42:04,273 --> 00:42:07,567
And I Googled
"Black female country singers."
858
00:42:07,568 --> 00:42:09,446
I found a woman
named Linda Martell.
859
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:13,033
Linda Martell's
first single in 1969
860
00:42:13,158 --> 00:42:14,826
was a huge hit.
861
00:42:14,951 --> 00:42:18,077
She performed on popular
TV shows like Hee Haw
862
00:42:18,078 --> 00:42:20,413
and at venues
like the Grand Ole Opry.
863
00:42:20,414 --> 00:42:23,335
And before Beyoncé, Martell
was the highest slotting
864
00:42:23,460 --> 00:42:26,127
Black female singer
on the country charts.
865
00:42:26,128 --> 00:42:29,549
Martell later revealed
a dispiriting story
866
00:42:29,674 --> 00:42:32,385
about that period of her life.
867
00:42:32,510 --> 00:42:35,013
She had originally signed
with a label called
868
00:42:35,138 --> 00:42:37,930
SSS International Records
869
00:42:37,931 --> 00:42:39,517
and was totally unaware
870
00:42:39,642 --> 00:42:41,642
that they had decided
to release her music
871
00:42:41,643 --> 00:42:43,269
on their sister label
872
00:42:43,270 --> 00:42:45,065
called Plantation.
873
00:42:45,648 --> 00:42:48,149
Feeling rightfully misled
and disrespected,
874
00:42:48,150 --> 00:42:49,609
she left the label,
875
00:42:49,610 --> 00:42:52,111
and when she tried to take
her music elsewhere,
876
00:42:52,112 --> 00:42:54,280
Plantation threatened
to sue any company
877
00:42:54,281 --> 00:42:55,700
that released a song with her.
878
00:42:55,825 --> 00:42:58,078
She ended up leaving
the music industry
879
00:42:58,203 --> 00:43:01,790
and ultimately supported
herself as a school bus driver.
880
00:43:02,499 --> 00:43:05,710
I think of music as a matter
of historical record
881
00:43:05,835 --> 00:43:08,461
and a matter of history keeping,
882
00:43:08,462 --> 00:43:10,882
and that particular example,
883
00:43:11,007 --> 00:43:12,884
I think, was representative
884
00:43:13,009 --> 00:43:15,343
of the state of the country.
885
00:43:15,344 --> 00:43:17,679
I think her story
is all too common.
886
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:20,558
That is actually more
of the refrain of women,
887
00:43:20,684 --> 00:43:22,727
and especially Black women
in the music industry,
888
00:43:22,852 --> 00:43:25,269
not just like they flamed out
or they weren't good enough
889
00:43:25,270 --> 00:43:27,355
or they couldn't hack it.
890
00:43:27,356 --> 00:43:30,610
It's like, actually, they were
kind of set up for failure.
891
00:43:32,821 --> 00:43:35,697
When I first
started going to record labels,
892
00:43:35,698 --> 00:43:36,864
there was a president.
893
00:43:36,865 --> 00:43:39,703
He was questioning
if I was authentic.
894
00:43:40,245 --> 00:43:43,415
He was questioning where I was
from and questioning who I was.
895
00:43:43,540 --> 00:43:46,541
And I'm like, I grew up
in Crawford, Texas.
896
00:43:46,542 --> 00:43:49,002
It doesn't get any countrier
than that.
897
00:43:49,003 --> 00:43:50,422
And then he said,
898
00:43:50,547 --> 00:43:53,381
"Can you take those songs
that you're writing
899
00:43:53,382 --> 00:43:55,093
and put a smile on it?"
900
00:43:55,635 --> 00:43:58,972
I needed to downplay
everything that I was,
901
00:43:59,097 --> 00:44:00,513
and I lost myself.
902
00:44:00,514 --> 00:44:03,558
♪ When I first saw
That bikini top on her ♪
903
00:44:03,559 --> 00:44:06,477
♪ She's popping right out
Of the south Georgia water ♪
904
00:44:06,478 --> 00:44:08,481
There was a movement
that had happened
905
00:44:08,606 --> 00:44:09,816
when I was first coming up
906
00:44:09,941 --> 00:44:11,524
called the bro-country movement.
907
00:44:11,525 --> 00:44:14,068
Everybody had trap beats
in their songs,
908
00:44:14,069 --> 00:44:16,237
and they were all going
like this in their songs
909
00:44:16,238 --> 00:44:18,531
and like going like this
in their songs,
910
00:44:18,532 --> 00:44:19,951
calling it country.
911
00:44:20,076 --> 00:44:22,994
And then I was turning in songs
and they were like,
912
00:44:22,995 --> 00:44:25,371
"Mm, you need to make sure
that sounds more country,
913
00:44:25,372 --> 00:44:28,001
because people are gonna think
that you're not authentic."
914
00:44:28,126 --> 00:44:31,836
I was watching myself
struggling as a Black woman,
915
00:44:31,837 --> 00:44:36,215
and, um, I sat with my husband
and I asked him,
916
00:44:36,216 --> 00:44:39,804
"Why do you think country music
isn't working for me?"
917
00:44:40,263 --> 00:44:42,764
And he says, "Because you're
running away from your Blackness
918
00:44:42,765 --> 00:44:44,390
and you're running away
from everything
919
00:44:44,391 --> 00:44:45,558
that makes you different."
920
00:44:45,559 --> 00:44:47,060
And he said, "You know,
921
00:44:47,061 --> 00:44:49,062
country music
is three chords and the truth.
922
00:44:49,063 --> 00:44:50,857
So why aren't you writing
country music
923
00:44:50,982 --> 00:44:52,440
from your perspective?"
924
00:44:52,441 --> 00:44:55,320
I was like, "Hm, why am I not?"
925
00:44:56,279 --> 00:44:58,656
So I wrote a song
called "Black Like Me."
926
00:44:58,782 --> 00:45:01,783
♪ If you think we live ♪
927
00:45:01,784 --> 00:45:04,329
♪ In the land of the free ♪
928
00:45:04,454 --> 00:45:09,624
♪ You should try to be
Black like me ♪
929
00:45:09,625 --> 00:45:11,292
It got a lot of hate.
930
00:45:11,293 --> 00:45:12,671
People were pissed.
931
00:45:13,630 --> 00:45:15,588
It was at a time
a country artist
932
00:45:15,589 --> 00:45:17,217
got caught saying the N-word.
933
00:45:18,218 --> 00:45:20,178
This is what's happening
in this genre.
934
00:45:20,303 --> 00:45:23,181
Like, you think I'm lying?
Like, this is what's happening.
935
00:45:23,306 --> 00:45:25,850
And the things
people said to me,
936
00:45:25,975 --> 00:45:28,353
"Get your ghetto ass
out of country music.
937
00:45:28,478 --> 00:45:29,812
Effing N-Word."
938
00:45:31,648 --> 00:45:34,651
♪ Oh, now ♪
939
00:45:34,776 --> 00:45:39,698
♪ Now I'm all grown up
And nothing has changed ♪
940
00:45:40,323 --> 00:45:42,615
♪ Yeah, it's still the same ♪
941
00:45:42,616 --> 00:45:46,661
You can't truly see change
until you start helping
942
00:45:46,662 --> 00:45:48,581
other artists
that are coming after you.
943
00:45:50,208 --> 00:45:51,958
My God! No!
944
00:45:51,959 --> 00:45:54,254
Are you Mickey? Hello.
945
00:45:54,379 --> 00:45:57,382
I never thought
that I would be able to have
946
00:45:57,507 --> 00:45:59,298
these types of possibilities
947
00:45:59,299 --> 00:46:02,010
all because I just stood up
and said, "No."
948
00:46:02,011 --> 00:46:07,600
♪ And I'm proud to be
Black like me ♪
949
00:46:08,351 --> 00:46:13,273
♪ Proud to be Black like me ♪
950
00:46:14,065 --> 00:46:16,735
The storytelling
can cut across genre,
951
00:46:16,860 --> 00:46:20,611
but it carries a through line
of refusal
952
00:46:20,612 --> 00:46:24,490
to be crushed
by what seems to be a system
953
00:46:24,491 --> 00:46:26,911
that does not care
for your existence.
954
00:46:27,787 --> 00:46:32,917
Tracy Chapman was one of
those fantastic storytellers.
955
00:46:33,043 --> 00:46:35,668
She talks about
working-class challenges
956
00:46:35,669 --> 00:46:39,339
in a way that is universal
but so specific.
957
00:46:39,340 --> 00:46:41,174
♪ Don't you know ♪
958
00:46:41,175 --> 00:46:44,596
♪ They're talking
About a revolution? ♪
959
00:46:44,721 --> 00:46:46,973
♪ It sounds like a whisper ♪
960
00:46:47,098 --> 00:46:49,476
I wrote the song,
"Talkin' 'bout a Revolution,"
961
00:46:49,601 --> 00:46:51,893
when I was 16.
962
00:46:51,894 --> 00:46:54,773
I received a scholarship
to go to boarding school,
963
00:46:55,273 --> 00:46:58,649
and it was a really difficult
transition for me.
964
00:46:58,650 --> 00:47:01,112
I found that people
at the school
965
00:47:01,237 --> 00:47:03,404
really didn't have
a sense of where
966
00:47:03,405 --> 00:47:06,785
the scholarship students like
myself, where we come from,
967
00:47:06,910 --> 00:47:09,162
and they also really
didn't have much interest.
968
00:47:09,287 --> 00:47:12,413
And, uh, I was really angry
about that.
969
00:47:12,414 --> 00:47:14,793
♪ Poor people gonna rise up ♪
970
00:47:15,669 --> 00:47:17,502
♪ And get their share ♪
971
00:47:17,503 --> 00:47:20,131
As a teenager,
I discovered her music.
972
00:47:20,256 --> 00:47:22,840
And for me,
that was this moment
973
00:47:22,841 --> 00:47:26,594
where all of the pent-up
and sort of burgeoning,
974
00:47:26,595 --> 00:47:29,974
you know, righteous indignation
found a voice.
975
00:47:30,100 --> 00:47:32,392
What was I upset about?
What could I do?
976
00:47:32,393 --> 00:47:34,769
Those songs really told me,
977
00:47:34,770 --> 00:47:36,604
"These are the things
you should demand."
978
00:47:36,605 --> 00:47:40,151
And today I come to you
as a young person,
979
00:47:40,276 --> 00:47:41,528
as a young woman,
980
00:47:41,653 --> 00:47:43,236
as a young Black woman,
981
00:47:43,237 --> 00:47:45,198
to ask you to use us.
982
00:47:45,323 --> 00:47:48,326
Use the young people
of the United States of America
983
00:47:48,451 --> 00:47:50,662
to pave a road
that will last forever.
984
00:47:51,246 --> 00:47:52,912
Tracy gave words to it
985
00:47:52,913 --> 00:47:55,500
in such lyrical
and beautiful fashion
986
00:47:55,625 --> 00:47:57,669
that I carry it with me
to this day.
987
00:47:57,794 --> 00:48:00,294
♪ You got a fast car ♪
988
00:48:00,295 --> 00:48:03,008
♪ And I want a ticket
To anywhere ♪
989
00:48:03,133 --> 00:48:05,633
♪ Maybe we make a deal ♪
990
00:48:05,634 --> 00:48:08,845
♪ Maybe together
We can get somewhere ♪
991
00:48:08,846 --> 00:48:11,850
"Fast Car" is talking
about not just poverty,
992
00:48:11,975 --> 00:48:15,562
but the cycles of violence
that are more relevant today.
993
00:48:16,479 --> 00:48:18,523
It's a song
about someone trying to break
994
00:48:18,648 --> 00:48:20,106
intergenerational patterns,
995
00:48:20,107 --> 00:48:23,109
and I just feel like
it's such a classic narrative,
996
00:48:23,110 --> 00:48:26,487
needing to carve out
an identity for yourself.
997
00:48:26,488 --> 00:48:28,700
There was something
about the small-town angst
998
00:48:28,825 --> 00:48:30,616
and desire
to go somewhere else.
999
00:48:30,617 --> 00:48:32,994
♪ You got a fast car ♪
1000
00:48:32,995 --> 00:48:35,455
♪ Is it fast enough
So you can fly away? ♪
1001
00:48:35,456 --> 00:48:37,623
That moment,
her at the Grammys,
1002
00:48:37,624 --> 00:48:39,210
there was something
really remarkable
1003
00:48:39,336 --> 00:48:40,712
about how they shared
the stage.
1004
00:48:40,837 --> 00:48:43,087
Like, we saw Tracy first.
1005
00:48:43,088 --> 00:48:45,006
She was glowing.
1006
00:48:45,007 --> 00:48:47,967
And Luke's relationship
to her on stage
1007
00:48:47,968 --> 00:48:51,890
was of such reverence
and respect.
1008
00:48:52,432 --> 00:48:55,433
Even the way he sings the song.
He doesn't change the pronouns.
1009
00:48:55,434 --> 00:48:57,810
He doesn't do the things
that men in general might do
1010
00:48:57,811 --> 00:49:00,147
to feel like, "Oh, I have
to de-feminize the song."
1011
00:49:05,362 --> 00:49:09,739
♪ I-I had a feeling
I could be someone ♪
1012
00:49:09,740 --> 00:49:12,077
The power of music
1013
00:49:12,202 --> 00:49:15,953
comes from its ability
to change its shape over time.
1014
00:49:15,954 --> 00:49:18,790
What began as a song
about urban poverty
1015
00:49:18,791 --> 00:49:21,501
could, four decades later,
be transformed
1016
00:49:21,502 --> 00:49:24,047
into a modern country anthem.
1017
00:49:24,631 --> 00:49:28,049
Any time a marginalized group
finds itself alone,
1018
00:49:28,050 --> 00:49:30,843
without power, un-listened to,
1019
00:49:30,844 --> 00:49:33,640
you can bet it has
a song to sing.
1020
00:49:34,224 --> 00:49:37,352
And it's only a matter of time
until a voice emerges.
1021
00:49:40,438 --> 00:49:42,440
My name is
Melissa Etheridge.
1022
00:49:42,565 --> 00:49:47,362
I am a mother and a wife
and a rock star.
1023
00:49:49,072 --> 00:49:50,863
When I turned 21,
1024
00:49:50,864 --> 00:49:54,909
I knew that Los Angeles was
where the record industry was.
1025
00:49:54,910 --> 00:49:57,122
This was 1982.
1026
00:49:57,247 --> 00:50:01,083
I had just come out of
the glorious '70s of folk rock.
1027
00:50:05,422 --> 00:50:07,422
The Eagles and Jackson Browne
1028
00:50:07,423 --> 00:50:09,257
and-and Fleetwood Mac.
1029
00:50:09,258 --> 00:50:12,260
So I travel out to California.
1030
00:50:12,261 --> 00:50:14,012
I'm like, "Here I am," you know.
1031
00:50:14,013 --> 00:50:17,098
And I realized what's happening
in Los Angeles
1032
00:50:17,099 --> 00:50:19,392
is a lot of hair
1033
00:50:19,393 --> 00:50:20,979
and a lot of spandex,
1034
00:50:21,104 --> 00:50:24,149
and there's no acoustic guitars
anymore.
1035
00:50:26,443 --> 00:50:29,487
As the weeks went by,
my money was running out,
1036
00:50:29,612 --> 00:50:31,364
and I'm like,
"What am I gonna do?"
1037
00:50:32,991 --> 00:50:34,449
I was a lesbian
1038
00:50:34,450 --> 00:50:38,244
and I went to some bars
in Los Angeles
1039
00:50:38,245 --> 00:50:40,079
and I met some ladies.
1040
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:43,125
And one of them, I went
on a date down in Long Beach.
1041
00:50:46,338 --> 00:50:47,628
She took me to a club.
1042
00:50:47,629 --> 00:50:49,297
It was called
the Executive Suite.
1043
00:50:49,298 --> 00:50:51,132
It used to be a steakhouse,
1044
00:50:51,133 --> 00:50:52,967
and the Russian mob
had bought it,
1045
00:50:52,968 --> 00:50:55,055
and it was now
a, uh, lesbian bar.
1046
00:50:56,181 --> 00:50:57,638
They had a piano in the corner.
1047
00:50:57,639 --> 00:50:59,932
I said, "Hey, do you have
live music?" And...
1048
00:50:59,933 --> 00:51:01,434
I auditioned, got the job.
1049
00:51:01,435 --> 00:51:03,938
♪ Yeah, just like a movie ♪
1050
00:51:04,898 --> 00:51:07,982
And it put me in an atmosphere
1051
00:51:07,983 --> 00:51:11,196
of the lesbian movement of 1982.
1052
00:51:12,989 --> 00:51:15,490
These women were coming
into the bars that I played at.
1053
00:51:15,491 --> 00:51:18,870
They were signing people up,
registering them to vote.
1054
00:51:18,995 --> 00:51:22,707
So I was slowly being...
1055
00:51:23,917 --> 00:51:26,751
taught, really, about politics,
1056
00:51:26,752 --> 00:51:29,923
and we were in the midst
of a huge backlash.
1057
00:51:30,048 --> 00:51:32,340
There is so much hatred
and persecution
1058
00:51:32,341 --> 00:51:34,219
of gay people in our society.
1059
00:51:34,344 --> 00:51:37,722
In the '80s
with HIV/AIDS,
1060
00:51:37,847 --> 00:51:39,891
there was just
rampant homophobia.
1061
00:51:40,016 --> 00:51:42,560
Ambulance drivers
have refused to take
1062
00:51:42,686 --> 00:51:44,477
AIDS patients on occasion.
1063
00:51:44,478 --> 00:51:47,814
He asked one of the attendants,
he told them I had AIDS.
1064
00:51:47,815 --> 00:51:52,070
And the person said, outright,
"I'm not touching him."
1065
00:51:52,779 --> 00:51:54,113
Just like that.
1066
00:51:56,199 --> 00:51:58,410
I am not HIV positive.
1067
00:51:59,744 --> 00:52:01,162
But what if I were?
1068
00:52:02,455 --> 00:52:05,164
I would be more afraid
of how society would treat me
1069
00:52:05,165 --> 00:52:08,336
for having the disease
than the actual disease itself.
1070
00:52:09,295 --> 00:52:14,882
Madonna was extremely vocal
during the AIDS crisis.
1071
00:52:14,883 --> 00:52:17,552
She turned out to take part
in a charity dance marathon
1072
00:52:17,553 --> 00:52:18,930
to benefit AIDS victims.
1073
00:52:19,055 --> 00:52:20,513
I'm really here for two reasons.
1074
00:52:20,514 --> 00:52:24,058
Number one is because I really
believe in AIDS Project LA.
1075
00:52:24,059 --> 00:52:26,980
And the second reason I'm here
is 'cause I love to dance.
1076
00:52:30,483 --> 00:52:32,444
When she released
Like a Prayer,
1077
00:52:32,569 --> 00:52:35,153
the album had an insert
1078
00:52:35,154 --> 00:52:37,991
to inform people
about HIV/AIDS.
1079
00:52:38,575 --> 00:52:40,491
So if you bought
a Madonna record,
1080
00:52:40,492 --> 00:52:43,411
you were getting
an informational booklet,
1081
00:52:43,412 --> 00:52:45,246
and it essentially read,
1082
00:52:45,247 --> 00:52:47,959
"Here are some basic facts
you should know about it,"
1083
00:52:48,084 --> 00:52:51,002
and you bought it
whether you wanted it or not,
1084
00:52:51,003 --> 00:52:53,631
because it was
in your Madonna record.
1085
00:52:54,507 --> 00:52:56,215
And then, of course,
after that we saw
1086
00:52:56,216 --> 00:52:59,596
that she went on to become
like a huge activist.
1087
00:53:00,263 --> 00:53:02,430
I deal with a lot
of topical issues,
1088
00:53:02,431 --> 00:53:05,643
family issues, and, you know,
1089
00:53:05,769 --> 00:53:07,268
what I think to be a big problem
1090
00:53:07,269 --> 00:53:09,354
in the United States,
and that's homophobia.
1091
00:53:09,355 --> 00:53:11,649
If you keep putting something
in somebody's face,
1092
00:53:11,775 --> 00:53:13,232
eventually, you know,
1093
00:53:13,233 --> 00:53:15,070
maybe they can come
to terms with it.
1094
00:53:15,612 --> 00:53:18,780
She was just,
like, so in your face
1095
00:53:18,781 --> 00:53:21,868
because it's like, you know,
her entire-- her dance crew,
1096
00:53:21,993 --> 00:53:24,285
her makeup artists,
her hairstylists.
1097
00:53:24,286 --> 00:53:27,372
She is flanked by queer people.
1098
00:53:27,373 --> 00:53:30,377
And she stood up for them,
which is everything.
1099
00:53:31,127 --> 00:53:33,294
Her boldness was part of a push
1100
00:53:33,295 --> 00:53:36,381
towards more visibility
for queer people.
1101
00:53:36,382 --> 00:53:38,885
She helped destigmatize
people in the community
1102
00:53:39,010 --> 00:53:41,012
and encouraged them
to come out.
1103
00:53:41,971 --> 00:53:43,930
Gays need to have
more role models,
1104
00:53:43,931 --> 00:53:46,059
people who-who are
in powerful positions
1105
00:53:46,184 --> 00:53:47,642
coming out
and saying, "I'm gay."
1106
00:53:47,643 --> 00:53:49,395
I think that would be
very helpful.
1107
00:53:51,606 --> 00:53:53,981
I had released
three records,
1108
00:53:53,982 --> 00:53:56,234
and, um, I would do interviews
1109
00:53:56,235 --> 00:53:58,277
and I did, you know, Letterman,
1110
00:53:58,278 --> 00:54:01,781
and I did one interview
where the guy asked me
1111
00:54:01,782 --> 00:54:04,077
personal questions
about the songs,
1112
00:54:04,202 --> 00:54:08,873
and I always gave my answers
in very general terms.
1113
00:54:08,998 --> 00:54:11,165
They were not gender-specific,
ever.
1114
00:54:11,166 --> 00:54:13,501
When the article came out,
he had changed
1115
00:54:13,502 --> 00:54:16,548
every "us," "them," "you,"
to a boy.
1116
00:54:17,382 --> 00:54:20,885
And it made me look like I was,
like, totally lying
1117
00:54:21,011 --> 00:54:23,511
out of my teeth
talking about my boyfriend.
1118
00:54:23,512 --> 00:54:26,558
And, um, I said,
"I just gotta come out."
1119
00:54:26,683 --> 00:54:29,561
I thought I would maybe
come out on Arsenio Hall.
1120
00:54:29,686 --> 00:54:31,938
But before I ever had
that opportunity,
1121
00:54:32,063 --> 00:54:34,188
I really got
politically involved
1122
00:54:34,189 --> 00:54:36,482
with the Clinton
and Gore campaign,
1123
00:54:36,483 --> 00:54:38,611
helping get him elected.
1124
00:54:39,279 --> 00:54:41,906
And so I was invited
to the inauguration.
1125
00:54:45,285 --> 00:54:47,035
I was up there
with all my gay friends,
1126
00:54:47,036 --> 00:54:49,414
and I just said,
"Ooh, I'm a lesbian."
1127
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:51,497
And I'm proud to say right here,
1128
00:54:51,498 --> 00:54:54,209
I'm very proud to have been
a lesbian all my life.
1129
00:54:57,297 --> 00:54:59,881
I-I could have thought
of something much more eloquent,
1130
00:54:59,882 --> 00:55:02,216
had I knew
that I was going to come out,
1131
00:55:02,217 --> 00:55:05,053
but, uh, it just, boom,
it just happened like that.
1132
00:55:05,054 --> 00:55:09,557
I came out and people start
to do interviews with me.
1133
00:55:09,558 --> 00:55:12,479
Um, let me just talk
about the album a little bit.
1134
00:55:12,604 --> 00:55:14,020
Uh, Yes I Am.
1135
00:55:14,021 --> 00:55:16,022
Everybody's talked about,
well, "Yes, I am..."
1136
00:55:16,023 --> 00:55:17,357
Does it have any connotation?
1137
00:55:17,358 --> 00:55:19,319
- "Yes, I am what?"
- "Yes, I am what?"
1138
00:55:19,444 --> 00:55:22,695
Each of them
would ask me over and over,
1139
00:55:22,696 --> 00:55:25,283
all year long, day after day,
1140
00:55:25,408 --> 00:55:27,492
I would answer questions
about being gay.
1141
00:55:27,493 --> 00:55:29,829
I guess you came out
at the inaugural ball?
1142
00:55:29,954 --> 00:55:31,412
Yeah, in '92, I-I came out.
1143
00:55:31,413 --> 00:55:34,125
It was like they'd never known
anyone gay.
1144
00:55:34,250 --> 00:55:36,002
And I realized at the time,
"You know, I...
1145
00:55:36,127 --> 00:55:37,962
I want to be real thoughtful
about what I say
1146
00:55:38,088 --> 00:55:40,046
'cause I think this is
the first time
1147
00:55:40,047 --> 00:55:43,591
that they've really ever spoke
to someone who was openly gay."
1148
00:55:43,592 --> 00:55:47,220
The first time I kissed a girl,
it was like...
1149
00:55:47,221 --> 00:55:51,017
I've been out to family
and friends since I was 17.
1150
00:55:51,142 --> 00:55:54,435
I've always been very upfront
about my sexuality.
1151
00:55:54,436 --> 00:55:58,400
I didn't understand, but I knew
that I was on a different path.
1152
00:55:59,317 --> 00:56:03,029
Man, I talked a lot
about being gay for a long time,
1153
00:56:03,154 --> 00:56:05,156
and slowly...
1154
00:56:06,783 --> 00:56:09,909
just saying it
and then being in the media,
1155
00:56:09,910 --> 00:56:12,372
just being on a cover
of a magazine,
1156
00:56:12,956 --> 00:56:14,248
it was big.
1157
00:56:19,963 --> 00:56:22,173
When we made the video
for "I'm the Only One,"
1158
00:56:22,298 --> 00:56:24,175
I thought
it would be scandalous
1159
00:56:25,844 --> 00:56:28,928
because it was
the first sexy, sexy video
1160
00:56:28,929 --> 00:56:30,515
that had two women.
1161
00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:33,184
They were dancing with each
other, looking at each other,
1162
00:56:33,309 --> 00:56:34,934
and I'm like,
"Oh my God, I can't wait
1163
00:56:34,935 --> 00:56:36,855
till they say
they're not gonna play it."
1164
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:38,938
Not a word!
1165
00:56:38,939 --> 00:56:40,106
Nothing.
1166
00:56:40,107 --> 00:56:42,402
It was a huge video,
and I was like...
1167
00:56:50,326 --> 00:56:53,828
"Oh, that's gonna be okay.
All right."
1168
00:56:53,829 --> 00:56:58,710
♪ I'm the only one ♪
1169
00:57:01,171 --> 00:57:04,758
The 30 years that I have
traveled since I came out
1170
00:57:05,842 --> 00:57:07,842
have been amazing...
1171
00:57:07,843 --> 00:57:09,346
I'm gay.
1172
00:57:10,013 --> 00:57:13,556
...as I have seen
the world change and grow.
1173
00:57:13,557 --> 00:57:15,560
Same-sex marriage,
legal in this country
1174
00:57:15,685 --> 00:57:17,852
across every state
in this nation.
1175
00:57:17,853 --> 00:57:21,690
The first, uh, transgender woman
to win this award.
1176
00:57:22,984 --> 00:57:24,944
But today, it seems like
1177
00:57:25,070 --> 00:57:26,611
things are going backwards.
1178
00:57:26,612 --> 00:57:28,448
In the middle
of what should be
1179
00:57:28,573 --> 00:57:30,408
a joyous month
celebrating pride,
1180
00:57:30,533 --> 00:57:32,410
the Human Rights Campaign
just issued
1181
00:57:32,535 --> 00:57:34,788
a first-of-its-kind
emergency declaration
1182
00:57:34,913 --> 00:57:37,163
for the LGBTQ+ community.
1183
00:57:37,164 --> 00:57:39,791
Seventy-five laws
in more than a dozen states
1184
00:57:39,792 --> 00:57:43,044
specifically targeting
LGBTQ+ rights.
1185
00:57:43,045 --> 00:57:45,256
We're not doing
the pronoun Olympics in Florida.
1186
00:57:45,382 --> 00:57:46,506
It's not happening here.
1187
00:57:46,507 --> 00:57:48,093
A Tennessee bill
that bans
1188
00:57:48,218 --> 00:57:50,551
gender-affirming care
for anyone under the age of 18
1189
00:57:50,552 --> 00:57:52,553
was signed
by the state's governor today.
1190
00:57:52,554 --> 00:57:55,056
We're in the middle
of one of the biggest rollbacks
1191
00:57:55,057 --> 00:57:56,557
of rights for everybody.
1192
00:57:56,558 --> 00:57:58,395
That is really disturbing.
1193
00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:00,645
Movements to ban specific books
1194
00:58:00,646 --> 00:58:02,897
are increasing
around the country.
1195
00:58:02,898 --> 00:58:05,191
The New York Times
now reporting
1196
00:58:05,192 --> 00:58:09,404
22 states ban abortion
or restrict the procedure.
1197
00:58:09,405 --> 00:58:11,239
- What do we want?
- More rights!
1198
00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:13,574
- When do we want it?
- Now!
1199
00:58:13,575 --> 00:58:16,536
Brennan Center reporting that
nearly 100 new restrictions
1200
00:58:16,537 --> 00:58:19,205
have impacted voting rights
in the last 10 years.
1201
00:58:19,206 --> 00:58:20,625
These aren't single issues.
1202
00:58:20,750 --> 00:58:23,126
These are things
that connect all of us.
1203
00:58:23,127 --> 00:58:25,630
These are
fucked up times,
1204
00:58:25,755 --> 00:58:27,547
which is why I think
it's important for us
1205
00:58:27,548 --> 00:58:28,967
to stick together.
1206
00:58:38,101 --> 00:58:41,019
Bravery is easier when you know
what you're fighting for.
1207
00:58:41,020 --> 00:58:42,687
You want a world
1208
00:58:42,688 --> 00:58:45,817
where we're all treated
equally under the law.
1209
00:58:45,942 --> 00:58:48,443
When I'm surrounded
by my peers,
1210
00:58:48,444 --> 00:58:51,823
it makes me feel like
I'm a part of a movement.
1211
00:58:52,615 --> 00:58:55,660
♪ I will stand for you ♪
1212
00:58:55,785 --> 00:58:58,371
♪ Would you stand for me ♪
1213
00:58:58,496 --> 00:59:01,166
Young women
are like such a vital part
1214
00:59:01,291 --> 00:59:02,498
of changing the world.
1215
00:59:02,499 --> 00:59:04,502
♪ ...deserves to be free ♪
1216
00:59:04,753 --> 00:59:08,254
♪ I would lend
A hand to you ♪
1217
00:59:08,255 --> 00:59:11,426
♪ Would you lend
A hand to me ♪
1218
00:59:12,594 --> 00:59:14,846
I was put on this earth
to do music,
1219
00:59:14,971 --> 00:59:17,305
to inspire and empower
little girls to do things
1220
00:59:17,306 --> 00:59:19,140
that we're not expected to do.
1221
00:59:19,141 --> 00:59:21,601
That fight that we had in us
the summer of 2020,
1222
00:59:21,602 --> 00:59:22,854
keep that same energy.
1223
00:59:24,147 --> 00:59:27,692
Any great things that have come
took a great deal of time,
1224
00:59:29,027 --> 00:59:30,195
and we still persist.
1225
00:59:31,154 --> 00:59:33,531
When women
find their voices
1226
00:59:33,656 --> 00:59:36,201
and offer those voices
to others,
1227
00:59:36,326 --> 00:59:38,785
we realize
that not being silent,
1228
00:59:38,786 --> 00:59:41,873
it's about having
the words to tell stories
1229
00:59:41,998 --> 00:59:44,209
that you didn't even know
you were ready to tell.
1230
00:59:45,001 --> 00:59:48,380
Oh, I don't give a damn
what people think.
1231
00:59:49,339 --> 00:59:50,590
This is what I am.
1232
00:59:50,715 --> 00:59:53,134
And this is the truth. My truth.
1233
00:59:54,344 --> 00:59:56,636
And I want to hear yours.
1234
00:59:56,637 --> 01:00:00,392
♪ Everybody ♪
1235
01:00:01,267 --> 01:00:07,399
♪ Deserves to be free ♪
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