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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,044 --> 00:00:03,003 [VCR clicks] 2 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 3 00:00:03,046 --> 00:00:04,613 We having fun yet? 4 00:00:04,656 --> 00:00:06,919 - I don't feel carsick that much anymore. 5 00:00:06,963 --> 00:00:08,182 Well, good. 6 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 7 00:00:08,225 --> 00:00:10,793 Maybe 'cause you're closer to Disneyland? 8 00:00:10,836 --> 00:00:12,795 Here's Alissa. 9 00:00:12,838 --> 00:00:15,102 Smiling and happy. Yes. 10 00:00:15,145 --> 00:00:17,756 - Did you look down, Alissa? - Yeah, I did. 11 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:20,933 - Growing up, my dad always had the film recorder 12 00:00:20,977 --> 00:00:23,110 in his hand 24/7 trying to capture 13 00:00:23,153 --> 00:00:24,415 all of our memories. 14 00:00:24,459 --> 00:00:28,289 [soft dramatic music] 15 00:00:28,332 --> 00:00:30,639 I think the happiest parts of my childhood 16 00:00:30,682 --> 00:00:33,729 were going to Disneyland with my family. 17 00:00:33,772 --> 00:00:34,860 I loved being there. 18 00:00:34,904 --> 00:00:36,340 It always makes me think of Alissa. 19 00:00:36,384 --> 00:00:38,125 - We have it on tape. Alissa can read. 20 00:00:38,168 --> 00:00:40,214 - We looked like a happy family. 21 00:00:40,257 --> 00:00:41,867 - Don't you know how to treat a lady? 22 00:00:41,911 --> 00:00:43,956 - Hell of a ride. Yeah. 23 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:45,828 24 00:00:45,871 --> 00:00:48,091 - Whoo-hoo! 25 00:00:48,135 --> 00:00:50,528 26 00:00:50,572 --> 00:00:55,751 - But this happy time is shrouded in darkness. 27 00:00:55,794 --> 00:00:58,754 On the last day of her junior year, 28 00:00:58,797 --> 00:01:03,150 Alissa went missing, and that changed everything. 29 00:01:03,193 --> 00:01:04,803 30 00:01:04,847 --> 00:01:07,241 My dad told me that Alissa had run away. 31 00:01:07,284 --> 00:01:09,112 I was in shock. 32 00:01:09,156 --> 00:01:13,247 I felt so much guilt. I blamed myself. 33 00:01:13,290 --> 00:01:15,205 34 00:01:15,249 --> 00:01:17,425 But because I was so young, 35 00:01:17,468 --> 00:01:19,862 it's hard to rely on my own memory. 36 00:01:19,905 --> 00:01:25,128 So I had to go back and try to piece together the truth. 37 00:01:25,172 --> 00:01:28,349 - Alissa, do not leave the building whatsoever. 38 00:01:28,392 --> 00:01:30,786 - Searching for the truth, I was frustrated. 39 00:01:30,829 --> 00:01:32,309 I wanted to tell Alissa's story... 40 00:01:32,353 --> 00:01:33,789 In this episode... 41 00:01:33,832 --> 00:01:35,834 And that's when I found podcasting and TikTok, 42 00:01:35,878 --> 00:01:39,011 and I started to put together the pieces. 43 00:01:39,055 --> 00:01:40,926 You got me in trouble, Dad. 44 00:01:40,970 --> 00:01:42,232 Nobody's heard from Alissa. 45 00:01:42,276 --> 00:01:44,060 - I'm trying to meet you in the middle here, Dad. 46 00:01:44,104 --> 00:01:45,801 - And you've destroyed your own family! 47 00:01:45,844 --> 00:01:49,196 - When I started to uncover more facts about my own life 48 00:01:49,239 --> 00:01:51,546 that I never knew, 49 00:01:51,589 --> 00:01:54,897 it starts to make me question everything. 50 00:01:54,940 --> 00:02:02,122 51 00:02:16,484 --> 00:02:19,878 The day Alissa disappeared, it was her last day 52 00:02:19,922 --> 00:02:23,099 of junior year and my last day of seventh grade. 53 00:02:23,143 --> 00:02:24,579 It was a great day for me. 54 00:02:24,622 --> 00:02:27,103 I remember getting on the bus, going to the water park, 55 00:02:27,147 --> 00:02:28,713 having a good time with my friends. 56 00:02:28,757 --> 00:02:30,106 [school bell ringing] 57 00:02:30,150 --> 00:02:33,805 And then after school, my father picked me up. 58 00:02:33,849 --> 00:02:35,764 He turns to me and says, 59 00:02:35,807 --> 00:02:38,201 "Your sister's not answering her cell phone. 60 00:02:38,245 --> 00:02:40,203 Can you try to call her?" 61 00:02:40,247 --> 00:02:42,336 [phone ringing] 62 00:02:42,379 --> 00:02:44,338 I call her a few times. 63 00:02:44,381 --> 00:02:48,037 There's no answer. 64 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:53,434 We get home, and I go right to Alissa's bedroom. 65 00:02:53,477 --> 00:02:56,828 I was sure that she'd be there, 66 00:02:56,872 --> 00:02:59,309 but she wasn't. 67 00:02:59,353 --> 00:03:01,137 I saw the contents of her backpack 68 00:03:01,181 --> 00:03:03,008 dumped all over the ground, 69 00:03:03,052 --> 00:03:07,796 and then there was a note and her cell phone. 70 00:03:07,839 --> 00:03:09,450 "Dad and Sarah, when you dropped me off 71 00:03:09,493 --> 00:03:11,408 "at school today, I decided I really am 72 00:03:11,452 --> 00:03:12,757 "going to California. 73 00:03:12,801 --> 00:03:14,455 "Sarah, you didn't want me around. 74 00:03:14,498 --> 00:03:16,326 "Look, you got it, I'm gone. 75 00:03:16,370 --> 00:03:18,198 "Dad, that's why I saved my money. 76 00:03:18,241 --> 00:03:19,851 "I took $300 from you. 77 00:03:19,895 --> 00:03:21,201 Alissa." 78 00:03:25,640 --> 00:03:28,251 My dad immediately panicked. 79 00:03:28,295 --> 00:03:29,861 [dial tone droning] 80 00:03:29,905 --> 00:03:32,560 He started calling friends and family 81 00:03:32,603 --> 00:03:35,215 trying to figure out, you know, where she could have been. 82 00:03:35,258 --> 00:03:36,781 - Family Investigations Bureau. 83 00:03:36,825 --> 00:03:38,827 - This is Pam. - Yeah, Pam... 84 00:03:38,870 --> 00:03:40,959 - Later in the night, he calls the police and says, 85 00:03:41,003 --> 00:03:43,048 "My teenage daughter ran away." 86 00:03:43,092 --> 00:03:46,878 So they mark her as a runaway, 87 00:03:46,922 --> 00:03:49,490 but they do not come visit the house. 88 00:03:49,533 --> 00:03:51,709 They do not come speak to my father. 89 00:03:51,753 --> 00:03:53,668 90 00:03:53,711 --> 00:03:56,366 And in my mind, I was staying calm and thinking, 91 00:03:56,410 --> 00:03:58,063 "Of course." 92 00:03:58,107 --> 00:04:00,501 Alissa had big dreams of turning 18 93 00:04:00,544 --> 00:04:02,764 and moving out of the house, 94 00:04:02,807 --> 00:04:05,375 but I think, inside, I was scared. 95 00:04:05,419 --> 00:04:08,509 96 00:04:08,552 --> 00:04:11,512 I slept in her room that night 97 00:04:11,555 --> 00:04:13,992 because I truly thought that she was fine 98 00:04:14,036 --> 00:04:15,820 and that she'd be back. 99 00:04:15,864 --> 00:04:22,740 100 00:04:22,784 --> 00:04:26,483 - There's Alissa. How old are you, Alissa? 101 00:04:26,527 --> 00:04:28,398 - Ten. - No, you're not. 102 00:04:28,442 --> 00:04:30,008 - Yeah, I am. - You're five. 103 00:04:30,052 --> 00:04:33,708 You'll be six in about less than one month. 104 00:04:33,751 --> 00:04:36,493 - I am 17. - And there's Sarah. 105 00:04:36,537 --> 00:04:41,977 She is 16 months old and a rocker. 106 00:04:42,020 --> 00:04:44,806 Sarah, look at Mama. 107 00:04:44,849 --> 00:04:47,330 Hi. 108 00:04:47,374 --> 00:04:49,376 Can I see her? 109 00:04:49,419 --> 00:04:51,552 I wanna see her. I wanna see her, Mom. 110 00:04:51,595 --> 00:04:53,554 - Alissa wasn't just my sister. 111 00:04:53,597 --> 00:04:57,688 she was the only mom I really ever can remember 112 00:04:57,732 --> 00:05:00,387 because I never really got to know 113 00:05:00,430 --> 00:05:03,390 my mother, Barbara. 114 00:05:03,433 --> 00:05:05,566 - These are the boys pretending like 115 00:05:05,609 --> 00:05:07,916 they know how to play baseball. 116 00:05:07,959 --> 00:05:10,353 - My mom and dad met, and just a few years later, 117 00:05:10,397 --> 00:05:12,399 they got married. 118 00:05:12,442 --> 00:05:14,749 Mom was a mortgage loan officer, 119 00:05:14,792 --> 00:05:17,099 and my father was trying to get a mortgage, 120 00:05:17,142 --> 00:05:18,840 and they fell in love. 121 00:05:18,883 --> 00:05:21,843 - Now let me have it so I can take a picture of you. 122 00:05:21,886 --> 00:05:23,279 No. 123 00:05:23,323 --> 00:05:24,585 My father was 124 00:05:24,628 --> 00:05:26,195 a deputy sheriff for a few years, 125 00:05:26,238 --> 00:05:29,459 and then he became an electrician with the union. 126 00:05:29,503 --> 00:05:31,635 127 00:05:31,679 --> 00:05:33,768 My father came into the marriage 128 00:05:33,811 --> 00:05:35,683 with the three oldest boys, 129 00:05:35,726 --> 00:05:39,687 Rhett, James, and Mike. 130 00:05:41,558 --> 00:05:44,605 My mother had our brother John and Alissa 131 00:05:44,648 --> 00:05:48,086 from a previous marriage. 132 00:05:48,130 --> 00:05:49,436 And then together they had me. 133 00:05:49,479 --> 00:05:53,962 - Shnookums. Sarah. 134 00:05:54,005 --> 00:05:56,312 - So there were six kids in the house, 135 00:05:56,356 --> 00:05:58,575 and it was absolutely insane. 136 00:05:58,619 --> 00:06:00,490 Well, her face says it all. 137 00:06:00,534 --> 00:06:02,100 - So you're getting it-- you're getting your-- 138 00:06:02,144 --> 00:06:04,146 - "Step" or "half" was not a word 139 00:06:04,189 --> 00:06:05,582 that we were allowed to use. 140 00:06:05,626 --> 00:06:07,410 We grew up considering each other 141 00:06:07,454 --> 00:06:09,151 brothers and sisters. 142 00:06:09,194 --> 00:06:11,414 Dad, is Sarah your only baby? 143 00:06:11,458 --> 00:06:12,894 - Who? - Sarah. 144 00:06:12,937 --> 00:06:15,287 - Nope. John's my baby, and so are you. 145 00:06:15,331 --> 00:06:16,637 - Nuh-uh. 146 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:18,029 - Yeah, you'll always be our babies. 147 00:06:18,073 --> 00:06:20,205 - They're not step brothers and sisters? 148 00:06:20,249 --> 00:06:22,904 - Honey, we don't have any stepchildren in our family. 149 00:06:22,947 --> 00:06:26,647 - A lot of people called us the Brady Bunch. 150 00:06:26,690 --> 00:06:29,040 We were all one big family together 151 00:06:29,084 --> 00:06:31,956 - Alissa, I got the camera going, honey. 152 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:33,828 Dad, lookit. 153 00:06:33,871 --> 00:06:35,917 - Shnookums, are you helping your mom? 154 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:37,266 Mama! 155 00:06:37,309 --> 00:06:40,008 - Sarah was probably three when my sister 156 00:06:40,051 --> 00:06:42,271 first was diagnosed with the lung cancer. 157 00:06:42,314 --> 00:06:45,274 And we were told from the get-go 158 00:06:45,317 --> 00:06:48,146 that her diagnosis was terminal. 159 00:06:48,190 --> 00:06:50,671 - You know where we're at, Sarah? 160 00:06:50,714 --> 00:06:53,761 Are you here to see your mama? 161 00:06:53,804 --> 00:06:56,590 - Where'd Mama go? - In heaven. 162 00:06:56,633 --> 00:06:59,375 - Mama go to heaven? Is she happy now? 163 00:06:59,419 --> 00:07:01,856 - I don't know. - You don't know? 164 00:07:01,899 --> 00:07:04,380 Don't you think she'd be happy to be with God? 165 00:07:04,424 --> 00:07:07,383 166 00:07:07,427 --> 00:07:09,603 When my mom passed, 167 00:07:09,646 --> 00:07:13,041 everything really changed in the house. 168 00:07:13,084 --> 00:07:15,609 My dad was left with six kids 169 00:07:15,652 --> 00:07:18,525 all by himself. 170 00:07:18,568 --> 00:07:21,615 - Sarah and Alissa were very rambunctious. 171 00:07:21,658 --> 00:07:24,052 - Girls! Alissa! 172 00:07:24,095 --> 00:07:26,054 You guys stand here and look pretty so I can get-- 173 00:07:26,097 --> 00:07:28,404 Sarah! 174 00:07:28,448 --> 00:07:30,362 And they needed a mom. 175 00:07:30,406 --> 00:07:34,454 And Mike wasn't going to be able to provide that for them. 176 00:07:37,282 --> 00:07:39,633 Our house was dirtier. 177 00:07:39,676 --> 00:07:43,637 It really felt like living in a bachelor pad. 178 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:46,683 - I got a call one day from John. 179 00:07:46,727 --> 00:07:49,294 John was angry, and he said, you know, 180 00:07:49,338 --> 00:07:51,253 "Dad doesn't get up and take care of the girls. 181 00:07:51,296 --> 00:07:53,255 "He doesn't make sure they're going to school. 182 00:07:53,298 --> 00:07:54,517 There's no food in the house." 183 00:07:54,561 --> 00:07:56,780 184 00:07:56,824 --> 00:08:00,088 We would call, and it was not even a year 185 00:08:00,131 --> 00:08:04,135 after my sister passed that we were completely cut off. 186 00:08:04,179 --> 00:08:05,920 - Mm-hmm. I know. 187 00:08:05,963 --> 00:08:08,400 - All of a sudden, our aunts were gone. 188 00:08:08,444 --> 00:08:11,534 All of our brothers got older and moved out of the house. 189 00:08:11,578 --> 00:08:15,277 It was just me, my dad, and Alissa. 190 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:18,062 Alissa cooked and cleaned and did the chores 191 00:08:18,106 --> 00:08:20,195 and was responsible for making sure 192 00:08:20,238 --> 00:08:22,502 I had good clothes on for school 193 00:08:22,545 --> 00:08:25,113 and that my hair wasn't a mess. 194 00:08:25,156 --> 00:08:29,073 You know, there was a summer where no one brushed my hair, 195 00:08:29,117 --> 00:08:30,988 and somebody had to come over... 196 00:08:31,032 --> 00:08:34,035 [voice breaking] And detangle it for, like, two hours. 197 00:08:35,645 --> 00:08:37,212 It's not fair-- 198 00:08:37,255 --> 00:08:39,693 the responsibility that was put on her. 199 00:08:44,785 --> 00:08:48,484 I didn't talk about Alissa much after she was gone. 200 00:08:48,528 --> 00:08:51,443 I think it hurt too much. 201 00:08:51,487 --> 00:08:53,576 She mentions me in the note. 202 00:08:53,620 --> 00:08:55,535 "Sarah, you didn't want me around. 203 00:08:55,578 --> 00:08:58,146 "Look, you got it. I'm gone." 204 00:08:58,189 --> 00:09:00,191 I thought she left me there in that house 205 00:09:00,235 --> 00:09:02,629 to grow up alone. 206 00:09:02,672 --> 00:09:04,848 Alissa and I fought a lot. 207 00:09:04,892 --> 00:09:08,330 And we were true sisters in my mind, in terms of-- 208 00:09:08,373 --> 00:09:10,158 one minute we were screaming at each other 209 00:09:10,201 --> 00:09:11,899 and calling each other horrible names and pulling, 210 00:09:11,942 --> 00:09:14,249 you know, each other's hair, and then the next minute, 211 00:09:14,292 --> 00:09:17,339 we were dancing to R&B in our kitchen. 212 00:09:17,382 --> 00:09:19,863 That's just how it was. 213 00:09:19,907 --> 00:09:22,344 As Alissa got older and entered high school, 214 00:09:22,387 --> 00:09:24,999 I thought that she was the coolest. 215 00:09:25,042 --> 00:09:27,654 And she was experimenting with drinking 216 00:09:27,697 --> 00:09:29,264 and smoking marijuana. 217 00:09:29,307 --> 00:09:31,658 You know, normal teenage stuff. 218 00:09:31,701 --> 00:09:34,878 And I was an annoying little sister, 219 00:09:34,922 --> 00:09:37,577 and I would tattle on her. 220 00:09:37,620 --> 00:09:42,233 One of my last memories of Alissa was we'd fought... 221 00:09:42,277 --> 00:09:44,758 [voice breaking] And I did say something like, 222 00:09:44,801 --> 00:09:48,022 you know, if you hate it here so much, just leave, 223 00:09:48,065 --> 00:09:51,373 but, you know, I have to forgive myself. 224 00:09:51,416 --> 00:09:53,157 I was just a kid. 225 00:09:53,201 --> 00:09:55,769 Of course, I never really wanted her gone. 226 00:09:55,812 --> 00:09:58,467 227 00:09:58,510 --> 00:10:00,512 [sniffles] 228 00:10:00,556 --> 00:10:04,908 229 00:10:04,952 --> 00:10:08,477 I knew that by the time Alissa was 17, 230 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:13,482 she was ready to grow up and, you know, be an adult. 231 00:10:13,525 --> 00:10:17,007 And my dad told me that, on the day that she ran away, 232 00:10:17,051 --> 00:10:19,227 he picked up Alissa from school, 233 00:10:19,270 --> 00:10:21,882 took her to lunch, and they had some argument 234 00:10:21,925 --> 00:10:24,624 about how she just really wanted more freedom. 235 00:10:24,667 --> 00:10:28,453 He dropped her off at home, and his last memory 236 00:10:28,497 --> 00:10:31,239 was her walking down the hallway angry 237 00:10:31,282 --> 00:10:33,589 with her hair flying behind her. 238 00:10:33,633 --> 00:10:36,592 [tense music] 239 00:10:36,636 --> 00:10:38,289 240 00:10:38,333 --> 00:10:41,379 [phone ringing] 241 00:10:41,423 --> 00:10:44,513 And then about a week after Alissa ran away, 242 00:10:44,556 --> 00:10:46,863 my dad told me that a phone call came in 243 00:10:46,907 --> 00:10:48,822 at about 5:00 a.m. 244 00:10:48,865 --> 00:10:51,259 My father says it's Alissa on the other end, 245 00:10:51,302 --> 00:10:55,002 and she's cursing at him and telling him to leave her alone, 246 00:10:55,045 --> 00:10:57,700 and then all of a sudden, the phone call ends. 247 00:10:57,744 --> 00:10:59,746 248 00:10:59,789 --> 00:11:02,009 He goes to the phone company, 249 00:11:02,052 --> 00:11:04,098 and we find out that it's from a pay phone 250 00:11:04,141 --> 00:11:06,404 in Riverside, California. 251 00:11:06,448 --> 00:11:09,843 Soon after, I go on a trip with him to California. 252 00:11:09,886 --> 00:11:12,715 253 00:11:12,759 --> 00:11:14,717 We go to the convenience store. 254 00:11:14,761 --> 00:11:16,937 255 00:11:16,980 --> 00:11:19,287 But there's no surveillance. 256 00:11:19,330 --> 00:11:22,464 There's no trace of who made the call. 257 00:11:22,507 --> 00:11:25,380 Essentially there's nothing. 258 00:11:25,423 --> 00:11:28,383 But I remember my dad saying the phone call from Riverside 259 00:11:28,426 --> 00:11:32,953 was proof Alissa was out there still alive. 260 00:11:32,996 --> 00:11:37,000 I made her first missing poster, 261 00:11:37,044 --> 00:11:40,482 and my father put those posters up everywhere. 262 00:11:40,525 --> 00:11:43,398 263 00:11:43,441 --> 00:11:45,530 Him being frantic about Alissa 264 00:11:45,574 --> 00:11:47,489 was his constant state of being. 265 00:11:47,532 --> 00:11:54,409 266 00:12:02,330 --> 00:12:04,288 I just remember holding out hope 267 00:12:04,332 --> 00:12:06,987 that she'd be back when she turned 18. 268 00:12:07,030 --> 00:12:09,859 After she turns 18, she's free of our dad. 269 00:12:09,903 --> 00:12:13,167 She can do whatever she wants. 270 00:12:13,210 --> 00:12:16,387 So when Alissa didn't come back, 271 00:12:16,431 --> 00:12:19,913 it felt pretty clear to me that she may not want to come back. 272 00:12:19,956 --> 00:12:23,090 273 00:12:27,616 --> 00:12:30,271 When Alissa disappeared, 274 00:12:30,314 --> 00:12:33,665 we thought we did everything we could to try to find her, 275 00:12:33,709 --> 00:12:38,366 but a year later, nothing is happening. 276 00:12:38,409 --> 00:12:41,586 It was just me and my dad in the house. 277 00:12:41,630 --> 00:12:44,111 I felt so sorry for my dad. 278 00:12:44,154 --> 00:12:47,418 He fell into such a deep depression. 279 00:12:47,462 --> 00:12:49,594 He would tell me that something terrible 280 00:12:49,638 --> 00:12:51,292 could have happened to her-- 281 00:12:51,335 --> 00:12:55,296 like maybe she was forced into a sex-trafficking situation. 282 00:12:55,339 --> 00:12:59,256 I don't think I would allow myself to believe any of that. 283 00:12:59,300 --> 00:13:02,129 I was trying to block it out. 284 00:13:02,172 --> 00:13:05,828 I went from being this kid that was extremely scared 285 00:13:05,872 --> 00:13:09,092 of drugs and alcohol, and overnight, 286 00:13:09,136 --> 00:13:11,486 I started experimenting. 287 00:13:11,529 --> 00:13:13,793 [dramatic music] 288 00:13:13,836 --> 00:13:16,839 All the things that I was told Alissa was horrible for-- 289 00:13:16,883 --> 00:13:19,624 you know, the drinking and drugs-- 290 00:13:19,668 --> 00:13:22,105 my dad would supply me with. 291 00:13:22,149 --> 00:13:24,891 If I was anxious, he would give me a blue pill. 292 00:13:24,934 --> 00:13:26,457 If I'm a little sad, 293 00:13:26,501 --> 00:13:28,851 then it would be an orange pill. 294 00:13:28,895 --> 00:13:32,289 If you had a problem, we weren't talking through it. 295 00:13:32,333 --> 00:13:36,816 He was giving me some type of pill to make it better. 296 00:13:36,859 --> 00:13:39,209 I just missed Alissa so much 297 00:13:39,253 --> 00:13:42,822 that I was trying to refill this-- 298 00:13:42,865 --> 00:13:44,824 this hole that she's left in our family. 299 00:13:44,867 --> 00:13:46,434 I'm wearing her clothes, 300 00:13:46,477 --> 00:13:48,828 listening to all the same music, 301 00:13:48,871 --> 00:13:52,483 so when she came back, she would think, 302 00:13:52,527 --> 00:13:54,877 "Sarah's cool now, and we can be friends, 303 00:13:54,921 --> 00:13:56,966 and she's not going to tattle on me." 304 00:13:57,010 --> 00:13:59,142 [crying] I was just trying to pretend 305 00:13:59,186 --> 00:14:01,841 that everything was fine. 306 00:14:01,884 --> 00:14:04,844 [somber music] 307 00:14:04,887 --> 00:14:09,674 308 00:14:09,718 --> 00:14:11,633 When Alissa ran away, 309 00:14:11,676 --> 00:14:16,333 her father had called my house looking for her. 310 00:14:16,377 --> 00:14:20,511 That's how I found out that she had gone missing. 311 00:14:20,555 --> 00:14:23,384 I became friends with Alissa in high school. 312 00:14:23,427 --> 00:14:26,169 For the most part, we hung out at my house 313 00:14:26,213 --> 00:14:29,085 because she wanted to get away from her home 314 00:14:29,129 --> 00:14:31,000 as much as she could. 315 00:14:31,044 --> 00:14:35,787 - Alissa and I went to school together at Paradise Valley. 316 00:14:35,831 --> 00:14:40,575 Back when she went missing, Alissa's dad called me, 317 00:14:40,618 --> 00:14:45,406 yelling at me, wanting to know where she was. 318 00:14:45,449 --> 00:14:49,976 He knew she was with me, I needed to bring her home, 319 00:14:50,019 --> 00:14:53,457 but I didn't know where she was. 320 00:14:55,155 --> 00:14:59,724 Part of me was excited for her to get away from him. 321 00:14:59,768 --> 00:15:02,249 - Alissa? Alissa! 322 00:15:02,292 --> 00:15:03,990 Her dad was worried 323 00:15:04,033 --> 00:15:07,428 about what she was doing all the time. 324 00:15:07,471 --> 00:15:09,386 - Alissa... I've changed my mind. 325 00:15:09,430 --> 00:15:11,214 - You can't go to the prom. - Why? 326 00:15:11,258 --> 00:15:12,912 - Because I just changed my mind. 327 00:15:12,955 --> 00:15:14,565 - Why? - Because I said no. 328 00:15:14,609 --> 00:15:18,221 - What are you talking about? - I said you can't go. 329 00:15:18,265 --> 00:15:20,832 - But you look nice. - Yeah, right. 330 00:15:20,876 --> 00:15:24,401 I ain't going all through this just to not be able to go. 331 00:15:24,445 --> 00:15:26,751 - I know. Oh, my gosh, are you kidding me? 332 00:15:26,795 --> 00:15:28,449 No. 333 00:15:28,492 --> 00:15:31,539 - Every time that he would drop Alissa at my house, 334 00:15:31,582 --> 00:15:33,845 Michael made a point to speak with my parents 335 00:15:33,889 --> 00:15:36,631 about the things that she was and was not allowed to do. 336 00:15:36,674 --> 00:15:39,982 - Alissa, do not leave the building whatsoever. 337 00:15:40,026 --> 00:15:41,505 What? 338 00:15:41,549 --> 00:15:46,380 - He was very protective and defensive with Alissa. 339 00:15:46,423 --> 00:15:48,773 - And you ladies always be conspicuous, 340 00:15:48,817 --> 00:15:51,733 always stay in places. 341 00:15:51,776 --> 00:15:54,692 - My parents have said that Mike 342 00:15:54,736 --> 00:15:58,435 was a totally different person when Barbara was still alive. 343 00:15:58,479 --> 00:16:02,787 And after Barbara died, he sort of became 344 00:16:02,831 --> 00:16:04,876 more and more obsessive. 345 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:06,748 - Alissa. Alissa. 346 00:16:06,791 --> 00:16:09,969 - Alissa! - Huh? 347 00:16:10,012 --> 00:16:11,666 Alissa! 348 00:16:11,709 --> 00:16:15,887 - Mike always talked about how bad Alissa was. 349 00:16:15,931 --> 00:16:18,368 She was always being grounded. 350 00:16:18,412 --> 00:16:20,675 [soft dramatic music] 351 00:16:20,718 --> 00:16:23,286 It was so, like, toxic. 352 00:16:23,330 --> 00:16:25,810 - Dad, is this off? - It's off. 353 00:16:25,854 --> 00:16:27,464 [screams] 354 00:16:27,508 --> 00:16:30,032 Careful, don't jump on top of anybody, Alissa. 355 00:16:30,076 --> 00:16:31,947 [laughter] 356 00:16:31,991 --> 00:16:35,385 - Alissa was always treated as if she was some fire 357 00:16:35,429 --> 00:16:37,387 that couldn't be contained. 358 00:16:39,433 --> 00:16:42,653 I was constantly told that Alissa was out of control, 359 00:16:42,697 --> 00:16:44,655 that she was always drinking and always smoking 360 00:16:44,699 --> 00:16:47,006 and always getting into trouble. 361 00:16:47,049 --> 00:16:48,572 So I was scared for her. 362 00:16:48,616 --> 00:16:51,401 I thought that she was going down a really bad path. 363 00:16:52,924 --> 00:16:56,363 I think he convinced himself 364 00:16:56,406 --> 00:17:01,281 that he was protecting her from making poor choices. 365 00:17:01,324 --> 00:17:04,371 But we definitely thought it was crazy 366 00:17:04,414 --> 00:17:07,591 how overbearing he was. 367 00:17:14,250 --> 00:17:18,080 - Turn off that stupid camera. - [laughs] 368 00:17:18,124 --> 00:17:20,430 - Turn it off! - It's off. 369 00:17:20,474 --> 00:17:24,521 - Turn it off, Dad, and point it the other way. 370 00:17:24,565 --> 00:17:27,698 - I knew that her father had a passive recording system 371 00:17:27,742 --> 00:17:29,483 on their home telephone. 372 00:17:29,526 --> 00:17:31,920 If she was going to call me that day, 373 00:17:31,963 --> 00:17:34,227 you know, she would let me know, "Hey, remember, 374 00:17:34,270 --> 00:17:35,880 "these are always being recorded, 375 00:17:35,924 --> 00:17:38,144 so careful what you say." 376 00:17:41,843 --> 00:17:43,758 - Every time you picked up the receiver, 377 00:17:43,801 --> 00:17:46,065 it would automatically record the conversation. 378 00:17:46,108 --> 00:17:48,110 My dad used to be a police officer, 379 00:17:48,154 --> 00:17:50,373 and I assume that he knew what he was doing. 380 00:17:50,417 --> 00:17:52,593 You know, he was constantly scared 381 00:17:52,636 --> 00:17:54,725 of not being able to protect Alissa. 382 00:18:12,526 --> 00:18:15,398 I didn't think much of it. 383 00:18:15,442 --> 00:18:18,097 My dad was my best friend. 384 00:18:18,140 --> 00:18:21,404 He really wanted what was best for Alissa. 385 00:18:21,448 --> 00:18:25,104 I gotta set this thing up. 386 00:18:25,147 --> 00:18:28,063 [tense music] 387 00:18:28,107 --> 00:18:30,587 - My father started putting up surveillance cameras 388 00:18:30,631 --> 00:18:32,676 when I was in about middle school. 389 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:36,811 390 00:18:36,854 --> 00:18:38,943 I thought it was something that rich people had, 391 00:18:38,987 --> 00:18:40,467 so I was kind of excited. 392 00:18:40,510 --> 00:18:42,295 I thought it was very fancy. 393 00:18:42,338 --> 00:18:44,601 394 00:18:44,645 --> 00:18:48,736 - I did not understand why he would need cameras 395 00:18:48,779 --> 00:18:52,305 filming the perimeter of their house. 396 00:18:52,348 --> 00:18:55,134 What was he so paranoid about? 397 00:18:55,177 --> 00:18:57,832 - We got a camera lens missing somehow. 398 00:18:57,875 --> 00:19:02,097 - To hear that she lived in a situation where she was, 399 00:19:02,141 --> 00:19:04,882 literally, constantly being watched 400 00:19:04,926 --> 00:19:06,754 was very unnerving to me. 401 00:19:09,931 --> 00:19:12,586 [somber music] 402 00:19:12,629 --> 00:19:14,675 The day that my dad told me 403 00:19:14,718 --> 00:19:17,634 about the video camera in the vent, 404 00:19:17,678 --> 00:19:19,636 he said, "I got a new camera. 405 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:21,334 "This is to watch your sister 406 00:19:21,377 --> 00:19:23,423 "to make sure she doesn't get in trouble. 407 00:19:23,466 --> 00:19:25,207 Don't tell her." 408 00:19:26,817 --> 00:19:31,300 He was just watching every move she made. 409 00:19:31,344 --> 00:19:33,650 At this time, I'm maybe ten. 410 00:19:33,694 --> 00:19:36,523 I really thought that that was good parenting. 411 00:19:36,566 --> 00:19:39,047 Jack in the Box. 412 00:19:39,090 --> 00:19:42,006 - Alissa got a job at Jack in the Box. 413 00:19:42,050 --> 00:19:45,184 This was Alissa's real first taste of freedom, 414 00:19:45,227 --> 00:19:46,576 making her own money. 415 00:19:46,620 --> 00:19:49,840 And our dad would watch her obsessively. 416 00:19:49,884 --> 00:19:53,540 My dad wanted to know everyone that was working with her. 417 00:19:53,583 --> 00:19:56,369 - You got me in trouble, Dad. - How'd I do that? 418 00:19:56,412 --> 00:19:58,458 - Because that freakin' ass[bleep] Mike, 419 00:19:58,501 --> 00:20:01,069 he looks, and he goes, "That's illegal. 420 00:20:01,112 --> 00:20:02,201 He can't do that." 421 00:20:02,244 --> 00:20:03,767 And I was like, "That's my dad." 422 00:20:03,811 --> 00:20:04,812 Which one's Mike? 423 00:20:04,855 --> 00:20:06,205 The one that was talking to you? 424 00:20:06,248 --> 00:20:07,684 - No, the one-- I don't know. 425 00:20:07,728 --> 00:20:10,383 The one that drives that nice-ass Mustang. 426 00:20:10,426 --> 00:20:12,385 - Alissa told me how uncomfortable 427 00:20:12,428 --> 00:20:14,474 it would make her feel that, you know, 428 00:20:14,517 --> 00:20:17,520 he was constantly watching her every move. 429 00:20:17,564 --> 00:20:19,870 And it made me uncomfortable. 430 00:20:19,914 --> 00:20:23,570 Why in the world would he need to do something like that? 431 00:20:23,613 --> 00:20:26,921 Part of me hoped Alissa actually had run away 432 00:20:26,964 --> 00:20:28,836 for her own well-being. 433 00:20:28,879 --> 00:20:33,536 434 00:20:33,580 --> 00:20:36,496 - As time goes by, days turn to weeks, 435 00:20:36,539 --> 00:20:39,629 turn to months, turn to years. 436 00:20:39,673 --> 00:20:42,763 Alissa never came back. 437 00:20:42,806 --> 00:20:47,550 - As time goes on, your mind just comes up 438 00:20:47,594 --> 00:20:50,727 with every possible conclusion 439 00:20:50,771 --> 00:20:54,470 of what could have happened to her. 440 00:20:54,514 --> 00:20:58,039 - I hoped that Alissa actually ran away, 441 00:20:58,082 --> 00:20:59,562 but a bigger part of me 442 00:20:59,606 --> 00:21:01,738 believed that it was impossible, 443 00:21:01,782 --> 00:21:04,088 because I knew that she would never have left 444 00:21:04,132 --> 00:21:06,308 Sarah alone in that house. 445 00:21:06,352 --> 00:21:13,489 446 00:21:17,754 --> 00:21:22,193 - I inherited Alissa Turney's investigation in 2008. 447 00:21:22,237 --> 00:21:25,806 She had been gone for seven years at that point. 448 00:21:25,849 --> 00:21:28,852 In Arizona, law enforcement treats runaways 449 00:21:28,896 --> 00:21:32,203 in pretty much a passive demeanor, 450 00:21:32,247 --> 00:21:34,771 especially if it's somebody like Alissa, 451 00:21:34,815 --> 00:21:38,122 who's left a note behind, who's communicated 452 00:21:38,166 --> 00:21:40,951 to her family that she does not want to be at home. 453 00:21:40,995 --> 00:21:44,868 Also, one week after she left home, 454 00:21:44,912 --> 00:21:47,480 she's reported to have called home. 455 00:21:47,523 --> 00:21:51,179 So she's alive and well at that point, too. 456 00:21:51,222 --> 00:21:55,096 But there's something curious about this case. 457 00:21:55,139 --> 00:21:58,360 She's never contacted any of her family members, 458 00:21:58,404 --> 00:22:02,146 never contacted any of her friends. 459 00:22:02,190 --> 00:22:05,846 Honestly, I'm having trouble with a teenage girl 460 00:22:05,889 --> 00:22:10,329 cutting all ties with everybody she's ever known. 461 00:22:10,372 --> 00:22:12,374 That just doesn't happen. 462 00:22:12,418 --> 00:22:15,246 That speaks of some deep psychopathy 463 00:22:15,290 --> 00:22:20,121 or that suggests something nefarious happened to her. 464 00:22:20,164 --> 00:22:24,560 My job is to figure out what could have gone wrong. 465 00:22:28,782 --> 00:22:31,567 - About seven years after Alissa went missing, 466 00:22:31,611 --> 00:22:34,831 I got a call from someone named Detective Andersen, 467 00:22:34,875 --> 00:22:37,747 and he asks me to come down to the station 468 00:22:37,791 --> 00:22:39,488 for a formal interview. 469 00:22:48,628 --> 00:22:51,326 Sarah Turney is 19 at time. 470 00:22:51,370 --> 00:22:54,460 I tell her, "Hey, I need to know more about Alissa. 471 00:22:54,503 --> 00:22:57,245 "I need to establish a pattern of life. 472 00:22:57,288 --> 00:22:59,160 What is normal for her?" 473 00:23:10,432 --> 00:23:13,609 - Sarah tells me Alissa was the kind of person 474 00:23:13,653 --> 00:23:16,743 that if a strange carload of boys pulled up and said, 475 00:23:16,786 --> 00:23:18,962 "Hey, do you want to go to a party?" 476 00:23:19,006 --> 00:23:22,226 She'd jump in the car without hesitation. 477 00:23:22,270 --> 00:23:26,100 And then I asked about things that were left behind. 478 00:23:32,846 --> 00:23:34,630 Yeah. 479 00:23:34,674 --> 00:23:37,067 - Sarah also mentions the cellular phone. 480 00:23:37,111 --> 00:23:40,941 It's odd that she would leave that phone behind. 481 00:23:40,984 --> 00:23:43,465 Working in missing persons cases, 482 00:23:43,509 --> 00:23:48,209 I have not had another instance in which a child left the home 483 00:23:48,252 --> 00:23:50,298 and left behind their phone. 484 00:23:50,341 --> 00:23:53,780 These are concerning details. 485 00:23:53,823 --> 00:23:56,391 And then I asked Sarah to describe 486 00:23:56,435 --> 00:23:59,742 the relationship between Alissa and her father, Mike. 487 00:24:22,069 --> 00:24:25,028 - Sarah believes that her father's dedicated 488 00:24:25,072 --> 00:24:28,118 his life towards finding out what happened to Alissa. 489 00:24:28,162 --> 00:24:29,990 [tense music] 490 00:24:30,033 --> 00:24:32,514 So I call Michael Turney. 491 00:24:32,558 --> 00:24:36,605 Obviously he's the only adult in the home when this happened. 492 00:24:36,649 --> 00:24:39,173 Mike declines to do a formal interview, 493 00:24:39,216 --> 00:24:40,348 and that's fine. 494 00:24:40,391 --> 00:24:42,089 I still have him on the phone. 495 00:24:42,132 --> 00:24:45,658 He's still relatively cooperative. 496 00:24:45,701 --> 00:24:49,009 Mike was all about the cop talk. 497 00:24:49,052 --> 00:24:53,187 He introduced himself as former law enforcement, 498 00:24:53,230 --> 00:24:56,277 and he's so happy that we're paying attention to this. 499 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:59,323 Mike points to the boyfriend, 500 00:24:59,367 --> 00:25:02,109 saying that the boyfriend, Jon Laakman, 501 00:25:02,152 --> 00:25:05,199 was physically violent towards Alissa. 502 00:25:05,242 --> 00:25:08,550 And Mike tells me that he has a videotape 503 00:25:08,594 --> 00:25:10,944 that he thinks I'd be interested in 504 00:25:10,987 --> 00:25:13,903 of an interaction between Alissa and Jon 505 00:25:13,947 --> 00:25:18,081 taken at her home the day before Alissa left. 506 00:25:18,125 --> 00:25:21,128 So, in my mind, this is a possible catalyst 507 00:25:21,171 --> 00:25:24,261 that pushed her outside of the home. 508 00:25:24,305 --> 00:25:27,134 [ominous music] 509 00:25:27,177 --> 00:25:31,399 There's an outdoor carport view 510 00:25:31,442 --> 00:25:35,446 that shows Alissa and Jon walking off camera. 511 00:25:35,490 --> 00:25:38,754 And then Alissa comes back and throws a cordless phone 512 00:25:38,798 --> 00:25:41,235 against a wall. 513 00:25:41,278 --> 00:25:44,673 And then it switches to an interior view. 514 00:25:44,717 --> 00:25:48,372 515 00:25:48,416 --> 00:25:50,244 She's obviously upset. 516 00:25:50,287 --> 00:25:52,899 You can hear him squealing his tires 517 00:25:52,942 --> 00:25:54,553 and taking off down the street. 518 00:25:54,596 --> 00:25:57,120 [tires squealing] 519 00:25:57,164 --> 00:26:00,080 That is amazingly significant. 520 00:26:00,123 --> 00:26:03,213 We've got interior coverage of the home. 521 00:26:03,257 --> 00:26:05,868 That's wonderful because maybe 522 00:26:05,912 --> 00:26:08,305 there is video footage from the last day 523 00:26:08,349 --> 00:26:11,091 she was seen in the home, from May 17th. 524 00:26:11,134 --> 00:26:13,789 We figure out where Jon is, 525 00:26:13,833 --> 00:26:16,879 and then we bring him in for an interview. 526 00:26:39,423 --> 00:26:41,295 - How is he responding, you know, 527 00:26:41,338 --> 00:26:44,994 physically to what's being said? 528 00:26:45,038 --> 00:26:48,998 We're looking for those indications of deception. 529 00:26:49,042 --> 00:26:51,131 Jon doesn't give us any. 530 00:26:51,174 --> 00:26:53,089 Jon talks openly. 531 00:26:53,133 --> 00:26:56,049 He's hurt that Alissa never called him. 532 00:26:56,092 --> 00:26:58,965 He feels like he was dumped. 533 00:26:59,008 --> 00:27:02,055 And not knowing that we have that video, 534 00:27:02,098 --> 00:27:04,448 he says he went over to Alissa's house, 535 00:27:04,492 --> 00:27:06,886 and he was stopped by Mike Turney. 536 00:27:06,929 --> 00:27:10,063 And Mike told him, "She's cheating on you 537 00:27:10,106 --> 00:27:13,196 with a guy from work." 538 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:17,331 539 00:27:17,374 --> 00:27:20,334 Jon obviously reacted poorly to that. 540 00:27:20,377 --> 00:27:24,512 He confronted Alissa, and then he stormed out of the house. 541 00:27:24,555 --> 00:27:26,993 He's describing that event. 542 00:27:27,036 --> 00:27:30,518 So that event, in my mind, goes from, 543 00:27:30,561 --> 00:27:34,653 here's evidence of a violent, psychopathic boyfriend... 544 00:27:34,696 --> 00:27:37,133 to a staged scene. 545 00:27:37,177 --> 00:27:39,658 I mean, it's-- it's manufactured 546 00:27:39,701 --> 00:27:41,311 by Michael Turney. 547 00:27:41,355 --> 00:27:43,444 548 00:27:43,487 --> 00:27:46,839 And then Jon tells me a story of Alissa 549 00:27:46,882 --> 00:27:48,449 that is very concerning. 550 00:28:06,162 --> 00:28:10,732 - That is a very, very difficult, 551 00:28:10,776 --> 00:28:14,301 very taxing thing for a 17-year-old girl 552 00:28:14,344 --> 00:28:16,782 to talk about... 553 00:28:16,825 --> 00:28:20,437 saying that she was sexually abused by her father. 554 00:28:20,481 --> 00:28:22,396 555 00:28:22,439 --> 00:28:25,878 This is a darker turn in Alissa's case. 556 00:28:25,921 --> 00:28:29,316 557 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:32,885 We immediately start reaching out to other people 558 00:28:32,928 --> 00:28:36,236 in Alissa's realm-- every living relative, 559 00:28:36,279 --> 00:28:40,414 secondary relatives, cousins, neighbors, 560 00:28:40,457 --> 00:28:42,851 former babysitters, 561 00:28:42,895 --> 00:28:44,897 anybody I could contact. 562 00:28:44,940 --> 00:28:48,335 And I interviewed Alissa's brother Rhett, 563 00:28:48,378 --> 00:28:51,599 and Rhett tells me a story of Alissa, 564 00:28:51,642 --> 00:28:54,254 tears coming from her eyes, she's shaking, 565 00:28:54,297 --> 00:28:58,258 she's emotional, and it's that same story. 566 00:29:09,965 --> 00:29:14,709 - She's telling Rhett that her father took her driving 567 00:29:14,753 --> 00:29:19,888 and then sexually abused her, touched her. 568 00:29:19,932 --> 00:29:23,283 Rhett never told anybody about that. 569 00:29:23,326 --> 00:29:26,852 Later on, we have a third source, Jessica, 570 00:29:26,895 --> 00:29:29,332 close friend of Alissa's, 571 00:29:29,376 --> 00:29:32,379 telling us that he tried something on her. 572 00:29:45,087 --> 00:29:47,655 Speaking to the police when I did, 573 00:29:47,698 --> 00:29:49,831 I was just grateful 574 00:29:49,875 --> 00:29:53,182 that they were finally looking into it. 575 00:30:01,843 --> 00:30:04,628 - So that's three people all saying 576 00:30:04,672 --> 00:30:07,501 that Alissa Turney told them that her father 577 00:30:07,544 --> 00:30:09,938 had molested her. 578 00:30:09,982 --> 00:30:11,374 I guess at the time, 579 00:30:11,418 --> 00:30:15,335 we didn't necessarily know any better. 580 00:30:15,378 --> 00:30:18,294 What are teenage girls supposed to do? 581 00:30:18,338 --> 00:30:21,820 Who could they tell when the people 582 00:30:21,863 --> 00:30:23,734 who are supposed to protect them 583 00:30:23,778 --> 00:30:25,693 are the ones hurting them? 584 00:30:25,736 --> 00:30:28,739 585 00:30:28,783 --> 00:30:31,090 - Alissa and I were sitting in my bedroom, 586 00:30:31,133 --> 00:30:33,005 and I just remember looking over to her 587 00:30:33,048 --> 00:30:35,398 and seeing... 588 00:30:35,442 --> 00:30:39,272 this, like, defeated look on her face. 589 00:30:39,315 --> 00:30:42,362 I pressed her, I pressed her-- "What's going on?" 590 00:30:42,405 --> 00:30:45,713 She finally decided to share with me an experience 591 00:30:45,756 --> 00:30:48,150 that she had with Michael. 592 00:30:48,194 --> 00:30:49,804 She was gagged. 593 00:30:49,848 --> 00:30:53,939 Mike was on top of her, and he was suffocating her. 594 00:31:06,516 --> 00:31:09,911 I was completely beside myself. 595 00:31:09,955 --> 00:31:14,046 But she said, "Don't ever share this with anyone. 596 00:31:14,089 --> 00:31:17,658 "If you do, it might mean that I'll be pulled away from Sarah, 597 00:31:17,701 --> 00:31:19,051 "and I can't have that. 598 00:31:19,094 --> 00:31:22,489 You know, I could not live with that." 599 00:31:22,532 --> 00:31:25,405 She believed that Sarah needed her. 600 00:31:25,448 --> 00:31:27,842 She was the one that took care of Sarah, 601 00:31:27,886 --> 00:31:31,237 that was that mother figure in her life. 602 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,935 She did not want to leave Sarah alone with Michael. 603 00:31:33,979 --> 00:31:37,547 604 00:31:37,591 --> 00:31:41,551 - Alissa Turney was making that cry for help. 605 00:31:41,595 --> 00:31:44,990 She's suffering this kind of abuse inside her own home. 606 00:31:45,033 --> 00:31:47,601 607 00:31:47,644 --> 00:31:50,996 And that home is keeping secrets. 608 00:31:51,039 --> 00:31:53,650 609 00:31:58,351 --> 00:32:01,223 - As the investigation progresses, 610 00:32:01,267 --> 00:32:02,964 I know now 611 00:32:03,008 --> 00:32:06,315 that there is internal and external security cameras 612 00:32:06,359 --> 00:32:08,883 at Alissa Turney's house. 613 00:32:08,927 --> 00:32:11,842 So maybe there's footage from the last day Alissa 614 00:32:11,886 --> 00:32:15,585 was at home, May 17th of 2001. 615 00:32:15,629 --> 00:32:18,980 That's a valuable piece of evidence to me. 616 00:32:19,024 --> 00:32:23,724 I asked Mike if he can provide me with that tape. 617 00:32:23,767 --> 00:32:25,378 Mike kind of hems and haws. 618 00:32:25,421 --> 00:32:27,597 He's not sure if he still has that one. 619 00:32:27,641 --> 00:32:29,773 He'll have to look around for it. 620 00:32:29,817 --> 00:32:33,473 I consider that odd because it's the last day 621 00:32:33,516 --> 00:32:36,258 your child was seen alive. 622 00:32:36,302 --> 00:32:38,782 That's something that you keep. 623 00:32:38,826 --> 00:32:42,264 And Sarah Turney had mentioned that there is 624 00:32:42,308 --> 00:32:44,832 a cassette tape player that records 625 00:32:44,875 --> 00:32:47,748 incoming and outgoing calls on that phone. 626 00:32:47,791 --> 00:32:49,968 We know from Mike Turney's statement 627 00:32:50,011 --> 00:32:54,015 back in 2001 that, one week after she left the home, 628 00:32:54,059 --> 00:32:55,408 Alissa called home. 629 00:32:55,451 --> 00:32:57,453 Again, I tell Mike, 630 00:32:57,497 --> 00:33:00,891 I want to hear a recording of that phone call, 631 00:33:00,935 --> 00:33:03,068 but he doesn't have it. 632 00:33:03,111 --> 00:33:06,027 Michael's behavior towards me 633 00:33:06,071 --> 00:33:08,899 has become progressively worse, 634 00:33:08,943 --> 00:33:11,032 and I need those tapes. 635 00:33:11,076 --> 00:33:13,252 [tense music] 636 00:33:15,994 --> 00:33:18,735 - In 2008, I got a call from Detective Andersen, 637 00:33:18,779 --> 00:33:21,260 who said that he had news about Alissa. 638 00:33:21,303 --> 00:33:23,218 He asked if I could come down to the station 639 00:33:23,262 --> 00:33:25,568 to speak with him about it. 640 00:33:25,612 --> 00:33:28,049 So, that morning, I was really excited. 641 00:33:28,093 --> 00:33:30,878 I thought it was going to be something huge. 642 00:33:30,921 --> 00:33:34,142 - OK. All right. 643 00:34:08,742 --> 00:34:09,873 Yes... 644 00:34:15,270 --> 00:34:18,360 [Sarah sniffles, cries] 645 00:34:27,282 --> 00:34:29,371 [Sarah cries] 646 00:34:36,074 --> 00:34:40,252 - I couldn't absorb that information. 647 00:34:40,295 --> 00:34:41,992 And I just kept saying, "I need to go home. 648 00:34:42,036 --> 00:34:44,647 I have to get out of here. I have to get back to my dad." 649 00:34:44,691 --> 00:34:47,520 Before that moment, I never felt like the police 650 00:34:47,563 --> 00:34:50,305 were circling in on my dad-- I was clueless. 651 00:34:50,349 --> 00:34:53,308 [sirens wailing] 652 00:34:53,352 --> 00:34:56,094 653 00:34:56,137 --> 00:34:59,184 - I was there looking for items in the home, 654 00:34:59,227 --> 00:35:01,490 any clue, any piece of evidence 655 00:35:01,534 --> 00:35:04,928 that might explain what might have happened to Alissa. 656 00:35:04,972 --> 00:35:08,454 When Mr. Turney came out of his house 657 00:35:08,497 --> 00:35:10,151 to go check his mail, 658 00:35:10,195 --> 00:35:13,502 that's when he was intercepted by SWAT officers. 659 00:35:13,546 --> 00:35:17,158 He was equipped with multiple firearms, 660 00:35:17,202 --> 00:35:20,161 knives, and a recording device 661 00:35:20,205 --> 00:35:22,337 that he had donned 662 00:35:22,381 --> 00:35:24,209 all just to make that walk 663 00:35:24,252 --> 00:35:26,298 from the front door to the mailbox. 664 00:35:27,777 --> 00:35:29,562 - We're looking for documents 665 00:35:29,605 --> 00:35:31,259 that have to do with Alissa Turney. 666 00:35:31,303 --> 00:35:33,522 667 00:35:33,566 --> 00:35:37,265 We're looking for all the security tapes. 668 00:35:38,919 --> 00:35:41,617 But what we find is... 669 00:35:43,315 --> 00:35:45,708 So much more. 670 00:35:45,752 --> 00:35:49,843 671 00:35:49,886 --> 00:35:53,499 - I recall walking into the front hallway area 672 00:35:53,542 --> 00:35:56,197 and seeing firearms lined up... 673 00:35:56,241 --> 00:35:58,547 674 00:35:58,591 --> 00:36:01,681 Just a massive amount of weapons. 675 00:36:01,724 --> 00:36:05,032 - Shotguns, rifles, other pistols, 676 00:36:05,075 --> 00:36:08,905 a wealth of ammunition for everything possible. 677 00:36:08,949 --> 00:36:11,691 678 00:36:11,734 --> 00:36:14,781 It was an epic mess. 679 00:36:14,824 --> 00:36:16,174 680 00:36:16,217 --> 00:36:19,916 There were just piles of things everywhere. 681 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:23,485 682 00:36:23,529 --> 00:36:25,705 VHS tapes, 683 00:36:25,748 --> 00:36:29,404 recordings of telephone calls... 684 00:36:29,448 --> 00:36:31,928 there are thousands of them. 685 00:36:31,972 --> 00:36:36,411 - But I would suspect that Mr. Turney himself knew 686 00:36:36,455 --> 00:36:39,109 where every single thing was. 687 00:36:39,153 --> 00:36:42,112 688 00:36:42,156 --> 00:36:46,552 - We come across videotapes that show Michael 689 00:36:46,595 --> 00:36:50,512 having sex with a particular woman. 690 00:36:50,556 --> 00:36:53,820 We also found Polaroids. 691 00:36:53,863 --> 00:36:56,039 692 00:36:56,083 --> 00:37:00,348 The woman is bound and blindfolded. 693 00:37:01,654 --> 00:37:05,223 - For whatever reason, sexually or otherwise, 694 00:37:05,266 --> 00:37:09,139 he is incredibly drawn to dominance and control. 695 00:37:09,183 --> 00:37:12,360 And then when you add to that 696 00:37:12,404 --> 00:37:17,147 what Alissa's friends are saying she experienced, 697 00:37:17,191 --> 00:37:20,368 it becomes much more disturbing at that point. 698 00:37:20,412 --> 00:37:23,719 699 00:37:23,763 --> 00:37:27,636 And then one of our detectives opens a bag, 700 00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,770 and he sees improvised explosive devices, 701 00:37:30,813 --> 00:37:31,945 pipe bombs. 702 00:37:31,988 --> 00:37:37,385 703 00:37:37,429 --> 00:37:40,083 We immediately evacuate the home. 704 00:37:41,694 --> 00:37:43,609 And then we look towards an old van 705 00:37:43,652 --> 00:37:45,915 that's in the backyard. 706 00:37:45,959 --> 00:37:48,483 The van appears to be full of trash 707 00:37:48,527 --> 00:37:50,355 upon first inspection, 708 00:37:50,398 --> 00:37:54,228 but then you take a closer look... 709 00:37:54,272 --> 00:37:58,493 it becomes very apparent that the van itself is a bomb. 710 00:37:58,537 --> 00:38:01,191 711 00:38:01,235 --> 00:38:05,848 - It had propane and bleach and nails in the wheel wells. 712 00:38:05,892 --> 00:38:10,244 The van, as it turns out, was a giant bomb. 713 00:38:10,288 --> 00:38:12,638 Then we get into his safe. 714 00:38:12,681 --> 00:38:15,684 Inside the safe are multiple envelopes 715 00:38:15,728 --> 00:38:19,035 addressed to ABC, NBC. 716 00:38:19,079 --> 00:38:22,561 Inside each of them are little thumb drives. 717 00:38:22,604 --> 00:38:26,129 The thumb drives contain his manifesto-- 718 00:38:26,173 --> 00:38:28,262 "The Diary of a Madman." 719 00:38:28,306 --> 00:38:31,352 720 00:38:31,396 --> 00:38:34,224 Mr. Turney had felt insulted 721 00:38:34,268 --> 00:38:38,794 by the Brotherhood of Electrical Workers. 722 00:38:38,838 --> 00:38:40,274 He was an electrician, 723 00:38:40,318 --> 00:38:44,757 and he believes that he was treated very poorly, 724 00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:47,107 concerning stories about union members 725 00:38:47,150 --> 00:38:49,718 having attempted to kill him before, 726 00:38:49,762 --> 00:38:53,287 having a long-term grudge against him. 727 00:38:53,331 --> 00:38:56,812 - He was planning to drive the van into 728 00:38:56,856 --> 00:38:58,510 the International Brotherhood 729 00:38:58,553 --> 00:39:00,599 of Electrical Workers Union Hall 730 00:39:00,642 --> 00:39:04,254 to commit a mass murder. 731 00:39:04,298 --> 00:39:07,519 - Michael says that Alissa was abducted by the union 732 00:39:07,562 --> 00:39:09,651 and murdered 733 00:39:09,695 --> 00:39:12,088 and that her body was dumped in California. 734 00:39:12,132 --> 00:39:14,743 None of these things make sense. 735 00:39:14,787 --> 00:39:17,267 - 29 pipe bombs and numerous guns 736 00:39:17,311 --> 00:39:19,139 were found inside the home. 737 00:39:19,182 --> 00:39:23,099 738 00:39:23,143 --> 00:39:25,580 - Michael invokes his rights to an attorney 739 00:39:25,624 --> 00:39:27,626 and refuses to interview. 740 00:39:27,669 --> 00:39:29,628 741 00:39:29,671 --> 00:39:32,674 He is arrested for the possession 742 00:39:32,718 --> 00:39:35,677 of the explosives... 743 00:39:35,721 --> 00:39:37,853 but we're never able 744 00:39:37,897 --> 00:39:41,944 to find the security video from May 17th of 2001 745 00:39:41,988 --> 00:39:44,730 or the early-morning phone call 746 00:39:44,773 --> 00:39:47,210 from that pay phone, 747 00:39:47,254 --> 00:39:49,909 so we remain convinced that Alissa was last seen 748 00:39:49,952 --> 00:39:51,606 in the company of her father 749 00:39:51,650 --> 00:39:53,695 when she was picked up on May 17th, 750 00:39:53,739 --> 00:39:56,524 and we have no idea what's happened to her since. 751 00:39:56,568 --> 00:40:00,876 Michael Turney remains the only suspect in this case. 752 00:40:04,184 --> 00:40:06,012 [ominous music] 753 00:40:06,055 --> 00:40:08,057 When my father was arrested, 754 00:40:08,101 --> 00:40:11,365 it was just a horrible, horrible experience. 755 00:40:11,409 --> 00:40:14,499 I was pretending as if it wasn't really happening. 756 00:40:14,542 --> 00:40:17,110 I mean, I was in complete denial. 757 00:40:17,153 --> 00:40:20,026 I couldn't believe that he was the man 758 00:40:20,069 --> 00:40:22,071 that the police were making him out to be. 759 00:40:22,115 --> 00:40:24,422 760 00:40:24,465 --> 00:40:27,773 Growing up, there were always guns in my house. 761 00:40:27,816 --> 00:40:29,992 - [gunshot] - Oh! 762 00:40:30,036 --> 00:40:34,127 That was my normal. 763 00:40:34,170 --> 00:40:35,911 And when I heard about his plan 764 00:40:35,955 --> 00:40:38,261 to hurt all these people, I really thought 765 00:40:38,305 --> 00:40:41,613 that it was some fantasy writing of his. 766 00:40:41,656 --> 00:40:44,877 And my dad told me that the Phoenix Police Department 767 00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:47,488 planted those pipe bombs. 768 00:40:47,532 --> 00:40:50,448 I believed that he was innocent. 769 00:40:50,491 --> 00:40:53,320 My father was sentenced to ten years in prison 770 00:40:53,363 --> 00:40:56,802 for the pipe bombs that were found in the home. 771 00:40:56,845 --> 00:40:58,456 I was just starting college, 772 00:40:58,499 --> 00:41:00,893 and my whole life turned upside down. 773 00:41:00,936 --> 00:41:02,938 All of a sudden, I had the responsibility 774 00:41:02,982 --> 00:41:04,897 of a house and three dogs. 775 00:41:04,940 --> 00:41:06,638 I was his biggest supporter. 776 00:41:06,681 --> 00:41:08,727 777 00:41:08,770 --> 00:41:11,512 I started a website for him. 778 00:41:11,556 --> 00:41:13,775 I started a petition for him. 779 00:41:13,819 --> 00:41:15,560 I was actively trying to get him out. 780 00:41:15,603 --> 00:41:19,085 I believed that he was wrongfully convicted. 781 00:41:19,128 --> 00:41:22,001 And I thought the police had to be wrong. 782 00:41:22,044 --> 00:41:24,830 It was difficult to be forced out of my home like that. 783 00:41:24,873 --> 00:41:27,659 I just love my father and just want to stick by him. 784 00:41:27,702 --> 00:41:29,922 We know that he had nothing to do 785 00:41:29,965 --> 00:41:32,011 with the disappearance of my sister. 786 00:41:32,054 --> 00:41:34,579 He's very loving. I mean, he's the only parent I have. 787 00:41:34,622 --> 00:41:37,538 And he's the best dad I could ask for. 788 00:41:37,582 --> 00:41:42,456 - Sarah was very protective and defensive about her father. 789 00:41:42,500 --> 00:41:45,067 But if he was capable of this, 790 00:41:45,111 --> 00:41:48,636 how could he not be capable of Alissa's disappearance? 791 00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:51,987 - When they found bombs in his house 792 00:41:52,031 --> 00:41:55,774 and the search warrant was something related 793 00:41:55,817 --> 00:41:57,776 to Alissa's disappearance, 794 00:41:57,819 --> 00:42:00,605 I knew in my soul 795 00:42:00,648 --> 00:42:03,695 that this man murdered Alissa. 796 00:42:10,876 --> 00:42:12,791 - That whole time my dad was in prison 797 00:42:12,834 --> 00:42:14,619 was really, really rough. 798 00:42:14,662 --> 00:42:16,185 He was constantly telling me 799 00:42:16,229 --> 00:42:18,405 how sick he was getting in prison 800 00:42:18,448 --> 00:42:19,972 and how he needed to get out. 801 00:42:20,015 --> 00:42:22,627 My father asks me to essentially act 802 00:42:22,670 --> 00:42:24,759 as his legal secretary. 803 00:42:24,803 --> 00:42:26,674 "Dear Sarah, I'm sending you the originals 804 00:42:26,718 --> 00:42:28,241 "of two important documents. 805 00:42:28,284 --> 00:42:30,896 "One is an affirmation witness statement. 806 00:42:30,939 --> 00:42:32,332 When I was..." 807 00:42:32,375 --> 00:42:34,682 I was immediately given legal power of attorney 808 00:42:34,726 --> 00:42:36,771 over all of his assets. 809 00:42:36,815 --> 00:42:38,817 I took over the mortgage, the house, 810 00:42:38,860 --> 00:42:40,819 and the responsibility of helping him 811 00:42:40,862 --> 00:42:42,777 fight his legal case. 812 00:42:42,821 --> 00:42:45,040 [somber music] 813 00:42:45,084 --> 00:42:47,303 All the while, he was telling me 814 00:42:47,347 --> 00:42:49,523 he was the only one that loved me and cared for me 815 00:42:49,567 --> 00:42:52,178 and how he wishes he could be out and take care of me 816 00:42:52,221 --> 00:42:54,833 like he's supposed to, like a dad. 817 00:42:54,876 --> 00:42:57,531 And that went on for years. 818 00:42:57,575 --> 00:42:59,751 819 00:42:59,794 --> 00:43:01,927 Eventually he does tell me, 820 00:43:01,970 --> 00:43:04,059 "Just give the house back to the bank." 821 00:43:04,103 --> 00:43:06,148 I end up moving around a little bit. 822 00:43:06,192 --> 00:43:09,412 I graduate from college. I buy my own home. 823 00:43:09,456 --> 00:43:11,937 And over the years, our relationship 824 00:43:11,980 --> 00:43:14,635 just starts to turn. 825 00:43:14,679 --> 00:43:18,204 My dad just wasn't interested in anything but himself. 826 00:43:18,247 --> 00:43:20,946 You know, he let me go bankrupt 827 00:43:20,989 --> 00:43:24,079 paying for things like him to have a TV in prison, 828 00:43:24,123 --> 00:43:26,821 to constantly send him hundreds and hundreds of dollars 829 00:43:26,865 --> 00:43:29,215 in commissary money. 830 00:43:29,258 --> 00:43:31,696 It didn't matter how many hours 831 00:43:31,739 --> 00:43:33,088 I put into working for him, 832 00:43:33,132 --> 00:43:35,395 how much of my money I gave to him, 833 00:43:35,438 --> 00:43:36,614 it was very clear 834 00:43:36,657 --> 00:43:38,616 that he didn't care about my well-being. 835 00:43:38,659 --> 00:43:43,055 836 00:43:43,098 --> 00:43:45,753 Then I ran into Alissa's friend Jessica 837 00:43:45,797 --> 00:43:48,495 at a record store here in Phoenix. 838 00:43:48,538 --> 00:43:52,934 And it had been years since we'd spoken. 839 00:43:52,978 --> 00:43:56,895 I was, like, kind of excited to see Jessica. 840 00:43:56,938 --> 00:43:59,941 And Jessica turns to me and says, 841 00:43:59,985 --> 00:44:02,683 "You know your dad killed your sister, right?" 842 00:44:02,727 --> 00:44:05,338 - You know he's guilty. He killed your sister. 843 00:44:05,381 --> 00:44:08,080 And she's like, "No, he didn't." 844 00:44:08,123 --> 00:44:11,910 But I did try to convince her. 845 00:44:11,953 --> 00:44:14,347 I remember being in shock. 846 00:44:14,390 --> 00:44:16,915 I mean, call me naive, but Jessica was the first one 847 00:44:16,958 --> 00:44:18,656 to be extremely blunt with me 848 00:44:18,699 --> 00:44:21,484 and tell me that she thought my dad killed Alissa. 849 00:44:21,528 --> 00:44:23,486 850 00:44:23,530 --> 00:44:26,054 Later on, I turned to my boyfriend, 851 00:44:26,098 --> 00:44:27,490 and I said to him, 852 00:44:27,534 --> 00:44:29,971 "Do you think my dad could have killed my sister?" 853 00:44:30,015 --> 00:44:31,843 And he says, "Sarah, 854 00:44:31,886 --> 00:44:34,236 everyone thinks your dad killed your sister." 855 00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:37,370 That moment was big for me. 856 00:44:37,413 --> 00:44:40,286 It really opened up my mind to the possibility 857 00:44:40,329 --> 00:44:42,767 that my father was not telling the truth 858 00:44:42,810 --> 00:44:45,073 about what happened to Alissa. 859 00:44:45,117 --> 00:44:47,467 I believed my father, 860 00:44:47,510 --> 00:44:51,166 everything he said for a very long time. 861 00:44:51,210 --> 00:44:54,169 But it wasn't until I was alone 862 00:44:54,213 --> 00:44:57,999 and no longer under my father's manipulation 863 00:44:58,043 --> 00:45:00,654 that I began to question everything. 864 00:45:00,698 --> 00:45:03,004 865 00:45:12,100 --> 00:45:14,755 - This is Alissa's case file. It's a lot. 866 00:45:14,799 --> 00:45:17,932 I requested them from the Phoenix Police Department, 867 00:45:17,976 --> 00:45:19,194 and I was sure 868 00:45:19,238 --> 00:45:21,196 that they weren't going to give them to me, 869 00:45:21,240 --> 00:45:23,546 and all of a sudden, somebody came out of the back 870 00:45:23,590 --> 00:45:26,027 with this huge pile of documents. 871 00:45:26,071 --> 00:45:29,030 [soft dramatic music] 872 00:45:29,074 --> 00:45:32,207 873 00:45:32,251 --> 00:45:35,428 There are police interviews in here from 2008 874 00:45:35,471 --> 00:45:37,691 with almost everybody who knew Alissa. 875 00:45:37,735 --> 00:45:40,389 There are transcripts of audiotapes 876 00:45:40,433 --> 00:45:42,174 that I'd never gone through, 877 00:45:42,217 --> 00:45:44,219 transcripts of videotapes. 878 00:45:44,263 --> 00:45:47,570 It's everything I didn't know. 879 00:45:47,614 --> 00:45:50,573 - Pulled over somewhere and tried fooling around with her. 880 00:45:50,617 --> 00:45:52,358 - And it made her really uncomfortable, 881 00:45:52,401 --> 00:45:53,925 and she got out and walked home. 882 00:45:53,968 --> 00:45:56,623 - Alissa said, "My dad tried something with me 883 00:45:56,666 --> 00:45:57,885 of a sexual nature." 884 00:45:57,929 --> 00:45:59,321 And then he threatened 885 00:45:59,365 --> 00:46:00,975 for her basically not to tell anybody. 886 00:46:01,019 --> 00:46:03,630 [phone clatters] 887 00:46:03,673 --> 00:46:07,590 - She did not want to leave Sarah alone with Michael. 888 00:46:07,634 --> 00:46:10,245 - When I read through those files, 889 00:46:10,289 --> 00:46:13,640 I was devastated for Alissa. 890 00:46:13,683 --> 00:46:16,643 I didn't realize that Alissa was abused 891 00:46:16,686 --> 00:46:18,079 and just terrified, 892 00:46:18,123 --> 00:46:19,994 even from a very young age. 893 00:46:20,038 --> 00:46:22,257 894 00:46:22,301 --> 00:46:25,478 I find an interview from 2009 895 00:46:25,521 --> 00:46:28,394 with a woman who was my dad's girlfriend 896 00:46:28,437 --> 00:46:30,265 after our mother died. 897 00:46:30,309 --> 00:46:31,658 - And here we have-- 898 00:46:31,701 --> 00:46:35,053 the little homemaker has made a-a nest. 899 00:46:35,096 --> 00:46:37,620 - Want me to model my skiwear? - All right. 900 00:46:37,664 --> 00:46:39,144 Very nice, very nice. 901 00:46:39,187 --> 00:46:41,102 - She was a teacher at our school, 902 00:46:41,146 --> 00:46:42,625 and I loved her. 903 00:46:42,669 --> 00:46:45,498 I loved her and her kids, and Alissa did, too. 904 00:46:45,541 --> 00:46:49,676 She was the closest thing to a stepmother we ever had. 905 00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:51,809 Supplement 117. 906 00:46:51,852 --> 00:46:53,158 This is the interview 907 00:46:53,201 --> 00:46:55,725 of Alissa's third-grade teacher. 908 00:46:55,769 --> 00:46:58,728 "I asked if she saw anything inappropriate 909 00:46:58,772 --> 00:47:00,252 between Alissa and Mike." 910 00:47:24,537 --> 00:47:27,322 - That statement is problematic, 911 00:47:27,366 --> 00:47:31,500 because you can very quickly make any child retract, 912 00:47:31,544 --> 00:47:35,940 depending on the way that you approach their revelation. 913 00:47:35,983 --> 00:47:39,595 - She attributed the statement as Alissa acting out 914 00:47:39,639 --> 00:47:42,903 and being jealous of her relationship with Mike. 915 00:47:42,947 --> 00:47:47,777 It wasn't what she believed to be a cry for help 916 00:47:47,821 --> 00:47:50,650 or anything other than the little girl 917 00:47:50,693 --> 00:47:52,434 looking for attention. 918 00:47:52,478 --> 00:47:56,177 So she does not report what Alissa told her 919 00:47:56,221 --> 00:48:00,051 to Child Protective Services. 920 00:48:00,094 --> 00:48:02,792 - I can't imagine what it was like for Alissa 921 00:48:02,836 --> 00:48:05,273 to build up all that courage to tell someone 922 00:48:05,317 --> 00:48:08,537 what was going on to just be dismissed. 923 00:48:08,581 --> 00:48:11,366 - Come here-- Alissa, look at me a minute. 924 00:48:11,410 --> 00:48:12,890 Why do you keep doing this, Alissa? 925 00:48:12,933 --> 00:48:14,108 You keep losing. 926 00:48:14,152 --> 00:48:16,154 I don't understand your attitude. 927 00:48:16,197 --> 00:48:18,896 - We were raised to be afraid of everyone 928 00:48:18,939 --> 00:48:20,941 and to not trust anyone. 929 00:48:20,985 --> 00:48:24,640 My father didn't want Alissa to have any friends. 930 00:48:24,684 --> 00:48:27,948 He didn't want her to have any trusted adults in her life 931 00:48:27,992 --> 00:48:29,732 who she could go to. 932 00:48:29,776 --> 00:48:32,779 - Alissa's trying to hit us with a snowball, snoot. 933 00:48:32,822 --> 00:48:34,781 934 00:48:34,824 --> 00:48:37,871 - Learning about the allegations of sexual abuse 935 00:48:37,915 --> 00:48:41,875 really made me reexamine everything I thought I knew. 936 00:48:41,919 --> 00:48:45,923 It was hard to reconcile that with my own memory. 937 00:48:45,966 --> 00:48:48,882 And then one night, I was just reviewing a VHS 938 00:48:48,926 --> 00:48:51,319 like I had done so many nights before, 939 00:48:51,363 --> 00:48:54,148 and it was a camping video from the '90s. 940 00:48:54,192 --> 00:48:57,760 I'm probably 8. Maybe Alissa is 12. 941 00:48:57,804 --> 00:49:00,415 [laughter] 942 00:49:00,459 --> 00:49:03,462 - Oh, God. [laughs] 943 00:49:03,505 --> 00:49:06,334 And then eventually I'm recording, 944 00:49:06,378 --> 00:49:08,989 and my dad tells me to turn off the camera. 945 00:49:09,033 --> 00:49:10,730 - The red button. - Why? 946 00:49:10,773 --> 00:49:13,602 - Hit the red button now. - I don't want to. 947 00:49:13,646 --> 00:49:15,691 How do I record? 948 00:49:15,735 --> 00:49:17,215 - Hit the red button. - Sarah! 949 00:49:17,258 --> 00:49:19,782 - I wanna record me. - Sarah! 950 00:49:19,826 --> 00:49:22,133 Sarah! 951 00:49:24,657 --> 00:49:27,834 - Watching those home videos again made me rethink 952 00:49:27,877 --> 00:49:30,271 what I always thought about my dad. 953 00:49:30,315 --> 00:49:32,360 - Sarah, give me the camera now. 954 00:49:36,321 --> 00:49:39,411 So we have it on tape. Alissa can read. 955 00:49:39,454 --> 00:49:40,803 I'm serious-- I'm getting ready 956 00:49:40,847 --> 00:49:42,283 just to pull you over and spank you. 957 00:49:42,327 --> 00:49:43,589 Now stop it. 958 00:49:43,632 --> 00:49:47,027 Alissa, do not leave the building whatsoever. 959 00:49:47,071 --> 00:49:49,247 Turn off that stupid camera. 960 00:49:49,290 --> 00:49:52,380 - All this time, I thought that he was just that dad 961 00:49:52,424 --> 00:49:54,295 with a video camera taped to his face... 962 00:49:54,339 --> 00:49:56,080 What are you doing? 963 00:49:56,123 --> 00:49:57,864 [speaks gibberish] 964 00:49:57,907 --> 00:50:01,128 - Just trying to capture all of our memories. 965 00:50:01,172 --> 00:50:04,044 - Dad, stop! - Stop what? 966 00:50:04,088 --> 00:50:07,221 - Stop. Please? 967 00:50:07,265 --> 00:50:10,355 - I had no idea how nefarious 968 00:50:10,398 --> 00:50:12,444 it really was. 969 00:50:12,487 --> 00:50:14,359 Dad's a pervert. 970 00:50:14,402 --> 00:50:16,491 - While I thought my dad was basically 971 00:50:16,535 --> 00:50:18,580 a superhero and the best dad ever, 972 00:50:18,624 --> 00:50:21,496 it seems that he was a monster. 973 00:50:29,069 --> 00:50:30,984 [doorbell ringing] 974 00:50:32,507 --> 00:50:35,858 - Hi! - Hi! 975 00:50:35,902 --> 00:50:38,035 - I don't know if you've seen this one. 976 00:50:38,078 --> 00:50:42,126 She's definitely younger, but it's, like, so her. 977 00:50:42,169 --> 00:50:45,042 - Yes! [laughter] 978 00:50:45,085 --> 00:50:47,087 Alissa, stop that racket! 979 00:50:47,131 --> 00:50:48,828 - See? There it is. 980 00:50:48,871 --> 00:50:50,873 - Yeah, you got that. - One more time. Yes. 981 00:50:50,917 --> 00:50:52,962 - The resort buses. - Where is? 982 00:50:53,006 --> 00:50:56,227 - There's one right there. - There it is. 983 00:50:56,270 --> 00:50:59,708 Random-- zooming in on random women, 984 00:50:59,752 --> 00:51:03,843 pretending to film his kids, and then moving on to-- 985 00:51:03,886 --> 00:51:05,540 - Mm-hmm. 986 00:51:05,584 --> 00:51:07,455 Doesn't everything, like, look different 987 00:51:07,499 --> 00:51:09,066 when you look back on it? 988 00:51:10,589 --> 00:51:13,635 Those home videos used to be something 989 00:51:13,679 --> 00:51:16,421 that I loved watching-- full of happy memories. 990 00:51:16,464 --> 00:51:18,640 And now everything I see, 991 00:51:18,684 --> 00:51:21,469 I see in a different light. 992 00:51:21,513 --> 00:51:24,559 [soft dramatic music] 993 00:51:24,603 --> 00:51:27,127 - Sarah would reach out to me and inform me 994 00:51:27,171 --> 00:51:30,565 that she was feeling differently about her father. 995 00:51:30,609 --> 00:51:32,263 I was relieved that-- 996 00:51:32,306 --> 00:51:35,135 that she finally, you know, was seeing some of the things 997 00:51:35,179 --> 00:51:37,659 that many of us were seeing. 998 00:51:37,703 --> 00:51:41,924 And I shared with Sarah how Alissa told me 999 00:51:41,968 --> 00:51:44,927 she did not want to leave Sarah alone with Michael. 1000 00:51:44,971 --> 00:51:49,149 And that's what kept her there, is her love for Sarah. 1001 00:51:49,193 --> 00:51:52,152 [somber music] 1002 00:51:52,196 --> 00:51:53,893 1003 00:51:53,936 --> 00:51:56,635 - Honestly, that was one of the hardest things 1004 00:51:56,678 --> 00:51:58,550 for me to realize. 1005 00:51:58,593 --> 00:52:01,074 Alissa wanted to leave 1006 00:52:01,118 --> 00:52:05,513 and refused to leave me behind with our father. 1007 00:52:05,557 --> 00:52:07,602 As an adult, I can realize 1008 00:52:07,646 --> 00:52:10,170 the pressure that she was under and... 1009 00:52:10,214 --> 00:52:14,740 that all those sister fights that we had... 1010 00:52:14,783 --> 00:52:18,047 were nothing in comparison to what she went through. 1011 00:52:18,091 --> 00:52:22,051 [voice breaking] It also still makes me feel extreme guilt 1012 00:52:22,095 --> 00:52:26,447 that she felt she had to stay and be abused to protect me. 1013 00:52:26,491 --> 00:52:33,628 1014 00:52:35,021 --> 00:52:38,546 There were so many things that I never knew about, 1015 00:52:38,590 --> 00:52:42,594 like my father creating contracts. 1016 00:52:42,637 --> 00:52:44,552 - He would have her sign contracts, 1017 00:52:44,596 --> 00:52:46,728 which he requires her to state 1018 00:52:46,772 --> 00:52:49,862 that there was no sexual abuse. 1019 00:52:49,905 --> 00:52:54,214 He would tell her things to discredit her 1020 00:52:54,258 --> 00:52:58,218 in the event that she might come forth saying them. 1021 00:52:58,262 --> 00:53:01,395 This is a legal document 1022 00:53:01,439 --> 00:53:03,180 in which Alissa Turney 1023 00:53:03,223 --> 00:53:06,444 is made to initial every bullet point, 1024 00:53:06,487 --> 00:53:09,360 saying she had not been physically or sexually abused, 1025 00:53:09,403 --> 00:53:12,624 but she had to do that in front of a notary public. 1026 00:53:12,667 --> 00:53:14,800 That is the level 1027 00:53:14,843 --> 00:53:18,499 that Michael has taken that relationship to... 1028 00:53:18,543 --> 00:53:22,199 holding that legal document over that child's head 1029 00:53:22,242 --> 00:53:25,245 so that she cannot make any sort of accusation. 1030 00:53:25,289 --> 00:53:29,771 We also found that Michael himself had contacted 1031 00:53:29,815 --> 00:53:31,991 Child Protective Services, 1032 00:53:32,034 --> 00:53:36,256 stating that if this child, Alissa Turney, 1033 00:53:36,300 --> 00:53:38,127 accuses me of molesting her, 1034 00:53:38,171 --> 00:53:40,695 accuses me of doing anything inappropriate, 1035 00:53:40,739 --> 00:53:42,262 you shouldn't believe that. 1036 00:53:42,306 --> 00:53:44,438 She's trying to extort me. 1037 00:53:44,482 --> 00:53:46,223 Just taking pictures. 1038 00:53:46,266 --> 00:53:49,313 - I think my dad was terrified that Alissa 1039 00:53:49,356 --> 00:53:53,012 was going to come out about the sexual-abuse allegations. 1040 00:53:53,055 --> 00:53:56,145 And once he was no longer able to control her, 1041 00:53:56,189 --> 00:53:59,192 it's very clear that he was panicking. 1042 00:54:03,283 --> 00:54:05,285 - Not long before Alissa goes missing, 1043 00:54:05,329 --> 00:54:08,767 my dad calls my brother Mike to complain about Alissa. 1044 00:54:43,062 --> 00:54:45,847 - It's clear that my father was extremely angry 1045 00:54:45,891 --> 00:54:48,285 with Alissa before Alissa went missing. 1046 00:54:48,328 --> 00:54:50,896 [ominous music] 1047 00:54:50,939 --> 00:54:53,768 And my entire life, my father had always talked 1048 00:54:53,812 --> 00:54:57,076 about how he could kill someone and hide a body. 1049 00:54:57,119 --> 00:54:59,208 1050 00:54:59,252 --> 00:55:01,080 I mean, he had an entire manifesto 1051 00:55:01,123 --> 00:55:03,169 about how he was going to kill people. 1052 00:55:03,212 --> 00:55:05,345 1053 00:55:05,389 --> 00:55:07,521 So I can absolutely see my dad 1054 00:55:07,565 --> 00:55:09,393 being that violent towards anyone. 1055 00:55:09,436 --> 00:55:13,484 1056 00:55:13,527 --> 00:55:16,835 My theory is that on the day Alissa went missing, 1057 00:55:16,878 --> 00:55:19,359 my father picked Alissa up from school, 1058 00:55:19,403 --> 00:55:20,926 took her out into the desert, 1059 00:55:20,969 --> 00:55:24,495 which makes it harder to find her. 1060 00:55:24,538 --> 00:55:26,975 I think he tried what he had tried before in the past, 1061 00:55:27,019 --> 00:55:28,934 according to Alissa. 1062 00:55:28,977 --> 00:55:31,893 Perhaps she fought back, something went wrong, 1063 00:55:31,937 --> 00:55:33,939 and he decided that today was the day 1064 00:55:33,982 --> 00:55:35,810 he was going to kill her. 1065 00:55:35,854 --> 00:55:39,379 1066 00:55:39,423 --> 00:55:42,339 I believe that the last day of school was picked on purpose. 1067 00:55:42,382 --> 00:55:45,559 That way, no one would ask about where she was. 1068 00:55:45,603 --> 00:55:48,562 I don't know if he actually brought her home that day. 1069 00:55:48,606 --> 00:55:51,086 And, of course, we don't have any video surveillance 1070 00:55:51,130 --> 00:55:53,480 to tell us one way or the other. 1071 00:55:53,524 --> 00:55:55,003 And as I got older, 1072 00:55:55,047 --> 00:55:57,092 I had a lot of questions about that runaway note. 1073 00:55:57,136 --> 00:55:59,007 That first line, "Dad and Sarah, 1074 00:55:59,051 --> 00:56:00,966 when you dropped me off at school today"... 1075 00:56:01,009 --> 00:56:03,447 I wasn't there to drop Alissa off at school that day. 1076 00:56:03,490 --> 00:56:05,405 1077 00:56:05,449 --> 00:56:08,974 Also, the "Dad, I took $300 from you," 1078 00:56:09,017 --> 00:56:10,758 that was an incident that happened 1079 00:56:10,802 --> 00:56:12,369 before Alissa went missing, 1080 00:56:12,412 --> 00:56:15,633 and that money was actually returned to our father. 1081 00:56:15,676 --> 00:56:19,550 I believe that note was from a previous time period, 1082 00:56:19,593 --> 00:56:23,292 and then my father found it and planted it in her room. 1083 00:56:23,336 --> 00:56:26,339 1084 00:56:26,383 --> 00:56:27,993 [phone ringing] 1085 00:56:28,036 --> 00:56:30,865 And that phone call from Riverside, California, 1086 00:56:30,909 --> 00:56:34,739 just further solidified the runaway idea. 1087 00:56:34,782 --> 00:56:36,958 I don't believe Alissa made that call. 1088 00:56:37,002 --> 00:56:39,831 I think he used it as an alibi. 1089 00:56:39,874 --> 00:56:43,835 My dad knows what he's doing. He's former law enforcement. 1090 00:56:43,878 --> 00:56:45,750 He knows how to cover his tracks, 1091 00:56:45,793 --> 00:56:48,579 and he did it very well. 1092 00:56:48,622 --> 00:56:51,233 It's a long, painful process to try to turn your heart off 1093 00:56:51,277 --> 00:56:54,454 to someone who you looked up to so heavily. 1094 00:56:54,498 --> 00:56:57,588 But the second I put those pieces together, 1095 00:56:57,631 --> 00:56:59,851 it all made sense. 1096 00:56:59,894 --> 00:57:02,636 My dad would try to call from prison, 1097 00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:04,464 and I just stopped answering. 1098 00:57:04,508 --> 00:57:08,294 I slowly just cut that relationship off. 1099 00:57:12,777 --> 00:57:16,911 Once I was convinced that my father killed my sister, 1100 00:57:16,955 --> 00:57:19,479 I went to the police and said, "Hey, 1101 00:57:19,523 --> 00:57:22,656 "I see what you've been trying to tell me for all these years. 1102 00:57:22,700 --> 00:57:24,092 What can I do to help?" 1103 00:57:24,136 --> 00:57:27,052 [soft dramatic music] 1104 00:57:27,095 --> 00:57:30,969 - Sarah explains her change of heart now. 1105 00:57:31,012 --> 00:57:33,188 She's very open and very adamant 1106 00:57:33,232 --> 00:57:37,062 about his responsibility for Alissa's death. 1107 00:57:37,105 --> 00:57:39,151 But at this point in time, 1108 00:57:39,194 --> 00:57:42,415 we've contacted hundreds of people. 1109 00:57:42,459 --> 00:57:45,940 Anybody that could have possibly known Alissa 1110 00:57:45,984 --> 00:57:47,768 has been talked to. 1111 00:57:47,812 --> 00:57:50,336 We went to the point of exhaustion. 1112 00:57:50,379 --> 00:57:52,381 1113 00:57:52,425 --> 00:57:56,821 My investigation has to thrive or die 1114 00:57:56,864 --> 00:57:59,519 based on what details 1115 00:57:59,563 --> 00:58:02,217 and what facts I can bring up 1116 00:58:02,261 --> 00:58:06,265 that cement Mike Turney as the suspect. 1117 00:58:06,308 --> 00:58:08,528 1118 00:58:08,572 --> 00:58:12,706 The circumstantial evidence that we have is damaging, 1119 00:58:12,750 --> 00:58:17,537 but there's nothing physical that shows Alissa died. 1120 00:58:17,581 --> 00:58:21,280 You're lacking a body, and you're lacking a crime scene. 1121 00:58:50,788 --> 00:58:52,485 Now that I understood 1122 00:58:52,529 --> 00:58:55,314 the full story of Alissa's case, 1123 00:58:55,357 --> 00:58:58,273 I did not understand how this was not enough 1124 00:58:58,317 --> 00:59:01,276 to arrest my father for Alissa's murder, 1125 00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:03,714 how it wasn't enough to arrest him for anything, 1126 00:59:03,757 --> 00:59:05,933 for any charges. 1127 00:59:05,977 --> 00:59:08,588 They had the means, motive, and opportunity. 1128 00:59:08,632 --> 00:59:13,593 1129 00:59:13,637 --> 00:59:16,465 My father got out of prison in 2017, 1130 00:59:16,509 --> 00:59:18,729 and it had been about three or four years 1131 00:59:18,772 --> 00:59:20,208 since we'd spoken. 1132 00:59:22,036 --> 00:59:24,735 I wanted to confront him and let him know, 1133 00:59:24,778 --> 00:59:26,301 I know that you're lying, 1134 00:59:26,345 --> 00:59:28,913 and I'm not going to let this go, 1135 00:59:28,956 --> 00:59:31,219 and I want you to look me in the eye 1136 00:59:31,263 --> 00:59:34,571 and tell me the truth of what happened to Alissa. 1137 00:59:40,098 --> 00:59:42,840 [tense music] 1138 00:59:42,883 --> 00:59:46,191 1139 00:59:46,234 --> 00:59:49,063 - My dad served about nine years in prison 1140 00:59:49,107 --> 00:59:52,371 before he got out on the bomb charges. 1141 00:59:52,414 --> 00:59:54,373 I asked him to meet with me 1142 00:59:54,416 --> 00:59:57,376 at a coffee shop in downtown Phoenix. 1143 00:59:57,419 --> 00:59:59,552 I thought that this would be my one chance 1144 00:59:59,596 --> 01:00:01,510 to maybe get answers out of him, 1145 01:00:01,554 --> 01:00:03,512 that he might just be spiteful enough 1146 01:00:03,556 --> 01:00:07,342 to get caught in something that could get him arrested. 1147 01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:11,259 And to be honest, I was nervous. 1148 01:00:11,303 --> 01:00:14,262 I had no idea what was going to happen. 1149 01:00:24,621 --> 01:00:27,493 I turned on the voice memo on my phone 1150 01:00:27,536 --> 01:00:29,451 because I wanted to give it to the police. 1151 01:00:29,495 --> 01:00:31,410 At this point, my father had never sat down 1152 01:00:31,453 --> 01:00:32,977 for a formal interview with them, 1153 01:00:33,020 --> 01:00:36,284 and this seemed like the best opportunity to get answers. 1154 01:01:02,746 --> 01:01:04,704 - He kind of asked me to get to the point, 1155 01:01:04,748 --> 01:01:06,706 and I said I wanted to say to his face 1156 01:01:06,750 --> 01:01:08,752 that I thought that he killed Alissa, 1157 01:01:08,795 --> 01:01:10,318 and I wanted answers. 1158 01:01:40,827 --> 01:01:43,482 - That is the closest thing to a confession 1159 01:01:43,525 --> 01:01:46,528 that I believe we'll ever get from my father. 1160 01:01:46,572 --> 01:01:48,835 And, honestly, 1161 01:01:48,879 --> 01:01:51,969 him saying that to my face, 1162 01:01:52,012 --> 01:01:54,275 "Come to the deathbed," that was it. 1163 01:01:54,319 --> 01:01:57,975 That's when I knew Alissa wasn't out there 1164 01:01:58,018 --> 01:01:59,498 and she wasn't coming back. 1165 01:01:59,541 --> 01:02:01,805 - Be there at the deathbed, Sarah, 1166 01:02:01,848 --> 01:02:03,371 and I'll give you all the... 1167 01:02:03,415 --> 01:02:06,070 - Sarah turned over that recording to law enforcement, 1168 01:02:06,113 --> 01:02:08,507 and she said things like, "You know, look, 1169 01:02:08,550 --> 01:02:13,033 here, he says he'll tell me the truth on the deathbed." 1170 01:02:13,077 --> 01:02:16,776 I can't take snippets of a conversation. 1171 01:02:16,820 --> 01:02:19,083 The very next sentence is, 1172 01:02:19,126 --> 01:02:22,129 "But it's going to be the same as what I'm telling you now." 1173 01:02:36,883 --> 01:02:40,191 [Michael laughing] 1174 01:02:43,063 --> 01:02:45,022 - I have to look at the totality 1175 01:02:45,065 --> 01:02:46,545 of that conversation, 1176 01:02:46,588 --> 01:02:48,808 and the totality of the conversation was, 1177 01:02:48,852 --> 01:02:50,592 I'm not responsible. 1178 01:02:50,636 --> 01:02:53,508 You've been lied to. The police are corrupt. 1179 01:02:53,552 --> 01:02:56,076 The police are lying to you. 1180 01:02:56,120 --> 01:02:58,600 It's not a confession to a homicide. 1181 01:03:00,341 --> 01:03:02,561 I think it is just 1182 01:03:02,604 --> 01:03:06,304 an exceptionally cruel thing to say. 1183 01:03:06,347 --> 01:03:08,567 To me, that is the crescendo 1184 01:03:08,610 --> 01:03:13,398 of the manipulative behavioral control. 1185 01:03:13,441 --> 01:03:15,226 If you want to know, 1186 01:03:15,269 --> 01:03:17,837 then you need to be there when I die. 1187 01:03:17,881 --> 01:03:19,621 Like, the ultimate going out 1188 01:03:19,665 --> 01:03:23,582 with control over somebody else. 1189 01:03:23,625 --> 01:03:27,151 - After the police told me that my dad's statement 1190 01:03:27,194 --> 01:03:29,893 about the deathbed confession wasn't good enough, 1191 01:03:29,936 --> 01:03:32,069 I was devastated. 1192 01:03:32,112 --> 01:03:34,593 I said to them, "What are we doing going forward? 1193 01:03:34,636 --> 01:03:36,377 How are we going to press charges?" 1194 01:03:36,421 --> 01:03:39,772 And they basically said, "We don't have enough. Sorry. 1195 01:03:39,816 --> 01:03:42,340 Your best chance is getting media exposure." 1196 01:03:49,173 --> 01:03:50,522 My name is Sarah Turney. 1197 01:03:50,565 --> 01:03:53,438 This is "Voices for Justice." 1198 01:03:53,481 --> 01:03:55,440 In this episode, we are discussing my father... 1199 01:03:55,483 --> 01:03:57,398 I was determined. 1200 01:03:57,442 --> 01:03:59,531 I reached out to every single person 1201 01:03:59,574 --> 01:04:02,360 that I knew knew Alissa and asked them to be involved. 1202 01:04:17,288 --> 01:04:18,811 My dad did? 1203 01:04:20,334 --> 01:04:21,901 - When I was conducting these interviews 1204 01:04:21,945 --> 01:04:23,947 with family members, I was getting the complete context 1205 01:04:23,990 --> 01:04:25,644 behind these police reports. 1206 01:04:25,687 --> 01:04:28,168 I was learning the full story of everything, 1207 01:04:28,212 --> 01:04:30,692 and some of those stories were horrific. 1208 01:04:46,317 --> 01:04:48,145 - I just want to thank everybody for being here. 1209 01:04:48,188 --> 01:04:51,017 I was really hopeful that my brothers would interview 1210 01:04:51,061 --> 01:04:52,932 for my podcast, 1211 01:04:52,976 --> 01:04:57,284 but they were not interested in coming on the podcast. 1212 01:04:57,328 --> 01:04:59,460 I think they all have their reasons. 1213 01:04:59,504 --> 01:05:01,375 There's four brothers, 1214 01:05:01,419 --> 01:05:03,508 and they're all different individuals 1215 01:05:03,551 --> 01:05:06,815 who have their own trauma. 1216 01:05:06,859 --> 01:05:09,731 There was some frustration that I was tarnishing 1217 01:05:09,775 --> 01:05:10,994 the family name. 1218 01:05:11,037 --> 01:05:15,520 1219 01:05:15,563 --> 01:05:18,436 And, eventually, I was no longer invited 1220 01:05:18,479 --> 01:05:20,873 to family functions, birthdays, holidays. 1221 01:05:20,917 --> 01:05:23,006 I was outcast from them. 1222 01:05:23,049 --> 01:05:27,227 That's when I realized that it was all on me. 1223 01:05:27,271 --> 01:05:29,403 I was doing my podcast, 1224 01:05:29,447 --> 01:05:31,492 but people weren't paying enough attention 1225 01:05:31,536 --> 01:05:33,364 to Alissa's case. 1226 01:05:33,407 --> 01:05:35,627 And then I saw TikTok. 1227 01:05:37,759 --> 01:05:40,458 It's not easy being the disappointment of the family, 1228 01:05:40,501 --> 01:05:43,809 but someone had to do it, so here the [bleep] I am. 1229 01:05:43,852 --> 01:05:48,074 Press "publish," and basically overnight, 1230 01:05:48,118 --> 01:05:50,076 it just went viral. 1231 01:05:50,120 --> 01:05:53,036 [soft dramatic music] 1232 01:05:53,079 --> 01:05:55,560 Then I made another video and another video, 1233 01:05:55,603 --> 01:05:57,475 and I just kept going viral. 1234 01:05:57,518 --> 01:05:59,651 1235 01:06:02,567 --> 01:06:04,612 And you're still recording. 1236 01:06:04,656 --> 01:06:05,874 1 million views, 1237 01:06:05,918 --> 01:06:07,267 2 million views, 1238 01:06:07,311 --> 01:06:10,575 up to 20 million views. 1239 01:06:10,618 --> 01:06:12,751 They wanted to take action. 1240 01:06:12,794 --> 01:06:16,624 They wanted to help get justice for Alissa. 1241 01:06:16,668 --> 01:06:19,018 One of my followers made a campaign 1242 01:06:19,062 --> 01:06:21,978 called The 12 Days of Alissa. 1243 01:06:22,021 --> 01:06:24,545 Every day was an action item, and one of those days 1244 01:06:24,589 --> 01:06:27,287 was Call the Maricopa County Attorney's Office, 1245 01:06:27,331 --> 01:06:29,376 asking them to arrest my father 1246 01:06:29,420 --> 01:06:30,987 for Alissa's murder. 1247 01:06:33,119 --> 01:06:36,601 I remember I was driving home from work. 1248 01:06:36,644 --> 01:06:38,603 I called the county attorney's office, 1249 01:06:38,646 --> 01:06:41,345 and they said, "You're the sister? 1250 01:06:41,388 --> 01:06:43,782 We've been getting calls all day." 1251 01:06:45,349 --> 01:06:48,526 People were pissed. 1252 01:06:48,569 --> 01:06:51,529 I didn't know what was going to happen. 1253 01:06:53,313 --> 01:06:55,750 And then on August 20, 2020, 1254 01:06:55,794 --> 01:06:57,100 I get a phone call... 1255 01:06:57,143 --> 01:06:59,841 [phone ringing] And that changed everything. 1256 01:07:01,930 --> 01:07:04,063 - Hey, guys, I don't know if you've heard. 1257 01:07:04,107 --> 01:07:06,152 I got a call about an hour ago now, 1258 01:07:06,196 --> 01:07:07,849 maybe less than that. 1259 01:07:07,893 --> 01:07:10,200 [breathes deeply] My father's been arrested 1260 01:07:10,243 --> 01:07:12,071 for Alissa's murder. 1261 01:07:14,943 --> 01:07:18,034 I couldn't have done this without you guys caring so much 1262 01:07:18,077 --> 01:07:19,513 and sharing her story 1263 01:07:19,557 --> 01:07:23,082 and just making this a priority for the media. 1264 01:07:23,126 --> 01:07:25,084 - Just a bombshell arrest tonight. 1265 01:07:25,128 --> 01:07:28,174 Almost 20 years after Phoenix teen Alissa-- 1266 01:07:28,218 --> 01:07:30,611 - Alissa's stepfather has really been the only person 1267 01:07:30,655 --> 01:07:32,048 of interest in her disappearance 1268 01:07:32,091 --> 01:07:34,615 for at least the last ten years. 1269 01:07:34,659 --> 01:07:37,053 - It's absolutely horrible to hear that your father 1270 01:07:37,096 --> 01:07:39,751 is being arrested for the murder of your sister, 1271 01:07:39,794 --> 01:07:42,188 but at the same time, all this hard work, 1272 01:07:42,232 --> 01:07:45,670 giving up so much of my life for this fight 1273 01:07:45,713 --> 01:07:48,020 was the right thing to do. 1274 01:07:48,064 --> 01:07:49,021 To Alissa's sister, 1275 01:07:49,065 --> 01:07:51,154 your perseverance and commitment 1276 01:07:51,197 --> 01:07:54,113 to finding justice for your sister, Alissa, 1277 01:07:54,157 --> 01:07:58,552 is a testament to the love of a sister. 1278 01:07:58,596 --> 01:08:01,816 - Just felt such relief for Sarah. 1279 01:08:01,860 --> 01:08:04,732 This was the first step in her getting her life back. 1280 01:08:04,776 --> 01:08:08,214 - I couldn't believe that it was finally happening. 1281 01:08:08,258 --> 01:08:10,912 - I was looking forward to looking the man in his eye. 1282 01:08:10,956 --> 01:08:13,132 I was looking forward to that day 1283 01:08:13,176 --> 01:08:14,960 that we would be sitting there 1284 01:08:15,003 --> 01:08:18,006 and he would finally be answering for this. 1285 01:08:20,270 --> 01:08:23,273 [dramatic music] 1286 01:08:23,316 --> 01:08:24,839 More than 20 years 1287 01:08:24,883 --> 01:08:27,407 after 17-year-old Alissa Turney disappeared, 1288 01:08:27,451 --> 01:08:29,583 her stepfather is now on trial, 1289 01:08:29,627 --> 01:08:31,107 accused of her murder. 1290 01:08:31,150 --> 01:08:34,414 - Michael Turney, who is now 75 years old, 1291 01:08:34,458 --> 01:08:36,634 arrived in court in a wheelchair. 1292 01:08:36,677 --> 01:08:37,939 When the trial started, 1293 01:08:37,983 --> 01:08:39,854 I was getting more and more nervous, 1294 01:08:39,898 --> 01:08:41,552 but I was really hopeful 1295 01:08:41,595 --> 01:08:44,381 that we would finally get justice for Alissa. 1296 01:08:44,424 --> 01:08:45,947 This was Alissa. 1297 01:08:45,991 --> 01:08:48,733 The relationship she had with this defendant 1298 01:08:48,776 --> 01:08:51,953 was oftentimes troubled. 1299 01:08:51,997 --> 01:08:54,478 - The state had a really heavy burden, 1300 01:08:54,521 --> 01:08:56,784 because there's no body. 1301 01:08:56,828 --> 01:08:58,873 There's no murder scene. There's no murder weapon. 1302 01:08:58,917 --> 01:09:00,919 There were no witnesses to Alissa's murder. 1303 01:09:00,962 --> 01:09:03,661 - You will find that the state's entire case 1304 01:09:03,704 --> 01:09:06,185 is based on circumstantial evidence, 1305 01:09:06,229 --> 01:09:09,797 based on speculation, based on belief. 1306 01:09:09,841 --> 01:09:11,451 There's no evidence. 1307 01:09:11,495 --> 01:09:14,889 - Beyond that, a whole bunch of the evidence 1308 01:09:14,933 --> 01:09:18,632 that friends of Alissa and Sarah wanted to bring in 1309 01:09:18,676 --> 01:09:20,199 was excluded from the start. 1310 01:09:20,243 --> 01:09:22,984 - Defense has filed a motion to preclude 1311 01:09:23,028 --> 01:09:26,292 any further mention of sexual abuse and molest. 1312 01:09:26,336 --> 01:09:28,903 I was not allowed to talk 1313 01:09:28,947 --> 01:09:32,733 about any of the sexual-abuse allegations, 1314 01:09:32,777 --> 01:09:35,997 and I asked why I was even there. 1315 01:09:36,041 --> 01:09:39,914 - The prosecution could not talk about things 1316 01:09:39,958 --> 01:09:43,657 that Alissa accused Mike of because Alissa is not here 1317 01:09:43,701 --> 01:09:46,486 and Mike has the right to face his accuser. 1318 01:09:46,530 --> 01:09:48,662 It's the Constitution. 1319 01:09:48,706 --> 01:09:51,970 Also, the nature of that accusation 1320 01:09:52,013 --> 01:09:55,191 is so damaging that you run the risk 1321 01:09:55,234 --> 01:09:57,584 of him being found guilty of a homicide 1322 01:09:57,628 --> 01:10:02,198 because people are mad at him for having molested the kid. 1323 01:10:02,241 --> 01:10:04,330 - The prosecution being unable to talk 1324 01:10:04,374 --> 01:10:06,027 about the sexual molestation 1325 01:10:06,071 --> 01:10:08,073 really made it difficult to explain 1326 01:10:08,116 --> 01:10:10,336 why Michael Turney may have murdered his daughter. 1327 01:10:10,380 --> 01:10:13,165 It made it much easier for the defense 1328 01:10:13,209 --> 01:10:15,689 to claim that Alissa was just an unruly teenager 1329 01:10:15,733 --> 01:10:17,996 who put herself and others in danger. 1330 01:10:18,039 --> 01:10:20,085 Alissa was a free spirit. 1331 01:10:20,128 --> 01:10:23,262 She liked to have fun. She liked to party. 1332 01:10:23,306 --> 01:10:26,004 She would drink. She would smoke marijuana. 1333 01:10:26,047 --> 01:10:28,049 She thought she was old enough and could do what she wanted. 1334 01:10:28,093 --> 01:10:29,790 The rules didn't apply to her. 1335 01:10:29,834 --> 01:10:32,880 - The defense tried to create a story of her being 1336 01:10:32,924 --> 01:10:36,014 some crazy teen who must have, you know, 1337 01:10:36,057 --> 01:10:38,103 got herself into some big trouble 1338 01:10:38,146 --> 01:10:40,105 and that's the cause of all this. 1339 01:10:40,148 --> 01:10:42,890 - You told Detective Andersen that she would get into cars 1340 01:10:42,934 --> 01:10:44,152 with strangers to go to parties, 1341 01:10:44,196 --> 01:10:46,372 even though her friends didn't want to. 1342 01:10:46,416 --> 01:10:48,722 That's what I was told, yes. 1343 01:10:48,766 --> 01:10:50,768 Everything the defense presented, 1344 01:10:50,811 --> 01:10:52,552 in terms of my thoughts and feelings, 1345 01:10:52,596 --> 01:10:55,425 came from basically that interview with police 1346 01:10:55,468 --> 01:10:57,253 when I was about 19 years old. 1347 01:11:02,345 --> 01:11:05,261 That interview is based off of memories I had when I was 12. 1348 01:11:05,304 --> 01:11:08,264 I was never re-interviewed by police officially after that, 1349 01:11:08,307 --> 01:11:10,962 so that was all used against me. 1350 01:11:11,005 --> 01:11:13,834 They did the same thing to every single witness. 1351 01:11:13,878 --> 01:11:15,967 - My understanding is that you also told 1352 01:11:16,010 --> 01:11:18,012 Detective Andersen she could be mischievous? 1353 01:11:18,056 --> 01:11:19,753 You told him she was boy-crazy? 1354 01:11:19,797 --> 01:11:22,713 - I think that every 16-, 17-year-old girl 1355 01:11:22,756 --> 01:11:24,192 is a little boy-crazy. 1356 01:11:24,236 --> 01:11:26,151 - You said she was open sexually. 1357 01:11:26,194 --> 01:11:29,415 You said, she wasn't quiet about it, that's for sure. 1358 01:11:29,459 --> 01:11:31,025 No. 1359 01:11:31,069 --> 01:11:33,245 - She was stubborn, confrontational. 1360 01:11:33,289 --> 01:11:36,161 You said she was the most difficult of your six siblings. 1361 01:11:36,204 --> 01:11:37,815 Yes. 1362 01:11:37,858 --> 01:11:41,079 - They were trying to make it seem 1363 01:11:41,122 --> 01:11:43,603 like she deserved it. 1364 01:11:43,647 --> 01:11:46,606 As if there's ever a situation 1365 01:11:46,650 --> 01:11:49,783 where a teenage girl deserves 1366 01:11:49,827 --> 01:11:52,351 to not only be murdered 1367 01:11:52,395 --> 01:11:56,355 but completely vanish off the planet. 1368 01:11:56,399 --> 01:11:59,140 - They knew exactly what they were doing. 1369 01:11:59,184 --> 01:12:02,448 That is the handbook on how to victim-blame a child 1370 01:12:02,492 --> 01:12:04,015 who was abused. 1371 01:12:04,058 --> 01:12:06,452 As the trial went on, 1372 01:12:06,496 --> 01:12:09,499 I think I got more and more nervous. 1373 01:12:09,542 --> 01:12:12,328 Shocking, to say the least. 1374 01:12:12,371 --> 01:12:13,677 Never happened. 1375 01:12:13,720 --> 01:12:16,462 Never, ever, ever, ever happened, 1376 01:12:16,506 --> 01:12:18,334 and then this happens today. 1377 01:12:21,380 --> 01:12:23,817 - We are back on the record in State v. Turney. 1378 01:12:23,861 --> 01:12:25,602 How would the state like to proceed? 1379 01:12:25,645 --> 01:12:28,256 - At this time, Your Honor, the state rests. 1380 01:12:28,300 --> 01:12:30,389 - In the State of Arizona, the defense 1381 01:12:30,433 --> 01:12:33,392 has a right to ask the judge to determine 1382 01:12:33,436 --> 01:12:36,395 that the state hasn't provided enough evidence 1383 01:12:36,439 --> 01:12:40,138 to allow a jury to reach the reasonable conclusion 1384 01:12:40,181 --> 01:12:43,228 that this person is guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. 1385 01:12:43,271 --> 01:12:45,404 Judge, pursuant to Rule 20, 1386 01:12:45,448 --> 01:12:47,754 the court must enter a judgment of acquittal 1387 01:12:47,798 --> 01:12:49,713 if there is not substantial evidence 1388 01:12:49,756 --> 01:12:52,237 to support a conviction. 1389 01:12:52,280 --> 01:12:56,459 - Rule 20 motions for judgment are almost never granted. 1390 01:12:56,502 --> 01:13:01,159 It's incredibly rare for judges to not allow jurors to decide. 1391 01:13:25,488 --> 01:13:27,620 I was in shock. 1392 01:13:27,664 --> 01:13:29,274 It was heartbreaking. 1393 01:13:29,317 --> 01:13:31,972 What happened in that trial is not the truth 1394 01:13:32,016 --> 01:13:34,758 of what happened to Alissa or her life. 1395 01:13:34,801 --> 01:13:38,588 I feel like the trial was just a part of the pattern. 1396 01:13:38,631 --> 01:13:42,766 Alissa's been failed by almost every adult in her life, 1397 01:13:42,809 --> 01:13:44,681 every institution. 1398 01:13:44,724 --> 01:13:47,771 Her schools, the Phoenix Police Department, 1399 01:13:47,814 --> 01:13:52,471 the County Attorney's Office, everyone failed Alissa. 1400 01:13:52,515 --> 01:13:55,866 - An acquittal wasn't even something 1401 01:13:55,909 --> 01:13:59,217 that occurred to me was an option. 1402 01:13:59,260 --> 01:14:01,915 So it's just paralyzing... 1403 01:14:01,959 --> 01:14:04,309 to know that that's it. 1404 01:14:04,352 --> 01:14:07,138 - Bombshell ruling from the judge. 1405 01:14:07,181 --> 01:14:09,140 And the question is whether or not 1406 01:14:09,183 --> 01:14:11,011 he could be tried again for this. 1407 01:14:11,055 --> 01:14:13,797 The answer is no. Jeopardy attaches. 1408 01:14:13,840 --> 01:14:16,147 He cannot be tried on this particular charge 1409 01:14:16,190 --> 01:14:18,192 of second-degree murder again. 1410 01:14:18,236 --> 01:14:21,369 - In theory, if new evidence were found-- 1411 01:14:21,413 --> 01:14:23,894 Alissa's body, for example, 1412 01:14:23,937 --> 01:14:26,157 he could be charged with other crimes. 1413 01:14:26,200 --> 01:14:28,507 But, unfortunately, Sarah's options 1414 01:14:28,551 --> 01:14:30,248 are really limited. 1415 01:14:30,291 --> 01:14:32,642 Michael Turney is highly likely to be a free man 1416 01:14:32,685 --> 01:14:34,774 for the rest of his life. 1417 01:14:34,818 --> 01:14:41,041 1418 01:14:41,085 --> 01:14:44,175 - The acquittal has given him power 1419 01:14:44,218 --> 01:14:46,046 to say, "Look, I'm innocent," 1420 01:14:46,090 --> 01:14:49,876 when that's not what the acquittal means. 1421 01:14:49,920 --> 01:14:51,356 The acquittal means 1422 01:14:51,399 --> 01:14:53,445 that the state did not present their case. 1423 01:15:04,325 --> 01:15:05,936 It's been about five years 1424 01:15:05,979 --> 01:15:08,112 since I've spoken to my father, 1425 01:15:08,155 --> 01:15:10,854 and he was never fully questioned 1426 01:15:10,897 --> 01:15:14,205 by any authority ever. 1427 01:15:14,248 --> 01:15:17,513 I just want one last shot to ask him about Alissa. 1428 01:15:20,428 --> 01:15:22,866 Sorry, it's like, the moment of truth, right? 1429 01:15:22,909 --> 01:15:24,476 [line trilling] 1430 01:15:24,520 --> 01:15:26,434 I absolutely still have hope for Alissa's case. 1431 01:15:26,478 --> 01:15:28,436 Her remains have never been found, 1432 01:15:28,480 --> 01:15:32,005 so I need to set up this meeting with him. 1433 01:15:33,877 --> 01:15:36,096 Yeah, hey, it's Sarah. 1434 01:15:38,359 --> 01:15:42,407 - Well, I'm filming a documentary about Alissa, 1435 01:15:42,450 --> 01:15:44,714 and I was wondering if you wanted to talk. 1436 01:15:44,757 --> 01:15:46,629 [sighs] 1437 01:15:55,028 --> 01:15:57,204 Yeah, I guess. 1438 01:16:00,947 --> 01:16:03,036 Well, actually, I'm wondering 1439 01:16:03,080 --> 01:16:05,212 if you wanted to, like, do it in person. 1440 01:16:07,824 --> 01:16:10,566 - It'll just be me and you and the production crew, 1441 01:16:10,609 --> 01:16:12,524 and they have, like, a security guard, 1442 01:16:12,568 --> 01:16:15,048 which means they have to make sure 1443 01:16:15,092 --> 01:16:16,833 that you don't have any weapons on you, 1444 01:16:16,876 --> 01:16:19,009 and they have to make sure I don't have any weapons on me. 1445 01:16:19,052 --> 01:16:20,532 [laughs] 1446 01:16:32,718 --> 01:16:35,373 - I don't know. I'll have to think about that. 1447 01:16:40,204 --> 01:16:41,945 - What I'm asking from you is honesty. 1448 01:16:41,988 --> 01:16:43,294 So, if you want a hug from me, 1449 01:16:43,337 --> 01:16:45,165 if you want me to shake your hand, 1450 01:16:45,209 --> 01:16:46,950 then let's sit down and have a real talk. 1451 01:16:46,993 --> 01:16:48,473 You already got acquitted, Dad. 1452 01:16:48,516 --> 01:16:50,693 There's nothing left for you to lose. 1453 01:16:50,736 --> 01:16:54,566 Give me some peace in my life and give me some answers. 1454 01:17:04,707 --> 01:17:06,839 - So I'm just going to-- This is Chris, our sound guy. 1455 01:17:06,883 --> 01:17:08,232 He's going to put a microphone-- 1456 01:17:08,275 --> 01:17:10,321 - Put a microphone on me? - Yeah, if that's OK. 1457 01:17:10,364 --> 01:17:12,149 Oh, and I think Sarah mentioned, 1458 01:17:12,192 --> 01:17:13,629 we do have to do a pat-down. 1459 01:17:13,672 --> 01:17:16,632 [tense music] 1460 01:17:16,675 --> 01:17:22,159 1461 01:17:22,202 --> 01:17:25,075 - This it? - Yeah. 1462 01:17:25,118 --> 01:17:26,685 I can go in? 1463 01:17:39,393 --> 01:17:42,135 - Hey, Dad. - Hello. 1464 01:17:42,179 --> 01:17:44,007 Everything's recording. 1465 01:17:44,050 --> 01:17:46,313 It's on just like I said it would be. 1466 01:17:46,357 --> 01:17:47,793 Are we going live? 1467 01:17:47,837 --> 01:17:49,621 - No, it's not--what are you talking about, live? 1468 01:17:49,665 --> 01:17:51,275 Oh, shucks. 1469 01:17:53,364 --> 01:17:56,541 - So I know that you have questions for me, 1470 01:17:56,584 --> 01:17:58,674 but are you OK if I ask you questions first? 1471 01:17:58,717 --> 01:18:02,678 - You're more than welcome. - OK. 1472 01:18:02,721 --> 01:18:04,810 [sighs] 1473 01:18:06,638 --> 01:18:08,596 So I wanted to ask you, 1474 01:18:08,640 --> 01:18:10,468 how did you feel about Alissa 1475 01:18:10,511 --> 01:18:13,253 after she accused you of sexual assault in 2000? 1476 01:18:13,297 --> 01:18:16,692 - Upset, disappointed, my heart broken. 1477 01:18:16,735 --> 01:18:18,606 Were you angry? 1478 01:18:18,650 --> 01:18:21,784 - Yes, at her. Yes, I was. 1479 01:18:21,827 --> 01:18:25,222 - Do you think Alissa was afraid of you? 1480 01:18:25,265 --> 01:18:28,704 - No. Not like you guys keep saying she was. 1481 01:18:28,747 --> 01:18:30,923 - Because you told me before that you don't remember 1482 01:18:30,967 --> 01:18:33,317 fear and Alissa's eyes, but you remember defiance. 1483 01:18:33,360 --> 01:18:34,622 So you don't think Alissa was-- 1484 01:18:34,666 --> 01:18:36,537 - You don't know-- you don't even-- 1485 01:18:36,581 --> 01:18:38,801 Alissa wasn't afraid of hardly anything, Sarah. 1486 01:18:38,844 --> 01:18:41,020 - OK, do you recall writing to Alissa, 1487 01:18:41,064 --> 01:18:43,414 your words, quote, "I am so sorry 1488 01:18:43,457 --> 01:18:45,764 you were afraid of me," end quote? 1489 01:18:45,808 --> 01:18:49,028 - That had to do with Alissa telling people, 1490 01:18:49,072 --> 01:18:52,162 you know, I'm afraid my dad's going to kill me, 1491 01:18:52,205 --> 01:18:54,120 which is every statement that you made, 1492 01:18:54,164 --> 01:18:55,513 - everybody else makes. - Right there. 1493 01:18:55,556 --> 01:18:57,341 - You just said it. - Oh, there you go, Sarah. 1494 01:18:57,384 --> 01:18:59,256 Earspot, guys. Earmark that one. 1495 01:18:59,299 --> 01:19:00,779 Come on, Sarah. 1496 01:19:00,823 --> 01:19:03,434 What is wrong-- Is your career that important 1497 01:19:03,477 --> 01:19:05,131 that you're going to manipulate this into a lie? 1498 01:19:05,175 --> 01:19:06,959 You've destroyed your own family. 1499 01:19:07,003 --> 01:19:09,309 You're helping destroy-- Your brothers and sisters-- 1500 01:19:09,353 --> 01:19:11,007 or brothers don't want to talk to you 1501 01:19:11,050 --> 01:19:15,315 because you keep continuously bringing up these lies. 1502 01:19:15,359 --> 01:19:17,013 You even bring up things that they say, 1503 01:19:17,056 --> 01:19:19,667 "Dad, how can Sarah remember? She wasn't even there." 1504 01:19:19,711 --> 01:19:21,365 - Well, that's between me and them, right? 1505 01:19:21,408 --> 01:19:23,062 - And, no-- - That's between you and them? 1506 01:19:23,106 --> 01:19:24,760 They talk to me all the time. 1507 01:19:24,803 --> 01:19:26,283 - You're the one that's making this into national news, Sarah. 1508 01:19:26,326 --> 01:19:27,675 - Dad-- 1509 01:19:27,719 --> 01:19:29,286 - I'm not here for you to interrogate me, OK? 1510 01:19:29,329 --> 01:19:31,418 - Dad, you said that I need... - I did not kill your sister. 1511 01:19:31,462 --> 01:19:33,377 - Rely on my memory, and now I am using examples. 1512 01:19:33,420 --> 01:19:34,770 - No, you don't have your memory. 1513 01:19:34,813 --> 01:19:36,206 You're reading off of something that-- 1514 01:19:36,249 --> 01:19:37,642 You just said it yourself, you just read it 1515 01:19:37,685 --> 01:19:39,339 because of letters I wrote. 1516 01:19:39,383 --> 01:19:41,385 You don't remember that. Were you there? 1517 01:19:43,169 --> 01:19:45,650 - I'm, like, trying to meet you in the middle here, Dad, 1518 01:19:45,693 --> 01:19:47,130 - and you can't even hear it. - No, you're not. 1519 01:19:47,173 --> 01:19:49,828 [laughs] 1520 01:19:49,872 --> 01:19:51,525 - You'll have an opportunity to ask me questions 1521 01:19:51,569 --> 01:19:53,658 when I'm done asking my questions. 1522 01:19:53,701 --> 01:19:56,617 - Really? - Is that fair? 1523 01:19:56,661 --> 01:19:58,532 - You continue on with your attitude, Sarah, 1524 01:19:58,576 --> 01:20:00,012 I'm going to leave. 1525 01:20:00,056 --> 01:20:01,535 Do you understand? 1526 01:20:01,579 --> 01:20:03,363 - I can stop this interview right now 1527 01:20:03,407 --> 01:20:05,017 if you're not going to be civil. 1528 01:20:05,061 --> 01:20:07,193 - I am being civil--you're the one that's being hostile. 1529 01:20:07,237 --> 01:20:08,368 I'm not hostile. 1530 01:20:08,412 --> 01:20:09,717 You're trying to gaslight me, 1531 01:20:09,761 --> 01:20:11,502 and you're continuing your abuse, 1532 01:20:11,545 --> 01:20:12,851 and I'm not taking it. 1533 01:20:12,895 --> 01:20:15,332 - What does gaslight mean? - Look it up. 1534 01:20:15,375 --> 01:20:19,118 - Boy, Sarah, you're just absolutely nasty. 1535 01:20:19,162 --> 01:20:20,946 [sighs] 1536 01:20:20,990 --> 01:20:23,209 - You're turning things-- really going off haywire. 1537 01:20:23,253 --> 01:20:25,821 Calm down, Sarah. Please, calm down. 1538 01:20:25,864 --> 01:20:27,692 I mean, you're really losing it. 1539 01:20:27,735 --> 01:20:29,563 - I'll calm down when you tell the truth. 1540 01:20:29,607 --> 01:20:31,261 - What truth are you looking for, Sarah? 1541 01:20:31,304 --> 01:20:32,871 Remember me asking you over and over, 1542 01:20:32,915 --> 01:20:36,005 what are you looking for, Sarah, other than ratings? 1543 01:20:36,048 --> 01:20:38,877 - OK, so my last question is, will I get that confession 1544 01:20:38,921 --> 01:20:40,836 on your deathbed? 1545 01:20:42,446 --> 01:20:44,056 Bad phrasing, Sarah. 1546 01:20:44,100 --> 01:20:46,493 It meant that the story that you have heard 1547 01:20:46,537 --> 01:20:49,453 is never going to change, even when I'm dying, Sarah, 1548 01:20:49,496 --> 01:20:52,108 because I did not molest and I did not kill 1549 01:20:52,151 --> 01:20:53,761 your daughter--your sister. 1550 01:20:53,805 --> 01:20:55,894 I was warned by all of the family, 1551 01:20:55,938 --> 01:20:58,592 don't talk to Sarah, but I chose to talk to you 1552 01:20:58,636 --> 01:21:00,594 because I really wanted to see if my daughter 1553 01:21:00,638 --> 01:21:02,596 had that much hatred towards me. 1554 01:21:02,640 --> 01:21:04,947 - You-- - I feel nothing for you. 1555 01:21:04,990 --> 01:21:08,515 I will leave this conversation and never think of you again. 1556 01:21:08,559 --> 01:21:10,648 My children will not know who you are. 1557 01:21:10,691 --> 01:21:12,519 - Are you--Sarah-- - I will not speak your name. 1558 01:21:12,563 --> 01:21:14,173 Oh, now for the audience. 1559 01:21:14,217 --> 01:21:17,785 - I wish you the best. - You're a liar, Sarah. 1560 01:21:17,829 --> 01:21:19,962 Why are you doing this, Sarah? 1561 01:21:20,005 --> 01:21:21,920 To make money off of your dead sister, 1562 01:21:21,964 --> 01:21:23,313 if she is dead? 1563 01:21:23,356 --> 01:21:25,228 - If you'd like to speak to the producers, you can. 1564 01:21:25,271 --> 01:21:27,360 I wish you the best. 1565 01:21:29,319 --> 01:21:32,975 No drumroll, guys? 1566 01:21:33,018 --> 01:21:39,895 1567 01:21:46,162 --> 01:21:48,860 - When I left that meeting with my dad, 1568 01:21:48,904 --> 01:21:52,081 it gave me a lot more peace. 1569 01:21:52,124 --> 01:21:56,302 I put myself through all of this for Alissa. 1570 01:21:56,346 --> 01:22:00,654 Her story deserves to be told, and he needed to be confronted 1571 01:22:00,698 --> 01:22:03,483 because no one else had ever done it. 1572 01:22:03,527 --> 01:22:05,398 Part of telling Alissa's story 1573 01:22:05,442 --> 01:22:09,098 is how you stop this generational abuse. 1574 01:22:09,141 --> 01:22:13,841 I had to take that power back, saying, "It stops here." 1575 01:22:13,885 --> 01:22:16,105 - Got a pretty hat--what kind of hat is that, Sarah? 1576 01:22:16,148 --> 01:22:18,194 - I don't need a judge or a jury 1577 01:22:18,237 --> 01:22:21,371 to tell me what we all know happened. 1578 01:22:21,414 --> 01:22:22,894 Sarah! 1579 01:22:25,201 --> 01:22:26,724 And although I don't have 1580 01:22:26,767 --> 01:22:29,466 a legal sense of justice right now, 1581 01:22:29,509 --> 01:22:32,425 I'm at peace with what I've done for Alissa. 1582 01:22:32,469 --> 01:22:34,993 [dramatic music] 1583 01:22:35,037 --> 01:22:37,691 You may not always get the results you want, 1584 01:22:37,735 --> 01:22:39,606 but at least you have peace 1585 01:22:39,650 --> 01:22:42,348 knowing you've done everything you can. 1586 01:22:42,392 --> 01:22:44,698 After spending so many years talking 1587 01:22:44,742 --> 01:22:46,918 about my sister Alissa's case, 1588 01:22:46,962 --> 01:22:50,008 I've decided that I want to help other families, too. 1589 01:22:50,052 --> 01:22:52,837 This is 17-year-old Asia Cowell. 1590 01:22:52,880 --> 01:22:56,406 She went missing on September 7, 2020. 1591 01:22:56,449 --> 01:22:59,365 25-year-old ISU grad student Jelani Day 1592 01:22:59,409 --> 01:23:01,715 was last seen in Bloomington, Illinois. 1593 01:23:01,759 --> 01:23:03,979 I didn't want to just stop with Alissa. 1594 01:23:04,022 --> 01:23:07,025 I wanted to keep going and help as many people as I could. 1595 01:23:07,069 --> 01:23:09,462 Leah Croucher went missing from Milton Keynes, England, 1596 01:23:09,506 --> 01:23:11,899 on February 15, 2018. 1597 01:23:11,943 --> 01:23:13,510 There are so many people out there 1598 01:23:13,553 --> 01:23:15,033 with missing or murdered loved ones 1599 01:23:15,077 --> 01:23:16,687 that were trying to get media attention 1600 01:23:16,730 --> 01:23:18,384 and get the world to care about it. 1601 01:23:18,428 --> 01:23:19,907 If you do have any information, 1602 01:23:19,951 --> 01:23:21,474 if you recognize this woman, 1603 01:23:21,518 --> 01:23:24,260 please call the Palm Beach County Sheriff's Department. 1604 01:23:24,303 --> 01:23:26,305 I'm so proud of Sarah. 1605 01:23:26,349 --> 01:23:28,177 She's helping other people. 1606 01:23:28,220 --> 01:23:30,440 - She says she's encouraged by how her story 1607 01:23:30,483 --> 01:23:31,963 has inspired people around the world 1608 01:23:32,007 --> 01:23:33,791 to self-advocate when it comes 1609 01:23:33,834 --> 01:23:35,706 to working with law enforcement. 1610 01:23:35,749 --> 01:23:37,969 - It was Sarah's page that inspired me. 1611 01:23:38,013 --> 01:23:41,407 - She's helping them find their own voices 1612 01:23:41,451 --> 01:23:43,931 in their own situations. 1613 01:23:43,975 --> 01:23:45,933 It's really beautiful what she's doing. 1614 01:23:45,977 --> 01:23:48,893 - As much as I never wanted to be 1615 01:23:48,936 --> 01:23:51,330 this big of a part of Alissa's story, 1616 01:23:51,374 --> 01:23:54,899 I have to recognize that it has inspired others 1617 01:23:54,942 --> 01:23:57,641 to do something similar to what I did. 1618 01:23:57,684 --> 01:24:00,035 [somber music] 1619 01:24:00,078 --> 01:24:02,037 So next week you're going to hear me 1620 01:24:02,080 --> 01:24:05,997 talk about a brand-new case that you've never heard before. 1621 01:24:06,041 --> 01:24:09,435 This case has so many twists and turns over the years, 1622 01:24:09,479 --> 01:24:11,524 it'll have your head spinning 1623 01:24:11,568 --> 01:24:16,268 and wondering why this family is still fighting for justice. 1624 01:24:16,312 --> 01:24:23,493 123839

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