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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,042 --> 00:00:03,542 WILLIAM SHATNER: A sacred artifact, 2 00:00:03,708 --> 00:00:05,875 imbued with divine power. 3 00:00:06,042 --> 00:00:09,000 Holy relics that can heal the sick. 4 00:00:09,167 --> 00:00:14,292 And ten deadly plagues sent by the hand of God. 5 00:00:15,208 --> 00:00:18,083 To billions of people around the world, 6 00:00:18,250 --> 00:00:21,208 the Bible is a sacred text, 7 00:00:21,417 --> 00:00:23,708 believed to be directly inspired by God. 8 00:00:24,875 --> 00:00:29,833 But some events recorded in holy scripture defy explanation, 9 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:32,875 and raise profound mysteries of faith. 10 00:00:33,083 --> 00:00:34,417 For instance, 11 00:00:34,542 --> 00:00:38,250 does the evil entity referred to as Satan 12 00:00:38,417 --> 00:00:40,000 actually exist? 13 00:00:40,167 --> 00:00:42,667 And can humans really channel 14 00:00:42,833 --> 00:00:46,250 divine forces to perform miracles? 15 00:00:46,375 --> 00:00:50,292 Well, that is what we'll try and find out. 16 00:00:50,417 --> 00:00:52,333 โ™ช โ™ช 17 00:01:07,542 --> 00:01:10,833 High atop a plateau overlooking the Allegheny River 18 00:01:10,958 --> 00:01:15,000 sits Saint Anthony's Chapel. 19 00:01:15,167 --> 00:01:17,333 Every day, Christians from all over the world pass 20 00:01:17,500 --> 00:01:20,750 beneath its tall spires and rounded arches 21 00:01:20,875 --> 00:01:23,500 to participate in devotion and prayer. 22 00:01:23,667 --> 00:01:27,000 However, it's not the outside of Saint Anthony's Chapel 23 00:01:27,208 --> 00:01:30,167 that makes it such an inspiring destination... 24 00:01:31,042 --> 00:01:33,875 ...but rather the inside. 25 00:01:34,042 --> 00:01:38,708 Because within this church lies something that is quite unusual. 26 00:01:40,083 --> 00:01:42,292 A collection of thousands of bones 27 00:01:42,500 --> 00:01:45,958 that once belonged to Catholic saints. 28 00:01:46,125 --> 00:01:47,833 FATHER NICHOLAS VASKOV: When you come here 29 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:49,208 and you walk in and you see 30 00:01:49,375 --> 00:01:51,917 these beautiful gold or brass reliquaries 31 00:01:52,042 --> 00:01:55,958 and just how vast the collection is, 32 00:01:56,125 --> 00:01:59,000 which include anything from part of an arm bone 33 00:01:59,208 --> 00:02:00,458 or a leg bone, 34 00:02:00,583 --> 00:02:04,000 to the skulls and the full skeletons, 35 00:02:04,208 --> 00:02:06,667 it really is just overwhelming. 36 00:02:06,875 --> 00:02:11,167 At Saint Anthony Chapel there are over 5,000 relics 37 00:02:11,333 --> 00:02:14,500 and this collection is second only to the Vatican. 38 00:02:14,708 --> 00:02:17,958 So here at Saint Anthony's, it really is a unique experience 39 00:02:18,125 --> 00:02:21,250 to come and see the relics of saints. 40 00:02:22,542 --> 00:02:24,375 SHATNER: The relics of Saint Anthony, 41 00:02:24,583 --> 00:02:26,333 Saint Demetrious, 42 00:02:26,542 --> 00:02:28,125 Saint Stephana 43 00:02:28,292 --> 00:02:32,375 and Saint Theodore among many others 44 00:02:32,542 --> 00:02:35,292 are kept in Saint Anthony's Chapel. 45 00:02:35,458 --> 00:02:38,583 JONATHAN YOUNG: Saint Anthony's is quite a place. 46 00:02:38,750 --> 00:02:40,292 They have items that come 47 00:02:40,458 --> 00:02:41,750 from the four corners of the world, 48 00:02:41,875 --> 00:02:42,792 mostly the Holy Land, 49 00:02:42,958 --> 00:02:44,375 and they're all protected there, 50 00:02:44,542 --> 00:02:47,458 and we can see these relics. 51 00:02:48,583 --> 00:02:52,167 You can see a little of the holy there 52 00:02:52,375 --> 00:02:56,625 in a tooth or a piece of skull, 53 00:02:56,792 --> 00:02:59,375 which is a relic, a piece of a saint. 54 00:02:59,542 --> 00:03:02,333 A relic that you can actually look at and be close to, 55 00:03:02,458 --> 00:03:05,500 that's like a little bit of God right there in the chapel. 56 00:03:05,667 --> 00:03:07,833 SHATNER: Millions of Christians consider 57 00:03:08,042 --> 00:03:10,167 holy relics to be sacred 58 00:03:10,292 --> 00:03:13,000 and it's well-known that the bones of many saints are 59 00:03:13,167 --> 00:03:15,750 preserved in cathedrals throughout the world. 60 00:03:15,917 --> 00:03:19,458 But how did such a vast collection of relics 61 00:03:19,583 --> 00:03:22,833 end up in a chapel in Pittsburgh? 62 00:03:23,833 --> 00:03:25,167 VASKOV: What makes the collection of relics here 63 00:03:25,375 --> 00:03:27,250 particularly unique 64 00:03:27,417 --> 00:03:30,333 is the way in which they were obtained by Father Mollinger, 65 00:03:30,500 --> 00:03:32,333 who built the chapel. 66 00:03:32,500 --> 00:03:34,958 He obtained them in the late 1880s 67 00:03:35,125 --> 00:03:37,542 because there were people who just thought 68 00:03:37,750 --> 00:03:41,208 that the relics had no value and things were being discarded. 69 00:03:41,375 --> 00:03:44,333 Father Mollinger had a network of people in Europe 70 00:03:44,542 --> 00:03:46,500 who were preserving the relics 71 00:03:46,708 --> 00:03:48,792 and he would go and retrieve them himself. 72 00:03:49,958 --> 00:03:51,167 We have pilgrimages come in 73 00:03:51,375 --> 00:03:53,542 at least once a week if not more. 74 00:03:53,708 --> 00:03:55,958 And what a gift it is to be able to welcome them 75 00:03:56,125 --> 00:03:57,875 and share this treasure that we have here. 76 00:03:58,042 --> 00:03:59,708 โ™ช โ™ช 77 00:03:59,875 --> 00:04:02,833 SHATNER: Each and every relic is enclosed with a wax seal, 78 00:04:03,042 --> 00:04:05,208 both to ensure its authenticity 79 00:04:05,375 --> 00:04:06,583 and to protect it from those 80 00:04:06,750 --> 00:04:10,458 who might wish to tamper with the holy remains. 81 00:04:11,417 --> 00:04:13,125 But why are holy relics 82 00:04:13,292 --> 00:04:16,167 so coveted and revered in the first place? 83 00:04:16,333 --> 00:04:19,000 Why go to such extraordinary lengths 84 00:04:19,208 --> 00:04:21,708 to preserve these ancient bones? 85 00:04:21,875 --> 00:04:24,375 KEN JEREMIAH: All throughout Europe, in churches, 86 00:04:24,583 --> 00:04:27,333 you'll see these bejeweled skeletons 87 00:04:27,500 --> 00:04:32,542 adorned with gold, silver, and expensive jewels, 88 00:04:32,708 --> 00:04:35,708 that really look like they're works of art 89 00:04:35,875 --> 00:04:39,250 but strange works of art. 90 00:04:39,417 --> 00:04:41,708 And the whole purpose of this is because 91 00:04:41,875 --> 00:04:44,417 there is this idea, especially in Christianity, 92 00:04:44,583 --> 00:04:48,417 that there is this inherent spiritual power 93 00:04:48,542 --> 00:04:51,500 that infuses the remains, 94 00:04:51,625 --> 00:04:54,875 and that spirit has to be honored. 95 00:04:55,042 --> 00:04:58,667 KATHLEEN McGOWAN: The bones of saints and martyrs in Christianity are 96 00:04:58,875 --> 00:05:00,167 of exceptional value, 97 00:05:00,292 --> 00:05:02,125 and extraordinary power 98 00:05:02,208 --> 00:05:03,875 according to Christian tradition. 99 00:05:05,125 --> 00:05:07,167 It was believed that when a saint was 100 00:05:07,292 --> 00:05:09,833 murdered for their beliefs 101 00:05:09,917 --> 00:05:14,500 that their bones became infused with their sanctity, 102 00:05:14,625 --> 00:05:16,417 the essence of their grace. 103 00:05:17,875 --> 00:05:21,292 ROBERT CARGILL: Holy relics, specifically skeletal relics, 104 00:05:21,458 --> 00:05:23,417 stem from this tradition 105 00:05:23,542 --> 00:05:28,167 that the bones themselves possess power. 106 00:05:28,375 --> 00:05:30,292 And this comes from the Bible. 107 00:05:31,417 --> 00:05:34,042 You have a story in Second Kings, 108 00:05:34,208 --> 00:05:35,750 in the Hebrew Bible, in the Old Testament 109 00:05:35,958 --> 00:05:38,083 of a burial procession. 110 00:05:38,250 --> 00:05:41,125 And they were doing a burial, 111 00:05:41,250 --> 00:05:42,958 and they saw some invaders coming. 112 00:05:43,083 --> 00:05:44,500 And they just threw the body 113 00:05:44,708 --> 00:05:48,208 on top of the bones of the prophet Elisha 114 00:05:48,375 --> 00:05:51,500 which were already lying on the ground 115 00:05:51,708 --> 00:05:54,875 and as soon as the dead body touched the bones of Elisha, 116 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:56,708 they came back to life. 117 00:05:56,833 --> 00:05:59,292 So, obviously, the bones of Elisha have 118 00:05:59,458 --> 00:06:01,000 some life-giving property. 119 00:06:02,042 --> 00:06:04,125 McGOWAN: We also have stories from the very beginning 120 00:06:04,333 --> 00:06:07,042 of Christianity about miracles related 121 00:06:07,250 --> 00:06:08,542 to the bones of different saints. 122 00:06:08,708 --> 00:06:11,208 The bones of Saint Lazarus, for example-- 123 00:06:11,375 --> 00:06:13,167 who was raised from the dead by Jesus-- 124 00:06:13,292 --> 00:06:15,292 were highly coveted. 125 00:06:15,417 --> 00:06:17,875 And there are legends in Provence 126 00:06:18,042 --> 00:06:21,292 that the bones of Lazarus were brought in to people 127 00:06:21,458 --> 00:06:23,833 who were sick and dying 128 00:06:23,958 --> 00:06:27,208 and that utilizing the bones in the presence of these people 129 00:06:27,375 --> 00:06:29,917 with the right kind of prayers would then 130 00:06:30,042 --> 00:06:32,958 heal them of this near-fatal illness. 131 00:06:33,958 --> 00:06:36,042 TOK THOMPSON: There was a huge, lucrative market 132 00:06:36,208 --> 00:06:39,042 in medieval Europe for saints' bones, 133 00:06:39,208 --> 00:06:41,917 and different cathedrals would be vying with each other 134 00:06:42,083 --> 00:06:45,375 about who could have the most important relics. 135 00:06:45,542 --> 00:06:48,292 So even today, if you go to the cathedrals of Europe, 136 00:06:48,417 --> 00:06:49,625 any good cathedral will have 137 00:06:49,792 --> 00:06:51,833 a few body parts in there of saints. 138 00:06:52,042 --> 00:06:56,500 SHATNER: Ancient relics that can channel the power of God? 139 00:06:56,667 --> 00:06:59,333 For some, that idea is a little hard to believe. 140 00:06:59,542 --> 00:07:02,000 In fact, there are many skeptics who claim 141 00:07:02,125 --> 00:07:05,333 that supposed holy relics are not even the actual bones 142 00:07:05,458 --> 00:07:08,000 of Christian saints. 143 00:07:08,167 --> 00:07:12,167 And yet, some of these relics have been proven 144 00:07:12,375 --> 00:07:14,667 to be quite authentic. 145 00:07:14,792 --> 00:07:16,875 Of all the holy relics that exist from the saints... 146 00:07:17,792 --> 00:07:20,417 ...perhaps the most fascinating is 147 00:07:20,583 --> 00:07:22,500 the skull of Mary Magdalene. 148 00:07:22,708 --> 00:07:24,792 The relics and the skull of Mary Magdalene have been 149 00:07:24,875 --> 00:07:26,458 kept on display 150 00:07:26,625 --> 00:07:29,500 in the Basilica of Saint-Maximin in the southwest of France 151 00:07:29,708 --> 00:07:31,083 since about the fourth century 152 00:07:31,292 --> 00:07:33,292 and have been dated and carbon-dated 153 00:07:33,458 --> 00:07:34,958 and examined in a number of different ways. 154 00:07:35,083 --> 00:07:38,208 So we're pretty clear that these are actually 155 00:07:38,375 --> 00:07:40,250 truly the relics of Mary Magdalene. 156 00:07:40,375 --> 00:07:43,333 Now because Mary Magdalene was present 157 00:07:43,500 --> 00:07:45,750 for the resurrection of Jesus Christ, 158 00:07:45,917 --> 00:07:47,917 her relics were considered to have 159 00:07:48,083 --> 00:07:52,667 even more power and importance than perhaps any other saint. 160 00:07:52,833 --> 00:07:55,792 There was an understanding that you could even potentially 161 00:07:55,875 --> 00:07:57,583 bring somebody back from the dead 162 00:07:57,750 --> 00:07:59,292 with the relics of Mary Magdalene. 163 00:07:59,417 --> 00:08:01,500 There have been miracles recorded for centuries 164 00:08:01,667 --> 00:08:02,833 from people who were 165 00:08:03,042 --> 00:08:04,542 in the presence of Magdalene's relics, 166 00:08:04,708 --> 00:08:08,250 and many people believe that you could benefit 167 00:08:08,417 --> 00:08:10,333 from the extraordinary sanctity 168 00:08:10,542 --> 00:08:12,792 that was said to rest in her bones. 169 00:08:13,792 --> 00:08:16,750 And people who go to revere her skull have 170 00:08:16,917 --> 00:08:21,000 incredibly powerful emotional experiences with it. 171 00:08:21,167 --> 00:08:25,500 It really radiates a type of grace and a spirituality. 172 00:08:25,625 --> 00:08:28,542 And people walk away from it sobbing. 173 00:08:28,750 --> 00:08:30,250 People fall to their knees. 174 00:08:31,708 --> 00:08:34,167 VASKOV: I've heard many stories of people 175 00:08:34,292 --> 00:08:36,167 who trust with all their heart 176 00:08:36,292 --> 00:08:40,417 that the encounter they had with the relics of saints 177 00:08:40,625 --> 00:08:42,708 brought about healing in their life. 178 00:08:42,833 --> 00:08:45,167 In fact, over in the Chapel Museum, 179 00:08:45,292 --> 00:08:47,083 there are crutches and canes 180 00:08:47,292 --> 00:08:49,625 and things that-that people were able to cast aside 181 00:08:49,750 --> 00:08:51,000 because they were healed. 182 00:08:52,583 --> 00:08:55,583 If someone would doubt whether this is real, 183 00:08:55,750 --> 00:08:57,500 whether this is authentic, 184 00:08:57,667 --> 00:09:00,625 I would just invite them 185 00:09:00,792 --> 00:09:05,417 to talk to someone whose life, even in the slightest way, 186 00:09:05,583 --> 00:09:07,375 was made better 187 00:09:07,500 --> 00:09:09,500 or made different because of their encounter 188 00:09:09,708 --> 00:09:11,458 with the saints 189 00:09:11,667 --> 00:09:13,417 through holy relics. 190 00:09:13,583 --> 00:09:16,542 SHATNER: To this day, holy relics continue 191 00:09:16,708 --> 00:09:18,917 to fascinate people all over the world 192 00:09:19,083 --> 00:09:22,042 and are held sacred by billions of faithful. 193 00:09:23,125 --> 00:09:25,250 But not all mysteries of faith concern 194 00:09:25,417 --> 00:09:27,708 objects that can be seen in person. 195 00:09:28,417 --> 00:09:29,750 Some have been lost to history, 196 00:09:29,917 --> 00:09:32,167 like an ancient Jewish artifact 197 00:09:32,375 --> 00:09:34,625 that was said to have the power... 198 00:09:34,792 --> 00:09:36,792 to destroy nations. 199 00:09:41,958 --> 00:09:44,667 SHATNER: Every December, millions of Jewish people 200 00:09:44,875 --> 00:09:46,625 all over the world come together 201 00:09:46,792 --> 00:09:50,792 to celebrate an eight-day festival known as Hanukkah. 202 00:09:52,417 --> 00:09:53,667 According to tradition, 203 00:09:53,833 --> 00:09:55,083 during the holiday, 204 00:09:55,208 --> 00:09:57,792 the Jewish faithful light a candle each night 205 00:09:57,958 --> 00:10:01,125 on a special candelabra, called a menorah. 206 00:10:02,292 --> 00:10:06,500 This sacred practice is referred to as the Festival of Lights, 207 00:10:06,708 --> 00:10:10,833 and it has been performed for more than 2,000 years. 208 00:10:11,917 --> 00:10:14,917 While Hanukkah is a happy, family celebration, 209 00:10:15,042 --> 00:10:16,875 the menorah actually commemorates 210 00:10:17,042 --> 00:10:19,625 an ancient Hebrew relic that according 211 00:10:19,750 --> 00:10:22,667 to the Old Testament of the Bible 212 00:10:22,833 --> 00:10:27,333 stood five feet tall, was made out of solid gold, 213 00:10:27,458 --> 00:10:29,625 and was said to be imbued 214 00:10:29,833 --> 00:10:32,583 with the power of God. 215 00:10:34,750 --> 00:10:38,167 TZADOK: The Temple Menorah is a sacred treasure. 216 00:10:38,292 --> 00:10:42,500 The original Menorah was built 217 00:10:42,708 --> 00:10:47,000 in the same time that was the Ark of the Covenant. 218 00:10:47,083 --> 00:10:53,042 The laws of the candelabra, the Menorah, were very precise. 219 00:10:53,250 --> 00:10:56,208 Those artifacts built in the days of Moses 220 00:10:56,417 --> 00:10:58,333 had a special power to them. 221 00:10:58,542 --> 00:11:00,833 Not symbolically, but actually. 222 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:03,833 SHATNER: Under God's instruction, the holy Temple Menorah 223 00:11:04,042 --> 00:11:07,667 was used to light a sacred place of worship for the Israelites, 224 00:11:07,833 --> 00:11:10,167 and was constructed with seven branches 225 00:11:10,333 --> 00:11:13,458 to represent the seven days of creation. 226 00:11:13,625 --> 00:11:16,792 Today, the menorah used during Hanukkah 227 00:11:16,958 --> 00:11:19,208 has nine branches to memorialize 228 00:11:19,375 --> 00:11:23,208 one of the ancient relic's great miracles. 229 00:11:23,375 --> 00:11:27,458 We know from history that, in the second century, 230 00:11:27,625 --> 00:11:29,000 before the Common Era, 231 00:11:29,208 --> 00:11:34,750 the Greek empire came into the land of Israel. 232 00:11:34,875 --> 00:11:39,208 When the Greeks came, they defiled the Temple, 233 00:11:39,417 --> 00:11:41,792 and all of the sacred oil 234 00:11:41,917 --> 00:11:46,417 used for the lighting of the Menorah were destroyed. 235 00:11:46,583 --> 00:11:52,750 AMIR HUSSAIN: A group of Jews who are under occupation revolt, 236 00:11:52,958 --> 00:11:55,083 and they're able to overcome the Greeks. 237 00:11:55,250 --> 00:11:58,125 They're able to reconsecrate the Menorah. 238 00:11:58,208 --> 00:12:00,708 Except, of course, they don't have enough oil 239 00:12:00,875 --> 00:12:02,208 that you use as the fuel. 240 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:08,125 They have oil for the lamp to light for one day. 241 00:12:08,292 --> 00:12:11,958 Miraculously, the lamp lights for eight days, 242 00:12:12,083 --> 00:12:13,500 which, when we think about it, 243 00:12:13,667 --> 00:12:15,750 doesn't seem like such a big miracle. 244 00:12:15,917 --> 00:12:18,083 But if you think about it, from a Jewish point of view, 245 00:12:18,292 --> 00:12:20,833 if nature is under the control of God, 246 00:12:20,958 --> 00:12:23,667 this is one of the signs of God's favor. 247 00:12:23,833 --> 00:12:27,667 SHATNER: For even more dramatic evidence of the Menorah's divine power, 248 00:12:27,875 --> 00:12:30,042 some point to the fact that, throughout history, 249 00:12:30,208 --> 00:12:33,875 anyone who tampered with this sacred relic 250 00:12:34,042 --> 00:12:37,542 suffered dire consequences. 251 00:12:37,708 --> 00:12:39,333 COLLINS: In AD 70, 252 00:12:39,500 --> 00:12:42,875 the Romans sacked Jerusalem, 253 00:12:43,042 --> 00:12:45,667 and they carried off all of the treasures 254 00:12:45,833 --> 00:12:48,000 of the temple to Rome. 255 00:12:49,542 --> 00:12:51,625 And this is celebrated 256 00:12:51,792 --> 00:12:56,125 in the so-called Arch of Titus in Rome. 257 00:12:56,333 --> 00:12:59,250 You can actually see on this relief, 258 00:12:59,375 --> 00:13:02,833 the actual Menorah being carried away. 259 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:05,167 And it's said that, thereafter, 260 00:13:05,375 --> 00:13:11,625 Rome was sacked by the Vandals in 455 AD. 261 00:13:11,792 --> 00:13:15,000 The Vandals take the Menorah back to Carthage. 262 00:13:15,208 --> 00:13:17,917 And then, that's sacked by the Byzantines. 263 00:13:18,083 --> 00:13:20,208 And so, everyone that gets this, 264 00:13:20,375 --> 00:13:22,667 at some point, their empire gets destroyed. 265 00:13:22,875 --> 00:13:25,125 And is there a sense of, "Oh, is this because 266 00:13:25,250 --> 00:13:28,000 God's providence isn't with these people?" 267 00:13:29,583 --> 00:13:32,750 TONY McMAHON: The Menorah ended up in Constantinople, 268 00:13:32,917 --> 00:13:36,125 the capital of the Byzantine Empire. 269 00:13:36,292 --> 00:13:39,667 But apparently, the Jewish residents of Constantinople 270 00:13:39,875 --> 00:13:43,083 warned the emperor that the Jewish God 271 00:13:43,208 --> 00:13:47,167 does not like his treasure being held by other people, 272 00:13:47,375 --> 00:13:50,958 and the emperor gets rid of the Menorah. 273 00:13:51,167 --> 00:13:54,667 COLLINS: It was felt that having the Menorah, 274 00:13:54,875 --> 00:13:59,042 this item of incredible divine power there, 275 00:13:59,208 --> 00:14:03,375 was gonna bring destruction. 276 00:14:03,542 --> 00:14:06,167 And thereafter, it vanishes. 277 00:14:06,250 --> 00:14:10,875 SHATNER: Could the Temple Menorah actually have divine powers? 278 00:14:11,042 --> 00:14:12,500 For now, we have only 279 00:14:12,708 --> 00:14:14,500 the historical accounts to consider, 280 00:14:14,708 --> 00:14:20,333 as the Menorah has been lost for more than a thousand years. 281 00:14:20,500 --> 00:14:24,167 However, according to one incredible theory, 282 00:14:24,292 --> 00:14:27,042 the Menorah might still exist today 283 00:14:27,250 --> 00:14:29,875 and it may actually be hidden 284 00:14:30,042 --> 00:14:36,083 deep beneath Vatican City, in Rome. 285 00:14:36,250 --> 00:14:41,125 COLLINS: People have believed since medieval times that the Menorah, 286 00:14:41,250 --> 00:14:43,000 and also, the Ark of the Covenant, 287 00:14:43,167 --> 00:14:45,250 were kept in a cave, 288 00:14:45,417 --> 00:14:49,417 beneath the actual site of the Vatican itself, 289 00:14:49,625 --> 00:14:54,875 suggesting that they were hiding the Menorah, 290 00:14:55,042 --> 00:14:58,625 and that this may well have remained here 291 00:14:58,792 --> 00:15:01,625 through to modern times. 292 00:15:01,792 --> 00:15:04,958 Of course, the Vatican denies 293 00:15:05,083 --> 00:15:07,708 actually possessing this holy relic, 294 00:15:07,875 --> 00:15:10,042 so we can only but speculate 295 00:15:10,250 --> 00:15:14,417 on whether it is or isn't still there today. 296 00:15:14,542 --> 00:15:19,667 But if the Vatican does still possess the Menorah, 297 00:15:19,833 --> 00:15:22,750 why would they want to keep it? 298 00:15:22,875 --> 00:15:25,333 Is it something to do with the divine power 299 00:15:25,542 --> 00:15:27,833 that it's thought to hold? 300 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:30,542 SHATNER: Is it possible that the Menorah, 301 00:15:30,750 --> 00:15:32,250 and also, the Ark of the Covenant, 302 00:15:32,417 --> 00:15:36,292 are locked behind closed doors at the Vatican? 303 00:15:36,417 --> 00:15:39,125 And if so, have these holy artifacts 304 00:15:39,292 --> 00:15:42,667 been hidden because their powers should not be tampered with, 305 00:15:42,833 --> 00:15:44,583 as some believe? 306 00:15:46,583 --> 00:15:50,500 If the blessing of God was upon this sacred artifact, 307 00:15:50,625 --> 00:15:54,583 then the blessing of God remains upon this sacred artifact. 308 00:15:56,125 --> 00:15:58,167 And indeed, those who would seek 309 00:15:58,333 --> 00:16:02,417 to violate that "sacredity" 310 00:16:02,542 --> 00:16:04,333 or dishonor it, 311 00:16:04,500 --> 00:16:09,208 would indeed become subject to the wrath of God, 312 00:16:09,333 --> 00:16:13,083 which is not something anyone would want to incur. 313 00:16:21,708 --> 00:16:23,458 SHATNER: The Holy Land. 314 00:16:24,875 --> 00:16:26,708 For thousands of years, 315 00:16:26,875 --> 00:16:29,083 religious pilgrims of many faiths 316 00:16:29,208 --> 00:16:31,000 have come to this sacred city to express 317 00:16:31,208 --> 00:16:33,167 their devotion to God. 318 00:16:34,583 --> 00:16:37,833 But just outside the walls of Jerusalem 319 00:16:38,042 --> 00:16:41,917 lies the Valley of Hinnom, 320 00:16:42,125 --> 00:16:45,667 an ancient place of unholy worship 321 00:16:45,833 --> 00:16:49,125 where evil deeds were performed long ago 322 00:16:49,292 --> 00:16:53,625 in honor of God's enemy Satan. 323 00:16:56,208 --> 00:17:00,042 In the Book of Jeremiah, God reports through his prophet 324 00:17:00,208 --> 00:17:01,833 that people outside Jerusalem, 325 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:03,708 in a place called the Valley of Hinnom, 326 00:17:03,875 --> 00:17:06,667 are sacrificing their sons and, also, their daughters, 327 00:17:06,833 --> 00:17:08,583 and God explicitly says, 328 00:17:08,750 --> 00:17:12,625 "I never asked you to do this satanic ritual," 329 00:17:12,750 --> 00:17:15,583 and expresses that he's angry, that there's going to be 330 00:17:15,750 --> 00:17:18,083 a terrible punishment for this. 331 00:17:19,625 --> 00:17:22,833 Historically speaking, in the days of the Bible, 332 00:17:23,042 --> 00:17:25,833 not everybody was faithful to the Lord. 333 00:17:26,042 --> 00:17:30,125 Satanism influenced the Israelite community. 334 00:17:30,292 --> 00:17:32,250 And what they would do, literally, 335 00:17:32,375 --> 00:17:35,750 was they'd create a big pit of fire, 336 00:17:35,917 --> 00:17:38,167 and they actually would sacrifice 337 00:17:38,333 --> 00:17:41,875 their firstborn male through the fire. 338 00:17:42,042 --> 00:17:47,208 This was performed in the Valley of Hinnom, 339 00:17:47,375 --> 00:17:51,417 which is actually the Hebrew word today for "hell." 340 00:17:54,083 --> 00:17:56,250 SHTANER: What can explain the shocking events 341 00:17:56,417 --> 00:17:58,667 that took place in the Valley of Hinnom 342 00:17:58,833 --> 00:18:00,542 thousands of years ago? 343 00:18:00,708 --> 00:18:04,042 Was it simply the result of human wickedness? 344 00:18:04,250 --> 00:18:08,125 Or is it possible that, as the biblical accounts suggest, 345 00:18:08,292 --> 00:18:12,375 Satan and his demons were and still are 346 00:18:12,542 --> 00:18:17,333 real entities that have the power to influence people? 347 00:18:17,500 --> 00:18:19,333 MIKKI BROCK: Some people think of Satan as "Beelzebub" 348 00:18:19,542 --> 00:18:23,292 or "Lucifer" or the "Prince of Darkness" 349 00:18:23,417 --> 00:18:26,125 or "the evil one" or "Old Nick." 350 00:18:26,292 --> 00:18:29,833 And some of these names come from scripture. 351 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:32,208 A lot of them come from folklore. 352 00:18:33,708 --> 00:18:36,500 And if you think of Satan as this ubiquitous figure 353 00:18:36,708 --> 00:18:40,167 who's constantly tormenting and tempting people, 354 00:18:40,375 --> 00:18:43,292 then it makes sense that the devil can be known 355 00:18:43,458 --> 00:18:47,417 by all of these different nicknames. 356 00:18:47,583 --> 00:18:52,167 Is there really a character of the Satan? 357 00:18:52,333 --> 00:18:54,792 Well, the definition of that is going to differ 358 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:57,125 between the major world religions. 359 00:18:57,250 --> 00:19:01,500 But fear of an eternal damnation 360 00:19:01,708 --> 00:19:05,958 in the afterlife has always been sufficient 361 00:19:06,125 --> 00:19:09,167 to keep people religious, 362 00:19:09,333 --> 00:19:13,125 and in line with the beliefs of their religious clerics, 363 00:19:13,250 --> 00:19:15,667 who warn them that failure to comply 364 00:19:15,750 --> 00:19:19,542 will lead to an eternity of suffering and damnation. 365 00:19:19,708 --> 00:19:22,917 Or in other words, the stories from which this developed 366 00:19:23,042 --> 00:19:25,667 were to teach moral lessons. 367 00:19:27,417 --> 00:19:29,542 LAYCOCK: Throughout history, many religions have 368 00:19:29,708 --> 00:19:31,833 interpreted the world through the lens of having 369 00:19:32,042 --> 00:19:33,958 a figure of evil, Satan, who's responsible 370 00:19:34,125 --> 00:19:36,042 for evil in the world. 371 00:19:36,208 --> 00:19:37,542 According to Christian tradition, 372 00:19:37,750 --> 00:19:40,167 Satan was one of the most powerful 373 00:19:40,292 --> 00:19:42,083 and beautiful of the angels. 374 00:19:42,208 --> 00:19:44,167 He rebelled against God, 375 00:19:44,333 --> 00:19:45,917 a third of the angels sided with Satan 376 00:19:46,083 --> 00:19:47,667 and there was a war in heaven, 377 00:19:47,833 --> 00:19:52,167 which Satan lost and was cast down into hell. 378 00:19:52,375 --> 00:19:56,500 Satan is the embodiment of evil, a fallen angel 379 00:19:56,625 --> 00:20:00,083 who tempts you to not follow your best values. 380 00:20:00,292 --> 00:20:03,042 He is a god of sorts, 381 00:20:03,208 --> 00:20:06,042 and he can offer something like that to us, 382 00:20:06,250 --> 00:20:09,667 great knowledge, control, mastery. 383 00:20:09,833 --> 00:20:11,417 The stuff of transcendence. 384 00:20:11,542 --> 00:20:13,500 Of course, it will cost us everything. 385 00:20:13,708 --> 00:20:15,500 After all, this is not a straight shooter. 386 00:20:15,708 --> 00:20:17,667 This is not somebody who's going to tell the truth. 387 00:20:17,875 --> 00:20:19,833 His job is to tempt you. 388 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:22,417 BADER: Satan is believed to have tried to tempt Jesus 389 00:20:22,583 --> 00:20:24,167 when he was in the desert 390 00:20:24,375 --> 00:20:26,625 with visions of earthly delights. 391 00:20:26,792 --> 00:20:29,208 So, Satan is continually, throughout the Bible, 392 00:20:29,375 --> 00:20:33,167 someone trying to draw people from God to evil. 393 00:20:33,292 --> 00:20:36,292 But the idea of Satan flows throughout history 394 00:20:36,458 --> 00:20:38,667 and across religions. 395 00:20:38,875 --> 00:20:40,500 There is Mara in Buddhism, 396 00:20:40,708 --> 00:20:44,583 who is a demonic king, an entity representing evil, 397 00:20:44,750 --> 00:20:46,667 and therefore, would tend to take on 398 00:20:46,833 --> 00:20:48,833 very frightening forms which oftentimes 399 00:20:49,042 --> 00:20:51,500 are mixtures of human and animal. 400 00:20:51,667 --> 00:20:52,917 There is Iblis, 401 00:20:53,125 --> 00:20:56,000 who is the Islamic representation of Satan. 402 00:20:56,167 --> 00:20:58,083 So, we see this figure of Satan, 403 00:20:58,208 --> 00:21:01,333 a singular entity that is in charge of evil, 404 00:21:01,458 --> 00:21:04,333 across religions and over time. 405 00:21:05,417 --> 00:21:07,542 SHATNER: Does this universal belief 406 00:21:07,708 --> 00:21:11,167 in an evil, tempting enemy of God 407 00:21:11,333 --> 00:21:15,708 suggest that Satan, by whatever name he's called, 408 00:21:15,875 --> 00:21:17,083 is actually real? 409 00:21:17,208 --> 00:21:19,458 According to one of the most important 410 00:21:19,625 --> 00:21:21,333 spiritual leaders in the world, 411 00:21:21,500 --> 00:21:25,250 the answer is an emphatic "yes." 412 00:21:33,458 --> 00:21:35,417 Pope Francis publishes a statement 413 00:21:35,583 --> 00:21:37,333 which contains a dire warning 414 00:21:37,500 --> 00:21:40,792 for those who don't believe in the existence of Satan. 415 00:21:42,042 --> 00:21:43,375 The pope declared that: 416 00:22:01,917 --> 00:22:05,125 Pope Francis has spoken more about the reality of Satan 417 00:22:05,250 --> 00:22:07,500 than the previous popes have. 418 00:22:07,667 --> 00:22:12,375 And he often speaks about Satan as a real person, of course. 419 00:22:12,542 --> 00:22:15,375 And also, that he said, "Don't try to argue with Satan. 420 00:22:15,542 --> 00:22:17,375 "Don't get into a dialogue with Satan because 421 00:22:17,500 --> 00:22:19,958 he'll outfox you," which is good advice. 422 00:22:21,750 --> 00:22:23,708 BROCK: The current pope, who people usually think of 423 00:22:23,875 --> 00:22:26,333 as being this sort of progressive figure, 424 00:22:26,500 --> 00:22:30,292 he talks about the powers of Satan as a literal entity. 425 00:22:30,458 --> 00:22:32,750 But the devil is still a very powerful force 426 00:22:32,917 --> 00:22:36,333 who sort of lurks in the bounds of our imagination. 427 00:22:36,542 --> 00:22:38,042 BADER: It's a common misconception 428 00:22:38,208 --> 00:22:41,167 amongst academics and secular people 429 00:22:41,333 --> 00:22:43,167 that the devil is an outmoded idea, 430 00:22:43,333 --> 00:22:44,750 that it went away in the Middle Ages, 431 00:22:44,917 --> 00:22:46,458 and that couldn't be further from the truth. 432 00:22:46,625 --> 00:22:48,958 Very recent data from the United States 433 00:22:49,125 --> 00:22:51,458 shows that over half of Americans 434 00:22:51,583 --> 00:22:53,375 believe that the devil is a real entity, 435 00:22:53,542 --> 00:22:55,583 not merely an idea. 436 00:22:57,417 --> 00:22:58,500 LAYCOCK: I think that our ideas about things 437 00:22:58,708 --> 00:23:00,958 like supernatural evil tend to depend 438 00:23:01,083 --> 00:23:02,458 on the situation we're in 439 00:23:02,583 --> 00:23:04,750 and what's happening to us on a given day. 440 00:23:04,958 --> 00:23:08,292 And ultimately, many people say they absolutely believe 441 00:23:08,458 --> 00:23:09,833 in the existence of Satan. 442 00:23:14,833 --> 00:23:17,083 Whether you believe Satan is actually real 443 00:23:17,250 --> 00:23:21,833 or merely a symbol of evil, the historical importance 444 00:23:22,042 --> 00:23:25,833 of this supernatural figure is undeniable. 445 00:23:26,042 --> 00:23:28,833 The same can also be said 446 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:32,083 about a series of devastating cataclysms 447 00:23:32,292 --> 00:23:34,375 recorded in the Old Testament, 448 00:23:34,542 --> 00:23:36,792 when the ancient Egyptians were punished 449 00:23:36,958 --> 00:23:39,125 by the powerful force... 450 00:23:39,292 --> 00:23:42,000 of ten deadly plagues. 451 00:23:49,333 --> 00:23:52,750 SHATNER: At a staggering 4,130 miles, 452 00:23:52,917 --> 00:23:56,458 this river that winds through the deserts of northern Africa 453 00:23:56,667 --> 00:23:59,375 is considered to be the longest in the world. 454 00:23:59,583 --> 00:24:01,125 In ancient times, 455 00:24:01,250 --> 00:24:04,208 the Nile was the center of the Egyptian civilization. 456 00:24:04,375 --> 00:24:06,250 But the Nile is perhaps most famous 457 00:24:06,458 --> 00:24:09,000 for being the site of the Plagues of Egypt-- 458 00:24:09,208 --> 00:24:11,667 a miraculous series of events 459 00:24:11,875 --> 00:24:14,875 that is recorded in the Book of Exodus. 460 00:24:15,917 --> 00:24:18,500 HUSSAIN: In the Book of Exodus, the chosen people of God, 461 00:24:18,708 --> 00:24:20,292 the Israelites, are in Egypt, 462 00:24:20,458 --> 00:24:22,750 and they've become enslaved by Pharaoh. 463 00:24:22,917 --> 00:24:27,292 And so here's God who sends Moses to Pharaoh saying, 464 00:24:27,375 --> 00:24:30,667 "Let my people, my chosen people, go." 465 00:24:31,875 --> 00:24:34,750 Pharaoh, of course, isn't going to let his workforce go. 466 00:24:34,875 --> 00:24:37,625 And so God sends these ten plagues. 467 00:24:38,750 --> 00:24:40,333 SHATNER: As the story goes, 468 00:24:40,500 --> 00:24:44,542 God turned the water of the Nile River to blood. 469 00:24:45,583 --> 00:24:47,417 When that didn't convince the Pharaoh, 470 00:24:47,583 --> 00:24:50,458 God rained down frogs from the sky. 471 00:24:51,458 --> 00:24:54,417 And he sent lice, flies, pestilence, 472 00:24:54,542 --> 00:24:57,792 and boils to harm the people and animals. 473 00:24:57,917 --> 00:25:01,500 Then God summoned a mighty thunderstorm of hail and fire, 474 00:25:01,708 --> 00:25:06,792 followed by a swarm of locusts that covered the land of Egypt. 475 00:25:08,208 --> 00:25:10,000 When Pharaoh still didn't listen, 476 00:25:10,125 --> 00:25:14,042 God created a darkness that lasted three days 477 00:25:14,167 --> 00:25:17,625 to fill the people's hearts with dread. 478 00:25:19,083 --> 00:25:22,167 Finally, God sent the Angel of Death 479 00:25:22,375 --> 00:25:25,167 to claim Egypt's firstborn sons, 480 00:25:25,375 --> 00:25:27,833 including the Pharaoh's oldest son. 481 00:25:28,833 --> 00:25:30,833 Only then did the Pharaoh 482 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:34,500 finally set Moses and his people free. 483 00:25:36,750 --> 00:25:38,542 CARGILL: According to the Bible, 484 00:25:38,708 --> 00:25:42,833 God is clearly responsible for the plagues. 485 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:46,500 However, you might be able to understand 486 00:25:46,625 --> 00:25:50,875 how the Pharaoh might see these plagues 487 00:25:51,042 --> 00:25:52,833 as coincidence, 488 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,167 as naturally occurring phenomenon. 489 00:25:56,792 --> 00:26:00,542 But when so many plagues occur back to back, 490 00:26:00,708 --> 00:26:02,667 then he's convinced. 491 00:26:02,833 --> 00:26:07,667 It's a story about how God wants people to be free, 492 00:26:07,875 --> 00:26:10,708 and not oppressed, and not exploited. 493 00:26:12,042 --> 00:26:15,208 SHATNER: Were the ten plagues really acts of God? 494 00:26:15,417 --> 00:26:18,333 Or can they be explained by other means? 495 00:26:18,500 --> 00:26:20,458 Many biblical historians agree 496 00:26:20,625 --> 00:26:23,167 that before that question can even be answered, 497 00:26:23,375 --> 00:26:26,417 it must first be established whether the ten plagues 498 00:26:26,583 --> 00:26:28,833 actually happened at all. 499 00:26:29,042 --> 00:26:32,333 There exists an ancient Egyptian text 500 00:26:32,542 --> 00:26:35,833 called the Ipuwer Manuscript... 501 00:26:37,667 --> 00:26:40,625 ...written at the time that the Exodus 502 00:26:40,750 --> 00:26:42,458 is supposed to have occurred 503 00:26:42,667 --> 00:26:45,958 that tells us that Egypt was afflicted 504 00:26:46,083 --> 00:26:49,250 by what the Bible describes as plagues. 505 00:26:50,333 --> 00:26:54,708 It talks about the river Nile turning blood-red, 506 00:26:54,833 --> 00:26:59,833 it talks about plagues of flies and locusts, 507 00:26:59,958 --> 00:27:02,708 it talks about boils on people's skins 508 00:27:02,875 --> 00:27:05,833 and it talks about cattle dying in the fields. 509 00:27:06,042 --> 00:27:10,167 So, according to the Ipuwer Manuscript, 510 00:27:10,333 --> 00:27:13,542 the plagues of the Exodus could actually have happened. 511 00:27:14,708 --> 00:27:17,833 SHATNER: But if the Plagues of Egypt did, in fact, take place, 512 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:21,667 then how did so many different calamities occur 513 00:27:21,875 --> 00:27:24,583 in such a relatively short period of time? 514 00:27:26,333 --> 00:27:30,333 Some researchers suggest that a natural disaster 515 00:27:30,542 --> 00:27:33,625 may have been the cause of the plagues. 516 00:27:34,875 --> 00:27:37,500 PHILLIPS: What's fascinating is that many of the plagues 517 00:27:37,708 --> 00:27:40,500 described in the Book of Exodus 518 00:27:40,667 --> 00:27:43,458 bear an uncanny resemblance 519 00:27:43,583 --> 00:27:46,250 to the effects of a volcanic eruption. 520 00:27:47,792 --> 00:27:49,667 For example, when volcanoes go off, 521 00:27:49,875 --> 00:27:54,125 you get volcanic ash clouds that cover the skies, 522 00:27:54,292 --> 00:27:56,250 day turns to night. 523 00:27:57,375 --> 00:28:00,208 And then you get something called iron oxide, 524 00:28:00,333 --> 00:28:01,500 which is a red substance 525 00:28:01,708 --> 00:28:03,625 that can be thrown out of volcanoes, 526 00:28:03,833 --> 00:28:06,917 and when it goes into the water, turns the water red. 527 00:28:07,042 --> 00:28:12,125 You might think that frogs and flies 528 00:28:12,292 --> 00:28:15,667 are nothing to do with a volcanic eruption. 529 00:28:15,833 --> 00:28:19,625 But what happens is when a volcano goes off, 530 00:28:19,750 --> 00:28:22,417 the larger predators are killed 531 00:28:22,583 --> 00:28:26,083 by inhaling the volcanic dust. 532 00:28:27,500 --> 00:28:28,750 And because of this, 533 00:28:28,875 --> 00:28:30,833 smaller animals that would have been eaten 534 00:28:31,042 --> 00:28:33,333 by the larger predators survive. 535 00:28:33,500 --> 00:28:36,500 So you end up with millions of frogs, 536 00:28:36,708 --> 00:28:40,500 flies, locusts, other insects, 537 00:28:40,667 --> 00:28:42,000 that you wouldn't have had otherwise, 538 00:28:42,167 --> 00:28:45,042 just like the plagues in the Bible. 539 00:28:46,375 --> 00:28:48,667 MICHIO KAKU: If you have the atmospheric anomalies 540 00:28:48,875 --> 00:28:51,333 created by the eruption of this volcano, 541 00:28:51,542 --> 00:28:53,958 all of a sudden, everything you're accustomed to seeing, 542 00:28:54,083 --> 00:28:56,458 night and day, and cycles of temperature 543 00:28:56,625 --> 00:28:58,667 get thrown out of kilter 544 00:28:58,833 --> 00:29:01,667 because of a major eruption that has taken place. 545 00:29:01,792 --> 00:29:04,250 That may have caused the ten plagues 546 00:29:04,375 --> 00:29:09,250 mentioned in the Bible that afflicted Egypt. 547 00:29:09,375 --> 00:29:11,375 SHATNER: Is it possible that the Plagues of Egypt 548 00:29:11,500 --> 00:29:14,583 were caused by fallout from a volcanic eruption? 549 00:29:14,708 --> 00:29:16,292 Perhaps. 550 00:29:16,375 --> 00:29:19,667 But what could explain the tenth and final plague, 551 00:29:19,875 --> 00:29:22,833 the death of Egypt's firstborn? 552 00:29:24,333 --> 00:29:27,333 HUSSAIN: There's no easy explanation for this angel of the Lord 553 00:29:27,500 --> 00:29:31,167 who slays the firstborn of Egypt, 554 00:29:31,333 --> 00:29:34,000 or why this happens, other than this is God saying, 555 00:29:34,125 --> 00:29:36,917 "Okay, here's the last straw." 556 00:29:38,625 --> 00:29:40,958 But oftentimes, the point of the story 557 00:29:41,125 --> 00:29:43,500 isn't to talk about scientific truths. 558 00:29:43,708 --> 00:29:46,208 It's to talk about human relationships. 559 00:29:47,542 --> 00:29:49,208 It's about what do we do 560 00:29:49,375 --> 00:29:52,125 when we're not living in right relationship with God, 561 00:29:52,292 --> 00:29:53,833 or with each other? 562 00:29:54,042 --> 00:29:57,292 The story of the ten plagues persists 563 00:29:57,417 --> 00:30:01,292 because it's not about the science of the miracle. 564 00:30:02,542 --> 00:30:04,083 It's about freedom. 565 00:30:04,250 --> 00:30:09,083 When God successfully gets the Hebrews out of Egypt, 566 00:30:09,250 --> 00:30:12,333 that's when they turn to the heavens and say, 567 00:30:12,542 --> 00:30:14,875 "God works in mysterious ways." 568 00:30:21,208 --> 00:30:22,792 SHATNER: In northeastern Egypt, 569 00:30:22,875 --> 00:30:25,375 there's a 120-mile stretch of the Red Sea 570 00:30:25,542 --> 00:30:29,292 that separates Africa from the Sinai Peninsula. 571 00:30:29,458 --> 00:30:32,125 In addition to being one of the busiest shipping routes 572 00:30:32,333 --> 00:30:33,542 in the world, 573 00:30:33,708 --> 00:30:36,000 the Red Sea is also widely believed 574 00:30:36,125 --> 00:30:37,917 to be the site of a miracle 575 00:30:38,125 --> 00:30:41,417 that continues to capture our imagination. 576 00:30:42,958 --> 00:30:45,333 CARGILL: Following the story of the Exodus, 577 00:30:45,500 --> 00:30:51,167 Moses successfully gets the Hebrews out of Egypt, 578 00:30:51,250 --> 00:30:54,375 and they take off, but then the Pharaoh, in his anger, 579 00:30:54,583 --> 00:30:57,667 and in the realization that he's lost his free labor, 580 00:30:57,875 --> 00:31:01,042 says, "I changed my mind, go get those guys." 581 00:31:02,167 --> 00:31:05,833 And so, now the Hebrews find themselves on the run 582 00:31:05,958 --> 00:31:08,583 with this massive body of water ahead of them 583 00:31:08,750 --> 00:31:12,542 understood to be the "Red Sea," 584 00:31:12,708 --> 00:31:15,458 and the Egyptian army behind them. 585 00:31:17,292 --> 00:31:19,167 SHATNER: According to the Bible, 586 00:31:19,333 --> 00:31:22,208 as the Egyptian soldiers were closing in on the Israelites, 587 00:31:22,375 --> 00:31:26,167 Moses held out his staff across the waters, 588 00:31:26,292 --> 00:31:29,375 and God parted the Red Sea. 589 00:31:31,375 --> 00:31:35,000 The Israelites are able to walk across the sea. 590 00:31:35,125 --> 00:31:37,792 And then Pharaoh's army comes rushing in after them, 591 00:31:37,917 --> 00:31:40,667 and the sea closes in, collapses, 592 00:31:40,833 --> 00:31:42,458 and kills them. 593 00:31:42,667 --> 00:31:44,208 And so the story gets resolved 594 00:31:44,417 --> 00:31:46,208 by Moses and the Israelites escaping 595 00:31:46,417 --> 00:31:49,500 through the miracle of God with the parting of the Red Sea. 596 00:31:50,833 --> 00:31:54,000 SHATNER: Biblical scholars point to the parting of the Red Sea 597 00:31:54,167 --> 00:31:57,333 as a story that is meant to show that the power of God 598 00:31:57,542 --> 00:32:01,500 can bring salvation to those who are downtrodden. 599 00:32:02,833 --> 00:32:05,292 HUSSAIN: The parting of the Red Sea. 600 00:32:05,375 --> 00:32:07,917 It's this amazing kind of story because it very much 601 00:32:08,042 --> 00:32:10,292 is this vengeful God... 602 00:32:11,875 --> 00:32:15,000 ...who has this extraordinary power 603 00:32:15,208 --> 00:32:18,833 saying, "Okay, here's the reward for the righteous." 604 00:32:19,042 --> 00:32:20,792 Moses and his people are able to get free. 605 00:32:20,958 --> 00:32:22,625 "Here's the punishment for the wicked." 606 00:32:22,750 --> 00:32:24,417 You know, Pharaoh and his army. 607 00:32:26,667 --> 00:32:29,000 SHATNER: On the surface, the parting of the Red Sea 608 00:32:29,125 --> 00:32:31,000 may seem far-fetched 609 00:32:31,208 --> 00:32:33,625 compared to other acts of God 610 00:32:33,750 --> 00:32:35,833 that resemble natural occurrences, 611 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,000 such as the Great Flood 612 00:32:38,208 --> 00:32:41,167 or the ten plagues. 613 00:32:42,208 --> 00:32:44,125 But there are some researchers who believe 614 00:32:44,250 --> 00:32:46,167 that there is evidence to suggest 615 00:32:46,375 --> 00:32:49,375 that the literal parting of an enormous body of water 616 00:32:49,542 --> 00:32:51,417 is actually possible. 617 00:32:52,542 --> 00:32:55,833 And they claim a clue can be found in the way the Bible says 618 00:32:56,000 --> 00:33:00,417 God used his power to part the Red Sea. 619 00:33:00,625 --> 00:33:03,000 The biblical account of the parting of the water 620 00:33:03,167 --> 00:33:05,125 is told in Exodus Chapter 14. 621 00:33:05,292 --> 00:33:06,875 And there's two key verses. 622 00:33:07,042 --> 00:33:08,208 I will read them. 623 00:33:09,292 --> 00:33:12,667 "Then Moses stretched out his hand over the sea, 624 00:33:12,792 --> 00:33:17,667 "and the Lord drove the sea back by a strong east wind all night 625 00:33:17,833 --> 00:33:22,208 and made the sea dry land, and the waters were divided." 626 00:33:23,333 --> 00:33:26,542 So there's this detail in the account 627 00:33:26,708 --> 00:33:29,833 that says how the wind blew, and the water shifted, 628 00:33:30,042 --> 00:33:33,083 and the dry land emerged from the sea bottom. 629 00:33:34,250 --> 00:33:36,125 SHATNER: But what was the mysterious wind 630 00:33:36,208 --> 00:33:39,000 that God used to part the Red Sea? 631 00:33:39,167 --> 00:33:42,833 Well, according to some scientists, 632 00:33:43,042 --> 00:33:45,833 it could have been an unusual weather phenomenon 633 00:33:45,917 --> 00:33:47,917 that is known as 634 00:33:48,083 --> 00:33:50,500 "wind setdown." 635 00:33:52,875 --> 00:33:54,792 When a strong wind blows on a body of water, 636 00:33:54,958 --> 00:33:56,542 the body of water shifts 637 00:33:56,708 --> 00:33:58,542 all the water in one direction. 638 00:33:59,958 --> 00:34:02,458 Now, on one side it's called storm surge, 639 00:34:02,542 --> 00:34:04,708 because the waters are gonna build up there. 640 00:34:04,875 --> 00:34:06,958 On the other side, the level drops, 641 00:34:07,125 --> 00:34:09,000 and that's called wind setdown. 642 00:34:09,208 --> 00:34:11,125 Then when the wind stops, 643 00:34:11,292 --> 00:34:13,042 the waters come back again 644 00:34:13,208 --> 00:34:15,292 just like the Bible says. 645 00:34:17,042 --> 00:34:21,167 One theory is that Moses could have timed it. 646 00:34:22,292 --> 00:34:24,917 He knew when the next rush of water would come in. 647 00:34:25,083 --> 00:34:27,958 And the Egyptians would blindly walk 648 00:34:28,125 --> 00:34:30,333 into the trap and get flooded. 649 00:34:31,500 --> 00:34:34,167 DREWS: This kind of event happens only by hourly timing. 650 00:34:34,333 --> 00:34:39,250 And the Bible reports that God told Moses to be at this place 651 00:34:39,417 --> 00:34:42,833 and at this time and be ready for what's gonna happen. 652 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:46,583 So the mystery here is really in the timing. 653 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,125 SHATNER: Could the parting of the Red Sea have been the result 654 00:34:50,292 --> 00:34:52,375 of a weather phenomenon? 655 00:34:52,542 --> 00:34:55,417 Some scientists believe that it's plausible, 656 00:34:55,583 --> 00:34:58,583 particularly since there are multiple historical accounts 657 00:34:58,708 --> 00:35:00,833 of strange wind activity 658 00:35:01,042 --> 00:35:03,000 in this area. 659 00:35:03,167 --> 00:35:05,667 In the year 1798, 660 00:35:05,833 --> 00:35:07,833 Napoleon and his troops 661 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:11,167 were crossing over the Red Sea area. 662 00:35:11,292 --> 00:35:13,875 But then water suddenly rushes in. 663 00:35:14,042 --> 00:35:17,125 -(waves crashing) -And Napoleon's troops 664 00:35:17,333 --> 00:35:19,458 almost drowned as a consequence. 665 00:35:20,625 --> 00:35:22,167 So some people think that what happened 666 00:35:22,375 --> 00:35:24,958 to Napoleon and his troops might have 667 00:35:25,167 --> 00:35:27,042 happened on a much larger scale 668 00:35:27,208 --> 00:35:29,625 to the Egyptian army. 669 00:35:31,667 --> 00:35:34,875 DREWS: There is an account from 1882 670 00:35:35,083 --> 00:35:37,583 where British General Major Tulloch 671 00:35:37,792 --> 00:35:40,042 was surveying along the shores of the Suez Canal 672 00:35:40,208 --> 00:35:41,750 in the eastern Nile Delta. 673 00:35:42,875 --> 00:35:48,000 He describes how the wind blew all night long from the east, 674 00:35:48,125 --> 00:35:50,500 and he had to go into his tent and hunker down. 675 00:35:50,667 --> 00:35:53,833 The next morning, he reports that the natives 676 00:35:53,958 --> 00:35:56,333 were walking around on dry ground 677 00:35:56,542 --> 00:35:59,833 where the previous day they had been in their boats. 678 00:35:59,917 --> 00:36:02,000 Immediately, it flashed to his mind, 679 00:36:02,208 --> 00:36:04,250 this is like Moses and the Israelites 680 00:36:04,417 --> 00:36:06,208 and the parting of the Red Sea. 681 00:36:07,500 --> 00:36:10,083 ROBERT RUSSELL: The miracles of the Bible 682 00:36:10,250 --> 00:36:12,167 in some way reflect our... 683 00:36:12,375 --> 00:36:14,417 limited knowledge of the way the world works. 684 00:36:15,417 --> 00:36:17,000 People didn't have the science 685 00:36:17,167 --> 00:36:19,500 to describe the underlying events in nature, 686 00:36:19,625 --> 00:36:22,167 and even now, we don't have enough 687 00:36:22,292 --> 00:36:25,500 knowledge to know why some events happen. 688 00:36:26,542 --> 00:36:29,292 The point is that scientific knowledge of natural processes 689 00:36:29,417 --> 00:36:31,667 doesn't exclude God bringing them about. 690 00:36:32,917 --> 00:36:34,792 God acts through these events. 691 00:36:46,417 --> 00:36:48,667 SHATNER: 2,400 feet below ground, 692 00:36:48,875 --> 00:36:50,792 dozens of miners toil 693 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:54,333 in the sweltering darkness of the San Jose Copper Mine. 694 00:36:54,458 --> 00:36:55,708 (miners shouting, clamoring) 695 00:36:55,875 --> 00:36:58,917 Suddenly, the earth above them shifts 696 00:36:59,083 --> 00:37:02,458 and dislodges a boulder the size of a 45-story building. 697 00:37:04,458 --> 00:37:06,375 The massive boulder comes crashing down, 698 00:37:06,542 --> 00:37:08,625 causing the mine shaft to collapse, 699 00:37:08,792 --> 00:37:12,458 and blocking the ramp that leads up to the surface. 700 00:37:14,708 --> 00:37:18,000 MARC ARONSON: There were 33 men in the mine at the time of the accident. 701 00:37:18,167 --> 00:37:20,250 On the surface, 702 00:37:20,417 --> 00:37:23,833 they knew that there had been a terrible accident. 703 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:26,125 But it was not clear 704 00:37:26,333 --> 00:37:29,333 what that meant for the men down below. 705 00:37:29,458 --> 00:37:32,375 SIMON ROMERO: The outside world had no idea 706 00:37:32,542 --> 00:37:34,792 if they were alive or dead. 707 00:37:34,958 --> 00:37:37,292 People were really on edge. 708 00:37:37,458 --> 00:37:39,667 They were watching this around the world on television. 709 00:37:39,875 --> 00:37:41,667 It's really something that people were following 710 00:37:41,875 --> 00:37:43,208 very, very closely. 711 00:37:44,250 --> 00:37:47,042 SHATNER: Search and rescue teams quickly began to drill into the rock 712 00:37:47,208 --> 00:37:49,292 to try and free the miners, 713 00:37:49,458 --> 00:37:51,625 but progress was slow. 714 00:37:51,750 --> 00:37:54,333 For days, the world watched in suspense 715 00:37:54,542 --> 00:37:56,333 as rescuers desperately 716 00:37:56,542 --> 00:37:59,375 continued to drill in search of the miners. 717 00:38:00,542 --> 00:38:03,000 ARONSON: It was nearly impossible to find the men. 718 00:38:03,208 --> 00:38:06,167 Because nobody can see through the earth. 719 00:38:06,375 --> 00:38:09,667 And the maps were outdated. 720 00:38:09,833 --> 00:38:11,833 And that meant, 721 00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:13,750 as one of the drillers said, 722 00:38:13,875 --> 00:38:15,500 "We're drilling blind." 723 00:38:17,417 --> 00:38:19,458 SHATNER: Finally, after 17 long days, 724 00:38:19,583 --> 00:38:21,583 one of the rescuers' drills 725 00:38:21,750 --> 00:38:25,083 uncovered evidence that, incredibly, 726 00:38:25,208 --> 00:38:27,542 the miners were still alive. 727 00:38:28,708 --> 00:38:32,167 The miners had found some red paint 728 00:38:32,250 --> 00:38:36,250 so that when the drill came down through, 729 00:38:36,417 --> 00:38:40,833 they could paint on the drill to show 730 00:38:40,958 --> 00:38:43,292 that "we are alive." 731 00:38:44,750 --> 00:38:48,125 In the drill, they sent a note out that said in Spanish, 732 00:38:48,250 --> 00:38:52,250 "Estamos bien en el refugio, los 33." 733 00:38:52,375 --> 00:38:55,792 "We are okay in the refuge, the 33 of us." 734 00:38:55,958 --> 00:38:57,875 (cheering, shouting) 735 00:38:58,083 --> 00:39:00,667 ROMERO: And that really just changed everything. 736 00:39:03,750 --> 00:39:06,625 SHATNER: To combat their feelings of helplessness, 737 00:39:06,792 --> 00:39:11,042 the trapped miners turned to their last remaining refuge. 738 00:39:11,208 --> 00:39:13,333 Their faith. 739 00:39:13,458 --> 00:39:16,875 ROMERO: One of the things that really struck me about 740 00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:20,542 why they were able to make it, uh, for so long 741 00:39:20,708 --> 00:39:24,000 was their religious beliefs. 742 00:39:24,125 --> 00:39:26,167 They really felt like 743 00:39:26,375 --> 00:39:28,167 prayer was one of their strategies 744 00:39:28,292 --> 00:39:29,833 to help them make it through this. 745 00:39:32,083 --> 00:39:33,583 ITALO BROWN: Literature documents 746 00:39:33,708 --> 00:39:38,083 that faith is a significant factor in survivability. 747 00:39:39,500 --> 00:39:41,333 Sometimes it's individual faith. 748 00:39:41,500 --> 00:39:43,792 Sometimes it is faith of a community. 749 00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:47,208 The hard part is, there is no science 750 00:39:47,375 --> 00:39:50,167 that we have that absolutely defines it, 751 00:39:50,333 --> 00:39:53,583 but faith has 752 00:39:53,792 --> 00:39:56,542 real tangible results for many people. 753 00:39:58,125 --> 00:40:00,750 RAMANI DURVASULA: For the Chilean miners, many of them were men of faith 754 00:40:00,917 --> 00:40:02,833 as part of their day-to-day lives. 755 00:40:02,917 --> 00:40:07,417 So praying together, having that collective energy 756 00:40:07,625 --> 00:40:11,500 was just enough hope to keep a person going for another day. 757 00:40:13,083 --> 00:40:15,000 SHATNER: After 69 days, 758 00:40:15,167 --> 00:40:17,250 the rescuers finally created 759 00:40:17,375 --> 00:40:20,125 a hole big enough to extract the miners. 760 00:40:22,542 --> 00:40:24,583 Then as the world waited with bated breath... 761 00:40:24,708 --> 00:40:28,125 (cheering, clamoring) 762 00:40:28,292 --> 00:40:30,792 ...the men were brought up one by one. 763 00:40:32,250 --> 00:40:33,625 And astonishingly, 764 00:40:33,833 --> 00:40:36,833 all 33 miners 765 00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:38,333 made it out alive. 766 00:40:38,458 --> 00:40:41,250 (cheering, clamoring) 767 00:40:41,375 --> 00:40:43,917 But perhaps what's even more incredible, 768 00:40:44,083 --> 00:40:46,583 is that they were rescued two months sooner 769 00:40:46,708 --> 00:40:48,500 than everyone expected. 770 00:40:48,708 --> 00:40:50,792 And the miners firmly believed 771 00:40:50,917 --> 00:40:53,458 that this unexpected turn of events 772 00:40:53,583 --> 00:40:55,333 showed that a higher power 773 00:40:55,500 --> 00:40:58,167 had intervened on their behalf. 774 00:40:59,500 --> 00:41:02,708 ROMERO: The power of prayer played a crucial role 775 00:41:02,875 --> 00:41:07,667 in allowing these 33 miners to make it. 776 00:41:07,833 --> 00:41:11,667 It's even been said that God was the 34th miner. 777 00:41:11,833 --> 00:41:15,167 Um, several of the men who were trapped down there said that. 778 00:41:15,333 --> 00:41:17,708 They really felt like their belief 779 00:41:17,875 --> 00:41:21,208 in God was why they were rescued. 780 00:41:21,375 --> 00:41:23,625 Were the Chilean miners 781 00:41:23,792 --> 00:41:26,583 saved by their prayers to God? 782 00:41:26,750 --> 00:41:29,750 Ultimately, it's a mystery of faith. 783 00:41:29,917 --> 00:41:32,458 And just one of many examples 784 00:41:32,625 --> 00:41:36,000 in a long line of miraculous events 785 00:41:36,167 --> 00:41:38,792 attributed to the intervention of the Almighty. 786 00:41:38,958 --> 00:41:41,792 For thousands of years, people have believed 787 00:41:41,958 --> 00:41:45,458 that a divine being, beyond human comprehension, 788 00:41:45,625 --> 00:41:48,333 is present in our world. 789 00:41:48,542 --> 00:41:52,042 And just like sacred acts portrayed in the Bible, 790 00:41:52,208 --> 00:41:56,292 or mysterious events we can only describe as "blessed," 791 00:41:56,458 --> 00:41:59,000 the power of faith remains 792 00:41:59,125 --> 00:42:00,792 unexplained. 793 00:42:00,958 --> 00:42:02,833 CAPTIONING PROVIDED BY A+E NETWORKS 62533

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