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(intense music)
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I've done over 13,000
autopsies in my career.
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I perform autopsies
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to try to figure out
how in fact people died.
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I have this echo
going through my head,
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constantly feeding
me and telling me,
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rule out homicide, rule out
homicide, rule out homicide.
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We're talking about two
deaths in a small town.
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Things started spiraling.
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We have a relatively
benign car accident
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and a fall down the stairs.
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I needed to know what
caused those type of injuries.
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Are these lacerations due
to somebody striking her
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with an object,
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or is it due to a fall?
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I wanted to examine
that heart to see
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if in fact she had
a heart attack.
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There were cuts and
gashes and bruises.
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She was fighting someone.
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This is someone they trusted,
they loved, they adored.
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It was just a gut feeling.
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She didn't fall
around the steps.
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There's more to it than that.
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I don't think that anybody
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would've expected what we found.
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People are crying for
justice from the grave.
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[Voiceover] (whispering)
Tell me, tell me.
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Tell me how,
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tell me,
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tell me
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how I died.
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(heart thumping)
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(intense music continuing)
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It was the afternoon
of April 23rd, 1999,
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and a call came into 911.
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It was a local pastor,
Arthur Schirmer.
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Everybody knew him as A.B.
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He said that he
was out for a run.
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He came home and he
saw Jewel, his wife,
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at the bottom of the staircase.
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She had fallen.
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(ambulance siren)
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When first responders showed up,
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and they go inside the house,
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and it was anything but calm.
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When first responders tried
to give Jewel medical aid,
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she immediately started
flailing her arms.
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She definitely was still alive,
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and she did not
want to be touched.
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According to EMS providers,
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she was found at the
bottom of the steps
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with a cord wrapped
around her leg.
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Both shoes are off,
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and she was brought to
Hershey Medical Center.
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It was a cold and
windy and dreary day,
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and the phone rang and
my wife answered it,
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and she came out in the kitchen,
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and said, "It's A.B., he
wants to talk to you."
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So, I walked in the room,
picked up the phone,
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and he said that my sister
Jewel had an accident.
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The conversation
turned for the worst,
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because then he said,
"She's in an intensive care
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in the intensive care unit.
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They don't think
she's gonna make it."
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So, when I hung up the phone,
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I had walked down the hallway,
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and I had to tell my father
his daughter was gonna die.
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When my father and I arrived
at the Hershey Medical Center,
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we walked down
this long hallway,
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and instead of rooms,
it was all curtains.
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So I walked over to that
curtain and I pulled it back,
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and I just stopped
dead in my tracks,
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because my sister looked
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like she got hit
by a freight train.
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And the first thought
I had was there
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was just way too many injuries
for falling down steps.
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And I said to my father, I said,
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"Something's not right here."
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And he shook his head
and said, "Yeah."
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I said, "Look at her knuckles.
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She was in a fight."
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Maybe if she fell down
the steps,
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she would've busted
one knuckle open,
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but all 10 of 'em
were were bloody.
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It just didn't make any
sense to my father or myself.
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24, 28 hours after that point,
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I lost my sister Jewel.
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We were born here in Lebanon
County, Pennsylvania.
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Our family was a
religious family.
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My parents were both ministers.
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Jewel and I were
the only children,
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and she was 13
years older than me.
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Jewel met A.B.,
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I believe it was her second
or third year in college.
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Arthur's nickname was A.B.,
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because his middle
name was Burton
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and that's all I
ever knew him by.
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Jewel was graduated from college
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and was married before
I was in middle school.
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So, it was a normal brother
and sister relationship,
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but it wasn't a very close one,
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because of the age difference.
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Jewel was married to
Arthur for over 30 years.
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He was a well-known pastor,
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and in his church, the
people really loved him.
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Arthur and Jewel lived
in a church parsonage,
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very modest, split level home.
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They had two
daughters and one son.
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Jewel was well-known and
well loved in her community.
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That is for sure.
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Jewel's two passions in life
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were her children and music.
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My sister was like a
she-bear with cubs
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when it came to her children,
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because if you mess
with one of her kids,
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you were gonna mess with her.
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She taught Sunday
school for little kids.
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She had the children's choir.
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She was a music teacher
in a Catholic school.
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She just had a overwhelming
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love and compassion
for children.
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Pastor Schirmer was
the wholesome church man
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and cared about his community
and his life at home.
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People knew him.
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He was charismatic.
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He was a great singer.
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He was even part
of a singing group,
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and they would tour and
travel around and perform.
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The people that
attended that church,
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they thought very highly of him.
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After Jewel passed away,
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that time period for
me was difficult.
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I hunt with a lot
of police officers,
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and I know state troopers,
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and they all basically
gave me the same answer.
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The coroner has
the final decision.
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I was just convinced,
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she didn't just fall
down the steps,
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and I wanted her death
to be investigated.
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(ominous music)
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My work is
extremely important.
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When I've completed an autopsy,
and give a cause of death
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and even testify in court,
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lives are at stake.
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Why not let the detectives
do all the work?
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Well, the problem is
that law enforcement
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is good at some things,
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and we're better
at other things.
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(voiceover) This is Dr. Ross
dictating a post-mortem report,
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and I'm dictating this
report on Jewel Schirmer,
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50 year old white female.
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Even to this day,
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I can see the image of
her body in my head.
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I see this woman
lying on this gurney.
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She has bruises throughout
her entire body,
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and there were three
injuries to the head
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that really stood out
then and stand out now.
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She had two lacerations to
the right side of her head
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and a big laceration to
the back of her head.
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You know, forensic pathologists
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have a sort of internal speak
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that goes on as they're
doing an autopsy.
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And right now the body tells
us something's wrong here.
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I looked over the
medical records
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at Hershey Medical Center,
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and they examined her heart
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and believed that she
had had a heart attack,
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and she had fallen down
a flight of stairs.
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Well, I have to prove
that or disprove it.
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Suffice to say, if I'm
going to court one day,
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I have to concede
that I don't know
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if those injuries I see there
are due to trauma or whatever.
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It becomes quite a
complicated issue
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and can be very confusing,
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because ultimately the courts
don't want speculation.
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And we had a big
obstacle in this case,
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and that was when
we got the body,
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we noticed that all these
organs have been donated.
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Whoa, I got a problem.
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I'm really at a significant
disadvantage here.
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How am I gonna fix this?
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Obviously you can't
use a heart that's
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had a real heart attack,
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because the muscle's dead,
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but you can use the valves.
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And I'm thinking this
is absolutely bizarre.
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Here I am in the
middle of an autopsy.
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I'm trying to figure out the
cause and manner of death.
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One of the critical issues
is she has a heart attack.
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Does anybody leave
the heart in the body,
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so the forensic
pathologist can examine it
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and try to figure
out what's going on?
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Why on earth would you
ever take the heart out,
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and transplant it somewhere?
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It doesn't make any sense.
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You gotta save the heart
so the forensic pathologist
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can look at it under
the microscope.
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I had this echo going
through my head constantly.
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Rule out homicide, rule out
homicide, rule out homicide.
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Well, what's the answer to that?
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Get the heart, get the
heart, get the heart.
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(ominous music)
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This is a family
portrait of my mother
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and father and my sister
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and myself.
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And this is my sister's
graduation picture from 1966.
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And this one here is my
sister's wedding picture
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from 1968,
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and that's all that
I have of my sister.
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Back in 1999,
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I was contacted by
the coroner's office
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about the death
of Jewel Schirmer.
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So, I went in,
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and first thing I noted
was that there's no heart.
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And let me tell you,
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I felt like odd man out,
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and I may have to be
an insufferable nag,
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which I'm more than willing
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to do to get her heart slides.
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During the following week,
after Jewel passed away,
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my father told me
he wants to go up to
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So, I took him up there
and we knocked on the door,
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rang the doorbell.
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At one point he finally
opened the door,
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and I went right out
into the kitchen,
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into the garage, and
down into the basement
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where this supposedly happened.
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It was just a gut feeling,
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something didn't sit right,
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that she didn't fall
down the steps.
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So there was more
to it than that.
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There was a concrete floor,
concrete block basement,
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and you could see where
the walls were scrubbed.
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And I followed the line to
where the cleaning stopped.
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And I look back at the
steps and I'm thinking,
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if she fell down those steps,
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why would there be blood
all the way over here?
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Somebody really scrubbed
up this basement.
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I went back upstairs and my
father was talking to A.B.,
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and I squeezed right
in between 'em,
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and I was nose to nose
with A.B. and I said,
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"Who cleaned up all the blood?"
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And he said, "The
paramedics stayed behind
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and cleaned it up."
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And I couldn't help myself.
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And I just said,
"That's bull (beep).
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Paramedics don't stay
behind and clean up blood."
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And I know that
because I used to run
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with that same
ambulance organization.
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I said to my father,
I said, "He's lying."
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I remember when I was
approximately eight years old
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at the time,
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my parents received a phone call
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from my sister,
(phone ringing)
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late at night that
she was upset,
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'cause her husband
A.B. wasn't at home.
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And I sort of connected the dots
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that A.B. was having affairs.
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That was the first
sign that I remember
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that they were having
marital problems.
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I knew of A.B. Schirmer's
three or four affairs
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that he had when he was
married to my sister.
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A leopard doesn't
change their spots.
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For, it seemed like
weeks, I was doggedly,
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bothering just about
everybody I could
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to get that heart back,
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'cause I wanted to
examine that heart to see
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if in fact Jewel
had a heart attack.
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We were able to get
pieces of the heart back.
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The organ donation team did
have at least the muscle part.
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I was able to get those
microscopic slides
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with the muscle tissue,
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and examine 'em
under a microscope.
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At the hospital when they
did those laboratory values,
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there was one cardiac enzyme,
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which is sort of a protein
that leaks out of the heart.
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When the heart gets damaged,
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it gets released into the blood,
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and we can measure those,
enzymes in the blood.
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So, what does that mean?
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The police report points out
that these elevated enzymes,
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they believe were due
to a heart attack.
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What the police were
ultimately unaware
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of was the fact that
a heart attack, CPR,
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or even traumatic
injuries will lead
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to trauma to the heart,
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which can cause
the enzyme
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to be released in the blood.
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Anytime you get less
oxygen to the heart,
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it tends to get crippled.
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But that doesn't mean
it's a heart attack.
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The body tells us there
is traumatic brain injury.
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There are two lacerations
over this side of the skull.
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There's also a
laceration to the back.
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There's a tear back here,
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and there was a
scrape and abrasion
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around the back of that area.
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So, there were actually three
significant areas of trauma,
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three tears, three lacerations
that Jewel Schirmer had.
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But you'll notice there's
nothing to the top of the head.
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So, obviously if she's
falling down face first we
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would expect it to be
to the top of the head.
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I am trying to determine
are these lacerations due
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to someone striking
her with an object,
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or is it due to a fall?
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One of the things
we were looking for
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is what we refer to
as a postural reflex.
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So if she had fallen down
that flight of steps,
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her arms would've gone
out in front of her,
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and she would've impacted
those hands on the ground.
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Frequently they'll
get broken wrists,
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they'll get bruises on
the palm of their hands,
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get bruises up and
down the forearms,
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and then after that you get
what we call a head strike.
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You get a strike to the
lips, you get bruises,
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you get a laceration of the chin
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or breaks, you
know, in the teeth.
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These sort of things.
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And those sort of things
were notably absent,
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and I would expect us
to see those things
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had she fallen head first down
the flight of steps.
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There's no neck fracture,
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there's no rib fractures,
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there's no spine fracture,
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there's no pelvis fracture,
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no arm or leg fractures.
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That's odd.
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I looked at the
injuries to the back
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of the head of Jewel Schirmer,
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and I determined that
those lacerations were due
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to impact with a long
cylindrical object
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such as a crowbar or
something along that line.
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I relayed that information
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to the district
attorney's office,
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told them in no uncertain terms,
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Jewel's cause of death was
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a traumatic brain injury.
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This case needs to be
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pursued as a homicide.
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(intense music)
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Cause of death is what led
to a death of an individual.
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But the manner of death
deals with the circumstances
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surrounding that person's death.
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In the case of Jewel Schirmer,
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I had to rule it
ultimately as undetermined.
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And the reason why I did that
347
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is because there
was a lot of things
348
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that were not done in
this particular case.
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Number one, there needed to be
a crime scene reconstruction.
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Number two, there needed to
be a bloodstain analysis.
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Three, there needed to
be extensive interviews
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of the husband in this case,
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and none of those
things were done.
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So, I was pretty much stuck.
355
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I hit a huge roadblock.
356
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Listen, accidents happen.
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So, it is also very
realistic to think
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that if someone's vacuuming,
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and they're right in
front of the stairs,
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something happens to your
heart, you could tumble down.
361
00:18:38,958 --> 00:18:41,272
You also have a pastor,
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someone in a position of trust,
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a man that was very well
known in the community.
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He might have known
some of the people
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who were investigating this.
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If the pastor says that
this is what happened,
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why would someone question it?
368
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Based on the information
received from Arthur Schirmer,
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they decided they didn't need
to investigate any further,
370
00:19:00,895 --> 00:19:02,083
and they closed the case.
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In 2008, I was contacted
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by the Monroe County
District Attorney's office.
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And then lo and behold,
in that discussion,
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I found out that Pastor
Schirmer had remarried
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after the death
of Jewel Schirmer,
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and had remarried Betty,
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and that Betty
Schirmer had died.
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You know, it was like getting
hit with a ton of bricks.
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I'm like, wait a minute,
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you are telling me
this guy remarries,
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his wife's dead?
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00:19:48,083 --> 00:19:50,625
But that's not the
end of the story.
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According to Arthur
Schirmer, Betty has TMJ.
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She suffers from some
type of jaw issue.
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About 1:50 AM on
July 15th, 2008,
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he's driving her and rushing
her off to the hospital,
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because of this jaw pain.
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He's traveling down 715.
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Going to the hospital.
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When a deer suddenly
jumps out in the road.
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He swerves and
strikes a guardrail.
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He said, to the
responding officers.
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that he was doing
55 miles an hour.
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She had just removed
her seatbelt,
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prior to this deer
jumping into the road.
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She has blunt force trauma.
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She's bleeding
badly from her head.
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They treat her first.
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00:20:45,770 --> 00:20:46,980
They bandage her.
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She's extricated from the car,
401
00:20:48,750 --> 00:20:50,875
and immediately taken
to the hospital.
402
00:20:50,895 --> 00:20:53,458
(sirens wailing)
403
00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:01,906
Betty was taken by ambulance
to the closest hospital,
404
00:21:01,926 --> 00:21:05,833
the Poconos Medical Center,
which is a trauma center,
405
00:21:08,750 --> 00:21:10,105
but she was brain dead
406
00:21:10,125 --> 00:21:12,000
and she was taken
off of life support.
407
00:21:14,458 --> 00:21:17,042
Betty Schirmer's death
was ruled an accident
408
00:21:17,062 --> 00:21:18,625
from a motor vehicle collision.
409
00:21:19,875 --> 00:21:22,042
Based on the information
that was provided
410
00:21:22,062 --> 00:21:24,563
to the coroner and
the medical staff
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00:21:24,583 --> 00:21:28,355
about how Betty came to
receive her injuries,
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00:21:28,375 --> 00:21:31,375
there was never an autopsy
performed on Betty Schirmer
413
00:21:33,417 --> 00:21:37,250
and she was cremated within
24 hours of her death.
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00:21:42,375 --> 00:21:44,897
Several months had passed
since Betty's death,
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00:21:44,917 --> 00:21:49,417
and we received a phone call
in the detective's office.
416
00:21:49,437 --> 00:21:52,105
I answered it and it was a woman
417
00:21:52,125 --> 00:21:54,844
who was calling pretty
much every agency
418
00:21:54,864 --> 00:21:57,563
that she could get
to answer the phone
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00:21:57,583 --> 00:22:01,698
to express her concerns
about Arthur Schirmer
420
00:22:01,718 --> 00:22:05,833
and the death of his
most recent wife, Betty,
421
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as well as the death
of his first wife,
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which had occurred back
in 1999
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in Lebanon County.
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She wanted to make
sure that there
425
00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:16,855
was a thorough investigation,
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because of the other
death that had occurred.
427
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And the common denominator
to her was Arthur Schirmer.
428
00:22:25,417 --> 00:22:26,897
The officers were
talking about how this
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00:22:26,917 --> 00:22:29,625
was the second wife that
the reverend had lost.
430
00:22:30,917 --> 00:22:33,708
I remember making the comment,
"Well, that's strange,
431
00:22:33,728 --> 00:22:35,855
somebody losing two wives."
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00:22:35,875 --> 00:22:38,375
There were people in the
church who did come forward
433
00:22:38,395 --> 00:22:41,480
and express that
they had concerns.
434
00:22:41,500 --> 00:22:43,958
We found out the reverend
was having an affair
435
00:22:43,978 --> 00:22:45,083
with his secretary.
436
00:22:46,333 --> 00:22:47,855
Everyone started to wonder, wow,
437
00:22:47,875 --> 00:22:50,708
this guy's not who
they thought he was.
438
00:22:51,542 --> 00:22:54,147
Based on those phone calls,
439
00:22:54,167 --> 00:22:58,542
my chief here assigned me to
open the crash investigation
440
00:22:58,562 --> 00:23:00,000
into Betty Schirmer's death.
441
00:23:04,542 --> 00:23:06,563
To help me understand exactly
442
00:23:06,583 --> 00:23:07,855
what happened at
the crash scene,
443
00:23:07,875 --> 00:23:10,198
I had to reconstruct
the entire accident,
444
00:23:10,218 --> 00:23:12,411
and that involved
gathering photographs
445
00:23:12,431 --> 00:23:14,625
and examining
photographs of the scene.
446
00:23:15,708 --> 00:23:17,542
And in this case, the
blood stain patterns
447
00:23:17,562 --> 00:23:19,000
didn't come from this crash.
448
00:23:21,958 --> 00:23:24,958
This is the photograph that I
actually call the smoking gun.
449
00:23:24,978 --> 00:23:28,022
There's blood drops
diluted in the seat.
450
00:23:28,042 --> 00:23:32,250
You can actually see it in
the shape of a human body,
451
00:23:32,270 --> 00:23:34,541
which is more consistent
with loading her
452
00:23:34,561 --> 00:23:36,813
in the car than taking
her out of the car.
453
00:23:36,833 --> 00:23:40,542
So that was very obvious
that she was bleeding prior
454
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to the crash and being
placed in the car,
455
00:23:43,437 --> 00:23:45,000
and seated in her own blood.
456
00:23:45,792 --> 00:23:47,875
She didn't die in that crash.
457
00:23:47,895 --> 00:23:49,230
He sat in his car,
458
00:23:49,250 --> 00:23:52,708
and he let her bleed out.
459
00:24:08,667 --> 00:24:12,042
It takes a wonderful
person, an amazing person
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00:24:12,062 --> 00:24:13,980
to teach Sunday school.
461
00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:17,792
And Betty was a Sunday school
teacher, and she loved that.
462
00:24:19,833 --> 00:24:23,635
She just had so much
of a light in her.
463
00:24:23,655 --> 00:24:27,458
The light of Jesus was
shining out of her.
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00:24:27,478 --> 00:24:28,542
And I loved her.
465
00:24:30,917 --> 00:24:34,375
Betty and A.B. Schirmer
had a great relationship.
466
00:24:34,395 --> 00:24:35,792
They loved each other.
467
00:24:37,792 --> 00:24:40,125
And I did go do several
of his services.
468
00:24:40,145 --> 00:24:41,938
He was very charismatic.
469
00:24:41,958 --> 00:24:45,000
He would make the congregation
laugh and lighthearted.
470
00:24:45,020 --> 00:24:46,730
It was a fun service.
471
00:24:46,750 --> 00:24:50,083
He made it fun, and
so everyone loved him.
472
00:24:53,042 --> 00:24:56,375
I called Pastor Schirmer
to see how he was doing,
473
00:24:56,395 --> 00:24:58,437
'cause I hadn't heard
from him in a while.
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00:24:58,457 --> 00:25:00,500
So he's like, "Oh yeah,
Betty passed away."
475
00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:01,522
I said, "What?"
476
00:25:01,542 --> 00:25:02,688
I was completely shocked.
477
00:25:02,708 --> 00:25:05,375
"What?" I said,
"That's horrible."
478
00:25:05,395 --> 00:25:07,167
I was like, "I am so sorry.
479
00:25:07,187 --> 00:25:08,425
Oh my gosh."
480
00:25:13,417 --> 00:25:14,625
Just gimme a second.
481
00:25:18,750 --> 00:25:20,000
It's just horrible.
482
00:25:28,167 --> 00:25:31,250
(music intensifying)
483
00:25:33,667 --> 00:25:35,938
One of the first
tasks that we undertook
484
00:25:35,958 --> 00:25:39,042
was to do a full scale
background investigation
485
00:25:39,062 --> 00:25:40,167
into Arthur Schirmer.
486
00:25:41,917 --> 00:25:46,000
We found that he had
started his religious career
487
00:25:46,020 --> 00:25:47,688
in the 1970s,
488
00:25:47,708 --> 00:25:51,375
and became a pastor
in the Lebanon area
489
00:25:51,395 --> 00:25:53,625
early on in his career.
490
00:25:55,792 --> 00:25:57,563
Arthur married Betty in 2001,
491
00:25:57,583 --> 00:26:00,177
which is just two years
after Jewel's death.
492
00:26:00,197 --> 00:26:02,792
And then they moved
to the Reeders area.
493
00:26:05,042 --> 00:26:09,208
The congregation of the
Reeders United Methodist Church
494
00:26:09,228 --> 00:26:11,125
loved A.B. Schirmer.
495
00:26:12,167 --> 00:26:15,208
But I started to
look at the churches
496
00:26:15,228 --> 00:26:16,730
that he worked at,
497
00:26:16,750 --> 00:26:19,177
and we got some
disturbing information
498
00:26:19,197 --> 00:26:21,625
from those churches
that Mr. Schirmer,
499
00:26:21,645 --> 00:26:22,980
everywhere he went,
500
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:25,875
he had some type of
flirting complaints
501
00:26:25,895 --> 00:26:28,167
or sexual harassment complaints.
502
00:26:30,250 --> 00:26:31,688
He was very charismatic.
503
00:26:31,708 --> 00:26:35,042
He really was able to talk
his way out of any kind
504
00:26:35,062 --> 00:26:37,667
of situation that
he got himself in.
505
00:26:39,708 --> 00:26:42,198
Instead of removing
him from that position,
506
00:26:42,218 --> 00:26:44,708
they just moved him
to another location.
507
00:26:45,750 --> 00:26:48,031
Every rock I moved,
every stone I turned,
508
00:26:48,051 --> 00:26:50,333
the reverend was
shadier and shadier.
509
00:26:52,167 --> 00:26:56,750
I was reading the reports from
Jewel's death investigation.
510
00:26:56,770 --> 00:27:00,480
I realized that John
Bahney was the motive
511
00:27:00,500 --> 00:27:04,583
behind involving the police
to investigate Jewel's death.
512
00:27:04,603 --> 00:27:06,063
And I reached out to him,
513
00:27:06,083 --> 00:27:08,583
and the things he told
me were very concerning.
514
00:27:09,708 --> 00:27:12,594
I learned that Reverend Schirmer
515
00:27:12,614 --> 00:27:14,922
was having affairs
on his sister,
516
00:27:14,942 --> 00:27:17,250
and they had a
troubled relationship.
517
00:27:20,208 --> 00:27:22,875
I received a phone
call in November of 2008
518
00:27:22,895 --> 00:27:24,188
from Detective Wagner,
519
00:27:24,208 --> 00:27:25,855
and he wanted to talk to me,
520
00:27:25,875 --> 00:27:28,667
and I'm thinking, what does
he want to talk to me about?
521
00:27:28,687 --> 00:27:29,897
When it hit me,
522
00:27:29,917 --> 00:27:31,375
they're investigating
Betty's death,
523
00:27:31,395 --> 00:27:33,897
because he did it again,
524
00:27:33,917 --> 00:27:35,875
and they started
connecting the dots.
525
00:27:43,042 --> 00:27:44,688
(ominous music)
526
00:27:44,708 --> 00:27:47,750
There was concerns
about the car accident.
527
00:27:49,042 --> 00:27:53,625
The damage to the car didn't
seem to fit the gravity
528
00:27:53,645 --> 00:27:56,771
of the injuries that
Betty Schirmer sustained,
529
00:27:56,791 --> 00:27:59,917
and Arthur Schirmer
wasn't injured at all.
530
00:28:00,958 --> 00:28:03,022
It was important that we be able
531
00:28:03,042 --> 00:28:06,708
to show that accidents
don't happen like this,
532
00:28:06,728 --> 00:28:08,833
but there's also
what we don't have.
533
00:28:08,853 --> 00:28:09,897
What's missing?
534
00:28:09,917 --> 00:28:13,115
Could the injuries
have been caused
535
00:28:13,135 --> 00:28:16,333
by Betty striking
something in the car?
536
00:28:31,958 --> 00:28:35,147
and they were interested in
537
00:28:35,167 --> 00:28:38,875
if we could perform
certain verification tasks
538
00:28:38,895 --> 00:28:43,167
for a crash case
where somebody died.
539
00:28:44,250 --> 00:28:47,240
First, we were told
the assumed speed
540
00:28:47,260 --> 00:28:50,161
of the crash, 50 or
55 mile per hour.
541
00:28:50,181 --> 00:28:53,083
So, we ran many stages
of the analysis,
542
00:28:55,167 --> 00:28:57,230
and this analysis
was basically
543
00:28:57,250 --> 00:29:01,438
repeating the simulated
crash many times
544
00:29:01,458 --> 00:29:05,917
with increasingly lower and
lower and lower and lower speeds
545
00:29:05,937 --> 00:29:08,625
until the outcome
was matching what
546
00:29:08,645 --> 00:29:11,333
was observed in the
actual crash scene.
547
00:29:13,750 --> 00:29:16,708
He ended up around
18 mile per hour.
548
00:29:22,083 --> 00:29:25,469
So, I believe that it
was an intentional crash
549
00:29:25,489 --> 00:29:28,630
performed at a low speed
for hiding the fact
550
00:29:28,650 --> 00:29:31,792
that the victim was
actually attacked prior
551
00:29:31,812 --> 00:29:33,355
to the accident,
552
00:29:33,375 --> 00:29:37,875
and it was staged to justify
the injuries to the victim.
553
00:29:43,792 --> 00:29:45,855
One of the obstacles we had
554
00:29:45,875 --> 00:29:50,219
was the fact that Betty
Schirmer was not autopsied.
555
00:29:50,239 --> 00:29:54,563
But we were able to send
CT scans that were done
556
00:29:54,583 --> 00:29:58,958
when Betty was brought into
Lehigh Valley Medical Center
557
00:29:58,978 --> 00:30:00,167
at Cedar Crest.
558
00:30:01,292 --> 00:30:03,302
Dr. Ross and the
forensic pathologist
559
00:30:03,322 --> 00:30:05,313
takes Betty Schirmer's
medical records
560
00:30:05,333 --> 00:30:08,875
and compares them to the
autopsy of Jewel Schirmer,
561
00:30:10,167 --> 00:30:15,042
and finds evidence that blows
the case wide open for us.
562
00:30:20,292 --> 00:30:21,897
(intense music)
563
00:30:21,917 --> 00:30:24,875
As they say, the story
continues and the story deepens.
564
00:30:24,895 --> 00:30:27,833
The Monroe County
District Attorney's office
565
00:30:27,853 --> 00:30:29,272
asked me to get involved
566
00:30:29,292 --> 00:30:31,708
and look at Betty Schirmer's
case in more detail,
567
00:30:31,728 --> 00:30:32,758
so I did,
568
00:30:33,875 --> 00:30:37,772
but we hit another
huge roadblock.
569
00:30:37,792 --> 00:30:40,344
The coroner got involved
when she expired,
570
00:30:40,364 --> 00:30:42,917
took a couple pictures,
made some phone calls,
571
00:30:42,937 --> 00:30:44,000
determined it was
572
00:30:44,020 --> 00:30:45,063
a traffic accident,
573
00:30:45,083 --> 00:30:46,573
and they didn't even really
574
00:30:46,593 --> 00:30:48,083
do an external examination.
575
00:30:49,583 --> 00:30:52,167
Typically speaking, you're
supposed to take everything off,
576
00:30:52,187 --> 00:30:54,917
photograph everything,
document everything.
577
00:30:54,937 --> 00:30:55,958
It never happened.
578
00:30:59,125 --> 00:31:02,677
Not only that, within
days of her death,
579
00:31:02,697 --> 00:31:06,250
Pastor Schirmer had
Betty Schirmer cremated.
580
00:31:06,270 --> 00:31:08,208
The body was completely gone.
581
00:31:09,542 --> 00:31:12,417
But in this case we were
able to take that CAT scan,
582
00:31:12,437 --> 00:31:13,688
and do what's called a
583
00:31:13,708 --> 00:31:16,583
three-dimensional
reconstruction,
584
00:31:16,603 --> 00:31:18,188
and they reconstructed,
585
00:31:18,208 --> 00:31:21,052
and created images
of Betty's head.
586
00:31:21,072 --> 00:31:23,917
And lo and behold,
when we did that,
587
00:31:23,937 --> 00:31:25,855
we're able to examine the scalp,
588
00:31:25,875 --> 00:31:29,000
and I noticed that there
were two lacerations
589
00:31:29,020 --> 00:31:30,500
over the right side of the head.
590
00:31:33,750 --> 00:31:36,500
In Jewel Schirmer, we
have two lacerations
591
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:38,125
to the right side of the head,
592
00:31:38,145 --> 00:31:39,750
and one to the back of the head.
593
00:31:39,770 --> 00:31:41,375
They were very similar,
594
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,125
and that was sort of
the connecting point.
595
00:31:46,750 --> 00:31:48,250
We have two deaths,
596
00:31:48,270 --> 00:31:49,375
two wives,
597
00:31:50,542 --> 00:31:52,522
same husband,
598
00:31:52,542 --> 00:31:55,292
and both from a similar object.
599
00:31:57,042 --> 00:32:00,355
I have pure scientific
evidence showing
600
00:32:00,375 --> 00:32:05,333
that I have a reproducibility
of the same mechanism
601
00:32:06,292 --> 00:32:08,625
that caused the injuries
to Jewel Schirmer
602
00:32:08,645 --> 00:32:09,875
to Betty Schirmer.
603
00:32:13,500 --> 00:32:16,397
After my conversation
with Dr. Wayne Ross,
604
00:32:16,417 --> 00:32:19,125
I was convinced that I had
two murders on my hands.
605
00:32:28,125 --> 00:32:30,833
Betty Schirmer's death
was ruled an accident
606
00:32:30,853 --> 00:32:32,417
from a motor vehicle collision.
607
00:32:34,875 --> 00:32:36,958
We had to go back and
get the manner of death
608
00:32:36,978 --> 00:32:39,333
changed from
accident to homicide.
609
00:32:42,542 --> 00:32:45,417
And the information that
I got in Jewel's case
610
00:32:45,437 --> 00:32:47,792
prompted me to contact
the authorities
611
00:32:47,812 --> 00:32:50,167
in Lebanon to reopen
that investigation.
612
00:32:53,875 --> 00:32:55,147
The detective
told me, he said,
613
00:32:55,167 --> 00:32:56,917
"I don't think your
sister had a heart attack
614
00:32:56,937 --> 00:32:58,855
and fell down the steps."
615
00:32:58,875 --> 00:33:02,105
And I basically said,
"Yeah, no kidding."
616
00:33:02,125 --> 00:33:05,083
I said, "What's going
on up in Monroe County?"
617
00:33:06,917 --> 00:33:08,292
And all the detective
would tell me, he said,
618
00:33:08,312 --> 00:33:11,397
"I think A.B. Schirmer's life
619
00:33:11,417 --> 00:33:14,333
is gonna get very
complicated very shortly."
620
00:33:29,083 --> 00:33:31,052
The Lebanon County
District Attorney's office
621
00:33:31,072 --> 00:33:33,276
really wanted to know
about Jewel Schirmer,
622
00:33:33,296 --> 00:33:35,500
'cause everybody was
in the dark about that.
623
00:33:37,083 --> 00:33:39,583
There were various aspects
of this case that upset me.
624
00:33:39,603 --> 00:33:41,625
Why didn't we resolve
these things earlier?
625
00:33:43,208 --> 00:33:45,156
We want the right answers.
626
00:33:45,176 --> 00:33:47,125
We want to get justice.
627
00:33:55,583 --> 00:33:59,500
Sometimes you gotta have
a forehead of flint,
628
00:34:00,292 --> 00:34:02,313
you just gotta hang in there,
629
00:34:02,333 --> 00:34:05,147
because that is the
right thing to do.
630
00:34:05,167 --> 00:34:08,136
And if you're going to
change the manner of death,
631
00:34:08,156 --> 00:34:11,125
you better have the physical
evidence to back it up.
632
00:34:12,500 --> 00:34:15,083
And I'm thinking, let's
reconstruct this scene
633
00:34:15,103 --> 00:34:16,480
and find out if in fact,
634
00:34:16,500 --> 00:34:18,542
Mr. Schirmer's telling
the truth or not.
635
00:34:20,042 --> 00:34:23,240
The idea of tossing dummies
down a flight of steps
636
00:34:23,260 --> 00:34:26,458
was my way of doing the
crime scene reconstruction
637
00:34:26,478 --> 00:34:29,167
that I wanted to
do back in 1999.
638
00:34:31,708 --> 00:34:34,250
We went back out to the
original crime scene
639
00:34:34,270 --> 00:34:35,897
where Jewel Schirmer had died,
640
00:34:35,917 --> 00:34:38,719
and we had a series
of six dummies
641
00:34:38,739 --> 00:34:42,234
that were also
chalked up with chalk.
642
00:34:42,254 --> 00:34:45,750
When the head or the
body hits, right?
643
00:34:45,770 --> 00:34:48,355
The chalk gets wiped off.
644
00:34:48,375 --> 00:34:50,542
And that tells us
there's an impact there.
645
00:34:52,292 --> 00:34:56,292
We analyze that
impact in the context
646
00:34:56,312 --> 00:34:59,147
of the injuries to her head.
647
00:34:59,167 --> 00:35:02,188
We look to see if
it lines up at all.
648
00:35:02,208 --> 00:35:06,875
And as these dummies
went down fairly violent,
649
00:35:06,895 --> 00:35:09,125
the head strikes and it stops.
650
00:35:09,145 --> 00:35:10,583
The body keeps going.
651
00:35:11,292 --> 00:35:12,907
And as that body keeps going,
652
00:35:12,927 --> 00:35:14,522
you got the neck in between,
653
00:35:14,542 --> 00:35:17,708
that thing's going to
is gonna kink and break.
654
00:35:20,083 --> 00:35:23,208
Jewel Schirmer never
had a neck injury,
655
00:35:24,083 --> 00:35:26,010
never had a rib fracture,
656
00:35:26,030 --> 00:35:28,005
never had a spinal fracture,
657
00:35:28,025 --> 00:35:29,980
never had a pelvic fracture.
658
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,594
We had physical
evidence, physical proof.
659
00:35:32,614 --> 00:35:35,208
She did not fall down
that flight of steps.
660
00:35:35,228 --> 00:35:37,250
You look at the rest
of the evidence,
661
00:35:37,270 --> 00:35:39,375
and it's obvious, it's staged.
662
00:35:41,750 --> 00:35:43,730
So, I amended my report.
663
00:35:43,750 --> 00:35:47,583
Coroner reissued a death
certificate for Jewel Schirmer,
664
00:35:48,708 --> 00:35:51,375
saying that the manner
of death was a homicide.
665
00:35:54,708 --> 00:35:58,625
And that kept the ball rolling
in this particular case.
666
00:36:12,875 --> 00:36:16,583
Once it was ruled out that
Betty Schirmer's injuries
667
00:36:16,603 --> 00:36:19,333
were sustained in
the car accident,
668
00:36:19,353 --> 00:36:22,063
we took the next
steps to determine
669
00:36:22,083 --> 00:36:25,167
where did these injuries
occur, what location?
670
00:36:25,187 --> 00:36:26,605
It made most sense to us that
671
00:36:26,625 --> 00:36:28,855
that would've occurred
at the parsonage
672
00:36:28,875 --> 00:36:32,292
where Betty and A.B. had
lived during their marriage.
673
00:36:34,833 --> 00:36:38,208
Mr. Schirmer, he doesn't know
that we're onto him at all.
674
00:36:38,228 --> 00:36:41,042
He still thinks he got
away with this crash.
675
00:36:41,062 --> 00:36:43,188
I needed to go get
a search warrant
676
00:36:43,208 --> 00:36:45,542
to locate the actual
crime scene at that point.
677
00:36:46,917 --> 00:36:49,542
I wanted the element of
surprise when we hit Schirmer.
678
00:36:54,958 --> 00:36:56,792
(intense music)
679
00:36:58,375 --> 00:37:01,083
During my investigation
of Betty's crash,
680
00:37:01,103 --> 00:37:03,647
I noticed that there's
blood drops
681
00:37:03,667 --> 00:37:06,250
in the seat
that are absorbed or diluted,
682
00:37:07,042 --> 00:37:09,458
as if her body was placed in it.
683
00:37:10,833 --> 00:37:13,333
That told me immediately
that she was bleeding prior
684
00:37:13,353 --> 00:37:14,897
to getting in that car.
685
00:37:14,917 --> 00:37:17,417
And there was a blood
leading event somewhere
686
00:37:17,437 --> 00:37:18,708
that we had to go find.
687
00:37:21,375 --> 00:37:24,417
I had to go and look
at where she came from.
688
00:37:24,437 --> 00:37:26,896
I knew they lived
in the parsonage.
689
00:37:26,916 --> 00:37:29,375
So, myself and my
investigative team,
690
00:37:29,395 --> 00:37:31,605
we are forming a strategy
691
00:37:31,625 --> 00:37:34,708
to execute a search
warrant on the parsonage.
692
00:37:38,833 --> 00:37:42,531
I remember when I walked
in the garage area,
693
00:37:42,551 --> 00:37:46,250
I could see blood
visibly on the concrete
694
00:37:46,270 --> 00:37:49,897
as if he missed
it during cleanup.
695
00:37:49,917 --> 00:37:53,636
There's still potentially
blood evidence present,
696
00:37:53,656 --> 00:37:57,375
and we utilize the chemical
luminol to help enhance
697
00:37:57,395 --> 00:37:59,125
and to help better
see that blood
698
00:37:59,145 --> 00:38:00,875
that we can't see
with the naked eye.
699
00:38:02,417 --> 00:38:06,875
You can start to see that
mysterious blood appear
700
00:38:06,895 --> 00:38:08,092
in the darkness.
701
00:38:08,958 --> 00:38:10,313
Once I find this,
702
00:38:10,333 --> 00:38:12,594
this story tells me
that Betty was assaulted
703
00:38:12,614 --> 00:38:14,875
somewhere outside the
garage and with some type
704
00:38:14,895 --> 00:38:17,500
of blunt force weapon
such as a crowbar.
705
00:38:19,292 --> 00:38:21,208
She's carried and
brought by Mr. Schirmer
706
00:38:21,228 --> 00:38:22,563
into the car seat,
707
00:38:22,583 --> 00:38:24,542
and that blood
supports all of that.
708
00:38:26,542 --> 00:38:30,958
That was then packaged
and sent to the DNA lab.
709
00:38:30,978 --> 00:38:32,188
Once that was processed,
710
00:38:32,208 --> 00:38:34,500
that blood did come
back to Betty Schirmer.
711
00:38:39,708 --> 00:38:41,147
[Announcer] Police
charged Schirmer Monday
712
00:38:41,167 --> 00:38:43,625
with killing his wife Betty and
trying to cover up the crime
713
00:38:43,645 --> 00:38:46,500
with a Reeders car
accident in July of 2008.
714
00:38:47,792 --> 00:38:52,292
The trial for A.B. Schirmer
commenced in January of 2013.
715
00:38:53,375 --> 00:38:55,938
The prosecution
presented a motive.
716
00:38:55,958 --> 00:38:58,750
During the trial, it came out
that he was having an affair
717
00:38:58,770 --> 00:39:00,708
with someone that
he was counseling.
718
00:39:02,375 --> 00:39:04,375
That's probably why he
killed her right away,
719
00:39:04,395 --> 00:39:06,625
'cause she knew
about the affair.
720
00:39:06,645 --> 00:39:08,855
He killed her, so, she's gone.
721
00:39:08,875 --> 00:39:10,708
He didn't have to
get to the divorce.
722
00:39:13,917 --> 00:39:15,542
[Announcer] Today,
prosecutors told the jury,
723
00:39:15,562 --> 00:39:17,583
"Do not believe
for a minute Betty
724
00:39:17,603 --> 00:39:18,938
was killed in that crash.
725
00:39:18,958 --> 00:39:22,375
Use your common sense
and life experiences."
726
00:39:22,395 --> 00:39:24,522
You have Dr. Wayne Ross,
727
00:39:24,542 --> 00:39:27,438
who clearly is saying
that these two women
728
00:39:27,458 --> 00:39:30,583
have both suffered blunt
force trauma to the head.
729
00:39:31,958 --> 00:39:33,625
I compared the injuries
to Betty Schirmer,
730
00:39:33,645 --> 00:39:35,688
to those of Jewel Schirmer.
731
00:39:35,708 --> 00:39:37,375
[Interviewer] And you've
said they're both homicide
732
00:39:37,395 --> 00:39:38,416
in your opinion?
733
00:39:38,436 --> 00:39:39,458
Yes, they are.
734
00:39:47,500 --> 00:39:48,688
(intense music)
735
00:39:48,708 --> 00:39:52,656
The testimony lasted
into the third week.
736
00:39:52,676 --> 00:39:56,625
The evidence was
overwhelming in our favor.
737
00:39:58,875 --> 00:40:01,750
The jury deliberated for
a short period of time,
738
00:40:01,770 --> 00:40:03,625
and the verdict was guilty.
739
00:40:05,583 --> 00:40:07,105
In March of 2013,
740
00:40:07,125 --> 00:40:10,167
Reverend Schirmer was
sentenced to life in prison
741
00:40:10,187 --> 00:40:11,522
without parole
742
00:40:11,542 --> 00:40:12,875
for Betty Schirmer's death.
743
00:40:17,583 --> 00:40:20,147
My goal was to make
sure he died in prison,
744
00:40:20,167 --> 00:40:23,500
so he could never do this
again to another woman.
745
00:40:25,917 --> 00:40:27,217
And yeah, I was happy.
746
00:40:31,458 --> 00:40:34,375
Ultimately, when
he was convicted,
747
00:40:34,395 --> 00:40:36,188
there was relief.
748
00:40:36,208 --> 00:40:38,177
But even more
important than that,
749
00:40:38,197 --> 00:40:40,167
there was justice
for the family,
750
00:40:40,187 --> 00:40:41,750
friends, neighbors.
751
00:40:43,042 --> 00:40:45,625
I heard about the
vigilance of family members
752
00:40:45,645 --> 00:40:47,605
in the death of Jewel.
753
00:40:47,625 --> 00:40:50,542
They had pushed to
get an autopsy done,
754
00:40:50,562 --> 00:40:52,647
and look at what happened.
755
00:40:52,667 --> 00:40:56,417
It took a long time, but
I believe we got it right.
756
00:41:14,708 --> 00:41:16,719
When Schirmer
killed my sister,
757
00:41:16,739 --> 00:41:18,730
he didn't have a
place to bury her.
758
00:41:18,750 --> 00:41:21,625
So, he asked my father
if he could have a spot
759
00:41:21,645 --> 00:41:22,958
on our family's plot.
760
00:41:25,542 --> 00:41:27,125
He got a double tombstone,
761
00:41:28,208 --> 00:41:30,323
and he had his name in a heart
762
00:41:30,343 --> 00:41:32,078
and my sister's name in a heart.
763
00:41:32,098 --> 00:41:33,833
And he had the hearts touching.
764
00:41:35,042 --> 00:41:36,133
And
765
00:41:37,375 --> 00:41:41,000
that just drove me nuts
every time I saw it.
766
00:41:45,042 --> 00:41:48,917
So, I even told Schirmer
at the sentencing hearing
767
00:41:48,937 --> 00:41:52,542
that my sister was gonna
get a new tombstone,
768
00:41:52,562 --> 00:41:56,396
and his name wasn't
gonna be on it.
769
00:41:56,416 --> 00:42:00,250
And I bought my
sister her very nice,
770
00:42:00,270 --> 00:42:01,833
I feel, very nice tombstone.
771
00:42:12,542 --> 00:42:13,875
After he was sentenced,
772
00:42:14,792 --> 00:42:17,083
I went right to the cemetery
773
00:42:17,103 --> 00:42:18,250
to my sister's grave,
774
00:42:19,708 --> 00:42:22,667
and I just said to Jewel,
"Well, I hope I did well.
775
00:42:22,687 --> 00:42:24,208
I hope you're proud of me.
776
00:42:24,228 --> 00:42:25,750
I did everything I could."
777
00:42:27,500 --> 00:42:30,667
Nothing I was gonna do
was gonna bring her back.
778
00:42:30,687 --> 00:42:33,708
But at least the truth
finally came out,
779
00:42:33,728 --> 00:42:36,000
and justice was done.
780
00:42:38,792 --> 00:42:41,208
I believe my mom, my
dad, and my sister
781
00:42:41,228 --> 00:42:42,467
are in heaven together,
782
00:42:43,875 --> 00:42:44,967
and Schirmer?
783
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:47,750
I don't think he's
gonna make it.
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