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[recording playing]
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This is the story of one
of the most evil
and dangerous criminals
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I have ever prosecuted because
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the person does not at first
appear to be that way.
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He was right there,
and nobody knew.
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[man] I heard what
I thought was,
someone had fired a rifle.
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[gunshot]
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He took a lot away from us.
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Sometimes, I still tell myself
it's not real.
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That that didn't happen.
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I'll never forget
what I have seen.
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You know, it's just disgusting
to think that one man
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has that much power
to do that.
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If he's not a psychopath
or a sociopath,
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we're gonna
have to redefine the term.
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[instrumental music playing]
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[Amy] I did get married young.
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Uh, we met when I was,
we were both 21,
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and got married
when we were 23.
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So we still had a couple more
years of college left
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until we both graduated
in 1995.
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And then we moved into
northwest Arkansas after that.
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We went up there so that
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my husband could work
as a police officer.
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[indistinct conversation
on radio]
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I didn't even get to see
Rogers itself
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before we moved there.
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I had no idea
what we were moving to.
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So I was having
a culture shock.
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We had a lot of churches
on many corners.
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And things just sort of
shut down on Sundays.
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It was pretty much
a very conservative,
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conventional, quiet
sort of place.
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In 1997,
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I was happy being a teacher.
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I loved my students.
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You know,
Andrew being a police officer,
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and I was a teacher,
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you know, it just
kind of seemed idyllic.
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Until that day.
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[ominous music playing]
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I went to school
on that Sunday morning
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probably about 9:30 or so,
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wearing sweatpants
and a t-shirt,
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you know, long sleeve shirt.
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The classroom that
we were using was basically
two classrooms
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with the wall knocked down
in the middle.
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So it was a large classroom,
had two doors.
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Um, I had both doors locked.
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I knew people were going
to church in the cafeteria,
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and I didn't wanna
disrupt them.
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I also didn't wanna invite
any disruptions.
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So, um, you know,
I just kind of worked quietly
in my locked classroom.
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And I guess it was about,
I don't know, 10:30 or so.
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I had been there
a little while.
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I hear a rattle
of the door handle,
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you know, one of the doors
of my classroom,
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and I waited a few minutes
and then I kind of peeked
out the door,
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and I didn't see anybody
so I closed the door back.
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And a little while later,
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I decided I needed
to go to the restroom,
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so I went out
one of the classroom doors,
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and just probably,
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15-20 feet to the corridor,
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I turned to go
into the teachers' lounge.
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Went to the bathroom,
and the lounge was...
bathrooms were set up in a way
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that they were
self-contained.
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Two self-contained stalls
and had a full-on door.
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So, when I was coming
out of the bathroom,
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there he was,
with a gun in my face.
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Now, he was wearing a ski cap
and sunglasses
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and so, really, the only
facial features
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that I could make out
was from here down.
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So I got a pretty good
look at him at the time,
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but, you know, the shock
of having a gun in your face,
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it was very jarring
and unsettling.
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The guy had a gun.
I thought maybe
I was gonna die.
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All I could think was,
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I'm just gonna do
whatever I need to do
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to get out of this situation
and go home.
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He told me to back up
into the bathroom.
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He had me take off
some of my clothes
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and, uh, was telling me
what to do to him.
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After that, he decided
to take me
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to, um, another classroom
that was next
to the teachers' lounge.
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And that's where
he continued to rape me.
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I just kept thinking
this is terrifying.
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I'm angry with this guy.
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There weren't complete
thoughts being created.
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It was just sort of a gut,
animalistic feeling.
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Felt like forever
but I'm guessing
that probably
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it was only a couple
of minutes in real time.
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He just stood up real quick
and said, "Don't go anywhere.
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You stay right here.
Don't come out until I leave."
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I just was in panic.
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I thought,
"I need to find somebody.
I need to get to safety."
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I did run across the custodian
and all I could say was,
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"I need to call the police.
I've been attacked."
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[recording playing]
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[operator] Ma'am. Okay.
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[Hayes] So it was a Sunday
morning. I was at home.
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Pager goes off,
and it was a 911 page.
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You know? Like,
"Don't dilly-dally,
call me right away."
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And it was
to the main dispatch line.
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Called in. I remember exactly
the dispatch who I talked to.
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She told me Amy Harrison's
been raped at the school.
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And to respond immediately.
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Obviously, I knew who it was.
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Because Amy at the time
was married to a Rogers
police officer.
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-[siren wailing]
-Got in the car
and hauled ass down here.
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We did everything we could
to try to get,
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you know, whatever kind
of forensic evidence
there was.
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You know, there was a rug.
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It was where one
of the assaults
had taken place.
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And we, you know,
took the entire rug.
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The handrails that
went up the stairs,
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where he forced her to go
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for the second part
of the assault.
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We took the entire handrail.
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So we had kind of
a two-pronged approach
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and in that,
you had some detectives,
including myself,
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who were left to process
the crime scene.
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[Amy] I had been moved
to the hospital.
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So that I could get
all of the drugs
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that you have to take
after something
like this happens.
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To prevent
accidental pregnancy.
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To prevent HIV.
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To prevent other sexually
transmitted diseases
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that they had medications for.
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The rape kit.
Get my inspection,
you know.
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All of this happens.
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You know, things I hadn't
thought about yet.
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Here they come.
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[recording playing]
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I tried to pay attention
as much as possible
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to whatever I could
about this person.
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[recording playing]
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No idea why
he wasn't wearing shoes.
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It seemed very odd.
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I didn't hear him come in,
so maybe, you know,
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it was sort of
a subversive technique
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to prevent my awareness
of his approach.
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But, um, it just seemed weird.
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[recording playing]
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He had actually asked
if I recognized his voice.
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Which made me, obviously,
really wonder,
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you know,
did I know this person?
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But I could not... place him
anywhere in my mind.
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And it was terrifying.
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One of the things that was
very evident throughout
her statement
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was the lengths
at which he went
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to conceal his identity,
not touch things.
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And be careful with fluids
and other biological evidence
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that he left behind.
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And at one point
during the assault,
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Amy felt a liquid
on her leg.
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And just instinctively,
I think, probably,
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wiped it off with her hand
and just wiped it across
her shirt.
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[Amy] It was not
a conscious thing for me
to wipe away his semen.
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I was definitely disgusted.
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I didn't want him on me.
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And he immediately says,
"What was that?
What did you do?"
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If she hadn't done that
one thing, we never would
have gotten his DNA.
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As we're discussing theories,
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you know, it did come up
at the time,
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of how would a person
like this know
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that much about what we did
to collect evidence?
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They sent it
to the state crime lab,
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and like they do
with all known samples,
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they ran it through their
CODIS database
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to see if there was a match
with anyone already
in the system.
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But no match.
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[Amy] I had
to kind of temper my hope.
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I thought that
the chances that
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the person would already
be in the system
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with the DNA profile already
was probably low.
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Um, when they were gonna be
testing people that were
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involved in my life,
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you know, um, at the school
and in the community,
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I was hopeful.
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Law enforcement, police,
they really pushed hard
and fast.
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And they went wide
and they really
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were open to any information
and testing that information
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to see if they could
figure out who the guy was.
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Amy was able to provide
this intense level of detail.
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And we had a sketch
done with a kit
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that had transparent
slides in it
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of different facial features.
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"Amy, is this chin him?" "No."
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And you do that for the nose.
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And the eyes, the ears,
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the forehead, the general
shape of the face.
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So we had a pretty good
description of this guy
from Amy,
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and then,
one of the church-goers
that day
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told us they witnessed a guy
that matched that description,
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uh, walking away
from the school
and leaving in a vehicle.
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Which was a blue
pick-up truck.
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We were able to have
Little Rock, the headquarters
down there,
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run a search
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for every vehicle
registered in Benton County
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that matched the criteria
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of this possible
suspect vehicle.
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And then so,
late into the night,
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we got word
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that one
of the detective pairs
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had located the vehicle,
the blue pick-up.
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[Hayes] They found the vehicle
north of town.
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It was parked at a residence
and the owner was home.
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So detectives were able
to talk with him.
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And it was very obvious
and very clear
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that the man
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who owned that vehicle,
was driving that vehicle,
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uh, was not
the suspect.
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He was an older man.
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Um, way beyond the age
of the range given, you know,
for the suspect.
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So we were able to rule out
any connection to the crime
right away.
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So it kind of, you know,
it sucked the wind out
of your sails a little bit,
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'cause you think you have
a, you know, a solid lead,
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and then, uh,
we find it, and it,
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it kind of washed out
and didn't work, so.
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You know, that's the way
things just kind of went
for the next several leads.
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[Amy] I couldn't even
say the word 'rape'.
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I couldn't say the word
'rape' for a long time.
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You hear about a woman
being raped,
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and you think,
"Oh, that's just so awful."
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"Poor thing. How is she
gonna get over this?"
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And I didn't wanna
be that person.
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The fact that it had happened
to me was bad enough.
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But then, to communicate
in a single word,
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what had happened to me,
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to someone else,
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was very real.
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And, um, you know,
comes with a whole
basket load of emotions.
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[Judy] It's almost as though
those times are blank.
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There was shock
and everyone was
so upset and disturbed.
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[Amy] When my husband
found out what happened
to me,
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he was really angry
and hurt.
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And being a police officer,
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how frustrating, you know?
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He's the guy that
helps to solve the crime.
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That locks
the bad guy up.
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And it's his own wife.
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You almost can't avoid having
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this event having
an emotional impact.
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Uh, sexual impact.
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That was, for both of us,
the kiss of death
on our marriage.
247
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You know, I mean, sometimes,
I just needed a hug.
248
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Sometimes, I... [sniffles]
just needed space.
249
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Sometimes I needed to just
scream in a pillow
250
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and beat something up
with a bat.
251
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But, you know, reality is,
252
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I can only stay gone
from teaching for so long
253
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before I had to get back
to work.
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I had students
to deal with,
255
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you know,
some of whom had,
256
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if not outright knowledge,
257
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some idea that I had
been through something
that was bad.
258
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They tested
hundreds of people.
259
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And things just weren't
coming back.
260
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There was no match.
261
00:15:25,825 --> 00:15:30,530
As time went on,
I... really had to come
to terms
262
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with the fact that my case
263
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might be one that
was never solved.
264
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[Hayes] Weren't, you know,
a lot of leads coming in.
265
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You know, it felt like
the case was worked
266
00:15:50,017 --> 00:15:52,319
to the level that
we could at the time.
267
00:15:54,587 --> 00:15:56,689
You know, this case
happened in 1997, right?
268
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And the laws of the state
were very different then.
269
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And there's something called
a statute of limitations.
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00:16:02,162 --> 00:16:04,031
And basically what
that means is that
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after a certain
length of time,
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00:16:06,399 --> 00:16:08,735
that case can no longer
be prosecuted, okay?
273
00:16:08,768 --> 00:16:11,404
And it starts when
law enforcement finds out
about the case, right?
274
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So, on the day that this
happened, the clock starts
ticking for us,
275
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and rape in Arkansas
is a Class Y felony,
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and in 1997,
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there was a law in the books
that said
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all Class Y felonies
have a statute of limitations
of six years.
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Meaning that
in six years,
280
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if we did not bring this case
to a closure,
281
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or have an active warrant
for the suspect,
282
00:16:34,627 --> 00:16:37,664
then we could not prosecute
him, even if we found out
who it was.
283
00:16:39,532 --> 00:16:41,068
I thought there was no way
284
00:16:41,101 --> 00:16:44,304
that this guy wasn't
out there hurting
other people.
285
00:16:44,337 --> 00:16:46,339
And as time went on,
286
00:16:46,373 --> 00:16:51,078
and DNA collection continued
to be a developing thing,
287
00:16:51,111 --> 00:16:53,080
and the technology
was developing
288
00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:55,282
and getting better and better
and more specific,
289
00:16:55,315 --> 00:16:57,784
I was very surprised that
things weren't coming up.
290
00:16:57,817 --> 00:17:01,588
Either this guy was really
good and just wouldn't
get caught,
291
00:17:01,621 --> 00:17:05,157
or this was some sort
of anomaly,
292
00:17:05,192 --> 00:17:07,194
and I was just out of luck.
293
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Never gonna know.
294
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Fast forward to 2003.
295
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You know,
there was a lot of talk
296
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about that statute
of limitations running on us
297
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in November of that year,
and what are we gonna do
about it?
298
00:17:26,813 --> 00:17:29,882
And, uh, about that
same time,
299
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Wisconsin kind of pioneered
what's called a John Doe
DNA warrant.
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00:17:34,721 --> 00:17:37,290
And the premise of it is,
is that,
301
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you know, in a case
like Amy's, you know,
302
00:17:39,259 --> 00:17:42,729
the sexual assault happens
and you have
biological evidence
303
00:17:42,762 --> 00:17:44,697
that can be basically
be narrowed down
304
00:17:44,731 --> 00:17:46,533
to one human being
on the planet, right?
305
00:17:46,566 --> 00:17:48,034
Through DNA testing.
306
00:17:48,135 --> 00:17:52,205
That that is enough
to identify that person
as a suspect
307
00:17:52,239 --> 00:17:55,542
and you could then
issue a warrant
308
00:17:55,575 --> 00:17:59,045
for a person with the matching
DNA of, you know,
309
00:17:59,146 --> 00:18:00,580
put the sequence out there
310
00:18:00,613 --> 00:18:02,482
on the actual warrant.
311
00:18:02,515 --> 00:18:06,386
And therefore, you stop
the statute of limitations.
312
00:18:06,419 --> 00:18:08,155
As time went on,
313
00:18:08,188 --> 00:18:13,493
that that DNA sample would
still be a viable comparison,
314
00:18:13,526 --> 00:18:15,662
should they be able
to find somebody.
315
00:18:16,763 --> 00:18:18,165
[Hayes] You know,
I typed it out.
316
00:18:18,198 --> 00:18:20,700
Prosecuting attorney's office
approved it.
317
00:18:20,733 --> 00:18:24,504
And we go to the judge,
and uh, he signed it,
318
00:18:24,537 --> 00:18:28,375
which gave us then
an active arrest warrant.
319
00:18:28,408 --> 00:18:32,179
We just had to figure out
who it was that had that DNA.
320
00:18:44,924 --> 00:18:47,827
[Andrew] Gateway is in
northeast Benton County.
321
00:18:47,860 --> 00:18:49,962
We're probably one and a half
miles from the Missouri line.
322
00:18:51,764 --> 00:18:53,533
Still shoot your guns
in the city limits.
323
00:18:54,634 --> 00:18:56,436
But it's quiet.
324
00:19:09,816 --> 00:19:11,518
This is, uh,
the Mayor's office.
325
00:19:12,319 --> 00:19:13,653
[producer] Who's the Mayor?
326
00:19:13,686 --> 00:19:14,821
That should be me.
327
00:19:14,854 --> 00:19:17,224
Gateway, 15 years ago,
328
00:19:17,224 --> 00:19:18,658
we never locked anything.
329
00:19:18,691 --> 00:19:21,027
Violent crime was
almost non-existent.
330
00:19:21,060 --> 00:19:24,597
Unless it's somebody
from somewhere else.
331
00:19:24,631 --> 00:19:26,999
The town has only had
one police officer
332
00:19:27,033 --> 00:19:28,701
probably since its existence.
333
00:19:39,912 --> 00:19:43,683
This is Grant.
This is his senior picture
in high school.
334
00:19:45,318 --> 00:19:48,588
He graduated in '86.
335
00:19:50,056 --> 00:19:53,059
That's when he made constable.
336
00:19:53,092 --> 00:19:57,630
And got his flag
and his badges.
337
00:19:57,664 --> 00:20:02,068
He was very proud
of what he did
and accomplished.
338
00:20:02,101 --> 00:20:06,038
That was our church pictures.
339
00:20:06,072 --> 00:20:11,210
Yes, that was taken about,
oh, six or seven years ago.
340
00:20:12,512 --> 00:20:16,416
I felt like Grant
was my soulmate.
341
00:20:16,449 --> 00:20:19,386
We went to church
every Sunday.
342
00:20:20,019 --> 00:20:22,689
He was a gentleman.
343
00:20:22,722 --> 00:20:25,091
He has been a policeman
344
00:20:25,124 --> 00:20:27,226
ever since I met him.
345
00:20:27,260 --> 00:20:30,263
He was the chief of police.
346
00:20:30,297 --> 00:20:32,999
He was also the constable.
347
00:20:33,032 --> 00:20:36,403
So he took care
of everybody's problems.
348
00:20:38,438 --> 00:20:42,375
He was the only one
that I ever trusted,
349
00:20:43,142 --> 00:20:46,112
as far as men went.
350
00:20:46,145 --> 00:20:49,081
He was always
looking out for me.
351
00:20:49,115 --> 00:20:50,950
Always protecting me.
352
00:20:50,983 --> 00:20:55,054
I had Madison.
She was a miracle baby
353
00:20:55,087 --> 00:20:58,057
'cause I was 46
when I had her.
354
00:21:04,364 --> 00:21:06,599
[Madison] When my dad
was chief of police
at Gateway,
355
00:21:06,633 --> 00:21:09,669
he did stand a little taller,
he was a little prouder.
356
00:21:09,702 --> 00:21:13,340
and it seemed like
he was happier
with that job.
357
00:21:13,340 --> 00:21:15,608
And a lot of people
did respect him
358
00:21:15,642 --> 00:21:17,243
'cause he was very good
at his job.
359
00:21:19,379 --> 00:21:21,013
In the townhall,
360
00:21:21,047 --> 00:21:26,519
they saw that he was
kind of the leader
in that sense,
361
00:21:26,553 --> 00:21:27,754
of the town.
362
00:21:29,389 --> 00:21:31,824
I did think that it was my dad
363
00:21:31,858 --> 00:21:34,994
who would go out everyday
and he would fight
the bad guys
364
00:21:35,027 --> 00:21:37,397
and it was just
really cool to me.
365
00:21:38,931 --> 00:21:41,834
As a little girl,
I was somewhat aware
366
00:21:41,868 --> 00:21:45,137
that, um, my dad's job
was dangerous.
367
00:21:45,171 --> 00:21:46,873
And it did worry me
a little bit,
368
00:21:46,906 --> 00:21:48,140
but for the most part,
369
00:21:48,174 --> 00:21:51,378
I was just looking up
to him and thinking,
370
00:21:51,378 --> 00:21:54,046
"Wow, that's so cool.
My dad's a police officer."
371
00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:56,683
Like, what does your dad do?
[chuckles]
372
00:22:00,587 --> 00:22:03,456
Grant was a big man...
at the time.
373
00:22:03,490 --> 00:22:05,592
He was very muscular.
374
00:22:05,625 --> 00:22:10,397
And he could pretty much
take care of his self.
375
00:22:10,397 --> 00:22:13,199
So he never had anybody
to back him up.
376
00:22:13,933 --> 00:22:16,102
'Cause he worked deep nights.
377
00:22:26,979 --> 00:22:29,849
[John] I have lived in
northwest Arkansas
my entire life.
378
00:22:32,852 --> 00:22:35,655
I run an iron shop,
and then I have a farm
379
00:22:35,688 --> 00:22:37,156
and run cattle as well.
380
00:22:39,626 --> 00:22:41,428
On the day
of this incident,
381
00:22:41,461 --> 00:22:44,196
foreseen nothing
being different
about that day.
382
00:22:48,435 --> 00:22:52,705
I went out to Bella Vista
and finished up an iron fence.
383
00:22:52,739 --> 00:22:55,708
Then I was headed home
and returned off on
Twelve Corners.
384
00:22:55,742 --> 00:22:58,711
Twelve Corners turns
into Gann Ridge,
385
00:22:58,745 --> 00:23:02,449
and within half of a mile
west of the bridge,
386
00:23:02,449 --> 00:23:04,551
I've come up on the first car.
387
00:23:04,584 --> 00:23:08,688
And another 150 yards
probably in front of that car,
388
00:23:08,721 --> 00:23:12,091
or to the east,
was the pick-up.
389
00:23:15,061 --> 00:23:21,200
So probably within 100 yards
after I had passed the truck,
390
00:23:21,233 --> 00:23:24,370
I heard what I thought was
someone had fired a rifle.
391
00:23:24,471 --> 00:23:26,606
-[gunshot]
-[birds screeching]
392
00:23:32,211 --> 00:23:34,180
James Appleton
is our brother.
393
00:23:39,519 --> 00:23:42,689
With us five kids,
we were all together.
394
00:23:42,722 --> 00:23:45,124
-We stayed...
-We were like stick on bread.
395
00:23:47,059 --> 00:23:49,328
And James always came by.
396
00:23:51,397 --> 00:23:55,001
He could be boisterous
at you,
397
00:23:55,034 --> 00:23:57,036
-but still be your friend.
-Yeah.
398
00:23:59,506 --> 00:24:03,710
[Andrew] James' job
was a Gateway
public water operator.
399
00:24:03,743 --> 00:24:07,246
And then he worked
for the city and did
maintenance on the park
400
00:24:07,279 --> 00:24:09,181
and the roads, for the city.
401
00:24:09,215 --> 00:24:13,953
Think James and I worked
together for about three
or four years.
402
00:24:13,986 --> 00:24:16,856
'cause I was down helping
by myself.
403
00:24:16,889 --> 00:24:19,025
And James came out one night
when I was working.
404
00:24:19,058 --> 00:24:22,294
We had a big water main break
and we couldn't find it
so he helped.
405
00:24:22,328 --> 00:24:24,797
And then I said, "Hey,
would you like to have a job?"
406
00:24:24,831 --> 00:24:26,533
And James said yeah,
407
00:24:26,533 --> 00:24:29,435
so Water Board,
they hired him up
and he got his license
408
00:24:29,536 --> 00:24:31,638
and... good employee.
409
00:24:33,272 --> 00:24:34,841
[recording playing]
410
00:24:45,284 --> 00:24:47,219
Uh, well, that was
a unique day.
411
00:24:47,253 --> 00:24:49,421
I remember it being
the end of the day.
412
00:24:49,455 --> 00:24:51,123
And I remember the call
very well.
413
00:24:51,157 --> 00:24:54,060
Came in, and get out there,
to the scene.
414
00:24:54,093 --> 00:24:56,462
And I could see the light
flashing on the truck.
415
00:24:56,563 --> 00:24:58,430
And I can see an individual...
416
00:24:58,464 --> 00:24:59,899
uh, slouched over.
417
00:24:59,932 --> 00:25:02,602
Uh, hands still near
the steering wheel.
418
00:25:03,269 --> 00:25:04,904
Foot on the brake pedal.
419
00:25:04,937 --> 00:25:08,775
It was clear to us that
Mr. Appleton was deceased,
immediately.
420
00:25:12,679 --> 00:25:14,881
So the first thing
we looked for is,
421
00:25:14,914 --> 00:25:16,883
okay, is this a gunshot wound?
422
00:25:16,916 --> 00:25:19,586
Which we were
clearly able to determine that
423
00:25:19,586 --> 00:25:20,920
not only was it
a gunshot wound,
424
00:25:20,953 --> 00:25:23,355
that it was more than likely
a shotgun,
425
00:25:23,389 --> 00:25:25,658
and that it was
more than likely
at close range.
426
00:25:25,692 --> 00:25:27,894
Very quickly, we realized,
427
00:25:27,927 --> 00:25:30,362
uh, from talking to people,
some of the detectives,
428
00:25:30,396 --> 00:25:34,333
uh, that there was
a few witnesses to this.
429
00:25:34,366 --> 00:25:35,267
[recording playing]
430
00:26:03,129 --> 00:26:07,466
[John] So he waved me around
and a... after I passed him,
431
00:26:07,499 --> 00:26:09,501
James was in front
in his pick-up
432
00:26:09,535 --> 00:26:12,972
and he was sitting,
talking on his phone.
433
00:26:13,005 --> 00:26:15,842
James kind of went like...
this, to me, as I went by,
434
00:26:15,875 --> 00:26:17,644
'cause he was on the phone.
435
00:26:17,644 --> 00:26:20,847
And then I passed him
and continued east.
436
00:26:25,151 --> 00:26:26,653
James on the phone,
when he called me,
437
00:26:26,653 --> 00:26:29,221
he says, there's a car
sitting behind me,
438
00:26:29,255 --> 00:26:30,522
and he's not moving.
439
00:26:30,556 --> 00:26:34,360
And then, James says,
"Well, they're easing
on up now."
440
00:26:35,161 --> 00:26:36,663
On up, you know, beside him.
441
00:26:42,034 --> 00:26:43,135
[gunshot]
442
00:26:43,169 --> 00:26:45,171
And then that's when
I heard something like
443
00:26:45,204 --> 00:26:47,674
his truck door slammed.
444
00:26:47,707 --> 00:26:51,678
He had Bluetooth on his truck,
so to me it sounded like
445
00:26:51,678 --> 00:26:54,681
the door slammed.
The car door...
the truck door slammed.
446
00:26:54,681 --> 00:26:56,582
That's what it sounded like
on the phone.
447
00:26:57,917 --> 00:27:03,690
So probably within 100 yards
after I had passed James,
448
00:27:03,690 --> 00:27:04,857
and I was...
449
00:27:08,861 --> 00:27:11,998
[sniffles]
450
00:27:12,031 --> 00:27:14,767
So after I passed James
and probably 100 yards,
451
00:27:14,801 --> 00:27:17,837
I heard what I thought
was someone had fired a rifle.
452
00:27:17,870 --> 00:27:19,271
[gunshot]
453
00:27:21,708 --> 00:27:22,775
[recording playing]
454
00:27:28,380 --> 00:27:30,717
[John] ...he had caught up
with me and turned left.
455
00:27:30,717 --> 00:27:33,619
So when I got up
to the top of the hill
and turned in,
456
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,622
I thought, well, I should
probably go back and check.
457
00:27:37,990 --> 00:27:40,326
So I went up and checked
on James.
458
00:27:46,165 --> 00:27:47,333
[recording playing]
459
00:27:55,574 --> 00:27:59,011
So the police arrived
and then took me to the car
460
00:27:59,045 --> 00:28:00,612
and he says,
well, he says,
461
00:28:00,646 --> 00:28:03,215
being that you found James,
462
00:28:03,249 --> 00:28:07,253
I would like you
to file a report.
463
00:28:07,286 --> 00:28:08,755
I said, "Sure."
464
00:28:08,755 --> 00:28:11,257
He said, "Do you have any idea
who done this?"
465
00:28:12,759 --> 00:28:15,828
So I told the deputy,
I said, "He lives
right up there."
466
00:28:16,595 --> 00:28:17,596
[recording playing]
467
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,836
[Linda] The job made
Grant feel very superior.
468
00:28:56,869 --> 00:29:00,272
He could walk a lot taller
when he got that job.
469
00:29:00,306 --> 00:29:02,108
He thought he was invincible.
470
00:29:02,809 --> 00:29:05,978
He oversteps his authority.
471
00:29:06,012 --> 00:29:09,648
He carried a gun on-duty,
off-duty.
472
00:29:09,681 --> 00:29:13,052
If a car would make him mad,
473
00:29:13,085 --> 00:29:15,855
if he was driving,
he would pull up next to him
474
00:29:15,888 --> 00:29:17,824
and show him his gun.
475
00:29:17,824 --> 00:29:21,560
He was out chasing cars
for no reason.
476
00:29:21,593 --> 00:29:25,932
He was pulling guns
on the citizens here
in Gateway.
477
00:29:25,965 --> 00:29:31,170
And then as time went on,
with him being
the police chief,
478
00:29:31,203 --> 00:29:34,106
things just started
going downhill, fast.
479
00:29:36,608 --> 00:29:38,744
[Andrew] Grant Hardin
took the police car
480
00:29:38,845 --> 00:29:42,348
up on 37, and there was a lot
that was kind of rode up,
481
00:29:42,381 --> 00:29:44,683
with a little bit of brush
and stuff,
482
00:29:44,716 --> 00:29:47,186
and they'd seen somebody
drive in there,
483
00:29:47,219 --> 00:29:49,621
so they drove the cop car
and then they hit a stump
484
00:29:49,655 --> 00:29:51,757
and busted radiator
and some more stuff.
485
00:29:51,858 --> 00:29:54,861
Well, it hit the underneath
and tore some things loose
486
00:29:54,894 --> 00:29:57,296
and he brought it back up here
and told us what had happened
487
00:29:57,329 --> 00:29:59,565
and that James needed
to fix it.
488
00:30:00,166 --> 00:30:02,801
And my brother James said,
489
00:30:02,835 --> 00:30:07,139
"I'm not fixing something that
you all tore up,
for foolishness."
490
00:30:07,173 --> 00:30:09,942
And Grant Hardin,
he just kind of puffed up,
491
00:30:09,976 --> 00:30:11,243
telling me, and I was like,
492
00:30:11,277 --> 00:30:13,412
"You can't tell me
what to do," you know,
or something.
493
00:30:13,445 --> 00:30:14,813
Like he's the man.
494
00:30:14,847 --> 00:30:16,983
Out there in the parking lot,
with James,
495
00:30:17,016 --> 00:30:18,317
he bowed up to him.
496
00:30:18,350 --> 00:30:21,620
So you don't cross me.
I've got the power.
497
00:30:21,653 --> 00:30:23,822
Totally... about power.
498
00:30:23,856 --> 00:30:27,226
And that's when
I think it all started.
499
00:30:27,259 --> 00:30:29,795
From my understanding,
they had some issues
with that.
500
00:30:29,828 --> 00:30:32,431
They had had some words
and it seemed like
501
00:30:32,464 --> 00:30:35,902
from when we talked to people,
they just didn't like
each other.
502
00:30:35,935 --> 00:30:39,972
You know, they had actually
gotten in each other's face
several times.
503
00:30:40,006 --> 00:30:43,275
And, who knows what the level
or intensity there is,
504
00:30:43,309 --> 00:30:44,977
as far as the anger.
505
00:30:45,011 --> 00:30:47,579
Obviously, there was quite
a bit there, you know.
506
00:30:47,613 --> 00:30:49,681
And my wife, she's on
the city council,
507
00:30:49,715 --> 00:30:51,117
so I said, "You guys
need to do something."
508
00:30:51,150 --> 00:30:54,153
I said, "Or you're gonna
get in a bind soon
or something."
509
00:30:54,186 --> 00:30:58,257
The city council made
an offer to him.
510
00:30:58,290 --> 00:31:00,526
Either he resign
or he was gonna get fired.
511
00:31:02,394 --> 00:31:04,796
He harbored
resentment totally.
512
00:31:15,241 --> 00:31:18,177
[news anchor] It was along
this road in early 2017
513
00:31:18,210 --> 00:31:22,248
Sharon's comfortable
corner of the world
was shattered.
514
00:31:22,281 --> 00:31:23,749
[siren wailing]
515
00:31:23,782 --> 00:31:25,184
-[man 1] Heard the shot.
-[reporter] That's when you
heard the shot?
516
00:31:25,217 --> 00:31:26,718
[news anchor] A booming
gunshot
517
00:31:26,752 --> 00:31:29,956
followed by the discovery
of a man dead
518
00:31:29,956 --> 00:31:31,590
in his Gateway work truck.
519
00:31:31,623 --> 00:31:32,959
[Sharon] He was
an awesome brother.
520
00:31:32,959 --> 00:31:34,961
[news anchor] The victim
was James Appleton.
521
00:31:34,961 --> 00:31:36,728
[Sharon] He was just
that type of a brother that
522
00:31:36,762 --> 00:31:38,797
would bend over
to help anybody.
523
00:31:38,830 --> 00:31:40,766
[news anchor] Moments after
the deadly shot,
524
00:31:40,799 --> 00:31:43,735
deputies needed help
finding the suspect.
525
00:31:43,769 --> 00:31:46,238
[suspenseful music playing]
526
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:49,775
[Linda] We were all home.
527
00:31:50,309 --> 00:31:51,810
I was off work.
528
00:31:51,843 --> 00:31:54,613
He, at the time,
didn't have a job.
529
00:31:54,646 --> 00:31:58,284
He was out in the front yard,
doing yard work.
530
00:31:58,317 --> 00:32:01,988
He came in and told us
to get ready
531
00:32:01,988 --> 00:32:04,556
because he was gonna
take us to dinner,
532
00:32:04,590 --> 00:32:07,459
but he said to take our time.
533
00:32:07,493 --> 00:32:11,397
So we were in the house,
taking our time,
534
00:32:11,430 --> 00:32:13,799
and he was out
in the front yard,
535
00:32:13,832 --> 00:32:18,337
and next thing I know,
I see his car leaving.
536
00:32:18,370 --> 00:32:20,306
[Andrew] Only thing
that I could figure out
is just,
537
00:32:20,339 --> 00:32:22,208
James left
Grant Hardin's house.
538
00:32:22,241 --> 00:32:25,144
Hardin, having been outside,
539
00:32:25,177 --> 00:32:28,714
I don't think he had time
to go in and get a gun
and stuff.
540
00:32:28,747 --> 00:32:31,217
So looks to me like that it
was probably in his car,
541
00:32:31,250 --> 00:32:35,387
and then when he seen James
go by, then, he takes out
after him.
542
00:32:35,421 --> 00:32:38,324
We know that
Mr. Hardin was outside,
working in the yard
543
00:32:38,357 --> 00:32:41,027
so it's, you know,
easily could have happened.
544
00:32:41,060 --> 00:32:43,929
So we had figured
Mr. Hardin pulled up the side,
545
00:32:44,030 --> 00:32:47,066
with a shotgun,
and shot Mr. Appleton
546
00:32:47,099 --> 00:32:50,402
point blank, within maybe
five to ten feet away.
547
00:32:50,436 --> 00:32:53,272
-[gunshot]
-You know, and then,
driven off.
548
00:32:56,108 --> 00:33:00,712
[Linda] He was back
in about 10 minutes.
549
00:33:00,746 --> 00:33:03,482
I had no idea
what was up
550
00:33:03,515 --> 00:33:05,284
when Grant came back in.
551
00:33:05,317 --> 00:33:07,053
He was just in a big rush.
552
00:33:07,053 --> 00:33:08,654
He was like,
"I need to go now."
553
00:33:08,687 --> 00:33:12,958
Grant went home,
got his family to get
in another vehicle,
554
00:33:13,059 --> 00:33:14,726
and they go to dinner.
555
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,629
[Madison] I just remember
he kept saying, "I love you,"
"I love you," "I love you"
556
00:33:17,663 --> 00:33:19,365
to both me and my mom.
557
00:33:19,398 --> 00:33:21,667
And he made several statements
to them
558
00:33:21,700 --> 00:33:24,436
that certainly in hindsight...
559
00:33:24,470 --> 00:33:27,506
because he said, "Look,
if we don't see each other
anymore,
560
00:33:27,539 --> 00:33:29,475
just always know that
I love you" and things
like that.
561
00:33:29,508 --> 00:33:33,212
So, looking back, you can see
that he was already working
out in his mind
562
00:33:33,245 --> 00:33:34,946
that, that this was
not gonna work out.
563
00:33:34,980 --> 00:33:36,548
[indistinct chatter]
564
00:33:36,582 --> 00:33:40,652
[Nathan] During that time,
Sheriff's deputies had already
spoken with Mr. Bray
565
00:33:40,686 --> 00:33:43,189
and knew the guy they were
looking for was Grant Hardin.
566
00:33:43,222 --> 00:33:46,192
And so, as they're
still working the scene,
567
00:33:46,225 --> 00:33:48,527
later that afternoon
and evening,
568
00:33:49,095 --> 00:33:50,629
up pulls Mr. Hardin.
569
00:33:50,662 --> 00:33:53,999
[Linda] It was dark,
and they had
the road block up,
570
00:33:54,100 --> 00:33:56,235
um, stopping everybody,
571
00:33:56,268 --> 00:33:57,836
and then when it got to us,
572
00:33:57,869 --> 00:34:00,539
and he told 'em
his name,
573
00:34:00,572 --> 00:34:03,242
they asked him
to step out of the car.
574
00:34:03,275 --> 00:34:07,246
When Mr. Hardin showed back up
at the crime scene, basically,
575
00:34:07,279 --> 00:34:09,815
we took him out of the car,
placed him in handcuffs,
576
00:34:09,848 --> 00:34:11,949
transported him back
to the Sheriff's office.
577
00:34:16,255 --> 00:34:17,856
[recording playing]
578
00:34:19,991 --> 00:34:21,127
[Grant speaking]
579
00:34:35,206 --> 00:34:36,442
[Chamberlin speaking]
580
00:34:46,452 --> 00:34:47,953
[Grant speaking]
581
00:34:49,987 --> 00:34:50,956
[Chamberlin speaking]
582
00:34:56,462 --> 00:34:57,696
[Chamberlin speaking]
583
00:35:11,177 --> 00:35:14,546
Mr. Hardin basically
chose to remain silent.
584
00:35:14,580 --> 00:35:16,415
He did not want
to give a statement.
585
00:35:16,448 --> 00:35:18,217
And, you know what?
That's his right.
586
00:35:18,250 --> 00:35:21,587
But, uh, didn't matter.
We had enough evidence
against him.
587
00:35:21,620 --> 00:35:24,055
[woman speaking]
588
00:35:26,192 --> 00:35:30,061
[Nathan] So I do think we had
a strong case at the time.
589
00:35:30,095 --> 00:35:33,699
One of the ways that we
connected to Mr. Hardin
590
00:35:33,732 --> 00:35:35,701
was through one eye-witness.
591
00:35:35,734 --> 00:35:38,270
So that's the reason for
the investigation to continue
592
00:35:38,304 --> 00:35:40,206
is you want to get as much
evidence as you can.
593
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:42,808
You want to collect
the blood spatter
594
00:35:42,841 --> 00:35:45,377
and the DNA evidence
from Mr. Hardin's car.
595
00:35:45,411 --> 00:35:48,880
The DNA is typically collected
and that's put
into their system
596
00:35:48,914 --> 00:35:50,982
and run through
what they call CODIS.
597
00:35:51,016 --> 00:35:56,222
And run against every other
known DNA offence, uh,
in the country.
598
00:36:05,897 --> 00:36:09,067
I was, uh, on my way
to Nashville.
599
00:36:09,100 --> 00:36:11,537
I was driving,
headed there for a meeting.
600
00:36:11,570 --> 00:36:17,643
And my...
detective...
601
00:36:17,676 --> 00:36:20,679
and he called,
and, uh, he said,
602
00:36:21,247 --> 00:36:23,482
"We got him."
603
00:36:23,515 --> 00:36:25,917
I'm like, "Are you saying
what I think you're
saying, Dave?"
604
00:36:26,552 --> 00:36:28,654
"We [bleep] got him."
605
00:36:28,687 --> 00:36:31,590
And he goes, "You're never
gonna [bleep] believe
who it was."
606
00:36:31,623 --> 00:36:33,592
And says it was Grant Hardin.
607
00:36:36,595 --> 00:36:38,029
And then I was just like,
608
00:36:38,063 --> 00:36:39,398
"Grant Hardin, Grant Hardin,
Grant Hardin.
609
00:36:39,431 --> 00:36:42,334
Wait a second. The name
sounds so familiar."
He goes,
610
00:36:42,368 --> 00:36:44,770
"Gateway chief of police,"
and I was just like,
611
00:36:45,437 --> 00:36:47,105
"You're [bleep] kidding me."
612
00:36:47,138 --> 00:36:50,842
[Nathan] I remember
at the time, there was
zero connection
613
00:36:50,876 --> 00:36:54,446
that Grant Hardin had
to Amy Harrison,
to the school,
614
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:56,615
to anything like that,
so it's not as if
615
00:36:56,648 --> 00:36:58,116
he had been a suspect
or anything.
616
00:36:58,149 --> 00:37:01,119
But when you find out
that his DNA hit,
617
00:37:01,152 --> 00:37:02,754
it is certainly a shock.
618
00:37:02,788 --> 00:37:03,989
It almost knocks you
off your feet.
619
00:37:04,022 --> 00:37:04,990
[cell phone ringing]
620
00:37:05,023 --> 00:37:08,694
I got a call
from one of the detectives
621
00:37:08,727 --> 00:37:10,296
at Rogers Police Department.
622
00:37:10,329 --> 00:37:12,531
He said that they
had a suspect.
623
00:37:12,564 --> 00:37:16,001
And I jumped up
in the middle of my
living room,
624
00:37:16,034 --> 00:37:17,836
off the couch, you know.
625
00:37:17,869 --> 00:37:21,039
Just... in disbelief.
I couldn't believe it.
626
00:37:21,072 --> 00:37:26,378
When I went through the array
of driver's license photos
from 1997,
627
00:37:26,412 --> 00:37:28,314
and it was 2018 at the time,
628
00:37:28,314 --> 00:37:30,115
you know, after 21 years,
629
00:37:30,148 --> 00:37:32,551
and I just put my thumb over
630
00:37:32,584 --> 00:37:35,687
each driver's license head,
631
00:37:35,721 --> 00:37:38,390
you know, so that I could
see from the nose down.
632
00:37:38,424 --> 00:37:42,561
And out of like,
nine, 12 faces,
633
00:37:42,594 --> 00:37:43,995
I was able to pick his out.
634
00:37:46,097 --> 00:37:48,867
Having seen half his face
21 years earlier,
635
00:37:48,900 --> 00:37:50,336
she picked the [bleep] out.
636
00:37:51,703 --> 00:37:54,039
If that's not attention
to detail, I don't know
what is.
637
00:37:56,375 --> 00:37:58,344
[Amy] Back then,
I felt like
638
00:37:58,344 --> 00:38:00,346
the guy was
in law enforcement.
639
00:38:00,346 --> 00:38:03,114
Just by the way he moved
and his mannerisms.
640
00:38:03,148 --> 00:38:05,384
And this guy
was a police chief
641
00:38:05,417 --> 00:38:06,818
in a very small community.
642
00:38:06,852 --> 00:38:08,487
So, I had been right.
643
00:38:09,921 --> 00:38:14,793
But I didn't know
Grant Hardin at all.
644
00:38:14,826 --> 00:38:19,365
I actually saw him
for the first time
in the sentencing hearing.
645
00:38:19,365 --> 00:38:22,534
That was the first time
I had seen his physical...
646
00:38:24,102 --> 00:38:26,004
face, since that event.
647
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:32,177
When this happened
20 years ago,
648
00:38:32,210 --> 00:38:33,445
we were married.
649
00:38:35,113 --> 00:38:37,883
He was a policeman,
so he knew
650
00:38:38,450 --> 00:38:39,785
how to get away.
651
00:38:39,818 --> 00:38:43,254
Because he went in
in his stocking feet,
652
00:38:43,288 --> 00:38:45,791
so they couldn't get
shoe prints.
653
00:38:45,824 --> 00:38:49,027
He would have gotten away
with raping her
654
00:38:49,060 --> 00:38:51,663
if he had not
murdered this guy.
655
00:38:53,399 --> 00:38:55,934
I sat in meetings
with that [bleep].
656
00:38:55,967 --> 00:38:58,136
I sat across the table
from that guy.
657
00:38:59,738 --> 00:39:01,540
Don't remember ever
shaking his hand.
658
00:39:01,573 --> 00:39:03,041
I hope I didn't.
659
00:39:03,074 --> 00:39:05,210
Think about that
and think,
660
00:39:05,243 --> 00:39:08,614
"He was right there
and nobody knew."
661
00:39:09,881 --> 00:39:12,718
[Hayes] He had to know
who I was.
662
00:39:12,751 --> 00:39:15,954
And my involvement
in the rape that he'd
committed 20 years earlier.
663
00:39:15,987 --> 00:39:17,556
He had to know.
664
00:39:17,589 --> 00:39:20,091
If he's not a psychopath
or a sociopath,
665
00:39:20,125 --> 00:39:21,627
we're gonna
have to re-define the terms
666
00:39:21,660 --> 00:39:23,695
because how on Earth
667
00:39:23,729 --> 00:39:28,700
can you know that
you have raped a woman,
668
00:39:28,734 --> 00:39:31,770
that DNA evidence
was obtained,
669
00:39:31,803 --> 00:39:35,541
and yet still go to these
meetings and still do
what he did?
670
00:39:35,574 --> 00:39:42,080
I mean, I think it represents
just an unbelievable
narcissism on his part,
671
00:39:42,113 --> 00:39:45,283
that he would
parade himself
672
00:39:45,316 --> 00:39:48,820
as, you know,
the great protector
of the public,
673
00:39:48,854 --> 00:39:52,257
when in reality, uh,
he was the greatest threat.
674
00:39:54,926 --> 00:39:56,762
[news anchor] Hardin
pleaded guilty to the rape.
675
00:39:56,795 --> 00:39:59,465
The man who worked
as a police officer,
676
00:39:59,465 --> 00:40:01,933
a police chief,
a county constable
677
00:40:01,967 --> 00:40:03,469
and a corrections officer,
678
00:40:03,502 --> 00:40:05,804
was now on the wrong
side of the law.
679
00:40:09,941 --> 00:40:11,777
[Linda] I remember
him walking away
680
00:40:12,511 --> 00:40:14,980
and he had his head down
681
00:40:15,013 --> 00:40:17,949
as they took him out.
I just cried.
682
00:40:18,884 --> 00:40:20,652
I couldn't stop crying.
683
00:40:25,156 --> 00:40:27,926
Here we are,
with Chief Hayes Minor,
684
00:40:27,959 --> 00:40:29,160
a photo of him.
685
00:40:30,395 --> 00:40:31,530
[laughs]
686
00:40:31,563 --> 00:40:34,165
The news conference
after the sentencing hearing.
687
00:40:34,199 --> 00:40:37,803
You know, this, um,
this really drove home,
688
00:40:37,836 --> 00:40:39,838
you know, for me personally,
689
00:40:39,871 --> 00:40:43,274
um, the impact that a crime
like this can have
690
00:40:43,308 --> 00:40:45,376
on a person, a family.
691
00:40:48,213 --> 00:40:49,815
[Amy] He was
pretty excited.
692
00:40:50,916 --> 00:40:52,984
There's a photo of me
hugging the prosecutor.
693
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:57,989
[news anchor] Teacher from
1997, Amy Harrison,
694
00:40:58,023 --> 00:41:00,125
spoke to a crowd of media
695
00:41:00,158 --> 00:41:02,861
after learning of Hardin's
guilty plea.
696
00:41:02,894 --> 00:41:07,699
I don't know... I'm not sure
that forgiveness is the right
word that I could use.
697
00:41:07,733 --> 00:41:11,102
I guess, just, um, settled.
698
00:41:17,543 --> 00:41:21,079
I felt for Amy very much.
699
00:41:24,550 --> 00:41:25,951
[voice trembling]
I felt bad for her.
700
00:41:26,552 --> 00:41:28,319
I wanted to talk to her.
701
00:41:28,854 --> 00:41:30,556
But I just couldn't.
702
00:41:31,957 --> 00:41:33,191
I just couldn't.
703
00:41:35,927 --> 00:41:40,265
I felt glad that they had
found the person that
did this to her.
704
00:41:41,166 --> 00:41:43,569
But in the meantime too,
705
00:41:43,569 --> 00:41:47,105
I felt sad that it took
my brother's life
706
00:41:47,138 --> 00:41:50,175
to find this person
that did this.
707
00:41:50,208 --> 00:41:53,144
It took my brother
to get his DNA.
708
00:41:55,947 --> 00:42:00,185
I do feel like my dad
did take something
from all three families.
709
00:42:00,218 --> 00:42:03,855
Especially from
the Appleton family.
710
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:12,397
You know, it's just disgusting
to think that one man has that
much power to do that.
711
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:18,103
I think Grant took every step
he could take
712
00:42:18,904 --> 00:42:21,172
to commit the perfect crime.
713
00:42:21,206 --> 00:42:23,809
Uh, except he did not count
on Amy Harrison.
56589
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