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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,331 --> 00:00:02,760 (phone vibrating) 2 00:00:02,760 --> 00:00:04,930 - [Sean] 91 million of us worldwide 3 00:00:04,930 --> 00:00:06,613 search for love online. 4 00:00:07,980 --> 00:00:09,710 - She was looking for love. 5 00:00:09,710 --> 00:00:11,260 - She wanted someone that would 6 00:00:11,260 --> 00:00:13,910 give her the freedom to be herself. 7 00:00:13,910 --> 00:00:16,520 - He looked like a normal, nice guy. 8 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:18,311 (intense music) 9 00:00:18,311 --> 00:00:19,490 (radio chatter) 10 00:00:19,490 --> 00:00:22,885 - [Sean] But internet dating can be a dangerous game. 11 00:00:22,885 --> 00:00:24,520 (suspenseful music) 12 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:26,520 - [Female] The mother of two small boys 13 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:28,713 reported missing early Sunday morning. 14 00:00:29,770 --> 00:00:32,120 - [Sean] In the U.K. alone, crime linked 15 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:37,120 to online dating has risen 450% over five years. 16 00:00:37,270 --> 00:00:39,700 - This is a predator's paradise. 17 00:00:39,700 --> 00:00:41,320 - It's that dark side of the web 18 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:43,260 that people don't realize exists. 19 00:00:43,260 --> 00:00:45,760 - [Sean] These are the real life love stories 20 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:47,590 that ended in tragedy. 21 00:00:47,590 --> 00:00:49,563 - Each day, she was living in fear. 22 00:00:50,550 --> 00:00:52,580 - I knew that he was no angel, 23 00:00:52,580 --> 00:00:54,890 but he really had me tricked. 24 00:00:54,890 --> 00:00:56,890 - [Sean] So how well do you really know 25 00:00:56,890 --> 00:00:59,000 the person you're dating? 26 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:02,621 - She didn't stand a chance against that monster of a man. 27 00:01:02,621 --> 00:01:05,454 (camera whirring) 28 00:01:06,622 --> 00:01:09,372 (dramatic music) 29 00:01:40,211 --> 00:01:42,794 (mellow music) 30 00:01:55,110 --> 00:01:57,213 - Yavapai County is very unique. 31 00:01:59,710 --> 00:02:01,980 We have approximately 140 sworn officers 32 00:02:01,980 --> 00:02:04,803 that patrol over 8,000 square miles. 33 00:02:07,610 --> 00:02:11,630 The county itself is a lot of rural, 34 00:02:11,630 --> 00:02:14,313 Western small communities, 35 00:02:15,870 --> 00:02:18,093 15 to 30 miles apart from each other. 36 00:02:19,132 --> 00:02:22,440 (mellow music) 37 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:25,050 Typically the crimes we encounter in these areas 38 00:02:25,050 --> 00:02:29,080 are things like theft 39 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:30,393 and small burglaries. 40 00:02:32,740 --> 00:02:36,310 We experience in the neighborhood of 41 00:02:36,310 --> 00:02:41,310 nine to 12 homicide related investigations a year. 42 00:02:41,530 --> 00:02:43,740 It's not that many, only about one a month. 43 00:02:43,740 --> 00:02:46,323 (mellow music) 44 00:02:48,842 --> 00:02:51,509 (train passing) 45 00:02:53,540 --> 00:02:56,859 (dramatic music) 46 00:02:56,859 --> 00:02:59,410 (phone ringing) 47 00:02:59,410 --> 00:03:01,230 - [Dispatcher] 911, what is your emergency? 48 00:03:01,230 --> 00:03:02,610 - [Robert] My girlfriend shot me. 49 00:03:02,610 --> 00:03:04,110 I'm not gonna make it. 50 00:03:04,110 --> 00:03:05,760 She shot me two times in the chest. 51 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:07,690 - [Dispatcher] Sir, slow down for me. 52 00:03:07,690 --> 00:03:08,660 - [Robert] I got shot like two times. 53 00:03:08,660 --> 00:03:10,639 She shot me two times! 54 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:12,533 I think I'm bleeding to death. 55 00:03:15,690 --> 00:03:18,440 (mournful music) 56 00:03:32,810 --> 00:03:34,590 - My mother was great lady. 57 00:03:34,590 --> 00:03:36,853 She was a very kind woman, 58 00:03:37,707 --> 00:03:41,323 a great mother, super duper grandmother. 59 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:46,330 - Lorraine was very mellow, soft-spoken, 60 00:03:46,330 --> 00:03:49,080 and she was just a really good person 61 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:51,163 that you just couldn't help but like. 62 00:03:52,300 --> 00:03:55,580 - She was maybe a little quiet and a little reserved 63 00:03:55,580 --> 00:03:57,880 but when you actually got to know her, 64 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:00,100 you saw what a sweet woman that she was 65 00:04:00,100 --> 00:04:02,623 and how much she loves her family. 66 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:08,750 She was just a very caring, very warm person, 67 00:04:08,750 --> 00:04:12,540 so full of life, so full of energy. 68 00:04:12,540 --> 00:04:14,800 - [Sean] 62 year old, Lorraine Long, 69 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:17,093 lived and worked in Phoenix, Arizona. 70 00:04:18,810 --> 00:04:22,640 - She was a flight attendant which really surprised me 71 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:24,683 because my mom was afraid of heights. 72 00:04:25,770 --> 00:04:27,160 My mom loved it. 73 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:30,030 She was, she called herself the Hawaii Queen 74 00:04:30,030 --> 00:04:31,760 because whenever she could get 75 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:33,783 a flight to Hawaii, she took it. 76 00:04:35,380 --> 00:04:37,820 - [Sean] Lorraine was married to Garnet Long, 77 00:04:37,820 --> 00:04:40,290 and together they raised their two children 78 00:04:40,290 --> 00:04:42,233 but it was a troubled relationship. 79 00:04:43,730 --> 00:04:47,010 - When we were young, they had kind of a rocky relationship. 80 00:04:47,010 --> 00:04:52,010 My dad was an alcoholic so childhood was a little different. 81 00:04:54,030 --> 00:04:55,750 - [Sean] Despite their difficulties, 82 00:04:55,750 --> 00:04:57,550 the couple purchased a piece of land 83 00:04:57,550 --> 00:04:59,913 in a remote but beautiful corner of the state, 84 00:05:01,530 --> 00:05:03,620 close to the small town of Seligman, 85 00:05:03,620 --> 00:05:05,383 which lies on historic Route 66. 86 00:05:10,260 --> 00:05:11,953 They built a small ranch house, 87 00:05:13,370 --> 00:05:16,493 accessed only by a series of primitive dirt roads. 88 00:05:21,090 --> 00:05:23,420 - My dad bought that as a retirement home 89 00:05:23,420 --> 00:05:25,713 for him, my mom and my grandma. 90 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:30,710 It was out in the boonies and my dad loved it. 91 00:05:30,710 --> 00:05:34,200 I mean, we would put corn feeders out 92 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:37,500 and they would, my mom and him, would sit down on the porch 93 00:05:37,500 --> 00:05:39,910 and watch the deer come. 94 00:05:39,910 --> 00:05:43,358 So it was like a place to go for serenity. 95 00:05:43,358 --> 00:05:46,108 (tranquil music) 96 00:05:47,810 --> 00:05:48,940 - [Sean] But the couple never got 97 00:05:48,940 --> 00:05:51,400 to live out their retirement dreams. 98 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:54,623 Garnet developed cancer and died in 2006. 99 00:05:55,849 --> 00:05:58,599 (mournful music) 100 00:06:06,900 --> 00:06:08,670 Finding herself alone, 101 00:06:08,670 --> 00:06:11,103 Lorraine decided to try online dating. 102 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:17,213 - She just wanted some sort of companionship. 103 00:06:20,017 --> 00:06:21,900 - I think that was her way of 104 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:24,683 getting over her loneliness. 105 00:06:27,170 --> 00:06:28,160 - It sounds to me like Lorraine 106 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:30,410 had been through an awful in her life. 107 00:06:30,410 --> 00:06:31,960 Her husband had been an alcoholic. 108 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:34,310 She'd cared for him, he'd passed away. 109 00:06:34,310 --> 00:06:36,290 Our frame of mind, everything we've been through, 110 00:06:36,290 --> 00:06:38,690 all of that contributes to our decision making 111 00:06:38,690 --> 00:06:40,040 so she was more vulnerable. 112 00:06:41,260 --> 00:06:42,960 - [Sean] At first, Lorraine didn't have 113 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:44,883 much success with online dating. 114 00:06:46,270 --> 00:06:48,410 - She was pulling up some pictures. 115 00:06:48,410 --> 00:06:49,870 I was shocked. 116 00:06:49,870 --> 00:06:51,900 I mean, they were showing genitals 117 00:06:51,900 --> 00:06:53,950 and I'm like (gasping) is that for real? 118 00:06:53,950 --> 00:06:55,360 People really do that? 119 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:57,790 She goes, "Oh yeah, that's nothing." 120 00:06:57,790 --> 00:06:59,747 And I'm like, "Why are you doing that? 121 00:06:59,747 --> 00:07:01,087 "You're so beautiful. 122 00:07:01,087 --> 00:07:02,377 "You fly. 123 00:07:02,377 --> 00:07:06,417 "You see so many people every day on a daily basis. 124 00:07:06,417 --> 00:07:09,457 "You know, why don't you just take a chance 125 00:07:09,457 --> 00:07:11,567 "and get to know somebody, 126 00:07:11,567 --> 00:07:12,667 "'cause anybody can tell you 127 00:07:12,667 --> 00:07:15,964 "what they want you to hear on a computer." 128 00:07:15,964 --> 00:07:17,540 (suspenseful music) 129 00:07:17,540 --> 00:07:22,540 But it seemed like everyone she picked, they had issues. 130 00:07:23,990 --> 00:07:27,320 Actually, one of them tried to rape her 131 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:29,816 and she was able to get out of that one. 132 00:07:29,816 --> 00:07:32,566 (dramatic music) 133 00:07:33,740 --> 00:07:35,310 - Dating is different for everybody 134 00:07:35,310 --> 00:07:37,240 so when you see a dating website, 135 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:38,760 what does that mean, dating? 136 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:40,650 For some people, it means, literally, 137 00:07:40,650 --> 00:07:42,010 I'm gonna go on a date and have dinner. 138 00:07:42,010 --> 00:07:43,240 We're gonna go to a movie. 139 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:45,660 It's about having a relationship with somebody. 140 00:07:45,660 --> 00:07:49,480 For somebody else, dating might mean just having sex. 141 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:51,330 So it's a matter of perception 142 00:07:51,330 --> 00:07:53,763 of what that dating is all about. 143 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:58,130 For other people, it's about being predatorial. 144 00:07:58,130 --> 00:07:59,670 It's about finding victims. 145 00:07:59,670 --> 00:08:01,170 It's about exploiting people. 146 00:08:01,170 --> 00:08:02,790 It's about controlling people. 147 00:08:02,790 --> 00:08:04,470 It's that dark side of the web 148 00:08:04,470 --> 00:08:06,403 that people don't realize exists. 149 00:08:08,191 --> 00:08:10,941 (tranquil music) 150 00:08:14,500 --> 00:08:17,250 - [Sean] In 2009, Lorraine finally met 151 00:08:17,250 --> 00:08:19,793 someone online who seemed like a great match. 152 00:08:21,650 --> 00:08:24,983 His name was Robert Wiesner and he was 10 years her junior. 153 00:08:26,020 --> 00:08:28,310 They met for coffee at a local bookstore 154 00:08:28,310 --> 00:08:29,883 and immediately hit it off. 155 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:34,113 - She thought he was good looking. 156 00:08:35,530 --> 00:08:38,763 He liked to hike and she really liked to hike. 157 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:44,750 - I remember her talking about him 158 00:08:44,750 --> 00:08:47,010 and how excited she was to meet this individual 159 00:08:47,010 --> 00:08:51,122 and he made her happy and seemed to give her the attention 160 00:08:51,122 --> 00:08:53,823 that she was looking for. 161 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:58,730 - [Sean] Robert was from out of state and like Lorraine, 162 00:08:58,730 --> 00:09:01,843 he had grown up children from a previous relationship. 163 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:05,600 She told friends that he made her feel young again 164 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:07,203 and the relationship flourished. 165 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:12,590 But Lorraine's friends and family 166 00:09:12,590 --> 00:09:14,950 detected another side to Robert, 167 00:09:14,950 --> 00:09:16,683 one that made them uncomfortable. 168 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:20,310 - Maybe a little awkward, 169 00:09:20,310 --> 00:09:22,110 would be the best way to explain it. 170 00:09:23,660 --> 00:09:27,293 - I thought he was arrogant. 171 00:09:28,310 --> 00:09:31,433 I thought he was 50 trying to look 30. 172 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:36,050 - I tried to get along with him 173 00:09:36,050 --> 00:09:38,740 because it made my mom happy, 174 00:09:38,740 --> 00:09:42,010 so if she was happy, I was happy. 175 00:09:42,010 --> 00:09:46,610 - His physical appearance was I guess very metrosexual, 176 00:09:46,610 --> 00:09:48,520 I guess would be the right term. 177 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:50,923 You know, trying to, 178 00:09:53,350 --> 00:09:56,300 you know, just trying to be somebody that he really wasn't. 179 00:09:57,660 --> 00:09:59,727 - And I asked him, I said, 180 00:09:59,727 --> 00:10:01,890 "You think a lot of yourself, hey?" 181 00:10:01,890 --> 00:10:03,447 He goes, "Oh, of course I do. 182 00:10:03,447 --> 00:10:07,197 "I dye my hair, I tan, I workout daily." 183 00:10:10,380 --> 00:10:11,750 - It's clear that Robert Wiesner 184 00:10:11,750 --> 00:10:13,940 has a lot of narcicisstic traits. 185 00:10:13,940 --> 00:10:18,083 The way he took care of himself was eccentric. 186 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:25,280 And by the way, I think narcissism actually is underrated. 187 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:27,600 I think it's important to have a little bit of narcissism 188 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:28,820 because it drives you to perfection. 189 00:10:28,820 --> 00:10:30,550 It's kinda like a little bit of salt is good for you. 190 00:10:30,550 --> 00:10:31,950 Too much salt will kill you. 191 00:10:31,950 --> 00:10:34,950 Too much narcissism kills everybody around you. 192 00:10:34,950 --> 00:10:37,440 - [Sean] Robert's vanity seemed to put him at odds 193 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:39,730 with Lorraine's love of life. 194 00:10:39,730 --> 00:10:42,610 - She told me that she took him to Hawaii one time 195 00:10:42,610 --> 00:10:44,870 and he wouldn't even put his feet in the sand 196 00:10:44,870 --> 00:10:47,070 'cause he didn't want to get his feet dirty. 197 00:10:47,940 --> 00:10:49,957 And I said, "That's unusual, 198 00:10:49,957 --> 00:10:52,897 "because that's the whole reason you go to Hawaii 199 00:10:52,897 --> 00:10:54,680 "is to go to the beach," 200 00:10:54,680 --> 00:10:56,820 and that was the place that she loved most 201 00:10:56,820 --> 00:10:58,823 so she wanted to share it with him. 202 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:01,287 And I said, "Mom," I go, 203 00:11:01,287 --> 00:11:04,247 "I don't think this is the person for you." 204 00:11:05,478 --> 00:11:07,920 - [Sean] At the time he started dating Lorraine, 205 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:09,680 Robert didn't have a steady job 206 00:11:09,680 --> 00:11:11,493 and led a transient lifestyle. 207 00:11:12,610 --> 00:11:13,970 - My mom did very well. 208 00:11:13,970 --> 00:11:17,050 I mean, she had properties that were paid off 209 00:11:17,050 --> 00:11:19,520 and she was a very smart, 210 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:24,413 my dad was a smart business person but taught her well. 211 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:29,720 So she had to pay for everything 212 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:31,363 because he didn't have a job. 213 00:11:34,060 --> 00:11:36,010 - [Sean] Despite his lack of income, 214 00:11:36,010 --> 00:11:39,573 Robert lavished a great deal of time and care on his car. 215 00:11:41,230 --> 00:11:43,100 - It was a Ford Mustang 216 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:46,603 and it was immaculate, 217 00:11:48,530 --> 00:11:53,530 and it also had tuned exhaust and it was extremely loud. 218 00:11:53,828 --> 00:11:56,578 (engine revving) 219 00:11:57,520 --> 00:12:00,257 I could hear him before I ever saw him. 220 00:12:02,070 --> 00:12:05,513 He had a vanity plate and it was Hot Stud. 221 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:10,770 And I thought that was kinda funny. 222 00:12:10,770 --> 00:12:14,340 You know, for a guy 50 years old. 223 00:12:14,340 --> 00:12:17,827 - And I asked him, I say, "Oh, Hot Stud? 224 00:12:17,827 --> 00:12:20,330 "Really Robert, you think you're all that?" 225 00:12:20,330 --> 00:12:22,277 And he says, "Well your mom don't mind 226 00:12:22,277 --> 00:12:23,937 "me having it on there." 227 00:12:25,890 --> 00:12:27,930 - He was so into that car. 228 00:12:27,930 --> 00:12:30,573 I remember he would wash it all the time. 229 00:12:31,450 --> 00:12:34,960 I think the one time he even made Lorraine 230 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:39,060 keep her car in the driveway after he washed the car 231 00:12:39,060 --> 00:12:43,253 and he put his in the garage so that it would stay clean. 232 00:12:44,490 --> 00:12:46,310 - Robert has this Ford Mustang. 233 00:12:46,310 --> 00:12:47,520 It's black. 234 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:49,213 It's all decked out. 235 00:12:50,330 --> 00:12:54,300 It's his pride and joy is his car 236 00:12:54,300 --> 00:12:56,220 and most people don't look at their cars that way 237 00:12:56,220 --> 00:12:57,940 but that was all he had. 238 00:12:57,940 --> 00:12:59,223 He had this one car. 239 00:13:00,420 --> 00:13:03,737 And he was trying to convince people, "Look at my car. 240 00:13:03,737 --> 00:13:05,337 "It says Hot Stud on the license plate. 241 00:13:05,337 --> 00:13:08,030 "That's what I really am." 242 00:13:08,030 --> 00:13:10,320 It was like he was trying to convince himself 243 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:11,223 that's who he is. 244 00:13:12,654 --> 00:13:15,321 (ominous music) 245 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:20,970 - [Sean] Not long after the couple got together, 246 00:13:20,970 --> 00:13:22,330 Lorraine moved to a new home 247 00:13:22,330 --> 00:13:24,430 in the up-market Scottsdale area, 248 00:13:24,430 --> 00:13:26,103 on the outskirts of Phoenix. 249 00:13:29,170 --> 00:13:33,773 - She just wanted to be out of the rat race. 250 00:13:35,730 --> 00:13:37,540 She wanted to be out of the neighborhood. 251 00:13:37,540 --> 00:13:39,410 She wanted to 252 00:13:41,060 --> 00:13:44,030 kind of be out in the desert. 253 00:13:44,030 --> 00:13:46,271 She wanted a little more freedom. 254 00:13:46,271 --> 00:13:49,740 (ominous music) 255 00:13:49,740 --> 00:13:52,440 - [Sean] The fact that Lorraine now owned three houses 256 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:53,963 made her something of a catch. 257 00:13:56,670 --> 00:13:59,050 - He knew she was well off. 258 00:13:59,050 --> 00:14:03,180 He knew what she owned and he thought he could 259 00:14:03,180 --> 00:14:06,800 get a piece of what she had if they got married, 260 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:08,520 then he would be set for life. 261 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:10,593 I think that's what the thing was. 262 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:15,600 - [Sean] But Lorraine wanted to take things more slowly. 263 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:20,230 - She told him if he could hold a job for a year, 264 00:14:20,230 --> 00:14:24,090 then she would consider letting him move in with her. 265 00:14:24,090 --> 00:14:26,350 - I know he wanted to take things a lot faster 266 00:14:26,350 --> 00:14:27,820 than what she was hoping. 267 00:14:27,820 --> 00:14:30,260 You know, he probably would've been very happy 268 00:14:30,260 --> 00:14:33,173 if just the two of them, you know, ran off somewhere. 269 00:14:34,510 --> 00:14:36,620 - [Sean] But as the relationship progressed, 270 00:14:36,620 --> 00:14:39,580 friends and family started seeing tell-tale signs 271 00:14:39,580 --> 00:14:42,553 that Robert was growing increasingly jealous. 272 00:14:44,220 --> 00:14:45,990 - Robert was very controlling. 273 00:14:45,990 --> 00:14:48,000 He would call her all the time. 274 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:50,290 If she was on the computer, he could tell, 275 00:14:50,290 --> 00:14:53,827 and he would be right on there, "Who are you talking to?" 276 00:14:54,770 --> 00:14:59,400 And Christmas, he made her change four outfits 277 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:03,390 before the outfit she had on was appropriate 278 00:15:03,390 --> 00:15:06,513 for her to wear to her Christmas party. 279 00:15:07,370 --> 00:15:09,690 - It sounds like Robert was trying to control Lorraine 280 00:15:09,690 --> 00:15:12,100 and keep her under his influence, 281 00:15:12,100 --> 00:15:14,400 keep her doing what he wanted her to do 282 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:16,610 and also make sure that other external influences 283 00:15:16,610 --> 00:15:18,360 weren't taking her away from him. 284 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:21,040 That could've been because of underlying insecurities, 285 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:22,240 keep the person close, 286 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:25,020 make sure that you're the only person of support. 287 00:15:25,020 --> 00:15:27,280 Ultimately this is really unhealthy in a relationship 288 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:30,020 and it's a sign of abuse when someone's trying to control 289 00:15:30,020 --> 00:15:32,520 who you interact with and who you spend time with. 290 00:15:35,370 --> 00:15:37,530 - [Sean] Though Robert often expressed his desire 291 00:15:37,530 --> 00:15:41,600 to marry Lorraine, he harbored a secret side to his life. 292 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:45,970 He maintained an online profile and dated other women. 293 00:15:45,970 --> 00:15:48,400 - Robert was on several dating sites 294 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:52,060 and my mom also found out about that, 295 00:15:52,060 --> 00:15:53,980 and he also called her liar. 296 00:15:53,980 --> 00:15:55,600 Once again, she's crazy. 297 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:57,373 It's all in her head. 298 00:15:58,330 --> 00:16:02,457 So she pulled up the site and showed him, 299 00:16:02,457 --> 00:16:04,930 "Oh somebody else must've did it." 300 00:16:04,930 --> 00:16:08,657 Always deny, deny, deny and I told her, 301 00:16:08,657 --> 00:16:11,567 "You know, it's the one that's always denying 302 00:16:11,567 --> 00:16:16,227 "that's the doer and I know it's hard for you to see that 303 00:16:16,227 --> 00:16:20,073 "because your heart plays crazy things on your mind, 304 00:16:21,187 --> 00:16:24,157 "but that's the truth." 305 00:16:26,700 --> 00:16:28,280 - [Sean] Not only was Robert Wiesner 306 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:30,430 exhibiting controlling behavior, 307 00:16:30,430 --> 00:16:33,873 he also demonstrated that he possessed an explosive temper. 308 00:16:35,010 --> 00:16:40,010 - My mom had a dog that my grandma watched Robert kick. 309 00:16:40,723 --> 00:16:43,390 (ominous music) 310 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:47,610 - That's definitely a red flag. 311 00:16:47,610 --> 00:16:49,390 If somebody's gonna get angry at a dog 312 00:16:49,390 --> 00:16:50,830 and do something like that. 313 00:16:50,830 --> 00:16:52,600 However, you know, when we're blind, 314 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:55,150 we think we're blinded by love we'll do 315 00:16:55,150 --> 00:16:57,223 whatever we can to try to make it work. 316 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:00,480 - [Sean] Trying to keep the relationship together, 317 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:02,743 Lorraine even found Robert some work. 318 00:17:05,340 --> 00:17:08,713 - She got him a job at a car lot selling cars. 319 00:17:09,690 --> 00:17:14,340 He sold one car and then he was late for work, 320 00:17:14,340 --> 00:17:16,870 got in an argument with the manager out there 321 00:17:16,870 --> 00:17:18,690 and they fired him. 322 00:17:18,690 --> 00:17:22,153 And he just kept on mooching. 323 00:17:22,153 --> 00:17:25,190 (ominous music) 324 00:17:25,190 --> 00:17:27,970 - [Sean] With Robert unable to hold down a job, 325 00:17:27,970 --> 00:17:30,533 Lorraine finally decided to call it quits. 326 00:17:32,860 --> 00:17:35,690 - My mom was trying to get rid of him. 327 00:17:35,690 --> 00:17:38,090 I think my mom was afraid of Robert. 328 00:17:38,090 --> 00:17:42,522 She wasn't sure of what Robert would be capable of doing. 329 00:17:42,522 --> 00:17:45,189 (ominous music) 330 00:17:53,580 --> 00:17:56,320 - [Sean] On the first of March, 2010, 331 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:58,772 around a year after they first met, 332 00:17:58,772 --> 00:18:00,553 Lorraine's fears came true. 333 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:05,090 - She was at the airport waiting on the bus 334 00:18:05,090 --> 00:18:10,090 to take her to her car lot and Robert showed up. 335 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:17,687 And one of her friends happened to be with her. 336 00:18:18,860 --> 00:18:20,963 Robert demanded that she talk to him. 337 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:24,140 Lorraine's colleague tried to protect her. 338 00:18:25,070 --> 00:18:28,494 She had warned him that Robert always carried a gun. 339 00:18:28,494 --> 00:18:31,161 (intense music) 340 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:38,200 - [Sean] After a standoff, 341 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:40,713 an angry Robert finally left Lorraine alone. 342 00:18:43,410 --> 00:18:45,190 Frightened by the incident, 343 00:18:45,190 --> 00:18:47,793 Lorraine asked her friends and family for advice. 344 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:53,463 - We discussed it and I asked her straight out, I said, 345 00:18:54,417 --> 00:18:56,780 "Are you done with Robert?" 346 00:18:56,780 --> 00:18:58,040 She said, "Yes." 347 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:00,357 I said, "Now what you need to do is, 348 00:19:00,357 --> 00:19:02,597 "you need go to the paperwork. 349 00:19:02,597 --> 00:19:06,275 "You need to get your restraining order." 350 00:19:06,275 --> 00:19:08,942 (intense music) 351 00:19:12,250 --> 00:19:13,083 - [Sean] Lorraine took out 352 00:19:13,083 --> 00:19:15,380 an order of protection against Robert, 353 00:19:15,380 --> 00:19:18,163 hoping this would draw a line under the relationship, 354 00:19:19,970 --> 00:19:22,480 but it didn't go down well. 355 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:26,190 - The police said when he got served, he was pure white. 356 00:19:26,190 --> 00:19:28,020 You know, it was very unexpected. 357 00:19:28,020 --> 00:19:30,390 Something that he didn't think that she would do 358 00:19:30,390 --> 00:19:33,600 because she was so kindhearted. 359 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:37,090 - One never wants to wound a narcissist 360 00:19:37,090 --> 00:19:39,563 and they take it very, very personally. 361 00:19:41,410 --> 00:19:44,300 Healthy people understand relationships break up 362 00:19:44,300 --> 00:19:48,450 and we move on, but a narcissist, for them, 363 00:19:48,450 --> 00:19:51,963 that's a personal attack and they don't forget. 364 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:55,650 - [Sean] Despite the order of protection, 365 00:19:55,650 --> 00:19:57,043 Robert didn't give up. 366 00:19:59,250 --> 00:20:02,623 - Everywhere it seemed that she went, he would show up, 367 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:06,867 and my son said to me, 368 00:20:06,867 --> 00:20:08,557 "You know Mom, Grandma says 369 00:20:08,557 --> 00:20:11,707 "somebody is peeking through the shades," 370 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:16,543 but every time she went and looked, there was nobody there. 371 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:20,423 You know, he was just antagonizing her. 372 00:20:22,830 --> 00:20:24,770 - I asked her, "Do you have a gun?" 373 00:20:24,770 --> 00:20:26,330 She said, "Yes, I do." 374 00:20:26,330 --> 00:20:27,900 I said, "Do you know how to use it?" 375 00:20:27,900 --> 00:20:29,640 She says, "Yes, I do." 376 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:31,777 I said, "I would keep it with you all the time 377 00:20:31,777 --> 00:20:33,127 "when you're in the house." 378 00:20:34,120 --> 00:20:36,410 - She called me and she mentioned that Robert 379 00:20:36,410 --> 00:20:39,393 kept calling her over and over and over again, 380 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:42,657 and she kept telling Robert, she's like, 381 00:20:42,657 --> 00:20:46,211 "We're done, we're not gonna get back together." 382 00:20:46,211 --> 00:20:48,878 (intense music) 383 00:20:52,938 --> 00:20:55,605 (phone ringing) 384 00:21:02,309 --> 00:21:05,411 (intense music) 385 00:21:05,411 --> 00:21:08,090 (phone ringing) 386 00:21:08,090 --> 00:21:10,000 - [Dispatcher] 911, what is your emergency? 387 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:11,765 - [Robert] My girlfriend shot me 388 00:21:11,765 --> 00:21:12,887 then I tried to get the gun away from her 389 00:21:12,887 --> 00:21:14,660 and she shot herself so, 390 00:21:14,660 --> 00:21:16,750 we need medical assistance immediately. 391 00:21:16,750 --> 00:21:17,750 - [Dispatcher] What's your name, Sir? 392 00:21:17,750 --> 00:21:18,820 - [Robert] Robert. 393 00:21:18,820 --> 00:21:20,081 - [Dispatcher] Robert, what's your last name? 394 00:21:20,081 --> 00:21:21,100 - [Robert] Wiesner. 395 00:21:21,100 --> 00:21:22,850 I'm not gonna make it. 396 00:21:22,850 --> 00:21:23,683 - [Dispatcher] I need to know 397 00:21:23,683 --> 00:21:26,070 a better location of where you are, Sir. 398 00:21:26,070 --> 00:21:27,750 - [Robert] Exit mile marker 109. 399 00:21:27,750 --> 00:21:29,483 You take it 13 miles south. 400 00:21:30,590 --> 00:21:32,610 - [Sean] The desperate 911 call 401 00:21:32,610 --> 00:21:35,486 came from a remote corner of Yavapai County. 402 00:21:35,486 --> 00:21:38,850 (intense music) 403 00:21:38,850 --> 00:21:43,830 - Myself and Deputy Slay got in our patrol vehicles 404 00:21:43,830 --> 00:21:46,030 and started heading that way. 405 00:21:46,030 --> 00:21:48,410 - [Sean] The location of the call was so remote, 406 00:21:48,410 --> 00:21:51,543 it would take officers nearly 45 minutes to get there. 407 00:21:52,479 --> 00:21:54,407 - [Robert] Well I think I'm bleeding to death. 408 00:21:54,407 --> 00:21:55,240 I think I should get in my car 409 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:56,500 and start driving towards that way. 410 00:21:56,500 --> 00:21:58,893 - [Dispatcher] Okay, what's your girlfriend's name? 411 00:21:58,893 --> 00:22:00,850 - [Robert] Lorraine. 412 00:22:00,850 --> 00:22:02,270 - [Dispatcher] Where did it all start? 413 00:22:02,270 --> 00:22:03,450 - [Robert] I was bending over to tie my shoes 414 00:22:03,450 --> 00:22:06,260 and all of a sudden, she pulls a gun out 415 00:22:06,260 --> 00:22:08,100 and shoots me three times in the chest. 416 00:22:08,100 --> 00:22:09,360 - [Dispatcher] I know, we know that. 417 00:22:09,360 --> 00:22:10,683 What did she shoot you with? 418 00:22:10,683 --> 00:22:12,530 - [Robert] Her .357 magnum. 419 00:22:12,530 --> 00:22:14,019 I'm not gonna make it. 420 00:22:14,019 --> 00:22:15,513 I think I'm bleeding to death. 421 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:19,170 - We kept on getting the updates that he was having problems 422 00:22:19,170 --> 00:22:22,000 due to the gunshot wounds to the chest. 423 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:23,940 - [Sean] Eventually, officers spotted 424 00:22:23,940 --> 00:22:27,730 the caller's vehicle, a silver Dodge Avenger. 425 00:22:27,730 --> 00:22:29,490 - When I arrived on scene, 426 00:22:29,490 --> 00:22:31,840 the car was parked on the side of the shoulder. 427 00:22:32,850 --> 00:22:34,560 - [Sean] Police found Robert Wiesner 428 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:36,223 bleeding at the side of the road. 429 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:43,040 - I could see that there was an odd shaped injury 430 00:22:43,450 --> 00:22:45,620 looked like it could've been a gunshot wound, 431 00:22:45,620 --> 00:22:47,390 which I perceived it to be going from 432 00:22:47,390 --> 00:22:49,960 the left side to the right side. 433 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:53,200 Appeared to have just grazed going across his body 434 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:55,950 (dramatic music) 435 00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:59,360 and a wound to his right shoulder 436 00:22:59,360 --> 00:23:01,253 that appeared to be a gunshot wound. 437 00:23:03,370 --> 00:23:05,493 - [Sean] But he was not the only casualty. 438 00:23:06,380 --> 00:23:08,600 - The vehicle was not cleared 439 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:11,623 and I began a clearing of the vehicle. 440 00:23:12,611 --> 00:23:15,361 (dramatic music) 441 00:23:17,141 --> 00:23:19,808 (ominous music) 442 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,380 - [Sean] Detective Lopez found the body of a woman 443 00:23:25,380 --> 00:23:27,423 in the back seat of the Dodge Avenger. 444 00:23:28,347 --> 00:23:31,097 (dramatic music) 445 00:23:34,150 --> 00:23:35,143 It was Lorraine. 446 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:40,330 - She was cold to the touch. 447 00:23:40,330 --> 00:23:44,160 Her body was stiffened already from rigor mortis 448 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:45,560 and it was evident to me 449 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:49,810 that she had not recently passed away. 450 00:23:49,810 --> 00:23:52,930 - [Sean] Lorraine had two gunshot wounds to the chest. 451 00:23:52,930 --> 00:23:55,000 The lack of blood in the car indicated 452 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:57,273 that she had not died in that vehicle. 453 00:23:58,620 --> 00:24:02,200 - Her shorts weren't pulled up all the way, 454 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:04,090 which, exposing her pelvic area 455 00:24:04,090 --> 00:24:06,950 which I perceived as quite odd. 456 00:24:06,950 --> 00:24:08,680 But it would've been consistent with somebody trying 457 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:12,563 to pull somebody in and the shorts falling down the legs. 458 00:24:14,430 --> 00:24:16,050 - [Sean] Police now began the task 459 00:24:16,050 --> 00:24:18,560 of piecing together what happened. 460 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:20,950 In order to do so, they needed to find 461 00:24:20,950 --> 00:24:22,453 where Lorraine had died. 462 00:24:24,050 --> 00:24:26,320 Police went to Lorraine's Scottsdale home 463 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:29,860 to notify her family but what they found there 464 00:24:29,860 --> 00:24:31,853 raised yet more questions. 465 00:24:33,890 --> 00:24:37,520 - The responding agency actually called me back 466 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:40,510 to let me know that they had found more 467 00:24:40,510 --> 00:24:42,489 than just a next of kin at the house. 468 00:24:42,489 --> 00:24:45,760 (intense music) 469 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:48,050 - The Scottsdale residence, on the back patio, 470 00:24:48,050 --> 00:24:49,640 we found a black backpack 471 00:24:50,570 --> 00:24:52,743 with some loaded pistol magazines. 472 00:24:54,490 --> 00:24:58,060 We also found the back window to the residence broken out 473 00:25:00,010 --> 00:25:02,350 and Lorraine's cell phone was actually left 474 00:25:02,350 --> 00:25:04,330 sitting on the bed next to her laptop 475 00:25:04,330 --> 00:25:06,080 and some bills and other documents. 476 00:25:07,150 --> 00:25:09,910 It appears she just took off her reading glasses 477 00:25:11,300 --> 00:25:13,650 and then left everything like that undisturbed. 478 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:17,010 - [Sean] Police found blood around the window frame, 479 00:25:17,010 --> 00:25:18,513 suggesting a break in, 480 00:25:19,730 --> 00:25:22,520 but no more blood was found here. 481 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:24,280 Police quickly realized that this 482 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:27,010 was not the location of the shooting. 483 00:25:27,010 --> 00:25:32,010 - I had come home that day and I saw the police units 484 00:25:33,570 --> 00:25:35,550 the sheriff's units across the street 485 00:25:38,890 --> 00:25:42,820 and I said, "But is Lorraine's car in the driveway?" 486 00:25:42,820 --> 00:25:47,447 And they said, "No, Lorraine's car is up north." 487 00:25:50,195 --> 00:25:51,537 I said, "Okay." 488 00:25:52,570 --> 00:25:56,940 And I said, "So have you found Robert's car?" 489 00:25:56,940 --> 00:26:00,720 And they said, "No, they haven't found it." 490 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:02,420 And I said, "Okay," 491 00:26:02,420 --> 00:26:04,940 I said, "Do you want me to go look for it?" 492 00:26:04,940 --> 00:26:06,750 I said, "I think I could find it." 493 00:26:06,750 --> 00:26:09,390 And he said, "Well, where are you gonna look?" 494 00:26:09,390 --> 00:26:14,390 I said, "Well, Robert would not have drove up west of me 495 00:26:15,047 --> 00:26:17,207 "because he would've had to come by me 496 00:26:17,207 --> 00:26:19,807 "and I woulda heard his car and known he was there." 497 00:26:22,150 --> 00:26:24,680 - [Sean] Randy located Wiesner's Mustang 498 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:26,550 hidden behind bushes on the other side 499 00:26:26,550 --> 00:26:29,033 of the intersection just below the house. 500 00:26:31,780 --> 00:26:35,200 Inside, detectives found ammunition, binoculars, 501 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:38,310 a stun gun, and a balaclava ski mask, 502 00:26:38,310 --> 00:26:41,403 suggesting some sort of abduction may have been planned. 503 00:26:43,140 --> 00:26:47,230 They also found a receipt for a nearby fast food restaurant, 504 00:26:47,230 --> 00:26:50,583 proving he'd been in the area at 6:15 the night before. 505 00:26:52,170 --> 00:26:54,090 Meanwhile, Lorraine's daughter 506 00:26:54,090 --> 00:26:56,040 was starting to worry about her mother. 507 00:26:57,736 --> 00:27:00,103 - I didn't know what was going on. 508 00:27:01,690 --> 00:27:03,993 I was calling her all day. 509 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:07,630 And I kept calling her and then 510 00:27:07,630 --> 00:27:09,860 I started getting angry at her. 511 00:27:09,860 --> 00:27:12,557 I'm like, "Mom, I've called you all day. 512 00:27:12,557 --> 00:27:14,517 "You have not called me back, you know, 513 00:27:14,517 --> 00:27:16,527 "that is not like you. 514 00:27:16,527 --> 00:27:18,017 "I'm really angry, you know? 515 00:27:18,017 --> 00:27:18,997 "What have I done? 516 00:27:18,997 --> 00:27:20,617 "Have I done something?" 517 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:27,023 And then that afternoon, the sheriffs called me. 518 00:27:30,130 --> 00:27:33,023 I felt almost empty inside. 519 00:27:34,045 --> 00:27:36,795 (mournful music) 520 00:27:39,210 --> 00:27:40,923 You're never prepared. 521 00:27:42,394 --> 00:27:45,144 (mournful music) 522 00:27:50,410 --> 00:27:52,740 I just felt hollow inside. 523 00:27:52,740 --> 00:27:55,690 I just couldn't understand how somebody could be so brutal. 524 00:27:57,394 --> 00:28:00,144 (mournful music) 525 00:28:02,234 --> 00:28:04,090 (dramatic music) 526 00:28:04,090 --> 00:28:06,477 - [Sean] Police visited Wiesner in hospital 527 00:28:06,477 --> 00:28:08,623 but they found him unwilling to talk. 528 00:28:10,113 --> 00:28:11,820 - [Officer] For us to proceed with this investigation, 529 00:28:11,820 --> 00:28:15,010 we have to get an idea from you. 530 00:28:15,010 --> 00:28:16,940 - [Robert] I think I need counsel. 531 00:28:16,940 --> 00:28:19,666 - [Officer] Okay, so you want to wait for an attorney? 532 00:28:19,666 --> 00:28:21,100 - [Robert] Yeah. 533 00:28:21,100 --> 00:28:24,670 - Mr. Wiesner indicated that he did not wish 534 00:28:24,670 --> 00:28:27,840 to provide any statement to law enforcement 535 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:31,130 after he had invoked his rights to request an attorney. 536 00:28:31,130 --> 00:28:34,290 So at that point, all we know is that Mr. Wiesner 537 00:28:34,290 --> 00:28:37,790 was claiming that Ms. Long 538 00:28:37,790 --> 00:28:40,823 had attempted to shoot him for unknown reasons. 539 00:28:41,860 --> 00:28:44,180 - [Sean] Medical examination of his wounds 540 00:28:44,180 --> 00:28:46,363 seemed to contradict his earlier account. 541 00:28:47,310 --> 00:28:49,890 - Mr. Wiesner indicated during the 911 call 542 00:28:49,890 --> 00:28:51,460 that he did not think he was gonna make it 543 00:28:51,460 --> 00:28:53,460 because he had been shot multiple times. 544 00:28:54,870 --> 00:28:58,040 He did have what was determined to be a gunshot wound 545 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:00,230 to his upper chest, however, 546 00:29:00,230 --> 00:29:02,630 what it was determined is that one shot 547 00:29:02,630 --> 00:29:05,320 had actually gone sideways across his chest, 548 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:08,270 entered just enough below the skin, 549 00:29:08,270 --> 00:29:09,720 traveled underneath the skin 550 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:11,220 approximately two to three inches, 551 00:29:11,220 --> 00:29:13,450 and then exited right back out 552 00:29:13,450 --> 00:29:15,270 across the front of his chest. 553 00:29:15,270 --> 00:29:17,470 His injuries were actually very superficial. 554 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:20,730 - [Sean] Police also noticed other injuries 555 00:29:20,730 --> 00:29:23,120 that aroused their suspicion. 556 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:27,633 - What was interesting is that he had cuts to his hands. 557 00:29:28,940 --> 00:29:30,940 On the inside of his hands, 558 00:29:30,940 --> 00:29:34,160 and a cut on the outside of one of his hands. 559 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:36,340 The cuts, we determined, were consistent 560 00:29:36,340 --> 00:29:38,600 with grabbing the windowsill 561 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:40,300 and pulling yourself into the house 562 00:29:40,300 --> 00:29:42,750 and entering the home through that broken window. 563 00:29:44,682 --> 00:29:47,349 (intense music) 564 00:29:50,500 --> 00:29:53,400 - [Sean] Yavapai detectives located and gained entry 565 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,553 to Lorraine's Seligman ranch house. 566 00:29:56,525 --> 00:29:58,600 (intense music) 567 00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:03,116 They quickly realized that this was the scene of the crime. 568 00:30:03,116 --> 00:30:05,620 (intense music) 569 00:30:05,620 --> 00:30:08,430 - The couch in the living room area 570 00:30:08,430 --> 00:30:11,440 had been slid from its place of rest 571 00:30:12,510 --> 00:30:14,830 across the front door, blocking the front door 572 00:30:14,830 --> 00:30:16,473 as an exist or entrance point. 573 00:30:18,690 --> 00:30:20,830 And then in the master bedroom area, 574 00:30:20,830 --> 00:30:23,623 we found at least two bullet holes. 575 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:28,330 One of them was at a downward angle 576 00:30:28,330 --> 00:30:29,793 based on its trajectory. 577 00:30:31,180 --> 00:30:35,280 Another bullet was located in the bedroom door 578 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:37,990 and from the trajectory of that bullet, 579 00:30:37,990 --> 00:30:40,910 it was clearly an upward angle though at that point, 580 00:30:40,910 --> 00:30:44,660 all we knew is that Mr. Wiesner was claiming 581 00:30:44,660 --> 00:30:48,320 that Ms. Long had attempted to shoot him 582 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:52,480 for unknown reasons and when he tried to disarm her, 583 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,137 that there was a struggle over the gun 584 00:30:55,137 --> 00:30:56,850 and that the gun had gone off 585 00:30:56,850 --> 00:30:58,450 during the struggle for the gun. 586 00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:01,870 - [Sean] Firearms expert, Philip Boyce, 587 00:31:01,870 --> 00:31:04,893 has analyzed the ballistics and crime scene evidence. 588 00:31:06,490 --> 00:31:08,980 - The evidence from the scene indicates 589 00:31:08,980 --> 00:31:11,160 that there were five bullet holes, 590 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:14,220 three of which were somewhat erratic in trajectory 591 00:31:14,220 --> 00:31:17,180 and two of which seem to have gone through the floor. 592 00:31:17,180 --> 00:31:19,530 This would actually possibly support 593 00:31:19,530 --> 00:31:21,180 that the perpetrator said there was 594 00:31:21,180 --> 00:31:23,570 some sort of fight or argument going on 595 00:31:23,570 --> 00:31:25,653 when the weapon was fired. 596 00:31:29,030 --> 00:31:30,960 - [Sean] But police still needed to work out 597 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:32,803 who had really shot who. 598 00:31:34,220 --> 00:31:36,930 Wiesner claimed that Lorraine had shot him 599 00:31:36,930 --> 00:31:39,543 and then shot herself in a struggle over the gun. 600 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:42,840 But the autopsy on Lorraine's body 601 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:44,840 suggested a different version of events 602 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,283 to the one that Wiesner had told the police. 603 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:51,840 - This is a sample of pig skin, 604 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:55,460 which we actually use for test firing 605 00:31:55,460 --> 00:32:00,052 because it represents, as close as possible, human skin. 606 00:32:00,052 --> 00:32:02,719 (intense music) 607 00:32:05,770 --> 00:32:07,180 So what we're actually going to do 608 00:32:07,180 --> 00:32:08,900 is we're going to shoot the pig skin 609 00:32:08,900 --> 00:32:12,460 at a series of ranges, starting off at six inches, 610 00:32:12,460 --> 00:32:15,780 and comparing the tattooing or stippling 611 00:32:15,780 --> 00:32:17,183 with that on the deceased. 612 00:32:19,500 --> 00:32:24,150 In a typical homicide investigation involving firearms, 613 00:32:24,150 --> 00:32:26,540 you're looking at trajectories of shots 614 00:32:26,540 --> 00:32:30,130 that have been fired, any injuries or fatalities, 615 00:32:30,130 --> 00:32:34,220 and range of fire to ascertain who did the shooting 616 00:32:34,220 --> 00:32:36,260 and from what distance. 617 00:32:36,260 --> 00:32:37,950 Some of the key things that we're looking for 618 00:32:37,950 --> 00:32:42,170 in terms of range of fire is what we term powder tattooing 619 00:32:42,170 --> 00:32:44,820 or some people refer to it as stippling 620 00:32:44,820 --> 00:32:49,820 where a propellant is a discharge from the muzzle of the gun 621 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:53,660 and it actually penetrates the skin, 622 00:32:53,660 --> 00:32:56,031 leaving a permanent mark. 623 00:32:56,031 --> 00:32:57,210 (gun firing) 624 00:32:57,210 --> 00:32:58,480 - [Sean] Philip fires the gun 625 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:00,283 from three different distances. 626 00:33:04,691 --> 00:33:06,680 (gun firing) 627 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,830 - Here we have three of the targets that we fired at, 628 00:33:09,830 --> 00:33:12,290 one is six inches, and you can see the tattooing 629 00:33:12,290 --> 00:33:13,660 or stippling out to here, 630 00:33:13,660 --> 00:33:17,620 one at 18 inches, you can see its out to here, 631 00:33:17,620 --> 00:33:20,860 and one at 24 inches, you can see its out to here. 632 00:33:20,860 --> 00:33:23,090 It would indicate to me the range of fire 633 00:33:23,090 --> 00:33:28,090 is somewhere between 18 and 24 inches and having said that, 634 00:33:28,220 --> 00:33:30,710 more towards the 24 inches. 635 00:33:30,710 --> 00:33:33,290 Information that was available to me, 636 00:33:33,290 --> 00:33:36,420 it was allegedly that she had shot herself. 637 00:33:36,420 --> 00:33:38,870 Given that, and the fact that she had stippling 638 00:33:38,870 --> 00:33:40,220 on the back of her hands, 639 00:33:40,220 --> 00:33:43,030 I would say the perpetrator had to be at least 640 00:33:43,030 --> 00:33:48,030 24 inches from her and the wounds were not self-inflicted. 641 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:51,820 - [Sean] Having studied the case, 642 00:33:51,820 --> 00:33:54,270 Philip believes that it's possible to ascertain 643 00:33:54,270 --> 00:33:58,360 even more information from Lorraine's two gunshot wounds. 644 00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:02,220 The autopsy indicates that both exits were shored, 645 00:34:02,220 --> 00:34:05,860 meaning that the skin of the body 646 00:34:05,860 --> 00:34:09,310 was against a hard or semi-hard surface. 647 00:34:09,310 --> 00:34:14,110 This would indicate to me that the deceased 648 00:34:14,110 --> 00:34:16,900 had been sitting for the first shot, 649 00:34:16,900 --> 00:34:20,360 which was in contact with her lower back 650 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:21,680 and then when she fell, 651 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:24,240 she was still in contact with the floor 652 00:34:24,240 --> 00:34:25,680 with the second shot. 653 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:27,400 This would mean that the perpetrator 654 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:29,573 was most likely standing over her. 655 00:34:32,156 --> 00:34:34,516 (gun firing) 656 00:34:34,516 --> 00:34:36,350 (intense music) 657 00:34:36,350 --> 00:34:38,320 - [Sean] Investigators secured a warrant 658 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:40,780 to access mobile phone records. 659 00:34:40,780 --> 00:34:43,420 - So we recovered Lorraine's cell phone 660 00:34:43,420 --> 00:34:46,190 from her residence and we recovered Mr. Wiesner's cell phone 661 00:34:46,190 --> 00:34:48,590 from the vehicle where deputies located him. 662 00:34:48,590 --> 00:34:50,060 We also obtained cell phone records 663 00:34:50,060 --> 00:34:52,220 from both their providers. 664 00:34:52,220 --> 00:34:55,190 Using that information, we were able to create a timeline 665 00:34:55,190 --> 00:34:57,490 and kind of create a map of the movement 666 00:34:57,490 --> 00:34:59,163 involved with this incident. 667 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:02,580 - [Sean] Police were able to piece together 668 00:35:02,580 --> 00:35:04,710 what they believe happened in the hours 669 00:35:04,710 --> 00:35:06,643 leading up to Lorraine's death. 670 00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:11,640 - So this is the residence at which Mr. Wiesner was staying 671 00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:14,017 in the center part of Scottdale. 672 00:35:14,017 --> 00:35:15,320 At the beginning part of the day, 673 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:17,030 he was sending text messages 674 00:35:17,030 --> 00:35:19,244 and making phone calls to Lorraine. 675 00:35:19,244 --> 00:35:21,911 (phone ringing) 676 00:35:23,260 --> 00:35:25,670 Mr. Wiesner becomes increasingly desperate 677 00:35:25,670 --> 00:35:27,834 as these messages continue. 678 00:35:27,834 --> 00:35:30,885 (soft tone) 679 00:35:30,885 --> 00:35:33,218 (soft tone) 680 00:35:34,285 --> 00:35:35,118 (soft tone) 681 00:35:35,118 --> 00:35:38,464 Lorraine texts Mr. Wiesner at 5:38. 682 00:35:38,464 --> 00:35:40,433 (soft tone) 683 00:35:40,433 --> 00:35:42,766 (soft tone) 684 00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:44,913 (soft tone) 685 00:35:44,913 --> 00:35:47,403 Robert responds to Lorraine that she's all he wants. 686 00:35:50,150 --> 00:35:52,360 At 6:40 pm, Robert had already traveled 687 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:53,820 well North in Scottsdale 688 00:35:53,820 --> 00:35:55,973 in the direction of Lorraine's residence. 689 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:02,610 At 8:12 pm, Mr. Wiesner places a phone call, 690 00:36:02,610 --> 00:36:05,363 very close to Lorraine's residence. 691 00:36:08,170 --> 00:36:12,603 Approximately 9 pm, Mr. Wiesner arrived in his Ford Mustang. 692 00:36:15,848 --> 00:36:18,515 (intense music) 693 00:36:22,910 --> 00:36:24,240 We think Mr. Wiesner crossed 694 00:36:24,240 --> 00:36:26,860 between two of the vacant residences 695 00:36:26,860 --> 00:36:29,933 and entered this wash behind Lorraine's residence. 696 00:36:32,460 --> 00:36:34,950 Based on shoe impressions we found in this wash, 697 00:36:34,950 --> 00:36:36,890 he had then walked a short distance 698 00:36:38,220 --> 00:36:41,223 and we found shoe impressions leading up to her back patio. 699 00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:44,280 - [Sean] Evidence showed he was carrying 700 00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:47,703 his own Glock handgun as he approached the house. 701 00:36:50,690 --> 00:36:54,720 - Mr. Wiesner came up to the back window to the family room. 702 00:36:54,720 --> 00:36:57,510 He was carrying a heavy metal tow hitch, 703 00:36:57,510 --> 00:36:58,710 like from a pickup truck 704 00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:02,360 and he threw it through this window. 705 00:37:03,331 --> 00:37:06,081 (dramatic music) 706 00:37:07,460 --> 00:37:09,610 The tow hitch Mr. Wiesner threw in the house 707 00:37:09,610 --> 00:37:11,023 landed on this sofa here. 708 00:37:12,750 --> 00:37:15,210 This window had been shattered out 709 00:37:15,210 --> 00:37:18,010 and as he climbed through it, it appears he cut himself. 710 00:37:18,950 --> 00:37:21,290 There's blood evidence we found on the wall right here 711 00:37:21,290 --> 00:37:23,000 consistent with him placing his hand there 712 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,810 as he climbed in to Lorraine's family room. 713 00:37:25,810 --> 00:37:27,390 Lorraine's bedroom was just on the other side 714 00:37:27,390 --> 00:37:28,693 of this wall to my left. 715 00:37:30,630 --> 00:37:33,120 We found her laptop open, her cell phone open 716 00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:34,770 and some documents there. 717 00:37:34,770 --> 00:37:36,650 We believe she then came around that corner 718 00:37:36,650 --> 00:37:39,580 and encountered Mr. Wiesner here in her family room, 719 00:37:39,580 --> 00:37:41,570 where we believe he abducted her at gunpoint, 720 00:37:41,570 --> 00:37:44,320 leading her out through the laundry room to the garage. 721 00:37:46,940 --> 00:37:49,840 Mr. Wiesner, we believe, forced Lorraine into her vehicle. 722 00:37:51,140 --> 00:37:53,930 - [Sean] Neighbors saw Lorraine's silver Dodge Avenger 723 00:37:53,930 --> 00:37:56,533 exit her driveway around 10:30 pm. 724 00:37:59,630 --> 00:38:02,100 It's possible that Lorraine drove her own car 725 00:38:02,100 --> 00:38:04,963 for the three and a half hours to her Seligman ranch, 726 00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,729 held at gunpoint by Wiesner. 727 00:38:09,729 --> 00:38:12,396 (intense music) 728 00:38:19,980 --> 00:38:23,140 They would've arrived sometime after 2 am. 729 00:38:23,140 --> 00:38:25,910 - During that journey, he would've been in control, 730 00:38:25,910 --> 00:38:28,010 so Lorraine had tried to pull away 731 00:38:28,010 --> 00:38:29,720 but Robert had regained that control, 732 00:38:29,720 --> 00:38:31,423 even though it was through force. 733 00:38:34,370 --> 00:38:37,570 - [Sean] Only Wiesner knows what happened next, 734 00:38:37,570 --> 00:38:39,970 but it seems likely that Lorraine's plan 735 00:38:39,970 --> 00:38:43,010 was to make things feel as normal as possible. 736 00:38:43,010 --> 00:38:45,440 - In that living room, there was an entertainment center 737 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:48,520 that had multiple movies spilled out onto the floor, 738 00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:50,470 as if someone had been watching movies. 739 00:38:51,310 --> 00:38:53,773 There was food and drink prepared in the kitchen. 740 00:38:56,290 --> 00:38:59,640 - [Sean] At some stage, they moved into the bedroom. 741 00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:02,470 - Wiesner had no idea that the family 742 00:39:02,470 --> 00:39:05,463 kept a gun in the dresser up at that residence. 743 00:39:08,070 --> 00:39:11,883 It is believed that Ms. Long knew that gun was still there, 744 00:39:14,620 --> 00:39:17,858 loaded and ready to use to protect herself. 745 00:39:17,858 --> 00:39:21,390 (dramatic music) 746 00:39:21,390 --> 00:39:24,730 She took an opportunity to pull that gun out 747 00:39:24,730 --> 00:39:26,948 and shots were fired. 748 00:39:26,948 --> 00:39:29,698 (dramatic music) 749 00:39:33,580 --> 00:39:36,190 The gun was taken from Ms. Long 750 00:39:40,130 --> 00:39:41,827 and she was shot twice in the chest. 751 00:39:41,827 --> 00:39:44,244 (gun firing) 752 00:39:47,240 --> 00:39:50,113 - He dragged her body out to the car, 753 00:39:51,790 --> 00:39:54,290 loaded her into the back of the car 754 00:39:54,290 --> 00:39:57,718 and then he called the sheriff's office just after 4 am. 755 00:39:57,718 --> 00:39:59,770 (phone ringing) 756 00:39:59,770 --> 00:40:02,030 - [Dispatcher] 911, what is your emergency? 757 00:40:02,030 --> 00:40:04,010 - This sounds the type of murder 758 00:40:04,010 --> 00:40:06,180 where Lorraine had tried to end the relationship 759 00:40:06,180 --> 00:40:07,930 and Robert had taken offense at that 760 00:40:07,930 --> 00:40:10,350 and perceived that as extreme rejection 761 00:40:10,350 --> 00:40:12,160 and wanted to regain control. 762 00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:14,410 So the murder in itself could've been a revenge act 763 00:40:14,410 --> 00:40:16,740 because he was rejected or it could've been something 764 00:40:16,740 --> 00:40:19,903 where he felt he needed to take control of his own life. 765 00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:25,010 - [Sean] Wiesner was charged with murder. 766 00:40:31,168 --> 00:40:33,160 (mournful music) 767 00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:35,063 The case never went to trial. 768 00:40:35,900 --> 00:40:37,833 It took five years to resolve. 769 00:40:39,170 --> 00:40:41,460 - I feel that he was dragging it out. 770 00:40:41,460 --> 00:40:43,740 You know, that was part of his control thing, you know, 771 00:40:43,740 --> 00:40:48,040 by dragging it out so that it keeps going on and on and on, 772 00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:50,530 whether he thought it would delay his sentence 773 00:40:50,530 --> 00:40:52,610 or whether he through that it was 774 00:40:52,610 --> 00:40:55,140 the last way to control the situation, 775 00:40:55,140 --> 00:40:57,280 or whether he thought it would put the family through more, 776 00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,070 you know, I really don't know. 777 00:40:59,070 --> 00:41:02,683 Only Robert knows what Robert intended. 778 00:41:04,959 --> 00:41:06,390 - [Sean] Wiesner refused to accept 779 00:41:06,390 --> 00:41:08,493 responsibility for Lorraine's death. 780 00:41:10,590 --> 00:41:12,920 - Well it was prolonging and prolonging 781 00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:14,867 and finally said to my brother, I said, 782 00:41:14,867 --> 00:41:18,637 "You know, let's offer him a plea bargain. 783 00:41:18,637 --> 00:41:21,967 "How about we offer 27 years? 784 00:41:21,967 --> 00:41:25,767 "By the time he gets out, he's gonna be almost 80. 785 00:41:25,767 --> 00:41:28,087 "What kinda life is he gonna have anyway?" 786 00:41:29,660 --> 00:41:33,600 - [Sean] Eventually, on the 7th of May, 2015, 787 00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:35,943 Robert Wiesner accepted the plea bargain. 788 00:41:38,010 --> 00:41:40,470 - Wiesner accepted a plea agreement, 789 00:41:40,470 --> 00:41:43,160 where he pled guilty to a judge 790 00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:47,430 for the charge of burglary as well as second degree murder. 791 00:41:47,430 --> 00:41:49,870 As a result, Wiesner received a term 792 00:41:49,870 --> 00:41:52,410 of five years prison for the burglary, 793 00:41:52,410 --> 00:41:55,340 followed by a second consecutive charge 794 00:41:55,340 --> 00:41:58,750 of 22 years for the homicide of Ms. Long, 795 00:41:58,750 --> 00:42:00,713 for a total of 27 years in prison. 796 00:42:01,646 --> 00:42:04,313 (ominous music) 797 00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:15,270 - I think online dating sometimes leads to relationships 798 00:42:15,270 --> 00:42:16,920 that wouldn't have otherwise occurred 799 00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:19,420 because people who had no prior connection 800 00:42:19,420 --> 00:42:21,300 and don't have a background information 801 00:42:21,300 --> 00:42:23,510 about the other person get involved in a relationship 802 00:42:23,510 --> 00:42:25,300 and sometimes and very unfortunately, 803 00:42:25,300 --> 00:42:27,777 create great personal danger for themselves. 804 00:42:27,777 --> 00:42:31,020 (ominous music) 805 00:42:31,020 --> 00:42:32,490 - In the real world, this relationship 806 00:42:32,490 --> 00:42:33,960 would never have been formed 807 00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:36,870 because this woman who is successful, 808 00:42:36,870 --> 00:42:40,890 she's attractive, she knows she's a successful person, 809 00:42:40,890 --> 00:42:41,960 she wants a relationship 810 00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:44,540 but she wants somebody who has a common interest. 811 00:42:44,540 --> 00:42:46,820 If she had met this person face to face in real life, 812 00:42:46,820 --> 00:42:48,170 it never would've happened. 813 00:42:50,386 --> 00:42:53,136 (tranquil music) 814 00:43:09,450 --> 00:43:11,810 - Justice can never be served, you know, 815 00:43:11,810 --> 00:43:12,730 with something like this 816 00:43:12,730 --> 00:43:14,853 no matter what the court decides. 817 00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:19,740 Somebody to take away the beautiful life of somebody else 818 00:43:19,740 --> 00:43:21,773 is just a really sad situation. 819 00:43:23,430 --> 00:43:28,000 I feel cheated, you know, because we were always close 820 00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,192 and we always had a great friendship 821 00:43:30,192 --> 00:43:33,150 and I could only imagine 822 00:43:33,150 --> 00:43:35,333 what our friendship could be like today. 823 00:43:36,502 --> 00:43:39,252 (mournful music) 824 00:43:43,980 --> 00:43:45,763 - I miss my mom very much. 825 00:43:47,950 --> 00:43:49,400 She always smiled. 826 00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:51,263 She always looked so happy. 827 00:43:53,423 --> 00:43:55,960 And, you know, I try to live my life the way that she did. 828 00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:58,290 I try to smile because people around you 829 00:43:58,290 --> 00:44:00,423 are always happier when you're happy. 830 00:44:01,300 --> 00:44:02,480 She brightened my day. 831 00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:04,890 My kids, oh they loved their grandma. 832 00:44:04,890 --> 00:44:07,500 They miss their grandma so much. 833 00:44:07,500 --> 00:44:10,250 (mournful music) 834 00:44:13,922 --> 00:44:16,672 (mournful music) 64218

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