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(phone vibrating)
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- [Sean] 91 million of us worldwide
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search for love online.
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- She was looking for love.
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- She wanted someone that would
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give her the freedom to be herself.
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- He looked like a normal, nice guy.
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(intense music)
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(radio chatter)
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- [Sean] But internet dating
can be a dangerous game.
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(suspenseful music)
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- [Female] The mother of two small boys
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reported missing early Sunday morning.
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- [Sean] In the U.K. alone, crime linked
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to online dating has risen
450% over five years.
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- This is a predator's paradise.
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- It's that dark side of the web
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that people don't realize exists.
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- [Sean] These are the
real life love stories
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that ended in tragedy.
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- Each day, she was living in fear.
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- I knew that he was no angel,
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but he really had me tricked.
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- [Sean] So how well do you really know
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the person you're dating?
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- She didn't stand a chance
against that monster of a man.
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(camera whirring)
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(dramatic music)
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(mellow music)
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- Yavapai County is very unique.
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We have approximately 140 sworn officers
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that patrol over 8,000 square miles.
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The county itself is a lot of rural,
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Western small communities,
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15 to 30 miles apart from each other.
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(mellow music)
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Typically the crimes we
encounter in these areas
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are things like theft
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and small burglaries.
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We experience in the neighborhood of
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nine to 12 homicide related
investigations a year.
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It's not that many,
only about one a month.
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(mellow music)
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(train passing)
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(dramatic music)
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(phone ringing)
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- [Dispatcher] 911,
what is your emergency?
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- [Robert] My girlfriend shot me.
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I'm not gonna make it.
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She shot me two times in the chest.
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- [Dispatcher] Sir, slow down for me.
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- [Robert] I got shot like two times.
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She shot me two times!
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I think I'm bleeding to death.
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(mournful music)
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- My mother was great lady.
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She was a very kind woman,
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a great mother, super duper grandmother.
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- Lorraine was very mellow, soft-spoken,
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and she was just a really good person
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that you just couldn't help but like.
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- She was maybe a little
quiet and a little reserved
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but when you actually got to know her,
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you saw what a sweet woman that she was
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and how much she loves her family.
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She was just a very
caring, very warm person,
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so full of life, so full of energy.
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- [Sean] 62 year old, Lorraine Long,
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lived and worked in Phoenix, Arizona.
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- She was a flight attendant
which really surprised me
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because my mom was afraid of heights.
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My mom loved it.
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She was, she called
herself the Hawaii Queen
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because whenever she could get
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a flight to Hawaii, she took it.
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- [Sean] Lorraine was
married to Garnet Long,
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and together they raised
their two children
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but it was a troubled relationship.
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- When we were young, they had
kind of a rocky relationship.
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My dad was an alcoholic so
childhood was a little different.
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- [Sean] Despite their difficulties,
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the couple purchased a piece of land
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in a remote but beautiful
corner of the state,
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close to the small town of Seligman,
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which lies on historic Route 66.
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They built a small ranch house,
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accessed only by a series
of primitive dirt roads.
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- My dad bought that as a retirement home
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for him, my mom and my grandma.
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It was out in the boonies
and my dad loved it.
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I mean, we would put corn feeders out
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and they would, my mom and him,
would sit down on the porch
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and watch the deer come.
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So it was like a place to go for serenity.
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(tranquil music)
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- [Sean] But the couple never got
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to live out their retirement dreams.
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Garnet developed cancer and died in 2006.
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Finding herself alone,
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Lorraine decided to try online dating.
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- She just wanted some
sort of companionship.
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- I think that was her way of
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getting over her loneliness.
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- It sounds to me like Lorraine
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had been through an awful in her life.
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Her husband had been an alcoholic.
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She'd cared for him, he'd passed away.
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Our frame of mind, everything
we've been through,
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all of that contributes
to our decision making
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so she was more vulnerable.
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- [Sean] At first, Lorraine didn't have
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much success with online dating.
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- She was pulling up some pictures.
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I was shocked.
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I mean, they were showing genitals
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and I'm like (gasping) is that for real?
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People really do that?
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She goes, "Oh yeah, that's nothing."
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And I'm like, "Why are you doing that?
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"You're so beautiful.
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"You fly.
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"You see so many people
every day on a daily basis.
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"You know, why don't
you just take a chance
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"and get to know somebody,
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"'cause anybody can tell you
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"what they want you to
hear on a computer."
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(suspenseful music)
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But it seemed like everyone
she picked, they had issues.
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Actually, one of them tried to rape her
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and she was able to get out of that one.
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(dramatic music)
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- Dating is different for everybody
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so when you see a dating website,
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what does that mean, dating?
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For some people, it means, literally,
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I'm gonna go on a date and have dinner.
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We're gonna go to a movie.
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It's about having a
relationship with somebody.
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For somebody else, dating
might mean just having sex.
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So it's a matter of perception
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of what that dating is all about.
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For other people, it's
about being predatorial.
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It's about finding victims.
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It's about exploiting people.
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It's about controlling people.
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It's that dark side of the web
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that people don't realize exists.
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(tranquil music)
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- [Sean] In 2009, Lorraine finally met
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someone online who seemed
like a great match.
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His name was Robert Wiesner
and he was 10 years her junior.
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They met for coffee at a local bookstore
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and immediately hit it off.
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- She thought he was good looking.
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He liked to hike and she
really liked to hike.
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- I remember her talking about him
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and how excited she was
to meet this individual
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and he made her happy and
seemed to give her the attention
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that she was looking for.
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- [Sean] Robert was from out
of state and like Lorraine,
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he had grown up children
from a previous relationship.
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She told friends that he
made her feel young again
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and the relationship flourished.
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But Lorraine's friends and family
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detected another side to Robert,
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one that made them uncomfortable.
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- Maybe a little awkward,
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would be the best way to explain it.
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- I thought he was arrogant.
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I thought he was 50 trying to look 30.
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- I tried to get along with him
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because it made my mom happy,
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so if she was happy, I was happy.
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- His physical appearance
was I guess very metrosexual,
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I guess would be the right term.
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You know, trying to,
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you know, just trying to be
somebody that he really wasn't.
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- And I asked him, I said,
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"You think a lot of yourself, hey?"
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He goes, "Oh, of course I do.
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"I dye my hair, I tan, I workout daily."
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- It's clear that Robert Wiesner
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has a lot of narcicisstic traits.
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The way he took care of
himself was eccentric.
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And by the way, I think
narcissism actually is underrated.
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I think it's important to have
a little bit of narcissism
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because it drives you to perfection.
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It's kinda like a little
bit of salt is good for you.
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Too much salt will kill you.
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Too much narcissism kills
everybody around you.
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- [Sean] Robert's vanity
seemed to put him at odds
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with Lorraine's love of life.
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- She told me that she
took him to Hawaii one time
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and he wouldn't even
put his feet in the sand
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'cause he didn't want
to get his feet dirty.
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And I said, "That's unusual,
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"because that's the whole
reason you go to Hawaii
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"is to go to the beach,"
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and that was the place that she loved most
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so she wanted to share it with him.
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And I said, "Mom," I go,
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"I don't think this is
the person for you."
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- [Sean] At the time he
started dating Lorraine,
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Robert didn't have a steady job
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and led a transient lifestyle.
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- My mom did very well.
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I mean, she had properties
that were paid off
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and she was a very smart,
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my dad was a smart business
person but taught her well.
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So she had to pay for everything
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because he didn't have a job.
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- [Sean] Despite his lack of income,
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Robert lavished a great deal
of time and care on his car.
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- It was a Ford Mustang
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and it was immaculate,
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and it also had tuned exhaust
and it was extremely loud.
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(engine revving)
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I could hear him before I ever saw him.
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He had a vanity plate and it was Hot Stud.
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And I thought that was kinda funny.
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You know, for a guy 50 years old.
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- And I asked him, I say, "Oh, Hot Stud?
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"Really Robert, you
think you're all that?"
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And he says, "Well your mom don't mind
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"me having it on there."
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- He was so into that car.
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I remember he would wash it all the time.
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I think the one time he even made Lorraine
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keep her car in the driveway
after he washed the car
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and he put his in the garage
so that it would stay clean.
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- Robert has this Ford Mustang.
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It's black.
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It's all decked out.
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It's his pride and joy is his car
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and most people don't look
at their cars that way
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but that was all he had.
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He had this one car.
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And he was trying to convince
people, "Look at my car.
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"It says Hot Stud on the license plate.
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"That's what I really am."
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It was like he was trying
to convince himself
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that's who he is.
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(ominous music)
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- [Sean] Not long after
the couple got together,
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Lorraine moved to a new home
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in the up-market Scottsdale area,
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on the outskirts of Phoenix.
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- She just wanted to
be out of the rat race.
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She wanted to be out of the neighborhood.
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She wanted to
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kind of be out in the desert.
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She wanted a little more freedom.
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(ominous music)
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- [Sean] The fact that
Lorraine now owned three houses
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made her something of a catch.
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- He knew she was well off.
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He knew what she owned
and he thought he could
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get a piece of what she
had if they got married,
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then he would be set for life.
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I think that's what the thing was.
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- [Sean] But Lorraine wanted
to take things more slowly.
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- She told him if he could
hold a job for a year,
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then she would consider
letting him move in with her.
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- I know he wanted to
take things a lot faster
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than what she was hoping.
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You know, he probably
would've been very happy
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if just the two of them,
you know, ran off somewhere.
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- [Sean] But as the
relationship progressed,
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friends and family started
seeing tell-tale signs
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that Robert was growing
increasingly jealous.
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- Robert was very controlling.
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He would call her all the time.
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If she was on the computer, he could tell,
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and he would be right on there,
"Who are you talking to?"
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And Christmas, he made
her change four outfits
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before the outfit she
had on was appropriate
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for her to wear to her Christmas party.
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- It sounds like Robert was
trying to control Lorraine
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and keep her under his influence,
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keep her doing what he wanted her to do
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and also make sure that
other external influences
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weren't taking her away from him.
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That could've been because
of underlying insecurities,
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keep the person close,
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make sure that you're the
only person of support.
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Ultimately this is really
unhealthy in a relationship
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and it's a sign of abuse when
someone's trying to control
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who you interact with and
who you spend time with.
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- [Sean] Though Robert
often expressed his desire
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to marry Lorraine, he harbored
a secret side to his life.
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He maintained an online
profile and dated other women.
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- Robert was on several dating sites
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and my mom also found out about that,
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and he also called her liar.
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Once again, she's crazy.
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It's all in her head.
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So she pulled up the site and showed him,
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"Oh somebody else must've did it."
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Always deny, deny, deny and I told her,
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"You know, it's the one
that's always denying
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"that's the doer and I know
it's hard for you to see that
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"because your heart plays
crazy things on your mind,
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"but that's the truth."
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- [Sean] Not only was Robert Wiesner
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exhibiting controlling behavior,
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he also demonstrated that he
possessed an explosive temper.
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- My mom had a dog that my
grandma watched Robert kick.
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(ominous music)
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- That's definitely a red flag.
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If somebody's gonna get angry at a dog
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and do something like that.
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However, you know, when we're blind,
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we think we're blinded by love we'll do
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whatever we can to try to make it work.
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- [Sean] Trying to keep
the relationship together,
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Lorraine even found Robert some work.
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- She got him a job at
a car lot selling cars.
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He sold one car and then
he was late for work,
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got in an argument with
the manager out there
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and they fired him.
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And he just kept on mooching.
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(ominous music)
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- [Sean] With Robert
unable to hold down a job,
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Lorraine finally decided to call it quits.
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- My mom was trying to get rid of him.
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I think my mom was afraid of Robert.
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She wasn't sure of what Robert
would be capable of doing.
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(ominous music)
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- [Sean] On the first of March, 2010,
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around a year after they first met,
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Lorraine's fears came true.
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- She was at the airport
waiting on the bus
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to take her to her car
lot and Robert showed up.
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And one of her friends
happened to be with her.
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Robert demanded that she talk to him.
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Lorraine's colleague tried to protect her.
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She had warned him that
Robert always carried a gun.
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(intense music)
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- [Sean] After a standoff,
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an angry Robert finally
left Lorraine alone.
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Frightened by the incident,
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Lorraine asked her friends
and family for advice.
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- We discussed it and I asked
her straight out, I said,
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"Are you done with Robert?"
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She said, "Yes."
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I said, "Now what you need to do is,
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"you need go to the paperwork.
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"You need to get your restraining order."
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(intense music)
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- [Sean] Lorraine took out
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an order of protection against Robert,
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hoping this would draw a
line under the relationship,
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but it didn't go down well.
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- The police said when he got
served, he was pure white.
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You know, it was very unexpected.
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Something that he didn't
think that she would do
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because she was so kindhearted.
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- One never wants to wound a narcissist
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and they take it very, very personally.
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Healthy people understand
relationships break up
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and we move on, but a
narcissist, for them,
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that's a personal attack
and they don't forget.
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- [Sean] Despite the order of protection,
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Robert didn't give up.
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- Everywhere it seemed that
she went, he would show up,
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and my son said to me,
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"You know Mom, Grandma says
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"somebody is peeking through the shades,"
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but every time she went and
looked, there was nobody there.
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You know, he was just antagonizing her.
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- I asked her, "Do you have a gun?"
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She said, "Yes, I do."
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I said, "Do you know how to use it?"
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She says, "Yes, I do."
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I said, "I would keep
it with you all the time
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"when you're in the house."
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- She called me and she
mentioned that Robert
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kept calling her over
and over and over again,
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and she kept telling Robert, she's like,
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"We're done, we're not
gonna get back together."
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(intense music)
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(phone ringing)
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(intense music)
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(phone ringing)
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- [Dispatcher] 911,
what is your emergency?
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- [Robert] My girlfriend shot me
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then I tried to get the gun away from her
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and she shot herself so,
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we need medical assistance immediately.
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- [Dispatcher] What's your name, Sir?
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- [Robert] Robert.
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- [Dispatcher] Robert,
what's your last name?
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- [Robert] Wiesner.
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I'm not gonna make it.
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- [Dispatcher] I need to know
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a better location of where you are, Sir.
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- [Robert] Exit mile marker 109.
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You take it 13 miles south.
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- [Sean] The desperate 911 call
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came from a remote
corner of Yavapai County.
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(intense music)
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- Myself and Deputy Slay
got in our patrol vehicles
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and started heading that way.
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- [Sean] The location of
the call was so remote,
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it would take officers nearly
45 minutes to get there.
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- [Robert] Well I think
I'm bleeding to death.
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I think I should get in my car
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and start driving towards that way.
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- [Dispatcher] Okay, what's
your girlfriend's name?
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- [Robert] Lorraine.
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- [Dispatcher] Where did it all start?
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- [Robert] I was bending
over to tie my shoes
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and all of a sudden, she pulls a gun out
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and shoots me three times in the chest.
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- [Dispatcher] I know, we know that.
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What did she shoot you with?
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- [Robert] Her .357 magnum.
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I'm not gonna make it.
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I think I'm bleeding to death.
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- We kept on getting the updates
that he was having problems
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due to the gunshot wounds to the chest.
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- [Sean] Eventually, officers spotted
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the caller's vehicle,
a silver Dodge Avenger.
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- When I arrived on scene,
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the car was parked on
the side of the shoulder.
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- [Sean] Police found Robert Wiesner
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bleeding at the side of the road.
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- I could see that there
was an odd shaped injury
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looked like it could've
been a gunshot wound,
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which I perceived it to be going from
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the left side to the right side.
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Appeared to have just
grazed going across his body
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(dramatic music)
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and a wound to his right shoulder
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that appeared to be a gunshot wound.
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- [Sean] But he was not the only casualty.
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- The vehicle was not cleared
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and I began a clearing of the vehicle.
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(dramatic music)
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00:23:17,141 --> 00:23:19,808
(ominous music)
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- [Sean] Detective Lopez
found the body of a woman
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in the back seat of the Dodge Avenger.
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(dramatic music)
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It was Lorraine.
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- She was cold to the touch.
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Her body was stiffened
already from rigor mortis
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and it was evident to me
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that she had not recently passed away.
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- [Sean] Lorraine had two
gunshot wounds to the chest.
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The lack of blood in the car indicated
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that she had not died in that vehicle.
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- Her shorts weren't
pulled up all the way,
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which, exposing her pelvic area
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which I perceived as quite odd.
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But it would've been
consistent with somebody trying
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to pull somebody in and the
shorts falling down the legs.
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- [Sean] Police now began the task
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of piecing together what happened.
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In order to do so, they needed to find
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where Lorraine had died.
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Police went to Lorraine's Scottsdale home
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to notify her family but
what they found there
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raised yet more questions.
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- The responding agency
actually called me back
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to let me know that they had found more
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than just a next of kin at the house.
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(intense music)
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- The Scottsdale residence,
on the back patio,
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we found a black backpack
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with some loaded pistol magazines.
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We also found the back window
to the residence broken out
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and Lorraine's cell
phone was actually left
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sitting on the bed next to her laptop
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and some bills and other documents.
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It appears she just took
off her reading glasses
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and then left everything
like that undisturbed.
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- [Sean] Police found blood
around the window frame,
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suggesting a break in,
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but no more blood was found here.
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Police quickly realized that this
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was not the location of the shooting.
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- I had come home that day
and I saw the police units
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the sheriff's units across the street
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and I said, "But is Lorraine's
car in the driveway?"
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And they said, "No,
Lorraine's car is up north."
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I said, "Okay."
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And I said, "So have
you found Robert's car?"
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And they said, "No,
they haven't found it."
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00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:02,420
And I said, "Okay,"
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I said, "Do you want
me to go look for it?"
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I said, "I think I could find it."
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And he said, "Well, where
are you gonna look?"
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I said, "Well, Robert would
not have drove up west of me
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"because he would've had to come by me
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"and I woulda heard his car
and known he was there."
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- [Sean] Randy located Wiesner's Mustang
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hidden behind bushes on the other side
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of the intersection just below the house.
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Inside, detectives found
ammunition, binoculars,
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a stun gun, and a balaclava ski mask,
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suggesting some sort of
abduction may have been planned.
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They also found a receipt for
a nearby fast food restaurant,
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proving he'd been in the area
at 6:15 the night before.
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Meanwhile, Lorraine's daughter
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was starting to worry about her mother.
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- I didn't know what was going on.
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I was calling her all day.
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And I kept calling her and then
510
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I started getting angry at her.
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I'm like, "Mom, I've called you all day.
512
00:27:12,557 --> 00:27:14,517
"You have not called me back, you know,
513
00:27:14,517 --> 00:27:16,527
"that is not like you.
514
00:27:16,527 --> 00:27:18,017
"I'm really angry, you know?
515
00:27:18,017 --> 00:27:18,997
"What have I done?
516
00:27:18,997 --> 00:27:20,617
"Have I done something?"
517
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:27,023
And then that afternoon,
the sheriffs called me.
518
00:27:30,130 --> 00:27:33,023
I felt almost empty inside.
519
00:27:34,045 --> 00:27:36,795
(mournful music)
520
00:27:39,210 --> 00:27:40,923
You're never prepared.
521
00:27:42,394 --> 00:27:45,144
(mournful music)
522
00:27:50,410 --> 00:27:52,740
I just felt hollow inside.
523
00:27:52,740 --> 00:27:55,690
I just couldn't understand how
somebody could be so brutal.
524
00:27:57,394 --> 00:28:00,144
(mournful music)
525
00:28:02,234 --> 00:28:04,090
(dramatic music)
526
00:28:04,090 --> 00:28:06,477
- [Sean] Police visited
Wiesner in hospital
527
00:28:06,477 --> 00:28:08,623
but they found him unwilling to talk.
528
00:28:10,113 --> 00:28:11,820
- [Officer] For us to proceed
with this investigation,
529
00:28:11,820 --> 00:28:15,010
we have to get an idea from you.
530
00:28:15,010 --> 00:28:16,940
- [Robert] I think I need counsel.
531
00:28:16,940 --> 00:28:19,666
- [Officer] Okay, so you
want to wait for an attorney?
532
00:28:19,666 --> 00:28:21,100
- [Robert] Yeah.
533
00:28:21,100 --> 00:28:24,670
- Mr. Wiesner indicated
that he did not wish
534
00:28:24,670 --> 00:28:27,840
to provide any statement
to law enforcement
535
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:31,130
after he had invoked his
rights to request an attorney.
536
00:28:31,130 --> 00:28:34,290
So at that point, all we
know is that Mr. Wiesner
537
00:28:34,290 --> 00:28:37,790
was claiming that Ms. Long
538
00:28:37,790 --> 00:28:40,823
had attempted to shoot
him for unknown reasons.
539
00:28:41,860 --> 00:28:44,180
- [Sean] Medical examination of his wounds
540
00:28:44,180 --> 00:28:46,363
seemed to contradict his earlier account.
541
00:28:47,310 --> 00:28:49,890
- Mr. Wiesner indicated
during the 911 call
542
00:28:49,890 --> 00:28:51,460
that he did not think he was gonna make it
543
00:28:51,460 --> 00:28:53,460
because he had been shot multiple times.
544
00:28:54,870 --> 00:28:58,040
He did have what was determined
to be a gunshot wound
545
00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:00,230
to his upper chest, however,
546
00:29:00,230 --> 00:29:02,630
what it was determined is that one shot
547
00:29:02,630 --> 00:29:05,320
had actually gone
sideways across his chest,
548
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:08,270
entered just enough below the skin,
549
00:29:08,270 --> 00:29:09,720
traveled underneath the skin
550
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:11,220
approximately two to three inches,
551
00:29:11,220 --> 00:29:13,450
and then exited right back out
552
00:29:13,450 --> 00:29:15,270
across the front of his chest.
553
00:29:15,270 --> 00:29:17,470
His injuries were
actually very superficial.
554
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:20,730
- [Sean] Police also
noticed other injuries
555
00:29:20,730 --> 00:29:23,120
that aroused their suspicion.
556
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:27,633
- What was interesting is
that he had cuts to his hands.
557
00:29:28,940 --> 00:29:30,940
On the inside of his hands,
558
00:29:30,940 --> 00:29:34,160
and a cut on the outside
of one of his hands.
559
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:36,340
The cuts, we determined, were consistent
560
00:29:36,340 --> 00:29:38,600
with grabbing the windowsill
561
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:40,300
and pulling yourself into the house
562
00:29:40,300 --> 00:29:42,750
and entering the home
through that broken window.
563
00:29:44,682 --> 00:29:47,349
(intense music)
564
00:29:50,500 --> 00:29:53,400
- [Sean] Yavapai detectives
located and gained entry
565
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,553
to Lorraine's Seligman ranch house.
566
00:29:56,525 --> 00:29:58,600
(intense music)
567
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:03,116
They quickly realized that this
was the scene of the crime.
568
00:30:03,116 --> 00:30:05,620
(intense music)
569
00:30:05,620 --> 00:30:08,430
- The couch in the living room area
570
00:30:08,430 --> 00:30:11,440
had been slid from its place of rest
571
00:30:12,510 --> 00:30:14,830
across the front door,
blocking the front door
572
00:30:14,830 --> 00:30:16,473
as an exist or entrance point.
573
00:30:18,690 --> 00:30:20,830
And then in the master bedroom area,
574
00:30:20,830 --> 00:30:23,623
we found at least two bullet holes.
575
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:28,330
One of them was at a downward angle
576
00:30:28,330 --> 00:30:29,793
based on its trajectory.
577
00:30:31,180 --> 00:30:35,280
Another bullet was located
in the bedroom door
578
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:37,990
and from the trajectory of that bullet,
579
00:30:37,990 --> 00:30:40,910
it was clearly an upward
angle though at that point,
580
00:30:40,910 --> 00:30:44,660
all we knew is that Mr.
Wiesner was claiming
581
00:30:44,660 --> 00:30:48,320
that Ms. Long had attempted to shoot him
582
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:52,480
for unknown reasons and
when he tried to disarm her,
583
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,137
that there was a struggle over the gun
584
00:30:55,137 --> 00:30:56,850
and that the gun had gone off
585
00:30:56,850 --> 00:30:58,450
during the struggle for the gun.
586
00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:01,870
- [Sean] Firearms expert, Philip Boyce,
587
00:31:01,870 --> 00:31:04,893
has analyzed the ballistics
and crime scene evidence.
588
00:31:06,490 --> 00:31:08,980
- The evidence from the scene indicates
589
00:31:08,980 --> 00:31:11,160
that there were five bullet holes,
590
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:14,220
three of which were somewhat
erratic in trajectory
591
00:31:14,220 --> 00:31:17,180
and two of which seem to
have gone through the floor.
592
00:31:17,180 --> 00:31:19,530
This would actually possibly support
593
00:31:19,530 --> 00:31:21,180
that the perpetrator said there was
594
00:31:21,180 --> 00:31:23,570
some sort of fight or argument going on
595
00:31:23,570 --> 00:31:25,653
when the weapon was fired.
596
00:31:29,030 --> 00:31:30,960
- [Sean] But police
still needed to work out
597
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:32,803
who had really shot who.
598
00:31:34,220 --> 00:31:36,930
Wiesner claimed that Lorraine had shot him
599
00:31:36,930 --> 00:31:39,543
and then shot herself in
a struggle over the gun.
600
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:42,840
But the autopsy on Lorraine's body
601
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:44,840
suggested a different version of events
602
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,283
to the one that Wiesner
had told the police.
603
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:51,840
- This is a sample of pig skin,
604
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:55,460
which we actually use for test firing
605
00:31:55,460 --> 00:32:00,052
because it represents, as
close as possible, human skin.
606
00:32:00,052 --> 00:32:02,719
(intense music)
607
00:32:05,770 --> 00:32:07,180
So what we're actually going to do
608
00:32:07,180 --> 00:32:08,900
is we're going to shoot the pig skin
609
00:32:08,900 --> 00:32:12,460
at a series of ranges,
starting off at six inches,
610
00:32:12,460 --> 00:32:15,780
and comparing the tattooing or stippling
611
00:32:15,780 --> 00:32:17,183
with that on the deceased.
612
00:32:19,500 --> 00:32:24,150
In a typical homicide
investigation involving firearms,
613
00:32:24,150 --> 00:32:26,540
you're looking at trajectories of shots
614
00:32:26,540 --> 00:32:30,130
that have been fired, any
injuries or fatalities,
615
00:32:30,130 --> 00:32:34,220
and range of fire to
ascertain who did the shooting
616
00:32:34,220 --> 00:32:36,260
and from what distance.
617
00:32:36,260 --> 00:32:37,950
Some of the key things
that we're looking for
618
00:32:37,950 --> 00:32:42,170
in terms of range of fire is
what we term powder tattooing
619
00:32:42,170 --> 00:32:44,820
or some people refer to it as stippling
620
00:32:44,820 --> 00:32:49,820
where a propellant is a discharge
from the muzzle of the gun
621
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:53,660
and it actually penetrates the skin,
622
00:32:53,660 --> 00:32:56,031
leaving a permanent mark.
623
00:32:56,031 --> 00:32:57,210
(gun firing)
624
00:32:57,210 --> 00:32:58,480
- [Sean] Philip fires the gun
625
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:00,283
from three different distances.
626
00:33:04,691 --> 00:33:06,680
(gun firing)
627
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,830
- Here we have three of the
targets that we fired at,
628
00:33:09,830 --> 00:33:12,290
one is six inches, and
you can see the tattooing
629
00:33:12,290 --> 00:33:13,660
or stippling out to here,
630
00:33:13,660 --> 00:33:17,620
one at 18 inches, you
can see its out to here,
631
00:33:17,620 --> 00:33:20,860
and one at 24 inches, you
can see its out to here.
632
00:33:20,860 --> 00:33:23,090
It would indicate to me the range of fire
633
00:33:23,090 --> 00:33:28,090
is somewhere between 18 and 24
inches and having said that,
634
00:33:28,220 --> 00:33:30,710
more towards the 24 inches.
635
00:33:30,710 --> 00:33:33,290
Information that was available to me,
636
00:33:33,290 --> 00:33:36,420
it was allegedly that
she had shot herself.
637
00:33:36,420 --> 00:33:38,870
Given that, and the fact
that she had stippling
638
00:33:38,870 --> 00:33:40,220
on the back of her hands,
639
00:33:40,220 --> 00:33:43,030
I would say the perpetrator
had to be at least
640
00:33:43,030 --> 00:33:48,030
24 inches from her and the
wounds were not self-inflicted.
641
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:51,820
- [Sean] Having studied the case,
642
00:33:51,820 --> 00:33:54,270
Philip believes that it's
possible to ascertain
643
00:33:54,270 --> 00:33:58,360
even more information from
Lorraine's two gunshot wounds.
644
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:02,220
The autopsy indicates that
both exits were shored,
645
00:34:02,220 --> 00:34:05,860
meaning that the skin of the body
646
00:34:05,860 --> 00:34:09,310
was against a hard or semi-hard surface.
647
00:34:09,310 --> 00:34:14,110
This would indicate to
me that the deceased
648
00:34:14,110 --> 00:34:16,900
had been sitting for the first shot,
649
00:34:16,900 --> 00:34:20,360
which was in contact with her lower back
650
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:21,680
and then when she fell,
651
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:24,240
she was still in contact with the floor
652
00:34:24,240 --> 00:34:25,680
with the second shot.
653
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:27,400
This would mean that the perpetrator
654
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:29,573
was most likely standing over her.
655
00:34:32,156 --> 00:34:34,516
(gun firing)
656
00:34:34,516 --> 00:34:36,350
(intense music)
657
00:34:36,350 --> 00:34:38,320
- [Sean] Investigators secured a warrant
658
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:40,780
to access mobile phone records.
659
00:34:40,780 --> 00:34:43,420
- So we recovered Lorraine's cell phone
660
00:34:43,420 --> 00:34:46,190
from her residence and we
recovered Mr. Wiesner's cell phone
661
00:34:46,190 --> 00:34:48,590
from the vehicle where
deputies located him.
662
00:34:48,590 --> 00:34:50,060
We also obtained cell phone records
663
00:34:50,060 --> 00:34:52,220
from both their providers.
664
00:34:52,220 --> 00:34:55,190
Using that information, we
were able to create a timeline
665
00:34:55,190 --> 00:34:57,490
and kind of create a map of the movement
666
00:34:57,490 --> 00:34:59,163
involved with this incident.
667
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:02,580
- [Sean] Police were
able to piece together
668
00:35:02,580 --> 00:35:04,710
what they believe happened in the hours
669
00:35:04,710 --> 00:35:06,643
leading up to Lorraine's death.
670
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:11,640
- So this is the residence at
which Mr. Wiesner was staying
671
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:14,017
in the center part of Scottdale.
672
00:35:14,017 --> 00:35:15,320
At the beginning part of the day,
673
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:17,030
he was sending text messages
674
00:35:17,030 --> 00:35:19,244
and making phone calls to Lorraine.
675
00:35:19,244 --> 00:35:21,911
(phone ringing)
676
00:35:23,260 --> 00:35:25,670
Mr. Wiesner becomes increasingly desperate
677
00:35:25,670 --> 00:35:27,834
as these messages continue.
678
00:35:27,834 --> 00:35:30,885
(soft tone)
679
00:35:30,885 --> 00:35:33,218
(soft tone)
680
00:35:34,285 --> 00:35:35,118
(soft tone)
681
00:35:35,118 --> 00:35:38,464
Lorraine texts Mr. Wiesner at 5:38.
682
00:35:38,464 --> 00:35:40,433
(soft tone)
683
00:35:40,433 --> 00:35:42,766
(soft tone)
684
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:44,913
(soft tone)
685
00:35:44,913 --> 00:35:47,403
Robert responds to Lorraine
that she's all he wants.
686
00:35:50,150 --> 00:35:52,360
At 6:40 pm, Robert had already traveled
687
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:53,820
well North in Scottsdale
688
00:35:53,820 --> 00:35:55,973
in the direction of Lorraine's residence.
689
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:02,610
At 8:12 pm, Mr. Wiesner
places a phone call,
690
00:36:02,610 --> 00:36:05,363
very close to Lorraine's residence.
691
00:36:08,170 --> 00:36:12,603
Approximately 9 pm, Mr. Wiesner
arrived in his Ford Mustang.
692
00:36:15,848 --> 00:36:18,515
(intense music)
693
00:36:22,910 --> 00:36:24,240
We think Mr. Wiesner crossed
694
00:36:24,240 --> 00:36:26,860
between two of the vacant residences
695
00:36:26,860 --> 00:36:29,933
and entered this wash
behind Lorraine's residence.
696
00:36:32,460 --> 00:36:34,950
Based on shoe impressions
we found in this wash,
697
00:36:34,950 --> 00:36:36,890
he had then walked a short distance
698
00:36:38,220 --> 00:36:41,223
and we found shoe impressions
leading up to her back patio.
699
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:44,280
- [Sean] Evidence showed he was carrying
700
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:47,703
his own Glock handgun as
he approached the house.
701
00:36:50,690 --> 00:36:54,720
- Mr. Wiesner came up to the
back window to the family room.
702
00:36:54,720 --> 00:36:57,510
He was carrying a heavy metal tow hitch,
703
00:36:57,510 --> 00:36:58,710
like from a pickup truck
704
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:02,360
and he threw it through this window.
705
00:37:03,331 --> 00:37:06,081
(dramatic music)
706
00:37:07,460 --> 00:37:09,610
The tow hitch Mr. Wiesner
threw in the house
707
00:37:09,610 --> 00:37:11,023
landed on this sofa here.
708
00:37:12,750 --> 00:37:15,210
This window had been shattered out
709
00:37:15,210 --> 00:37:18,010
and as he climbed through it,
it appears he cut himself.
710
00:37:18,950 --> 00:37:21,290
There's blood evidence we
found on the wall right here
711
00:37:21,290 --> 00:37:23,000
consistent with him placing his hand there
712
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,810
as he climbed in to
Lorraine's family room.
713
00:37:25,810 --> 00:37:27,390
Lorraine's bedroom was
just on the other side
714
00:37:27,390 --> 00:37:28,693
of this wall to my left.
715
00:37:30,630 --> 00:37:33,120
We found her laptop
open, her cell phone open
716
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:34,770
and some documents there.
717
00:37:34,770 --> 00:37:36,650
We believe she then
came around that corner
718
00:37:36,650 --> 00:37:39,580
and encountered Mr. Wiesner
here in her family room,
719
00:37:39,580 --> 00:37:41,570
where we believe he
abducted her at gunpoint,
720
00:37:41,570 --> 00:37:44,320
leading her out through the
laundry room to the garage.
721
00:37:46,940 --> 00:37:49,840
Mr. Wiesner, we believe, forced
Lorraine into her vehicle.
722
00:37:51,140 --> 00:37:53,930
- [Sean] Neighbors saw
Lorraine's silver Dodge Avenger
723
00:37:53,930 --> 00:37:56,533
exit her driveway around 10:30 pm.
724
00:37:59,630 --> 00:38:02,100
It's possible that
Lorraine drove her own car
725
00:38:02,100 --> 00:38:04,963
for the three and a half
hours to her Seligman ranch,
726
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,729
held at gunpoint by Wiesner.
727
00:38:09,729 --> 00:38:12,396
(intense music)
728
00:38:19,980 --> 00:38:23,140
They would've arrived sometime after 2 am.
729
00:38:23,140 --> 00:38:25,910
- During that journey, he
would've been in control,
730
00:38:25,910 --> 00:38:28,010
so Lorraine had tried to pull away
731
00:38:28,010 --> 00:38:29,720
but Robert had regained that control,
732
00:38:29,720 --> 00:38:31,423
even though it was through force.
733
00:38:34,370 --> 00:38:37,570
- [Sean] Only Wiesner
knows what happened next,
734
00:38:37,570 --> 00:38:39,970
but it seems likely that Lorraine's plan
735
00:38:39,970 --> 00:38:43,010
was to make things feel
as normal as possible.
736
00:38:43,010 --> 00:38:45,440
- In that living room, there
was an entertainment center
737
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:48,520
that had multiple movies
spilled out onto the floor,
738
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:50,470
as if someone had been watching movies.
739
00:38:51,310 --> 00:38:53,773
There was food and drink
prepared in the kitchen.
740
00:38:56,290 --> 00:38:59,640
- [Sean] At some stage,
they moved into the bedroom.
741
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:02,470
- Wiesner had no idea that the family
742
00:39:02,470 --> 00:39:05,463
kept a gun in the dresser
up at that residence.
743
00:39:08,070 --> 00:39:11,883
It is believed that Ms. Long
knew that gun was still there,
744
00:39:14,620 --> 00:39:17,858
loaded and ready to
use to protect herself.
745
00:39:17,858 --> 00:39:21,390
(dramatic music)
746
00:39:21,390 --> 00:39:24,730
She took an opportunity
to pull that gun out
747
00:39:24,730 --> 00:39:26,948
and shots were fired.
748
00:39:26,948 --> 00:39:29,698
(dramatic music)
749
00:39:33,580 --> 00:39:36,190
The gun was taken from Ms. Long
750
00:39:40,130 --> 00:39:41,827
and she was shot twice in the chest.
751
00:39:41,827 --> 00:39:44,244
(gun firing)
752
00:39:47,240 --> 00:39:50,113
- He dragged her body out to the car,
753
00:39:51,790 --> 00:39:54,290
loaded her into the back of the car
754
00:39:54,290 --> 00:39:57,718
and then he called the sheriff's
office just after 4 am.
755
00:39:57,718 --> 00:39:59,770
(phone ringing)
756
00:39:59,770 --> 00:40:02,030
- [Dispatcher] 911,
what is your emergency?
757
00:40:02,030 --> 00:40:04,010
- This sounds the type of murder
758
00:40:04,010 --> 00:40:06,180
where Lorraine had tried
to end the relationship
759
00:40:06,180 --> 00:40:07,930
and Robert had taken offense at that
760
00:40:07,930 --> 00:40:10,350
and perceived that as extreme rejection
761
00:40:10,350 --> 00:40:12,160
and wanted to regain control.
762
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:14,410
So the murder in itself
could've been a revenge act
763
00:40:14,410 --> 00:40:16,740
because he was rejected or
it could've been something
764
00:40:16,740 --> 00:40:19,903
where he felt he needed to
take control of his own life.
765
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:25,010
- [Sean] Wiesner was charged with murder.
766
00:40:31,168 --> 00:40:33,160
(mournful music)
767
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:35,063
The case never went to trial.
768
00:40:35,900 --> 00:40:37,833
It took five years to resolve.
769
00:40:39,170 --> 00:40:41,460
- I feel that he was dragging it out.
770
00:40:41,460 --> 00:40:43,740
You know, that was part of
his control thing, you know,
771
00:40:43,740 --> 00:40:48,040
by dragging it out so that it
keeps going on and on and on,
772
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:50,530
whether he thought it
would delay his sentence
773
00:40:50,530 --> 00:40:52,610
or whether he through that it was
774
00:40:52,610 --> 00:40:55,140
the last way to control the situation,
775
00:40:55,140 --> 00:40:57,280
or whether he thought it would
put the family through more,
776
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,070
you know, I really don't know.
777
00:40:59,070 --> 00:41:02,683
Only Robert knows what Robert intended.
778
00:41:04,959 --> 00:41:06,390
- [Sean] Wiesner refused to accept
779
00:41:06,390 --> 00:41:08,493
responsibility for Lorraine's death.
780
00:41:10,590 --> 00:41:12,920
- Well it was prolonging and prolonging
781
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:14,867
and finally said to my brother, I said,
782
00:41:14,867 --> 00:41:18,637
"You know, let's offer him a plea bargain.
783
00:41:18,637 --> 00:41:21,967
"How about we offer 27 years?
784
00:41:21,967 --> 00:41:25,767
"By the time he gets out,
he's gonna be almost 80.
785
00:41:25,767 --> 00:41:28,087
"What kinda life is he gonna have anyway?"
786
00:41:29,660 --> 00:41:33,600
- [Sean] Eventually, on
the 7th of May, 2015,
787
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:35,943
Robert Wiesner accepted the plea bargain.
788
00:41:38,010 --> 00:41:40,470
- Wiesner accepted a plea agreement,
789
00:41:40,470 --> 00:41:43,160
where he pled guilty to a judge
790
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:47,430
for the charge of burglary as
well as second degree murder.
791
00:41:47,430 --> 00:41:49,870
As a result, Wiesner received a term
792
00:41:49,870 --> 00:41:52,410
of five years prison for the burglary,
793
00:41:52,410 --> 00:41:55,340
followed by a second consecutive charge
794
00:41:55,340 --> 00:41:58,750
of 22 years for the homicide of Ms. Long,
795
00:41:58,750 --> 00:42:00,713
for a total of 27 years in prison.
796
00:42:01,646 --> 00:42:04,313
(ominous music)
797
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:15,270
- I think online dating
sometimes leads to relationships
798
00:42:15,270 --> 00:42:16,920
that wouldn't have otherwise occurred
799
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:19,420
because people who had no prior connection
800
00:42:19,420 --> 00:42:21,300
and don't have a background information
801
00:42:21,300 --> 00:42:23,510
about the other person get
involved in a relationship
802
00:42:23,510 --> 00:42:25,300
and sometimes and very unfortunately,
803
00:42:25,300 --> 00:42:27,777
create great personal
danger for themselves.
804
00:42:27,777 --> 00:42:31,020
(ominous music)
805
00:42:31,020 --> 00:42:32,490
- In the real world, this relationship
806
00:42:32,490 --> 00:42:33,960
would never have been formed
807
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:36,870
because this woman who is successful,
808
00:42:36,870 --> 00:42:40,890
she's attractive, she knows
she's a successful person,
809
00:42:40,890 --> 00:42:41,960
she wants a relationship
810
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:44,540
but she wants somebody
who has a common interest.
811
00:42:44,540 --> 00:42:46,820
If she had met this person
face to face in real life,
812
00:42:46,820 --> 00:42:48,170
it never would've happened.
813
00:42:50,386 --> 00:42:53,136
(tranquil music)
814
00:43:09,450 --> 00:43:11,810
- Justice can never be served, you know,
815
00:43:11,810 --> 00:43:12,730
with something like this
816
00:43:12,730 --> 00:43:14,853
no matter what the court decides.
817
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:19,740
Somebody to take away the
beautiful life of somebody else
818
00:43:19,740 --> 00:43:21,773
is just a really sad situation.
819
00:43:23,430 --> 00:43:28,000
I feel cheated, you know,
because we were always close
820
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,192
and we always had a great friendship
821
00:43:30,192 --> 00:43:33,150
and I could only imagine
822
00:43:33,150 --> 00:43:35,333
what our friendship could be like today.
823
00:43:36,502 --> 00:43:39,252
(mournful music)
824
00:43:43,980 --> 00:43:45,763
- I miss my mom very much.
825
00:43:47,950 --> 00:43:49,400
She always smiled.
826
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:51,263
She always looked so happy.
827
00:43:53,423 --> 00:43:55,960
And, you know, I try to live
my life the way that she did.
828
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:58,290
I try to smile because people around you
829
00:43:58,290 --> 00:44:00,423
are always happier when you're happy.
830
00:44:01,300 --> 00:44:02,480
She brightened my day.
831
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:04,890
My kids, oh they loved their grandma.
832
00:44:04,890 --> 00:44:07,500
They miss their grandma so much.
833
00:44:07,500 --> 00:44:10,250
(mournful music)
834
00:44:13,922 --> 00:44:16,672
(mournful music)
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