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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:12,229 --> 00:00:14,579 [dramatic music] 2 00:00:14,623 --> 00:00:17,713 ♪♪ 3 00:00:24,981 --> 00:00:28,941 [air raid siren wailing] 4 00:00:28,985 --> 00:00:30,552 [Jim Jones on loudspeaker] Attention, attention. 5 00:00:30,595 --> 00:00:32,989 Every member of the community 6 00:00:33,033 --> 00:00:35,339 must come to the pavilion immediately. 7 00:00:35,383 --> 00:00:38,081 We may have an invasion. 8 00:00:38,125 --> 00:00:40,475 [dramatic music] 9 00:00:40,518 --> 00:00:43,173 [Laura Johnston Kohl] Jim said, "They're coming for our children. 10 00:00:43,217 --> 00:00:44,435 "They're coming for our children, 11 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:46,176 and so we need to stand strong." 12 00:00:48,352 --> 00:00:50,920 [Tim Carter] We were all lined up with shovels, 13 00:00:50,963 --> 00:00:54,619 and pick axes and whatever other tools were there. 14 00:00:54,663 --> 00:00:57,057 We were gonna fight. 15 00:00:59,624 --> 00:01:00,538 [dramatic music] 16 00:01:08,459 --> 00:01:11,071 [light music] 17 00:01:11,114 --> 00:01:15,510 ♪♪ 18 00:01:15,553 --> 00:01:17,425 [Jim Jones] You don't know what you're missing down here. 19 00:01:17,468 --> 00:01:19,775 These are potato chips made from plantain 20 00:01:19,818 --> 00:01:21,342 and they're more delicious, they're a combination 21 00:01:21,385 --> 00:01:22,995 of a potato chip and a French fry. 22 00:01:23,039 --> 00:01:25,737 And radishes. Mm, mm, mm. 23 00:01:25,781 --> 00:01:27,261 Here are the people at the table 24 00:01:27,304 --> 00:01:28,653 eating an afternoon snack. 25 00:01:28,697 --> 00:01:33,267 ♪♪ 26 00:01:33,310 --> 00:01:34,746 It's another sunny day. It's interesting, 27 00:01:34,790 --> 00:01:36,444 when I walk out, every time I walk out, 28 00:01:36,487 --> 00:01:38,794 as the people can verify, the rain will stop. 29 00:01:38,837 --> 00:01:41,927 So that's been amazing. [others shouting] 30 00:01:41,971 --> 00:01:43,364 [Stephan Jones] I think there were many different reasons 31 00:01:43,407 --> 00:01:45,757 people went to Jonestown. 32 00:01:45,801 --> 00:01:48,064 It had a lot to do with peer pressure. 33 00:01:48,108 --> 00:01:50,414 For many, they were probably hopeful. 34 00:01:50,458 --> 00:01:53,809 You know, we can be a happy community again. 35 00:01:53,852 --> 00:01:55,027 You all happy? You here? 36 00:01:55,071 --> 00:01:56,681 You happy, Tom?Yes. 37 00:01:56,725 --> 00:01:58,118 Everybody's happy down here, 38 00:01:58,161 --> 00:02:00,642 you can see that that's an obvious fact. 39 00:02:00,685 --> 00:02:04,341 The story was, we were going to paradise. 40 00:02:04,385 --> 00:02:08,084 The grand utopia. 41 00:02:08,128 --> 00:02:12,044 But we were trying to feed over 900 people down there. 42 00:02:13,742 --> 00:02:15,918 It was a battle we wouldn't win. 43 00:02:15,961 --> 00:02:19,051 And probably, Dad saw that. 44 00:02:19,095 --> 00:02:21,271 So the drama just escalated, 45 00:02:21,315 --> 00:02:25,145 which only weakened all of us and frightened all of us. 46 00:02:25,188 --> 00:02:29,801 And, frankly, drew us more into his own sickness. 47 00:02:31,455 --> 00:02:32,891 [Gosney] As time grew on, 48 00:02:32,935 --> 00:02:37,244 the difference in Jim Jones was very marked. 49 00:02:37,287 --> 00:02:41,073 [Stephan Jones] I think dad was feeling lost in Jonestown. 50 00:02:41,117 --> 00:02:43,293 He could no longer parade about 51 00:02:43,337 --> 00:02:46,514 and convince himself of how grand he is. 52 00:02:46,557 --> 00:02:50,735 His drug use just at that point was off the charts. 53 00:02:53,869 --> 00:02:59,048 [Guinn] He's passed out half the time in his cabin. 54 00:02:59,091 --> 00:03:02,269 He blows up physically, he's terribly bloated. 55 00:03:02,312 --> 00:03:06,011 So, instead of seeing, you know, their god-like leader, 56 00:03:06,055 --> 00:03:09,580 it's just a fat, sweaty man. 57 00:03:09,624 --> 00:03:11,713 He loses any claim to divinity 58 00:03:11,756 --> 00:03:13,323 because they're too close to him now. 59 00:03:13,367 --> 00:03:16,021 There's no place for him to go hide. 60 00:03:18,285 --> 00:03:22,550 [Gosney] The punishments did get much more severe. 61 00:03:22,593 --> 00:03:25,553 They had this hole that they put people in. 62 00:03:25,596 --> 00:03:27,685 This item called the box. 63 00:03:27,729 --> 00:03:30,340 [suspenseful music] 64 00:03:30,384 --> 00:03:33,561 People were put in there for punishment purposes. 65 00:03:33,604 --> 00:03:35,650 A person would be blindfolded 66 00:03:35,693 --> 00:03:39,393 and they would be told eels and leeches were in there. 67 00:03:42,265 --> 00:03:43,658 [Malone] Wha-- wait. 68 00:03:47,575 --> 00:03:48,967 [Malone] Dad? [Jim Jones] Put your hand in there. 69 00:03:49,011 --> 00:03:50,926 [people muttering] 70 00:03:56,236 --> 00:03:59,282 [Gosney] You couldn't trust anyone with any information. 71 00:03:59,326 --> 00:04:01,458 Children turned in their parents, 72 00:04:01,502 --> 00:04:02,894 so if anyone asked you, 73 00:04:02,938 --> 00:04:05,027 "Oh, how do you like Jonestown?" 74 00:04:05,070 --> 00:04:07,508 I love it, it's great. 75 00:04:07,551 --> 00:04:09,118 Hello, family. 76 00:04:09,161 --> 00:04:11,468 Greetings, from a truly promised land 77 00:04:11,512 --> 00:04:13,731 pre-- prepared by Father. 78 00:04:13,775 --> 00:04:15,342 Hello, family, thank Father I have a chance 79 00:04:15,385 --> 00:04:16,952 to talk to you and, uh... 80 00:04:16,995 --> 00:04:20,216 [laughter] 81 00:04:20,260 --> 00:04:23,654 [Gosney] The mail was definitely censored. 82 00:04:23,698 --> 00:04:27,049 I didn't get all the letters that were sent to me. 83 00:04:27,092 --> 00:04:28,529 If you were to write, 84 00:04:28,572 --> 00:04:30,139 basically your letter consisted of, 85 00:04:30,182 --> 00:04:31,445 "So glad I'm here. 86 00:04:31,488 --> 00:04:34,317 "Oh, Jim Jones is a wonderful leader 87 00:04:34,361 --> 00:04:36,319 and we're building a utopia." 88 00:04:36,363 --> 00:04:38,103 That was what you could write. 89 00:04:38,147 --> 00:04:41,672 It became extremely repressive. 90 00:04:41,716 --> 00:04:44,632 Somewhat like a concentration camp. 91 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:46,851 [Guinn] People say, 92 00:04:46,895 --> 00:04:48,810 "Well how could they stay?" 93 00:04:48,853 --> 00:04:50,725 And a big reason is they don't have their passports, 94 00:04:50,768 --> 00:04:52,161 they don't have money to get home. 95 00:04:52,204 --> 00:04:53,597 [all singing] 96 00:04:53,641 --> 00:04:55,164 A huge reason is that 97 00:04:55,207 --> 00:04:58,515 they remain dedicated to the cause. 98 00:04:58,559 --> 00:05:01,344 And if they do try to get away, 99 00:05:01,388 --> 00:05:04,869 there's the jungle. 100 00:05:04,913 --> 00:05:06,654 Jim Jones has 'em. 101 00:05:06,697 --> 00:05:09,744 [all singing] 102 00:05:09,787 --> 00:05:13,400 ♪ We're a happy family, yes we are ♪ 103 00:05:13,443 --> 00:05:15,793 ♪ All day long we sing a song ♪ 104 00:05:15,837 --> 00:05:17,882 ♪ Father loves us everyone ♪ 105 00:05:17,926 --> 00:05:21,669 ♪ We're a happy family, yes we are ♪ 106 00:05:21,712 --> 00:05:25,716 ♪ We're a happy family, yes we are ♪ 107 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:27,718 ♪ All day long we sing a song ♪ 108 00:05:27,762 --> 00:05:30,025 [singing fades] 109 00:05:30,068 --> 00:05:32,636 [suspenseful music] 110 00:05:44,518 --> 00:05:47,216 While the people inside this Ukiah home 111 00:05:47,259 --> 00:05:49,914 say they fear for the lives of their friends and family 112 00:05:49,958 --> 00:05:52,917 far away in that Peoples Temple in Guyana. 113 00:05:52,961 --> 00:05:57,095 That Reverend Jim Jones works in some very unexpected ways. 114 00:05:57,139 --> 00:05:59,271 But they say that talking about it is worth it. 115 00:05:59,315 --> 00:06:00,490 Well, yeah, they try to give you 116 00:06:00,534 --> 00:06:02,187 the impression that-- that, uh, 117 00:06:02,231 --> 00:06:04,451 you know, that everything you hear is not the truth 118 00:06:04,494 --> 00:06:06,844 and-- and that everything is beautiful down there. 119 00:06:06,888 --> 00:06:10,761 Somehow, Jim Jones has an ability to-- 120 00:06:10,805 --> 00:06:12,502 to control their-- their minds, 121 00:06:12,546 --> 00:06:15,723 and-- and as long as those minds are controlled, 122 00:06:15,766 --> 00:06:17,202 I--I'm afraid there-- 123 00:06:17,246 --> 00:06:19,030 there's a potential for-- for some danger. 124 00:06:19,074 --> 00:06:21,250 [Kilduff] The Concerned Relatives was the label 125 00:06:21,293 --> 00:06:23,426 for the unhappy ex-members as well as parents, 126 00:06:23,470 --> 00:06:26,908 who wanted access to the Temple's members in Guyana. 127 00:06:26,951 --> 00:06:28,953 This is not a commune, this is not a church, 128 00:06:28,997 --> 00:06:30,607 this is just insanity. 129 00:06:30,651 --> 00:06:32,348 [Kilduff] They were having no luck 130 00:06:32,392 --> 00:06:35,003 getting through to their family members. 131 00:06:35,046 --> 00:06:37,527 They were turned away, their letters were sent back 132 00:06:37,571 --> 00:06:41,183 with, uh, simplistic, kind of, "go away" messages. 133 00:06:41,226 --> 00:06:43,446 These folks were very bothered by that treatment. 134 00:06:43,490 --> 00:06:45,317 I really feel, 135 00:06:45,361 --> 00:06:46,754 and anybody can question me, 136 00:06:46,797 --> 00:06:49,060 I'll submit myself to tests, 137 00:06:49,104 --> 00:06:51,411 I'll talk to psychiatrists, whatever. 138 00:06:51,454 --> 00:06:53,543 But I believe I was brainwashed. 139 00:06:53,587 --> 00:06:55,719 [Grace Stoen] We met with the press. 140 00:06:55,763 --> 00:06:57,678 I said, you know, I was there for six years, 141 00:06:57,721 --> 00:07:00,463 I said, I know what Jim is capable of. 142 00:07:00,507 --> 00:07:03,466 [driving beat] 143 00:07:03,510 --> 00:07:06,817 ♪♪ 144 00:07:06,861 --> 00:07:10,647 My son, John, obviously was being turned against me 145 00:07:10,691 --> 00:07:15,130 and that's when I decided to fight for my son. 146 00:07:15,173 --> 00:07:18,699 [Guinn] The courts are called into play 147 00:07:18,742 --> 00:07:21,919 as Grace Stoen sues Jim Jones 148 00:07:21,963 --> 00:07:25,009 to get custody of John Victor back. 149 00:07:25,053 --> 00:07:27,098 And in fact, an arrest order, 150 00:07:27,142 --> 00:07:29,318 if he didn't comply, was being issued. 151 00:07:29,361 --> 00:07:31,146 [suspenseful music] 152 00:07:41,373 --> 00:07:42,940 [Dr. Mary Magaa] Jim Jones and the leadership 153 00:07:42,984 --> 00:07:44,551 do not want to let go 154 00:07:44,594 --> 00:07:47,162 of John Victor Stoen because symbolically, 155 00:07:47,205 --> 00:07:50,861 he represents the ability of anybody Stateside 156 00:07:50,905 --> 00:07:53,516 to get any child from Jonestown 157 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:55,562 and bring them back to America. 158 00:07:59,130 --> 00:08:01,959 [Guinn] The Guyanese court order precipitated 159 00:08:02,003 --> 00:08:05,833 what the settlers later called the six-day siege. 160 00:08:06,921 --> 00:08:08,836 [air raid siren wailing] 161 00:08:16,844 --> 00:08:18,672 Jim said, they're coming for our children, 162 00:08:18,715 --> 00:08:20,500 and so we need to stand strong. 163 00:08:22,676 --> 00:08:24,373 [Carter] We were being told that the Guyanese Army 164 00:08:24,416 --> 00:08:27,768 was coming in, and we were gonna-- to fight. 165 00:08:27,811 --> 00:08:29,334 Because, you know, if you take one of us, 166 00:08:29,378 --> 00:08:31,119 you have to take all of us kind of thing. 167 00:08:31,162 --> 00:08:34,426 [indistinct chatter] 168 00:08:34,470 --> 00:08:36,994 [Wilson] I'm sitting there thinking, 169 00:08:37,038 --> 00:08:39,519 "I wonder how I'm gonna die today." 170 00:08:39,562 --> 00:08:40,955 Are they gonna come with machine guns, 171 00:08:40,998 --> 00:08:42,260 and I'ma get shot? 172 00:08:42,304 --> 00:08:43,305 I wonder what a bullet feels like. 173 00:08:43,348 --> 00:08:44,393 [indistinct shouting] 174 00:08:44,436 --> 00:08:46,308 At 20. 175 00:08:46,351 --> 00:08:48,179 I didn't think I was gonna see 21. 176 00:09:00,278 --> 00:09:02,367 [Jones and crowd whooping] 177 00:09:20,603 --> 00:09:23,171 [air raid siren wailing] 178 00:09:23,214 --> 00:09:26,696 [Wilson] Jim told us that we were under attack by the Guyanese army. 179 00:09:26,740 --> 00:09:31,745 And we were up all night, like a human chain 180 00:09:31,788 --> 00:09:34,443 with our machetes, there's guns, there's peop-- 181 00:09:34,486 --> 00:09:35,879 the security is out. 182 00:09:38,708 --> 00:09:41,319 We'd stand there and then after a while Jim would say, 183 00:09:41,363 --> 00:09:43,583 "Well, they're not gonna come tonight." 184 00:09:43,626 --> 00:09:45,585 [dramatic music] 185 00:09:45,628 --> 00:09:47,848 [Wilson] And then he sends us to bed. 186 00:09:47,891 --> 00:09:50,198 And then the next night, it could happen again. 187 00:09:52,853 --> 00:09:55,769 It was six days of being told that you're under attack. 188 00:09:55,812 --> 00:09:57,814 And you might die at any moment. 189 00:09:59,816 --> 00:10:02,210 We weren't getting any rest. 190 00:10:02,253 --> 00:10:04,908 People were exhausted. 191 00:10:04,952 --> 00:10:06,736 This is the psyche, this is what-- 192 00:10:06,780 --> 00:10:08,216 this is what he's doing to us, 193 00:10:08,259 --> 00:10:11,088 he's constantly preparing us 194 00:10:11,132 --> 00:10:13,308 to where we're thinking about our own deaths. 195 00:10:16,224 --> 00:10:20,837 [Magaa] Jim Jones started talking about revolutionary suicide. 196 00:10:20,881 --> 00:10:22,578 And that if they couldn't stay together 197 00:10:22,622 --> 00:10:25,581 because of their enemies, then they would die together 198 00:10:25,625 --> 00:10:27,801 in order to show loyalty to one another. 199 00:10:29,846 --> 00:10:32,675 [Carter] He was standing on the steps to the radio room, 200 00:10:32,719 --> 00:10:35,504 and the people that were still there, 201 00:10:35,547 --> 00:10:37,767 you know, 400 or so, 202 00:10:37,811 --> 00:10:39,682 he actually said, "Let's take a vote. 203 00:10:39,726 --> 00:10:42,511 How many people here want to commit revolutionary suicide?" 204 00:10:45,514 --> 00:10:48,473 Three people raised their hand. 205 00:10:48,517 --> 00:10:50,040 Three. 206 00:10:50,084 --> 00:10:53,000 And I saw the look of, kind of, disappointment on his-- 207 00:10:53,043 --> 00:10:56,438 in his eyes, but also a strategic look. 208 00:10:56,481 --> 00:11:00,224 Kind of like, hmm, what am I gonna have to do? 209 00:11:00,268 --> 00:11:01,878 I'll never forget that. 210 00:11:01,922 --> 00:11:05,534 [dramatic music] 211 00:11:20,157 --> 00:11:22,464 [Wilson] The whole thing was that we were under attack 212 00:11:22,507 --> 00:11:26,337 by the Guyanese government. And then, years later, 213 00:11:26,381 --> 00:11:29,776 we find out that it was really over the custody battle. 214 00:11:29,819 --> 00:11:31,734 [male reporter] So what are you gonna do? 215 00:11:31,778 --> 00:11:34,084 [Stoen] So what am I gonna do now? 216 00:11:34,128 --> 00:11:36,043 Well, I-- you know, I've been fighting 217 00:11:36,086 --> 00:11:37,609 this legal case for two years, 218 00:11:37,653 --> 00:11:39,263 trying to get John, 219 00:11:39,307 --> 00:11:41,744 and I'll just keep on trying and trying. 220 00:11:41,788 --> 00:11:44,529 I'm getting John Stoen out of there, 221 00:11:44,573 --> 00:11:46,053 no matter what I have to do. 222 00:11:50,535 --> 00:11:54,365 [somber music] 223 00:11:58,892 --> 00:12:01,590 [Rep. Jackie Speier] This was 1978. 224 00:12:01,633 --> 00:12:03,244 I was a legislative counsel 225 00:12:03,287 --> 00:12:07,030 to a member of Congress in San Francisco. 226 00:12:10,381 --> 00:12:12,775 The Concerned Relatives started writing 227 00:12:12,819 --> 00:12:15,299 to members of Congress, 228 00:12:15,343 --> 00:12:16,866 Congressman Ryan being one of them. 229 00:12:16,910 --> 00:12:18,172 I think the issues in this campaign 230 00:12:18,215 --> 00:12:19,434 are pretty much what they are 231 00:12:19,477 --> 00:12:20,914 anyplace else in the country. 232 00:12:20,957 --> 00:12:22,480 They're concerned about their jobs, 233 00:12:22,524 --> 00:12:23,699 they're concerned about the war in Vietnam... 234 00:12:23,743 --> 00:12:25,483 [Guinn] Leo Ryan had a reputation 235 00:12:25,527 --> 00:12:28,095 as a man who was willing to investigate. 236 00:12:30,227 --> 00:12:35,363 When he was warned that there was abuse of prisoners, 237 00:12:35,406 --> 00:12:39,323 he got himself anonymously put in prison for a week. 238 00:12:39,367 --> 00:12:43,371 When the fate of baby seals was brought to his attention, 239 00:12:43,414 --> 00:12:45,199 he went up to defend the seals 240 00:12:45,242 --> 00:12:47,941 by throwing his body in front of one of them. 241 00:12:47,984 --> 00:12:51,771 [dramatic music] 242 00:12:51,814 --> 00:12:54,121 [Ryan] The first thing we have to do, 243 00:12:54,164 --> 00:12:56,601 is to get in touch with Jonestown. 244 00:12:56,645 --> 00:13:01,171 [Speier] Congressman Ryan had this uncanny ability 245 00:13:01,215 --> 00:13:03,217 to look beneath, 246 00:13:03,260 --> 00:13:07,656 and he listened to these defectors. 247 00:13:07,699 --> 00:13:10,224 Many of them were interviewed, 248 00:13:10,267 --> 00:13:13,575 and it became very apparent to him 249 00:13:13,618 --> 00:13:14,968 that there was something wrong. 250 00:13:15,011 --> 00:13:17,666 I'm trying to find out what the facts are 251 00:13:17,709 --> 00:13:19,102 as an absolutely 252 00:13:19,146 --> 00:13:20,495 non-committed person. I have... 253 00:13:20,538 --> 00:13:23,498 So he decided that he wanted to do 254 00:13:23,541 --> 00:13:25,848 a congressional delegation trip 255 00:13:25,892 --> 00:13:29,286 to Guyana and visit the Peoples Temple there. 256 00:13:38,687 --> 00:13:40,602 [Speier] In preparation for the trip, 257 00:13:40,645 --> 00:13:43,866 I remember sitting in my office listening 258 00:13:43,910 --> 00:13:47,914 to audio tapes of interviews from defectors 259 00:13:47,957 --> 00:13:52,266 and having this ominous feeling. 260 00:13:52,309 --> 00:13:55,138 I did have a premonition about the trip. 261 00:13:55,182 --> 00:13:57,924 [suspenseful music] 262 00:13:57,967 --> 00:13:59,882 [indistinct chatter] 263 00:13:59,926 --> 00:14:03,059 [Stoen] You know, I did try to warn Congressman Ryan. 264 00:14:03,103 --> 00:14:05,714 I don't think anybody heard us 265 00:14:05,757 --> 00:14:08,456 and/or, they didn't believe us. 266 00:14:08,499 --> 00:14:10,980 You say there's a lot of this and you can't believe that. 267 00:14:11,024 --> 00:14:14,331 I'm telling you that you have never met up 268 00:14:14,375 --> 00:14:15,985 with a man like Jim Jones. 269 00:14:16,029 --> 00:14:18,466 [engines roaring] 270 00:14:23,601 --> 00:14:25,212 [indistinct chatter] 271 00:14:25,255 --> 00:14:26,561 [male reporter] Tuesday, November 14th. 272 00:14:26,604 --> 00:14:28,824 Congressman Leo Ryan and his party 273 00:14:28,868 --> 00:14:30,739 of people related to cult members, reporters, 274 00:14:30,782 --> 00:14:32,959 and cameramen left the United States 275 00:14:33,002 --> 00:14:36,876 for Georgetown, Guyana, hoping to get to Jonestown. 276 00:14:42,185 --> 00:14:44,492 [Guinn] When Leo Ryan and the Concerned Relatives 277 00:14:44,535 --> 00:14:47,887 and the media arrive in Georgetown, 278 00:14:47,930 --> 00:14:50,890 they have a couple tough days. 279 00:14:50,933 --> 00:14:56,286 Ryan is trying to get permission to enter Jonestown. 280 00:14:56,330 --> 00:14:57,897 Jones says no. 281 00:15:15,784 --> 00:15:18,526 [male reporter] Harris heard some ominous things about Jonestown 282 00:15:18,569 --> 00:15:20,049 in an interview with a former leader 283 00:15:20,093 --> 00:15:21,964 of the cult who had defected. 284 00:15:22,008 --> 00:15:24,924 [Don Harris] If your mother... 285 00:15:24,967 --> 00:15:27,535 and your sisters and brother 286 00:15:27,578 --> 00:15:31,582 wanted to leave Jonestown, wouldn't they just leave? 287 00:15:31,626 --> 00:15:33,019 They can't.Why not? 288 00:15:33,062 --> 00:15:35,847 Like, you, uh... they're in a jungle. 289 00:15:35,891 --> 00:15:39,982 With guards. With guns. 290 00:15:40,026 --> 00:15:41,810 [scoffs] They can't. 291 00:15:41,853 --> 00:15:44,769 [crickets chirping] 292 00:15:44,813 --> 00:15:48,817 [Carter] I was in the radio room on Thursday night. 293 00:15:48,860 --> 00:15:51,515 The phone rang, and it was Jones. 294 00:15:51,559 --> 00:15:54,040 And he said, "So what do you think?" 295 00:15:54,083 --> 00:15:57,217 And I said, "They were expecting to be turned away. 296 00:15:57,260 --> 00:15:58,958 I think we should let the congressman in." 297 00:15:59,001 --> 00:16:02,091 He said, "This-- this is a [bleep] way to live." 298 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:05,007 And the conversation went on 299 00:16:05,051 --> 00:16:07,749 and all of a sudden he just [vocalizing]. 300 00:16:07,792 --> 00:16:11,492 And he went into 20 minutes of non sequitur sentences, 301 00:16:11,535 --> 00:16:15,104 slurring half the time. I was terrified. 302 00:16:15,148 --> 00:16:16,627 I mean, I thought, 303 00:16:16,671 --> 00:16:19,543 "Oh, my God, the leader has lost his mind. 304 00:16:19,587 --> 00:16:23,112 Literally, lost his mind." 305 00:16:32,469 --> 00:16:35,037 [man] Did you check...Go over there and see how much... 306 00:16:35,081 --> 00:16:38,606 [man 2] Everybody, everybody. 307 00:16:38,649 --> 00:16:41,261 [Stoen] Congressman Ryan approached our group and said, 308 00:16:41,304 --> 00:16:43,524 "Okay, we have two planes." 309 00:16:43,567 --> 00:16:47,441 Um, we have this many seats. 310 00:16:47,484 --> 00:16:49,008 The Concerned Relatives groups 311 00:16:49,051 --> 00:16:50,966 started kind of fighting over the seats. 312 00:16:51,010 --> 00:16:53,142 And I just stepped back, and I said, 313 00:16:53,186 --> 00:16:55,666 "I'm not fighting for a seat on the airplane." 314 00:16:58,278 --> 00:17:01,020 I was told later, people said that 315 00:17:01,063 --> 00:17:05,372 if I had shown up on that airstrip on the way in, 316 00:17:05,415 --> 00:17:07,678 they would've killed everybody right then and there. 317 00:17:07,722 --> 00:17:09,898 Nobody would've ever even got into Jonestown. 318 00:17:09,941 --> 00:17:12,248 There was so much hatred for me. 319 00:17:28,395 --> 00:17:31,093 [male reporter] Friday November 17th, 320 00:17:31,137 --> 00:17:33,704 Congressman Ryan and his party headed for Jonestown 321 00:17:33,748 --> 00:17:35,619 not certain whether they would get there 322 00:17:35,663 --> 00:17:37,404 or what they would find. 323 00:17:56,814 --> 00:17:59,426 [Gosney] We were told that Leo Ryan was coming 324 00:17:59,469 --> 00:18:03,169 because he was a s-- part of the CIA. 325 00:18:03,212 --> 00:18:05,345 We were drilled and drilled 326 00:18:05,388 --> 00:18:07,216 and drilled and drilled and drilled. 327 00:18:07,260 --> 00:18:10,132 People were rehearsed 328 00:18:10,176 --> 00:18:13,048 and so it was a huge, huge, huge deal. 329 00:18:22,623 --> 00:18:25,974 [Guinn] When settlers in Jonestown hear from Jones 330 00:18:26,017 --> 00:18:28,150 that there are gonna be people coming, 331 00:18:28,194 --> 00:18:29,586 there are people who start to see 332 00:18:29,630 --> 00:18:31,806 this might be the time that we leave Guyana. 333 00:18:33,590 --> 00:18:36,289 When a congressman comes, surely, you know, 334 00:18:36,332 --> 00:18:38,552 nobody's gonna screw with a congressman, you know. 335 00:18:38,595 --> 00:18:40,771 You could leave with him, you might be safe. 336 00:18:45,341 --> 00:18:48,866 [Wilson] I remember thinking I didn't know how I was gonna leave, 337 00:18:48,910 --> 00:18:51,913 but I made that commitment to myself, and my son. 338 00:18:51,956 --> 00:18:55,482 I said, "Jakari will not spend another birthday here." 339 00:18:57,962 --> 00:19:00,443 Diane Louie, a very close friend of mine, 340 00:19:00,487 --> 00:19:02,924 said her boyfriend, Richard Clark, 341 00:19:02,967 --> 00:19:05,318 had started to find a way out the moment 342 00:19:05,361 --> 00:19:06,841 he arrived in Jonestown. 343 00:19:06,884 --> 00:19:08,364 And I told her that I wanted to go. 344 00:19:10,584 --> 00:19:12,890 [Gosney] I wanted to leave with Congressman Ryan. 345 00:19:12,934 --> 00:19:15,197 I immediately thought, 346 00:19:15,241 --> 00:19:18,374 "This is my chance to get out of here." 347 00:19:18,418 --> 00:19:24,511 So I was walking down the path and Monica Bagby just says, 348 00:19:24,554 --> 00:19:27,209 "Let's get the [bleep] outta here." 349 00:19:27,253 --> 00:19:29,037 And so from then on, 350 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:31,735 we tried to talk to one another, 351 00:19:31,779 --> 00:19:33,346 to bolster one another. 352 00:19:33,389 --> 00:19:35,826 I'm probably the one who needed the bolstering. 353 00:19:35,870 --> 00:19:40,091 Yes, I mean, it sounds crazy, but yes, 354 00:19:40,135 --> 00:19:42,529 we have a right to leave, yes, you know, 355 00:19:42,572 --> 00:19:44,313 it's okay that we leave. 356 00:19:48,752 --> 00:19:50,754 I wrote the note, you know, 357 00:19:50,798 --> 00:19:54,845 "Help us get out of Jonestown"... 358 00:19:54,889 --> 00:19:57,892 and that was my plan. 359 00:19:57,935 --> 00:20:03,027 To hand him the note and ask for his assistance to leave. 360 00:20:03,071 --> 00:20:07,118 And it was very much like a prison escape. 361 00:20:07,162 --> 00:20:09,338 "You're not walking outta here." That was what Jim said. 362 00:20:09,382 --> 00:20:12,211 "You are not leaving here walking. 363 00:20:12,254 --> 00:20:15,823 You can be dead in a box, but you're not leaving here." 364 00:20:15,866 --> 00:20:20,480 [Gosney] The consequences of conspiring to leave was death... period. 365 00:20:23,831 --> 00:20:28,749 [suspenseful music] 366 00:20:41,588 --> 00:20:43,459 [Ryan] I'm Congressman Ryan, 367 00:20:43,503 --> 00:20:45,766 I'm from the United States government and we're here to... 368 00:20:45,809 --> 00:20:48,638 inquire into the, uh, health and the welfare 369 00:20:48,682 --> 00:20:50,379 of the American citizens who are here. 370 00:21:02,217 --> 00:21:04,480 [plane passing] 371 00:21:04,524 --> 00:21:08,310 [Wilson] I heard a plane overhead on November 17th. 372 00:21:08,354 --> 00:21:09,964 That was Friday. 373 00:21:10,007 --> 00:21:13,446 A twin-engine plane, and then the alarm sounded. 374 00:21:13,489 --> 00:21:17,232 [air raid siren wailing] 375 00:21:17,276 --> 00:21:19,626 And so I'm excited and I'm scared. 376 00:21:33,422 --> 00:21:38,035 [Speier] First we went on a tour of the commune. 377 00:21:38,079 --> 00:21:40,647 And it was impressive. 378 00:21:40,690 --> 00:21:43,998 I mean, you are in the deepest, thickest jungle, 379 00:21:44,041 --> 00:21:49,395 and yet they had carved out a viable community. 380 00:21:49,438 --> 00:21:51,527 [girl singing] 381 00:21:51,571 --> 00:21:53,094 [girl] Can you go like this? Make a choo-choo train. 382 00:21:53,137 --> 00:21:55,357 Make a choo-choo train. 383 00:21:55,401 --> 00:22:00,884 [Speier] Virtually every person we talked to said the same thing. 384 00:22:00,928 --> 00:22:04,323 I love it here, I never want to go home. 385 00:22:04,366 --> 00:22:06,499 You're happy here?I-- I'm very happy here. 386 00:22:06,542 --> 00:22:08,370 It's the best place I've ever been. 387 00:22:08,414 --> 00:22:11,678 [male reporter] You wanna stay? Definitely. 388 00:22:11,721 --> 00:22:14,289 I certainly do. 389 00:22:14,333 --> 00:22:16,552 Some people have said that they couldn't leave 390 00:22:16,596 --> 00:22:19,207 if they wanted to. Do you think you could? 391 00:22:19,250 --> 00:22:22,036 Yeah, if-- if I really wanted to, I'm-- I'm free to go. 392 00:22:22,079 --> 00:22:26,040 If I was really-- If I really wanted to, I'd be free to go. 393 00:22:26,083 --> 00:22:29,826 ♪ Yeah, get up off your feet and dance, dance ♪ 394 00:22:29,870 --> 00:22:32,829 ♪ Get up off your feet and dance, dance... ♪ 395 00:22:32,873 --> 00:22:35,136 [Gosney] They had entertainment that night. 396 00:22:35,179 --> 00:22:37,312 Jim Jones was showing the congressman, 397 00:22:37,356 --> 00:22:38,487 this is our people. 398 00:22:38,531 --> 00:22:43,318 [cheers and applause] 399 00:22:43,362 --> 00:22:46,103 Everything was riding, that night, 400 00:22:46,147 --> 00:22:49,933 on Congressman Ryan's acceptance of us. 401 00:22:49,977 --> 00:22:55,504 So the atmosphere was extremely tense. 402 00:22:55,548 --> 00:22:59,639 [Speier] There's a huge show being put on for the benefit 403 00:22:59,682 --> 00:23:03,207 of the community, but obviously, for us as well. 404 00:23:08,212 --> 00:23:10,606 [Carter] The entertainment is going on. 405 00:23:10,650 --> 00:23:14,131 Ryan was invited to get up and talk to everybody. 406 00:23:14,175 --> 00:23:16,656 I'm very glad to be here. This is a congressional inquiry. 407 00:23:16,699 --> 00:23:18,048 I think that all of you know 408 00:23:18,092 --> 00:23:20,268 that I'm here to find out more about-- 409 00:23:20,311 --> 00:23:22,531 uh, questions have been raised about your operation here. 410 00:23:22,575 --> 00:23:25,055 But I can tell you right now, whatever the comments are, 411 00:23:25,099 --> 00:23:27,231 there are some people here who believe that this 412 00:23:27,275 --> 00:23:29,451 is the best thing that ever happened to them in their whole lives. 413 00:23:29,495 --> 00:23:32,454 [cheers and applause] 414 00:23:32,498 --> 00:23:35,936 [ominous music] 415 00:23:35,979 --> 00:23:39,940 [Carter] And the place just exploded in applause, 416 00:23:39,983 --> 00:23:44,161 not rehearsed as been printed many, many times. 417 00:23:44,205 --> 00:23:46,599 It was, it was loud. 418 00:23:46,642 --> 00:23:49,210 My brother told me afterwards that it was the loudest 419 00:23:49,253 --> 00:23:50,951 that he'd ever heard Jonestown. 420 00:23:50,994 --> 00:23:52,953 [cheers and applause continue] 421 00:23:52,996 --> 00:23:55,695 ♪♪ 422 00:23:55,738 --> 00:23:57,348 [Speier] But it was manic. 423 00:23:57,392 --> 00:24:00,134 There was an artificiality to it, 424 00:24:00,177 --> 00:24:03,398 and it didn't just go on for 30 seconds. 425 00:24:03,442 --> 00:24:06,053 It went on for minutes and minutes. 426 00:24:06,096 --> 00:24:08,055 [cheering continues] 427 00:24:08,098 --> 00:24:12,015 ♪♪ 428 00:24:17,064 --> 00:24:22,156 What I hear is this incredible tension being broken 429 00:24:22,199 --> 00:24:26,377 by this... way overenthusiastic clapping. 430 00:24:26,421 --> 00:24:31,078 [cheering continues] 431 00:24:31,121 --> 00:24:34,647 It was during the performance that I thought, 432 00:24:34,690 --> 00:24:37,867 "This is my chance to get out of here." 433 00:24:37,911 --> 00:24:39,478 The stakes were very high. 434 00:24:39,521 --> 00:24:41,392 It was like an all or nothing, 435 00:24:41,436 --> 00:24:46,746 do or die, this is gonna work or else... 436 00:24:46,789 --> 00:24:50,271 Reporter Don Harris was kinda doing a circle 437 00:24:50,314 --> 00:24:53,100 around the crowd in the inside, 438 00:24:53,143 --> 00:24:57,452 so he made it possible for me to pass the note. 439 00:24:57,496 --> 00:25:01,978 ♪♪ 440 00:25:02,022 --> 00:25:07,723 And I put the note in the-- kinda the curve of his elbow... 441 00:25:10,465 --> 00:25:13,294 ...but the note fell out on the ground. 442 00:25:13,337 --> 00:25:15,470 ♪♪ 443 00:25:15,514 --> 00:25:20,388 And this little kid, uh, he was-- was ten or something, 444 00:25:20,431 --> 00:25:23,478 he started yelling, "He passed a note! He passed a note!" 445 00:25:23,522 --> 00:25:26,394 And I picked it up and I said, "I think you dropped something." 446 00:25:26,437 --> 00:25:31,442 I hand it back to him, and, um, um, he walked on. 447 00:25:31,486 --> 00:25:34,402 I'm exposing myself totally, 448 00:25:34,445 --> 00:25:37,840 and I am in pure terror. 449 00:25:37,884 --> 00:25:39,146 ♪♪ 450 00:25:39,189 --> 00:25:41,365 [Speier] Don Harris approaches us. 451 00:25:41,409 --> 00:25:44,499 And he hands Congressman Ryan a note. 452 00:25:44,543 --> 00:25:49,591 And the note had Vern Gosney and Monica Bagby's name on it. 453 00:25:49,635 --> 00:25:54,640 And it indicated they wanted to get out of there. 454 00:25:54,683 --> 00:25:55,858 So my heart sank. 455 00:25:55,902 --> 00:25:59,035 I thought, "Oh, this is it. 456 00:25:59,079 --> 00:26:00,863 "It's really true. 457 00:26:00,907 --> 00:26:03,605 People are being held here against their will." 458 00:26:03,649 --> 00:26:05,912 [dramatic music] 459 00:26:05,955 --> 00:26:09,959 [Wilson] We hear Vern Gosney has passed a note to somebody, 460 00:26:10,003 --> 00:26:12,919 saying he wanted to leave. 461 00:26:12,962 --> 00:26:16,618 Diane comes and she says, "We're leaving tomorrow." 462 00:26:16,662 --> 00:26:18,664 That was the plan. 463 00:26:18,707 --> 00:26:21,841 [ominous music] 464 00:26:21,884 --> 00:26:24,017 [Gosney] After the performance, 465 00:26:24,060 --> 00:26:26,541 Congressman Ryan came and spoke with me, 466 00:26:26,585 --> 00:26:30,197 and he said, "You are the first one to ask to leave, 467 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:33,200 you'll have the first seats on the plane." 468 00:26:33,243 --> 00:26:38,945 And I told him, "You're in extreme danger. 469 00:26:38,988 --> 00:26:42,296 You need to leave now." 470 00:26:42,339 --> 00:26:44,211 ♪♪ 471 00:26:44,254 --> 00:26:46,343 He said, "Well, we can't." 472 00:26:46,387 --> 00:26:48,519 He didn't have any transportation to leave. 473 00:26:48,563 --> 00:26:50,652 He couldn't leave if he wanted to. 474 00:26:50,696 --> 00:26:54,613 ♪♪ 475 00:26:57,572 --> 00:26:59,530 [thunder rumbling] 476 00:26:59,574 --> 00:27:01,097 [rain pattering] 477 00:27:01,141 --> 00:27:04,448 [Speier] I remember lying on this top bunk 478 00:27:04,492 --> 00:27:09,062 and listening to a torrential downpour 479 00:27:09,105 --> 00:27:11,542 that night on this roof. 480 00:27:11,586 --> 00:27:12,979 [thunder rumbling] 481 00:27:13,022 --> 00:27:16,460 It was staccato sound. 482 00:27:16,504 --> 00:27:19,942 And I-I don't know that I got a wink of sleep that night. 483 00:27:19,986 --> 00:27:23,903 I was just thinking, "How are we gonna get out of here safely?" 484 00:27:23,946 --> 00:27:26,949 [dramatic music] 485 00:27:31,475 --> 00:27:34,391 [ominous music] 486 00:27:34,435 --> 00:27:38,178 ♪♪ 487 00:27:38,221 --> 00:27:39,832 [Harris] We're just a news team. 488 00:27:39,875 --> 00:27:42,617 We don't care one way or the other. 489 00:27:42,661 --> 00:27:45,838 You're convinced that Jim Jones is a good man? 490 00:27:45,881 --> 00:27:48,144 Definitely, yeah.Yes, I should say so. 491 00:27:48,188 --> 00:27:50,886 Yes, I mean, I'm 27 years old, 492 00:27:50,930 --> 00:27:53,846 black, free, and I make my own choices, 493 00:27:53,889 --> 00:27:57,197 and I definitely think Jim Jones is a beautiful-- more-- 494 00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:00,374 he's got more character than I ever seen out of anyone. 495 00:28:00,417 --> 00:28:02,245 And I respect him very, very much. 496 00:28:02,289 --> 00:28:04,987 ♪♪ 497 00:28:05,031 --> 00:28:06,946 [Wilson] On November 18th, it was determined 498 00:28:06,989 --> 00:28:08,599 that we were gonna leave. 499 00:28:08,643 --> 00:28:11,472 My husband Joe and I have separated. 500 00:28:11,515 --> 00:28:13,517 I have Jakari. 501 00:28:13,561 --> 00:28:17,260 But that day, Joe shows up, and I'm holding our son. 502 00:28:17,304 --> 00:28:19,175 He says, "Where are you going?" 503 00:28:19,219 --> 00:28:21,221 I said, "We're going on a picnic." 504 00:28:21,264 --> 00:28:23,397 And he goes, "A picnic?" 505 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:25,747 And I'm thinking, "This is the stupidest excuse 506 00:28:25,791 --> 00:28:28,358 "you could ever come up with. 507 00:28:28,402 --> 00:28:31,405 Okay, we blew it. It's over." 508 00:28:31,448 --> 00:28:34,408 Then he just said, "Well, today is not a good day, don't go." 509 00:28:34,451 --> 00:28:36,105 [chuckling] That's what he said. 510 00:28:36,149 --> 00:28:37,933 Now I'm panicking a little bit. 511 00:28:37,977 --> 00:28:39,369 We have to hustle. 512 00:28:39,413 --> 00:28:43,896 ♪♪ 513 00:28:43,939 --> 00:28:46,289 Richard says, "It's 30-something miles 514 00:28:46,333 --> 00:28:47,813 and we got to walk it." 515 00:28:47,856 --> 00:28:51,381 And so, we left. 516 00:28:51,425 --> 00:28:53,166 ♪♪ 517 00:28:53,209 --> 00:28:56,386 And we just started walking down the road. 518 00:28:56,430 --> 00:28:59,433 ♪♪ 519 00:28:59,476 --> 00:29:02,653 I have Jakari tied to a sheet on my back. 520 00:29:02,697 --> 00:29:04,351 And I'm so scared. 521 00:29:04,394 --> 00:29:07,615 I am so unbelievably scared, it's hard to breath. 522 00:29:07,658 --> 00:29:10,313 I feel like my heart's in my throat. 523 00:29:10,357 --> 00:29:12,794 I'm trying to keep from panicking. 524 00:29:12,838 --> 00:29:15,188 And I'm just waiting for the bullet. 525 00:29:15,231 --> 00:29:18,800 ♪♪ 526 00:29:18,844 --> 00:29:22,673 [Gosney] I met with Congressman Ryan and Jackie Speiers. 527 00:29:22,717 --> 00:29:26,199 Congressman Ryan said, "You have a congressional shield 528 00:29:26,242 --> 00:29:29,637 "of-- of protection around you. 529 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:31,813 Nothing can happen to you," 530 00:29:31,857 --> 00:29:35,077 and I just thought, "You're insane." 531 00:29:35,121 --> 00:29:38,080 [somber music] 532 00:29:38,124 --> 00:29:42,041 ♪♪ 533 00:29:45,653 --> 00:29:50,658 So then I went to say good-bye to my son. 534 00:29:50,701 --> 00:29:55,794 And Edith, his caretaker, was in the middle 535 00:29:55,837 --> 00:29:58,840 between these two guards. 536 00:29:58,884 --> 00:30:01,669 And then I saw my son. 537 00:30:01,712 --> 00:30:03,453 I remember him sitting with me, 538 00:30:03,497 --> 00:30:05,891 and just being like a typical four-year-old 539 00:30:05,934 --> 00:30:08,763 who can't sit still, and just squirming 540 00:30:08,807 --> 00:30:14,334 and crawling all around, and then he went back to Edith. 541 00:30:14,377 --> 00:30:17,859 It's a moment that I've went over... 542 00:30:17,903 --> 00:30:20,296 a million times in my mind. 543 00:30:20,340 --> 00:30:24,039 A million times in my mind. 544 00:30:24,083 --> 00:30:26,607 But I didn't know what was gonna happen. 545 00:30:29,305 --> 00:30:31,830 ♪♪ 546 00:30:31,873 --> 00:30:36,356 So, this is when Jones finally showed up at the pavilion. 547 00:30:36,399 --> 00:30:38,445 And I was standing off to the side 548 00:30:38,488 --> 00:30:43,580 when he was being interviewed by Don Harris of NBC. 549 00:30:43,624 --> 00:30:46,888 Harris showed him the note from Vern or Monica, 550 00:30:46,932 --> 00:30:49,586 saying they wanted to leave. 551 00:30:49,630 --> 00:30:52,546 [Harris] Last night, someone came and passed me this note. 552 00:30:57,203 --> 00:30:58,813 Well, that's who we're talking about. 553 00:30:58,857 --> 00:30:59,988 He wants to leave his son here. 554 00:31:00,032 --> 00:31:01,250 If Jonestown is such a bad place, 555 00:31:01,294 --> 00:31:03,035 why does he want to leave his son here? 556 00:31:05,472 --> 00:31:07,343 [Harris] Doesn't it concern you, though, that-- 557 00:31:07,387 --> 00:31:09,345 that this man, for whatever reason, 558 00:31:09,389 --> 00:31:11,260 one of the people in your group was-- People-- 559 00:31:11,304 --> 00:31:13,393 People play games, friend. 560 00:31:13,436 --> 00:31:15,656 They lie. 561 00:31:15,699 --> 00:31:17,092 If it's so damn bad, 562 00:31:17,136 --> 00:31:19,921 why is he leaving his son here? 563 00:31:19,965 --> 00:31:22,402 Can you give me a good reason for that?I'll ask him. 564 00:31:22,445 --> 00:31:24,883 I'd take my son-- I'd take my son with me. 565 00:31:24,926 --> 00:31:29,583 ♪♪ 566 00:31:29,626 --> 00:31:33,935 [Carter] But you could see that he was not right. 567 00:31:33,979 --> 00:31:37,286 I mean, uh, I couldn't see how not right he was, 568 00:31:37,330 --> 00:31:38,897 but you could see he was not right. 569 00:31:38,940 --> 00:31:44,424 ♪♪ 570 00:31:44,467 --> 00:31:49,429 [Gosney] The mood in that pavilion was starting to be chaos. 571 00:31:49,472 --> 00:31:51,561 And I realized at that moment 572 00:31:51,605 --> 00:31:53,868 that there was other people that wanted to leave. 573 00:31:53,912 --> 00:31:55,478 Leo, come on. 574 00:32:05,488 --> 00:32:07,447 ♪♪ 575 00:32:07,490 --> 00:32:10,319 [Gosney] I was quite shocked because those two families 576 00:32:10,363 --> 00:32:13,192 came with Jim Jones from Indiana. 577 00:32:17,152 --> 00:32:19,067 Miss, Miss... 578 00:32:21,504 --> 00:32:24,029 I mean this. Thank you. Thank you. 579 00:32:29,643 --> 00:32:31,166 Yeah, I know there is. I know there-- 580 00:32:37,433 --> 00:32:41,046 [Carter] People that had been with Jim for decades 581 00:32:41,089 --> 00:32:43,004 came up and said, "We wanna go." 582 00:32:43,048 --> 00:32:47,356 And all of a sudden, the whole mood changed. 583 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:51,273 [Speier] I remember there was this screaming match going on. 584 00:32:54,059 --> 00:32:57,801 [man] Hold on a second. One second. 585 00:32:57,845 --> 00:33:01,936 [Speier] A couple with a child was pulling on the child. 586 00:33:01,980 --> 00:33:05,722 One parent had one arm pulling, she wanted to go, 587 00:33:05,766 --> 00:33:07,072 and the other one wanted to stay. 588 00:33:16,690 --> 00:33:19,519 [Speier] And I'm thinking, "Oh, my God, this is..." 589 00:33:19,562 --> 00:33:24,132 The intensity of emotion had just skyrocketed. 590 00:33:26,091 --> 00:33:28,093 [Carter] I had tears rolling down my face. 591 00:33:28,136 --> 00:33:32,967 It was just-- it was so incredibly emotional. 592 00:33:33,011 --> 00:33:36,318 But Jones' demeanor changed. 593 00:33:36,362 --> 00:33:41,106 I could see the anger growing on his face. 594 00:33:41,149 --> 00:33:44,500 In terms of people leaving, it had gone from 7 or 8, 595 00:33:44,544 --> 00:33:48,504 to now 13 or 14, and now another 9. 596 00:33:48,548 --> 00:33:50,550 We're up over 20 people. 597 00:33:50,593 --> 00:33:54,510 ♪♪ 598 00:34:01,604 --> 00:34:03,780 [Speier] It was decided as the group of people 599 00:34:03,824 --> 00:34:07,132 who wanted to leave grew... 600 00:34:07,175 --> 00:34:09,003 that Congressman Ryan would stay behind, 601 00:34:09,047 --> 00:34:10,700 and we would have two airlifts. 602 00:34:10,744 --> 00:34:15,009 And I would take the first group out. 603 00:34:15,053 --> 00:34:18,317 ♪♪ 604 00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:19,709 And all of a sudden, 605 00:34:19,753 --> 00:34:21,929 Larry Layton jumps onto the truck. 606 00:34:21,972 --> 00:34:25,889 ♪♪ 607 00:34:28,544 --> 00:34:30,894 [Gosney] Dale Parks came and said, 608 00:34:30,938 --> 00:34:32,809 "Larry Layton is coming with us. 609 00:34:32,853 --> 00:34:34,246 "You've gotta watch him. He's a plant. 610 00:34:34,289 --> 00:34:36,813 "He's not-- he's not a sincere person 611 00:34:36,857 --> 00:34:38,598 who wants to leave. We've gotta watch him." 612 00:34:38,641 --> 00:34:42,341 And so we all went, got on the truck. 613 00:34:44,169 --> 00:34:45,518 We're getting ready to leave, 614 00:34:45,561 --> 00:34:47,998 and I remember talking to Don Harris, 615 00:34:48,042 --> 00:34:49,739 and we were feeling relieved, 616 00:34:49,783 --> 00:34:52,133 like we were getting out of this powder keg. 617 00:34:52,177 --> 00:34:55,397 [thunder rumbling, wind whooshing] 618 00:34:55,441 --> 00:34:57,225 [Carter] All of a sudden the wind, I mean, literally, 619 00:34:57,269 --> 00:35:00,054 out of nowhere, the wind picked up 620 00:35:00,098 --> 00:35:02,491 to, like, 35, 40 miles an hour. 621 00:35:02,535 --> 00:35:04,145 The sky turned black, 622 00:35:04,189 --> 00:35:07,888 and just this torrential downpour happened. 623 00:35:07,931 --> 00:35:11,848 ♪♪ 624 00:35:14,286 --> 00:35:17,071 What I felt, and I felt it physically, 625 00:35:17,115 --> 00:35:19,595 was evil blow into Jonestown. 626 00:35:19,639 --> 00:35:21,554 ♪♪ 627 00:35:21,597 --> 00:35:23,643 It's like a supernatural force 628 00:35:23,686 --> 00:35:26,689 swept in and took over the place. 629 00:35:26,733 --> 00:35:28,343 The reason this was so important 630 00:35:28,387 --> 00:35:30,432 is because the truck couldn't leave. 631 00:35:30,476 --> 00:35:32,434 [engine revving] 632 00:35:32,478 --> 00:35:37,222 ♪♪ 633 00:35:37,265 --> 00:35:39,311 [Gosney] They kept running the motor and running the motor 634 00:35:39,354 --> 00:35:42,314 and couldn't get out of the mud. 635 00:35:42,357 --> 00:35:45,273 But what was going through my mind is, 636 00:35:45,317 --> 00:35:48,320 "You're not getting out of here. 637 00:35:48,363 --> 00:35:50,191 You're not gonna leave." 638 00:35:50,235 --> 00:35:53,673 ♪♪ 639 00:35:53,716 --> 00:35:58,243 [Speier] And then there was this eruption from the pavilion. 640 00:35:58,286 --> 00:36:01,507 [Carter] Congressman Ryan is back in the pavilion. 641 00:36:01,550 --> 00:36:04,162 He's across from me. He's talking to me. 642 00:36:04,205 --> 00:36:06,773 And I noticed a man named Don Sly 643 00:36:06,816 --> 00:36:08,644 walking up behind Congressman Ryan. 644 00:36:08,688 --> 00:36:10,255 He's shaking like a leaf. 645 00:36:10,298 --> 00:36:12,474 And it looks like he's actually crying. 646 00:36:12,518 --> 00:36:14,302 And I thought to myself, 647 00:36:14,346 --> 00:36:15,782 "Somebody else is leaving," you know? 648 00:36:15,825 --> 00:36:18,306 "Oh, well, he's leaving too." 649 00:36:18,350 --> 00:36:21,048 And all of a sudden, a knife comes out and he says, 650 00:36:21,091 --> 00:36:22,615 "All right, mother[bleep], you're gonna die." 651 00:36:22,658 --> 00:36:24,704 ♪♪ 652 00:36:28,403 --> 00:36:31,580 [dramatic music] 653 00:36:31,624 --> 00:36:34,061 The knife comes out and he says, "All right, mother[bleep], you're gonna die." 654 00:36:34,104 --> 00:36:37,325 ♪♪ 655 00:36:37,369 --> 00:36:39,675 We all jumped on him and we got the knife away. 656 00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:42,635 ♪♪ 657 00:36:45,594 --> 00:36:47,857 Congressman Ryan is sitting down 658 00:36:47,901 --> 00:36:51,121 and you can see blood on the congressman's shirt. 659 00:36:51,165 --> 00:36:53,254 He was obviously shaken up. 660 00:36:53,298 --> 00:36:56,170 Somebody just tried to kill him. 661 00:36:56,214 --> 00:36:58,564 Personally, what I felt was, 662 00:36:58,607 --> 00:37:02,089 "Oh, my God, the leader is a murderer. 663 00:37:02,132 --> 00:37:06,180 I've been playing peace and love and he's a [bleep] murderer." 664 00:37:06,224 --> 00:37:07,616 ♪♪ 665 00:37:07,660 --> 00:37:11,838 I felt completely naive. 666 00:37:11,881 --> 00:37:15,581 By this time, Jones is sitting there. 667 00:37:15,624 --> 00:37:17,539 And he's like this and he starts... 668 00:37:17,583 --> 00:37:20,977 [chewing loudly, sucking teeth] 669 00:37:21,021 --> 00:37:23,415 "I've never felt Jonestown so peaceful." 670 00:37:23,458 --> 00:37:26,331 ♪♪ 671 00:37:26,374 --> 00:37:29,203 And I got chills all over my body. 672 00:37:29,247 --> 00:37:33,294 'Cause Jonestown had never been more in pain 673 00:37:33,338 --> 00:37:36,732 or more agony. 674 00:37:36,776 --> 00:37:38,865 It felt, literally, to me like Jonestown 675 00:37:38,908 --> 00:37:41,476 was disintegrating in front of my eyes. 676 00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:45,480 ♪♪ 677 00:37:49,310 --> 00:37:53,096 [Speier] Out walks Congressman Ryan... 678 00:37:53,140 --> 00:37:55,838 and he's got blood stains on his shirt. 679 00:37:55,882 --> 00:37:58,145 He gets into the cab of the truck 680 00:37:58,188 --> 00:38:02,018 and the truck takes off for the airstrip. 681 00:38:02,062 --> 00:38:05,283 [airplane engine whirring] 682 00:38:05,326 --> 00:38:08,416 I thought, "Oh, my gosh, we are so lucky. 683 00:38:08,460 --> 00:38:10,549 I mean, we've just dodged a bullet." 684 00:38:10,592 --> 00:38:12,725 ♪♪ 685 00:38:12,768 --> 00:38:14,857 There was an attempt on Ryan's life, 686 00:38:14,901 --> 00:38:16,598 we've got these defectors, 687 00:38:16,642 --> 00:38:20,298 I'm still unsure about why Larry Layton's on this truck, 688 00:38:20,341 --> 00:38:23,388 but we'll sort it out when we get to the airstrip. 689 00:38:26,521 --> 00:38:28,044 For myself, the feeling on that truck 690 00:38:28,088 --> 00:38:31,134 was terror, foreboding. 691 00:38:31,178 --> 00:38:33,572 ♪♪ 692 00:38:33,615 --> 00:38:36,357 I don't think there was a lot of talking going on. 693 00:38:36,401 --> 00:38:40,318 ♪♪ 694 00:38:43,321 --> 00:38:45,758 [Guinn] It's six miles to Port Kaituma. 695 00:38:45,801 --> 00:38:47,629 The roads are narrow. Thee roads are muddy. 696 00:38:47,673 --> 00:38:50,893 It's gonna take a little while to get there. 697 00:38:50,937 --> 00:38:55,463 They're gone maybe 10 minutes when a tractor... 698 00:38:55,507 --> 00:38:57,683 pulls out of Jonestown after them, 699 00:38:57,726 --> 00:38:59,511 and there's a number of men on it-- 700 00:38:59,554 --> 00:39:02,992 six, seven, eight-- all armed. 701 00:39:03,036 --> 00:39:04,864 And they disappear too. 702 00:39:04,907 --> 00:39:07,388 ♪♪ 703 00:39:07,432 --> 00:39:10,130 [Carter] At this point in time in the pavilion, 704 00:39:10,173 --> 00:39:12,698 I'm kind of afraid 'cause I helped save the congressman's life. 705 00:39:12,741 --> 00:39:18,399 So I started kind of easing my way out of the pavilion. 706 00:39:18,443 --> 00:39:22,055 I walked back to the cottages, and I felt, literally, 707 00:39:22,098 --> 00:39:23,926 like there was a target on my back. 708 00:39:23,970 --> 00:39:28,931 It felt like I had a sniper's scope on my back. 709 00:39:28,975 --> 00:39:32,282 [exhales] 710 00:39:32,326 --> 00:39:35,198 [voice breaking] This was so hard. 711 00:39:35,242 --> 00:39:39,159 I get back to the cottages and Gloria's there with Malcolm. 712 00:39:39,202 --> 00:39:41,422 And she was laying down on the bed. 713 00:39:41,466 --> 00:39:44,730 And Malcolm was playing on the floor with his toys. 714 00:39:44,773 --> 00:39:47,210 And I said, "Do you know what's happening up there?" 715 00:39:47,254 --> 00:39:48,734 And she shook her head, "Yes," 716 00:39:48,777 --> 00:39:52,955 and we just started holding each other, 717 00:39:52,999 --> 00:39:55,871 and I said, "I'm afraid we're all gonna die." 718 00:39:55,915 --> 00:39:58,874 [ominous music] 719 00:39:58,918 --> 00:40:03,183 ♪♪ 720 00:40:03,226 --> 00:40:05,490 [Guinn] At Port Kaituma, 721 00:40:05,533 --> 00:40:08,014 Ryan, because there's so many people coming, 722 00:40:08,057 --> 00:40:10,669 has called ahead asking that an extra plane come, 723 00:40:10,712 --> 00:40:14,020 that there would be two planes instead of one. 724 00:40:14,063 --> 00:40:17,980 ♪♪ 725 00:40:20,418 --> 00:40:22,768 They're still sorting that out 726 00:40:22,811 --> 00:40:25,118 when Leo Ryan is going to go ahead 727 00:40:25,161 --> 00:40:28,991 and give an interview to the TV crew on the tarmac. 728 00:40:29,035 --> 00:40:31,516 Did he say anything when he came up? Yeah. 729 00:40:31,559 --> 00:40:34,475 He said something about, uh, rob and choke and kill 730 00:40:34,519 --> 00:40:36,738 and, uh-- or knife. I don't-- I don't know. 731 00:40:36,782 --> 00:40:38,523 But the obvi-- What he said was, 732 00:40:38,566 --> 00:40:42,048 he intended to kill me. 733 00:40:42,091 --> 00:40:45,181 [Speier] Congressman Ryan is talking to some members of the press. 734 00:40:45,225 --> 00:40:48,489 I start to board passengers onto planes. 735 00:40:48,533 --> 00:40:51,623 And I'm boarding the smaller plane first. 736 00:40:51,666 --> 00:40:57,367 [Gosney] Myself and Larry Layton were assigned to the small plane. 737 00:40:57,411 --> 00:40:59,674 [Speier] Congressman Ryan, at this point, has come over, 738 00:40:59,718 --> 00:41:03,939 and I says, "You know, I don't trust Larry Layton. 739 00:41:03,983 --> 00:41:06,812 I don't want to be on the same plane." 740 00:41:06,855 --> 00:41:08,770 One of the press people is there 741 00:41:08,814 --> 00:41:11,860 and I said, "Would you just frisk him?" 742 00:41:11,904 --> 00:41:14,428 He frisks him. 743 00:41:14,472 --> 00:41:15,560 Doesn't find the gun. 744 00:41:15,603 --> 00:41:17,692 [vehicle approaching] 745 00:41:17,736 --> 00:41:23,785 [Guinn] All of a sudden, in comes the tractor from Jonestown. 746 00:41:23,829 --> 00:41:27,485 They're starting to think, "Uh-oh, there's trouble." 747 00:41:33,839 --> 00:41:36,015 And all of a sudden, there was this noise. 748 00:41:36,058 --> 00:41:38,583 [gunshots] 749 00:41:38,626 --> 00:41:40,454 [Gosney] I looked out the window and said, 750 00:41:40,498 --> 00:41:44,197 "They're killing everybody. They're killing everybody." 751 00:41:44,240 --> 00:41:47,505 [gunshots] 752 00:41:47,548 --> 00:41:50,464 [gunfire echoing] 57087

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