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[dramatic music]
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[gunshots]
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[screaming][Jim Jones Jr.]
Dad's been shot.
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Our leader's been gunned down.
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People were screaming,
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"Father's shot!
Father's shot!"
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[Jim Jones Jr.]
There's blood flowing
from his chest.
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[Wagner-Wilson]
Then they rushed everybody
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into the temple.
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We're scared because
we don't know if someone else
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is out there shooting.
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Was it one shooter?
Was it more than one shooter?
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And so we're in the temple,
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and people are just in a panic
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that we might lose Father.
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A mourn quiet comes over
the whole community.
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[Stephan Jones]
I was really afraid.
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The idea of outside threat,
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the idea of them and us,
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that if you weren't with us,
you were against us.
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That was the message
we heard constantly.
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[doors open]
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[Wagner-Wilson]
The doors opened,
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and one of Jim's security
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was carrying this shirt
with blood.
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[Jim Jones Jr.]
There's red stains on it,
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and there's two holes
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that you can put
a finger through.
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[Wagner-Wilson]
And Jim's behind him,
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but there's not a mark on him.
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He's healed himself.
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[Jim Jones, recording]
You can put me into the noose,
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you can hang my body,
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but I'll spring up again.
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You cannot stamp me out!
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I'm here to stay!
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[people cheering]
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People are in a frenzy.
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I mean, crying,
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joyful, ecstatic.
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It was-- the energy was just,
it was just electric.
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And we're thinking, oh, my God,
Father healed himself.
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[Jim Jones]
You've never seen anyone
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shot down as I was,
before your eyes,
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with blood
spurting from the body
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and healed himself?
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Yet I, a socialist worker,
did that.
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[cheering]
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How many believe
that I am the savior?
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[cheering]
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The only savior?
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[cheers and applause]
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[Wagner-Wilson]
They were convinced
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that this man is God.
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[Jim Jones Jr.]
It brought people together.
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He was going to be the force,
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the person,
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who was gonna lead us
to the promised land.
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[dramatic music]
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It wasn't until later
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that I knew
that that was fake.
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[Stephan]
Later on,
I learned from my mother
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how that had gone down and that
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blanks were fired,
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uh, to fake this,
this attack.
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I don't know how it was faked,
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but my father was always looking
for ways to create drama
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so that he could be the savior
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and the champion
within all that drama.
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[Wagner-Wilson]
Everything he did was a test
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to see how many people
were gonna stay...
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and how many people
were gonna leave.
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So every moment he's pushing
the envelope a little bit,
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you know,
a little bit further, right?
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[Jim Jones Jr.]
People were true believers.
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And you wanted to be
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because you were going to
change the world.
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[Gosney]
I believed in him 100%,
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and I believed in
who he said he was.
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I would follow Jim Jones
anywhere, and I did.
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[dramatic music]
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[Gosney]
When we moved to San Francisco,
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things went to the next level.
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[Jeff Guinn]
Peoples Temple is
getting more people,
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they're getting more money,
the fame is spreading.
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But you can only go so far
in Redwood Valley.
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[Jim Jones]
In San Francisco, we have more
political strength,
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and that's important.
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You've got the backing
of some people.
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If we build
outside of the city,
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we don't have that backing.
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[Guinn]
In San Francisco,
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he is going to gradually
insinuate himself
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until he becomes a power broker.
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♪♪
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[cars honking]
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[Kilduff]
I first heard of Peoples Temple
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when I was a part-time writer
for the Chronicle
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back in the early '70s.
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[flash bulb popping]
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They would turn out
big crowds at rallies.
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[indistinct chanting]
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The city was full of groups
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that had shown they weren't
happy with conventional life.
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[indistinct chanting]
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Jones very much
played into that.
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He was a new guy with a new
message with a new act.
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[Jim Jones]
This country will not be safe
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until we do something
to share the wealth
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and share it
completely and fairly
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and democratically
and peacefully. [cheering]
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[Kilduff]
He donated money,
he participated in causes,
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he cultivated friends
in a very clever way.
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He rose fast
as a political power.
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[Jim Jones Jr.]
Jim Jones was known as a person,
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if you had a political
activism going on,
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call Jim Jones,
get him involved.
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And Jim Jones had to see
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how he could manipulate it
for himself.
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Reverend Jones,
how do you account for
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such an avid following
as you seem to have?
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I'm principled.
I'm dedicated to my people.
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He loved the attention.
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You know, he loved to be
mingling with
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the crème de la crme,
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the politicians
in San Francisco.
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He was thriving in that.
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[Carter]
Rosalynn Carter was in the city
to campaign for her husband,
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and where she was at,
there weren't that many people
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that showed up, and so somebody
called up Jones and said,
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"Can you get some people here?"
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And so he filled up
three buses
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and drove everybody down there,
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and all of a sudden
there was a big crowd,
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and on the news it was
"Look at the warm reception
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"that Rosalynn Carter
is receiving
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here in San Francisco."
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[Jim Jones Jr.]
And Rosalynn Carter
met with him privately
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to talk about his
political involvement
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in Jimmy Carter's election.
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So much to where he got
an invite to the inauguration.
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[eerie music]
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[Guinn]
The legend of Jim Jones
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and Peoples Temple
is out there.
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And money comes pouring in.
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I'm very much
interested in...
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[Guinn]
He's becoming
more and more popular.
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The newspapers cover him
like a celebrity.
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[flash bulb popping]
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In San Francisco,
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you've got
Willie Mays,
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you got the jazz scene,
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and now, all of a sudden,
you've got Jim Jones.
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[Stephan]
My father was always grandiose,
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far back as I can remember,
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and that grandiosity only grew
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as the temple grew.
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He was always managing
his image of himself.
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Because he was always at war
with that voice inside of him,
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I believe,
that was telling him
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he wasn't enough,
he was a fraud.
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And I think that's where drugs
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really came in
much more heavily.
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[eerie music]
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[Guinn]
Jim Jones had always been
mistrustful of most people,
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but the rampant drug use
increased his paranoia.
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As the Temple grew,
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Jones felt like
he's losing touch
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with rank and file members.
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He feels as though some
of his people may betray him.
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So he creates
the Planning Commission.
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[Dr. Mary McCormick Maaga]
The Planning Commission
was made up
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of the leadership
of People's Temple.
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♪♪
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And they were the ones who were
closest to Jim Jones personally.
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They were the ones
that were making decisions about
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the day to day operations
of People's Temple.
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[Guinn]
At their meetings,
it gives Jones a chance
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to sit there and listen
to what people are talking about
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and get some sense of the way
"his people" are feeling.
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[dramatic music]
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[Johnston Kohl]
I was on the Planning Commission
for five years.
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During a Planning Commission
meeting,
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I'd pass around a paper,
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and people
who had information
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about how somebody was doing
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would write down notes.
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I'd type it up
and then give it to Jim
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and the secretaries.
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It became more
of a spying on you thing.
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[eerie music]
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[Gosney]
The Planning Commission
at the People's Temple,
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as far as
I was concerned,
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was an enforcement agency.
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If you got called
to the Planning Commission,
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you were in some serious,
serious trouble.
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[Wagner-Wilson]
There was a consequence
to any infraction,
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whether it be, you fell asleep
during a meeting,
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someone reported that you were
having affair with someone else.
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[Gosney]
I was called
to the Planning Commission.
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I had just gotten
my ears pierced.
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Jim Jones said,
"Well, what did you do that for?
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How bourgeois is that?"
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And I, I made some remark,
and they all just jumped me.
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[angry shouting]
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All these people starting
pounding me and stuff
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and, I think,
ripped the earrings out.
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I was not considered
by Jim Jones
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as one of the faithful.
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I got in trouble a lot.
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[overlapping chatter]
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[sighing]
It's so sickening.
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I can't hardly talk about it.
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And then it gets to...
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the boxing matches.
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You're gonna
have an opponent
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that would beat on someone
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that was not even
a physical match to them.
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It would get bloody.
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They're not supposed to
even fight back,
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you're just
supposed to get beat.
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And Jim, he would laugh
over this type of thing,
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that sinister laugh he had.
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[Jim Jones laughing]
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[laughter continues]
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Jim Jones had
a sadistic quality,
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he absolutely did.
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He enjoyed that type of thing.
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It was like a gladiator sport
to him, I think.
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[Grace Stoen]
They set up
the counseling department
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and eventually I got made
head counselor.
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And I'll never forget,
one night in a meeting,
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I saw somebody
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very severely beaten.
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And I saw them the next day
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professing their love
for Jim Jones
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as they were
walking in the church.
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And I looked at them
and I said to myself,
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"I don't ever want
to be broken
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and in this situation
as a broken person."
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I'd rather be dead
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than to live
the rest of my life
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in this situation.
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I knew I had to leave.
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♪♪
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[Jeff Guinn]
From the time he organized
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his first storefront church
in Indianapolis,
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Jones took it personally
any time anybody left.
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He couldn't stand it.
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[Maaga]
Because loyalty was the greatest
value within Peoples Temple,
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defection was the greatest sin.
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There was always the fear
that anybody that left
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would be utilized
by the enemies
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to help tear down
Peoples Temple.
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[Guinn]
He preaches that
once you're in with us,
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you're part of us forever.
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[cheering]
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He has members sign statements
259
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claiming that they had done
all sorts of terrible things,
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from committing
cold-blooded murder
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to planning the assassination
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of the President
of the United States.
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[Stoen]
I signed blank pieces of paper,
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I signed pieces of paper that
I wanted to kill the President.
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00:13:48,479 --> 00:13:51,178
I signed pieces of paper
that I molested my child.
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Try being in a room
with 50 people,
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and you're asked to sign
a blank piece of paper
268
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and say,
"No, I'm not gonna sign it."
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If you didn't sign it,
they're like,
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"Oh, are you
thinking about leaving?
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Should we be concerned
about you?"
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[Guinn]
He's got something on everyone.
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All of it manufactured.
274
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But making it clear,
"If you leave this church,
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we'll make it hard on you."
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I was done.
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00:14:20,381 --> 00:14:21,556
Spent.
278
00:14:21,599 --> 00:14:23,688
[flash bulb popping]
279
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[Kilduff]
Grace Stoen was
Peoples Temple royalty.
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She had a child
while in the church.
281
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Jones claimed the child as his.
282
00:14:31,218 --> 00:14:33,220
She knew a lot about
church activities,
283
00:14:33,263 --> 00:14:36,745
she was very informed
on how the church operated.
284
00:14:36,788 --> 00:14:39,052
But then the personal stuff,
the beatings,
285
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were just too heavy
a memory and an experience
286
00:14:42,185 --> 00:14:43,621
for her to ignore.
287
00:14:43,665 --> 00:14:45,493
[faint radio chatter]
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[Stoen]
I'll never forget, we were on
a cross-country trip
289
00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:52,282
and one of the members
came to me and he said,
290
00:14:52,326 --> 00:14:55,155
"Grace, please stop acting out,
stop acting up."
291
00:14:55,198 --> 00:14:57,026
He said,
"They're talking about you.
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"They're gonna get you
when we get back
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00:14:58,375 --> 00:15:01,291
and they're gonna
beat you up."
294
00:15:01,335 --> 00:15:02,553
And I said to myself,
295
00:15:02,597 --> 00:15:04,686
"I'll never allow myself
to get beaten."
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00:15:07,341 --> 00:15:09,647
I knew I had to leave.
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00:15:09,691 --> 00:15:13,260
[tense music]
298
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And, uh, I just
gathered some stuff.
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I didn't tell anyone
I was leaving.
300
00:15:21,268 --> 00:15:22,356
I snuck out.
301
00:15:29,972 --> 00:15:35,499
And I ended up escaping
with one of the bus drivers.
302
00:15:35,543 --> 00:15:37,980
We were told to leave the state
303
00:15:38,024 --> 00:15:39,851
because we were going to be
hunted down and killed
304
00:15:39,895 --> 00:15:43,203
if we ever left.
305
00:15:43,246 --> 00:15:44,900
[Guinn]
She left the temple
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00:15:44,944 --> 00:15:48,512
but leaving her son behind.
307
00:15:48,556 --> 00:15:51,080
She knew that she couldn't
probably pry him loose
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00:15:51,124 --> 00:15:52,734
and get away like that.
309
00:15:52,777 --> 00:15:58,174
[sorrowful music]
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It was hard.
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It was,
it was very har--
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very devastating for me.
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♪♪
314
00:16:07,401 --> 00:16:10,273
And we left on July 3rd
315
00:16:10,317 --> 00:16:12,493
and I'll never forget,
we woke up
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00:16:12,536 --> 00:16:14,799
to what we thought
were gunshots.
317
00:16:14,843 --> 00:16:16,627
[loud banging]
318
00:16:16,671 --> 00:16:18,020
We sat up and we went,
319
00:16:18,064 --> 00:16:19,500
"Oh, my God,
they've already found us."
320
00:16:21,415 --> 00:16:23,199
Only to realize
it was firecrackers.
321
00:16:23,243 --> 00:16:26,898
It was 4th of July.[bottle rocket whistling]
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[Guinn]
Every time someone would leave,
323
00:16:57,538 --> 00:17:01,455
Jones would absolutely
lose it.
324
00:17:01,498 --> 00:17:06,764
Jones was so paranoid about
the loyalty of his people,
325
00:17:06,808 --> 00:17:08,679
he decided he would give
the Planning Commission members
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00:17:08,723 --> 00:17:10,420
the ultimate test.
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00:17:10,464 --> 00:17:12,814
♪♪
328
00:17:16,948 --> 00:17:19,038
We're having a Planning
Commission meeting
in San Francisco.
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00:17:21,605 --> 00:17:22,867
Meeting starts,
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00:17:22,911 --> 00:17:25,087
and the ranch
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00:17:25,131 --> 00:17:26,480
had a small vineyard
332
00:17:26,523 --> 00:17:27,742
that was part of
the property that was there.
333
00:17:29,918 --> 00:17:31,920
So on this night, he said,
334
00:17:31,963 --> 00:17:34,575
"We have some wine
from the ranch.
335
00:17:34,618 --> 00:17:36,620
Everybody's invited
to have some."
336
00:17:39,580 --> 00:17:41,756
There were Styrofoam cups,
337
00:17:41,799 --> 00:17:43,714
like, half filled with wine.
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00:17:46,848 --> 00:17:47,762
Drank the wine.
339
00:17:50,808 --> 00:17:52,462
And, like, five minutes later,
Jones says,
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00:17:52,506 --> 00:17:53,855
"You've all just been poisoned."
341
00:17:53,898 --> 00:17:55,596
[eerie music]
342
00:17:57,467 --> 00:18:01,080
So immediately, inside,
my adrenaline starts running.
343
00:18:01,123 --> 00:18:02,472
[muffled commotion]
344
00:18:02,516 --> 00:18:04,213
People were yelling
and screaming.
345
00:18:08,130 --> 00:18:10,132
Jones says,
you have an hour to live.
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00:18:10,176 --> 00:18:12,656
♪♪
347
00:18:26,583 --> 00:18:29,238
Jim Jones says,
"You've all just been poisoned."
348
00:18:29,282 --> 00:18:32,023
[eerie music]
349
00:18:32,067 --> 00:18:35,418
"You have an hour to live."
350
00:18:35,462 --> 00:18:36,898
[Jeff Guinn]
Jones says, "No one leaves."
351
00:18:38,900 --> 00:18:42,164
And the minutes go by.
352
00:18:42,208 --> 00:18:44,035
People start saying,
"I can feel myself dying,
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00:18:44,079 --> 00:18:45,341
I'm feeling faint."
354
00:18:50,564 --> 00:18:52,566
So after about 45 minutes,
Jones says,
355
00:18:52,609 --> 00:18:54,220
"Okay, well, you haven't
all been poisoned."
356
00:18:56,874 --> 00:19:00,617
"This was a test to see
how you handle death."
357
00:19:00,661 --> 00:19:02,880
♪♪
358
00:19:02,924 --> 00:19:05,405
So I thought, okay,
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00:19:05,448 --> 00:19:08,103
he's teaching people what it's
like to face your own mortality,
360
00:19:08,147 --> 00:19:09,278
your own death.
361
00:19:09,322 --> 00:19:10,279
That's how
I rationalized that.
362
00:19:10,323 --> 00:19:11,802
And I want to make it clear,
363
00:19:11,846 --> 00:19:13,326
that it was a rationalization
on my part.
364
00:19:15,241 --> 00:19:17,417
[Guinn]
Not one of them
grabbed Jones by the throat,
365
00:19:17,460 --> 00:19:18,853
you know,
"You son of a bitch."
366
00:19:18,896 --> 00:19:21,725
There was none of that reaction.
367
00:19:21,769 --> 00:19:24,337
He had people that much cowed,
368
00:19:24,380 --> 00:19:27,427
that much
under his control.
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00:19:27,470 --> 00:19:30,604
[Stephan]
He really enjoyed seeing
what people did.
370
00:19:30,647 --> 00:19:32,301
And it was a test
of loyalty, right?
371
00:19:32,345 --> 00:19:35,783
"Are these people
really willing to just lay down
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00:19:35,826 --> 00:19:39,569
now that I've told them
I've killed them?"
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00:19:39,613 --> 00:19:41,528
He was very sadistic
at that point.
374
00:19:44,052 --> 00:19:45,880
[Carter]
Looking back on it,
375
00:19:45,923 --> 00:19:48,187
I think the appropriate response
would've been,
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00:19:48,230 --> 00:19:50,580
"This is a crazy M.F.,
377
00:19:50,624 --> 00:19:52,756
and it's time for me
to get out of Dodge."
378
00:19:55,629 --> 00:19:59,589
[Maaga]
It's clear that
as early as 1974,
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00:19:59,633 --> 00:20:01,417
that Jim Jones realizes that
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00:20:01,461 --> 00:20:04,028
some of the practices
of Peoples Temple
381
00:20:04,072 --> 00:20:05,204
cannot be sustained.
382
00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:08,816
The punitive practices
with people.
383
00:20:11,558 --> 00:20:12,950
The paranoid practices.
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00:20:14,300 --> 00:20:16,040
All of these things
eventually mean
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00:20:16,084 --> 00:20:18,042
that law enforcement
is gonna come in
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00:20:18,086 --> 00:20:20,044
and break up Peoples Temple.
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00:20:21,655 --> 00:20:24,266
He needed a place that
they could escape to
388
00:20:24,310 --> 00:20:26,312
in case criticism
became too great,
389
00:20:26,355 --> 00:20:28,052
and in case Jim Jones himself
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00:20:28,096 --> 00:20:29,619
was in danger
of being arrested.
391
00:20:31,665 --> 00:20:35,321
♪♪
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00:20:41,501 --> 00:20:44,199
[Guinn]
He loves Guyana
'cause it's socialist,
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00:20:44,243 --> 00:20:46,854
it's mostly minority,
394
00:20:46,897 --> 00:20:48,986
because it's the only country
in South America
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00:20:49,030 --> 00:20:50,553
where the national language
is English.
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00:20:52,468 --> 00:20:57,691
He ultimately works out a deal
with the Guyanese government
397
00:20:57,734 --> 00:21:00,781
and sends a crew out
to start building Jonestown.
398
00:21:00,824 --> 00:21:03,827
♪♪
399
00:21:03,871 --> 00:21:05,612
[Carter]
So it started in '74.
400
00:21:05,655 --> 00:21:07,440
I think there was, like,
seven guys that went down there.
401
00:21:07,483 --> 00:21:09,833
All of them had some
heavy equipment experience.
402
00:21:12,053 --> 00:21:14,490
[Stephan]
We cleared a lot of land
403
00:21:14,534 --> 00:21:17,319
and we built
a lot of structures
404
00:21:17,363 --> 00:21:19,016
in very short time.
405
00:21:19,060 --> 00:21:20,757
It was hard, hard work.
406
00:21:30,811 --> 00:21:33,204
[Guinn]
They are trying to build
a village
407
00:21:33,248 --> 00:21:36,425
that would be able to hold
about 500 people,
408
00:21:36,469 --> 00:21:37,905
to live there, to work there,
409
00:21:37,948 --> 00:21:39,602
to feed them from the crops,
and so forth.
410
00:21:48,089 --> 00:21:51,310
♪♪
411
00:21:51,353 --> 00:21:54,095
It's the hottest part
of the entire year
412
00:21:54,138 --> 00:21:56,967
and, uh,
they're doing real well.
413
00:21:57,011 --> 00:21:59,666
When I first heard about
Jonestown was 1974.
414
00:21:59,709 --> 00:22:01,972
Jim Jones had just come back
from Guyana
415
00:22:02,016 --> 00:22:06,499
and was giving a talk
about Jonestown,
416
00:22:06,542 --> 00:22:09,110
and it's going to be
an agricultural community.
417
00:22:09,153 --> 00:22:10,241
♪♪
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00:22:14,376 --> 00:22:15,725
[Jim Jones]
Back over here is the area
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00:22:15,769 --> 00:22:18,337
we're clearing
for more planting.
420
00:22:18,380 --> 00:22:20,730
Potatoes and carrots
and eddoes
421
00:22:20,774 --> 00:22:24,038
and, uh, papaya.
422
00:22:24,081 --> 00:22:26,736
[Wagner-Wilson]
We could grow our own food
423
00:22:26,780 --> 00:22:28,477
and there would be a community,
424
00:22:28,521 --> 00:22:31,872
and there wouldn't be
any violence or racism.
425
00:22:31,915 --> 00:22:36,485
And it was going to be
"the Promised Land."
426
00:22:36,529 --> 00:22:38,879
Darrin, how do you like it
here in the Promised Land?
427
00:22:42,143 --> 00:22:45,102
My name is Anthony Simon,
I'm here in the Promised Land.
428
00:22:45,146 --> 00:22:46,626
My name is Don Swonie,
429
00:22:46,669 --> 00:22:49,150
and, um, I'm grateful
to be down here.
430
00:22:49,193 --> 00:22:51,108
I'm working on
our fishing trawler
431
00:22:51,152 --> 00:22:53,850
and I enjoy going down
the rivers and meeting
new people.
432
00:22:53,894 --> 00:22:57,637
It is more freer down here
and it's more beautiful.
433
00:22:57,680 --> 00:22:59,029
[inspiring music]
434
00:23:03,773 --> 00:23:06,472
[laughing]
435
00:23:06,515 --> 00:23:08,604
♪♪
436
00:23:08,648 --> 00:23:10,867
This is a walking stick,
friends.
437
00:23:10,911 --> 00:23:12,608
But that's a gentle guy.
438
00:23:12,652 --> 00:23:14,044
Walking stick.
439
00:23:14,088 --> 00:23:15,785
[chatter and laughter]
440
00:23:15,829 --> 00:23:19,267
Jim Jones said
to be able to go to Jonestown
441
00:23:19,310 --> 00:23:20,355
was a privilege.
442
00:23:22,401 --> 00:23:26,579
It was... a reward to go there.
443
00:23:28,842 --> 00:23:32,323
[Stephan]
The time that I spent there
building the town
444
00:23:32,367 --> 00:23:35,544
that our community
was going to come live in,
445
00:23:35,588 --> 00:23:38,591
was one of the happiest times
of my life
446
00:23:38,634 --> 00:23:41,028
up to that point.
447
00:23:42,856 --> 00:23:44,423
[Jim Jones]
We are going to have peace
448
00:23:44,466 --> 00:23:46,076
in our Promised Land valley.
449
00:23:48,731 --> 00:23:51,038
Now, in retrospect, I know much
of what he said at that time
450
00:23:51,081 --> 00:23:52,692
was just a flat-out lie.
451
00:24:02,310 --> 00:24:03,354
[dramatic music]
452
00:24:04,921 --> 00:24:08,925
[faint traffic noise]
453
00:24:08,969 --> 00:24:10,971
[flashbulb snaps]
454
00:24:11,014 --> 00:24:14,278
[Marshall Kilduff]
I was a city hall reporter
in San Francisco.
455
00:24:14,322 --> 00:24:16,846
I noticed Jones
had a lot of events,
456
00:24:16,890 --> 00:24:19,675
where he would bring in
huge numbers of people
457
00:24:19,719 --> 00:24:22,896
for inconsequential meetings.
458
00:24:22,939 --> 00:24:24,550
So that piqued my curiosity.
459
00:24:24,593 --> 00:24:26,769
Why does he behave
this way?
460
00:24:26,813 --> 00:24:29,076
Isn't it unusual for
a religious figure to travel
461
00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,513
in this kind of exalted way?
462
00:24:33,297 --> 00:24:35,517
I thought there was
more to Jim Jones.
463
00:24:35,561 --> 00:24:38,128
So I went to a local California
magazine at the time
464
00:24:38,172 --> 00:24:40,348
called "New West,"
and they said,
465
00:24:40,391 --> 00:24:41,958
"Um, okay, let's see
what you got."
466
00:24:44,091 --> 00:24:48,138
[Stoen]
I had heard Marshall Kilduff
had been looking for me.
467
00:24:48,182 --> 00:24:51,272
And Jeannie and Al Mills,
468
00:24:51,315 --> 00:24:53,579
who had defected before I did,
469
00:24:53,622 --> 00:24:55,885
called me one night
and they said,
470
00:24:55,929 --> 00:24:57,713
"We're gonna do an article."
471
00:24:57,757 --> 00:24:59,585
And I said that
I would, too,
472
00:24:59,628 --> 00:25:00,977
that I wasn't gonna
let 'em do it alone,
473
00:25:01,021 --> 00:25:02,413
that I would speak as well.
474
00:25:05,242 --> 00:25:06,592
[Kilduff]
The ex-members,
475
00:25:06,635 --> 00:25:09,856
the folks who had
fled the church said,
476
00:25:09,899 --> 00:25:11,422
"Here's what you don't know."
477
00:25:11,466 --> 00:25:13,599
[phone ringing]
478
00:25:13,642 --> 00:25:16,558
[Stoen]
And I think we were there till,
like, 3:00 in the morning.
479
00:25:16,602 --> 00:25:18,517
I told them everything.
480
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:22,956
The more power that he got,
the sicker he got.
481
00:25:22,999 --> 00:25:26,089
[Jeannie Mills]
The whippings got
worse and worse.
482
00:25:26,133 --> 00:25:29,440
Our daughter was beaten
75 times with a board.
483
00:25:29,484 --> 00:25:33,357
[Bonnie Thielmann]
I ran with my child out,
got into my car
484
00:25:33,401 --> 00:25:35,882
and he was yelling my name
as I left.
485
00:25:35,925 --> 00:25:38,537
He told me that there would be
an accident in which
486
00:25:38,580 --> 00:25:40,277
all three of us
would be killed.
487
00:25:40,321 --> 00:25:43,759
Once you enter Peoples Temple,
you don't leave.
488
00:25:43,803 --> 00:25:45,587
Or you don't leave
very easily.
489
00:25:45,631 --> 00:25:47,328
There are death threats.
490
00:25:47,371 --> 00:25:49,504
There is a lot of pressure
from the congregation.
491
00:25:49,548 --> 00:25:51,462
We talked it over
with our children,
492
00:25:51,506 --> 00:25:54,074
explained to them that we were
going to be quitting the church.
493
00:25:54,117 --> 00:25:56,467
And they said,
"Well, Mom and Dad,
494
00:25:56,511 --> 00:26:00,036
"we love you very much,
and we just hope
495
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,430
"that when you do
decide to quit the church,
496
00:26:02,473 --> 00:26:05,215
you move far away, so we aren't
the ones assigned to kill you."
497
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:08,697
I don't think I really realized
498
00:26:08,741 --> 00:26:12,396
how dangerous
a position that I was in,
499
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:15,922
but I just credit it
to being young.
500
00:26:15,965 --> 00:26:18,664
And not knowing any differently
or any better.
501
00:26:20,274 --> 00:26:22,885
I think what we had to say
needed to be heard
502
00:26:22,929 --> 00:26:24,670
because, in the past,
503
00:26:24,713 --> 00:26:29,631
Jim had always been able to
stifle any bad press like that.
504
00:26:29,675 --> 00:26:35,376
So they were just blown away
by what we had to say.
505
00:26:37,944 --> 00:26:40,599
[Kilduff]
"We were beaten, we had to
give up all our money."
506
00:26:40,642 --> 00:26:42,818
[crowd cheering]
507
00:26:42,862 --> 00:26:44,167
"There's a sexual angle here
508
00:26:44,211 --> 00:26:45,691
that we don't think
you know about."
509
00:26:45,734 --> 00:26:48,084
[crowd cheering]
510
00:26:48,128 --> 00:26:49,782
Fake healings.
511
00:26:51,131 --> 00:26:53,786
The church's inner dynamics.
512
00:26:53,829 --> 00:26:56,266
The whole thing.
513
00:26:56,310 --> 00:26:57,572
I had no idea.
514
00:26:57,616 --> 00:26:59,269
This was a new level
of problem,
515
00:26:59,313 --> 00:27:00,488
a new level of the story.
516
00:27:02,838 --> 00:27:04,100
I talked to his aides,
I talked
517
00:27:04,144 --> 00:27:06,015
to everybody I could
at the church.
518
00:27:06,059 --> 00:27:08,322
So Jones knew
I was working on stories,
519
00:27:08,365 --> 00:27:10,890
but he never wanted to talk.
520
00:27:10,933 --> 00:27:13,719
[Wagner-Wilson]
Jim advised us defectors
were talking to
521
00:27:13,762 --> 00:27:15,285
"New West" magazine.
522
00:27:15,329 --> 00:27:17,853
And there was going to be
an article full of lies
523
00:27:17,897 --> 00:27:19,681
about Peoples Temple.
524
00:27:19,725 --> 00:27:21,030
We knew it was trouble.
525
00:27:21,074 --> 00:27:23,032
We knew that people
were talking about
526
00:27:23,076 --> 00:27:25,687
what was-- happened
behind closed doors,
527
00:27:25,731 --> 00:27:27,907
which we were not supposed
to speak about.
528
00:27:38,657 --> 00:27:42,138
[Guinn]
Jones knew maybe his followers
529
00:27:42,182 --> 00:27:44,271
initially are gonna
believe in him.
530
00:27:44,314 --> 00:27:47,491
If Father says none of
it's true, it's fake news.
531
00:27:47,535 --> 00:27:51,017
But his political base--
532
00:27:51,060 --> 00:27:54,760
the mayor
of San Francisco,
533
00:27:54,803 --> 00:27:56,936
the governor of California--
534
00:27:56,979 --> 00:27:59,199
he's gonna lose
that political clout.
535
00:27:59,242 --> 00:28:01,854
And when he loses that,
536
00:28:01,897 --> 00:28:05,553
he's going to lose
his standing in San Francisco,
537
00:28:05,596 --> 00:28:08,295
he's gonna look terrible.
538
00:28:08,338 --> 00:28:11,515
[Jordan Vilchez]
Jim was like hyper,
539
00:28:11,559 --> 00:28:13,648
and he increased the talk about
540
00:28:13,692 --> 00:28:18,740
enemies and defectors
and traitors
541
00:28:18,784 --> 00:28:21,003
and people out to get us.
542
00:28:24,572 --> 00:28:27,967
[Guinn]
When the story breaks,
it's tremendously controversial.
543
00:28:29,708 --> 00:28:33,015
Everybody reads it,
everybody's talking about it.
544
00:28:33,059 --> 00:28:35,148
Both San Francisco newspapers
545
00:28:35,191 --> 00:28:37,498
immediately assign
their own reporters now.
546
00:28:37,541 --> 00:28:40,588
"Dig in. Do more. Find more."
547
00:28:40,631 --> 00:28:43,852
Reverend Jim Jones works
in some very unexpected ways.
548
00:28:43,896 --> 00:28:45,114
Why didn't you just
get out?
549
00:28:45,158 --> 00:28:46,855
Where did all that money go?
550
00:28:46,899 --> 00:28:48,901
He had us sign papers,
blank papers.
551
00:28:48,944 --> 00:28:50,337
"No matter what
goes on here, you go out
552
00:28:50,380 --> 00:28:52,121
"and tell everybody
everything's okay.
553
00:28:52,165 --> 00:28:55,255
Deny everything you hear
about what's going on here."
554
00:28:56,822 --> 00:28:59,955
[Guinn]
The TV stations
are all there, flocking.
555
00:28:59,999 --> 00:29:02,479
"Where's Jim Jones?"
556
00:29:02,523 --> 00:29:03,698
By the time
the story came out
557
00:29:03,742 --> 00:29:06,135
and there was this doubt
about him,
558
00:29:06,179 --> 00:29:08,921
he wasn't around
to answer for it.
559
00:29:08,964 --> 00:29:11,358
[Jim Jones Jr.]
In the "New West" article,
560
00:29:11,401 --> 00:29:15,057
some of the questions
had to have direct answers.
561
00:29:15,101 --> 00:29:17,581
He didn't want
to answer the questions.
562
00:29:17,625 --> 00:29:19,975
The [bleep] storm
is not gonna stop.
563
00:29:20,019 --> 00:29:22,630
So the only solution
is to get out.
564
00:29:22,673 --> 00:29:25,894
So I remember my father saying,
"We're going to Guyana."
565
00:29:33,032 --> 00:29:36,035
[man]
I think that Jim Jones
was afraid to face the publicity
566
00:29:36,078 --> 00:29:39,516
and answer the questions
here in this country.
567
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:44,565
[Jim Jones Jr.]
After the "New West" article
backlash that happened...
568
00:29:44,608 --> 00:29:46,872
groundswell started.
569
00:29:46,915 --> 00:29:49,570
"What's the story
behind Jim Jones?"
570
00:29:49,613 --> 00:29:52,529
Was all the magic
that Peoples Temple put out,
571
00:29:52,573 --> 00:29:54,531
was it true?
572
00:29:54,575 --> 00:29:57,578
And if you scratched the surface
a little bit,
573
00:29:57,621 --> 00:30:00,581
you saw maybe it-- it wasn't.
574
00:30:00,624 --> 00:30:02,583
[Mary McCormick Maaga]
In Guyana,
575
00:30:02,626 --> 00:30:06,500
Jim Jones was outraged
by the "New West" article.
576
00:30:06,543 --> 00:30:08,719
And he was also very frightened.
577
00:30:08,763 --> 00:30:11,157
He was afraid
that this would give
578
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:12,723
the detractors of Peoples Temple
579
00:30:12,767 --> 00:30:15,465
the ability to break up
the church.
580
00:30:17,641 --> 00:30:19,252
[Guinn]
The original plan was that,
581
00:30:19,295 --> 00:30:20,906
as soon as all this died down,
he'd be back.
582
00:30:20,949 --> 00:30:23,299
But it's not dying down.
583
00:30:23,343 --> 00:30:26,737
What he's got to do is
he's now got to make Jonestown
584
00:30:26,781 --> 00:30:30,437
the focal point
of Peoples Temple.
585
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:34,920
And now, suddenly, Jim Jones
wants virtually everybody
586
00:30:34,963 --> 00:30:37,966
in Peoples Temple
to get over there.
587
00:30:38,010 --> 00:30:39,489
[indistinct chatter]
588
00:30:39,533 --> 00:30:42,579
[dramatic music]
589
00:30:42,623 --> 00:30:48,020
[Vilchez]
I wasn't given a reason
why I was going to Jonestown.
590
00:30:48,063 --> 00:30:49,891
Things were in such a frenzy.
591
00:30:49,935 --> 00:30:52,938
It was just, "Let's get
people down there now."
592
00:30:52,981 --> 00:30:54,940
[dramatic music]
593
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:01,772
[Kilduff]
That summer, they began
shipping people out.
594
00:31:01,816 --> 00:31:03,905
Buses went down to banks,
595
00:31:03,949 --> 00:31:08,344
where people would deposit their
money into church accounts.
596
00:31:08,388 --> 00:31:09,911
They lined them up
with passports
597
00:31:09,955 --> 00:31:12,261
to get 'em
out of the country legally.
598
00:31:14,046 --> 00:31:17,136
[Carter]
My wife, Gloria,
was already in Guyana.
599
00:31:17,179 --> 00:31:19,747
And I wanted to be with her
600
00:31:19,790 --> 00:31:21,880
for the birth
of my child.
601
00:31:21,923 --> 00:31:23,794
It wasn't going to happen.
602
00:31:23,838 --> 00:31:26,667
I was sent to New York City
603
00:31:26,710 --> 00:31:30,932
to help facilitate people
getting to Guyana.
604
00:31:30,976 --> 00:31:33,065
The media attention
on the temple at that time
605
00:31:33,108 --> 00:31:35,284
was intense.
606
00:31:35,328 --> 00:31:36,982
So, they would fly
out of different airports,
607
00:31:37,025 --> 00:31:39,941
whether it was Los Angeles,
Sacramento, San Francisco,
608
00:31:39,985 --> 00:31:42,248
and they would fly on
different airlines
609
00:31:42,291 --> 00:31:44,815
and they would fly
in groups of three.
610
00:31:44,859 --> 00:31:46,774
They always sat apart
from each other,
611
00:31:46,817 --> 00:31:48,950
nobody recognized anybody else,
612
00:31:48,994 --> 00:31:51,997
and there was a flight
every day at 4:30.
613
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:53,650
[dramatic music]
614
00:32:03,530 --> 00:32:08,274
[Guinn]
It's important to understand
how isolated Jonestown was
615
00:32:08,317 --> 00:32:12,321
from Georgetown,
the capital of Guyana.
616
00:32:12,365 --> 00:32:18,240
You've got 160 miles
that cannot be driven.
617
00:32:18,284 --> 00:32:21,330
You have to either try to fly
over the top of the jungle
618
00:32:21,374 --> 00:32:23,419
and land on a tiny airstrip,
619
00:32:23,463 --> 00:32:25,856
or you have to take a boat
along the coast
620
00:32:25,900 --> 00:32:27,423
and down a river.
621
00:32:33,212 --> 00:32:35,649
[Gosney]
It was a 19-hour boat trip
622
00:32:35,692 --> 00:32:39,044
from Georgetown
up a river.
623
00:32:41,046 --> 00:32:43,352
Way, way, way, way up the river.
624
00:32:43,396 --> 00:32:45,354
[Wagner-Wilson]
I was seasick.
625
00:32:45,398 --> 00:32:48,009
It was not a pleasant trip.
626
00:32:48,053 --> 00:32:50,011
But part of me was happy.
It's like, "Don't complain,
627
00:32:50,055 --> 00:32:51,708
because you're on the way
to the promised land."
628
00:32:51,752 --> 00:32:54,059
♪♪
629
00:32:58,411 --> 00:33:02,067
[Wagner-Wilson]
When we pulled up to the dock
and we got off...
630
00:33:03,677 --> 00:33:06,636
...I was still apprehensive.
631
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,335
We got on the tractor
and we rounded this corner,
632
00:33:09,378 --> 00:33:11,032
and I could just hear them.
633
00:33:11,076 --> 00:33:13,513
♪ Welcome, welcome all of you
634
00:33:13,556 --> 00:33:16,081
♪ Welcome,
welcome all of you ♪
635
00:33:16,124 --> 00:33:19,693
♪ Glad you are with us
636
00:33:19,736 --> 00:33:23,044
♪♪
637
00:33:23,088 --> 00:33:24,480
What a swing.
638
00:33:24,524 --> 00:33:27,266
What liberation brings.
639
00:33:27,309 --> 00:33:30,747
[Wagner-Wilson]
Jonestown was a town,
it was a community.
640
00:33:30,791 --> 00:33:32,445
From the doctor's office...
641
00:33:34,273 --> 00:33:35,752
...to the pharmacy.
642
00:33:35,796 --> 00:33:37,450
[Jim Jones]
Medications here.
One whole shelf
643
00:33:37,493 --> 00:33:39,104
that goes half
the warehouse length.
644
00:33:39,147 --> 00:33:40,583
We have medical manuals,
645
00:33:40,627 --> 00:33:42,585
even how we could do surgery
if we had to.
646
00:33:42,629 --> 00:33:45,371
If civilization as we know it
now began to crumble.
647
00:33:45,414 --> 00:33:48,852
[Wagner-Wilson]
To the classrooms...
648
00:33:48,896 --> 00:33:50,332
to the kitchen.
649
00:33:57,383 --> 00:34:00,081
It was built from
scr-- from nothing.
650
00:34:00,125 --> 00:34:01,561
From nothing.
651
00:34:02,910 --> 00:34:05,304
[Gosney]
It was really kind of remarkable
652
00:34:05,347 --> 00:34:07,523
that this whole little town
653
00:34:07,567 --> 00:34:10,222
was built in the middle
of the jungle.
654
00:34:10,265 --> 00:34:13,834
Far, far away from anything.
655
00:34:17,098 --> 00:34:20,449
♪♪
656
00:34:20,493 --> 00:34:23,844
[Wagner-Wilson]
I... wanted to get back
to my husband.
657
00:34:23,887 --> 00:34:26,368
I was happy to see my baby,
658
00:34:26,412 --> 00:34:28,327
my son,
and spend time with him.
659
00:34:30,807 --> 00:34:32,940
[Carter]
When I finally got
into Jonestown,
660
00:34:32,983 --> 00:34:35,203
I got to see Gloria
and my son, Malcolm.
661
00:34:37,118 --> 00:34:41,166
I could actually feel tension
leaving my body.
662
00:34:41,209 --> 00:34:44,604
Really, it was
a physical sensation.
663
00:34:44,647 --> 00:34:48,260
Because it is incredibly
beautiful and peaceful.
664
00:34:48,303 --> 00:34:51,263
And I thought it was exciting.
665
00:34:51,306 --> 00:34:53,265
[children laughing]
666
00:34:53,308 --> 00:34:55,005
[Jim Jones]
We've been building
this community--
667
00:34:55,049 --> 00:34:57,834
as I look out over it,
it's the most fantastic thing--
668
00:34:57,878 --> 00:35:00,054
and we've made this
part of the country.
669
00:35:00,098 --> 00:35:02,274
We've enriched it by
everything that's growing
670
00:35:02,317 --> 00:35:03,927
and all of these
beautiful buildings,
671
00:35:03,971 --> 00:35:06,104
and our medical clinic,
and our lovely homes.
672
00:35:10,804 --> 00:35:13,415
[Wagner-Wilson]
A typical day in Jonestown
was up at 5:00.
673
00:35:13,459 --> 00:35:15,374
There would be someone
on the side of the--
674
00:35:15,417 --> 00:35:16,984
the cabin with a stick.
675
00:35:17,027 --> 00:35:19,595
"5:00, 5:00."
676
00:35:19,639 --> 00:35:21,597
So 5:00.
677
00:35:21,641 --> 00:35:25,166
We'd work six days a week,
and I was okay with that
678
00:35:25,210 --> 00:35:27,908
because I felt like
I was building something,
679
00:35:27,951 --> 00:35:31,651
and now I was really
a good socialist.
680
00:35:31,694 --> 00:35:34,741
[members singing]
♪ Long live
681
00:35:34,784 --> 00:35:40,225
♪ The socialist dream
682
00:35:40,268 --> 00:35:41,530
That's beautiful.
683
00:35:41,574 --> 00:35:42,531
[woman]
Thank you!
684
00:35:42,575 --> 00:35:44,403
[cheering and applause]
685
00:35:44,446 --> 00:35:46,187
[Jim Jones Jr.]
The getting up sweaty
686
00:35:46,231 --> 00:35:47,667
and this kind of stuff,
I hated that.
687
00:35:47,710 --> 00:35:50,017
Oh, I hated that.
I hated that.
688
00:35:50,060 --> 00:35:54,021
I hated walking out
of your cabin on a r--
689
00:35:54,064 --> 00:35:55,936
on-- in the rainy season,
690
00:35:55,979 --> 00:35:58,025
and your feet
are full of mud and...
691
00:35:58,068 --> 00:35:59,940
You know, I hated
all that kind of stuff.
692
00:36:01,985 --> 00:36:03,857
But you know something?
693
00:36:03,900 --> 00:36:07,469
When you're with 900 people
you care about...
694
00:36:09,776 --> 00:36:11,386
...it didn't seem that bad.
695
00:36:11,430 --> 00:36:14,259
[footsteps stomping,
hands clapping]
696
00:36:14,302 --> 00:36:16,870
[indistinct chatter]
697
00:36:16,913 --> 00:36:19,742
I remember the dances,
the youth dances.
698
00:36:21,744 --> 00:36:24,007
[cheering and applause]
699
00:36:24,051 --> 00:36:27,228
I remember some of the meetings
that my father did,
700
00:36:27,272 --> 00:36:30,927
and we talked about
building a new world, you know?
701
00:36:30,971 --> 00:36:33,582
Those were powerful to me.
702
00:36:33,626 --> 00:36:36,063
I felt like we were
Che Guevara,
703
00:36:36,106 --> 00:36:39,284
building a new world...
that's how I felt.
704
00:36:39,327 --> 00:36:42,635
[all chanting]
The people united
will never be defeated!
705
00:36:42,678 --> 00:36:46,029
The people united will
never be defeated!
706
00:36:46,073 --> 00:36:49,119
The people united
will never be defeated!
707
00:36:49,163 --> 00:36:50,817
The people united...
708
00:36:50,860 --> 00:36:53,472
♪♪
709
00:36:53,515 --> 00:36:55,735
[Wagner-Wilson]
Things were good for a while.
710
00:36:55,778 --> 00:36:57,302
[man]
Grandma Bates,
how do you like it here?
711
00:36:57,345 --> 00:36:59,260
I love it.
I love it.
712
00:36:59,304 --> 00:37:00,957
It's-- I love it
better than any place
713
00:37:01,001 --> 00:37:02,524
I've been in my life.
714
00:37:02,568 --> 00:37:04,700
All of a sudden,
things started shifting.
715
00:37:04,744 --> 00:37:06,267
I just love it.
716
00:37:06,311 --> 00:37:09,401
I hope everything
is gonna be all right for us.
717
00:37:13,927 --> 00:37:16,799
[dramatic music]
718
00:37:21,326 --> 00:37:24,242
[fire roaring]
719
00:37:24,285 --> 00:37:25,721
[Maaga]
Jonestown was ill-equipped
720
00:37:25,765 --> 00:37:27,506
to provide a life
721
00:37:27,549 --> 00:37:29,290
for all the people
that arrived.
722
00:37:29,334 --> 00:37:32,902
And Jim Jones is aware that
what's happening in Jonestown
723
00:37:32,946 --> 00:37:35,035
is not sustainable, either.
724
00:37:38,038 --> 00:37:41,389
Ultimately Jones
has about 1,000 people
725
00:37:41,433 --> 00:37:43,478
in a place built
for half that.
726
00:37:43,522 --> 00:37:45,306
[indistinct chatter]
727
00:37:45,350 --> 00:37:48,657
Almost instantly,
there's not enough food.
728
00:37:48,701 --> 00:37:50,703
[Jim Jones]
We're gonna conserve on food.
729
00:37:50,746 --> 00:37:52,966
Keep that up because
we'll need every dollar.
730
00:37:53,009 --> 00:37:55,055
'Cause this is the only
kind of place to be.
731
00:37:55,098 --> 00:37:56,491
Freedom.
732
00:37:56,535 --> 00:37:59,668
[Wagner-Wilson]
As more people began coming,
733
00:37:59,712 --> 00:38:01,627
even the children weren't
getting what they needed.
734
00:38:01,670 --> 00:38:04,369
And the senior citizens
definitely were not getting
735
00:38:04,412 --> 00:38:05,631
the food that they needed.
736
00:38:07,502 --> 00:38:10,200
We even sell bananas now because
we're trying to make money.
737
00:38:10,244 --> 00:38:12,028
We need money so badly
to take care
738
00:38:12,072 --> 00:38:13,421
of all of our family,
to save them.
739
00:38:15,597 --> 00:38:17,817
[Guinn]
Jones knows he's got money
that could take care of that
740
00:38:17,860 --> 00:38:20,254
for decades,
but he's not revealing that.
741
00:38:20,298 --> 00:38:23,213
So instead people are told,
"We've gotta do better
742
00:38:23,257 --> 00:38:25,825
or we're gonna starve
and be humiliated."
743
00:38:33,485 --> 00:38:36,226
[Wagner-Wilson]
You're physically adjusting
to the work,
744
00:38:36,270 --> 00:38:39,447
but you get used to it,
you get used to the work.
745
00:38:39,491 --> 00:38:40,927
What you don't get used to
746
00:38:40,970 --> 00:38:43,712
is the sirens
in the middle of the night.
747
00:38:43,756 --> 00:38:45,932
[siren wailing]
748
00:38:45,975 --> 00:38:48,413
Or Jim's drugged,
sometimes incoherent voice
749
00:38:48,456 --> 00:38:50,153
over the loudspeaker
in the middle of the night.
750
00:39:03,863 --> 00:39:06,518
[Gosney]
In Jonestown, there were
loudspeakers everywhere.
751
00:39:06,561 --> 00:39:08,607
They went on 24/7.
752
00:39:08,650 --> 00:39:10,565
The voice of Jim Jones.
753
00:39:15,265 --> 00:39:17,485
[Maaga]
Jim Jones did a terrible job
754
00:39:17,529 --> 00:39:19,008
of maintaining his leadership
755
00:39:19,052 --> 00:39:20,836
within the community
of Jonestown.
756
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:22,882
He would stumble,
757
00:39:22,925 --> 00:39:25,885
he would urinate off
the side of the walkways.
758
00:39:27,452 --> 00:39:29,497
[Gosney]
It was apparent that his...
759
00:39:29,541 --> 00:39:31,934
drug use had increased.
760
00:39:31,978 --> 00:39:33,893
He was slurring
his speech.
761
00:39:47,515 --> 00:39:51,737
Remember, his number one
source of well-being,
762
00:39:51,780 --> 00:39:53,391
if you could even call it that,
763
00:39:53,434 --> 00:39:55,958
was adulation.
764
00:39:56,002 --> 00:40:00,789
Or feeling like he was adored
by the people around him.
765
00:40:00,833 --> 00:40:03,705
And now his source was finite.
766
00:40:03,749 --> 00:40:07,274
It was the same people
every day, same thing.
767
00:40:07,317 --> 00:40:10,799
So, what he tried to do
was just escalate things.
768
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:26,902
[Wagner-Wilson]
So I'm looking at all this,
769
00:40:26,946 --> 00:40:28,643
I'm seeing this,
770
00:40:28,687 --> 00:40:31,951
and I'm starting
to really acknowledge
771
00:40:31,994 --> 00:40:35,041
what I'm seeing
as not my imagination
772
00:40:35,084 --> 00:40:37,957
or not my ability to be
a good socialist,
773
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:41,047
but the fact that there is
something seriously wrong here.
774
00:40:41,090 --> 00:40:44,877
[dramatic music]
775
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:47,053
[Stephan Jones]
I think Dad was very much
aware of the fact
776
00:40:47,096 --> 00:40:49,708
that our town could not last.
777
00:40:49,751 --> 00:40:51,449
What we were doing
was not sustainable.
778
00:40:53,233 --> 00:40:55,931
[Maaga]
As Jim Jones realized
779
00:40:55,975 --> 00:40:57,324
what was happening
at Jonestown
780
00:40:57,367 --> 00:41:00,153
was a kind of failed experiment,
781
00:41:00,196 --> 00:41:02,938
he and his leadership
began to ask themselves,
782
00:41:02,982 --> 00:41:08,204
"How can we still succeed
in terms of history?"
783
00:41:08,248 --> 00:41:11,947
And so this,
"We're an egalitarian community
784
00:41:11,991 --> 00:41:13,993
"that's gonna show the world
how we can live
785
00:41:14,036 --> 00:41:16,604
as a utopian gathering
of people,"
786
00:41:16,648 --> 00:41:19,738
became instead,
"How do we show the world
787
00:41:19,781 --> 00:41:23,306
"what a truly committed group
of people would do
788
00:41:23,350 --> 00:41:25,091
"if they are threatened with
789
00:41:25,134 --> 00:41:27,180
the disintegration
of their community?"
790
00:41:27,223 --> 00:41:28,747
[cheering and applause]
791
00:41:28,790 --> 00:41:30,966
[Gosney]
The people that went
to Jonestown
792
00:41:31,010 --> 00:41:32,359
wanted to believe in something.
793
00:41:39,409 --> 00:41:42,500
And they wanted to make
a better world.
794
00:41:42,543 --> 00:41:45,633
[Wagner-Wilson]
I never saw us dying
from within.
795
00:41:45,677 --> 00:41:49,332
I never, ever
saw it... coming.
796
00:41:49,376 --> 00:41:51,247
[dramatic note, static]
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