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Was it more than one shooter? 13 00:00:56,099 --> 00:00:57,361 And so we're in the temple, 14 00:00:57,405 --> 00:00:59,450 and people are just in a panic 15 00:00:59,494 --> 00:01:01,452 that we might lose Father. 16 00:01:04,716 --> 00:01:08,720 A mourn quiet comes over the whole community. 17 00:01:10,157 --> 00:01:12,637 [Stephan Jones] I was really afraid. 18 00:01:12,681 --> 00:01:14,900 The idea of outside threat, 19 00:01:14,944 --> 00:01:16,902 the idea of them and us, 20 00:01:16,946 --> 00:01:18,513 that if you weren't with us, you were against us. 21 00:01:18,556 --> 00:01:21,516 That was the message we heard constantly. 22 00:01:21,559 --> 00:01:23,474 [doors open] 23 00:01:24,780 --> 00:01:27,609 [Wagner-Wilson] The doors opened, 24 00:01:27,652 --> 00:01:29,263 and one of Jim's security 25 00:01:29,306 --> 00:01:32,135 was carrying this shirt with blood. 26 00:01:32,179 --> 00:01:35,182 [Jim Jones Jr.] There's red stains on it, 27 00:01:35,225 --> 00:01:37,749 and there's two holes 28 00:01:37,793 --> 00:01:38,707 that you can put a finger through. 29 00:01:41,405 --> 00:01:42,406 [Wagner-Wilson] And Jim's behind him, 30 00:01:42,450 --> 00:01:44,756 but there's not a mark on him. 31 00:01:49,544 --> 00:01:51,241 He's healed himself. 32 00:01:51,285 --> 00:01:53,939 [Jim Jones, recording] You can put me into the noose, 33 00:01:53,983 --> 00:01:55,245 you can hang my body, 34 00:01:55,289 --> 00:01:56,551 but I'll spring up again. 35 00:01:56,594 --> 00:01:57,943 You cannot stamp me out! 36 00:01:57,987 --> 00:01:59,119 I'm here to stay! 37 00:01:59,162 --> 00:02:01,947 [people cheering] 38 00:02:01,991 --> 00:02:04,950 People are in a frenzy. 39 00:02:04,994 --> 00:02:07,997 I mean, crying, 40 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:10,695 joyful, ecstatic. 41 00:02:10,739 --> 00:02:14,525 It was-- the energy was just, it was just electric. 42 00:02:14,569 --> 00:02:17,615 And we're thinking, oh, my God, Father healed himself. 43 00:02:17,659 --> 00:02:19,008 [Jim Jones] You've never seen anyone 44 00:02:19,051 --> 00:02:20,792 shot down as I was, before your eyes, 45 00:02:20,836 --> 00:02:22,533 with blood spurting from the body 46 00:02:22,577 --> 00:02:24,056 and healed himself? 47 00:02:24,100 --> 00:02:26,146 Yet I, a socialist worker, did that. 48 00:02:26,189 --> 00:02:28,148 [cheering] 49 00:02:28,191 --> 00:02:31,194 How many believe that I am the savior? 50 00:02:31,238 --> 00:02:32,543 [cheering] 51 00:02:32,587 --> 00:02:35,459 The only savior? 52 00:02:35,503 --> 00:02:37,940 [cheers and applause] 53 00:02:40,029 --> 00:02:41,944 [Wagner-Wilson] They were convinced 54 00:02:41,987 --> 00:02:44,642 that this man is God. 55 00:02:46,209 --> 00:02:48,820 [Jim Jones Jr.] It brought people together. 56 00:02:48,864 --> 00:02:52,650 He was going to be the force, 57 00:02:52,694 --> 00:02:54,261 the person, 58 00:02:54,304 --> 00:02:56,219 who was gonna lead us to the promised land. 59 00:02:56,263 --> 00:02:58,700 [dramatic music] 60 00:03:03,357 --> 00:03:04,706 It wasn't until later 61 00:03:04,749 --> 00:03:07,230 that I knew that that was fake. 62 00:03:10,233 --> 00:03:13,584 [Stephan] Later on, I learned from my mother 63 00:03:13,628 --> 00:03:15,804 how that had gone down and that 64 00:03:15,847 --> 00:03:17,197 blanks were fired, 65 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:19,634 uh, to fake this, this attack. 66 00:03:19,677 --> 00:03:22,463 I don't know how it was faked, 67 00:03:22,506 --> 00:03:27,555 but my father was always looking for ways to create drama 68 00:03:27,598 --> 00:03:29,905 so that he could be the savior 69 00:03:29,948 --> 00:03:32,821 and the champion within all that drama. 70 00:03:34,388 --> 00:03:35,867 [Wagner-Wilson] Everything he did was a test 71 00:03:35,911 --> 00:03:38,305 to see how many people were gonna stay... 72 00:03:38,348 --> 00:03:40,698 and how many people were gonna leave. 73 00:03:40,742 --> 00:03:42,613 So every moment he's pushing the envelope a little bit, 74 00:03:42,657 --> 00:03:44,224 you know, a little bit further, right? 75 00:03:45,703 --> 00:03:47,618 [Jim Jones Jr.] People were true believers. 76 00:03:49,707 --> 00:03:51,187 And you wanted to be 77 00:03:51,231 --> 00:03:54,059 because you were going to change the world. 78 00:03:54,103 --> 00:03:56,584 [Gosney] I believed in him 100%, 79 00:03:56,627 --> 00:03:59,195 and I believed in who he said he was. 80 00:03:59,239 --> 00:04:02,285 I would follow Jim Jones anywhere, and I did. 81 00:04:02,329 --> 00:04:05,984 [dramatic music] 82 00:04:12,817 --> 00:04:14,428 [Gosney] When we moved to San Francisco, 83 00:04:14,471 --> 00:04:16,821 things went to the next level. 84 00:04:18,780 --> 00:04:20,477 [Jeff Guinn] Peoples Temple is getting more people, 85 00:04:20,521 --> 00:04:23,654 they're getting more money, the fame is spreading. 86 00:04:23,698 --> 00:04:26,309 But you can only go so far in Redwood Valley. 87 00:04:26,353 --> 00:04:29,573 [Jim Jones] In San Francisco, we have more political strength, 88 00:04:29,617 --> 00:04:31,183 and that's important. 89 00:04:31,227 --> 00:04:32,924 You've got the backing of some people. 90 00:04:32,968 --> 00:04:34,796 If we build outside of the city, 91 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:36,972 we don't have that backing. 92 00:04:37,015 --> 00:04:38,452 [Guinn] In San Francisco, 93 00:04:38,495 --> 00:04:42,238 he is going to gradually insinuate himself 94 00:04:42,282 --> 00:04:45,328 until he becomes a power broker. 95 00:04:48,462 --> 00:04:49,854 ♪♪ 96 00:04:49,898 --> 00:04:51,073 [cars honking] 97 00:04:57,297 --> 00:04:58,820 [Kilduff] I first heard of Peoples Temple 98 00:04:58,863 --> 00:05:02,345 when I was a part-time writer for the Chronicle 99 00:05:02,389 --> 00:05:05,043 back in the early '70s. 100 00:05:05,087 --> 00:05:06,915 [flash bulb popping] 101 00:05:06,958 --> 00:05:09,309 They would turn out big crowds at rallies. 102 00:05:09,352 --> 00:05:10,353 [indistinct chanting] 103 00:05:10,397 --> 00:05:12,181 The city was full of groups 104 00:05:12,224 --> 00:05:16,185 that had shown they weren't happy with conventional life. 105 00:05:16,228 --> 00:05:18,622 [indistinct chanting] 106 00:05:21,930 --> 00:05:24,411 Jones very much played into that. 107 00:05:24,454 --> 00:05:27,196 He was a new guy with a new message with a new act. 108 00:05:28,893 --> 00:05:31,156 [Jim Jones] This country will not be safe 109 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:33,463 until we do something to share the wealth 110 00:05:33,507 --> 00:05:36,553 and share it completely and fairly 111 00:05:36,597 --> 00:05:40,340 and democratically and peacefully. [cheering] 112 00:05:40,383 --> 00:05:44,082 [Kilduff] He donated money, he participated in causes, 113 00:05:44,126 --> 00:05:47,216 he cultivated friends in a very clever way. 114 00:05:47,259 --> 00:05:51,655 He rose fast as a political power. 115 00:05:51,699 --> 00:05:54,310 [Jim Jones Jr.] Jim Jones was known as a person, 116 00:05:54,354 --> 00:05:56,704 if you had a political activism going on, 117 00:05:56,747 --> 00:05:59,141 call Jim Jones, get him involved. 118 00:05:59,184 --> 00:06:00,490 And Jim Jones had to see 119 00:06:00,534 --> 00:06:03,928 how he could manipulate it for himself. 120 00:06:03,972 --> 00:06:05,495 Reverend Jones, how do you account for 121 00:06:05,539 --> 00:06:08,759 such an avid following as you seem to have? 122 00:06:08,803 --> 00:06:12,981 I'm principled. I'm dedicated to my people. 123 00:06:13,024 --> 00:06:14,765 He loved the attention. 124 00:06:14,809 --> 00:06:16,419 You know, he loved to be mingling with 125 00:06:16,463 --> 00:06:17,594 the crème de la crme, 126 00:06:17,638 --> 00:06:19,335 the politicians in San Francisco. 127 00:06:19,379 --> 00:06:20,945 He was thriving in that. 128 00:06:29,084 --> 00:06:33,305 [Carter] Rosalynn Carter was in the city to campaign for her husband, 129 00:06:33,349 --> 00:06:35,438 and where she was at, there weren't that many people 130 00:06:35,482 --> 00:06:38,354 that showed up, and so somebody called up Jones and said, 131 00:06:38,398 --> 00:06:40,008 "Can you get some people here?" 132 00:06:41,357 --> 00:06:43,403 And so he filled up three buses 133 00:06:43,446 --> 00:06:44,839 and drove everybody down there, 134 00:06:44,882 --> 00:06:47,189 and all of a sudden there was a big crowd, 135 00:06:47,232 --> 00:06:49,017 and on the news it was "Look at the warm reception 136 00:06:49,060 --> 00:06:50,497 "that Rosalynn Carter is receiving 137 00:06:50,540 --> 00:06:52,760 here in San Francisco." 138 00:06:52,803 --> 00:06:56,938 [Jim Jones Jr.] And Rosalynn Carter met with him privately 139 00:06:56,981 --> 00:06:59,157 to talk about his political involvement 140 00:06:59,201 --> 00:07:02,160 in Jimmy Carter's election. 141 00:07:02,204 --> 00:07:05,642 So much to where he got an invite to the inauguration. 142 00:07:08,515 --> 00:07:10,342 [eerie music] 143 00:07:10,386 --> 00:07:12,432 [Guinn] The legend of Jim Jones 144 00:07:12,475 --> 00:07:15,043 and Peoples Temple is out there. 145 00:07:15,086 --> 00:07:17,437 And money comes pouring in. 146 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:19,003 I'm very much interested in... 147 00:07:19,047 --> 00:07:22,790 [Guinn] He's becoming more and more popular. 148 00:07:22,833 --> 00:07:25,270 The newspapers cover him like a celebrity. 149 00:07:25,314 --> 00:07:26,489 [flash bulb popping] 150 00:07:26,533 --> 00:07:27,882 In San Francisco, 151 00:07:27,925 --> 00:07:29,274 you've got Willie Mays, 152 00:07:29,318 --> 00:07:30,841 you got the jazz scene, 153 00:07:30,885 --> 00:07:33,235 and now, all of a sudden, you've got Jim Jones. 154 00:07:36,499 --> 00:07:38,501 [Stephan] My father was always grandiose, 155 00:07:38,545 --> 00:07:40,155 far back as I can remember, 156 00:07:40,198 --> 00:07:44,115 and that grandiosity only grew 157 00:07:44,159 --> 00:07:45,073 as the temple grew. 158 00:07:46,944 --> 00:07:50,252 He was always managing his image of himself. 159 00:07:52,341 --> 00:07:54,517 Because he was always at war with that voice inside of him, 160 00:07:54,561 --> 00:07:56,258 I believe, that was telling him 161 00:07:56,301 --> 00:07:59,348 he wasn't enough, he was a fraud. 162 00:07:59,391 --> 00:08:01,306 And I think that's where drugs 163 00:08:01,350 --> 00:08:05,223 really came in much more heavily. 164 00:08:05,267 --> 00:08:08,879 [eerie music] 165 00:08:08,923 --> 00:08:12,666 [Guinn] Jim Jones had always been mistrustful of most people, 166 00:08:12,709 --> 00:08:15,886 but the rampant drug use increased his paranoia. 167 00:08:18,367 --> 00:08:19,673 As the Temple grew, 168 00:08:19,716 --> 00:08:22,502 Jones felt like he's losing touch 169 00:08:22,545 --> 00:08:24,591 with rank and file members. 170 00:08:24,634 --> 00:08:28,899 He feels as though some of his people may betray him. 171 00:08:28,943 --> 00:08:31,032 So he creates the Planning Commission. 172 00:08:34,470 --> 00:08:36,167 [Dr. Mary McCormick Maaga] The Planning Commission was made up 173 00:08:36,211 --> 00:08:39,083 of the leadership of People's Temple. 174 00:08:39,127 --> 00:08:41,346 ♪♪ 175 00:08:41,390 --> 00:08:47,396 And they were the ones who were closest to Jim Jones personally. 176 00:08:47,439 --> 00:08:50,268 They were the ones that were making decisions about 177 00:08:50,312 --> 00:08:53,924 the day to day operations of People's Temple. 178 00:08:53,968 --> 00:08:56,057 [Guinn] At their meetings, it gives Jones a chance 179 00:08:56,100 --> 00:08:59,408 to sit there and listen to what people are talking about 180 00:08:59,451 --> 00:09:03,630 and get some sense of the way "his people" are feeling. 181 00:09:03,673 --> 00:09:06,110 [dramatic music] 182 00:09:12,987 --> 00:09:16,686 [Johnston Kohl] I was on the Planning Commission for five years. 183 00:09:16,730 --> 00:09:19,428 During a Planning Commission meeting, 184 00:09:19,471 --> 00:09:20,864 I'd pass around a paper, 185 00:09:20,908 --> 00:09:22,997 and people who had information 186 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:25,173 about how somebody was doing 187 00:09:25,216 --> 00:09:27,001 would write down notes. 188 00:09:28,524 --> 00:09:30,395 I'd type it up and then give it to Jim 189 00:09:30,439 --> 00:09:32,528 and the secretaries. 190 00:09:32,572 --> 00:09:36,619 It became more of a spying on you thing. 191 00:09:36,663 --> 00:09:38,273 [eerie music] 192 00:09:38,316 --> 00:09:40,928 [Gosney] The Planning Commission at the People's Temple, 193 00:09:40,971 --> 00:09:42,582 as far as I was concerned, 194 00:09:42,625 --> 00:09:45,106 was an enforcement agency. 195 00:09:46,716 --> 00:09:50,285 If you got called to the Planning Commission, 196 00:09:50,328 --> 00:09:54,506 you were in some serious, serious trouble. 197 00:09:54,550 --> 00:09:57,597 [Wagner-Wilson] There was a consequence to any infraction, 198 00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:00,991 whether it be, you fell asleep during a meeting, 199 00:10:01,035 --> 00:10:03,777 someone reported that you were having affair with someone else. 200 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:08,477 [Gosney] I was called to the Planning Commission. 201 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:10,784 I had just gotten my ears pierced. 202 00:10:10,827 --> 00:10:13,438 Jim Jones said, "Well, what did you do that for? 203 00:10:13,482 --> 00:10:15,615 How bourgeois is that?" 204 00:10:15,658 --> 00:10:18,530 And I, I made some remark, and they all just jumped me. 205 00:10:18,574 --> 00:10:20,707 [angry shouting] 206 00:10:20,750 --> 00:10:23,535 All these people starting pounding me and stuff 207 00:10:23,579 --> 00:10:25,407 and, I think, ripped the earrings out. 208 00:10:26,843 --> 00:10:29,541 I was not considered by Jim Jones 209 00:10:29,585 --> 00:10:31,413 as one of the faithful. 210 00:10:33,067 --> 00:10:34,416 I got in trouble a lot. 211 00:10:35,983 --> 00:10:38,420 [overlapping chatter] 212 00:11:07,928 --> 00:11:09,756 [sighing] It's so sickening. 213 00:11:09,799 --> 00:11:11,148 I can't hardly talk about it. 214 00:11:16,545 --> 00:11:18,373 And then it gets to... 215 00:11:18,416 --> 00:11:21,332 the boxing matches. 216 00:11:23,813 --> 00:11:24,901 You're gonna have an opponent 217 00:11:24,945 --> 00:11:26,424 that would beat on someone 218 00:11:26,468 --> 00:11:29,601 that was not even a physical match to them. 219 00:11:29,645 --> 00:11:30,820 It would get bloody. 220 00:11:30,864 --> 00:11:32,517 They're not supposed to even fight back, 221 00:11:32,561 --> 00:11:34,519 you're just supposed to get beat. 222 00:11:34,563 --> 00:11:36,739 And Jim, he would laugh over this type of thing, 223 00:11:36,783 --> 00:11:39,089 that sinister laugh he had. 224 00:11:39,133 --> 00:11:41,570 [Jim Jones laughing] 225 00:11:46,618 --> 00:11:47,837 [laughter continues] 226 00:11:47,881 --> 00:11:49,578 Jim Jones had a sadistic quality, 227 00:11:49,621 --> 00:11:50,884 he absolutely did. 228 00:11:50,927 --> 00:11:52,537 He enjoyed that type of thing. 229 00:11:52,581 --> 00:11:54,670 It was like a gladiator sport to him, I think. 230 00:11:56,759 --> 00:11:58,848 [Grace Stoen] They set up the counseling department 231 00:11:58,892 --> 00:12:02,373 and eventually I got made head counselor. 232 00:12:02,417 --> 00:12:04,724 And I'll never forget, one night in a meeting, 233 00:12:04,767 --> 00:12:05,855 I saw somebody 234 00:12:05,899 --> 00:12:08,553 very severely beaten. 235 00:12:08,597 --> 00:12:10,381 And I saw them the next day 236 00:12:10,425 --> 00:12:12,209 professing their love for Jim Jones 237 00:12:12,253 --> 00:12:13,950 as they were walking in the church. 238 00:12:16,387 --> 00:12:18,781 And I looked at them and I said to myself, 239 00:12:18,825 --> 00:12:21,088 "I don't ever want to be broken 240 00:12:21,131 --> 00:12:24,134 and in this situation as a broken person." 241 00:12:24,178 --> 00:12:25,527 I'd rather be dead 242 00:12:25,570 --> 00:12:27,442 than to live the rest of my life 243 00:12:27,485 --> 00:12:29,096 in this situation. 244 00:12:30,619 --> 00:12:33,361 I knew I had to leave. 245 00:12:38,148 --> 00:12:40,585 ♪♪ 246 00:12:40,629 --> 00:12:42,500 [Jeff Guinn] From the time he organized 247 00:12:42,544 --> 00:12:46,896 his first storefront church in Indianapolis, 248 00:12:46,940 --> 00:12:49,377 Jones took it personally any time anybody left. 249 00:12:49,420 --> 00:12:50,813 He couldn't stand it. 250 00:12:53,468 --> 00:12:57,298 [Maaga] Because loyalty was the greatest value within Peoples Temple, 251 00:12:57,341 --> 00:12:59,517 defection was the greatest sin. 252 00:12:59,561 --> 00:13:02,433 There was always the fear that anybody that left 253 00:13:02,477 --> 00:13:04,305 would be utilized by the enemies 254 00:13:04,348 --> 00:13:06,350 to help tear down Peoples Temple. 255 00:13:22,236 --> 00:13:24,107 [Guinn] He preaches that once you're in with us, 256 00:13:24,151 --> 00:13:27,589 you're part of us forever. 257 00:13:27,632 --> 00:13:29,852 [cheering] 258 00:13:29,896 --> 00:13:32,986 He has members sign statements 259 00:13:33,029 --> 00:13:36,163 claiming that they had done all sorts of terrible things, 260 00:13:36,206 --> 00:13:38,556 from committing cold-blooded murder 261 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:39,862 to planning the assassination 262 00:13:39,906 --> 00:13:41,124 of the President of the United States. 263 00:13:43,692 --> 00:13:45,520 [Stoen] I signed blank pieces of paper, 264 00:13:45,563 --> 00:13:48,436 I signed pieces of paper that I wanted to kill the President. 265 00:13:48,479 --> 00:13:51,178 I signed pieces of paper that I molested my child. 266 00:13:53,963 --> 00:13:57,706 Try being in a room with 50 people, 267 00:13:57,749 --> 00:14:00,491 and you're asked to sign a blank piece of paper 268 00:14:00,535 --> 00:14:02,580 and say, "No, I'm not gonna sign it." 269 00:14:02,624 --> 00:14:04,191 If you didn't sign it, they're like, 270 00:14:04,234 --> 00:14:05,932 "Oh, are you thinking about leaving? 271 00:14:05,975 --> 00:14:07,716 Should we be concerned about you?" 272 00:14:07,759 --> 00:14:11,067 [Guinn] He's got something on everyone. 273 00:14:11,111 --> 00:14:13,678 All of it manufactured. 274 00:14:13,722 --> 00:14:15,724 But making it clear, "If you leave this church, 275 00:14:15,767 --> 00:14:16,899 we'll make it hard on you." 276 00:14:19,336 --> 00:14:20,337 I was done. 277 00:14:20,381 --> 00:14:21,556 Spent. 278 00:14:21,599 --> 00:14:23,688 [flash bulb popping] 279 00:14:23,732 --> 00:14:27,214 [Kilduff] Grace Stoen was Peoples Temple royalty. 280 00:14:27,257 --> 00:14:28,824 She had a child while in the church. 281 00:14:28,868 --> 00:14:31,174 Jones claimed the child as his. 282 00:14:31,218 --> 00:14:33,220 She knew a lot about church activities, 283 00:14:33,263 --> 00:14:36,745 she was very informed on how the church operated. 284 00:14:36,788 --> 00:14:39,052 But then the personal stuff, the beatings, 285 00:14:39,095 --> 00:14:42,142 were just too heavy a memory and an experience 286 00:14:42,185 --> 00:14:43,621 for her to ignore. 287 00:14:43,665 --> 00:14:45,493 [faint radio chatter] 288 00:14:45,536 --> 00:14:48,757 [Stoen] I'll never forget, we were on a cross-country trip 289 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:52,282 and one of the members came to me and he said, 290 00:14:52,326 --> 00:14:55,155 "Grace, please stop acting out, stop acting up." 291 00:14:55,198 --> 00:14:57,026 He said, "They're talking about you. 292 00:14:57,070 --> 00:14:58,332 "They're gonna get you when we get back 293 00:14:58,375 --> 00:15:01,291 and they're gonna beat you up." 294 00:15:01,335 --> 00:15:02,553 And I said to myself, 295 00:15:02,597 --> 00:15:04,686 "I'll never allow myself to get beaten." 296 00:15:07,341 --> 00:15:09,647 I knew I had to leave. 297 00:15:09,691 --> 00:15:13,260 [tense music] 298 00:15:13,303 --> 00:15:17,394 And, uh, I just gathered some stuff. 299 00:15:17,438 --> 00:15:19,483 I didn't tell anyone I was leaving. 300 00:15:21,268 --> 00:15:22,356 I snuck out. 301 00:15:29,972 --> 00:15:35,499 And I ended up escaping with one of the bus drivers. 302 00:15:35,543 --> 00:15:37,980 We were told to leave the state 303 00:15:38,024 --> 00:15:39,851 because we were going to be hunted down and killed 304 00:15:39,895 --> 00:15:43,203 if we ever left. 305 00:15:43,246 --> 00:15:44,900 [Guinn] She left the temple 306 00:15:44,944 --> 00:15:48,512 but leaving her son behind. 307 00:15:48,556 --> 00:15:51,080 She knew that she couldn't probably pry him loose 308 00:15:51,124 --> 00:15:52,734 and get away like that. 309 00:15:52,777 --> 00:15:58,174 [sorrowful music] 310 00:15:58,218 --> 00:16:00,350 It was hard. 311 00:16:00,394 --> 00:16:02,352 It was, it was very har-- 312 00:16:02,396 --> 00:16:04,789 very devastating for me. 313 00:16:04,833 --> 00:16:07,357 ♪♪ 314 00:16:07,401 --> 00:16:10,273 And we left on July 3rd 315 00:16:10,317 --> 00:16:12,493 and I'll never forget, we woke up 316 00:16:12,536 --> 00:16:14,799 to what we thought were gunshots. 317 00:16:14,843 --> 00:16:16,627 [loud banging] 318 00:16:16,671 --> 00:16:18,020 We sat up and we went, 319 00:16:18,064 --> 00:16:19,500 "Oh, my God, they've already found us." 320 00:16:21,415 --> 00:16:23,199 Only to realize it was firecrackers. 321 00:16:23,243 --> 00:16:26,898 It was 4th of July.[bottle rocket whistling] 322 00:16:55,057 --> 00:16:57,494 [Guinn] Every time someone would leave, 323 00:16:57,538 --> 00:17:01,455 Jones would absolutely lose it. 324 00:17:01,498 --> 00:17:06,764 Jones was so paranoid about the loyalty of his people, 325 00:17:06,808 --> 00:17:08,679 he decided he would give the Planning Commission members 326 00:17:08,723 --> 00:17:10,420 the ultimate test. 327 00:17:10,464 --> 00:17:12,814 ♪♪ 328 00:17:16,948 --> 00:17:19,038 We're having a Planning Commission meeting in San Francisco. 329 00:17:21,605 --> 00:17:22,867 Meeting starts, 330 00:17:22,911 --> 00:17:25,087 and the ranch 331 00:17:25,131 --> 00:17:26,480 had a small vineyard 332 00:17:26,523 --> 00:17:27,742 that was part of the property that was there. 333 00:17:29,918 --> 00:17:31,920 So on this night, he said, 334 00:17:31,963 --> 00:17:34,575 "We have some wine from the ranch. 335 00:17:34,618 --> 00:17:36,620 Everybody's invited to have some." 336 00:17:39,580 --> 00:17:41,756 There were Styrofoam cups, 337 00:17:41,799 --> 00:17:43,714 like, half filled with wine. 338 00:17:46,848 --> 00:17:47,762 Drank the wine. 339 00:17:50,808 --> 00:17:52,462 And, like, five minutes later, Jones says, 340 00:17:52,506 --> 00:17:53,855 "You've all just been poisoned." 341 00:17:53,898 --> 00:17:55,596 [eerie music] 342 00:17:57,467 --> 00:18:01,080 So immediately, inside, my adrenaline starts running. 343 00:18:01,123 --> 00:18:02,472 [muffled commotion] 344 00:18:02,516 --> 00:18:04,213 People were yelling and screaming. 345 00:18:08,130 --> 00:18:10,132 Jones says, you have an hour to live. 346 00:18:10,176 --> 00:18:12,656 ♪♪ 347 00:18:26,583 --> 00:18:29,238 Jim Jones says, "You've all just been poisoned." 348 00:18:29,282 --> 00:18:32,023 [eerie music] 349 00:18:32,067 --> 00:18:35,418 "You have an hour to live." 350 00:18:35,462 --> 00:18:36,898 [Jeff Guinn] Jones says, "No one leaves." 351 00:18:38,900 --> 00:18:42,164 And the minutes go by. 352 00:18:42,208 --> 00:18:44,035 People start saying, "I can feel myself dying, 353 00:18:44,079 --> 00:18:45,341 I'm feeling faint." 354 00:18:50,564 --> 00:18:52,566 So after about 45 minutes, Jones says, 355 00:18:52,609 --> 00:18:54,220 "Okay, well, you haven't all been poisoned." 356 00:18:56,874 --> 00:19:00,617 "This was a test to see how you handle death." 357 00:19:00,661 --> 00:19:02,880 ♪♪ 358 00:19:02,924 --> 00:19:05,405 So I thought, okay, 359 00:19:05,448 --> 00:19:08,103 he's teaching people what it's like to face your own mortality, 360 00:19:08,147 --> 00:19:09,278 your own death. 361 00:19:09,322 --> 00:19:10,279 That's how I rationalized that. 362 00:19:10,323 --> 00:19:11,802 And I want to make it clear, 363 00:19:11,846 --> 00:19:13,326 that it was a rationalization on my part. 364 00:19:15,241 --> 00:19:17,417 [Guinn] Not one of them grabbed Jones by the throat, 365 00:19:17,460 --> 00:19:18,853 you know, "You son of a bitch." 366 00:19:18,896 --> 00:19:21,725 There was none of that reaction. 367 00:19:21,769 --> 00:19:24,337 He had people that much cowed, 368 00:19:24,380 --> 00:19:27,427 that much under his control. 369 00:19:27,470 --> 00:19:30,604 [Stephan] He really enjoyed seeing what people did. 370 00:19:30,647 --> 00:19:32,301 And it was a test of loyalty, right? 371 00:19:32,345 --> 00:19:35,783 "Are these people really willing to just lay down 372 00:19:35,826 --> 00:19:39,569 now that I've told them I've killed them?" 373 00:19:39,613 --> 00:19:41,528 He was very sadistic at that point. 374 00:19:44,052 --> 00:19:45,880 [Carter] Looking back on it, 375 00:19:45,923 --> 00:19:48,187 I think the appropriate response would've been, 376 00:19:48,230 --> 00:19:50,580 "This is a crazy M.F., 377 00:19:50,624 --> 00:19:52,756 and it's time for me to get out of Dodge." 378 00:19:55,629 --> 00:19:59,589 [Maaga] It's clear that as early as 1974, 379 00:19:59,633 --> 00:20:01,417 that Jim Jones realizes that 380 00:20:01,461 --> 00:20:04,028 some of the practices of Peoples Temple 381 00:20:04,072 --> 00:20:05,204 cannot be sustained. 382 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:08,816 The punitive practices with people. 383 00:20:11,558 --> 00:20:12,950 The paranoid practices. 384 00:20:14,300 --> 00:20:16,040 All of these things eventually mean 385 00:20:16,084 --> 00:20:18,042 that law enforcement is gonna come in 386 00:20:18,086 --> 00:20:20,044 and break up Peoples Temple. 387 00:20:21,655 --> 00:20:24,266 He needed a place that they could escape to 388 00:20:24,310 --> 00:20:26,312 in case criticism became too great, 389 00:20:26,355 --> 00:20:28,052 and in case Jim Jones himself 390 00:20:28,096 --> 00:20:29,619 was in danger of being arrested. 391 00:20:31,665 --> 00:20:35,321 ♪♪ 392 00:20:41,501 --> 00:20:44,199 [Guinn] He loves Guyana 'cause it's socialist, 393 00:20:44,243 --> 00:20:46,854 it's mostly minority, 394 00:20:46,897 --> 00:20:48,986 because it's the only country in South America 395 00:20:49,030 --> 00:20:50,553 where the national language is English. 396 00:20:52,468 --> 00:20:57,691 He ultimately works out a deal with the Guyanese government 397 00:20:57,734 --> 00:21:00,781 and sends a crew out to start building Jonestown. 398 00:21:00,824 --> 00:21:03,827 ♪♪ 399 00:21:03,871 --> 00:21:05,612 [Carter] So it started in '74. 400 00:21:05,655 --> 00:21:07,440 I think there was, like, seven guys that went down there. 401 00:21:07,483 --> 00:21:09,833 All of them had some heavy equipment experience. 402 00:21:12,053 --> 00:21:14,490 [Stephan] We cleared a lot of land 403 00:21:14,534 --> 00:21:17,319 and we built a lot of structures 404 00:21:17,363 --> 00:21:19,016 in very short time. 405 00:21:19,060 --> 00:21:20,757 It was hard, hard work. 406 00:21:30,811 --> 00:21:33,204 [Guinn] They are trying to build a village 407 00:21:33,248 --> 00:21:36,425 that would be able to hold about 500 people, 408 00:21:36,469 --> 00:21:37,905 to live there, to work there, 409 00:21:37,948 --> 00:21:39,602 to feed them from the crops, and so forth. 410 00:21:48,089 --> 00:21:51,310 ♪♪ 411 00:21:51,353 --> 00:21:54,095 It's the hottest part of the entire year 412 00:21:54,138 --> 00:21:56,967 and, uh, they're doing real well. 413 00:21:57,011 --> 00:21:59,666 When I first heard about Jonestown was 1974. 414 00:21:59,709 --> 00:22:01,972 Jim Jones had just come back from Guyana 415 00:22:02,016 --> 00:22:06,499 and was giving a talk about Jonestown, 416 00:22:06,542 --> 00:22:09,110 and it's going to be an agricultural community. 417 00:22:09,153 --> 00:22:10,241 ♪♪ 418 00:22:14,376 --> 00:22:15,725 [Jim Jones] Back over here is the area 419 00:22:15,769 --> 00:22:18,337 we're clearing for more planting. 420 00:22:18,380 --> 00:22:20,730 Potatoes and carrots and eddoes 421 00:22:20,774 --> 00:22:24,038 and, uh, papaya. 422 00:22:24,081 --> 00:22:26,736 [Wagner-Wilson] We could grow our own food 423 00:22:26,780 --> 00:22:28,477 and there would be a community, 424 00:22:28,521 --> 00:22:31,872 and there wouldn't be any violence or racism. 425 00:22:31,915 --> 00:22:36,485 And it was going to be "the Promised Land." 426 00:22:36,529 --> 00:22:38,879 Darrin, how do you like it here in the Promised Land? 427 00:22:42,143 --> 00:22:45,102 My name is Anthony Simon, I'm here in the Promised Land. 428 00:22:45,146 --> 00:22:46,626 My name is Don Swonie, 429 00:22:46,669 --> 00:22:49,150 and, um, I'm grateful to be down here. 430 00:22:49,193 --> 00:22:51,108 I'm working on our fishing trawler 431 00:22:51,152 --> 00:22:53,850 and I enjoy going down the rivers and meeting new people. 432 00:22:53,894 --> 00:22:57,637 It is more freer down here and it's more beautiful. 433 00:22:57,680 --> 00:22:59,029 [inspiring music] 434 00:23:03,773 --> 00:23:06,472 [laughing] 435 00:23:06,515 --> 00:23:08,604 ♪♪ 436 00:23:08,648 --> 00:23:10,867 This is a walking stick, friends. 437 00:23:10,911 --> 00:23:12,608 But that's a gentle guy. 438 00:23:12,652 --> 00:23:14,044 Walking stick. 439 00:23:14,088 --> 00:23:15,785 [chatter and laughter] 440 00:23:15,829 --> 00:23:19,267 Jim Jones said to be able to go to Jonestown 441 00:23:19,310 --> 00:23:20,355 was a privilege. 442 00:23:22,401 --> 00:23:26,579 It was... a reward to go there. 443 00:23:28,842 --> 00:23:32,323 [Stephan] The time that I spent there building the town 444 00:23:32,367 --> 00:23:35,544 that our community was going to come live in, 445 00:23:35,588 --> 00:23:38,591 was one of the happiest times of my life 446 00:23:38,634 --> 00:23:41,028 up to that point. 447 00:23:42,856 --> 00:23:44,423 [Jim Jones] We are going to have peace 448 00:23:44,466 --> 00:23:46,076 in our Promised Land valley. 449 00:23:48,731 --> 00:23:51,038 Now, in retrospect, I know much of what he said at that time 450 00:23:51,081 --> 00:23:52,692 was just a flat-out lie. 451 00:24:02,310 --> 00:24:03,354 [dramatic music] 452 00:24:04,921 --> 00:24:08,925 [faint traffic noise] 453 00:24:08,969 --> 00:24:10,971 [flashbulb snaps] 454 00:24:11,014 --> 00:24:14,278 [Marshall Kilduff] I was a city hall reporter in San Francisco. 455 00:24:14,322 --> 00:24:16,846 I noticed Jones had a lot of events, 456 00:24:16,890 --> 00:24:19,675 where he would bring in huge numbers of people 457 00:24:19,719 --> 00:24:22,896 for inconsequential meetings. 458 00:24:22,939 --> 00:24:24,550 So that piqued my curiosity. 459 00:24:24,593 --> 00:24:26,769 Why does he behave this way? 460 00:24:26,813 --> 00:24:29,076 Isn't it unusual for a religious figure to travel 461 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,513 in this kind of exalted way? 462 00:24:33,297 --> 00:24:35,517 I thought there was more to Jim Jones. 463 00:24:35,561 --> 00:24:38,128 So I went to a local California magazine at the time 464 00:24:38,172 --> 00:24:40,348 called "New West," and they said, 465 00:24:40,391 --> 00:24:41,958 "Um, okay, let's see what you got." 466 00:24:44,091 --> 00:24:48,138 [Stoen] I had heard Marshall Kilduff had been looking for me. 467 00:24:48,182 --> 00:24:51,272 And Jeannie and Al Mills, 468 00:24:51,315 --> 00:24:53,579 who had defected before I did, 469 00:24:53,622 --> 00:24:55,885 called me one night and they said, 470 00:24:55,929 --> 00:24:57,713 "We're gonna do an article." 471 00:24:57,757 --> 00:24:59,585 And I said that I would, too, 472 00:24:59,628 --> 00:25:00,977 that I wasn't gonna let 'em do it alone, 473 00:25:01,021 --> 00:25:02,413 that I would speak as well. 474 00:25:05,242 --> 00:25:06,592 [Kilduff] The ex-members, 475 00:25:06,635 --> 00:25:09,856 the folks who had fled the church said, 476 00:25:09,899 --> 00:25:11,422 "Here's what you don't know." 477 00:25:11,466 --> 00:25:13,599 [phone ringing] 478 00:25:13,642 --> 00:25:16,558 [Stoen] And I think we were there till, like, 3:00 in the morning. 479 00:25:16,602 --> 00:25:18,517 I told them everything. 480 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:22,956 The more power that he got, the sicker he got. 481 00:25:22,999 --> 00:25:26,089 [Jeannie Mills] The whippings got worse and worse. 482 00:25:26,133 --> 00:25:29,440 Our daughter was beaten 75 times with a board. 483 00:25:29,484 --> 00:25:33,357 [Bonnie Thielmann] I ran with my child out, got into my car 484 00:25:33,401 --> 00:25:35,882 and he was yelling my name as I left. 485 00:25:35,925 --> 00:25:38,537 He told me that there would be an accident in which 486 00:25:38,580 --> 00:25:40,277 all three of us would be killed. 487 00:25:40,321 --> 00:25:43,759 Once you enter Peoples Temple, you don't leave. 488 00:25:43,803 --> 00:25:45,587 Or you don't leave very easily. 489 00:25:45,631 --> 00:25:47,328 There are death threats. 490 00:25:47,371 --> 00:25:49,504 There is a lot of pressure from the congregation. 491 00:25:49,548 --> 00:25:51,462 We talked it over with our children, 492 00:25:51,506 --> 00:25:54,074 explained to them that we were going to be quitting the church. 493 00:25:54,117 --> 00:25:56,467 And they said, "Well, Mom and Dad, 494 00:25:56,511 --> 00:26:00,036 "we love you very much, and we just hope 495 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,430 "that when you do decide to quit the church, 496 00:26:02,473 --> 00:26:05,215 you move far away, so we aren't the ones assigned to kill you." 497 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:08,697 I don't think I really realized 498 00:26:08,741 --> 00:26:12,396 how dangerous a position that I was in, 499 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:15,922 but I just credit it to being young. 500 00:26:15,965 --> 00:26:18,664 And not knowing any differently or any better. 501 00:26:20,274 --> 00:26:22,885 I think what we had to say needed to be heard 502 00:26:22,929 --> 00:26:24,670 because, in the past, 503 00:26:24,713 --> 00:26:29,631 Jim had always been able to stifle any bad press like that. 504 00:26:29,675 --> 00:26:35,376 So they were just blown away by what we had to say. 505 00:26:37,944 --> 00:26:40,599 [Kilduff] "We were beaten, we had to give up all our money." 506 00:26:40,642 --> 00:26:42,818 [crowd cheering] 507 00:26:42,862 --> 00:26:44,167 "There's a sexual angle here 508 00:26:44,211 --> 00:26:45,691 that we don't think you know about." 509 00:26:45,734 --> 00:26:48,084 [crowd cheering] 510 00:26:48,128 --> 00:26:49,782 Fake healings. 511 00:26:51,131 --> 00:26:53,786 The church's inner dynamics. 512 00:26:53,829 --> 00:26:56,266 The whole thing. 513 00:26:56,310 --> 00:26:57,572 I had no idea. 514 00:26:57,616 --> 00:26:59,269 This was a new level of problem, 515 00:26:59,313 --> 00:27:00,488 a new level of the story. 516 00:27:02,838 --> 00:27:04,100 I talked to his aides, I talked 517 00:27:04,144 --> 00:27:06,015 to everybody I could at the church. 518 00:27:06,059 --> 00:27:08,322 So Jones knew I was working on stories, 519 00:27:08,365 --> 00:27:10,890 but he never wanted to talk. 520 00:27:10,933 --> 00:27:13,719 [Wagner-Wilson] Jim advised us defectors were talking to 521 00:27:13,762 --> 00:27:15,285 "New West" magazine. 522 00:27:15,329 --> 00:27:17,853 And there was going to be an article full of lies 523 00:27:17,897 --> 00:27:19,681 about Peoples Temple. 524 00:27:19,725 --> 00:27:21,030 We knew it was trouble. 525 00:27:21,074 --> 00:27:23,032 We knew that people were talking about 526 00:27:23,076 --> 00:27:25,687 what was-- happened behind closed doors, 527 00:27:25,731 --> 00:27:27,907 which we were not supposed to speak about. 528 00:27:38,657 --> 00:27:42,138 [Guinn] Jones knew maybe his followers 529 00:27:42,182 --> 00:27:44,271 initially are gonna believe in him. 530 00:27:44,314 --> 00:27:47,491 If Father says none of it's true, it's fake news. 531 00:27:47,535 --> 00:27:51,017 But his political base-- 532 00:27:51,060 --> 00:27:54,760 the mayor of San Francisco, 533 00:27:54,803 --> 00:27:56,936 the governor of California-- 534 00:27:56,979 --> 00:27:59,199 he's gonna lose that political clout. 535 00:27:59,242 --> 00:28:01,854 And when he loses that, 536 00:28:01,897 --> 00:28:05,553 he's going to lose his standing in San Francisco, 537 00:28:05,596 --> 00:28:08,295 he's gonna look terrible. 538 00:28:08,338 --> 00:28:11,515 [Jordan Vilchez] Jim was like hyper, 539 00:28:11,559 --> 00:28:13,648 and he increased the talk about 540 00:28:13,692 --> 00:28:18,740 enemies and defectors and traitors 541 00:28:18,784 --> 00:28:21,003 and people out to get us. 542 00:28:24,572 --> 00:28:27,967 [Guinn] When the story breaks, it's tremendously controversial. 543 00:28:29,708 --> 00:28:33,015 Everybody reads it, everybody's talking about it. 544 00:28:33,059 --> 00:28:35,148 Both San Francisco newspapers 545 00:28:35,191 --> 00:28:37,498 immediately assign their own reporters now. 546 00:28:37,541 --> 00:28:40,588 "Dig in. Do more. Find more." 547 00:28:40,631 --> 00:28:43,852 Reverend Jim Jones works in some very unexpected ways. 548 00:28:43,896 --> 00:28:45,114 Why didn't you just get out? 549 00:28:45,158 --> 00:28:46,855 Where did all that money go? 550 00:28:46,899 --> 00:28:48,901 He had us sign papers, blank papers. 551 00:28:48,944 --> 00:28:50,337 "No matter what goes on here, you go out 552 00:28:50,380 --> 00:28:52,121 "and tell everybody everything's okay. 553 00:28:52,165 --> 00:28:55,255 Deny everything you hear about what's going on here." 554 00:28:56,822 --> 00:28:59,955 [Guinn] The TV stations are all there, flocking. 555 00:28:59,999 --> 00:29:02,479 "Where's Jim Jones?" 556 00:29:02,523 --> 00:29:03,698 By the time the story came out 557 00:29:03,742 --> 00:29:06,135 and there was this doubt about him, 558 00:29:06,179 --> 00:29:08,921 he wasn't around to answer for it. 559 00:29:08,964 --> 00:29:11,358 [Jim Jones Jr.] In the "New West" article, 560 00:29:11,401 --> 00:29:15,057 some of the questions had to have direct answers. 561 00:29:15,101 --> 00:29:17,581 He didn't want to answer the questions. 562 00:29:17,625 --> 00:29:19,975 The [bleep] storm is not gonna stop. 563 00:29:20,019 --> 00:29:22,630 So the only solution is to get out. 564 00:29:22,673 --> 00:29:25,894 So I remember my father saying, "We're going to Guyana." 565 00:29:33,032 --> 00:29:36,035 [man] I think that Jim Jones was afraid to face the publicity 566 00:29:36,078 --> 00:29:39,516 and answer the questions here in this country. 567 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:44,565 [Jim Jones Jr.] After the "New West" article backlash that happened... 568 00:29:44,608 --> 00:29:46,872 groundswell started. 569 00:29:46,915 --> 00:29:49,570 "What's the story behind Jim Jones?" 570 00:29:49,613 --> 00:29:52,529 Was all the magic that Peoples Temple put out, 571 00:29:52,573 --> 00:29:54,531 was it true? 572 00:29:54,575 --> 00:29:57,578 And if you scratched the surface a little bit, 573 00:29:57,621 --> 00:30:00,581 you saw maybe it-- it wasn't. 574 00:30:00,624 --> 00:30:02,583 [Mary McCormick Maaga] In Guyana, 575 00:30:02,626 --> 00:30:06,500 Jim Jones was outraged by the "New West" article. 576 00:30:06,543 --> 00:30:08,719 And he was also very frightened. 577 00:30:08,763 --> 00:30:11,157 He was afraid that this would give 578 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:12,723 the detractors of Peoples Temple 579 00:30:12,767 --> 00:30:15,465 the ability to break up the church. 580 00:30:17,641 --> 00:30:19,252 [Guinn] The original plan was that, 581 00:30:19,295 --> 00:30:20,906 as soon as all this died down, he'd be back. 582 00:30:20,949 --> 00:30:23,299 But it's not dying down. 583 00:30:23,343 --> 00:30:26,737 What he's got to do is he's now got to make Jonestown 584 00:30:26,781 --> 00:30:30,437 the focal point of Peoples Temple. 585 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:34,920 And now, suddenly, Jim Jones wants virtually everybody 586 00:30:34,963 --> 00:30:37,966 in Peoples Temple to get over there. 587 00:30:38,010 --> 00:30:39,489 [indistinct chatter] 588 00:30:39,533 --> 00:30:42,579 [dramatic music] 589 00:30:42,623 --> 00:30:48,020 [Vilchez] I wasn't given a reason why I was going to Jonestown. 590 00:30:48,063 --> 00:30:49,891 Things were in such a frenzy. 591 00:30:49,935 --> 00:30:52,938 It was just, "Let's get people down there now." 592 00:30:52,981 --> 00:30:54,940 [dramatic music] 593 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:01,772 [Kilduff] That summer, they began shipping people out. 594 00:31:01,816 --> 00:31:03,905 Buses went down to banks, 595 00:31:03,949 --> 00:31:08,344 where people would deposit their money into church accounts. 596 00:31:08,388 --> 00:31:09,911 They lined them up with passports 597 00:31:09,955 --> 00:31:12,261 to get 'em out of the country legally. 598 00:31:14,046 --> 00:31:17,136 [Carter] My wife, Gloria, was already in Guyana. 599 00:31:17,179 --> 00:31:19,747 And I wanted to be with her 600 00:31:19,790 --> 00:31:21,880 for the birth of my child. 601 00:31:21,923 --> 00:31:23,794 It wasn't going to happen. 602 00:31:23,838 --> 00:31:26,667 I was sent to New York City 603 00:31:26,710 --> 00:31:30,932 to help facilitate people getting to Guyana. 604 00:31:30,976 --> 00:31:33,065 The media attention on the temple at that time 605 00:31:33,108 --> 00:31:35,284 was intense. 606 00:31:35,328 --> 00:31:36,982 So, they would fly out of different airports, 607 00:31:37,025 --> 00:31:39,941 whether it was Los Angeles, Sacramento, San Francisco, 608 00:31:39,985 --> 00:31:42,248 and they would fly on different airlines 609 00:31:42,291 --> 00:31:44,815 and they would fly in groups of three. 610 00:31:44,859 --> 00:31:46,774 They always sat apart from each other, 611 00:31:46,817 --> 00:31:48,950 nobody recognized anybody else, 612 00:31:48,994 --> 00:31:51,997 and there was a flight every day at 4:30. 613 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:53,650 [dramatic music] 614 00:32:03,530 --> 00:32:08,274 [Guinn] It's important to understand how isolated Jonestown was 615 00:32:08,317 --> 00:32:12,321 from Georgetown, the capital of Guyana. 616 00:32:12,365 --> 00:32:18,240 You've got 160 miles that cannot be driven. 617 00:32:18,284 --> 00:32:21,330 You have to either try to fly over the top of the jungle 618 00:32:21,374 --> 00:32:23,419 and land on a tiny airstrip, 619 00:32:23,463 --> 00:32:25,856 or you have to take a boat along the coast 620 00:32:25,900 --> 00:32:27,423 and down a river. 621 00:32:33,212 --> 00:32:35,649 [Gosney] It was a 19-hour boat trip 622 00:32:35,692 --> 00:32:39,044 from Georgetown up a river. 623 00:32:41,046 --> 00:32:43,352 Way, way, way, way up the river. 624 00:32:43,396 --> 00:32:45,354 [Wagner-Wilson] I was seasick. 625 00:32:45,398 --> 00:32:48,009 It was not a pleasant trip. 626 00:32:48,053 --> 00:32:50,011 But part of me was happy. It's like, "Don't complain, 627 00:32:50,055 --> 00:32:51,708 because you're on the way to the promised land." 628 00:32:51,752 --> 00:32:54,059 ♪♪ 629 00:32:58,411 --> 00:33:02,067 [Wagner-Wilson] When we pulled up to the dock and we got off... 630 00:33:03,677 --> 00:33:06,636 ...I was still apprehensive. 631 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,335 We got on the tractor and we rounded this corner, 632 00:33:09,378 --> 00:33:11,032 and I could just hear them. 633 00:33:11,076 --> 00:33:13,513 ♪ Welcome, welcome all of you 634 00:33:13,556 --> 00:33:16,081 ♪ Welcome, welcome all of you ♪ 635 00:33:16,124 --> 00:33:19,693 ♪ Glad you are with us 636 00:33:19,736 --> 00:33:23,044 ♪♪ 637 00:33:23,088 --> 00:33:24,480 What a swing. 638 00:33:24,524 --> 00:33:27,266 What liberation brings. 639 00:33:27,309 --> 00:33:30,747 [Wagner-Wilson] Jonestown was a town, it was a community. 640 00:33:30,791 --> 00:33:32,445 From the doctor's office... 641 00:33:34,273 --> 00:33:35,752 ...to the pharmacy. 642 00:33:35,796 --> 00:33:37,450 [Jim Jones] Medications here. One whole shelf 643 00:33:37,493 --> 00:33:39,104 that goes half the warehouse length. 644 00:33:39,147 --> 00:33:40,583 We have medical manuals, 645 00:33:40,627 --> 00:33:42,585 even how we could do surgery if we had to. 646 00:33:42,629 --> 00:33:45,371 If civilization as we know it now began to crumble. 647 00:33:45,414 --> 00:33:48,852 [Wagner-Wilson] To the classrooms... 648 00:33:48,896 --> 00:33:50,332 to the kitchen. 649 00:33:57,383 --> 00:34:00,081 It was built from scr-- from nothing. 650 00:34:00,125 --> 00:34:01,561 From nothing. 651 00:34:02,910 --> 00:34:05,304 [Gosney] It was really kind of remarkable 652 00:34:05,347 --> 00:34:07,523 that this whole little town 653 00:34:07,567 --> 00:34:10,222 was built in the middle of the jungle. 654 00:34:10,265 --> 00:34:13,834 Far, far away from anything. 655 00:34:17,098 --> 00:34:20,449 ♪♪ 656 00:34:20,493 --> 00:34:23,844 [Wagner-Wilson] I... wanted to get back to my husband. 657 00:34:23,887 --> 00:34:26,368 I was happy to see my baby, 658 00:34:26,412 --> 00:34:28,327 my son, and spend time with him. 659 00:34:30,807 --> 00:34:32,940 [Carter] When I finally got into Jonestown, 660 00:34:32,983 --> 00:34:35,203 I got to see Gloria and my son, Malcolm. 661 00:34:37,118 --> 00:34:41,166 I could actually feel tension leaving my body. 662 00:34:41,209 --> 00:34:44,604 Really, it was a physical sensation. 663 00:34:44,647 --> 00:34:48,260 Because it is incredibly beautiful and peaceful. 664 00:34:48,303 --> 00:34:51,263 And I thought it was exciting. 665 00:34:51,306 --> 00:34:53,265 [children laughing] 666 00:34:53,308 --> 00:34:55,005 [Jim Jones] We've been building this community-- 667 00:34:55,049 --> 00:34:57,834 as I look out over it, it's the most fantastic thing-- 668 00:34:57,878 --> 00:35:00,054 and we've made this part of the country. 669 00:35:00,098 --> 00:35:02,274 We've enriched it by everything that's growing 670 00:35:02,317 --> 00:35:03,927 and all of these beautiful buildings, 671 00:35:03,971 --> 00:35:06,104 and our medical clinic, and our lovely homes. 672 00:35:10,804 --> 00:35:13,415 [Wagner-Wilson] A typical day in Jonestown was up at 5:00. 673 00:35:13,459 --> 00:35:15,374 There would be someone on the side of the-- 674 00:35:15,417 --> 00:35:16,984 the cabin with a stick. 675 00:35:17,027 --> 00:35:19,595 "5:00, 5:00." 676 00:35:19,639 --> 00:35:21,597 So 5:00. 677 00:35:21,641 --> 00:35:25,166 We'd work six days a week, and I was okay with that 678 00:35:25,210 --> 00:35:27,908 because I felt like I was building something, 679 00:35:27,951 --> 00:35:31,651 and now I was really a good socialist. 680 00:35:31,694 --> 00:35:34,741 [members singing] ♪ Long live 681 00:35:34,784 --> 00:35:40,225 ♪ The socialist dream 682 00:35:40,268 --> 00:35:41,530 That's beautiful. 683 00:35:41,574 --> 00:35:42,531 [woman] Thank you! 684 00:35:42,575 --> 00:35:44,403 [cheering and applause] 685 00:35:44,446 --> 00:35:46,187 [Jim Jones Jr.] The getting up sweaty 686 00:35:46,231 --> 00:35:47,667 and this kind of stuff, I hated that. 687 00:35:47,710 --> 00:35:50,017 Oh, I hated that. I hated that. 688 00:35:50,060 --> 00:35:54,021 I hated walking out of your cabin on a r-- 689 00:35:54,064 --> 00:35:55,936 on-- in the rainy season, 690 00:35:55,979 --> 00:35:58,025 and your feet are full of mud and... 691 00:35:58,068 --> 00:35:59,940 You know, I hated all that kind of stuff. 692 00:36:01,985 --> 00:36:03,857 But you know something? 693 00:36:03,900 --> 00:36:07,469 When you're with 900 people you care about... 694 00:36:09,776 --> 00:36:11,386 ...it didn't seem that bad. 695 00:36:11,430 --> 00:36:14,259 [footsteps stomping, hands clapping] 696 00:36:14,302 --> 00:36:16,870 [indistinct chatter] 697 00:36:16,913 --> 00:36:19,742 I remember the dances, the youth dances. 698 00:36:21,744 --> 00:36:24,007 [cheering and applause] 699 00:36:24,051 --> 00:36:27,228 I remember some of the meetings that my father did, 700 00:36:27,272 --> 00:36:30,927 and we talked about building a new world, you know? 701 00:36:30,971 --> 00:36:33,582 Those were powerful to me. 702 00:36:33,626 --> 00:36:36,063 I felt like we were Che Guevara, 703 00:36:36,106 --> 00:36:39,284 building a new world... that's how I felt. 704 00:36:39,327 --> 00:36:42,635 [all chanting] The people united will never be defeated! 705 00:36:42,678 --> 00:36:46,029 The people united will never be defeated! 706 00:36:46,073 --> 00:36:49,119 The people united will never be defeated! 707 00:36:49,163 --> 00:36:50,817 The people united... 708 00:36:50,860 --> 00:36:53,472 ♪♪ 709 00:36:53,515 --> 00:36:55,735 [Wagner-Wilson] Things were good for a while. 710 00:36:55,778 --> 00:36:57,302 [man] Grandma Bates, how do you like it here? 711 00:36:57,345 --> 00:36:59,260 I love it. I love it. 712 00:36:59,304 --> 00:37:00,957 It's-- I love it better than any place 713 00:37:01,001 --> 00:37:02,524 I've been in my life. 714 00:37:02,568 --> 00:37:04,700 All of a sudden, things started shifting. 715 00:37:04,744 --> 00:37:06,267 I just love it. 716 00:37:06,311 --> 00:37:09,401 I hope everything is gonna be all right for us. 717 00:37:13,927 --> 00:37:16,799 [dramatic music] 718 00:37:21,326 --> 00:37:24,242 [fire roaring] 719 00:37:24,285 --> 00:37:25,721 [Maaga] Jonestown was ill-equipped 720 00:37:25,765 --> 00:37:27,506 to provide a life 721 00:37:27,549 --> 00:37:29,290 for all the people that arrived. 722 00:37:29,334 --> 00:37:32,902 And Jim Jones is aware that what's happening in Jonestown 723 00:37:32,946 --> 00:37:35,035 is not sustainable, either. 724 00:37:38,038 --> 00:37:41,389 Ultimately Jones has about 1,000 people 725 00:37:41,433 --> 00:37:43,478 in a place built for half that. 726 00:37:43,522 --> 00:37:45,306 [indistinct chatter] 727 00:37:45,350 --> 00:37:48,657 Almost instantly, there's not enough food. 728 00:37:48,701 --> 00:37:50,703 [Jim Jones] We're gonna conserve on food. 729 00:37:50,746 --> 00:37:52,966 Keep that up because we'll need every dollar. 730 00:37:53,009 --> 00:37:55,055 'Cause this is the only kind of place to be. 731 00:37:55,098 --> 00:37:56,491 Freedom. 732 00:37:56,535 --> 00:37:59,668 [Wagner-Wilson] As more people began coming, 733 00:37:59,712 --> 00:38:01,627 even the children weren't getting what they needed. 734 00:38:01,670 --> 00:38:04,369 And the senior citizens definitely were not getting 735 00:38:04,412 --> 00:38:05,631 the food that they needed. 736 00:38:07,502 --> 00:38:10,200 We even sell bananas now because we're trying to make money. 737 00:38:10,244 --> 00:38:12,028 We need money so badly to take care 738 00:38:12,072 --> 00:38:13,421 of all of our family, to save them. 739 00:38:15,597 --> 00:38:17,817 [Guinn] Jones knows he's got money that could take care of that 740 00:38:17,860 --> 00:38:20,254 for decades, but he's not revealing that. 741 00:38:20,298 --> 00:38:23,213 So instead people are told, "We've gotta do better 742 00:38:23,257 --> 00:38:25,825 or we're gonna starve and be humiliated." 743 00:38:33,485 --> 00:38:36,226 [Wagner-Wilson] You're physically adjusting to the work, 744 00:38:36,270 --> 00:38:39,447 but you get used to it, you get used to the work. 745 00:38:39,491 --> 00:38:40,927 What you don't get used to 746 00:38:40,970 --> 00:38:43,712 is the sirens in the middle of the night. 747 00:38:43,756 --> 00:38:45,932 [siren wailing] 748 00:38:45,975 --> 00:38:48,413 Or Jim's drugged, sometimes incoherent voice 749 00:38:48,456 --> 00:38:50,153 over the loudspeaker in the middle of the night. 750 00:39:03,863 --> 00:39:06,518 [Gosney] In Jonestown, there were loudspeakers everywhere. 751 00:39:06,561 --> 00:39:08,607 They went on 24/7. 752 00:39:08,650 --> 00:39:10,565 The voice of Jim Jones. 753 00:39:15,265 --> 00:39:17,485 [Maaga] Jim Jones did a terrible job 754 00:39:17,529 --> 00:39:19,008 of maintaining his leadership 755 00:39:19,052 --> 00:39:20,836 within the community of Jonestown. 756 00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:22,882 He would stumble, 757 00:39:22,925 --> 00:39:25,885 he would urinate off the side of the walkways. 758 00:39:27,452 --> 00:39:29,497 [Gosney] It was apparent that his... 759 00:39:29,541 --> 00:39:31,934 drug use had increased. 760 00:39:31,978 --> 00:39:33,893 He was slurring his speech. 761 00:39:47,515 --> 00:39:51,737 Remember, his number one source of well-being, 762 00:39:51,780 --> 00:39:53,391 if you could even call it that, 763 00:39:53,434 --> 00:39:55,958 was adulation. 764 00:39:56,002 --> 00:40:00,789 Or feeling like he was adored by the people around him. 765 00:40:00,833 --> 00:40:03,705 And now his source was finite. 766 00:40:03,749 --> 00:40:07,274 It was the same people every day, same thing. 767 00:40:07,317 --> 00:40:10,799 So, what he tried to do was just escalate things. 768 00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:26,902 [Wagner-Wilson] So I'm looking at all this, 769 00:40:26,946 --> 00:40:28,643 I'm seeing this, 770 00:40:28,687 --> 00:40:31,951 and I'm starting to really acknowledge 771 00:40:31,994 --> 00:40:35,041 what I'm seeing as not my imagination 772 00:40:35,084 --> 00:40:37,957 or not my ability to be a good socialist, 773 00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:41,047 but the fact that there is something seriously wrong here. 774 00:40:41,090 --> 00:40:44,877 [dramatic music] 775 00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:47,053 [Stephan Jones] I think Dad was very much aware of the fact 776 00:40:47,096 --> 00:40:49,708 that our town could not last. 777 00:40:49,751 --> 00:40:51,449 What we were doing was not sustainable. 778 00:40:53,233 --> 00:40:55,931 [Maaga] As Jim Jones realized 779 00:40:55,975 --> 00:40:57,324 what was happening at Jonestown 780 00:40:57,367 --> 00:41:00,153 was a kind of failed experiment, 781 00:41:00,196 --> 00:41:02,938 he and his leadership began to ask themselves, 782 00:41:02,982 --> 00:41:08,204 "How can we still succeed in terms of history?" 783 00:41:08,248 --> 00:41:11,947 And so this, "We're an egalitarian community 784 00:41:11,991 --> 00:41:13,993 "that's gonna show the world how we can live 785 00:41:14,036 --> 00:41:16,604 as a utopian gathering of people," 786 00:41:16,648 --> 00:41:19,738 became instead, "How do we show the world 787 00:41:19,781 --> 00:41:23,306 "what a truly committed group of people would do 788 00:41:23,350 --> 00:41:25,091 "if they are threatened with 789 00:41:25,134 --> 00:41:27,180 the disintegration of their community?" 790 00:41:27,223 --> 00:41:28,747 [cheering and applause] 791 00:41:28,790 --> 00:41:30,966 [Gosney] The people that went to Jonestown 792 00:41:31,010 --> 00:41:32,359 wanted to believe in something. 793 00:41:39,409 --> 00:41:42,500 And they wanted to make a better world. 794 00:41:42,543 --> 00:41:45,633 [Wagner-Wilson] I never saw us dying from within. 795 00:41:45,677 --> 00:41:49,332 I never, ever saw it... coming. 796 00:41:49,376 --> 00:41:51,247 [dramatic note, static] 59869

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