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John Paul and i were talking about that sort of the crisis at the beginning of a

movie when we don't know what to do

and just

you know the couple of weeks of sitting in front of a blank screen and Greg

oh my god i have no idea how to do this i'm not a composer i'm not worthy i

you know it's it's all over.

Because

part of the problem with music as you don't really know where it comes from

so what if they turn off the top

you know

like.

So there are no

are no guarantees that you're going to go and

write the next score.

When he and and he very simply said

well you know sometimes it takes a little bit

of time to get a movie under your fingers.

I think.

This this is what happens to me.

I have to start on a new movie and i haven't worked in a while

which is rare

because i never take holidays out of

the following reason.

It's like.

I have no idea where to start i cannot write nothing comes

it's just.

A terrifying blank sheet with a terrifying desert in my brain

and

you know

the screen looks like a blizzard with

just white on it

but if you write every day and it doesn't matter what it tissue right

just write something.

It's like

it's like i supposed to run us

not that i'm a runner not

even know what about eyes

but

pretend i would know what

what it means to work out or two spots something

like this i think you just develop a muscle

and i think if you write every day you just get into the flow of writing.

Way a movie supposed to work and used to work like this in the old days

and in the old days when we had film and we

when people were catching on cams and

steamed Beck's and flatbeds

and they were cutting films.

They used to be

a system

in place where

you'd command film would be sort of cut and you'd sit

that was the director and the editor your music editor

and you'd spot the movie

everything has changed because of technology and the effort

because.

They used to be a certain other part to the system which

was at a certain point they would lock the picture otherwise

would make no picture changes

and they would now give the compose twelve weeks

with a locked picture

to write the score

well that went out of the window as

as soon as.

Digital editing came in.

So now.

Anything can change at any moment in time

with

one other thing.

That

changed everything which is

of

visual effects it used to be the compose the who was late on things.

I was holding everything up

well

the reason i love

computer graphics as is because those other guys who are holding up everything

so

they actually buying me time

if i just turn the process around

so now

the way i work as

forget the spotting session

let's just start

if i

if i can if i have

if if i have the space on the time available i stopped

when they start shooting and i stopped of that conversation

i start collecting sounds and i stopped making sounds and i start

coming up with ideas and i start coming up as tunes.

Once it's

finished shooting.

Himself to working in parallel with the cutting room and.

All that happens this those twelve weeks of the locked picture which don't exist

anymore i just put them at the beginning now.

I write anything between

two

to five sort of

fully fleshed out diaries and then the

then they're just fits you know where you go oh hang on a certain i have an idea

i have an idea for loves the might have an idea of far.

I

like

that was a

wedding march out to do

this

movie so so you know that that doesn't require

more than.

Just the specificity of writing that seat

but again.

Just just to figure out.

What the best version of it

as you know

i wrote a long-form version and then just cut

it out you know it's it's actually quite simple

get up

do

you have two types of notes in these

diaries you have the good notes and you have to bat notes and after a while you just

go and yanked the bad notes and you just

you just have to be

ruthless about the stuff as well

this isn't the tone of the movie and this isn't in la turn off the movie

and you fit

and

and it's partly.

That part you know the

as i said in of getting it under your fingers as

actually

finding the tone

and once you find the tone.

You know

you're not suddenly going to go into you know jazz odyssey improvisation you know

as as is going to be very specific

to within

you know the the style you've created for that movie

and you know that there are many different about says that there's a

the Sherlock one are so

you know

that was and Irene of adler one which was

endless

and.

Because i could never quite

pin that relationship daughter and i don't think we ever

managed to pin that relationship dog

so i was writing.

Music for.

A love story that never developed the way i wanted to

start

which is okay

you know

sometimes.

What you do with these suites as well as the you give

them to your director and it gives himself mean idea of.

How to approach a seen are

you know our are sometimes it's just about you know

wouldn't it have been nice if we had

been able to develop a more complete

relationship

and sometimes it's just nice for myself that i actually go and.

I need to you know to figure out the character i

figured out somewhere in the middle of the peace

but i need to go and.

Do you to do the autobiography so i know what that character as about and i might

write scenes that don't exist but

that i just imagining my head

just to

get to the

the heart of the matter

but this material then becomes you know and i can give it

to arrange rangers and orchestrators i can

give it to other people on my team him and say

how's it can get our can you just do me

the string quartet version of this i think this tune a solid i think

you not

go off and go off and have a play with it.

So

the diary throws of a lot of.

Other bits and pieces you know sometimes it's just like

during the remix where you

you know you may mute a bunch of tracks and

some really interesting stuff going on in the background

and

that in itself can become a cute

and

again i mean that the the the the biggest helping

and

my process

to me as my music editor.

Who sort of

not only the Leah saw between the cutting room in the film and me

but.

Who is a very creative thinker himself and

something that i knew was going to be only a

love theme he suddenly figures out how to do

you know if you suffered of an action scene

that it has an interesting effect.

If

you know the way i write as

just

a second i'm a computer i'm just spinning out the ram you know i just need to know

what i need to know for this project

and then it

it's all gone

so it makes room for for

something new.

So sometimes i go and

look at these movies and a second i'm seeing them for the first time.

You know i i learned a lot from.

Dark night.

You know it's it's.

The amount of

recalling the amount of trucks

at one probably be read

at twelve hundred trucks of just music

and.

We're supposed to

of insane.

No wonder i was feeling a bit wobbly

last

scoring date.

Do.

So by the time of keep to

dark knight rises.

I was actually

during a lot of the mixing just.

On my laptop basic.

I would

give farmer efficient tracks over to the dubbing engineer but really

you know

the person who managed to

my music editor

to one degree.

Or another and then

and then

one of the things you learn really pretty quickly as you

gotta be really good about your know numbering bring systems your organization

that is

you know.

When i started out you know i i lost so many pieces which never ever appear to get i

mean i i remember the black hawk down

because we are working in a

and in in a serious hurry and

and the age of hottest recording hadn't quite self caught up with us

so we have this pro tools system but it took forever to load

so

whenever somebody had an idea we would just shoot it

on a handheld video camera everybody had a handheld

video camera

and so that became the sort of.

Away of you know

how quick i got a tune just shoot it.

And as one tune which we could never find a gun and of course is

in the making of and so

every time i you know

somebody has made me watch

the making of the music of black hawk down on

you.

Up

because there

was a

really good tune and it sort of feet in the movie so

so you learned up you know your you've got to be organized you have to have people

who forced you to

and i am not organized

so

so

just by admitting that you know that i have people around me

who are.

You know.

Who celebrate

c cd like

nobody's business.

For me i mean folks.

Literally personally.

A for me an unsuccessful Scott as something.

Web i'm just repeating myself.

Which doesn't mean.

That i don't repeat myself there are certain questions.

You know i i think we all have that the certain questions

which we've

had all our lives which were trying to find an answer to

and we just

and the opportunity

of working in

the film for instance that your habits.

Ultimately

you're just of writing from your point of view and your writing about yourself

and you keep us as

getting the same questions i mean why are there so many love songs you know

what people try to figure out you know so so

if i come up with the same arms

then I've failed but if i

if a if

if i figure out how to just shift the answer

a bit further forward if i can ask a new question

and and

i'm always more interested in that

every school should actually throw up questions as opposed to answer them.

I think the question is always

more compelling than the answer.

You know

oh

turns out the earth isn't flat

so it's round

okay.

You know

now that i know that what am i going to do with it you know

i'm.

A

block if you just start with the character

and.

And let me stay specifically with stronach.

Let's say you

didn't see the trailer or anything like this let's say you just going to the theater

and you're going to go and see a Sherlock Holmes film

you're coming with a certain amount of.

Baggage

you

think you already know the answers and the first thing i'm doing as

i'm throwing you off kilter.

I'm going.

It's got banjos and it

i didn't expect that

sucks so

do that you know

just just

put potato an appropriate way

it's not random it's not allow key

as

it's

it's figure out how to make the.

Character of

compiling by you questioning everything about him all the time.

You know.

Enter the

oh he he did that i didn't expect him to do that

oh the joker did that

i didn't.

I didn't expect that

serps

so that i mean

part of the

part of for how to ask the call question as

you supposed to do something slightly unexpected.

That's

a in itself as a question.

You know

and i think he has opposed to

give an audience

and experience

the i think that's our job

and i think the experience isn't to answer a question i think the experience as

to go away and the next day go.

Back get you know that bit where it all explodes and that was that crazy violent

why did he do that

but you know

why am i still remembering this

you know that if

you watch just want to throw a pebble in

and the circles get bigger until the question becomes

a real question.

You.

We humans seem to like the idea of symmetrical

phrase or so you know yes your your to pass for us

it boss sixteen boss you know

works for Mozart works for disco bucks for funk works for folk songs

you know

and then you'll

everybody survived you get the occasional one that steps out of it like

i think yesterday yeah the

McCartney song i think that's the saffron paraphrase it just works like that

and it feels symmetrical and feels complete

and

and that's when you go

hmm

genius.

You know when the rules are broken without you noticing the Bruce that's when

again that that's when some some somebody adds a new.

The

piece to

to the cavalry in a way

i mean

that.

And i should try to just played a slightly

slower and a little bit little property but that.

Red lion journey to the line peace

and.

It breaks every rule you're not supposed to do this parallel movement.

If i'm just moving everything is moving in parallel.

It's and eleven ba phrase therefore it's.

Are symmetrical

and.

For for the longest time it doesn't quite know which kids and and it keeps

repeating over and over and and eventually the

level bar phrase

sharpness down to ten buff race and it just suddenly

gives you this of.

Jolt

so

if you put that in front of.

A music teacher before it was in the movie

before people went oh that's a pretty good piece

and academic.

Mind would have told you

everything wrong about it.

So that the the trick as as.

It's not a trick that

but it's

the the mission all just you know part of the mission is

to find out

and maybe that's just

how i grew up you know where.

If somebody tells you that there's a rule.

You have to

figure out how to break it

because that's the only thing that move things forward

to i have certain rules i go to.

Yes because i want to go and figure out how to

how to break them in the most elegant way how to how to do it in a way that you.

Sometimes you don't even

you don't even know

and that that's very important to me that

you know the the don't see the hand of the

artist at work all the time i think that's.

You just

do you just feel that something new or something fresh.

As occurring

and.

Without seeing you know without seeing the

without seeing the horrible surgery.