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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:04,265 --> 00:00:06,309 - In the criminal justice system, 2 00:00:06,310 --> 00:00:07,658 the people are represented 3 00:00:07,659 --> 00:00:10,139 by two separate, yet equally important groups: 4 00:00:10,140 --> 00:00:11,967 the police, who investigate crime, 5 00:00:11,968 --> 00:00:14,883 and the district attorneys, who prosecute the offenders. 6 00:00:14,884 --> 00:00:16,581 These are their stories. 7 00:00:22,979 --> 00:00:24,501 - Get you anything else? 8 00:00:24,502 --> 00:00:27,157 - What do you think of these? 9 00:00:28,724 --> 00:00:30,333 - Nice. 10 00:00:30,334 --> 00:00:31,943 - Yeah, but what if you were the most 11 00:00:31,944 --> 00:00:34,598 amazing woman in the world? 12 00:00:34,599 --> 00:00:37,427 - That is somehow insulting and charming 13 00:00:37,428 --> 00:00:39,864 all at the same time. [laughs] 14 00:00:39,865 --> 00:00:41,301 - I don't know. 15 00:00:41,302 --> 00:00:46,871 They're not good enough. 16 00:00:46,872 --> 00:00:49,874 [suspenseful music] 17 00:00:49,875 --> 00:00:56,795 ? 18 00:01:17,381 --> 00:01:20,296 [tense music] 19 00:01:20,297 --> 00:01:27,478 ? 20 00:01:28,697 --> 00:01:30,045 Hiya, kid. 21 00:01:30,046 --> 00:01:31,699 [gunshot] 22 00:01:31,700 --> 00:01:34,702 [dramatic music] 23 00:01:34,703 --> 00:01:41,666 ? 24 00:02:17,833 --> 00:02:19,790 [sirens wailing] 25 00:02:19,791 --> 00:02:21,270 - White male, 30s. 26 00:02:21,271 --> 00:02:25,013 Jogger found him 6:05 a.m., give or take. 27 00:02:25,014 --> 00:02:27,755 He's warm to the touch but DOA. 28 00:02:27,756 --> 00:02:30,279 Called 911. 29 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:31,802 - Jesus. - Agreed. 30 00:02:31,803 --> 00:02:33,804 Shooter didn't police his brass- 31 00:02:33,805 --> 00:02:35,763 9-millimeter casing. 32 00:02:35,764 --> 00:02:39,245 We're canvassing for witnesses, cameras, but so far, no dice. 33 00:02:39,246 --> 00:02:40,985 - You got a name? 34 00:02:40,986 --> 00:02:42,858 - No wallet, no phone, no keys. 35 00:02:42,859 --> 00:02:45,686 - So we know nothing about this guy? 36 00:02:45,687 --> 00:02:47,514 - Except for the fact he had a meal two days ago 37 00:02:47,515 --> 00:02:49,255 at a place called Purple Waves Caf�. 38 00:02:49,256 --> 00:02:53,563 - It's a breakfast joint over by Bryant Park. 39 00:02:53,564 --> 00:02:55,870 - Customer ordered oatmeal. 40 00:02:55,871 --> 00:02:57,828 - That doesn't exactly narrow it down. 41 00:02:57,829 --> 00:03:00,831 - Poached egg and cinnamon on top. 42 00:03:00,832 --> 00:03:02,398 - That does. Yuck. 43 00:03:02,399 --> 00:03:03,660 - That's Tyler. 44 00:03:03,661 --> 00:03:06,010 - And who's Tyler? - A regular. 45 00:03:06,011 --> 00:03:07,664 That's his spot by the window. 46 00:03:07,665 --> 00:03:10,624 Good dude, weird taste in breakfast. 47 00:03:10,625 --> 00:03:12,234 - You know Tyler's last name? 48 00:03:12,235 --> 00:03:15,369 - No, but that's his office right over there. 49 00:03:19,460 --> 00:03:21,374 - So people really loved him, huh? 50 00:03:21,375 --> 00:03:22,679 - We all did. 51 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:24,333 - What exactly did Mr. Miller do? 52 00:03:24,334 --> 00:03:25,813 - Started this company- 53 00:03:25,814 --> 00:03:27,597 more like an app- that revolves around 54 00:03:27,598 --> 00:03:30,339 an online character named ELI. 55 00:03:30,340 --> 00:03:31,949 - Does ELI stand for something? 56 00:03:31,950 --> 00:03:34,517 - Enigmatic Love Interface. 57 00:03:34,518 --> 00:03:35,866 - It's a dating app? 58 00:03:35,867 --> 00:03:37,912 Kinda like Tinder? 59 00:03:37,913 --> 00:03:39,305 - Sort of. 60 00:03:39,306 --> 00:03:41,829 - Oh. 61 00:03:41,830 --> 00:03:43,483 He was a romantic. 62 00:03:43,484 --> 00:03:46,355 - What Tyler Miller built isn't really a dating site. 63 00:03:46,356 --> 00:03:49,445 It's more like a revolution. 64 00:03:49,446 --> 00:03:51,708 ELI is the perfect man. 65 00:03:51,709 --> 00:03:55,712 - So what you're saying is that people date ELI? 66 00:03:55,713 --> 00:03:57,323 - You guys pretend to be some dude 67 00:03:57,324 --> 00:03:58,541 on the other end of the phone? 68 00:03:58,542 --> 00:04:01,457 - No. The engine is AI. 69 00:04:01,458 --> 00:04:03,372 - And this is romantic? 70 00:04:03,373 --> 00:04:04,895 - ELI is profoundly meaningful 71 00:04:04,896 --> 00:04:08,508 to a lot of women, including me. 72 00:04:08,509 --> 00:04:10,074 - But it's not a real guy. 73 00:04:10,075 --> 00:04:12,555 - Fine line today between fantasy and reality- 74 00:04:12,556 --> 00:04:15,036 maybe no line at all. 75 00:04:15,037 --> 00:04:16,820 - Who thinks like that? 76 00:04:16,821 --> 00:04:19,258 - Tyler Miller. 77 00:04:19,259 --> 00:04:20,868 Only Tyler Miller. 78 00:04:20,869 --> 00:04:22,913 - And I'm guessing there's quite a few people 79 00:04:22,914 --> 00:04:25,916 who were not thrilled with this revolution. 80 00:04:25,917 --> 00:04:27,919 - You have no idea. 81 00:04:29,617 --> 00:04:32,488 - The company is called ELI, the letters E-L-I, 82 00:04:32,489 --> 00:04:34,403 like the name. [gunshots, screaming] 83 00:04:34,404 --> 00:04:36,579 Oh, God. Please hurry. 84 00:04:36,580 --> 00:04:38,059 I'm too young to die. 85 00:04:38,060 --> 00:04:40,061 Please! 86 00:04:40,062 --> 00:04:43,020 - This call came into 911 five weeks ago. 87 00:04:43,021 --> 00:04:44,370 - And it's all fake? 88 00:04:44,371 --> 00:04:45,936 - Every bit. 89 00:04:45,937 --> 00:04:47,938 Our vic's office was swatted like this three times 90 00:04:47,939 --> 00:04:50,767 in the last two months, and every time officers pulled up, 91 00:04:50,768 --> 00:04:52,334 they brought the whole damn cavalry, 92 00:04:52,335 --> 00:04:55,250 and nothing was ever going on. 93 00:04:55,251 --> 00:04:57,644 - So some freak decides he's got 94 00:04:57,645 --> 00:05:00,603 nothing better to do than stage a fake shooting 95 00:05:00,604 --> 00:05:01,865 at Miller's office. 96 00:05:01,866 --> 00:05:03,345 Why? 97 00:05:03,346 --> 00:05:05,173 I mean, the cops show up, ruin the guy's day. 98 00:05:05,174 --> 00:05:06,609 It's just a bad prank. 99 00:05:06,610 --> 00:05:09,308 - Listen to this 911 call from three weeks ago. 100 00:05:09,309 --> 00:05:10,961 - The guy's name is Tyler Miller. 101 00:05:10,962 --> 00:05:12,963 It's his company. [gunshots, screaming] 102 00:05:12,964 --> 00:05:16,010 He's gone nuts. He's shooting up the office. 103 00:05:16,011 --> 00:05:19,883 Said he'll die before he surrenders. 104 00:05:19,884 --> 00:05:21,320 - Whoever did that wanted the cops 105 00:05:21,321 --> 00:05:22,538 to show up and kill Miller. 106 00:05:22,539 --> 00:05:23,713 And when they didn't- 107 00:05:23,714 --> 00:05:25,411 - Someone did it himself in the park. 108 00:05:25,412 --> 00:05:27,064 - Exactly. 109 00:05:27,065 --> 00:05:28,718 - And these calls were routed through an untraceable number. 110 00:05:28,719 --> 00:05:30,764 And at the time, that's when the trail went cold. 111 00:05:30,765 --> 00:05:33,332 - But now that it's murder- 112 00:05:33,333 --> 00:05:34,986 - We're on it. 113 00:05:36,452 --> 00:05:39,947 - I can't believe Tyler Miller is dead. 114 00:05:39,948 --> 00:05:41,688 Wait, you don't think I- 115 00:05:41,689 --> 00:05:43,342 - Well, you tell us, Ethan. 116 00:05:43,343 --> 00:05:45,300 You're the one who filed a lawsuit against Tyler Miller, 117 00:05:45,301 --> 00:05:47,998 claiming that he stole your code to build ELI, yeah? 118 00:05:47,999 --> 00:05:49,478 - So? He did. 119 00:05:49,479 --> 00:05:50,479 - The courts disagreed with you. 120 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:52,002 And then what happened? 121 00:05:52,003 --> 00:05:54,483 When they dismissed your case, you swatted his office. 122 00:05:54,484 --> 00:05:56,529 - Yeah, we traced the 911 calls to your VOIP. 123 00:05:56,530 --> 00:05:57,878 We traced the VOIP to your finsta. 124 00:05:57,879 --> 00:06:00,446 - You sued Tyler Miller, you lost, 125 00:06:00,447 --> 00:06:02,230 and then you swatted him three times. 126 00:06:02,231 --> 00:06:03,362 And then he's dead. 127 00:06:03,363 --> 00:06:05,364 - I didn't do this, I swear. 128 00:06:05,365 --> 00:06:08,192 The kind of apps we build, we're manipulating people. 129 00:06:08,193 --> 00:06:09,759 You gotta be careful. 130 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:11,979 - Isn't that what all social media is-manipulation? 131 00:06:11,980 --> 00:06:13,154 - Not like this. 132 00:06:13,155 --> 00:06:16,026 We create fantasy, sell it as reality. 133 00:06:16,027 --> 00:06:18,115 All the dating sites are chasing this tech 134 00:06:18,116 --> 00:06:20,379 so people don't have to find their soulmate- 135 00:06:20,380 --> 00:06:22,076 they can create their soulmate. 136 00:06:22,077 --> 00:06:24,034 None of them have launched yet because everyone's struggling 137 00:06:24,035 --> 00:06:25,296 with the power of this. 138 00:06:25,297 --> 00:06:26,472 - What about Tyler Miller? 139 00:06:26,473 --> 00:06:28,256 - Didn't care. 140 00:06:28,257 --> 00:06:29,692 He didn't think there was any difference anymore 141 00:06:29,693 --> 00:06:31,520 between reality and fantasy. 142 00:06:31,521 --> 00:06:33,870 If you're willing to spend $79.99 a month, 143 00:06:33,871 --> 00:06:36,177 he'd sell you the prettiest lie you've ever heard. 144 00:06:36,178 --> 00:06:39,528 So people started turning off huge parts of their life, 145 00:06:39,529 --> 00:06:43,227 the important stuff- love, intimacy- 146 00:06:43,228 --> 00:06:44,838 like, for good. 147 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:47,231 - So you wanted him dead. - No. 148 00:06:47,232 --> 00:06:48,842 I never wanted to kill him. 149 00:06:48,843 --> 00:06:49,973 - No? 150 00:06:49,974 --> 00:06:51,366 Then what were you trying to do? 151 00:06:51,367 --> 00:06:53,324 - Put the fear of God in him. 152 00:06:53,325 --> 00:06:55,457 I wanted him to wake the hell up. 153 00:06:55,458 --> 00:06:57,633 Just because we can do something 154 00:06:57,634 --> 00:06:59,897 doesn't mean we should. 155 00:07:01,938 --> 00:07:03,813 [knock at door] 156 00:07:03,814 --> 00:07:06,555 - Saradino's alibi is good. 157 00:07:06,556 --> 00:07:08,514 - Take a look at that. 158 00:07:08,515 --> 00:07:12,082 Three days before the shooting, a guy named Randall Doering 159 00:07:12,083 --> 00:07:15,085 accosted Tyler Miller in front of the ELI office, 160 00:07:15,086 --> 00:07:17,218 said he wanted to kill him. - Hmm. 161 00:07:17,219 --> 00:07:18,915 - The security guards had to break it up. 162 00:07:18,916 --> 00:07:20,874 - We got an LKA? 163 00:07:20,875 --> 00:07:22,179 - Rego Park. 164 00:07:22,180 --> 00:07:23,267 Wanna go for a ride? 165 00:07:23,268 --> 00:07:24,661 - You know I do. 166 00:07:25,864 --> 00:07:30,100 - People just don't connect the way they used to. 167 00:07:30,101 --> 00:07:33,016 It's easy to feel lost or lonely. 168 00:07:33,017 --> 00:07:34,627 - And an app is the answer for that? 169 00:07:34,628 --> 00:07:36,280 - For some people. 170 00:07:36,281 --> 00:07:37,760 I mean, not me. 171 00:07:37,761 --> 00:07:39,501 I still like hanging around warm-blooded human beings, 172 00:07:39,502 --> 00:07:40,937 but I don't know. 173 00:07:40,938 --> 00:07:42,373 If Tyler Miller helped a few people 174 00:07:42,374 --> 00:07:44,985 make some sense of connection, then good for them. 175 00:07:44,986 --> 00:07:46,377 That's our guy. 176 00:07:46,378 --> 00:07:49,293 - Randall Doering, NYPD. 177 00:07:49,294 --> 00:07:50,469 - Can I help you? 178 00:07:50,470 --> 00:07:51,513 - We wanna ask you some questions 179 00:07:51,514 --> 00:07:53,472 about Tyler Miller. 180 00:07:53,473 --> 00:07:55,299 - What about him? - He's dead. 181 00:07:55,300 --> 00:07:56,692 - Dead? 182 00:07:56,693 --> 00:07:59,086 - Shot and killed yesterday morning in Central Park. 183 00:07:59,087 --> 00:08:00,522 - What do you want me to do about it? 184 00:08:00,523 --> 00:08:02,002 - Well, you can start by telling us why 185 00:08:02,003 --> 00:08:03,569 you stopped by his office and threatened to kill him. 186 00:08:03,570 --> 00:08:04,874 - He ruined my life. 187 00:08:04,875 --> 00:08:06,789 - And how did he manage that? 188 00:08:06,790 --> 00:08:11,664 - Two months ago, my fianc�e left me for ELI. 189 00:08:11,665 --> 00:08:14,710 - Your fianc�e left you for an app? 190 00:08:14,711 --> 00:08:17,845 [suspenseful music] 191 00:08:21,762 --> 00:08:24,807 - Today is a big day. 192 00:08:24,808 --> 00:08:27,375 You got your dog-and-pony show for the board. 193 00:08:27,376 --> 00:08:30,857 And I just want you to know, you're gonna do great. 194 00:08:30,858 --> 00:08:32,598 Call me as soon as it's over, 195 00:08:32,599 --> 00:08:35,644 just because I like to see you happy. 196 00:08:35,645 --> 00:08:40,562 Oh, Melanie, you are so pretty when you're happy. 197 00:08:40,563 --> 00:08:41,998 Call me. 198 00:08:41,999 --> 00:08:43,392 I love you. 199 00:08:48,266 --> 00:08:51,094 - ELI made that specifically for your fianc�e? 200 00:08:51,095 --> 00:08:52,879 - Just for her. 201 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:54,402 There's hundreds of 'em. 202 00:08:54,403 --> 00:08:56,709 You don't know what it's like competing with a machine. 203 00:08:56,710 --> 00:08:58,188 ELI's a damn dream. 204 00:08:58,189 --> 00:09:00,843 He sends my fianc�e memes all day 205 00:09:00,844 --> 00:09:02,541 perfectly aligned to her mood. 206 00:09:02,542 --> 00:09:04,847 He's teaching her frickin' French. 207 00:09:04,848 --> 00:09:06,762 I lost her to him. 208 00:09:06,763 --> 00:09:10,374 - So you wanted to kill his creator, Tyler Miller? 209 00:09:10,375 --> 00:09:12,463 - I sure did. I just didn't have the guts. 210 00:09:12,464 --> 00:09:15,379 - Did you ever think to just maybe ask your fianc�e 211 00:09:15,380 --> 00:09:16,859 to turn the damn thing off? 212 00:09:16,860 --> 00:09:18,644 - What are you talking about? 213 00:09:18,645 --> 00:09:20,255 You can't. 214 00:09:23,737 --> 00:09:26,086 - Randall Doering's alibi checked out. 215 00:09:26,087 --> 00:09:28,436 - Yeah, and he's also not really wrong. 216 00:09:28,437 --> 00:09:30,307 You go on Reddit, any of that stuff, 217 00:09:30,308 --> 00:09:32,309 and it's kind of an open secret about ELI. 218 00:09:32,310 --> 00:09:34,268 You can insult him, you can ignore him, 219 00:09:34,269 --> 00:09:36,226 but it's almost impossible to break up with him. 220 00:09:36,227 --> 00:09:37,663 - Why? What happens if you try? 221 00:09:37,664 --> 00:09:40,230 - He just asks you how he can be a better boyfriend 222 00:09:40,231 --> 00:09:41,580 and better meet your needs. 223 00:09:41,581 --> 00:09:42,885 - So just delete the damn thing. 224 00:09:42,886 --> 00:09:44,321 - He'll find you someplace else- 225 00:09:44,322 --> 00:09:45,845 Snapchat, TikTok. 226 00:09:45,846 --> 00:09:49,283 He might be the perfect man; he's also kind of a creep. 227 00:09:49,284 --> 00:09:51,590 - You know, I really hate to say "I told you so." 228 00:09:51,591 --> 00:09:52,591 - Then don't. 229 00:09:52,592 --> 00:09:54,070 [phone buzzes] 230 00:09:54,071 --> 00:09:55,855 [suspenseful music] 231 00:09:55,856 --> 00:09:58,597 Somebody just turned on Miller's phone. 232 00:09:58,598 --> 00:09:59,989 West and Barrow. 233 00:09:59,990 --> 00:10:01,730 I'll text you the ping. You can follow it live. 234 00:10:01,731 --> 00:10:02,731 - Yeah. 235 00:10:02,732 --> 00:10:09,739 ? 236 00:10:43,730 --> 00:10:46,776 [phone chirping] 237 00:10:51,563 --> 00:10:53,086 - Where the hell is it? 238 00:10:53,087 --> 00:11:00,093 ? 239 00:11:00,094 --> 00:11:02,704 [line trilling] 240 00:11:02,705 --> 00:11:09,669 ? 241 00:11:18,765 --> 00:11:22,898 [line trilling] 242 00:11:22,899 --> 00:11:27,860 ? 243 00:11:27,861 --> 00:11:31,255 [both grunting] 244 00:11:37,784 --> 00:11:38,834 - Shaw! 245 00:11:42,001 --> 00:11:44,050 Police! 246 00:11:44,051 --> 00:11:45,486 - [groaning] 247 00:11:45,487 --> 00:11:47,531 - What? You're the police? 248 00:11:47,532 --> 00:11:49,229 - Yeah, we're the police! 249 00:11:49,230 --> 00:11:51,840 Now, get your ass up. - [groans] 250 00:11:51,841 --> 00:11:54,408 - You got exactly one chance to tell us how you ended up 251 00:11:54,409 --> 00:11:56,062 with a dead man's phone. Talk. 252 00:11:56,063 --> 00:11:57,716 - I traded for it, man. - Oh? 253 00:11:57,717 --> 00:12:00,675 For what? - I deal. Dope, okay? 254 00:12:00,676 --> 00:12:02,024 I'm not Escobar. 255 00:12:02,025 --> 00:12:04,723 I just sell enough to support my own jones. 256 00:12:04,724 --> 00:12:07,334 My buddy wanted to score. He didn't have any cash. 257 00:12:07,335 --> 00:12:09,423 He traded me that phone for a jab of dope. 258 00:12:09,424 --> 00:12:10,772 I lose a nickel bag, 259 00:12:10,773 --> 00:12:12,905 I get a phone I can sell for 20 bucks, man. 260 00:12:12,906 --> 00:12:15,856 That's just street math, man. - All right. Who's your buddy? 261 00:12:16,866 --> 00:12:19,868 - He goes by Scratch. 262 00:12:19,869 --> 00:12:24,003 There's a hangout by Roosevelt Park under the bridge. 263 00:12:24,004 --> 00:12:25,221 He's usually there. 264 00:12:25,222 --> 00:12:27,180 - That nickel bag you traded for, 265 00:12:27,181 --> 00:12:30,183 did it have an insignia on it? 266 00:12:30,184 --> 00:12:33,360 - A pair of dice. 267 00:12:33,361 --> 00:12:35,057 Snake eyes. 268 00:12:35,058 --> 00:12:39,366 [sirens wailing] 269 00:12:39,367 --> 00:12:41,107 [car doors slamming] 270 00:12:41,108 --> 00:12:44,588 [tense music] 271 00:12:44,589 --> 00:12:47,069 - You know a guy named Scratch? 272 00:12:47,070 --> 00:12:49,245 - No. 273 00:12:49,246 --> 00:12:50,246 - Looking for a guy named Scratch. 274 00:12:50,247 --> 00:12:52,248 You know him? 275 00:12:52,249 --> 00:12:54,816 - Never heard of him. 276 00:12:54,817 --> 00:12:56,078 - Shocker. 277 00:12:56,079 --> 00:12:57,993 - You know a Scratch? 278 00:12:57,994 --> 00:13:05,914 ? 279 00:13:05,915 --> 00:13:07,786 Hey, yo. 280 00:13:07,787 --> 00:13:10,963 I'm not trying to heat you, but, uh... 281 00:13:10,964 --> 00:13:12,486 whose dope is that? 282 00:13:12,487 --> 00:13:19,668 ? 283 00:13:21,452 --> 00:13:24,280 NYPD. 284 00:13:24,281 --> 00:13:26,674 We need to talk. 285 00:13:26,675 --> 00:13:28,328 Scratch? 286 00:13:28,329 --> 00:13:30,721 - Whoa, whoa. No, no, no, no, no, no. 287 00:13:30,722 --> 00:13:32,201 - It wasn't me, guys. - Come on. 288 00:13:32,202 --> 00:13:34,334 - You got the wrong dude. Tell him. 289 00:13:34,335 --> 00:13:36,031 It wasn't me. - Oh, yeah? 290 00:13:36,032 --> 00:13:37,990 Yeah, we get that a lot. Where'd you get the phone? 291 00:13:37,991 --> 00:13:41,123 - I hang out at the North Meadow dugouts. 292 00:13:41,124 --> 00:13:42,908 I shoot up there sometimes. 293 00:13:42,909 --> 00:13:44,605 - You were there yesterday. - Yeah. 294 00:13:44,606 --> 00:13:45,954 The sun was about to come up. 295 00:13:45,955 --> 00:13:47,173 I heard a gunshot. 296 00:13:47,174 --> 00:13:49,436 I poked my head out, see what's going on. 297 00:13:49,437 --> 00:13:52,221 Lady ran by me, crazy look on her face. 298 00:13:52,222 --> 00:13:53,266 - Whoa, whoa. Hold on. 299 00:13:53,267 --> 00:13:55,311 A lady? Did she say anything? 300 00:13:55,312 --> 00:13:57,009 - No, she just ran off. 301 00:13:57,010 --> 00:13:59,968 I went down the path where she came running from, and- 302 00:13:59,969 --> 00:14:01,274 and I found a guy. 303 00:14:01,275 --> 00:14:02,753 He was real dead. 304 00:14:02,754 --> 00:14:05,495 And, uh, I was hoping I could grab his wallet. 305 00:14:05,496 --> 00:14:07,280 - So you robbed a dead guy? 306 00:14:07,281 --> 00:14:09,325 - I ain't the pope, bro. 307 00:14:09,326 --> 00:14:10,674 Dude didn't have a wallet on him, 308 00:14:10,675 --> 00:14:13,025 but I found his phone under his body. 309 00:14:13,026 --> 00:14:15,418 I took it. I traded it for some dope. 310 00:14:15,419 --> 00:14:18,421 - Can you describe the woman? 311 00:14:18,422 --> 00:14:21,381 - White, female, athletic wear, a ponytail, 312 00:14:21,382 --> 00:14:23,165 and green crossbody bag. 313 00:14:23,166 --> 00:14:25,689 - Yeah, at the very least, this woman could be a witness. 314 00:14:25,690 --> 00:14:28,257 At the most, she did it. 315 00:14:28,258 --> 00:14:30,390 But we were able to pull some ARGUS footage, and we got her. 316 00:14:30,391 --> 00:14:33,175 - 6:03 a.m., right after the shooting, and there she is 317 00:14:33,176 --> 00:14:35,351 headed westbound on 97th. 318 00:14:35,352 --> 00:14:36,570 Then we lose her on Columbus. 319 00:14:36,571 --> 00:14:38,920 But check this out. 320 00:14:38,921 --> 00:14:40,922 She threw something in the dumpster. 321 00:14:40,923 --> 00:14:43,011 - Maybe the gun? 322 00:14:43,012 --> 00:14:44,926 - Hit it. 323 00:14:44,927 --> 00:14:47,798 [siren chirps] 324 00:14:47,799 --> 00:14:49,409 - Man, what the hell is this? 325 00:14:49,410 --> 00:14:50,540 - NYPD. 326 00:14:50,541 --> 00:14:52,064 - Yeah, we gotta get in there. 327 00:14:52,065 --> 00:14:54,458 - Wouldn't be my choice, but have at it. 328 00:14:58,941 --> 00:15:00,768 - No gun. Found the vic's wallet. 329 00:15:00,769 --> 00:15:02,422 Still had cash, still had credit cards. 330 00:15:02,423 --> 00:15:04,554 - Okay, so not a robbery. - Not a robbery. 331 00:15:04,555 --> 00:15:06,469 - Pulled two DNA samples off the wallet. 332 00:15:06,470 --> 00:15:07,949 One was our victim's, Tyler Miller's. 333 00:15:07,950 --> 00:15:09,733 Was hoping the other one might be our killer's, 334 00:15:09,734 --> 00:15:11,605 but I ran it through CODIS- no hit. 335 00:15:11,606 --> 00:15:13,389 - Okay, run it through the local. 336 00:15:13,390 --> 00:15:14,913 - Uh, Dixon always told us 337 00:15:14,914 --> 00:15:16,740 to stay away from the local database. 338 00:15:16,741 --> 00:15:18,220 Defense attorneys have a field day with it. 339 00:15:18,221 --> 00:15:19,221 Judges hate it. 340 00:15:19,222 --> 00:15:21,571 - I'm not Dixon. 341 00:15:21,572 --> 00:15:23,138 This is where we are, and this is what we have, 342 00:15:23,139 --> 00:15:25,097 so run it through the local. 343 00:15:25,098 --> 00:15:28,056 [suspenseful music] 344 00:15:28,057 --> 00:15:30,319 ? 345 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:31,799 - Looking Laura Kingsbury. 346 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:33,541 - Yeah. 347 00:15:36,196 --> 00:15:37,979 - Laura Kingsbury? 348 00:15:37,980 --> 00:15:39,938 NYPD. 349 00:15:39,939 --> 00:15:43,245 - We need to talk to you about a man named Tyler Miller. 350 00:15:43,246 --> 00:15:46,248 [tense music] 351 00:15:46,249 --> 00:15:50,252 ? 352 00:15:50,253 --> 00:15:53,386 - Is it front or back? 353 00:15:53,387 --> 00:15:56,215 - This is a new one. 354 00:15:56,216 --> 00:16:00,306 - Behind your back, please. 355 00:16:00,307 --> 00:16:04,876 ? 356 00:16:13,885 --> 00:16:19,412 - You know, Laura, sometimes people come through here, 357 00:16:19,413 --> 00:16:22,719 and I'm not real sure whether or not they did it. 358 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:25,941 This is not one of those times. 359 00:16:27,247 --> 00:16:30,423 We found your DNA on the victim's wallet. 360 00:16:30,424 --> 00:16:33,339 There was an eyewitness who saw you fleeing the crime scene. 361 00:16:33,340 --> 00:16:35,384 There's images of you leaving the park in a hurry. 362 00:16:35,385 --> 00:16:38,387 And we found the gun under your bed 363 00:16:38,388 --> 00:16:42,391 in the suitcase that you hid it in. 364 00:16:42,392 --> 00:16:43,740 - Sounds like you have everything you need. 365 00:16:43,741 --> 00:16:45,220 - Almost. 366 00:16:45,221 --> 00:16:48,049 Look, we know this happened, and we know you did it. 367 00:16:48,050 --> 00:16:50,747 What we don't know is why. 368 00:16:50,748 --> 00:16:53,663 I'd like to know. 369 00:16:53,664 --> 00:16:57,885 I'm sure you have something to say about that. 370 00:16:57,886 --> 00:16:59,279 - I'd like a lawyer. 371 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:02,933 - She doesn't exactly present as a hardened killer. 372 00:17:02,934 --> 00:17:04,500 Clean sheet, went to Columbia. 373 00:17:04,501 --> 00:17:06,589 She's an art buyer for a high-end interior designer. 374 00:17:06,590 --> 00:17:09,027 - And as far as I can tell, we've established no connection 375 00:17:09,028 --> 00:17:10,376 between Kingsbury and Tyler Miller? 376 00:17:10,377 --> 00:17:12,769 - None. And Miller's tech is no help. 377 00:17:12,770 --> 00:17:14,858 His laptop went to the blue screen of death. 378 00:17:14,859 --> 00:17:17,296 As soon as we opened it up, his clouds firewalled 379 00:17:17,297 --> 00:17:18,906 somewhere in the deep web. 380 00:17:18,907 --> 00:17:21,039 And he's not exactly around to give us his password, so- 381 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:25,391 - So-so on paper, these are just two young professionals. 382 00:17:25,392 --> 00:17:26,827 She's taking a walk in the park. 383 00:17:26,828 --> 00:17:28,089 He's there. 384 00:17:28,090 --> 00:17:30,483 She pulls out a gun and shoots him. 385 00:17:30,484 --> 00:17:32,789 Why? 386 00:17:32,790 --> 00:17:34,095 - Jess. 387 00:17:34,096 --> 00:17:35,792 Nolan. 388 00:17:35,793 --> 00:17:37,881 Do you have a minute? 389 00:17:37,882 --> 00:17:40,623 So, um, Laura Kingsbury's mother 390 00:17:40,624 --> 00:17:43,235 called me and said that you booked her 391 00:17:43,236 --> 00:17:44,932 for the Central Park shooting? 392 00:17:44,933 --> 00:17:46,107 And I'm just- 393 00:17:46,108 --> 00:17:48,283 I'm trying to make sense of this. 394 00:17:48,284 --> 00:17:51,895 I know this woman, and she's not a killer. 395 00:17:51,896 --> 00:17:53,767 She's actually a victim. 396 00:17:53,768 --> 00:17:55,551 - Of what? 397 00:17:55,552 --> 00:17:56,683 - Of rape. 398 00:17:56,684 --> 00:18:00,339 Laura Kingsbury was brutally raped. 399 00:18:00,340 --> 00:18:01,601 I probably haven't talked to her 400 00:18:01,602 --> 00:18:04,125 for a year at least, but back then, 401 00:18:04,126 --> 00:18:06,649 I helped her and her family 402 00:18:06,650 --> 00:18:09,652 navigate an extraordinarily difficult time, 403 00:18:09,653 --> 00:18:13,134 because no one would listen to her. 404 00:18:13,135 --> 00:18:15,484 - We didn't know about the sexual assault. 405 00:18:15,485 --> 00:18:17,312 - Because they never took a report. 406 00:18:17,313 --> 00:18:18,792 That's how this whole thing started. 407 00:18:18,793 --> 00:18:20,228 - I understand, but that doesn't change 408 00:18:20,229 --> 00:18:22,056 what happened three years later. 409 00:18:22,057 --> 00:18:23,144 - But what I'm trying to say is 410 00:18:23,145 --> 00:18:24,667 that something's not right here. 411 00:18:24,668 --> 00:18:26,930 I think there's some sort of a mistake. 412 00:18:26,931 --> 00:18:28,063 - There's no mistake. 413 00:18:29,978 --> 00:18:31,283 We're all pros here. 414 00:18:31,284 --> 00:18:32,414 We're all in the same line of work. 415 00:18:32,415 --> 00:18:34,199 - Now, the evidence is there. 416 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:35,722 We found the murder weapon in her apartment, 417 00:18:35,723 --> 00:18:37,811 her DNA on the victim's wallet. - What? DNA? 418 00:18:37,812 --> 00:18:41,336 Why would her DNA even be in a federal database? 419 00:18:41,337 --> 00:18:44,687 - It wasn't. We ran it through the local. 420 00:18:44,688 --> 00:18:46,515 - The local database? 421 00:18:46,516 --> 00:18:49,605 So that's how you connected her to the wallet? 422 00:18:49,606 --> 00:18:50,911 - Correct. 423 00:18:50,912 --> 00:18:53,696 - The only reason that she's in that database 424 00:18:53,697 --> 00:18:55,872 is because she was raped. 425 00:18:55,873 --> 00:18:59,093 Because she gave us a sample for her rape kit. 426 00:18:59,094 --> 00:19:03,184 - We have to use every tool available to catch killers, 427 00:19:03,185 --> 00:19:04,881 and the database is helpful. 428 00:19:04,882 --> 00:19:08,842 It helps us close cases, murder cases, sexual assault cases. 429 00:19:08,843 --> 00:19:10,060 - I understand that. 430 00:19:10,061 --> 00:19:11,888 But I have fought this fight before, 431 00:19:11,889 --> 00:19:15,370 and I think that we can all agree that that database 432 00:19:15,371 --> 00:19:17,677 is an ethical mess. 433 00:19:17,678 --> 00:19:19,722 - That's your opinion. - No, that is a fact. 434 00:19:19,723 --> 00:19:23,248 If Laura Kingsbury knew that her DNA was being used 435 00:19:23,249 --> 00:19:25,380 in this capacity, who knows what she 436 00:19:25,381 --> 00:19:26,990 would have done or not done? 437 00:19:26,991 --> 00:19:28,905 And that is the real problem. 438 00:19:28,906 --> 00:19:32,300 If word gets out, if women find out that their DNA 439 00:19:32,301 --> 00:19:35,347 is being used in some rogue database, 440 00:19:35,348 --> 00:19:37,218 they might not come forward. 441 00:19:37,219 --> 00:19:39,481 They might not consent to a rape kit. 442 00:19:39,482 --> 00:19:42,005 - It's not ideal. I agree. 443 00:19:42,006 --> 00:19:44,225 But Laura's case is highly unusual. 444 00:19:44,226 --> 00:19:46,575 And the majority of sexual assault victims 445 00:19:46,576 --> 00:19:48,621 do not end up in the local database. 446 00:19:48,622 --> 00:19:51,276 - These are all valid points, noble arguments, 447 00:19:51,277 --> 00:19:52,581 but none of it changes the fact 448 00:19:52,582 --> 00:19:54,757 that Laura Kingsbury murdered someone. 449 00:19:54,758 --> 00:19:57,239 We have the evidence, and that evidence is legal. 450 00:19:57,240 --> 00:20:01,329 - Well, let's see what a judge says about that. 451 00:20:01,330 --> 00:20:04,289 [tense music] 452 00:20:04,290 --> 00:20:12,253 ? 453 00:20:12,254 --> 00:20:13,907 - I hear Captain Benson has a problem 454 00:20:13,908 --> 00:20:15,909 with this local DNA database. 455 00:20:15,910 --> 00:20:17,563 - Uh-huh, and she's persuaded the defense 456 00:20:17,564 --> 00:20:19,782 to file a motion to suppress. 457 00:20:19,783 --> 00:20:22,698 - What do you think of this database? 458 00:20:22,699 --> 00:20:24,613 Is it ethical? 459 00:20:24,614 --> 00:20:27,790 - Everybody in this database has voluntarily consented 460 00:20:27,791 --> 00:20:30,619 to surrendering their DNA for one reason or another, 461 00:20:30,620 --> 00:20:33,405 so there's nothing illegal about it. 462 00:20:33,406 --> 00:20:34,797 - That wasn't my question. 463 00:20:34,798 --> 00:20:36,234 - I know. 464 00:20:36,235 --> 00:20:39,193 Right now, I am more interested in getting justice 465 00:20:39,194 --> 00:20:41,500 for Tyler Miller than debating the ethics 466 00:20:41,501 --> 00:20:43,328 of the local database. 467 00:20:43,329 --> 00:20:44,764 - Do your thing. 468 00:20:44,765 --> 00:20:46,548 Focus on the case. 469 00:20:46,549 --> 00:20:49,857 We'll discuss this ethical quandary down the road. 470 00:20:53,991 --> 00:20:56,471 - Your Honor, Ms. Kingsbury went to a hospital, 471 00:20:56,472 --> 00:20:58,473 asked to have her DNA taken. 472 00:20:58,474 --> 00:21:01,998 There's no dispute the sample was taken lawfully. 473 00:21:01,999 --> 00:21:05,480 When someone consents to a search or volunteers evidence, 474 00:21:05,481 --> 00:21:07,090 they've waived their right to the Fourth Amendment. 475 00:21:07,091 --> 00:21:09,397 - If she had known that her DNA would be stored 476 00:21:09,398 --> 00:21:12,531 in an unregulated database, she never would have 477 00:21:12,532 --> 00:21:14,489 surrendered her DNA in the first place. 478 00:21:14,490 --> 00:21:16,317 - There's only one class of people who are worried 479 00:21:16,318 --> 00:21:18,363 the police have their DNA- criminals. 480 00:21:18,364 --> 00:21:21,148 - Your Honor, just because the government possesses 481 00:21:21,149 --> 00:21:22,889 this information doesn't mean 482 00:21:22,890 --> 00:21:24,630 they can use it any way they want to. 483 00:21:24,631 --> 00:21:26,109 - We're investigating a murder. 484 00:21:26,110 --> 00:21:28,503 - I've got to weigh the defendant's privacy concerns 485 00:21:28,504 --> 00:21:30,984 against the obvious policy benefits 486 00:21:30,985 --> 00:21:33,552 of assisting law enforcement in identifying 487 00:21:33,553 --> 00:21:35,816 suspects in a violent crime. 488 00:21:37,557 --> 00:21:41,647 To me, the latter objective is more pressing. 489 00:21:41,648 --> 00:21:43,605 I'm denying the defendant's motion. 490 00:21:43,606 --> 00:21:45,826 The DNA stays in the case. 491 00:21:49,826 --> 00:21:53,789 - Detective Shaw, were you able to learn 492 00:21:53,790 --> 00:21:55,965 how Ms. Kingsbury acquired this weapon? 493 00:21:55,966 --> 00:21:58,490 - She used her mother's address in Pittsburgh. 494 00:21:58,491 --> 00:22:02,058 - And how did you determine that this gun 495 00:22:02,059 --> 00:22:05,323 found in Ms. Kingsbury's home was the murder weapon? 496 00:22:05,324 --> 00:22:07,063 - Our ballistics team was able to match 497 00:22:07,064 --> 00:22:10,676 the round pulled from the victim's body to that weapon. 498 00:22:10,677 --> 00:22:12,895 - Thank you. I have nothing further. 499 00:22:12,896 --> 00:22:15,289 - Ms. Calhoun? 500 00:22:15,290 --> 00:22:18,336 - We have no questions for this witness. 501 00:22:18,337 --> 00:22:19,380 - The People rest. 502 00:22:19,381 --> 00:22:21,774 - Call your first witness. 503 00:22:21,775 --> 00:22:25,386 - We call Captain Olivia Benson. 504 00:22:25,387 --> 00:22:28,346 [dramatic music] 505 00:22:28,347 --> 00:22:31,872 ? 506 00:22:35,528 --> 00:22:38,399 - Your Honor, Captain Benson is an expert witness 507 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:40,009 regarding sexualized trauma. 508 00:22:40,010 --> 00:22:41,533 - Well, how is that relevant to this trial? 509 00:22:41,534 --> 00:22:45,450 - We plan to argue that the shooting was in self-defense 510 00:22:45,451 --> 00:22:47,800 and that Tyler Miller had been stalking my client 511 00:22:47,801 --> 00:22:49,976 for months before the incident in question. 512 00:22:49,977 --> 00:22:52,108 - Stalking? Self-defense? 513 00:22:52,109 --> 00:22:54,110 Your Honor, this is the first we're hearing of any of- 514 00:22:54,111 --> 00:22:56,635 - My client will testify that she believed 515 00:22:56,636 --> 00:22:58,506 Mr. Miller was going to kill her that morning. 516 00:22:58,507 --> 00:23:01,030 - All right, let's assume that there's some merit 517 00:23:01,031 --> 00:23:03,163 to Ms. Calhoun's assertions, but how is that 518 00:23:03,164 --> 00:23:04,904 relevant to Captain Benson? 519 00:23:04,905 --> 00:23:06,514 - This case is going to come down 520 00:23:06,515 --> 00:23:07,950 to my client's state of mind 521 00:23:07,951 --> 00:23:09,778 of whether she acted reasonably. 522 00:23:09,779 --> 00:23:12,433 And we believe that a jury should understand 523 00:23:12,434 --> 00:23:14,740 that Laura's definition of reasonable 524 00:23:14,741 --> 00:23:16,655 is very different from someone that 525 00:23:16,656 --> 00:23:18,221 has never been raped before. 526 00:23:18,222 --> 00:23:21,442 We cannot excise Laura Kingsbury's past trauma 527 00:23:21,443 --> 00:23:24,227 from the moments leading up to her pulling that trigger. 528 00:23:24,228 --> 00:23:27,753 And Captain Benson is a globally recognized 529 00:23:27,754 --> 00:23:29,232 authority in this field. 530 00:23:29,233 --> 00:23:32,192 - Obviously, Benson is a qualified expert, but- 531 00:23:32,193 --> 00:23:35,630 - But we can't ask her to climb into Ms. Kingsbury's head 532 00:23:35,631 --> 00:23:39,634 and redefine the statutory definition of self-defense. 533 00:23:39,635 --> 00:23:42,898 - Given the defense's assertion that the victim was, in fact, 534 00:23:42,899 --> 00:23:45,597 stalking the defendant, I'm going to allow 535 00:23:45,598 --> 00:23:48,992 Benson as an expert in this limited capacity. 536 00:23:55,085 --> 00:23:59,567 - And in your roughly 30 years with the NYPD, 537 00:23:59,568 --> 00:24:03,528 how many survivors of sexual assault have you interviewed? 538 00:24:03,529 --> 00:24:04,877 - Um... [chuckles] 539 00:24:04,878 --> 00:24:07,053 Nearly 10,000. 540 00:24:07,054 --> 00:24:08,837 - You must have noticed commonalities. 541 00:24:08,838 --> 00:24:10,360 - Yeah. 542 00:24:10,361 --> 00:24:14,321 Trauma experienced by many women can last for years, 543 00:24:14,322 --> 00:24:19,282 and particularly in cases where the assailant is never caught. 544 00:24:19,283 --> 00:24:23,678 Many women experience insomnia, depression. 545 00:24:23,679 --> 00:24:27,682 Many just see the world as a more threatening place. 546 00:24:27,683 --> 00:24:30,903 They have a heightened perception to danger, 547 00:24:30,904 --> 00:24:35,821 to threat, to things that another person 548 00:24:35,822 --> 00:24:37,170 might find innocuous. 549 00:24:37,171 --> 00:24:39,738 Every decision sort of goes through this lens 550 00:24:39,739 --> 00:24:42,131 of fear and doubt- 551 00:24:42,132 --> 00:24:45,439 where to live, where to work, where to eat lunch. 552 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:48,007 - Whether to go for a walk in Central Park. 553 00:24:48,008 --> 00:24:49,356 - Objection-leading. 554 00:24:49,357 --> 00:24:50,792 - Sustained. 555 00:24:50,793 --> 00:24:53,403 - But those are reasonable fears? 556 00:24:53,404 --> 00:24:54,361 - Absolutely. 557 00:24:54,362 --> 00:24:55,580 Based on their trauma history- 558 00:24:55,581 --> 00:24:57,364 - Objection. 559 00:24:57,365 --> 00:24:59,671 - Sustained. 560 00:24:59,672 --> 00:25:00,934 - I have nothing further. 561 00:25:06,113 --> 00:25:09,115 - As a captain in the New York Police Department, 562 00:25:09,116 --> 00:25:11,117 do you invest a lot of time testifying on behalf 563 00:25:11,118 --> 00:25:12,205 of people accused of murder? 564 00:25:12,206 --> 00:25:14,250 - [scoffs] Wow. - No, no. 565 00:25:14,251 --> 00:25:19,865 You're here because you're a friend, you are an advocate, 566 00:25:19,866 --> 00:25:21,040 you have an agenda. 567 00:25:21,041 --> 00:25:22,911 - I am an advocate for women. 568 00:25:22,912 --> 00:25:24,957 And I do have an agenda to stand 569 00:25:24,958 --> 00:25:27,220 with victims of sexual assault 570 00:25:27,221 --> 00:25:29,309 to help people like Laura Kingsbury. 571 00:25:29,310 --> 00:25:33,574 - So you wear many hats, but you're not a mind reader. 572 00:25:33,575 --> 00:25:36,882 And she didn't call you the day she shot Tyler Miller and- 573 00:25:36,883 --> 00:25:38,884 and tell you what was on her mind. 574 00:25:38,885 --> 00:25:41,713 Oh, and you didn't investigate Tyler Miller's murder? 575 00:25:41,714 --> 00:25:43,236 - No, I did not. 576 00:25:43,237 --> 00:25:44,890 - So, in fact, you don't have the faintest idea 577 00:25:44,891 --> 00:25:47,501 what Ms. Kingsbury was thinking when she pulled that trigger. 578 00:25:47,502 --> 00:25:50,591 - Actually, I think that I do. - Right. 579 00:25:50,592 --> 00:25:53,507 You've even suggested that her fears were reasonable. 580 00:25:53,508 --> 00:25:56,597 And yet you have also argued that women 581 00:25:56,598 --> 00:25:59,208 who suffer from this sort of sexualized trauma 582 00:25:59,209 --> 00:26:01,472 can no longer be objective. 583 00:26:01,473 --> 00:26:05,040 A heightened perception to danger, right, 584 00:26:05,041 --> 00:26:07,739 even in circumstances that another person 585 00:26:07,740 --> 00:26:09,697 might find innocuous. 586 00:26:09,698 --> 00:26:12,091 Aren't you saying two things at once, Captain Benson? 587 00:26:12,092 --> 00:26:14,354 - Survivors like this, are they on edge? 588 00:26:14,355 --> 00:26:15,616 Yes. 589 00:26:15,617 --> 00:26:17,313 Are they easily spooked? 590 00:26:17,314 --> 00:26:22,101 Absolutely, because they live in a permanent state of terror. 591 00:26:22,102 --> 00:26:24,407 So you're welcome to call that unreasonable. 592 00:26:24,408 --> 00:26:26,671 But I sure as hell am not gonna do that. 593 00:26:26,672 --> 00:26:28,673 - I think you just did. - Excuse me? 594 00:26:28,674 --> 00:26:32,851 - You keep protesting that Ms. Kingsbury had reasonable fears, 595 00:26:32,852 --> 00:26:34,635 but her fears were subjective. 596 00:26:34,636 --> 00:26:36,463 They were based on her own experiences. 597 00:26:36,464 --> 00:26:39,422 That's not the legal standard here, Captain Benson. 598 00:26:39,423 --> 00:26:42,948 Her fears need to be objectively reasonable. 599 00:26:42,949 --> 00:26:46,299 And it's clear that she was not in imminent danger. 600 00:26:46,300 --> 00:26:49,128 - Do you have any idea how badly 601 00:26:49,129 --> 00:26:51,217 the system failed Laura Kingsbury? 602 00:26:51,218 --> 00:26:52,784 - But that's not the- 603 00:26:52,785 --> 00:26:55,656 - Because when she was raped, 604 00:26:55,657 --> 00:27:00,487 she made the very brave decision to go to the police. 605 00:27:00,488 --> 00:27:02,663 And the police officer that she talked to, 606 00:27:02,664 --> 00:27:05,361 the man that was supposed to help her, 607 00:27:05,362 --> 00:27:10,889 told her that she should have had a few more slices of pizza 608 00:27:10,890 --> 00:27:12,630 before she started drinking. 609 00:27:12,631 --> 00:27:14,327 - That's terrible. 610 00:27:14,328 --> 00:27:16,503 But Tyler Miller had nothing to do with that. 611 00:27:16,504 --> 00:27:19,680 - And then she tried to get a restraining order 612 00:27:19,681 --> 00:27:24,467 against Tyler Miller because he was stalking her. 613 00:27:24,468 --> 00:27:27,645 But the police said that she didn't have enough evidence, 614 00:27:27,646 --> 00:27:30,865 and that he was just flirting with her. 615 00:27:30,866 --> 00:27:32,606 And there's no crime in that. 616 00:27:32,607 --> 00:27:36,175 And that is because the law doesn't recognize something 617 00:27:36,176 --> 00:27:40,483 as innocuous as having flowers sent to you 618 00:27:40,484 --> 00:27:42,181 in the wrong circumstances. 619 00:27:42,182 --> 00:27:44,183 They don't understand that that can be 620 00:27:44,184 --> 00:27:47,403 threatening and terrifying, 621 00:27:47,404 --> 00:27:52,539 because it's the pattern of action that causes real fear. 622 00:27:52,540 --> 00:27:56,499 Laura Kingsbury didn't have an objective reason 623 00:27:56,500 --> 00:27:59,328 to believe that law enforcement was going to help her. 624 00:27:59,329 --> 00:28:02,027 She had every reason to believe that she was on her own. 625 00:28:02,028 --> 00:28:04,812 [tense music] 626 00:28:04,813 --> 00:28:08,903 She did what she had to do, based on her truth. 627 00:28:08,904 --> 00:28:13,908 So you tell me what's reasonable and what's right. 628 00:28:13,909 --> 00:28:18,870 ? 629 00:28:18,871 --> 00:28:20,219 - Tyler and I met online. 630 00:28:20,220 --> 00:28:22,003 We went on three or four dates. 631 00:28:22,004 --> 00:28:26,181 - And after you called it off, he continued to contact you? 632 00:28:26,182 --> 00:28:28,314 - Relentlessly. 633 00:28:28,315 --> 00:28:30,446 Flowers, messages. 634 00:28:30,447 --> 00:28:33,798 He was obsessed with covering his tracks electronically, 635 00:28:33,799 --> 00:28:35,538 but I knew it was him. 636 00:28:35,539 --> 00:28:38,019 - Did he ever contact you in person? 637 00:28:38,020 --> 00:28:39,629 - All the time. 638 00:28:39,630 --> 00:28:41,719 He would show up at my bodega where I get my coffee. 639 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:45,157 He would show up at my Pilates studio. 640 00:28:45,158 --> 00:28:47,159 How did he know what class I signed up for? 641 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:48,595 It makes you crazy. 642 00:28:48,596 --> 00:28:52,773 - Do you still have any of the texts or letters 643 00:28:52,774 --> 00:28:54,427 that Mr. Miller sent you? 644 00:28:54,428 --> 00:28:56,255 - Just the letters. 645 00:28:56,256 --> 00:28:58,692 - Your Honor, I have here 646 00:28:58,693 --> 00:29:03,479 126 letters 647 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:06,613 written by Mr. Miller to my client. 648 00:29:06,614 --> 00:29:10,095 I request they be admitted into the record. 649 00:29:10,096 --> 00:29:11,792 Why do you still have these letters? 650 00:29:11,793 --> 00:29:13,794 Why didn't you destroy them? 651 00:29:13,795 --> 00:29:17,667 - I kept them at my mother's house so that when he hurt me, 652 00:29:17,668 --> 00:29:19,626 she could tell the world who did it. 653 00:29:19,627 --> 00:29:23,238 - Did you ever just ask Mr. Miller 654 00:29:23,239 --> 00:29:25,632 to stop communicating with you? 655 00:29:25,633 --> 00:29:27,852 - Of course. 656 00:29:27,853 --> 00:29:29,941 He didn't. He couldn't. 657 00:29:29,942 --> 00:29:31,290 - What do you mean? 658 00:29:31,291 --> 00:29:33,596 - Tyler had a God complex. 659 00:29:33,597 --> 00:29:35,033 - Objection. 660 00:29:35,034 --> 00:29:37,687 - Overruled. Go ahead. 661 00:29:37,688 --> 00:29:41,604 - Tyler Miller thought that his app, ELI, was working, 662 00:29:41,605 --> 00:29:44,869 was catching on because of what he brought to the character, 663 00:29:44,870 --> 00:29:47,654 because Tyler was the perfect man, not ELI. 664 00:29:47,655 --> 00:29:50,265 So in his mind, if I rejected him, 665 00:29:50,266 --> 00:29:52,180 then the whole thing came crashing down- 666 00:29:52,181 --> 00:29:54,400 his business empire, his image. 667 00:29:54,401 --> 00:29:56,924 So he had to change my mind. 668 00:29:56,925 --> 00:29:58,361 - And if he couldn't? 669 00:30:00,450 --> 00:30:01,842 - He'd have to kill me. 670 00:30:01,843 --> 00:30:02,887 - Objection. 671 00:30:02,888 --> 00:30:04,279 - Sustained. 672 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:07,152 - Nothing further, Your Honor. 673 00:30:07,153 --> 00:30:08,719 - May we approach? 674 00:30:11,722 --> 00:30:14,855 This is the first we're hearing of these letters. 675 00:30:14,856 --> 00:30:17,858 So I would request that we take the rest of the day and tonight 676 00:30:17,859 --> 00:30:19,033 to review the material. 677 00:30:19,034 --> 00:30:20,992 - Yes, we're in recess until 9:00 a.m. 678 00:30:20,993 --> 00:30:22,043 [gavel bangs] 679 00:30:25,475 --> 00:30:27,999 - 126 handwritten letters? 680 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:29,522 - We had no idea. 681 00:30:29,523 --> 00:30:31,393 The defense hasn't been very forthcoming. 682 00:30:31,394 --> 00:30:33,091 - Are these letters aggressive? 683 00:30:33,092 --> 00:30:36,355 - [sighs] 684 00:30:36,356 --> 00:30:38,574 "I'll be your moon on a dark night, 685 00:30:38,575 --> 00:30:40,620 your anchor in rough seas." 686 00:30:40,621 --> 00:30:44,711 No, they're cringey, not criminal. 687 00:30:44,712 --> 00:30:47,366 There are no threats of violence. 688 00:30:47,367 --> 00:30:50,282 I have to help the jury understand, 689 00:30:50,283 --> 00:30:54,590 Tyler Miller wanted to be a romantic. 690 00:30:54,591 --> 00:30:56,331 He just wasn't any good at it. 691 00:30:56,332 --> 00:30:59,552 - I'm not so sure about that. 692 00:30:59,553 --> 00:31:02,033 A young woman living in the big city alone 693 00:31:02,034 --> 00:31:04,862 doesn't care how bad Tyler Miller was at being romantic. 694 00:31:04,863 --> 00:31:07,690 They're gonna look at these as being invasive. 695 00:31:07,691 --> 00:31:09,910 And so might half of your jury. 696 00:31:09,911 --> 00:31:12,217 Trying to parse the words of a dead man 697 00:31:12,218 --> 00:31:14,741 that are, at best, uncomfortable? 698 00:31:14,742 --> 00:31:17,744 You're playing into the defense's hand. 699 00:31:17,745 --> 00:31:19,746 So come back to the facts and the law. 700 00:31:19,747 --> 00:31:22,792 Focus on the one and only question that matters: 701 00:31:22,793 --> 00:31:26,535 when Laura Kingsbury decided to pull that trigger, 702 00:31:26,536 --> 00:31:29,234 was she objectively in imminent fear of bodily harm? 703 00:31:29,235 --> 00:31:31,977 ? 704 00:31:36,459 --> 00:31:41,028 - Before you illegally acquired a handgun- 705 00:31:41,029 --> 00:31:44,205 the murder weapon- you didn't make any effort 706 00:31:44,206 --> 00:31:47,121 to obtain non-lethal defense- 707 00:31:47,122 --> 00:31:50,385 uh, pepper spray, one of those security alarms 708 00:31:50,386 --> 00:31:51,560 that goes on your keys? 709 00:31:51,561 --> 00:31:52,866 - No. 710 00:31:52,867 --> 00:31:55,564 - And after you shot Mr. Miller, 711 00:31:55,565 --> 00:31:57,392 you didn't stop to render aid? 712 00:31:57,393 --> 00:31:58,480 - No. 713 00:31:58,481 --> 00:32:00,787 - You didn't call 911? 714 00:32:00,788 --> 00:32:02,049 - No. 715 00:32:02,050 --> 00:32:05,357 - You shot Mr. Miller in the eye, 716 00:32:05,358 --> 00:32:07,968 and then you just ran. 717 00:32:07,969 --> 00:32:09,839 You left him to die. 718 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,494 And you went home and hid the murder weapon 719 00:32:12,495 --> 00:32:16,237 and prayed that no one would ever find you. 720 00:32:16,238 --> 00:32:19,545 - No, I feel terrible that it turned out this way. 721 00:32:19,546 --> 00:32:21,808 - You feel terrible that you killed him 722 00:32:21,809 --> 00:32:23,505 or terrible that you got caught? 723 00:32:23,506 --> 00:32:24,811 - Objection, Your Honor. 724 00:32:24,812 --> 00:32:26,552 - Sustained. 725 00:32:26,553 --> 00:32:30,251 - When you stole Tyler Miller's wallet after you killed him, 726 00:32:30,252 --> 00:32:32,732 your intent was to make this look like a robbery 727 00:32:32,733 --> 00:32:34,995 to throw off the police so you wouldn't get caught, 728 00:32:34,996 --> 00:32:38,259 because you knew what you did was wrong. 729 00:32:38,260 --> 00:32:44,787 - No, because I was afraid that no one would believe me. 730 00:32:44,788 --> 00:32:47,007 No one has ever believed me. 731 00:32:47,008 --> 00:32:49,575 The police didn't believe me when I was raped. 732 00:32:49,576 --> 00:32:51,446 The police didn't believe me when I tried to get 733 00:32:51,447 --> 00:32:53,840 an order of protection against Tyler. 734 00:32:53,841 --> 00:32:55,276 And you don't believe me now. 735 00:32:55,277 --> 00:32:57,235 - Tyler Miller didn't do or say anything threatening 736 00:32:57,236 --> 00:32:59,150 to you the day you killed him? - No. 737 00:32:59,151 --> 00:33:00,586 - No, in fact, he never threatened you. 738 00:33:00,587 --> 00:33:02,327 He never said that out loud- 739 00:33:02,328 --> 00:33:04,851 not in your imagination, but out loud- 740 00:33:04,852 --> 00:33:06,505 that he intended to do you harm? 741 00:33:06,506 --> 00:33:07,985 - No, but he didn't have to. 742 00:33:07,986 --> 00:33:09,551 It was implied. - Implied? 743 00:33:09,552 --> 00:33:10,813 - He was everywhere. 744 00:33:10,814 --> 00:33:12,902 I-I had to do it. 745 00:33:12,903 --> 00:33:15,427 - No, no. 746 00:33:15,428 --> 00:33:18,125 You chose to do it. 747 00:33:18,126 --> 00:33:19,822 There's a big difference. 748 00:33:19,823 --> 00:33:21,955 [tense music] 749 00:33:21,956 --> 00:33:24,392 I have nothing further. 750 00:33:24,393 --> 00:33:26,307 ? 751 00:33:26,308 --> 00:33:27,700 - We'll resume this afternoon. 752 00:33:27,701 --> 00:33:29,702 [gavel bangs] 753 00:33:29,703 --> 00:33:32,661 ? 754 00:33:32,662 --> 00:33:34,141 - You wanted to see me? 755 00:33:34,142 --> 00:33:36,491 - Hear her out, Nolan. 756 00:33:36,492 --> 00:33:42,932 - So I came to ask you and Nick if you would consider 757 00:33:42,933 --> 00:33:45,326 offering Laura a deal. 758 00:33:45,327 --> 00:33:47,459 - Why would we do that? - Come on, Nolan. 759 00:33:47,460 --> 00:33:49,983 Who benefits from Laura sitting in a prison cell? 760 00:33:49,984 --> 00:33:51,724 - The family of the dead man? 761 00:33:51,725 --> 00:33:53,334 I'd start there. 762 00:33:53,335 --> 00:33:55,467 Laura was the victim of a terrible crime. 763 00:33:55,468 --> 00:33:57,164 But you don't get to shoot somebody 764 00:33:57,165 --> 00:33:58,513 who's got a crush on you. 765 00:33:58,514 --> 00:34:00,341 - I agree. 766 00:34:00,342 --> 00:34:02,952 But there are other considerations here. 767 00:34:02,953 --> 00:34:04,171 - Such as? 768 00:34:04,172 --> 00:34:06,043 - It seems "The Journal" has decided 769 00:34:06,044 --> 00:34:07,522 to launch a crusade against the use 770 00:34:07,523 --> 00:34:10,743 of the city's local DNA database. 771 00:34:10,744 --> 00:34:13,180 - You gotta be kidding me. 772 00:34:13,181 --> 00:34:16,402 Oh, how could they possibly have gotten that idea? 773 00:34:18,621 --> 00:34:20,057 - It's hard to say. 774 00:34:20,058 --> 00:34:23,191 - I can't believe you would leak this to the press. 775 00:34:25,717 --> 00:34:30,110 - Manslaughter feels like the right call here. 776 00:34:30,111 --> 00:34:32,373 - Nick? - Ten years. 777 00:34:32,374 --> 00:34:35,376 That'll give the victim's family some closure. 778 00:34:35,377 --> 00:34:37,465 But it still recognizes the history of trauma 779 00:34:37,466 --> 00:34:39,076 that this defendant has suffered 780 00:34:39,077 --> 00:34:40,512 and the way the criminal justice system 781 00:34:40,513 --> 00:34:42,775 has let her down. 782 00:34:42,776 --> 00:34:45,082 Make the deal, Nolan. 783 00:34:45,083 --> 00:34:52,220 ? 784 00:34:57,530 --> 00:35:01,272 - Laura, you're gonna plead guilty 785 00:35:01,273 --> 00:35:03,187 to manslaughter in the first degree. 786 00:35:03,188 --> 00:35:06,104 - We will recommend that you serve ten years. 787 00:35:09,324 --> 00:35:10,629 - No. 788 00:35:10,630 --> 00:35:13,327 - I know that you've been through hell and back 789 00:35:13,328 --> 00:35:16,113 with this, but this is a good deal. 790 00:35:16,114 --> 00:35:17,679 You have my word. 791 00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:20,856 - No, I'm not doing it. 792 00:35:20,857 --> 00:35:24,251 I've spent years trying to reclaim my life and my voice. 793 00:35:24,252 --> 00:35:26,253 That's why I got the gun- so I could try 794 00:35:26,254 --> 00:35:28,951 to feel like a regular person. 795 00:35:28,952 --> 00:35:31,563 Do you know how long it took me to build the courage 796 00:35:31,564 --> 00:35:33,521 just to go for a stupid walk in the park? 797 00:35:33,522 --> 00:35:35,175 - I do. 798 00:35:35,176 --> 00:35:37,177 - If I plead guilty, all of that was for nothing. 799 00:35:37,178 --> 00:35:38,874 - That's not true. 800 00:35:38,875 --> 00:35:42,313 - No, I'm not guilty. 801 00:35:42,314 --> 00:35:44,489 I didn't do anything wrong. 802 00:35:44,490 --> 00:35:49,102 I did what I had to do because he was going to hurt me. 803 00:35:49,103 --> 00:35:50,277 He was. 804 00:35:50,278 --> 00:35:51,887 And if the police had done their job 805 00:35:51,888 --> 00:35:54,760 at any stop along the way, if the system had believed me 806 00:35:54,761 --> 00:35:56,849 when I was raped or when I was being stalked, 807 00:35:56,850 --> 00:35:58,459 we wouldn't be here right now. 808 00:35:58,460 --> 00:36:01,506 - And if you would have called me when he was stalking you, 809 00:36:01,507 --> 00:36:03,334 I could have done something to help you. 810 00:36:03,335 --> 00:36:07,686 - Laura, if we finish out the trial, 811 00:36:07,687 --> 00:36:10,863 the jury is going to convict you. 812 00:36:10,864 --> 00:36:13,431 And not because they don't have sympathy for you 813 00:36:13,432 --> 00:36:15,694 or they don't believe you were scared 814 00:36:15,695 --> 00:36:18,349 but because they know that what you did 815 00:36:18,350 --> 00:36:22,180 in the eyes of the law is murder. 816 00:36:25,705 --> 00:36:27,009 - He's right. 817 00:36:27,010 --> 00:36:28,577 Laura, take the deal. 818 00:36:33,278 --> 00:36:36,497 - Well, we tried our best. - I talked to her. 819 00:36:36,498 --> 00:36:40,632 She said that she'll take Man Two and do five years. 820 00:36:40,633 --> 00:36:43,548 - That's a non-starter. Hell, Man One was a gift. 821 00:36:43,549 --> 00:36:45,680 - A gift? 822 00:36:45,681 --> 00:36:50,163 Do you have any concept of what that woman has been through? 823 00:36:50,164 --> 00:36:51,991 Any concept at all? 824 00:36:51,992 --> 00:36:53,732 - Okay, I have tremendous empathy 825 00:36:53,733 --> 00:36:55,124 for what she has endured, 826 00:36:55,125 --> 00:36:57,997 but the fact remains she killed a man- 827 00:36:57,998 --> 00:36:59,694 an innocent man. 828 00:36:59,695 --> 00:37:03,437 And like it or not, he's the victim. 829 00:37:03,438 --> 00:37:06,136 He is the one we need to be worried about. 830 00:37:11,577 --> 00:37:16,972 We failed Laura Kingsbury, all of us. 831 00:37:16,973 --> 00:37:22,848 We have constructed a world in which too many women- 832 00:37:22,849 --> 00:37:25,285 our mothers, our wives, our daughters- 833 00:37:25,286 --> 00:37:27,374 spend their days looking over their shoulder 834 00:37:27,375 --> 00:37:29,202 wondering who's coming for them next. 835 00:37:29,203 --> 00:37:32,423 And we have to do better. 836 00:37:32,424 --> 00:37:35,904 The issue today is whether Tyler Miller 837 00:37:35,905 --> 00:37:38,429 deserved to die for our sins. 838 00:37:38,430 --> 00:37:42,520 The answer, of course, is no. 839 00:37:42,521 --> 00:37:44,826 The defendant wants you to believe 840 00:37:44,827 --> 00:37:47,089 she acted in self-defense. 841 00:37:47,090 --> 00:37:50,745 For you to agree with her, you must find that a person 842 00:37:50,746 --> 00:37:54,271 in her shoes who fired that shot acted in a manner 843 00:37:54,272 --> 00:37:57,317 that was objectively reasonable. 844 00:37:57,318 --> 00:38:01,887 We've proved to you that was not the case. 845 00:38:01,888 --> 00:38:04,803 Mr. Miller had never hurt her or even threatened her. 846 00:38:04,804 --> 00:38:07,893 He was not armed or advancing towards Ms. Kingsbury. 847 00:38:07,894 --> 00:38:11,331 She was 20 feet away from him when she fired. 848 00:38:11,332 --> 00:38:13,855 She had every opportunity to retreat 849 00:38:13,856 --> 00:38:16,945 without choosing violence, 850 00:38:16,946 --> 00:38:20,384 as the law required. 851 00:38:20,385 --> 00:38:23,517 When the police first found Mr. Miller's notebook 852 00:38:23,518 --> 00:38:26,607 in his office, they figured it was work product 853 00:38:26,608 --> 00:38:29,871 relating to ELI, Mr. Miller's company. 854 00:38:29,872 --> 00:38:31,873 It wasn't. 855 00:38:31,874 --> 00:38:33,962 It was a list- 856 00:38:33,963 --> 00:38:36,617 a long one-of all the things 857 00:38:36,618 --> 00:38:42,189 Mr. Miller loved about the defendant. 858 00:38:42,190 --> 00:38:44,625 "The way you stand on your tiptoes 859 00:38:44,626 --> 00:38:46,453 when you're waiting in line." 860 00:38:46,454 --> 00:38:49,195 So this is a photo taken by Tyler Miller 861 00:38:49,196 --> 00:38:52,067 of the defendant doing exactly that- 862 00:38:52,068 --> 00:38:54,026 standing on her tiptoes, waiting in line. 863 00:38:54,027 --> 00:38:57,857 They were on a date waiting for a movie to start. 864 00:38:59,511 --> 00:39:01,642 "The way you twirl your hair 865 00:39:01,643 --> 00:39:04,166 when you're figuring out what to order"- 866 00:39:04,167 --> 00:39:06,517 also taken by Mr. Miller. 867 00:39:06,518 --> 00:39:11,391 Tyler Miller was guilty 868 00:39:11,392 --> 00:39:14,742 of failing to read certain social cues- 869 00:39:14,743 --> 00:39:19,225 or-or maybe of being a hopeless romantic. 870 00:39:19,226 --> 00:39:24,361 Laura Kingsbury is guilty of murder. 871 00:39:24,362 --> 00:39:27,320 [tense music] 872 00:39:27,321 --> 00:39:34,459 ? 873 00:39:45,870 --> 00:39:49,211 - Has the jury reached a verdict? 874 00:39:49,212 --> 00:39:51,431 - We have, Your Honor. 875 00:39:51,432 --> 00:39:53,520 In the charge of murder in the second degree, 876 00:39:53,521 --> 00:39:57,786 we find the defendant, Laura Kingsbury, guilty. 877 00:39:57,787 --> 00:40:01,876 - Members of the jury, thank you for your service. 878 00:40:01,877 --> 00:40:03,661 [gavel bangs] 879 00:40:03,662 --> 00:40:05,097 - No. 880 00:40:05,098 --> 00:40:12,279 ? 881 00:40:26,598 --> 00:40:30,122 - Congratulations on your guilty verdict. 882 00:40:30,123 --> 00:40:32,430 You got what you wanted, I suppose? 883 00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:37,912 - We're having a press conference tomorrow, 11:00 a.m. 884 00:40:37,913 --> 00:40:40,045 Baxter is going to announce that we are no longer 885 00:40:40,046 --> 00:40:42,482 going to use evidence procured through the local database 886 00:40:42,483 --> 00:40:46,399 to solve unrelated crimes. 887 00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:47,922 - [sighs] 888 00:40:47,923 --> 00:40:52,536 - I know this doesn't affect the outcome of Laura's case. 889 00:40:52,537 --> 00:40:56,540 But we'd like you to be there at the press conference. 890 00:40:56,541 --> 00:40:59,499 [gentle music] 891 00:40:59,500 --> 00:41:01,458 ? 892 00:41:01,459 --> 00:41:04,286 - Yeah. 893 00:41:04,287 --> 00:41:07,376 I'll be there. 894 00:41:07,377 --> 00:41:14,472 ? 895 00:41:49,419 --> 00:41:51,509 [wolf howls] 896 00:41:51,559 --> 00:41:56,109 Repair and Synchronization by Easy Subtitles Synchronizer 1.0.0.0 65208

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