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- [Narrator #1] Racial
inequality, defund the police,
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and now LGBT rights,
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Portland has become
a hot bed of protest.
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- [Narrator #2] Police
declared a riot in downtown.
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- [Narrator #3] There
are all these attacks
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against trans rights
and trans humanity
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that is really
easy to gloss over.
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- [Narrator #4] Soon
as Trump was elected,
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we saw a significant increase
in white supremacist activity
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and misogynist activity.
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A lot of trans and queer
people were being assaulted.
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- [Narrator #5] Officers
say he attacked Jenny
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with a metal pole.
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- [Narrator #6] I don't
wanna end up to dead one day.
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- [Danica] We had heard about
her, that she was trans,
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that she was special forces,
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and that she had a
very specific skillset.
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- [Narrator #7] So we're now
seeing this widespread movement
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to ban women and girls who
are trans from women's sports.
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- You didn't transition
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to win more medals?
- No.
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- [Narrator #5]
Alana McLaughlin,
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the second trans athlete
to compete in MMA.
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- [Narrator #8] The
South Carolina native
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says she has spent
her whole life
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physically resisting violence,
so mixed martial arts.
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- [Narrator #5] The human
rights campaign says
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a record 34 states introduced
anti-trans gender bills
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last year.
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- [Alana] The only
way that trans people
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are gonna have more
freedom and more inclusion
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is if we step up
and make that space,
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clear it out for ourselves,
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because it's definitely
not gonna be given to us.
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- [Campbell] I know it
sounds like outta left field,
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I'm thinking about
bringing Fallon Fox back.
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- [Mike] Well, if I
put my purist hat on,
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yeah, I don't think it's great.
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How old is she?
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She's like over 40 or 40
years old right now, I think.
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- [Tony] I'm on the same
page with you, Mike,
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I'm worried about the optics.
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I do know of Fallon Fox, I
don't know her personally,
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but I know there was a
lot of bad press on that,
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so I'm not sure how
this would pan out.
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- [Mike] It's
definitely gonna create
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an explosive situation, so
I'm uncomfortable with it.
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- [Campbell] You
know, it's funny,
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I know how respectful
you guys are.
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So when you tell me
politely you don't like it,
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you're probably thinking, this
is the dumbest fucking idea
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we have heard on
one of these calls.
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I didn't think Fallon
Fox was over 40.
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Let's find out if she's
still active as a fighter,
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and let's table it.
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I mean, if she's not
fighting and whatever,
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alright?
- Okay, do some homework.
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(Alana slurping)
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- I did not create
the Wikipedia page
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and I'm not quite sure who did.
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I remember I said something on
Twitter about like, you know,
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I'm surprised I don't have one.
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And then it was a couple
days later, one popped up.
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But if you look at the
editing history on that page,
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most of the edits are someone
from an anonymous IP pops on
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and changes all
the gender pronouns
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to he and him just to be shitty,
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and then someone
changes it back.
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- My name is Anne Lieberman,
I use they/them pronouns,
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and I'm the Director
of Policy and Programs
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for Athlete Ally, a
nonprofit organization
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that works to dismantle the
structures of oppression
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that isolate, exclude,
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and endanger LGBTQI+
people in sports.
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Every trans person is different,
we are not a monolith,
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so that's also just
important to say.
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But gender dysphoria is when
someone's deeply held belief
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of their gender does not match
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what is happening
on the outside.
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- No, it was like five or six,
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and I saw there was
some kind of TV show,
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like some expose on
Christine Jorgensen,
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who was she was a trans woman
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back in like the '40s and '50s.
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- Have you finally
achieved full acceptance?
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- Oh, I don't know whether
things would be full acceptance.
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With the intelligence,
of course,
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on the educational level of
colleges and so forth, yes.
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In John Q Public, I'm
not so sure sometimes.
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People are still believing
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that little boys should
have blue booties
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and little girls should
have pink booties.
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- Seeing that and feeling
something click, you know?
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And even then, I didn't
really have the words for it,
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I didn't have the
vocabulary to describe it.
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You know, you know who you
are and nobody else does.
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You know, it's maddening,
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it'll drive you crazy.
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I knew I was a girl,
even if nobody else did.
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You know, keep in mind,
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I grew up in the '80s and '90s.
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I knew it was
dangerous to discuss,
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because we went to
church five times a week,
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and you know, it was a church
where they firmly believed
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that everyone in the world
is going to hell except them.
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My paternal grandfather was gay
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and he died in the AIDS
crisis during the '90s.
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- The threat of aids, just
the very threat of it,
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has changed the lives
of millions of people.
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And you heard from the
talk about prevention,
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about which I wanna
say more in a moment.
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It needs to change
the lives of millions
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of more Americans.
- Probably like between
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the age of like 5 and
10, sometime around then,
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grandpa started
coming around again,
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and I guess dad and grandpa
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sort of repaired
their relationship.
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And then grandpa got sick,
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and then dad took care of
him while he went terminal.
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But even in spite
of that, you know,
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grandpa made it clear
that he had no regrets,
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you know, he was happy
to be who he was.
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But when he passed my parents,
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I don't know if this was
to comfort themselves,
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they were just certain that
he repented before the end.
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You know, and that mindset,
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well, it never sat well with me,
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I wasn't able to
be open about it.
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I don't know if my parents
ever spoke with him about it,
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but I mean, I didn't
intentionally come out to them.
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Like they used to dig
through my belongings,
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they'd read my diary, you know,
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find girl clothes in my dresser
in the back of my closet.
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And because of that, they
took away my bedroom door,
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they took away my
bedroom curtains,
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so you know, every morning
I'd see hundreds of cars
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going by on the
main highway there
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on the way to school
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while I was standing
there in my underwear,
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you know, because they
wanted to make sure
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I wasn't cross-dressing, right?
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They did all these things
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to sort of try to make me
conform to masculinity.
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That kind the focus
of their lives really
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was the church for
most of my life.
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- We know that trans
kids experience
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higher rates of suicidality
and mental health issues,
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especially when they're
not in a welcoming
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and inclusive environment.
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If there is at least
one supportive adult
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in a trans kid's life, that
that increases their ability
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to survive and connect to their
communities exponentially.
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in a- Around the time Ithat
that was five years old,lity
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my parents started to take
me to a nearby chicken farm
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owned by some members
of their church.
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This was an effort
to get me to man up
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by spending time with
their adult sons.
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Instead, one of them raped me
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and continued to
do so for years.
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The only reason they believed me
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is because they went to my
abuser's parents and said,
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"You know, well,
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y'all have raised
five or six boys.
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You know, why is our
child telling these lies?"
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And then they're like,
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"Oh, well,
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this isn't the first
time this has happened,
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so maybe it's not a lie."
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And I know that when
I was being abused,
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I know of at least
three other kids
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that were actively being
abused at the same time,
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and I was the only
one to come forward.
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I was the youngest,
I was the smallest,
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and I was the only
one to come forward.
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I mean, it should
come as no surprise
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that as a kid growing
up in the south,
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a skinny little queer kid
who was kind of femme,
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you know, I got bullied a lot.
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So I would hide out in
the blackberry thicket
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where nobody could
come in after me.
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I was small enough
to get in there
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and that was my safe place,
surrounded by thorns,
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eating berries.
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Yeah, I went down and took
those cognitive tests at the VA,
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and they said I was
still in the top 2%.
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- [Fritz] That's amazing
after all the concussions
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you've had.
- Yeah, well,
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that's the thing,
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I've never been diagnosed
with a concussion,
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I've never had a concussion,
getting hit in the head,
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or blown up, or otherwise, so.
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- [Fritz] Well, lucky you,
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you can see all these
- But still.
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- beautiful flowers.
- Yeah, all the shit
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I got up to when I was
younger and in the army,
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I don't know.
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- Yeah, we're close confidants,
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and Alana's an open book.
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I mean, you ask her,
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she'll tell you,
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we've seen each other
through some hard spots.
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She's been there for me and
I've been there for her.
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I know about her
family of origin,
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I've heard about her
hard years growing up,
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I know about the
abuse she suffered
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as a trans person
in the public eye.
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I like to hold those stories
for her and she holds mine.
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- I was so deep in my own head
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and my own bullshit, just
trying to muddle through things.
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I was extremely
depressed, I was suicidal,
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you know, all I could
think about was my gender,
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who I was gonna be, the
abuse that I'd suffered.
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People knew I was smart, but
they knew something was wrong,
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but nobody ever did
anything about it.
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Athletics kind of saved me.
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Basically, one of
the girls on my track
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and cross country team,
she got scholarships
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to Newberry College
in South Carolina,
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and they were actively
recruiting other runners,
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and she gave them my name
and then they recruited me.
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And I ran two seasons
at Newberry College
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before people were homophobic
and transphobic towards me.
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And I was talking to my mom,
this was what it was about.
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I was like, these feelings
have not gone away.
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You know, I told my parents
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that the whole
conversion therapy again
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and cutting me off
from any support
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wasn't gonna work for me,
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so maybe I should join the
army instead, and you know,
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get myself killed at war.
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And then my mom said, "Maybe
the army's not a bad idea."
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- An army of one.
- Yeah, you know,
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I was without direction.
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All I gave a shit about was
that I was sad, and angry,
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and nobody cared about me.
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So when I decided
to join the army,
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it absolutely was not out
of any patriotic duty.
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I don't know what
it is that drives me
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to do these things, but it's,
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you know, if I was
gonna be a soldier,
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I was gonna be one
of the best soldiers.
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I wasn't gonna settle for
being a cook or a mechanic.
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And if I was gonna go to combat,
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I was gonna be one
of the best at it.
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(gunshots banging)
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Anybody volunteering for
special forces, to an extent,
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they are a different breed.
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They're there for some
reason or another,
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they're driven by something,
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and I think some of
them it's trauma,
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some of it it's just
toxic masculinity,
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like, this is how you be a man,
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for whatever reason, I mean,
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that's kind of why I was there.
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I was at a tipping point
and I knew I was gonna die
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one way or another if
I didn't transition.
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You know, we were on
exfil from Afghanistan,
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we were flying in a
Black Hawk from our FOB
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that we'd been at into Qalat,
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what they call map of the earth,
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so we were flying low down in
a valley in the helicopter.
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And, you know,
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I'd gone through this
whole deployment,
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been shot at and blown up,
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and I was still here, you know,
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worst I'd had was just
a couple scratches,
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you know, piece of
shrapnel in my hip,
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like, you know,
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being the medic on the team,
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I didn't even report that,
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I didn't get my purple heart
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because I didn't want that
enemy marksmanship badge.
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But we were flying
in that helicopter,
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and I thought about jumping.
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And I don't know,
I can't remember
283
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if it was my team
sergeant or my captain,
284
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and I don't know if they
just had a gut feeling
285
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or if I actually like moved
towards the open door.
286
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I don't remember what
the fuck happened,
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but I know that somebody
like grabbed me and pulled me
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and held me up against
the wall of the aircraft
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until I made eye contact.
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And that was.
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(suspenseful music)
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I was so hopeless, you know?
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And I've had people tell me,
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"Oh, you're so brave
for doing this."
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And it wasn't bravery,
it was desperation.
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It was, I'm gonna die
if I don't do this,
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either by my own hand
or by someone else's.
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And I tried six years in the
military, I did special forces,
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I saw combat and was better at
killing than I was at dying.
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So yeah, I went up to Asheville,
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North Carolina, and I
spent close to a year
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in a little cabin outside
of Weaverville by myself.
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I had been trying
to ease into it.
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And then my birthday
in 2012, I was like,
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"Fuck it, I have to do this."
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And easing in isn't
working, didn't work.
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So I jumped in feet first.
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Hormone therapy and
social transition.
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So, you know,
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I stopped wearing
men's clothing.
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But no, I graduated,
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got my art degree,
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and I went to work
for a blacksmith shop
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back in Asheville or
outside of Asheville.
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(suspenseful music)
(hammer banging)
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Then my friend Sophia talked me
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into moving out
here to Portland.
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You know, I'd never
been here before,
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sight unseen.
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Frankly, I honestly believe
that if I had not been trans,
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I'd have been in the
UFC by 2011 or 2012
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after I got outta the Army.
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But that didn't seem like that
was ever gonna be possible
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if I couldn't have surgery,
325
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and I didn't think I was
ever gonna have surgery.
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It wasn't until 2016, within
a couple months of being here,
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someone that I
knew from a forum,
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an old trans message
board on the internet,
329
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she got ahold of me
and she was like,
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"Hey, you know,
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I know this doctor,
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this guy out in
Thailand who used to run
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a gender transition clinic."
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So the deal was they give me
all the surgeries, you know,
335
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bottom surgery, top
surgery, facial surgery.
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And then in return,
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they get to use my
photos for advertisement.
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I jumped at the
chance, you know?
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And she's like, "Hey, you know,
340
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don't feel like you
have to take this,
341
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because it's gonna be scary
and it's gonna be lonely,
342
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and it is dangerous."
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Because I got top
surgery, bottom surgery,
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and facial surgery within
a week of each other.
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I ended up losing a lot of blood
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and had to have a transfusion,
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I'm guessing I had
a bleeder somewhere.
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After I got surgery, the
clinic ended up going under.
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The guy that put it all
together, I was told,
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'Oh, he's wanted
by Interpol now."
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After surgery, I was an
emotional rollercoaster.
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I apologized to
all of my friends
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that were with me at that time
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who saw the nightmare
person I was
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for a good six
months after that.
356
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I was hard to deal with.
357
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I took some of these
important moments
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in my life and put them online.
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My social media
presence kicked off
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back in the heyday of
Tumblr, a blogging website
361
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where I chronicled my transition
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00:15:50,983 --> 00:15:52,751
and made some of my
first serious forays
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into engaging with
the trans community.
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(video beeping)
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(suspenseful music)
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This is where I dipped my toe
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in learning how to
be a baby activist
368
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with local orgs like the
UNCA Feminist Collective.
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(suspenseful music)
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With the election of Donald
Trump, I saw a real threat,
371
00:16:11,403 --> 00:16:15,007
not only to the LGBTQ community,
but minorities everywhere.
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Eventually Tumblr gave way
to Instagram and Twitter.
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- We had heard about
her, like there was this
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like trantifa super soldier
who came to Portland.
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And so we reached out to her,
376
00:16:30,089 --> 00:16:32,658
'cause we do a community
defense project.
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00:16:32,658 --> 00:16:34,760
- So the past
three to five years
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have been the most violent
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and scary in the history of
the US for LGBTQI+ people.
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Hundreds and hundreds
of pieces of legislation
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directly targeting
LGBTQI+ communities
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at the state level,
at the federal level.
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And the majority
of that legislation
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has been targeting
transgender people.
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- I got very politically active.
386
00:17:00,352 --> 00:17:02,087
And then, you know,
387
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anybody that's watched the
news reports about Portland
388
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for the past six
years, that's Portland.
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(suspenseful music)
(people yelling)
390
00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:24,443
(gentle instrumental music)
(air whooshing)
391
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Everyone's favorite, the
magic fairy wand over here.
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When I made it and displayed it,
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I had it wrapped with
pink ribbons and it
was really pretty.
394
00:17:31,417 --> 00:17:34,553
But in recent years it's
been used for stress relief.
395
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And usually around
this time of year
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we go and smash up pumpkins.
397
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I used to call myself an artist,
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I would like to call
myself an artist,
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00:17:41,293 --> 00:17:43,762
but I can't afford space
in Portland to do that.
400
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So it's mostly complete,
401
00:17:45,631 --> 00:17:48,133
but I want to
build a really big,
402
00:17:48,133 --> 00:17:50,936
ridiculous ostentatious
frame around it.
403
00:17:50,936 --> 00:17:54,606
Back in the '30s, Mussolini's
fascist party headquarters,
404
00:17:54,606 --> 00:17:56,975
this was the front
of the building,
405
00:17:56,975 --> 00:17:59,812
si being the Italian
word for yes,
406
00:17:59,812 --> 00:18:02,014
and it's just Mussolini's face.
407
00:18:02,014 --> 00:18:05,050
I changed si to just dollar
signs and exclamation points,
408
00:18:05,050 --> 00:18:08,587
because Donald Trump is
a silver spoon con man.
409
00:18:08,587 --> 00:18:10,522
I make no secret of
the fact that people
410
00:18:10,522 --> 00:18:13,025
that openly say they
hate people like me
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and want me dead, I
hate them right back.
412
00:18:15,027 --> 00:18:16,762
- Alana does have
a tough exterior.
413
00:18:16,762 --> 00:18:20,065
She's seen all sorts of
action from Afghanistan
414
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to even here on the
streets of Portland.
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00:18:21,733 --> 00:18:23,202
But you know, underneath it,
416
00:18:23,202 --> 00:18:25,604
she's a squishmallow,
she is a little kitten
417
00:18:25,604 --> 00:18:26,972
who wants to curl
up by your side,
418
00:18:26,972 --> 00:18:29,241
get head scratches, and
eat snacks with you.
419
00:18:29,241 --> 00:18:31,076
- [Alana] Okay, the fountain
is seriously looking
420
00:18:31,076 --> 00:18:32,878
very inviting right now.
- Yeah, it's beautiful.
421
00:18:32,878 --> 00:18:34,513
- My therapist wrote
in support of me
422
00:18:34,513 --> 00:18:36,115
when I was filing my
claim from the VA,
423
00:18:36,115 --> 00:18:38,884
that I have one of the worst
cases of PTSD she's ever seen.
424
00:18:38,884 --> 00:18:41,253
And for me it's,
it's not just PTSD,
425
00:18:41,253 --> 00:18:45,190
it's complex PTSD, because it
started when I was very young.
426
00:18:45,190 --> 00:18:48,760
You know, and it's the kind of
thing that happens to people
427
00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:51,530
who are put in
traumatic situations
428
00:18:51,530 --> 00:18:53,398
that are long-term
and inescapable.
429
00:18:53,398 --> 00:18:58,604
- Even with her complex trauma,
with her combat background.
430
00:18:59,271 --> 00:19:01,206
(sirens wailing)
431
00:19:01,206 --> 00:19:04,042
(gunshots banging)
432
00:19:08,113 --> 00:19:10,516
- [Alana] This is real
fucking good for my PTSD.
433
00:19:13,785 --> 00:19:16,955
- Being trans and
living in this society,
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she is actively working
on her own mental health.
435
00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:23,996
- She's a person who came
from a world of violence.
436
00:19:23,996 --> 00:19:27,399
And for her to have that,
the thing that honed her,
437
00:19:27,399 --> 00:19:29,301
and turned it into
something that's challenging
438
00:19:29,301 --> 00:19:31,570
and positive for her,
I think is amazing.
439
00:19:31,570 --> 00:19:33,105
- You know, by
the time I was 10,
440
00:19:33,105 --> 00:19:34,973
you know, I'd spent
half of my life
441
00:19:34,973 --> 00:19:36,675
being someone's
personal sex toy.
442
00:19:40,045 --> 00:19:43,081
I'm surprised I'm in any way
a functional human being.
443
00:19:44,616 --> 00:19:47,386
'Cause most of the time people
don't come back from that.
444
00:19:47,386 --> 00:19:48,754
(suspenseful music)
445
00:19:48,754 --> 00:19:50,923
I haven't spoken to
my family in years.
446
00:19:50,923 --> 00:19:53,091
Their false hope of
conversion is long gone.
447
00:19:54,459 --> 00:19:55,727
Sometimes I wonder
if they check in
448
00:19:55,727 --> 00:19:57,563
on my social feeds to
see what I'm up to.
449
00:19:57,563 --> 00:19:58,730
But I have to remind myself
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00:19:58,730 --> 00:20:00,866
of the reality of
this situation.
451
00:20:00,866 --> 00:20:02,401
Yeah, I know my
story makes me sound
452
00:20:02,401 --> 00:20:05,037
like an anime character brought
to life, but what can I say?
453
00:20:05,037 --> 00:20:07,773
It's my story and I'm
the one that lived it.
454
00:20:07,773 --> 00:20:09,241
I'm a tough as
nails, candy coated,
455
00:20:09,241 --> 00:20:11,877
hard femme, trantifa
super soldier.
456
00:20:11,877 --> 00:20:13,078
(suspenseful music)
457
00:20:13,078 --> 00:20:13,845
I'm Lady Feral.
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00:20:20,419 --> 00:20:21,620
(suspenseful music)
459
00:20:21,620 --> 00:20:22,554
- [Campbell] This
is a pretty good way
460
00:20:22,554 --> 00:20:24,790
to jumpstart a lot of interest.
461
00:20:24,790 --> 00:20:27,526
I mean, it's if they
don't care about us,
462
00:20:27,526 --> 00:20:29,494
that I think is the problem.
463
00:20:29,494 --> 00:20:30,796
- [Tony] I mean,
I understand that,
464
00:20:30,796 --> 00:20:32,931
Campbell, I'm just
worried about legitimacy.
465
00:20:32,931 --> 00:20:35,033
You know, we're an up
and coming organization,
466
00:20:35,033 --> 00:20:37,469
I think we're headed
for a train wreck.
467
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- I don't.
- Can I speak?
468
00:20:39,738 --> 00:20:41,306
- [Campbell] Yeah,
go ahead, Mike.
469
00:20:41,306 --> 00:20:43,675
- [Mike] Alright,
so here's the deal.
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You know, I got the
low down on Fallon,
471
00:20:45,777 --> 00:20:48,180
and she's outta action,
she's not in shape,
472
00:20:48,180 --> 00:20:51,984
and she's kind of
aged out of the sport.
473
00:20:51,984 --> 00:20:56,888
But she did turn me on to
another transgender fighter
474
00:20:59,658 --> 00:21:01,893
who has a really
crazy story, actually.
475
00:21:03,095 --> 00:21:05,063
You know, before she
made the transition,
476
00:21:05,063 --> 00:21:08,600
she was in the special forces.
477
00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:13,338
And now she makes swords.
478
00:21:13,338 --> 00:21:15,607
- She makes swords?
- That's right,
479
00:21:15,607 --> 00:21:17,009
she makes swords, actual swords.
480
00:21:17,009 --> 00:21:18,810
If we're going down this path,
481
00:21:18,810 --> 00:21:21,246
I think she's a much better fit,
482
00:21:21,246 --> 00:21:25,317
you know, regardless of
Fallon's circumstances.
483
00:21:25,317 --> 00:21:26,418
- [Campbell] I just
want to be clear
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on what the TV gods
485
00:21:27,886 --> 00:21:29,288
are offering us.
- Yep.
486
00:21:29,288 --> 00:21:30,956
- [Campbell] This is
a fucking no brainer.
487
00:21:30,956 --> 00:21:34,226
Alright.
- We are an MMA organization,
488
00:21:34,226 --> 00:21:37,362
not the United Nations,
just remember that.
489
00:21:37,362 --> 00:21:38,830
(Campbell laughing)
490
00:21:38,830 --> 00:21:40,165
- I forgot.
- I don't even know
491
00:21:40,165 --> 00:21:41,667
what that means, but it's funny.
492
00:21:41,667 --> 00:21:43,335
Look, Tony, I hear you.
493
00:21:44,636 --> 00:21:46,371
Let's find out some more.
494
00:21:46,371 --> 00:21:48,840
What is this woman's name?
495
00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:51,343
- [Tony] Her name
is Alana McLaughlin.
496
00:21:52,577 --> 00:21:56,114
(fighters grunting)
497
00:21:56,114 --> 00:21:59,151
- So that's what you
call karate, hey?
498
00:21:59,151 --> 00:22:01,186
- In the '80s and '90s, I
really got into Bruce Lee.
499
00:22:01,186 --> 00:22:03,155
Kind of a crush, to be honest,
500
00:22:03,155 --> 00:22:04,589
because nobody else
looked like that
501
00:22:04,589 --> 00:22:06,091
and nobody else moved like that.
502
00:22:07,059 --> 00:22:08,393
You know, you go back and watch
503
00:22:08,393 --> 00:22:10,696
any of the contemporary
movies from that era,
504
00:22:10,696 --> 00:22:12,030
Bruce was the only one
505
00:22:12,030 --> 00:22:15,867
that had that kind
of onscreen charisma.
506
00:22:15,867 --> 00:22:18,603
It was the closest I was
ever allowed to dancing.
507
00:22:18,603 --> 00:22:21,173
You know, it was an
expression of the human body
508
00:22:21,173 --> 00:22:25,243
that I was at least
tangentially allowed to access.
509
00:22:25,243 --> 00:22:26,645
You know, my sister's
danced ballet,
510
00:22:26,645 --> 00:22:27,879
and I wasn't allowed.
511
00:22:27,879 --> 00:22:29,414
You know, running
was my first love
512
00:22:29,414 --> 00:22:30,716
when it came to athletics.
513
00:22:30,716 --> 00:22:34,653
But mixed martial arts, just
martial arts in general,
514
00:22:34,653 --> 00:22:38,924
it's a way to sort of
re-inhabit and reclaim my body.
515
00:22:38,924 --> 00:22:41,727
You know, it lets
me feel like I have
516
00:22:41,727 --> 00:22:43,228
some measure of control
517
00:22:43,228 --> 00:22:45,430
that I might not otherwise
feel that I have.
518
00:22:47,299 --> 00:22:48,300
♪ Nobody
519
00:22:48,300 --> 00:22:49,367
♪ No, no, no
520
00:22:49,367 --> 00:22:51,703
♪ Nobody, nobody
does it like me ♪
521
00:22:51,703 --> 00:22:52,704
♪ Nobody
522
00:22:52,704 --> 00:22:53,705
♪ No, no, no
523
00:22:53,705 --> 00:22:55,941
♪ Nobody
524
00:22:55,941 --> 00:22:57,275
(upbeat music)
(singers vocalizing)
525
00:22:57,275 --> 00:22:59,044
- [Interviewer #1] Hey,
Fallon Fox, MMA fighter,
526
00:22:59,044 --> 00:23:00,946
the transgender one.
527
00:23:00,946 --> 00:23:01,747
- Yeah.
- Is trying to fight
528
00:23:01,747 --> 00:23:03,315
in the UFC.
529
00:23:03,315 --> 00:23:04,516
We're not sure if they wanna
welcome her into the UFC.
530
00:23:04,516 --> 00:23:06,718
Would you welcome her
into the wrestling?
531
00:23:06,718 --> 00:23:07,619
- I'll whip her,
532
00:23:07,619 --> 00:23:08,920
I mean, I'll whip him.
533
00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:10,122
I mean.
- You'll whip him,
534
00:23:10,122 --> 00:23:10,722
you'll whip her or him?
- I'll whip her.
535
00:23:10,722 --> 00:23:12,190
I'm confused.
536
00:23:12,190 --> 00:23:13,992
- Well, regardless of.
- Have dinner, submission.
537
00:23:13,992 --> 00:23:17,028
- [Interviewer #2] You think
you can knock out Fallon Fox?
538
00:23:17,028 --> 00:23:18,597
- I can knock out on
anyone in the world.
539
00:23:18,597 --> 00:23:20,899
(upbeat music)
540
00:23:20,899 --> 00:23:22,534
- Is having a long
over due conversation
541
00:23:22,534 --> 00:23:23,769
around transgender issues,
542
00:23:23,769 --> 00:23:26,171
recently inspired by the
likes of Caitlyn Jenner
543
00:23:26,171 --> 00:23:28,373
and Laverne Cox in
"Orange is the New Black".
544
00:23:28,373 --> 00:23:32,310
Among the ranks of transgender
pioneers is Fallon Fox,
545
00:23:32,310 --> 00:23:36,248
the first openly transgender
athlete in the history of MMA.
546
00:23:36,248 --> 00:23:38,083
And she joins us this morning.
547
00:23:38,083 --> 00:23:39,718
Good morning, Fallon.
548
00:23:39,718 --> 00:23:40,786
So good to See you.
549
00:23:40,786 --> 00:23:42,120
(upbeat music)
550
00:23:42,120 --> 00:23:43,488
- The first round.
- Yeah.
551
00:23:43,488 --> 00:23:45,657
Allanna challenges and
Fallon gets her down,
552
00:23:45,657 --> 00:23:47,626
the earliest we've seen
so far in the fight.
553
00:23:47,626 --> 00:23:50,662
- Yeah, got her throat.
- Oh, and Allanna Jones
554
00:23:50,662 --> 00:23:52,230
taps out.
555
00:23:52,230 --> 00:23:54,766
A knee across the
throat from Fallon Fox,
556
00:23:54,766 --> 00:23:55,867
Allanna Jones taps out in
the third and final round.
557
00:23:58,837 --> 00:24:00,906
Fallon Fox comes out on top.
558
00:24:00,906 --> 00:24:03,408
(crowds cheering)
(upbeat music)
559
00:24:03,408 --> 00:24:06,611
- Fallon transcends
the sport she was in.
560
00:24:06,611 --> 00:24:08,246
She transcends MMA.
561
00:24:08,246 --> 00:24:11,716
You cannot do this story
and not talk about her.
562
00:24:11,716 --> 00:24:14,252
In many ways, Fallon is,
563
00:24:14,252 --> 00:24:18,657
if you built a Mount
Rushmore of trans people,
564
00:24:18,657 --> 00:24:22,093
you have to make a strong
case for her being on it
565
00:24:22,093 --> 00:24:25,931
because of what she
did, and how she did it,
566
00:24:25,931 --> 00:24:27,866
and the hits that
she took to do it.
567
00:24:27,866 --> 00:24:29,434
- More than anything,
568
00:24:29,434 --> 00:24:33,038
you admired her for putting
herself in this position.
569
00:24:33,038 --> 00:24:34,206
Somebody's gotta be first,
570
00:24:34,206 --> 00:24:36,007
we've seen it in
every walk of life.
571
00:24:36,007 --> 00:24:39,010
It's always gonna be difficult,
it certainly was for her.
572
00:24:39,010 --> 00:24:42,314
- It's not her undefeated record
that has everyone talking.
573
00:24:42,314 --> 00:24:45,450
The headline is the fact
that Fallon was born a man.
574
00:24:45,450 --> 00:24:48,386
Fallon kept her history private
until breaking the story
575
00:24:48,386 --> 00:24:51,356
to "Sports Illustrated's"
Loretta Hunt this week.
576
00:24:51,356 --> 00:24:53,358
- So the first time around,
577
00:24:53,358 --> 00:24:55,827
no one knew that
she was transgender.
578
00:24:55,827 --> 00:24:58,497
It wasn't until the second
time that we found out,
579
00:24:58,497 --> 00:25:00,365
or she came out
and said publicly,
580
00:25:00,365 --> 00:25:02,400
that she was a
transgender fighter.
581
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:04,236
- My very first fight
was back in '99.
582
00:25:04,236 --> 00:25:06,171
So it's like, that's early,
583
00:25:06,171 --> 00:25:07,405
early days of the sport.
584
00:25:07,405 --> 00:25:08,673
Accomplished quite
a lot, you know,
585
00:25:08,673 --> 00:25:11,409
I had an amazing career,
won five world titles.
586
00:25:11,409 --> 00:25:15,280
I'm strongly against
trans competing in MMA.
587
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:16,848
- [Alana] Okay, we
need to pause here,
588
00:25:16,848 --> 00:25:19,684
so I can tell you exactly
who Jake Shields is.
589
00:25:19,684 --> 00:25:22,420
He's a misogynist,
racist, anti-queer,
590
00:25:22,420 --> 00:25:24,556
anti-vax conspiracy theorist.
591
00:25:24,556 --> 00:25:26,191
He thinks climate
change is fake,
592
00:25:26,191 --> 00:25:27,893
that queer people are
destroying civilization,
593
00:25:27,893 --> 00:25:30,829
and that women are sex
objects and baby factories.
594
00:25:30,829 --> 00:25:32,631
This is the man that
suggested Greta Thunberg
595
00:25:32,631 --> 00:25:34,666
just needed a proper
smashing from Andrew Tate
596
00:25:34,666 --> 00:25:38,069
to knock it off with her crazy
feminist climate activism.
597
00:25:38,069 --> 00:25:39,838
He's going to shriek
that trans athletes
598
00:25:39,838 --> 00:25:41,539
are dominating women's sports,
599
00:25:41,539 --> 00:25:44,476
which he acknowledges he
doesn't care about, by the way.
600
00:25:44,476 --> 00:25:46,177
How can we believe he
wants to protect women
601
00:25:46,177 --> 00:25:47,712
and daughters when
he thinks feminists
602
00:25:47,712 --> 00:25:49,247
just need a good fucking.
603
00:25:49,247 --> 00:25:50,916
- Unless they're going
against other trans.
604
00:25:50,916 --> 00:25:53,885
Fallon Fox wasn't
a good fighter, but
she was just bigger,
605
00:25:53,885 --> 00:25:55,654
she, he, whatever it was,
606
00:25:55,654 --> 00:25:57,022
bigger and stronger than
the girls she was fighting.
607
00:25:57,022 --> 00:25:58,823
She hid the fact
that she was a man.
608
00:25:58,823 --> 00:25:59,891
I think at that time period,
609
00:25:59,891 --> 00:26:01,293
people weren't following
trans athletes,
610
00:26:01,293 --> 00:26:02,794
it was kind of a new thing.
611
00:26:02,794 --> 00:26:05,096
Now it's everywhere, it's
being pushed in every sport.
612
00:26:05,096 --> 00:26:07,999
I think the vast majority of
people don't agree with it,
613
00:26:07,999 --> 00:26:09,834
but they're scared to speak out.
614
00:26:09,834 --> 00:26:11,436
- I think it has
gotten more intense
615
00:26:11,436 --> 00:26:13,605
and I think it's
due to the politics.
616
00:26:13,605 --> 00:26:16,308
I think it's because of
the political division
617
00:26:16,308 --> 00:26:18,076
that the country is facing,
618
00:26:18,076 --> 00:26:20,478
we didn't have
that 10 years ago.
619
00:26:20,478 --> 00:26:23,815
It was more of if or
why she should fight.
620
00:26:23,815 --> 00:26:25,951
But now they're bringing in
more of the politics into it.
621
00:26:25,951 --> 00:26:29,354
- I think over the last
10 years in social media
622
00:26:29,354 --> 00:26:30,889
has certainly
heightened all issues.
623
00:26:30,889 --> 00:26:33,692
So why would this
one not be included?
624
00:26:33,692 --> 00:26:38,730
However, it also heightens
the amount of notoriety,
625
00:26:39,397 --> 00:26:40,498
acceptability too.
626
00:26:40,498 --> 00:26:42,334
You know, there's
a yin and yang,
627
00:26:42,334 --> 00:26:44,135
with social media, you know,
628
00:26:44,135 --> 00:26:45,737
you get a lot of people know
about something real quick.
629
00:26:45,737 --> 00:26:47,105
And look, I mean,
630
00:26:47,105 --> 00:26:49,074
we weren't even talking
about athletes that were gay
631
00:26:49,074 --> 00:26:50,475
up until four or five years ago.
632
00:26:50,475 --> 00:26:52,377
- In some ways
it's gotten better
633
00:26:52,377 --> 00:26:55,780
in that more and
more people are out,
634
00:26:55,780 --> 00:26:58,850
more and more people feel safe
to come out and move forward.
635
00:26:58,850 --> 00:27:01,987
We are building the society
I would've liked to have had
636
00:27:01,987 --> 00:27:03,588
when I was 15, 16 years old.
637
00:27:03,588 --> 00:27:04,856
- The younger generation
638
00:27:04,856 --> 00:27:09,027
is just far more
open and inclusive.
639
00:27:09,027 --> 00:27:12,163
What we're seeing in
terms of the pushback
640
00:27:12,163 --> 00:27:16,034
is so rarely with young people,
it's mostly with adults.
641
00:27:16,034 --> 00:27:17,435
- Every single girl in fighting
642
00:27:17,435 --> 00:27:21,006
I've talked to is strongly
against trans and trans MMA.
643
00:27:21,006 --> 00:27:23,575
I think girls don't like
getting involved with politics,
644
00:27:23,575 --> 00:27:25,076
rightfully so, it's
kind of a man's job,
645
00:27:25,076 --> 00:27:26,845
so they really don't
like speaking up on it.
646
00:27:26,845 --> 00:27:28,880
But it's unfortunately
in this situation,
647
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:30,215
I think they're kind of cornered
648
00:27:30,215 --> 00:27:31,216
where they're gonna have
to start speaking out.
649
00:27:31,216 --> 00:27:32,684
- I think it comes from naivety.
650
00:27:32,684 --> 00:27:34,753
I think a lot of men
have not really watched
651
00:27:34,753 --> 00:27:36,888
a lot of women athlete events.
652
00:27:36,888 --> 00:27:39,591
There's always positives and
there's always negatives.
653
00:27:39,591 --> 00:27:42,494
And the tradition is to
focus on the negatives.
654
00:27:42,494 --> 00:27:44,696
- The problem is though, when
you make progress like that,
655
00:27:44,696 --> 00:27:46,564
there's always going
to be backlash.
656
00:27:46,564 --> 00:27:49,034
And oftentimes,
history has shown us,
657
00:27:49,034 --> 00:27:53,238
that that backlash can be very
violent, can be very sudden,
658
00:27:53,238 --> 00:27:55,106
and can be very panicked.
659
00:27:55,106 --> 00:27:56,408
Take it as a sign of hope,
660
00:27:56,408 --> 00:27:57,709
because that's a symbol
661
00:27:57,709 --> 00:27:59,244
that they're losing
and they know it,
662
00:27:59,244 --> 00:28:01,846
and they need one last
shot at the buzzer.
663
00:28:01,846 --> 00:28:05,617
- [Announcer #1] Fallon
"Queen of Swords" Fox.
664
00:28:05,617 --> 00:28:08,386
- Fallon Fox and I had
connected on social media
665
00:28:08,386 --> 00:28:11,122
like back in like 2014, 2013,
666
00:28:11,122 --> 00:28:12,123
something like that.
667
00:28:12,123 --> 00:28:14,359
And it was mostly
because, you know,
668
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:17,295
there for a while if you
were trans on the internet,
669
00:28:17,295 --> 00:28:19,431
it was a pretty small community.
670
00:28:19,431 --> 00:28:21,132
And then someone
who was, you know,
671
00:28:21,132 --> 00:28:23,301
I wasn't as prominent
as Fallon was,
672
00:28:23,301 --> 00:28:24,936
but there's not
673
00:28:24,936 --> 00:28:28,039
a lot of former special
forces trans women either.
674
00:28:28,039 --> 00:28:31,209
So I had gotten a
little bit of attention,
675
00:28:31,209 --> 00:28:32,744
like recognition for that.
676
00:28:32,744 --> 00:28:35,046
So Fallon and I
knew of each other.
677
00:28:35,046 --> 00:28:36,514
And I think I had
actually told Fallon
678
00:28:36,514 --> 00:28:38,183
I wanted to make her a sword,
679
00:28:38,183 --> 00:28:39,884
'cause you know, her
name for fighting,
680
00:28:39,884 --> 00:28:41,986
you know, was the
Queen of Swords.
681
00:28:41,986 --> 00:28:44,222
- She appreciated my fighting
682
00:28:44,222 --> 00:28:47,525
and we became Facebook
friends, and you know,
683
00:28:47,525 --> 00:28:48,760
we've been chatting ever since.
684
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:49,728
- And she's like, "You know,
685
00:28:49,728 --> 00:28:50,695
you could do this?"
686
00:28:50,695 --> 00:28:52,230
It was 2020, I think,
687
00:28:52,230 --> 00:28:54,899
it was like right
before the pandemic hit,
688
00:28:55,700 --> 00:28:57,836
right before COVID 19.
689
00:28:57,836 --> 00:28:59,037
I'd flown out to Chicago
690
00:28:59,037 --> 00:29:00,338
and I trained with
her a little bit,
691
00:29:00,338 --> 00:29:03,608
and I think she was
feeling me out to see
692
00:29:03,608 --> 00:29:05,009
what kind of potential I had.
693
00:29:06,411 --> 00:29:10,915
- The more minorities that
you have competing in a sport,
694
00:29:12,784 --> 00:29:14,919
such as this situation
695
00:29:14,919 --> 00:29:19,124
where people like are hating
against the minority group,
696
00:29:19,124 --> 00:29:22,093
it's better to have
more minority groups
697
00:29:22,093 --> 00:29:23,161
out there competing.
698
00:29:23,161 --> 00:29:26,030
And that way people
can see, you know,
699
00:29:26,030 --> 00:29:27,866
that they're just
like everybody else
700
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:30,001
and that they belong
in this sport.
701
00:29:31,169 --> 00:29:33,071
- [Narrator #9] The
17-year-old Dallas area
702
00:29:33,071 --> 00:29:34,405
high school student won
the title of champion
703
00:29:34,405 --> 00:29:36,541
in the girls state wrestling
competition Saturday.
704
00:29:36,541 --> 00:29:38,343
A mix of cheers and boos
705
00:29:38,343 --> 00:29:41,379
directed at the wrestler
as he fell to his knees.
706
00:29:41,379 --> 00:29:42,847
(suspenseful music)
707
00:29:42,847 --> 00:29:46,785
- I want trans girls that
are in like school now,
708
00:29:46,785 --> 00:29:49,020
I want everyone
that comes after me
709
00:29:49,020 --> 00:29:50,955
to not have to deal with
the same fucking bullshit
710
00:29:50,955 --> 00:29:52,557
I've had to deal with.
711
00:29:52,557 --> 00:29:53,758
Like, I want a better world
712
00:29:53,758 --> 00:29:55,426
for the people
that come after me.
713
00:29:55,426 --> 00:29:58,530
And apparently that's a weird
thing to want these days.
714
00:29:58,530 --> 00:30:00,999
You know, in American culture
715
00:30:00,999 --> 00:30:02,400
we've got this
idea of pulling up
716
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:03,568
the fucking ladder behind us.
717
00:30:03,568 --> 00:30:04,769
You know, you look at,
718
00:30:05,837 --> 00:30:07,472
you know, I don't
want to be like,
719
00:30:07,472 --> 00:30:08,673
oh, you know,
720
00:30:08,673 --> 00:30:10,041
the baby boomers
ruined everything.
721
00:30:10,041 --> 00:30:13,845
But I mean, who can
afford a house now?
722
00:30:13,845 --> 00:30:15,213
You know, nobody.
723
00:30:15,213 --> 00:30:16,548
You know, the
climate's collapsing,
724
00:30:16,548 --> 00:30:18,183
the world's on
fire and flooding,
725
00:30:18,183 --> 00:30:19,817
and we're just
supposed to be okay
726
00:30:19,817 --> 00:30:22,287
with this and keep
going to work.
727
00:30:22,287 --> 00:30:24,189
You know, like, this is the
kind of shit that pisses me off.
728
00:30:24,189 --> 00:30:27,192
I wanna see a better
world when I'm gone.
729
00:30:30,728 --> 00:30:34,766
(presenter speaking in Spanish)
730
00:30:40,638 --> 00:30:45,310
(upbeat music)
(crowds yelling)
731
00:30:48,112 --> 00:30:49,314
- [Narrator #10] Two
great fighters right here.
732
00:30:49,314 --> 00:30:51,616
Two guys putting
it all out there.
733
00:30:51,616 --> 00:30:56,354
(presenter speaking in Spanish)
734
00:30:56,354 --> 00:30:59,224
(crowds yelling)
735
00:31:00,291 --> 00:31:02,493
- Holy cow.
- Cunningham's come alive,
736
00:31:02,493 --> 00:31:04,796
like Peter Frampton.
737
00:31:04,796 --> 00:31:09,801
(upbeat music)
(crowds yelling)
738
00:31:10,702 --> 00:31:11,636
- I really created this company
739
00:31:11,636 --> 00:31:14,739
to give people an opportunity.
740
00:31:14,739 --> 00:31:18,743
And there were a number of
athletes, a number of countries,
741
00:31:18,743 --> 00:31:20,678
a number of groups of people
742
00:31:20,678 --> 00:31:24,015
that were being overlooked,
for whatever reasons.
743
00:31:24,015 --> 00:31:27,151
And Combate was formed
to give those athletes
744
00:31:27,151 --> 00:31:29,320
and those audiences a chance
745
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:31,589
to have their own
version of MMA.
746
00:31:31,589 --> 00:31:33,758
- [Alana] Let me introduce
you to Campbell McLaren,
747
00:31:33,758 --> 00:31:36,027
CEO and founder
of Combate Global.
748
00:31:36,027 --> 00:31:37,595
He's been around since the
beginning of what we know
749
00:31:37,595 --> 00:31:38,930
as modern MMA.
750
00:31:38,930 --> 00:31:42,200
In 1993, he co-founded the UFC.
751
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:45,103
He marketed the first UFC shows
and was a tireless promoter.
752
00:31:46,437 --> 00:31:48,373
He tried to get Fallon
Fox back in the cage,
753
00:31:48,373 --> 00:31:50,174
or La Jaula for Combate,
754
00:31:50,174 --> 00:31:51,976
but she told them she
was outta the fight game
755
00:31:51,976 --> 00:31:53,711
because of her bad knees.
756
00:31:53,711 --> 00:31:55,913
She gave them my name
while she was convincing me
757
00:31:55,913 --> 00:31:57,982
that I had what it
takes to make it in MMA.
758
00:31:59,183 --> 00:32:00,652
I'd say the timing
worked out perfectly,
759
00:32:00,652 --> 00:32:03,955
if it weren't for an
unprecedented global pandemic.
760
00:32:03,955 --> 00:32:05,990
(dial tone droning)
761
00:32:05,990 --> 00:32:07,625
- [Mike] Hey, Alana,
762
00:32:07,625 --> 00:32:09,527
this is Mike Afrmowitz from
Combate Americas, how are you?
763
00:32:09,527 --> 00:32:10,762
Pro debuts, you know,
764
00:32:10,762 --> 00:32:12,830
typically it's very
different from,
765
00:32:12,830 --> 00:32:14,432
you know, training in the gym,
766
00:32:14,432 --> 00:32:17,268
from sparring, very different
from even amateur fights.
767
00:32:17,268 --> 00:32:19,537
You know, when
those lights go on,
768
00:32:19,537 --> 00:32:21,306
you know, typically
sometimes fighters,
769
00:32:21,306 --> 00:32:22,807
they tense up.
770
00:32:22,807 --> 00:32:27,111
But you know, that's something
you just need to be aware of
771
00:32:27,111 --> 00:32:28,813
and prepare yourself
more mentally, so.
772
00:32:28,813 --> 00:32:31,349
- Yeah, definitely
like, I'm ready.
773
00:32:31,349 --> 00:32:33,651
- [Mike] What weight
will you be fighting at.
774
00:32:33,651 --> 00:32:35,586
- 145.
- Okay, yeah,
775
00:32:35,586 --> 00:32:36,854
that's what I thought.
776
00:32:36,854 --> 00:32:37,722
(gentle instrumental music)
777
00:32:37,722 --> 00:32:38,656
Well, there it is,
778
00:32:38,656 --> 00:32:40,425
my shot at another career,
779
00:32:40,425 --> 00:32:43,628
this time a professional
mixed martial arts fighter.
780
00:32:43,628 --> 00:32:45,163
Is this some sort of PR stunt
781
00:32:45,163 --> 00:32:46,497
or is there another motive here?
782
00:32:46,497 --> 00:32:48,433
At least I know
Fallon has my back.
783
00:32:48,433 --> 00:32:50,969
That's the thing, every
fight promotion's a PR thing.
784
00:32:50,969 --> 00:32:52,737
You know, and I think with MMA
785
00:32:52,737 --> 00:32:54,839
they've had a fine line to
tread because, you know,
786
00:32:54,839 --> 00:32:57,709
you remember back in the
'90s it was human fighting.
787
00:32:57,709 --> 00:33:00,345
It was a blood sport, it
was banned in most states.
788
00:33:01,546 --> 00:33:04,282
And now they're trying
to tread that line
789
00:33:04,282 --> 00:33:07,318
between legitimate
sport and spectacle,
790
00:33:07,318 --> 00:33:09,921
because let's be real, you know,
791
00:33:09,921 --> 00:33:11,422
when you think about
mixed martial arts,
792
00:33:11,422 --> 00:33:12,657
you're not thinking
about it the way
793
00:33:12,657 --> 00:33:14,325
you think about
football, or basketball,
794
00:33:14,325 --> 00:33:15,360
or something.
795
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:16,761
You know, people
that are fight fans,
796
00:33:16,761 --> 00:33:18,162
they want to see blood.
797
00:33:18,162 --> 00:33:20,131
- You look for a fighter
798
00:33:20,131 --> 00:33:22,433
that you can really
create a story about,
799
00:33:22,433 --> 00:33:25,470
and hopefully buzz,
and hopefully hype,
800
00:33:25,470 --> 00:33:28,239
and get people interested
in a particular fight.
801
00:33:28,239 --> 00:33:30,008
That's what a promoter does.
802
00:33:30,008 --> 00:33:32,076
And for me it's a ton of fun.
803
00:33:32,076 --> 00:33:34,512
With Alana, it was a very,
804
00:33:34,512 --> 00:33:36,981
very different approach.
805
00:33:39,217 --> 00:33:43,621
There's so much hate
806
00:33:43,621 --> 00:33:47,725
around transgender athletes
that I didn't want to go
807
00:33:47,725 --> 00:33:51,662
into it in a way that was
going to cause a stir.
808
00:33:52,730 --> 00:33:55,199
Alana's had enough
trouble from people
809
00:33:55,199 --> 00:33:57,902
that don't think she
should even exist,
810
00:33:57,902 --> 00:34:02,874
that I didn't wanna put a
giant target on her back.
811
00:34:06,044 --> 00:34:07,812
- [Narrator #11] Broadcasting
from the heart of Portland,
812
00:34:07,812 --> 00:34:09,447
rise and shine everyone,
813
00:34:09,447 --> 00:34:12,183
and get ready to rock
your morning blues away.
814
00:34:12,183 --> 00:34:14,719
- I'd say cue the
inspirational training montage,
815
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,522
but unfortunately it
doesn't work like that.
816
00:34:17,522 --> 00:34:19,991
Combate Global offered
me a fight down in Miami,
817
00:34:19,991 --> 00:34:22,093
ironically my dad's hometown,
818
00:34:22,093 --> 00:34:24,862
but without having an
opponent lined up yet.
819
00:34:24,862 --> 00:34:26,464
So my plan is to get in shape
820
00:34:26,464 --> 00:34:28,299
and work on my technique
in the meantime,
821
00:34:28,299 --> 00:34:30,435
which takes me to
my next problem.
822
00:34:30,435 --> 00:34:33,037
There's no MMA in Portland
that will train me.
823
00:34:33,871 --> 00:34:35,173
Time to hurry up and wait.
824
00:34:36,074 --> 00:34:37,508
- Alright, well,
825
00:34:37,508 --> 00:34:39,911
today we'll get our feet
and our hands warmed up.
826
00:34:40,778 --> 00:34:42,146
Maybe jump rope a little bit.
827
00:34:42,146 --> 00:34:43,981
- Hmm.
- And then work on
828
00:34:43,981 --> 00:34:45,983
some of your power shots,
wanna work on your upper cut
829
00:34:45,983 --> 00:34:47,151
and your right hook.
830
00:34:47,151 --> 00:34:48,786
- Alright.
- But in between
831
00:34:48,786 --> 00:34:52,490
I wanna work on double jab too.
832
00:34:52,490 --> 00:34:53,791
- Okay.
- Trying to get in.
833
00:34:53,791 --> 00:34:56,160
- Yeah, 'cause right
now I'm still just like,
834
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:58,362
I mean, I'm basically
trans girl Tank Abbott.
835
00:34:58,362 --> 00:34:59,464
Just, "What's your style?"
836
00:34:59,464 --> 00:35:01,632
"Pit fighting."
- It's hard.
837
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:04,068
Learning skills are hard.
838
00:35:06,103 --> 00:35:07,105
- Alright.
- Let's get to it.
839
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:13,244
(Alana exhaling)
(blows thudding)
840
00:35:14,479 --> 00:35:15,546
Breathe.
841
00:35:15,546 --> 00:35:16,380
Go.
842
00:35:17,148 --> 00:35:18,749
One at a time.
843
00:35:18,749 --> 00:35:21,552
So we're gonna breathe until
you feel like you're recharged,
844
00:35:21,552 --> 00:35:23,254
- Okay.
- and throw another hard one.
845
00:35:24,722 --> 00:35:25,656
Okay.
846
00:35:25,656 --> 00:35:26,324
- I mean, let's be real,
847
00:35:26,324 --> 00:35:27,525
when it comes to sports,
848
00:35:27,525 --> 00:35:28,493
the thing that
people are off about
849
00:35:28,493 --> 00:35:29,861
is trans women being included.
850
00:35:29,861 --> 00:35:32,597
We had Laurel Hubbard at
the Olympics, Lia Thomas,
851
00:35:32,597 --> 00:35:35,533
but the pushback has been
worse than I expected.
852
00:35:35,533 --> 00:35:38,336
There is a concentrated
group, like,
853
00:35:38,336 --> 00:35:40,505
a very vocal group
pushing really hard
854
00:35:40,505 --> 00:35:42,340
for trans women to be excluded.
855
00:35:42,340 --> 00:35:43,875
- He can take his male body
856
00:35:43,875 --> 00:35:46,544
and compete against other
male bodies, and fair enough.
857
00:35:46,544 --> 00:35:48,045
And then can go
dress how he wants
858
00:35:48,045 --> 00:35:50,414
and act how he wants in his
personal life, no problem.
859
00:35:50,414 --> 00:35:53,050
- Males do have a
performance advantage
860
00:35:53,050 --> 00:35:55,052
that's based on
their biological sex.
861
00:35:55,052 --> 00:35:56,754
Picking testosterone
is a red herring,
862
00:35:56,754 --> 00:35:59,290
I mean, we are forgetting
about the anatomy,
863
00:35:59,290 --> 00:36:03,794
the fast-twitch muscle,
the bigger organs.
864
00:36:03,794 --> 00:36:07,131
- For the people who are
pushing this level of hysteria,
865
00:36:07,131 --> 00:36:08,699
it isn't about sports at all.
866
00:36:08,699 --> 00:36:09,901
It's about the erasure
867
00:36:09,901 --> 00:36:12,270
of transgender people
from society as a whole.
868
00:36:12,270 --> 00:36:13,538
- We're being told
that trans women
869
00:36:13,538 --> 00:36:14,972
should not be allowed to compete
870
00:36:14,972 --> 00:36:16,307
because we are actually men.
871
00:36:16,307 --> 00:36:18,843
And it's not fucking
true, it's not true.
872
00:36:18,843 --> 00:36:21,946
- In many ways, this is no
different than the hysteria
873
00:36:21,946 --> 00:36:26,150
we saw about gay and lesbian
people in the 1970s and 1980s
874
00:36:26,150 --> 00:36:27,385
that have just been repackaged
875
00:36:27,385 --> 00:36:29,887
and repurposed for a new
time and the new target.
876
00:36:29,887 --> 00:36:33,357
- The conversation and
emphasis on trans athletes
877
00:36:33,357 --> 00:36:38,362
has been part of a much
longer political strategy
878
00:36:39,530 --> 00:36:42,266
to try to center and
dehumanize trans people
879
00:36:42,266 --> 00:36:43,768
in the US and globally.
880
00:36:43,768 --> 00:36:46,571
Many news outlets, many
academics have written
881
00:36:46,571 --> 00:36:49,440
about the way in
which trans people
882
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:52,109
and trans athletes
specifically are being used
883
00:36:52,109 --> 00:36:53,511
as a political tool.
884
00:36:53,511 --> 00:36:54,745
- MMA is probably
one of the sports
885
00:36:54,745 --> 00:36:56,480
where people are
most gonna be off
886
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:58,049
about a trans
woman participating
887
00:36:58,049 --> 00:37:00,051
because of the violent aspect
888
00:37:00,051 --> 00:37:01,052
of the sport in the first place.
889
00:37:01,052 --> 00:37:02,320
- You know, I have a daughter,
890
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:03,287
I have, you know,
891
00:37:03,287 --> 00:37:04,822
mother, girls I love,
892
00:37:04,822 --> 00:37:07,592
and it's just to watch what
a man can do to a girl,
893
00:37:07,592 --> 00:37:09,827
it's something that I don't
feel like I could watch.
894
00:37:09,827 --> 00:37:13,664
Alana says she's a woman
and has some estrogen,
895
00:37:13,664 --> 00:37:15,800
but the truth is,
she was born a man,
896
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:19,670
she grew up a man, she
has the lungs of a man,
897
00:37:19,670 --> 00:37:21,739
the skulls of a man, she
has the body of a man.
898
00:37:21,739 --> 00:37:23,174
So, you know,
899
00:37:23,174 --> 00:37:24,675
maybe she feels like a woman
inside, but she's just not.
900
00:37:24,675 --> 00:37:26,143
- They make all these
bullshit arguments about,
901
00:37:26,143 --> 00:37:27,745
"Oh, you know,
902
00:37:27,745 --> 00:37:28,613
you have these unfair
advantages, and bone density,
903
00:37:28,613 --> 00:37:30,114
and all this", fuck that,
904
00:37:31,248 --> 00:37:33,317
it is not held up by
scientific inquiry.
905
00:37:33,317 --> 00:37:34,518
You know, in fact,
906
00:37:35,987 --> 00:37:37,588
I've seen studies that show
trans women as a population.
907
00:37:37,588 --> 00:37:39,824
I'm not sure why, don't know
if it's sociological factors
908
00:37:39,824 --> 00:37:41,759
as opposed to physical,
but like trans women
909
00:37:41,759 --> 00:37:45,830
as a population statistically
have lower bone density
910
00:37:45,830 --> 00:37:49,100
than cisgender women,
and I would say
911
00:37:49,100 --> 00:37:51,435
it's probably economic
issues more than anything.
912
00:37:51,435 --> 00:37:53,771
- People are really
misinformed about this,
913
00:37:53,771 --> 00:37:57,975
and they come at it from a
position of anger, emotion,
914
00:37:57,975 --> 00:38:00,244
hate, whether it's religious,
915
00:38:00,244 --> 00:38:02,780
or philosophical, or political.
916
00:38:02,780 --> 00:38:05,216
I think they don't really
understand what's going on here.
917
00:38:05,216 --> 00:38:10,054
When people first hear
transgender fighter,
former military,
918
00:38:10,054 --> 00:38:11,355
they're like,
919
00:38:11,355 --> 00:38:13,057
"No, we don't want that.
920
00:38:13,057 --> 00:38:15,393
We don't need that, we don't
think that should even exist."
921
00:38:15,393 --> 00:38:19,030
- Anyway, not great news.
922
00:38:19,030 --> 00:38:23,300
Had the fight fall through
again, no opponent again.
923
00:38:26,904 --> 00:38:29,440
But it was nice to
actually hear something.
924
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:33,778
So even though we're
looking at June 25th now,
925
00:38:33,778 --> 00:38:37,281
which is a day before I
turned 38, for fucks sake.
926
00:38:37,281 --> 00:38:38,616
Fallon just messaged me, said,
927
00:38:38,616 --> 00:38:40,718
"Please knock people
out with those knees."
928
00:38:43,721 --> 00:38:47,391
(blows thudding)
(Alana exhaling)
929
00:38:47,391 --> 00:38:50,561
- I'm really struggling to get
through this fucking workout.
930
00:38:53,931 --> 00:38:55,366
Fuck.
931
00:38:55,366 --> 00:38:58,736
- What Alana is describing
and going through right now
932
00:38:58,736 --> 00:39:01,939
in terms of difficulty
finding a coach,
933
00:39:01,939 --> 00:39:06,377
can't find somebody to fight
her, can't find other folks
934
00:39:06,377 --> 00:39:11,549
or allies locally to really
support her in a real way.
935
00:39:12,950 --> 00:39:15,820
That is something that every
single one of the athletes
936
00:39:15,820 --> 00:39:18,022
we're in contact with
have that same issue.
937
00:39:18,022 --> 00:39:19,523
- Process of getting
in the gym for Alana
938
00:39:19,523 --> 00:39:21,592
was not an easy one.
939
00:39:21,592 --> 00:39:24,562
There were a lot that they
didn't wanna accept her.
940
00:39:24,562 --> 00:39:27,698
- The fact that it's
hard for her to get
941
00:39:27,698 --> 00:39:30,935
a place to train where
she feels comfortable,
942
00:39:30,935 --> 00:39:33,204
where she feels
welcome is something
943
00:39:33,204 --> 00:39:36,373
that weighs heavy on her a lot.
944
00:39:37,241 --> 00:39:39,777
But she still figures it out.
945
00:39:39,777 --> 00:39:42,680
(blows thudding)
946
00:39:43,714 --> 00:39:45,249
- MMA, the sport,
it's weird anyway.
947
00:39:45,249 --> 00:39:49,120
There's tons of people that
are addicted to testosterone
948
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:50,488
or they're doing EPO.
949
00:39:50,488 --> 00:39:52,890
There's weight cutting,
there's rampant steroid use.
950
00:39:52,890 --> 00:39:54,925
- There's a hypocrisy
surrounding trans athletes
951
00:39:54,925 --> 00:39:56,961
that's impossible to ignore.
952
00:39:56,961 --> 00:39:58,262
Caitlyn Jenner says trans women
953
00:39:58,262 --> 00:40:00,097
shouldn't participate
in women's sports,
954
00:40:00,097 --> 00:40:03,234
but she herself competed in
a women's golf tournament.
955
00:40:03,234 --> 00:40:05,936
Jake Shields complains that
I have unfair advantages,
956
00:40:05,936 --> 00:40:08,973
but he's been suspended
for using band substances.
957
00:40:08,973 --> 00:40:14,011
- People wanna focus on trans
fighters because it's easy.
958
00:40:15,212 --> 00:40:19,016
It's easy to say that
this person is doing it
959
00:40:19,650 --> 00:40:21,252
to have an edge.
960
00:40:21,252 --> 00:40:22,953
- All the people that tell me
I should have to fight men,
961
00:40:22,953 --> 00:40:26,157
I legally couldn't and it
be sanctioned, you know?
962
00:40:26,157 --> 00:40:29,627
By every legal
standard I'm a woman.
963
00:40:29,627 --> 00:40:32,163
You know, my hormones are
where they're supposed to be.
964
00:40:32,163 --> 00:40:34,131
My birth certificate,
driver's license,
965
00:40:34,131 --> 00:40:37,268
social security card all say
female where it says sex.
966
00:40:37,268 --> 00:40:39,703
I've been open about who I
am the fucking whole time,
967
00:40:39,703 --> 00:40:41,105
I've passed every test.
968
00:40:41,105 --> 00:40:43,440
There are plenty of cis
women that are doping
969
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:45,142
that still get to fight.
970
00:40:45,142 --> 00:40:47,945
I invested a lot in not having
testosterone in my body.
971
00:40:47,945 --> 00:40:49,914
I'm sure as shit not
reintroducing any.
972
00:40:49,914 --> 00:40:51,015
- There's not
gonna be real money
973
00:40:51,015 --> 00:40:53,284
or fame for Alana in the end.
974
00:40:53,284 --> 00:40:56,220
She's doing it because she's
always been an athlete,
975
00:40:56,220 --> 00:40:58,989
and always been a woman,
and wants to fight.
976
00:40:58,989 --> 00:41:02,326
She should be able to do
that without this abuse,
977
00:41:02,326 --> 00:41:03,761
without threats online,
978
00:41:03,761 --> 00:41:07,431
without feeling like somebody
might kill you any moment.
979
00:41:07,431 --> 00:41:08,532
That's fucked up.
980
00:41:08,532 --> 00:41:10,067
- Trans athletes always
have an advantage.
981
00:41:10,067 --> 00:41:11,635
You look at men, they
dominate every sports.
982
00:41:11,635 --> 00:41:14,672
That's the reason why we
give women's divisions.
983
00:41:14,672 --> 00:41:16,040
By allowing trans,
984
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:17,541
we're taking away what
women work so hard for.
985
00:41:17,541 --> 00:41:19,176
I think people say like,
986
00:41:19,176 --> 00:41:20,845
"Oh, you're not being
inclusive in this",
987
00:41:20,845 --> 00:41:22,780
but what about the
girls that care?
988
00:41:22,780 --> 00:41:23,681
What about their feelings?
989
00:41:23,681 --> 00:41:25,049
They've worked so hard.
990
00:41:25,049 --> 00:41:27,318
You know, to take their
rights over a few people,
991
00:41:27,318 --> 00:41:28,986
to take it from the
thousands of women
992
00:41:28,986 --> 00:41:30,487
that work so hard for sports.
993
00:41:30,487 --> 00:41:33,390
That's probably why they should
either make a trans league
994
00:41:33,390 --> 00:41:35,192
or compete against
men, you know?
995
00:41:35,192 --> 00:41:37,595
- I'm the second openly
trans woman in MMA,
996
00:41:37,595 --> 00:41:39,263
who the fuck am I gonna fight?
997
00:41:39,263 --> 00:41:42,433
- I only know one transgender
fighter in the entire world.
998
00:41:42,433 --> 00:41:43,300
What is she gonna do?
999
00:41:43,300 --> 00:41:45,069
Shadow box.
1000
00:41:45,069 --> 00:41:48,038
You know, I can't start
a league with one person.
1001
00:41:48,038 --> 00:41:52,476
- Women's MMA is
barely able to field
1002
00:41:52,476 --> 00:41:54,211
any kind of competition
in the first place,
1003
00:41:54,211 --> 00:41:55,913
because it's pretty
small as it is.
1004
00:41:55,913 --> 00:41:58,048
You think an even
smaller category
1005
00:41:58,048 --> 00:42:00,017
is gonna be able
to make it, like,
1006
00:42:00,017 --> 00:42:01,352
that's called segregation,
1007
00:42:01,352 --> 00:42:03,454
and historically it hasn't
worked out for people.
1008
00:42:03,454 --> 00:42:05,356
They don't care that
women are underpaid,
1009
00:42:05,356 --> 00:42:06,857
they don't care that
women don't have access
1010
00:42:06,857 --> 00:42:08,359
to the same facilities.
1011
00:42:08,359 --> 00:42:09,760
They will tell you
that women's sports
1012
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:11,095
aren't as good as men's sport.
1013
00:42:11,095 --> 00:42:12,930
Like, they don't care
about women's sports
1014
00:42:12,930 --> 00:42:14,932
until it is an
opportunity for them
1015
00:42:14,932 --> 00:42:17,134
to shit on trans
women, that's it.
1016
00:42:17,134 --> 00:42:20,271
- So one of the major
myths we hear is that.
1017
00:42:20,271 --> 00:42:21,805
- Pretty soon there'll
be no women's sports.
1018
00:42:21,805 --> 00:42:25,042
It'll just be men that
couldn't hack it as pros,
1019
00:42:25,042 --> 00:42:26,243
they'll switch and become women,
1020
00:42:26,243 --> 00:42:27,845
and they'll go dominate
women's sports.
1021
00:42:27,845 --> 00:42:31,315
That'll be the future of women's
sports if this keeps going.
1022
00:42:31,315 --> 00:42:34,852
- And that is a major one
I wanna debunk right now.
1023
00:42:34,852 --> 00:42:39,023
If we take the Olympics and
Paralympics as an example,
1024
00:42:39,023 --> 00:42:41,892
the first transgender
policy put forth
1025
00:42:41,892 --> 00:42:44,428
by the IOC was in 2004.
1026
00:42:44,428 --> 00:42:49,233
So between 2004 and the
Tokyo Olympics in 2021,
1027
00:42:50,100 --> 00:42:53,003
over 50,000 athletes competed.
1028
00:42:53,003 --> 00:42:56,073
Not a single athlete
was openly trans
1029
00:42:56,073 --> 00:42:57,775
until the Tokyo Olympics
1030
00:42:57,775 --> 00:43:02,279
when one openly trans woman
competed in weightlifting
1031
00:43:03,647 --> 00:43:06,417
and she did not medal, she
could not even finish her lifts.
1032
00:43:07,718 --> 00:43:11,755
1 athlete, 50,000 athletes
1033
00:43:11,755 --> 00:43:13,257
over two decades.
1034
00:43:13,257 --> 00:43:16,026
- We are statistically
underrepresented.
1035
00:43:17,127 --> 00:43:18,762
You know, in a more just world,
1036
00:43:18,762 --> 00:43:20,197
there would be people
asking questions like,
1037
00:43:20,197 --> 00:43:22,499
"Why aren't there more
trans women in sports?"
1038
00:43:22,499 --> 00:43:26,437
- People have a lot of
feelings about trans athletes
1039
00:43:27,638 --> 00:43:29,440
and about what they're
seeing in the media,
1040
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:32,109
but it's not actually backed up
1041
00:43:32,109 --> 00:43:35,646
by the facts of what
is actually happening.
1042
00:43:35,646 --> 00:43:37,581
Because essentially
what we're saying
1043
00:43:37,581 --> 00:43:41,151
when we make these comments
about women's sports in general,
1044
00:43:41,151 --> 00:43:42,953
is that we don't believe
1045
00:43:42,953 --> 00:43:45,155
that women can be
powerful athletes.
1046
00:43:45,155 --> 00:43:47,758
That if a woman is
too fast, too strong,
1047
00:43:47,758 --> 00:43:49,460
too good, too powerful,
1048
00:43:49,460 --> 00:43:51,762
oh, then there's no way she
can actually be a woman.
1049
00:43:51,762 --> 00:43:53,797
- I think it's a little bit of
a lack of control of the men.
1050
00:43:53,797 --> 00:43:55,432
This was always our thing.
1051
00:43:55,432 --> 00:43:56,800
Now all of a sudden the
women are jumping in,
1052
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:58,869
and they're good, and
they're good at it,
1053
00:43:58,869 --> 00:44:02,006
and they're fun to watch, and
they're extremely talented,
1054
00:44:02,006 --> 00:44:03,574
worth investing in.
1055
00:44:03,574 --> 00:44:07,845
And that's probably scares a
lot of the pro men athletes.
1056
00:44:07,845 --> 00:44:09,680
- I'm hungry.
- Yeah, me too.
1057
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:11,815
What do you wanna get?
- I don't know.
1058
00:44:11,815 --> 00:44:14,485
- Tai, Mexican?
- Anything.
1059
00:44:14,485 --> 00:44:16,253
I need to watch
my weight though.
1060
00:44:16,253 --> 00:44:18,389
- [Alana] You need
to watch your weight?
1061
00:44:18,389 --> 00:44:20,257
I'm the one got a
fight coming up.
1062
00:44:22,926 --> 00:44:25,262
- Have you heard anything
about a new fight yet?
1063
00:44:25,262 --> 00:44:26,797
Like, have they found
anything at all or?
1064
00:44:26,797 --> 00:44:28,666
- Like, I don't know
who I'll be fighting,
1065
00:44:28,666 --> 00:44:30,401
I don't know when
I'll be fighting,
1066
00:44:30,401 --> 00:44:33,670
I just know I'll be going
down to train and that's it.
1067
00:44:33,670 --> 00:44:36,006
Like, they've floated
a couple people
1068
00:44:36,006 --> 00:44:37,775
who have turned it down.
- Yeah.
1069
00:44:37,775 --> 00:44:40,210
- I've been in the
business 14 years now,
1070
00:44:40,210 --> 00:44:41,945
in the fight business 20 years,
1071
00:44:41,945 --> 00:44:44,548
and I've never had a
more challenging task
1072
00:44:44,548 --> 00:44:47,818
than finding Alana
McLaughlin an opponent.
1073
00:44:47,818 --> 00:44:51,188
- A lot of us have been
trained to protect women
1074
00:44:51,188 --> 00:44:53,123
as men protecting women.
1075
00:44:53,123 --> 00:44:54,425
And I think that
really comes out
1076
00:44:54,425 --> 00:44:56,427
in the traditional
business of fighting.
1077
00:44:56,427 --> 00:44:58,829
So I think the male
coaches, the male trainers
1078
00:44:58,829 --> 00:45:01,498
are very protective of
their girl fighters.
1079
00:45:02,866 --> 00:45:07,004
And the idea of the girl they're
protecting fighting this,
1080
00:45:07,004 --> 00:45:10,407
however they think of
a transgender fighter,
1081
00:45:11,275 --> 00:45:12,376
they just don't want to do it.
1082
00:45:12,376 --> 00:45:14,578
We couldn't find an opponent.
1083
00:45:14,578 --> 00:45:17,481
The fight community
was really against it.
1084
00:45:17,481 --> 00:45:19,883
- I don't care what you
want to do to yourself,
1085
00:45:19,883 --> 00:45:22,152
go crazy, change whatever
you wanna change,
1086
00:45:22,152 --> 00:45:23,320
whatever makes you
happy, go for it,
1087
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:24,288
I don't care.
1088
00:45:25,322 --> 00:45:26,423
When it comes to
fighting and competing,
1089
00:45:26,423 --> 00:45:27,825
I think it's a complete
different story,
1090
00:45:27,825 --> 00:45:31,495
and I think it
shouldn't be allowed.
1091
00:45:31,495 --> 00:45:35,432
(Jasmin speaking in Spanish)
1092
00:45:40,838 --> 00:45:42,840
- The reactions range from,
1093
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:46,477
"I don't believe in
transgender fighters
1094
00:45:46,477 --> 00:45:47,711
being allowed to compete"
1095
00:45:49,046 --> 00:45:52,850
to "How could you even
ask me this question?"
1096
00:45:52,850 --> 00:45:55,052
You know, there were
people that were offended.
1097
00:45:55,052 --> 00:45:57,287
- My luck, they'll put me up
against fucking Cris Cyborg
1098
00:45:57,287 --> 00:45:59,423
or some shit and I'll just get
1099
00:45:59,423 --> 00:46:01,892
trashed a bit.
- Well, I hope not
1100
00:46:01,892 --> 00:46:04,361
for your sake, you know?
- Yeah, I hope not too.
1101
00:46:04,361 --> 00:46:05,863
- Yeah, cool.
1102
00:46:07,131 --> 00:46:08,298
Well, I mean, I'm glad that,
1103
00:46:08,298 --> 00:46:10,234
you know, there's talk about it,
1104
00:46:10,234 --> 00:46:12,302
but hopefully you'll
land something soon.
1105
00:46:12,302 --> 00:46:13,737
- Yeah, hopefully.
- Yeah.
1106
00:46:13,737 --> 00:46:16,173
- Fingers crossed.
- I'm sure you will.
1107
00:46:16,173 --> 00:46:17,708
- Yeah.
- One of the first times
1108
00:46:17,708 --> 00:46:20,043
where I actually spent some
quality time with Alana,
1109
00:46:20,043 --> 00:46:22,179
walked into like a local cidery,
1110
00:46:22,179 --> 00:46:23,914
and then we were
talking, you know,
1111
00:46:23,914 --> 00:46:28,318
and she goes, "Hey,
have you seen my,
1112
00:46:28,318 --> 00:46:30,053
you know, pre-transition
pictures?"
1113
00:46:30,053 --> 00:46:32,923
She showed me and and I go,
1114
00:46:32,923 --> 00:46:35,359
"Oh yeah,
1115
00:46:35,359 --> 00:46:38,128
I don't know that
person, you know?"
1116
00:46:38,128 --> 00:46:39,229
And she goes,
1117
00:46:40,397 --> 00:46:42,065
"Yeah, I don't think
I really did either."
1118
00:46:42,065 --> 00:46:44,802
- She's a fighter at her core,
1119
00:46:44,802 --> 00:46:48,238
but she's also one of the
sweetest people I know.
1120
00:46:48,238 --> 00:46:50,607
If someone needed housing,
1121
00:46:50,607 --> 00:46:53,110
she always had her
couch available,
1122
00:46:53,110 --> 00:46:56,113
she would give them her
own bed if they needed.
1123
00:46:56,113 --> 00:46:58,482
You know, she's always
been there for people
1124
00:46:58,482 --> 00:46:59,850
when they're at their lowest.
1125
00:46:59,850 --> 00:47:01,818
- [Alana] But now you
were asking about the pie,
1126
00:47:01,818 --> 00:47:03,587
I've done two in the
past couple days.
1127
00:47:03,587 --> 00:47:04,288
- Oh really?
1128
00:47:04,288 --> 00:47:05,722
Oh good.
- Amazing.
1129
00:47:05,722 --> 00:47:06,757
- See, I was wondering
if I had the opportunity
1130
00:47:06,757 --> 00:47:07,758
to bring that up.
- Well, listen,
1131
00:47:07,758 --> 00:47:08,792
really, what's wrong with that?
1132
00:47:08,792 --> 00:47:09,960
- No, you make
pies for everyone.
1133
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:11,261
- I do, I do.
- Yeah.
1134
00:47:12,229 --> 00:47:14,231
- And then before
that I did one.
1135
00:47:14,231 --> 00:47:17,935
(gentle instrumental music)
1136
00:47:28,912 --> 00:47:33,050
I've always wanted somewhere
kind of comfortable and just,
1137
00:47:33,050 --> 00:47:35,052
I don't know, comfortable and
nice where I can just relax
1138
00:47:35,052 --> 00:47:38,488
and don't have to worry about
all the bullshit, you know?
1139
00:47:38,488 --> 00:47:39,990
A forever home, you know,
1140
00:47:39,990 --> 00:47:41,925
like I'm some kind of stray cat.
1141
00:47:43,126 --> 00:47:45,696
But no, I just want a
little place of my own,
1142
00:47:45,696 --> 00:47:47,464
you know, I like
woods and trees,
1143
00:47:47,464 --> 00:47:49,466
and I'd like to have
a pointy little house
1144
00:47:49,466 --> 00:47:52,436
with maybe a couple
goats and some chickens.
1145
00:47:53,303 --> 00:47:54,838
I'd like to keep bees, I think.
1146
00:47:56,106 --> 00:47:58,842
And for hedges out
front, I want wild roses
1147
00:47:58,842 --> 00:48:00,444
and blackberry bushes.
1148
00:48:00,444 --> 00:48:02,045
Baking can absolutely
be relaxing
1149
00:48:02,045 --> 00:48:04,615
as long as you're not
messing up your recipe,
1150
00:48:04,615 --> 00:48:07,551
then it is substantially
less relaxing.
1151
00:48:07,551 --> 00:48:09,987
But no, it's enjoyable for me.
1152
00:48:11,221 --> 00:48:14,391
There's no pressure and
just make something sweet,
1153
00:48:14,391 --> 00:48:15,692
and nice, and pretty,
1154
00:48:15,692 --> 00:48:18,395
and share it with my friends.
1155
00:48:18,395 --> 00:48:21,999
(gentle instrumental music)
1156
00:48:34,845 --> 00:48:38,015
Just when I think I can relax
and enjoy my blackberry pie,
1157
00:48:38,015 --> 00:48:39,349
the Internet's blowing up.
1158
00:48:40,484 --> 00:48:41,618
It's wild how much
things have changed
1159
00:48:41,618 --> 00:48:43,754
since those early
days on Tumblr,
1160
00:48:43,754 --> 00:48:45,689
it almost feels like
a more innocent time
1161
00:48:45,689 --> 00:48:47,891
compared to the posts
and comments I see now.
1162
00:48:48,859 --> 00:48:51,762
When Fallon was
fighting in 2014,
1163
00:48:51,762 --> 00:48:52,596
a lot of people
being transphobic,
1164
00:48:52,596 --> 00:48:54,064
it was just out of ignorance
1165
00:48:54,064 --> 00:48:56,466
because they didn't
really know any better.
1166
00:48:57,801 --> 00:49:01,338
Now, I would say the
landscape has shifted in that
1167
00:49:02,572 --> 00:49:06,043
as soon as right wingers,
as soon as Republicans
1168
00:49:06,043 --> 00:49:08,712
lost the marriage equality
fight in the Supreme Court,
1169
00:49:08,712 --> 00:49:10,547
they shifted their focus
1170
00:49:10,547 --> 00:49:11,882
and they knew trans
people were gonna be
1171
00:49:11,882 --> 00:49:13,984
their best shot at
a new boogeyman.
1172
00:49:13,984 --> 00:49:16,653
Half of the people that
I've been face to face with
1173
00:49:16,653 --> 00:49:18,588
in the streets are
in jail right now
1174
00:49:18,588 --> 00:49:21,291
for trying to storm the
Capitol on January 6th.
1175
00:49:21,291 --> 00:49:23,160
What happens is, you know,
1176
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:25,929
you see flyers for a bunch of
fucking right wing shitheads
1177
00:49:25,929 --> 00:49:27,431
saying they're
gonna fly into town
1178
00:49:27,431 --> 00:49:30,100
and cleanse the streets
of Portland with fire.
1179
00:49:30,100 --> 00:49:31,601
And then everybody in
the community goes,
1180
00:49:31,601 --> 00:49:32,602
"Oh, this is fucked up,
1181
00:49:32,602 --> 00:49:34,171
we can't let them do this."
1182
00:49:34,171 --> 00:49:36,940
And then everybody shows up,
and that's how that goes.
1183
00:49:36,940 --> 00:49:39,843
I've actually had
three friends die.
1184
00:49:39,843 --> 00:49:42,546
I had another friend
get stabbed in the neck.
1185
00:49:42,546 --> 00:49:44,147
It was fucking dangerous.
1186
00:49:44,147 --> 00:49:46,350
You know, like I get easily
thousands of death threats.
1187
00:49:46,350 --> 00:49:47,784
I think back in 2014,
1188
00:49:47,784 --> 00:49:50,020
most of the transphobia
was still out of ignorance.
1189
00:49:50,020 --> 00:49:52,122
Where now it's basically
a political statement.
1190
00:49:52,122 --> 00:49:53,423
A big part of that's appealing
1191
00:49:53,423 --> 00:49:55,559
to some regressive
notion of tradition.
1192
00:49:55,559 --> 00:49:57,294
You know, like women
belong in the home
1193
00:49:57,294 --> 00:50:00,030
and only men belong out
in the world doing things.
1194
00:50:00,030 --> 00:50:03,200
Ultimately, I think
most transphobia
boils down to sexism,
1195
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:04,434
just repackaged.
1196
00:50:05,402 --> 00:50:07,771
Now it's become more hate based.
1197
00:50:07,771 --> 00:50:08,905
And if you put yourself
out there on the internet,
1198
00:50:08,905 --> 00:50:10,841
you become a target
for vitriol and abuse.
1199
00:50:11,875 --> 00:50:14,010
It leads to violence.
(crowds yelling)
1200
00:50:14,010 --> 00:50:15,512
It's on the streets,
on the TV networks,
1201
00:50:15,512 --> 00:50:16,747
on social media.
1202
00:50:17,681 --> 00:50:20,050
The hatred is at
a boiling point.
1203
00:50:20,050 --> 00:50:23,220
(water splashing)
1204
00:50:23,220 --> 00:50:26,056
- If decide tomorrow that
I was a 47-year-old woman,
1205
00:50:26,056 --> 00:50:28,892
should I be allowed to go
shower in a women's locker room?
1206
00:50:30,494 --> 00:50:32,796
- First off, I'm
not a fucking man.
1207
00:50:32,796 --> 00:50:35,332
I'm not a predator, I'm
not a bathroom predator.
1208
00:50:35,332 --> 00:50:38,502
If a man wants to abuse
your child or your wife,
1209
00:50:38,502 --> 00:50:41,872
a fucking sign on the bathroom
door isn't gonna stop him.
1210
00:50:41,872 --> 00:50:43,106
You know what I do
in the bathroom?
1211
00:50:43,106 --> 00:50:44,207
I piss.
1212
00:50:44,207 --> 00:50:46,877
I piss, I wash my
hands, and I leave.
1213
00:50:46,877 --> 00:50:48,078
- [Interviewer #3] Rules that
are set by sporting bodies.
1214
00:50:48,078 --> 00:50:49,379
- It's not fair, is it?
- By governing bodies.
1215
00:50:49,379 --> 00:50:50,814
- It's just not fair.
- No, but you've got to make
1216
00:50:50,814 --> 00:50:51,948
sure that it is fair.
- And it's damaging
1217
00:50:51,948 --> 00:50:53,250
to woman's rights.
- That is my point
1218
00:50:53,250 --> 00:50:54,317
in this conversation.
- It's got nothing to do
1219
00:50:54,317 --> 00:50:55,519
with women's rights.
1220
00:50:55,519 --> 00:50:56,686
You don't care about
women in sports,
1221
00:50:56,686 --> 00:50:57,921
you don't care about
women's sports.
1222
00:50:57,921 --> 00:50:59,089
You don't care that
women are paid less.
1223
00:50:59,089 --> 00:51:01,691
All you wanna do is
make sure I can't play.
1224
00:51:01,691 --> 00:51:03,693
You wanna make sure
Lia Thomas can't swim.
1225
00:51:03,693 --> 00:51:06,263
You wanna make sure that Laurel
Hubbard can't lift weights.
1226
00:51:06,263 --> 00:51:09,466
- [Narrator #12] It also states
any form of homosexuality
1227
00:51:09,466 --> 00:51:11,068
or transgender identity
1228
00:51:11,068 --> 00:51:14,137
is "sinful in the sight
of God and the church."
1229
00:51:14,137 --> 00:51:16,106
- It doesn't say anything in
the Bible about trans women.
1230
00:51:16,106 --> 00:51:18,508
It really doesn't say
anything about gay people.
1231
00:51:18,508 --> 00:51:20,410
So don't gimme any bullshit
1232
00:51:20,410 --> 00:51:24,281
about how your religion doesn't
agree with my existence.
1233
00:51:24,281 --> 00:51:25,081
Fuck that.
1234
00:51:26,216 --> 00:51:27,918
- I think the only
problem that I have
1235
00:51:27,918 --> 00:51:30,687
with that transitioning thing
1236
00:51:30,687 --> 00:51:33,023
is physical
competition, that's it,
1237
00:51:33,023 --> 00:51:34,090
a physical competition.
- You want me in that cage.
1238
00:51:34,090 --> 00:51:35,725
You want to be
able to point at me
1239
00:51:35,725 --> 00:51:38,662
and talk about that monster
over there, that abomination,
1240
00:51:38,662 --> 00:51:40,397
that scary, disgusting creature
1241
00:51:40,397 --> 00:51:41,798
that's corrupting your children
1242
00:51:41,798 --> 00:51:43,500
and destroying women's sports.
1243
00:51:43,500 --> 00:51:44,634
That's what you want.
1244
00:51:44,634 --> 00:51:45,902
You want me in there.
1245
00:51:45,902 --> 00:51:47,971
So fucking get me a fight.
1246
00:51:49,106 --> 00:51:52,075
(suspenseful music)
1247
00:51:52,075 --> 00:51:53,810
- [Celine] My name
is Celine Provost,
1248
00:51:53,810 --> 00:51:56,680
I'm a teacher in university.
1249
00:51:57,747 --> 00:52:00,150
- I found Celine through
a manager contact
1250
00:52:00,150 --> 00:52:02,652
who was managing another
fighter that fights for Combate.
1251
00:52:02,652 --> 00:52:04,087
Luckily he had somebody
1252
00:52:04,087 --> 00:52:05,856
and he had somebody like Celine
1253
00:52:05,856 --> 00:52:07,491
that was willing to
take the challenge.
1254
00:52:07,491 --> 00:52:11,228
- I agreed because it was a
chance for me to fight again,
1255
00:52:11,228 --> 00:52:12,362
no matter, you know,
1256
00:52:12,362 --> 00:52:15,599
who the opponent was,
transgender or not,
1257
00:52:15,599 --> 00:52:17,234
it was not an issue to me.
1258
00:52:17,234 --> 00:52:19,336
But after it got me to
look into, you know,
1259
00:52:19,336 --> 00:52:21,671
who transgender were,
1260
00:52:21,671 --> 00:52:24,674
and since I've been
into gender studies,
1261
00:52:25,809 --> 00:52:27,344
I think it's a good thing.
1262
00:52:27,344 --> 00:52:29,146
To be honest with you,
1263
00:52:29,146 --> 00:52:32,315
I'm not sure there are any
transgender athlete in France.
1264
00:52:33,683 --> 00:52:38,288
And I think it will be like
a 50% for and 50% against,
1265
00:52:39,523 --> 00:52:41,024
because France is a
country where you have
1266
00:52:41,024 --> 00:52:43,660
a lot of chauvinist guys.
1267
00:52:43,660 --> 00:52:48,365
For female fighters, we need
way more female fighters,
1268
00:52:48,365 --> 00:52:51,434
way more transgender
fighters to have
1269
00:52:51,434 --> 00:52:54,237
so that they're alleged
in the eyes of the people.
1270
00:52:54,237 --> 00:52:55,906
- [Alana] Celine
is pretty hardcore.
1271
00:52:55,906 --> 00:52:58,208
Set aside that I'm trans,
but I have no record,
1272
00:52:58,208 --> 00:53:01,478
no tape to watch, and I'm a
former special forces operator.
1273
00:53:01,478 --> 00:53:03,013
It's a scary fight.
1274
00:53:03,013 --> 00:53:05,615
Win or lose, I have nothing
but respect for her.
1275
00:53:05,615 --> 00:53:09,519
So one seemingly impossible
task done, just one more left.
1276
00:53:09,519 --> 00:53:11,288
What gym will have me?
1277
00:53:11,288 --> 00:53:12,989
- Combate does all it
shows here in Miami.
1278
00:53:12,989 --> 00:53:15,792
I love the weather,
I love the food,
1279
00:53:16,826 --> 00:53:18,929
it's just a great home for us.
1280
00:53:18,929 --> 00:53:22,399
But in a way it was very
unwelcoming for Alana.
1281
00:53:22,399 --> 00:53:27,404
We went to 9 gyms
before we found the 10th
1282
00:53:28,405 --> 00:53:29,940
that agreed to train her.
1283
00:53:29,940 --> 00:53:32,409
- [Alana] The final
breakthrough, a gym
that'll train me.
1284
00:53:32,409 --> 00:53:34,644
Thank you MMA Masters.
1285
00:53:34,644 --> 00:53:36,112
Now let's get it on.
1286
00:53:36,112 --> 00:53:38,648
Miami, here comes Lady Feral.
1287
00:53:38,648 --> 00:53:41,818
(suspenseful music)
1288
00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:58,802
(blows thudding)
- Hey.
1289
00:53:58,802 --> 00:54:01,438
(suspenseful music)
1290
00:54:14,050 --> 00:54:16,953
- Mike, the vice president
for Combate Global,
1291
00:54:16,953 --> 00:54:20,257
he contact us and he
told us this situation.
1292
00:54:20,257 --> 00:54:21,024
I say, "Yes, man.
1293
00:54:21,024 --> 00:54:22,359
Here we don't judge people.
1294
00:54:22,359 --> 00:54:24,995
We are coach, my job
is to coach people."
1295
00:54:24,995 --> 00:54:27,163
- She wound up at one of
the best training centers,
1296
00:54:27,163 --> 00:54:29,532
if not the best, in Miami.
1297
00:54:29,532 --> 00:54:32,168
(upbeat music)
1298
00:54:39,509 --> 00:54:43,179
(singer singing in Spanish)
1299
00:54:50,820 --> 00:54:53,456
(upbeat music)
1300
00:55:05,669 --> 00:55:09,706
- We officially started
the gym back in 2009.
1301
00:55:09,706 --> 00:55:11,574
A lot of great
MMA fighters here.
1302
00:55:11,574 --> 00:55:15,245
- Now we have Colby Covington,
we have Amanda Nunes,
1303
00:55:15,245 --> 00:55:16,680
you know, she's
still the champion.
1304
00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:17,781
We have a lot of, you know,
1305
00:55:17,781 --> 00:55:19,349
high level fighters here.
1306
00:55:19,349 --> 00:55:21,418
- And we have a lot of guys
combating in Combate Global.
1307
00:55:21,418 --> 00:55:26,356
Great fights and a great
show, and it's been amazing.
1308
00:55:27,524 --> 00:55:28,658
- So when I first
came into this camp,
1309
00:55:28,658 --> 00:55:30,393
I definitely was intimidated.
1310
00:55:30,393 --> 00:55:32,462
While it's a much
different environment,
1311
00:55:32,462 --> 00:55:35,331
I definitely had some shades
of walking into basic training,
1312
00:55:35,331 --> 00:55:37,200
you know, and basically I
just kind of played it cool.
1313
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:39,002
- Oh, I knew she was very rough.
1314
00:55:39,002 --> 00:55:40,804
I knew that we didn't
have enough time
1315
00:55:40,804 --> 00:55:43,239
to improve her game a lot.
1316
00:55:44,107 --> 00:55:45,108
- Yeah, she's an ex-military,
1317
00:55:45,108 --> 00:55:47,377
so you know, she
has the courage,
1318
00:55:47,377 --> 00:55:48,712
she has the heart.
1319
00:55:48,712 --> 00:55:50,547
You don't need too much
sometimes in the MMA fight,
1320
00:55:50,547 --> 00:55:53,783
but the more you stay
basic with your foundation,
1321
00:55:53,783 --> 00:55:56,486
the stronger you get,
you stay in the fight.
1322
00:55:56,486 --> 00:55:58,188
- We tried to do
as best we could
1323
00:55:58,188 --> 00:56:00,590
to get her ready for the fight.
1324
00:56:00,590 --> 00:56:03,259
(upbeat music)
1325
00:56:03,259 --> 00:56:05,295
- Got a gym, got an opponent,
1326
00:56:05,295 --> 00:56:07,163
so now I gotta fight.
1327
00:56:07,163 --> 00:56:08,998
The training is no joke.
1328
00:56:08,998 --> 00:56:12,736
It took so much work to get
here and now I don't feel ready.
1329
00:56:12,736 --> 00:56:15,138
These fighters are years
and levels above me,
1330
00:56:15,138 --> 00:56:17,107
and who knows if
they'll even accept me.
1331
00:56:18,575 --> 00:56:20,510
Are they talking about
me behind my back?
1332
00:56:21,644 --> 00:56:22,979
I feel alone here.
1333
00:56:22,979 --> 00:56:24,280
My friends feel so far away
1334
00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:25,982
and there's no
family to lean on.
1335
00:56:27,050 --> 00:56:28,485
Portland is chaos,
1336
00:56:28,485 --> 00:56:31,187
but it's hard to tell a
friend from foe in Miami,
1337
00:56:31,187 --> 00:56:32,522
can I really trust my team?
1338
00:56:34,257 --> 00:56:38,361
(gentle instrumental music)
1339
00:56:38,361 --> 00:56:42,065
So we're at the cemetery
where my grandfather's buried,
1340
00:56:42,065 --> 00:56:44,134
'cause I knew he was
buried in the area.
1341
00:56:45,335 --> 00:56:49,639
He grew up here in
Hialeah and so did my dad.
1342
00:56:49,639 --> 00:56:51,941
But of course, I'm not in
contact with my family,
1343
00:56:51,941 --> 00:56:54,677
so I couldn't call them and
ask them where he's buried.
1344
00:56:56,246 --> 00:56:59,182
So actually, there was
like an internet post about
1345
00:56:59,182 --> 00:57:02,018
the AIDS Quilt, because
my grandfather died
1346
00:57:02,018 --> 00:57:04,320
in the AIDS crisis in 1996.
1347
00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:08,525
So yeah, I reached
out to my networks
1348
00:57:08,525 --> 00:57:11,227
and turned out some people
that were following me
1349
00:57:11,227 --> 00:57:12,929
were part of like mortuary
services and stuff.
1350
00:57:12,929 --> 00:57:15,932
So they did some research for me
1351
00:57:15,932 --> 00:57:17,434
and they found out where he was.
1352
00:57:18,535 --> 00:57:20,436
Just strangers on the internet.
1353
00:57:20,436 --> 00:57:24,307
(gentle instrumental music)
1354
00:57:50,467 --> 00:57:55,071
(gentle instrumental
music continues)
1355
00:57:59,709 --> 00:58:02,478
(cars whirring)
1356
00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:07,083
Yeah, I don't know.
- How does it feel now?
1357
00:58:13,823 --> 00:58:15,758
- I couldn't say.
- Okay.
1358
00:58:16,826 --> 00:58:20,463
(gentle instrumental music)
1359
00:58:39,082 --> 00:58:39,883
- So I've been
living out of a hotel
1360
00:58:39,883 --> 00:58:40,550
for over two months now.
1361
00:58:40,683 --> 00:58:42,552
I worked my off every day.
1362
00:58:42,552 --> 00:58:45,021
The coaches said to go to
as many classes as I can,
1363
00:58:45,021 --> 00:58:46,689
so that's what I do.
1364
00:58:46,689 --> 00:58:48,458
I'm in Miami, but I've
barely seen anything
1365
00:58:48,458 --> 00:58:50,393
but the gym and the hotel.
1366
00:58:50,393 --> 00:58:52,462
Not like I have a
social life here anyway.
1367
00:58:53,363 --> 00:58:55,598
- Every day, every single day,
1368
00:58:55,598 --> 00:58:58,268
you know, she's very
like consistent.
1369
00:58:58,268 --> 00:59:01,070
Like every day here, every
day doing the same technique
1370
00:59:01,070 --> 00:59:02,372
over and over again.
1371
00:59:03,206 --> 00:59:04,240
And patient, a lot of patience.
1372
00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:07,143
She's very nice.
1373
00:59:07,143 --> 00:59:08,211
- I want to open doors.
1374
00:59:08,211 --> 00:59:09,846
I want people to say,
1375
00:59:09,846 --> 00:59:13,249
"Okay, trans people are
just like anybody else",
1376
00:59:13,249 --> 00:59:16,019
and that we deserve
a place in public
1377
00:59:16,019 --> 00:59:17,420
along with anyone else.
1378
00:59:17,420 --> 00:59:20,256
We deserve to be part
of athletic programs.
1379
00:59:20,256 --> 00:59:23,493
We deserve to exist
in public life.
1380
00:59:25,128 --> 00:59:28,998
This fight, it's not
the most important one,
1381
00:59:28,998 --> 00:59:31,067
but it's definitely one of
the most important steps
1382
00:59:31,067 --> 00:59:32,635
along the way, because
it's definitely
1383
00:59:32,635 --> 00:59:34,637
not gonna be given to us.
1384
00:59:34,637 --> 00:59:37,440
- Look, I really believe in
giving people opportunity,
1385
00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:39,676
I really do, it's why
I started this company.
1386
00:59:39,676 --> 00:59:43,146
And certainly Alana
deserves an opportunity.
1387
00:59:43,146 --> 00:59:45,348
As the head of the company,
I had to be really aware,
1388
00:59:45,348 --> 00:59:47,617
we were using a lot of resources
1389
00:59:47,617 --> 00:59:49,519
just to get her a training camp.
1390
00:59:49,519 --> 00:59:51,287
Do I think she's worth it?
1391
00:59:51,287 --> 00:59:52,188
Yeah, hell yeah.
1392
00:59:52,188 --> 00:59:53,489
That's why we did it.
1393
00:59:53,489 --> 00:59:56,225
But I don't want anyone to think
1394
00:59:56,225 --> 00:59:57,827
this was an easy thing to do.
1395
00:59:57,827 --> 00:59:59,729
We didn't go over the
top in promoting it,
1396
00:59:59,729 --> 01:00:01,164
we just put her on the card.
1397
01:00:01,164 --> 01:00:04,400
I wanted to give her a
shot and that's what I did.
1398
01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:08,271
(Dumar speaking in Spanish)
1399
01:00:11,774 --> 01:00:15,812
(Cristian speaking in Spanish)
1400
01:00:31,127 --> 01:00:34,397
- To say something
positive is so hard,
1401
01:00:34,397 --> 01:00:35,431
but to say something negative,
1402
01:00:35,431 --> 01:00:37,100
to get people attention,
1403
01:00:37,100 --> 01:00:38,568
oh, that's very fast.
1404
01:00:38,568 --> 01:00:40,436
I don't allow that
here, you know?
1405
01:00:40,436 --> 01:00:43,039
They know that our
mentality here,
1406
01:00:43,039 --> 01:00:45,575
we are the coaches
and we have open mind.
1407
01:00:45,575 --> 01:00:47,577
We don't care about
like what you want,
1408
01:00:47,577 --> 01:00:50,046
what you are doing outside,
1409
01:00:50,046 --> 01:00:52,448
as long as you come
and respect the gym,
1410
01:00:52,448 --> 01:00:53,950
that's what we want,
1411
01:00:53,950 --> 01:00:55,084
and that's why I think
that's what they want too.
1412
01:00:55,084 --> 01:00:57,720
- Like everybody has
this idea in their heads
1413
01:00:57,720 --> 01:00:58,988
of a trans woman as being
1414
01:00:58,988 --> 01:01:01,691
like some six and a
half foot tall ogre
1415
01:01:01,691 --> 01:01:04,594
that's 400 pounds of
muscle with warts and hair,
1416
01:01:04,594 --> 01:01:07,363
and like, That's
not what we are.
1417
01:01:07,363 --> 01:01:08,598
This is a sport.
1418
01:01:08,598 --> 01:01:11,668
There are rules,
there are referees,
1419
01:01:11,668 --> 01:01:12,702
there are doctors.
1420
01:01:12,702 --> 01:01:16,239
I'm 5'7", I'm fighting at 145.
1421
01:01:16,239 --> 01:01:19,742
Pre-transition I was
walking around 190 pounds,
1422
01:01:19,742 --> 01:01:23,312
like 6% body fat, eating
anything I wanted,
1423
01:01:23,312 --> 01:01:25,181
didn't have to put in
that much time at the gym.
1424
01:01:25,181 --> 01:01:28,451
And now I'm in there
every day busting my ass
1425
01:01:28,451 --> 01:01:30,620
- I don't know for everybody,
1426
01:01:30,620 --> 01:01:32,789
but for me, no problem.
1427
01:01:32,789 --> 01:01:36,759
(Cristian speaking in Spanish)
1428
01:01:44,367 --> 01:01:47,904
(Mariel speaking in Spanish)
1429
01:01:54,110 --> 01:01:56,379
- Hard worker, respectful,
1430
01:01:56,379 --> 01:01:57,580
and she put in the
work, you know,
1431
01:01:57,580 --> 01:01:59,282
and that's all I need here.
1432
01:01:59,282 --> 01:02:02,719
Be respectful, show
up for class on time,
1433
01:02:02,719 --> 01:02:05,254
listen it to the
coach, and that's it.
1434
01:02:05,254 --> 01:02:06,989
We've never had a problem.
1435
01:02:06,989 --> 01:02:09,358
- I'm nervous
because I'm excited,
1436
01:02:09,358 --> 01:02:13,396
because man, just being in that,
1437
01:02:14,263 --> 01:02:15,231
I feel like I'm fighting.
1438
01:02:15,231 --> 01:02:16,365
- Everyone's treated me well,
1439
01:02:16,365 --> 01:02:17,733
we've had really good training.
1440
01:02:17,733 --> 01:02:19,602
I've gotten, you know,
1441
01:02:19,602 --> 01:02:22,872
lots of personal attention
from lots of amazing fighters,
1442
01:02:22,872 --> 01:02:25,875
and everybody on the
team has been great.
1443
01:02:25,875 --> 01:02:27,276
- [Cesar] Yeah, she improved
a lot and she's very,
1444
01:02:27,276 --> 01:02:28,678
very, very intelligent.
1445
01:02:31,714 --> 01:02:33,950
- [Marino] You just
need to keep training,
1446
01:02:33,950 --> 01:02:35,551
just keep tightening it up,
1447
01:02:35,551 --> 01:02:39,255
sharpening up our tools and
just keep pushing, you know?
1448
01:02:39,255 --> 01:02:42,091
(suspenseful music)
1449
01:02:47,463 --> 01:02:50,433
(blows thudding)
1450
01:02:56,672 --> 01:02:59,709
(suspenseful music)
1451
01:03:02,778 --> 01:03:05,715
(suspenseful music)
1452
01:03:05,715 --> 01:03:08,284
- I am checked into
the fight hotel.
1453
01:03:08,284 --> 01:03:10,987
I'm firmly in the COVID bubble.
1454
01:03:12,221 --> 01:03:17,126
Boom.
(plane whirring)
1455
01:03:17,627 --> 01:03:18,594
Almost there.
1456
01:03:20,229 --> 01:03:21,497
(suspenseful music)
1457
01:03:21,497 --> 01:03:23,833
So this is a little
personal sauna.
1458
01:03:25,201 --> 01:03:27,403
The promotion has provided
these for all the fighters
1459
01:03:27,403 --> 01:03:28,604
to help us make weight.
1460
01:03:29,739 --> 01:03:31,607
It's pumping steam
directly into here,
1461
01:03:33,009 --> 01:03:35,978
so you get heated up inside
here, lets you work up a sweat.
1462
01:03:37,346 --> 01:03:39,615
Combate Global kept their
cards close to the chest.
1463
01:03:39,615 --> 01:03:41,884
They didn't hype the fight
and kept it on the undercard,
1464
01:03:41,884 --> 01:03:43,786
but "The Guardian" just
ran an article on me,
1465
01:03:43,786 --> 01:03:46,255
so I think people are
gonna know about it.
1466
01:03:46,255 --> 01:03:48,558
This cat's out of
the proverbial bag.
1467
01:03:48,558 --> 01:03:51,761
(suspenseful music)
1468
01:03:58,634 --> 01:04:01,537
- [Interviewer #4]
Why are you so angry?
1469
01:04:01,537 --> 01:04:06,642
- Because we just went over
for the PCR testing for COVID,
1470
01:04:08,077 --> 01:04:11,247
because of this damn
pandemic, when will it end?
1471
01:04:11,247 --> 01:04:15,718
And one of my teammates
walked up wearing MAGA hat.
1472
01:04:18,688 --> 01:04:23,659
And yeah, like nothing
makes my blood boil
1473
01:04:24,460 --> 01:04:26,329
like seeing that shit.
1474
01:04:26,329 --> 01:04:28,931
I guess apparently
Colby gave it to him,
1475
01:04:30,433 --> 01:04:32,201
and considering the release
of the article yesterday
1476
01:04:32,201 --> 01:04:35,037
and trans flag
everywhere, and you know,
1477
01:04:35,037 --> 01:04:36,873
I wonder if that was
a calculated move
1478
01:04:36,873 --> 01:04:38,674
to throw me off, you know?
1479
01:04:40,376 --> 01:04:42,812
So that's the thing about this
1480
01:04:42,812 --> 01:04:47,817
is you're supposed
to be able to trust
1481
01:04:49,352 --> 01:04:52,021
the people in your gym to have
your best interest in mind.
1482
01:04:52,021 --> 01:04:56,993
And it's really
hard to believe that
1483
01:04:56,993 --> 01:04:59,128
when I see that shit
out there, you know?
1484
01:04:59,896 --> 01:05:01,197
Oh, there he goes.
1485
01:05:03,432 --> 01:05:05,001
There he fucking goes, awesome.
1486
01:05:06,135 --> 01:05:07,637
He's always been decent
to me in the gym.
1487
01:05:07,637 --> 01:05:09,038
But, you know,
1488
01:05:09,038 --> 01:05:12,608
all this bullshit about
civility politics, like,
1489
01:05:12,608 --> 01:05:14,911
how am I supposed to be civil
when somebody's walking around
1490
01:05:14,911 --> 01:05:16,412
with a sign on their
head that says,
1491
01:05:16,412 --> 01:05:19,415
"Fuck you, die", you know?
1492
01:05:19,415 --> 01:05:22,151
So yeah, I'm a little angry.
1493
01:05:27,857 --> 01:05:30,960
- You know, I think
Alana feels very strongly
1494
01:05:30,960 --> 01:05:35,798
about the right wing of
the Republican party,
1495
01:05:35,798 --> 01:05:40,836
right wing Americans,
the MAGA Americans.
1496
01:05:41,871 --> 01:05:43,739
And I don't believe it's because
1497
01:05:43,739 --> 01:05:44,874
she doesn't think people have
1498
01:05:44,874 --> 01:05:47,076
the right to express themselves.
1499
01:05:47,076 --> 01:05:52,114
I think she believes
those group of people
1500
01:05:53,349 --> 01:05:54,250
and that type of thinking
has led, literally,
1501
01:05:54,250 --> 01:05:55,518
to death threats.
1502
01:05:55,518 --> 01:05:57,620
And it's one thing if you
disagree with somebody,
1503
01:05:57,620 --> 01:05:58,821
but it's quite another thing
1504
01:05:58,821 --> 01:06:01,223
if death threats follow
the disagreement.
1505
01:06:01,223 --> 01:06:03,292
And I know she's
had death threats.
1506
01:06:03,292 --> 01:06:06,262
I have seen them,
I've seen them online,
1507
01:06:06,262 --> 01:06:08,564
I've heard what
people say about her.
1508
01:06:08,564 --> 01:06:13,736
I think for Alana, this is
not merely a political debate,
1509
01:06:15,204 --> 01:06:19,408
I think this is quite literally
a life or death situation.
1510
01:06:20,242 --> 01:06:21,410
You know, I keep saying to her,
1511
01:06:21,410 --> 01:06:23,179
"You don't have to
fight every fight.
1512
01:06:23,179 --> 01:06:26,749
Wearing an Antifa hat is not
gonna endear you to people.
1513
01:06:26,749 --> 01:06:30,219
You gotta think about, are
you trying to bring people
1514
01:06:31,554 --> 01:06:33,456
to your side or are you
trying to fight everyone?"
1515
01:06:33,456 --> 01:06:35,391
- Our next fighter to
set foot on the scales
1516
01:06:35,391 --> 01:06:37,827
is three rounds,
featherweight division.
1517
01:06:37,827 --> 01:06:41,063
(presenter speaking in Spanish)
1518
01:06:41,063 --> 01:06:42,798
Out of Paris, France,
1519
01:06:42,798 --> 01:06:45,935
Celine Provost on the scale.
1520
01:06:45,935 --> 01:06:48,604
(suspenseful music)
1521
01:06:48,604 --> 01:06:51,240
142.6.
1522
01:06:51,240 --> 01:06:53,209
(presenter speaking in Spanish)
1523
01:06:53,209 --> 01:06:56,078
Debuting inside of La
Jaula out of Portland,
1524
01:06:56,078 --> 01:06:58,481
Oregon, on the scale,
1525
01:06:58,481 --> 01:07:00,282
Alana McLaughlin.
1526
01:07:01,951 --> 01:07:03,753
(suspenseful music)
1527
01:07:03,753 --> 01:07:05,988
144.6.
1528
01:07:05,988 --> 01:07:10,159
(presenter speaking in Spanish)
1529
01:07:11,660 --> 01:07:14,764
(suspenseful music)
1530
01:07:22,038 --> 01:07:25,207
(suspenseful music)
1531
01:07:28,978 --> 01:07:30,746
- First time I've
broadcast any sport
1532
01:07:30,746 --> 01:07:32,515
with a transgender
or trans athlete.
1533
01:07:32,515 --> 01:07:34,083
I don't know what's
gonna happen,
1534
01:07:34,083 --> 01:07:35,818
but I'm really curious to see
1535
01:07:35,818 --> 01:07:38,721
what the conversation's
gonna be like afterwards.
1536
01:07:38,721 --> 01:07:41,624
- [Alana] Don't think I've
ever been this popular.
1537
01:07:41,624 --> 01:07:44,960
- I was impressed that it was
promoted in a respectful way
1538
01:07:44,960 --> 01:07:46,529
and not made into a spectacle.
1539
01:07:46,529 --> 01:07:48,097
I think it was promoted
1540
01:07:48,097 --> 01:07:51,567
just like any other
undercard pro debut fight
1541
01:07:51,567 --> 01:07:53,702
would've been promoted
in the women's division
1542
01:07:53,702 --> 01:07:55,204
or the men's division.
1543
01:07:55,204 --> 01:07:57,540
- I think we're both
probably gonna come forward
1544
01:07:57,540 --> 01:07:58,541
and meet in the middle.
1545
01:08:00,076 --> 01:08:03,579
And I expect her to
try to use her reach
1546
01:08:03,579 --> 01:08:04,914
to keep me on the outside,
1547
01:08:04,914 --> 01:08:07,283
and I'm gonna try to
get my way inside,
1548
01:08:07,283 --> 01:08:10,719
and either go for the take
down or really punish her body.
1549
01:08:10,719 --> 01:08:12,254
(gentle instrumental music)
1550
01:08:12,254 --> 01:08:14,990
- [Interviewer #5] What kind
of fight are you expecting?
1551
01:08:14,990 --> 01:08:16,892
- From my part, technical one.
1552
01:08:16,892 --> 01:08:18,494
From her part, maybe brawl,
1553
01:08:18,494 --> 01:08:21,697
because I'm pretty sure she
would like to punch my body
1554
01:08:21,697 --> 01:08:23,165
and get to my legs.
1555
01:08:24,533 --> 01:08:27,636
- I've been telling her to
try not to be nervous (laughs)
1556
01:08:27,636 --> 01:08:30,372
and just go out there
and give her her best,
1557
01:08:30,372 --> 01:08:34,610
and use every bit of
technique that she's learned.
1558
01:08:34,610 --> 01:08:36,112
- I'd like to be like,
1559
01:08:36,112 --> 01:08:39,048
"Oh yeah, I'm gonna be a
world champion one day",
1560
01:08:39,048 --> 01:08:40,683
like that's what
every fighter wants.
1561
01:08:40,683 --> 01:08:44,687
But the fact of the matter
is I'm making my debut at 38,
1562
01:08:44,687 --> 01:08:49,258
so I'm just going to go in here
and run it as long as I can.
1563
01:08:49,258 --> 01:08:51,927
Let's just see how
many fights I can get.
1564
01:08:54,096 --> 01:08:56,165
- It is Miami, it's
a Friday night,
1565
01:08:56,165 --> 01:08:57,766
and you know what that means?
1566
01:08:57,766 --> 01:08:59,535
Another massive card,
1567
01:08:59,535 --> 01:09:02,671
two undefeated fighters
looking to stay that way,
1568
01:09:02,671 --> 01:09:06,108
and also a historic moment
in mixed martial arts.
1569
01:09:06,108 --> 01:09:08,511
We will get to all
of that here shortly,
1570
01:09:08,511 --> 01:09:10,279
but allowing me to
make the introductions.
1571
01:09:10,279 --> 01:09:11,947
My name is Max Bretos,
1572
01:09:11,947 --> 01:09:13,349
and we're joined today
by Rodolfo Roman.
1573
01:09:13,349 --> 01:09:14,617
How are you doing, Rodolfo?
1574
01:09:14,617 --> 01:09:15,885
- Thank you, Max.
1575
01:09:15,885 --> 01:09:17,386
Absolutely great,
1576
01:09:17,386 --> 01:09:18,521
looking forward to a
stellar fight card tonight.
1577
01:09:18,521 --> 01:09:20,155
We have a great one,
including history.
1578
01:09:20,155 --> 01:09:25,227
♪ Oh say, can you see
- Fight night.
1579
01:09:25,861 --> 01:09:27,162
No matter how much
1580
01:09:27,162 --> 01:09:28,731
♪ By the dawns early light
- weight I cut,
1581
01:09:28,731 --> 01:09:30,466
I feel the crushing weight of
expectation on my shoulders.
1582
01:09:30,466 --> 01:09:33,102
I'm the first trans fighter
to do this since Fallon Fox,
1583
01:09:33,102 --> 01:09:35,504
and the world's a
different place.
1584
01:09:35,504 --> 01:09:37,373
I just don't wanna
let anyone down.
1585
01:09:38,440 --> 01:09:40,509
- I was excited leading
up to that fight,
1586
01:09:40,509 --> 01:09:43,379
I was excited on
the night of it,
1587
01:09:43,379 --> 01:09:45,347
but I had no idea
what was coming.
1588
01:09:45,347 --> 01:09:48,784
You have all the pre-fight
stuff, all the pre-interviews,
1589
01:09:48,784 --> 01:09:50,786
all those things,
and then it was time.
1590
01:09:52,154 --> 01:09:55,958
And seeing Celine Provost
first come out into the cage,
1591
01:09:55,958 --> 01:09:57,326
that said, I'm ready for this.
1592
01:09:57,326 --> 01:10:00,029
- Celine is a tough
fighter, over towers her.
1593
01:10:00,029 --> 01:10:03,799
What she needs to do is play
that reach to her advantage.
1594
01:10:03,799 --> 01:10:06,101
- And then Alana comes up.
1595
01:10:06,101 --> 01:10:10,239
(presenter speaking in Spanish)
1596
01:10:11,607 --> 01:10:13,642
- [Karleigh] And then
she unfurls this flag,
1597
01:10:13,642 --> 01:10:15,377
arms stretched out.
1598
01:10:15,377 --> 01:10:16,879
And at that point I'm smiling
1599
01:10:16,879 --> 01:10:19,415
and I'm also have a little
bit of happy tears going,
1600
01:10:19,415 --> 01:10:22,651
because at that moment that
was Alana sending a message
1601
01:10:22,651 --> 01:10:23,686
that we needed.
1602
01:10:25,454 --> 01:10:28,757
That so many of us as trans
people living out in the world,
1603
01:10:28,757 --> 01:10:31,393
and in many ways in
a bunker mentality,
1604
01:10:31,393 --> 01:10:34,730
we needed to see her stepping
out with pride and saying,
1605
01:10:34,730 --> 01:10:37,099
"Yes, I am Alana McLaughlin,
1606
01:10:37,099 --> 01:10:39,001
this is who I am."
1607
01:10:39,001 --> 01:10:43,138
(presenters speaking in Spanish)
1608
01:10:51,547 --> 01:10:53,749
- [Karleigh] And when she walked
in that cage at that point,
1609
01:10:53,749 --> 01:10:55,050
it was nothing but pride.
1610
01:10:56,285 --> 01:10:59,888
And no one can say
anything to take that away.
1611
01:10:59,888 --> 01:11:04,026
(presenter speaking in Spanish)
1612
01:11:14,236 --> 01:11:15,571
- [Presenter #1] Introducing
the blue corner, wearing black.
1613
01:11:15,571 --> 01:11:18,707
(presenter speaking in Spanish)
1614
01:11:18,707 --> 01:11:20,609
- [Presenter #1] Her official
weight, 142.5 pounds.
1615
01:11:21,910 --> 01:11:26,615
(presenter speaking in Spanish)
1616
01:11:26,615 --> 01:11:28,117
- [Presenter #1]
She enters La Jaula
1617
01:11:28,117 --> 01:11:31,453
for the second time as a pro,
with a record of one defeat.
1618
01:11:31,453 --> 01:11:32,755
(presenter speaking in Spanish)
1619
01:11:32,755 --> 01:11:37,626
- [Presenter #1] Celine
"Tall Blondie" Provost.
1620
01:11:40,095 --> 01:11:41,563
(presenter speaking in Spanish)
1621
01:11:41,563 --> 01:11:42,164
- [Presenter #1] Her
opponent in the red corner,
1622
01:11:42,164 --> 01:11:43,699
wearing white.
1623
01:11:43,699 --> 01:11:46,468
She tipped the scales at
an official 144.5 pounds.
1624
01:11:46,468 --> 01:11:49,138
Tonight inside of La Jaula
1625
01:11:49,138 --> 01:11:52,107
she is making her
professional debut,
1626
01:11:52,107 --> 01:11:54,376
fighting out of
Portland, Oregon.
1627
01:11:54,376 --> 01:11:59,515
"Lady Feral" Alana McLaughlin.
1628
01:12:00,849 --> 01:12:02,451
- [Alana] Other fighters
have their struggles,
1629
01:12:02,451 --> 01:12:05,487
but they couldn't handle
what it took me to get here.
1630
01:12:05,487 --> 01:12:07,756
I always hate when fighters
say it's war in the cage.
1631
01:12:07,756 --> 01:12:10,092
I've been to war
and this ain't it.
1632
01:12:10,092 --> 01:12:11,493
I like this kind of fight.
1633
01:12:11,493 --> 01:12:13,162
Nobody's dying, there are rules,
1634
01:12:13,162 --> 01:12:16,598
there's a ref, my opponent
doesn't hate me for being trans.
1635
01:12:16,598 --> 01:12:19,535
She just wants to beat
me and I wanna beat her.
1636
01:12:20,369 --> 01:12:22,304
I could really use a win.
1637
01:12:22,304 --> 01:12:23,272
I need this win.
1638
01:12:24,406 --> 01:12:28,544
(presenter speaking in Spanish)
1639
01:12:30,312 --> 01:12:31,980
(bell chimes)
1640
01:12:31,980 --> 01:12:36,618
(presenter speaking in Spanish)
1641
01:12:36,618 --> 01:12:39,154
- [Max] Provost comes out
swinging as we expected.
1642
01:12:40,456 --> 01:12:41,356
- [Rodolfo] And we
can see it right here,
1643
01:12:41,356 --> 01:12:42,591
right from the get go, Max,
1644
01:12:42,591 --> 01:12:44,393
playing the distance,
using her hands,
1645
01:12:44,393 --> 01:12:46,261
her kicks.
- Hands up.
1646
01:12:46,261 --> 01:12:47,830
Hands up.
- Alana not looking like
1647
01:12:47,830 --> 01:12:48,997
the stronger fighter,
1648
01:12:48,997 --> 01:12:50,399
and taking a ton of
punishment coming in.
1649
01:12:50,399 --> 01:12:54,937
(presenter speaking in Spanish)
1650
01:12:54,937 --> 01:12:57,539
(upbeat music)
1651
01:12:58,407 --> 01:13:03,045
(presenter speaking in Spanish)
1652
01:13:03,045 --> 01:13:05,013
- [Rodolfo] Celine connected
there, very, very hard.
1653
01:13:05,013 --> 01:13:06,515
Oh, and another right hook.
1654
01:13:06,515 --> 01:13:09,451
- [Max] Just ton of
activity, a ralley of punches
1655
01:13:09,451 --> 01:13:12,421
from Provost.
- Body, body.
1656
01:13:12,421 --> 01:13:16,725
(presenter speaking in Spanish)
1657
01:13:16,725 --> 01:13:19,328
(upbeat music)
1658
01:13:26,201 --> 01:13:30,339
(presenter speaking in Spanish)
1659
01:13:32,307 --> 01:13:33,776
- [Rodolfo] A bit white cross.
1660
01:13:33,776 --> 01:13:35,878
And Celine's gonna keep
going for that one, two.
1661
01:13:35,878 --> 01:13:37,513
- [Max] Alana with
a big uppercut.
1662
01:13:37,513 --> 01:13:38,781
- Hands up.
- Now, Alana is just swinging
1663
01:13:38,781 --> 01:13:40,048
for the fences to see
if she catches her.
1664
01:13:40,048 --> 01:13:42,718
Celine being the smart
fighter, very technical,
1665
01:13:42,718 --> 01:13:44,253
very skilled.
1666
01:13:44,253 --> 01:13:46,188
And that's exactly what she's
doing with that one, two,
1667
01:13:46,188 --> 01:13:47,523
which has been
working all along.
1668
01:13:47,523 --> 01:13:49,458
- [Max] Two minutes to
go in this opening round.
1669
01:13:49,458 --> 01:13:51,059
McLaughlin observing pressures.
1670
01:13:51,059 --> 01:13:52,628
- [Rodolfo] Alana needs
to keep her hands up
1671
01:13:52,628 --> 01:13:54,062
and her head up.
1672
01:13:54,062 --> 01:13:58,233
(presenters speaking in Spanish)
1673
01:14:05,207 --> 01:14:06,642
- [Max] Alana just
swinging here.
1674
01:14:11,680 --> 01:14:14,349
Right from McLaughlin,
with a second overhead.
1675
01:14:14,349 --> 01:14:16,251
(presenter speaking in Spanish)
1676
01:14:16,251 --> 01:14:17,386
- [Rodolfo] Now what
Celine needs to do
1677
01:14:17,386 --> 01:14:19,488
is that one, two
move, one, two, move.
1678
01:14:20,722 --> 01:14:22,858
It's more like she's
throwing and she backs off.
1679
01:14:22,858 --> 01:14:25,594
If she's continuous, she
can have this in the pocket
1680
01:14:25,594 --> 01:14:27,896
and call it a day.
- Yes.
1681
01:14:27,896 --> 01:14:30,098
(upbeat music)
1682
01:14:30,098 --> 01:14:31,300
- [Max] Come on, set it off.
1683
01:14:31,300 --> 01:14:33,836
(gavels banging)
1684
01:14:33,836 --> 01:14:35,671
We will take a break.
1685
01:14:35,671 --> 01:14:39,775
A fascinating first round
between Provost and McLaughlin.
1686
01:14:39,775 --> 01:14:41,643
We'll take a quick break back
1687
01:14:41,643 --> 01:14:43,645
and be back for ground number 2.
1688
01:14:43,645 --> 01:14:47,683
(presenters speaking in Spanish)
1689
01:15:01,897 --> 01:15:04,466
(upbeat music)
1690
01:15:04,867 --> 01:15:08,270
- [Medic #1] Breathe,
breathe, breath.
1691
01:15:09,204 --> 01:15:11,240
Big breath, big breath.
1692
01:15:11,240 --> 01:15:12,875
- [Marino] Remember, hey,
1693
01:15:12,875 --> 01:15:14,376
you gotta keep pressure, but
you gotta keep your hands up.
1694
01:15:14,376 --> 01:15:15,544
You gotta move your head.
1695
01:15:15,544 --> 01:15:17,746
You giving too much
of that jab time
1696
01:15:17,746 --> 01:15:20,382
'cause you're keeping
yourself straight, okay?
1697
01:15:20,382 --> 01:15:25,420
Alright, breathe, okay?
(whistle shrilling)
1698
01:15:32,127 --> 01:15:35,964
(presenter speaking in Spanish)
1699
01:15:46,875 --> 01:15:48,744
- [Referee] Ready?
1700
01:15:48,744 --> 01:15:49,912
(bells chiming)
1701
01:15:49,912 --> 01:15:51,313
- [Max] Back here
for round number two.
1702
01:15:51,313 --> 01:15:53,282
A different looking
Alana McLaughlin,
1703
01:15:53,282 --> 01:15:54,683
she took a lot of punishment.
1704
01:15:54,683 --> 01:15:58,854
(presenters speaking in Spanish)
1705
01:16:09,031 --> 01:16:10,766
- [Rodolfo] You can
see that Celine's
1706
01:16:10,766 --> 01:16:12,067
trying to go for the kick to
the midsection or the rib area,
1707
01:16:12,067 --> 01:16:15,604
but it was blocked by
that elbow from Alana.
1708
01:16:16,505 --> 01:16:20,609
(presenters speaking in Spanish)
1709
01:16:28,650 --> 01:16:31,853
(suspenseful music)
1710
01:16:32,988 --> 01:16:35,324
- [Max] Oh, McLaughlin
coming up big,
1711
01:16:35,324 --> 01:16:36,658
and now Provost has to survive.
1712
01:16:36,658 --> 01:16:39,261
A lot of punishments,
the knees coming in.
1713
01:16:39,261 --> 01:16:42,197
(presenter speaking in Spanish)
1714
01:16:42,197 --> 01:16:45,367
(suspenseful music)
1715
01:16:45,367 --> 01:16:46,601
- [Narrator #13] And again.
1716
01:16:46,601 --> 01:16:48,136
(suspenseful music)
1717
01:16:48,136 --> 01:16:49,805
- [Max] Does pretty well,
gets her on the ground,
1718
01:16:49,805 --> 01:16:51,807
now we can see how
her ground game.
1719
01:16:51,807 --> 01:16:55,010
(presenter speaking in Spanish)
1720
01:16:55,010 --> 01:16:56,511
Alana McLaughlin has
absorbed a lot of pressure,
1721
01:16:56,511 --> 01:16:58,747
but now has the upper hand.
1722
01:16:59,614 --> 01:17:02,951
(presenter speaking in Spanish)
1723
01:17:02,951 --> 01:17:06,355
(suspenseful music)
1724
01:17:06,355 --> 01:17:10,392
(presenter speaking in Spanish)
1725
01:17:17,833 --> 01:17:19,768
- [Max] McLaughlin's
got the back of Provost
1726
01:17:19,768 --> 01:17:22,270
and now she starts.
- We have rear naked choke.
1727
01:17:22,270 --> 01:17:23,772
- And a tap.
- And a tap.
1728
01:17:23,772 --> 01:17:28,810
- [Max] Alana McLaughlin,
victorious in her MMA debut
1729
01:17:29,544 --> 01:17:31,213
via the rear naked choke.
1730
01:17:31,213 --> 01:17:36,251
Had to take a lot of pressure
to get there, but she did.
1731
01:17:36,251 --> 01:17:40,088
(presenter speaking in Spanish)
1732
01:17:47,929 --> 01:17:50,565
- We have just
witnessed history.
1733
01:17:51,667 --> 01:17:53,502
I'll be honest, it
was a weird sensation
1734
01:17:53,502 --> 01:17:55,504
as a broadcaster
to go through that,
1735
01:17:55,504 --> 01:17:56,738
to talk about these fights.
1736
01:17:56,738 --> 01:17:58,306
But something that
we were able to see
1737
01:17:58,306 --> 01:18:01,510
and something we take
away from all of this.
1738
01:18:01,510 --> 01:18:02,744
- [Presenter #1]
Ladies and gentlemen,
1739
01:18:02,744 --> 01:18:04,312
the red corner sinks
in a rear naked choke,
1740
01:18:04,312 --> 01:18:05,914
forcing her opponent to tap,
1741
01:18:05,914 --> 01:18:07,549
with an official time
of three minutes,
1742
01:18:07,549 --> 01:18:10,018
32 seconds of round number two,
1743
01:18:10,018 --> 01:18:12,688
your winner in
way of submission.
1744
01:18:12,688 --> 01:18:14,956
(presenter speaking in Spanish)
1745
01:18:14,956 --> 01:18:17,459
- [Presenter #1] "Lady
Farrell" Alana Mclaughlin.
1746
01:18:20,595 --> 01:18:21,863
- I remember seeing
her on screen
1747
01:18:21,863 --> 01:18:23,098
that moment when they
announced her name
1748
01:18:23,098 --> 01:18:24,933
and this little smile
went over her face,
1749
01:18:24,933 --> 01:18:26,635
and I could see the
intense pride that she had
1750
01:18:26,635 --> 01:18:29,371
for herself at that moment,
which made me so proud for her.
1751
01:18:29,371 --> 01:18:32,474
- That was Ali-Foreman big
deal for a trans person.
1752
01:18:32,474 --> 01:18:36,645
And also there was the
t-shirt, end trans genocide,
1753
01:18:38,146 --> 01:18:42,150
taking that little bit of an
opportunity to send the message
1754
01:18:42,150 --> 01:18:43,685
that needed to be sent.
1755
01:18:43,685 --> 01:18:45,087
I wrote in "Outsports"
1756
01:18:45,087 --> 01:18:49,891
that it was like a wake
was drafting behind her.
1757
01:18:51,293 --> 01:18:54,830
And in that wake were 1.6
million transgender people
1758
01:18:54,830 --> 01:18:56,164
right along with her.
1759
01:18:56,164 --> 01:18:58,667
- I dedicate this
fight to my friends
1760
01:18:58,667 --> 01:18:59,968
and comrades back in Portland,
1761
01:18:59,968 --> 01:19:02,104
everybody that's stuck
with me the whole way.
1762
01:19:02,104 --> 01:19:04,039
Again, my team, amazing.
1763
01:19:04,873 --> 01:19:06,408
I can't thank them enough.
1764
01:19:06,408 --> 01:19:11,246
- To me that was a very
good way for this to happen.
1765
01:19:11,246 --> 01:19:14,049
Like the people said, you
had such huge advantage,
1766
01:19:14,049 --> 01:19:15,417
and this and that,
1767
01:19:15,417 --> 01:19:18,887
and you got your ass
beat in that first round,
1768
01:19:18,887 --> 01:19:20,922
you got rocked that one time.
1769
01:19:20,922 --> 01:19:24,159
I thought the round was over
when she got hit like that,
1770
01:19:24,159 --> 01:19:26,728
- Once she hit me a few times,
like rocked me real good,
1771
01:19:26,728 --> 01:19:29,164
my game plan kind of
went out the window,
1772
01:19:29,164 --> 01:19:32,267
and I just started fighting
on instinct, and emotion,
1773
01:19:32,267 --> 01:19:34,169
and it's not really
what I wanted to do.
1774
01:19:34,169 --> 01:19:38,140
I wanted to be a lot more
crisp and technical in there
1775
01:19:38,140 --> 01:19:40,041
and it just kind of
turned into a brawl.
1776
01:19:41,710 --> 01:19:44,412
(Marino humming)
1777
01:19:44,412 --> 01:19:47,082
- I think Celine was a
tough opponent, you know,
1778
01:19:47,082 --> 01:19:48,650
she rocked her a
couple of times,
1779
01:19:48,650 --> 01:19:51,052
surprised her a couple of times.
1780
01:19:51,052 --> 01:19:53,088
- She's really representing
transgender athletes
1781
01:19:53,088 --> 01:19:55,624
and representing
transgender people well.
1782
01:19:55,624 --> 01:19:59,528
And I can't wait to see what
she has to do in the future.
1783
01:19:59,528 --> 01:20:03,798
- Alana said to me, if she wins,
1784
01:20:03,798 --> 01:20:08,270
she wins because she's a
woman that's really a man.
1785
01:20:08,270 --> 01:20:11,573
And if she loses
then she's, you know,
1786
01:20:12,507 --> 01:20:15,243
just a real weakling.
1787
01:20:15,243 --> 01:20:16,678
She couldn't win.
1788
01:20:16,678 --> 01:20:21,216
There was no outcome that
her detractors would not say,
1789
01:20:21,216 --> 01:20:24,219
"Look how bad she is."
1790
01:20:24,219 --> 01:20:28,023
I think winning with
jujitsu was good
1791
01:20:29,991 --> 01:20:34,763
because jujitsu is a martial
art that emphasizes skill,
1792
01:20:35,697 --> 01:20:38,733
not strength, not brutality,
1793
01:20:38,733 --> 01:20:40,869
not brute force.
1794
01:20:40,869 --> 01:20:43,238
And so for her to win this way,
1795
01:20:43,238 --> 01:20:45,307
it's just the best
possible outcome.
1796
01:20:46,441 --> 01:20:47,609
- She's tough as nails,
1797
01:20:47,609 --> 01:20:49,277
gosh, she's tough.
1798
01:20:49,277 --> 01:20:50,812
I thanked her.
1799
01:20:50,812 --> 01:20:53,648
What I said to her
was, nous defions,
1800
01:20:53,648 --> 01:20:55,617
which is French for we defy.
1801
01:20:55,617 --> 01:20:57,285
It was one of the slogans
1802
01:20:57,285 --> 01:21:00,555
of the French resistance
fighters back in World War II.
1803
01:21:00,555 --> 01:21:03,725
And then it got rolled over
into like special operations,
1804
01:21:03,725 --> 01:21:06,795
and it felt appropriate
at the time.
1805
01:21:08,430 --> 01:21:11,299
The gravity of the situation
hasn't really sunk in yet,
1806
01:21:11,299 --> 01:21:12,067
I guess.
1807
01:21:13,602 --> 01:21:15,804
Like I know a lot of people
are gonna have a lot to say.
1808
01:21:17,706 --> 01:21:18,740
What's next for me, hopefully,
1809
01:21:18,740 --> 01:21:19,608
is another fight.
1810
01:21:19,741 --> 01:21:22,811
(suspenseful music)
1811
01:21:25,881 --> 01:21:29,117
(suspenseful music)
1812
01:21:29,985 --> 01:21:32,520
We got a lot of
positive messages from,
1813
01:21:32,520 --> 01:21:34,689
I would say probably mostly
queer and trans people.
1814
01:21:34,689 --> 01:21:36,658
Ad I'm really happy
to have been able
1815
01:21:37,592 --> 01:21:38,860
to elbow my way in there
1816
01:21:38,860 --> 01:21:40,729
and get some
representation, you know?
1817
01:21:40,729 --> 01:21:42,464
The problem is, like,
1818
01:21:42,464 --> 01:21:43,732
because I'm trans
1819
01:21:43,732 --> 01:21:45,000
and because there has been
so much public backlash,
1820
01:21:45,000 --> 01:21:46,768
or there's been
very loud backlash,
1821
01:21:46,768 --> 01:21:49,704
anyone that would
speak in support of me
1822
01:21:49,704 --> 01:21:50,939
is probably too afraid to.
1823
01:21:50,939 --> 01:21:52,908
A lot of folks in the right wing
1824
01:21:52,908 --> 01:21:54,309
are looking for a scapegoat.
1825
01:21:54,309 --> 01:21:57,245
They have a vested interest
in letting that outrage
1826
01:21:57,245 --> 01:21:59,748
continue to be
generated, because they
make money off of it.
1827
01:21:59,748 --> 01:22:01,249
- Today for our
daily cancellation,
1828
01:22:01,249 --> 01:22:03,551
we turn to the story of MMA
fighter and woman beater,
1829
01:22:03,551 --> 01:22:04,853
Alana McLaughlin.
1830
01:22:04,853 --> 01:22:07,389
During the Combate Global
prelims on Friday night,
1831
01:22:07,389 --> 01:22:10,825
McLaughlin fought and easily
defeated Celine Provost,
1832
01:22:10,825 --> 01:22:12,427
another MMA fighter.
1833
01:22:12,427 --> 01:22:13,929
To be more specific, after
beating her across the head
1834
01:22:13,929 --> 01:22:15,263
and the body for a
couple of rounds,
1835
01:22:15,263 --> 01:22:16,698
he eventually got her
into a submission hold
1836
01:22:16,698 --> 01:22:17,499
and choked her out.
1837
01:22:17,499 --> 01:22:18,967
This was, again,
1838
01:22:18,967 --> 01:22:20,302
a man beating the
crap out of a woman.
1839
01:22:20,302 --> 01:22:24,372
- Once you get violence
into the equation, right,
1840
01:22:24,372 --> 01:22:25,807
then all of a sudden
there has to be
1841
01:22:25,807 --> 01:22:27,275
a little bit of pushback.
1842
01:22:27,275 --> 01:22:28,343
Like, do you want these
bitches being beat up
1843
01:22:28,343 --> 01:22:29,644
by a dude who's like
an ex-Navy seal?
1844
01:22:29,644 --> 01:22:31,046
- Just look at this
1845
01:22:31,046 --> 01:22:33,381
as like an animal
observing two other animals
1846
01:22:33,381 --> 01:22:34,382
in a combat mode.
1847
01:22:34,382 --> 01:22:37,285
And you can clearly
see which one
1848
01:22:37,285 --> 01:22:41,356
has a higher likelihood
of harming the other one.
1849
01:22:41,356 --> 01:22:43,358
- Like more people have been
sort of speaking out about it,
1850
01:22:43,358 --> 01:22:45,493
but they still tiptoe around it
1851
01:22:45,493 --> 01:22:49,497
and like use correct pronouns,
or pretend like there's
1852
01:22:49,497 --> 01:22:53,368
some kind of major
difference between a person
1853
01:22:53,368 --> 01:22:54,536
who says they're a
trans woman and a male,
1854
01:22:54,536 --> 01:22:56,037
and there really isn't.
1855
01:22:56,037 --> 01:22:59,441
So I was pretty like grateful
to see you just call it out
1856
01:22:59,441 --> 01:23:01,409
and be like, "No, fuck this."
1857
01:23:01,409 --> 01:23:04,245
- No, I'm just not okay
with men beating up women,
1858
01:23:04,245 --> 01:23:05,814
it's just disgusting and wrong.
1859
01:23:05,814 --> 01:23:07,315
Being an athlete, I know,
1860
01:23:07,315 --> 01:23:08,717
this might be a little sexist,
1861
01:23:08,717 --> 01:23:11,019
but the difference between
men and women is so big.
1862
01:23:11,019 --> 01:23:12,554
I mean, I'm world
class obviously,
1863
01:23:12,554 --> 01:23:15,523
so there might be cases of a
good girl beating a bum guy,
1864
01:23:15,523 --> 01:23:16,992
that definitely could happen.
1865
01:23:16,992 --> 01:23:18,793
But like once you
get to high levels,
1866
01:23:18,793 --> 01:23:21,363
the difference is just so
massive, it's so far from fair.
1867
01:23:21,363 --> 01:23:22,864
Yeah, when I saw the fight
1868
01:23:22,864 --> 01:23:25,500
and I saw the two trans
athletes celebrating, you know,
1869
01:23:25,500 --> 01:23:27,936
who'd both beaten up women,
I thought it was sick.
1870
01:23:27,936 --> 01:23:29,838
And being a fighter, you know,
1871
01:23:29,838 --> 01:23:31,272
I had to go speak my mind,
1872
01:23:31,272 --> 01:23:32,907
and Twitter doesn't leave
much room for nuance.
1873
01:23:32,907 --> 01:23:35,343
So I wasn't saying trans people
are necessarily perverse,
1874
01:23:35,343 --> 01:23:38,646
more saying them fighting
women are sick and perverse,
1875
01:23:38,646 --> 01:23:41,015
- You know, if someone loudly
declares themselves my enemy,
1876
01:23:41,015 --> 01:23:42,283
I believe them.
1877
01:23:42,283 --> 01:23:43,785
If you hate me, I
hate you right back.
1878
01:23:43,785 --> 01:23:47,856
I'm not going outta my way
to ruin someone else's life,
1879
01:23:47,856 --> 01:23:49,891
but they sure as shit are
trying to do it to me.
1880
01:23:49,891 --> 01:23:52,861
- Putting herself out
there in this very, like,
1881
01:23:52,861 --> 01:23:57,499
international public
way to be, you know,
1882
01:23:57,499 --> 01:24:02,170
a target of transphobic hate.
1883
01:24:02,170 --> 01:24:04,639
I do know that it bothers her,
1884
01:24:04,639 --> 01:24:08,276
and I've seen it, but I've
also seen her rise above it.
1885
01:24:08,276 --> 01:24:10,512
- Look at her Twitter, like,
1886
01:24:10,512 --> 01:24:13,348
she says something to somebody,
1887
01:24:13,348 --> 01:24:15,950
and they answer thinking
they've shut her down,
1888
01:24:15,950 --> 01:24:17,919
but she's set them up.
1889
01:24:17,919 --> 01:24:19,521
It's the same as, you know,
1890
01:24:19,521 --> 01:24:22,056
like you give a punch and
the fighter moves back
1891
01:24:22,056 --> 01:24:23,525
and you come in
1892
01:24:23,525 --> 01:24:25,093
or you give a kick and
you move in with a punch,
1893
01:24:25,093 --> 01:24:26,561
she does that online.
1894
01:24:26,561 --> 01:24:28,129
- It's Jake Shields, right?
1895
01:24:29,364 --> 01:24:33,568
He posted pictures of me
before and after, I guess.
1896
01:24:33,568 --> 01:24:35,770
It kind of demonstrates
that, yeah,
1897
01:24:35,770 --> 01:24:37,238
I lost like 50 pounds
of fucking muscle.
1898
01:24:37,238 --> 01:24:40,542
You know, I clearly don't have
the same build that I had.
1899
01:24:40,542 --> 01:24:44,078
I mean, most people that see
those two pictures side by side
1900
01:24:44,078 --> 01:24:45,346
don't think it's the same person
1901
01:24:45,346 --> 01:24:48,683
except the tattoos
match, you know?
1902
01:24:48,683 --> 01:24:50,552
And so he kind of pretty
clearly demonstrated my point,
1903
01:24:50,552 --> 01:24:53,021
and then he kind of slipped up,
1904
01:24:53,021 --> 01:24:54,289
and somebody said
1905
01:24:54,289 --> 01:24:57,659
something about me
being attractive or not.
1906
01:24:57,659 --> 01:25:00,862
And then I think he specifically
said something like,
1907
01:25:00,862 --> 01:25:02,363
"Well, she got hotter, yeah,
1908
01:25:02,363 --> 01:25:04,732
but not my type",
which is just like.
1909
01:25:06,234 --> 01:25:07,435
- I shouldn't be
allowed to have a phone,
1910
01:25:07,435 --> 01:25:09,003
I just tweet weird shit
that pops in my head.
1911
01:25:09,003 --> 01:25:11,806
Like, I am obviously strongly
against the trans athletes,
1912
01:25:11,806 --> 01:25:13,341
but a lot of it's
fooling around.
1913
01:25:13,341 --> 01:25:14,742
You know, I was just
messing around with Alana,
1914
01:25:14,742 --> 01:25:17,378
I don't necessarily
think she's a bad person.
1915
01:25:17,378 --> 01:25:18,913
I don't think she should
be doing what she's doing,
1916
01:25:18,913 --> 01:25:19,781
but I don't have, like,
1917
01:25:19,781 --> 01:25:21,115
hate in my heart.
1918
01:25:21,115 --> 01:25:22,083
You know, originally
I didn't realize
1919
01:25:22,083 --> 01:25:23,384
that the other girl had agreed,
1920
01:25:23,384 --> 01:25:24,752
'cause in the vast
majority of these cases,
1921
01:25:24,752 --> 01:25:26,988
the girls don't have a
choice, they're forced to.
1922
01:25:26,988 --> 01:25:28,490
So that did give
me, like I said,
1923
01:25:28,490 --> 01:25:30,558
it gave me a slightly
different perspective because,
1924
01:25:30,558 --> 01:25:32,026
you know, I do think
for the most part,
1925
01:25:32,026 --> 01:25:34,462
you know, adults should be
able to choose what they do.
1926
01:25:34,462 --> 01:25:36,431
- You'll be amazing
whatever you do,
1927
01:25:36,431 --> 01:25:38,166
you're one of those
annoying people
1928
01:25:38,166 --> 01:25:39,801
that's good at
everything you do,
1929
01:25:40,969 --> 01:25:41,903
and yet we still love you.
1930
01:25:41,903 --> 01:25:43,137
- You say that.
1931
01:25:44,439 --> 01:25:47,575
Yeah, I mean, I don't know.
1932
01:25:47,575 --> 01:25:50,111
We'll just have to
see how shit goes.
1933
01:25:50,111 --> 01:25:51,613
The death threats that I get,
1934
01:25:51,613 --> 01:25:53,715
sometimes it's like open
threats where it's like,
1935
01:25:53,715 --> 01:25:55,316
"Oh, we're gonna
fucking kill you."
1936
01:25:55,316 --> 01:25:58,019
And then other times it'll just
be like a string of letters,
1937
01:25:58,019 --> 01:26:00,922
and it's "You will never
be a woman", you know?
1938
01:26:00,922 --> 01:26:01,823
And it's like,
1939
01:26:01,823 --> 01:26:02,624
"Sorry, I already am,
1940
01:26:02,624 --> 01:26:03,758
you can't fucking change that."
1941
01:26:03,758 --> 01:26:04,726
- Could I be
putting trans people
1942
01:26:04,726 --> 01:26:05,627
in danger with my attitude?
1943
01:26:06,995 --> 01:26:08,596
Honestly, I've absolutely
never thought about that,
1944
01:26:08,596 --> 01:26:11,533
'cause I get so many death
threats from trans athletes
1945
01:26:11,533 --> 01:26:14,736
and these people, and
I never really thought
1946
01:26:14,736 --> 01:26:16,104
that maybe they're
getting the same.
1947
01:26:16,104 --> 01:26:18,640
You know, I certainly hope
I've never done anything
1948
01:26:18,640 --> 01:26:20,775
to trigger anyone
towards violence.
1949
01:26:20,775 --> 01:26:23,545
And you know, I
have to be critical,
1950
01:26:23,545 --> 01:26:25,980
I can't not be critical
of something I believe.
1951
01:26:25,980 --> 01:26:29,417
So I can't be responsible
if someone follows me
1952
01:26:29,417 --> 01:26:30,885
does something crazy.
1953
01:26:30,885 --> 01:26:34,055
- They're literally telling
you to kill yourself.
1954
01:26:34,055 --> 01:26:35,557
But they'll frame it in a way
1955
01:26:35,557 --> 01:26:37,258
where it doesn't get taken
down off of social media.
1956
01:26:37,258 --> 01:26:38,927
Join the 41%,
1957
01:26:38,927 --> 01:26:41,729
because they're citing high
suicide rates in trans youth.
1958
01:26:41,729 --> 01:26:43,598
So Jake Shields will lie to you
1959
01:26:43,598 --> 01:26:45,633
and say that he doesn't advocate
1960
01:26:45,633 --> 01:26:47,569
for violence against
trans people.
1961
01:26:47,569 --> 01:26:49,771
But here he is tweeting
about how teachers
1962
01:26:49,771 --> 01:26:52,473
that affirm trans kids
should be tried and executed.
1963
01:26:52,473 --> 01:26:54,809
Like, if you search
his profile for trans,
1964
01:26:54,809 --> 01:26:57,745
this is it, hundreds
upon hundreds of tweets.
1965
01:26:57,745 --> 01:27:00,715
He talks more about trans
people than trans people do.
1966
01:27:00,715 --> 01:27:02,917
Jake says that it's
only about sports,
1967
01:27:02,917 --> 01:27:05,153
that he doesn't care about
trans people otherwise,
1968
01:27:05,153 --> 01:27:08,756
but here he is calling
trans women mentally ill,
1969
01:27:08,756 --> 01:27:10,458
we're deviants.
1970
01:27:10,458 --> 01:27:12,393
None of this has anything
to do with sports.
1971
01:27:12,393 --> 01:27:13,628
No amount of bending
over backwards
1972
01:27:13,628 --> 01:27:16,598
is going to win anybody over.
1973
01:27:16,598 --> 01:27:19,400
If you wanna stick it
to the woke moralists,
1974
01:27:19,400 --> 01:27:20,768
then you hate trans people.
1975
01:27:20,768 --> 01:27:24,639
- So often social media
becomes an echo chamber,
1976
01:27:24,639 --> 01:27:27,976
and we lose some of the
other really beautiful things
1977
01:27:27,976 --> 01:27:29,777
that are happening
around the country.
1978
01:27:29,777 --> 01:27:33,281
We talk again a lot about how
many bills have introduced.
1979
01:27:33,281 --> 01:27:35,850
The exciting thing
is that last year
1980
01:27:35,850 --> 01:27:40,455
we stopped 96% of those
bills from passing.
1981
01:27:40,455 --> 01:27:42,023
The other really positive things
1982
01:27:42,023 --> 01:27:45,260
that we're seeing is
just more visibility
1983
01:27:45,260 --> 01:27:47,395
of trans athletes overall.
1984
01:27:47,395 --> 01:27:50,765
You have kids and trans adults
1985
01:27:50,765 --> 01:27:53,101
from all over the world
who are able to tune in
1986
01:27:53,101 --> 01:27:54,836
and see Alana come out
1987
01:27:54,836 --> 01:27:56,571
with a trans flag
around her shoulders.
1988
01:27:56,571 --> 01:27:57,872
I mean, when I watched that,
1989
01:27:57,872 --> 01:28:00,642
I was in tears, because
never in my lifetime
1990
01:28:00,642 --> 01:28:02,076
did I think I would see that
1991
01:28:02,076 --> 01:28:04,178
and did I think I would
see it being celebrated.
1992
01:28:04,178 --> 01:28:05,647
- Will she fight again?
1993
01:28:05,647 --> 01:28:07,548
Look, the truth of the
matter is it's very hard
1994
01:28:07,548 --> 01:28:10,385
to find an opponent
for her, it just is.
1995
01:28:10,385 --> 01:28:11,653
The truth is, you know,
1996
01:28:11,653 --> 01:28:13,788
she's in her late 30s.
1997
01:28:13,788 --> 01:28:17,725
The truth is people are
attracted to see her fight
1998
01:28:17,725 --> 01:28:19,227
maybe for the wrong reasons.
1999
01:28:19,227 --> 01:28:23,064
Whatever it is that we
hear or read about Alana,
2000
01:28:23,064 --> 01:28:25,700
that's not gonna
change anyone's mind.
2001
01:28:25,700 --> 01:28:30,605
Her commitment to making
sure everyone is protected,
2002
01:28:31,739 --> 01:28:33,574
making sure everyone
has the right
2003
01:28:33,574 --> 01:28:36,878
to express their point
of view, even her haters,
2004
01:28:36,878 --> 01:28:38,379
these are the
strengths of Alana,
2005
01:28:38,379 --> 01:28:40,248
and that's what
will convince people
2006
01:28:40,248 --> 01:28:45,353
that transgender people are
people, they're not monsters.
2007
01:28:47,188 --> 01:28:50,792
I don't think it's Alana's
fighting that will change minds.
2008
01:28:50,792 --> 01:28:52,560
I think it's Alana's thinking
2009
01:28:52,560 --> 01:28:54,762
and talking that will
change people's minds.
2010
01:28:57,732 --> 01:29:01,502
(gentle instrumental music)
2011
01:29:01,669 --> 01:29:03,538
(cars honking)
(gentle instrumental music)
2012
01:29:03,538 --> 01:29:04,505
- It's ironic that
one of the few places
2013
01:29:04,505 --> 01:29:07,041
I felt in peace was in the cage.
2014
01:29:07,041 --> 01:29:09,043
It's out here that I
feel like I'm a war,
2015
01:29:09,043 --> 01:29:10,912
outgunned and
behind enemy lines.
2016
01:29:12,246 --> 01:29:14,882
The fight last year hasn't
launched an MMA career.
2017
01:29:14,882 --> 01:29:17,919
A year later and I'm still
waiting for another fight.
2018
01:29:17,919 --> 01:29:20,354
Hell, I'm still trying to find
a place to train in Portland
2019
01:29:20,354 --> 01:29:22,223
where I'm actually welcome.
2020
01:29:22,223 --> 01:29:23,891
I don't really know
what it looks like
2021
01:29:23,891 --> 01:29:25,927
to win the public opinion more,
but the fight has elevated
2022
01:29:25,927 --> 01:29:27,795
my profile in the
trans community.
2023
01:29:28,996 --> 01:29:30,531
Sometimes people tell
me I'm a role model,
2024
01:29:30,531 --> 01:29:32,867
but I don't know
if I believe it.
2025
01:29:32,867 --> 01:29:35,937
I certainly have more
followers now, more fans,
2026
01:29:35,937 --> 01:29:39,073
but a lot more people
screaming for my blood too.
2027
01:29:39,073 --> 01:29:43,077
Sometimes I stand alongside
giants, people like Chelsea.
2028
01:29:43,077 --> 01:29:45,346
She's another army veteran who
spent seven years in prison
2029
01:29:45,346 --> 01:29:48,750
for taking a stand, even
starting her transition there.
2030
01:29:48,750 --> 01:29:49,817
- How's it going?
- Good, how are you?
2031
01:29:49,817 --> 01:29:51,152
You too.
- Good to meet you.
2032
01:29:51,152 --> 01:29:53,387
Are there folks that
you know around here?
2033
01:29:53,387 --> 01:29:55,356
- I'm not sure that I do.
2034
01:29:55,356 --> 01:29:56,124
- Do I know you?
2035
01:29:57,125 --> 01:29:58,126
- Well, people
that know me, yes.
2036
01:29:58,126 --> 01:30:00,728
Vice versa, not so much.
- Yeah.
2037
01:30:01,596 --> 01:30:02,864
- But yeah.
- How are things
2038
01:30:02,864 --> 01:30:05,533
going in general, like in life?
2039
01:30:05,533 --> 01:30:06,934
- [Alana] I got.
2040
01:30:08,102 --> 01:30:09,771
- I had to bring the shirt.
- Yeah, I mean,
2041
01:30:09,771 --> 01:30:11,572
I almost wore that shirt today,
2042
01:30:11,572 --> 01:30:13,207
and I'm glad I didn't
2043
01:30:13,207 --> 01:30:14,642
because then one of us
would've had to change.
2044
01:30:14,642 --> 01:30:17,278
- No, would've
just both worn it.
2045
01:30:17,278 --> 01:30:18,713
Girl, one thing,
2046
01:30:18,713 --> 01:30:20,882
in case you didn't know,
I'm just telling you,
2047
01:30:20,882 --> 01:30:25,253
what you did in that ring
helped me go out to Omaha
2048
01:30:25,253 --> 01:30:28,790
and do that, 'cause that
scared the piss outta me.
2049
01:30:29,924 --> 01:30:32,093
- Scary shit.
- It is, I mean.
2050
01:30:32,093 --> 01:30:34,328
- Nobody can hurt you
like family, right?
2051
01:30:34,328 --> 01:30:35,763
- Tell me about it.
2052
01:30:35,763 --> 01:30:38,866
A personal anecdote, when I
went home this past summer,
2053
01:30:38,866 --> 01:30:40,935
family hadn't seen
me in four years.
2054
01:30:40,935 --> 01:30:43,104
They hadn't seen me
since the medical nuts
2055
01:30:43,104 --> 01:30:44,772
and bolts of my transition.
2056
01:30:44,772 --> 01:30:46,974
They hadn't seen me
since I started that.
2057
01:30:46,974 --> 01:30:49,444
So in a sense it was coming out.
2058
01:30:49,444 --> 01:30:52,280
And you wanna talk about fear?
2059
01:30:52,280 --> 01:30:53,781
That was fear.
2060
01:30:53,781 --> 01:30:56,284
I hadn't felt that level
of fear and anxiety,
2061
01:30:56,284 --> 01:30:58,252
probably since I
was a little kid.
2062
01:30:59,453 --> 01:31:02,056
One of the things that
got me through that
2063
01:31:03,291 --> 01:31:06,227
was just that image of Alana
bringing that flag out,
2064
01:31:06,227 --> 01:31:10,331
walking down that gangway
towards that cage.
2065
01:31:10,331 --> 01:31:12,900
That bucked me up.
2066
01:31:12,900 --> 01:31:15,536
What she's done in
terms of using her voice
2067
01:31:15,536 --> 01:31:16,838
and her activism,
2068
01:31:16,838 --> 01:31:19,440
and continuing to speak
out about trans rights
2069
01:31:19,440 --> 01:31:21,309
and continuing to
speak out about things
2070
01:31:21,309 --> 01:31:24,645
that have nothing
to do with sports.
2071
01:31:24,645 --> 01:31:28,649
Be open about mental
health, be open about PTSD,
2072
01:31:28,649 --> 01:31:32,954
be open about the experiences
that she went through
2073
01:31:32,954 --> 01:31:34,922
in the military, and
be critical of them.
2074
01:31:36,557 --> 01:31:40,027
That is something people need
to hear, because in a sense,
2075
01:31:42,263 --> 01:31:44,599
she's an example of how
our society chews people up
2076
01:31:44,599 --> 01:31:45,933
and spits 'em out.
2077
01:31:45,933 --> 01:31:47,401
She's a transgender veteran,
2078
01:31:47,401 --> 01:31:49,804
she fought for your
right to hate her.
2079
01:31:54,842 --> 01:31:58,179
And think about the lunacy of
that sentence for a second.
2080
01:31:58,179 --> 01:32:01,515
- Well, I decided to walk
out with the trans flag
2081
01:32:01,515 --> 01:32:04,385
instead of the American
flag, because frankly,
2082
01:32:04,385 --> 01:32:08,422
the American flag,
for a lot of people,
2083
01:32:08,422 --> 01:32:10,524
it doesn't stand for
anything good, you know?
2084
01:32:10,524 --> 01:32:11,926
You know, I've said it before,
2085
01:32:11,926 --> 01:32:13,861
but it's safer in that ring
2086
01:32:13,861 --> 01:32:15,963
than it is out here in
the fucking streets.
2087
01:32:18,299 --> 01:32:20,668
I didn't have a gun pointed
in my face in the cage,
2088
01:32:20,668 --> 01:32:22,103
and I've had that happen here.
2089
01:32:23,638 --> 01:32:26,107
- She's gonna go in and fight
the good fight in every fight.
2090
01:32:29,043 --> 01:32:30,378
And I think, you know,
2091
01:32:30,378 --> 01:32:33,147
ultimately that's a
tough way to live.
2092
01:32:33,147 --> 01:32:35,483
And I think what Alana
needs to do is figure out
2093
01:32:35,483 --> 01:32:38,619
what's important for her,
and focus her prodigious
2094
01:32:38,619 --> 01:32:43,491
and tremendous energies on the
fight for Alana to be happy.
2095
01:32:45,059 --> 01:32:47,395
- Whatever happens with
Alana in her fight career,
2096
01:32:47,395 --> 01:32:50,731
she will continue fighting,
we will continue fighting,
2097
01:32:52,233 --> 01:32:55,903
and eventually, just as the
tides of history will turn,
2098
01:32:55,903 --> 01:32:59,006
we will look back on this
conversation 20 years later
2099
01:32:59,006 --> 01:33:02,076
and say, "Wow, I can't believe
2100
01:33:02,076 --> 01:33:06,514
that we are trying to
deny other human beings
2101
01:33:06,514 --> 01:33:09,450
access to sports."
2102
01:33:09,450 --> 01:33:10,918
- It's important to
see representation,
2103
01:33:10,918 --> 01:33:13,521
to see people like
you on camera,
2104
01:33:13,521 --> 01:33:16,090
out in the world doing the
kinds of things you want to do,
2105
01:33:16,090 --> 01:33:17,959
because they're symbols
in that imagery, like,
2106
01:33:17,959 --> 01:33:19,760
that's how we build
our hopes and dreams.
2107
01:33:19,760 --> 01:33:20,995
And I think we all
should do that.
2108
01:33:20,995 --> 01:33:22,430
We all should get that chance.
2109
01:33:23,397 --> 01:33:26,167
(waves crashing)
2110
01:33:29,737 --> 01:33:31,172
- Not really any regrets.
2111
01:33:33,274 --> 01:33:34,342
Yeah, I mean,
2112
01:33:34,342 --> 01:33:35,609
everything that I
would want to change
2113
01:33:35,609 --> 01:33:37,244
is outside of my control.
2114
01:33:37,244 --> 01:33:40,381
So there's not really any
point in me fixating on.
2115
01:33:40,381 --> 01:33:43,751
About the best I can do
is just kind of be ready
2116
01:33:43,751 --> 01:33:46,220
when the call comes, if
there is another fight.
2117
01:33:46,220 --> 01:33:48,522
I want a place of my
own, I want happiness.
2118
01:33:48,522 --> 01:33:52,827
But when I was a kid, I
think that meant isolation.
2119
01:33:52,827 --> 01:33:55,896
And now it doesn't
mean that so much.
2120
01:33:55,896 --> 01:33:58,566
You know, when I transitioned,
2121
01:33:58,566 --> 01:34:01,736
that was kind of my decision
to actually join humanity,
2122
01:34:01,736 --> 01:34:03,070
to be part of things.
2123
01:34:03,871 --> 01:34:06,007
So yeah, once again,
2124
01:34:06,007 --> 01:34:08,242
like with anything else,
it's a balancing act.
2125
01:34:08,242 --> 01:34:10,077
You know, I want my
little piece of the pie,
2126
01:34:10,077 --> 01:34:12,179
but I want it to
be part of the pie,
2127
01:34:12,179 --> 01:34:15,349
I don't want to be hoisted
off in a corner somewhere.
2128
01:34:18,052 --> 01:34:21,622
(gentle instrumental music)
2129
01:34:21,622 --> 01:34:26,193
♪ If it were yesterday
2130
01:34:26,193 --> 01:34:30,865
♪ I might have sailed away
2131
01:34:30,865 --> 01:34:35,936
♪ But the devil had
my soul to take ♪
2132
01:34:37,805 --> 01:34:42,643
♪ All the damage done
2133
01:34:42,643 --> 01:34:46,614
♪ With that loaded gun
2134
01:34:46,614 --> 01:34:51,519
♪ To the streets you run
away alone in the night ♪
2135
01:34:52,353 --> 01:34:56,157
(gentle instrumental music)
2136
01:34:56,157 --> 01:35:01,128
♪ No time can take
the words I say ♪
2137
01:35:02,163 --> 01:35:06,267
♪ Oh, if it were
yesterday today ♪
2138
01:35:08,102 --> 01:35:11,972
(gentle instrumental music)
2139
01:35:13,874 --> 01:35:17,211
- "A child grows among
palmettos, unsure of their fit,
2140
01:35:17,211 --> 01:35:18,412
unsure of their place,
2141
01:35:18,412 --> 01:35:20,715
tucked in the Bible
belt, Gamecocks,
2142
01:35:20,715 --> 01:35:24,151
tiger show, no fear
while growing up queer.
2143
01:35:25,086 --> 01:35:26,921
Molten fire hardened
2144
01:35:26,921 --> 01:35:30,458
against the Taliban
queer palmetto child
off to Afghanistan.
2145
01:35:30,458 --> 01:35:33,027
Not just a soldier,
but now an operator.
2146
01:35:33,027 --> 01:35:35,029
But six years and change later
2147
01:35:35,029 --> 01:35:37,765
and you find out
who you really are.
2148
01:35:37,765 --> 01:35:40,968
As your psalm and cream,
flowing like a dream,
2149
01:35:40,968 --> 01:35:43,637
Athena, Alana will not hide.
2150
01:35:43,637 --> 01:35:47,241
You saw the t-shirt,
end trans genocide.
2151
01:35:47,241 --> 01:35:49,410
Buckle up, let's ride.
2152
01:35:49,410 --> 01:35:51,412
(gentle instrumental music)
2153
01:35:51,412 --> 01:35:54,281
Oh, bonjour, mademoiselle,
2154
01:35:54,281 --> 01:35:55,750
je m'appelle Celine,
2155
01:35:55,750 --> 01:35:58,519
I have come from France
to steal your dream.
2156
01:35:58,519 --> 01:36:00,654
The French woman was
tactical, practical,
2157
01:36:00,654 --> 01:36:03,791
the reach was locked on,
the tone was too good.
2158
01:36:03,791 --> 01:36:06,560
The chin was willing, but
the legs were buckling.
2159
01:36:06,560 --> 01:36:09,163
The girl is getting rocked,
the girl is getting knocked.
2160
01:36:09,163 --> 01:36:10,998
How did she survive?
2161
01:36:10,998 --> 01:36:12,633
How did she survive?
2162
01:36:12,633 --> 01:36:16,637
How did she survive
being asked, but why?
2163
01:36:16,637 --> 01:36:19,273
The second rounds, her
swarm fought the barrage,
2164
01:36:19,273 --> 01:36:20,841
she wants to take down.
2165
01:36:20,841 --> 01:36:23,377
If we can get crown bound,
I'll break the fight down.
2166
01:36:23,377 --> 01:36:25,779
Slip the punches,
got her foothold,
2167
01:36:25,779 --> 01:36:30,017
landed on the canvas,
BJJ, time to roll.
2168
01:36:30,017 --> 01:36:31,552
Alana has landed.
2169
01:36:31,552 --> 01:36:34,088
And then you heard a
million trans hearts hope.
2170
01:36:34,922 --> 01:36:37,625
Rear naked choke, tap out.
2171
01:36:37,625 --> 01:36:39,059
That's the show, folks.
2172
01:36:40,261 --> 01:36:43,964
Raise that arm high,
raise that head high,
2173
01:36:43,964 --> 01:36:47,234
show that sly
smile with a legend
2174
01:36:47,234 --> 01:36:50,137
and all us trans
people on your side.
2175
01:36:50,137 --> 01:36:55,075
Queer child from the palmettos,
you no longer have to hide."
2176
01:36:55,075 --> 01:36:58,646
(gentle instrumental music)
2177
01:36:59,947 --> 01:37:03,117
(suspenseful music)
2178
01:37:07,922 --> 01:37:11,091
(suspenseful music)
2179
01:37:14,328 --> 01:37:17,531
(suspenseful music)
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