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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:14,800 In June 1942, 2 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:21,800 Hitler travelled to Finland to have talks with the Finnish leader Mannerheim in 3 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:22,800 a railway carriage. 4 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:28,460 The talks were being recorded by the Finns for posterity. 5 00:00:32,860 --> 00:00:36,380 The formal part of the discussion comes to an end, 6 00:00:36,480 --> 00:00:42,320 but the sound engineers let the recording device carry on recording. 7 00:00:43,380 --> 00:00:48,520 We hear for the only time Hitler speaking privately. 8 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:18,840 What is fascinating is the tone and tenor of Hitler's voice. 9 00:01:19,340 --> 00:01:23,920 This is not prepared, this is almost stream -of -consciousness stuff. 10 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:31,220 He reveals how his meeting with the Soviet foreign minister made up his mind to 11 00:01:31,220 --> 00:01:31,660 invade. 12 00:01:32,940 --> 00:01:36,800 We hear the voices and the voices of the German people. 13 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:43,900 They are the ones who have the power to answer the questions. 14 00:01:45,860 --> 00:01:49,740 The question is, what is the main truth, the language of the German people? 15 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:53,360 The main truth is, what is the main truth, the language of the German people? 16 00:01:57,060 --> 00:02:01,960 and then an SS man notices that the recording is still going, 17 00:02:02,220 --> 00:02:03,440 and he goes like that. 18 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:12,280 This is the story of the Eastern Front of the Second World War, 19 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:15,420 which many see as its defining conflict. 20 00:02:16,180 --> 00:02:20,860 It was a campaign that saw some of the most brutal and inhumane warfare in all 21 00:02:20,860 --> 00:02:21,460 of history. 22 00:02:22,900 --> 00:02:25,800 Our interest is the psychology of that war. 23 00:02:27,920 --> 00:02:29,260 What is the enemy up to? 24 00:02:29,260 --> 00:02:31,620 Can you deceive him? 25 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:36,980 The minds of dictators and the morality of those around them. 26 00:02:37,460 --> 00:02:42,700 Hitler always needed people around him, saying, you are a genius, 27 00:02:42,700 --> 00:02:45,040 you are a leader, you are the Fuhrer. 28 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:48,380 To tell this story, 29 00:02:48,940 --> 00:02:53,480 we've asked some of the world's most eminent historians and experts with 30 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:58,660 different kinds of insight to each take us inside the mind of one of the key 31 00:02:58,660 --> 00:02:59,280 protagonists. 32 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:04,400 architect of Germany's reality, in some ways the only truth -teller. 33 00:03:11,300 --> 00:03:14,460 Nazi rule relies on quiet complicity. 34 00:03:19,820 --> 00:03:23,740 Ultimately, it's a study of why dictatorships are flawed, 35 00:03:24,020 --> 00:03:29,080 and how those who rule through fear and terror can never trust even the people 36 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:30,120 closest to them. 37 00:03:32,660 --> 00:03:37,260 He's in charge again, so don't cry over spilled milk. 38 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:41,300 It's behind me, yes we fail, now let's see what we can do. 39 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:14,980 Thanks for watching! 40 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:37,600 It's January, 1942. 41 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:41,600 Hitler has launched Operation Barbarossa. 42 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:52,480 Invading the Soviet Union, in the north, south and centre. 43 00:04:53,740 --> 00:04:55,720 But he's just lost the Battle of Moscow. 44 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:59,980 And all three of the armies are now bogged down in the Russia. 45 00:05:02,180 --> 00:05:06,780 The German army desperately needs fuel and resources. 46 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:12,140 Furious with this failure, 47 00:05:12,740 --> 00:05:19,040 Hitler has sacked or sidelined his top generals and appointed himself head of 48 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:19,900 the German army. 49 00:05:22,540 --> 00:05:27,400 Hitler feels that he has the will power and the genius, frankly, 50 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:31,360 to turn the tide and defeat the Soviets. 51 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:35,820 Hitler once, war without end, 52 00:05:36,420 --> 00:05:38,520 continual warfare was the only way in which a race, 53 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:41,160 as he thought of the Germans, could survive. 54 00:05:41,700 --> 00:05:45,580 Without war there would be weak, so there's no prospect of the war ending. 55 00:05:45,940 --> 00:05:50,200 He believes it's all or nothing and 1942 is the year when it's going to be all. 56 00:05:53,860 --> 00:05:56,340 Hitler decides on a bold new plan. 57 00:05:57,400 --> 00:05:57,620 For more information on the German army, head to our website. 58 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:00,200 to focus all his attack in the south. 59 00:06:01,380 --> 00:06:01,800 The aim? 60 00:06:02,380 --> 00:06:04,420 To take the Soviets' oil fields, 61 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:09,300 stealing the fuel from Stalin's army and supplying his own. 62 00:06:12,100 --> 00:06:17,240 But before he can do that, the German forces need to be re -armed. 63 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:27,280 As formal head of the war economy, this would usually fall to Hermann Göring. 64 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:32,260 But he's fallen out of favour. 65 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:37,980 Thank you. 66 00:06:38,940 --> 00:06:42,480 The general view of Goering is that he was a bit of a maverick, 67 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:44,580 that he liked dressing up, that he took drugs, 68 00:06:44,860 --> 00:06:47,640 that he indulged himself a great deal and so on. 69 00:06:51,060 --> 00:06:51,980 I think for Hitler, 70 00:06:51,980 --> 00:06:59,040 one of the main considerations in early 42 is that Goering's been given a lot 71 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:00,160 of power and responsibility. 72 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:01,740 I mean, it's half a dozen offices. 73 00:07:02,100 --> 00:07:04,640 I mean, there are so many things that Goering does, 74 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:06,740 so many pies he had his finger in. 75 00:07:06,740 --> 00:07:10,600 You know, Hitler has come to understand, I think, that, you know, 76 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:11,700 there's a limit to Goering. 77 00:07:13,060 --> 00:07:14,720 And the habit in the Third Reich, of course, 78 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:16,500 is for Hitler to give power and to take it away. 79 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:18,500 It's to raise people up and drop them away. 80 00:07:20,580 --> 00:07:25,220 And there's a new man rising in Hitler's inner circle who has been designing 81 00:07:25,220 --> 00:07:26,940 the monuments of the Third Reich. 82 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:33,820 Hitler's favourite architect, 36 -year -old Albert Speer. 83 00:07:35,140 --> 00:07:41,600 Hitler was notorious for appointing apparently unqualified people to do 84 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:43,100 important jobs. 85 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:48,380 You have Ribbentrop's foreign minister, who is actually a wine merchant. 86 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:52,880 You have Goering, who is a pilot running the economy, 87 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:56,660 and Speer fits the bill perfectly. 88 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:11,220 The vision of Hitler and Speer is to build monumental buildings like an ancient 89 00:08:11,220 --> 00:08:13,660 Rome, like an ancient Athens. 90 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:20,700 Berlin will be the world's biggest and most famous capital. 91 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:26,660 For him, no building is high enough and no hall is long enough. 92 00:08:26,660 --> 00:08:29,260 And this is exactly what Hitler wanted. 93 00:08:35,820 --> 00:08:38,059 Now, Speer has an opportunity. 94 00:08:38,919 --> 00:08:43,720 If he can solve Hitler's problem and successfully resupply the German army, 95 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:46,200 he will become even more powerful. 96 00:08:48,140 --> 00:08:50,940 But there is one person in his way. 97 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:53,480 Hermann Göring. 98 00:09:01,660 --> 00:09:06,280 He goes for a meeting to try and gain access to Göring's ministries. 99 00:09:08,060 --> 00:09:10,740 Well, Göring, I think, is horrified by the point of the Speer, 100 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:12,840 and it doesn't understand it. 101 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:16,200 You know, he's had years of experience running areas of the economy. 102 00:09:16,380 --> 00:09:19,380 Here's Albert Speer, but he knows nothing about almonds, 103 00:09:19,620 --> 00:09:20,780 there's nothing about the war economy. 104 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:31,260 Speer understands that Göring is motivated by the prestige of power, 105 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:34,340 but doesn't actually want to do the work. 106 00:09:35,820 --> 00:09:41,100 So he offers to do Göring's job for him, whilst Göring remains the figurehead. 107 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:52,280 And so Germany has a new armaments minister, architect Albert Speer. 108 00:09:52,860 --> 00:09:55,340 He talks Hitler into winning. 109 00:09:57,620 --> 00:09:58,900 We can win the war. 110 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:01,880 I more than double the war production. 111 00:10:04,740 --> 00:10:07,100 Hitler loves Speer's confidence, 112 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:11,760 so begins preparations for his huge attack in the south. 113 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:17,980 Thank you. 114 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:23,240 At the Kremlin, the map looks very different for Stalin. 115 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:27,420 He's won the Battle of Moscow, 116 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:32,440 but millions of German troops are still all over the country, 117 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:37,480 from Leningrad in the north to Rostov in the south. 118 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:55,180 Whoa, my goodness. 119 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:56,480 Oh, my goodness. 120 00:11:00,740 --> 00:11:13,180 Glorious victory at Moscow, and in prime position Zhukov, saved Leningrad, 121 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:22,300 saved Moscow, the two leading cities of the Soviet Union, perhaps for Stalin, 122 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:29,940 a slightly bigger worry that this army officer is getting rather big for his 123 00:11:29,940 --> 00:11:33,560 boots, and I must watch him. 124 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:40,520 Stalin views Zhukov as his most capable general, but a potential threat. 125 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:47,540 Because Zhukov could be a dictator. 126 00:11:47,940 --> 00:11:50,060 Stalin doesn't make these kind of mistakes. 127 00:11:50,500 --> 00:11:52,180 He could smell Zhukov's strength. 128 00:11:52,940 --> 00:11:53,480 Zhukov is ruthless. 129 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:55,160 Zhukov is highly popular. 130 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,500 And Stalin knows that he needs Zhukov, 131 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:02,100 but he has to distance Zhukov from himself. 132 00:12:04,780 --> 00:12:06,760 Determined to prove that he's the one in charge, 133 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:11,560 Stalin unveils his own plan to drive the Germans out of the Soviet Union, 134 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:15,580 launching a huge offensive from Leningrad to the Black Sea. 135 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:19,560 But Zhukov can see Stalin's plan is doomed. 136 00:12:20,340 --> 00:12:22,900 He warns Stalin that after the Battle of Moscow, 137 00:12:22,900 --> 00:12:26,500 the Red Army are in no shape to attack so soon. 138 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:31,380 Stalin has shown time and time again, if you get in my way, 139 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:35,240 I will get in yours, terminally. 140 00:12:38,140 --> 00:12:42,000 But Zhukov had the courage, when necessary, 141 00:12:42,300 --> 00:12:46,380 I'm sure he chose his movements carefully, but when necessary, 142 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:50,660 to say to Stalin, comrades Stalin, yes, but... 143 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:59,820 While Zhukov is warning, correctly warning, Stalin doesn't want to hear that. 144 00:13:00,580 --> 00:13:01,600 Stalin is confident now. 145 00:13:01,940 --> 00:13:02,840 He isn't driving seat. 146 00:13:03,180 --> 00:13:04,600 He is a big boss. 147 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:09,620 It's not just about winning the war, it's about making sure he was in charge. 148 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:17,120 So Zhukov's reward for the success of the Battle of Moscow is that he is 149 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:19,900 sidelined and sent to the front. 150 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:26,500 So now both Hitler and Stalin have taken charge of their own armies. 151 00:13:28,180 --> 00:13:30,420 There's no one left to hold them back. 152 00:13:32,020 --> 00:13:37,060 Something that's always happened to dictators, by cleaning their path to power, 153 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:42,980 they have no choice but to eliminate the most capable and most skilful 154 00:13:42,980 --> 00:13:43,700 executives. 155 00:13:45,060 --> 00:13:48,320 The moment Stalin or Hitler tried to take over the command, 156 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:49,920 it led to a disaster. 157 00:13:51,980 --> 00:13:54,740 Hitler has already made a similar mistake. 158 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:58,280 Replacing or firing his top generals. 159 00:14:06,940 --> 00:14:09,460 And now the man in charge of the 6th army, 160 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:12,840 who will play a key role in the attack on the south, 161 00:14:13,420 --> 00:14:18,780 is a man who has never commanded troops in the field before. 162 00:14:18,780 --> 00:14:23,860 The recently appointed General Paulus. 163 00:14:40,630 --> 00:14:46,340 Paulus' leadership qualities were frankly rather weak, to put it mildly. 164 00:14:46,340 --> 00:14:50,180 He probably felt a slight feeling of imposter syndrome. 165 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:57,040 At the same time, feeling thrilled and happy at this remarkable piece of luck. 166 00:15:02,020 --> 00:15:07,340 Paulus is immediately thrust into difficulty when his troops are attacked by 167 00:15:07,340 --> 00:15:10,200 the Red Army at the city of Kharkov. 168 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:23,620 Paulus was under tremendous strain. 169 00:15:24,380 --> 00:15:28,940 He had this nervous tick reveal quite how much pressure he was under. 170 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:33,660 Paulus was nicknamed the Delayer. 171 00:15:34,860 --> 00:15:38,080 This was partly because he did not like to take a decision. 172 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:42,700 He was always rather frightened of taking the wrong decision. 173 00:15:48,540 --> 00:15:51,260 Paulus asked permission to hold off on attacking. 174 00:15:53,860 --> 00:15:56,220 But Hitler is now in control of the battlefield. 175 00:15:59,260 --> 00:16:02,520 He instructs Paulus to smash through Red Army lines. 176 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:12,680 Following Hitler's orders, Paulus and his army annihilate Soviet troops. 177 00:16:14,300 --> 00:16:17,620 Stalin loses nearly 300 ,000 soldiers. 178 00:16:21,460 --> 00:16:25,740 Hitler personally thanks Paulus for the victory and awards him the Night's 179 00:16:25,740 --> 00:16:25,920 Cross. 180 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:30,900 Paulus had tremendous admiration from that particular moment, thinking, well, 181 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:35,720 Hitler must have had a better view from up there than I had down on the ground 182 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:37,140 during the course of the battle. 183 00:16:39,620 --> 00:16:45,320 Hitler's put Paulus in his debt and binds Paulus to him personally. 184 00:16:46,980 --> 00:16:50,980 Paulus then follows every commander of Hitler's position. 185 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:55,340 believing totally in his military brilliance. 186 00:16:58,460 --> 00:17:02,660 So Hitler feels ready to launch his massive assault on the south. 187 00:17:11,180 --> 00:17:14,540 Just over a week before the operation begins, 188 00:17:15,140 --> 00:17:18,740 a German plane is shot out of the sky by the Red Army. 189 00:17:21,829 --> 00:17:26,180 When they approach the wreckage, they find in the dead officer's satchel, 190 00:17:27,020 --> 00:17:29,060 the German invasion plans. 191 00:17:32,230 --> 00:17:35,860 The maps and documents are raced to the Kremlin. 192 00:17:43,410 --> 00:17:48,000 The German airplane shut down and the pilot accidentally has a map. 193 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:50,560 In Stalin's eyes. 194 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:52,840 forgery, disinformation. 195 00:17:53,540 --> 00:17:55,000 So you cannot trust it. 196 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:58,160 I don't think Stalin had even a second thought, because it's accidental. 197 00:17:58,740 --> 00:17:59,740 He doesn't move in accidents. 198 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:01,340 So he's probably staged. 199 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:07,160 Having sidelined his top general, Zhukov, 200 00:18:08,500 --> 00:18:10,560 Stalin has nobody to make him see sense. 201 00:18:11,940 --> 00:18:14,100 Stalin thought that Hitler would eventually attack Moscow, 202 00:18:14,660 --> 00:18:18,640 because taking over Moscow, that's the way to make Soviet capital late. 203 00:18:20,460 --> 00:18:24,760 And while Germans were making the build -ups in the south, 204 00:18:25,460 --> 00:18:28,800 Stalin couldn't think of anything else but Moscow, because he was there. 205 00:18:30,540 --> 00:18:33,840 And that's why the real information from the dead pilot, 206 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:36,540 that was all disregarded by Stalin, 207 00:18:36,620 --> 00:18:43,740 because it did not fit his ideas about the top targets in Hitler's mind. 208 00:18:47,820 --> 00:18:53,460 So Stalin fails to defend the south, and the German army storms through. 209 00:18:55,180 --> 00:19:00,100 Soon, a million German soldiers are advancing on the oil fields. 210 00:19:01,660 --> 00:19:04,200 They show no mercy towards Soviet civilians. 211 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:23,220 ambience Paulus is a Christian, 212 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:30,060 but that didn't necessarily mean he was ever prepared to outright rejection on 213 00:19:30,060 --> 00:19:34,860 Nazi killing orders of Jews, Slavs, commissars and so forth. 214 00:19:37,780 --> 00:19:40,280 There's a form of moral anaesthetic. 215 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:47,400 Paulus probably feels that he's certainly not active in pushing Hitler's 216 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:48,880 genocidal endeavors. 217 00:19:50,260 --> 00:19:50,860 He was uneasy. 218 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:55,580 But he certainly wasn't going to speak out in any way against it. 219 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:07,320 At this point, it is interesting to know what Hitler is thinking. 220 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:11,740 Because on one hand, the war seems to be going well, 221 00:20:12,360 --> 00:20:15,000 but it's all taking so much longer than he thought. 222 00:20:16,120 --> 00:20:21,420 How does he justify to himself the failures of the campaign so far? 223 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:29,700 In June 1942, he travels to Finland to meet the Finnish leader, Mannerheim. 224 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:35,000 And one can listen in to their conversation. 225 00:21:00,740 --> 00:21:06,540 He's talking quite informally and quite openly about where things have gone 226 00:21:06,540 --> 00:21:14,640 wrong, excusing the failure of the German armies who defeat the Red Army, 227 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:16,800 the Soviet army, in short order. 228 00:21:38,580 --> 00:21:42,640 He's making excuses for his failures. 229 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:09,300 While Hitler complains that nobody told him how strong the Russian army was, 230 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:14,320 he doesn't realize that there are other things that people still don't dare 231 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:15,060 tell him. 232 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:22,980 In Berlin, the architect Spär is struggling. 233 00:22:26,140 --> 00:22:35,860 He does everything in his power to enforce war production and to get more and 234 00:22:35,860 --> 00:22:37,800 more people to work. 235 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:43,200 He doesn't care where these labourers come from. 236 00:22:50,780 --> 00:22:54,340 He conscripts slave labour into the war effort. 237 00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:01,280 Tens of thousands die as he tries to supply the Nazi war machine, 238 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:03,340 but it's still not enough. 239 00:23:05,740 --> 00:23:07,660 So he decides to cook the books, 240 00:23:08,860 --> 00:23:13,320 faking the numbers to try and make it appear to Hitler like he is delivering. 241 00:23:18,820 --> 00:23:22,180 Hitler is so convinced that he will ultimately win the war. 242 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:25,260 He takes another huge gamble. 243 00:23:29,120 --> 00:23:32,120 He's going to capture not only the Soviet oil fields, 244 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:38,740 but 300 miles of the Black Sea coast, as well as the city of Stalingrad. 245 00:23:41,380 --> 00:23:44,000 In military terms, this is madness. 246 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:49,340 I think if Hitler... 247 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:51,620 had understood the magnitude of any of the gambles he made, 248 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:53,060 he probably wouldn't have made them. 249 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:58,380 He was precisely a gambler, somebody who went for broke all the time, 250 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:03,540 because he felt that the cards would fall in his favor. 251 00:24:06,120 --> 00:24:12,560 His faith in the racial superiority of the Germans was enough to quell any 252 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:13,680 doubts he might have had. 253 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,420 Hitler is desperately impatient. 254 00:24:22,620 --> 00:24:26,860 Paulus, I think, had a mixed idea or feeling about what was lying ahead. 255 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:36,300 He certainly was not going to openly reject the orders coming from Hitler's 256 00:24:36,300 --> 00:24:37,040 headquarters. 257 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:44,680 By dividing the army group, Hitler is weakening each of the two parts. 258 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:49,060 So while Paulus is sent to Stalingrad, 259 00:24:50,100 --> 00:24:53,660 the other half of the army sets off to capture the oil fields. 260 00:25:02,340 --> 00:25:07,520 But what looks straightforward on Hitler's map is different in reality. 261 00:25:13,260 --> 00:25:18,000 They soon find themselves traversing the colossal Caucasus Mountains. 262 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:28,320 Within weeks, they are low on fuel and supplies, and the army grinds to a halt. 263 00:25:38,580 --> 00:25:43,400 A general of the Army High Command returns from the Caucasus with the worst 264 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:48,840 possible news, the operation to capture Stalin's oil fields. 265 00:25:53,140 --> 00:25:58,160 But Hitler demands that the campaign continue at all costs. 266 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:02,780 It's very unusual for a general to stand up to Hitler, 267 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:07,120 but so serious is the situation that he does. 268 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:11,880 Unusually, he stands his ground and he shouts back at Hitler. 269 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:13,980 You gave the orders. 270 00:26:14,120 --> 00:26:15,620 You can't blame us, the generals. 271 00:26:16,420 --> 00:26:17,560 It's all your fault. 272 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:31,020 And Hitler simply won't accept this. 273 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,040 Hitler thinks, well, Hitler's the leader. 274 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:37,000 He's the dictator. 275 00:26:37,540 --> 00:26:39,100 He's the supreme strategist. 276 00:26:39,620 --> 00:26:41,240 He's the man who defeated France. 277 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:45,000 And now he's beginning to be confronted with the realities of the situation. 278 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,160 And he really can't take it. 279 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:58,540 Things get very heated. 280 00:26:59,300 --> 00:27:04,460 Hitler's not used to being informed by generals that his own strategy is not 281 00:27:04,460 --> 00:27:05,240 going to work. 282 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:12,800 What happens next seems to be a turning point in Hitler's psychology. 283 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:18,980 Thanks for watching! 284 00:27:21,340 --> 00:27:26,360 With no -one left to blame, he has some kind of mental collapse. 285 00:27:31,580 --> 00:27:39,360 He withdraws, pulls back, won't talk to the generals again, eats on his own, 286 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:43,000 and there's a generally rather unpleasant, 287 00:27:44,120 --> 00:27:46,160 tense atmosphere in the headquarters. 288 00:27:48,740 --> 00:27:51,900 Convinced his generals must have misquoted his orders. 289 00:27:53,020 --> 00:27:57,980 He brings in a team of stenographers from Berlin to type out everything he says 290 00:27:57,980 --> 00:27:59,440 in meetings from now on. 291 00:28:03,020 --> 00:28:07,000 None of this shakes Hitler's belief that he will win the war. 292 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,400 Hitler begins to pin his hopes on Stalingrad. 293 00:28:12,220 --> 00:28:17,080 It's the part of the operation that's still going forward and he now decides 294 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:22,060 that that is the big objective, conquering the city named after Stalin. 295 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:28,000 Thank you. 296 00:28:34,260 --> 00:28:38,660 Dictators, they pay overwhelming attention to symbols. 297 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:42,300 It's all about symbols. 298 00:28:43,540 --> 00:28:48,980 Dictator must prove time and again that he is, he is worthy of this power. 299 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:52,720 that he somehow has been given, often grabbed. 300 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:58,320 But to hold this power, he meets victories, sometimes symbolic victories. 301 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:05,060 If the city was named whatever, Volgograd, Yakaterinoslav, 302 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:07,960 whatever the name is, Tsaritsyn as the original name, 303 00:29:08,660 --> 00:29:12,780 I don't think Hitler would be so devoted to go against this, 304 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:13,820 but it was Stalingrad. 305 00:29:14,580 --> 00:29:18,800 And I think the name of the map, on the map, you know, paralyzed Hitler. 306 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:20,380 He wanted to take Stalingrad. 307 00:29:20,980 --> 00:29:24,840 And the German armies, instead of using the momentum, the advantage, 308 00:29:25,260 --> 00:29:29,340 the maneuvers, and looking for oil and bakut and caucuses, 309 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:33,600 he decides to bring his best troops into Stalingrad. 310 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:37,860 Stalin was quite pleased. 311 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:43,380 Deep in his soul, Stalin feels even happy. 312 00:29:43,380 --> 00:29:48,460 And he knows enough about war to recognize that Hitler... 313 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:55,740 is making a mistake, that war in the city is going to wear out German troops. 314 00:29:57,980 --> 00:30:02,320 Also, I think in the back of his mind, he thinks about the great effect. 315 00:30:03,020 --> 00:30:09,580 If Stalingrad survives, if this battle is won, that's him, Joseph Stalin, 316 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:12,640 here in the city of Stalin, actually nothing to do with Stalin, 317 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,380 but now it's a city that bears Stalin's name, 318 00:30:15,380 --> 00:30:18,820 that's where the German army could meet its match. 319 00:30:23,900 --> 00:30:28,800 For both Hitler and Stalin, this becomes a symbol of their conflict. 320 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:33,960 For Hitler, being a kind of symbolic victory over Stalin, 321 00:30:34,380 --> 00:30:38,380 Stalin realises this and throws everything he can into its defence. 322 00:30:39,980 --> 00:30:43,080 Stalin orders that every Russian man, 323 00:30:43,580 --> 00:30:47,180 woman and child must stay and defend the city. 324 00:30:48,180 --> 00:30:52,060 Any Russian soldiers seen retreating will be shot immediately. 325 00:30:56,420 --> 00:31:00,840 So both the Red Army and the German forces descend on Stalingrad. 326 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:28,440 And Stalin knows just the man he needs for this situation. 327 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:38,140 Stalin knows that the professionals must carry the war. 328 00:31:40,140 --> 00:31:44,460 Zhukov is Stalin's man now, not his pet, not his favourite, 329 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:46,500 but this is the man Stalin needs. 330 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:55,080 is that the German army has a weak spot in Axis troops camped outside the city. 331 00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:57,240 Romanian, Hungarian, 332 00:31:57,860 --> 00:32:01,920 and Italian forces are vulnerable to attack in the north and south. 333 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:07,820 Zhukov aims to launch a simultaneous attack on both these flanks. 334 00:32:08,780 --> 00:32:17,920 Zhukov came up with an ambitious plan to encircle Pilots' 6th Army of the 335 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:18,540 Wehrmacht, 336 00:32:19,210 --> 00:32:26,120 it is a great objective of any ambitious general because it gives you, 337 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:29,420 if you get it right, an outstanding victory. 338 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,340 Paulus is aware of exactly the same weakness, 339 00:32:35,060 --> 00:32:37,920 fearing his army is vulnerable to Soviet entrapment. 340 00:32:38,660 --> 00:32:41,300 He goes to ask Hitler for reinforcements. 341 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:52,780 At the same moment in Moscow, Zhukov asks for Stalin's approval to attack. 342 00:32:56,810 --> 00:32:59,320 This is the moment where both dictators, 343 00:32:59,620 --> 00:33:01,780 they change the course almost simultaneously. 344 00:33:03,980 --> 00:33:07,620 While Stalin demonstrates that Zhukov has his full confidence, 345 00:33:08,540 --> 00:33:10,300 Hitler goes in the opposite direction. 346 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:18,860 Hitler refuses to listen to Paulus's concerns. 347 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:23,540 He's only interested in when Stalingrad will fall. 348 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:31,120 Hitler once again, consumed by impatience, 349 00:33:31,340 --> 00:33:35,740 wants to have something to announce back in Germany of a huge victory in the 350 00:33:35,740 --> 00:33:35,980 east. 351 00:33:35,980 --> 00:33:39,940 And so he's pushing Paulus to say, when is the city going to fall? 352 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:44,140 Paulus had already given an assessment of another two weeks at least. 353 00:33:46,260 --> 00:33:49,720 But actually even Paulus didn't believe that figure at the time. 354 00:34:00,820 --> 00:34:08,239 On the 30th of September 1942, Hitler is in Berlin to make a speech. 355 00:34:11,020 --> 00:34:16,000 He declares to the nation that victory at Stalingrad is imminent. 356 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:30,480 He says that he is going to fall, and that he is going to fall, 357 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,760 and that he is going to fall, and that he is going to fall, 358 00:34:33,940 --> 00:34:34,120 and that he is going to fall. 359 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:42,239 He says that he is going to fall, and that he is going to fall, 360 00:34:42,460 --> 00:34:46,940 and that he is going to fall, and that he is going to fall, 361 00:34:47,300 --> 00:34:48,980 and that he is going to fall. 362 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:51,920 If you don't know what you're going to do, you're going to die. 363 00:34:55,639 --> 00:34:56,380 You're going to die. 364 00:34:57,760 --> 00:34:58,940 You're going to die. 365 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:04,540 Hitler's self -belief was absolute. 366 00:35:06,260 --> 00:35:09,640 Success is what's going to happen. 367 00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:12,640 You can't even contemplate any kind of failure. 368 00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:18,200 Hitler, in his speech, is really doing two things. 369 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:24,520 He's rallying the public around the belief that Stalingrad is finished, 370 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:28,240 that the German troops are going to occupy a very short order. 371 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:33,800 But he's also saying to the German troops that that's what they've got to do. 372 00:35:33,980 --> 00:35:35,580 They've got to occupy Stalingrad. 373 00:35:35,780 --> 00:35:36,840 They mustn't be deterred. 374 00:35:46,500 --> 00:35:51,700 Hitler has publicly tied his own fate to the conquest of Stalingrad, 375 00:35:51,820 --> 00:35:57,760 but Stalin isn't going anywhere. 376 00:35:58,740 --> 00:36:01,620 The Soviet people take up arms against the Germans, 377 00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:07,380 fighting house by house and street by street to defend the city. 378 00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:26,500 Stalingrad degenerated into the most bitter gutter fighting amongst the ruined 379 00:36:26,500 --> 00:36:27,220 factories. 380 00:36:28,220 --> 00:36:29,980 Very vicious indeed. 381 00:36:34,180 --> 00:36:39,800 With no space for tanks, savage urban combat breaks out in ruined homes, 382 00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:42,000 basements and cellars across Stalingrad. 383 00:36:43,580 --> 00:36:45,480 It's a fight to the death. 384 00:36:55,340 --> 00:37:01,140 With the Germans dug in inside the city, Stalingrad could fall. 385 00:37:02,720 --> 00:37:05,940 Now, Zhukov launches his attack. 386 00:37:07,500 --> 00:37:12,500 He sends over a million of his troops in a surprise pincer movement, 387 00:37:12,740 --> 00:37:19,500 attacking the weak German flanks and trapping a quarter of a million enemy 388 00:37:19,500 --> 00:37:20,200 soldiers. 389 00:37:24,900 --> 00:37:29,700 Before Paulus can react, his army is almost entirely surrounded. 390 00:37:32,420 --> 00:37:41,300 Paulus is in fairly constant correspondence with to decide on what should be 391 00:37:41,300 --> 00:37:41,840 done. 392 00:37:46,380 --> 00:37:49,760 Paulus asked permission from Hitler to break out. 393 00:37:51,820 --> 00:37:54,180 The German armies cannot withdraw, 394 00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:56,120 not least because he said that they've already won, 395 00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:58,480 so there will be a serious loss of face for him. 396 00:37:59,240 --> 00:38:00,540 Darlingrad has to be captured. 397 00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:05,460 What a great leader. 398 00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:11,700 Autocratic leaders seem incapable of accepting that an army sometimes has to 399 00:38:11,700 --> 00:38:16,980 withdraw to a more favorable ground in order better to defend. 400 00:38:17,740 --> 00:38:26,660 For the dictator, every inch is a failure, and by not allowing redeployment, 401 00:38:26,860 --> 00:38:29,400 they make the end worse than ever. 402 00:38:31,180 --> 00:38:36,040 But for one man, this is the opportunity he's been waiting for. 403 00:38:46,860 --> 00:38:52,000 Hermann Göring sees the situation in Stalingrad as a way to redeem himself with 404 00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:56,240 Hitler and gain the upper hand over his rival, Albert Speer. 405 00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,880 He's very aware that Germany's up against him. 406 00:39:00,580 --> 00:39:01,760 He wants Germany to win. 407 00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:07,960 Victory means Göring, still number two, Göring with even more resources, 408 00:39:08,340 --> 00:39:11,180 Göring with this big hunting forest in Russia. 409 00:39:11,940 --> 00:39:13,820 You know, victory means a lot to Göring. 410 00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:22,100 Göring has a plan that he claims will miraculously turn the tide at Stalingrad. 411 00:39:23,100 --> 00:39:24,540 He persuades Hitler, 412 00:39:24,780 --> 00:39:29,020 but he can use the Luftwaffe to supply Paulus' trapped army with enough food 413 00:39:29,020 --> 00:39:31,060 and equipment to beat Stalingrad. 414 00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:37,660 This is an opportunity to demonstrate, once again, that he's in command. 415 00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:43,200 You know, 416 00:39:43,380 --> 00:39:47,800 Hitler desperately needing a solution to a strategic disaster which he's 417 00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:48,460 created. 418 00:39:49,940 --> 00:39:54,000 Göring desperately wanting to get in with Hitler again and show him that, 419 00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:56,260 you know, he can deliver something that Hitler wants. 420 00:39:56,260 --> 00:40:01,640 So the two of them are really colluding together to create what actually turns 421 00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:03,060 out to be a strategic fantasy. 422 00:40:06,140 --> 00:40:07,680 Just like Speer before him, 423 00:40:08,300 --> 00:40:11,080 Göring knows he can't deliver on his far -fetched promise, 424 00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:14,280 but sends his Luftwaffe in anyway, 425 00:40:14,740 --> 00:40:18,840 carrying only a fraction of the supplies needed to sustain Hitler's army. 426 00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:25,220 The Russian winter prevents most planes from landing. 427 00:40:25,220 --> 00:40:28,520 Those that do are attacked by the Soviets. 428 00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:36,860 Göring loses the lives of a thousand men, leaving Paulus and his army stranded. 429 00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:37,940 in Stalingrad. 430 00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:47,460 Among those trapped is Albert Speer's brother, Ernst. 431 00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:52,740 His family members beg Speer to use his influence to get his brother out. 432 00:40:53,700 --> 00:40:56,280 But Speer claims he can't do anything to save him. 433 00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:01,520 Speer doesn't really feel guilt. 434 00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:10,440 But he is willing to sacrifice the lives of his family for this higher cause. 435 00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:19,720 It's Christmas Day, and for weeks Paulus and his men have been trapped, 436 00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:21,960 with virtually no supplies. 437 00:41:24,100 --> 00:41:27,620 They're stuck, in an area known as the Cauldron. 438 00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:32,020 But instead of boiling alive, they are freezing to death. 439 00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:39,400 The suffering of the German troops was appalling. 440 00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:45,780 The temperatures were often down to minus 20, even at one stage to minus 30. 441 00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:49,360 It meant that the casualties from frostbite were simply terrifying. 442 00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:59,340 From that point onwards, they are beginning to starve to death. 443 00:42:01,220 --> 00:42:06,280 And they start eating the horses, they start eating animals, and in the end, 444 00:42:06,620 --> 00:42:08,620 some evidence, they started eating each other. 445 00:42:11,340 --> 00:42:15,540 Caught between the extreme suffering of his men and his duty to his commander 446 00:42:15,540 --> 00:42:20,840 -in -chief, Paulus is now in a state of mental and physical collapse. 447 00:42:21,740 --> 00:42:25,520 Paulus was suffering very badly from recurrent dysentery. 448 00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:28,020 He was extremely thin and haggard. 449 00:42:28,340 --> 00:42:30,720 His twitch was pretty manic, 450 00:42:30,720 --> 00:42:35,860 and one could tell that really he was only occasionally sort of in control of 451 00:42:35,860 --> 00:42:38,340 his own state and his own emotions. 452 00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:43,460 And this is where Schmidt, his chief of staff, starts to take over. 453 00:42:46,260 --> 00:42:49,060 Paulus, he had no options, basically. 454 00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:50,540 That's his problem. 455 00:42:51,840 --> 00:43:00,940 He had no option other than to disobey Hitler and start to withdraw or to 456 00:43:00,940 --> 00:43:01,360 surrender. 457 00:43:02,340 --> 00:43:03,880 What else could he have done? 458 00:43:10,140 --> 00:43:15,240 Stalin is now on the brink of victory in the city that bears his name. 459 00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:21,980 But so far, he's lost the lives of almost half a million soldiers and 40 ,000 460 00:43:21,980 --> 00:43:22,540 civilians. 461 00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:24,920 Stalin didn't care about your lives. 462 00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:26,800 It was all about winning. 463 00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:28,060 It's all about surviving. 464 00:43:29,340 --> 00:43:34,360 When we say brutality, we believe that there's certain values, like human life, 465 00:43:35,240 --> 00:43:36,980 that could stand on the way of... 466 00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,040 of us achieving our goals. 467 00:43:39,780 --> 00:43:41,800 Stalin was a classical dictator. 468 00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:45,680 If you should get from A to B or A to Z, 469 00:43:45,860 --> 00:43:50,120 it doesn't matter how many people will die in the middle. 470 00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:10,400 Hitler now becomes fixated on the idea that whatever happens in Stalingrad, 471 00:44:10,940 --> 00:44:13,240 his troops must not surrender. 472 00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:16,900 Sensing Hitler's wishes, 473 00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:22,660 Göring gives a speech on the radio that even the soldiers in Stalingrad will be 474 00:44:22,660 --> 00:44:23,680 able to hear. 475 00:44:25,700 --> 00:44:31,760 Now what he's telling his audience is that the men in Stalingrad are like the 476 00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:34,340 300 in Thermopylae, the Greeks. 477 00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:39,380 the Spartans who sacrificed themselves to save Sparta. 478 00:44:40,300 --> 00:44:44,620 And it's a bizarre message because it means that all the people who started 479 00:44:44,620 --> 00:44:45,540 going are going to die. 480 00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:26,720 The work of Eimel Heisen has been done for the rest of the year. 481 00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:28,560 The heart of the Spartans is going to die. 482 00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:37,980 Those few who actually heard the speech, 483 00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:42,240 they knew that this was their funeral oration, 484 00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:48,000 implying that they were there to die, to create this great legend. 485 00:45:51,940 --> 00:45:56,740 Paulus is holed up in the basement of a bombed -out department store in 486 00:45:56,740 --> 00:46:00,560 Stalingrad, when he finally gets word from Hitler himself. 487 00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:10,600 He receives a telegram announcing that he's been promoted to field marshal. 488 00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:17,960 Paulus knew instantly what it indicated. 489 00:46:18,540 --> 00:46:20,720 No German field marshal had ever surrendered. 490 00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:27,800 He knew perfectly well that Hitler expected him to commit suicide. 491 00:46:31,020 --> 00:46:34,980 Die an honourable soldier's death, like... 492 00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:38,160 ...the Roman generals falling on their swords when they were defeated. 493 00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:45,540 It shows the fanaticism of the Nazi Party. 494 00:46:46,180 --> 00:46:49,720 It shows Hitler's all -or -nothing mentality. 495 00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:30,800 It shows Hitler's all -or -nothing mentality when they were defeated when they 496 00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:30,800 were defeated. 497 00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:43,380 On the 31st of January 1943, 498 00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:47,860 Paulus surrenders what is left of his army to the Russians. 499 00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:12,220 I think the most obvious lesson from Paulus' experiences and his life as the 500 00:48:12,220 --> 00:48:20,820 pawn of a dictator shows that if you do not have the courage to turn up to a 501 00:48:20,820 --> 00:48:25,860 dictator, you will be left to suffer. 502 00:48:27,820 --> 00:48:31,000 The lack of moral courage, which Paulus showed, 503 00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:34,120 was actually going to do for him in the end and it did. 504 00:48:41,660 --> 00:48:48,020 The Soviet victory at Stalingrad marks a crucial turning point in the war. 505 00:48:51,020 --> 00:48:54,700 Stalin knows that it's a big defeat for John military machine, 506 00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:58,780 but also it's a spiritual victory for him because it's Stalingrad. 507 00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:00,360 His stock goes up. 508 00:49:01,180 --> 00:49:02,780 Not just Soviet Union, Stalin, 509 00:49:03,220 --> 00:49:08,680 he is potentially viewed as a liberator and many of the past crimes could be 510 00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:10,240 simply wiped out from history. 511 00:49:15,300 --> 00:49:16,580 Memories fade. 512 00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:22,560 I was born in 1944, a wartime baby. 513 00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:24,380 My father was away fighting. 514 00:49:25,180 --> 00:49:39,820 We forget just how primeval a situation The weakness of dictatorship is you get 515 00:49:39,820 --> 00:49:48,720 one man who thinks he is infallible, who will not brook debate or dissension, 516 00:49:49,660 --> 00:49:57,220 very dismissive of the value of human life and in the end I'm glad to say they 517 00:49:57,220 --> 00:50:00,220 didn't really work. 46245

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