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Prince Turkey if you were still ambassador here

what would you be

trying to get the British government to do

about Israel Gaza

I mentioned that in my talk to Chatham House

I said that the

the efforts of the government now are welcome

but they're a bit shy

I think

they can do more in stoppage of military support

and other such considerations to the Israelis

but they can also

come forward and recognize the Palestinian state

as you know

there's been a parliamentary resolution on that

many years ago

on recognizing Palestine as state

which has not been implemented by governments in the UK

and do it now I hope so

I think they should do that

do you think

do you think peace is possible

while Netanyahu is in Israel

and Hamas is in Gaza not under

needs to be got rid of

not under the present circumstances

if there were more pressure put on

on them um

they might come forward as you know

miss anything Yahoo

has had a record of of

of coming forward and not coming forward

the wide river agreement in America on Harbourne

if remember

he came through on that

and accepted American pressure at that time

I think if there is more pressure on him

like recognizing a Palestinian state

and stopping weapons going to him etc

he might come around but when his supporters

like the United States and European countries

don't do that why should he do that

Saudi Arabia is no friend of Hamas

and you have condemned Hamas

um but how

how do you deal with Hamas

how do you get Hamas out of the picture

two two propositions

I think if there is going to be

a ceasefire agreement

based on United Nations Security Council resolution

it has to be United Nations Security Council resolution

in succession to the previous

Security Council resolutions

because it's important to keep them in mind

um

there should be a stipulation in that Security Council

resolution

that those who do not accept a two state solution

for Palestine and Israel

are not allowed to be participants in any peace

in the future

and that definitely will exclude Netanyahu

because he's already declared

his opposition to a Palestinian state

and any Hamas leader

who does not recognize the two state solution

as the present leadership at Hamas does not

so that's one way of doing it

um the other way

of course uh

is that the the

I hope the the people in mother's day

if they see that there is hope for

an end to the killing that they will turn on Hamas and

and ask them for a reckoning

about the thousands of people who've been killed

and the destruction of their homes

and their hospitals their schools

etc and throw them out

um because that's basically what Hamas brought

to the people of US

a lot of people wonder

why Saudi Arabia is not taking a more muscular

position over this you know

in 1973 there was an oil embargo against western states

who supported Israel

why does Saudi Arabia not do more like that

well you know

imposing an oil embargo on

on whoever these days is not going to work

um there's a lot of oil in the world

and the producers of oil since 1973

have expanded considerably

The United States now hardly imports any

any oil because it has its own resources

Europe of course

though dependent on imports and so on

yet the producers of oil go beyond Saudi Arabia

and the Arab world and so on

so that as a tool

is not going to work nowadays

but when you mean robust what do you mean by robust

do you mean the

Saudi Arabia should declare war on Israel

or should declare war on the United States and the UK

for supporting Israel that not only would be foolish

but it will expand the conflict rather than limiting it

we want to see an end to the fighting

and that's where we put all our

political and economic resources

to convince countries

to support an end to the fighting

and you know

the delegation from the Arab and Muslim countries

that goes around the world

to convince the governments

to support such a proposition

is LED by Saudi Arabia so

how much more robust do you want us to be

in terms of providing support

to the Palestinian people

we have never hesitated in doing that

there is a public fund

that has been instituted by the government for

so it is to contribute to the people of Gaza

and the supplies of humanitarian

medical and other aid going to Gaza

either through the trucks that go through Saudi Arabia

but also through ships that go to Egyptian ports

to provide support for for Gaza continue

what do you think Saudi Arabia's role would be

in the building of a new Palestinian state

well I think

any support we can give to the Palestinian people

we will not hesitate to do

I cannot specify any any particular um

department or or action that the Kingdom can take

but there will be loss of Saudi money

not just money but technical

know how political support

whatever you want Yanny

but you know

reconstructing Halza should be a world responsibility

and there should be a United Nations fund to do that

and I think we should also impose on the Israelis

to pay for some of the reconstruction in Russia

because of the

they are the ones who destroyed that infrastructure

do you still think normalization

of relations between Saudi Arabia and Israel

is realistic well

under the present circumstances

with Mr Netanyahu and his government

saying that

they are not going to recognize the Palestinian state

the Kingdom is not going to recognize Israel