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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,268 --> 00:00:02,997 In the criminal justice system 2 00:00:03,070 --> 00:00:06,870 the people are represented by two separate yet equally important groups, 3 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:08,769 the police who investigate crime 4 00:00:08,876 --> 00:00:11,641 and the district attorneys who prosecute the offenders. 5 00:00:11,745 --> 00:00:13,144 These are their stories. 6 00:00:14,548 --> 00:00:16,141 Officer, officer. 7 00:00:16,216 --> 00:00:18,661 Whoa, whoa, street cleaning, lady, I already started writing the ticket. 8 00:00:18,685 --> 00:00:20,949 Look, look what I found, from a Chumash. 9 00:00:21,121 --> 00:00:23,089 It's a shanda, I tell you, a shanda. 10 00:00:23,156 --> 00:00:24,156 Yeah, I'm sure it is. 11 00:00:24,224 --> 00:00:26,921 People say it can't happen again, but look at this! 12 00:00:26,994 --> 00:00:28,359 You've got to do something! 13 00:00:28,629 --> 00:00:31,229 Look, lady, why don't you call the precinct, and somebody might... 14 00:00:32,165 --> 00:00:33,633 Oh, looks like blood on there. 15 00:00:35,335 --> 00:00:36,666 Where'd you get these? 16 00:00:37,104 --> 00:00:41,063 There's one! There's some, there's some! Get it, get it! 17 00:00:42,976 --> 00:00:44,671 What the hell? Stop him! 18 00:00:46,580 --> 00:00:47,775 Are you crazy? 19 00:00:49,049 --> 00:00:53,680 Gently, gently, treat them gently. Get them all. Get all of them! 20 00:00:54,421 --> 00:00:55,855 Those pages are from a holy book. 21 00:00:55,923 --> 00:00:57,152 Central, this is 2-7 Charlie. 22 00:00:57,224 --> 00:00:59,955 Let me get some Traffic Control down here at Hester and Eldridge. 23 00:01:01,028 --> 00:01:02,325 Stay right there. 24 00:01:05,632 --> 00:01:07,157 Central, 2-7 Charlie again. 25 00:01:07,801 --> 00:01:10,065 Make that a bus and a supervisor, forthwith. 26 00:01:12,172 --> 00:01:14,551 I checked his Vitals then I called for a supervisor and a bus. 27 00:01:14,575 --> 00:01:16,168 Well, was anybody around the building? 28 00:01:16,343 --> 00:01:19,438 Are you kidding? There was like a mob of people out here chasing those pages. 29 00:01:19,546 --> 00:01:20,945 What the hell happened to them? 30 00:01:21,014 --> 00:01:22,292 They scattered when the RMPs showed up. 31 00:01:22,316 --> 00:01:24,060 And nobody said anything about what happened? 32 00:01:24,084 --> 00:01:25,495 They wouldn't even give me any names. 33 00:01:25,519 --> 00:01:27,647 They were really pissed off, though. Thanks. 34 00:01:27,721 --> 00:01:29,780 I live right around the corner from the shul. 35 00:01:29,856 --> 00:01:31,290 I walk by here every day. 36 00:01:31,358 --> 00:01:34,070 And when you came by here this morning, did you notice anything suspicious? 37 00:01:34,094 --> 00:01:38,258 The pages! Thrown all over the ground where everybody can walk! 38 00:01:38,498 --> 00:01:40,310 Well, did you see anybody fighting around here? 39 00:01:40,334 --> 00:01:41,665 Nobody fighting. 40 00:01:41,802 --> 00:01:43,793 We need more police in this neighborhood, 41 00:01:43,870 --> 00:01:46,396 so things like this never happen anymore. 42 00:01:46,473 --> 00:01:49,633 Yes, ma'am. The sergeant will make sure you get home safe, all right? Thank you. 43 00:01:50,243 --> 00:01:51,243 Thank you very much. 44 00:01:52,613 --> 00:01:55,742 Blunt force trauma to the head. Looks like a fractured skull. 45 00:01:55,816 --> 00:01:57,682 When? About an hour or two. 46 00:01:57,818 --> 00:01:59,047 He's still warm. 47 00:01:59,119 --> 00:02:00,518 Any ID or a wallet? 48 00:02:00,921 --> 00:02:04,289 Nothing in his pockets. Uh, I didn't want to move him till you had a look. 49 00:02:04,391 --> 00:02:06,189 Okay, let's roll him. 50 00:02:12,232 --> 00:02:13,232 It's Hebrew. 51 00:02:14,234 --> 00:02:16,760 Wow, must have been some special book. 52 00:02:17,404 --> 00:02:19,270 Fasten your seat belt. 53 00:03:07,821 --> 00:03:10,119 Ah, this is a Polish edition of the Hebrew Torah. 54 00:03:10,223 --> 00:03:11,452 The Old Testament. 55 00:03:11,625 --> 00:03:13,457 Looks like it's 60 or 70 years old. 56 00:03:13,527 --> 00:03:15,188 And all that damage was done recently? 57 00:03:15,262 --> 00:03:16,661 Yeah, the tearing is fresh. 58 00:03:16,730 --> 00:03:19,199 Uh, see, paper is organic so when it oxidizes... 59 00:03:19,266 --> 00:03:21,496 Beck, Beck�. How fresh is the blood on these pages? 60 00:03:21,568 --> 00:03:23,627 It's brand-spanking new. Matches the victim's. 61 00:03:23,704 --> 00:03:26,366 But the test on the saliva won't be back for a few days. 62 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:27,669 Saliva? Somebody spit on it? 63 00:03:27,741 --> 00:03:29,004 Uh-huh. Ls that a crime? 64 00:03:29,076 --> 00:03:30,076 Murder is. 65 00:03:30,143 --> 00:03:32,168 Okay, but how do you know if the dead guy 66 00:03:32,245 --> 00:03:34,475 was trying to protect the book or rip it up? 67 00:03:37,350 --> 00:03:39,717 Your John Doe's in his late 20s, fit. 68 00:03:40,454 --> 00:03:43,094 From his tan line, it's probably a good bet that he works outdoors. 69 00:03:43,156 --> 00:03:45,250 Any prison tats? Aryan Brotherhood stuff? 70 00:03:45,392 --> 00:03:46,553 No, clean as a baby. 71 00:03:46,626 --> 00:03:47,866 According to the Old Testament, 72 00:03:47,928 --> 00:03:49,657 it's blasphemy to mark your body. 73 00:03:50,030 --> 00:03:52,499 Well, somebody marked him, with something heavy. 74 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:55,061 It shattered his temporal bone, 75 00:03:55,435 --> 00:03:56,994 subdural hematoma killed him. 76 00:03:57,337 --> 00:03:58,617 These bruises on his shoulder... 77 00:03:58,672 --> 00:04:01,112 Yeah, he's got half a dozen defensive wounds on his arms, too. 78 00:04:01,141 --> 00:04:02,939 Fending off whoever was waling on him. 79 00:04:03,410 --> 00:04:04,844 You mind if I take a look? 80 00:04:05,045 --> 00:04:06,274 Knock yourself out. 81 00:04:09,149 --> 00:04:10,583 Well, there's one clue. 82 00:04:10,650 --> 00:04:12,618 Our John Doe is not circumcised. 83 00:04:13,820 --> 00:04:15,720 My constituents want answers, information. 84 00:04:15,789 --> 00:04:17,257 Anything. This was blasphemy! 85 00:04:17,390 --> 00:04:19,035 And I'd be happy to work with you, Councilman... 86 00:04:19,059 --> 00:04:20,891 Have you seen what's going on Delancey Street? 87 00:04:20,961 --> 00:04:22,725 Orthodox men are blocking traffic! 88 00:04:22,796 --> 00:04:25,197 Our Hate Crime Task Force and Community Affairs 89 00:04:25,298 --> 00:04:26,629 have already been notified. 90 00:04:26,700 --> 00:04:29,178 You better get some boots on the ground before there's a riot out there. 91 00:04:29,202 --> 00:04:30,242 You know what, Councilman? 92 00:04:30,437 --> 00:04:33,896 It's also your responsibility to keep the people calm! 93 00:04:33,974 --> 00:04:36,443 Easier done if their concerns were taken seriously 94 00:04:36,543 --> 00:04:38,637 by the police, the FBI... 95 00:04:38,779 --> 00:04:40,611 We're not ready to call this terrorism. 96 00:04:40,714 --> 00:04:41,806 What is it, then? 97 00:04:41,982 --> 00:04:43,916 Have you spoken to the Palestinian man 98 00:04:43,984 --> 00:04:45,748 working at the Laundromat on Grant Street? 99 00:04:45,952 --> 00:04:47,181 Fadi Abu Libdeh? 100 00:04:47,487 --> 00:04:51,151 He harasses the congregation walking to that synagogue on Saturdays. 101 00:04:51,291 --> 00:04:52,622 He says things to the children! 102 00:04:52,692 --> 00:04:54,319 Look, him being rude 103 00:04:54,394 --> 00:04:56,692 doesn't tie him to this desecration. 104 00:04:56,830 --> 00:04:59,891 There was an arson at the Cultural Center on Forsythe Street last year. 105 00:04:59,966 --> 00:05:02,025 The police called him in for questioning. 106 00:05:02,335 --> 00:05:04,099 Was there an arrest? No! 107 00:05:04,871 --> 00:05:06,566 These people have lived in peace 108 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:08,165 on the Lower East Side for 100 years. 109 00:05:08,241 --> 00:05:09,504 The Arabs opened up businesses, 110 00:05:09,576 --> 00:05:11,806 now there's graffiti on the temples, 111 00:05:11,878 --> 00:05:13,346 insults, a fire! 112 00:05:13,713 --> 00:05:14,713 We'll talk to them. 113 00:05:14,781 --> 00:05:17,546 You better! Or I'm going to raise hell like you've never seen before. 114 00:05:22,689 --> 00:05:23,689 Wow. 115 00:05:25,458 --> 00:05:26,948 With all due respect, Lieutenant, 116 00:05:27,027 --> 00:05:30,258 what does a Arab have to do with a dead white guy? 117 00:05:30,330 --> 00:05:32,765 Well, this wasn't some random murder. 118 00:05:33,133 --> 00:05:34,999 It's connected to that book. 119 00:05:35,769 --> 00:05:36,998 Figure out how. 120 00:05:40,540 --> 00:05:42,099 Who's saying these things about me? 121 00:05:42,175 --> 00:05:43,939 Do you yell insults at them or not? 122 00:05:44,110 --> 00:05:45,669 I have no interest in these people. 123 00:05:45,745 --> 00:05:48,510 Arabs, get out of here! Get out of here! 124 00:05:48,982 --> 00:05:50,693 I can see you're all good friends down here. 125 00:05:50,717 --> 00:05:53,186 This is our store, I do laundry, that is all. 126 00:05:53,286 --> 00:05:54,664 Well, what about the fire last year? 127 00:05:54,688 --> 00:05:56,122 I was cleared, 100%! 128 00:05:56,189 --> 00:05:57,384 Isn't this the flag of Hamas? 129 00:05:57,457 --> 00:05:58,583 It is a wall calendar. 130 00:05:58,658 --> 00:05:59,658 What does it mean to you? 131 00:05:59,726 --> 00:06:00,726 Tells me what day it is! 132 00:06:00,827 --> 00:06:02,505 And maybe how you feel about Jewish people? 133 00:06:02,529 --> 00:06:04,054 It's just a calendar. 134 00:06:04,197 --> 00:06:05,675 So it wouldn't spike your blood pressure 135 00:06:05,699 --> 00:06:06,928 if I threw it in the gutter? 136 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:08,644 I may have a political disagreement Yeah, what's u p? 137 00:06:08,668 --> 00:06:11,228 With the people who illegally invaded my homeland, 138 00:06:11,304 --> 00:06:12,348 whose soldiers slaughter... 139 00:06:12,372 --> 00:06:13,897 If you have any involvement 140 00:06:14,174 --> 00:06:16,404 with the dead person at the synagogue, 141 00:06:16,543 --> 00:06:18,307 let's get in front of it now. 142 00:06:19,512 --> 00:06:22,880 He's no one I know. I heard it was a white guy. 143 00:06:22,949 --> 00:06:25,213 Okay, thanks. His name's Jeffrey Kilgore. 144 00:06:25,352 --> 00:06:27,753 For Jeffrey Kilgore, Alhamdu-Iillah. 145 00:06:28,321 --> 00:06:29,948 But I have nothing to do with this. 146 00:06:30,590 --> 00:06:31,590 Excuse me. 147 00:06:32,726 --> 00:06:33,750 Jeffrey Kilgore? 148 00:06:33,827 --> 00:06:36,853 Yeah, the prints came back. His last known was Patchogue, in Suffolk County. 149 00:06:36,930 --> 00:06:39,141 He did a bullet a few years back for commercial burglary. 150 00:06:39,165 --> 00:06:40,245 Let's put a pin in this guy 151 00:06:40,300 --> 00:06:42,667 and see if anyone at synagogue knows Kilgore. 152 00:06:46,539 --> 00:06:49,975 Detectives, this is Father Royce and Imam Adjani. 153 00:06:50,277 --> 00:06:51,277 Sir. 154 00:06:51,511 --> 00:06:53,240 Father. Sir. 155 00:06:53,313 --> 00:06:54,593 They came to offer their support 156 00:06:54,648 --> 00:06:56,138 in this terrible time. 157 00:06:56,216 --> 00:06:57,650 We were hoping that we can ask you 158 00:06:57,717 --> 00:06:59,549 some questions privately, Rabbi. 159 00:07:00,287 --> 00:07:01,516 If you need anything, Rabbi. 160 00:07:01,855 --> 00:07:04,187 Let's all pray that cooler heads prevail. 161 00:07:04,925 --> 00:07:05,925 Mmm-hmm. 162 00:07:11,197 --> 00:07:13,637 Rabbi, this is the man that was killed outside your synagogue. 163 00:07:13,667 --> 00:07:15,533 His name is Jeffrey Kilgore. 164 00:07:16,002 --> 00:07:18,061 I've never seen this man in my life. 165 00:07:18,772 --> 00:07:21,833 Why would he come here and defile our shul like this? 166 00:07:21,908 --> 00:07:24,809 Our more immediate concern is why somebody would murder him. 167 00:07:24,978 --> 00:07:29,415 But surely it's no coincidence that he died holding a book from our sanctuary. 168 00:07:30,016 --> 00:07:32,041 This goes to a much larger issue! 169 00:07:32,452 --> 00:07:34,772 Would you mind if we saw the place where the book was kept? 170 00:07:36,356 --> 00:07:40,623 After the incident, I found several torn pages scattered about here. 171 00:07:41,328 --> 00:07:43,194 Exodus, Chapter 3. 172 00:07:43,296 --> 00:07:44,821 Moses and the burning bush. 173 00:07:45,131 --> 00:07:47,031 Are you a religious man, Detective Green? 174 00:07:47,267 --> 00:07:48,291 I was raised that way. 175 00:07:48,368 --> 00:07:51,030 So, what can you tell us about this bible? 176 00:07:51,504 --> 00:07:54,940 It's a Chumash, it's a copy of our Torah, 177 00:07:55,008 --> 00:07:56,874 which we read from during the services. 178 00:07:56,943 --> 00:07:58,741 It's the lifeblood of our people. 179 00:07:59,612 --> 00:08:03,173 This one belonged to Barry Speicher, who's the president of our congregation. 180 00:08:03,416 --> 00:08:05,817 He kept it on the bamah, right by his chair. 181 00:08:05,885 --> 00:08:08,650 Was this sanctuary in use yesterday morning, Rabbi? 182 00:08:08,888 --> 00:08:11,118 Morning prayers ended about 8:30. 183 00:08:11,391 --> 00:08:12,517 No one else in the building? 184 00:08:12,592 --> 00:08:15,823 Oh, there were quite a few people upstairs. Teachers, children, 185 00:08:16,229 --> 00:08:20,325 the girls in the synagogue office are on, too, but not down here. 186 00:08:20,533 --> 00:08:23,468 The man easily could have walked in here without anybody seeing him. 187 00:08:23,603 --> 00:08:26,095 So anybody could just walk through the front door? 188 00:08:26,272 --> 00:08:28,434 We don't lock up until after evening service. 189 00:08:29,109 --> 00:08:31,100 We had a guard about five years ago, 190 00:08:31,678 --> 00:08:35,171 when that neo-Nazi shot at the Jewish school children in California. 191 00:08:35,615 --> 00:08:37,640 Thankfully, that's not what this is about. 192 00:08:37,717 --> 00:08:39,742 But it was a man sending a message. 193 00:08:41,121 --> 00:08:42,919 We must always be vigilant. 194 00:08:45,125 --> 00:08:48,322 My father smuggled that Chumash out of the Warsaw Ghetto. 195 00:08:49,562 --> 00:08:51,894 He would have been shot on sight if he was caught with it. 196 00:08:53,333 --> 00:08:56,428 He hid it in a hayloft while he was on the run from the Nazis. 197 00:08:57,404 --> 00:09:00,806 Thirty-five years later, he went back to Poland, 198 00:09:01,207 --> 00:09:03,039 he found it right where he left it. 199 00:09:04,277 --> 00:09:06,302 My father passed away eight years ago. 200 00:09:06,446 --> 00:09:08,972 I've read from that Chumash almost every day since. 201 00:09:09,516 --> 00:09:10,516 Listen, 202 00:09:11,151 --> 00:09:12,346 do you know this man? 203 00:09:12,552 --> 00:09:14,020 His name's Jeffrey Kilgore. 204 00:09:14,587 --> 00:09:16,282 No, is he the one who destroyed my book? 205 00:09:16,489 --> 00:09:18,529 You haven't seen him around the neighborhood at all? 206 00:09:18,825 --> 00:09:19,825 No. 207 00:09:20,493 --> 00:09:22,723 Have you talked to the man who shouts insults? 208 00:09:22,829 --> 00:09:25,457 The Palestinian? So far we can't tie him to Kilgore. 209 00:09:25,565 --> 00:09:28,967 How about to everything else that's happened in this neighborhood recently? 210 00:09:29,402 --> 00:09:30,597 It's enough already. 211 00:09:31,137 --> 00:09:34,869 Our congregation has been on the Lower East Side since 1928. 212 00:09:36,142 --> 00:09:37,632 Maybe it's time to move on. 213 00:09:39,646 --> 00:09:42,326 Well, we'll let you know if there's any new developments, all right? 214 00:09:45,919 --> 00:09:49,822 So, where's the smart money? Somebody inside the building who caught Kilgore in the act? 215 00:09:49,923 --> 00:09:52,034 Or somebody in the neighborhood who saw him coming out. 216 00:09:52,058 --> 00:09:53,423 What do you suggest, Detective? 217 00:09:53,493 --> 00:09:57,396 I say due diligence on Jeffrey Kilgore before we point any more fingers. 218 00:10:01,034 --> 00:10:03,093 You a relative? Girlfriend. 219 00:10:03,736 --> 00:10:05,226 We're sorry for your loss, Miss... 220 00:10:05,472 --> 00:10:06,667 Uh, Kayla Watson. 221 00:10:06,739 --> 00:10:08,833 Miss Watson, what did your boyfriend do for a living? 222 00:10:09,476 --> 00:10:10,671 He was a mason. 223 00:10:11,878 --> 00:10:14,210 Stone walls, patios, stuff like that. 224 00:10:16,216 --> 00:10:18,048 This doesn't make any sense. 225 00:10:18,852 --> 00:10:21,685 They said on TV that Jeff tore up a Jewish bible. 226 00:10:23,123 --> 00:10:25,956 Did he belong to any clubs or political groups? 227 00:10:26,126 --> 00:10:27,287 Political groups? 228 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:30,159 People who might not think too kindly of Jewish people. 229 00:10:30,296 --> 00:10:32,321 Jeff didn't have anything against them. 230 00:10:32,632 --> 00:10:34,944 I mean, the ones he worked for would try to get out of their bills 231 00:10:34,968 --> 00:10:36,800 and say that he didn't do the work right. 232 00:10:38,671 --> 00:10:40,867 But not all of them, just sometimes. 233 00:10:42,075 --> 00:10:43,702 Like the rich ones in the Hamptons. 234 00:10:43,877 --> 00:10:45,709 What was he doing in the city on Tuesday? 235 00:10:46,346 --> 00:10:47,346 I don't know. 236 00:10:48,014 --> 00:10:49,574 Did he have any friends or family there? 237 00:10:50,517 --> 00:10:51,517 No. 238 00:10:51,951 --> 00:10:55,182 He hated New York. He wouldn't even go there to collect from a client. 239 00:10:55,555 --> 00:10:57,887 Some guy owed him money, and he sent me to pick it up. 240 00:10:58,725 --> 00:11:00,124 Who did you pick up from? 241 00:11:01,761 --> 00:11:03,024 I don't know his name. 242 00:11:04,164 --> 00:11:07,134 I just met him on a corner, he gave me cash, $2,500. 243 00:11:07,634 --> 00:11:09,193 What did this guy look like? 244 00:11:09,402 --> 00:11:12,235 Shorter than Jeff, in his 30s or 40s. 245 00:11:13,973 --> 00:11:14,973 A Jewish guy. 246 00:11:15,608 --> 00:11:16,871 How do you know he was Jewish? 247 00:11:17,043 --> 00:11:19,740 I heard him talk, he was definitely a New York Jew. 248 00:11:22,782 --> 00:11:26,548 So, did this man Kilgore belong to some anti-Semitic organization? 249 00:11:26,619 --> 00:11:28,314 We have no evidence of that. 250 00:11:28,388 --> 00:11:31,167 Rabbi, we're going to want to speak to the people that were here at the time. 251 00:11:31,191 --> 00:11:34,456 Why? You think somebody saw this and didn't come forward? 252 00:11:34,727 --> 00:11:36,593 The man was killed on your doorstep, Rabbi. 253 00:11:37,530 --> 00:11:39,362 You're saying you think it was someone here? 254 00:11:39,999 --> 00:11:42,077 Actually, we're going to need the names and the addresses 255 00:11:42,101 --> 00:11:43,933 of all the members of your congregation. 256 00:11:44,204 --> 00:11:45,330 That's out of the question. 257 00:11:45,405 --> 00:11:48,565 We're not going to supply the government with a list of people who worship here. 258 00:11:48,608 --> 00:11:50,337 We're investigating a murder, Rabbi. 259 00:11:50,410 --> 00:11:52,606 What the Rabbi's trying to say is we're not authorized 260 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:55,171 to disseminate personal information like that. 261 00:11:55,915 --> 00:11:58,179 You either help us solve this crime, 262 00:11:58,284 --> 00:12:01,364 or we're going to bring it to the attention of the District Attorney's office. 263 00:12:01,421 --> 00:12:04,447 Go ahead. You're just here looking for a scapegoat. 264 00:12:08,561 --> 00:12:09,960 Michael, I'll call you back. 265 00:12:10,196 --> 00:12:12,631 This was just faxed to me from the mayor's office. 266 00:12:12,899 --> 00:12:16,062 It's a subpoena duces tecum to the Beth Tefiloh Synagogue 267 00:12:16,369 --> 00:12:19,828 for the names and addresses of any and all current members of the congregation. 268 00:12:19,906 --> 00:12:22,568 We needed to provide the police with a finite list of suspects. 269 00:12:22,642 --> 00:12:25,577 It's a demand for a list of Jews, Alexandra. 270 00:12:25,645 --> 00:12:27,875 Sure, but if the murder scene was at a church, 271 00:12:27,947 --> 00:12:29,745 we'd be asking for a list of Christians. 272 00:12:29,816 --> 00:12:32,615 Well, how about exercising a little historical sensitivity? 273 00:12:33,386 --> 00:12:35,377 These aren't storm troopers, Arthur, 274 00:12:35,455 --> 00:12:37,856 they're police officers investigating a homicide. 275 00:12:37,924 --> 00:12:40,416 I'm getting calls from here to Tel Aviv on this case. 276 00:12:40,493 --> 00:12:42,461 I want you to back off, withdraw the subpoena, 277 00:12:42,528 --> 00:12:45,429 and tell the detectives to come up with Plan B. 278 00:12:52,038 --> 00:12:55,318 The synagogue's newsletter says that there's over 100 families in the congregation. 279 00:12:55,408 --> 00:12:58,503 Whose names we have no access to, thanks to the D.A.'s office. 280 00:12:58,578 --> 00:13:00,789 And they won't get us a search warrant for the synagogue. 281 00:13:00,813 --> 00:13:03,612 And the Rabbi has decided not to let us back into the building. 282 00:13:03,683 --> 00:13:05,094 We're hitting brick walls left and right. 283 00:13:05,118 --> 00:13:08,088 Well, are you sure Kilgore was paid to do this? 284 00:13:08,187 --> 00:13:10,212 When are we absolutely sure of anything? 285 00:13:10,423 --> 00:13:13,882 The only political cause Kilgore had were some posters from NASCAR. 286 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:16,292 And nobody owed him that kind of money from masonry. 287 00:13:16,362 --> 00:13:19,730 Okay, but why would someone retain his services for this? 288 00:13:19,799 --> 00:13:22,598 Well, maybe someone who had something against the congregation? 289 00:13:22,969 --> 00:13:24,869 Or a particular member. 290 00:13:25,238 --> 00:13:28,469 Well, the book holds sentimental value for the congregation's president. 291 00:13:28,675 --> 00:13:31,007 So, if it's not political, maybe it's personal. 292 00:13:31,444 --> 00:13:33,378 Talk to Barry Speicher, again. 293 00:13:37,116 --> 00:13:39,915 Barry's downtown at a Preservation Committee hearing. 294 00:13:39,986 --> 00:13:42,284 I'm his partner, Eric Speicher. 295 00:13:42,355 --> 00:13:43,823 You're his brother? Cousin. 296 00:13:44,090 --> 00:13:45,567 Are you guys here about Uncle Daniel's book? 297 00:13:45,591 --> 00:13:46,591 Well, and the murder. 298 00:13:46,659 --> 00:13:49,060 What a thing, huh? Makes me sick. 299 00:13:49,195 --> 00:13:50,856 The whole congregation's up in arms. 300 00:13:50,997 --> 00:13:52,863 Was your partner here on Tuesday morning? 301 00:13:53,199 --> 00:13:55,190 He got in around 10:00. Why? 302 00:13:55,301 --> 00:13:56,301 He seem okay to you? 303 00:13:56,469 --> 00:13:57,994 Yeah. Everything was cool. 304 00:13:58,071 --> 00:14:00,062 Did he have any ongoing problems with anybody? 305 00:14:00,873 --> 00:14:03,740 Business disputes? Uh, tenant-landlord types of thing? 306 00:14:04,210 --> 00:14:06,304 We hire a management firm for that. 307 00:14:06,879 --> 00:14:09,211 Keep it arm's-length, so it's pretty low-key here. 308 00:14:09,482 --> 00:14:12,508 Ben-Daniel's a family company, as you can probably tell from the name. 309 00:14:12,752 --> 00:14:14,117 Ben and Daniel are your fathers? 310 00:14:14,287 --> 00:14:17,382 Yeah. It's a little old-fashioned, but we'd never change it. 311 00:14:18,157 --> 00:14:19,435 How about Barry's personal life? 312 00:14:19,459 --> 00:14:21,018 Fine, as far as I know. 313 00:14:21,094 --> 00:14:25,122 Uh, Barry did have some issues in his first marriage, but that was years ago. 314 00:14:25,365 --> 00:14:26,365 What kind of issues? 315 00:14:26,566 --> 00:14:28,432 His first wife couldn't have children. 316 00:14:28,501 --> 00:14:32,495 But Rachel's made him very happy. Five rug-rats, unless I missed one. 317 00:14:33,573 --> 00:14:36,406 I lived in Philadelphia when my husband and I first met. 318 00:14:36,476 --> 00:14:38,001 We married nine years ago. 319 00:14:38,478 --> 00:14:40,776 Wow, you do have a lot of kids. 320 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:42,858 Uh, do you remember what time your husband 321 00:14:42,882 --> 00:14:45,112 left the house last Tuesday, Mrs. Speicher? 322 00:14:45,184 --> 00:14:49,087 Uh, he was gone by 7:30. He always goes to morning services. 323 00:14:50,656 --> 00:14:52,090 That takes, what, about an hour? 324 00:14:52,492 --> 00:14:56,019 Except for Tuesdays, he stays for a Talmud study with Rabbi Geller. 325 00:14:56,763 --> 00:14:59,475 Now, do you have any ideas who would want to destroy this prayer book? 326 00:14:59,499 --> 00:15:01,194 Why would I know about any of this? 327 00:15:01,401 --> 00:15:02,994 Wasn't it somebody off the street? 328 00:15:04,070 --> 00:15:08,166 Has your husband had any difficulties recently? Maybe with his first wife? 329 00:15:08,408 --> 00:15:11,309 I wouldn't really know. Barry's a good provider. 330 00:15:11,677 --> 00:15:14,078 Our life was fine until that man mutilated... 331 00:15:16,015 --> 00:15:18,109 Did Barry tell you where that Torah was from? 332 00:15:19,986 --> 00:15:23,183 I don't want my children to know that kind of hatred. 333 00:15:25,458 --> 00:15:27,290 Tell me you guys have something for me. 334 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:28,794 Barry Speicher's financial records, 335 00:15:28,861 --> 00:15:30,295 so far the guy's a Boy Scout. 336 00:15:30,496 --> 00:15:32,741 But we can put him at the temple at the time of the murder. 337 00:15:32,765 --> 00:15:34,199 His charge accounts look spotless, 338 00:15:34,267 --> 00:15:37,601 there's contributions to a half-a-dozen Jewish charities every month, 339 00:15:37,670 --> 00:15:39,832 and flowers to his wife every Friday. 340 00:15:39,906 --> 00:15:41,431 He's either a saint or a sinner. 341 00:15:41,507 --> 00:15:43,839 Hey, check this out. This is his personal bank account. 342 00:15:44,076 --> 00:15:48,274 $400 withdrawals from the same ATM every Thursday night, like clockwork. 343 00:15:48,347 --> 00:15:51,180 Cash for the weekend, the Orthodox don't bank on their Sabbath. 344 00:15:51,250 --> 00:15:54,618 No, but the location's not Speicher's normal stomping ground. 345 00:15:54,854 --> 00:15:57,186 It's 545 West 23rd. 346 00:15:57,256 --> 00:16:01,284 545? I handled a double homicide at a hotel next door. 347 00:16:01,527 --> 00:16:02,892 It's a "gentleman's club." 348 00:16:03,062 --> 00:16:04,826 Four Benjis buys a whole lot of lap dances. 349 00:16:04,897 --> 00:16:06,023 Or something even better. 350 00:16:06,132 --> 00:16:09,568 A regular girl. We're missing a piece on Barry Speicher. 351 00:16:10,570 --> 00:16:14,336 Catch him away from his rabbi, we might be able to fill it in. 352 00:16:25,151 --> 00:16:26,243 Is Barry here yet? 353 00:16:26,719 --> 00:16:28,312 Barry who? Barry Speicher. 354 00:16:28,454 --> 00:16:30,548 He asked us to meet him here. Never heard of him. 355 00:16:30,656 --> 00:16:32,750 Maybe we should take this conversation out front 356 00:16:32,825 --> 00:16:35,419 so everyone can see how much you're enjoying yourselves. 357 00:16:37,430 --> 00:16:39,194 Barry had to make a shiva call. 358 00:16:39,465 --> 00:16:40,742 This is about his Chumash, isn't it? 359 00:16:40,766 --> 00:16:44,430 Our holy book was defiled. Someone should be held accountable. 360 00:16:45,738 --> 00:16:46,796 What do you know about it? 361 00:16:46,873 --> 00:16:50,104 Just that it happened. And the goy responsible is dead. 362 00:16:50,176 --> 00:16:52,440 So why did Barry miss this little celebration? 363 00:16:52,612 --> 00:16:55,707 I'm serious. He's really making a shiva call. 364 00:16:55,815 --> 00:16:59,251 And he wouldn't skip this obligation to cry on his girlfriend's shoulder? 365 00:16:59,452 --> 00:17:02,581 There's no girlfriend. He just comes in to relax, like the rest of us. 366 00:17:02,722 --> 00:17:06,181 The rebbes say, a happy husband makes a happy marriage. 367 00:17:06,259 --> 00:17:09,285 Which Barry has. His only flaw is being too trusting. 368 00:17:09,795 --> 00:17:12,708 Should learn to put a lock on his building so things like this don't happen. 369 00:17:12,732 --> 00:17:14,564 His building? The synagogue? 370 00:17:15,167 --> 00:17:17,568 He owns it. Him and his cousin. 371 00:17:18,704 --> 00:17:19,704 It's not a secret. 372 00:17:20,006 --> 00:17:23,874 Our congregation rents this property from the Speichers' company. 373 00:17:24,010 --> 00:17:25,273 Ben-Daniel Realty? 374 00:17:25,411 --> 00:17:26,936 They've been charging us the same rent 375 00:17:27,013 --> 00:17:30,472 since Daniel and Ben bought this place in 1952. 376 00:17:30,550 --> 00:17:31,779 Which is what? 377 00:17:31,918 --> 00:17:33,511 $800 a month. 378 00:17:34,253 --> 00:17:35,253 For the whole building? 379 00:17:35,321 --> 00:17:38,416 We couldn't afford to operate here if we had to pay market rent. 380 00:17:38,524 --> 00:17:40,618 The Speichers could get a hundred times that. 381 00:17:41,193 --> 00:17:44,561 Evicting your own synagogue must get you in trouble with the man upstairs. 382 00:17:44,764 --> 00:17:46,357 It's forbidden by the Talmud. 383 00:17:47,166 --> 00:17:49,794 It's quite a mitzvah that Barry is doing for us. 384 00:17:50,102 --> 00:17:51,126 How about Eric? 385 00:17:51,203 --> 00:17:52,203 Eric... 386 00:17:52,972 --> 00:17:56,499 After his Uncle Daniel died, Eric stopped coming to services, 387 00:17:56,576 --> 00:17:58,908 he doesn't even buy a seat on the High Holy Days. 388 00:17:59,145 --> 00:18:01,876 I tried talking to him about it, he's not interested. 389 00:18:06,118 --> 00:18:07,882 Look, I already told you everything I know. 390 00:18:07,954 --> 00:18:10,332 Yeah, like you said you were still a member of the congregation. 391 00:18:10,356 --> 00:18:11,380 I never said that. 392 00:18:11,457 --> 00:18:12,720 You led us to believe that. 393 00:18:12,792 --> 00:18:14,851 Are you accusing my husband of misleading you? 394 00:18:15,061 --> 00:18:16,859 We're accusing him of lying. 395 00:18:17,463 --> 00:18:20,023 I think we should continue this conversation at the precinct. 396 00:18:20,433 --> 00:18:22,128 Then let's go. Eric... 397 00:18:22,201 --> 00:18:25,398 Look, don't worry, baby. This is all just a big misunderstanding. 398 00:18:25,638 --> 00:18:26,799 Let me go clear it up. 399 00:18:30,876 --> 00:18:33,937 Why did you make it seem like you gave a damn about that book? 400 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:36,109 You think I don't care? 401 00:18:36,916 --> 00:18:39,317 My Uncle Daniel and my father were Holocaust survivors. 402 00:18:39,385 --> 00:18:41,479 This is the holiest book in our religion. 403 00:18:41,554 --> 00:18:43,113 Which you don't even use anymore. 404 00:18:43,189 --> 00:18:44,918 I'm sorry, are you attacking my beliefs now? 405 00:18:44,991 --> 00:18:47,187 Don't get all high and mighty with us, sit down. 406 00:18:48,294 --> 00:18:52,060 Now, we know you don't go to synagogue, and we know how you're living. 407 00:18:52,965 --> 00:18:54,694 You'll like this. 408 00:18:55,868 --> 00:18:56,868 Oh... 409 00:18:57,103 --> 00:19:00,129 You want to tell us about the home that you own in Southampton? 410 00:19:00,339 --> 00:19:02,273 Home of the Muffies and the Maxwells? 411 00:19:03,109 --> 00:19:06,101 That was 20 years ago, okay? There are plenty of Jews there now. 412 00:19:06,345 --> 00:19:10,612 And I'm sure they all used the same ex-burglar that you used to build your patio. 413 00:19:10,950 --> 00:19:12,961 We're going to bring in Kilgore's girlfriend from Long Island. 414 00:19:12,985 --> 00:19:14,180 Maybe you've met her before? 415 00:19:14,253 --> 00:19:16,187 I might have, I know people in construction. 416 00:19:21,527 --> 00:19:23,757 Last week, at 86th and Columbus? 417 00:19:26,699 --> 00:19:28,360 Okay, okay. 418 00:19:32,138 --> 00:19:35,164 I paid Kilgore to go to the synagogue and mess up the book. 419 00:19:36,776 --> 00:19:37,776 Why? 420 00:19:38,077 --> 00:19:40,341 The synagogue got tagged a few times. 421 00:19:41,047 --> 00:19:43,358 There'd been a lot of problems in the neighborhood with the Arabs. 422 00:19:43,382 --> 00:19:46,613 Barry's been threatening to sell the building and move the congregation, 423 00:19:46,686 --> 00:19:48,163 but he won't get off his ass and do it. 424 00:19:48,187 --> 00:19:50,622 You used this as a prod to get him to sell it? 425 00:19:50,856 --> 00:19:53,056 You know what we got offered for that building recently? 426 00:19:53,292 --> 00:19:54,919 $15,000,000. 427 00:19:55,227 --> 00:19:57,423 So you paid somebody to destroy the bible? 428 00:19:57,496 --> 00:19:58,520 It's a book! 429 00:19:58,597 --> 00:20:01,794 It's a book you just said your cousin's father saved from the Nazis! 430 00:20:01,867 --> 00:20:04,067 Oh, please! You know, Barry's religion is all about him. 431 00:20:04,403 --> 00:20:07,100 He loves to sit up there on that bamah and feel important. 432 00:20:07,707 --> 00:20:10,185 Every Rosh Hashana, he'll brag to anybody who'll listen about how 433 00:20:10,209 --> 00:20:12,678 he's leaving the business and moving to Israel. 434 00:20:12,978 --> 00:20:14,139 Yeah, well, guess what? 435 00:20:14,213 --> 00:20:17,148 After five years of hearing that crap, I got tired of waiting. 436 00:20:17,349 --> 00:20:19,818 So you sent Kilgore there to get his head beaten in? 437 00:20:21,287 --> 00:20:22,846 It wasn't supposed to happen like that. 438 00:20:23,489 --> 00:20:24,929 How'd you work this out with Kilgore? 439 00:20:25,357 --> 00:20:27,416 Barry's in a study group on Tuesday mornings. 440 00:20:28,394 --> 00:20:32,194 I called his cell phone to tell him there was an emergency at work. 441 00:20:32,798 --> 00:20:34,664 So he'd be the one to find the book. 442 00:20:34,934 --> 00:20:36,993 I had no idea anybody would get hurt. 443 00:20:37,269 --> 00:20:38,269 Beside your cousin? 444 00:20:40,773 --> 00:20:41,865 Beside my cousin. 445 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:49,873 You're interrupting, Detectives. 446 00:20:49,949 --> 00:20:52,111 We have a warrant, Rabbi, we need to see Mr. Speicher. 447 00:20:52,184 --> 00:20:54,585 We're in the middle of Ma'ariv, can't this wait? No. 448 00:20:54,687 --> 00:20:56,519 What happened? We had a talk with your cousin. 449 00:20:56,589 --> 00:20:58,567 We found blood on the umbrella stand in the coatroom. 450 00:20:58,591 --> 00:21:00,320 That bastard did this, didn't he? 451 00:21:00,392 --> 00:21:02,793 You're under arrest for the murder of Jeffrey Kilgore. 452 00:21:03,863 --> 00:21:05,592 Can we please take this outside? 453 00:21:06,165 --> 00:21:07,929 Too much has happened in here already. 454 00:21:14,473 --> 00:21:18,910 "Docket number 57503. People v. Barry Speicher. 455 00:21:19,345 --> 00:21:22,007 Charge of Murder in the Second Degree." 456 00:21:22,815 --> 00:21:24,374 How do you plead, Mr. Speicher? 457 00:21:24,683 --> 00:21:25,683 Not guilty. 458 00:21:26,051 --> 00:21:29,077 Co-owner of a real estate firm, president of his congregation, 459 00:21:29,688 --> 00:21:31,486 he looks like a pretty good bail risk to me. 460 00:21:31,557 --> 00:21:33,150 But he does have contacts in Israel. 461 00:21:33,225 --> 00:21:34,269 You want to hold that against him? 462 00:21:34,293 --> 00:21:36,057 Mr. Speicher had an obvious motive 463 00:21:36,128 --> 00:21:39,120 and an exclusive opportunity to commit this crime. 464 00:21:39,298 --> 00:21:42,063 The police recovered an umbrella stand from Beth Tefiloh 465 00:21:42,301 --> 00:21:45,635 with traces of the victim's blood and the defendant's fingerprints all over it. 466 00:21:45,704 --> 00:21:47,399 Along with God-knows-who else's. 467 00:21:47,473 --> 00:21:50,073 Let me remind the court that the so-called victim in this incident 468 00:21:50,109 --> 00:21:53,704 was a burglar who desecrated the holiest Judaic text. 469 00:21:53,813 --> 00:21:56,373 License to murder him in the street, Mr. Malloy? 470 00:21:56,448 --> 00:21:59,315 Whoever killed Mr. Kilgore was obviously responding 471 00:21:59,385 --> 00:22:01,376 to the severest form of provocation. 472 00:22:01,487 --> 00:22:03,455 Perhaps justifiably so. 473 00:22:03,989 --> 00:22:05,821 Uh, for the record, 474 00:22:07,026 --> 00:22:09,620 my client intends to testify at the grand jury. 475 00:22:09,695 --> 00:22:11,663 I'm sure Ms. Borgia can arrange that. 476 00:22:13,032 --> 00:22:14,898 L won't set a parade for you yet, Mr. Speicher. 477 00:22:14,967 --> 00:22:17,459 Turn over your passport, I'll set bail at $250,000. 478 00:22:18,571 --> 00:22:20,903 Barry Speicher made bail right after arraignment. 479 00:22:20,973 --> 00:22:23,635 I booked some time in the grand jury to present the case. 480 00:22:23,776 --> 00:22:27,303 Your sense is that Speicher's grand jury notice isn't a bluff? 481 00:22:27,613 --> 00:22:30,708 It sounds like a prelude to some kind of justification defense. 482 00:22:30,816 --> 00:22:32,580 "L was protecting a book." 483 00:22:32,651 --> 00:22:34,517 More like, "I was protecting our faith." 484 00:22:34,620 --> 00:22:37,021 From his cousin's blasphemy-for-hire. 485 00:22:37,089 --> 00:22:40,491 You weren't in the courtroom, Jack. This isn't playing like a family dispute. 486 00:22:40,626 --> 00:22:43,061 Speicher's some kind of hero. 487 00:22:43,329 --> 00:22:45,798 Speicher's justification defense won't hold water. 488 00:22:45,998 --> 00:22:47,523 Inside the courtroom, maybe. 489 00:22:48,500 --> 00:22:50,525 Have we had any plea discussions with Malloy? 490 00:22:50,603 --> 00:22:51,603 None. 491 00:22:51,704 --> 00:22:52,830 Well, set something up. 492 00:22:52,905 --> 00:22:53,905 What are you looking for? 493 00:22:54,006 --> 00:22:57,032 Man one. Sentence somewhere near the minimum. 494 00:22:57,109 --> 00:22:59,305 I don't know if that'll do it for me, Arthur. 495 00:23:00,112 --> 00:23:02,080 These cousins have done a lot of damage. 496 00:23:02,248 --> 00:23:03,977 Well, you don't have to tell me! 497 00:23:04,416 --> 00:23:06,180 That's why we need to do some fence-mending. 498 00:23:08,554 --> 00:23:10,386 I got my best suit dry-cleaned! 499 00:23:10,623 --> 00:23:13,718 I was expecting to be at the grand jury tomorrow with my client. 500 00:23:14,493 --> 00:23:16,791 You may still have a chance to wear it, Mr. Malloy, 501 00:23:16,862 --> 00:23:20,093 but I thought we should explore whether there's any common ground 502 00:23:20,165 --> 00:23:22,065 before we throw down the gauntlet. 503 00:23:22,868 --> 00:23:25,803 The only common ground for my client is a dismissal. 504 00:23:26,639 --> 00:23:29,370 Do you think you should walk away soot-free, Mr. Speicher? 505 00:23:29,909 --> 00:23:31,377 I'm not a criminal. 506 00:23:31,677 --> 00:23:33,304 You beat somebody to death. 507 00:23:34,013 --> 00:23:36,141 Are you a religious man, Mr. McCoy? 508 00:23:36,382 --> 00:23:37,781 That's beside the point. 509 00:23:38,017 --> 00:23:40,884 I don't think you can fully wrap your head around what happened here. 510 00:23:41,220 --> 00:23:42,654 Then talk to me, Mr. Malloy. 511 00:23:43,923 --> 00:23:46,392 Imagine finding someone defiling the place where you pray. 512 00:23:46,458 --> 00:23:48,722 Mutilating the cornerstone of your faith. 513 00:23:48,894 --> 00:23:50,658 I would be very upset, but that doesn't... 514 00:23:50,729 --> 00:23:52,197 Spare me the sanctimony! 515 00:23:52,698 --> 00:23:54,860 We all know Mr. Speicher isn't a Boy Scout. 516 00:23:54,934 --> 00:23:57,665 This isn't just about faith, this is about family! 517 00:23:58,137 --> 00:24:00,469 Kilgore trashed his father's legacy. 518 00:24:00,572 --> 00:24:03,473 If that's your defense, you're doing a disservice to your client. 519 00:24:03,709 --> 00:24:07,873 The justification statute doesn't cover a bible, or a memory. 520 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:10,442 It's about defending an actual human being. 521 00:24:10,582 --> 00:24:14,109 But I think that we can all agree that Mr. Speicher acted in the heat of the moment! 522 00:24:14,186 --> 00:24:17,247 He hammered Kilgore with the 10-pound marble base 523 00:24:17,323 --> 00:24:19,815 of an umbrella stand and left him to bleed to death! 524 00:24:19,925 --> 00:24:22,826 And I admit that, but he had the book. 525 00:24:23,228 --> 00:24:26,789 So, what does the bible you defended deem appropriate, Mr. Speicher? 526 00:24:27,566 --> 00:24:28,566 A free pass? 527 00:24:29,168 --> 00:24:30,168 Of course not. 528 00:24:30,235 --> 00:24:33,227 Because maybe the book is more precious than a human life! 529 00:24:41,113 --> 00:24:43,707 So if I'm found guilty, how much time could I do? 530 00:24:43,849 --> 00:24:45,715 On murder two, 25-to-life. 531 00:24:47,286 --> 00:24:49,687 I have a wife, I have five children 532 00:24:49,755 --> 00:24:52,053 whose bar mitzvahs I'll miss, weddings... 533 00:24:52,124 --> 00:24:55,185 A plea to manslaughter would solve most of those problems. 534 00:24:59,231 --> 00:25:00,528 You'll recommend the minimum? 535 00:25:00,899 --> 00:25:02,663 Five years, straight time. 536 00:25:08,107 --> 00:25:09,107 Today only. 537 00:25:14,513 --> 00:25:16,379 I guess that's fair. 538 00:25:21,053 --> 00:25:23,181 When do you want to calendar Speicher's sentencing? 539 00:25:23,255 --> 00:25:25,349 Give him a month or two to get his affairs in order. 540 00:25:25,858 --> 00:25:27,917 She insisted on speaking to you, Alexandra. 541 00:25:28,060 --> 00:25:29,585 I'm Barry Speicher's wife. 542 00:25:29,895 --> 00:25:31,795 I know, what can I do for you, Mrs. Speicher? 543 00:25:31,864 --> 00:25:35,664 My husband told me he's going to jail for five years? 544 00:25:36,101 --> 00:25:37,796 He agreed to it, it was a plea bargain. 545 00:25:37,870 --> 00:25:40,965 My husband is a good man, a family man. 546 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:42,064 I'm sure that he is. 547 00:25:42,141 --> 00:25:46,135 And now, because he can't work, we have to sell the synagogue. 548 00:25:46,612 --> 00:25:47,807 I'm sorry about that. 549 00:25:48,047 --> 00:25:49,344 What about the congregation? 550 00:25:49,548 --> 00:25:51,380 I don't know what's going to happen. 551 00:25:51,550 --> 00:25:54,713 But his cousin, yeah, he got everything he wanted. 552 00:25:55,020 --> 00:25:58,650 First, he sent that man into our shul, paid him to use our Chumash 553 00:25:59,625 --> 00:26:01,525 like toilet paper. 554 00:26:02,461 --> 00:26:04,793 That's our religion, Miss Borgia. 555 00:26:06,198 --> 00:26:09,793 And for doing that to his own people, you know what Eric gets? 556 00:26:11,303 --> 00:26:13,135 $7,000,000! 557 00:26:15,741 --> 00:26:17,175 That's all I want to say. 558 00:26:24,216 --> 00:26:26,207 He hired a man to mutilate a book. 559 00:26:26,285 --> 00:26:28,049 That doesn't translate into a homicide! 560 00:26:28,120 --> 00:26:31,385 Kilgore died because Eric Speicher's actions placed him in peril. 561 00:26:31,457 --> 00:26:32,457 It's manslaughter. 562 00:26:32,658 --> 00:26:35,684 He could foresee that his cousin was going to fly into a violent rage? 563 00:26:35,761 --> 00:26:37,286 That was his stated purpose. 564 00:26:37,496 --> 00:26:39,021 Without the homicide! 565 00:26:39,331 --> 00:26:42,232 You were out of the fire, now you want to jump back into the frying pan. 566 00:26:42,334 --> 00:26:44,496 Kilgore's dead because Eric Speicher 567 00:26:44,736 --> 00:26:47,296 aimed the most powerful gun he could find at him! 568 00:26:48,907 --> 00:26:50,033 Religious fervor. 569 00:26:50,109 --> 00:26:52,510 The nitroglycerine of the 21st century. 570 00:26:53,545 --> 00:26:55,172 That's what makes me so nervous. 571 00:26:55,247 --> 00:26:58,740 A Torah's been desecrated, and the only people who are going to jail are Jewish! 572 00:26:58,851 --> 00:27:01,252 What Eric Speicher did is unconscionable. 573 00:27:01,620 --> 00:27:03,679 If we can't go after the bad guys, what's the point? 574 00:27:04,456 --> 00:27:06,390 I'm all for going after the bad guys 575 00:27:06,458 --> 00:27:08,790 if we've got a legal theory to hang our hat on! 576 00:27:09,728 --> 00:27:10,728 I'll tell you what, 577 00:27:11,630 --> 00:27:14,895 I'll handle the law if you'll handle the political fallout. 578 00:27:16,235 --> 00:27:19,000 Then we can remind ourselves how noble our motives were, 579 00:27:19,071 --> 00:27:22,564 as we're both sitting around waiting for outplacement counseling. 580 00:27:26,678 --> 00:27:30,808 Manslaughter? Oh, you are pulling this one so far out of your... 581 00:27:30,883 --> 00:27:32,749 It's textbook recklessness. 582 00:27:32,818 --> 00:27:36,220 Your client should have considered the consequences when he retained Kilgore 583 00:27:36,455 --> 00:27:40,085 to burglarize a synagogue and desecrate a family bible. 584 00:27:40,659 --> 00:27:43,287 Look, I admit I did a terrible thing. 585 00:27:43,428 --> 00:27:46,454 Never mind that a man was killed, you nearly started a race riot. 586 00:27:47,065 --> 00:27:48,743 I never thought it would turn out like that. 587 00:27:48,767 --> 00:27:51,702 Have you read the front page of a newspaper lately, Mr. Speicher? 588 00:27:52,171 --> 00:27:55,038 You used religious paranoia to shake down your cousin. 589 00:27:55,107 --> 00:27:58,168 And the bottom line is you acted out of greed! 590 00:27:58,844 --> 00:28:00,437 You think it's that simple? 591 00:28:00,612 --> 00:28:03,047 From where I sit, it's about $7,000,000. 592 00:28:05,517 --> 00:28:09,181 I've been treated like garbage, because I won't buy into what they believe. 593 00:28:10,389 --> 00:28:14,451 My father had to pay my Uncle Daniel to make me a partner. 594 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,827 My holier-than-thou cousin, he wouldn't even come to my wedding! 595 00:28:19,097 --> 00:28:20,690 His family won't eat what my wife makes, 596 00:28:20,766 --> 00:28:23,167 they bring their own food and paper plates... 597 00:28:23,235 --> 00:28:24,430 Eric... Why? No! 598 00:28:24,503 --> 00:28:27,029 Why do I have to live my life by their rules? 599 00:28:27,172 --> 00:28:29,163 You can live any way you want to, Mr. Speicher, 600 00:28:29,241 --> 00:28:31,642 you don't have to savage other people's values! 601 00:28:31,810 --> 00:28:33,801 All this self-righteous hand-wringing, 602 00:28:33,879 --> 00:28:35,745 "Oh, my father's sacred book, 603 00:28:35,814 --> 00:28:38,374 "he saved it from the Nazis." Please. Okay? 604 00:28:38,450 --> 00:28:41,545 My Uncle Daniel was a handler, a businessman, 605 00:28:41,820 --> 00:28:43,379 he survived on his wits. 606 00:28:43,455 --> 00:28:46,982 In the Warsaw Ghetto, he would have traded that book for three potatoes! 607 00:28:47,326 --> 00:28:50,921 And desecrating your cousin's bible was going to get you your three potatoes. 608 00:28:51,096 --> 00:28:53,929 I thought maybe they'd get scared and move. 609 00:28:54,032 --> 00:28:57,832 And a part of me just wanted to lash out against Barry. 610 00:28:58,036 --> 00:28:59,036 But... 611 00:28:59,338 --> 00:29:00,338 I... 612 00:29:00,405 --> 00:29:02,203 I never expected... 613 00:29:04,509 --> 00:29:05,509 This. 614 00:29:06,878 --> 00:29:10,075 So, what can you do for us, Mr. McCoy? 615 00:29:10,382 --> 00:29:14,842 The same thing we do for a drunk driver who causes a fatality. 616 00:29:16,221 --> 00:29:17,950 Reckless manslaughter. 617 00:29:19,124 --> 00:29:20,124 Six years. 618 00:29:21,260 --> 00:29:22,728 But I didn't kill anybody! 619 00:29:25,731 --> 00:29:27,756 That's why we have trials. 620 00:29:31,670 --> 00:29:33,695 We'll call you to the stand last, Mr. Speicher. 621 00:29:33,772 --> 00:29:35,866 We'll put in all the pieces with our other witnesses, 622 00:29:35,941 --> 00:29:37,739 but then you'll tie it all together. 623 00:29:37,809 --> 00:29:38,809 Okay. 624 00:29:38,877 --> 00:29:41,676 You'll have to be totally truthful about what you did to Jeff Kilgore. 625 00:29:41,747 --> 00:29:45,206 I have no problem with that, as long as I get to say what Eric did. 626 00:29:45,284 --> 00:29:47,582 We'll get most of that in through the other witnesses, 627 00:29:47,653 --> 00:29:50,782 your testimony is primarily to establish Eric's motive. 628 00:29:50,922 --> 00:29:53,016 Can I tell how he hated our religion? 629 00:29:53,292 --> 00:29:54,760 Facts, Mr. Speicher. 630 00:29:54,826 --> 00:29:57,523 That the only reason he ever set foot in Beth Tefiloh 631 00:29:57,596 --> 00:30:00,088 was so my father would give him a piece of the business? 632 00:30:00,198 --> 00:30:02,724 We want to focus on your strained relationship. 633 00:30:02,801 --> 00:30:05,793 Can I testify about the time that son-of-a-bitch threatened to kill me? 634 00:30:06,171 --> 00:30:09,471 Look, Mr. Speicher. You can't come off like a hothead. 635 00:30:09,574 --> 00:30:12,020 The whole idea here is that even though you've killed somebody, 636 00:30:12,044 --> 00:30:14,274 you've also been victimized by your cousin's actions. 637 00:30:14,346 --> 00:30:15,677 It wasn't just me. 638 00:30:15,747 --> 00:30:19,741 Can I tell about all the arguments we had over the synagogue? 639 00:30:21,987 --> 00:30:23,785 Let's go over these things one by one. 640 00:30:28,727 --> 00:30:31,958 Jeff asked me to go into the city and pick up some money some guy owed him. 641 00:30:32,464 --> 00:30:33,795 Did he say what for? 642 00:30:34,900 --> 00:30:37,995 A job. He was supposed to get $2,500 up front. 643 00:30:38,403 --> 00:30:40,838 What instructions did Jeff give you for the meeting? 644 00:30:41,006 --> 00:30:43,532 Just to go to the corner of 86th and Columbus. 645 00:30:43,842 --> 00:30:47,301 The guy would know what I'd look like and he'd give me the cash. 646 00:30:47,479 --> 00:30:48,776 And did you go there? 647 00:30:49,047 --> 00:30:50,047 Yeah. 648 00:30:50,115 --> 00:30:52,584 Do you see the man you met that day in the courtroom? 649 00:30:52,851 --> 00:30:53,851 Yeah. 650 00:30:54,319 --> 00:30:56,219 Him. The defendant. 651 00:30:56,621 --> 00:30:59,249 Did Mr. Speicher say anything to you at that time? 652 00:30:59,791 --> 00:31:03,193 To make sure I tell Jeff that the job needs to be done on Tuesday 653 00:31:03,362 --> 00:31:06,059 at 9:30 or else he wouldn't get the rest of the money. 654 00:31:07,299 --> 00:31:09,461 He set up my boyfriend to be killed! 655 00:31:12,971 --> 00:31:17,408 A group of men from our congregation meet every Tuesday morning at 8:45 656 00:31:17,476 --> 00:31:18,807 for Talmudic study. 657 00:31:19,411 --> 00:31:21,778 Barry Speicher was one of the group. 658 00:31:21,913 --> 00:31:24,473 How long do these sessions last, Rabbi Geller? 659 00:31:25,050 --> 00:31:26,050 An hour. 660 00:31:26,218 --> 00:31:30,883 So Barry Speicher would leave every Tuesday at 9:45? 661 00:31:31,089 --> 00:31:32,682 Usually. But this morning, 662 00:31:33,058 --> 00:31:36,187 he had a call on his mobile phone, at 9:30. 663 00:31:36,261 --> 00:31:39,231 He said it was an emergency, and he had to leave. 664 00:31:41,233 --> 00:31:42,598 People's D. 665 00:31:43,668 --> 00:31:45,659 Do you recognize this book, Rabbi? 666 00:31:45,937 --> 00:31:48,031 Yes, that was Barry's Chumash. 667 00:31:48,340 --> 00:31:49,830 He kept it in the sanctuary. 668 00:31:50,075 --> 00:31:52,203 Are you aware of the history of this book? 669 00:31:52,277 --> 00:31:54,939 Yes, it belonged to Barry's father, Daniel, 670 00:31:55,614 --> 00:31:59,016 who was also a member of the congregation before he passed away. 671 00:31:59,284 --> 00:32:01,514 And how did his father come by this book? 672 00:32:06,258 --> 00:32:10,195 You traveled with Daniel Speicher to Poland to retrieve this book, didn't you? 673 00:32:11,930 --> 00:32:16,094 I traveled with Daniel to Poland in 1978, yes. 674 00:32:17,369 --> 00:32:20,270 Could you please elaborate, Rabbi? 675 00:32:21,206 --> 00:32:24,801 We drove to a village near Warsaw 676 00:32:25,777 --> 00:32:28,109 called, uh, Glogowek. 677 00:32:29,114 --> 00:32:31,583 Daniel had passed through there in 1943 678 00:32:31,650 --> 00:32:33,744 as he was running away from the Nazis. 679 00:32:34,252 --> 00:32:36,949 We went to find where he hid the Chumash. 680 00:32:37,589 --> 00:32:39,182 Daniel had wrapped it in canvas, 681 00:32:39,257 --> 00:32:41,658 so he was very sure that it would still be there. 682 00:32:43,695 --> 00:32:45,663 But when we drove down that road, 683 00:32:46,765 --> 00:32:49,564 the farm was gone. It was a tire factory. 684 00:32:56,308 --> 00:32:58,640 Why didn't you ever mention this before, Rabbi? 685 00:33:00,612 --> 00:33:04,173 I've wrestled with this since the Chumash was destroyed. 686 00:33:04,716 --> 00:33:06,650 I know how hard it's going to be. 687 00:33:07,085 --> 00:33:08,678 But with everything that's happened, 688 00:33:08,954 --> 00:33:12,151 I think it's finally time for the congregation to know the truth. 689 00:33:14,125 --> 00:33:16,526 So where did this book come from? 690 00:33:19,397 --> 00:33:23,766 It was purchased in a bookshop in Warsaw before Daniel and I left Poland. 691 00:33:33,678 --> 00:33:36,807 No one knew about this till now, not even his own family. 692 00:33:37,315 --> 00:33:40,114 Why did you go along with this deception? 693 00:33:42,888 --> 00:33:45,220 How do I explain this to you, Mr. McCoy? 694 00:33:46,691 --> 00:33:50,252 The bible is full of stories that may be apocryphal. 695 00:33:50,962 --> 00:33:53,897 Do we believe that Methuselah lived 900 years? 696 00:33:54,199 --> 00:33:56,099 Or that Moses parted the Red Sea? 697 00:33:57,202 --> 00:34:01,366 Their truth is in the inspiration that we gather from them. 698 00:34:01,940 --> 00:34:05,672 And this particular book inspired a lot of people. 699 00:34:06,411 --> 00:34:07,901 Even if it isn't the same book, 700 00:34:07,979 --> 00:34:10,778 it's just a symbol of our survival. 701 00:34:11,683 --> 00:34:13,447 And I don't see what's wrong with that. 702 00:34:33,638 --> 00:34:35,572 Big surprise in there, any second thoughts, Jack? 703 00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:36,698 None. 704 00:34:36,775 --> 00:34:39,020 Your client was acting under the assumption the book was genuine. 705 00:34:39,044 --> 00:34:41,308 Look what this religious stuff does to people. 706 00:34:42,113 --> 00:34:44,514 Wasn't it enough that my uncle survived? 707 00:34:44,583 --> 00:34:46,950 Why'd he have to come home with a fake book? 708 00:34:47,085 --> 00:34:50,419 I don't know, Mr. Speicher, but none of it justifies what you did. 709 00:34:54,659 --> 00:34:57,526 As I was leaving the synagogue that morning, 710 00:34:57,596 --> 00:35:01,294 I saw the torn pages of a Chumash on the floor. 711 00:35:02,267 --> 00:35:04,133 Then I heard pages ripping, 712 00:35:05,036 --> 00:35:08,597 then I saw a man tearing apart my father's book. 713 00:35:09,808 --> 00:35:10,900 What did you do? 714 00:35:10,976 --> 00:35:12,910 I screamed at him, "What are you doing?" 715 00:35:13,078 --> 00:35:15,445 He ran toward the door with the book in his hands, 716 00:35:15,513 --> 00:35:19,245 I picked up a... Umbrella stand and went after him. 717 00:35:19,784 --> 00:35:21,411 What then, Mr. Speicher? 718 00:35:21,620 --> 00:35:25,113 He got outside, and I started swinging at him. 719 00:35:25,190 --> 00:35:28,990 I hit him several times and he fell to the ground. 720 00:35:29,694 --> 00:35:31,059 Which is where you left him? 721 00:35:31,129 --> 00:35:33,120 Lying on the book. I... 722 00:35:33,932 --> 00:35:36,629 Took the umbrella stand and put it back in the coatroom. 723 00:35:38,069 --> 00:35:39,537 And I got in a cab. 724 00:35:39,604 --> 00:35:41,572 Without telling anybody or getting help? 725 00:35:41,873 --> 00:35:44,934 I was too angry and scared to think straight. 726 00:35:45,610 --> 00:35:48,910 Did your cousin Eric know how much this book meant to you? 727 00:35:53,985 --> 00:35:54,985 Mr. Speicher? 728 00:36:06,231 --> 00:36:08,427 I killed Jeffrey Kilgore, 729 00:36:08,667 --> 00:36:11,693 not Eric, I did. I'm going to prison for it. 730 00:36:11,803 --> 00:36:13,999 This trial shouldn't be happening. 731 00:36:17,676 --> 00:36:19,872 At the time of this incident, 732 00:36:20,045 --> 00:36:22,844 how was your business relationship with your cousin? 733 00:36:23,748 --> 00:36:26,217 It was fine, really, not bad at all. 734 00:36:26,284 --> 00:36:28,548 Weren't you having a heated dispute 735 00:36:28,787 --> 00:36:31,449 about the building which housed the Beth Tefiloh synagogue? 736 00:36:31,523 --> 00:36:33,116 Objection, leading. 737 00:36:33,324 --> 00:36:34,655 Sustained. 738 00:36:34,759 --> 00:36:36,989 Did Eric ever threaten you because of this? 739 00:36:37,062 --> 00:36:39,087 Objection! No, he never did. 740 00:36:42,867 --> 00:36:45,029 Could we have a 30-minute recess, Your Honor? 741 00:36:45,203 --> 00:36:48,195 Take an hour, Mr. McCoy, I think you're going to need it. 742 00:36:59,350 --> 00:37:01,785 What's going on, Mr. Speicher? You're committing perjury! 743 00:37:01,853 --> 00:37:03,981 You're trying to put Eric in jail, 744 00:37:04,122 --> 00:37:05,453 I'm the one who did this. 745 00:37:05,523 --> 00:37:07,651 You know perfectly well he set everything in motion. 746 00:37:07,726 --> 00:37:09,216 You've blamed him yourself! 747 00:37:09,694 --> 00:37:11,958 Well, I don't anymore. Not now. 748 00:37:12,230 --> 00:37:13,925 Because the book isn't real? 749 00:37:17,335 --> 00:37:19,326 Because my father lied to me. 750 00:37:19,537 --> 00:37:22,165 Your cousin didn't know that when he hired Kilgore. 751 00:37:22,674 --> 00:37:25,803 He used your religious faith as a weapon against you! 752 00:37:25,977 --> 00:37:28,241 Ha, well, I'll say one thing about Eric, 753 00:37:28,546 --> 00:37:30,605 he was smart enough to put his faith into something 754 00:37:30,682 --> 00:37:32,707 that he could get his hands on. 755 00:37:33,118 --> 00:37:35,052 You're better than that, Mr. Speicher! 756 00:37:35,386 --> 00:37:36,854 No, I'm not. 757 00:37:37,222 --> 00:37:39,919 I wouldn't sell the building to teach him a lesson. 758 00:37:39,991 --> 00:37:44,519 We're exactly alike, we ripped each other's throats out over a lie. 759 00:37:52,437 --> 00:37:54,906 I killed a man. For what? 760 00:37:57,442 --> 00:38:00,639 Now, see, I just can't go through with this now. 761 00:38:01,112 --> 00:38:03,638 It isn't your decision, Mr. Speicher. 762 00:38:03,815 --> 00:38:08,981 A man was murdered, and everyone who was involved has to be held responsible. 763 00:38:09,621 --> 00:38:10,884 But it's too late. 764 00:38:11,890 --> 00:38:15,451 The people who are really responsible are all dead. 765 00:38:23,401 --> 00:38:24,401 Can I go now? 766 00:38:38,583 --> 00:38:41,382 Without Barry Speicher's testimony, you can't prove motive. 767 00:38:41,452 --> 00:38:43,716 What little case you had jumped the paddock fence. 768 00:38:43,855 --> 00:38:45,516 I still have enough to go to a jury. 769 00:38:45,957 --> 00:38:49,222 Well, I'd dismiss the manslaughter count, salvage a burglary conviction. 770 00:38:49,460 --> 00:38:53,021 And forget that Eric Speicher masterminded the events which led to a man's death? 771 00:38:53,097 --> 00:38:54,531 It was a reach from the outset. 772 00:38:54,766 --> 00:38:56,564 One supported by the law. 773 00:38:57,068 --> 00:38:59,230 There are other concerns besides the law. 774 00:38:59,304 --> 00:39:00,328 Politics? 775 00:39:00,638 --> 00:39:02,197 Credibility with a jury. 776 00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:06,570 Which reminds me, I intend to file perjury charges against Barry Speicher. 777 00:39:06,644 --> 00:39:07,839 No, you won't. 778 00:39:08,012 --> 00:39:10,777 We're not going to prolong this battle royal with the Speichers. 779 00:39:11,082 --> 00:39:12,345 This isn't a vendetta, Arthur. 780 00:39:12,417 --> 00:39:15,148 We're lucky that the only casualty here was an accomplice! 781 00:39:15,220 --> 00:39:16,949 Well, sometimes criminals get lucky. 782 00:39:17,255 --> 00:39:19,690 And we don't charge them with what almost happened. 783 00:39:19,891 --> 00:39:22,223 And when the next provocateur desecrates a mosque... 784 00:39:22,293 --> 00:39:24,819 To make a political statement or insult a family member? 785 00:39:24,896 --> 00:39:27,866 It doesn't matter why you yell fire in a crowded theater. 786 00:39:27,932 --> 00:39:30,958 In this day and age, you can't use religion as a provocation! 787 00:39:31,236 --> 00:39:34,228 This is exactly the kind of situation where you need to send a message. 788 00:39:34,472 --> 00:39:37,339 Not everything fits your little orthodoxy, Jack. 789 00:39:37,475 --> 00:39:39,034 Interesting choice of words. 790 00:39:39,110 --> 00:39:41,670 You're practicing your own form of fundamentalism! 791 00:39:42,614 --> 00:39:44,358 Now, I gave you some lead, it's time to reel it in. 792 00:39:44,382 --> 00:39:45,382 Arthur! 793 00:39:45,450 --> 00:39:48,545 Or do I have to tear up a copy of McKinney's to make my point? 794 00:39:53,758 --> 00:39:54,850 Your Honor, 795 00:39:54,959 --> 00:39:58,122 due to the recantation of crucial facts by this witness, 796 00:39:58,796 --> 00:40:00,992 I move to withdraw his previous testimony 797 00:40:01,065 --> 00:40:02,505 and have it stricken from the record. 798 00:40:03,534 --> 00:40:05,593 Is that true, Mr. Speicher? 799 00:40:06,504 --> 00:40:07,504 Yes. 800 00:40:07,572 --> 00:40:10,200 I take it you won't oppose this, Ms. Quaid? 801 00:40:10,808 --> 00:40:11,866 Of course not. 802 00:40:12,110 --> 00:40:13,373 Motion's granted. 803 00:40:13,611 --> 00:40:16,171 But we will proceed to verdict with the burglary charge. 804 00:40:27,692 --> 00:40:29,922 Ladies and gentlemen, have you reached a verdict? 805 00:40:30,561 --> 00:40:32,325 We have, Your Honor. 806 00:40:39,170 --> 00:40:40,763 Please rise, Mr. Speicher. 807 00:40:43,508 --> 00:40:46,637 On count of burglary in the third degree, how do you find? 808 00:40:46,778 --> 00:40:49,873 We find the defendant, Eric Speicher, guilty. 809 00:40:53,952 --> 00:40:56,148 Can I have one second? 810 00:40:58,756 --> 00:40:59,756 I'm sorry. 811 00:41:18,309 --> 00:41:20,539 With the hate enhancement on his burglary conviction, 812 00:41:20,611 --> 00:41:23,205 Eric Speicher's facing the same time as his cousin. 813 00:41:23,781 --> 00:41:25,772 I suppose there's some rough justice in that. 814 00:41:26,150 --> 00:41:27,515 Very rough. 815 00:41:27,819 --> 00:41:31,346 They're asking the judge to send them to the same correctional facility. 816 00:41:31,956 --> 00:41:33,549 Talk about family values. 817 00:41:33,758 --> 00:41:37,160 It took a shredded bible and a homicide to bring this bunch together. 818 00:41:37,261 --> 00:41:38,592 And a lie. 819 00:41:38,642 --> 00:41:43,192 Repair and Synchronization by Easy Subtitles Synchronizer 1.0.0.0 67370

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