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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:22,684 --> 00:00:26,684 timings and adaptation: cyanojen from: www.titlovi.com 2 00:00:29,684 --> 00:00:34,037 Uh, we don't get TV in this house, um, we all have computers. 3 00:00:34,220 --> 00:00:38,617 My daughter and my son are three and two and they each have their own computers, 4 00:00:38,642 --> 00:00:41,575 and they're lined up next to mommy's computers, and, 5 00:00:41,601 --> 00:00:44,312 um, my little girl is really really super smart. 6 00:00:45,013 --> 00:00:47,109 She can use a computer really well, 7 00:00:47,309 --> 00:00:49,995 she surfs around this, online and she uses photoshop 8 00:00:50,011 --> 00:00:52,468 she uses word, I mean she's only three years old 9 00:00:52,493 --> 00:00:54,557 and she can read and write and use a computer 10 00:00:54,582 --> 00:00:56,304 just like an adult, she's pretty amazing. 11 00:00:56,329 --> 00:00:57,944 I didn't plan to be a single mom. 12 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:00,090 I didn't plan to be stuck in the middle of the desert 13 00:01:00,143 --> 00:01:01,461 where I don't know anybody, 14 00:01:01,552 --> 00:01:03,807 it's just kind of all been thrown for a loop. 15 00:01:07,038 --> 00:01:08,928 So at that point I said we gotta arrest him, 16 00:01:08,953 --> 00:01:11,921 so we arrested him, and he cried like a baby, didn't he. 17 00:01:11,946 --> 00:01:14,463 "I can't go back to jail! Ahhhhhhhh!" 18 00:01:14,841 --> 00:01:16,591 and he just cried like a baby. I said okay. 19 00:01:16,592 --> 00:01:18,980 I gave him the opportunity to make very small 20 00:01:19,121 --> 00:01:21,606 reasonable payments, he didn't make any of the payments, 21 00:01:21,702 --> 00:01:25,196 I warned him if he didn't make the payments I was gonna come and take his grandma's car. 22 00:01:25,259 --> 00:01:28,451 That's what he forced us to do, and the day that I took this car 23 00:01:28,453 --> 00:01:31,915 his little 87-year-old grandma or mother was out there with her walker 24 00:01:31,939 --> 00:01:33,589 watching us take her car. 25 00:01:33,625 --> 00:01:36,725 And it was one of the hardest things I've ever had to do. 26 00:01:36,750 --> 00:01:38,772 But you know what? Business is business. 27 00:01:40,665 --> 00:01:44,241 So. Now the clay is pretty much conditioned, it's ready to be worked with. 28 00:01:44,889 --> 00:01:50,225 We're gonna give ourselves, a base, and then uh, he will be put into action. 29 00:01:50,397 --> 00:01:53,378 I would see if he can find a girlfriend. 30 00:01:53,772 --> 00:01:56,729 Since he's gone throughout this radical surgical procedure, 31 00:01:56,873 --> 00:01:58,908 to have his penis re-installed. 32 00:01:58,985 --> 00:02:03,748 Imagine how happy he is when he wakes up and finds out, he's got a dick again. 33 00:02:04,148 --> 00:02:07,919 Wow, you know that's a, that's a big day in the coyote's life. Huh?! 34 00:02:09,262 --> 00:02:12,907 And I knew that, getting this opportunity to be on a mainstream show, 35 00:02:12,909 --> 00:02:15,471 I knew my whole life, like, once I got out to LA, 36 00:02:15,494 --> 00:02:19,838 once I could get on a reality show, and get the opportunity to show people, 37 00:02:19,982 --> 00:02:22,332 like, about me, that that would be the big thing 38 00:02:22,353 --> 00:02:25,573 I need to move forward mainstream. I just need that one opportunity to get there. 39 00:02:25,574 --> 00:02:29,473 No! What happens is it like, it like, like, you're trying to put it in it like bends. 40 00:02:29,475 --> 00:02:32,543 And you, it's better if it's like a solid one. -That's reality right there. 41 00:02:32,545 --> 00:02:38,222 No, I'm not kidding. But, like, one like this, then it doesn't, it goes faster. 42 00:02:40,060 --> 00:02:44,295 And he comes from, of course the uh, story of the old testament, the story of Josean. 43 00:02:45,336 --> 00:02:47,927 Um, and this is kind of a modern day adaptation of that. 44 00:02:48,006 --> 00:02:50,556 Currently, (unintelligible conversation) That is amazing, 45 00:02:50,979 --> 00:02:53,601 that is amazing and God bless you and take care. 46 00:02:54,629 --> 00:02:58,331 I'm definitely still growing spiritually. I don't think you can ever quit growing. 47 00:02:58,522 --> 00:03:05,334 There's always room to get closer to God and things to learn about him and... 48 00:03:05,825 --> 00:03:09,416 ways to change your life and to improve. 49 00:03:09,488 --> 00:03:12,011 It is a mess. - You're a mess. 50 00:03:12,208 --> 00:03:15,005 It's a mess. But that's the way gnocchies are. 51 00:03:15,069 --> 00:03:16,854 A little bit of a mess. 52 00:03:16,869 --> 00:03:19,834 It's like, a guy told me once, when he was painting. 53 00:03:19,878 --> 00:03:22,242 Is that how you, how it was more basic and then he went in. 54 00:03:22,289 --> 00:03:24,672 Well it wasn't more basic, it was just a painting I did 55 00:03:24,758 --> 00:03:27,314 and then one day I took it out and I just started painting 56 00:03:27,316 --> 00:03:30,362 all this other stuff in there and just went in with this reds and... 57 00:03:30,439 --> 00:03:32,642 I don't, I don't remember what it looked like before, 58 00:03:32,695 --> 00:03:35,903 I can't remember, I just, very hard to keep a band together and I only wanna play 59 00:03:35,905 --> 00:03:38,568 with certain guys that I really love playing with. 60 00:03:38,589 --> 00:03:41,079 Cause it all comes together, it's like summer theatre you know. 61 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:44,700 Wow! I got a barn, and I got to, I got to, 62 00:03:44,917 --> 00:03:48,754 I got the instruments, we'll put our own show on! You know what I mean. 63 00:03:48,761 --> 00:03:50,462 It all still has that, that element. 64 00:03:50,932 --> 00:03:56,243 This is uh, one of the Chinatown series. From my home town. After the mill closed. 65 00:03:56,243 --> 00:03:59,676 I mean, pretty much closed. 66 00:04:00,003 --> 00:04:02,443 What'd you get last year, for your birthday, from Aunt Lynny? 67 00:04:02,445 --> 00:04:05,569 I think a Power Ranger suit. -You got what? No, you didn't! 68 00:04:05,571 --> 00:04:08,086 You didn't get a Power Ranger suit that was for Halloween. 69 00:04:08,088 --> 00:04:11,175 You got an electric guitar... A 'lectric guitar... 70 00:04:11,177 --> 00:04:13,839 A REAL electric guitar! 71 00:04:14,178 --> 00:04:17,155 Why? Because you told aunt Lynny you wanted to grow up to be a rockstar. 72 00:04:17,293 --> 00:04:21,790 You know what, I just see a beautiful girl and I just wanna hug her! 73 00:04:22,628 --> 00:04:24,697 Well, I love this one right here, so I telling you. 74 00:04:25,037 --> 00:04:29,685 I currently reach out to women and men in the sex industry and the porn industry 75 00:04:29,795 --> 00:04:33,243 and I absolutely love pulling them out of the pit 76 00:04:33,653 --> 00:04:35,533 the porn industry pit. 77 00:04:35,784 --> 00:04:41,595 It's 1800 square feet and, the guest house is around 600 square feet. 78 00:04:42,064 --> 00:04:44,534 That little garage area, I don't know. 79 00:04:44,536 --> 00:04:49,224 Um, it took me about a year to really get serious about studying, 80 00:04:49,486 --> 00:04:55,618 and, it took me three times to pass the test, but I did it and,... 81 00:04:57,397 --> 00:04:59,271 here I am. 82 00:04:59,885 --> 00:05:02,510 Got into real-estate, I've been in it for five years. 83 00:05:04,242 --> 00:05:07,904 Over here. -Yup. - Dark and mild. 84 00:05:08,083 --> 00:05:10,326 No, he likes the dark heavy. Dark heavy. 85 00:05:10,392 --> 00:05:13,993 When I'm at home, I run around with no makeup on, 86 00:05:14,579 --> 00:05:19,385 a pair of sweatpants, bare foot, a t-shirt, and I'm usually out in the yard digging. 87 00:05:19,681 --> 00:05:22,346 Because I like to plant things, I like to grow things. 88 00:05:22,370 --> 00:05:24,184 Or decorating my house. 89 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:28,427 I like to do crafty things, like, you know, I don't, 90 00:05:28,453 --> 00:05:31,756 I know I don't seem like the domestic goddess! 91 00:05:31,758 --> 00:05:35,034 But I, I, I like to make things for the house 92 00:05:35,036 --> 00:05:39,080 and I love to cook. And, I'm a very good cook. 93 00:05:39,082 --> 00:05:46,090 I had a little bit, of, a, some bad terrible terrible news, uh, this April. 94 00:05:46,306 --> 00:05:50,912 Um, I was diagnosed with uh, stage three melanoma cancer. 95 00:05:51,119 --> 00:05:55,918 So for the past four or five months I've been dealing with that and on chemo. 96 00:05:55,944 --> 00:05:58,609 They recommended complete dissection of the lymph-nodes, 97 00:05:59,103 --> 00:06:04,483 and then to be on heavy-dose interferon, which would be uh, intravenous, 98 00:06:04,485 --> 00:06:08,682 which I would get five times a week, for the first month, and then after that, 99 00:06:08,888 --> 00:06:14,491 three times a week, for eleven months, for the rest of the year. 100 00:06:15,213 --> 00:06:18,332 And um, it's, it's been tough. 101 00:06:18,917 --> 00:06:22,784 It's actually great here, cause, how many porno stars live here? I know... 102 00:06:23,026 --> 00:06:25,803 There's some more uh, there's some more coming in uh, Sunset, 103 00:06:25,892 --> 00:06:29,583 uh, Houston, uh, Taylor Saint-Claire just moved here. 104 00:06:29,683 --> 00:06:32,331 What, whatever happened to uh, she was really hot, but I loved her. 105 00:06:32,345 --> 00:06:35,728 What happened to that um... oh godammit, I don't know their names 106 00:06:35,875 --> 00:06:38,928 I'm really bad with this, um... You remember their tits. Yeah. 107 00:06:38,942 --> 00:06:41,969 Oh god, she was um, oh that doesn't make any difference. 108 00:06:42,051 --> 00:06:44,335 She was living here for a long time she was so hot. 109 00:06:44,706 --> 00:06:46,103 (unintelligible conversation) 110 00:06:47,232 --> 00:06:50,010 Oh yeah, she just moved outta town, yeah, she just moved outta town. 111 00:06:50,052 --> 00:06:52,596 And uh, that's the only thing I missed out on in life. 112 00:06:52,598 --> 00:06:54,559 I've done, pretty much everything I wanted. 113 00:06:54,622 --> 00:06:57,057 I did wanna have kids, didn't have the opportunity 114 00:06:57,059 --> 00:07:01,519 to meet the right woman the right time, so I do kinda miss out on that, 115 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:05,968 but uh, nobody gets everything there's other guys 116 00:07:06,041 --> 00:07:08,366 that have great kids and they love every minute of it 117 00:07:08,368 --> 00:07:10,396 they kinda wish they were me, fantasy wise, 118 00:07:10,398 --> 00:07:14,216 but um, nobody gets everything. 119 00:07:14,217 --> 00:07:22,106 AFTER PORN ENDS 120 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:26,130 I started modeling in ninth grade. 121 00:07:26,132 --> 00:07:29,159 My mom put me through modeling school, I graduated from modeling school, 122 00:07:29,161 --> 00:07:35,644 started doing beauty pageants, and model searches, and bikini contests. 123 00:07:35,844 --> 00:07:42,218 So, I was exposed, to, not so much the adult industry 124 00:07:42,220 --> 00:07:45,669 but just knowing that I could make money with my body. 125 00:07:45,781 --> 00:07:47,795 I had a roommate at the time, 126 00:07:47,940 --> 00:07:52,620 um, that was a dancer, and she knew an agent, his name was Jim Salf. 127 00:07:52,622 --> 00:07:55,924 He said, "Hey, there's a producer that saw your picture 128 00:07:55,926 --> 00:07:59,399 and he'd like you to come do a movie how would you like to do a movie?" 129 00:07:59,500 --> 00:08:03,114 And I said, uh, well, I've never done a movie before 130 00:08:03,116 --> 00:08:05,414 but sure, I could do it, no problem. 131 00:08:05,416 --> 00:08:08,099 I went down and I had braids like Bo Derek 132 00:08:08,125 --> 00:08:10,470 at the time and, and did my first scene. 133 00:08:10,495 --> 00:08:14,745 It was a three-way. I had never even, been with a woman, 134 00:08:15,151 --> 00:08:19,344 I didn't know what to do with a woman, I had, no idea what I was doing. 135 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:21,963 But the minute those lights hit me, 136 00:08:22,006 --> 00:08:24,373 I swear that was where I was supposed to be. 137 00:08:24,435 --> 00:08:26,785 Everyone said do it, do it, do it. 138 00:08:26,985 --> 00:08:30,318 And the more you do the more money you can make dancing on the dance circuit, 139 00:08:30,358 --> 00:08:35,262 the more magazines you can do, the more you're exposed, you can, 140 00:08:35,578 --> 00:08:39,594 I mean gosh, I have a sex toy line, now we wanna do an action figure of you. 141 00:08:40,220 --> 00:08:43,824 Okay! I mean, all of it was just like, cool! 142 00:08:43,992 --> 00:08:46,459 You know, sign me up! Sure! 143 00:08:46,542 --> 00:08:49,756 I was just having a blast, I mean, there were fans 144 00:08:50,227 --> 00:08:54,528 lined up for miles and miles and miles that flew, 145 00:08:54,533 --> 00:08:57,354 I mean some people came from Poland and Berlin, 146 00:08:57,389 --> 00:09:00,140 and come to think of it when I went to Poland, 147 00:09:00,142 --> 00:09:03,061 to um, sign autographs and whatever, 148 00:09:03,063 --> 00:09:05,788 I mean, when I got off the plane I needed a body guard! 149 00:09:05,952 --> 00:09:12,421 I mean, for a porn star to be that big, around the world, 150 00:09:12,433 --> 00:09:14,642 I mean, it was un-believable, I mean felt like a... 151 00:09:14,644 --> 00:09:16,975 I was a true super star! 152 00:09:17,024 --> 00:09:19,854 I mean people, were knocking each other down. 153 00:09:19,896 --> 00:09:23,654 Heeeere's Houston!!!! 154 00:09:27,997 --> 00:09:32,208 Over the Dali Lama in the newspaper, 155 00:09:32,208 --> 00:09:33,779 I was the headliner. I mean, that's unbelievable. 156 00:09:33,858 --> 00:09:38,455 I was still under contract, I was with Metro Productions 157 00:09:38,498 --> 00:09:41,237 for a few years, and they're the ones that also produced 158 00:09:41,399 --> 00:09:44,126 uh, the Houston 500, the world's biggest gang-bang. 159 00:09:44,353 --> 00:09:48,376 Um, at that point when I first signed with Metro, 160 00:09:48,378 --> 00:09:52,714 it was already known going in that I was gonna takeover, 161 00:09:53,447 --> 00:09:57,060 uh, Jasmine Saint-Clair's title and do this gang-bang. 162 00:09:57,496 --> 00:10:00,383 So, going into my contract with Metro, 163 00:10:00,474 --> 00:10:03,066 I already knew that I was gonna be doing that, 164 00:10:03,068 --> 00:10:06,758 so, I wasn't, I wasn't looking for things to, 165 00:10:07,050 --> 00:10:10,752 oh I've gotta be more crazy and wild, 166 00:10:10,754 --> 00:10:13,887 you know honestly it just all came to me naturally. 167 00:10:13,986 --> 00:10:16,282 Like, I mean, I had a labiaplasty, 168 00:10:16,475 --> 00:10:19,081 and that was before a lot of women even knew 169 00:10:19,181 --> 00:10:24,364 that they can get their labia trimmed if you have larger labia lips and you know, 170 00:10:24,563 --> 00:10:27,846 when I did that it was like, oh, it was just a no brainer 171 00:10:28,098 --> 00:10:32,272 I'm gonna encase that in lucite and auction it. The trimmings. 172 00:10:32,466 --> 00:10:37,837 I mean, it's just things just came to me, I was just a publicity whore. 173 00:10:38,165 --> 00:10:39,679 I was good at it. 174 00:10:39,681 --> 00:10:42,851 I had invested my money, uh, I bought a home, 175 00:10:43,123 --> 00:10:46,867 as well as, um, put a lot of money in mutual funds, 176 00:10:46,869 --> 00:10:50,732 and many years ago when the stock market went kaput, 177 00:10:50,916 --> 00:10:55,889 I lost, like, almost all my savings. And that hurt me. 178 00:10:56,055 --> 00:10:59,052 Um, but I did still have my house that I owned in LA, 179 00:10:59,252 --> 00:11:02,330 um, and then when things got rough of course I sold it, 180 00:11:02,434 --> 00:11:05,591 not for financial reasons but when I wanted to get out of the industry. 181 00:11:06,583 --> 00:11:11,045 I'm professor of communications studies and psychology at UCLA. 182 00:11:11,595 --> 00:11:17,059 I study a variety of topics, but one of the major areas 183 00:11:17,239 --> 00:11:19,619 that I study is pornography. 184 00:11:19,713 --> 00:11:23,654 I'm Faith, and since 1984 I've done about 600 films. 185 00:11:23,702 --> 00:11:25,806 About a thousand scenes, give or take. 186 00:11:26,121 --> 00:11:29,587 Um, I've won several dozen awards for acting 187 00:11:29,799 --> 00:11:33,170 in sex performances and fan favorite and this and that. 188 00:11:33,647 --> 00:11:36,726 I think it might be up, this year for best non-sex role 189 00:11:36,924 --> 00:11:40,287 I've also moved into the occasional character part 190 00:11:40,289 --> 00:11:42,234 that doesn't involve having sex. 191 00:11:42,442 --> 00:11:44,899 I write about the sex industry pretty much 192 00:11:45,113 --> 00:11:50,325 from the fall of 1995 until the fall of 2007. 193 00:11:50,621 --> 00:11:53,349 "The History of X: One Hundred Years of Sex in Film" 194 00:11:53,558 --> 00:11:54,794 is the name of my first book. 195 00:11:54,864 --> 00:11:56,801 I've been in the adult entertainment industry 196 00:11:56,879 --> 00:12:00,450 for basically 35-36 years, in every capacity. 197 00:12:00,512 --> 00:12:03,286 I started as a writer, became an actor, 198 00:12:03,288 --> 00:12:07,965 director, agent, and now I'm sorta the, papa bear 199 00:12:07,967 --> 00:12:10,757 to the adult entertainment industry, protecting adult welfare, 200 00:12:10,759 --> 00:12:14,686 which I run, and, watch over the overaged juvenile delinquents 201 00:12:14,688 --> 00:12:16,728 and what I refer to as the playpen of the damned, 202 00:12:16,771 --> 00:12:18,421 which is the X-rated industry. 203 00:12:18,621 --> 00:12:21,159 What we give them in the adult entertainment industry 204 00:12:21,161 --> 00:12:25,852 for a brief shiny moment is immortality, validation, and credibility. 205 00:12:25,854 --> 00:12:30,430 Every one of us, no matter how insignificant we may think we are, 206 00:12:30,746 --> 00:12:33,944 wants to be recognized at one time or another in our lives, 207 00:12:33,946 --> 00:12:36,725 and when you went to those conventions they lined up at your booth 208 00:12:36,925 --> 00:12:40,136 like they were getting signatures from professional athletes. 209 00:12:40,223 --> 00:12:44,594 My parents divorced. My dad took us far away from our mother, 210 00:12:44,974 --> 00:12:47,601 and ran away with us. He became an alcoholic. 211 00:12:47,663 --> 00:12:52,618 Then I moved in with my mom and the family relationship changed, um, 212 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:58,905 I felt kind of lost. I worked a regular job, um, in an office, 213 00:12:58,907 --> 00:13:03,441 for five years, but while I was doing those things I also found um, 214 00:13:03,853 --> 00:13:08,612 a modeling website and I put my pictures on the website, 215 00:13:08,614 --> 00:13:13,816 and then um, you know, I was still working in the office but people were emailing me 216 00:13:13,891 --> 00:13:19,590 about doing shoots. And I thought it would be cool to do, 217 00:13:20,063 --> 00:13:23,744 like, bikini stuff, or, even though I never really even 218 00:13:23,903 --> 00:13:27,856 walked around in bikinis I thought it would be, kind of neat. 219 00:13:28,913 --> 00:13:33,251 So, eventually, I did take a job, um doing, 220 00:13:33,253 --> 00:13:37,267 um, you know they were only asking me to do nudes and eventually I just did it. 221 00:13:37,597 --> 00:13:40,674 I went to my first shoot, in like a hotel room, 222 00:13:41,061 --> 00:13:47,661 and um, it was just supposed to be topless, and it, was, it was really scary. 223 00:13:48,096 --> 00:13:49,803 Um... 224 00:13:51,501 --> 00:13:53,485 It was weird. 225 00:13:53,681 --> 00:13:56,752 Well ever since I, since I got into the business, 226 00:13:56,836 --> 00:14:00,748 I always got emails, that said that you, you don't look quite comfortable, 227 00:14:00,796 --> 00:14:07,393 and I think that it was the innocence, that, attracted my, a lot of my fans, 228 00:14:07,664 --> 00:14:10,425 is that I didn't look totally comfortable in anything I did, 229 00:14:10,455 --> 00:14:13,016 and even if I was speaking I didn't look totally comfortable 230 00:14:13,070 --> 00:14:17,253 and I never looked confident, I wasn't very verbal, I wasn't, you know, 231 00:14:17,306 --> 00:14:21,059 over the top with the noises or anything, um. 232 00:14:22,095 --> 00:14:26,756 I dunno, I just started feeling, really depressed about it. Honestly. 233 00:14:26,758 --> 00:14:34,421 And, then I hit rock bottom myself, emotionally, where I um, got really upset 234 00:14:34,521 --> 00:14:37,261 and I'd go in the bathroom and I threw a glass 235 00:14:37,343 --> 00:14:42,959 on the ground and then I um, just crying 236 00:14:43,330 --> 00:14:45,621 and fall to the ground and just started like, 237 00:14:45,623 --> 00:14:48,403 pounding my wrists into the glass, and blood was, 238 00:14:48,405 --> 00:14:50,486 just started going everywhere, and... 239 00:14:51,310 --> 00:14:53,963 I dunno, I just kinda lost that hope. 240 00:14:54,122 --> 00:14:57,932 I did have a stalker, um, he started off just sending me hate-mail. 241 00:14:58,128 --> 00:15:03,157 He's an atheist, so he was pretty much, putting down what I believe in 242 00:15:03,159 --> 00:15:07,963 and trying to get me to debate him. He, heh, became obsessed with me 243 00:15:07,965 --> 00:15:14,093 and developed like this, crush on me. And then I told him we would never date, 244 00:15:14,095 --> 00:15:18,010 I don't know you I don't know where you live, you're too young, blah blah blah. 245 00:15:18,210 --> 00:15:20,842 And um, he flipped out. 246 00:15:21,978 --> 00:15:25,996 The thing that pushed me to the edge was he said he was gonna, um, he wanted 247 00:15:25,998 --> 00:15:29,189 to bash my head into the concrete until my brains spilled out. 248 00:15:29,191 --> 00:15:32,029 And then kill my cat and stuff like that. 249 00:15:32,031 --> 00:15:37,716 A few fans had emailed me the last year or so and said they were praying for me 250 00:15:38,054 --> 00:15:40,143 and that they were not looking at porn anymore, 251 00:15:40,556 --> 00:15:42,583 and, you know, and then I had this other guy saying 252 00:15:42,585 --> 00:15:45,432 you need to put a warning on your website because kids can see this 253 00:15:45,482 --> 00:15:47,531 my fourteen-year-old son found this, and then... 254 00:15:47,533 --> 00:15:51,807 Just all kinds of people were like, sending me these emails, random emails and... 255 00:15:51,809 --> 00:15:56,557 You know it uh, and of course I would, I was always kind of sympathetic 256 00:15:56,715 --> 00:16:00,319 to whatever they said but, um, there was some, 257 00:16:00,321 --> 00:16:03,986 you know I was still kind of hardened too, at the same time, because I was like well, 258 00:16:03,988 --> 00:16:08,094 I can't do anything else, this is what I'm good at. This is all that, I know. 259 00:16:08,862 --> 00:16:14,095 And, I kind of believed it at the time. I didn't have anybody you know, 260 00:16:14,097 --> 00:16:19,045 saying, you're better than that. So, um... 261 00:16:19,596 --> 00:16:22,712 Some adult stars do "find god" and leave, 262 00:16:22,714 --> 00:16:24,770 but those are people who needed, 263 00:16:24,772 --> 00:16:28,093 who needed to be gone anyway, and did not have 264 00:16:28,095 --> 00:16:30,509 the personal strength to do it and so they do look outside 265 00:16:30,511 --> 00:16:32,217 for something to help them leave. 266 00:16:32,219 --> 00:16:35,358 Um, there are plenty of people in the business who really shouldn't be here, 267 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:38,747 because they have conflict about... if I was-, if I'd been raised 268 00:16:38,770 --> 00:16:42,517 to be ashamed of my body, and to feel bad about men 269 00:16:42,556 --> 00:16:44,447 and their and the horrible desires, 270 00:16:44,536 --> 00:16:48,046 but, did porn for other reasons eventually those two things are gonna co-, 271 00:16:48,724 --> 00:16:50,767 wheels are gonna come off the bus. 272 00:16:50,837 --> 00:16:52,924 I can only deny it so long, people try to deny, 273 00:16:52,926 --> 00:16:55,089 they stuff their feelings with, with drugs, 274 00:16:55,128 --> 00:16:57,602 and alcohol, or whatever it is they stuff their feelings with 275 00:16:57,604 --> 00:17:00,177 and after a six months, one year, five year, ten years, whatever 276 00:17:00,537 --> 00:17:03,018 it finally goes you know what? I can't do this anymore. 277 00:17:03,020 --> 00:17:06,427 Because for religion and especially western religion, especially Christianity 278 00:17:06,490 --> 00:17:10,029 says I love you, I forgive you, you can come home now. 279 00:17:10,766 --> 00:17:12,788 And I will not push you out. 280 00:17:12,790 --> 00:17:15,597 And so that is incredibly powerful and incredibly potent 281 00:17:15,599 --> 00:17:18,812 to have someone finally say I don't shame you. 282 00:17:19,287 --> 00:17:21,658 I love you. You're welcome here. 283 00:17:22,260 --> 00:17:23,962 Sign me up! 284 00:17:23,964 --> 00:17:26,961 When you're involved in this industry you lose your humanity. 285 00:17:26,963 --> 00:17:31,527 You're no longer treated as a human being by eighty percent of people out there. 286 00:17:31,586 --> 00:17:33,755 You're now, now scum. 287 00:17:33,757 --> 00:17:36,360 Like they maybe wanna, do certain things with you. 288 00:17:36,956 --> 00:17:38,768 But then, you're still scum. 289 00:17:38,770 --> 00:17:42,494 And, like if, they may be thrilled to have a roll in the sac with you 290 00:17:42,496 --> 00:17:45,627 but when they leave, when you leave they're gonna wanna burn the sheets. 291 00:17:46,557 --> 00:17:50,400 Uh, ah, I got into porn by accident. It wasn't something I planned on doing, 292 00:17:50,402 --> 00:17:55,037 uh, probably mighta been the, the least likely thing I thought I woulda done. 293 00:17:55,039 --> 00:17:58,820 I was singing in bands after I, a baseball thing didn't work out, 294 00:17:58,822 --> 00:18:02,603 uh, I knew I could sing so I started singing in rock bands. 295 00:18:03,202 --> 00:18:05,307 And of course like all struggling musicians you 296 00:18:05,333 --> 00:18:07,494 gotta make a little extra dough on the side. 297 00:18:07,903 --> 00:18:11,454 It actually, my, my first naked job I was a nude art model 298 00:18:11,456 --> 00:18:13,959 for like you know college art classes and stuff like that. 299 00:18:13,961 --> 00:18:16,275 And I was really kinda shy but not about my body 300 00:18:16,277 --> 00:18:18,849 just about talking I was kinda shy about talking. 301 00:18:18,851 --> 00:18:22,114 But yeah I'd get naked in front of people so I did that and a couple girls 302 00:18:22,116 --> 00:18:25,449 in one of the classes asked to take some pictures of me and they did and... 303 00:18:25,451 --> 00:18:28,229 They came out pretty good and they said can we send them to some magazines 304 00:18:28,231 --> 00:18:30,637 I said I don't care do what you want. 305 00:18:30,694 --> 00:18:33,248 And they sent'em out and and next thing I know I got a letter from Playgirl, 306 00:18:33,250 --> 00:18:36,162 and, but High Society said they like to do a boy/girl thing 307 00:18:36,164 --> 00:18:38,983 but I said alright. So it was the first thing I ever did. 308 00:18:38,985 --> 00:18:42,459 And they had a woman editor and at the end of the shoot she goes you know uh, 309 00:18:42,576 --> 00:18:44,856 I noticed you were taking care of business pretty good, 310 00:18:44,858 --> 00:18:48,765 did you ever think about doing a porn movie cause I got some connections. 311 00:18:48,767 --> 00:18:51,426 And I go, I never really thought about it, no. 312 00:18:51,428 --> 00:18:54,489 She goes well you know, I think, I can get you 250 bucks. 313 00:18:54,491 --> 00:18:58,653 Like, 250 bucks man! 1978 that was some good cash, 314 00:18:58,655 --> 00:19:00,265 that's what I was making a week! 315 00:19:00,780 --> 00:19:03,427 So I said uh, alright I'll try it, you know. 316 00:19:03,429 --> 00:19:07,670 So I did it and uh, guess I was good at it cause they kept calling me back. 317 00:19:07,672 --> 00:19:10,489 And uh, that's kinda how it got started. 318 00:19:10,491 --> 00:19:13,926 I, I used to say it's like borrowing somebody's body to masturbate with. 319 00:19:13,928 --> 00:19:15,827 Uh, excuse me, if you're not busy do you mind 320 00:19:15,829 --> 00:19:18,826 if I jerk off in your pussy with my dick? 321 00:19:19,180 --> 00:19:21,506 Uh, it's kinda like that, which it's not bad, 322 00:19:21,808 --> 00:19:23,947 I mean you know, better than real jerkin' off, but... 323 00:19:24,375 --> 00:19:27,625 When I first started producing up-and- comers I get this letter in the mail 324 00:19:27,627 --> 00:19:31,724 and I open it up, and I see this unbelievably, good-looking, 325 00:19:31,926 --> 00:19:36,604 very young looking blonde girl, with beautiful natural boobs, 326 00:19:37,419 --> 00:19:42,383 little baby face, and she wants to know if I can help her get in the porn biz. 327 00:19:43,154 --> 00:19:44,953 Girl's name was Jenna Jameson. 328 00:19:44,955 --> 00:19:46,690 I remember saying this I mean holy christ 329 00:19:46,692 --> 00:19:49,305 if I get this girl to shoot for me we're gonna sell some tapes. 330 00:19:49,307 --> 00:19:51,323 I said well if you don't wanna do guys you know 331 00:19:51,417 --> 00:19:54,717 I'll let you pick whatever girl you want if you wanna do that. And she liked girls. 332 00:19:54,750 --> 00:19:57,590 So she picked this girl that I happened to be working with 333 00:19:57,592 --> 00:19:59,931 that day who was doing her first movie, Kylie Ireland, 334 00:20:00,187 --> 00:20:02,425 so Kylie and Jenna were doing their thing together 335 00:20:02,427 --> 00:20:05,281 and uh, everything was going good, 336 00:20:05,406 --> 00:20:08,844 and they took a little break and while they were lying there I... 337 00:20:08,846 --> 00:20:10,615 I think I said something like, 338 00:20:10,617 --> 00:20:14,118 man Jenna that's a tasty looking pussy you got. 339 00:20:14,120 --> 00:20:17,937 And I believe she said well why don't you come in and taste it. 340 00:20:18,002 --> 00:20:19,422 I was... 341 00:20:19,582 --> 00:20:22,951 Okay, I was doing the camera but I handed it to my assistant, 342 00:20:23,317 --> 00:20:25,973 Bob hold onto this, start shooting. 343 00:20:26,535 --> 00:20:28,984 So I get in there and I start going down on her 344 00:20:28,986 --> 00:20:31,371 and she starts squealing that little squeal that she had 345 00:20:32,972 --> 00:20:35,225 and um, I'm guessing she's kinda liking it you know, 346 00:20:35,325 --> 00:20:37,527 and seemed like she was getting off and everything's good 347 00:20:37,529 --> 00:20:39,731 and I said man, I am so fuckin' horny now. 348 00:20:39,751 --> 00:20:42,881 I said would you guys mind maybe like, giving me a double blowjob or something? 349 00:20:42,883 --> 00:20:46,537 And they said sure, we can do that, and I'm like... Thank you, thank you! 350 00:20:46,978 --> 00:20:52,547 And they did and it went well and a week later she kinda called me back 351 00:20:52,549 --> 00:20:55,356 and said you know what you weren't so bad I think I could probably do 352 00:20:55,456 --> 00:20:59,381 a boy girl thing with you and the rest is kinda history after that. 353 00:20:59,865 --> 00:21:03,561 "It's a Daddy Thing" number three! Old man, can make a comeback! 354 00:21:03,725 --> 00:21:06,456 Yeah! Still there baby, no viagra yet! 355 00:21:07,260 --> 00:21:11,643 Um, and it, you know, it's cool you do your thing, 356 00:21:11,645 --> 00:21:13,791 you go home, you came, you relax you know but, 357 00:21:13,998 --> 00:21:16,526 I'm kind of an affectionate kinda guy, 358 00:21:16,528 --> 00:21:18,697 and so I kinda miss that part of it and that's why 359 00:21:18,756 --> 00:21:21,280 I still like having a relationship, when it happens, you know. 360 00:21:22,566 --> 00:21:25,650 And uh, you know for example eh, Tera Patrick man, 361 00:21:25,652 --> 00:21:28,935 not only was she incredible in bed but there was just, I just liked her. 362 00:21:28,937 --> 00:21:32,490 And, that that, sense of humor and the craziness, 363 00:21:32,492 --> 00:21:34,319 a little bit different, you know. 364 00:21:34,925 --> 00:21:38,437 So, I hadn't dated anybody in so long when I met her 365 00:21:38,439 --> 00:21:43,353 I forgot how to do it, and uh, I did ask her out to dinner twice, 366 00:21:43,355 --> 00:21:45,617 and we went out to dinner and we had a good time but 367 00:21:46,219 --> 00:21:50,789 I dropped her off at her place without asking her if I could, come in. 368 00:21:50,791 --> 00:21:54,919 And I don't know eh, I might have, she mighta thought I was weird. 369 00:21:54,921 --> 00:21:57,856 I already had sex with her a couple of times, on camera, 370 00:21:57,858 --> 00:22:01,825 and she mighta thought it was weird that I didn't wanna come up and finish the date, 371 00:22:01,827 --> 00:22:04,600 but I was kinda showing her that I wasn't just there for the sex, 372 00:22:05,529 --> 00:22:10,267 and, maybe it wasn't a good move cause you leave a beautiful woman like that 373 00:22:10,269 --> 00:22:12,554 alone for too long and somebody else is gonna come along 374 00:22:12,556 --> 00:22:15,741 and somebody else did come along and that was that. 375 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:18,575 She made it today, this is Tera Patrick. Hello. 376 00:22:18,577 --> 00:22:22,789 And uh, Tera is reasonably known in the business and hasn't even worked that often. 377 00:22:23,388 --> 00:22:24,990 Apparently. Um. 378 00:22:27,535 --> 00:22:31,450 I was just trying to pace myself right now. - One of my all time favorites. 379 00:22:37,269 --> 00:22:39,972 Most of the people who seek it out don't have 380 00:22:40,154 --> 00:22:44,859 means of making that kind of money by other means. 381 00:22:44,861 --> 00:22:49,016 I mean very few women say hmm, I'm going to become a surgeon 382 00:22:49,018 --> 00:22:52,183 or I'm going to become a pornography star. 383 00:22:52,185 --> 00:22:55,113 This country does not raise people with a very good work ethic. 384 00:22:55,115 --> 00:22:58,242 They don't know how to do anything else. They don't know how to do retail, 385 00:22:58,244 --> 00:23:01,916 they don't know how to do Excel spreadsheets. 386 00:23:01,918 --> 00:23:04,788 Many people who make their way to adult entertainment, 387 00:23:04,790 --> 00:23:08,016 like rock-and-roll, are not suited for nine-to-five work. 388 00:23:09,043 --> 00:23:12,203 I, ran away from home at sixteen 389 00:23:12,205 --> 00:23:14,311 and was living on the streets at seventeen. 390 00:23:14,313 --> 00:23:16,772 Uh, everything I owned was in two garbage bags. 391 00:23:16,774 --> 00:23:22,184 Um, my parents were saying I hope you just kill yourself 392 00:23:22,186 --> 00:23:24,153 and make life a lot easier for the rest of us. 393 00:23:24,518 --> 00:23:27,833 Uh, it was just on and on and on so there I was out on the streets 394 00:23:27,835 --> 00:23:32,825 and then, when I got taken in with a foster family, um, I made sure that 395 00:23:32,827 --> 00:23:35,925 I kept finishing school with good grades because that was gonna be my future 396 00:23:35,927 --> 00:23:38,755 that was gonna be my ticket outta there and then when I went to college 397 00:23:38,822 --> 00:23:42,078 on full academic scholarship. I never actually went to classes. 398 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:44,654 I said okay I've got free room and board, I need to make money. 399 00:23:44,998 --> 00:23:47,177 I need to get some sort of security and stability 400 00:23:47,221 --> 00:23:51,978 in my life so I don't have to turn tricks to get food to eat. 401 00:23:52,078 --> 00:23:55,569 So I took up stripping, I went to all the local strip bars, 402 00:23:55,571 --> 00:23:59,496 and from there I started doing magazines in New York City. 403 00:23:59,498 --> 00:24:02,455 I would take a train to New York City on weekends and do magazines. 404 00:24:02,682 --> 00:24:06,621 And then, uh, a photographer said he knew a director in California 405 00:24:06,623 --> 00:24:09,856 named Bud Lee who could direct me in some movies if I wanted to do that. 406 00:24:09,858 --> 00:24:14,328 So um, I packed up my suitcase and a teddy bear and went out to LA. 407 00:24:14,348 --> 00:24:18,336 Made a movie for Bud Lee, married him, didn't come back. 408 00:24:18,776 --> 00:24:21,348 The reason that I wanted to do porn, 409 00:24:21,350 --> 00:24:25,508 even though I was so smart, Miss MENSA and all that is 410 00:24:25,510 --> 00:24:28,801 uh, it's precisely because I wanted to stop being known 411 00:24:28,803 --> 00:24:32,913 as the nerd the geek the, the one that you come over 412 00:24:32,915 --> 00:24:35,860 and you be nice to me just so you can copy off of my tests, you know. 413 00:24:37,028 --> 00:24:39,749 I would hang out with some of my misfit friends and they had, 414 00:24:39,751 --> 00:24:42,987 they had adult magazines hidden under their bed and they would look at them 415 00:24:42,989 --> 00:24:44,926 and I would be peeking over their shoulder. 416 00:24:44,982 --> 00:24:46,813 I wish someone looked at me like that. 417 00:24:46,815 --> 00:24:49,045 And that was just like my wildest fantasy that 418 00:24:49,047 --> 00:24:53,168 someone would think that I was pretty and sexy and, woo! 419 00:24:53,170 --> 00:24:55,546 All my life I'd just been the nerd and the geek. 420 00:24:55,548 --> 00:24:57,770 So it was like a fantasy come true for me that 421 00:24:57,772 --> 00:25:00,179 someone wanted to see me on the cover of a magazine. 422 00:25:00,181 --> 00:25:01,947 When I got to porn it was like 423 00:25:02,013 --> 00:25:05,126 wait, I get to pick which one of these good-looking guys I wanna sleep with? 424 00:25:05,128 --> 00:25:06,823 And uh, you're gonna pay me for it 425 00:25:06,882 --> 00:25:09,659 and then you're gonna put me on a box cover and give me tons of money? 426 00:25:09,741 --> 00:25:13,129 It was just uh, a really big step up from where I was coming from. 427 00:25:13,784 --> 00:25:16,867 Porn wasn't all that much of a mental challenge for me shall we say, um, 428 00:25:17,627 --> 00:25:20,704 standing there and saying my silly lines just, 429 00:25:20,730 --> 00:25:22,713 it didn't take up a whole lot of my day 430 00:25:22,985 --> 00:25:25,864 so meanwhile you got a lot of time to sit around and wait 431 00:25:25,909 --> 00:25:29,010 so uh, I just kept myself busy by learning every single job on the set. 432 00:25:30,686 --> 00:25:34,298 Um, I... I would get the grips to take me down to the grip truck 433 00:25:34,300 --> 00:25:37,437 and show me the names of everything on there and teach me how to do everything 434 00:25:37,439 --> 00:25:40,762 by showing up with my little grip belt and my shorts and my gloves and no shirt on. 435 00:25:40,780 --> 00:25:44,845 And I would ask very nicely if they would teach me their job and they did, 436 00:25:45,209 --> 00:25:49,421 and, much the same way I learned editing, directing, producing, scriptwriting, 437 00:25:49,757 --> 00:25:52,119 um, every job on the set I've gotten. 438 00:25:52,595 --> 00:25:55,763 If you look on IMDB my name has got all credits next to it I did everything. 439 00:25:56,349 --> 00:25:58,825 I even designed my own box covers. 440 00:25:59,427 --> 00:26:02,507 Um, what made me different was I was the first half-asian 441 00:26:02,509 --> 00:26:04,974 to become an A-list star in the business. 442 00:26:06,005 --> 00:26:07,934 Um, before I'd started there was the white girls 443 00:26:07,936 --> 00:26:11,079 and the black girls and the asian girls and each had their own separate genre, 444 00:26:11,131 --> 00:26:15,542 and, they didn't mix, you, you don't put an asian girl in a white girl movie. 445 00:26:15,780 --> 00:26:17,176 It's just the way it was. 446 00:26:17,450 --> 00:26:19,496 And then when I came in and I was only half-asian 447 00:26:19,509 --> 00:26:22,309 the features were soft enough that they could still put me on a cover 448 00:26:22,334 --> 00:26:25,684 and I could still be a white girl, or and asian girl, they could play me either way. 449 00:26:25,765 --> 00:26:28,919 Or they could play me as an Indian or a Gypsy, or, Greek girl! 450 00:26:28,921 --> 00:26:30,502 They gave me all the different roles. 451 00:26:30,504 --> 00:26:33,569 So they just, they wound up using my look as very versatile. 452 00:26:33,571 --> 00:26:37,269 And so I became the first "cross-over" star from a minority, 453 00:26:37,271 --> 00:26:39,352 and then uh, I guess they did pretty well with me 454 00:26:39,354 --> 00:26:42,653 cause after I left Vivid they got Koby Tie, who was full asian, so, 455 00:26:42,946 --> 00:26:46,706 I kinda opened the door for the minorities to become A-listers. 456 00:26:46,708 --> 00:26:48,857 I, I hated doing live appearance. 457 00:26:48,859 --> 00:26:51,971 Oh I'm getting sweaty just looking at this picture. Yeah. 458 00:26:52,207 --> 00:26:54,850 I spent like all year long dreading the CES Show. 459 00:26:54,904 --> 00:26:56,833 I would just have to keep telling myself 460 00:26:56,835 --> 00:26:59,566 they're more scared than you are, they're more scared than you are. 461 00:26:59,803 --> 00:27:03,028 Cause I'd smile and I'd say "So what's your name?" and they'd go... 462 00:27:03,975 --> 00:27:06,624 they'd just look at me. Okay what's your name?! 463 00:27:07,573 --> 00:27:10,716 If you see my very first interviews from when I was nineteen, twenty years old, 464 00:27:10,718 --> 00:27:12,615 I said I'm gonna retire when I'm thirty. 465 00:27:12,617 --> 00:27:15,224 And people would laugh and say oh you've got it all planned out. 466 00:27:15,226 --> 00:27:17,043 There really wasn't any question about it. 467 00:27:17,457 --> 00:27:21,167 I had, gotten married, and, then divorced. 468 00:27:21,628 --> 00:27:25,432 And I met someone who had adult bookstores. 469 00:27:25,434 --> 00:27:28,104 So I basically got my introduction 470 00:27:28,106 --> 00:27:32,182 to the adult entertainment world through working in adult bookstores, 471 00:27:32,514 --> 00:27:37,285 and then consequently owning adult bookstores and I saw the women 472 00:27:37,287 --> 00:27:41,612 that were doing movies at the time and, I was just, 473 00:27:41,614 --> 00:27:45,831 amazed, because, they had pimples on their rear-ends, 474 00:27:45,833 --> 00:27:48,782 they had on no makeup, their feet were dirty, 475 00:27:48,784 --> 00:27:51,707 their hair was dirty, and I thought my god, 476 00:27:51,709 --> 00:27:54,411 this is not a really good representation of women. 477 00:27:54,578 --> 00:27:56,089 I wanna do that. 478 00:27:56,091 --> 00:28:03,795 I mean I had done, um, a few magazines and a few uh, like, 8 mm loops, 479 00:28:03,797 --> 00:28:08,469 and then I came to California, and I picked up one of the free papers and, 480 00:28:08,471 --> 00:28:09,965 there was an ad. 481 00:28:09,967 --> 00:28:14,067 My family was very, very okay with what I did because 482 00:28:14,283 --> 00:28:19,273 I did tell them what I was about to do before I actually did anything. 483 00:28:19,714 --> 00:28:24,916 I mean I'd done a couple of photo shoots, and decided that I needed to tell my family 484 00:28:24,918 --> 00:28:28,304 before it got out there because I didn't want 485 00:28:28,306 --> 00:28:30,537 them finding out from someone else. 486 00:28:30,611 --> 00:28:34,234 And they're like well do, you think you can make money at it? 487 00:28:34,236 --> 00:28:36,766 You think you can have a good career and be happy doing this? 488 00:28:36,768 --> 00:28:40,072 And I said yes I do, and they said good, go do it. 489 00:28:41,150 --> 00:28:44,564 We had a very small community of people, 490 00:28:44,965 --> 00:28:48,303 of players, that we all worked with. 491 00:28:48,305 --> 00:28:50,916 And we all worked with each other quite a bit. 492 00:28:51,486 --> 00:28:56,626 So the community was small, we were familiar with one another, and, we actu... 493 00:28:56,628 --> 00:29:01,719 it's like when you, have a, a new boyfriend or new girlfriend or a new husband or wife, 494 00:29:01,721 --> 00:29:04,599 it takes a little while before you know what 495 00:29:04,601 --> 00:29:06,734 pushes their buttons, what turns them on 496 00:29:06,736 --> 00:29:10,543 what makes them feel good, and then it starts 497 00:29:10,628 --> 00:29:16,001 to become very intimate, and, you can actually, 498 00:29:16,301 --> 00:29:20,056 have an intimate relationship with the person you're working with on screen, 499 00:29:20,481 --> 00:29:22,682 and be fond of them after the movie is over. 500 00:29:23,492 --> 00:29:27,767 Um, but they're just generally sweet nice people. 501 00:29:29,410 --> 00:29:35,073 I was being offered parts in movies, in, or photo shoots or what have you, 502 00:29:35,075 --> 00:29:39,274 and they didn't want to pay me the amount of money I wanted, 503 00:29:39,308 --> 00:29:42,452 and I said no. I just, I held out. 504 00:29:43,007 --> 00:29:47,612 So, um, and subsequently I started stripping, 505 00:29:47,614 --> 00:29:51,651 going across the, basically across the world stripping. 506 00:29:51,876 --> 00:29:55,948 And uh, doing photo shoots with Club Magazine predominantly. 507 00:29:56,572 --> 00:29:59,256 And um, so they didn't see me in front, 508 00:29:59,258 --> 00:30:02,530 people didn't see me in front of the camera so they thought okay, she's retired. 509 00:30:03,168 --> 00:30:05,619 I've been retired and come back so many times 510 00:30:05,662 --> 00:30:09,223 I can't keep track anymore. I've also been dead a few times. 511 00:30:11,665 --> 00:30:14,906 I saw an add in the paper it said "Nude fun, big bucks." 512 00:30:14,908 --> 00:30:17,709 and uh, it was an audition for an X-rated movie. 513 00:30:17,711 --> 00:30:19,826 Two days later I get a call from the producer, 514 00:30:20,058 --> 00:30:21,701 they wanna give me a part in the movie. 515 00:30:21,703 --> 00:30:23,678 I hadn't planned on that. 516 00:30:23,888 --> 00:30:29,925 At the time, I had applied to the Hebrew Union Seminary in Cincinnati, 517 00:30:29,927 --> 00:30:33,070 where they uh, train people to become Rabbis. 518 00:30:33,499 --> 00:30:37,028 So I'm trying to measure, do I wanna do this, 519 00:30:37,030 --> 00:30:38,955 or do I wanna be in a porn movie because it seems 520 00:30:38,957 --> 00:30:40,923 if I take the part in the porn movie I maybe, 521 00:30:41,525 --> 00:30:45,241 um, cutting some of my options off, for future life. 522 00:30:45,843 --> 00:30:50,255 And the uh, seminary in Cincinnati said we'll take you 523 00:30:50,257 --> 00:30:55,079 but the first two years you have to go to Jerusalem and study Aramaic, which, 524 00:30:55,081 --> 00:30:58,910 I would rather go to Cleveland and study their sewer system. 525 00:30:58,912 --> 00:31:01,122 Um, no interest there. 526 00:31:01,124 --> 00:31:03,560 So I decided I would make the porn movie. 527 00:31:03,562 --> 00:31:07,078 And, in any case the kind of Rabbi I would become, 528 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,489 would be the kind that could've made a porn movie. 529 00:31:09,491 --> 00:31:12,310 And uh, I went ahead and did the job. 530 00:31:12,373 --> 00:31:16,775 I think I had to become a sex star just to come back to normal! 531 00:31:16,777 --> 00:31:20,751 Cause I'd been so humiliated by being the fat kid! 532 00:31:20,753 --> 00:31:23,391 I had the largest breasts in the seventh grade! 533 00:31:23,393 --> 00:31:27,087 The guys would make fun of me and point at me and tease me! 534 00:31:27,089 --> 00:31:30,761 Do you know how deep those scars go?! That's ugly shit! 535 00:31:30,763 --> 00:31:33,552 Those are the people that become centerfolds! 536 00:31:33,554 --> 00:31:35,209 Cause they got something to prove. 537 00:31:35,211 --> 00:31:39,599 I was lucky enough to uh, be in the era when they were 538 00:31:39,601 --> 00:31:42,260 actually trying to make movies where you needed to remember lines. 539 00:31:42,262 --> 00:31:44,598 And I had the, I was good at that. 540 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:50,002 So, I got hired for my acting ability, which being a good actor in porn, 541 00:31:50,231 --> 00:31:53,665 is like being the wisest man in the kingdom of the fools. 542 00:31:53,667 --> 00:31:56,441 He promised that I could fuck you next. - He what?! 543 00:31:57,545 --> 00:32:00,001 Gah! Ow! 544 00:32:00,796 --> 00:32:03,956 Let him alone! I said let him alone! 545 00:32:03,958 --> 00:32:06,556 Ow! Ah, oh uh! 546 00:32:06,997 --> 00:32:10,884 Get the fuck outta here! - My ankle! Ow, my ankle! 547 00:32:11,590 --> 00:32:13,117 I was terrible at the sex. 548 00:32:13,119 --> 00:32:15,831 Just rotten! I was just so traumatized by it. 549 00:32:15,835 --> 00:32:19,976 But I eventually did learn how to have sex on camera. 550 00:32:19,978 --> 00:32:23,571 I was on the beach in San Diego and uh, I was by myself. 551 00:32:24,010 --> 00:32:28,397 And I'm sitting there, and I notice there's a really beautiful woman, 552 00:32:28,886 --> 00:32:33,694 laying on a towel and so my gaze drifts over to her and her boyfriend looks at me 553 00:32:33,696 --> 00:32:35,894 and sees her... and I look away. 554 00:32:35,896 --> 00:32:38,508 And then eventually I'd drift back and I'm looking at her again 555 00:32:38,533 --> 00:32:41,147 and the boyfriend sees me looking at her again and I'm like shit. 556 00:32:41,149 --> 00:32:45,101 Well the guy gets up, and he starts walkin' over towards me 557 00:32:45,103 --> 00:32:48,149 and I'm going Oh no! Here we go. 558 00:32:48,151 --> 00:32:49,620 You know, this is gonna get ugly. 559 00:32:49,622 --> 00:32:54,263 And he gets close to me and I, I'm just clenching my fist ready to defend myself. 560 00:32:54,265 --> 00:32:58,875 The guy's a monster, I'm gonna get killed, I know it, and he leans in and he says 561 00:32:58,877 --> 00:33:03,623 "Were you in Insatiable?" And I went YES! YES! 562 00:33:03,625 --> 00:33:06,558 I was so happy that's what it was, he recognized me from the movie 563 00:33:06,568 --> 00:33:09,610 business and he wasn't gonna kick my ass it was a true delight. 564 00:33:09,667 --> 00:33:12,095 A true delight. We became friends at that point. 565 00:33:12,250 --> 00:33:14,222 I hadn't told my parents that I was doing this. 566 00:33:14,290 --> 00:33:19,369 I told them I had, was doing commercials and low-budget nothing, and, 567 00:33:20,671 --> 00:33:24,207 well, that I, I knew that they weren't gonna be. 568 00:33:24,325 --> 00:33:27,326 I didn't suspect they would be very approving of this kinda stuff. 569 00:33:27,916 --> 00:33:32,590 I made the original call prepared to become the black sheep of the family. 570 00:33:32,592 --> 00:33:37,107 It didn't happen. I'm sure they were less than thrilled. 571 00:33:37,903 --> 00:33:41,541 When my mother would be at the grocery store the next day and they say 572 00:33:41,543 --> 00:33:43,648 "Good to see you, how you doing? 573 00:33:43,739 --> 00:33:47,309 What's going on? " " Well! My son the doctor's coming back from Israel, 574 00:33:47,311 --> 00:33:51,106 and my other son, he makes shmackle movies in California!" 575 00:33:53,550 --> 00:33:58,112 Well I think people may have a negative reaction to someone who's a porn star 576 00:33:58,114 --> 00:34:01,391 for a combination of reasons. 577 00:34:01,393 --> 00:34:06,388 One is, somebody who seems to indiscriminately be willing to sleep with anyone, 578 00:34:06,390 --> 00:34:11,389 whether it's on film or not, is, no matter what people say, 579 00:34:11,597 --> 00:34:15,043 still not somebody who's particularly admired and, 580 00:34:15,045 --> 00:34:19,277 again may pose a threat to many relationships. 581 00:34:19,279 --> 00:34:22,776 It is legal work, but it's fucking. 582 00:34:23,843 --> 00:34:25,707 With pictures. 583 00:34:25,709 --> 00:34:28,377 People say "you should, should go into politics" 584 00:34:28,498 --> 00:34:30,406 There's too many pictures with dicks in my ass, 585 00:34:30,408 --> 00:34:32,276 it's like, it's not going to happen. 586 00:34:32,278 --> 00:34:34,675 It happened by happenstance. 587 00:34:34,677 --> 00:34:38,342 I came up with some friends and I went to a club 588 00:34:38,344 --> 00:34:43,247 called The Rainbow, and, I met there Althea Flint, 589 00:34:43,249 --> 00:34:46,968 the wife of Larry Flint, and a photographer that 590 00:34:46,970 --> 00:34:50,781 she had in tow, and they approached me and invited me 591 00:34:50,783 --> 00:34:54,481 to their table, and asked me if I wanted to go to a club 592 00:34:54,483 --> 00:34:56,796 and have some drinks and I did. 593 00:34:56,798 --> 00:34:59,123 And she was, doing an interview for Sting, 594 00:34:59,125 --> 00:35:02,227 and we were up there looking to meet some rockstars, 595 00:35:02,229 --> 00:35:05,326 you know, we were just girls. Doing our thing. 596 00:35:05,328 --> 00:35:09,067 And she took us in her limo, she had this black limo that 597 00:35:09,069 --> 00:35:11,472 had this Think Pink on the license plate and this, 598 00:35:11,474 --> 00:35:13,743 I think it was a naked lady on the side of it. 599 00:35:13,745 --> 00:35:15,777 And I was so impressed by that. 600 00:35:15,779 --> 00:35:19,309 She said what do you do and I said I'm a model and she said -Wow! 601 00:35:19,392 --> 00:35:23,508 I sh... you know, I, I own Hustler Magazine and we're gonna put you in Hustler. 602 00:35:23,542 --> 00:35:25,164 So, that was that! 603 00:35:25,554 --> 00:35:29,676 Um, I went into Hustler and um, started doing magazines. 604 00:35:30,252 --> 00:35:34,079 My brother found out and, he had tried to talk me into it many times, 605 00:35:34,081 --> 00:35:36,365 because everybody always said Hey Buck! 606 00:35:36,367 --> 00:35:38,472 Can you get your sister to do a movie oh my god! 607 00:35:38,474 --> 00:35:42,085 And, um, you know, we never worked together, 608 00:35:42,087 --> 00:35:46,387 on set, but, we always championed each other's careers. 609 00:35:46,389 --> 00:35:50,619 And so my brother said to me, um, I want you to do a movie. 610 00:35:50,621 --> 00:35:52,672 And he set it up with Sin City, 611 00:35:52,674 --> 00:35:56,146 it was actually done for Sin City and it was called Babewatch, 612 00:35:56,243 --> 00:35:58,637 and it was for my brother's Babewatch series, cause he said 613 00:35:58,645 --> 00:36:02,810 if you're gonna do movies for anybody, you have to do, you have to do one for me, sis, 614 00:36:03,275 --> 00:36:04,871 so I said okay I will. 615 00:36:04,898 --> 00:36:07,195 And the sex was real, you know, 616 00:36:07,197 --> 00:36:12,253 you'd say, how do you want the blow-job? And he'd say, how do you like the blowjob? 617 00:36:12,255 --> 00:36:15,834 And that would be it, you know and that, we would build off of that. 618 00:36:15,836 --> 00:36:19,237 You know, I was the kinda person, it, I lived a life of excess, 619 00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:23,855 and people would invite me to parties, and they would think Wow! 620 00:36:23,857 --> 00:36:29,304 If I offer her some party tools, then, I'm gonna have my night set up, 621 00:36:29,306 --> 00:36:32,458 I'm gonna wind up getting laid all night by this beautiful porn star. 622 00:36:32,460 --> 00:36:35,494 And then as my addiction went through another door, 623 00:36:36,427 --> 00:36:39,476 they'd hand me the bag of coke and I'd wind up in the bathroom all night 624 00:36:39,478 --> 00:36:42,144 you know, and you wouldn't be able to drag me out of the bathroom 625 00:36:42,166 --> 00:36:44,762 and I'd be like don't touch me! And oh! 626 00:36:45,123 --> 00:36:49,885 And all of my life started to kind of spiral. 627 00:36:49,887 --> 00:36:53,416 I wound up getting arrested, um, on the highway, 628 00:36:53,418 --> 00:36:58,486 and the police knew exactly who I was, when I got arrested, 629 00:36:58,488 --> 00:37:02,431 and, they wanted to make an example of me with the court system. 630 00:37:02,433 --> 00:37:07,727 They knew that I was, you know, a big porn star, and um, the gig was up. 631 00:37:07,729 --> 00:37:09,516 And I had to face it. 632 00:37:09,518 --> 00:37:12,796 And it was the greatest thing that ever happened to me when I look back on it now, 633 00:37:12,864 --> 00:37:15,895 because it really brought me into reality. 634 00:37:16,923 --> 00:37:20,360 For the women, they're much more damned by society 635 00:37:20,362 --> 00:37:22,780 because no matter how sanctified they are, 636 00:37:23,295 --> 00:37:26,857 they're still considered to be whores, and it's getting worse and worse and worse 637 00:37:26,925 --> 00:37:31,079 because a lot of them have turned to, what I am vehemently opposed to, 638 00:37:31,164 --> 00:37:33,791 the escort services, to further their career. 639 00:37:33,793 --> 00:37:38,103 In many ways, it has a dehumanizing quality, 640 00:37:38,262 --> 00:37:44,647 because what you're responding to are a set of, physical cues. 641 00:37:45,151 --> 00:37:47,565 You are responding to the body, 642 00:37:47,567 --> 00:37:50,771 and you're responding to the sexual acts per say 643 00:37:50,773 --> 00:37:53,879 in a way that is quite animalistic. 644 00:37:53,881 --> 00:37:59,804 And, having a more full depiction of the person 645 00:37:59,806 --> 00:38:05,851 may even detract from the ability to use it purely 646 00:38:05,853 --> 00:38:09,417 as masturbatory or other kind of sexual stimulation. 647 00:38:09,419 --> 00:38:14,062 You can take every other category, every other idea, every other thought. 648 00:38:14,064 --> 00:38:17,536 Basically happiness and success in life all boils down 649 00:38:17,538 --> 00:38:20,054 to what are the quality of your bonds with other people. 650 00:38:20,056 --> 00:38:23,410 Having anything to do with the a dult industry hacks away those bonds, 651 00:38:23,412 --> 00:38:27,749 so you're isolated, alienated, um, pushed away to the margins, 652 00:38:27,751 --> 00:38:29,672 and not treated as a human being. 653 00:38:29,738 --> 00:38:33,104 That's a recipe for disaster, for me and for anyone else. 654 00:38:33,669 --> 00:38:37,144 Um, when I was in college a couple of us on the dance team worked at Hooters 655 00:38:37,462 --> 00:38:39,635 so I was working at Hooters, I love doing that, 656 00:38:39,637 --> 00:38:43,161 a lot of the girls at Hooters were telling me how I would make a lot of money stripping 657 00:38:43,170 --> 00:38:46,082 and then I had a boyfriend in college who brought me, 658 00:38:46,084 --> 00:38:48,365 I went with him and his friends to a strip club one night 659 00:38:48,367 --> 00:38:50,417 because they always used to go watch amateur night. 660 00:38:48,667 --> 00:38:50,417 661 00:38:50,418 --> 00:38:53,137 He's like I think you could win, I think you could beat these girls 662 00:38:53,187 --> 00:38:56,367 at amateur night. So I entered and I won, I got first place out of twelve girls 663 00:38:53,487 --> 00:38:56,627 664 00:38:56,448 --> 00:38:58,929 in the amateur contest, and I got $500. 665 00:38:56,648 --> 00:38:58,929 666 00:38:59,011 --> 00:39:03,406 So I was like this is a really cool job I get to drink, and dance and make money. 667 00:39:03,588 --> 00:39:05,726 This is way better than anything else I can imagine. 668 00:39:05,728 --> 00:39:08,986 When I was twenty-one I used to watch a lot of those cinemaX movies 669 00:39:05,928 --> 00:39:08,986 670 00:39:08,988 --> 00:39:12,847 and so I went to uh, Blockbuster and I got the address off the box 671 00:39:12,849 --> 00:39:16,207 of a cinemaX movie and I mailed some Polaroids of myself 672 00:39:16,209 --> 00:39:20,026 and a a few headshots I had taken, um, like, and just pictures and I mailed it 673 00:39:20,028 --> 00:39:23,199 and I wrote this letter about how I think I'd really like to be in the movies. 674 00:39:23,240 --> 00:39:25,107 And I heard nothing and then three months later 675 00:39:25,156 --> 00:39:26,626 I actually got a call from Playboy. 676 00:39:26,651 --> 00:39:29,380 Coming to this industry I pretty much came into it thinking okay 677 00:39:26,851 --> 00:39:29,380 678 00:39:29,382 --> 00:39:33,455 I'm going to somehow be one of the most well-known pornstars of all time. 679 00:39:33,504 --> 00:39:36,889 I wouldn't wanna come into it and just be another girl that was around for two years 680 00:39:37,030 --> 00:39:41,089 and then have to go be a hooker. You know. After I did the Hus-the Playboy thing, 681 00:39:41,091 --> 00:39:43,972 um, I shot for Hustler, the next month I came out to LA, 682 00:39:43,974 --> 00:39:46,524 um, within three weeks after shooting for Hustler, 683 00:39:46,526 --> 00:39:49,584 um, his wife and his dau-uh his sister, 684 00:39:49,586 --> 00:39:51,579 or, his daughter, told me how much they loved me 685 00:39:51,581 --> 00:39:53,998 and they ended up taking me on the Larry Flint Freedom Tour. 686 00:39:54,003 --> 00:39:56,291 They chose four girls to go with Larry Flint 687 00:39:56,406 --> 00:39:59,293 to like different Hustler stores on the freedom tour and they chose me 688 00:39:59,295 --> 00:40:02,262 and then Hustler had me, my very first day being on the show um, 689 00:40:02,338 --> 00:40:04,047 a Hustler chose me to sign at their booth, 690 00:40:04,049 --> 00:40:06,249 cause they don't have contract girls they pick girls. 691 00:40:06,251 --> 00:40:08,308 And then a month later there was a Magic Convention 692 00:40:08,310 --> 00:40:10,909 which is a clothing convention and Hustler was launching 693 00:40:10,923 --> 00:40:14,275 their clothing and Hustler had chosen me to be the model of their clothing 694 00:40:14,277 --> 00:40:16,408 and they made, you know, pictures of me modeling it. 695 00:40:16,410 --> 00:40:18,348 So I really didn't think about life after porn 696 00:40:18,443 --> 00:40:21,734 because I just couldn't believe how like, all these things kept happening. 697 00:40:18,750 --> 00:40:21,641 698 00:40:21,757 --> 00:40:23,979 I mean just the things that happened to me as a new girl 699 00:40:23,981 --> 00:40:27,193 in porn don't happen to most new girls I mean, I met Larry Flint um, 700 00:40:27,195 --> 00:40:29,606 pretty much my second month in the business. 701 00:40:29,694 --> 00:40:32,628 So I didn't think about life after. I just said... I just always said 702 00:40:32,630 --> 00:40:35,344 I'm gonna get married and have kids. I used to say by twenty-seven. 703 00:40:35,346 --> 00:40:38,507 Now I say I wanna get married by thirty and have kids by thirty-two. 704 00:40:38,849 --> 00:40:40,581 While I was married I only did girl-girl. 705 00:40:40,583 --> 00:40:42,424 I left my husband and did boy-girl. 706 00:40:40,883 --> 00:40:42,424 707 00:40:42,426 --> 00:40:46,675 Um, when I got back with my husband at kickass I only did girl-girl again, 708 00:40:46,677 --> 00:40:48,951 we split up, I did boy-girl, heh! 709 00:40:48,998 --> 00:40:51,660 Then I took like a hiatus for about six-seven months 710 00:40:51,662 --> 00:40:54,127 and didn't shoot anything. And that's when I met this guy, 711 00:40:54,129 --> 00:40:56,904 um, who's my, ended up becoming my fiance, but we were dating, 712 00:40:57,020 --> 00:41:00,109 and I didn't do boy-girl when I was with him for the first six months, 713 00:41:00,111 --> 00:41:03,270 and then he was like, don't you think you should go get a new porn contract 714 00:41:03,322 --> 00:41:05,771 because that's extra income we can have every month. 715 00:41:05,773 --> 00:41:08,266 And I was like well, you want me to have sex with other guys? 716 00:41:08,458 --> 00:41:10,442 And he was like well, it's only six times a year 717 00:41:10,444 --> 00:41:12,844 you're gonna do it, and it's with a condom. I was like okay. 718 00:41:12,868 --> 00:41:14,736 Then of course, like, two days before the movie 719 00:41:14,738 --> 00:41:17,109 my ex was like, I don't want you having sex with other guys. 720 00:41:17,243 --> 00:41:18,954 Arrrrg! Arr! - Let go of me! 721 00:41:17,443 --> 00:41:19,054 722 00:41:18,956 --> 00:41:21,828 Your derri`ere may be pretty, but that don't mean 723 00:41:21,830 --> 00:41:24,643 it's bull-worked from a promiscuous lashing. 724 00:41:28,907 --> 00:41:31,453 Every two-and-a-half months I'd have to shoot a boy-girl scene 725 00:41:31,492 --> 00:41:34,715 and er-usually about two days before he would start being really mean to me, 726 00:41:34,717 --> 00:41:36,124 and calling me names, 727 00:41:36,126 --> 00:41:38,485 even though he was the one who wanted me to do the movies. 728 00:41:38,487 --> 00:41:40,334 Then, on the day when I'd go to shoot the movie 729 00:41:40,336 --> 00:41:42,423 he'd go out with his friends and get really drunk, 730 00:41:42,472 --> 00:41:44,746 then he usually would not kiss me or anything for two days later 731 00:41:44,795 --> 00:41:46,900 and then when my check would come in he's like that's my check, 732 00:41:46,953 --> 00:41:48,633 since I let you have sex with other people. 733 00:41:47,253 --> 00:41:49,133 734 00:41:48,644 --> 00:41:49,928 And then when I would be asleep sometimes, 735 00:41:49,930 --> 00:41:52,257 I'd be asleep and I'd hear him watching my movies. 736 00:41:50,330 --> 00:41:52,257 737 00:41:52,302 --> 00:41:54,372 He'd go and put it in like slow motion 738 00:41:54,374 --> 00:41:56,938 and make sure the guy wore a condom and I wasn't lying about it. 739 00:41:56,942 --> 00:41:58,457 Um, let's see. 740 00:41:58,459 --> 00:42:01,541 The most I ever made in a month was probably when I was running for governor 741 00:42:01,543 --> 00:42:04,228 because my website was making around twenty-thousand a month 742 00:42:04,230 --> 00:42:06,419 and then my online store selling t-shirts and buttons 743 00:42:06,421 --> 00:42:08,690 made about ten-fifteen thousand a month, 744 00:42:08,764 --> 00:42:11,424 and, I felt really bad cause I didn't have time to mail'em all out 745 00:42:11,495 --> 00:42:13,507 so I just ended up not mailing people their orders. 746 00:42:13,571 --> 00:42:14,872 I feel really bad about that. 747 00:42:14,874 --> 00:42:17,367 Um, and then my contract was six thousand a month 748 00:42:15,274 --> 00:42:17,467 749 00:42:17,374 --> 00:42:20,577 and I was feature dancing, at that time feature dancing used to pay a lot more. 750 00:42:20,757 --> 00:42:23,159 That was like, six thousand for like, three weeks. 751 00:42:23,161 --> 00:42:25,887 I dunno how much that is, maybe like 50, 60 thousand in a month. 752 00:42:25,975 --> 00:42:27,133 That's probably the most. 753 00:42:27,135 --> 00:42:29,149 And then I won a game show around that same time. 754 00:42:29,168 --> 00:42:31,494 I won a game show Who Wants to be Governor of California? 755 00:42:31,515 --> 00:42:33,978 I won another twenty-one thousand. Um, that was great. 756 00:42:34,354 --> 00:42:37,414 Um, I guess the most in the year would probably be around 300 thousand. 757 00:42:37,426 --> 00:42:39,420 I mean I don't think I thought I was set for life 758 00:42:39,422 --> 00:42:41,363 I always used to joke with everyone that um, 759 00:42:39,822 --> 00:42:41,763 760 00:42:41,590 --> 00:42:44,557 I'm either going to, just make a lot of money 761 00:42:41,890 --> 00:42:44,557 762 00:42:44,621 --> 00:42:47,393 or I might worst case scenario I'll marry a rich person. 763 00:42:47,419 --> 00:42:49,059 That's what I always said. 764 00:42:51,691 --> 00:42:55,433 No one comes into this business to wanna be normal on the back end of it. 765 00:42:55,435 --> 00:42:57,387 Nobody thinks that it's gonna end. 766 00:42:57,389 --> 00:43:00,171 You jump on a merry-go-round you hope the ride never ends. 767 00:43:00,173 --> 00:43:02,687 I don't think many of them can spell the word future. 768 00:43:02,689 --> 00:43:05,882 I don't think they did this as a short term investment in their own future, 769 00:43:06,284 --> 00:43:07,459 but they burned out. 770 00:43:07,722 --> 00:43:08,862 Hookers are hookers. 771 00:43:08,864 --> 00:43:12,091 I mean hookers are people who are looking for a quick buck 772 00:43:12,093 --> 00:43:14,949 with the least amount of effort so they turn tricks. 773 00:43:14,951 --> 00:43:18,473 And, uh, being a porn star is just like, 774 00:43:18,475 --> 00:43:21,073 uh, you know the, the world's oldest profession 775 00:43:21,075 --> 00:43:25,515 so, it's, it's not that complicated, 776 00:43:26,312 --> 00:43:28,422 uh, reality is hard. 777 00:43:28,424 --> 00:43:31,297 A lot of people blame, blame the industry for their problems 778 00:43:31,299 --> 00:43:34,263 but, uh, then they get out in the real world and find, 779 00:43:34,265 --> 00:43:36,783 lots of problems in the real world too. 780 00:43:37,855 --> 00:43:39,450 I grew up in Pensilvania, um, 781 00:43:40,869 --> 00:43:43,033 in the steel-mill towns. 782 00:43:43,035 --> 00:43:46,089 Worked in the steel-mills, I drove cabs, 783 00:43:46,091 --> 00:43:48,602 it was sorta typical things, uh, people do. 784 00:43:48,604 --> 00:43:51,049 There I did some illustrations for magazines, 785 00:43:51,404 --> 00:43:55,550 in New York and eventually, started playing uh, music. 786 00:43:52,150 --> 00:43:54,717 787 00:43:55,552 --> 00:43:57,338 Did that for a while. 788 00:43:58,179 --> 00:44:01,831 And then I came out to California and end up getting into dirty movies. 789 00:44:02,791 --> 00:44:04,196 Just met some people. 790 00:44:04,198 --> 00:44:06,822 Actually I was gonna do a uh, a photo spread, 791 00:44:06,868 --> 00:44:09,792 I was gonna do some photography of some girls who were in the business. 792 00:44:09,841 --> 00:44:12,936 I had an idea I would do a photo shoot of them and then a little interview. 793 00:44:13,604 --> 00:44:17,418 And, some people I knew from illustrating magazines in New York said 794 00:44:17,498 --> 00:44:20,668 yeah, we'll see what you come up with, if it's good we'll pay you and everything 795 00:44:20,750 --> 00:44:25,097 so I met the... these two girls, and, before I knew it, uh, 796 00:44:25,099 --> 00:44:27,390 I was, in the movies! 797 00:44:27,607 --> 00:44:29,623 So that's sorta how that started. 798 00:44:29,625 --> 00:44:33,633 But you know when I was working it was, it wasn't like it is today, it was, 799 00:44:33,635 --> 00:44:37,915 I'd maybe work forty days a year and maybe 15 to 20 days were sex days. 800 00:44:37,917 --> 00:44:41,389 And today they work every day of the week. Maybe twice a day. 801 00:44:41,906 --> 00:44:44,875 You know, viagra shootin' up their cocks and stuff like that 802 00:44:44,877 --> 00:44:48,499 I mean it's just they're ruining their sex life 803 00:44:48,501 --> 00:44:50,649 for the rest of their lives, I'm telling ya! 804 00:44:50,651 --> 00:44:52,802 I just think there's too much going on, 805 00:44:52,804 --> 00:44:55,079 I mean just your personal appetite of it. 806 00:44:55,085 --> 00:44:57,758 I mean, if you're working as a performer 807 00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:00,843 and you're working that much I mean, sex loses it's mystery in it's sense 808 00:45:00,845 --> 00:45:05,413 and it's, I mean I remember being turned on to a point some times, certain situations 809 00:45:05,415 --> 00:45:07,442 where I would actually shake. 810 00:45:07,444 --> 00:45:09,742 I mean I'm sure everybody's been in that situation 811 00:45:09,744 --> 00:45:12,327 and now that, I hate to see that go away. 812 00:45:12,329 --> 00:45:14,757 I remember one time my dad picked me up from the airport, 813 00:45:15,775 --> 00:45:19,086 and I was coming in for the holidays and he's, and he- 814 00:45:19,088 --> 00:45:21,740 I had, my pictures were in Hustler magazine eh, 815 00:45:21,742 --> 00:45:25,737 they were on, about a movie and, and I think I was 816 00:45:26,369 --> 00:45:28,500 I was giving some girl head! 817 00:45:29,577 --> 00:45:33,554 And my father says, "I saw that picture in Hustler." 818 00:45:34,034 --> 00:45:39,134 I said uh, yeah, picture, that, wasn't so good of a picture. 819 00:45:39,641 --> 00:45:44,395 And that's all was said! They never wa... It was not something 820 00:45:44,397 --> 00:45:48,642 I wanted to expose them to because it wa... you know it it, it's embarrassing for them. 821 00:45:48,932 --> 00:45:52,031 We were so proud of what we did in some of these movies we did that were... 822 00:45:52,033 --> 00:45:54,755 that were, that got really big play, 823 00:45:54,757 --> 00:45:56,928 that I actually took her to screenings. 824 00:45:56,930 --> 00:45:58,923 We had these screenings in these theaters. 825 00:45:59,349 --> 00:46:02,534 And I'm taking my wife there watching me have sex with these people 826 00:46:02,983 --> 00:46:09,418 And, she was, it was difficult for her but, she appreciated 827 00:46:09,420 --> 00:46:12,448 the work we were doing, but after one or two times 828 00:46:12,450 --> 00:46:16,440 it was like... or we did that, I said hey we don't do this no more! 829 00:46:16,453 --> 00:46:18,965 She didn't wanna see any pictures of me or anything. 830 00:46:18,967 --> 00:46:21,058 Although she understood what I was doing and knew 831 00:46:21,060 --> 00:46:24,471 it was the thing that was not gonna be, a situation. 832 00:46:25,439 --> 00:46:29,366 Can I ask you something? Those cops, they're hung pretty good, huh? 833 00:46:30,626 --> 00:46:32,611 Bet they ain't got what I got. 834 00:46:36,366 --> 00:46:38,501 Nobody's got what I got. 835 00:46:40,201 --> 00:46:42,593 So, yeah, I'd like to retire and paint. 836 00:46:43,208 --> 00:46:46,793 If I had a game plan. I saved some money but I wasn't that good. 837 00:46:46,795 --> 00:46:49,553 No... I didn't make that much money though. 838 00:46:49,555 --> 00:46:51,833 Come on, what'd I make? I mean I, didn't work that much. 839 00:46:51,835 --> 00:46:54,635 You talking about when you were acting? Save money when he was acting?! 840 00:46:54,686 --> 00:46:57,774 He just didn't have any bills. I didn't have any bills. See I told you 841 00:46:57,776 --> 00:47:00,826 I didn't have any bills... And then he got me! Ha ha... 842 00:47:00,828 --> 00:47:03,752 Then she showed up! - I'm a high maintenance, baby. 843 00:47:03,839 --> 00:47:05,315 Then she showed up... 844 00:47:05,970 --> 00:47:09,142 Even if it's not particularly glamorous that day, 845 00:47:09,968 --> 00:47:13,006 you go to work and you get fussed over, 846 00:47:13,008 --> 00:47:16,508 and if it's a big enough production there's a makeup artist there, 847 00:47:16,510 --> 00:47:19,125 and there's, and there's attention, 848 00:47:19,127 --> 00:47:21,111 for people who like attention, um, 849 00:47:22,027 --> 00:47:26,383 and then they get paid! The very same day! Woohoo! 850 00:47:26,443 --> 00:47:29,653 Now, my great friend Lee Carol once said 851 00:47:29,655 --> 00:47:31,655 as long as you got a cunt, you'll never starve. 852 00:47:31,660 --> 00:47:36,958 But, as a danger to that, because, it wears on your mind. 853 00:47:37,790 --> 00:47:40,505 My parents didn't take, really an interest in my life 854 00:47:40,507 --> 00:47:43,167 and I was also sexually abused at nine-years-old. 855 00:47:43,169 --> 00:47:47,790 I had a teenaged boy and his sister who was my classmate 856 00:47:47,792 --> 00:47:50,963 introduce me to sexuality and uh, 857 00:47:50,965 --> 00:47:53,773 for the first time in my life and it horrified me. 858 00:47:54,046 --> 00:47:56,428 Yeah, as soon as I barely graduated high school, 859 00:47:56,430 --> 00:47:58,250 which, I had to cheat my way through, 860 00:47:58,252 --> 00:48:00,739 my dad ended up coming to me and saying listen, 861 00:48:00,741 --> 00:48:03,344 you're outta the house, and literally kicked me out on the street 862 00:48:03,346 --> 00:48:04,860 with no food, no money. 863 00:48:04,862 --> 00:48:06,816 And so I'm literally sitting out on the curb, 864 00:48:06,925 --> 00:48:11,530 on Sherman Way, that big tough rebellious teenager was balling her eyes out. 865 00:48:11,532 --> 00:48:15,086 And all of a sudden, this um, beautiful black man 866 00:48:15,088 --> 00:48:19,111 came over to me and says, are you alright? 867 00:48:19,113 --> 00:48:22,055 What's wrong, why are you crying sweetheart? 868 00:48:22,416 --> 00:48:25,867 "I have no money and I have no food and my dad kicked me out." 869 00:48:26,519 --> 00:48:29,624 He put his arm around me and I- I still to this day 870 00:48:29,626 --> 00:48:32,685 can tell you what that embrace felt like, 871 00:48:32,758 --> 00:48:34,977 and he just said baby I can help you 872 00:48:34,979 --> 00:48:37,334 and I thought Jesus has come to rescue me. 873 00:48:38,897 --> 00:48:41,271 You know I really thought he was gonna help me. 874 00:48:42,243 --> 00:48:44,887 And he said there's a man in the apartment complex 875 00:48:44,889 --> 00:48:47,285 who would love to make love to you. 876 00:48:47,287 --> 00:48:50,498 He lured me in. I went... You mean have sex?! 877 00:48:50,500 --> 00:48:54,989 He goes yes, but he's really gentle, really nice, and you'll get $35. 878 00:48:55,580 --> 00:48:58,518 So, here I am a single mother, 879 00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:02,446 I've done prostitution and stripping, now for six years I've had, uh, 880 00:49:02,494 --> 00:49:07,021 I've been at gunpoint, I've had stalkers try and kill me, 881 00:49:07,092 --> 00:49:11,652 cops try and bust me, I mean I've been in the mafia basically for six years. 882 00:49:12,347 --> 00:49:16,486 So, someone came to me says, girl, why don't you do porn? 883 00:49:16,948 --> 00:49:19,567 I said porn? What's that? 884 00:49:19,569 --> 00:49:23,932 It was a lot worse than prostitution, like, there's a whole crew around, 885 00:49:23,934 --> 00:49:26,393 they're all stroking themselves going... 886 00:49:26,395 --> 00:49:29,385 It was just totally degrading and I went oh my gosh 887 00:49:29,387 --> 00:49:31,272 this is bad, this is really bad. 888 00:49:31,558 --> 00:49:33,320 And then all of a sudden like, 889 00:49:33,322 --> 00:49:37,576 I can't explain it but all the rage I ever felt from, 890 00:49:37,578 --> 00:49:40,842 what my parents did, from childhood, from like, 891 00:49:40,844 --> 00:49:44,359 all the things that men abused me with in prostitution 892 00:49:44,361 --> 00:49:47,091 I just like, let it out, on the screen. 893 00:49:47,718 --> 00:49:52,126 He just said roll it and it's like here I am the newbie 894 00:49:52,128 --> 00:49:54,714 but I like, took over the entire scene, it was weird. 895 00:49:54,716 --> 00:50:00,489 I just went-Rrrraw! I'm Roxy! The porn star! Like I was pissed! 896 00:50:01,078 --> 00:50:04,696 But at the end of the scene it just ended and I had um, 897 00:50:05,614 --> 00:50:09,379 bodily fluids on my face, and they just kinda went 898 00:50:09,381 --> 00:50:13,611 here's a rag and they just threw it and me and I just grabbed the rag and went. 899 00:50:13,613 --> 00:50:15,386 And I didn't want them to see me cry, 900 00:50:15,388 --> 00:50:17,442 so I just kinda turned my face and I was like, 901 00:50:17,444 --> 00:50:21,168 oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, don't cry, Shelley, don't cry, don't cry, don't cry. 902 00:50:21,326 --> 00:50:25,030 Then now all of a sudden I'm involved doing like anal, um, 903 00:50:25,990 --> 00:50:29,547 gang-bangs with five or six different performers and I'm thinking oh my god. 904 00:50:29,549 --> 00:50:32,478 Now I'm bringing big jugs of vodka! 905 00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:34,235 And everyone's egging you on telling you 906 00:50:34,237 --> 00:50:37,576 no, girl we love you, we're your family now, you're awesome, 907 00:50:37,720 --> 00:50:40,471 and then, and there is a family atmosphere that they offer. 908 00:50:40,473 --> 00:50:44,194 Porn star karaoke, everybody hangs out at the same parties, wooooo! 909 00:50:44,505 --> 00:50:47,243 Girl, I love you! Everyone's very affectionate, 910 00:50:47,259 --> 00:50:50,570 and the reason why they're so affectionate is because that's their family. 911 00:50:51,205 --> 00:50:53,797 Um, they're out, especially in my day, we're outcasts. 912 00:50:53,838 --> 00:50:56,686 In fact I still have scars from suicide attempts. 913 00:50:57,013 --> 00:50:58,572 And I... 914 00:50:58,574 --> 00:51:00,719 I said I don't care, I don't wanna live anymore. 915 00:51:00,848 --> 00:51:03,812 And I took like thirty prescription pills, and uh, 916 00:51:03,814 --> 00:51:07,662 I didn't die, but I knew I wanted out, bad, 917 00:51:07,664 --> 00:51:12,008 and I remember crying to God, drunk off my ass on Jack Daniels, 918 00:51:12,010 --> 00:51:15,322 thinking if you get me outta this I'll serve you with my whole life 919 00:51:15,324 --> 00:51:18,282 I swear to god I'll do whatever you want! Just get me outta this. 920 00:51:19,403 --> 00:51:21,012 I mean, people who are well adjusted 921 00:51:21,014 --> 00:51:23,809 and have good life skills and who are doing something 922 00:51:23,811 --> 00:51:26,129 meaningful and constructive with their lives, 923 00:51:26,131 --> 00:51:28,793 they're not in the industry to begin with so, 924 00:51:28,795 --> 00:51:32,615 the people who are in the industry are really broken twisted souls 925 00:51:32,631 --> 00:51:37,442 without a lot of great job skills and uh, you know they're turbulent souls. 926 00:51:37,447 --> 00:51:41,079 So, they're always gonna be twisting and turning in the wind. 927 00:51:41,190 --> 00:51:43,056 We'd spent a lot of time in church. 928 00:51:43,058 --> 00:51:47,858 I actually convinced my mom to send me to Christian School when I was 14, 929 00:51:47,860 --> 00:51:51,070 she found a way to gather up the funds, 930 00:51:51,072 --> 00:51:56,909 and I went and I was very involved in my church, without her. 931 00:51:57,193 --> 00:51:59,845 You know, it was just, it was me and my friends and that was how 932 00:52:00,501 --> 00:52:05,377 I grew up and you know, that all changed when I was sixteen. 933 00:52:06,090 --> 00:52:11,101 I spent the night at a girlfriend's house, and she, was a teenaged mom, and married, 934 00:52:11,103 --> 00:52:15,682 and her husband, drugged me. With acid. 935 00:52:16,174 --> 00:52:19,623 And I... At that time I had, I hadn't even stayed up past ten. 936 00:52:19,625 --> 00:52:22,996 So, uh, I didn't, I wasn't really well versed in the drug world. 937 00:52:23,344 --> 00:52:25,999 And that changed everything for me. 938 00:52:26,289 --> 00:52:28,474 I did the best I could to graduate high school 939 00:52:28,476 --> 00:52:30,566 as fast as I could and, and move out. 940 00:52:30,568 --> 00:52:32,277 I was outta the house by seventeen. 941 00:52:32,279 --> 00:52:34,296 I knew some people in the adult industry 942 00:52:34,298 --> 00:52:36,893 and I hung out with them and I'm still friends with them now, 943 00:52:36,895 --> 00:52:38,825 I don't blame them for hanging out with me 944 00:52:38,827 --> 00:52:40,981 when I was young cause they were young too, so... 945 00:52:41,451 --> 00:52:46,921 Met a few porn stars, and, just... Fell in love with them. 946 00:52:46,963 --> 00:52:51,949 I hung out with them until I was over eighteen, did my first movie, 947 00:52:51,951 --> 00:52:55,796 and, you know, it was on from there. 948 00:52:55,798 --> 00:52:58,533 Well, the first year that I was in the adult industry, 949 00:52:58,535 --> 00:53:02,536 and was doing movies I worked for every company under the sun. 950 00:53:02,538 --> 00:53:05,385 You know the dirtiest of the dirtiest kinds of companies, 951 00:53:05,387 --> 00:53:07,252 that do crazy stuff. 952 00:53:07,254 --> 00:53:12,104 I worked for anybody, I could, to make a buck. 953 00:53:12,106 --> 00:53:15,638 I told my mom and she flipped out. 954 00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:20,444 She wasn't happy about it but eventually when I, you know, formed a career, 955 00:53:20,647 --> 00:53:23,812 and I signed with Vivid, and the pictures were prettier, 956 00:53:23,814 --> 00:53:28,207 and the footage was less disgusting, ha ha ha ha! 957 00:53:29,626 --> 00:53:32,637 Um, she came to terms and you know, 958 00:53:32,864 --> 00:53:35,202 what's she gonna do? It is what it is. 959 00:53:36,421 --> 00:53:38,961 Being a Vivid girl is, you know, 960 00:53:38,963 --> 00:53:43,013 it's what every adult industry actress wants to be. 961 00:53:43,015 --> 00:53:48,140 You know Vivid's the biggest best and most well-known company in the world. 962 00:53:48,518 --> 00:53:51,681 They have the most beautiful girls, they have the best photographers. 963 00:53:51,683 --> 00:53:53,703 Um, they have the best press. 964 00:53:54,145 --> 00:53:59,618 And,..., it's yeah, it's, it's a high class slew of girls. 965 00:53:59,880 --> 00:54:03,124 I would think... I mean, of course you know, it's as high class as it's gonna get. 966 00:54:05,042 --> 00:54:08,249 Um, it's a steady income, so I don't know if 967 00:54:08,251 --> 00:54:11,046 I necessarily thought I was better than anybody else, 968 00:54:11,048 --> 00:54:13,739 but I knew I was getting the press that I wanted, 969 00:54:13,741 --> 00:54:17,635 so, I was happy. You know. 970 00:54:17,637 --> 00:54:21,623 I took my movies very seriously. I studied my scripts. 971 00:54:22,831 --> 00:54:25,462 Half the time I wasn't stoned, when I did the dialogue 972 00:54:25,757 --> 00:54:29,070 but I took my acting very seriously because it was the only time 973 00:54:29,072 --> 00:54:31,120 I was ever gonna get to do any acting. 974 00:54:31,122 --> 00:54:35,003 So, I took it seriously! And I loved it! 975 00:54:35,481 --> 00:54:39,404 And um, I thought I was good at it but, you know... 976 00:54:39,406 --> 00:54:42,716 It just sounds so cliche for me to say 977 00:54:42,718 --> 00:54:45,550 I took the acting in my porno movie seriously. 978 00:54:45,552 --> 00:54:46,965 But, but I did. 979 00:54:46,967 --> 00:54:49,943 And that was my favorite part, was the acting. 980 00:54:51,775 --> 00:54:53,767 And sometimes the sex. 981 00:54:57,512 --> 00:54:59,777 You can use drugs and party and drink, 982 00:54:59,779 --> 00:55:02,905 no matter what career choice you have, but, 983 00:55:03,777 --> 00:55:08,778 , yes, you're opened up to the party lifestyle a lot more. 984 00:55:08,825 --> 00:55:10,521 I mean, you hang out with rockstars, you, 985 00:55:10,523 --> 00:55:14,204 you know there's always porn parties to go to, um... 986 00:55:15,799 --> 00:55:22,131 Me, struggling as an addict, of course took advantage of everything that was there 987 00:55:22,133 --> 00:55:27,198 you know, all of the alcohol, all of... all of the drugs, I did 'em all! 988 00:55:29,519 --> 00:55:34,240 Um... It's not a safe business to be in if you wanna stay clean. 989 00:55:35,935 --> 00:55:37,241 It's not safe. 990 00:55:38,497 --> 00:55:41,677 Um, and I'm not telling you this to make you feel sorry for me or anything 991 00:55:41,679 --> 00:55:43,810 but I had an extremely tough childhood, 992 00:55:43,812 --> 00:55:46,570 and um, I think I got very lost for many years. 993 00:55:46,608 --> 00:55:50,103 Um, I didn't know who I was, like many people. 994 00:55:50,658 --> 00:55:55,301 Um, I had a very warped understanding of what love was. 995 00:55:56,137 --> 00:56:01,091 And um, I think because of a lack of love in my life or a, 996 00:56:01,093 --> 00:56:03,848 an inability to determine what love really is 997 00:56:04,288 --> 00:56:08,187 I saw sexual attention, as love. 998 00:56:08,189 --> 00:56:10,806 And when you've suffered a lot of sexual abuse in your life 999 00:56:10,808 --> 00:56:13,387 it's understandable I think why you would feel that way. 1000 00:56:14,394 --> 00:56:18,630 Trying to tell you... at what point I made the decision 1001 00:56:18,632 --> 00:56:21,661 to be Tiffany Million is not something I could answer really 1002 00:56:21,663 --> 00:56:25,334 in just one neat sentence. It's kind of a combination of things. 1003 00:56:25,980 --> 00:56:31,015 Essentially the whole reason that I even got into that business 1004 00:56:31,136 --> 00:56:35,467 to begin with was because I was a single mother, like many people, and um, 1005 00:56:35,469 --> 00:56:40,964 I was living in Southern California, I had no family, 1006 00:56:40,964 --> 00:56:44,391 I didn't know that many people, her father wasn't helping me with her, 1007 00:56:44,484 --> 00:56:47,125 and it was pretty scary being a single parent honestly, 1008 00:56:47,129 --> 00:56:50,173 and so, I mean I figured, you know I had a choice: 1009 00:56:50,540 --> 00:56:52,408 I could work eight hours a day, 1010 00:56:52,696 --> 00:56:55,649 and commute an hour or two each way on the freeway, 1011 00:56:55,854 --> 00:57:00,726 to make, seven eight dollars an hour, only to pay out half of that in taxes, 1012 00:57:00,728 --> 00:57:05,288 and child care, and my daughter's with you know heaven knows who during the day, 1013 00:57:05,290 --> 00:57:09,040 or I could re-enter the adult entertainment industry 1014 00:57:09,042 --> 00:57:10,717 'cause I'd been a stripper years before. 1015 00:57:10,773 --> 00:57:14,228 And then I thought, cause I'd always been kind of a fan of adult films, 1016 00:57:14,290 --> 00:57:18,758 and I'd so many times I had looked at those movies and uh, I'd thought 1017 00:57:18,782 --> 00:57:21,500 man, you know what I could do that and I could do it better. 1018 00:57:21,536 --> 00:57:24,083 You know. And so I thought well heck, why not? 1019 00:57:24,085 --> 00:57:25,973 I mean I didn't have a man in my life anymore, 1020 00:57:25,975 --> 00:57:28,637 I left her father, and uh, I definitely needed the money, 1021 00:57:28,639 --> 00:57:31,141 but really it just afforded me a way to, 1022 00:57:31,143 --> 00:57:35,021 work as little as possible to get as much money as I could 1023 00:57:35,023 --> 00:57:37,280 to be with my daughter cause that's all I really wanted 1024 00:57:37,445 --> 00:57:39,515 I wanted my daughter to have a great life, 1025 00:57:39,517 --> 00:57:41,921 and a safe home, in a good neighborhood, 1026 00:57:41,923 --> 00:57:45,200 with good childcare, and I wanted to spend as much time with her as I could. 1027 00:57:45,407 --> 00:57:49,388 And working in the adult film industry allowed me to work a day or two a week 1028 00:57:49,704 --> 00:57:52,672 and be with my daughter the rest of the week and make more money 1029 00:57:52,674 --> 00:57:55,868 than people than worked, you know, five days a week, eight hours a day. 1030 00:57:55,870 --> 00:57:58,303 What you do in porn films is not sex. 1031 00:57:58,373 --> 00:58:01,254 I mean I know you're being penetrated, but it's like this, you know. 1032 00:58:01,256 --> 00:58:03,250 It's like this. I mean that's what it feels like. 1033 00:58:03,252 --> 00:58:07,767 It's just something occupying um, a chasm in your body. 1034 00:58:07,769 --> 00:58:10,048 Really... It's like this. 1035 00:58:10,050 --> 00:58:12,234 It's like this that's what it might as well be. 1036 00:58:12,236 --> 00:58:16,214 Uh, there uh, there's no emotion there, there's no feeling, um, you know, 1037 00:58:16,216 --> 00:58:18,677 you know, I gotta tell you this funny little story! 1038 00:58:19,349 --> 00:58:21,866 I would have so many fans come up to me at autograph signings 1039 00:58:21,868 --> 00:58:24,288 whatever and tell me that I was their favorite porn star, 1040 00:58:24,378 --> 00:58:27,869 because all the other girls were faking it and I was the one that they knew, 1041 00:58:27,871 --> 00:58:30,056 man, that I was for real. 1042 00:58:30,083 --> 00:58:34,143 And uh, and I can tell when a woman's faking it and I'd be laughing! 1043 00:58:34,145 --> 00:58:36,541 Watch my face. Watch my face. 1044 00:58:42,180 --> 00:58:44,023 'Cause I'd be like... 1045 00:58:44,025 --> 00:58:45,923 I'm the biggest damn faker you ever met! 1046 00:58:45,925 --> 00:58:48,548 I mean I'm good, that's why I get paid the big bucks. 1047 00:58:48,550 --> 00:58:50,310 Even when I was in the business, 1048 00:58:50,338 --> 00:58:54,244 I didn't partake of all of the extraneous activities. 1049 00:58:54,340 --> 00:58:57,587 Um, I think I went to several parties only because there was free food and boozes, 1050 00:58:57,590 --> 00:58:59,203 and I would go and I would eat and stuff 1051 00:58:59,250 --> 00:59:02,028 and then everybody would go to the after-parties and I'd be like nah, 1052 00:59:02,030 --> 00:59:03,460 I'm going home and going to bed. 1053 00:59:03,507 --> 00:59:05,372 I've always been early to bed, early to rise. 1054 00:59:05,374 --> 00:59:07,498 I never wanted to be a part of that scene and um, 1055 00:59:07,500 --> 00:59:11,178 even when I was working in the movies I always kinda felt like a fly on the wall. 1056 00:59:11,180 --> 00:59:14,635 Like I know my body was involved, because, obviously, I was there. 1057 00:59:14,655 --> 00:59:18,017 But I always had this strange feeling this real feeling of disconnect. 1058 00:59:18,019 --> 00:59:19,821 Like I was up here looking down. 1059 00:59:19,823 --> 00:59:23,791 When my father died in 94, uh like I said he left me a whole bunch of money, 1060 00:59:23,793 --> 00:59:26,444 and I suddenly realized that I'm free. 1061 00:59:26,659 --> 00:59:30,003 I don't have to be her anymore. And I walked away. And that was it. 1062 00:59:30,825 --> 00:59:33,426 No one puts a gun to anybody's head to do this. 1063 00:59:33,428 --> 00:59:35,432 If you're not warned about what's gonna happen 1064 00:59:35,434 --> 00:59:37,978 then the person who didn't warn you is the person who's guilty 1065 00:59:38,026 --> 00:59:41,774 in that respect, but they're doing it for the one thing that they cannot deny. 1066 00:59:41,776 --> 00:59:46,363 That absolute death-wish, for the recognition, validation, and credibility. 1067 00:59:46,365 --> 00:59:48,800 And they're welcome to it, but eventually 1068 00:59:48,802 --> 00:59:50,684 their past will catch up to them 1069 00:59:50,905 --> 00:59:54,803 and they have to be aware of the fact that X is forever. 1070 00:59:55,563 --> 01:00:00,508 When I got into the business, um, I, did have a goal. 1071 01:00:01,052 --> 01:00:03,086 It was my "cracked out" goal. 1072 01:00:03,088 --> 01:00:06,188 But I did have a goal to, be out, 1073 01:00:06,190 --> 01:00:10,741 and retired, twenty-six, at the latest twenty-seven. 1074 01:00:13,315 --> 01:00:15,465 And I was out, by twenty-four. 1075 01:00:16,616 --> 01:00:21,914 I didn't leave the business because uh, I wanted to. 1076 01:00:21,916 --> 01:00:24,687 I left the business cause I felt I HAD to. 1077 01:00:24,689 --> 01:00:26,663 That it was the right thing to do. 1078 01:00:26,665 --> 01:00:32,244 On November fourth, 1984, was the first headline, 1079 01:00:32,246 --> 01:00:34,385 in the San Francisco Chronicle, 1080 01:00:34,387 --> 01:00:38,223 regarding the heterosexua transmission of AIDS. 1081 01:00:38,225 --> 01:00:41,140 A good friend of mine, who was a mathematician 1082 01:00:41,142 --> 01:00:43,101 had read the same article I did 1083 01:00:43,103 --> 01:00:45,478 and he came over to my house in the afternoon and he said 1084 01:00:45,489 --> 01:00:48,674 "I've done some calculations based on the numbers, 1085 01:00:48,676 --> 01:00:50,400 reported here in the story. 1086 01:00:50,402 --> 01:00:53,378 And you're in the wrong place at the wrong time. 1087 01:00:53,380 --> 01:00:54,877 I want you to stop." 1088 01:00:54,879 --> 01:00:58,139 I had three jobs lined up for December, my wife said I don't want you to do them. 1089 01:00:58,730 --> 01:01:01,346 And my thinking was look, they're just trying to sell newspapers, 1090 01:01:01,750 --> 01:01:05,791 that's what newspapers do, they scare you, and so I don't think the danger is 1091 01:01:05,793 --> 01:01:08,608 that real, and I'm gonna go ahead and do these jobs. 1092 01:01:08,610 --> 01:01:10,695 So I went off and I did the three jobs. 1093 01:01:10,697 --> 01:01:15,481 And when I came home, and we're about to go to bed, that night, she said to me 1094 01:01:15,483 --> 01:01:17,171 "Do you think we should?" 1095 01:01:17,942 --> 01:01:20,408 Should? Should what? Have sex? 1096 01:01:21,152 --> 01:01:23,616 "Yeah, do you think we should have sex?" 1097 01:01:23,987 --> 01:01:26,128 And I said, what are you talking about? 1098 01:01:26,519 --> 01:01:29,651 And she said, and I can quote you verbatim, I remembered this all this time. 1099 01:01:29,653 --> 01:01:32,767 She said "Don't you think it would be prudent, 1100 01:01:32,769 --> 01:01:37,654 if one of us remained alive, to raise the kids?" 1101 01:01:39,500 --> 01:01:41,717 Pchew! 1102 01:01:42,111 --> 01:01:43,982 That was the brick wall. 1103 01:01:44,201 --> 01:01:47,720 Somebody had offered m e a DVD deal, and I... 1104 01:01:47,722 --> 01:01:50,729 I knew CD-ROMS didn't do good, I knew the laser disks didn't do good, 1105 01:01:50,731 --> 01:01:54,408 and I thought, uh, this DVD thing, whatever it is, won't replace video, 1106 01:01:54,452 --> 01:01:57,648 so I signed it without having a lawyer look at it or anything, 1107 01:01:57,650 --> 01:02:01,893 and by the time DVDs started taking over from videos, 1108 01:02:02,040 --> 01:02:05,516 I looked at the contract and found out now they have my DVD rights, 1109 01:02:05,518 --> 01:02:10,150 also had internet rights, and the company wasn't very good. 1110 01:02:11,389 --> 01:02:14,012 And once I realized I wasn't gonna make much money 1111 01:02:14,014 --> 01:02:16,684 I stayed with Evil Angel my distributor, 1112 01:02:16,686 --> 01:02:19,796 for as long as I could, then when they stopped doing videos that was it. 1113 01:02:19,798 --> 01:02:22,477 The ones that do well, are out because they wanna be out, 1114 01:02:22,479 --> 01:02:24,188 not because they had to get out. 1115 01:02:24,190 --> 01:02:27,532 And, they have made their peace with what they did, 1116 01:02:27,534 --> 01:02:32,325 and that shows in their bearing, and the way that they are, in the world. 1117 01:02:32,883 --> 01:02:35,754 The money that I did save up went really quick. 1118 01:02:36,140 --> 01:02:40,139 Um, and then I was just, scraping by. 1119 01:02:40,707 --> 01:02:44,925 And it was, um, it was the Christian community that 1120 01:02:44,927 --> 01:02:47,696 really came alongside me and helped me out. 1121 01:02:47,698 --> 01:02:50,877 There would be times when I was, didn't know how I was gonna pay my rent, 1122 01:02:50,893 --> 01:02:54,806 and, somebody, it was just people I don't even know, 1123 01:02:54,808 --> 01:02:58,226 just people who've read my story, who wanted to help. 1124 01:02:58,531 --> 01:03:02,046 When I left the business I sold my house in Los Angeles, 1125 01:03:03,911 --> 01:03:10,456 um, I first-I retired, and then, um, I decided, I need to get out of L.A. 1126 01:03:10,601 --> 01:03:12,754 I needed to get out of L.A. 1127 01:03:12,806 --> 01:03:18,150 I mean, everywhere I went, McDonalds drive-thru, 1128 01:03:18,579 --> 01:03:21,681 um, nightclubs, the movie theatre, the park, 1129 01:03:21,683 --> 01:03:25,168 Universal Studios, I mean, you name it, 1130 01:03:25,170 --> 01:03:27,773 I could not, go anywhere. 1131 01:03:27,840 --> 01:03:30,433 I..., I don't know how these big celebrities deal with it all. 1132 01:03:30,435 --> 01:03:32,835 I mean they must ha... They have to have bodyguards of course 1133 01:03:32,874 --> 01:03:37,986 and stuff like that cause I did not have bodyguards and I could not handle it. 1134 01:03:37,988 --> 01:03:41,024 It's impossible to lead a normal life after you get out of it. 1135 01:03:41,026 --> 01:03:43,591 This is forever. This is the scarlet letter. 1136 01:03:43,679 --> 01:03:45,918 And it, it never goes away, you'll be dealing with the, 1137 01:03:46,174 --> 01:03:48,784 with the implications of this forever. 1138 01:03:49,897 --> 01:03:52,842 What..., what tends to happen is that it isolates you. 1139 01:03:53,697 --> 01:04:00,848 And so you, develop a, a fear of, being rejected again and again and again 1140 01:04:01,309 --> 01:04:04,107 and so you put up walls between you and other people, 1141 01:04:04,136 --> 01:04:06,788 and you isolate yourself and you don't join communities, 1142 01:04:06,993 --> 01:04:10,976 and, when you're isolated you're less likely to suffer rejection. 1143 01:04:11,271 --> 01:04:13,711 But you're also isolated and living on the edge 1144 01:04:13,713 --> 01:04:17,656 so, um, you can never get away from this, there's no solution. 1145 01:04:18,300 --> 01:04:22,097 To go from being uh, a movie star, 1146 01:04:22,099 --> 01:04:28,541 to zippo the pinhead overnight, was just like, devastating to my ego. 1147 01:04:29,213 --> 01:04:32,153 If you're looking for a long career in the porn business 1148 01:04:32,155 --> 01:04:34,026 you're probably looking in the wrong place. 1149 01:04:35,345 --> 01:04:40,621 Uh, the average girl, might be good for, two years? 1150 01:04:41,386 --> 01:04:44,212 Two to three years tops for the average girl. 1151 01:04:44,696 --> 01:04:48,435 If you're lucky and you're one of the few superstars, not very many of those, 1152 01:04:48,437 --> 01:04:52,303 okay then you get uh, you know, six seven years. Eight years. 1153 01:04:52,807 --> 01:04:54,766 And if you play your cards right, 1154 01:04:54,768 --> 01:04:56,716 and do your financial thing right, 1155 01:04:56,828 --> 01:04:59,584 then you can, you know, make some money and set yourself up. 1156 01:05:00,693 --> 01:05:02,573 Overall I guess I'm happy I did it. 1157 01:05:02,575 --> 01:05:04,507 I mean the only thing I don't like is that, it, 1158 01:05:04,607 --> 01:05:08,686 the main thing I really wanted to do is act and be in comedies and tv, 1159 01:05:08,774 --> 01:05:10,308 and I feel like it holds me back. 1160 01:05:10,310 --> 01:05:12,479 But I don't know if I would have just stuck 1161 01:05:12,481 --> 01:05:15,369 with the normal route if I would've uh, ended up making it to tv at all, 1162 01:05:15,371 --> 01:05:18,219 who knows I'd probably, maybe still be in Florida going to castings, 1163 01:05:18,221 --> 01:05:20,065 maybe I never would have come out here. 1164 01:05:20,067 --> 01:05:22,190 So, and I've gotten to do a lot of Cinemax movies 1165 01:05:22,192 --> 01:05:24,828 which are really fun too, and all those things I've gotten to do 1166 01:05:24,830 --> 01:05:28,509 because of probably the porn. So overall I guess I'm happy I did it. 1167 01:05:28,687 --> 01:05:32,182 Uh, part of the reason we're here in Utah is because porn is illegal here 1168 01:05:32,184 --> 01:05:35,129 so uh, it really helps keep me from being recognized. 1169 01:05:35,131 --> 01:05:37,600 That and the forty extra pounds I gained! 1170 01:05:37,692 --> 01:05:40,339 But um, now that I'm losing that weight, 1171 01:05:40,667 --> 01:05:43,610 well I also cut off my hair so that helps too. But um. 1172 01:05:44,115 --> 01:05:47,973 Yeah, everyone's been really cool about, when they find out who I am. 1173 01:05:47,975 --> 01:05:51,082 They've been really good about it. When I took Katty to her new daycare 1174 01:05:51,168 --> 01:05:54,238 and they asked, if I had um, reference names for like, 1175 01:05:54,240 --> 01:05:57,273 who to call if something happens to Katty I said I don't know anybody here, 1176 01:05:57,275 --> 01:06:00,398 I have no references, sorry, and she thought that was a little bit suspicious, 1177 01:06:00,417 --> 01:06:02,130 and so she looked me up online, 1178 01:06:02,166 --> 01:06:04,537 I had given her the name Asia Lemon, um, 1179 01:06:05,193 --> 01:06:07,605 and from that name she managed to figure out who I was 1180 01:06:07,898 --> 01:06:10,872 and so the next day she goes, uh, you know I did a little Googling on you. 1181 01:06:10,881 --> 01:06:12,668 And I was like Ugh! 1182 01:06:13,764 --> 01:06:17,544 Miss Mormon Mommy of four who did a little Googling on Asia. 1183 01:06:17,546 --> 01:06:19,600 I was like, so, you still gonna watch my kid? 1184 01:06:20,558 --> 01:06:22,526 Well you know, unfortunately like uh, 1185 01:06:22,528 --> 01:06:26,259 one of the reasons I like... the fact that Vince Neal 1186 01:06:26,261 --> 01:06:28,490 has me playing his charity tournament for his daughter 1187 01:06:28,492 --> 01:06:31,225 for children's cancer and stuff, and I played in the Country uh, 1188 01:06:31,926 --> 01:06:34,927 Academy of Country Music Awards charity tournament this year 1189 01:06:35,283 --> 01:06:38,034 and a few other charity tournaments cause it's one of the only ways, 1190 01:06:38,705 --> 01:06:43,779 that porn people can give to charities, unfortunately in this hypocritical world, 1191 01:06:44,258 --> 01:06:46,777 a lot of charities don't want to accept money 1192 01:06:46,779 --> 01:06:48,721 from people that are in the sex business. 1193 01:06:48,723 --> 01:06:50,865 "Eww, the sex business we can't do that." 1194 01:06:50,867 --> 01:06:54,557 Politicians, on the other hand, who make us look clean as hell, 1195 01:06:54,559 --> 01:06:56,392 no problem taking their money. 1196 01:06:56,795 --> 01:07:00,747 Uh, unscrupulous business men who's ripping everybody off, no problem! 1197 01:07:00,749 --> 01:07:03,082 But because we have a little sex once in a while, naw, 1198 01:07:03,334 --> 01:07:05,733 can't do you and that pissed me off. 1199 01:07:06,094 --> 01:07:09,499 I had one interesting moment in baseball with my son in little league. 1200 01:07:09,501 --> 01:07:11,674 I had told nobody about my career, 1201 01:07:11,676 --> 01:07:16,138 and uh, one day the manager, who was this big black guy 1202 01:07:16,140 --> 01:07:19,450 who was a Stanford graduate, he comes up to me and he goes, 1203 01:07:19,521 --> 01:07:22,376 "Gonna be some trouble today." 1204 01:07:22,720 --> 01:07:24,260 And I said what do you mean? 1205 01:07:24,262 --> 01:07:26,874 He says: - One of the mothers knows who's you are. 1206 01:07:26,876 --> 01:07:28,667 He looks at me and he's says 1207 01:07:28,743 --> 01:07:31,370 "You know I knew who you were the minute you came on the field." 1208 01:07:31,384 --> 01:07:33,110 And he said I'll tell you the truth. He said 1209 01:07:33,114 --> 01:07:37,091 "Anybody that's been in Nina Hartly's booty is okay with me." 1210 01:07:38,370 --> 01:07:41,396 He says "I will take care of this." And he did. 1211 01:07:41,675 --> 01:07:43,683 MENSA's a high IQ society. 1212 01:07:43,685 --> 01:07:47,690 You have to have an IQ in the top two percent, to get in. 1213 01:07:47,692 --> 01:07:50,756 I got in, with a notarized copy of my SAT scores. 1214 01:07:50,758 --> 01:07:53,388 MENSA didn't want link to my website even though 1215 01:07:53,390 --> 01:07:57,206 they linked all the member's websites, because uh, of who I was, and adult star, 1216 01:07:58,784 --> 01:08:00,612 um, so, that was their excuse, 1217 01:08:00,614 --> 01:08:03,391 and so I made them a special little webpage of Asia 1218 01:08:03,393 --> 01:08:06,953 just like, happy Asia, college pictures and smiling Asia 1219 01:08:06,955 --> 01:08:09,242 and, just innocent stuff and it's two pages, 1220 01:08:09,346 --> 01:08:11,835 and that's, so that's where MENSA links to now, 1221 01:08:11,837 --> 01:08:13,264 instead of my regular site. 1222 01:08:13,266 --> 01:08:17,018 And they finally acknowledged me in their MENSA celebrity issue which was, 1223 01:08:17,020 --> 01:08:19,572 a really big moment for me. That was cool. 1224 01:08:20,365 --> 01:08:22,133 Wait, how do you say it? 1225 01:08:22,438 --> 01:08:24,983 Unprecedented? Unprecedented? It sounds weird. Okay. 1226 01:08:26,069 --> 01:08:28,456 I've done something unprecedented that 1227 01:08:28,458 --> 01:08:31,170 nobody else in the adult industry has ever done. 1228 01:08:31,172 --> 01:08:33,861 Um, and that was you know running for Governor of California, 1229 01:08:33,863 --> 01:08:35,136 actually two times. 1230 01:08:35,138 --> 01:08:37,803 And um, it was amazing, when I first started out, 1231 01:08:38,388 --> 01:08:39,632 the owner of my company 1232 01:08:39,634 --> 01:08:42,176 and I thought that it was gonna be just like a little fun joke, 1233 01:08:42,178 --> 01:08:44,611 see if I could get some press, maybe get on the avn.com, 1234 01:08:44,783 --> 01:08:47,188 so when I went down to the courthouse to get my paperwork 1235 01:08:47,190 --> 01:08:49,066 when we said I was gonna do it, 1236 01:08:49,089 --> 01:08:52,522 um, Howard Stern Show sent a camera crew down, Channel 7, Channel 5, 1237 01:08:52,566 --> 01:08:55,075 all the news shows showed up, Associated Press, writers, 1238 01:08:55,077 --> 01:08:57,759 and that's when him and I are like Okay, I gotta get on that ballot 1239 01:08:57,761 --> 01:08:59,228 because this is gonna be huge. 1240 01:08:59,230 --> 01:09:02,446 I'm going to get rid of the car tax and put a tax on breast implants instead. 1241 01:09:03,342 --> 01:09:05,328 I will legalize gay marriage. 1242 01:09:05,330 --> 01:09:08,651 And I will make sure everyone who files for unemployment gets jury duty. 1243 01:09:08,653 --> 01:09:12,292 In other words, California, I'll be a kickass governor, 1244 01:09:12,294 --> 01:09:15,190 so vote for me, Mary Carey, on October 7th. 1245 01:09:15,921 --> 01:09:18,682 I mean, of course, some of my platforms were very tongue in cheek, 1246 01:09:18,684 --> 01:09:21,819 and funny but, you know, when I was getting towards the end of it 1247 01:09:21,821 --> 01:09:24,354 I realized that you know I really wanted to make a difference 1248 01:09:24,422 --> 01:09:27,015 and I felt like I really was making a difference because 1249 01:09:27,063 --> 01:09:29,805 I was getting a lot of people who normally wouldn't follow politics 1250 01:09:29,807 --> 01:09:33,308 to follow, because of me. And um, you know, 1251 01:09:33,310 --> 01:09:34,870 and then I was like what if I win? 1252 01:09:34,872 --> 01:09:37,316 But, you know, coming in tenth place is pretty amazing 1253 01:09:37,318 --> 01:09:38,881 out of a hundred and thirty-two people. 1254 01:09:38,883 --> 01:09:40,640 When I was eighteen years old, um, 1255 01:09:40,642 --> 01:09:43,656 I went to uh, real-estate school, just everything 1256 01:09:43,658 --> 01:09:45,771 about real-estate just I really liked, 1257 01:09:45,773 --> 01:09:49,128 so I figured that I would always, do something with that. 1258 01:09:49,450 --> 01:09:54,607 I was working for a builder, uh, a, a home builder, here, and, 1259 01:09:54,669 --> 01:10:00,375 corporate, came to my community and shut the doors 1260 01:10:00,377 --> 01:10:01,711 and said we need to talk to you. 1261 01:10:01,713 --> 01:10:05,360 Someone recognized you, We know who you are, 1262 01:10:05,629 --> 01:10:11,865 and you are too recognizable and it's a, we're too conservative of a company, 1263 01:10:11,867 --> 01:10:14,021 and we're gonna have to let you go. 1264 01:10:14,023 --> 01:10:16,857 And so that was right before, 1265 01:10:16,859 --> 01:10:19,659 that was a week before I got diagnosed with cancer. 1266 01:10:20,263 --> 01:10:22,158 And the ones that got out of this business 1267 01:10:22,160 --> 01:10:26,305 and now are being blighted by the society that jacked off to them. 1268 01:10:26,539 --> 01:10:29,193 Well the society are the ones that's guilty for that. 1269 01:10:29,195 --> 01:10:32,293 They're damning them for something that gave them pleasure, but they refuse 1270 01:10:32,295 --> 01:10:34,096 to admit that they got the pleasure from them. 1271 01:10:34,097 --> 01:10:36,134 And that's a very very sad state of affairs. 1272 01:10:36,136 --> 01:10:38,561 Now I was starting to direct, 1273 01:10:38,614 --> 01:10:42,550 and I was hired, uh, a couple months later, 1274 01:10:42,552 --> 01:10:44,721 to go to Germany to work. 1275 01:10:44,723 --> 01:10:47,769 I'd make about eight grand or something like that. 1276 01:10:47,771 --> 01:10:49,397 Work eight days or something. 1277 01:10:49,399 --> 01:10:51,690 And I didn't wanna do this any more at this time, 1278 01:10:51,692 --> 01:10:52,998 I didn't wanna do it any more. 1279 01:10:53,000 --> 01:10:56,669 So I left, said goodbye to her, stood in line for two hours, 1280 01:10:56,671 --> 01:11:00,543 and as I'm going I'm saying I don't wanna go, I'm saying to myself I don't wanna go, 1281 01:11:01,250 --> 01:11:05,254 And it just built up and built up until I got, finally got to the point of where, 1282 01:11:06,242 --> 01:11:09,402 "May I help you?" they said, you know, ticket counter, 1283 01:11:09,910 --> 01:11:12,726 I said uh, no, I'm not going. 1284 01:11:12,953 --> 01:11:17,113 I took my bags, I call up Kathleen and I said baby I'm coming home, 1285 01:11:17,115 --> 01:11:19,064 I don't wanna go, I don't wanna go to Europe. 1286 01:11:19,066 --> 01:11:21,756 I'm thinking about the trip and everything, I don't wanna do this, 1287 01:11:21,758 --> 01:11:25,805 I wanna stay home with her. So, that was pretty much the last thing I did. 1288 01:11:26,092 --> 01:11:28,777 Really what got me out of it was my husband. 1289 01:11:29,362 --> 01:11:36,808 Because, when I met Ron, he had no idea who I used to be. Ron loved me, for me. 1290 01:11:36,810 --> 01:11:39,774 And you know he could had a much younger woman, 1291 01:11:39,897 --> 01:11:41,754 he could had a much better looking woman, 1292 01:11:41,756 --> 01:11:43,657 he could had a woman with a lot more money. 1293 01:11:43,659 --> 01:11:45,029 But he fell in love with me. 1294 01:11:45,031 --> 01:11:46,918 He didn't know anything about that part of me. 1295 01:11:46,920 --> 01:11:49,677 And the fact that he accepted me for who I was 1296 01:11:49,784 --> 01:11:51,407 and loved me for who I was... 1297 01:11:54,322 --> 01:11:57,091 Taught me how to love me. Really. 1298 01:11:57,093 --> 01:12:00,962 And his love for me has reconnected me 1299 01:12:00,964 --> 01:12:04,427 with the person that I was before I EVER, did any of this crap. 1300 01:12:05,510 --> 01:12:10,698 All of a sudden Mr. Right came into my life, and I hated him. 1301 01:12:11,083 --> 01:12:12,287 Ha! When I first met him. 1302 01:12:12,364 --> 01:12:14,372 His whole life he was raised in Christian school 1303 01:12:14,374 --> 01:12:17,001 from like, he went to the same school, the same kids 1304 01:12:17,003 --> 01:12:18,871 from like kindergarten to like twelfth grade. 1305 01:12:18,873 --> 01:12:21,751 He was like most valuable player, he did sports, 1306 01:12:21,780 --> 01:12:23,330 his mom had all these trophies. 1307 01:12:23,332 --> 01:12:25,898 She has a book this thick just on newspaper clippings on him. 1308 01:12:26,474 --> 01:12:28,985 So I was like jealous already I hated his guts. 1309 01:12:29,056 --> 01:12:31,716 He would like knock on my door and I would answer 1310 01:12:31,718 --> 01:12:34,399 and go what do you want? and he goes "I'm here to clean your house." 1311 01:12:34,400 --> 01:12:36,141 And I'd be like, what are you doing? 1312 01:12:36,150 --> 01:12:37,978 He goes "You're filthy." 1313 01:12:38,331 --> 01:12:40,875 Like, cause I didn't cook, and I didn't clean 1314 01:12:40,877 --> 01:12:43,041 and I was, and I was, I was falling apart. 1315 01:12:43,043 --> 01:12:45,570 So he literally cleaned my whole house. 1316 01:12:45,572 --> 01:12:49,068 With rags for me, and um, I just stopped working. 1317 01:12:49,284 --> 01:12:51,434 Didn't wanna prostitute anymore and lie anymore 1318 01:12:51,436 --> 01:12:53,502 and we just hit it off and the next thing you know 1319 01:12:53,504 --> 01:12:56,808 we're snorting meth, and next thing you know we're reading the bible together. 1320 01:12:57,023 --> 01:12:59,000 And we're like.... dude! 1321 01:12:59,002 --> 01:13:03,498 Did you see like how like God used Joshua like to conquer all those cities dude. 1322 01:13:03,500 --> 01:13:05,915 And he'd be like... yeah and (inaudible)... 1323 01:13:05,917 --> 01:13:08,284 and like I, I mean we're were just like so into the Bible! 1324 01:13:08,286 --> 01:13:11,502 And we realized that he had went to Christian school 1325 01:13:11,504 --> 01:13:14,174 his whole life and was the pastor's son so he had 1326 01:13:14,176 --> 01:13:16,185 a really great Christian foundation and, 1327 01:13:17,210 --> 01:13:21,488 I didn't as much as him but, he was so sweet 1328 01:13:21,563 --> 01:13:24,406 and he never once pursued me sexually, so, um, 1329 01:13:24,408 --> 01:13:28,663 we ended up getting married on Valentine's Day, 1995. 1330 01:13:29,018 --> 01:13:32,574 I met my husband in a pool, in Hollywood, Florida. 1331 01:13:33,310 --> 01:13:37,930 At the Diplomat Hotel. And he was married at the time 1332 01:13:37,932 --> 01:13:39,676 and I had a boyfriend at the time. 1333 01:13:39,678 --> 01:13:44,818 And, he was in the middle of splitting up and I was kinda done with it. 1334 01:13:44,820 --> 01:13:46,306 Little Trist. 1335 01:13:46,308 --> 01:13:49,450 And, I told him I was in the middle of uh, 1336 01:13:49,452 --> 01:13:53,327 putting a webpage together, and, he said oh okay, 1337 01:13:53,329 --> 01:13:57,856 and, it had to be maybe three months after I got my first website up 1338 01:13:57,858 --> 01:13:59,870 that I got an email from him. 1339 01:13:59,872 --> 01:14:03,575 We went out once, that was it. We haven't been apart since. 1340 01:14:03,577 --> 01:14:07,156 Um, my husband died in a car accident driving home from Las Vegas. 1341 01:14:07,158 --> 01:14:09,858 I had asked him not to do this whole gig actually, 1342 01:14:10,427 --> 01:14:13,505 um, I was eight months pregnant and I didn't want him away from me that long, 1343 01:14:13,733 --> 01:14:17,491 and uh, he's like "I gotta do it honey", but he tried, he cut it down to two days 1344 01:14:17,493 --> 01:14:20,946 so he was really happy coming home on the second day that he was all done with this 1345 01:14:20,948 --> 01:14:23,124 and he came racing home to be with his pregnant wife 1346 01:14:23,126 --> 01:14:25,979 and he flipped the jeep and didn't ever make it home. 1347 01:14:26,647 --> 01:14:30,472 Suddenly he's gone and now here I am, no more income and all these bills to pay 1348 01:14:30,474 --> 01:14:32,522 and it was just like one thing on top of another. 1349 01:14:32,524 --> 01:14:35,088 And so I, I just, I put up a plea on my website 1350 01:14:35,090 --> 01:14:36,888 asking, uh, for donations. 1351 01:14:37,648 --> 01:14:39,048 I didn't know what else to do. 1352 01:14:39,444 --> 01:14:45,571 No insurance, no money, bills, and my fans donated, enormous amounts of money. 1353 01:14:45,573 --> 01:14:48,958 Um, the kids were completely spoiled, they got toys and books and presents 1354 01:14:48,960 --> 01:14:52,370 and stuff with pictures on it and just it was, unbelievable 1355 01:14:52,372 --> 01:14:55,615 it would make me cry all the time I would open all the mail from all these people 1356 01:14:55,617 --> 01:14:58,217 I'd never met and it was just, it was really wonderful having fans 1357 01:14:58,306 --> 01:15:01,104 turn out to help me. Because you know, I'd been online for ten years, 1358 01:15:01,106 --> 01:15:03,263 they'd watched grow up and I'd never asked for anything before 1359 01:15:03,304 --> 01:15:05,343 and here I was I needed help. And they helped me. 1360 01:15:05,411 --> 01:15:08,487 I faced those up and, up and downs many times. 1361 01:15:08,489 --> 01:15:11,231 Certainly with my real-estate practice 1362 01:15:11,233 --> 01:15:13,932 and the market and when the market dropped in real-estate, 1363 01:15:13,934 --> 01:15:18,084 and now that the market and, you know, is dropping all the way across the board 1364 01:15:18,086 --> 01:15:20,791 I mean the country is in crisis. Our whole country is in crisis. 1365 01:15:21,204 --> 01:15:24,930 It would be really easy for me right now, 1366 01:15:24,932 --> 01:15:30,091 to want to reinvestigate, you know, porn. 1367 01:15:30,093 --> 01:15:32,161 I definitely wanna have kids. 1368 01:15:32,163 --> 01:15:34,994 That's something like, I was actually very depressed recently because 1369 01:15:34,996 --> 01:15:37,711 I, I'm realizing that I'm twenty years old and I'm not married 1370 01:15:37,731 --> 01:15:40,233 and I have no kids. And I really want kids. 1371 01:15:40,465 --> 01:15:42,689 And, I'd like to have at least two. Maybe three. 1372 01:15:42,691 --> 01:15:45,457 Because being an only child I always wished I had a brother or sister. 1373 01:15:45,459 --> 01:15:47,247 I still wish I had a brother or sister. 1374 01:15:47,249 --> 01:15:50,551 Like, you know I just, that's something I've always wanted so. 1375 01:15:50,901 --> 01:15:53,245 I have a gorgeous family. 1376 01:15:54,261 --> 01:15:56,577 My son is amazing. He's my angel. 1377 01:15:59,539 --> 01:16:01,752 My daughter is the best thing that ever happened to me. 1378 01:16:01,754 --> 01:16:02,758 She saved my life. 1379 01:16:02,760 --> 01:16:05,214 I want my daughter to have a completely different life. 1380 01:16:05,216 --> 01:16:08,801 I want her to, go to college is number one. 1381 01:16:08,803 --> 01:16:11,013 She's a great student, she's a track star, 1382 01:16:11,015 --> 01:16:14,718 she's had to deal with my porn life. 1383 01:16:14,720 --> 01:16:18,927 She, um, hates it. She's embarrassed of it. 1384 01:16:18,929 --> 01:16:22,571 And, um, she won't let me, she doesn't want me 1385 01:16:22,573 --> 01:16:24,630 to go to her track meets, sh... 1386 01:16:24,632 --> 01:16:27,018 because she feels someone would recognize me. 1387 01:16:27,020 --> 01:16:30,336 We're going to church now, I go to church and I um, 1388 01:16:31,118 --> 01:16:35,138 have a strong faith, and I have changed my life 1389 01:16:36,013 --> 01:16:39,466 and I want for her everything that... 1390 01:16:39,468 --> 01:16:42,428 I, I don't want her to ever have to experience what I experienced. 1391 01:16:42,816 --> 01:16:44,994 In the moment? Thank you! 1392 01:16:46,000 --> 01:16:48,008 For being who you are. 1393 01:16:48,010 --> 01:16:49,948 Cause you're a pretty cool dude. - Oooo! 1394 01:16:50,890 --> 01:16:53,822 Ooo, can I get that in writing?! - Sure! I can give it to you in writing! 1395 01:16:54,621 --> 01:16:56,714 You're welcome. 1396 01:16:57,207 --> 01:16:59,834 It's interesting. I mean, what I'm sitting here thinking is, 1397 01:16:59,879 --> 01:17:02,964 I wonder how many other people out there can have this kind 1398 01:17:02,966 --> 01:17:04,378 of conversation with their parents. 1399 01:17:04,380 --> 01:17:07,643 I mean most people can't sit around and think about their parents having sex, or, 1400 01:17:08,074 --> 01:17:10,698 especially fucking somebody other than their mother. 1401 01:17:10,700 --> 01:17:13,036 I mean that alone would I think irritate a lot of children. 1402 01:17:13,038 --> 01:17:17,660 But, it's very, normalized, in that sex is a goody that should be enjoyed. 1403 01:17:17,662 --> 01:17:20,442 Um, and when you can differentiate between sex 1404 01:17:20,444 --> 01:17:23,727 and love and everything that happens in between, 1405 01:17:23,729 --> 01:17:26,334 um, it's a huge gift that you can give yourself, 1406 01:17:26,336 --> 01:17:29,576 and lovers and partners and friends and family. 1407 01:17:29,578 --> 01:17:33,179 And I'm grateful that that's, that's my world. 1408 01:17:34,668 --> 01:17:35,675 Wow. 1409 01:17:37,235 --> 01:17:38,763 I'm impressed. 1410 01:17:39,903 --> 01:17:44,173 She, is my role model. She is my hero. 1411 01:17:44,705 --> 01:17:47,649 And, I think I learned a lot from my mom. 1412 01:17:48,110 --> 01:17:50,945 She's gone through a lot and I even tell people that 1413 01:17:50,947 --> 01:17:53,201 she's my hero and she's my role model. 1414 01:17:53,203 --> 01:17:55,462 She's just like whatever, I did it for my daughter 1415 01:17:55,464 --> 01:17:58,118 and now she's doing what she wants to she owns her own business, 1416 01:17:58,120 --> 01:18:01,829 and no matter how many people talk down about her she's still does what 1417 01:18:01,831 --> 01:18:06,307 she wants to do and she's successful at it. So, I guess she's just a good example of, 1418 01:18:06,309 --> 01:18:10,124 don't let other people bring you down, just keep doing what you're doing 1419 01:18:10,126 --> 01:18:12,635 and you'll be successful in what you wanna do. 1420 01:18:12,637 --> 01:18:16,274 So. I'm very proud of you! Just so you know that! 1421 01:18:16,276 --> 01:18:18,486 Please don't start crying cause then I'll start crying! 1422 01:18:18,493 --> 01:18:19,637 I'm not gonna cry! 1423 01:18:19,717 --> 01:18:21,109 I will start crying. 1424 01:18:21,354 --> 01:18:23,561 And since my husband died there wasn't a lot 1425 01:18:23,563 --> 01:18:26,131 for me to look forward to so it was kinda nice to have that. 1426 01:18:26,357 --> 01:18:29,831 Mom, your husband died? 1427 01:18:29,833 --> 01:18:34,256 Daddy. Where's Daddy? Where's Daddy? 1428 01:18:34,258 --> 01:18:36,142 Up in the clouds. 1429 01:18:36,144 --> 01:18:38,795 There comes a point in our life when family becomes first, 1430 01:18:38,797 --> 01:18:40,526 the first thing and the question, 1431 01:18:40,829 --> 01:18:45,334 the answer to the question, it just doesn't even take a beat. 1432 01:18:45,336 --> 01:18:46,864 Sometimes... 1433 01:18:49,865 --> 01:18:52,613 And we have the opportunity to see our friends and family. 1434 01:18:52,615 --> 01:18:57,090 I think Chuck would really appreciate, that we're here today. 1435 01:18:58,235 --> 01:19:01,180 There was something uniquely vital about Buck Adams that 1436 01:19:01,462 --> 01:19:03,203 could brighten up the darkest moment, 1437 01:19:03,205 --> 01:19:06,342 and put a grin on the face of the bleakest situation. 1438 01:19:06,344 --> 01:19:10,991 With a body that appeared to be hewn from a granite block of cement, 1439 01:19:11,895 --> 01:19:16,125 and an intensity that provided his fans with a vicarious sustenance, 1440 01:19:16,196 --> 01:19:20,137 Buck Adams will always be remembered as the guy who got it up when it counted. 1441 01:19:20,777 --> 01:19:26,392 You know like I said, if you knew it was gonna happen... 1442 01:19:26,394 --> 01:19:28,582 what would you have said? 1443 01:19:29,878 --> 01:19:32,559 And you don't always get that chance. 1444 01:19:33,832 --> 01:19:38,850 Um, but right now, in my life, I, regret doing porn. 1445 01:19:39,942 --> 01:19:45,066 I regret doing porn and I never thought, 1446 01:19:45,068 --> 01:19:50,886 ever, that I would be, who I became. Houston. 1447 01:19:51,496 --> 01:19:55,908 I never thought I would be so big and so recognizable 1448 01:19:55,910 --> 01:20:00,440 and just, I just never thought that it would turn into what it did, for me. 1449 01:20:00,442 --> 01:20:02,147 And God just says, Shelley, 1450 01:20:02,149 --> 01:20:06,138 I'm telling you, you need to... you need to trust me, 1451 01:20:06,140 --> 01:20:08,416 I've got something better for you. I love you. 1452 01:20:08,418 --> 01:20:13,063 I didn't save your ass all these years not to give you something better. 1453 01:20:13,730 --> 01:20:16,927 Well, like, looking back, I didn't, 1454 01:20:16,929 --> 01:20:20,846 honestly I can't really like go, on my computer and, 1455 01:20:20,848 --> 01:20:23,924 and look at stuff that I used to do anymore 1456 01:20:23,926 --> 01:20:26,791 it just makes me, I just, I'm so different. 1457 01:20:26,793 --> 01:20:29,623 I feel so different now like, where I am in life. 1458 01:20:29,625 --> 01:20:32,974 It's really hard for me to believe that I was that girl. 1459 01:20:33,703 --> 01:20:37,216 So yes, it has changed me. For the better I believe. 1460 01:20:37,218 --> 01:20:41,394 The porn business has afforded me a very comfortable life 1461 01:20:41,396 --> 01:20:45,204 it has allowed me to educate myself in ways that I probably wouldn't 1462 01:20:45,206 --> 01:20:47,143 have been able to do before. 1463 01:20:47,145 --> 01:20:50,064 It's enabled me to travel all over the world and, 1464 01:20:50,066 --> 01:20:52,570 meet new and interesting people. 1465 01:20:53,200 --> 01:20:59,553 And it's allowed me to, have the, have the cajones, if you will, 1466 01:20:59,555 --> 01:21:03,533 to try new and exciting things that I probably wouldn't have done before. 1467 01:21:03,535 --> 01:21:05,108 I would have been afraid to do. 1468 01:21:05,110 --> 01:21:08,439 I have no fear, to do anything. 1469 01:21:08,441 --> 01:21:11,047 You know because as people we have to fully 1470 01:21:11,049 --> 01:21:13,759 and freely accept ourself for everything we are 1471 01:21:13,761 --> 01:21:15,802 and everything we're not cause if we have compar... 1472 01:21:15,804 --> 01:21:20,332 If we compartmentalize, we're never a whole self. 1473 01:21:20,662 --> 01:21:25,013 You know. Especially in like relationships, we don't get to bring our whole self. 1474 01:21:25,758 --> 01:21:29,589 What I am afraid of the most is because I've lasted so long 1475 01:21:29,591 --> 01:21:31,983 and this industry is now heading towards its fourth decade 1476 01:21:31,985 --> 01:21:36,002 of presence on this earth, that the people who created this business, 1477 01:21:36,004 --> 01:21:38,754 the Eric Edwardses, the Jamie Guillesses, 1478 01:21:38,756 --> 01:21:41,694 the John Lesleys, the great pioneers of this business, 1479 01:21:41,696 --> 01:21:43,982 are not gonna be with us, forever, and, 1480 01:21:43,984 --> 01:21:47,473 I'd hoped to be around long enough to honor them 1481 01:21:47,475 --> 01:21:49,842 but I don't wanna do it fast and furiously because 1482 01:21:49,844 --> 01:21:53,536 when they start to fall by the wayside somebody's gonna have to remember them. 1483 01:21:53,538 --> 01:21:56,250 It's based on a line that, "there is no future 1484 01:21:56,252 --> 01:21:59,152 if in the present we fail to pay homage to the past." 1485 01:21:59,154 --> 01:22:02,185 But a lot of them are now in their fifties and sixties, 1486 01:22:02,187 --> 01:22:05,104 some of them in their seventies, and somebody is 1487 01:22:05,106 --> 01:22:07,623 going to have to be there to tell their stories. 1488 01:22:08,018 --> 01:22:10,599 Eventually this woman is gonna like say, 1489 01:22:10,998 --> 01:22:12,653 wwheeeeuuuheehehehuh. 1490 01:22:12,758 --> 01:22:16,238 And then when you're eighty-five and you can't walk no more 1491 01:22:16,294 --> 01:22:18,063 and you're in a wheelchair she's gonna say 1492 01:22:18,065 --> 01:22:20,599 "You remember when you wanted to have sex all day? 1493 01:22:21,100 --> 01:22:24,222 Yeah, what do you mean, you want what? Bap! What do you want? Bap! 1494 01:22:24,539 --> 01:22:26,670 No no no, now I'm getting back at you." 1495 01:22:27,434 --> 01:22:30,054 I miss many things about the business. 1496 01:22:31,403 --> 01:22:36,522 But, I guess the clearest way to say it concisely would be, 1497 01:22:37,155 --> 01:22:39,150 the biblical phrase occurs to me, 1498 01:22:39,152 --> 01:22:41,772 "when I was a child I spake as a child, 1499 01:22:41,774 --> 01:22:44,626 and when I was a man, I put away childish things." 1500 01:22:45,070 --> 01:22:47,268 I'm trying to think of like Joe Nameth. 1501 01:22:47,270 --> 01:22:50,172 Joe, do you miss football? Sure he does. 1502 01:22:50,174 --> 01:22:52,605 But he can't play like he used to play. 1503 01:22:52,607 --> 01:22:57,086 He's, sixty-five years old now. I'm in the same place. 1504 01:22:57,559 --> 01:22:59,620 Am I happy I did porn? Uh, yeah, 1505 01:22:59,622 --> 01:23:02,319 I really don't have too many regrets cause I, 1506 01:23:02,321 --> 01:23:05,066 it's so much stuff came out of it that was positive. 1507 01:23:05,068 --> 01:23:06,904 I got to travel around the world, uh, 1508 01:23:06,906 --> 01:23:08,915 I met a lot of interesting people, 1509 01:23:09,723 --> 01:23:14,529 I'm way over my quota sexually, uh, I think uh, people ask me and I, 1510 01:23:14,531 --> 01:23:18,328 I guess the estimate's, I've been with like 3000 women or something like that, 1511 01:23:18,642 --> 01:23:24,432 most of them were awesome to work with, still friends with a lot of 'em, so uh, 1512 01:23:24,434 --> 01:23:26,723 yeah, overall it was a hell of an experience. 1513 01:23:26,725 --> 01:23:29,128 Essentially I am living my life right now 1514 01:23:29,263 --> 01:23:31,762 the way I wanna live it for the rest of my life, and I wanna, 1515 01:23:31,871 --> 01:23:33,805 I wanna die doing what I'm doing right now. 1516 01:23:34,048 --> 01:23:35,859 How many people can say that? 1517 01:23:35,861 --> 01:23:39,104 Well I am, that I live here and I have a place that I love this much 1518 01:23:39,106 --> 01:23:41,405 I think I'm as lucky as anybody could be on earth. 1519 01:23:41,407 --> 01:23:43,910 Far as, I mean, I dunno what the hell t'ask for. 1520 01:23:45,001 --> 01:23:46,952 I'm happy. 1521 01:23:47,467 --> 01:23:52,863 I'm not in a dark place, I'm not suicidal, I'm not doing drugs. 1522 01:23:53,616 --> 01:23:56,177 You know I'm not self-destructive. 1523 01:23:56,179 --> 01:23:58,984 Um, but the last two years has been a journey, 1524 01:23:58,986 --> 01:24:01,573 cause I was very self-destructive before and, 1525 01:24:02,090 --> 01:24:04,242 I'm not saying it changed overnight, 1526 01:24:04,244 --> 01:24:06,931 I still have self-destructive thoughts, 1527 01:24:07,181 --> 01:24:13,328 but, um, I'm just in an, healthier place all around. 1528 01:24:13,714 --> 01:24:17,099 You hear some people we talk to who are leading normal lives, 1529 01:24:17,113 --> 01:24:19,831 and are doing pretty good, like how the hell would you really know, 1530 01:24:19,833 --> 01:24:23,595 like, how would you know what really goes on in their life at two a.m.? 1531 01:24:23,597 --> 01:24:26,833 The torment, the, you know, how would you know that 1532 01:24:26,835 --> 01:24:30,132 they're gonna tell you about all the times they've been rejected and isolated and, 1533 01:24:30,134 --> 01:24:32,833 and the horror and the shame that, 1534 01:24:32,835 --> 01:24:38,586 that their children confront and that, their spouses confront, and the shame that 1535 01:24:38,588 --> 01:24:40,336 they've put their families through and, 1536 01:24:40,338 --> 01:24:43,420 and the relationships that have been permanently broken. 1537 01:24:43,422 --> 01:24:46,282 I mean all the, all the burned bridges behind them 1538 01:24:46,284 --> 01:24:47,757 because they've done sex work. 1539 01:24:47,759 --> 01:24:50,728 You know most families aren't proud when their daughters become hookers. 1540 01:24:51,062 --> 01:24:56,947 I think the difference between me and the other girls in the industry 1541 01:24:56,949 --> 01:25:03,306 was that I've really, enjoyed being there and um, not just the sex 1542 01:25:03,308 --> 01:25:06,544 I mean I, used it to better myself as a person. 1543 01:25:06,546 --> 01:25:09,410 I never let the industry take advantage of me in any way. 1544 01:25:09,412 --> 01:25:11,536 I always took advantage of the industry. 1545 01:25:11,538 --> 01:25:14,533 I made phenomenal amounts of money I've produced movies, I wrote movies, 1546 01:25:14,535 --> 01:25:17,186 I starred in them, hell people were paying me 1547 01:25:17,188 --> 01:25:19,452 hundreds of dollars an hour to sign autographs? 1548 01:25:19,454 --> 01:25:21,856 Woo hoo! I'm up, I'm with this! 1549 01:25:21,858 --> 01:25:23,559 Um, I just, I-I... 1550 01:25:23,561 --> 01:25:25,673 The other girls leave with a bad taste in their mouth 1551 01:25:26,318 --> 01:25:29,484 and they-and I just, I have nothing but good memories when I look back. 1552 01:25:29,584 --> 01:25:31,434 And right now if I wanted to go back into porn 1553 01:25:31,440 --> 01:25:33,650 I could probably go get a contract almost at any company 1554 01:25:33,686 --> 01:25:35,419 and still just do straight boy-girl scenes. 1555 01:25:35,439 --> 01:25:37,969 And if I really wanted to when I'm 32 if I wanna go back to porn 1556 01:25:37,970 --> 01:25:40,820 and because I'm really broke maybe let's say, hopefully it won't happen, 1557 01:25:40,821 --> 01:25:42,614 I would tell a porn company guess what, 1558 01:25:42,616 --> 01:25:44,593 I'm gonna come back and do two guys and do anal. 1559 01:25:44,595 --> 01:25:46,683 If I'm thirty-five and really poor I need to do porn, 1560 01:25:46,685 --> 01:25:49,384 I'll tell 'em I'll do, you know, a black guy. Heh! 1561 01:25:49,729 --> 01:25:51,534 There isn't that much of a future 1562 01:25:51,536 --> 01:25:54,558 after the x-rated industry because somehow, 1563 01:25:54,560 --> 01:25:56,474 somewhere, somebody will find you. 1564 01:25:56,476 --> 01:25:58,368 The famous line I used to say to anybody 1565 01:25:58,370 --> 01:26:00,537 walking into my office when I ran the biggest agency, 1566 01:26:00,539 --> 01:26:03,629 what are you gonna do ten years from now when your kid brings home a magazine 1567 01:26:03,631 --> 01:26:06,356 with you laying in the middle of it with a candle shoved up your ass? 1568 01:26:06,357 --> 01:26:08,928 You gonna tell'em you were playing the part of a birthday cake? 1569 01:26:08,933 --> 01:26:11,400 It doesn't go away. 1570 01:26:11,476 --> 01:26:14,664 My husband and my son changed my life. 1571 01:26:16,991 --> 01:26:19,026 And my son saved my life. 1572 01:26:21,560 --> 01:26:24,508 And looking at him every day, 1573 01:26:24,968 --> 01:26:28,015 reminds me how precious life is. 1574 01:26:29,420 --> 01:26:33,278 And how throwing it away on drugs and alcohol, 1575 01:26:34,287 --> 01:26:37,609 just this stupid crap that's out there, 1576 01:26:39,008 --> 01:26:41,810 god, it's just so not worth it. You know? 1577 01:30:32,793 --> 01:30:34,793 timings and adaptation: cyanojen 146183

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