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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,319 --> 00:00:03,279 Gardai are still checking on information 2 00:00:03,319 --> 00:00:05,440 supplied by members of the public 3 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:07,319 in response to Garda... ..the search has all 4 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:08,720 the hallmarks of a murder inquiry. 5 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:12,639 ..the family say her disappearance is totally out of character. 6 00:00:12,639 --> 00:00:15,239 This is a story in two parts. 7 00:00:15,279 --> 00:00:17,239 ..to her family, she never arrived... 8 00:00:17,279 --> 00:00:19,079 Throughout the 1990s, 9 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:24,000 a series of young women vanish without a trace. 10 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:26,480 ..the American student Annie McCarrick disappeared... 11 00:00:26,518 --> 00:00:28,400 ..Someone knows... 13 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:34,279 ..Patricia McAuley... ..Mary Cummins... 14 00:00:34,879 --> 00:00:36,639 ..found traces of blood in the house. 15 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:39,918 Now Gardai believe Deirdre Jacob was killed.... 16 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:43,559 If there is no body, then you have no crime scene. 17 00:00:43,598 --> 00:00:46,199 Leaving their families looking for answers. 18 00:00:46,239 --> 00:00:49,360 It's as if she had disappeared into thin air. 19 00:00:50,199 --> 00:00:51,800 In three of the cases, 20 00:00:51,839 --> 00:00:52,918 there were very good suspects. 21 00:00:53,839 --> 00:00:58,040 A false alibi hindered the case greatly. 22 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:03,040 Most of these cases remain unsolved decades later. 23 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:06,519 Raising fresh questions about how they were investigated. 24 00:01:06,599 --> 00:01:08,839 What were they appealing for? She was giving them the information, 25 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:10,400 but nobody came to get it from her. 26 00:01:11,279 --> 00:01:13,879 Is this a missing case, 27 00:01:13,919 --> 00:01:15,559 or is it a murder case? 28 00:01:15,599 --> 00:01:16,599 What else could they have missed? 29 00:01:16,639 --> 00:01:20,760 Today Gardai upgraded the Anna McCarrick case to a murder inquiry. 30 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:26,080 Prompting fears that the same killer may have abducted some of these women. 31 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:31,319 There could be a serial killer roaming Kildare, Dublin, the mountains. 32 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:32,800 Dumping their bodies. 34 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:39,720 Within an area that becomes known as the Vanishing Triangle. 37 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:04,440 It's 1995... 38 00:02:05,879 --> 00:02:10,519 ...and 26-year-old American woman Annie McCarrick has been missing for two years. 39 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:13,680 The student from Long Island in New York went missing... 40 00:02:14,279 --> 00:02:17,519 Annie McCarrick's mother had been due to visit her daughter a few days after she went missing. 41 00:02:21,559 --> 00:02:23,080 Annie was my only child. 42 00:02:26,599 --> 00:02:27,599 Here we are, in merry old Ireland! 43 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:31,599 ANNIE'S VOICE: I really don't wanna leave but, 44 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:32,879 can't wait to see ya at Christmas. 45 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:36,680 My fondest wish would just be to find out what happened to her. 46 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:38,720 Bye, mom! 47 00:02:38,879 --> 00:02:40,319 Annie! Let's go, Annie! 48 00:02:42,879 --> 00:02:45,599 Then in November, another young woman vanishes. 49 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:49,519 Jo Jo Dullard was abducted while hitching a lift... 50 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:54,319 Jo Jo Dullard disappears from Moone, County Kildare in November 1995. 51 00:02:54,559 --> 00:02:57,440 She called a friend at around 11.15pm, 52 00:02:57,480 --> 00:02:59,519 from the Kildare village of Moone. 53 00:02:59,519 --> 00:03:01,800 She was having problems hitching a lift, 54 00:03:01,839 --> 00:03:04,519 but said she would call when she arrived home. 55 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:07,239 Fiona Pender from Tullamore, County Offaly, 56 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:10,720 vanishes in August 1996. 57 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:14,160 At 6 o'clock that morning, 58 00:03:14,199 --> 00:03:16,040 she was in her flat at Church Street in the town, 59 00:03:16,519 --> 00:03:17,599 when her boyfriend left for work. 60 00:03:18,879 --> 00:03:21,760 Six months later in February 1997, 61 00:03:22,199 --> 00:03:24,919 17-year-old Ciara Breen disappears. 62 00:03:25,199 --> 00:03:28,599 Ciara Breen went missing from her home in Bachelor's Walk in Dundalk. 63 00:03:29,559 --> 00:03:33,480 Like Annie McCarrick, all of the women seem to have vanished without a trace. 64 00:03:33,879 --> 00:03:37,319 Then, two more women disappear within months of each other. 65 00:03:38,239 --> 00:03:40,919 Fiona Sinnott disappeared in 1998... 66 00:03:42,519 --> 00:03:46,519 A young mother, Fiona Sinnott from Wexford, vanishes in February 1998. 67 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:51,040 Fiona went out socialising with friends in a pub in Broadway in County Wexford. 68 00:03:51,599 --> 00:03:54,480 She then walked home and was last reported, seen at her house the next day, 69 00:03:54,519 --> 00:03:56,080 but hasn't been seen since. 70 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:01,519 Five months later, 18-year-old Deirdre Jacob is snatched outside her home, 71 00:04:01,559 --> 00:04:03,480 near Newbridge in County Kildare. 72 00:04:03,519 --> 00:04:05,720 After visiting a local bank, 73 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:09,440 she was walking towards her home on the outskirts of the town. 74 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:11,839 The Gardai now say they're concerned about her whereabouts. 75 00:04:13,879 --> 00:04:16,040 The disappearances of these six women, 76 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:18,160 within a so-called 'Murder Triangle', 77 00:04:18,199 --> 00:04:20,559 stretching from Dundalk in the North, to Wexford in the South, 78 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:24,599 and across to Tullamore in the Midlands, 79 00:04:25,319 --> 00:04:26,760 provokes a public outcry. 80 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:30,480 WOMAN: It actually scares you to think that somebody can actually go missing. 81 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:32,480 Just like that. 82 00:04:32,519 --> 00:04:33,760 WOMAN: It's a mystery anyway. 83 00:04:34,639 --> 00:04:37,400 And how it's going to be solved, I do not know. 84 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:43,680 Between 1996 and 1998, there's a noticeable change in peoples' attitudes towards, 85 00:04:43,919 --> 00:04:45,639 walking the streets at night, 86 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:47,720 thumbing lifts and things like that. 87 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:51,279 There's a certain fear and panic, felt by the public at large. 88 00:04:51,319 --> 00:04:55,480 Because they thought...'was there a serial killer out there targetting, 89 00:04:55,519 --> 00:04:56,519 'lone females?' 90 00:04:57,440 --> 00:04:58,440 # 91 00:04:58,599 --> 00:05:00,599 This is quite extraordinary that, 92 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:05,199 there could be, a serial killer operating in Ireland, 93 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:07,238 who is...killing women, 94 00:05:08,199 --> 00:05:09,559 and dumping their bodies. 95 00:05:13,519 --> 00:05:15,400 With no body and no crime scene, 96 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:18,040 the disappearances of all six women, 97 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:20,680 are officially classified as missing person cases. 98 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:26,400 At that stage, missing persons are treated as a local investigation. 99 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:28,919 It'd be then up to the local Superintendent, 100 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:32,160 to increase the manpower that's involved in the investigation, 101 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:35,800 or maybe to bring in outside assistance to help with the investigation. 102 00:05:38,639 --> 00:05:42,319 Amid mounting public concern the Garda authorities decide to act. 103 00:05:43,199 --> 00:05:44,199 We must assume, 104 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:47,519 as police investigators that they're dead. 105 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:50,279 And I'm sorry to have to say that, but we have to face reality. 106 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:54,559 In October 1998, Commissioner Pat Byrne, 107 00:05:55,519 --> 00:05:58,080 announces the establishment of Operation Trace. 108 00:05:59,519 --> 00:06:00,519 For the first time, 109 00:06:00,559 --> 00:06:03,080 local investigations into the missing women, 110 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:05,559 will be examined by a single national team. 111 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:11,519 We included six missing women, 112 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:13,599 which were Annie McCarrick, 113 00:06:13,919 --> 00:06:14,919 Fiona Pender, 114 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:18,160 Jo Jo Dullard, 115 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:21,160 Fiona Sinnott, 116 00:06:22,879 --> 00:06:23,879 Ciara Breen, 117 00:06:25,319 --> 00:06:26,360 and Deirdre Jacob. 118 00:06:28,319 --> 00:06:31,319 The idea was to establish, was there a common link. 119 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:34,120 The team will also look at the records of people 120 00:06:34,238 --> 00:06:37,360 who have shown serious sexual violence against women. 121 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:41,559 The investigation invariably puts people like that under the microscope. 122 00:06:43,519 --> 00:06:48,879 This man, Assistant Commissioner Tony Hickey, is hand-picked to lead the Operation Trace team. 123 00:06:50,519 --> 00:06:52,760 We tried to learn from what was being done in other countries. 124 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:57,360 And at a very early stage, I selected half a dozen people. 125 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:00,800 An inspector, couple of sergeants, 126 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:02,040 couple of detectives. 127 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:04,400 I had known them, they all had pretty good track records. 128 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:07,839 They were all conscientious investigators. 129 00:07:08,519 --> 00:07:09,519 # 130 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:13,080 One of those experienced detectives, is Alan Bailey. 131 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:20,000 It was unique in that it was the first operation within the state that was set up specifically, 132 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:22,919 to target six specific crimes, 133 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:26,760 to see if we were dealing with a serial killer. 134 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:30,519 So you come in with a fresh pair of eyes. 135 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:33,800 We had an open mind when we started. 136 00:07:33,839 --> 00:07:37,680 There was research done into the whole background of the victims, 137 00:07:37,919 --> 00:07:40,199 and we looked at geographical profiling. 138 00:07:42,879 --> 00:07:45,279 We also did a system called victimology, 139 00:07:45,319 --> 00:07:48,319 as in, did they share a boyfriend, did they share a school and things like that. 140 00:07:48,599 --> 00:07:50,879 All these things were pieced together, 141 00:07:50,919 --> 00:07:53,120 if we're looking for a serial killer. 142 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:55,040 We have no bodies at this stage. 143 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:59,160 We've no crime scene, which is extraordinary, makes it extraordinarily difficult. 144 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:02,120 With Operation Trace, in many respects, 145 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:05,040 we didn't even have proof that a crime had been committed. 146 00:08:07,639 --> 00:08:13,839 But Operation Trace has no powers to critically examine how local Gardai initially investigated the cases. 147 00:08:15,559 --> 00:08:17,160 With Operation Trace, we had to be very careful, 148 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:21,480 not to give the impression that we were there to criticise the initial investigation. 149 00:08:22,279 --> 00:08:24,440 Code named Operation Trace, 150 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:26,800 they will be Gardai who had not worked on the investigations, 151 00:08:26,839 --> 00:08:28,559 so that they could take a fresh look at them. 152 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:30,879 We did find some pushback, 153 00:08:30,919 --> 00:08:33,360 to be told our role wasn't investigative. 154 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:36,279 We found that to be...rather frustrating because, 155 00:08:36,319 --> 00:08:39,919 on the one hand, here we are with an overview of all six cases. 156 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:42,360 We felt best placed, to comment on them, 157 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:46,360 and maybe to highlight aspects of the investigation. 158 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:54,080 Operation Trace soon expands its remit, to include more cases of missing women. 159 00:08:56,279 --> 00:09:00,040 The aim is to help build a better profile of a potential killer. 160 00:09:01,599 --> 00:09:04,000 Out of necessity, we have broadened it. 161 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:06,239 What we're trying to establish is...is there something there 162 00:09:06,279 --> 00:09:07,599 that we haven't hit on? 163 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:12,360 We were advised that maybe six cases mightn't be enough. 164 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:16,720 # 165 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:20,120 The search has all the hallmarks of a murder enquiry, 166 00:09:20,519 --> 00:09:22,800 but all the Gardai will say officially, 167 00:09:22,839 --> 00:09:25,080 is they are treating the disappearance of Phyllis Murphy, as that of a missing person. 168 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:29,519 One of the cases Operation Trace adds to its list, 169 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:31,440 stretches back almost 20 years. 170 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:35,760 Phyllis vanished after leaving the home of her friend. 171 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:37,839 Phyllis was one of eleven. 172 00:09:37,879 --> 00:09:39,040 She was very quiet. 173 00:09:40,519 --> 00:09:41,639 Very sensible girl. 174 00:09:42,279 --> 00:09:43,760 She loved life, she loved children. 175 00:09:44,279 --> 00:09:46,599 She always said she'd love to be a children's nurse. 176 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:48,839 Phyllis worked in the Curragh Knitwear factory... 177 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:53,040 She worked in the factory as a cutter, and she loved the job. 178 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:55,480 Very loyal person. 179 00:09:55,839 --> 00:09:58,000 She'd called here to see her work mate Barbara, 180 00:09:58,040 --> 00:09:59,559 to arrange to go to a dance later that night. 181 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:02,120 She left the house, 182 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:03,879 and walked up to the bus stop. 183 00:10:03,919 --> 00:10:06,800 In 1979, Phyllis Murphy was standing at bus stop, 184 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:10,279 outside the Keadeen Hotel in Newbridge. 185 00:10:10,319 --> 00:10:12,440 She didn't get on the 7 o'clock bus. 186 00:10:12,519 --> 00:10:15,000 She was waiting for a bus, and she obviously got a lift. 187 00:10:16,519 --> 00:10:18,800 Everyone who knew her, makes a point, 188 00:10:18,839 --> 00:10:20,559 she would never have taken a lift from a stranger. 189 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:23,599 So it follows, whoever gave her a lift that night, 190 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:25,360 was known to her. 192 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:35,879 The body was found just before 12 o'clock today, 193 00:10:36,319 --> 00:10:41,519 lying in woodland, about 15 feet from the side of the main Hollywood to Turlough Hill Road, 194 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:43,360 about a mile from Wicklow Gap. 195 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:47,440 A month after Phyllis goes missing, 196 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:49,599 her family get the news they fear most. 197 00:10:52,839 --> 00:10:55,839 She had 25 marks on her body, bruises, 198 00:10:57,080 --> 00:10:58,360 where she'd been hit. 199 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:01,040 # 200 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:06,080 One Guard said that the mark of his boot was still in her head, 201 00:11:06,639 --> 00:11:08,199 where she had been kicked. 202 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:10,120 # 203 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:15,000 To think that someone did that to her, 204 00:11:15,519 --> 00:11:17,800 that was just...that was heartbreaking. 205 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:26,720 About 2,000 people from throughout the county, 206 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:28,040 attended the funeral. 207 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:31,040 The heavy snow too had postponed the search for clues to the girl's killer. 208 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:34,360 Despite the discovery of her body, 209 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:36,879 by 1998 when Operation Trace was established, 210 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:40,239 Phyllis Murphy's murderer remains at large. 211 00:11:41,199 --> 00:11:44,080 Could he be the serial killer Trace is looking for? 212 00:11:50,199 --> 00:11:52,639 The Operation Trace team soon becomes aware, 213 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:54,679 that behind the scenes, this man, 214 00:11:55,599 --> 00:11:59,040 Detective Sergeant Brendan McArdle, of the Technical Bureau, 215 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:03,319 has been examining potential links between the recent missing women cases, 216 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:05,679 and Phyllis Murphy's killing, 20 years earlier. 217 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:12,279 In 1979, when Phyllis Murphy went missing, 218 00:12:14,199 --> 00:12:16,919 I was a uniformed Guard attached to Naas station. 219 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:23,440 I was hopeful if I could get the breakthrough in the Phyllis Murphy case, 220 00:12:24,199 --> 00:12:30,239 that this may have led to establishing the killer for some of the other cases. 221 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:35,760 I could see commonalities between some of the other disappeared, 222 00:12:35,919 --> 00:12:36,919 and this case. 223 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:39,919 Deirdre Jacob went missing in Newbridge, 224 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:43,120 Jo Jo Dullard went missing in Moone. 225 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:46,199 Phyllis Murphy went missing in Newbridge. 226 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:50,760 The three of those locations were in Kildare, 227 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:52,080 which is remarkable. 228 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:57,480 As a forensic expert, McArdle is also aware, 229 00:12:58,239 --> 00:13:02,120 that semen samples taken from Phyllis Murphy's body 20 years earlier, 230 00:13:02,319 --> 00:13:04,160 could in time yield vital clues. 231 00:13:06,519 --> 00:13:10,720 The body had been lying there we believe, from shortly she was abducted, 232 00:13:11,239 --> 00:13:14,400 and she was in a perfect state of preservation. 233 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:21,400 # 234 00:13:22,919 --> 00:13:26,559 A body when it's found, can tell a story of what happened to it, prior to death, 235 00:13:28,319 --> 00:13:29,440 and maybe after death. 236 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:32,239 And as a scientist it's our job to help elaborate that story. 237 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:37,120 This is Dr. Maureen Smith, an expert in DNA profiling, 238 00:13:38,879 --> 00:13:40,720 and a colleague of Brendan McArdle's. 239 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:45,160 He always maintained his interest in the Phyllis Murphy case. 240 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:48,519 It would come up on fairly regular intervals in our conversations, 241 00:13:48,639 --> 00:13:51,639 as to, 'is there anything can be done in this case?' 242 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:59,679 As DNA techniques improve, the two forensic experts begin to wonder, if they might have a trump card. 243 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:06,319 There were over 50 preserved blood samples, from males, that had been taken in the early stages 244 00:14:06,519 --> 00:14:07,720 of the investigation. 245 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:12,559 And the possibility now existed, that for a DNA profile existed, 246 00:14:12,599 --> 00:14:14,919 that where a DNA profile from the semen swabs of Phyllis Murphy, 247 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:17,279 could be compared with the profile from these blood samples. 248 00:14:19,879 --> 00:14:23,080 But to find a match between the semen and blood samples, 249 00:14:23,199 --> 00:14:26,199 McArdle will have to have to deliver them in person, 250 00:14:26,239 --> 00:14:29,360 to a specialist laboratory in England for examination. 251 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:32,760 # 252 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:44,879 I'm travelling through the airport, hopefully to solve a murder. 253 00:14:49,839 --> 00:14:50,839 # 254 00:14:57,599 --> 00:15:00,080 I hold onto this bag, my personal luggage, 255 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:04,480 at no stage did I allow that out of my reach or out of my hands. 256 00:15:09,519 --> 00:15:12,639 But the first batch fails to produce a successful match. 257 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:18,319 He convinces his bosses to allow him bring a second batch over to the UK. 258 00:15:22,559 --> 00:15:24,800 Then, he gets a call he'll never forget. 259 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:30,480 I was based in Carlingford area at Templetown Beach. 260 00:15:31,199 --> 00:15:34,480 And I got a call from the forensic laboratory in the UK, 261 00:15:35,599 --> 00:15:39,800 and they told me that they had identified a suspect from the last batch, 262 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:41,519 that I had delivered. 263 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:45,360 And they told me his name. 264 00:15:45,559 --> 00:15:47,279 I asked him to spell his name and I wrote it down there and then. 265 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:52,080 John Crerar. 266 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:53,760 I was in shock. 267 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:59,360 This was the killer of Phyllis Murphy, after 20 years. 268 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:04,000 McArdle immediately contacts Operation Trace. 269 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:07,519 Brendan McArdle rang me, 270 00:16:07,599 --> 00:16:10,639 and he said 'there's a hit on the Phyllis Murphy case. 271 00:16:13,279 --> 00:16:18,120 Down here, he was one of about 40 or 50 people from whom blood samples were taken. 272 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:21,919 He lived in the locality. 273 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:29,040 Naturally we put his whole movements and everything that we could find out about him, 274 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:32,680 under a microscope, and examined his work records at the time. 275 00:16:33,559 --> 00:16:34,760 But there's a problem. 276 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:39,120 Crerar has a cast iron alibi for the night Phyllis disappeared. 277 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:44,000 If the science contradicts alibi evidence, 278 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:47,599 when the alibi warrants further investigation by the Gardai. 279 00:16:49,199 --> 00:16:53,239 During the initial investigation in 1980, a work colleague told Gardai, 280 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:58,599 that Crerar was at work with him on the evening Phyllis Murphy disappeared. 281 00:16:59,599 --> 00:17:01,519 Armed with the new DNA evidence, 282 00:17:02,559 --> 00:17:04,680 detectives revisit this alibi witness. 283 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:07,919 Alibis, they're as good as the weakest link. 284 00:17:08,519 --> 00:17:13,400 It was a workmate, not knowing what he had done and not suspecting, 285 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:17,680 they probably thought maybe he had slipped off maybe for a few pints coming up to Christmas. 286 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:23,599 The man gave the alibi on the basis, he thought John would have lost the job. 287 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:27,480 And unfortunately for 20 years, that alibi stood firm. 288 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:31,839 With Crerar's alibi broken, the Operation Trace team, 289 00:17:32,319 --> 00:17:33,800 moves quickly. 290 00:17:36,559 --> 00:17:38,480 After he left his place of work, 291 00:17:38,559 --> 00:17:41,080 he was stopped in his car and was arrested. 292 00:17:41,919 --> 00:17:45,559 The one thing he did take with him, was a religious statuette, 293 00:17:45,599 --> 00:17:47,599 and I saw John Crerar bless himself, and pray. 294 00:17:48,879 --> 00:17:52,638 And I said to myself, 'that's a most unusual reaction for a man 295 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:53,839 'who's just been arrested for murder.' 296 00:17:56,239 --> 00:18:00,119 After nearly a quarter of a century after he raped and strangled Phyllis Murphy, 297 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:04,119 John Crerar is tonight beginning a life sentence for her murder. 298 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:07,199 After a four week trial, and with his alibi broken, 299 00:18:07,239 --> 00:18:10,800 in October 2002, John Crerar is found guilty. 300 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:15,040 Convicted by unanimous jury verdict, 301 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:16,680 he always denied the charge, 302 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:19,000 and called the compelling DNA evidence, 303 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:20,519 'absolutely impossible'. 304 00:18:23,279 --> 00:18:24,839 For Phyllis Murphy's family, 305 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:28,480 the realisation she had been killed by someone known to her, 306 00:18:28,519 --> 00:18:29,519 is shocking. 307 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:34,239 He was a local man, 308 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:35,800 lived in the town here. 309 00:18:36,519 --> 00:18:38,400 We knew him, he knew the family. 310 00:18:38,839 --> 00:18:40,839 Two of my sisters babysat for him. 311 00:18:40,879 --> 00:18:43,519 John Crerar contradicts evidence... 312 00:18:43,919 --> 00:18:46,199 Only for that man retracted his alibi, 313 00:18:46,519 --> 00:18:48,638 that was the reason John was Crerar got. 314 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:52,480 He did the right thing. 315 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:59,879 Even after 20 years, it's important because, then the family can rest, 316 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:02,919 that they're not looking at everyone, 317 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:08,160 that they're not worrying, is it the person that's walking behind them going up to town. 318 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:10,919 Was it that person that killed their family? 319 00:19:16,319 --> 00:19:19,279 After Crerar's arrest in 1999, 320 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:21,400 the disappearances stop. 321 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:27,440 Might he be the missing link Operation Trace is looking for? 322 00:19:28,199 --> 00:19:31,800 On the face of it, Crerar would have to be a serious suspect. 323 00:19:33,519 --> 00:19:37,879 He wasn't 100 miles away from what we had thought happened to our missing women. 324 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:42,519 Having said that, despite all the investigations that were done, 325 00:19:42,839 --> 00:19:45,480 and all the background checks, and everything else, 326 00:19:45,599 --> 00:19:48,599 we didn't acquire any evidence to connect Crerar. 327 00:19:53,319 --> 00:19:57,040 While Crerar is in custody, two men out hunting, 328 00:19:57,160 --> 00:19:58,879 stumble upon a terrifying scene. 329 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:06,599 What happens next raises even more questions for Tony Hickey and the Operation Trace team. 330 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:11,000 If Larry Murphy hadn't been caught attempting to kill that woman, 331 00:20:11,279 --> 00:20:13,440 the Gardai would never know about him. 333 00:20:20,638 --> 00:20:23,480 It's February 2000, and Operation Trace 334 00:20:23,519 --> 00:20:26,680 has been up and running for almost 18 months. 335 00:20:27,239 --> 00:20:30,760 John Crerar is tonight beginning a life sentence for murder. 336 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:34,119 Despite some early success assisting in the capture 337 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:37,160 of killer John Crerar, the team is unable to prove 338 00:20:37,199 --> 00:20:38,400 any link between him 339 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:41,359 and the other missing women they're investigating. 340 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:48,599 Then, on a Friday evening in February 2000, 341 00:20:48,638 --> 00:20:53,800 a woman leaving work in Carlow makes her way towards her car. 342 00:20:53,839 --> 00:20:58,359 She heard somebody behind her, turned around, and it was a man... 343 00:20:58,919 --> 00:21:02,599 ..who punched her in the face, she fell backwards into her own car, 344 00:21:02,638 --> 00:21:04,440 he pushed her into the foot well, 345 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:08,599 he got her out of the car, and into his boot. 347 00:21:11,279 --> 00:21:15,760 He drove through Carlow Town with the radio blaring in his car, 348 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,800 to drown out any possible sound, or thoughts, or help. 349 00:21:18,839 --> 00:21:21,440 She saw a child seat in the back of the car. 350 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:25,160 She saw, like this guy is a father probably. This guy has kids. 351 00:21:25,519 --> 00:21:28,599 He told her, the circumstances of his own background, 352 00:21:28,638 --> 00:21:29,879 married with children. 353 00:21:29,919 --> 00:21:32,559 Why would he tell me those things if he's going to let me go? 355 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:38,440 He drove to a wooded area. 356 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:50,319 And then, having repeatedly raped her, he then took a plastic bag. 357 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:53,760 He tried to strangle her, he tried to kill her. 358 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:55,319 He tried to murder her. 360 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:11,800 At was at that stage then, when she was 361 00:22:11,839 --> 00:22:13,839 half in and half out of the boot of his car, 362 00:22:13,879 --> 00:22:15,359 that he was disturbed. 364 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:23,720 Two men out hunting in the woods 365 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:26,599 just happened upon this horrific scene. 367 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:46,080 The woman, terrified, actually tried to get away 368 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:49,400 from the people who were actually her rescuers. 369 00:22:56,040 --> 00:23:00,080 They recognised the man who had done this to her. 370 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:03,599 They gave the Gardai the name Larry Murphy. 371 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:08,879 Larry of course, because of the modus operandi he used 372 00:23:08,919 --> 00:23:11,199 in the abduction and assault, 373 00:23:11,239 --> 00:23:14,480 became a person of interest to the Operation Trace investigation. 374 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:18,599 He ticked a lot of boxes for us, and we went back to school, 375 00:23:18,638 --> 00:23:22,040 to work and all that, just to establish a picture of him 376 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:25,559 and see could we connect him to any of our missing persons. 377 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:30,440 Larry Murphy - he was a jobbing carpenter, 378 00:23:30,559 --> 00:23:33,839 he lived in Baltinglass, he came from a local family there. 379 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:38,440 Was well known. He had a wife, two children, 380 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:44,879 and earned his living driving around Kildare, North Wicklow. 381 00:23:47,638 --> 00:23:50,879 Larry would have known I'd say an awful lot of the area. 382 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:54,599 Spent a lot of time alone in the woods hunting, and... 383 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:57,680 a funny individual, to say the least. 384 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:01,119 He would have been considered to be totally antisocial. 385 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:04,800 If he went into a pub, he drank alone, and nobody mixed with him. 386 00:24:04,839 --> 00:24:07,000 Nobody wanted to be party to him. 388 00:24:08,519 --> 00:24:11,319 Larry attempted to remove himself from the suggestion 389 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:14,239 that he was somebody who stalked and targeted women. 390 00:24:14,279 --> 00:24:15,720 He said it was a random act, 391 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,760 that he just happened to be in the car park at the time, 392 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:20,638 and just happened to see a lone female. 393 00:24:20,879 --> 00:24:22,559 Now we would say that that's 394 00:24:22,599 --> 00:24:24,519 totally at variance with the facts. 395 00:24:26,638 --> 00:24:30,400 And we've no doubt that he had selected the victim with care. 396 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:33,400 He never had any criminal convictions. 397 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:38,279 If Larry Murphy hadn't been caught attempting to kill that woman, 398 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:41,480 the Gardai would never know about him. 399 00:24:41,559 --> 00:24:43,760 Laurence Murphy aged 36 of Woodfield, 400 00:24:44,279 --> 00:24:46,638 Baltinglass County Wicklow pleaded guilty 401 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:49,680 at the Central Criminal Court today to four charges 402 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:51,160 of raping a woman, and one charge 403 00:24:51,279 --> 00:24:53,879 of attempted murder on February the 11th 2000. 404 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:55,800 Mr. Murphy collapsed in court 405 00:24:55,839 --> 00:24:58,519 after he had pleaded guilty to the first four charges. 406 00:25:00,638 --> 00:25:02,800 By the time Larry Murphy is jailed, 407 00:25:02,839 --> 00:25:05,638 the Operation Trace team is unable to uncover 408 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:09,119 any connection between him and the other missing women. 409 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:11,879 But he remains a person of interest. 410 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:17,319 Well from our point of view, and again, it was quite close 411 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:20,680 to where we were operating from and it was in the region concerned. 412 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,638 More or less the centre of what had been called the triangle. 413 00:25:24,239 --> 00:25:26,480 And Larry Murphy on the face of it, 414 00:25:26,519 --> 00:25:28,839 no more than John Crerar at the time, 415 00:25:28,879 --> 00:25:31,160 and Larry Murphy from our point of view, 416 00:25:31,199 --> 00:25:36,319 you had to look at both of them seriously because of what they had done. 417 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:38,160 And what they were capable of. 418 00:25:38,199 --> 00:25:40,279 And their modus operandi. 419 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:46,800 There's no obvious link and you're saying to yourself, 420 00:25:46,839 --> 00:25:50,760 he ticks a lot of boxes. So he was a person of interest. 421 00:25:57,519 --> 00:26:00,879 By this time, Operation Trace has added the disappearance 422 00:26:00,919 --> 00:26:04,599 of another young woman - 22 year old Imelda Keenan - to its list. 423 00:26:08,638 --> 00:26:11,400 Waterford City Centre, 1994. 424 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:14,760 The last time Imelda Keenan was seen was on Lombard Street, 425 00:26:14,839 --> 00:26:16,760 close to her William Street flat. 426 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:22,519 Usually I'm out walking, 427 00:26:22,559 --> 00:26:25,040 and I meet a terrible lot of people coming at me. 428 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:27,279 Looking at me. And I do be thinking deep down, 429 00:26:27,319 --> 00:26:29,519 "That's someone that knows something. 430 00:26:29,519 --> 00:26:30,919 Is that the person I'm looking for?" 431 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:35,839 Detectives hope the can establish potential links between the disappearance, 432 00:26:35,879 --> 00:26:38,638 and the other cases they are investigating. 433 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:44,559 Reviewing the file, Alan Bailey is surprised to learn how her case has been categorised. 434 00:26:45,919 --> 00:26:48,720 It was categorised as a possible suicide. 435 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:52,239 That left the door open that it may not have been, 436 00:26:52,279 --> 00:26:54,839 but I'd be afraid a category like that 437 00:26:54,879 --> 00:26:57,080 could colour the approach to it. 438 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:00,680 But this comes as news to the Keenan family. 439 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:04,599 They say they were not aware of this approach to the case 440 00:27:04,638 --> 00:27:05,720 until now. 441 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:10,359 It leaves them wondering if vital clues may have been missed 442 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:14,359 because the case was not immediately investigated as a possible murder. 443 00:27:15,919 --> 00:27:19,919 Imelda would never ever think of suicide. 444 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:23,400 I don't think Imelda would ever consider that. 446 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:32,239 It is only now after 29 years that Gerry is able to acknowledge publicly for the first time 447 00:27:32,279 --> 00:27:35,519 that he believes his sister met a violent death. 448 00:27:37,519 --> 00:27:39,239 Deep down, 449 00:27:39,279 --> 00:27:43,160 in me own heart, I think that Imelda was murdered in Waterford. 450 00:27:47,879 --> 00:27:49,919 I think Imelda... 451 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,119 knew her murderer. 452 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:57,040 The Keenan family are now looking for answers from the Gardai. 453 00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:00,599 They are also requesting that Imelda's case 454 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:03,199 be upgraded to a full murder inquiry. 455 00:28:05,199 --> 00:28:09,319 Is this a missing case, or is it a murder case? 456 00:28:10,599 --> 00:28:13,839 After 29 years, this has to be a murder case. 457 00:28:13,879 --> 00:28:16,400 We want the Gardai to look into it more for us. 458 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:17,638 Give us peace. 459 00:28:20,279 --> 00:28:23,440 I always believed that there is two or three people here 460 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:26,400 in Waterford City holding back vital information. 461 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:30,279 We want someone to come forward. 462 00:28:30,319 --> 00:28:32,359 Please, and just take us out of this pain. 463 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:38,519 By 2001, the Operation Trace team can find no links between 464 00:28:38,559 --> 00:28:40,639 Imelda Keenan's disappearance, 465 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,080 and the other missing women cases. 466 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:50,519 Despite the Keenan family's questions and concerns, 467 00:28:50,519 --> 00:28:57,080 An Garda Siochana's response is that the case remains listed as a missing person investigation. 469 00:29:08,279 --> 00:29:12,040 The formal Operation Trace lasted for almost three years. 470 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:14,440 And then t'was wound down because 471 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,680 we felt we couldn't go any further than we had gone. 472 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:22,040 We didn't establish any link between all the cases. 473 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,760 We believe that certainly three, 474 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:28,599 there are what would consider good suspects. 475 00:29:31,519 --> 00:29:33,760 The three cases that we are satisfied 476 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,519 that the perpetrator was known to the victim, 477 00:29:36,559 --> 00:29:39,080 were the disappearance of Fiona Sinnott... 478 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,319 News report: Fiona went out socialising with friends 479 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:42,480 in a pub in County Wexford. 480 00:29:42,519 --> 00:29:45,080 Anyone that knows anything, please come forward. 481 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:47,319 It's a long time now. 482 00:29:51,239 --> 00:29:52,800 Do you think there are people out there that do know? 483 00:29:52,839 --> 00:29:54,000 Both: Yep. 484 00:29:54,519 --> 00:29:55,839 ..Ciara Breen... 485 00:29:55,879 --> 00:30:00,160 17 year old Ciara Breen went missing from her home in Dundalk. 486 00:30:00,199 --> 00:30:03,040 I feel in my heart you will come forward. 487 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:04,360 ..and Fiona Pender. 488 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:09,000 Fiona Pender was last seen in her home in Tullamore on the 23rd of August. 489 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:10,919 Fiona was my baby. 490 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:13,519 And I need to find her. 491 00:30:13,559 --> 00:30:17,599 And... she was going to have her own baby as well. 492 00:30:17,639 --> 00:30:21,680 And just, no one needs to find her more than I do. 494 00:30:23,559 --> 00:30:28,480 Operation Trace identifies chief suspects in these three missing cases. 495 00:30:29,319 --> 00:30:32,239 But when the team disbands in 2001, 496 00:30:32,279 --> 00:30:37,599 nobody is charged. In part because the suspects have strong alibis. 497 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:42,919 There's insufficient evidence to bring it to successful prosecution. 498 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:46,760 And simple things like, we had no body, so we had no proof of death. 499 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:52,040 The persons whom had been suspected of involvement had cast iron alibis. 501 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:55,639 News report: A serious crime review team, 502 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:58,400 or a so-called cold case unit has been set up. 503 00:30:58,839 --> 00:31:01,519 After Operation Trace winds down, 504 00:31:01,559 --> 00:31:05,199 a new serious crime review team, or cold case unit, 505 00:31:05,239 --> 00:31:08,480 is established to investigate unsolved crimes. 506 00:31:10,599 --> 00:31:15,040 The cases of Fiona Sinnott and Fiona Pender are upgraded to murder, 507 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:16,720 and suspects arrested. 508 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:21,319 19 years old, Fiona Sinnott... ..five people were arrested under... 509 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,519 But no charges are brought. 510 00:31:23,519 --> 00:31:26,040 Their alibis stand firm. 511 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:27,559 ..two men were released. 512 00:31:27,599 --> 00:31:29,080 ..Ciara Breen, who was just 17 years... 513 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:30,639 ..the man was arrested around eight o'clock 514 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:32,000 this morning in the Dundalk area... 515 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:36,800 The chief suspect in the case of Ciara Breen died in 2017. 516 00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:43,680 But three other cases remain where Gardai can't rule out possible links. 517 00:31:44,279 --> 00:31:47,519 The three cases are that of Annie McCarrick, 518 00:31:47,519 --> 00:31:49,199 Jo Jo Dullard, 519 00:31:49,239 --> 00:31:50,519 and Deirdre Jacob. 520 00:31:50,559 --> 00:31:52,599 Today Larry Murphy walked free after... 521 00:31:52,639 --> 00:31:56,120 Larry Murphy was released from prison in 2010, 522 00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:59,440 having served two thirds of a 15 year sentence. 523 00:32:00,519 --> 00:32:03,599 ..but Murphy did not participate in any of the treatment 524 00:32:03,639 --> 00:32:05,680 provided for sex offenders in prison. 525 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:08,720 In the years that follow, Gardai continue to treat him 526 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,319 as a person of interest in these three cases. 527 00:32:12,279 --> 00:32:15,720 One of the few people who spoke directly to Larry Murphy 528 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,440 about the missing cases is his brother Tom. 529 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:23,319 I asked him had anything to do with the missing women. 530 00:32:24,199 --> 00:32:26,400 I wasn't happy with his answers. 532 00:32:31,559 --> 00:32:33,319 The American student Annie McCarrick 533 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:34,800 disappeared... JoJo Dullard... 534 00:32:34,839 --> 00:32:36,160 She may have got to Enniskerry, and today 535 00:32:36,199 --> 00:32:37,559 they carried out... The disappearance remains 536 00:32:37,559 --> 00:32:39,919 a mystery...Now Gardai believe Deirdre Jacob was killed 537 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:41,800 the day of her disappearance... 539 00:32:43,559 --> 00:32:46,760 Gardai cannot rule out links between the disappearances 540 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:50,519 of three young women, Deirdre Jacob, Jo Jo Dullard, 541 00:32:50,559 --> 00:32:51,800 and Annie McCarrick. 543 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:59,400 In 2016, the Garda cold case unit completes a review 544 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:01,120 of the Deirdre Jacob case, 545 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:05,680 and makes recommendations to Kildare Gardai. 546 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:07,120 The family of Deirdre Jacob 547 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:10,080 have welcomed today's development in which Gardai have... 548 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:12,440 In August 2018, 549 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:16,120 Gardai reclassified the missing case of Deirdre Jacob 550 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:18,559 to a full murder inquiry. 551 00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:21,400 Well, it does change everything. 552 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,559 Because we've always had hope that 553 00:33:23,639 --> 00:33:27,000 Deirdre would come back, and that we would see her again, 554 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:30,559 and all that, and... it has changed all that. 555 00:33:30,559 --> 00:33:33,559 And it's very difficult to hear that. 556 00:33:33,639 --> 00:33:37,040 We will always have, eh, a lot of questions to ask, 557 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:40,720 you know, eh, what happened to Deirdre, why did it happen, 558 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:42,480 you know, and all that. 559 00:33:42,519 --> 00:33:44,559 So we're never going to get closure on that, 560 00:33:44,559 --> 00:33:48,360 but we will know... eh, somewhat more, 561 00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:51,040 of... of what happened, and that's... that's what we're... 562 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:52,199 we're striving for. 563 00:33:53,639 --> 00:33:55,879 The upgrade is on foot of what officers call 564 00:33:55,919 --> 00:34:00,319 "substantial and significant new information." 565 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:02,519 The upgrade meant that a team of detectives 566 00:34:02,559 --> 00:34:06,559 just pored over the whole file, 567 00:34:06,639 --> 00:34:08,319 everything that was in it, 568 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:11,239 you know, reappraising witness statement, the evidence, 569 00:34:11,279 --> 00:34:13,919 all of the CCTV footage that was taken... 570 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:19,080 Larry Murphy was the subject of an investigation 571 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:22,120 into Deirdre Jacob's murder. 572 00:34:24,559 --> 00:34:27,279 In 2011, shortly before I was due to retire 573 00:34:27,319 --> 00:34:30,440 from the Garda Siochana, at a stage when I was in the cold case unit, 574 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:33,360 I was directed to go to Midlands Prison 575 00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:36,760 to speak to a prisoner there, who wanted to talk to the Gardai. 576 00:34:36,919 --> 00:34:40,559 Myself and another Guard went to the prison, 577 00:34:40,559 --> 00:34:44,239 where we met a prisoner who told us that, in his cell, 578 00:34:44,279 --> 00:34:48,279 Larry Murphy admitted to him that he had abducted and killed... 579 00:34:48,319 --> 00:34:50,080 eh, Deirdre Jacob. 580 00:34:51,559 --> 00:34:53,760 He said that she was standing on the side of the road, 581 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:56,160 he struck her, dragged her into his car, 582 00:34:56,199 --> 00:34:58,279 drove away, and then killed her 583 00:34:58,319 --> 00:35:00,000 after that. 584 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:01,639 He actually made a written statement 585 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:03,639 containing that allegation. 586 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:05,480 Whilst I can never say for definite that 587 00:35:05,518 --> 00:35:07,279 he's telling the truth, I can say 588 00:35:07,319 --> 00:35:08,839 that he presented it all to us 589 00:35:08,879 --> 00:35:11,080 as genuine and believable, what he's telling us. 590 00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:14,518 If you look at it, everyone says that he'd quite a lot to lose, 591 00:35:14,559 --> 00:35:17,919 because if the word got out in the prison that he was an informer, 592 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,160 and he's wearing an informer's jacket, 593 00:35:20,199 --> 00:35:22,800 he's going to have a hard time of it in the prison. 594 00:35:22,839 --> 00:35:25,839 But this prisoner's statement on its own 595 00:35:25,879 --> 00:35:30,160 is unlikely to be enough to convince the Director of Public Prosecutions 596 00:35:30,199 --> 00:35:32,040 to charge Larry Murphy. 597 00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:36,080 Detectives believe they need more. 598 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,719 The Jacob family have spent 20 years 599 00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:40,518 hoping for a breakthrough. 600 00:35:40,559 --> 00:35:44,719 Using new techniques, they enhanced CCTV footage 601 00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:47,639 which identifies a man resembling Larry Murphy 602 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:52,239 in Newbridge Post Office around the time that Deirdre Jacob was there. 603 00:35:52,279 --> 00:35:54,919 Gardai now intend to revisit each witness 604 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,319 and aspect of the investigation. 605 00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:01,760 Then, in 2019, a witness comes forward 606 00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,319 with significant new information. 607 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:10,000 This witness was driving a Jeep on the day that Deirdre disappeared, 608 00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:13,160 around 2.30, 3-ish, that sort of time, 609 00:36:13,199 --> 00:36:16,800 and this witness told Gardai that he was driving along, 610 00:36:16,839 --> 00:36:19,760 towards Newbridge, a car was coming towards him, 611 00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:23,559 and from his position in the Jeep, slightly higher up, 612 00:36:23,559 --> 00:36:27,919 he saw a person, eh, in the footwell of the passenger... 613 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:31,719 eh, seat... eh, kind of half in the footwell, 614 00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:35,760 em, and this person was either laughing or crying. 615 00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,279 So Gardai now have three key pieces of evidence, 616 00:36:38,319 --> 00:36:40,400 they have the CCTV footage, 617 00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:43,639 they have the prisoner, and they have the Jeep driver. 618 00:36:44,839 --> 00:36:48,120 Investigators are confident that they now have enough evidence 619 00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:49,719 for a prosecution. 620 00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:53,839 The file that went to the DPP was the first file to go to the DPP 621 00:36:53,879 --> 00:36:57,360 on Larry Murphy, in relation to any of the missing women. 622 00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:00,879 But after reviewing the evidence, 623 00:37:00,919 --> 00:37:04,559 in July 2022, the Director of Public Prosecutions 624 00:37:04,639 --> 00:37:08,319 decides not to charge Larry Murphy. 625 00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:10,040 I'm disappointed with... 626 00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:13,480 that the DPP decided not to prosecute Larry 627 00:37:13,518 --> 00:37:16,919 for the abduction and murder of Deirdre Jacob. 628 00:37:17,319 --> 00:37:19,360 But at a... at a level, as an investigator, 629 00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:22,199 knowing what's required in a court of law, 630 00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:24,680 I'm... I suppose I wasn't that surprised. 631 00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:31,360 Gardai still regard Larry Murphy as a strong suspect 632 00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:33,440 and they're continuing to investigate him. 633 00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:37,839 Larry Murphy's estranged brother Tom 634 00:37:37,879 --> 00:37:42,480 is not surprised that Larry is a person of interest to the Gardai. 635 00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,639 He is shocked by his brother's previous conviction 636 00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:49,559 for abduction, rape and attempted murder. 637 00:37:49,559 --> 00:37:51,719 It seems like something 638 00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:54,160 that was well practised. 639 00:37:54,199 --> 00:37:56,319 And he had done it before. 640 00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:00,839 He was working in Swift's pub in Newbridge 641 00:38:00,879 --> 00:38:03,680 when Deirdre Jacob went missing. 642 00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:07,440 He lived about two mile from Moone, 643 00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:10,160 where Jo Jo Dullard went missing, 644 00:38:11,319 --> 00:38:13,319 and I'm suspicious of it. 645 00:38:14,639 --> 00:38:16,680 25 years after Jo Jo Dullard 646 00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:18,680 disappeared without a trace, 647 00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:21,919 the Gardai today announced they had officially upgraded the case 648 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,440 to a murder investigation. 649 00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:26,760 We have known in our hearts and have accepted 650 00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:28,680 that Jo Jo is not alive. 651 00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:30,879 And... we are hopeful 652 00:38:30,919 --> 00:38:33,839 that the team will be able to move this case along further, 653 00:38:33,879 --> 00:38:35,919 and maybe, please God, 654 00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,480 find answers to our questions. 655 00:38:39,559 --> 00:38:42,719 Josephine Dullard is now six days missing. 656 00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:45,760 From early morning, Gardai were active throughout three counties. 657 00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:48,879 Jo Jo Dullard, she was last seen in Moone, 658 00:38:48,919 --> 00:38:51,120 in a phone box, she was ringing her friend 659 00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:54,760 and she cut short the phone call, telling her friend 660 00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:56,680 "Oh, I've just got a lift," 661 00:38:56,680 --> 00:39:00,400 so... the assumption was that she got into a car with somebody... 662 00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:02,040 The massive search got underway... 663 00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:04,239 The person who gave her a lift has never been traced, 664 00:39:04,279 --> 00:39:06,040 and Jo Jo was never seen again. 666 00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:11,400 What changed then, though, 667 00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:15,680 was that Larry Murphy was now a suspect for the murder 668 00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:19,680 of Deirdre Jacob, which was a few kilometres down the road 669 00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:23,800 from where JoJo Dullard was last seen as well. 670 00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:29,559 Today, Larry Murphy's name remains on the Garda file 671 00:39:29,639 --> 00:39:31,680 as one of a number of persons of interest 672 00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,480 in the Jo Jo Dullard case. 673 00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:37,879 He... is now a free man. 674 00:39:37,919 --> 00:39:40,319 Larry Murphy has never been charged, so 675 00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:44,279 he can never be compelled to talk to Gardai. 676 00:39:44,319 --> 00:39:46,839 The evidence against him is circumstantial, 677 00:39:46,879 --> 00:39:51,080 it's not hard evidence enough to get a prosecution. 678 00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:57,680 Last time I saw Larry was in 2005, in Arbour Hill prison. 679 00:40:00,199 --> 00:40:02,760 I asked him... had he anything to do with 680 00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:05,440 the missing women. 681 00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:09,518 I wasn't happy with his answers... 682 00:40:09,559 --> 00:40:10,680 I wasn't at all happy with them. 683 00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:12,879 I didn't get any answers. 684 00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:17,480 I NEVER want to see him again. 685 00:40:17,518 --> 00:40:21,040 I can't begin to comprehend the suffering 686 00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:24,080 these families are going through. 687 00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:26,160 They get up in the morning 688 00:40:26,199 --> 00:40:27,559 to a house... 689 00:40:27,639 --> 00:40:29,199 their daughter's not there. 690 00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:32,319 They're sitting watching the front door to open for her to walk in. 691 00:40:34,639 --> 00:40:36,440 I have a daughter meself. 692 00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:42,319 I can't begin... to imagine what it's like. 693 00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:43,360 I just can't. 694 00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:51,639 To date, Gardai have no evidence to link Larry Murphy 695 00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:54,760 with the disappearance and murder of Jo Jo Dullard. 697 00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:01,839 The new lines of enquiry 698 00:41:01,879 --> 00:41:04,760 prompted by the upgrade of the Dullard and Jacob cases 699 00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:06,719 to full murder investigations 700 00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:09,360 leave Annie McCarrick's family hopeful. 701 00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:12,120 This morning I'm making a public appeal for information. 702 00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:15,360 I want to speak to any person who had any interaction 703 00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:18,719 with Annie McCarrick on the 26th of March 1993... 704 00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:21,040 In March of this year, 705 00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:22,919 two days before the 30th anniversary 706 00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:24,639 of Annie's disappearance, 707 00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:28,319 the Garda Commissioner agrees to Nancy McCarrick's written request 708 00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:31,480 for an upgrade to the case. 709 00:41:31,518 --> 00:41:34,518 There is a person, or persons, who have information, 710 00:41:34,559 --> 00:41:36,719 who haven't yet spoken to Gardai. 711 00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:42,279 It now has all the resources and powers of a full murder inquiry. 712 00:41:42,319 --> 00:41:45,440 Our great hope at this point in time 713 00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:48,040 that it... it might shine a new light, 714 00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:50,480 you never know, it might prompt someone 715 00:41:50,518 --> 00:41:53,120 to come forward after all these years. 717 00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:00,319 Gardai cannot rule out a possible link 718 00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:03,319 between the cases of Annie McCarrick, Jo Jo Dullard 719 00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:05,199 and Deirdre Jacob. 720 00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:08,000 But they need evidence to connect them. 721 00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:10,080 An international group of scientists, 722 00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:11,879 working on their own initiative, 723 00:42:11,919 --> 00:42:16,080 believe they may be able to help. 724 00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:17,839 It has all the hallmarks, 725 00:42:17,879 --> 00:42:20,400 all the earmarks of a serial killer. 726 00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:22,559 I mean, whoever did this 727 00:42:22,639 --> 00:42:24,919 planned it well, organised it well, 728 00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:26,319 executed it well... 729 00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:29,199 If there's no evidence left behind, 730 00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:31,680 this person took great pains to, uh, 731 00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:34,319 to... to set this whole thing up. 732 00:42:35,518 --> 00:42:38,400 Ken Strange is a former FBI agent 733 00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:41,360 and friend of the McCarrick family. 734 00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:44,719 Uh, Nancy, I wanna introduce you to some of the... 735 00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:47,639 uh, most wonderful people in the world, 736 00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:51,800 they've come out today from far and wide... 737 00:42:51,839 --> 00:42:54,800 I've hitched my wagon to this group of scientists, 738 00:42:54,839 --> 00:42:57,839 we had, um, two college professors, 739 00:42:57,879 --> 00:43:03,120 one was a geophysicist, the other was an expert in taphonomy, 740 00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:06,199 and then, uh, we had a... a world famous 741 00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:09,120 cadaver dog handler, as part of the group. 742 00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:13,239 Based on years of independent research 743 00:43:13,279 --> 00:43:15,000 into the vanishing triangle, 744 00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:18,120 this group has identified a site in County Wicklow 745 00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:22,680 which they say has a hidden underground chamber. 746 00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:24,919 They believe this could be the burial place 747 00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:26,839 for the missing women. 748 00:43:26,879 --> 00:43:30,440 They are seeking the help of the Gardai to search the site. 750 00:43:33,639 --> 00:43:35,400 An Garda Siochana says 751 00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:38,239 it does not comment in advance on specific sites 752 00:43:38,279 --> 00:43:41,680 that may or may not be the subject of forensic search 753 00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:44,400 as part of ongoing investigations. 755 00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:51,680 The Gardai, they're not turning over stones 756 00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:52,919 when they don't need to... to do that, 757 00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:55,239 and that's... that's fine. 758 00:43:55,279 --> 00:43:58,559 But the other thing, and this worries me a little bit, is... 759 00:43:58,559 --> 00:44:02,680 are they employing other tools, forensic tools, 760 00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:05,919 scientific tools, without direct evidence? 761 00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:08,518 Such as a ground radar, 762 00:44:08,559 --> 00:44:11,559 to search for bodies, drones... 763 00:44:11,559 --> 00:44:15,160 Are they enlisting subject matter experts from other countries? 764 00:44:15,199 --> 00:44:18,400 Other police forces, such as the FBI? 766 00:44:33,639 --> 00:44:35,879 There isn't a real thing called a vanishing triangle 767 00:44:35,919 --> 00:44:38,518 into which women step, and some of them will disappear 768 00:44:38,559 --> 00:44:39,919 and vanish without trace. 769 00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:43,319 But what is very real is that women vanished without trace 770 00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:45,518 and their bodies have never been found. 771 00:44:45,559 --> 00:44:47,879 This is quite extraordinary. 772 00:44:47,919 --> 00:44:53,120 I've two words, that I've been using over and over again, 773 00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:55,680 and that's "someone knows". 774 00:44:56,879 --> 00:44:59,239 Someone knows something. Mm. 775 00:44:59,279 --> 00:45:00,639 I don't really want justice, 776 00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:02,080 I want to put her into a grave, 777 00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:03,518 into a final place. 778 00:45:03,559 --> 00:45:05,239 For three decades now, 779 00:45:05,279 --> 00:45:08,559 families of the missing women lost within a murder triangle 780 00:45:08,639 --> 00:45:11,639 have tirelessly appealed for information. 781 00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:16,639 Jo Jo was 21 when she was... We are very concerned about JoJo. 782 00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:18,719 Please let her go! 784 00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:24,000 Fiona Pender was last seen... Fiona was my baby. 785 00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:26,839 And I need to find her. 786 00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:31,919 They believe that someone out there is hiding the truth, 787 00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:35,680 allowing a killer to walk free. 788 00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:40,040 Fiona Sinnott disappeared... Somebody knows where Fiona is. 789 00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:42,000 But we don't. 790 00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:45,400 And 17-year-old Ciara Breen... But if she is lying out there, 791 00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:48,080 please don't leave her lying out there on her own! 792 00:45:49,879 --> 00:45:53,319 Deirdre Jacob was last seen... There is at least one person 793 00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:55,919 who knows what happened to Deirdre and where she is, 794 00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:59,239 and we're begging and asking people out there to help us. 795 00:45:59,279 --> 00:46:02,360 The families have fought tooth and nail 796 00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:04,319 to have it highlighted, to have it investigated, 797 00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:07,120 and I'd say "Don't stop." 798 00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:10,480 Alibis given through loyalty, friendship, fear... 799 00:46:10,518 --> 00:46:13,919 that over the period, over the passage of time, 800 00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:15,559 that all those things change, 801 00:46:15,559 --> 00:46:18,360 and appear... I might be afraid of you today, maybe... 802 00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:20,919 a few year's time, you're not the threat I thought you were, 803 00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:23,120 or maybe you're not the lover I thought you were. 804 00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:25,480 And these loyalties do change. 807 00:46:38,639 --> 00:46:41,879 She happened to have a copy of "The Desiderata" 808 00:46:41,919 --> 00:46:45,559 in her Filofax. 809 00:46:45,639 --> 00:46:49,000 It was something that meant a great deal to her... 810 00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:51,518 certainly for her to carry it with her, 811 00:46:51,559 --> 00:46:55,360 along with her passport, and a few pounds... 813 00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:06,919 "Go placidly amid the noise and haste 814 00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:11,559 "and remember what peace there may be in silence. 815 00:47:11,559 --> 00:47:14,480 "As far as possible, without surrender, 816 00:47:14,518 --> 00:47:17,559 "be on good terms with all persons. 817 00:47:17,559 --> 00:47:22,518 "Speak your truth quietly and clearly; and listen to others, 818 00:47:22,559 --> 00:47:26,040 "even the dull and the ignorant; they too have their story. 819 00:47:27,559 --> 00:47:32,480 "Avoid loud and aggressive persons; they are vexatious to the spirit. 820 00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:38,680 "You are a child of the universe 821 00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:41,680 "no less than the trees and the stars; 822 00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:43,680 "you have a right to be here. 823 00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:46,879 "And whether or not it is clear to you, 824 00:47:46,919 --> 00:47:51,000 "no doubt the universe is unfolding as it should. 825 00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:57,080 "Therefore be at peace with God, whatever you conceive Him to be. 826 00:47:57,120 --> 00:48:00,639 "And whatever your labours and aspirations, 827 00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:05,680 "in the noisy confusion of life, keep peace in your soul. 828 00:48:07,839 --> 00:48:11,639 "With all its sham, drudgery and broken dreams, 829 00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:14,800 "it is still a beautiful world. 830 00:48:14,839 --> 00:48:18,760 "Be careful. Strive to be happy." 832 00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:29,719 That's it. 833 00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:31,719 Mm. 834 00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:36,040 "On the Nature of Daylight"64671

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