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- And distinct honor to introduce the

44th President of the United States of America,

Barack H. Obama.

(cheering)

- Thank you.

(crowd chanting)

Thank you so much.

Vice President Biden, Mr. Chief Justice,

members of the United States Congress,

distinguished guests, and fellow citizens.

Each time we gather to inaugurate a president,

we bear witness to the enduring strength

of our Constitution.

(guitar music)

- [Voiceover] I think there's a lot happening here

in front of our very eyes that

happens to be very positive.

And many people are seeing that themselves.

And the opportunity here,

we are in the midst here of a profoundly

monumental opportunity.

That nobody could have predicted,

that everybody,

I can remember people calling year rush,

what do you think it is that's going to be

the tipping point?

There has to be a tipping point,

at some point people are going to stand up

and say, I've had it, I'm not putting up with it anymore.

I had no idea, I said.

It's unpredictable, who knows

what the future's going to be.

Who knows where the bottom is?

Who knows where the event that

causes people to stand up and say,

screw this, no more,

and reject all this stuff from the left.

We could be witnessing it.

Time will tell.

(rally shouting)

- [Crowd] You believe!

Slavery is ideal!

Women are inferior!

Gays deserve!

We reject homophobia!

We respect free speech!

This is hate speech!

Get off our campus!

- The charges.

You're racist,

- [Crowd] Racist, sexist!

- You're a sexist.

- [Crowd] Douglas Wilson go away!

- And you're anti gay.

(cheering)

Racist, sexist, anti gay, Douglas Wilson go away.

- Right.

And it's stated in such a way as to rhyme.

(cheering)

- Okay, I just want to kind of reiterate

that the idea behind this protest is peace,

if you guys want to get violent,

that's on you, you will probably

get taken out by the police.

Let's make an example of this lovely

sign that just showed up.

We want to stand on the side of love, not war.

Kind of cliche, but let's kind of stay peaceful.

Thank you.

- The story behind me winding up

at Bloomington is a very straightforward one.

I've got some friends there who have,

a pastor of a church who invited,

their women's group invited my wife Nancy

to speak at a lady's retreat that their

church was sponsoring, and Nancy was

happy to go, but one of the things

Nancy and I do is we don't,

Nancy doesn't go often do events by herself,

and so I was tagging along, my friend thought,

well, hey, as long as Doug's here,

let's do an event.

So they put together an event for me to speak

for college outreach sort of thing.

The topic was sexual by design.

And so that was advertised, and then

the intoleristas, as I call them,

got wind of it and they started

to mobilize and, in order to oppose it,

and it turned into what I call a sociological event.

- [Crowd] Sing in the rain, just sing in the rain.

What glorious feeling.

Arms up!

Thumbs up!

- We're at a new time in terms of student

activism, we have groups organizing,

we have individuals active at organizing,

and we have social media, which of course

gives people all sorts of opportunities

to get things together, so it's going

to be a three ring circus tonight.

- Quite honestly, my initial reaction

was, I hope nobody goes to this.

We don't need any more

so called Christian spokespeople

for hate, and that's, everything

I'm reading about him suggests to me

that he's doing all this in the name of religion,

and he's here at the Kinsey Institute,

or the campus where the Kinsey Institute,

dip on Kinsey.

- Kinsey was the original American dirty bird.

He put a, quote on quote, scientific

treatment of sex slash perversion on the map,

he's the one to whom we are indebted

for the apparently immortal figure that

10 percent of the human population

is homosexual, for example.

Kinsey was a scientist, but whose specialty was

wasps, and he got into human sexuality

and published, published the results of

his finding, quote on quote findings,

you have to use quotation marks around everything,

his findings.

A lot of his data was coming from

prisoner, you know, prisoners and

people who were not a representative

sampling of what was actually going on

out in the population.

So what he did is he gave a scientific

veneer to the acceptability of sexual perversion.

(shouting)

- Who Kinsey was, and what he taught,

did you feel that what you experienced at IU,

was indicative, was downstream

of something that you feel he helped create?

- Absolutely.

He helped create the America in which that

behavior that was on display in Bloomington,

was even a possibility.

Without the work of people like Kinsey,

that set of behaviors was an impossibility.

- And how would you define that set of behaviors?

- Lawless, antinomian, the idea that if it feels good,

as countless songs have told us to do,

do it, if it feels good do it.

I am not to allow any authority

from outside me tell me that this

particular sexual pleasure is wrong,

or wrong headed, or demented, or perverted.

If it pleases you, if you like it,

if you're attracted to it, then nothing can be

said against it from outside your

set of nerves, your set of sexual responses.

- He has a right to be here, and I'm very

hopeful that those who are responding

will do so respectfully, but I think he needs

to know there are many people,

including many people who claim to be Christian,

who feel he's very misguided in his teachings.

So, this is my shirt for tonight.

We happen to have a t-shirt display

happening here right now, and I thought

I would wear this.

In part because I think Jesus had a sense of humor

and I think if he were with us tonight,

he'd probably be walking among the students

who are upset about someone who

seems so self righteous and so sure of

himself and his theories, so I'd like

to take a stand from my perspective

on what I think Jesus would be saying about that.

- [Voiceover] So you, are you like the one putting

this whole thing together?

- I hesitate to take credit for it

because I'm so humble.

- [Voiceover] I don't really know if there's

anything out there.

- If you want to call me the leader, you can.

- Ignore religion for the most part.

- I mean, if religion's your thing,

cool, skateboarding's my thing.

- I joke around and I say, like,

I'm a gay man at heart.

- I have a life, and I am born to

live our my life however I see fit,

and then I'm going to die.

- It doesn't make sense to me for people to hate.

- The lifestyle that fundamental Christianity

wants you to lead, in order to

achieve Heaven, is (beep).

- I want someone to like chuck me

in a river and be like, this is what

a body looks like after three weeks in a river.

I think that sounds like, I think that

sounds like super fun.

- You can bet that you're not going to Hell,

and live your life for fun,

or you can bet that you're going to

Heaven afterwards and live a terrible life

and never have sex and never anything fun.

- What do you think they mean by racist,

how do you think they have defined

the term racist?

- A racist is anyone who is winning

an argument with a liberal.

- Now, what does this mean in a secularist society?

What does this mean in a secularist society?

What does it mean for the materialistic atheist,

or for New Age neopagans, and so forth?

- [Man in crowd] Are you (beep) serious?

(applause)

- I have been all day.

So, both of these groups, both of these groups

believe that ultimate reality, ultimate reality,

is infinitely malleable.

Ultimate reality is infinitely malleable.

The materialist believes that matter is eternal,

and that given enough time, anything can turn

into anything else.

In the beginning was an enormous

amount of hydrogen, with lots of potential.

That's what evolution is all about.

You have this Big Bang, you have

an enormous amount of hydrogen,

and this hydrogen can turn, over time,

into sea lions and little yellow canaries

and people and supernovas and so on.

Anything can morph into anything else.

- [Woman in crowd] I hope my son is gay!

(cheering)

- And I hope that Jesus forgives him

just like he does the rest of us.

Okay, I need to ask you to bear with me here,

this is a university, and I'm laying out

the premises of what used to be called an argument.

(laughter)

What I'm saying is premise number one,

is you become like what you worship,

you reflect what you think ultimate reality is.

- Doug's got to be brave to go into that kind of thing.

I mean like I, one of the things,

one of the reasons I don't like to speak in front

of college, most college audiences

is because they're really not going to think,

they're not going to, you know, it's like,

help me out here.

Just think through it.

I mean, there are people who will,

but it's all hyped up emotion, and you just kinda,

and when you're talking on topics say like Doug is,

or like the topics that I'm talking about,

they can get emotional.

Well, there's two responses.

There's the really emotional,

just everyone comes unglued,

or there's the I don't care,

I mean like, whatever.

And both of those are hard to deal with

when you're in an audience, you know

when you're in a speaking situation like that.

So, I think it's frustrating, you just can't

have dialogue, you can't use reason, you can't.

- Alright, so people today believe that it's possible,

it's entirely up to you, to reinvent yourself if you want.

I want to argue that sexual boundaries,

sexual definitions, follow the same kind of pattern.

The revolt of our current generation against the

Triune God, who made Heaven and Earth,

is a revolt in the direction of a pagan polytheism.

Multiple gods, multiple voices, multiple laws,

and a general clamor out of which it's possible

to select whatever suits the individual at the time.

The political name for this is pluralism,

diversity is another name for it, the philosophical

and cultural name for it is postmodernism.

Radically relativistic, radically relativistic,

whether it means to be or not,

if has fallen off a cliff and cannot be prevented

from eventually hitting the craggy rocks below,

which I would say are nihilism and despair.

But while falling, a number of people, while falling,

a number of people have the temporary sensation of

absolute freedom, and they seek to use

that freedom in the creation of pursuit of

various sexualities, as part of the freedom

that they think they have.

That is why we are dealing with metrosexuals,

sodomites, catamites, lesbians.

(crowd shouting)

Virtual perverts.

(cheering)

We weren't taking a vote.

- [Man in crowd] Shut up!

- Bloomington was probably the most aggressive

I've seen one of these things being,

and really one of the most aggressive and

most, I mean, I don't think we ever had

a security planned for Doug before.

I could be wrong, but I don't think we

ever had a security planned for him.

So there literally was fear, or concern

that this could actually turn physically hostile.

- [Man in crowd] (beep) (beep) shut up!

- I got video that, during the event or that night.

- [Man in crowd] Shut up!

I don't care what he's saying,

he's a (beep) racist, sexist, homophobic,

misogynist (beep).

- You know, people getting arrested.

- Get your (beep) off me.

- You know, the aggressive verbal,

you know, attack.

- Don't touch me.

Hey, don't touch me.

- That happened at the event.

I mean, that stuff was ramped up levels

from what we'd seen before.

- You can't have it both ways.

You can't have absolute freedom

and then say, no no, wait, we can't do that.

So, what is going to happen, is what will push

to the front of the line, is,

(applause)

pederasty, pedophilia, bestiality.

(laughter)

If you believe, if you believe that,

as Alfred Kinsey did, that children are sexual

from birth and express that sexuality,

if you believe that, what you believe about ultimate

reality is going to drive your behavior.

So what happens is this.

(cheering)

- [Man in crowd] Are you cheering for pedophilia?

- Okay.

Q and A, Q and A is coming up, Q and A is coming up.

One of the things that we have to recognize,

let's just give an example, people say,

in these culture war debates, people will say something

like, people on my side of the line will say,

what about polygamy, oh no, we're not

talking about that, we're not demanding it,

everybody, it's just two people, you know.

Have you noticed that limiting marriage rights

to two is hatred against bisexuals?

(crowd murmuring)

Are bisexuals, are bisexuals allowed

to express their sexuality through marriage?

- [Crowd] Yes.

- [Doug] Through marriage.

So there has to be at least three.

- No!

(crowd murmuring)

(cheering)

- It's intense, just the way it's pure rage,

it feels like a large temper tantrum.

It's not like you're sitting down having

reasoned discourse, and it's an attempt to,

it's really just an assertion of raw power.

You know, but the thing it's weird

is the way it's an assertion by raw power,

by claiming victim-hood.

Like the thing that I remember, that I just

still haven't got my mind around,

was the way it looked to me like

the people in the crowd came with

pre-painted bruises and stuff.

You know, so they came makeupped

to have been victims.

- Particularly what we're doing right now

is painting our faces as if we've been hit

or bullied, or physically harassed in some way,

to show that words have consequences.

- But as a way to just plain shut down

what was going on.

And so there's this weird ability to

manipulate victim-hood into a fist.

And it's just crazy.

- [Man in crowd] (beep) (beep) shut up!

I don't (beep) what he's saying.

He's a (beep) idiot.

Misogynistic (beep).

Get your (beep) off me.

Don't touch me.

Hey!

- [Man in crowd] They're attacking queers!

(shouting)

- [Crowd] Off our campus!

Anyone who agrees!

Join us now!

You will leave!

Slavery is ideal!

Women are inferior!

Gays deserve!

- [Man] Are you done yet?

- [Crowd] We're against misogyny!

We reject homophobia!

- [Man] We get it.

Can you please sit down?

Officer.

Whoever the ringleader is.

- [Crowd] A safe place for everyone.

We respect free speech.

This is hate speech.

- We want to stand on the side of love, not war.

(drums)

(chanting)

- Why don't you live what you say you believe?

And I would say to all the diversity mongers,

why don't you live what you say you believe?

Why don't you.

You know, diversity for everybody who thinks like me.

(cheering)

You need to wake up.

You're not committed to free speech.

You're not committed to diversity,

you're not committed to all the things you say

that you're committed to.

- [Woman in crowd] Raise your fucking hand and

fucking right fist, police are fucking shit.

- This is not the first time I've run into the tolerance

buzz zone.

If you want diversity, then show me

how committed you are to it.

- [Crowd] We're still queer!

We're still queer.

We're still queer.

(chanting)

- [Voiceover] You know, several different designs,

until we got the perfect cake that

just matched them, and sometimes it would take

two hours of sitting in a cake tasting,

and if they chose me to do their cake.

(heavy breathing)

I'm sorry.

(applause)

I would just feel so honored

to be able to be a part of such an amazing,

special day.

- It's not like, you know, people go,

I shouldn't have to bake a cake for two homos,

it's not like you sit in your business that makes

cakes all day long, it's not like you're

sitting on your couch watching the Dodger game,

and somebody from the government walks in,

bake a cake for those queers.

(laughter)

That's not what's happening.

What, I'm (beep) watching TV,

I gotta bake a cake?

That's not what's happening.

- [Voiceover] Feminism has been around,

you know, my whole life.

So it's not like, there's probably any one thing,

it was probably just as I became aware of,

what women were trying to get away with.

- It's a man's world, and they can kind of

say what they want and do what they want,

and we saw that.

- And that what it comes down to?

- Everybody's got a point of view,

everybody's got an opinion.

- I put all this tender love and care

into my wedding cakes, now they want

me to give it to lesbians.

- I thought that tolerance, which was the mantra.

- Alec Baldwin has been getting some grief

from Anderson Cooper and from Andrew Sullivan.

- We can tolerate their point of view,

they can tolerate my point of view,

every American should be able to tolerate

anybody's point of view,

and we shouldn't butt heads.

- Why did Joakim Noah get fined 50 thousand

when Koby, for saying the same thing,

was fined 100 thousand?

- Well, in this situation that apparently

is not the case.

- Yeah, I am woman, hear me roar,

kind of we're tough.

- [Voiceover] It showed scantily clad women,

earlier this morning he apologized

and actually broke down.

- Now, feminists are kind of big crybabies.

- I made a big mistake, and I offended

many people, and I'm very sorry about this.

(heavy breathing)

- We heard about the photographer,

and then the other baker in Colorado.

- I didn't know, I didn't know that same sex

attraction, or sexual orientation was a protected class.

- Paula said in court that she has regularly

used the N word, and that she admitted to her

desire to throw a pre-Civil War era

plantation wedding.

What?

- I thought I was well within my rights to say,

no thank you, I don't want that order.

- Playing the victim card all the time.

- You know, I didn't mean it in a homophobic way,

and I think that, sorry,

I think that.

- I did not mean to waste your time,

I can't, in good conscious,

make a same sex wedding cake.

- That doesn't matter, you know,

how you mean things doesn't matter,

words have weight in meaning.

- You know.

- And what was their response?

- Got up and walked out.

- Didn't say anything to you?

- Didn't say a word to me.

- Oh, it's easier to be a victim,

and it's easier to flop for the camera

and you know, claim to have sprained your ankle.

- The word I chose was grotesque,

and you know, no one deserves to say or hear

words like that.

- I think it takes less brains for one thing.

You don't have to make an argument.

You just have to say you hurt my feelings.

- Well, the mom came back in.

- She came back in at a later time,

of course the mom is heterosexual.

- There are all kinds of different people in the world.

That's what makes the world special.

- She tried to, she said that she was raised

as a Southern Baptist, and once thought

the way I did, but her truth had changed.

- So whether someone is different than you.

- And race.

- Ethnicity.

- Political beliefs.

- Religion.

- Or sexual orientation.

- She's evolved.

- Yeah.

Her truth has evolved.

- Words can be hurtful.

Replace them with understanding,

compassion, and acceptance.

- Not unlike the president.

- Right, exactly.

- The swooning couch culture,

like feminists who are (laughs).

They like to have all the tough rhetoric,

but then immediately resort to the fainting couch,

the like Victorian thing, is that what you mean?

- I've failed.

I didn't just go below the bar,

went way below the bar.

You know, I made a mistake.

- When did you know you were in trouble?

- When we got the, heard about the Bureau

in labor and industries.

- I'd like to apologize to the fans,

for the Blue Jays, the Blue Jays organization.

- Yeah.

Well once, okay, let's put it this way.

When the commissioner of the Bureau comes

out and says, folks have a right to their religious beliefs,

but they don't have a right to break the law.

- He said, today, as a young man,

I didn't understand the power of certain words

and how they could hurt.

- Well, he's got his mind made up.

He never even heard the case yet,

according Charlie Burr, the spokesman for

the Bureau of Labor and Industry,

they hadn't even contacted these girls yet.

Which was a lie.

They were doing the intake process

as they were saying this.

- And it was also said by Brad Avakian

That it's not, how did he say it,

- The goal is not to shut a business down,

but to rehabilitate them so they can operate

within the confines of the law.

- What?

- Yes!

- This is an Orwellian nightmare.

Orwell pointed out in his essay on the politics

of English, how basically language is full

of political ramifications, and people

think that it's neutral, and that when

someone says, oh, you hurt my feelings,

that they just take it at face value.

But no, there is an agenda here.

- You asked me once, Winston, what was

in room 101.

- You know, I've been a supporter of the LBGTQ

community my entire life, and I completely

let the members of that community

and everybody else down when I used

a word like that, this weekend.

- It was there for you to flop over on

when your corset got tightened too tight,

and so it was there for you as you passed out.

There you would go, elegantly onto this swooning couch.

- They are trying to get us to go somewhere.

- Thing that is in room 101 is the worst thing in the world.

- And if I'm not prepared to go where they're

trying to get me to go, I'm not prepared to

let them near the rudder, I'm not prepared

to let them have control over what is acceptable

discourse or not.

- And my heart's broken, and I genuinely

am deeply sorry to anyone who's ever

been affected by that term in their life.

- And, but it was very in this sort of,

you know, 18th, 19th century, swooning and

being overcome by your feelings was,

you know, kind of hip.

- It's this, oh oh, that's triggering.

Well, grow up.

- And I don't deserve or expect your forgiveness.

- All societies have ultimate values.

- Goes beyond fear of pain or death.

It is unendurable.

It varies from individual to individual.

- Every society in the history of man

has had an integration point, and people

are not allowed to blaspheme against that

central integration point.

- It is rats.

- No!

- And so you'd have your smelling salts

and you know, everything, and I think

that's what the kind of woman as

this little tender China doll thing,

is what the feminists are trying to get

away from, so it's really hilarious to me

that now we're doing the big you hurt my feelings.

- So in Saudi Arabia, you can't go down

to downtown mecca and blaspheme Mohammed or Allah.

(rats squeaking)

- Please, what do you want me to do?

- You'll do what is right.

- But what I ask is that at home, if you're watching this,

and you're a young person especially.

- You're making me feel bad, you know,

it seems like all they need is the smelling salts

to complete the picture.

- How can I do it if I don't know what it is?

- In the Proletarians, they will attack a baby,

and within five minutes strip it to the bone.

- In medieval Christendom you could get

arrested for blaspheming Jesus.

- If someone says something that hurts you,

or angers you.

- Rehabilitate.

- So you guys are sick, you've got a condition.

- [Woman] I guess.

- [Interviewer] And it needs to be fixed.

- Today, I could go downtown in any major American

city and get myself arrested on the basis

of nothing more than what I was saying.

- Use me as an example of what not to do.

- Needs to be fixed, needs to be rehabilitated.

You, whatever is going on here,

needs to be rehabbed.

- This starving brutes will shoot at you like bullets.

Have you ever seen a rat eat from here?

They will leap on to your face

and bore straight into it.

- I could begin talking about certain

sacred cows, in our political life,

and I could get myself arrested.

They wouldn't call it blasphemy laws,

they wouldn't arrest me for blasphemy,

they would arrest me for hate speech.

- And don't respond with hatred.

- And if they're successful, in getting

you fixed.

- Theocracies are inescapable.

- Because you're just adding more ugliness to the world.

- What's that going to look like?

What do they want from your to be fixed?

- What do you want?

- We're a democracy, and so demos is the

Greek word for people, the people are the god

in the system, and there are certain protected

classes of people whom I must not touch.

- Helping somebody celebrate same sex marriage.

- I may not say anything about them.

And if I say something about them,

they're going to haul me in.

- And again, I just.

- What they're going to do is they're

going to haul me in for reorientation.

(screaming)

They want to put me through sensitivity training.

What they want to do is they want to

teach me the error of my ways, and the

fundamental thing they want me to admit

is their right to be treating me this way,

they want me to admit they have the right

to haul me in, and that I must become my own

accuser, and I must say that I'm sorry.

- I'm sorry.

- I apologize.

- Sorry.

- I apologize.

- I'm just, I'm so sorry.

- If you go back to the Stalinist show trials,

there is this inexorable, tyrannical demand

that the victim accuse himself.

He must accuse himself.

That's the way they do it in North Korea,

that's the way Stalin did it, and that's

the way we're going down that road.

So they're going to want me to say

that I'm sorry, and they're going to want me to

love Big Brother, they're going to want

me to say Big Brother has my best interests in mind,

and I've got to embrace the system.

That's what they want from me.

Because I'm not a progressive, secularist leftist.

Where they want to go, I am refusing to go.

I'm saying, I'm sorry, I'm not going to

let you punch my ticket, I'm not going to

get on your train, I'm not going to cooperate

with anything you're doing, because I know

what you're doing.

- That's the fix.

That's what they want, it was for us

to celebrate something the Bible calls sin.

- You know, I had worked for so many

years building a reputation with a lot of my vendors.

When I lost my vendors because a group

of people basically harassed them all,

to the point where they took me down

from their websites, they emailed us,

said we're no longer, you know,

we can't associate with your guys'

company, we can't refer you.

I had two people that tried to hold on,

and they said, you know, we love you,

we know that, you know, this was not

about hate or anything of that nature.

So we're going to keep you on our website.

One girl, she called me about a week later,

and said I'm so, so sorry, I have to

take you down, and I said, that's okay,

what's going on?

And she said, I haven't gotten

any business this whole week.

She goes, it's been nothing but emails

and phone calls of just harassment.

And that's, I mean, I told her,

take me down, I don't want this to affect you.

Go ahead.

So I think that's, at that point,

when I lost all of my vendors, which was

pretty much about 70, right about there, percent

of our business, that's when I was like,

oh, this isn't good.

- This is free market, capitalism,

I'm just saying that people have a right

to go tell their people that we're upset at you.

We don't like you working with them,

and they can either cave or they can not,

but I mean.

- I don't think it's okay for them

to harass people, I think that's

a little bit extreme.

- I mean, one vendor literally went to the

extent of things, that I haven't been able

to pick my phone up without being cussed out.

- Yeah.

- Okay, now that's, I mean, that's not,

hey, do you do business with these people?

You really shouldn't, you know what they did?

No, that's just I'm angry, I'm angry

and I don't want you to do business with them.

I mean, that actually more closely mirrors

racketeering, and see now, here's the odd part is,

when that day, that happened on January 17th,

when her mom came back in, her first words

out of her mouth was, you got to say your piece

and you got a right to it, I want to say mine.

I said, go ahead.

It goes both ways.

- What did she say?

- She told me that I was wrong,

that her daughter was born that way,

that God had made her daughter that way.

She said I was wrong and walked out.

And we agreed to disagree.

- [Interviewer] Right.

- You know, what a wonderful thing.

Out on the street.

A family of seven out on the street.

In the name of equality and tolerance.

- [Woman] I don't know anybody that has

five kids that can afford.

- 135 thousand dollar damages.

- That alone blows my mind.

- So you don't think it's just a cultural coincidence

that these are the professions that have been targeted?

- What happens is we just had this wedding ceremony,

and we went from the church to the reception hall,

and there's certain professions you call upon

to make this look glorious.

Make this look like a good time was had by all.

Make this lovely.

Evangelical Christian bakers, and evangelical

Christian florists, and evangelical Christian

videographers, and photographers,

are saying no, we can't make this lovely.

This is beyond the scope of my ability.

What the homosexual movement is after

is not the right to marry.

They're after far more than that.

What they're after, what they're demanding,

is our approval.

- It's like, in some way it's the victory

of the Gospel, because I don't think

100 years ago or on another continent,

you could have done this.

It's like, because as Christians,

we learn to appreciate the underdog,

you know, because of the cross,

we favor the victim, but they've learned

to take that victim-hood, that instinct

to sort of favor the victim, and turned it,

it's like a jujitsu move, where they've

turned it into this way of asserting power again.

But it is all just an assertion of power,

it's like, you know, this is the thing that's

so frustrating as Christians, is that

tolerance, diversity, all of these,

they're words that they don't mean tolerance,

they mean, I mean, tolerance means,

as far as I can tell, we don't serve your kind.

You know, if the place proclaims tolerance,

it means I'm not welcome there.

If they proclaim diversity, I'm not welcome there.

And they've grabbed those words

and changed it by raw power.

And if you challenge the definition,

it's a temper tantrum, right.

It's not going to be a reasoned discussion

about what those words really mean.

It's just, by power, they've asserted this,

but they've done it in this kind of cunning way,

where, at least, I think Christians are initially thrown,

because we're supposed to favor the victim,

and so we sit there, scratch our heads,

try to figure out why, but we don't realize,

no, this is just another power move.

It's just they're doing it in a way that

Christians are slow to catch on to

what's happening.

- I can see being disappointed.

Is that worth 135 thousand dollars?

You know, 80 cents.

I'd go 80 cents on that.

- How about a free birthday cake?

You know, I mean.

Now, the ones I find are just

I don't know what mentally rape means.

I don't get that one.

I don't know how you can have loss of appetite,

- [Interviewer] So you somehow mentally raped.

- [Man] By saying I'm sorry, I can't do your wedding cake.

- [Woman] That I just don't understand, honestly.

- And for all those people who would say,

well that's not what really happened,

no, she said that on the stand and court under oath,

that that's what I said to her,

was I'm sorry, I think I may have wasted your time,

I can't do the same sex wedding cake.

- And at that point,

those words are still injuring today.

Penetrated her in such a way that she

did not want to be penetrated with words?

- I suppose.

- I can't describe why.

- But then again, those words caused

another girl that was not even present at the shop

to start smoking, that was my fault.

They had loss of appetite, but weight gain.

Insomnia and they overslept.

- Which by the way is actually

the worst condition to get, right.

If I lost my appetite, and I had weight gain?

Cause if I want weight gain, I want to be enjoying

the food I'm eating.

Right?

So I mean that, if that is true,

that's horrible.

- I made, and this is going to be

something that you find interesting,

I made somebody who did not have

a job dislike going to work.

- What?

- One of the things that, you know,

if you look at the story of Johnny Cash,

and you look at how the late 80s,

the early 90s, Nashville had turned its back on him.

It was Rolling Stone, Billboard, one of the big

music magazines, and they just took it out

on, I believe, American Records did,

it was a picture of Johnny Cash

just flipping off the camera, and in a sense

something like Johnny Cash would

like to thank Nashville for all of his support.

Nashville, in this story, Nashville was a lot like,

you know, reformed, evangelical culture

that has this idea of a very clean,

nice, biblically accurate, you know,

gospel, and so, someone like, you know,

Johnny Cash, and they're making songs that

we don't listen to that music.

And that's kinda dark.

I think, you know, his music doesn't

fit into, you know, doesn't fit in.

And it's just like Johnny Cash,

what happens.

You know, a lot of people, a whole new wave

of younger people, start listening to him,

listening to Johnny Cash, become big fans

and those were some of his biggest records.

And I think, there's a lot of parallels

as far as that goes, I think, you know,

Doug doesn't fit into a nice, gospel coalition reformer

evangelical build.

- Doug was very clear, in Indiana,

but far more than clear, he was courageous.

I mean, that was a thing,

like you can imagine, if you're watching that.

- I speak as a queer, I speak as a atheist.

I speak as a student, speak as an instructor.

- I have a hard time when I'm watching something like

that, not imagining myself in those shoes.

- Has by your definition, then Abraham,

Sarah, and Hagar were all bisexuals too?

- I'm openly gay and a Christian.

- You know, if somebody's standing on a cliff,

I get scared, because I feel like I'm on the cliff,

what would it be like to be in that position?

- What did he lose again, by going to Heaven

and ruling over the universe?

I mean, where's the sacrifice?

- Why you think you have the right and

the privilege of speaking for all Christians?

- Can somebody be both Christian and gay?

- You see that and you're, I get nervous and

sick in my stomach.

- Homosexual behavior is observed in

almost every species.

- Man and woman.

Does that mean God was literally intersex?

Or was he just really queer?

- Where does Jesus say that homosexuality is a sin?

- It's very inconsistent.

It's kind of very confusing if everybody's

bad, then, really, what's, I don't want to say

what's the point, but yeah, what's the point?

- Imagine, standing there, with that crowd, shouting.

- When that's just your side of the story?

(applause)

- Doug was clear, because he had the courage,

and you know the courage obviously comes

from faith, you know, faith, to courage,

to then you can think clearly and you do that.

So I'd like to raise up a generation of people

that have that virtue.

Because what happens is, as soon as

David steps up, and says, no,

I'm going to face Goliath, as soon as

he does that, then everybody phoomed behind,

but you have to have a couple people

who are first really to make that stand,

that then everybody can go, because till

somebody does that, everybody just sits there

looking back and forth, until they're ripped apart,

you know, the shield wall is broken,

and then you're gone, and you never realize,

actually you had the forces,

you had the people,

you had what was necessary,

it's just you didn't have the courage.

You didn't have spine to stand up

and say what's patently obvious.

* I'm from a side, come and get it

* must of work, with a grown man

* I've got my beer, state of my holy

* suckers trying hold me

* Imma kill them with my own hands

* They keep pulling me back

* I'm from the side, come and get it

* Must them work going cleaning up

* Now we call that grown man

* I got my beer, state of my holy

* suckers trying to hold me

* Imma kill them with my own hands *

- Not only does this say

about homosexuality is wrong, and you,

in your works, you have said that homosexuals

deserve to die or be exiled.

So what do you say to those people

who are wearing polyester, with two blended fabrics?

Those who plant two different kinds of seeds

in the same field, or those who breed two

different kinds of the same animal,

do they deserve to die as well?

- Number one, it is true that the Bible

teaches that sinners are worthy of death.

I don't want to indicate in any way

that I think that being worthy of death

in this way is in any way unique

to homosexuals, I believe I deserve to die

for my sins.

The sentence of death rests on

the whole human race, for this condition of

sinfulness and also for particular sins,

of which homosexuality is one, heterosexual sin

is another, and so on.

So that's the first part.

The second part of your question,

is in the Old Testament, there are three kinds

of laws, there's moral law, there's judicial law,

and there's ceremonial law.

God required of the Jews in the Old Testament

that the Book of Ephesians calls it

ordinances contained within in the Commandment.

It's a holiness code, so he's teaching

them this, not that, so unclean foods,

you're not to eat this, you may eat that,

and the New Testament tells us very

expressly that this holiness code

is not erased as though a bad idea,

but it's fulfilled in Christ, which is why

the ceremonial law of the Old Testament

is not binding on Christians today.

But the moral law is.

- I mean, it's amazing, the disparity

when you get to a college campus.

There are smart kids, there are kids who are

dumb as rocks, and at all kinds of universities.

- [Interviewer] How are the dumb people there?

- It's really not difficult to get in to colleges.

- Is there an issue if there are people

that love each other, and they choose

to express their love in a way that

does not harm anyone, nor does it harm themselves,

and it's just purely love,

is there a problem with that?

- You're including sexual expression

of love, or you're just talking about loving each other?

I think we should all love each other.

- Yeah, and I'm including sexual expression

of love too, if it doesn't hurt

anyone else, and it doesn't hurt you,

and it's purely love, why is there an issue with it?

- Okay, first, if that were the case,

I would agree with you.

- Why is that not the case?

Because I feel that that's probably

where we're at.

- The place where this is hitching up

is in that phrase, provided it is not

hurting anybody else.

Okay.

In other words, we believe, we believe

that God tells us, that these things are destructive.

- Don't say we, because that includes me.

I'm not part of that we.

- Got it, okay, so when I'm saying we here,

I'm not saying we here in this room,

I am saying, we Christians, I'm trying to

speak on behalf of Christians.

- [Woman in crowd] Some Christians, not all Christians.

- [Interviewer] Where did you go?

- Case and point, case and point.

I went to Yale and Notre Dame,

they'll let anybody in.

- [Doug] I'd like to hear the gentleman's question.

- So I'm an English student, I study

language and I study text.

I want to know why, I guess people in general,

cause I didn't really listen to much

of what you had to say because I don't

really believe that the Bible is the word of God.

- Should I listen to your question as carefully?

- Well, sir, I'm asking you about the

root of your faith.

- Should I listen to your question,

would you like me to listen to your question

as carefully as you listened to my talk?

- If you want to get, if you want to serve

people up, talk about their life,

and if you mess with that,

people aren't going to like that.

- All Americans have the right to

make decisions about their own bodies,

including the right to contraception without

interference from the government,

business, or religious institutions.

Do you agree with that?

- I believe that, I believe there

aught to be no legal restriction at all

on what a woman does with her own body.

If she decides that she wants to

chop off this finger, I don't think

there aught to be a law against it.

If she wants to chop off all her fingers,

I don't think there should be a law

against it, but why do we not have to

make a law against it?

We don't, the reason that's not

a pressing social issue, is precisely

because her fingers are her body.

She takes care of that, which is her body.

The issue in the whole abortion rights

thing, and this goes back to my first point

and my first talk, I hope you can see

how your religious presuppositions

define everything, because if you are

approaching this from a Christian

vantage point, reproductive rights

is code word for my body, and my child,

and I can take my child's life,

if I want, and no one can tell me

that I can't, so if you believe,

as I do, that there's more people

involved than just the woman.

- I just don't think that unbelievers are

fully consistent with where their worldview is going.

- First part of your, whatever this is, show,

I'm entertained, somehow, I don't know why,

I was wondering, you mentioned something

about us having to live up to our lifestyles

that we try to put out for society,

try to live up to that.

I'm wondering why aren't you?

I mean, I'm listening to this, all I hear is a bunch

of just hypocritical talking, because I look

through, and I look at people like,

I have two aunts, that are gay,

and they've been together for years,

way before I was born, and they're

like, two of the most sweetest people

I've ever known, you know, look at

the shirts off your back, they'll do anything

or anyone, and you know, I find it weird that

you know, first, this religion who has such

a loving and caring passionate God

for the beings that he created,

why would he shun them if he

created them that way?

And you know, I just don't, I'm not

understanding where you're getting

off all this hate talk and you know,

casting judgement on other people,

because I was pretty sure the Bible said,

you know, judge not, lest you be judged.

And my favorite proverb was, you know,

let you without sin cast the first stone.

And you know, I'm trying to understand

why you're being such a hypocrite,

because you're not talking, you know,

nothing you're saying is connecting,

I just really want an answer, and I would

like it in the form of logic, if that's possible.

- Okay.

With Mathews, you quoted Mathews 1:7,

judge not lest you be judged, for the

judgement which you judge you shall be judged.

Jesus is not saying, don't ever judge,

he says, the judgement that you use

is going to be used on you.

He says, don't judge with a double standard.

In other words, I've not said anything here tonight

that I'm not fully willing to have

applied to me, the Bible applies to me

in the first instance.

The Bible applies to me before I think

about anybody else, before I think about laws

or policy, it applies to me.

I am a sinner.

- This in consistency is a common

grace almost, it allows the unbeliever

to survive, to get on with life,

you know, to not self destruct.

- So, I study psychology here,

and I'm particularly interested in Kinsey's research,

and I came here under the supposition

that it was about Kinsey, I guess I missed

that part in your lecture, where you talked

about Kinsey, and I was interested in where

your research is, that shows his is wrong.

Cause you say that Kinsey is wrong,

I'm just interested in what kind of survey

you conducted, what you're counterarguments are.

- The particular things I would object to

with Kinsey is his correspondence with

a guy named Von Balluseck, a German Nazi

who did experiments.

- So you have a problem with who he

was friends with, not with his research?

- Well, he was using Von Balluseck's information as

par of his research.

- Okay, so you still have a problem with

his friends, not his research?

- No, his friends were his research,

his friends, he collected information

from these people, and in Kinsey's

book, I think it's table 32, he talks about

orgasmic experience in infants

two months old, four months old,

and he has the table that goes

up and explains how many orgasms

in a 24 hour period these little

kids were having, and the only way

they'd be having what Kinsey called orgasms,

because he defined orgasms in these

situations as including convulsions,

throwing up, screaming, fear, which is what

a child would do when being preyed upon

by a sexual predator, that's defined

as an orgasm in his operational definition,

and he includes that in his research.

He included prisoners and represented them

as part of the general population,

he included prisoners including

people who where in jail for sex crimes,

as normed, ordinary citizens, I just

believe it was a junk science to go

with a junk morality.

- Right.

- You've almost gone beyond where you

can talk to someone.

And I see that on both sides,

I see, I mean, Christians and non-Christians,

they just can't, they just can't reason well.

And it's scary, you know, run by emotions.

And I mean, we all are, none of us are

perfectly consistent, we're all you know,

all only human, but it's such a disaster

out there, that it's getting to the point

where, I mean, and I know people have said this,

in probably every generation, the barbarians

are not at the gates, they're, we're hanging

out with them now.

We're a culture who is just the littlest thing

hurts us, but we don't mind killing others.

- So why folks in Bloomington want to pretend

that Wilson is racist and the answer being,

because they would like to distract from the fact

Kinsey was a dirty white perv, pedaling junk science

in defense of destructive sexuality.

The reason we feel like you're racist is because

in Southern Slavery As It Was,

a monograph by Steve Wilkins and

Douglas Wilson, I think that's you,

it says slavery produced in the South

a genuine affection between the races that

we can say has never existed in any

nation before the war since,

whatever it's failures, slavery produced in the South

a duree of mutual affection between the races,

which will never be achieved through any

federally mandated efforts.

Can you please elaborate on that?

How is that not racist?

It's actually, one more thing,

three historians even said, condemned it,

with one of them saying that it was

as spurious as a Holocaust denial.

That's pretty racist to me.

So could you please elaborate and how

it interconnects with Christ, and how

Christ had unconditional love for the world

and how the two interconnect,

how racism's okay because God said it was okay,

which is kind of what this pamphlet is telling me.

- Okay, let me step into your worldview

for a minute, and speak to this thing that I said

in Southern slavery.

And this is very important.

Assuming what your view of the world to be correct,

what you just read, if I agreed with you,

I would dismiss as stupid and asinine,

but not as racist.

Especially since elsewhere in the booklet,

I defined race, racism, racial animosity,

racism, and the belief of superiority of one

race over another as a sin against God,

in that booklet, I do that.

- So you counter your own points?

- No, I'm saying some people who agitated

things need to do a little bit more reading

before they got the wind in their sails.

- I've done a lot of reading.

- This is the fundamental thing.

So just so you understand this.

As far as the theory is racism charge,

I believe racism is a sin, I believe

that it is evil, I believe that God hates it,

and I believe that God will judge it

along with all other sins at the last day.

Now, is that racist?

No.

That's my position.

Now, if I believe that you shouldn't

take a sinful institution, which I believe

slavery was, and attack it by fermenting a war,

if I believe that you aught not to tackle

the problem that way, but rather you aught

to attack the problem another way,

you might differ, and you're invited

to differ, with whether my approach

to it is wise or stupid, foolish, whatever.

But it's not racist.

- The privilege and distinct honor

to introduce the 44th President of

the United States of America,

Barack H. Obama.

(cheering)

- We, the people, declare today

that the most evident of truths,

that all of us are created equal,

is the star that guides us still,

just as it guided our forbears through

Seneca Falls and Selma and Stonewall,

just as it guided all those men and women,

sung and unsung who left footprints

along this great Mall, to hear a preacher

say that we cannot walk alone.

To hear a king proclaim that our individual

freedom is inextricably bound to the freedom

of every soul on Earth.

(applause)

It is now our generation's task

to carry on what those pioneers began.

For our journey's not complete

until our wives, our mothers and daughters

can earn a living equal to their efforts.

(applause)

Our journey is not complete until our

gay brothers and sisters are treated

like anyone else under the law.

For if we are truly created equal,

they surely the love we commit

to one another must be equal as well.

(applause)

Our journey is not complete until

no citizen is forced to wait for hours

to exercise the right to vote.

(applause)

Our journey is not complete until

we find a better way to welcome the striving,

hopeful immigrants who still see

America as a land of opportunity.

Until bright young students and engineers

are listed in our workforce rather

than expelled from our country.

(applause)

Our journey is not complete,

until all our children, in the streets

of Detroit to the hills of Appalachia,

to the quiet lanes of Newtown,

know that they are cared for

and cherished and always safe from harm.

That is our generation's task.

To make these words, these rights,

these values of life and liberty

and the pursuit of happiness,

real for every American.

Being true to our founding documents

does not require us to agree on

every contour of life.

(cheering)

- We live in a time when racism

is the all purpose attack your enemy.

So I want to say, if someone says,

are you a racist, first, now,

what do you mean by racist?

- Okay, I'll jump in.

Do you believe the Civil War was good?

- No.

- Are you a big of Abraham Lincoln?

- No.

I think he was a great man, but I don't

think he was a helpful president,

I think his presidency had a number

of destructive consequences that

we're still dealing with today.

- [Crowd] Equal pay for equal work.

- Are you an African American woman?

- I identify as black.

- [Voiceover] Caitlyn looked absolutely amazing.

- Dealing with the fact that we don't have slavery anymore?

- No, dealing with the fact that the federal

government thinks they have the right

to define what marriage is for all 50 states.

- How do we get to marriage and talking about slavery?

- Well, in that when they, at the founding,

you had 13 colonies form the federal government.

As a result of our expansion westward,

and as a result of the constitutional shifts

in the war between the states,

we then had the idea take root

that the federal government could create

states, now the federal government

is older than the new states being created.

- So the role of the court wasn't settled.

John Marshall settled it.

He made it clear that the decisions

of the Supreme Court were binding

on the state courts, remember the state courts

as I said, they were here before the Constitution.

It wasn't clear that they were going to have

the final say, or these new federal courts,

including the Supreme Court.

He established the Supreme Court

as the final arbitrator of what the Constitution means.

The branch that was going to make

a decision was going to be binding

not only on the citizens, but also

on the states and also importantly

on the federal government itself.

- People think the federal, the centralized

government has authority to tell the

lower downs what to do, so we think

of it as a giant corporation and the

federal government is the CEO and all

the states are the department managers.

That's not the Constitutional system.

That's not what the Constitution created.

That's not what the Constitution was set up to do.

- As you already know, the Supreme Court

is at the top of the ladder.

- [Voiceover] There has been a decision handed

down on at least one of the two

cases regarding gay marriage in America

that we expect to today from the US Supreme Court.

- [Voiceover] The cake shop owner

in Colorado now facing fines or even

jail time after he refused to bake

a cake for a same sex wedding.

- Supreme Court justice had said,

okay everybody, you've got to let

two dudes marry, you've got to let

two women marry, all you people

in your states.

The federal government would have been

handled at that time, by eveybody

just laughing at them.

It would have been beyond ludicrous,

because the federal government

did not have that power.

Did not have that authority.

But, it does now, it certainly thinks

it does now, and even many opponents

of same sex marriage are positioning

themselves, you know, political opponents,

they're saying, well, if the Supreme Court

decides that we've got to do it this way,

then well, they're the Supreme Court after all,

we've got to do whatever they say.

That notion that we've got to do

whatever they say, is a political

approach that has a lineage, and that

lineage goes right back to the war between

the states and the way the 14th Amendment

was adopted and then applied.

- [Voiceover] Clerk's office turned away

gay couples who sought marriage licenses

Thursday, defying a federal judge's

order that said deeply held Christian

beliefs don't excuse officials

from following the law.

County clerk Kim Davis cited

her religious beliefs and decided

not to issue marriage licenses

to any couple gay or straight.

- I would ask you all to go ahead and.

- Why are you not issuing marriage licenses today?

- Because I'm not.

- Why?

- Under who's authority are you not issuing?

- Under God's authority.

- This began when a handful of unelected

judges decreed they knew better than

the American people, and that we're

going to write in to the Consistution

a right that doesn't exist.

- The Bill of Rights was a series of appendices,

a series of amendments.

- Resistance to the federal court order ceases at once.

The further presence of federal troops

will be unnecessary.

The city of Little Rock will return

to it's normal habits of peace and order.

And a blot upon the fair name and

high honor of our nation in the world

will be removed.

- Kim Davis is now in federal custody

just moments ago a judge found her

in contempt of court because she

would not issue marriage licenses

to same sex couples.

- Thus will be restored the image

of America and of all parts as one nation,

indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

- The original Constitution that the federalists

agreed to, in order to get the anti-federalists

who opposed the adoption of the Consitution,

to allay their concerns, the original Bill of Rights

were all restrictions on the power of the

central government.

- In a landmark ruling, the Supreme Court

today legalized abortions.

The majority and cases from Texas

and Georgia said that the decision to

end the pregnancy during the first three

months belongs to the woman and her doctor.

- Who's got the power?

- [Crowd] We've got the power!

- What kind of power?

(shouting)

- [Crowd] It's basic rights.

Women can't be free.

Abortion happens now and without apology.

- It's really hard to say that that's

a meaningless mass of cells.

Much more difficult than it used to be.

So, I think we're making very significant progress.

You can see that hearts start beating

at seven weeks, you know, a heart doesn't

beat in a meaningless mass of cells.

- Hold up, but respectfully no one

in their twenties cares at all

or understands about anything you just said.

- Yeah, that's their problem.

- But it doesn't matter anymore.

Everything you just said doesn't

matter, no one knows, the Bill of Rights,

number 14th, no one cares about that, Doug.

- Yeah, they're too busy checking their email.

- So explain to me, finish the sentence,

the Civil War was bad because?

- Well, if they don't care about what I just

said, they don't care about the Civil War.

If they don't care what I just said.

- But they care about slavery,

and slavery was a bad thing and

it ended because of the Civil War.

- No, what you're saying is that these

people who cannot be bothered to be

informed on what actually happened

in 1861, 1865, they're too bored, you're making

my heart hurt, am I going to have to

read a book or something?

- Was slavery bad?

- Yeah.

- So we got rid of it through a war.

- Yeah, we killed 600 thousand people to

get rid of it, everywhere else in the western word

no other country that practiced slavery

got rid of it the way we did, through a war.

So, was it bad to kill 600 thousand people?

Yeah, that's bad too.

Now what, why didn't we do it peacefully,

the way other countries did?

Why did we go to war over it?

So those issues are political issues that don't

have anything to do with the rightness

or wrongness of slavery.

- We have the ability to change this.

And to change this

without a war fought in the streets.

We have the ability to change.

- The Civil War wasn't a just war, then?

- The Civil War was absolutely a just war.

- So how much more with abortion?

- We have the ability to change this,

directly, simply by standing up and engaging.

- [Interviewer] So you're not willing to go

to war for the unborn?

- Where they say if you don't want to do it

our way, which is killing 600 thousand people.

Take all the money we spent on that war

and just buy all the slaves for pity's sake,

and set them free, you know,

why the bloodshed?

Why do you have to have blood?

Well, if I object to the blood,

if I object to settling that kind of dispute

the way not other nation did, then why

all of a sudden am I accused of

defending the institution of slavery,

which I want to get rid of peacefully?

- We should start with Christians and

with everyone who values life,

standing up and speaking out together.

- This is the difference between the conservative

mindset and the liberal mindset.

The conservative thinks always in terms

of trade offs, the liberal thinks in terms of solutions.

The liberal wants solutions.

And he doesn't want to think in terms

of trade offs, he doesn't want to think

that there's ever a price tag for

what he's advocating, he wants

free chocolate milk for everybody.

(shouting)

- Is this what you want to remember,

that you spit at, the children look at you,

and realize that you're bigots and you

discriminate against people.

- And why can't we have it?

Why can't we just vote for it?

Right?

Well, because the world's not that way.

- The federal department of health and human services

overturned Medicare's blanket ban on

sex reassignment surgery.

- Trans medicine is a medically necessary intervention.

- [Voiceover] Just last week, Massachusetts

became the third state in the country to

cover transgender healthcare under Medicaid.

- The Civil War was a series of trade offs and

I would argue that it was a bad set of trade offs.

- [Voiceover] Gay is the new black.

- The definition of civil rights, the word

civil rights is about equal rights for all,

regardless of gender, sexual orientation, race,

religion, and Barack Obama himself

has defined this as a civil rights issue.

So if he can say it's civil rights,

then I can say it's civil rights.

- From Seneca Falls to Selma to Stonewall,

that's how we achieved gay rights.

That's how we've made this union more perfect.

- We traded things we aught not to have traded.

And we're still paying for it.

That's my argument.

That's not to say, that I think that

the elimination of slavery was a bad thing.

Slavery is gone, and good riddance.

- This transition has been harder on me

than anything I could imagine.

- I'm as pro life as you can possibly be.

- It's all just a matter of items.

- Believe that abortion aught to be against the law.

- You know, you can imagine what

they would run with this,

"they're selling body parts," you know.

- [Interviewer] What'd keep your lab happy?

- Another fifty livers a week.

- I believe that the lives of the unborn

should be protected.

- Now, do I want to kill a million people

in order to achieve a pro life objective?

If I had a button in front of me,

and I push that button, and if I push

that button, we're going to have the great

North American war, and a million people are

going to die, after which there will be no

abortion on demand, okay,

that's the kind of trade off that I'm talking about.

Nobody was running the calculus before

the war between the states, saying,

well, we're going to kill 600 thousand people,

that's not how wars develop.

That's not how they go.

You get in, and then when you're in,

you're stuck.

- [Crowd] A safe place for everyone.

We respect free speech.

This is hate speech!

Get off our campus!

Racist, sexist, go away.

Racist, sexist, anti gay, Douglas Wilson go away.

(cheering)

- The verb, to tolerate, is a verb

that requires a direct object.

Everything boils down not to whether

you tolerate, but what you tolerate.

And conversely, it also boils down

to what you will not tolerate.

Every society tolerates and every

society refuses to tolerate.

Every subculture tolerates some things,

and refuses to tolerate others.

Every society, for example, keeps

some things and throws other things away.

So we're here at the dump, this is the

stuff that society, this town, is throwing away,

and there's a bunch of stuff in town that

they're not throwing away.

Everybody keeps stuff and everybody

throws stuff away.

The only question before us is

what do you keep and what do you throw away?

What do you hang on to and what do you jettison?

Our culture currently is adopting

purchasing, bringing home, taking into their

living rooms a novel approach to marriage,

family, culture, society, they've got this

new thing that they've set up in their homes,

and because they're doing that,

they are engaged in throwing away

their Christian heritage, their Christian legacy.

If you keep one thing, you have to

throw another thing away, and flip it around,

you can't keep everything.

A society that kept everything is a society

that would be a dump, it would be

just a random pile of things.

You've got to sort, you've got to select,

you've got to throw some things away,

and keep other things.

Now, one of the things that people

don't realize, and I'm sure this

happens at the dump all the time,

they throw things away and then later

they realize something that was precious

to them is missing, maybe it got

dumped into the bag and maybe

I accidentally, I lost my wedding ring,

or you know, that sort of thing.

And so they say, oh no, I threw something

away that I didn't mean to throw away.

Now, in our time, in this era,

we are self consciously rejecting our

explicit Christian heritage.

What we're throwing away that we don't

know we're throwing away, is our liberty.

We're throwing away our liberty, we're throwing

away our ability to speak freely,

we're throwing away our right to free speech.

We didn't know that that was in the garbage bag,

we didn't know that we shook that off

when we brushed off all our Christian commitments.

We didn't know that certain things were

going to go with it.

So, and this is of interest to non-Christians

as well, free speech, the liberty of conscience,

having a right to certain fundamental religious

convictions, that right is a right that Christians

developed, that came out of Christian societies.

It's not something that happened

all by itself, if you look at the history

of the world, where did the right of free speech

develop, where has it been established,

protected, and guarded for as long as it has been?

Well, overwhelmingly, in Christian societies.

And that's why it's no accident

when we are seeing this explicit

rejection of the Christian faith,

we're seeing almost simultaneously

the jailing of county clerks who's

conscience forbids them to issue

a license, we've seen bakers fined 135 thousand dollars,

in the public sector, county clerk,

in the private sector, florists,

photographers, videographers, bakers,

saying, you must conform.

So what they're doing, what's happening

is we've adopted this new commitment to egalitarianism

and same sex marriage, and then as a

absolute necessity, we are throwing away

liberty of conscience, the right to free speech,

and all these things liberals claim

are precious to them.

Well I'm sorry.

You can't take your chainsaw to the

orchard, and then go out in the fall

and ask, where are my apples?

The whole idea of liberty of conscience

is a distinctively Christian development.

When the first Amendment was established and

put into the US Constitution, that was America,

at that time, was not a secularist society.

It was overwhelmingly Christian,

Protestant, and for the most part, Calvinistic.

So basically, I would say what you can

expect if Christians prevail in the future,

you can expect largely what you got the first time.

Liberty.

Christians love liberty.

And the foundation of that liberty

was proclaimed, I think, at the very

first when the lord Jesus appeared

to Mary Magdalene after the resurrection.

That's the foundation of liberty.

Christ rose from the dead.

If Christ rose from the dead, everything

is transformed, if Christ didn't come back

from the dead, then we're just a bunch

of atoms colliding into each other

and the strongest at the top can

squash people as it suits them.

As it fits with their notions of public order.

If I'm not created in the image of God,

certain things follow.

If my atheist neighbor is not created

in the image of God, certain things follow.

And over time, men act in accordance

with their collective convictions.

You've seen those bumper stickers,

if you can read this, thank a teacher,

if you've every exercised your first Amendment

rights, thank a Christian.

Thank a Bible believing Christian.

We invented it.

The first Amendment is our contribution.

And so you can't come in late in the day

and pretend we are the enemies of free speech,

when we are the ones who put it

on the map.

- [Interviewer] Now, you don't believe the world's coming

to an end anytime soon?

- No, I think in the long run, we win.

- [Interviewer] Is that why you're optimistic?

- Yes, I'm optimistic, I believe that God

has given promises that the world

will be successfully evangelized

and I believe that in the long run

stupidity never works.

So I believe that the great commission

will be successfully fulfilled,

all the nations of men will be discipled,

they will be baptized, they will be taught

obedience to Jesus Christ.

(bold music)

Picture a soldier pinned down behind

a sand dune on Normandy Beach.

He's just landed, he's behind

a sand dune, he can't get to the next

sand dune, he can't achieve his next

objective because he's pinned down by

enemy fire, he's just stuck, and he's in

a bad jam.

Suppose that at this moment, we'll make

the illustration ludicrous, that a stray sheet of paper

from Eisenhower's invasion plans of Europe

got detached from the notebook

and is blowing down the beach,

and it lands on this soldier, and he

looks at it, and says, General Eisenhower,

in the orders Eisenhower to establish

a beach head on the continent of Europe

and to take Berlin.

And he looks at these orders, and he

can't even get past his own sand dune.

He could be tempted to despair, on the one hand,

because how can we do this when I can't even do that?

But he could also be, if he's thinking about it rightly,

he could be greatly encouraged and say,

however stuck I am, there are grand forces

in front of me.

However stuck I am, there are whole

armies in collision, I'm just one small

part of the puzzle, I'm just one small

part of this, the only thing I can do,

is be faithful at my post, be faithful

where I am, and if I am, then I'll

just leave the results to the sovereign god.

And that's how I feel.

There are times when I feel stuck

behind my sand dune.

There are times when I feel like,

why can't we do more, why can't

we communicate more effectively,

why can't we get this done.

And then a page of Mathew 28 blows

down the beach, all authority on Heaven and Earth

is given to me, Jesus said, therefore go disciple

the nations, baptizing them, teaching them to

obey all that I've commanded.

The Christian faith is a religion

of world conquest.

It's nothing short of that.

The Christian faith is a religion of world conquest

not by arms, not by carnal weapons,

but by preaching the gospel, declaring the gospel,

and by not falling all over yourself

to apologize for God's hard edged

definitions of sin, because the Bible says

you evangelize the world by preaching

repentance, repentance of sin, and belief in Jesus.

You repent of your sins, you turn

away from your sins, and you turn

to Jesus Christ.

Christian preachers have to be allowed

to define that sin out of the Bible.

That sin is self absorption, self centeredness,

lust, covetousness, malice, envy,

hatred, all these things, and the Bible

defines homosexual sin as a very grievous,

very serious sin, and it's one of the things

that people have to turn away from

in repentance if they want to be saved.

The apostle Paul lists homosexual sins

in Corinthians right among a couple

words for homosexual behavior

in the middle of a list of other sins,

and he says people who live this way

will not inherit the kingdom of God.

So we're preaching the kingdom of God,

we have to preach repentance from sin,

and faith in Jesus.

And there are too many Christians too ready

to capitulate on these definitions of what

sin it, without realizing they've just,

they say, well let's not get into politics,

let's just emphasize the gospel,

not realizing that they've just abandoned

50 percent of what gospel preachers

are required to proclaim.

Repentance and then faith.