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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:19,477 --> 00:00:26,234 ♪ ♪ 2 00:00:37,537 --> 00:00:42,375 (waves crashing) 3 00:00:51,551 --> 00:00:58,183 ♪ ♪ 4 00:01:08,985 --> 00:01:10,612 KRIS: March 11th. 5 00:01:10,612 --> 00:01:13,490 Mostly sunny. 6 00:01:13,490 --> 00:01:17,827 I feel the memories of nearly 20 years in this valley. 7 00:01:18,620 --> 00:01:24,959 Years of joy, pain, doubts, and reassurance. 8 00:01:26,836 --> 00:01:32,133 Love in a new way, so strong, so lasting. 9 00:01:36,471 --> 00:01:40,100 Few have lived as we have here. 10 00:01:40,100 --> 00:01:44,646 So yes my darling, I am lonely for you. 11 00:01:44,646 --> 00:01:48,942 Nothing calms me as your true and steady hand. 12 00:01:49,818 --> 00:01:52,695 Come home to your wife. 13 00:02:04,833 --> 00:02:08,253 ♪ ♪ 14 00:02:08,253 --> 00:02:10,130 REPORTER (over TV): Douglas Tompkins died Tuesday 15 00:02:10,130 --> 00:02:11,923 in an accident in Chile. 16 00:02:11,923 --> 00:02:13,800 He was a passionate conservationist. 17 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:16,177 REPORTER: He fell in love with Patagonia in his youth 18 00:02:16,177 --> 00:02:17,345 in the '60s 19 00:02:17,345 --> 00:02:20,306 and returned to buy land in the '90s. 20 00:02:20,974 --> 00:02:23,768 REPORTER: He lived in Chile for 25 years and leaves 21 00:02:24,102 --> 00:02:26,563 a legacy of the biggest philanthropic project 22 00:02:26,563 --> 00:02:27,814 in the world. 23 00:02:28,773 --> 00:02:31,192 MAN: Tompkins was a real visionary. 24 00:02:31,442 --> 00:02:35,238 He built a project at a difficult time when 25 00:02:35,238 --> 00:02:38,616 environmentalists were seen as eco-terrorists. 26 00:02:43,997 --> 00:02:46,082 KRIS: I mean, Doug was a big personality. 27 00:02:46,082 --> 00:02:47,625 He dies suddenly. 28 00:02:47,625 --> 00:02:49,627 Everybody thinks... 29 00:02:49,627 --> 00:02:51,504 they didn't know what to think. 30 00:02:51,504 --> 00:02:53,715 Would I fall apart? 31 00:02:53,715 --> 00:02:56,342 If I fell apart the game was over. 32 00:02:56,342 --> 00:02:59,971 We would lose 25 years of our work. 33 00:03:00,722 --> 00:03:04,934 People had no idea if I was going to come back or not. 34 00:03:06,102 --> 00:03:08,188 I lost the love of my life. 35 00:03:08,188 --> 00:03:12,150 I was seriously wounded, on my knees. 36 00:03:12,775 --> 00:03:17,572 I get a note from a friend who says, 37 00:03:17,572 --> 00:03:18,781 "You have to make a choice 38 00:03:18,781 --> 00:03:21,284 and you have to make it right now. 39 00:03:21,951 --> 00:03:23,870 You can live off this story. 40 00:03:23,870 --> 00:03:26,164 You can tell everybody about this life you had 41 00:03:26,164 --> 00:03:29,167 and mourn Doug for the rest of your life. 42 00:03:29,167 --> 00:03:33,421 Or you can go work, and don't stop. 43 00:03:34,714 --> 00:03:37,634 What are you gonna do?" 44 00:03:37,634 --> 00:03:40,303 And that was a choice. 45 00:03:43,139 --> 00:03:49,020 ♪ ♪ 46 00:03:52,482 --> 00:03:59,280 (chatter) 47 00:04:00,406 --> 00:04:03,743 RICK: So I got these, these are from K2. 48 00:04:03,743 --> 00:04:04,953 JIMMY: No way! 49 00:04:04,953 --> 00:04:07,705 What? 50 00:04:07,705 --> 00:04:09,374 KRIS: What year is that Rick? 51 00:04:09,374 --> 00:04:11,084 RICK: '78. 52 00:04:11,084 --> 00:04:14,128 JIMMY: Rick's going to drag us up the mountain. 53 00:04:16,130 --> 00:04:19,050 Um, so I brought you a different ax. 54 00:04:19,050 --> 00:04:21,302 It's a lot lighter. 55 00:04:21,302 --> 00:04:25,848 Or, I mean, I brought many axes for myself and Pablo. 56 00:04:25,848 --> 00:04:27,767 KRIS: So this is, this is it? 57 00:04:27,767 --> 00:04:29,936 JIMMY: Or you could take one of these, which is... 58 00:04:29,936 --> 00:04:31,980 KRIS: I'd rather, I think I'd rather have the long one. 59 00:04:31,980 --> 00:04:33,022 JIMMY: Okay. 60 00:04:33,022 --> 00:04:35,608 RICK: Time to go. 61 00:04:48,830 --> 00:04:52,792 JIMMY: After Doug had passed, Rick called and asked me if 62 00:04:52,792 --> 00:04:56,629 I wanted to join him and Kris on a climbing trip. 63 00:04:56,629 --> 00:05:01,175 You know, he told me that Kris really wanted to go and climb, 64 00:05:01,175 --> 00:05:03,720 climb that mountain. 65 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:05,596 I just thought, yeah, that makes sense. 66 00:05:05,596 --> 00:05:07,557 I can see why. 67 00:05:07,557 --> 00:05:10,268 It's a really special mountain. 68 00:05:10,268 --> 00:05:12,812 RICK: Okay, there's our mountain. 69 00:05:12,812 --> 00:05:14,314 KRIS: Oh, god. 70 00:05:14,314 --> 00:05:15,732 (laughing) 71 00:05:15,732 --> 00:05:17,525 No, really. 72 00:05:17,525 --> 00:05:20,987 I'm sorry, but oh my God. 73 00:05:20,987 --> 00:05:22,155 Look at that. 74 00:05:22,155 --> 00:05:24,073 MAN: Look at that one! It's a bit snowy. 75 00:05:24,073 --> 00:05:26,075 KRIS: A little bit. MAN: Just a tiny bit. 76 00:05:29,829 --> 00:05:32,290 (chatter) 77 00:05:32,832 --> 00:05:34,667 (horse nickers) 78 00:05:42,925 --> 00:05:47,347 KRIS: This is the farthest I've been inside this park. 79 00:05:49,682 --> 00:05:51,351 We never saw this. 80 00:05:51,351 --> 00:05:53,436 I mean, we fly a lot, but 81 00:05:53,436 --> 00:05:56,314 we never got on the ground enough. 82 00:05:56,314 --> 00:05:58,649 We didn't really explore. 83 00:05:58,649 --> 00:06:01,069 We just worked. 84 00:06:01,069 --> 00:06:04,614 This is a real wake up call for me. 85 00:06:16,167 --> 00:06:17,627 In the very beginning, 86 00:06:17,627 --> 00:06:20,755 Doug and I were living in the middle of this paradise, 87 00:06:20,755 --> 00:06:24,592 and we said it would be incredible to save this place. 88 00:06:24,592 --> 00:06:27,261 Just save it. 89 00:06:28,805 --> 00:06:31,557 Because of climate and all these other things, 90 00:06:31,557 --> 00:06:37,855 right now on any scorecard, nature is losing. 91 00:06:40,024 --> 00:06:44,278 What can you do today to try to save 92 00:06:44,278 --> 00:06:47,281 the critical areas of the planet? 93 00:06:51,327 --> 00:06:52,912 INTERVIEWER: What was your vision? 94 00:06:52,912 --> 00:06:54,455 What did you come here for? 95 00:06:54,455 --> 00:06:57,417 DOUG: We sort of started to make a master plan and started 96 00:06:57,417 --> 00:07:02,922 to realize it was possible to create a national park 97 00:07:02,922 --> 00:07:05,466 under a private initiative. 98 00:07:05,466 --> 00:07:09,095 With the idea that we would donate it back to the country. 99 00:07:09,095 --> 00:07:11,097 NEWSPERSON: The ultimate do it yourself approach to 100 00:07:11,097 --> 00:07:13,558 saving the earth: buying it. 101 00:07:14,100 --> 00:07:16,602 REPORTER: Tompkins and his wife, Kris, have assembled land 102 00:07:16,602 --> 00:07:20,148 for conservation on a scale never seen before. 103 00:07:20,148 --> 00:07:21,315 DOUG: Yeah, this is like the size of 104 00:07:21,315 --> 00:07:22,942 Yosemite National Park, here. 105 00:07:22,942 --> 00:07:25,069 INTERVIEWER: So that volcano over there, you bought that? 106 00:07:25,069 --> 00:07:26,904 DOUG: Yeah, that came with it. 107 00:07:26,904 --> 00:07:28,030 (laughs). 108 00:07:28,030 --> 00:07:30,324 NEWSPERSON: Some people here began asking just what were 109 00:07:30,324 --> 00:07:32,743 these Americans really up to? 110 00:07:33,453 --> 00:07:36,956 CLAUDIO: In our opinion, he's nothing more than a businessman 111 00:07:36,956 --> 00:07:38,374 masquerading as an ecologist. 112 00:07:39,459 --> 00:07:42,086 MICHELLE: I think in Chile, many people did not understand 113 00:07:42,086 --> 00:07:45,882 at the beginning what being an ecologist meant. 114 00:07:46,841 --> 00:07:51,137 Some people wanted it to be a place to invest, to invest, 115 00:07:51,137 --> 00:07:54,098 to produce energy with the river. 116 00:07:54,098 --> 00:07:57,393 Some others wanted to cut the forest. 117 00:07:58,102 --> 00:08:00,021 KRIS: We didn't know there were stakes, 118 00:08:00,021 --> 00:08:02,315 that was part of the problem. 119 00:08:02,315 --> 00:08:04,025 INTERVIEWER: Former president of Chile has accused your 120 00:08:04,025 --> 00:08:06,152 husband of throwing people off the land. 121 00:08:06,152 --> 00:08:09,739 It has been reported that you also have gotten death threats. 122 00:08:09,739 --> 00:08:13,075 KRIS: We had death threats for years, the phones tapped. 123 00:08:13,075 --> 00:08:15,953 No, there were huge stakes. 124 00:08:19,707 --> 00:08:24,295 For 25 years, I really put the shoulder to the wheel, 125 00:08:24,295 --> 00:08:29,008 and did everything to make what Doug wanted to do, possible. 126 00:08:30,176 --> 00:08:32,678 This is what you were talking about this morning. 127 00:08:32,678 --> 00:08:34,889 Is all of this. 128 00:08:34,889 --> 00:08:37,517 DOUG: See, I underlined that a long time ago because somebody 129 00:08:37,517 --> 00:08:39,519 told me that place was for sale. 130 00:08:39,519 --> 00:08:42,063 I came down to Chile in 1990, 131 00:08:42,063 --> 00:08:44,065 bought a house and was fixing it up. 132 00:08:44,065 --> 00:08:47,068 You know, we bought a piece of land, not with the idea of 133 00:08:47,068 --> 00:08:48,903 making any large park. 134 00:08:48,903 --> 00:08:51,322 But then another piece became available and then a very big 135 00:08:51,322 --> 00:08:52,740 piece came available. 136 00:08:52,740 --> 00:08:55,618 And pretty soon we had the makings of a park. 137 00:08:59,539 --> 00:09:02,250 DAGO: On the one hand you had a crazy man, 138 00:09:02,250 --> 00:09:04,961 with the dream of making a park. 139 00:09:04,961 --> 00:09:06,921 And on the other hand, 140 00:09:06,921 --> 00:09:13,344 you had someone who would make that dream come true 141 00:09:13,344 --> 00:09:14,804 on a national level. 142 00:09:16,889 --> 00:09:20,643 KRIS: She says I want to fly with you but don't fall... 143 00:09:20,643 --> 00:09:22,895 Don't crash, don't crash. 144 00:09:23,354 --> 00:09:26,732 EDGAR: There was a deep, deep union and 145 00:09:26,732 --> 00:09:28,442 devotion to each other. 146 00:09:28,442 --> 00:09:30,069 They came together with a common vision and they 147 00:09:30,069 --> 00:09:33,072 fought like cats in a bag. 148 00:09:38,244 --> 00:09:40,162 DOUG: We can bicker with each other. 149 00:09:40,162 --> 00:09:45,585 KRIS: No, I think it's a desire to work against the 150 00:09:45,585 --> 00:09:48,963 trend of the destruction of wild nature. 151 00:09:50,548 --> 00:09:54,760 I think that is as big a bond and strong a bond as any 152 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:57,430 two people can have. 153 00:10:01,058 --> 00:10:06,272 ♪ ♪ 154 00:10:14,989 --> 00:10:17,450 TIMMY: If you don't mind like, taking a little break... 155 00:10:17,450 --> 00:10:18,576 JIMMY: Here, or up there? 156 00:10:18,576 --> 00:10:20,161 TIMMY: No, no. Up at the edge of the forest. 157 00:10:20,161 --> 00:10:23,706 JIMMY: Yeah, agreed. Just another 200-300 feet. 158 00:10:23,706 --> 00:10:25,875 TIMMY: Yeah. Sounds good. 159 00:10:25,875 --> 00:10:27,752 JIMMY: How you doing, Kris? 160 00:10:27,752 --> 00:10:29,545 KRIS: I'm okay. 161 00:10:29,545 --> 00:10:32,298 JIMMY: Good. 162 00:10:33,382 --> 00:10:35,801 KRIS: I always said I want to live at one end of the 163 00:10:35,801 --> 00:10:39,513 spectrum or the other, but never in the middle. 164 00:10:39,513 --> 00:10:41,974 And before I died, I wanted this life. 165 00:10:41,974 --> 00:10:45,519 I didn't know what this was, but I knew I wanted something 166 00:10:45,519 --> 00:10:50,316 wild, outrageous. 167 00:10:50,316 --> 00:10:52,068 Risky in the sense of 168 00:10:52,068 --> 00:10:55,237 changing everything that was so comfortable. 169 00:11:02,161 --> 00:11:05,498 Doug would be so happy for me, 170 00:11:05,498 --> 00:11:08,084 and proud of me to walk up there 171 00:11:08,084 --> 00:11:12,380 and see what the highest place in the park looks like. 172 00:11:15,424 --> 00:11:20,054 For me, this is a way to say a final goodbye to him. 173 00:11:23,182 --> 00:11:27,603 Doug made the first ascent of this mountain back in 2008. 174 00:11:28,771 --> 00:11:32,733 He was a climber, and it was always his first love. 175 00:11:37,863 --> 00:11:40,533 Doug grew up in the Northeast. 176 00:11:40,533 --> 00:11:44,704 He started climbing in the Gunks when he was in middle school. 177 00:11:45,955 --> 00:11:48,666 He had no interest in school. 178 00:11:48,666 --> 00:11:50,918 Never went to college. 179 00:11:50,918 --> 00:11:56,173 He found it a worthless way to spend your life: conforming. 180 00:11:56,549 --> 00:12:00,803 He just rejected all of it. 181 00:12:01,387 --> 00:12:03,139 And left. 182 00:12:03,139 --> 00:12:04,890 ♪ My distractions ♪♪ 183 00:12:04,890 --> 00:12:07,601 KRIS: At 17. 184 00:12:07,601 --> 00:12:09,937 Drove west. 185 00:12:11,564 --> 00:12:13,733 I don't think, he had no money. 186 00:12:13,733 --> 00:12:16,152 He had no idea how, what he would do out there, 187 00:12:16,152 --> 00:12:17,194 what he would find. 188 00:12:17,194 --> 00:12:22,074 ♪ And sweet whiskey stop to say hello ♪♪ 189 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:26,036 YVON: Doug eventually ended up in Yosemite and climbing in 190 00:12:26,036 --> 00:12:30,332 the valley and stuff, and I climbed with him there. 191 00:12:30,708 --> 00:12:34,462 We became just, really good friends. 192 00:12:35,212 --> 00:12:37,965 KRIS: Years later, it was Yvon who eventually brought 193 00:12:37,965 --> 00:12:40,468 Doug and me together. 194 00:12:40,926 --> 00:12:43,220 JIMMY: Doug and Yvon were best friends and 195 00:12:43,220 --> 00:12:45,514 lifelong climbing partners. 196 00:12:45,514 --> 00:12:47,892 They were both world class climbers. 197 00:12:47,892 --> 00:12:51,145 I mean, these were the original dirtbag climbers and 198 00:12:51,145 --> 00:12:52,897 surfers and skiers. 199 00:12:52,897 --> 00:12:55,858 Who would go on to create the outdoor clothing business 200 00:12:55,858 --> 00:12:57,943 as we know it. 201 00:12:58,486 --> 00:13:01,864 KRIS: Doug really looked up to Yvon, 202 00:13:01,864 --> 00:13:05,493 and that relationship changed over the 50 years. 203 00:13:05,493 --> 00:13:08,996 And Yvon really listened to Doug when they entered into 204 00:13:08,996 --> 00:13:11,624 their business lives. 205 00:13:12,082 --> 00:13:13,876 YVON: Somehow he talked himself in getting the 206 00:13:13,876 --> 00:13:17,213 franchise for a hot dog stand in Yosemite. 207 00:13:17,213 --> 00:13:19,590 He ran a hotdog stand and climbed. 208 00:13:20,341 --> 00:13:23,052 He was an entrepreneur. 209 00:13:23,052 --> 00:13:25,596 And if you want to understand the entrepreneur, 210 00:13:25,596 --> 00:13:28,098 study the juvenile delinquent. 211 00:13:28,098 --> 00:13:30,643 Because they're saying this sucks, 212 00:13:30,643 --> 00:13:32,186 I'm going to do it my own way. 213 00:13:32,186 --> 00:13:33,813 And you know, Doug became a businessman 214 00:13:33,813 --> 00:13:36,148 before anybody else. 215 00:13:36,148 --> 00:13:40,152 I mean, I was a blacksmith and I was making climbing gear, 216 00:13:40,152 --> 00:13:43,823 but I didn't consider myself a businessman until way later. 217 00:13:47,451 --> 00:13:50,704 I was climbing six months a year and I started 218 00:13:50,704 --> 00:13:53,666 making climbing gear. 219 00:13:53,666 --> 00:13:56,335 I was growing the business in all the normal ways, 220 00:13:56,335 --> 00:13:58,838 but we had a lot of different ideas. 221 00:13:58,838 --> 00:14:02,550 And so we had this policy of basically, 222 00:14:02,550 --> 00:14:04,343 work when you have to work 223 00:14:04,343 --> 00:14:06,470 and play when you have to play. 224 00:14:06,470 --> 00:14:08,055 And when the surf comes up, take off. 225 00:14:08,055 --> 00:14:10,057 Go surfing. 226 00:14:10,057 --> 00:14:11,809 And that's when I met Kris. 227 00:14:11,809 --> 00:14:15,646 ♪ Dee-dee dee-dee Dee-dee dee-dee ♪ 228 00:14:15,646 --> 00:14:18,065 ♪ Well, east coast girls are hip ♪ 229 00:14:18,065 --> 00:14:23,362 ♪ I really dig those styles they wear ♪ 230 00:14:23,362 --> 00:14:25,739 ♪ And the southern girls ♪ 231 00:14:25,739 --> 00:14:27,783 ♪ With the way they talk ♪ 232 00:14:27,783 --> 00:14:31,537 ♪ They knock me out when I'm down there ♪♪ 233 00:14:32,580 --> 00:14:35,332 ♪ The Midwest farmers' daughters ♪ 234 00:14:35,332 --> 00:14:38,460 ♪ Really make you feel all right ♪♪ 235 00:14:38,460 --> 00:14:40,170 YVON: She was a surfer girl. 236 00:14:40,170 --> 00:14:41,547 You know, never wore shoes. 237 00:14:41,547 --> 00:14:43,841 In fact, when she was in high school, 238 00:14:43,841 --> 00:14:45,759 she'd go to school barefooted 239 00:14:45,759 --> 00:14:48,137 and the teacher would go pretty crazy. 240 00:14:48,137 --> 00:14:50,514 She was a little juvenile delinquent herself. 241 00:14:50,514 --> 00:14:52,975 ♪ I wish they all could be California ♪ 242 00:14:52,975 --> 00:14:55,603 MELINDA: Kris was Yvon's next door neighbor. 243 00:14:55,603 --> 00:15:00,190 She was probably 15 or 16 when I first met her. 244 00:15:00,190 --> 00:15:02,192 She was extraordinarily friendly. 245 00:15:02,192 --> 00:15:03,611 She loves to talk. 246 00:15:03,611 --> 00:15:06,989 She loves to do things, but she's very meticulous. 247 00:15:10,576 --> 00:15:13,579 KRIS: We, grew up on our great grandfather's ranch 248 00:15:13,579 --> 00:15:15,831 in California. 249 00:15:15,831 --> 00:15:21,337 When I was eight, my father and his oil company 250 00:15:21,337 --> 00:15:24,465 decided to go to Venezuela. 251 00:15:24,882 --> 00:15:28,218 Little Hamlet in the Orinoco Basin. 252 00:15:31,722 --> 00:15:34,892 My father became very ill one afternoon and 253 00:15:34,892 --> 00:15:39,271 he was dead five days later of bulbar polio. 254 00:15:44,485 --> 00:15:48,489 After our father died, our mother remarried to our 255 00:15:48,489 --> 00:15:50,824 really close family friend. 256 00:15:51,241 --> 00:15:54,745 He was a real go-getter and he had four kids. 257 00:15:54,745 --> 00:15:56,497 So there were seven of us. 258 00:15:56,497 --> 00:15:58,749 And we were called the hooligans. 259 00:15:58,749 --> 00:16:01,502 We were wild. 260 00:16:01,835 --> 00:16:04,380 My father wanted his kids to be the ones who'd fling 261 00:16:04,380 --> 00:16:07,257 themselves off the high diving board. 262 00:16:07,257 --> 00:16:09,718 Nothing was impossible. 263 00:16:09,718 --> 00:16:13,472 And I was the one who responded to all of that. 264 00:16:14,181 --> 00:16:17,643 The thing that was asked of us was, be great at what you do. 265 00:16:17,643 --> 00:16:20,396 I don't care what it is, but be great at it. 266 00:16:24,566 --> 00:16:28,028 ♪ ♪ 267 00:16:28,028 --> 00:16:30,489 I refused to go to private school, 268 00:16:30,489 --> 00:16:31,907 but the local high school 269 00:16:31,907 --> 00:16:34,201 was such a bad high school 270 00:16:34,201 --> 00:16:36,412 that I started going to the beach and 271 00:16:36,412 --> 00:16:40,082 hanging out with an older brother and Yvon Chouinard. 272 00:16:40,082 --> 00:16:42,793 This is when I'm 15 years old. 273 00:16:42,793 --> 00:16:47,923 He was absolutely clear about who he was. 274 00:16:47,923 --> 00:16:53,012 On the other hand, I am much more like a pebble in a stream 275 00:16:53,012 --> 00:16:57,641 and it just kind of knocks along, gets moved down river, 276 00:16:57,641 --> 00:17:01,437 and I get hooked on one rock and then maybe a little 277 00:17:01,437 --> 00:17:04,648 current takes me out and keeps me going. 278 00:17:05,274 --> 00:17:08,819 Anyway, I came home from my first year at college 279 00:17:08,819 --> 00:17:10,779 and my mother sat me down and said, 280 00:17:10,779 --> 00:17:12,781 "You have to get a job." 281 00:17:12,781 --> 00:17:16,160 So I went to Yvon and I was complaining and 282 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:20,372 he hired me for the summer for $2 an hour. 283 00:17:21,707 --> 00:17:25,335 YVON: So she started working for me as an assistant packer. 284 00:17:25,335 --> 00:17:26,920 (laughs). 285 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:28,297 Assistant packer? 286 00:17:28,297 --> 00:17:29,798 That's as low as you can get. 287 00:17:29,798 --> 00:17:31,383 Hah! 288 00:17:31,383 --> 00:17:33,969 She just kind of worked her way up the company, 289 00:17:33,969 --> 00:17:38,974 and we slowly learned how to run a business together. 290 00:17:40,768 --> 00:17:44,354 Doug had started his own business as well. 291 00:17:44,813 --> 00:17:46,857 DOUG: We started a guide service. 292 00:17:46,857 --> 00:17:49,902 California Mountaineering Guide Service, it was called. 293 00:17:49,902 --> 00:17:53,530 And that became the reason that I started the North Face. 294 00:17:54,907 --> 00:17:56,992 I needed equipment to supply the clients 295 00:17:56,992 --> 00:17:59,787 to the guide service. 296 00:18:00,120 --> 00:18:03,415 KRIS: It was about this time that Doug met Susie. 297 00:18:04,083 --> 00:18:07,211 DOUG: My first wife, Susie, I met hitchhiking. 298 00:18:07,211 --> 00:18:09,838 She picked me up hitchhiking. 299 00:18:15,094 --> 00:18:18,680 SUSIE: One day I'm driving on an in an area called Emerald Bay 300 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:24,144 in Lake Tahoe and there's this guy hitchhiking. 301 00:18:24,144 --> 00:18:25,604 So I stopped and picked him up, and he had ropes 302 00:18:25,604 --> 00:18:28,440 and he had all his climbing gear. 303 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:29,983 He was so arrogant. 304 00:18:29,983 --> 00:18:31,485 I just remember thinking, 305 00:18:31,485 --> 00:18:33,070 What a jerk this guy is, 306 00:18:33,070 --> 00:18:36,115 but there's something kind of cool, too. 307 00:18:36,740 --> 00:18:38,659 Eventually we got married. 308 00:18:38,659 --> 00:18:41,870 We lived in North Beach in San Francisco. 309 00:18:41,870 --> 00:18:46,667 When we opened the North Face, we invited this group called 310 00:18:46,667 --> 00:18:50,420 the Grateful Dead to play at our opening. 311 00:18:51,755 --> 00:18:54,675 Doug had a great time building it out 312 00:18:54,675 --> 00:18:57,719 and it was really beautiful. 313 00:18:58,262 --> 00:19:01,557 KRIS: He created this unique environment to sell different 314 00:19:01,557 --> 00:19:05,310 kind of clothing and climbing equipment. 315 00:19:07,187 --> 00:19:10,232 SUSIE: The North Face kept growing and then Doug got very 316 00:19:10,232 --> 00:19:12,943 restless because he wanted to go away and go climbing 317 00:19:12,943 --> 00:19:15,112 and not be tied down. 318 00:19:15,112 --> 00:19:17,865 And so, we sold it. 319 00:19:19,158 --> 00:19:22,119 YVON: At that time, Susie had started Esprit. 320 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:25,205 She was in partnership with another woman. 321 00:19:26,331 --> 00:19:29,501 SUSIE: We'd been out selling off of these very, very 322 00:19:29,501 --> 00:19:32,337 amateur samples we had made. 323 00:19:32,337 --> 00:19:34,840 And so I remember showing him the orders. 324 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:36,633 Doug just looked at it and kind of shook his head and 325 00:19:36,633 --> 00:19:40,095 was just like, "Wow, there's an opportunity!" 326 00:19:40,095 --> 00:19:42,639 We were in business. 327 00:19:43,182 --> 00:19:47,019 So then Esprit became a big label, and then we took off. 328 00:19:48,854 --> 00:19:50,814 DOUG: Really built the Esprit company up. 329 00:19:50,814 --> 00:19:53,108 Eventually expanded internationally with a lot of 330 00:19:53,108 --> 00:19:54,776 partners all around the world, 331 00:19:54,776 --> 00:19:58,780 from Asia to Australia to Europe. 332 00:20:11,376 --> 00:20:15,297 (horse nickers) 333 00:20:16,924 --> 00:20:19,760 KRIS: We're here in the middle of what will hopefully become 334 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:22,179 Patagonia National Park. 335 00:20:22,179 --> 00:20:25,557 But what's going to happen to this? 336 00:20:25,557 --> 00:20:28,977 It's one thing to have a big idea, 337 00:20:28,977 --> 00:20:30,687 but it's quite another thing 338 00:20:30,687 --> 00:20:33,649 to be able to realize it. 339 00:20:33,649 --> 00:20:36,526 And that's where it takes working really closely 340 00:20:36,526 --> 00:20:39,029 with the government. 341 00:20:40,489 --> 00:20:44,117 This park is one of five new parks. 342 00:20:44,117 --> 00:20:48,538 In every case, we've bought significant territory and 343 00:20:48,538 --> 00:20:51,541 proposed to the government to partner with us 344 00:20:51,541 --> 00:20:55,587 and contribute additional federal lands. 345 00:20:59,341 --> 00:21:01,969 DOUG: Alacalufes Reserve can easily be a national park 346 00:21:01,969 --> 00:21:04,972 without losing any productive opportunities. 347 00:21:06,682 --> 00:21:09,351 RICK: It would be so wonderful if all these projects were 348 00:21:09,351 --> 00:21:13,897 ever to actually become fledged national parks. 349 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:18,777 Being convinced that that was actually going to happen 350 00:21:18,777 --> 00:21:21,655 was another thing. 351 00:21:21,655 --> 00:21:23,615 CAROLINA: Chile has been a country totally based on 352 00:21:23,615 --> 00:21:25,867 extractive economy. 353 00:21:27,536 --> 00:21:31,456 It is said that mining is the salary of Chile, 354 00:21:31,456 --> 00:21:34,751 it is more than 60% of our exports. 355 00:21:34,751 --> 00:21:37,587 Today, Chile is the world's largest copper producer and 356 00:21:37,587 --> 00:21:40,465 the second largest lithium producer. 357 00:21:41,758 --> 00:21:44,094 DOUG: Chile is a mining country. 358 00:21:44,386 --> 00:21:47,431 It's an extractive economy. 359 00:21:47,431 --> 00:21:51,351 The mining industry is a pollutant. 360 00:21:52,769 --> 00:21:55,731 RODRIGO: The politicians economical sense was to 361 00:21:55,731 --> 00:21:58,233 exploit those lands and the forests. 362 00:21:58,233 --> 00:21:59,985 So, you know, the people that were at the government at the 363 00:21:59,985 --> 00:22:04,865 time didn't get the idea of the park. 364 00:22:07,409 --> 00:22:08,869 YVON: In Latin America, 365 00:22:08,869 --> 00:22:11,246 there's no history of land philanthropy. 366 00:22:11,246 --> 00:22:14,249 So here comes this wacko American, 367 00:22:14,249 --> 00:22:15,834 goes down there and he says, 368 00:22:15,834 --> 00:22:19,254 I'm gonna buy up all this land in Chile, 369 00:22:19,254 --> 00:22:20,797 and I'm gonna make parks and 370 00:22:20,797 --> 00:22:22,924 I'm gonna give it back to the people. 371 00:22:22,924 --> 00:22:27,471 And they're going, come on, nobody does that. 372 00:22:27,471 --> 00:22:28,597 (laughs). 373 00:22:28,597 --> 00:22:31,183 No, there's gotta be another reason. 374 00:22:32,351 --> 00:22:38,482 (chatter) 375 00:22:45,489 --> 00:22:48,367 KRIS: Doug started coming down here in 1961. 376 00:22:48,367 --> 00:22:50,994 He was ski racing, and all ski racers trained 377 00:22:50,994 --> 00:22:53,246 in the off season. 378 00:22:53,246 --> 00:22:57,042 So that's how he began to understand what Argentina and 379 00:22:57,042 --> 00:22:58,710 Chile were like. 380 00:22:58,710 --> 00:23:02,756 And he really liked it from the beginning. 381 00:23:03,090 --> 00:23:07,260 So he had this love affair with Patagonia. 382 00:23:15,477 --> 00:23:17,979 YVON: It was his idea to go down to Patagonia. 383 00:23:17,979 --> 00:23:19,940 So we took off two weeks later. 384 00:23:19,940 --> 00:23:23,402 We bought an old van, filled it up with skis and surfboards 385 00:23:23,402 --> 00:23:26,613 and climbing gear. 386 00:23:30,367 --> 00:23:33,161 Driving, I don't know, 10,000, 12,000 miles 387 00:23:33,161 --> 00:23:35,914 or whatever it is. 388 00:23:35,914 --> 00:23:38,875 It was a great adventure. 389 00:23:39,418 --> 00:23:41,670 JIMMY: Super legendary trip. 390 00:23:42,712 --> 00:23:46,675 I mean, they defined an entire era. 391 00:23:46,675 --> 00:23:50,303 They defined an entire way of life. 392 00:23:51,471 --> 00:23:56,059 Climbing, surfing, skiing un-skied peaks. 393 00:23:56,059 --> 00:23:59,229 And eventually climbing one of the most difficult and 394 00:23:59,229 --> 00:24:02,816 significant first ascents of their time. 395 00:24:04,651 --> 00:24:08,196 YVON: We spent 60 days trying to climb Fitz Roy. 396 00:24:09,406 --> 00:24:12,868 We spent 31 days in an ice cave. 397 00:24:13,785 --> 00:24:18,248 I think we had five days where you had climbable weather. 398 00:24:23,378 --> 00:24:27,090 DOUG: I was gone for, you know, nine months. 399 00:24:27,090 --> 00:24:29,217 Yvon Chouinard, an old friend of mine and 400 00:24:29,217 --> 00:24:30,677 three other friends. 401 00:24:30,677 --> 00:24:33,096 We were in Chile a very long time. 402 00:24:33,096 --> 00:24:36,558 YVON: We fell in love with Patagonia, the area. 403 00:24:36,558 --> 00:24:39,686 That was my first time in Patagonia. 404 00:24:39,686 --> 00:24:43,356 It was like the American West of 100 years ago, 405 00:24:43,356 --> 00:24:46,359 but it was authentic. 406 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:49,905 So that trip was long enough so that we really, 407 00:24:49,905 --> 00:24:52,866 it transformed our lives. 408 00:24:55,827 --> 00:24:59,414 RICK: When Yvon came down to Patagonia, the place, in 1968 409 00:24:59,414 --> 00:25:04,252 with Doug Tompkins to climb Fitz Roy, it was wild. 410 00:25:05,587 --> 00:25:07,923 Then we went back exactly 20 years later. 411 00:25:07,923 --> 00:25:10,592 And, it was different. 412 00:25:10,592 --> 00:25:12,344 YVON: Look at this, they got the streets all 413 00:25:12,344 --> 00:25:14,513 laid out and everything. 414 00:25:14,513 --> 00:25:16,306 MAN: They'll be opening up a McDonald's and a Wimpy's. 415 00:25:16,306 --> 00:25:18,975 (laughs). 416 00:25:20,018 --> 00:25:22,187 RICK: The developers had laid out the grid and put up the 417 00:25:22,187 --> 00:25:25,899 street signs for what became the city of Chaiten. 418 00:25:26,691 --> 00:25:28,818 We also began to notice, 419 00:25:28,818 --> 00:25:31,321 way back, a long time ago, 420 00:25:31,321 --> 00:25:33,573 that things were warming up. 421 00:25:33,573 --> 00:25:36,159 We became aware that the glaciers were 422 00:25:36,159 --> 00:25:37,953 starting to retreat. 423 00:25:37,953 --> 00:25:42,415 We started to learn more about climate change. 424 00:25:42,999 --> 00:25:49,589 And Doug was like the first guy to, to really sense that. 425 00:25:51,091 --> 00:25:53,969 EDGAR: I think it was a dual aspect of his voracious 426 00:25:53,969 --> 00:25:57,180 reading and his being introduced to certain people 427 00:25:57,180 --> 00:26:00,308 who led him to other books. 428 00:26:00,809 --> 00:26:03,061 YVON: He got very much involved with deep ecology and 429 00:26:03,061 --> 00:26:07,566 it was a natural fit because all these deep ecologists 430 00:26:07,566 --> 00:26:09,526 were all climbers. 431 00:26:09,526 --> 00:26:11,570 They saw nature being destroyed and 432 00:26:11,570 --> 00:26:15,031 if we destroy nature, we destroy ourselves. 433 00:26:15,407 --> 00:26:19,452 KRIS: Deep ecology is simply looking at all life 434 00:26:19,452 --> 00:26:22,414 as being interconnected. 435 00:26:22,414 --> 00:26:26,209 All life has intrinsic value. 436 00:26:27,669 --> 00:26:32,591 It is not reliant on humans placing value on it. 437 00:26:37,929 --> 00:26:42,642 ♪ ♪ 438 00:26:42,642 --> 00:26:46,021 YVON: After being down in Patagonia, I thought, 439 00:26:46,021 --> 00:26:49,608 I want to make clothing for the conditions down there. 440 00:26:52,777 --> 00:26:57,407 KRIS: Yvon said, "I want to make some jackets." 441 00:26:58,074 --> 00:27:00,577 "I want to call it Patagonia." 442 00:27:02,787 --> 00:27:06,541 YVON: Patagonia. It's one of those magical names. 443 00:27:06,541 --> 00:27:09,377 And the label that we came up with 444 00:27:09,377 --> 00:27:14,174 has got that skyline of Fitz Roy. 445 00:27:14,174 --> 00:27:18,178 KRIS: For one reason or another, he said to me, 446 00:27:18,178 --> 00:27:21,139 you should take this on. 447 00:27:21,139 --> 00:27:25,226 I ended up creating it, running it, growing it. 448 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,523 MELINDA: Yvon has lots and lots of ideas, 449 00:27:30,523 --> 00:27:33,068 but he doesn't know how to get there. 450 00:27:33,068 --> 00:27:37,113 And Kris could do it and she also didn't do the bad ideas. 451 00:27:37,113 --> 00:27:39,532 That's the important part. 452 00:27:40,659 --> 00:27:44,037 YVON: She was driven and very confident. 453 00:27:44,037 --> 00:27:47,916 Eventually she was our CEO and general manager. 454 00:27:51,628 --> 00:27:53,922 KRIS: Once Patagonia got going, 455 00:27:53,922 --> 00:27:59,052 it was, especially for its day, really a freight train. 456 00:28:00,929 --> 00:28:03,723 And then in the early 80s, 457 00:28:03,723 --> 00:28:06,893 Yvon decided that we should take Patagonia, 458 00:28:06,893 --> 00:28:10,480 and turn it into an activist company. 459 00:28:12,357 --> 00:28:14,526 YVON: I was building my business and I was getting 460 00:28:14,526 --> 00:28:16,736 concerned about the environment. 461 00:28:16,736 --> 00:28:19,698 I felt like I was going to push my business to be 462 00:28:19,698 --> 00:28:22,158 more and more responsible. 463 00:28:22,951 --> 00:28:25,620 But Doug didn't do that. 464 00:28:25,620 --> 00:28:29,749 He was strictly building it as big as you possibly could. 465 00:28:29,999 --> 00:28:31,626 (laughing) 466 00:28:31,626 --> 00:28:33,962 PHOTOGRAPHER: Okay Fred Astaire, go ahead. 467 00:28:38,550 --> 00:28:40,677 NEWSPERSON: Tompkins is not a fashion designer. 468 00:28:40,677 --> 00:28:43,513 The Esprit look is created by his wife Susie. 469 00:28:43,513 --> 00:28:45,348 But everything else having to do with the company's image 470 00:28:45,348 --> 00:28:48,727 and communicating it to the public he oversees himself. 471 00:28:49,894 --> 00:28:51,980 DOUG: Oh yeah, she's great. Julie Hall, definitely. 472 00:28:51,980 --> 00:28:54,065 WOMAN: Okay. 473 00:28:54,649 --> 00:28:58,361 ♪ Turn your back on Mother Nature ♪ 474 00:28:58,361 --> 00:29:02,240 ♪ Everybody wants to rule the world ♪♪ 475 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:05,076 EDGAR: Esprit had its own apartment in Milano. 476 00:29:05,076 --> 00:29:07,454 Esprit had an apartment in Paris. 477 00:29:07,454 --> 00:29:10,665 Esprit had an apartment in New York City and Tokyo. 478 00:29:10,665 --> 00:29:13,334 You'd walk into the house and see a Francis Bacon triptych 479 00:29:13,334 --> 00:29:17,922 worth $5 million sitting above the fireplace. 480 00:29:21,634 --> 00:29:24,471 The heyday of Esprit was when he was totally devoted and 481 00:29:24,471 --> 00:29:28,475 totally into being the worldwide entrepreneur 482 00:29:28,475 --> 00:29:30,810 of a fashion mega business. 483 00:29:30,810 --> 00:29:32,771 And then there was the change. 484 00:29:32,771 --> 00:29:34,022 (clicks tongue) 485 00:29:35,565 --> 00:29:38,234 DOUG: I think it really changed a lot. 486 00:29:38,234 --> 00:29:43,865 I just, you know, passed through that gate somewhere 487 00:29:43,865 --> 00:29:46,826 towards the end of the late 80s. 488 00:29:46,826 --> 00:29:50,497 And I just said, I've got to do something else. 489 00:29:50,497 --> 00:29:55,043 KRIS: I think he felt lost. 490 00:29:55,043 --> 00:29:58,379 He was lost by his own hand. 491 00:29:59,088 --> 00:30:02,425 DOUG: First order of business in the fashion industry is to 492 00:30:02,425 --> 00:30:06,054 create the sense of desire, 493 00:30:06,054 --> 00:30:08,056 that you needed new things. 494 00:30:08,056 --> 00:30:10,308 And I started to realize I shouldn't be doing that 495 00:30:10,308 --> 00:30:13,853 because I was just adding to the destruction of the world. 496 00:30:16,147 --> 00:30:19,234 EDGAR: So in the latter years of Esprit their catalogs and 497 00:30:19,234 --> 00:30:21,820 the copy in them is trying to talk you out of 498 00:30:21,820 --> 00:30:24,572 buying the clothes. 499 00:30:25,323 --> 00:30:27,325 SUSIE: I mean, you can't do that and still, you know, 500 00:30:27,325 --> 00:30:29,828 try to figure out how you're going to pay everybody and 501 00:30:29,828 --> 00:30:32,455 move your company forward. 502 00:30:32,705 --> 00:30:37,043 In the early 90s, I just couldn't take it anymore 503 00:30:37,043 --> 00:30:40,421 and the company was struggling and I had to just make a 504 00:30:40,421 --> 00:30:44,592 decision that I had to try to save Esprit. 505 00:30:45,009 --> 00:30:49,514 RICK: He and Susie had split and they had to 506 00:30:49,514 --> 00:30:52,559 split the company as well. 507 00:30:52,559 --> 00:30:56,604 She bought him out and it was because he was interested in 508 00:30:56,604 --> 00:30:59,774 heading in new directions. 509 00:31:13,872 --> 00:31:15,748 PETER: He got to go back to where he was, 510 00:31:15,748 --> 00:31:18,167 the last time he was really happy probably, 511 00:31:18,167 --> 00:31:20,837 which was Patagonia. 512 00:31:27,844 --> 00:31:34,559 ♪ ♪ 513 00:31:37,395 --> 00:31:38,980 LITO: I think it was a big transition, 514 00:31:38,980 --> 00:31:41,190 but one that was important to him. 515 00:31:41,608 --> 00:31:43,776 He was the same guy, but a different guy. 516 00:31:43,776 --> 00:31:46,613 I think a more interesting guy, actually. 517 00:31:47,322 --> 00:31:51,743 RICK: Moving to South America to commit to a project that 518 00:31:51,743 --> 00:31:55,580 seemed like a dream of some sort. 519 00:31:55,580 --> 00:31:58,958 Because that was his mantra: commit and then figure it out. 520 00:31:58,958 --> 00:32:00,752 And that's exactly what he did. 521 00:32:00,752 --> 00:32:04,130 He committed everything he had. 522 00:32:07,091 --> 00:32:08,885 CAROLINA: He didn't come here with a plan. 523 00:32:08,885 --> 00:32:11,471 When he came to Chile he just wanted to get out 524 00:32:11,471 --> 00:32:14,349 of the Esprit business. 525 00:32:14,974 --> 00:32:18,144 And being a pilot, he realized that all the farms were owned 526 00:32:18,144 --> 00:32:20,563 by absentee owners. 527 00:32:20,563 --> 00:32:23,983 So he bought, you know, little farms from small farmers that 528 00:32:23,983 --> 00:32:26,819 they wanted to move on. 529 00:32:26,819 --> 00:32:31,074 Doug bought that 800 hectare farm, Renihue. 530 00:32:32,742 --> 00:32:37,038 DOUG: Well, right actually, where we're sitting right now, 531 00:32:37,038 --> 00:32:38,831 I lived here for a year and a half. 532 00:32:38,831 --> 00:32:43,127 This right here was the living room and the kitchen, 533 00:32:43,127 --> 00:32:48,341 and dining room while I fixed up the old main house 534 00:32:48,341 --> 00:32:50,051 across the way. 535 00:32:50,051 --> 00:32:52,720 And it was, you know, no electricity, 536 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:56,557 we have ten feet by eight feet, 537 00:32:56,557 --> 00:32:59,644 or 12 feet by eight feet. 538 00:32:59,644 --> 00:33:02,939 And the, uh, yeah, you know... 539 00:33:02,939 --> 00:33:04,524 YVON: Whatever. DOUG: Whatever that is. 540 00:33:04,524 --> 00:33:07,318 (laughs). 541 00:33:08,069 --> 00:33:11,239 You've got two bedrooms, this is a two bedroom house. 542 00:33:12,699 --> 00:33:15,076 EDGAR: He had a body of money. 543 00:33:15,076 --> 00:33:16,744 It wasn't billionaire money. 544 00:33:16,744 --> 00:33:19,080 It was a chunk, a big chunk. 545 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:21,040 Like 150 million. 546 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:25,628 And he could do a thing and he chose a thing. 547 00:33:26,796 --> 00:33:30,216 CAROLINA: Our first approach was to protect that land. 548 00:33:30,216 --> 00:33:33,636 But in those areas, where there that was the possibility, 549 00:33:33,636 --> 00:33:36,305 was to build demonstrative farms. 550 00:33:36,305 --> 00:33:39,559 Farms where we could show ourselves, first of all, 551 00:33:39,559 --> 00:33:43,062 and then the rest of the people that maybe it was possible to 552 00:33:43,062 --> 00:33:45,982 live in this area, not cutting the trees, 553 00:33:45,982 --> 00:33:49,277 that that wasn't your only choice of living there. 554 00:33:51,279 --> 00:33:55,742 So we start in the farms, we planted berries, 555 00:33:55,742 --> 00:33:59,912 developed honey, and we made jams, 556 00:33:59,912 --> 00:34:02,790 and we had the sheep and we got the wool. 557 00:34:02,790 --> 00:34:06,961 And with the wool we created a network of hand knit craft. 558 00:34:06,961 --> 00:34:08,212 Was that profitable? 559 00:34:08,212 --> 00:34:09,630 No, it wasn't. 560 00:34:09,630 --> 00:34:12,842 You know, every time we sold a jar of honey, we gave you $5, 561 00:34:12,842 --> 00:34:15,136 Doug used to say that. 562 00:34:15,136 --> 00:34:17,555 But he said he could do that. 563 00:34:17,555 --> 00:34:21,517 He could choose to be ecologically sustainable 564 00:34:21,517 --> 00:34:24,145 and maybe not economically sustainable. 565 00:34:24,145 --> 00:34:27,148 And we had the chance to provide work for many people. 566 00:34:35,323 --> 00:34:38,910 YVON: He used to rag on me in that I should sell my company 567 00:34:38,910 --> 00:34:42,663 and do the same thing he's doing, 568 00:34:42,663 --> 00:34:44,665 that he's doing the right thing 569 00:34:44,665 --> 00:34:46,292 and I'm doing the wrong thing. 570 00:34:46,292 --> 00:34:49,670 And I wanted to run my company in a responsible way, 571 00:34:49,670 --> 00:34:53,966 hanging on to my company and using it as a tool. 572 00:34:56,052 --> 00:34:59,347 To do that, I said, okay we got to reassess 573 00:34:59,347 --> 00:35:00,932 what we're doing here. 574 00:35:00,932 --> 00:35:02,266 Our new mission statement is 575 00:35:02,266 --> 00:35:04,352 'We're in business to save our home planet.' 576 00:35:04,352 --> 00:35:08,481 And so I took a dozen of our top people 577 00:35:08,481 --> 00:35:12,110 of the company and went down to Patagonia. 578 00:35:15,613 --> 00:35:19,158 And that's when Doug met Kris, that same trip. 579 00:35:19,158 --> 00:35:25,164 ♪ ♪ 580 00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:27,834 KRIS: We were in Calafate, 581 00:35:27,834 --> 00:35:30,378 which was then a really tiny town. 582 00:35:30,878 --> 00:35:35,091 We were in this restaurant and in walks Doug Tompkins. 583 00:35:37,009 --> 00:35:40,596 And he comes over and he plunks himself down next to me 584 00:35:40,596 --> 00:35:43,683 and says, Boom! 585 00:35:43,683 --> 00:35:46,227 "Hey, kid, how you doing?" 586 00:35:46,811 --> 00:35:49,105 And then he says, this is classic Doug, 587 00:35:49,105 --> 00:35:50,940 he said, "What are you doing?" 588 00:35:50,940 --> 00:35:52,900 I said, "Well, we're leaving tomorrow morning." 589 00:35:52,900 --> 00:35:54,193 "Why are you leaving?" 590 00:35:54,193 --> 00:35:55,486 "This is the end of this trip." 591 00:35:55,486 --> 00:35:58,739 "Yeah, but why? Why don't you stay? 592 00:35:58,739 --> 00:36:00,491 In fact, why don't you stay, 593 00:36:00,491 --> 00:36:02,743 and I'll fly you back to the United States." 594 00:36:02,743 --> 00:36:05,079 So I just said, "No, and don't ask me again. 595 00:36:05,079 --> 00:36:07,498 I'm not going to fly." 596 00:36:07,498 --> 00:36:09,834 And then he started calling me from San Francisco 597 00:36:09,834 --> 00:36:11,961 once I was back and he was back. 598 00:36:11,961 --> 00:36:13,379 "Well, what are you doing?" 599 00:36:13,379 --> 00:36:15,339 Well, I'm, you know. 600 00:36:15,339 --> 00:36:17,592 I was involved with someone else, 601 00:36:17,592 --> 00:36:21,804 but I knew that that was cascading. 602 00:36:22,805 --> 00:36:25,600 And he's pretty charming. 603 00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:28,603 He was very charming. 604 00:36:28,978 --> 00:36:30,229 RICK: Doug called me up and said, 605 00:36:30,229 --> 00:36:32,857 "Hey, you know that friend of yours, Kris? 606 00:36:32,857 --> 00:36:34,609 She's a good, buddy of yours, right?" 607 00:36:34,609 --> 00:36:35,776 And I just go, "Oh, yeah. 608 00:36:35,776 --> 00:36:37,945 She's one of my closest friends. 609 00:36:37,945 --> 00:36:41,741 She's godmother to all three of my children." 610 00:36:41,741 --> 00:36:45,161 And he goes, "Yeah. What do you think of her?" 611 00:36:45,161 --> 00:36:48,372 So I, you know I told him how great she was. 612 00:36:48,372 --> 00:36:51,167 And then literally the same day Kris calls me up and goes, 613 00:36:51,167 --> 00:36:55,213 "Hey that guy friend of Yvon's, Doug Tompkins. 614 00:36:55,213 --> 00:36:57,757 You've been climbing with him for a while now, yeah? 615 00:36:57,757 --> 00:36:59,133 But you know what.. 616 00:36:59,133 --> 00:37:00,384 What kind of guy is he? 617 00:37:00,384 --> 00:37:01,510 Do you know him very well?" 618 00:37:01,510 --> 00:37:03,804 And I went "Oh!" 619 00:37:03,804 --> 00:37:07,558 YVON: I know my wife when she heard that Doug was interested 620 00:37:07,558 --> 00:37:11,479 in Kris was going, "Oh my god, it's a disaster." 621 00:37:11,479 --> 00:37:15,566 Because she knew how he had treated women in the past. 622 00:37:16,108 --> 00:37:17,693 EDGAR: Doug was a wild, young, bon vivant 623 00:37:17,693 --> 00:37:21,364 with many, many liaisons. 624 00:37:21,364 --> 00:37:23,157 And when Kris was talking to people about, 625 00:37:23,157 --> 00:37:24,450 'Is this a good thing?' 626 00:37:24,450 --> 00:37:25,993 And people who knew Doug said, 627 00:37:25,993 --> 00:37:28,454 "No, Doug's changed, this is going to be good. 628 00:37:28,454 --> 00:37:29,747 Doug's changed." 629 00:37:29,747 --> 00:37:31,874 Other women are going, 630 00:37:31,874 --> 00:37:35,836 "Oh, man, you don't want him to get near him, this is crazy." 631 00:37:36,754 --> 00:37:38,923 RICK: There was a part of Doug that was like an ass. 632 00:37:38,923 --> 00:37:42,426 So we were a little bit nervous. 633 00:37:51,394 --> 00:37:54,230 KRIS: I started working with Yvon, I was so young. 634 00:37:54,230 --> 00:37:58,567 I think 23 years of that. 635 00:37:58,567 --> 00:38:01,821 I just, I just thought, 636 00:38:01,821 --> 00:38:06,117 I can't, I don't want to do this anymore. 637 00:38:07,451 --> 00:38:10,705 I was done. 638 00:38:10,705 --> 00:38:13,749 I was done with my life. 639 00:38:13,749 --> 00:38:15,626 Most people think of it, when I say those things, 640 00:38:15,626 --> 00:38:18,671 that I'm always talking about Patagonia. 641 00:38:18,671 --> 00:38:19,922 That's not what I'm talking about. 642 00:38:19,922 --> 00:38:21,924 I'm talking about me. 643 00:38:21,924 --> 00:38:25,344 My life was over. 644 00:38:25,344 --> 00:38:28,764 I had to change it. 645 00:38:30,224 --> 00:38:33,561 I just thought there has to be something else out there, 646 00:38:33,561 --> 00:38:36,605 something bigger. 647 00:38:38,441 --> 00:38:40,818 Doug would call me from time to time. 648 00:38:40,818 --> 00:38:42,903 And one night I said, "Well, I'm going to go to Paris to 649 00:38:42,903 --> 00:38:44,447 work out of the Paris office." 650 00:38:44,447 --> 00:38:47,742 And he goes, "Great. I'll see you over there." 651 00:38:54,874 --> 00:38:58,294 And true to his form, he's in Paris. 652 00:38:58,294 --> 00:39:02,256 We go out to dinner, his favorite restaurant in Paris. 653 00:39:02,256 --> 00:39:06,302 And we're walking around, walking all around Paris. 654 00:39:06,302 --> 00:39:09,430 He said, "Come see me in Chile." 655 00:39:09,430 --> 00:39:11,974 I said, "No. Absolutely not. 656 00:39:11,974 --> 00:39:14,477 You're a world famous sandbagger." 657 00:39:14,477 --> 00:39:19,648 And he stopped and looked down at his feet, 658 00:39:19,648 --> 00:39:22,610 and then looked back up at me and said, 659 00:39:22,610 --> 00:39:26,322 "I will never let anything happen to you." 660 00:39:27,615 --> 00:39:31,952 It was one of those moments that you see somebody transform, 661 00:39:31,952 --> 00:39:35,664 even in their own mind. 662 00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:40,252 I mean, much later, he said he knew exactly, that was it, 663 00:39:40,252 --> 00:39:42,004 and so did I. 664 00:39:42,004 --> 00:39:43,589 I thought to myself, 665 00:39:43,589 --> 00:39:47,551 "that's the man I was supposed to marry." 666 00:39:47,551 --> 00:39:50,554 But it was crazy, really crazy. 667 00:39:50,554 --> 00:39:52,973 I was engaged to another person, 668 00:39:52,973 --> 00:39:58,020 so I ended up leaving that fiancé. 669 00:39:59,021 --> 00:40:03,067 Then I went down to Chile to visit with Doug for ten days 670 00:40:03,067 --> 00:40:05,986 and I stayed five weeks. 671 00:40:05,986 --> 00:40:08,739 It was chemistry. 672 00:40:08,739 --> 00:40:12,326 When, um, you get hit by lightning. 673 00:40:13,285 --> 00:40:16,288 I'm going to leave my role as CEO. 674 00:40:13,285 --> 00:40:16,288 I'm going to leave my role as CEO. 675 00:40:16,288 --> 00:40:20,626 And we are currently looking for someone to replace me. 676 00:40:20,626 --> 00:40:26,298 My hope is to have someone in place by October, train them, 677 00:40:26,298 --> 00:40:30,302 have them shadow me day to day for three months. 678 00:40:30,302 --> 00:40:37,143 And then January 1st, I bug out and likely go to Chile, 679 00:40:37,143 --> 00:40:41,063 which is where I'm thinking that my home will be. 680 00:40:45,109 --> 00:40:47,403 I mean, I blew up my whole... 681 00:40:47,403 --> 00:40:48,487 (laughs). 682 00:40:48,487 --> 00:40:50,114 It was scandalous. 683 00:40:50,114 --> 00:40:53,909 I just blew up my personal life. 684 00:40:54,618 --> 00:40:56,620 But I was right. 685 00:40:56,620 --> 00:40:58,038 It turned out to be the great thing. 686 00:40:58,038 --> 00:40:59,665 And it was a big leap of faith. 687 00:40:59,665 --> 00:41:03,252 I mean, it could easily have gone either way. 688 00:41:03,252 --> 00:41:07,047 This was insane, what we were doing. 689 00:41:12,678 --> 00:41:15,264 KRIS (over radio): This is Doug's and my first date. 690 00:41:15,264 --> 00:41:19,393 I just remember thinking, "Oh, God, what have I done?" 691 00:41:20,603 --> 00:41:25,274 And this farm where we're headed now, 692 00:41:25,274 --> 00:41:30,196 was absolutely cut off. 693 00:41:33,782 --> 00:41:36,785 KRIS: April 4th, 1994. 694 00:41:36,785 --> 00:41:39,288 Incredible property Doug has here. 695 00:41:39,288 --> 00:41:41,415 Entire peninsula. 696 00:41:41,415 --> 00:41:43,167 Beautiful glaciers. 697 00:41:43,167 --> 00:41:46,837 Falls, rivers. 698 00:41:47,505 --> 00:41:50,174 April 5th, 1994. 699 00:41:50,174 --> 00:41:52,968 Ice on our sleeping bags in the morning. 700 00:41:52,968 --> 00:41:55,763 Incredibly clear and beautiful. 701 00:41:55,763 --> 00:41:58,724 We head south through Coyhaique Forest. 702 00:41:58,724 --> 00:42:00,768 Sleep at Hotel Nires, 703 00:42:00,768 --> 00:42:02,228 no dinner, 704 00:42:02,228 --> 00:42:04,647 and snuggle to sleep. 705 00:42:06,732 --> 00:42:08,067 May 20th. 706 00:42:08,067 --> 00:42:11,403 Storm now at fourth day, no let up. 707 00:42:11,403 --> 00:42:15,032 Water being pushed into the house for force of the winds. 708 00:42:15,032 --> 00:42:17,826 Up at 2 A.M. to tie down the chimney 709 00:42:17,826 --> 00:42:20,746 and kill a giant rat. 710 00:42:20,746 --> 00:42:23,832 No chance of leaving. 711 00:42:25,251 --> 00:42:27,419 MELINDA: There were no telephones, 712 00:42:27,419 --> 00:42:30,339 no way to get in and no way to get out. 713 00:42:30,339 --> 00:42:33,217 So she was isolated with Doug. 714 00:42:38,472 --> 00:42:42,476 KRIS: We're in our 40s and we want to do all of these things 715 00:42:42,476 --> 00:42:44,853 and they're big and they're difficult and 716 00:42:44,853 --> 00:42:48,232 there's not a lot of history out there 717 00:42:48,232 --> 00:42:49,567 of other people doing them. 718 00:42:49,567 --> 00:42:52,570 So you don't, you're sort of making it up as you go along. 719 00:42:52,570 --> 00:42:56,282 And it was a new marriage. 720 00:42:56,657 --> 00:43:00,703 You just hope that the fibers of that marriage can withstand 721 00:43:00,703 --> 00:43:05,749 the pressures of working together, living together 722 00:43:05,749 --> 00:43:09,169 in these intense circumstances. 723 00:43:10,671 --> 00:43:16,760 ♪ ♪ 724 00:43:20,222 --> 00:43:27,021 (singing in Spanish) 725 00:43:31,734 --> 00:43:37,031 (applause) 726 00:43:37,948 --> 00:43:40,951 CAROLINA: At the beginning, the first part was to make 727 00:43:40,951 --> 00:43:43,162 a nature sanctuary. 728 00:43:43,162 --> 00:43:45,331 It was a way to protect the land. 729 00:43:45,331 --> 00:43:50,252 But some year along the way, uh, Doug and Kris developed 730 00:43:50,252 --> 00:43:55,007 this idea of creating national parks and our work took a 731 00:43:55,007 --> 00:43:57,885 really big shift then. 732 00:44:01,764 --> 00:44:04,141 KRIS: So this is where we got started. 733 00:44:04,141 --> 00:44:06,018 This is where we were living. 734 00:44:06,018 --> 00:44:08,937 And all of this section became Pumalín, from the border with 735 00:44:08,937 --> 00:44:12,441 Argentina all the way out to the Pacific Ocean. 736 00:44:12,441 --> 00:44:13,984 This is the first one. 737 00:44:13,984 --> 00:44:19,365 We bought 763,000 acres and it increased from there. 738 00:44:19,365 --> 00:44:22,660 None of this is ever done in a vacuum. 739 00:44:22,660 --> 00:44:28,749 We go out immediately and talk to everybody, mayors, 740 00:44:28,749 --> 00:44:31,210 everybody involved. 741 00:44:31,210 --> 00:44:33,045 So there's a lot of suspicion. 742 00:44:33,045 --> 00:44:36,882 And many times a lot of pushback. 743 00:44:38,133 --> 00:44:41,095 DOUG: We're coming to talk to the mayor here. 744 00:44:41,095 --> 00:44:44,807 We want to explain to her what the idea of donating this land 745 00:44:44,807 --> 00:44:46,975 that's out in her district. 746 00:44:46,975 --> 00:44:49,269 I think that, you know, she'll be supportive of this, 747 00:44:49,269 --> 00:44:51,605 she understands about conservation. 748 00:44:51,605 --> 00:44:53,524 MAN: The project is to create the national park 749 00:44:53,524 --> 00:44:56,610 starting at Cabo Leon and include the nature reserve. 750 00:44:57,277 --> 00:44:59,488 DOUG: We have to say "we have a national park" 751 00:44:59,738 --> 00:45:04,034 because national parks create their own touristic pull. 752 00:45:06,328 --> 00:45:09,123 KRIS: In this area, this is all temperate rainforest. 753 00:45:09,123 --> 00:45:11,375 It's impenetrable. 754 00:45:11,375 --> 00:45:15,337 So the opposition was largely from the federal government 755 00:45:15,337 --> 00:45:16,839 at this point. 756 00:45:16,839 --> 00:45:22,553 This is where five years of serious political and 757 00:45:22,553 --> 00:45:25,139 social conflict took place. 758 00:45:26,682 --> 00:45:28,517 INTERVIEWER: What is it you don't like about 759 00:45:28,517 --> 00:45:30,352 Douglas Tompkins' project? 760 00:45:30,352 --> 00:45:32,020 JAIME: They don't want any progress. 761 00:45:32,688 --> 00:45:34,648 We are a poor country, 762 00:45:35,149 --> 00:45:36,984 we need the progress 763 00:45:37,401 --> 00:45:41,613 to raise our standard. 764 00:45:41,613 --> 00:45:44,116 RODRIGO: We were coming from a dictatorship in the country 765 00:45:44,116 --> 00:45:45,367 for 20 years, 766 00:45:45,367 --> 00:45:48,954 so there's a hardcore right wing politicians 767 00:45:48,954 --> 00:45:51,915 that wouldn't understand the philanthropy. 768 00:45:52,875 --> 00:45:54,877 NEWSPERSON: Chile is a country that has good reason to be 769 00:45:54,877 --> 00:45:56,128 suspect of Americans. 770 00:45:56,128 --> 00:45:58,046 (explosion) 771 00:45:58,464 --> 00:46:01,258 In 1973, the Nixon administration supported 772 00:46:01,258 --> 00:46:04,428 the coup that began 17 years of brutal dictatorship 773 00:46:04,428 --> 00:46:07,473 under General Augusto Pinochet. 774 00:46:07,473 --> 00:46:09,767 Yet when the Tompkins began assembling cheap wilderness 775 00:46:09,767 --> 00:46:11,727 land for conservation here, 776 00:46:11,727 --> 00:46:15,522 they were stunned to be labeled ugly Americans. 777 00:46:16,106 --> 00:46:18,150 ANDRES: To be fair, at the same time, you know, 778 00:46:18,150 --> 00:46:20,903 Chile is a very long and very thin country. 779 00:46:20,903 --> 00:46:25,449 And Doug and Kris were buying a lot of land, 780 00:46:25,449 --> 00:46:27,701 which, you know, amounted to 781 00:46:27,701 --> 00:46:30,287 a good chunk of one of Chile's regions. 782 00:46:30,996 --> 00:46:33,624 PEDRO: The main concern of the military and the navy was 783 00:46:33,624 --> 00:46:37,461 having Mr. Tompkins owning such an amount of foreign land 784 00:46:37,461 --> 00:46:40,380 that went from the border to the ocean. 785 00:46:40,380 --> 00:46:43,634 So he was accused of cutting the country in two pieces 786 00:46:44,134 --> 00:46:47,346 EDGAR: Now the right wing in Chile was going 787 00:46:47,346 --> 00:46:48,472 through the roof, 788 00:46:48,472 --> 00:46:51,558 trying to figure out ways to deal with this. 789 00:46:51,975 --> 00:46:55,646 KRIS: March 13, 1995. 790 00:46:55,646 --> 00:46:58,065 Virtually every newspaper around Chile and 791 00:46:58,065 --> 00:47:01,193 all television stations covering us last night 792 00:47:01,193 --> 00:47:03,362 and again this morning. 793 00:47:03,362 --> 00:47:05,572 Heavy attacks from the ultra right wing 794 00:47:05,572 --> 00:47:09,785 and the salmon industry. 795 00:47:10,452 --> 00:47:12,538 We were taking up the fight against 796 00:47:12,538 --> 00:47:15,165 commercial salmon farming. 797 00:47:16,834 --> 00:47:18,502 DOUG: These are fish farms. 798 00:47:18,502 --> 00:47:22,339 These are the equivalent of uh, hog farms. 799 00:47:22,339 --> 00:47:24,424 You go down to the ocean floor, you'll see underneath 800 00:47:24,424 --> 00:47:27,469 these cages here, a dead sea. 801 00:47:27,469 --> 00:47:30,138 Marine ecology has been smothered. 802 00:47:30,138 --> 00:47:33,267 Nothing's living under these cages. 803 00:47:33,267 --> 00:47:37,187 CAROLINA: The sea lions would go towards the cages to eat. 804 00:47:37,187 --> 00:47:42,693 So we used to find sea lions dead with gunshots on the beach. 805 00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:48,407 KRIS: Doug put a wanted dead or alive. 806 00:47:48,407 --> 00:47:53,495 We'll give anyone $2500 that leads to the guy 807 00:47:53,495 --> 00:47:56,498 who's killing the sea lions. 808 00:47:56,498 --> 00:47:59,793 And that was just gas on a fire. 809 00:48:00,335 --> 00:48:03,171 April 21st, 1995. 810 00:48:03,171 --> 00:48:06,633 More attacks in the newspaper against Doug and me. 811 00:48:07,092 --> 00:48:10,554 It's beginning to seem a clear threat to our life here. 812 00:48:12,222 --> 00:48:14,308 October 17th. 813 00:48:14,308 --> 00:48:16,602 Phones tapped for sure now. 814 00:48:16,602 --> 00:48:20,355 New allegations against us coming from the military. 815 00:48:20,355 --> 00:48:23,025 Wondering what will fall next. 816 00:48:23,025 --> 00:48:25,944 Worried for Doug's safety. 817 00:48:26,528 --> 00:48:28,697 YVON: They had to hide out in the American embassy 818 00:48:28,697 --> 00:48:29,948 for a while. 819 00:48:29,948 --> 00:48:31,241 They had death threats. 820 00:48:31,241 --> 00:48:35,162 The FBI told us, my wife and I, that our phone was tapped. 821 00:48:35,537 --> 00:48:38,040 You know, we were friends of the Tompkins. 822 00:48:39,958 --> 00:48:43,420 BELISARIO: The government isn't harassing him. 823 00:48:44,755 --> 00:48:46,673 CLAUDIO: Well, there was a lot of suspicion. 824 00:48:46,924 --> 00:48:53,180 It seemed to be the first step in acquiring cheap land 825 00:48:53,180 --> 00:48:56,934 to then sell at higher prices. 826 00:48:57,976 --> 00:49:02,189 So, the collective imagination gives rise to many things. 827 00:49:03,148 --> 00:49:06,777 MICHELLE: At that time I was minister, yes, minister. 828 00:49:06,777 --> 00:49:09,404 And I was studying defense issues. 829 00:49:09,404 --> 00:49:11,990 And the military had all kinds of theories, 830 00:49:11,990 --> 00:49:14,242 that this was Israel who was trying to 831 00:49:14,242 --> 00:49:17,496 take power of Chile, etc., etc.. 832 00:49:17,496 --> 00:49:20,415 KRIS: We were accused of creating a new nuclear waste 833 00:49:20,415 --> 00:49:23,085 site for the United States, 834 00:49:23,085 --> 00:49:24,670 a new Jewish state, 835 00:49:24,670 --> 00:49:27,381 even though we were raised as Anglicans, 836 00:49:27,381 --> 00:49:29,466 a new base for the Argentine military 837 00:49:29,466 --> 00:49:32,928 to come in and finish Chile off once and for all. 838 00:49:32,928 --> 00:49:35,055 A really good one was that we were going to take all the 839 00:49:35,055 --> 00:49:37,474 cattle out of southern Chile and replace it with 840 00:49:37,474 --> 00:49:39,768 American bison. 841 00:49:40,644 --> 00:49:42,646 INTERVIEWER: Between the two of you with all your projects 842 00:49:42,646 --> 00:49:46,233 in Chile and Argentina, how many acres are we talking? 843 00:49:46,233 --> 00:49:47,943 DOUG: About 2 million. 844 00:49:47,943 --> 00:49:49,111 INTERVIEWER: 2 million? 845 00:49:49,111 --> 00:49:50,737 KRIS: Yeah, just under 2 million. 846 00:49:50,737 --> 00:49:52,406 INTERVIEWER: It's an awful lot of acres. 847 00:49:52,406 --> 00:49:54,074 KRIS: It's peanuts. 848 00:49:54,074 --> 00:49:59,079 If you weigh it against what's being saved on an annual basis 849 00:49:59,079 --> 00:50:01,999 versus what's been destroyed. 850 00:50:01,999 --> 00:50:05,002 We're on the losing team. 851 00:50:07,754 --> 00:50:12,009 We're losing wilderness at the rate of 40 million acres a year. 852 00:50:15,637 --> 00:50:18,306 At this rate, we'll lose all wilderness within 853 00:50:18,306 --> 00:50:20,767 the next 50 years. 854 00:50:22,060 --> 00:50:24,896 People can say, "Oh, the Tompkins have protected over 855 00:50:24,896 --> 00:50:27,107 2 million acres of land." 856 00:50:27,107 --> 00:50:29,234 And it is a lot of land, 857 00:50:29,234 --> 00:50:31,236 but it's a drop in the bucket compared to 858 00:50:31,236 --> 00:50:34,364 what's taking place every day, 859 00:50:34,364 --> 00:50:36,783 whether it's in the forests in Indonesia 860 00:50:36,783 --> 00:50:40,871 or grasslands in Eastern Africa, wherever it is. 861 00:50:41,830 --> 00:50:44,541 It's not as though we are gaining ground. 862 00:50:44,541 --> 00:50:47,711 We're just trying to hold back the onslaught. 863 00:50:49,546 --> 00:50:53,967 We're at this perfect storm of rising human population base, 864 00:50:53,967 --> 00:50:57,596 rising consumption and a fall in natural resources. 865 00:50:57,596 --> 00:51:01,058 And yet anybody who could really change some of that, 866 00:51:01,058 --> 00:51:05,020 they're unwilling to because the cultural impact of those 867 00:51:05,020 --> 00:51:08,065 changes is just too much for them to consider. 868 00:51:12,819 --> 00:51:16,323 When we tried to make Corcovado Park, 869 00:51:16,323 --> 00:51:19,451 we ran straight into the military. 870 00:51:20,035 --> 00:51:22,704 A lot of what would eventually become the park was 871 00:51:22,704 --> 00:51:24,623 owned by the military. 872 00:51:24,623 --> 00:51:28,668 And they were using the area as a bombing range. 873 00:51:32,047 --> 00:51:36,259 Doug was meeting with Generals to try to convince them to 874 00:51:36,259 --> 00:51:40,055 preserve this place and stop the bombing. 875 00:51:45,060 --> 00:51:48,105 Before we go to the government to make an offer, 876 00:51:48,105 --> 00:51:51,358 we're completely prepared saying this is what 877 00:51:51,358 --> 00:51:53,318 we have invested in the land. 878 00:51:53,819 --> 00:51:56,947 (speaking Spanish) 879 00:51:56,947 --> 00:51:58,740 We said to the government, 880 00:51:58,740 --> 00:52:02,077 we'll donate our park with all the infrastructure 881 00:52:02,077 --> 00:52:07,624 if you match one of our acres with up to nine acres of 882 00:52:07,624 --> 00:52:10,710 unused federal land. 883 00:52:12,129 --> 00:52:16,842 That leveraging allows us to do something much greater than 884 00:52:16,842 --> 00:52:20,595 what would have been possible for us to do by ourselves. 885 00:52:23,515 --> 00:52:26,768 Patagonia Park was another very contentious project. 886 00:52:27,769 --> 00:52:31,148 We bought several thousand acres in Argentina and then we 887 00:52:31,148 --> 00:52:35,986 bought an old estancia, and 200,000 acres in Chile. 888 00:52:36,528 --> 00:52:39,156 We had an idea that this park could eventually go across the 889 00:52:39,156 --> 00:52:40,866 border to Argentina, 890 00:52:40,866 --> 00:52:44,494 to protect a couple of million acres in total. 891 00:52:44,494 --> 00:52:47,789 In the case of the nearby communities, 892 00:52:47,789 --> 00:52:51,710 it was by and large a ranching story. 893 00:52:51,710 --> 00:52:55,046 And some people were upset that we would be taking one of 894 00:52:55,046 --> 00:52:58,300 the largest ranches in Chile out of production. 895 00:53:02,179 --> 00:53:06,933 And when we got to Ibera, it was incredibly challenging. 896 00:53:10,353 --> 00:53:11,855 REPORTER (over TV): Some residents say that they've 897 00:53:11,855 --> 00:53:14,691 been displaced and then ignored by the people they 898 00:53:14,691 --> 00:53:17,360 sometimes refer to as eco-barons. 899 00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:22,115 WOMAN: We don't believe Tompkins is a multimillionaire 900 00:53:22,115 --> 00:53:26,494 who suddenly turned into a philanthropist. 901 00:53:28,205 --> 00:53:30,874 KRIS: There were also disputes about land deeds and titles 902 00:53:30,874 --> 00:53:33,084 around Pumalín. 903 00:53:34,544 --> 00:53:38,131 CLAUDIO: The 1 or 2%, which would represent 904 00:53:38,131 --> 00:53:41,509 approximately 200 families, 905 00:53:41,509 --> 00:53:47,057 they felt their presence in the area was being "threatened". 906 00:53:48,767 --> 00:53:52,062 KRIS: We spent five years going out and getting everyone their 907 00:53:52,062 --> 00:53:55,065 land titles, so that they would be comfortable, 908 00:53:55,065 --> 00:53:58,109 so there would be no question about 909 00:53:58,109 --> 00:54:02,155 what's yours and what belongs to the park. 910 00:54:03,198 --> 00:54:06,534 DOUG: I'll say that we're as good as anybody in the country, 911 00:54:06,534 --> 00:54:10,705 uh, about how we have dealt with land disputes. 912 00:54:10,705 --> 00:54:12,624 NEWSPERSON: Is that the one that hurts the most? 913 00:54:12,624 --> 00:54:15,043 DOUG: That's the one that hurts the most because, um, 914 00:54:15,043 --> 00:54:17,629 it's been just the absolute opposite. 915 00:54:18,046 --> 00:54:20,006 KRIS: It wasn't only individuals and some 916 00:54:20,006 --> 00:54:22,425 politicians who were opposed, 917 00:54:22,425 --> 00:54:25,595 but there were some institutions as well. 918 00:54:25,595 --> 00:54:28,348 NEWSPERSON: Opposition to the Tompkins is being fermented 919 00:54:28,348 --> 00:54:32,143 by none other than the Catholic church. 920 00:54:32,143 --> 00:54:35,647 This is the missing link of Pumalín Park. 921 00:54:35,647 --> 00:54:38,441 30,000 hectares of land owned by the Catholic Church 922 00:54:38,441 --> 00:54:40,360 known as Winai. 923 00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:44,114 Douglas Tompkins came this close to getting Winai. 924 00:54:44,489 --> 00:54:46,199 DOUG: What happened was, pressure was put on the 925 00:54:46,199 --> 00:54:48,576 Catholic University not to sell to us, and they sold to 926 00:54:48,576 --> 00:54:49,995 the power company, 927 00:54:49,995 --> 00:54:52,205 to Endesa, the big power monopoly. 928 00:54:52,205 --> 00:54:54,124 NEWSPERSON: That would seem pretty spiteful thing to do. 929 00:54:54,124 --> 00:54:56,835 DOUG: It was, it was. 930 00:54:58,586 --> 00:55:01,423 KRIS: Okay, but this property down on Lago General Carreras, 931 00:55:01,423 --> 00:55:02,632 are we buying that? 932 00:55:02,632 --> 00:55:03,675 DOUG: Yeah. 933 00:55:03,675 --> 00:55:04,509 PEDRO: They had to have 934 00:55:04,509 --> 00:55:07,053 a lot of faith in what they were doing. 935 00:55:07,595 --> 00:55:11,933 98% of the people would have simply given up and said, 936 00:55:11,933 --> 00:55:14,436 "Impossible to live in your country" 937 00:55:14,436 --> 00:55:19,441 Because we behaved, Chileans, very badly. 938 00:55:25,447 --> 00:55:29,826 KRIS: February 25th, everyday more news to bear. 939 00:55:30,535 --> 00:55:34,497 Doug completely overpowered with anger and frustration. 940 00:55:34,497 --> 00:55:37,584 And my nerves are frayed. 941 00:55:37,584 --> 00:55:39,711 Why are we doing this? 942 00:55:39,711 --> 00:55:43,173 I go home to serious confrontation, 943 00:55:43,173 --> 00:55:47,969 a lot of crying, honesty and a loving response. 944 00:55:50,430 --> 00:55:53,641 DOUG: I'm thinking about maybe filling all of this up 945 00:55:53,892 --> 00:55:56,895 but I don't want something that is too straight 946 00:55:59,022 --> 00:56:00,565 Like that, and then it curves out. 947 00:56:00,565 --> 00:56:04,027 That way it has a natural appearance. 948 00:56:05,570 --> 00:56:08,656 DOUG: I believe in public access. 949 00:56:08,656 --> 00:56:11,826 We have to build public access infrastructure. 950 00:56:12,827 --> 00:56:15,455 You have visitor centers, you have campgrounds, 951 00:56:15,455 --> 00:56:18,541 even hotels, parking areas, 952 00:56:18,541 --> 00:56:20,085 trails, trailheads, 953 00:56:20,085 --> 00:56:23,546 offices for administration, signage. 954 00:56:23,546 --> 00:56:26,674 You've got all that kind of stuff that goes into 955 00:56:26,674 --> 00:56:28,343 making up a national park. 956 00:56:28,343 --> 00:56:30,678 (speaking Spanish) 957 00:56:30,678 --> 00:56:33,723 RICK: He was such a perfectionist. 958 00:56:34,349 --> 00:56:36,726 When he ran Esprit he had a little sign above his desk 959 00:56:36,726 --> 00:56:40,605 that said, "no detail is small." 960 00:56:42,565 --> 00:56:45,318 DAGO: Doug was convinced that a world without beauty 961 00:56:45,318 --> 00:56:46,653 wasn't worth it. 962 00:56:48,446 --> 00:56:50,407 KRIS: You have to remember that for Doug, 963 00:56:50,407 --> 00:56:53,326 these are canvases. 964 00:56:55,120 --> 00:57:00,375 And what he did do is he created a dogged, 965 00:57:00,375 --> 00:57:04,421 relentless pursuit of beauty. 966 00:57:05,463 --> 00:57:08,883 DOUG: The tractor driver is like an artist. 967 00:57:09,342 --> 00:57:13,638 You can paint the landscape with the tractor 968 00:57:14,305 --> 00:57:18,101 but you must have good technique. 969 00:57:18,351 --> 00:57:21,229 Because later we are going to take a photo 970 00:57:21,229 --> 00:57:25,066 and see your work, the work. 971 00:57:34,993 --> 00:57:38,037 KRIS: When we first began to work in Chile and Argentina, 972 00:57:38,037 --> 00:57:43,543 we thought we were just protecting vast territories. 973 00:57:44,752 --> 00:57:47,672 But in fact, it's like they say, 974 00:57:47,672 --> 00:57:52,552 landscape without wildlife is just scenery. 975 00:57:54,929 --> 00:57:57,765 Everything changed when we got to Ibera. 976 00:57:58,016 --> 00:58:01,269 We realized that a lot of species were missing 977 00:58:01,269 --> 00:58:03,605 from the jaguars all the way down. 978 00:58:03,605 --> 00:58:05,982 We were no longer in the business of 979 00:58:05,982 --> 00:58:08,193 making National Parks. 980 00:58:08,193 --> 00:58:10,028 We were in the business of creating 981 00:58:10,028 --> 00:58:13,323 fully functioning ecosystems. 982 00:58:13,323 --> 00:58:15,700 Time to rewild. 983 00:58:18,077 --> 00:58:21,998 Simply put, rewilding is bringing back the species 984 00:58:21,998 --> 00:58:27,337 that belong in a place but have been lost for whatever reason. 985 00:58:28,922 --> 00:58:32,926 Poaching, hunting, grazing of livestock. 986 00:58:34,344 --> 00:58:38,515 CRISTIÁN: Each species plays a major role in the ecosystem. 987 00:58:39,307 --> 00:58:42,393 So that guanacos are in large numbers 988 00:58:42,810 --> 00:58:44,812 to provide food for pumas, 989 00:58:45,313 --> 00:58:47,315 Pumas are preying on guanacos 990 00:58:47,315 --> 00:58:49,567 and are providing food for scavengers. 991 00:58:50,443 --> 00:58:54,864 It's not merely the recovery of a single species 992 00:58:55,448 --> 00:58:58,451 it's the interaction. 993 00:58:59,536 --> 00:59:01,621 The rewilding program has 994 00:59:01,621 --> 00:59:03,706 our park wardens 995 00:59:03,706 --> 00:59:05,667 many of them are former cowboys 996 00:59:06,125 --> 00:59:09,420 but today they are monitoring pumas. 997 00:59:14,551 --> 00:59:17,929 KRIS: Arcelio was the son of the Chief Puma hunter. 998 00:59:17,929 --> 00:59:19,806 So he would go out with his father 999 00:59:19,806 --> 00:59:22,100 and they were paid a salary, 1000 00:59:22,100 --> 00:59:24,435 but they were paid a bonus for every skin they brought back. 1001 00:59:24,811 --> 00:59:29,065 KRIS: What would your father think if he could see you now... 1002 00:59:29,065 --> 00:59:31,150 doing all of this? 1003 00:59:33,987 --> 00:59:35,446 With so many pumas! 1004 00:59:35,446 --> 00:59:37,323 ARCELIO: With so many pumas without killing them! 1005 00:59:37,323 --> 00:59:39,450 KRIS: Without killing any of them! 1006 00:59:39,701 --> 00:59:41,160 It's a shift! 1007 00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:43,955 ARCELIO: Of course it's a shift. It's a huge shift for me! 1008 00:59:46,624 --> 00:59:49,085 DOUG: From an ethical standpoint, we have to serve 1009 00:59:49,085 --> 00:59:51,963 biodiversity as a principle. 1010 00:59:51,963 --> 00:59:53,965 We have to share the planet with other creatures. 1011 00:59:53,965 --> 00:59:58,136 That means we have to make habitat available for 1012 00:59:58,136 --> 01:00:01,055 evolution to continue to unfold. 1013 01:00:01,806 --> 01:00:03,141 We are squeezing out creatures 1014 01:00:03,141 --> 01:00:06,227 from their habitat by over-expanding. 1015 01:00:06,227 --> 01:00:08,646 It's a self defeating development and 1016 01:00:08,646 --> 01:00:11,107 that's what we find is pathological. 1017 01:00:11,107 --> 01:00:13,192 That we're continuing to expand and expand and expand 1018 01:00:13,192 --> 01:00:16,529 until the inevitable collapse. 1019 01:00:18,990 --> 01:00:25,788 ♪ ♪ 1020 01:00:30,501 --> 01:00:33,254 KRIS: February 18th. 1021 01:00:33,254 --> 01:00:36,966 Lolo, why did we never climb our mountain together? 1022 01:00:38,509 --> 01:00:40,762 It's such a gift to be up here 1023 01:00:40,762 --> 01:00:44,098 and see all of this through your eyes. 1024 01:00:47,268 --> 01:00:48,895 JIMMY: Doug made the first ascent. 1025 01:00:48,895 --> 01:00:50,480 And, you know, traditionally, 1026 01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:52,065 when you make the first ascent of a mountain, 1027 01:00:52,065 --> 01:00:54,776 you get to name it. 1028 01:00:54,776 --> 01:00:58,321 And Doug named it after Kris. 1029 01:00:58,321 --> 01:01:01,032 Great, great, great push. 1030 01:01:01,032 --> 01:01:04,035 That was huge! 1031 01:01:04,035 --> 01:01:08,706 KRIS: So, Kristine is the highest point in the park and 1032 01:01:08,706 --> 01:01:12,126 sort of the crown jewel. 1033 01:01:12,377 --> 01:01:14,879 RICK: You know, you can't do a better Valentine's present 1034 01:01:14,879 --> 01:01:17,548 than that for your wife. 1035 01:01:18,424 --> 01:01:21,803 KRIS: Yeah, he was always doing stuff like that for me. 1036 01:01:24,889 --> 01:01:26,391 RODRIGO: No, they were intense, but they were totally 1037 01:01:26,391 --> 01:01:29,435 deep in love, you could tell. 1038 01:01:29,852 --> 01:01:32,522 He was always taking care of her and likewise. 1039 01:01:34,107 --> 01:01:36,651 TIMMY: I mean, you would see them together and it was like 1040 01:01:36,651 --> 01:01:41,155 teenage kids, you know, like off in the corner, canoodling. 1041 01:01:42,031 --> 01:01:44,450 It was all about love. 1042 01:01:45,201 --> 01:01:48,287 LITO: I think virtually every day he would send her 1043 01:01:48,287 --> 01:01:50,123 these messages. 1044 01:01:50,123 --> 01:01:52,959 They were photo messages. 1045 01:01:53,376 --> 01:01:55,420 EDGAR: They had their nicknames for each other 1046 01:01:55,420 --> 01:01:58,256 and she was 'Birdy'. 1047 01:01:58,256 --> 01:02:04,595 LITO: I can recall, vividly, a really lovely DVD he made. 1048 01:02:07,473 --> 01:02:10,268 DOUG: The love of my life is a world class woman 1049 01:02:10,268 --> 01:02:12,603 for all seasons. 1050 01:02:12,603 --> 01:02:16,441 She's so beautiful at 60. 1051 01:02:16,441 --> 01:02:18,693 You are my number one and only. 1052 01:02:26,033 --> 01:02:28,828 YVON: That's a secret side of Doug I never saw, but... 1053 01:02:28,828 --> 01:02:31,456 (laughs). 1054 01:02:34,917 --> 01:02:36,627 RICK: There it is. 1055 01:02:36,627 --> 01:02:38,129 It's quite a peak, huh? 1056 01:02:38,129 --> 01:02:39,964 KRIS: It is. 1057 01:02:39,964 --> 01:02:43,134 I'm so happy to be right here. 1058 01:02:45,762 --> 01:02:49,140 RICK: Jimmy and I were here before. 1059 01:02:49,140 --> 01:02:55,146 We were here 12 years ago with Yvon and Doug. 1060 01:03:05,072 --> 01:03:09,911 ♪ ♪ 1061 01:03:09,911 --> 01:03:14,123 (cheering) 1062 01:03:17,001 --> 01:03:20,004 (cheering) 1063 01:03:20,004 --> 01:03:22,256 JIMMY: That's another one for us! 1064 01:03:22,673 --> 01:03:24,383 YVON: First Medicaid ascent. 1065 01:03:24,383 --> 01:03:25,968 (laughing) 1066 01:03:25,968 --> 01:03:28,471 DOUG: You can't beat it. 1067 01:03:29,347 --> 01:03:33,643 RICK: I remember having an incredible sunset, 1068 01:03:33,643 --> 01:03:36,729 just like the one we had last night. 1069 01:03:36,729 --> 01:03:39,857 I was thinking about Doug. 1070 01:03:40,900 --> 01:03:43,486 DOUG: Now it's my biological clock ticking. 1071 01:03:43,486 --> 01:03:45,905 I really feel it. 1072 01:03:45,905 --> 01:03:47,615 YVON: You've got a lot of jobs you've got to finish. 1073 01:03:47,615 --> 01:03:50,827 DOUG: I got projects to do, that are long term projects. 1074 01:03:50,827 --> 01:03:52,912 And, you know, you're thinking, you know, 1075 01:03:52,912 --> 01:03:54,580 I'm going to make it to finish that. 1076 01:03:54,580 --> 01:03:57,208 I'm really interested to see if we could 1077 01:03:57,208 --> 01:03:58,626 finish this or finish that. 1078 01:03:58,626 --> 01:03:59,961 And it takes a lot of time. 1079 01:03:59,961 --> 01:04:01,379 Time is everything. 1080 01:04:01,379 --> 01:04:03,422 Yeah, it's the most valuable. 1081 01:04:03,422 --> 01:04:04,841 YVON: Always is. 1082 01:04:04,841 --> 01:04:07,343 DOUG: Life flies by. 1083 01:04:07,343 --> 01:04:09,804 YVON: Yeah. 1084 01:04:21,107 --> 01:04:25,069 KRIS: I had talked Doug into going on this trip, 1085 01:04:25,069 --> 01:04:28,906 well at first, and then he became enthusiastic about it. 1086 01:04:28,906 --> 01:04:32,285 RICK: We thought it'd be fun to do a sea kayak trip of this 1087 01:04:32,285 --> 01:04:36,455 big lake not far from the Patagonia National Park. 1088 01:04:37,582 --> 01:04:40,001 KRIS: We took them all to the lake and they spent hours 1089 01:04:40,001 --> 01:04:41,794 getting all their boats ready. 1090 01:04:41,794 --> 01:04:43,462 Let's go honey! 1091 01:04:45,923 --> 01:04:47,884 MELINDA: They were world class kayakers, 1092 01:04:47,884 --> 01:04:51,971 but they hired somebody to put a trip together. 1093 01:04:54,348 --> 01:04:56,434 KRIS: They took the Zodiac out, 1094 01:04:56,434 --> 01:05:00,104 then put their boats in the water. 1095 01:05:02,607 --> 01:05:05,693 RICK: Doug and I were in a double kayak. 1096 01:05:05,693 --> 01:05:09,405 Yvon and Weston were in singles, 1097 01:05:09,405 --> 01:05:12,700 and Jeb and Lorenzo were in another double. 1098 01:05:13,618 --> 01:05:16,746 The fourth day the wind really started to come up. 1099 01:05:18,414 --> 01:05:21,000 MELINDA: The wind was blowing eight foot waves 1100 01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:23,169 every which direction. 1101 01:05:23,169 --> 01:05:25,338 RICK: We're having trouble with the rudder of this boat 1102 01:05:25,338 --> 01:05:27,673 that we had borrowed. 1103 01:05:29,884 --> 01:05:32,386 It was really getting increasingly difficult for 1104 01:05:32,386 --> 01:05:36,140 Doug and me to keep our boat pointed downwind. 1105 01:05:38,476 --> 01:05:42,271 This wave hit us, all of the sudden we're upside down. 1106 01:05:43,230 --> 01:05:45,316 And so I said to Doug, 1107 01:05:45,316 --> 01:05:48,235 "God I wonder if we should try to swim for it. 1108 01:05:48,235 --> 01:05:49,904 Because if we get out in the middle of a lake, 1109 01:05:49,904 --> 01:05:52,782 we're dead, for sure." 1110 01:05:53,199 --> 01:05:56,661 And then we both said, "Okay, let's try and go for it." 1111 01:05:58,829 --> 01:06:02,708 I thought, you know, I've probably got 10 minutes left. 1112 01:06:02,708 --> 01:06:05,127 You can only stay alive in water that cold for 1113 01:06:05,127 --> 01:06:07,213 a half hour, maybe. 1114 01:06:07,505 --> 01:06:09,715 And then another wave broke over me and I realized I was 1115 01:06:09,715 --> 01:06:12,259 starting to drown. 1116 01:06:12,259 --> 01:06:14,261 And then something snapped. 1117 01:06:14,261 --> 01:06:17,348 And I said, I screamed, "No." 1118 01:06:17,348 --> 01:06:20,059 I started swimming as hard as I could. 1119 01:06:21,435 --> 01:06:23,813 And in a minute, Jeb and Lorenzo arrived 1120 01:06:23,813 --> 01:06:25,272 in their double kayak. 1121 01:06:25,272 --> 01:06:28,567 I grabbed onto the back and they started towing me. 1122 01:06:31,904 --> 01:06:34,991 WESTON: I just happened to arrive to Doug first. 1123 01:06:35,241 --> 01:06:39,537 He grabbed onto the back of my kayak and I got the kayak 1124 01:06:39,537 --> 01:06:43,249 turned towards shore and began to paddle. 1125 01:06:43,249 --> 01:06:46,252 He was not panicking, he was kicking. 1126 01:06:46,252 --> 01:06:47,920 He could have so easily grabbed on to me, 1127 01:06:47,920 --> 01:06:50,172 flipped me over. 1128 01:06:51,632 --> 01:06:54,844 But, there was no way to fight the hypothermia that was 1129 01:06:54,844 --> 01:06:55,970 starting to set in. 1130 01:06:55,970 --> 01:06:59,390 And I could really feel that he was losing strength to kick 1131 01:06:59,390 --> 01:07:01,892 and hold on. 1132 01:07:01,892 --> 01:07:05,938 In the final moment, Doug was looking up the Aveano valley. 1133 01:07:07,023 --> 01:07:12,028 And just, humming almost to himself. 1134 01:07:12,028 --> 01:07:16,115 When he lost the strength to hold on anymore to the boat 1135 01:07:16,115 --> 01:07:19,618 I needed to get him up in my arm 1136 01:07:19,618 --> 01:07:20,995 to keep his head out of the water. 1137 01:07:20,995 --> 01:07:25,791 I just couldn't hold him and hold the paddle. 1138 01:07:25,791 --> 01:07:29,045 And I lost my paddle at that point. 1139 01:07:34,341 --> 01:07:36,510 Doug and I floated like that for about an hour, 1140 01:07:36,510 --> 01:07:39,263 an hour and a half. 1141 01:07:39,764 --> 01:07:44,435 And then I heard a helicopter coming. 1142 01:07:44,769 --> 01:07:47,313 They pulled us floating in the water to shore, 1143 01:07:47,313 --> 01:07:50,691 and they went from there to the hospital. 1144 01:07:51,859 --> 01:07:55,613 KRIS: Broken messages coming in slowly. 1145 01:07:55,613 --> 01:07:59,909 Finally it is Doug, Rick, helicopter. 1146 01:08:00,910 --> 01:08:03,370 I know you're in serious trouble. 1147 01:08:03,370 --> 01:08:06,415 Instinctively, I know, without knowing. 1148 01:08:06,415 --> 01:08:09,126 Outside pleading with the gods. 1149 01:08:09,126 --> 01:08:13,672 Please, please, please, please bring him back to me. 1150 01:08:15,674 --> 01:08:19,720 RICK: And they took us to the lodge where the phone rang and 1151 01:08:19,720 --> 01:08:23,224 the lodge owner answered. 1152 01:08:24,391 --> 01:08:28,938 In a short minute later, 1153 01:08:28,938 --> 01:08:31,774 hung up and looked at us and said, 1154 01:08:31,774 --> 01:08:34,151 "Now Doug is really dead." 1155 01:08:46,956 --> 01:08:48,666 KRIS: Rushed into the room where I now know 1156 01:08:48,666 --> 01:08:51,210 they worked on you for hours. 1157 01:08:51,210 --> 01:08:53,671 Cold body, soft. 1158 01:08:53,671 --> 01:08:56,924 I crawl up onto your bed and lay next to you. 1159 01:08:56,924 --> 01:09:00,094 I only wanted the two of us to be cocooned together and 1160 01:09:00,094 --> 01:09:05,141 let everything and everyone else just slip away. 1161 01:09:06,142 --> 01:09:09,228 RICK: And I just stared into my soup. 1162 01:09:10,187 --> 01:09:15,025 And I remember Yvon staring into his soup, 1163 01:09:15,025 --> 01:09:17,945 and then he picked up a spoon 1164 01:09:17,945 --> 01:09:22,950 and started eating it very slowly. 1165 01:09:24,910 --> 01:09:27,037 And then he looked over at me and he said, 1166 01:09:27,037 --> 01:09:31,834 "Eat your soup. It's really good." 1167 01:09:32,376 --> 01:09:36,839 And I made sure that I 1168 01:09:36,839 --> 01:09:40,134 respected every spoonful of warm soup 1169 01:09:40,134 --> 01:09:43,137 going down my throat. 1170 01:09:53,022 --> 01:09:56,233 KRIS: And then we flew him the next day. 1171 01:09:56,233 --> 01:10:00,654 And I was in the back with the coffin and I had a knife in my 1172 01:10:00,654 --> 01:10:04,992 bag and I started carving our names. 1173 01:10:05,618 --> 01:10:09,914 I didn't notice but as I'm carving these big letters and 1174 01:10:09,914 --> 01:10:14,043 I'm just carving as hard as I can, 1175 01:10:14,043 --> 01:10:15,920 I'm cutting myself. 1176 01:10:15,920 --> 01:10:18,714 There's blood on the box. 1177 01:10:18,714 --> 01:10:21,717 There's blood on me. 1178 01:10:21,717 --> 01:10:26,388 And I was out of my seatbelt. 1179 01:10:26,847 --> 01:10:31,393 I just was so intent on getting Birdy and Lolo into that box. 1180 01:10:34,188 --> 01:10:36,982 So finally, Rick, who's sitting way up by the pilot, 1181 01:10:36,982 --> 01:10:38,525 comes back there, said, 1182 01:10:38,525 --> 01:10:40,986 "You sit down, you get in your seat, 1183 01:10:40,986 --> 01:10:44,531 you put your seatbelt on, and give me that knife. 1184 01:10:44,531 --> 01:10:46,116 You are done. 1185 01:10:46,116 --> 01:10:49,620 Is this what you want people to see when we land?" 1186 01:10:53,457 --> 01:10:56,835 YVON: She was off the deep end, you know, 1187 01:10:56,835 --> 01:10:59,672 to the point where she didn't want to live. 1188 01:10:59,672 --> 01:11:02,591 She didn't want to go through life without him. 1189 01:11:10,057 --> 01:11:12,309 KRIS: Doug died three days ago 1190 01:11:14,270 --> 01:11:16,647 on a trip with his best friends. 1191 01:11:17,690 --> 01:11:22,444 With Yvon Chouinard, his lifelong friend 1192 01:11:24,196 --> 01:11:28,534 with Rick Ridgeway, who also almost died 1193 01:11:30,035 --> 01:11:32,496 and with Weston Boyles, 1194 01:11:33,122 --> 01:11:36,959 the group's "little boy", 1195 01:11:36,959 --> 01:11:42,840 who stayed with him until the very end. 1196 01:11:42,840 --> 01:11:45,676 He never left him alone. 1197 01:11:45,676 --> 01:11:51,307 And for that I will be eternally grateful. 1198 01:11:52,224 --> 01:11:58,439 This person, Douglas, lived a life worth centuries. 1199 01:11:59,315 --> 01:12:04,862 I can't picture a life without him, but here we are. 1200 01:12:09,616 --> 01:12:12,453 KRIS: Thank you for coming. 1201 01:12:13,245 --> 01:12:20,002 (applause) 1202 01:12:26,216 --> 01:12:28,260 ♪ ♪ 1203 01:12:28,260 --> 01:12:32,765 RICK: We lowered Doug's casket into the grave. 1204 01:12:32,765 --> 01:12:35,642 And then all the people who had come, all the citizens 1205 01:12:35,642 --> 01:12:38,937 from surrounding towns, hundreds of people, 1206 01:12:38,937 --> 01:12:42,483 we all started tossing dirt on his casket with our hands. 1207 01:13:01,919 --> 01:13:07,841 KRIS: It took me a long time to decide not to go with him. 1208 01:13:09,760 --> 01:13:11,595 This is a good place to come. 1209 01:13:11,595 --> 01:13:17,559 I was so crazy for so long after he died. 1210 01:13:21,355 --> 01:13:25,609 Everyday. 1211 01:13:26,527 --> 01:13:29,988 May 17, when you left Esprit, 1212 01:13:29,988 --> 01:13:33,117 you went on a grand search for what could be next, 1213 01:13:33,117 --> 01:13:36,495 the grand gesture to live a new life. 1214 01:13:36,495 --> 01:13:40,416 And now I'm sitting on that same precipice. 1215 01:13:40,416 --> 01:13:43,961 Somehow there has to be a new story. 1216 01:13:43,961 --> 01:13:46,713 Perhaps this is the point, Birdy. 1217 01:13:46,713 --> 01:13:49,716 It's time to write it all down. 1218 01:13:59,059 --> 01:14:04,731 Even though I feel still that it was an amputation, 1219 01:14:04,731 --> 01:14:08,986 not just a loss. 1220 01:14:08,986 --> 01:14:14,283 I feel this big, audacious vision of Doug's 1221 01:14:14,283 --> 01:14:18,787 was the thing that probably kept me in one piece. 1222 01:14:20,122 --> 01:14:23,876 That was like a life raft for me. 1223 01:14:23,876 --> 01:14:25,878 We never stopped. 1224 01:14:25,878 --> 01:14:28,922 I managed everything. 1225 01:14:29,590 --> 01:14:33,552 YVON: All these things that she knew that were unsustainable, 1226 01:14:33,552 --> 01:14:35,429 she stopped all that. 1227 01:14:35,429 --> 01:14:39,766 And she pulled herself up and took over. 1228 01:14:42,102 --> 01:14:44,354 KRIS: All the farms are gone. 1229 01:14:44,354 --> 01:14:48,650 We had 13 farms at one point. 1230 01:14:48,650 --> 01:14:51,403 We couldn't make them self-sustaining. 1231 01:14:51,403 --> 01:14:55,073 It was just too expensive. 1232 01:14:55,073 --> 01:14:58,911 I couldn't help but feel that I was failing Doug. 1233 01:14:59,745 --> 01:15:03,040 It wasn't an option to keep them going, 1234 01:15:05,209 --> 01:15:08,504 but it was tough to let them go. 1235 01:15:10,339 --> 01:15:15,010 It became so black and white to me. 1236 01:15:15,010 --> 01:15:16,845 There was no question. 1237 01:15:16,845 --> 01:15:19,890 It was binary, my whole life became binary. 1238 01:15:19,890 --> 01:15:22,017 I want to die, I'm going to live. 1239 01:15:22,017 --> 01:15:24,561 We're going to do this, we're not going to do that. 1240 01:15:24,561 --> 01:15:27,022 Doug wanted to do this, we're not doing it. 1241 01:15:27,022 --> 01:15:28,607 Close it down. 1242 01:15:28,607 --> 01:15:30,275 Pumalín, you're done. 1243 01:15:30,275 --> 01:15:32,236 Colchagua you're almost done. 1244 01:15:32,236 --> 01:15:34,571 Ibera, we're going to do this. 1245 01:15:34,571 --> 01:15:38,825 We're going to go twice the speed, twice the scope. 1246 01:15:38,825 --> 01:15:40,702 Just go. 1247 01:15:40,702 --> 01:15:42,037 We have nothing to lose. 1248 01:15:42,037 --> 01:15:45,749 That was my mantra: I have nothing to lose. 1249 01:15:45,749 --> 01:15:48,835 The worst thing that could happen to me happened. 1250 01:15:52,089 --> 01:15:54,967 RICK: She was into a complete new phase in her life. 1251 01:15:54,967 --> 01:15:57,219 And little by little, 1252 01:15:57,219 --> 01:16:01,515 Kris not only found that reason to keep going, 1253 01:16:01,515 --> 01:16:06,186 but she became more and more fierce and bold. 1254 01:16:10,691 --> 01:16:14,444 KRIS: I always felt like a pebble in a stream. 1255 01:16:15,362 --> 01:16:18,699 Not anymore. 1256 01:16:18,699 --> 01:16:21,285 I know exactly what I want to do. 1257 01:16:21,285 --> 01:16:24,788 I'm really living with a lot of intention. 1258 01:16:27,791 --> 01:16:31,420 KRIS: So the new park would be 1259 01:16:33,839 --> 01:16:35,632 KRIS: 2.3 million. 1260 01:16:35,924 --> 01:16:37,509 KRIS: 2.3 million acres. 1261 01:16:38,552 --> 01:16:40,846 WOMAN: It's another Pumalín or Corcovado. 1262 01:16:41,680 --> 01:16:44,725 KRIS: 20 million acres. 1263 01:16:45,892 --> 01:16:48,312 KRIS: Now we're talking! 1264 01:16:48,770 --> 01:16:53,358 RICK: She's inevitably had to ask herself, "what's next?" 1265 01:16:53,358 --> 01:16:58,405 I think that the most energizing opportunity is rewilding. 1266 01:16:58,739 --> 01:17:00,407 CRISTIÁN: So these are 1267 01:17:01,116 --> 01:17:04,119 two of the first group that was released, 1268 01:17:04,494 --> 01:17:07,956 but they interact with the others that are wild. 1269 01:17:08,373 --> 01:17:12,210 So they are doing much better outside than in the pens. 1270 01:17:13,503 --> 01:17:16,923 KRIS: There was so much more to do than just protect the land. 1271 01:17:16,923 --> 01:17:21,845 You can't call any of these places restored or healthy 1272 01:17:21,845 --> 01:17:25,182 until everybody's back. 1273 01:17:28,685 --> 01:17:31,772 RICK: Kris helped with the reintroductions of over a 1274 01:17:31,772 --> 01:17:33,899 dozen species at this point, 1275 01:17:33,899 --> 01:17:36,443 ultimately including the Jaguar, 1276 01:17:36,443 --> 01:17:39,863 which nobody's ever done before. 1277 01:17:41,573 --> 01:17:44,159 KRIS: It was Doug's idea to do whatever we could 1278 01:17:44,159 --> 01:17:46,995 to bring Jaguars back. 1279 01:17:46,995 --> 01:17:50,582 The Jaguar is emblematic. 1280 01:17:50,582 --> 01:17:53,085 It's at the top of the food chain there. 1281 01:17:53,085 --> 01:17:55,295 It was one of his dreams. 1282 01:17:55,295 --> 01:17:58,507 So we have nine to release. 1283 01:17:58,507 --> 01:18:02,761 And that's assuming that both the cubs, 1284 01:18:02,761 --> 01:18:04,805 who are now both females... 1285 01:18:04,805 --> 01:18:06,515 WOMAN: Yes. 1286 01:18:06,515 --> 01:18:09,393 KRIS: Have two cubs, maybe. 1287 01:18:09,393 --> 01:18:10,852 Maybe one. 1288 01:18:11,645 --> 01:18:12,896 KRIS: Incredible! 1289 01:18:13,146 --> 01:18:18,068 Every time I think about this I almost cry. 1290 01:18:19,444 --> 01:18:21,655 KRIS: Really and truly. 1291 01:18:31,039 --> 01:18:35,877 Maybe national parks are like petri dishes. 1292 01:18:35,877 --> 01:18:40,507 And when everything goes to hell, 1293 01:18:40,507 --> 01:18:43,885 national parks being protected areas 1294 01:18:43,885 --> 01:18:46,388 might be a petri dish in which evolution could 1295 01:18:46,388 --> 01:18:48,682 kind of restart itself. 1296 01:18:49,349 --> 01:18:52,310 Who knows? 1297 01:18:52,853 --> 01:18:59,526 ♪ ♪ 1298 01:19:03,572 --> 01:19:07,659 RICK: Helping to protect biodiversity, as Kris is doing, 1299 01:19:07,659 --> 01:19:12,122 actually has a direct link to climate change, 1300 01:19:12,122 --> 01:19:18,253 and through that link to the survivability of our species 1301 01:19:18,253 --> 01:19:20,797 on this planet. 1302 01:19:21,089 --> 01:19:23,925 KRIS: March 2nd, 2017. 1303 01:19:23,925 --> 01:19:27,471 The government sent up a smoke signal today. 1304 01:19:27,471 --> 01:19:31,057 We will sign the agreement here on March 15. 1305 01:19:33,351 --> 01:19:37,063 At first, enormous relief, and then momentary happiness 1306 01:19:37,063 --> 01:19:40,942 that gave way to my unending admiration for you. 1307 01:19:41,443 --> 01:19:45,071 I asked myself how I can come this far without you. 1308 01:19:45,071 --> 01:19:49,326 But then I remembered you've been here all along. 1309 01:19:53,205 --> 01:19:54,581 ANDRES: You know, when you devote 1310 01:19:54,581 --> 01:19:57,584 not only a lot of your wealth, but a lot of your life, 1311 01:19:57,584 --> 01:20:00,879 and then you choose to be buried in that place, 1312 01:20:00,879 --> 01:20:03,423 you know, it made it impossible 1313 01:20:03,423 --> 01:20:06,218 for someone to say, oh, he's just visiting. 1314 01:20:06,218 --> 01:20:10,222 RICK: There was this outpouring of grief 1315 01:20:10,222 --> 01:20:14,100 for a widow across the entire country. 1316 01:20:15,060 --> 01:20:20,190 It galvanized everybody and any opposition to what they 1317 01:20:20,190 --> 01:20:23,109 were trying to do seemed to vaporize. 1318 01:20:24,653 --> 01:20:28,949 KRIS: Historic. It's historic. 1319 01:20:29,324 --> 01:20:34,538 Seriously, no one has ever done this before. 1320 01:20:34,871 --> 01:20:37,457 MICHELLE: When I was the president, we met with Kristine 1321 01:20:37,457 --> 01:20:41,670 and we decided that this could be an interesting thing 1322 01:20:41,670 --> 01:20:44,005 that two women could continue pushing what 1323 01:20:44,005 --> 01:20:48,176 Doug had as a real important dream. 1324 01:20:49,886 --> 01:20:53,932 KRIS: The truth is we needed to finish up these parks. 1325 01:20:53,932 --> 01:20:59,521 You have to remember that we were carrying untold overhead. 1326 01:20:59,521 --> 01:21:01,690 In the last year or so, 1327 01:21:01,690 --> 01:21:06,444 we'd been spending up to $6 million a year 1328 01:21:06,444 --> 01:21:10,991 so not donating them would be economic disaster eventually. 1329 01:21:13,785 --> 01:21:15,954 Ay yay yay! 1330 01:21:15,954 --> 01:21:19,749 Egan! Hola. 1331 01:21:20,834 --> 01:21:23,628 EGAN: All of our best carpenters are putting up the sign! 1332 01:21:23,628 --> 01:21:25,797 KRIS: I can't believe this! 1333 01:21:26,339 --> 01:21:30,552 KRIS: It was so audacious and so unlikely that 1334 01:21:30,552 --> 01:21:34,097 you could pull that off. 1335 01:21:34,097 --> 01:21:37,142 All five new national parks at once and 1336 01:21:37,142 --> 01:21:39,686 the enlargement of three others. 1337 01:21:39,686 --> 01:21:42,606 But I just felt like it's now or never. 1338 01:21:42,606 --> 01:21:44,858 This is the moment. 1339 01:21:44,858 --> 01:21:46,026 WOMAN: Say, Pumalín! 1340 01:21:46,026 --> 01:21:48,194 GROUP: Pumalín! 1341 01:21:48,194 --> 01:21:50,280 KRIS: This is a hell of a team. 1342 01:21:50,280 --> 01:21:54,034 And there are hundreds of people involved. 1343 01:21:54,034 --> 01:21:56,620 We want the government to keep them on, 1344 01:21:56,620 --> 01:22:00,081 but who knows what will happen? 1345 01:22:00,540 --> 01:22:01,875 Some of them we'll see again. 1346 01:22:01,875 --> 01:22:04,002 Some of them we won't. 1347 01:22:04,753 --> 01:22:09,799 But it's a lot of people coming to the end of something. 1348 01:22:12,510 --> 01:22:14,346 KRIS: We've been a family 1349 01:22:15,013 --> 01:22:17,474 for 25 years. 1350 01:22:18,975 --> 01:22:24,856 And we honor and love each other. 1351 01:22:27,776 --> 01:22:34,574 On behalf of the team, 1352 01:22:37,327 --> 01:22:42,749 we toast to Douglas and Pablo Carrasco." 1353 01:22:43,667 --> 01:22:48,838 (applause) 1354 01:22:48,838 --> 01:22:52,342 (cheering) 1355 01:23:00,183 --> 01:23:03,228 KRIS: The weekend before the president arrived 1356 01:23:03,228 --> 01:23:04,896 for the ceremony, 1357 01:23:04,896 --> 01:23:10,610 I read something and I saw immediately 1358 01:23:10,610 --> 01:23:13,530 two words that were conditional. 1359 01:23:13,530 --> 01:23:18,368 We 'could', we 'would', not we 'are'. 1360 01:23:18,368 --> 01:23:21,538 That told me that one of the parks and the biggest one, 1361 01:23:21,538 --> 01:23:25,083 in this collection of eight, wasn't completely clear 1362 01:23:25,083 --> 01:23:27,127 if it was a go. 1363 01:23:27,127 --> 01:23:30,213 And for me, it was all or nothing. 1364 01:23:30,213 --> 01:23:34,092 We do them all or we do nothing. 1365 01:23:36,803 --> 01:23:41,725 So it's a huge risk if it doesn't go through. 1366 01:23:47,522 --> 01:23:49,315 MICHELLE: After all, what happened to them for all of 1367 01:23:49,315 --> 01:23:52,318 those years, trying to convince different governments 1368 01:23:52,318 --> 01:23:57,073 to do something like this and never being able to go forward, 1369 01:23:57,073 --> 01:23:59,659 then I guess of course, she had to have doubts. 1370 01:24:00,326 --> 01:24:03,329 She thought anything can change. 1371 01:24:06,791 --> 01:24:12,047 KRIS: Right up to the hour before the ceremony, 1372 01:24:13,214 --> 01:24:16,634 I had no idea whether it was going to go or not. 1373 01:24:17,052 --> 01:24:20,263 That's it. Let's roll. 1374 01:24:25,977 --> 01:24:28,605 When she arrived, I was really stone faced. 1375 01:24:28,605 --> 01:24:30,273 We meet again. 1376 01:24:30,273 --> 01:24:33,943 And she wanted to meet at Doug's grave 1377 01:24:33,943 --> 01:24:37,197 in the little cemetery there. 1378 01:24:37,822 --> 01:24:42,535 She was acknowledging Doug's grave and talking about Doug. 1379 01:24:42,535 --> 01:24:46,039 And I just thought, I'm about to pull the plug 1380 01:24:46,039 --> 01:24:48,958 on all of this work. 1381 01:24:50,543 --> 01:24:54,005 I had two speeches. 1382 01:24:54,005 --> 01:24:56,966 One: wrath and brimstone, 1383 01:24:56,966 --> 01:24:59,719 if somehow something had gone awry. 1384 01:24:59,719 --> 01:25:02,806 And another one that was congratulatory. 1385 01:25:02,806 --> 01:25:06,101 (speaking Spanish) 1386 01:25:06,643 --> 01:25:09,729 And then someone came around next to me and she said, 1387 01:25:09,729 --> 01:25:12,398 "It's in there. It's okay." 1388 01:25:12,398 --> 01:25:14,442 So I turned around to the president and said, 1389 01:25:14,442 --> 01:25:17,237 "God, what a historic day." 1390 01:25:17,237 --> 01:25:19,322 (laughs). 1391 01:25:19,322 --> 01:25:26,121 (singing in Spanish) 1392 01:25:32,377 --> 01:25:38,842 ♪ ♪ 1393 01:25:39,259 --> 01:25:43,680 KRIS: I have a map of a place that only the gods 1394 01:25:43,680 --> 01:25:45,473 could have imagined. 1395 01:25:46,266 --> 01:25:49,185 What for Doug was a dream in 1992, 1396 01:25:49,602 --> 01:25:53,189 will become Pumalín National Park. 1397 01:25:54,357 --> 01:25:57,485 These parks belong to you. 1398 01:25:58,903 --> 01:26:01,906 Protect them with all your heart. 1399 01:26:03,074 --> 01:26:04,993 Choose life. 1400 01:26:05,285 --> 01:26:06,828 Choose beauty. 1401 01:26:09,455 --> 01:26:12,417 KRIS: Lolo, we made it! 1402 01:26:12,417 --> 01:26:19,048 (applause) 1403 01:26:22,302 --> 01:26:24,012 (cheering) 1404 01:26:24,012 --> 01:26:30,351 (applause) 1405 01:26:33,813 --> 01:26:36,816 Oh my god, you guys. 1406 01:26:38,610 --> 01:26:40,695 YVON: Here was somebody I kind of mentored, 1407 01:26:40,695 --> 01:26:42,864 and a good friend. 1408 01:26:42,864 --> 01:26:45,408 And now standing here with the president of Chile 1409 01:26:45,408 --> 01:26:50,038 signing these papers to create these parks and geez 1410 01:26:50,038 --> 01:26:52,540 (laughs).. 1411 01:26:52,540 --> 01:26:53,750 Yeah. 1412 01:26:53,750 --> 01:26:58,046 I had tears coming down, it was a pretty proud moment. 1413 01:27:00,465 --> 01:27:02,592 KRIS: It's the biggest in the world. 1414 01:27:02,592 --> 01:27:04,719 You should be so proud. 1415 01:27:04,719 --> 01:27:06,429 WESTON: They created the largest land donation in the 1416 01:27:06,429 --> 01:27:09,307 history of mankind. 1417 01:27:10,350 --> 01:27:13,269 Doug was setting the bar really high, 1418 01:27:13,269 --> 01:27:14,646 but he would be proud if somebody 1419 01:27:14,646 --> 01:27:16,731 tried to out-do him. 1420 01:27:16,731 --> 01:27:20,235 Bigger parks, more conservation. 1421 01:27:26,032 --> 01:27:28,660 KRIS: Oh, my God. 1422 01:27:28,660 --> 01:27:29,869 Look at him. 1423 01:27:29,869 --> 01:27:32,872 Look look look look. 1424 01:27:32,872 --> 01:27:36,376 It's a condor. 1425 01:27:40,713 --> 01:27:44,550 RICK: Look at this incredible wildness 1426 01:27:44,550 --> 01:27:48,638 that she and Doug protected. 1427 01:27:51,307 --> 01:27:53,977 As far as you can see. 1428 01:28:01,567 --> 01:28:07,156 ♪ ♪ 1429 01:28:07,657 --> 01:28:10,034 YVON: It's changed the whole attitude about conservation 1430 01:28:10,034 --> 01:28:11,619 in Latin America. 1431 01:28:11,619 --> 01:28:15,206 People want to establish these parks now. 1432 01:28:16,374 --> 01:28:19,961 So now I'm involved in starting a new park down 1433 01:28:19,961 --> 01:28:23,131 in the tip of Tierra del Fuego. 1434 01:28:23,131 --> 01:28:25,800 750,000 acres. 1435 01:28:25,800 --> 01:28:27,593 I came up with this idea and I gave it to 1436 01:28:27,593 --> 01:28:29,387 Kris's organization. 1437 01:28:29,387 --> 01:28:32,974 We're calling it End of the World Park. 1438 01:28:32,974 --> 01:28:35,435 I mean, you know, here, Doug was ragging on me that 1439 01:28:35,435 --> 01:28:37,478 I should be doing the same thing he was doing. 1440 01:28:37,478 --> 01:28:40,398 So now I'm starting to do it. 1441 01:28:40,732 --> 01:28:44,944 KRIS: I was always the sweet one to the two of you. 1442 01:28:44,944 --> 01:28:47,905 I was easier to accommodate and tougher to turn down. 1443 01:28:47,905 --> 01:28:50,533 (laughs). 1444 01:28:50,533 --> 01:28:55,913 But, god, what a life. 1445 01:28:55,913 --> 01:28:59,208 YVON: Yeah, yeah. 1446 01:28:59,959 --> 01:29:01,919 KRIS: What a life. 1447 01:29:02,920 --> 01:29:09,052 ♪ ♪ 1448 01:29:18,936 --> 01:29:25,777 ♪ ♪ 1449 01:29:37,622 --> 01:29:44,170 ♪ ♪ 1450 01:29:53,638 --> 01:29:57,225 (music plays through credits) 1451 01:30:15,868 --> 01:30:17,954 ♪ What would you do ♪ 1452 01:30:17,954 --> 01:30:21,457 ♪ If it all came back to you ♪ 1453 01:30:26,003 --> 01:30:29,173 ♪ Each crest of each wave ♪ 1454 01:30:29,173 --> 01:30:32,427 ♪ Bright as lightning ♪ 1455 01:30:37,223 --> 01:30:39,225 ♪ What would you say ♪ 1456 01:30:39,225 --> 01:30:43,396 ♪ If you had to leave today? ♪ 1457 01:30:47,358 --> 01:30:49,944 ♪ Leave everything behind ♪ 1458 01:30:49,944 --> 01:30:53,656 ♪ Even though for once, you're shining ♪ 1459 01:30:58,161 --> 01:31:01,622 ♪ Standing on higher ground ♪ 1460 01:31:01,622 --> 01:31:03,416 ♪ When you hear the sounds ♪ 1461 01:31:03,416 --> 01:31:06,544 ♪ You realize its just the wind ♪ 1462 01:31:08,713 --> 01:31:11,674 ♪ And you notice it matters ♪ 1463 01:31:11,674 --> 01:31:15,261 ♪ Who and what you let under your skin ♪ 1464 01:31:19,265 --> 01:31:21,934 ♪ If put to the test ♪ 1465 01:31:21,934 --> 01:31:25,229 ♪ Would you step back from the line of fire? ♪ 1466 01:31:30,193 --> 01:31:32,653 ♪ Hold everything back ♪ 1467 01:31:32,653 --> 01:31:36,699 ♪ All emotions and desires ♪ 1468 01:31:41,287 --> 01:31:43,664 ♪ Convince yourself ♪ 1469 01:31:43,664 --> 01:31:45,958 ♪ To be someone else ♪ 1470 01:31:45,958 --> 01:31:48,669 ♪ Hide from the world ♪ 1471 01:31:48,669 --> 01:31:51,297 ♪ Your lack of confidence ♪ 1472 01:31:51,714 --> 01:31:54,675 ♪ What you choose to believe in ♪ 1473 01:31:54,675 --> 01:31:57,178 ♪ Takes you as you fall ♪ 1474 01:32:00,181 --> 01:32:02,850 ♪ Takes you as you fall ♪ 1475 01:32:03,100 --> 01:32:05,394 ♪ No one else around you ♪ 1476 01:32:05,394 --> 01:32:08,147 ♪ No one to understand you ♪ 1477 01:32:08,147 --> 01:32:11,526 ♪ No one to hear your calls ♪ 1478 01:32:13,110 --> 01:32:16,155 ♪ Look through all your dark corners ♪ 1479 01:32:16,155 --> 01:32:20,368 ♪ You're backed up against the wall ♪ 1480 01:32:21,244 --> 01:32:24,080 ♪ Step back from the line of fire ♪ 1481 01:32:36,008 --> 01:32:41,806 ♪ ♪ 1482 01:32:51,274 --> 01:32:52,525 Captioned by Cotter Media Group. 115085

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