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♪ ♪
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(waves crashing)
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♪ ♪
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KRIS: March 11th.
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Mostly sunny.
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I feel the memories of nearly
20 years in this valley.
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Years of joy, pain,
doubts, and reassurance.
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Love in a new way,
so strong, so lasting.
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Few have lived
as we have here.
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So yes my darling,
I am lonely for you.
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Nothing calms me as
your true and steady hand.
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Come home to your wife.
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♪ ♪
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REPORTER (over TV):Douglas Tompkins died Tuesday
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in an accident in Chile.
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He was apassionate conservationist.
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REPORTER: He fell in love
with Patagonia in his youth
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in the '60s
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and returned
to buy land in the '90s.
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REPORTER: He lived in
Chile for 25 years and leaves
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a legacy of the biggest
philanthropic project
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in the world.
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MAN: Tompkins was
a real visionary.
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He built a project at a
difficult time when
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environmentalists were
seen as eco-terrorists.
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KRIS: I mean, Doug
was a big personality.
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He dies suddenly.
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Everybody thinks...
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they didn't know what to think.
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Would I fall apart?
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If I fell apart
the game was over.
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We would lose 25
years of our work.
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People had no idea if I was
going to come back or not.
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I lost the love of my life.
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I was seriously wounded,
on my knees.
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I get a note from a
friend who says,
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"You have to make a choice
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and you have
to make it right now.
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You can live off this story.
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You can tell everybody
about this life you had
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and mourn Doug for
the rest of your life.
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Or you can go work,
and don't stop.
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What are you gonna do?"
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And that was a choice.
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(chatter)
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RICK: So I got these,
these are from K2.
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JIMMY: No way!
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What?
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KRIS: What year is that Rick?
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RICK: '78.
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JIMMY: Rick's going to
drag us up the mountain.
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Um, so I brought
you a different ax.
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It's a lot lighter.
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Or, I mean, I brought many
axes for myself and Pablo.
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KRIS: So this is, this is it?
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JIMMY: Or you could take
one of these, which is...
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KRIS: I'd rather, I think
I'd rather have the long one.
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JIMMY: Okay.
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RICK: Time to go.
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JIMMY: After Doug had passed,
Rick called and asked me if
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I wanted to join him and
Kris on a climbing trip.
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You know, he told me that Kris
really wanted to go and climb,
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climb that mountain.
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I just thought, yeah,
that makes sense.
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I can see why.
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It's a really special mountain.
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RICK: Okay,
there's our mountain.
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KRIS: Oh, god.
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(laughing)
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No, really.
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I'm sorry, but oh my God.
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Look at that.
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MAN: Look at that one!
It's a bit snowy.
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KRIS: A little bit.
MAN: Just a tiny bit.
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(chatter)
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(horse nickers)
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KRIS: This is the farthest
I've been inside this park.
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We never saw this.
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I mean, we fly a lot, but
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we never got on
the ground enough.
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We didn't really explore.
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We just worked.
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This is a real
wake up call for me.
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In the very beginning,
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Doug and I were living in the
middle of this paradise,
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and we said it would be
incredible to save this place.
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Just save it.
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Because of climate and
all these other things,
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right now on any scorecard,
nature is losing.
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What can you do
today to try to save
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the critical areas
of the planet?
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INTERVIEWER: What
was your vision?
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What did you come here for?
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DOUG: We sort of started to
make a master plan and started
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to realize it was possible
to create a national park
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under a private initiative.
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With the idea that we would
donate it back to the country.
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NEWSPERSON: The ultimate
do it yourself approach to
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saving the earth: buying it.
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REPORTER: Tompkins and his wife,
Kris, have assembled land
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for conservation on a
scale never seen before.
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DOUG: Yeah, this is
like the size of
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Yosemite National Park, here.
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INTERVIEWER: So that volcano
over there, you bought that?
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DOUG: Yeah, that came with it.
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(laughs).
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NEWSPERSON: Some people here
began asking just what were
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these Americans really up to?
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CLAUDIO: In our opinion, he's
nothing more than a businessman
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masquerading as an ecologist.
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MICHELLE: I think in Chile,
many people did not understand
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at the beginning what
being an ecologist meant.
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Some people wanted it to be a
place to invest, to invest,
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to produce energy
with the river.
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Some others wanted
to cut the forest.
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KRIS: We didn't know
there were stakes,
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that was part of the problem.
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INTERVIEWER: Former president
of Chile has accused your
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husband of throwing
people off the land.
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It has been reported that you
also have gotten death threats.
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KRIS: We had death threats
for years, the phones tapped.
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No, there were huge stakes.
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For 25 years, I really put
the shoulder to the wheel,
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and did everything to make what
Doug wanted to do, possible.
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This is what you were
talking about this morning.
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Is all of this.
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DOUG: See, I underlined that a
long time ago because somebody
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told me that
place was for sale.
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I came down to Chile in 1990,
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bought a house and
was fixing it up.
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You know, we bought a piece
of land, not with the idea of
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making any large park.
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But then another piece became
available and then a very big
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piece came available.
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And pretty soon we had
the makings of a park.
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DAGO: On the one hand
you had a crazy man,
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with the dream of making a park.
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And on the other hand,
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you had someone who would
make that dream come true
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on a national level.
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KRIS: She says I want to fly
with you but don't fall...
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Don't crash,
don't crash.
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EDGAR: There was a
deep, deep union and
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devotion to each other.
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They came together with a
common vision and they
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fought like cats in a bag.
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DOUG: We can
bicker with each other.
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KRIS: No, I think it's a
desire to work against the
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trend of the
destruction of wild nature.
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I think that is as big a bond
and strong a bond as any
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two people can have.
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♪ ♪
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TIMMY: If you don't mind like,
taking a little break...
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JIMMY: Here, or up there?
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TIMMY: No, no.
Up at the edge of the forest.
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JIMMY: Yeah, agreed.
Just another 200-300 feet.
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TIMMY: Yeah.
Sounds good.
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JIMMY: How you doing, Kris?
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KRIS: I'm okay.
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JIMMY: Good.
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KRIS: I always said I want
to live at one end of the
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spectrum or the other,
but never in the middle.
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And before I died,
I wanted this life.
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I didn't know what this was,
but I knew I wanted something
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wild, outrageous.
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Risky in the sense of
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changing everything that
was so comfortable.
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Doug would be so
happy for me,
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and proud of me to walk up there
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and see what the highest
place in the park looks like.
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For me, this is a way to
say a final goodbye to him.
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Doug made the first ascent of
this mountain back in 2008.
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He was a climber, and it
was always his first love.
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Doug grew up in the Northeast.
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He started climbing in the Gunks
when he was in middle school.
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He had no interest in school.
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Never went to college.
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He found it a worthless way to
spend your life: conforming.
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He just rejected all of it.
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And left.
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♪ My distractions ♪♪
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KRIS: At 17.
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Drove west.
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I don't think,
he had no money.
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He had no idea how,
what he would do out there,
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what he would find.
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♪ And sweet whiskeystop to say hello ♪♪
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YVON: Doug eventually ended
up in Yosemite and climbing in
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the valley and stuff, and
I climbed with him there.
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We became just,
really good friends.
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KRIS: Years later, it was
Yvon who eventually brought
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Doug and me together.
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JIMMY: Doug and Yvon
were best friends and
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lifelong climbing partners.
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They were both
world class climbers.
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I mean, these were the
original dirtbag climbers and
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surfers and skiers.
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Who would go on to create the
outdoor clothing business
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as we know it.
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KRIS: Doug really
looked up to Yvon,
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and that relationship
changed over the 50 years.
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And Yvon really listened to
Doug when they entered into
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their business lives.
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YVON: Somehow he talked
himself in getting the
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franchise for a hot
dog stand in Yosemite.
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He ran a hotdog
stand and climbed.
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He was an entrepreneur.
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And if you want to
understand the entrepreneur,
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study the juvenile delinquent.
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Because they're
saying this sucks,
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I'm going to do it my own way.
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And you know, Doug
became a businessman
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before anybody else.
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I mean, I was a blacksmith and
I was making climbing gear,
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but I didn't consider myself a
businessman until way later.
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I was climbing six months
a year and I started
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making climbing gear.
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I was growing the business in
all the normal ways,
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but we had a lot
of different ideas.
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And so we had this
policy of basically,
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work when you have to work
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and play when you have to play.
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And when the surf
comes up, take off.
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Go surfing.
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And that's when I met Kris.
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♪ Dee-dee dee-deeDee-dee dee-dee ♪
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♪ Well, east coastgirls are hip ♪
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♪ I really dig thosestyles they wear ♪
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♪ And the southern girls ♪
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♪ With the way they talk ♪
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♪ They knock me outwhen I'm down there ♪♪
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♪ The Midwestfarmers' daughters ♪
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♪ Really make youfeel all right ♪♪
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YVON: She
was a surfer girl.
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You know, never wore shoes.
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In fact, when she was
in high school,
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she'd go to school barefooted
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and the teacher would
go pretty crazy.
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She was a little
juvenile delinquent herself.
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♪ I wish they allcould be California ♪
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MELINDA: Kris was
Yvon's next door neighbor.
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She was probably 15 or
16 when I first met her.
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She was
extraordinarily friendly.
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She loves to talk.
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She loves to do things,
but she's very meticulous.
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KRIS: We, grew up on our
great grandfather's ranch
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in California.
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When I was eight, my father
and his oil company
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decided to go to Venezuela.
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Little Hamlet in
the Orinoco Basin.
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My father became very
ill one afternoon and
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he was dead five days
later of bulbar polio.
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After our father died, our
mother remarried to our
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really close family friend.
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He was a real go-getter
and he had four kids.
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So there were seven of us.
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And we were
called the hooligans.
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We were wild.
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My father wanted his kids
to be the ones who'd fling
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themselves off the
high diving board.
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Nothing was impossible.
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And I was the one who
responded to all of that.
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The thing that was asked of us
was, be great at what you do.
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I don't care what it is,
but be great at it.
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I refused to go to
private school,
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but the local high school
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was such a bad high school
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that I started going
to the beach and
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hanging out with an older
brother and Yvon Chouinard.
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This is when I'm 15 years old.
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He was absolutely
clear about who he was.
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On the other hand, I am much
more like a pebble in a stream
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and it just kind of knocks
along, gets moved down river,
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and I get hooked on one
rock and then maybe a little
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current takes me out
and keeps me going.
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Anyway, I came home from
my first year at college
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and my mother sat
me down and said,
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"You have to get a job."
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So I went to Yvon and
I was complaining and
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he hired me for the
summer for $2 an hour.
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YVON: So she started working
for me as an assistant packer.
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(laughs).
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Assistant packer?
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That's as low as you can get.
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Hah!
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She just kind of worked
her way up the company,
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and we slowly learned how
to run a business together.
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Doug had started his
own business as well.
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DOUG: We started
a guide service.
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California Mountaineering
Guide Service, it was called.
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And that became the reason
that I started the North Face.
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I needed equipment to
supply the clients
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to the guide service.
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KRIS: It was about this
time that Doug met Susie.
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DOUG: My first wife,
Susie, I met hitchhiking.
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She picked me up hitchhiking.
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SUSIE: One day I'm driving on
an in an area called Emerald Bay
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in Lake Tahoe and
there's this guy hitchhiking.
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So I stopped and picked
him up, and he had ropes
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and he had all
his climbing gear.
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He was so arrogant.
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I just remember thinking,
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What a jerk this guy is,
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but there's something
kind of cool, too.
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Eventually we got married.
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We lived in North Beach
in San Francisco.
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When we opened the North Face,
we invited this group called
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the Grateful Dead to
play at our opening.
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Doug had a great
time building it out
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and it was really beautiful.
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KRIS: He created this unique
environment to sell different
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kind of clothing and
climbing equipment.
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SUSIE: The North Face kept
growing and then Doug got very
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restless because he wanted to
go away and go climbing
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and not be tied down.
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And so, we sold it.
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YVON: At that time,
Susie had started Esprit.
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She was in partnership
with another woman.
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SUSIE: We'd been out selling
off of these very, very
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amateur samples we had made.
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And so I remember
showing him the orders.
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Doug just looked at it and
kind of shook his head and
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was just like, "Wow,
there's an opportunity!"
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We were in business.
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So then Esprit became a big
label, and then we took off.
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DOUG: Really built
the Esprit company up.
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Eventually expanded
internationally with a lot of
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partners all around the world,
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from Asia to
Australia to Europe.
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(horse nickers)
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KRIS: We're here in the middle
of what will hopefully become
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Patagonia National Park.
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But what's going
to happen to this?
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It's one thing to
have a big idea,
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but it's quite another thing
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to be able
to realize it.
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And that's where it takes
working really closely
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with the government.
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This park is one
of five new parks.
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In every case, we've bought
significant territory and
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proposed to the government
to partner with us
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and contribute additional
federal lands.
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DOUG: Alacalufes Reserve
can easily be a national park
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without losing any
productive opportunities.
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RICK: It would be so wonderful
if all these projects were
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ever to actually become
fledged national parks.
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Being convinced that that was
actually going to happen
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was another thing.
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CAROLINA: Chile has been a
country totally based on
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extractive economy.
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It is said that mining
is the salary of Chile,
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it is more than
60% of our exports.
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Today, Chile is the world's
largest copper producer and
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the second largest
lithium producer.
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DOUG: Chile is a mining country.
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It's an extractive economy.
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The mining
industry is a pollutant.
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RODRIGO: The politicians
economical sense was to
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exploit those
lands and the forests.
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So, you know, the people that
were at the government at the
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time didn't get the
idea of the park.
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YVON: In Latin America,
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there's no history
of land philanthropy.
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So here comes this
wacko American,
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goes down there and he says,
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I'm gonna buy up all
this land in Chile,
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and I'm gonna make parks and
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I'm gonna give it
back to the people.
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And they're going,
come on, nobody does that.
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(laughs).
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No, there's gotta
be another reason.
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(chatter)
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KRIS: Doug started
coming down here in 1961.
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He was ski racing, and
all ski racers trained
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in the off season.
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So that's how he began to
understand what Argentina and
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Chile were like.
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And he really liked
it from the beginning.
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So he had this love
affair with Patagonia.
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YVON: It was his idea
to go down to Patagonia.
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So we took off
two weeks later.
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We bought an old van, filled
it up with skis and surfboards
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and climbing gear.
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Driving, I don't know,
10,000, 12,000 miles
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or whatever it is.
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It was a great adventure.
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JIMMY: Super legendary trip.
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I mean, they
defined an entire era.
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They defined an
entire way of life.
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Climbing, surfing,
skiing un-skied peaks.
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And eventually climbing one
of the most difficult and
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significant first
ascents of their time.
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YVON: We spent 60 days
trying to climb Fitz Roy.
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We spent 31 days
in an ice cave.
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I think we had five days where
you had climbable weather.
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DOUG: I was gone for,
you know, nine months.
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Yvon Chouinard, an old
friend of mine and
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three other friends.
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We were in Chile
a very long time.
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YVON: We fell in love
with Patagonia, the area.
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That was my first
time in Patagonia.
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It was like the American
West of 100 years ago,
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but it was authentic.
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So that trip was long
enough so that we really,
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it transformed our lives.
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RICK: When Yvon came down to
Patagonia, the place, in 1968
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with Doug Tompkins to
climb Fitz Roy, it was wild.
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Then we went back
exactly 20 years later.
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And, it was different.
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YVON: Look at this,
they got the streets all
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laid out and everything.
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MAN: They'll be opening up
a McDonald's and a Wimpy's.
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(laughs).
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RICK: The developers had laid
out the grid and put up the
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street signs for what
became the city of Chaiten.
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We also began to notice,
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way back, a long time ago,
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that things were warming up.
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We became aware that
the glaciers were
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starting to retreat.
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We started to learn
more about climate change.
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And Doug was like the first
guy to, to really sense that.
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EDGAR: I think it was a
dual aspect of his voracious
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reading and his being
introduced to certain people
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who led him to other books.
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YVON: He got very much
involved with deep ecology and
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it was a natural fit because
all these deep ecologists
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were all climbers.
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They saw nature
being destroyed and
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if we destroy nature,
we destroy ourselves.
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KRIS: Deep ecology is
simply looking at all life
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as being interconnected.
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All life has intrinsic value.
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It is not reliant on
humans placing value on it.
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♪ ♪
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YVON: After being down
in Patagonia, I thought,
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I want to make clothing for
the conditions down there.
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KRIS: Yvon said, "I want
to make some jackets."
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"I want to call it Patagonia."
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YVON: Patagonia. It's one
of those magical names.
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And the label that
we came up with
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has got that skyline
of Fitz Roy.
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KRIS: For one reason or
another, he said to me,
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you should take this on.
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I ended up creating it,
running it, growing it.
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MELINDA: Yvon has
lots and lots of ideas,
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but he doesn't know
how to get there.
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And Kris could do it and she
also didn't do the bad ideas.
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That's the important part.
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YVON: She was driven
and very confident.
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Eventually she was our
CEO and general manager.
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KRIS: Once Patagonia got going,
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it was, especially for its day,
really a freight train.
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And then in the early 80s,
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Yvon decided that we
should take Patagonia,
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and turn it into an
activist company.
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YVON: I was building my
business and I was getting
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concerned about
the environment.
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I felt like I was going to
push my business to be
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more and more responsible.
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But Doug didn't do that.
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He was strictly building it
as big as you possibly could.
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(laughing)
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PHOTOGRAPHER: Okay Fred Astaire,
go ahead.
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NEWSPERSON: Tompkins is
not a fashion designer.
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The Esprit look is
created by his wife Susie.
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But everything else having to
do with the company's image
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and communicating it to the
public he oversees himself.
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DOUG: Oh yeah, she's great.
Julie Hall, definitely.
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WOMAN: Okay.
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♪ Turn your backon Mother Nature ♪
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♪ Everybody wants torule the world ♪♪
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EDGAR: Esprit had its
own apartment in Milano.
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Esprit had an
apartment in Paris.
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Esprit had an apartment in
New York City and Tokyo.
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You'd walk into the house and
see a Francis Bacon triptych
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worth $5 million
sitting above the fireplace.
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The heyday of Esprit was when
he was totally devoted and
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totally into being the
worldwide entrepreneur
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of a fashion mega business.
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And then there was the change.
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(clicks tongue)
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DOUG: I think it
really changed a lot.
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I just, you know, passed
through that gate somewhere
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towards the end
of the late 80s.
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And I just said, I've
got to do something else.
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KRIS: I think he felt lost.
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He was lost by his own hand.
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DOUG: First order of business
in the fashion industry is to
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create the sense of desire,
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that you needed new things.
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And I started to realize
I shouldn't be doing that
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because I was just adding to
the destruction of the world.
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00:30:16,147 --> 00:30:19,234
EDGAR: So in the latter years
of Esprit their catalogs and
497
00:30:19,234 --> 00:30:21,820
the copy in them is
trying to talk you out of
498
00:30:21,820 --> 00:30:24,572
buying the clothes.
499
00:30:25,323 --> 00:30:27,325
SUSIE: I mean, you can't do
that and still, you know,
500
00:30:27,325 --> 00:30:29,828
try to figure out how you're
going to pay everybody and
501
00:30:29,828 --> 00:30:32,455
move your company forward.
502
00:30:32,705 --> 00:30:37,043
In the early 90s, I just
couldn't take it anymore
503
00:30:37,043 --> 00:30:40,421
and the company was struggling
and I had to just make a
504
00:30:40,421 --> 00:30:44,592
decision that I had
to try to save Esprit.
505
00:30:45,009 --> 00:30:49,514
RICK: He and Susie had
split and they had to
506
00:30:49,514 --> 00:30:52,559
split the company as well.
507
00:30:52,559 --> 00:30:56,604
She bought him out and it was
because he was interested in
508
00:30:56,604 --> 00:30:59,774
heading in new directions.
509
00:31:13,872 --> 00:31:15,748
PETER: He got to go back
to where he was,
510
00:31:15,748 --> 00:31:18,167
the last time he was
really happy probably,
511
00:31:18,167 --> 00:31:20,837
which was Patagonia.
512
00:31:27,844 --> 00:31:34,559
♪ ♪
513
00:31:37,395 --> 00:31:38,980
LITO: I think it was
a big transition,
514
00:31:38,980 --> 00:31:41,190
but one that was
important to him.
515
00:31:41,608 --> 00:31:43,776
He was the same guy,
but a different guy.
516
00:31:43,776 --> 00:31:46,613
I think a more
interesting guy, actually.
517
00:31:47,322 --> 00:31:51,743
RICK: Moving to South America
to commit to a project that
518
00:31:51,743 --> 00:31:55,580
seemed like a
dream of some sort.
519
00:31:55,580 --> 00:31:58,958
Because that was his mantra:
commit and then figure it out.
520
00:31:58,958 --> 00:32:00,752
And that's
exactly what he did.
521
00:32:00,752 --> 00:32:04,130
He committed
everything he had.
522
00:32:07,091 --> 00:32:08,885
CAROLINA: He didn't
come here with a plan.
523
00:32:08,885 --> 00:32:11,471
When he came to Chile
he just wanted to get out
524
00:32:11,471 --> 00:32:14,349
of the Esprit business.
525
00:32:14,974 --> 00:32:18,144
And being a pilot, he realized
that all the farms were owned
526
00:32:18,144 --> 00:32:20,563
by absentee owners.
527
00:32:20,563 --> 00:32:23,983
So he bought, you know, little
farms from small farmers that
528
00:32:23,983 --> 00:32:26,819
they wanted to move on.
529
00:32:26,819 --> 00:32:31,074
Doug bought that 800
hectare farm, Renihue.
530
00:32:32,742 --> 00:32:37,038
DOUG: Well, right actually,
where we're sitting right now,
531
00:32:37,038 --> 00:32:38,831
I lived here
for a year and a half.
532
00:32:38,831 --> 00:32:43,127
This right here was the living
room and the kitchen,
533
00:32:43,127 --> 00:32:48,341
and dining room while I
fixed up the old main house
534
00:32:48,341 --> 00:32:50,051
across the way.
535
00:32:50,051 --> 00:32:52,720
And it was, you know,
no electricity,
536
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:56,557
we have ten feet by eight feet,
537
00:32:56,557 --> 00:32:59,644
or 12 feet by eight feet.
538
00:32:59,644 --> 00:33:02,939
And the, uh,
yeah, you know...
539
00:33:02,939 --> 00:33:04,524
YVON: Whatever.
DOUG: Whatever that is.
540
00:33:04,524 --> 00:33:07,318
(laughs).
541
00:33:08,069 --> 00:33:11,239
You've got two bedrooms,
this is a two bedroom house.
542
00:33:12,699 --> 00:33:15,076
EDGAR: He had a body of money.
543
00:33:15,076 --> 00:33:16,744
It wasn't billionaire money.
544
00:33:16,744 --> 00:33:19,080
It was a chunk, a big chunk.
545
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:21,040
Like 150 million.
546
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:25,628
And he could do a thing
and he chose a thing.
547
00:33:26,796 --> 00:33:30,216
CAROLINA: Our first approach
was to protect that land.
548
00:33:30,216 --> 00:33:33,636
But in those areas, where
there that was the possibility,
549
00:33:33,636 --> 00:33:36,305
was to build
demonstrative farms.
550
00:33:36,305 --> 00:33:39,559
Farms where we could show
ourselves, first of all,
551
00:33:39,559 --> 00:33:43,062
and then the rest of the people
that maybe it was possible to
552
00:33:43,062 --> 00:33:45,982
live in this area,
not cutting the trees,
553
00:33:45,982 --> 00:33:49,277
that that wasn't your only
choice of living there.
554
00:33:51,279 --> 00:33:55,742
So we start in the farms,
we planted berries,
555
00:33:55,742 --> 00:33:59,912
developed honey,
and we made jams,
556
00:33:59,912 --> 00:34:02,790
and we had the sheep
and we got the wool.
557
00:34:02,790 --> 00:34:06,961
And with the wool we created
a network of hand knit craft.
558
00:34:06,961 --> 00:34:08,212
Was that profitable?
559
00:34:08,212 --> 00:34:09,630
No, it wasn't.
560
00:34:09,630 --> 00:34:12,842
You know, every time we sold a
jar of honey, we gave you $5,
561
00:34:12,842 --> 00:34:15,136
Doug used to say that.
562
00:34:15,136 --> 00:34:17,555
But he said he could do that.
563
00:34:17,555 --> 00:34:21,517
He could choose to be
ecologically sustainable
564
00:34:21,517 --> 00:34:24,145
and maybe not
economically sustainable.
565
00:34:24,145 --> 00:34:27,148
And we had the chance to
provide work for many people.
566
00:34:35,323 --> 00:34:38,910
YVON: He used to rag on me in
that I should sell my company
567
00:34:38,910 --> 00:34:42,663
and do the same
thing he's doing,
568
00:34:42,663 --> 00:34:44,665
that he's doing the right thing
569
00:34:44,665 --> 00:34:46,292
and I'm doing the wrong thing.
570
00:34:46,292 --> 00:34:49,670
And I wanted to run my company
in a responsible way,
571
00:34:49,670 --> 00:34:53,966
hanging on to my company
and using it as a tool.
572
00:34:56,052 --> 00:34:59,347
To do that, I said, okay
we got to reassess
573
00:34:59,347 --> 00:35:00,932
what we're doing here.
574
00:35:00,932 --> 00:35:02,266
Our new mission statement is
575
00:35:02,266 --> 00:35:04,352
'We're in business
to save our home planet.'
576
00:35:04,352 --> 00:35:08,481
And so I took a
dozen of our top people
577
00:35:08,481 --> 00:35:12,110
of the company and went
down to Patagonia.
578
00:35:15,613 --> 00:35:19,158
And that's when Doug
met Kris, that same trip.
579
00:35:19,158 --> 00:35:25,164
♪ ♪
580
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:27,834
KRIS: We were in Calafate,
581
00:35:27,834 --> 00:35:30,378
which was then a
really tiny town.
582
00:35:30,878 --> 00:35:35,091
We were in this restaurant
and in walks Doug Tompkins.
583
00:35:37,009 --> 00:35:40,596
And he comes over and he
plunks himself down next to me
584
00:35:40,596 --> 00:35:43,683
and says, Boom!
585
00:35:43,683 --> 00:35:46,227
"Hey, kid, how you doing?"
586
00:35:46,811 --> 00:35:49,105
And then he says,
this is classic Doug,
587
00:35:49,105 --> 00:35:50,940
he said, "What are you doing?"
588
00:35:50,940 --> 00:35:52,900
I said, "Well, we're
leaving tomorrow morning."
589
00:35:52,900 --> 00:35:54,193
"Why are you leaving?"
590
00:35:54,193 --> 00:35:55,486
"This is the end
of this trip."
591
00:35:55,486 --> 00:35:58,739
"Yeah, but why?
Why don't you stay?
592
00:35:58,739 --> 00:36:00,491
In fact, why don't you stay,
593
00:36:00,491 --> 00:36:02,743
and I'll fly you back
to the United States."
594
00:36:02,743 --> 00:36:05,079
So I just said, "No,
and don't ask me again.
595
00:36:05,079 --> 00:36:07,498
I'm not going to fly."
596
00:36:07,498 --> 00:36:09,834
And then he started calling
me from San Francisco
597
00:36:09,834 --> 00:36:11,961
once I was back and he was back.
598
00:36:11,961 --> 00:36:13,379
"Well, what are you doing?"
599
00:36:13,379 --> 00:36:15,339
Well, I'm, you know.
600
00:36:15,339 --> 00:36:17,592
I was involved with
someone else,
601
00:36:17,592 --> 00:36:21,804
but I knew that
that was cascading.
602
00:36:22,805 --> 00:36:25,600
And he's pretty charming.
603
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:28,603
He was very charming.
604
00:36:28,978 --> 00:36:30,229
RICK: Doug called
me up and said,
605
00:36:30,229 --> 00:36:32,857
"Hey, you know that
friend of yours, Kris?
606
00:36:32,857 --> 00:36:34,609
She's a good, buddy
of yours, right?"
607
00:36:34,609 --> 00:36:35,776
And I just go, "Oh, yeah.
608
00:36:35,776 --> 00:36:37,945
She's one of my
closest friends.
609
00:36:37,945 --> 00:36:41,741
She's godmother to all
three of my children."
610
00:36:41,741 --> 00:36:45,161
And he goes, "Yeah.
What do you think of her?"
611
00:36:45,161 --> 00:36:48,372
So I, you know I told
him how great she was.
612
00:36:48,372 --> 00:36:51,167
And then literally the same
day Kris calls me up and goes,
613
00:36:51,167 --> 00:36:55,213
"Hey that guy friend of
Yvon's, Doug Tompkins.
614
00:36:55,213 --> 00:36:57,757
You've been climbing with
him for a while now, yeah?
615
00:36:57,757 --> 00:36:59,133
But you know what..
616
00:36:59,133 --> 00:37:00,384
What kind of guy is he?
617
00:37:00,384 --> 00:37:01,510
Do you know him very well?"
618
00:37:01,510 --> 00:37:03,804
And I went "Oh!"
619
00:37:03,804 --> 00:37:07,558
YVON: I know my wife when she
heard that Doug was interested
620
00:37:07,558 --> 00:37:11,479
in Kris was going,
"Oh my god, it's a disaster."
621
00:37:11,479 --> 00:37:15,566
Because she knew how he had
treated women in the past.
622
00:37:16,108 --> 00:37:17,693
EDGAR: Doug was a wild,
young, bon vivant
623
00:37:17,693 --> 00:37:21,364
with many, many liaisons.
624
00:37:21,364 --> 00:37:23,157
And when Kris was talking
to people about,
625
00:37:23,157 --> 00:37:24,450
'Is this a good thing?'
626
00:37:24,450 --> 00:37:25,993
And people who
knew Doug said,
627
00:37:25,993 --> 00:37:28,454
"No, Doug's changed,
this is going to be good.
628
00:37:28,454 --> 00:37:29,747
Doug's changed."
629
00:37:29,747 --> 00:37:31,874
Other women are going,
630
00:37:31,874 --> 00:37:35,836
"Oh, man, you don't want him
to get near him, this is crazy."
631
00:37:36,754 --> 00:37:38,923
RICK: There was a part of
Doug that was like an ass.
632
00:37:38,923 --> 00:37:42,426
So we were a
little bit nervous.
633
00:37:51,394 --> 00:37:54,230
KRIS: I started working
with Yvon, I was so young.
634
00:37:54,230 --> 00:37:58,567
I think 23 years of that.
635
00:37:58,567 --> 00:38:01,821
I just, I just thought,
636
00:38:01,821 --> 00:38:06,117
I can't, I don't want
to do this anymore.
637
00:38:07,451 --> 00:38:10,705
I was done.
638
00:38:10,705 --> 00:38:13,749
I was done with my life.
639
00:38:13,749 --> 00:38:15,626
Most people think of it,
when I say those things,
640
00:38:15,626 --> 00:38:18,671
that I'm always talking
about Patagonia.
641
00:38:18,671 --> 00:38:19,922
That's not what
I'm talking about.
642
00:38:19,922 --> 00:38:21,924
I'm talking about me.
643
00:38:21,924 --> 00:38:25,344
My life was over.
644
00:38:25,344 --> 00:38:28,764
I had to change it.
645
00:38:30,224 --> 00:38:33,561
I just thought there has to
be something else out there,
646
00:38:33,561 --> 00:38:36,605
something bigger.
647
00:38:38,441 --> 00:38:40,818
Doug would call me
from time to time.
648
00:38:40,818 --> 00:38:42,903
And one night I said, "Well,
I'm going to go to Paris to
649
00:38:42,903 --> 00:38:44,447
work out of the Paris office."
650
00:38:44,447 --> 00:38:47,742
And he goes, "Great.
I'll see you over there."
651
00:38:54,874 --> 00:38:58,294
And true to his form,
he's in Paris.
652
00:38:58,294 --> 00:39:02,256
We go out to dinner, his
favorite restaurant in Paris.
653
00:39:02,256 --> 00:39:06,302
And we're walking around,
walking all around Paris.
654
00:39:06,302 --> 00:39:09,430
He said, "Come
see me in Chile."
655
00:39:09,430 --> 00:39:11,974
I said, "No.
Absolutely not.
656
00:39:11,974 --> 00:39:14,477
You're a world
famous sandbagger."
657
00:39:14,477 --> 00:39:19,648
And he stopped and
looked down at his feet,
658
00:39:19,648 --> 00:39:22,610
and then looked
back up at me and said,
659
00:39:22,610 --> 00:39:26,322
"I will never let anything
happen to you."
660
00:39:27,615 --> 00:39:31,952
It was one of those moments that
you see somebody transform,
661
00:39:31,952 --> 00:39:35,664
even in their own mind.
662
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:40,252
I mean, much later, he said he
knew exactly, that was it,
663
00:39:40,252 --> 00:39:42,004
and so did I.
664
00:39:42,004 --> 00:39:43,589
I thought to myself,
665
00:39:43,589 --> 00:39:47,551
"that's the man I was
supposed to marry."
666
00:39:47,551 --> 00:39:50,554
But it was crazy,
really crazy.
667
00:39:50,554 --> 00:39:52,973
I was engaged to
another person,
668
00:39:52,973 --> 00:39:58,020
so I ended up
leaving that fiancé.
669
00:39:59,021 --> 00:40:03,067
Then I went down to Chile to
visit with Doug for ten days
670
00:40:03,067 --> 00:40:05,986
and I stayed five weeks.
671
00:40:05,986 --> 00:40:08,739
It was chemistry.
672
00:40:08,739 --> 00:40:12,326
When, um, you get
hit by lightning.
673
00:40:13,285 --> 00:40:16,288
I'm going to
leave my role as CEO.
674
00:40:13,285 --> 00:40:16,288
I'm going to
leave my role as CEO.
675
00:40:16,288 --> 00:40:20,626
And we are currently looking
for someone to replace me.
676
00:40:20,626 --> 00:40:26,298
My hope is to have someone in
place by October, train them,
677
00:40:26,298 --> 00:40:30,302
have them shadow me day
to day for three months.
678
00:40:30,302 --> 00:40:37,143
And then January 1st, I bug
out and likely go to Chile,
679
00:40:37,143 --> 00:40:41,063
which is where I'm
thinking that my home will be.
680
00:40:45,109 --> 00:40:47,403
I mean, I blew up my whole...
681
00:40:47,403 --> 00:40:48,487
(laughs).
682
00:40:48,487 --> 00:40:50,114
It was scandalous.
683
00:40:50,114 --> 00:40:53,909
I just blew up
my personal life.
684
00:40:54,618 --> 00:40:56,620
But I was right.
685
00:40:56,620 --> 00:40:58,038
It turned out to
be the great thing.
686
00:40:58,038 --> 00:40:59,665
And it was a big
leap of faith.
687
00:40:59,665 --> 00:41:03,252
I mean, it could easily
have gone either way.
688
00:41:03,252 --> 00:41:07,047
This was insane,
what we were doing.
689
00:41:12,678 --> 00:41:15,264
KRIS (over radio): This isDoug's and my first date.
690
00:41:15,264 --> 00:41:19,393
I just remember thinking,"Oh, God, what have I done?"
691
00:41:20,603 --> 00:41:25,274
And this farm wherewe're headed now,
692
00:41:25,274 --> 00:41:30,196
was absolutely cut off.
693
00:41:33,782 --> 00:41:36,785
KRIS: April 4th, 1994.
694
00:41:36,785 --> 00:41:39,288
Incredible
property Doug has here.
695
00:41:39,288 --> 00:41:41,415
Entire peninsula.
696
00:41:41,415 --> 00:41:43,167
Beautiful glaciers.
697
00:41:43,167 --> 00:41:46,837
Falls, rivers.
698
00:41:47,505 --> 00:41:50,174
April 5th, 1994.
699
00:41:50,174 --> 00:41:52,968
Ice on our sleeping
bags in the morning.
700
00:41:52,968 --> 00:41:55,763
Incredibly clear
and beautiful.
701
00:41:55,763 --> 00:41:58,724
We head south through
Coyhaique Forest.
702
00:41:58,724 --> 00:42:00,768
Sleep at Hotel Nires,
703
00:42:00,768 --> 00:42:02,228
no dinner,
704
00:42:02,228 --> 00:42:04,647
and snuggle to sleep.
705
00:42:06,732 --> 00:42:08,067
May 20th.
706
00:42:08,067 --> 00:42:11,403
Storm now at
fourth day, no let up.
707
00:42:11,403 --> 00:42:15,032
Water being pushed into the
house for force of the winds.
708
00:42:15,032 --> 00:42:17,826
Up at 2 A.M. to tie
down the chimney
709
00:42:17,826 --> 00:42:20,746
and kill a giant rat.
710
00:42:20,746 --> 00:42:23,832
No chance of leaving.
711
00:42:25,251 --> 00:42:27,419
MELINDA: There were
no telephones,
712
00:42:27,419 --> 00:42:30,339
no way to get in and
no way to get out.
713
00:42:30,339 --> 00:42:33,217
So she was isolated with Doug.
714
00:42:38,472 --> 00:42:42,476
KRIS: We're in our 40s and we
want to do all of these things
715
00:42:42,476 --> 00:42:44,853
and they're big and
they're difficult and
716
00:42:44,853 --> 00:42:48,232
there's not a lot of
history out there
717
00:42:48,232 --> 00:42:49,567
of other people doing them.
718
00:42:49,567 --> 00:42:52,570
So you don't, you're sort of
making it up as you go along.
719
00:42:52,570 --> 00:42:56,282
And it was a new marriage.
720
00:42:56,657 --> 00:43:00,703
You just hope that the fibers
of that marriage can withstand
721
00:43:00,703 --> 00:43:05,749
the pressures of working
together, living together
722
00:43:05,749 --> 00:43:09,169
in these intense circumstances.
723
00:43:10,671 --> 00:43:16,760
♪ ♪
724
00:43:20,222 --> 00:43:27,021
(singing in Spanish)
725
00:43:31,734 --> 00:43:37,031
(applause)
726
00:43:37,948 --> 00:43:40,951
CAROLINA: At the beginning,
the first part was to make
727
00:43:40,951 --> 00:43:43,162
a nature sanctuary.
728
00:43:43,162 --> 00:43:45,331
It was a way to
protect the land.
729
00:43:45,331 --> 00:43:50,252
But some year along the way,
uh, Doug and Kris developed
730
00:43:50,252 --> 00:43:55,007
this idea of creating national
parks and our work took a
731
00:43:55,007 --> 00:43:57,885
really big shift then.
732
00:44:01,764 --> 00:44:04,141
KRIS: So this is
where we got started.
733
00:44:04,141 --> 00:44:06,018
This is where we were living.
734
00:44:06,018 --> 00:44:08,937
And all of this section became
Pumalín, from the border with
735
00:44:08,937 --> 00:44:12,441
Argentina all the way out
to the Pacific Ocean.
736
00:44:12,441 --> 00:44:13,984
This is the first one.
737
00:44:13,984 --> 00:44:19,365
We bought 763,000 acres
and it increased from there.
738
00:44:19,365 --> 00:44:22,660
None of this is
ever done in a vacuum.
739
00:44:22,660 --> 00:44:28,749
We go out immediately and
talk to everybody, mayors,
740
00:44:28,749 --> 00:44:31,210
everybody involved.
741
00:44:31,210 --> 00:44:33,045
So there's a lot of suspicion.
742
00:44:33,045 --> 00:44:36,882
And many times a
lot of pushback.
743
00:44:38,133 --> 00:44:41,095
DOUG: We're coming to
talk to the mayor here.
744
00:44:41,095 --> 00:44:44,807
We want to explain to her what
the idea of donating this land
745
00:44:44,807 --> 00:44:46,975
that's out in her district.
746
00:44:46,975 --> 00:44:49,269
I think that, you know,
she'll be supportive of this,
747
00:44:49,269 --> 00:44:51,605
she understands
about conservation.
748
00:44:51,605 --> 00:44:53,524
MAN: The project is
to create the national park
749
00:44:53,524 --> 00:44:56,610
starting at Cabo Leon and
include the nature reserve.
750
00:44:57,277 --> 00:44:59,488
DOUG: We have to say
"we have a national park"
751
00:44:59,738 --> 00:45:04,034
because national parks create
their own touristic pull.
752
00:45:06,328 --> 00:45:09,123
KRIS: In this area, this is
all temperate rainforest.
753
00:45:09,123 --> 00:45:11,375
It's impenetrable.
754
00:45:11,375 --> 00:45:15,337
So the opposition was largely
from the federal government
755
00:45:15,337 --> 00:45:16,839
at this point.
756
00:45:16,839 --> 00:45:22,553
This is where five years of
serious political and
757
00:45:22,553 --> 00:45:25,139
social conflict took place.
758
00:45:26,682 --> 00:45:28,517
INTERVIEWER: What is it
you don't like about
759
00:45:28,517 --> 00:45:30,352
Douglas Tompkins' project?
760
00:45:30,352 --> 00:45:32,020
JAIME: They don't
want any progress.
761
00:45:32,688 --> 00:45:34,648
We are a poor country,
762
00:45:35,149 --> 00:45:36,984
we need the progress
763
00:45:37,401 --> 00:45:41,613
to raise our standard.
764
00:45:41,613 --> 00:45:44,116
RODRIGO: We were coming from
a dictatorship in the country
765
00:45:44,116 --> 00:45:45,367
for 20 years,
766
00:45:45,367 --> 00:45:48,954
so there's a hardcore
right wing politicians
767
00:45:48,954 --> 00:45:51,915
that wouldn't understand
the philanthropy.
768
00:45:52,875 --> 00:45:54,877
NEWSPERSON: Chile is a country
that has good reason to be
769
00:45:54,877 --> 00:45:56,128
suspect of Americans.
770
00:45:56,128 --> 00:45:58,046
(explosion)
771
00:45:58,464 --> 00:46:01,258
In 1973, the Nixon
administration supported
772
00:46:01,258 --> 00:46:04,428
the coup that began 17 years
of brutal dictatorship
773
00:46:04,428 --> 00:46:07,473
under General Augusto Pinochet.
774
00:46:07,473 --> 00:46:09,767
Yet when the Tompkins began
assembling cheap wilderness
775
00:46:09,767 --> 00:46:11,727
land for conservation here,
776
00:46:11,727 --> 00:46:15,522
they were stunned to be
labeled ugly Americans.
777
00:46:16,106 --> 00:46:18,150
ANDRES: To be fair, at the
same time, you know,
778
00:46:18,150 --> 00:46:20,903
Chile is a very long and
very thin country.
779
00:46:20,903 --> 00:46:25,449
And Doug and Kris were
buying a lot of land,
780
00:46:25,449 --> 00:46:27,701
which, you know, amounted to
781
00:46:27,701 --> 00:46:30,287
a good chunk of
one of Chile's regions.
782
00:46:30,996 --> 00:46:33,624
PEDRO: The main concern
of the military and the navy was
783
00:46:33,624 --> 00:46:37,461
having Mr. Tompkins owning
such an amount of foreign land
784
00:46:37,461 --> 00:46:40,380
that went from the
border to the ocean.
785
00:46:40,380 --> 00:46:43,634
So he was accused of cutting
the country in two pieces
786
00:46:44,134 --> 00:46:47,346
EDGAR: Now the right wing
in Chile was going
787
00:46:47,346 --> 00:46:48,472
through the roof,
788
00:46:48,472 --> 00:46:51,558
trying to figure out
ways to deal with this.
789
00:46:51,975 --> 00:46:55,646
KRIS: March 13, 1995.
790
00:46:55,646 --> 00:46:58,065
Virtually every
newspaper around Chile and
791
00:46:58,065 --> 00:47:01,193
all television stations
covering us last night
792
00:47:01,193 --> 00:47:03,362
and again this morning.
793
00:47:03,362 --> 00:47:05,572
Heavy attacks from
the ultra right wing
794
00:47:05,572 --> 00:47:09,785
and the salmon industry.
795
00:47:10,452 --> 00:47:12,538
We were taking up
the fight against
796
00:47:12,538 --> 00:47:15,165
commercial salmon farming.
797
00:47:16,834 --> 00:47:18,502
DOUG: These are fish farms.
798
00:47:18,502 --> 00:47:22,339
These are the equivalent
of uh, hog farms.
799
00:47:22,339 --> 00:47:24,424
You go down to the ocean floor,
you'll see underneath
800
00:47:24,424 --> 00:47:27,469
these cages here, a dead sea.
801
00:47:27,469 --> 00:47:30,138
Marine ecology
has been smothered.
802
00:47:30,138 --> 00:47:33,267
Nothing's living
under these cages.
803
00:47:33,267 --> 00:47:37,187
CAROLINA: The sea lions would
go towards the cages to eat.
804
00:47:37,187 --> 00:47:42,693
So we used to find sea lions
dead with gunshots on the beach.
805
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:48,407
KRIS: Doug put a
wanted dead or alive.
806
00:47:48,407 --> 00:47:53,495
We'll give anyone $2500
that leads to the guy
807
00:47:53,495 --> 00:47:56,498
who's killing the sea lions.
808
00:47:56,498 --> 00:47:59,793
And that was
just gas on a fire.
809
00:48:00,335 --> 00:48:03,171
April 21st, 1995.
810
00:48:03,171 --> 00:48:06,633
More attacks in the
newspaper against Doug and me.
811
00:48:07,092 --> 00:48:10,554
It's beginning to seem a
clear threat to our life here.
812
00:48:12,222 --> 00:48:14,308
October 17th.
813
00:48:14,308 --> 00:48:16,602
Phones tapped for sure now.
814
00:48:16,602 --> 00:48:20,355
New allegations against us
coming from the military.
815
00:48:20,355 --> 00:48:23,025
Wondering what will fall next.
816
00:48:23,025 --> 00:48:25,944
Worried for Doug's safety.
817
00:48:26,528 --> 00:48:28,697
YVON: They had to hide out
in the American embassy
818
00:48:28,697 --> 00:48:29,948
for a while.
819
00:48:29,948 --> 00:48:31,241
They had death threats.
820
00:48:31,241 --> 00:48:35,162
The FBI told us, my wife and I,
that our phone was tapped.
821
00:48:35,537 --> 00:48:38,040
You know, we were
friends of the Tompkins.
822
00:48:39,958 --> 00:48:43,420
BELISARIO: The government
isn't harassing him.
823
00:48:44,755 --> 00:48:46,673
CLAUDIO: Well, there was
a lot of suspicion.
824
00:48:46,924 --> 00:48:53,180
It seemed to be the first step
in acquiring cheap land
825
00:48:53,180 --> 00:48:56,934
to then sell at higher prices.
826
00:48:57,976 --> 00:49:02,189
So, the collective imagination
gives rise to many things.
827
00:49:03,148 --> 00:49:06,777
MICHELLE: At that time I
was minister, yes, minister.
828
00:49:06,777 --> 00:49:09,404
And I was
studying defense issues.
829
00:49:09,404 --> 00:49:11,990
And the military had
all kinds of theories,
830
00:49:11,990 --> 00:49:14,242
that this was Israel
who was trying to
831
00:49:14,242 --> 00:49:17,496
take power of
Chile, etc., etc..
832
00:49:17,496 --> 00:49:20,415
KRIS: We were accused of
creating a new nuclear waste
833
00:49:20,415 --> 00:49:23,085
site for the United States,
834
00:49:23,085 --> 00:49:24,670
a new Jewish state,
835
00:49:24,670 --> 00:49:27,381
even though we were
raised as Anglicans,
836
00:49:27,381 --> 00:49:29,466
a new base for the
Argentine military
837
00:49:29,466 --> 00:49:32,928
to come in and finish
Chile off once and for all.
838
00:49:32,928 --> 00:49:35,055
A really good one was that
we were going to take all the
839
00:49:35,055 --> 00:49:37,474
cattle out of southern Chile
and replace it with
840
00:49:37,474 --> 00:49:39,768
American bison.
841
00:49:40,644 --> 00:49:42,646
INTERVIEWER: Between the two
of you with all your projects
842
00:49:42,646 --> 00:49:46,233
in Chile and Argentina, how
many acres are we talking?
843
00:49:46,233 --> 00:49:47,943
DOUG: About 2 million.
844
00:49:47,943 --> 00:49:49,111
INTERVIEWER: 2 million?
845
00:49:49,111 --> 00:49:50,737
KRIS: Yeah, just
under 2 million.
846
00:49:50,737 --> 00:49:52,406
INTERVIEWER: It's an
awful lot of acres.
847
00:49:52,406 --> 00:49:54,074
KRIS: It's peanuts.
848
00:49:54,074 --> 00:49:59,079
If you weigh it against what's
being saved on an annual basis
849
00:49:59,079 --> 00:50:01,999
versus what's been destroyed.
850
00:50:01,999 --> 00:50:05,002
We're on the losing team.
851
00:50:07,754 --> 00:50:12,009
We're losing wilderness at the
rate of 40 million acres a year.
852
00:50:15,637 --> 00:50:18,306
At this rate, we'll lose
all wilderness within
853
00:50:18,306 --> 00:50:20,767
the next 50 years.
854
00:50:22,060 --> 00:50:24,896
People can say, "Oh, the
Tompkins have protected over
855
00:50:24,896 --> 00:50:27,107
2 million acres of land."
856
00:50:27,107 --> 00:50:29,234
And it is a lot of land,
857
00:50:29,234 --> 00:50:31,236
but it's a drop in the
bucket compared to
858
00:50:31,236 --> 00:50:34,364
what's taking place every day,
859
00:50:34,364 --> 00:50:36,783
whether it's in the
forests in Indonesia
860
00:50:36,783 --> 00:50:40,871
or grasslands in Eastern Africa,
wherever it is.
861
00:50:41,830 --> 00:50:44,541
It's not as though we
are gaining ground.
862
00:50:44,541 --> 00:50:47,711
We're just trying to
hold back the onslaught.
863
00:50:49,546 --> 00:50:53,967
We're at this perfect storm of
rising human population base,
864
00:50:53,967 --> 00:50:57,596
rising consumption and a
fall in natural resources.
865
00:50:57,596 --> 00:51:01,058
And yet anybody who could
really change some of that,
866
00:51:01,058 --> 00:51:05,020
they're unwilling to because
the cultural impact of those
867
00:51:05,020 --> 00:51:08,065
changes is just too
much for them to consider.
868
00:51:12,819 --> 00:51:16,323
When we tried to make
Corcovado Park,
869
00:51:16,323 --> 00:51:19,451
we ran straight
into the military.
870
00:51:20,035 --> 00:51:22,704
A lot of what would eventually
become the park was
871
00:51:22,704 --> 00:51:24,623
owned by the military.
872
00:51:24,623 --> 00:51:28,668
And they were using the
area as a bombing range.
873
00:51:32,047 --> 00:51:36,259
Doug was meeting with Generals
to try to convince them to
874
00:51:36,259 --> 00:51:40,055
preserve this place
and stop the bombing.
875
00:51:45,060 --> 00:51:48,105
Before we go to the government
to make an offer,
876
00:51:48,105 --> 00:51:51,358
we're completely prepared
saying this is what
877
00:51:51,358 --> 00:51:53,318
we have invested in the land.
878
00:51:53,819 --> 00:51:56,947
(speaking Spanish)
879
00:51:56,947 --> 00:51:58,740
We said to the government,
880
00:51:58,740 --> 00:52:02,077
we'll donate our park with
all the infrastructure
881
00:52:02,077 --> 00:52:07,624
if you match one of our acres
with up to nine acres of
882
00:52:07,624 --> 00:52:10,710
unused federal land.
883
00:52:12,129 --> 00:52:16,842
That leveraging allows us to
do something much greater than
884
00:52:16,842 --> 00:52:20,595
what would have been possible
for us to do by ourselves.
885
00:52:23,515 --> 00:52:26,768
Patagonia Park was another
very contentious project.
886
00:52:27,769 --> 00:52:31,148
We bought several thousand
acres in Argentina and then we
887
00:52:31,148 --> 00:52:35,986
bought an old estancia,
and 200,000 acres in Chile.
888
00:52:36,528 --> 00:52:39,156
We had an idea that this park
could eventually go across the
889
00:52:39,156 --> 00:52:40,866
border to Argentina,
890
00:52:40,866 --> 00:52:44,494
to protect a couple of
million acres in total.
891
00:52:44,494 --> 00:52:47,789
In the case of the
nearby communities,
892
00:52:47,789 --> 00:52:51,710
it was by and large
a ranching story.
893
00:52:51,710 --> 00:52:55,046
And some people were upset
that we would be taking one of
894
00:52:55,046 --> 00:52:58,300
the largest ranches in
Chile out of production.
895
00:53:02,179 --> 00:53:06,933
And when we got to Ibera, it
was incredibly challenging.
896
00:53:10,353 --> 00:53:11,855
REPORTER (over TV): Someresidents say that they've
897
00:53:11,855 --> 00:53:14,691
been displaced and thenignored by the people they
898
00:53:14,691 --> 00:53:17,360
sometimes referto as eco-barons.
899
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:22,115
WOMAN: We don't believe
Tompkins is a multimillionaire
900
00:53:22,115 --> 00:53:26,494
who suddenly turned
into a philanthropist.
901
00:53:28,205 --> 00:53:30,874
KRIS: There were also disputes
about land deeds and titles
902
00:53:30,874 --> 00:53:33,084
around Pumalín.
903
00:53:34,544 --> 00:53:38,131
CLAUDIO: The 1 or 2%,
which would represent
904
00:53:38,131 --> 00:53:41,509
approximately 200 families,
905
00:53:41,509 --> 00:53:47,057
they felt their presence in the
area was being "threatened".
906
00:53:48,767 --> 00:53:52,062
KRIS: We spent five years going
out and getting everyone their
907
00:53:52,062 --> 00:53:55,065
land titles, so that they
would be comfortable,
908
00:53:55,065 --> 00:53:58,109
so there would be
no question about
909
00:53:58,109 --> 00:54:02,155
what's yours and
what belongs to the park.
910
00:54:03,198 --> 00:54:06,534
DOUG: I'll say that we're as
good as anybody in the country,
911
00:54:06,534 --> 00:54:10,705
uh, about how we have
dealt with land disputes.
912
00:54:10,705 --> 00:54:12,624
NEWSPERSON: Is that the
one that hurts the most?
913
00:54:12,624 --> 00:54:15,043
DOUG: That's the one that
hurts the most because, um,
914
00:54:15,043 --> 00:54:17,629
it's been just the
absolute opposite.
915
00:54:18,046 --> 00:54:20,006
KRIS: It wasn't only
individuals and some
916
00:54:20,006 --> 00:54:22,425
politicians who were opposed,
917
00:54:22,425 --> 00:54:25,595
but there were some
institutions as well.
918
00:54:25,595 --> 00:54:28,348
NEWSPERSON: Opposition to the
Tompkins is being fermented
919
00:54:28,348 --> 00:54:32,143
by none other than
the Catholic church.
920
00:54:32,143 --> 00:54:35,647
This is the missing
link of Pumalín Park.
921
00:54:35,647 --> 00:54:38,441
30,000 hectares of land owned
by the Catholic Church
922
00:54:38,441 --> 00:54:40,360
known as Winai.
923
00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:44,114
Douglas Tompkins came
this close to getting Winai.
924
00:54:44,489 --> 00:54:46,199
DOUG: What happened was,
pressure was put on the
925
00:54:46,199 --> 00:54:48,576
Catholic University not to
sell to us, and they sold to
926
00:54:48,576 --> 00:54:49,995
the power company,
927
00:54:49,995 --> 00:54:52,205
to Endesa, the
big power monopoly.
928
00:54:52,205 --> 00:54:54,124
NEWSPERSON: That would seem
pretty spiteful thing to do.
929
00:54:54,124 --> 00:54:56,835
DOUG: It was, it was.
930
00:54:58,586 --> 00:55:01,423
KRIS: Okay, but this property
down on Lago General Carreras,
931
00:55:01,423 --> 00:55:02,632
are we buying that?
932
00:55:02,632 --> 00:55:03,675
DOUG: Yeah.
933
00:55:03,675 --> 00:55:04,509
PEDRO: They had to have
934
00:55:04,509 --> 00:55:07,053
a lot of faith in
what they were doing.
935
00:55:07,595 --> 00:55:11,933
98% of the people would
have simply given up and said,
936
00:55:11,933 --> 00:55:14,436
"Impossible to live
in your country"
937
00:55:14,436 --> 00:55:19,441
Because we behaved,
Chileans, very badly.
938
00:55:25,447 --> 00:55:29,826
KRIS: February 25th,
everyday more news to bear.
939
00:55:30,535 --> 00:55:34,497
Doug completely overpowered
with anger and frustration.
940
00:55:34,497 --> 00:55:37,584
And my nerves are frayed.
941
00:55:37,584 --> 00:55:39,711
Why are we doing this?
942
00:55:39,711 --> 00:55:43,173
I go home to serious
confrontation,
943
00:55:43,173 --> 00:55:47,969
a lot of crying, honesty
and a loving response.
944
00:55:50,430 --> 00:55:53,641
DOUG: I'm thinking about
maybe filling all of this up
945
00:55:53,892 --> 00:55:56,895
but I don't want something
that is too straight
946
00:55:59,022 --> 00:56:00,565
Like that, and
then it curves out.
947
00:56:00,565 --> 00:56:04,027
That way it has a
natural appearance.
948
00:56:05,570 --> 00:56:08,656
DOUG: I believe
in public access.
949
00:56:08,656 --> 00:56:11,826
We have to build public
access infrastructure.
950
00:56:12,827 --> 00:56:15,455
You have visitor centers,
you have campgrounds,
951
00:56:15,455 --> 00:56:18,541
even hotels, parking areas,
952
00:56:18,541 --> 00:56:20,085
trails, trailheads,
953
00:56:20,085 --> 00:56:23,546
offices for administration,
signage.
954
00:56:23,546 --> 00:56:26,674
You've got all that kind
of stuff that goes into
955
00:56:26,674 --> 00:56:28,343
making up a national park.
956
00:56:28,343 --> 00:56:30,678
(speaking Spanish)
957
00:56:30,678 --> 00:56:33,723
RICK: He was such
a perfectionist.
958
00:56:34,349 --> 00:56:36,726
When he ran Esprit he had a
little sign above his desk
959
00:56:36,726 --> 00:56:40,605
that said,
"no detail is small."
960
00:56:42,565 --> 00:56:45,318
DAGO: Doug was convinced
that a world without beauty
961
00:56:45,318 --> 00:56:46,653
wasn't worth it.
962
00:56:48,446 --> 00:56:50,407
KRIS: You have to remember
that for Doug,
963
00:56:50,407 --> 00:56:53,326
these are canvases.
964
00:56:55,120 --> 00:57:00,375
And what he did do is
he created a dogged,
965
00:57:00,375 --> 00:57:04,421
relentless pursuit of beauty.
966
00:57:05,463 --> 00:57:08,883
DOUG: The tractor
driver is like an artist.
967
00:57:09,342 --> 00:57:13,638
You can paint the landscape
with the tractor
968
00:57:14,305 --> 00:57:18,101
but you must have
good technique.
969
00:57:18,351 --> 00:57:21,229
Because later we are
going to take a photo
970
00:57:21,229 --> 00:57:25,066
and see your work, the work.
971
00:57:34,993 --> 00:57:38,037
KRIS: When we first began to
work in Chile and Argentina,
972
00:57:38,037 --> 00:57:43,543
we thought we were just
protecting vast territories.
973
00:57:44,752 --> 00:57:47,672
But in fact,
it's like they say,
974
00:57:47,672 --> 00:57:52,552
landscape without wildlife
is just scenery.
975
00:57:54,929 --> 00:57:57,765
Everything changed
when we got to Ibera.
976
00:57:58,016 --> 00:58:01,269
We realized that a lot of
species were missing
977
00:58:01,269 --> 00:58:03,605
from the jaguars
all the way down.
978
00:58:03,605 --> 00:58:05,982
We were no longer
in the business of
979
00:58:05,982 --> 00:58:08,193
making National Parks.
980
00:58:08,193 --> 00:58:10,028
We were in the
business of creating
981
00:58:10,028 --> 00:58:13,323
fully functioning ecosystems.
982
00:58:13,323 --> 00:58:15,700
Time to rewild.
983
00:58:18,077 --> 00:58:21,998
Simply put, rewilding is
bringing back the species
984
00:58:21,998 --> 00:58:27,337
that belong in a place but have
been lost for whatever reason.
985
00:58:28,922 --> 00:58:32,926
Poaching, hunting,
grazing of livestock.
986
00:58:34,344 --> 00:58:38,515
CRISTIÁN: Each species plays a
major role in the ecosystem.
987
00:58:39,307 --> 00:58:42,393
So that guanacos
are in large numbers
988
00:58:42,810 --> 00:58:44,812
to provide food for pumas,
989
00:58:45,313 --> 00:58:47,315
Pumas are preying on guanacos
990
00:58:47,315 --> 00:58:49,567
and are providing
food for scavengers.
991
00:58:50,443 --> 00:58:54,864
It's not merely the recovery
of a single species
992
00:58:55,448 --> 00:58:58,451
it's the interaction.
993
00:58:59,536 --> 00:59:01,621
The rewilding program has
994
00:59:01,621 --> 00:59:03,706
our park wardens
995
00:59:03,706 --> 00:59:05,667
many of them are former cowboys
996
00:59:06,125 --> 00:59:09,420
but today they are
monitoring pumas.
997
00:59:14,551 --> 00:59:17,929
KRIS: Arcelio was the son
of the Chief Puma hunter.
998
00:59:17,929 --> 00:59:19,806
So he would go out
with his father
999
00:59:19,806 --> 00:59:22,100
and they were paid a salary,
1000
00:59:22,100 --> 00:59:24,435
but they were paid a bonus for
every skin they brought back.
1001
00:59:24,811 --> 00:59:29,065
KRIS: What would your father
think if he could see you now...
1002
00:59:29,065 --> 00:59:31,150
doing all of this?
1003
00:59:33,987 --> 00:59:35,446
With so many pumas!
1004
00:59:35,446 --> 00:59:37,323
ARCELIO: With so many
pumas without killing them!
1005
00:59:37,323 --> 00:59:39,450
KRIS: Without killing
any of them!
1006
00:59:39,701 --> 00:59:41,160
It's a shift!
1007
00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:43,955
ARCELIO: Of course it's a shift.
It's a huge shift for me!
1008
00:59:46,624 --> 00:59:49,085
DOUG: From an ethical
standpoint, we have to serve
1009
00:59:49,085 --> 00:59:51,963
biodiversity as a principle.
1010
00:59:51,963 --> 00:59:53,965
We have to share the
planet with other creatures.
1011
00:59:53,965 --> 00:59:58,136
That means we have to
make habitat available for
1012
00:59:58,136 --> 01:00:01,055
evolution to
continue to unfold.
1013
01:00:01,806 --> 01:00:03,141
We are squeezing out creatures
1014
01:00:03,141 --> 01:00:06,227
from their habitat
by over-expanding.
1015
01:00:06,227 --> 01:00:08,646
It's a self defeating
development and
1016
01:00:08,646 --> 01:00:11,107
that's what we find
is pathological.
1017
01:00:11,107 --> 01:00:13,192
That we're continuing to
expand and expand and expand
1018
01:00:13,192 --> 01:00:16,529
until the inevitable collapse.
1019
01:00:18,990 --> 01:00:25,788
♪ ♪
1020
01:00:30,501 --> 01:00:33,254
KRIS: February 18th.
1021
01:00:33,254 --> 01:00:36,966
Lolo, why did we never
climb our mountain together?
1022
01:00:38,509 --> 01:00:40,762
It's such a gift to be up here
1023
01:00:40,762 --> 01:00:44,098
and see all of this
through your eyes.
1024
01:00:47,268 --> 01:00:48,895
JIMMY: Doug made
the first ascent.
1025
01:00:48,895 --> 01:00:50,480
And, you know, traditionally,
1026
01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:52,065
when you make the
first ascent of a mountain,
1027
01:00:52,065 --> 01:00:54,776
you get to name it.
1028
01:00:54,776 --> 01:00:58,321
And Doug named it after Kris.
1029
01:00:58,321 --> 01:01:01,032
Great, great, great push.
1030
01:01:01,032 --> 01:01:04,035
That was huge!
1031
01:01:04,035 --> 01:01:08,706
KRIS: So, Kristine is the
highest point in the park and
1032
01:01:08,706 --> 01:01:12,126
sort of the crown jewel.
1033
01:01:12,377 --> 01:01:14,879
RICK: You know, you can't do
a better Valentine's present
1034
01:01:14,879 --> 01:01:17,548
than that for your wife.
1035
01:01:18,424 --> 01:01:21,803
KRIS: Yeah, he was always
doing stuff like that for me.
1036
01:01:24,889 --> 01:01:26,391
RODRIGO: No, they were
intense, but they were totally
1037
01:01:26,391 --> 01:01:29,435
deep in love, you could tell.
1038
01:01:29,852 --> 01:01:32,522
He was always taking
care of her and likewise.
1039
01:01:34,107 --> 01:01:36,651
TIMMY: I mean, you would see
them together and it was like
1040
01:01:36,651 --> 01:01:41,155
teenage kids, you know, like
off in the corner, canoodling.
1041
01:01:42,031 --> 01:01:44,450
It was all about love.
1042
01:01:45,201 --> 01:01:48,287
LITO: I think virtually every
day he would send her
1043
01:01:48,287 --> 01:01:50,123
these messages.
1044
01:01:50,123 --> 01:01:52,959
They were photo messages.
1045
01:01:53,376 --> 01:01:55,420
EDGAR: They had their
nicknames for each other
1046
01:01:55,420 --> 01:01:58,256
and she was 'Birdy'.
1047
01:01:58,256 --> 01:02:04,595
LITO: I can recall, vividly,
a really lovely DVD he made.
1048
01:02:07,473 --> 01:02:10,268
DOUG: The love of my life
is a world class woman
1049
01:02:10,268 --> 01:02:12,603
for all seasons.
1050
01:02:12,603 --> 01:02:16,441
She's so beautiful at 60.
1051
01:02:16,441 --> 01:02:18,693
You are my
number one and only.
1052
01:02:26,033 --> 01:02:28,828
YVON: That's a secret side
of Doug I never saw, but...
1053
01:02:28,828 --> 01:02:31,456
(laughs).
1054
01:02:34,917 --> 01:02:36,627
RICK: There it is.
1055
01:02:36,627 --> 01:02:38,129
It's quite a peak, huh?
1056
01:02:38,129 --> 01:02:39,964
KRIS: It is.
1057
01:02:39,964 --> 01:02:43,134
I'm so happy to be right here.
1058
01:02:45,762 --> 01:02:49,140
RICK: Jimmy and I
were here before.
1059
01:02:49,140 --> 01:02:55,146
We were here 12 years ago
with Yvon and Doug.
1060
01:03:05,072 --> 01:03:09,911
♪ ♪
1061
01:03:09,911 --> 01:03:14,123
(cheering)
1062
01:03:17,001 --> 01:03:20,004
(cheering)
1063
01:03:20,004 --> 01:03:22,256
JIMMY: That's
another one for us!
1064
01:03:22,673 --> 01:03:24,383
YVON: First Medicaid ascent.
1065
01:03:24,383 --> 01:03:25,968
(laughing)
1066
01:03:25,968 --> 01:03:28,471
DOUG: You can't beat it.
1067
01:03:29,347 --> 01:03:33,643
RICK: I remember having
an incredible sunset,
1068
01:03:33,643 --> 01:03:36,729
just like the one
we had last night.
1069
01:03:36,729 --> 01:03:39,857
I was thinking about Doug.
1070
01:03:40,900 --> 01:03:43,486
DOUG: Now it's my
biological clock ticking.
1071
01:03:43,486 --> 01:03:45,905
I really feel it.
1072
01:03:45,905 --> 01:03:47,615
YVON: You've got a lot of
jobs you've got to finish.
1073
01:03:47,615 --> 01:03:50,827
DOUG: I got projects to do,
that are long term projects.
1074
01:03:50,827 --> 01:03:52,912
And, you know, you're
thinking, you know,
1075
01:03:52,912 --> 01:03:54,580
I'm going to make
it to finish that.
1076
01:03:54,580 --> 01:03:57,208
I'm really interested
to see if we could
1077
01:03:57,208 --> 01:03:58,626
finish this or finish that.
1078
01:03:58,626 --> 01:03:59,961
And it takes a lot of time.
1079
01:03:59,961 --> 01:04:01,379
Time is everything.
1080
01:04:01,379 --> 01:04:03,422
Yeah, it's the most valuable.
1081
01:04:03,422 --> 01:04:04,841
YVON: Always is.
1082
01:04:04,841 --> 01:04:07,343
DOUG: Life flies by.
1083
01:04:07,343 --> 01:04:09,804
YVON: Yeah.
1084
01:04:21,107 --> 01:04:25,069
KRIS: I had talked Doug
into going on this trip,
1085
01:04:25,069 --> 01:04:28,906
well at first, and then he
became enthusiastic about it.
1086
01:04:28,906 --> 01:04:32,285
RICK: We thought it'd be fun
to do a sea kayak trip of this
1087
01:04:32,285 --> 01:04:36,455
big lake not far from the
Patagonia National Park.
1088
01:04:37,582 --> 01:04:40,001
KRIS: We took them all to
the lake and they spent hours
1089
01:04:40,001 --> 01:04:41,794
getting all their boats ready.
1090
01:04:41,794 --> 01:04:43,462
Let's go honey!
1091
01:04:45,923 --> 01:04:47,884
MELINDA: They were
world class kayakers,
1092
01:04:47,884 --> 01:04:51,971
but they hired somebody
to put a trip together.
1093
01:04:54,348 --> 01:04:56,434
KRIS: They took
the Zodiac out,
1094
01:04:56,434 --> 01:05:00,104
then put their
boats in the water.
1095
01:05:02,607 --> 01:05:05,693
RICK: Doug and I
were in a double kayak.
1096
01:05:05,693 --> 01:05:09,405
Yvon and Weston
were in singles,
1097
01:05:09,405 --> 01:05:12,700
and Jeb and Lorenzo
were in another double.
1098
01:05:13,618 --> 01:05:16,746
The fourth day the wind
really started to come up.
1099
01:05:18,414 --> 01:05:21,000
MELINDA: The wind was
blowing eight foot waves
1100
01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:23,169
every which direction.
1101
01:05:23,169 --> 01:05:25,338
RICK: We're having trouble
with the rudder of this boat
1102
01:05:25,338 --> 01:05:27,673
that we had borrowed.
1103
01:05:29,884 --> 01:05:32,386
It was really getting
increasingly difficult for
1104
01:05:32,386 --> 01:05:36,140
Doug and me to keep our
boat pointed downwind.
1105
01:05:38,476 --> 01:05:42,271
This wave hit us, all of
the sudden we're upside down.
1106
01:05:43,230 --> 01:05:45,316
And so I said to Doug,
1107
01:05:45,316 --> 01:05:48,235
"God I wonder if we should
try to swim for it.
1108
01:05:48,235 --> 01:05:49,904
Because if we get out in
the middle of a lake,
1109
01:05:49,904 --> 01:05:52,782
we're dead, for sure."
1110
01:05:53,199 --> 01:05:56,661
And then we both said, "Okay,
let's try and go for it."
1111
01:05:58,829 --> 01:06:02,708
I thought, you know, I've
probably got 10 minutes left.
1112
01:06:02,708 --> 01:06:05,127
You can only stay alive
in water that cold for
1113
01:06:05,127 --> 01:06:07,213
a half hour, maybe.
1114
01:06:07,505 --> 01:06:09,715
And then another wave broke
over me and I realized I was
1115
01:06:09,715 --> 01:06:12,259
starting to drown.
1116
01:06:12,259 --> 01:06:14,261
And then something snapped.
1117
01:06:14,261 --> 01:06:17,348
And I said, I screamed, "No."
1118
01:06:17,348 --> 01:06:20,059
I started swimming
as hard as I could.
1119
01:06:21,435 --> 01:06:23,813
And in a minute,
Jeb and Lorenzo arrived
1120
01:06:23,813 --> 01:06:25,272
in their double kayak.
1121
01:06:25,272 --> 01:06:28,567
I grabbed onto the back
and they started towing me.
1122
01:06:31,904 --> 01:06:34,991
WESTON: I just happened
to arrive to Doug first.
1123
01:06:35,241 --> 01:06:39,537
He grabbed onto the back of
my kayak and I got the kayak
1124
01:06:39,537 --> 01:06:43,249
turned towards shore
and began to paddle.
1125
01:06:43,249 --> 01:06:46,252
He was not panicking,
he was kicking.
1126
01:06:46,252 --> 01:06:47,920
He could have so easily
grabbed on to me,
1127
01:06:47,920 --> 01:06:50,172
flipped me over.
1128
01:06:51,632 --> 01:06:54,844
But, there was no way to
fight the hypothermia that was
1129
01:06:54,844 --> 01:06:55,970
starting to set in.
1130
01:06:55,970 --> 01:06:59,390
And I could really feel that
he was losing strength to kick
1131
01:06:59,390 --> 01:07:01,892
and hold on.
1132
01:07:01,892 --> 01:07:05,938
In the final moment, Doug was
looking up the Aveano valley.
1133
01:07:07,023 --> 01:07:12,028
And just, humming
almost to himself.
1134
01:07:12,028 --> 01:07:16,115
When he lost the strength to
hold on anymore to the boat
1135
01:07:16,115 --> 01:07:19,618
I needed to get him up in my arm
1136
01:07:19,618 --> 01:07:20,995
to keep his head
out of the water.
1137
01:07:20,995 --> 01:07:25,791
I just couldn't hold
him and hold the paddle.
1138
01:07:25,791 --> 01:07:29,045
And I lost my
paddle at that point.
1139
01:07:34,341 --> 01:07:36,510
Doug and I floated like
that for about an hour,
1140
01:07:36,510 --> 01:07:39,263
an hour and a half.
1141
01:07:39,764 --> 01:07:44,435
And then I heard a
helicopter coming.
1142
01:07:44,769 --> 01:07:47,313
They pulled us floating
in the water to shore,
1143
01:07:47,313 --> 01:07:50,691
and they went from
there to the hospital.
1144
01:07:51,859 --> 01:07:55,613
KRIS: Broken messages
coming in slowly.
1145
01:07:55,613 --> 01:07:59,909
Finally it is Doug,
Rick, helicopter.
1146
01:08:00,910 --> 01:08:03,370
I know you're in
serious trouble.
1147
01:08:03,370 --> 01:08:06,415
Instinctively, I know,
without knowing.
1148
01:08:06,415 --> 01:08:09,126
Outside pleading
with the gods.
1149
01:08:09,126 --> 01:08:13,672
Please, please, please,
please bring him back to me.
1150
01:08:15,674 --> 01:08:19,720
RICK: And they took us to the
lodge where the phone rang and
1151
01:08:19,720 --> 01:08:23,224
the lodge owner answered.
1152
01:08:24,391 --> 01:08:28,938
In a short minute later,
1153
01:08:28,938 --> 01:08:31,774
hung up and looked
at us and said,
1154
01:08:31,774 --> 01:08:34,151
"Now Doug is really dead."
1155
01:08:46,956 --> 01:08:48,666
KRIS: Rushed into the
room where I now know
1156
01:08:48,666 --> 01:08:51,210
they worked on you for hours.
1157
01:08:51,210 --> 01:08:53,671
Cold body, soft.
1158
01:08:53,671 --> 01:08:56,924
I crawl up onto your
bed and lay next to you.
1159
01:08:56,924 --> 01:09:00,094
I only wanted the two of us
to be cocooned together and
1160
01:09:00,094 --> 01:09:05,141
let everything and
everyone else just slip away.
1161
01:09:06,142 --> 01:09:09,228
RICK: And I just
stared into my soup.
1162
01:09:10,187 --> 01:09:15,025
And I remember Yvon staring
into his soup,
1163
01:09:15,025 --> 01:09:17,945
and then he picked up a spoon
1164
01:09:17,945 --> 01:09:22,950
and started eating
it very slowly.
1165
01:09:24,910 --> 01:09:27,037
And then he looked over
at me and he said,
1166
01:09:27,037 --> 01:09:31,834
"Eat your soup.
It's really good."
1167
01:09:32,376 --> 01:09:36,839
And I made sure that I
1168
01:09:36,839 --> 01:09:40,134
respected every
spoonful of warm soup
1169
01:09:40,134 --> 01:09:43,137
going down my throat.
1170
01:09:53,022 --> 01:09:56,233
KRIS: And then we
flew him the next day.
1171
01:09:56,233 --> 01:10:00,654
And I was in the back with the
coffin and I had a knife in my
1172
01:10:00,654 --> 01:10:04,992
bag and I started
carving our names.
1173
01:10:05,618 --> 01:10:09,914
I didn't notice but as I'm
carving these big letters and
1174
01:10:09,914 --> 01:10:14,043
I'm just carving
as hard as I can,
1175
01:10:14,043 --> 01:10:15,920
I'm cutting myself.
1176
01:10:15,920 --> 01:10:18,714
There's blood on the box.
1177
01:10:18,714 --> 01:10:21,717
There's blood on me.
1178
01:10:21,717 --> 01:10:26,388
And I was out of my seatbelt.
1179
01:10:26,847 --> 01:10:31,393
I just was so intent on getting
Birdy and Lolo into that box.
1180
01:10:34,188 --> 01:10:36,982
So finally, Rick, who's
sitting way up by the pilot,
1181
01:10:36,982 --> 01:10:38,525
comes back there, said,
1182
01:10:38,525 --> 01:10:40,986
"You sit down,
you get in your seat,
1183
01:10:40,986 --> 01:10:44,531
you put your seatbelt on,
and give me that knife.
1184
01:10:44,531 --> 01:10:46,116
You are done.
1185
01:10:46,116 --> 01:10:49,620
Is this what you want
people to see when we land?"
1186
01:10:53,457 --> 01:10:56,835
YVON: She was off the
deep end, you know,
1187
01:10:56,835 --> 01:10:59,672
to the point where she
didn't want to live.
1188
01:10:59,672 --> 01:11:02,591
She didn't want to go
through life without him.
1189
01:11:10,057 --> 01:11:12,309
KRIS: Doug died
three days ago
1190
01:11:14,270 --> 01:11:16,647
on a trip with his
best friends.
1191
01:11:17,690 --> 01:11:22,444
With Yvon Chouinard,
his lifelong friend
1192
01:11:24,196 --> 01:11:28,534
with Rick Ridgeway,
who also almost died
1193
01:11:30,035 --> 01:11:32,496
and with Weston Boyles,
1194
01:11:33,122 --> 01:11:36,959
the group's "little boy",
1195
01:11:36,959 --> 01:11:42,840
who stayed with him
until the very end.
1196
01:11:42,840 --> 01:11:45,676
He never left him alone.
1197
01:11:45,676 --> 01:11:51,307
And for that I will
be eternally grateful.
1198
01:11:52,224 --> 01:11:58,439
This person, Douglas,
lived a life worth centuries.
1199
01:11:59,315 --> 01:12:04,862
I can't picture a life
without him, but here we are.
1200
01:12:09,616 --> 01:12:12,453
KRIS: Thank you for coming.
1201
01:12:13,245 --> 01:12:20,002
(applause)
1202
01:12:26,216 --> 01:12:28,260
♪ ♪
1203
01:12:28,260 --> 01:12:32,765
RICK: We lowered Doug's
casket into the grave.
1204
01:12:32,765 --> 01:12:35,642
And then all the people who
had come, all the citizens
1205
01:12:35,642 --> 01:12:38,937
from surrounding towns,
hundreds of people,
1206
01:12:38,937 --> 01:12:42,483
we all started tossing dirt on
his casket with our hands.
1207
01:13:01,919 --> 01:13:07,841
KRIS: It took me a long time
to decide not to go with him.
1208
01:13:09,760 --> 01:13:11,595
This is a good place to come.
1209
01:13:11,595 --> 01:13:17,559
I was so crazy for
so long after he died.
1210
01:13:21,355 --> 01:13:25,609
Everyday.
1211
01:13:26,527 --> 01:13:29,988
May 17, when you left Esprit,
1212
01:13:29,988 --> 01:13:33,117
you went on a grand search
for what could be next,
1213
01:13:33,117 --> 01:13:36,495
the grand gesture to
live a new life.
1214
01:13:36,495 --> 01:13:40,416
And now I'm sitting on
that same precipice.
1215
01:13:40,416 --> 01:13:43,961
Somehow there has
to be a new story.
1216
01:13:43,961 --> 01:13:46,713
Perhaps this is
the point, Birdy.
1217
01:13:46,713 --> 01:13:49,716
It's time to write it all down.
1218
01:13:59,059 --> 01:14:04,731
Even though I feel still
that it was an amputation,
1219
01:14:04,731 --> 01:14:08,986
not just a loss.
1220
01:14:08,986 --> 01:14:14,283
I feel this big, audacious
vision of Doug's
1221
01:14:14,283 --> 01:14:18,787
was the thing that probably
kept me in one piece.
1222
01:14:20,122 --> 01:14:23,876
That was like a
life raft for me.
1223
01:14:23,876 --> 01:14:25,878
We never stopped.
1224
01:14:25,878 --> 01:14:28,922
I managed everything.
1225
01:14:29,590 --> 01:14:33,552
YVON: All these things that she
knew that were unsustainable,
1226
01:14:33,552 --> 01:14:35,429
she stopped all that.
1227
01:14:35,429 --> 01:14:39,766
And she pulled
herself up and took over.
1228
01:14:42,102 --> 01:14:44,354
KRIS: All the farms are gone.
1229
01:14:44,354 --> 01:14:48,650
We had 13 farms at one point.
1230
01:14:48,650 --> 01:14:51,403
We couldn't make
them self-sustaining.
1231
01:14:51,403 --> 01:14:55,073
It was just too expensive.
1232
01:14:55,073 --> 01:14:58,911
I couldn't help but feel
that I was failing Doug.
1233
01:14:59,745 --> 01:15:03,040
It wasn't an option
to keep them going,
1234
01:15:05,209 --> 01:15:08,504
but it was tough to let them go.
1235
01:15:10,339 --> 01:15:15,010
It became so black
and white to me.
1236
01:15:15,010 --> 01:15:16,845
There was no question.
1237
01:15:16,845 --> 01:15:19,890
It was binary, my
whole life became binary.
1238
01:15:19,890 --> 01:15:22,017
I want to die,
I'm going to live.
1239
01:15:22,017 --> 01:15:24,561
We're going to do this,
we're not going to do that.
1240
01:15:24,561 --> 01:15:27,022
Doug wanted to do this,
we're not doing it.
1241
01:15:27,022 --> 01:15:28,607
Close it down.
1242
01:15:28,607 --> 01:15:30,275
Pumalín, you're done.
1243
01:15:30,275 --> 01:15:32,236
Colchagua you're almost done.
1244
01:15:32,236 --> 01:15:34,571
Ibera, we're going to do this.
1245
01:15:34,571 --> 01:15:38,825
We're going to go twice
the speed, twice the scope.
1246
01:15:38,825 --> 01:15:40,702
Just go.
1247
01:15:40,702 --> 01:15:42,037
We have nothing to lose.
1248
01:15:42,037 --> 01:15:45,749
That was my mantra:
I have nothing to lose.
1249
01:15:45,749 --> 01:15:48,835
The worst thing that
could happen to me happened.
1250
01:15:52,089 --> 01:15:54,967
RICK: She was into a complete
new phase in her life.
1251
01:15:54,967 --> 01:15:57,219
And little by little,
1252
01:15:57,219 --> 01:16:01,515
Kris not only found that
reason to keep going,
1253
01:16:01,515 --> 01:16:06,186
but she became more and
more fierce and bold.
1254
01:16:10,691 --> 01:16:14,444
KRIS: I always felt
like a pebble in a stream.
1255
01:16:15,362 --> 01:16:18,699
Not anymore.
1256
01:16:18,699 --> 01:16:21,285
I know exactly
what I want to do.
1257
01:16:21,285 --> 01:16:24,788
I'm really living
with a lot of intention.
1258
01:16:27,791 --> 01:16:31,420
KRIS: So the new park would be
1259
01:16:33,839 --> 01:16:35,632
KRIS: 2.3 million.
1260
01:16:35,924 --> 01:16:37,509
KRIS: 2.3 million acres.
1261
01:16:38,552 --> 01:16:40,846
WOMAN: It's another
Pumalín or Corcovado.
1262
01:16:41,680 --> 01:16:44,725
KRIS: 20 million acres.
1263
01:16:45,892 --> 01:16:48,312
KRIS: Now we're talking!
1264
01:16:48,770 --> 01:16:53,358
RICK: She's inevitably had to
ask herself, "what's next?"
1265
01:16:53,358 --> 01:16:58,405
I think that the most energizing
opportunity is rewilding.
1266
01:16:58,739 --> 01:17:00,407
CRISTIÁN: So these are
1267
01:17:01,116 --> 01:17:04,119
two of the first group
that was released,
1268
01:17:04,494 --> 01:17:07,956
but they interact with the
others that are wild.
1269
01:17:08,373 --> 01:17:12,210
So they are doing much better
outside than in the pens.
1270
01:17:13,503 --> 01:17:16,923
KRIS: There was so much more to
do than just protect the land.
1271
01:17:16,923 --> 01:17:21,845
You can't call any of these
places restored or healthy
1272
01:17:21,845 --> 01:17:25,182
until everybody's back.
1273
01:17:28,685 --> 01:17:31,772
RICK: Kris helped with the
reintroductions of over a
1274
01:17:31,772 --> 01:17:33,899
dozen species at this point,
1275
01:17:33,899 --> 01:17:36,443
ultimately including the Jaguar,
1276
01:17:36,443 --> 01:17:39,863
which nobody's ever done before.
1277
01:17:41,573 --> 01:17:44,159
KRIS: It was Doug's idea
to do whatever we could
1278
01:17:44,159 --> 01:17:46,995
to bring Jaguars back.
1279
01:17:46,995 --> 01:17:50,582
The Jaguar is emblematic.
1280
01:17:50,582 --> 01:17:53,085
It's at the top of
the food chain there.
1281
01:17:53,085 --> 01:17:55,295
It was one of his dreams.
1282
01:17:55,295 --> 01:17:58,507
So we have nine to release.
1283
01:17:58,507 --> 01:18:02,761
And that's assuming
that both the cubs,
1284
01:18:02,761 --> 01:18:04,805
who are now both females...
1285
01:18:04,805 --> 01:18:06,515
WOMAN: Yes.
1286
01:18:06,515 --> 01:18:09,393
KRIS: Have two cubs, maybe.
1287
01:18:09,393 --> 01:18:10,852
Maybe one.
1288
01:18:11,645 --> 01:18:12,896
KRIS: Incredible!
1289
01:18:13,146 --> 01:18:18,068
Every time I think
about this I almost cry.
1290
01:18:19,444 --> 01:18:21,655
KRIS: Really and truly.
1291
01:18:31,039 --> 01:18:35,877
Maybe national parks
are like petri dishes.
1292
01:18:35,877 --> 01:18:40,507
And when everything
goes to hell,
1293
01:18:40,507 --> 01:18:43,885
national parks being
protected areas
1294
01:18:43,885 --> 01:18:46,388
might be a petri dish
in which evolution could
1295
01:18:46,388 --> 01:18:48,682
kind of restart itself.
1296
01:18:49,349 --> 01:18:52,310
Who knows?
1297
01:18:52,853 --> 01:18:59,526
♪ ♪
1298
01:19:03,572 --> 01:19:07,659
RICK: Helping to protect
biodiversity, as Kris is doing,
1299
01:19:07,659 --> 01:19:12,122
actually has a direct
link to climate change,
1300
01:19:12,122 --> 01:19:18,253
and through that link to the
survivability of our species
1301
01:19:18,253 --> 01:19:20,797
on this planet.
1302
01:19:21,089 --> 01:19:23,925
KRIS: March 2nd, 2017.
1303
01:19:23,925 --> 01:19:27,471
The government sent up
a smoke signal today.
1304
01:19:27,471 --> 01:19:31,057
We will sign the
agreement here on March 15.
1305
01:19:33,351 --> 01:19:37,063
At first, enormous relief,
and then momentary happiness
1306
01:19:37,063 --> 01:19:40,942
that gave way to my
unending admiration for you.
1307
01:19:41,443 --> 01:19:45,071
I asked myself how I can
come this far without you.
1308
01:19:45,071 --> 01:19:49,326
But then I remembered
you've been here all along.
1309
01:19:53,205 --> 01:19:54,581
ANDRES: You know,
when you devote
1310
01:19:54,581 --> 01:19:57,584
not only a lot of your wealth,
but a lot of your life,
1311
01:19:57,584 --> 01:20:00,879
and then you choose to
be buried in that place,
1312
01:20:00,879 --> 01:20:03,423
you know, it made it impossible
1313
01:20:03,423 --> 01:20:06,218
for someone to say,
oh, he's just visiting.
1314
01:20:06,218 --> 01:20:10,222
RICK: There was this
outpouring of grief
1315
01:20:10,222 --> 01:20:14,100
for a widow across
the entire country.
1316
01:20:15,060 --> 01:20:20,190
It galvanized everybody and
any opposition to what they
1317
01:20:20,190 --> 01:20:23,109
were trying to do
seemed to vaporize.
1318
01:20:24,653 --> 01:20:28,949
KRIS: Historic.
It's historic.
1319
01:20:29,324 --> 01:20:34,538
Seriously, no one has
ever done this before.
1320
01:20:34,871 --> 01:20:37,457
MICHELLE: When I was the
president, we met with Kristine
1321
01:20:37,457 --> 01:20:41,670
and we decided that this could
be an interesting thing
1322
01:20:41,670 --> 01:20:44,005
that two women could
continue pushing what
1323
01:20:44,005 --> 01:20:48,176
Doug had as a real
important dream.
1324
01:20:49,886 --> 01:20:53,932
KRIS: The truth is we needed
to finish up these parks.
1325
01:20:53,932 --> 01:20:59,521
You have to remember that we
were carrying untold overhead.
1326
01:20:59,521 --> 01:21:01,690
In the last year or so,
1327
01:21:01,690 --> 01:21:06,444
we'd been spending
up to $6 million a year
1328
01:21:06,444 --> 01:21:10,991
so not donating them would be
economic disaster eventually.
1329
01:21:13,785 --> 01:21:15,954
Ay yay yay!
1330
01:21:15,954 --> 01:21:19,749
Egan! Hola.
1331
01:21:20,834 --> 01:21:23,628
EGAN: All of our best carpenters
are putting up the sign!
1332
01:21:23,628 --> 01:21:25,797
KRIS: I can't believe this!
1333
01:21:26,339 --> 01:21:30,552
KRIS: It was so audacious
and so unlikely that
1334
01:21:30,552 --> 01:21:34,097
you could pull that off.
1335
01:21:34,097 --> 01:21:37,142
All five new national
parks at once and
1336
01:21:37,142 --> 01:21:39,686
the enlargement
of three others.
1337
01:21:39,686 --> 01:21:42,606
But I just felt like
it's now or never.
1338
01:21:42,606 --> 01:21:44,858
This is the moment.
1339
01:21:44,858 --> 01:21:46,026
WOMAN: Say, Pumalín!
1340
01:21:46,026 --> 01:21:48,194
GROUP: Pumalín!
1341
01:21:48,194 --> 01:21:50,280
KRIS: This is a
hell of a team.
1342
01:21:50,280 --> 01:21:54,034
And there are hundreds
of people involved.
1343
01:21:54,034 --> 01:21:56,620
We want the government
to keep them on,
1344
01:21:56,620 --> 01:22:00,081
but who knows what will happen?
1345
01:22:00,540 --> 01:22:01,875
Some of them we'll see again.
1346
01:22:01,875 --> 01:22:04,002
Some of them we won't.
1347
01:22:04,753 --> 01:22:09,799
But it's a lot of people coming
to the end of something.
1348
01:22:12,510 --> 01:22:14,346
KRIS: We've been a family
1349
01:22:15,013 --> 01:22:17,474
for 25 years.
1350
01:22:18,975 --> 01:22:24,856
And we honor and
love each other.
1351
01:22:27,776 --> 01:22:34,574
On behalf of the team,
1352
01:22:37,327 --> 01:22:42,749
we toast to Douglas
and Pablo Carrasco."
1353
01:22:43,667 --> 01:22:48,838
(applause)
1354
01:22:48,838 --> 01:22:52,342
(cheering)
1355
01:23:00,183 --> 01:23:03,228
KRIS: The weekend before
the president arrived
1356
01:23:03,228 --> 01:23:04,896
for the ceremony,
1357
01:23:04,896 --> 01:23:10,610
I read something and
I saw immediately
1358
01:23:10,610 --> 01:23:13,530
two words that were conditional.
1359
01:23:13,530 --> 01:23:18,368
We 'could', we 'would',
not we 'are'.
1360
01:23:18,368 --> 01:23:21,538
That told me that one of the
parks and the biggest one,
1361
01:23:21,538 --> 01:23:25,083
in this collection of eight,
wasn't completely clear
1362
01:23:25,083 --> 01:23:27,127
if it was a go.
1363
01:23:27,127 --> 01:23:30,213
And for me, it
was all or nothing.
1364
01:23:30,213 --> 01:23:34,092
We do them all
or we do nothing.
1365
01:23:36,803 --> 01:23:41,725
So it's a huge risk if
it doesn't go through.
1366
01:23:47,522 --> 01:23:49,315
MICHELLE: After all, what
happened to them for all of
1367
01:23:49,315 --> 01:23:52,318
those years, trying to
convince different governments
1368
01:23:52,318 --> 01:23:57,073
to do something like this and
never being able to go forward,
1369
01:23:57,073 --> 01:23:59,659
then I guess of course,
she had to have doubts.
1370
01:24:00,326 --> 01:24:03,329
She thought
anything can change.
1371
01:24:06,791 --> 01:24:12,047
KRIS: Right up to the hour
before the ceremony,
1372
01:24:13,214 --> 01:24:16,634
I had no idea whether
it was going to go or not.
1373
01:24:17,052 --> 01:24:20,263
That's it. Let's roll.
1374
01:24:25,977 --> 01:24:28,605
When she arrived,
I was really stone faced.
1375
01:24:28,605 --> 01:24:30,273
We meet again.
1376
01:24:30,273 --> 01:24:33,943
And she wanted to
meet at Doug's grave
1377
01:24:33,943 --> 01:24:37,197
in the little cemetery there.
1378
01:24:37,822 --> 01:24:42,535
She was acknowledging Doug's
grave and talking about Doug.
1379
01:24:42,535 --> 01:24:46,039
And I just thought,
I'm about to pull the plug
1380
01:24:46,039 --> 01:24:48,958
on all of this work.
1381
01:24:50,543 --> 01:24:54,005
I had two speeches.
1382
01:24:54,005 --> 01:24:56,966
One: wrath and brimstone,
1383
01:24:56,966 --> 01:24:59,719
if somehow something
had gone awry.
1384
01:24:59,719 --> 01:25:02,806
And another one that
was congratulatory.
1385
01:25:02,806 --> 01:25:06,101
(speaking Spanish)
1386
01:25:06,643 --> 01:25:09,729
And then someone came around
next to me and she said,
1387
01:25:09,729 --> 01:25:12,398
"It's in there.
It's okay."
1388
01:25:12,398 --> 01:25:14,442
So I turned around to the
president and said,
1389
01:25:14,442 --> 01:25:17,237
"God, what a historic day."
1390
01:25:17,237 --> 01:25:19,322
(laughs).
1391
01:25:19,322 --> 01:25:26,121
(singing in Spanish)
1392
01:25:32,377 --> 01:25:38,842
♪ ♪
1393
01:25:39,259 --> 01:25:43,680
KRIS: I have a map of a
place that only the gods
1394
01:25:43,680 --> 01:25:45,473
could have imagined.
1395
01:25:46,266 --> 01:25:49,185
What for Doug was
a dream in 1992,
1396
01:25:49,602 --> 01:25:53,189
will become Pumalín
National Park.
1397
01:25:54,357 --> 01:25:57,485
These parks belong to you.
1398
01:25:58,903 --> 01:26:01,906
Protect them with
all your heart.
1399
01:26:03,074 --> 01:26:04,993
Choose life.
1400
01:26:05,285 --> 01:26:06,828
Choose beauty.
1401
01:26:09,455 --> 01:26:12,417
KRIS: Lolo, we made it!
1402
01:26:12,417 --> 01:26:19,048
(applause)
1403
01:26:22,302 --> 01:26:24,012
(cheering)
1404
01:26:24,012 --> 01:26:30,351
(applause)
1405
01:26:33,813 --> 01:26:36,816
Oh my god, you guys.
1406
01:26:38,610 --> 01:26:40,695
YVON: Here was
somebody I kind of mentored,
1407
01:26:40,695 --> 01:26:42,864
and a good friend.
1408
01:26:42,864 --> 01:26:45,408
And now standing here with
the president of Chile
1409
01:26:45,408 --> 01:26:50,038
signing these papers to
create these parks and geez
1410
01:26:50,038 --> 01:26:52,540
(laughs)..
1411
01:26:52,540 --> 01:26:53,750
Yeah.
1412
01:26:53,750 --> 01:26:58,046
I had tears coming down, it
was a pretty proud moment.
1413
01:27:00,465 --> 01:27:02,592
KRIS: It's the
biggest in the world.
1414
01:27:02,592 --> 01:27:04,719
You should be so proud.
1415
01:27:04,719 --> 01:27:06,429
WESTON: They created the
largest land donation in the
1416
01:27:06,429 --> 01:27:09,307
history of mankind.
1417
01:27:10,350 --> 01:27:13,269
Doug was setting
the bar really high,
1418
01:27:13,269 --> 01:27:14,646
but he would be
proud if somebody
1419
01:27:14,646 --> 01:27:16,731
tried to out-do him.
1420
01:27:16,731 --> 01:27:20,235
Bigger parks,
more conservation.
1421
01:27:26,032 --> 01:27:28,660
KRIS: Oh, my God.
1422
01:27:28,660 --> 01:27:29,869
Look at him.
1423
01:27:29,869 --> 01:27:32,872
Look look look look.
1424
01:27:32,872 --> 01:27:36,376
It's a condor.
1425
01:27:40,713 --> 01:27:44,550
RICK: Look at this
incredible wildness
1426
01:27:44,550 --> 01:27:48,638
that she and Doug protected.
1427
01:27:51,307 --> 01:27:53,977
As far as you can see.
1428
01:28:01,567 --> 01:28:07,156
♪ ♪
1429
01:28:07,657 --> 01:28:10,034
YVON: It's changed the whole
attitude about conservation
1430
01:28:10,034 --> 01:28:11,619
in Latin America.
1431
01:28:11,619 --> 01:28:15,206
People want to
establish these parks now.
1432
01:28:16,374 --> 01:28:19,961
So now I'm involved in
starting a new park down
1433
01:28:19,961 --> 01:28:23,131
in the tip of Tierra del Fuego.
1434
01:28:23,131 --> 01:28:25,800
750,000 acres.
1435
01:28:25,800 --> 01:28:27,593
I came up with this
idea and I gave it to
1436
01:28:27,593 --> 01:28:29,387
Kris's organization.
1437
01:28:29,387 --> 01:28:32,974
We're calling it
End of the World Park.
1438
01:28:32,974 --> 01:28:35,435
I mean, you know, here,
Doug was ragging on me that
1439
01:28:35,435 --> 01:28:37,478
I should be doing the
same thing he was doing.
1440
01:28:37,478 --> 01:28:40,398
So now I'm starting to do it.
1441
01:28:40,732 --> 01:28:44,944
KRIS: I was always the
sweet one to the two of you.
1442
01:28:44,944 --> 01:28:47,905
I was easier to accommodate
and tougher to turn down.
1443
01:28:47,905 --> 01:28:50,533
(laughs).
1444
01:28:50,533 --> 01:28:55,913
But, god, what a life.
1445
01:28:55,913 --> 01:28:59,208
YVON: Yeah, yeah.
1446
01:28:59,959 --> 01:29:01,919
KRIS: What a life.
1447
01:29:02,920 --> 01:29:09,052
♪ ♪
1448
01:29:18,936 --> 01:29:25,777
♪ ♪
1449
01:29:37,622 --> 01:29:44,170
♪ ♪
1450
01:29:53,638 --> 01:29:57,225
(music plays through credits)
1451
01:30:15,868 --> 01:30:17,954
♪ What would you do ♪
1452
01:30:17,954 --> 01:30:21,457
♪ If it all came back to you ♪
1453
01:30:26,003 --> 01:30:29,173
♪ Each crest of each wave ♪
1454
01:30:29,173 --> 01:30:32,427
♪ Bright as lightning ♪
1455
01:30:37,223 --> 01:30:39,225
♪ What would you say ♪
1456
01:30:39,225 --> 01:30:43,396
♪ If you had to leave today? ♪
1457
01:30:47,358 --> 01:30:49,944
♪ Leave everything behind ♪
1458
01:30:49,944 --> 01:30:53,656
♪ Even though for once,you're shining ♪
1459
01:30:58,161 --> 01:31:01,622
♪ Standing on higher ground ♪
1460
01:31:01,622 --> 01:31:03,416
♪ When you hear the sounds ♪
1461
01:31:03,416 --> 01:31:06,544
♪ You realize itsjust the wind ♪
1462
01:31:08,713 --> 01:31:11,674
♪ And you notice it matters ♪
1463
01:31:11,674 --> 01:31:15,261
♪ Who and what you letunder your skin ♪
1464
01:31:19,265 --> 01:31:21,934
♪ If put to the test ♪
1465
01:31:21,934 --> 01:31:25,229
♪ Would you step backfrom the line of fire? ♪
1466
01:31:30,193 --> 01:31:32,653
♪ Hold everything back ♪
1467
01:31:32,653 --> 01:31:36,699
♪ All emotions and desires ♪
1468
01:31:41,287 --> 01:31:43,664
♪ Convince yourself ♪
1469
01:31:43,664 --> 01:31:45,958
♪ To be someone else ♪
1470
01:31:45,958 --> 01:31:48,669
♪ Hide from the world ♪
1471
01:31:48,669 --> 01:31:51,297
♪ Your lack of confidence ♪
1472
01:31:51,714 --> 01:31:54,675
♪ What you chooseto believe in ♪
1473
01:31:54,675 --> 01:31:57,178
♪ Takes you as you fall ♪
1474
01:32:00,181 --> 01:32:02,850
♪ Takes you as you fall ♪
1475
01:32:03,100 --> 01:32:05,394
♪ No one else around you ♪
1476
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♪ No one to understand you ♪
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♪ No one to hear your calls ♪
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♪ Look through allyour dark corners ♪
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♪ You're backed upagainst the wall ♪
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♪ Step back fromthe line of fire ♪
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♪ ♪
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