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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:05,280 When a serious crime is committed and the police need all the help 2 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:06,920 they can get, there's one group 3 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:12,880 of people they turn to time after time, the expert witnesses... 4 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:16,240 Knowing when someone's done something is one thing, but proving 5 00:00:16,240 --> 00:00:18,120 it's completely different. 6 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:21,000 We need that last piece of the jigsaw. 7 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:25,360 ..an extraordinary army of men and women with the expertise 8 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:29,800 to reveal the hidden clues criminals have left behind. 9 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:33,600 It might be a fingerprint, footwear mark, cell site analysis, 10 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:37,320 that can come up with that golden ticket to put that investigation 11 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:38,800 on a different path. 12 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:42,520 Using the very latest techniques... 13 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:46,880 Several months or even years later, evidence can remain 14 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:49,440 and still be recovered. 15 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:53,760 ..this is the inside story of how science helped solve some 16 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:56,200 of the UK's most complex cases. 17 00:00:56,200 --> 00:01:00,000 The forensics in this case showed us what did happen, not 18 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:02,720 what could have happened, what did happen. 19 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:05,200 You've been in a scene, it's virtually impossible to clean 20 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:07,120 everything up. Something is going to be there. 21 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:10,320 If we're looking in the right place, we'll find it. 22 00:01:10,320 --> 00:01:13,480 Without the unseen heroes painstakingly going through forensic 23 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:16,360 bits, I might not have got justice for my daughter. 24 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:21,760 This is the story of the expert witness. 25 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:34,320 In this programme, an expert witness examines a muddy crime scene 26 00:01:34,320 --> 00:01:37,160 to determine how a body got there. 27 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:41,320 He was standing up, straight up, and he was just bent at the waist. 28 00:01:41,320 --> 00:01:44,000 That in itself is interesting. 29 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:50,680 And when police investigate a number of complaints against a young man... 30 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:53,200 My gut instinct did say that there was something 31 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:54,960 up with him, something wrong. 32 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:59,960 But, unfortunately, I ignored my gut instinct and lived to regret that. 33 00:01:59,960 --> 00:02:04,200 ..a virologist is brought in to reveal if the suspect was guilty. 34 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:07,120 Where you have a transmission, you can see a resemblance 35 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:09,920 between the strains infecting the two parties, 36 00:02:09,920 --> 00:02:12,560 and it was really that type of linkage that would substantiate 37 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:14,800 the allegations that were made. 38 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:21,720 Expert witnesses help investigations by seeing the clues the rest 39 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:23,280 of us can't. 40 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:26,360 When the body of an elderly farmer was found in a river, 41 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:29,360 it wasn't clear to detectives whether it was a case 42 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:31,760 of suicide or murder. 43 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:36,080 But a bio archaeologist was able to detect and decipher evidence left 44 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:37,920 at the crime scene. 45 00:02:39,920 --> 00:02:42,680 Forensic bio archaeology can help criminal investigation 46 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:45,440 by interpreting the crime scene. 47 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:49,120 Sometimes the environment can give as much evidence as the body 48 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:50,800 itself, sometimes more. 49 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:00,720 June 2018, Gosmore in Hertfordshire. 50 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:07,000 69-year-old farmer Bill Taylor is reported missing from his home 51 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:09,240 by his family. 52 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:11,800 Reporting on the case for the national newspapers 53 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:13,920 at the time was Thomas Hornell. 54 00:03:13,920 --> 00:03:17,400 Gosmore is a small hamlet and most of the farmland there was actually 55 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:21,320 owned by the Taylors. There was hundreds of acres. 56 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:25,640 Dozens of police ended up showing up and combing through every blade 57 00:03:25,640 --> 00:03:29,240 of grass on Bill's farmland, searching for him. 58 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:34,680 So this was a really big police presence for a normally sleepy town. 59 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:38,280 Due to the sheer scale and complexity of the search, 60 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:42,440 the Hertfordshire Police Major Crime Unit were called in to organise 61 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:43,920 the hunt for Bill. 62 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:46,640 This was certainly the largest search that I've ever been involved 63 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:48,200 in and coordinated. 64 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:51,680 While search teams combed the countryside, 65 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:55,120 Detective Chief Inspector Carl Foster turned to Bill's 66 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:56,520 family and friends. 67 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:59,920 They revealed his personal life was complicated... 68 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:04,880 ..estranged from his second wife, 69 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:07,920 Angela, and with his family at war. 70 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:11,000 Whilst Bill and Angela were separated, 71 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:13,040 they weren't yet divorced. 72 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:15,720 Angela wanted to get divorced. 73 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:18,160 Bill was effectively digging his heels in and saying, 74 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:20,600 "No, I don't want to do that." 75 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:23,360 Both Bill and Angela had children from previous marriages 76 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:25,520 and they had three children together. 77 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:28,920 And in particular, Bill's son from his first marriage did not get 78 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:31,160 on with Angela and her side of the family at all. 79 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:34,080 In fact, they completely loathed each other. 80 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:38,240 Bill was kind of stuck in the middle because Bill, obviously, loved both 81 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:39,560 sides of the family. 82 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:42,640 He had children and grandchildren in both sides of the family, 83 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:47,000 and he was stuck between a rock and a hard place. 84 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:50,600 Although police had no body with which to reveal a definitive 85 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:54,000 cause of death, they began to suspect foul play 86 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:56,280 from within the feuding family. 87 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:03,080 The police were suspicious of Angela because she didn't seem that moved 88 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:07,520 or distressed by Bill's disappearance, and detectives also 89 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:11,920 overheard her talking about him in the past tense. 90 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:16,360 However, detectives could not identify an obvious motive for why 91 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:19,160 Angela would have wanted her husband dead. 92 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:23,960 There was already a post-nuptial agreement in place between Bill 93 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:28,560 and Angela, where they'd already agreed on the allocation of property 94 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:31,240 and land worth anything from £150 million 95 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:33,280 to £200 million. 96 00:05:33,280 --> 00:05:37,600 The title deeds had already been moved over to Angela as part 97 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:41,600 of that agreement, so that effectively, for me, said, 98 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:44,120 Well, there can't be a financial motive here, then. 99 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:48,880 But one discovery left detectives convinced someone in Bill's circle 100 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:51,240 held a serious grudge against him. 101 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:56,040 One of the issues that concerned us is the fact that his vehicle 102 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:59,920 have been subject to an arson attack the week prior to him going missing. 103 00:05:59,920 --> 00:06:03,360 It had been attended by officers and a scene of crime officer. 104 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:06,760 The towel, the shirt and the fuel can that were found 105 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:09,000 in the Land Rover didn't belong to Bill. 106 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:12,320 We sent all of those off for forensic examination 107 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:16,200 to establish whether there was any forensic evidence 108 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:17,840 that would assist us. 109 00:06:17,840 --> 00:06:21,280 Detectives continued their investigations, this time 110 00:06:21,280 --> 00:06:24,960 into Angela's personal life, and identified someone 111 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:27,000 who raised their suspicions. 112 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:33,200 The police began to look at a man named Paul Cannon, who was a 113 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:35,680 digger driver who had done some work on Bill's farm 114 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:37,920 and was around a lot at Angela's place. 115 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:40,520 So they really began to look at those two, 116 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:42,680 suspecting a relationship. 117 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:46,840 Angela admitted she was having an affair with Paul Cannon, 118 00:06:46,840 --> 00:06:50,040 and when lab results returned from the items in the burnt-out 119 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:54,360 Land Rover, they showed traces of Cannon's DNA - 120 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:56,240 significant, but not 121 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:59,880 enough to prove he was responsible for Bill's disappearance. 122 00:06:59,880 --> 00:07:04,560 What the forensic evidence against Paul Cannon did was obviously 123 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:08,600 elevate our concerns around what was going on between him and Bill, 124 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:13,920 potentially Angela, and that whole family dynamic. 125 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:17,960 But on its own, does it explain what has then happened to Bill 126 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:20,440 a week later? No, it doesn't. 127 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:29,840 Nonetheless, Hertfordshire Police declared the case a murder inquiry. 128 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:33,640 Without a body, they didn't have enough evidence to charge either 129 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:39,320 Angela Taylor or Paul Cannon of any wrongdoing, but their investigation 130 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:40,960 was far from over. 131 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:44,200 We became aware that Paul Cannon had been employed at two quarry 132 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:49,360 sites, both within the county of Hertfordshire. 133 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:53,440 Whilst the two sites had been shut down, 134 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:57,520 if Bill has been murdered, could his body 135 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:01,640 have been secreted in either one of those quarries? 136 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:05,480 Any disused quarry is a hazardous environment. 137 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:07,360 These two were huge. 138 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:13,320 Concerned about the risk to police search teams. 139 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:18,760 Carl turned to bio archaeologist Jennifer Miller for advice. 140 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:22,320 I've a lot of experience with searching landfill for missing 141 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:26,080 persons and recovery of bodies buried within landfill, 142 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:28,720 so I was asked to advise what the logistics 143 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:32,600 would be for recovery of anything from this sort of environment. 144 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:38,280 We walked over the quarries, and they're both over an acre. 145 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:44,200 There's between 20 and 30m-high mounds of industrial waste. 146 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:47,680 And it's very, very unstable, very, very dangerous - 147 00:08:47,680 --> 00:08:49,280 potential for collapse. 148 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:53,880 And it would have taken months, if not years, to search it all. 149 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:57,800 And without substantiated evidence to say that he was in there, 150 00:08:57,800 --> 00:09:00,520 then it's not worth doing. 151 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:06,840 DCI Carl Foster took Jenny's advice and decided against excavating 152 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:08,480 the quarry. 153 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:14,960 Searching for more concrete evidence that Bill was murdered, 154 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:18,960 he examined mobile phones belonging to Paul Cannon and Angela Taylor. 155 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:25,960 They contained 28,000 text messages sent between the pair in the four 156 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:28,480 months before Bill's disappearance. 157 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:32,680 The contents were shocking. 158 00:09:32,680 --> 00:09:36,120 So this is just a small extract from the thousands of messages 159 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:39,160 between Paul Cannon and Angela Taylor. 160 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:40,360 It starts with Paul Cannon, 161 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:42,560 "Got to get him out of the picture very soon, darling." 162 00:09:42,560 --> 00:09:45,720 And she replies, "I don't know how to sort it. Someone else, maybe." 163 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:47,400 And Paul Cannon replies to the effect, 164 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:49,720 "I only know one man for that, and I haven't spoken to him 165 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:51,680 "in a long time, but I'll try." 166 00:09:51,680 --> 00:09:54,280 The following day, the 17th of February, 167 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:56,800 "You phone that bloke, can't keep going on like this." 168 00:09:56,800 --> 00:10:00,200 And Cannon replies, "I'm good, darling. Just spoke to man. 169 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:02,120 "Going to be about 20." 170 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:05,640 To which she replies, "I'll go halves with you." 171 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:08,680 Messages closer to the time of Bill's disappearance 172 00:10:08,680 --> 00:10:11,400 were even more chilling. 173 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:14,800 26th of May was the night Bill's Land Rover was subject 174 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:16,120 to the arson attack. 175 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:19,360 And you've got a conversation here where Paul says, "Have to go 176 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:21,600 "to Dog Kennel, get something." 177 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:27,160 And Dog Kennel is the name of one of the farms that Angela owned. 178 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:29,680 Angela replies, "What you got to get?" 179 00:10:29,680 --> 00:10:33,480 And then Paul Cannon replies, "Darling, you light my fire." 180 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:37,920 But both Paul Cannon and Angela Taylor refused to make any comments 181 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:40,640 on the significance of these text messages. 182 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:46,040 No comment. 183 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:48,520 Cos neither of you have said it to each other ever before. 184 00:10:53,680 --> 00:10:55,840 No comment. 185 00:10:55,840 --> 00:11:00,160 Bill was last seen alive around 9.30, by his grandson. 186 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:04,400 And then, some two hours later, Paul Cannon sends a message 187 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:07,680 to Angela Taylor saying, "Just watching Kill Bill 2, 188 00:11:07,680 --> 00:11:12,280 "laugh out loud," which is pretty sinister when you know 189 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:15,440 the timeline and the sequence of events 190 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:19,000 and then you read that message. 191 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:20,960 The message is also contained 192 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:25,000 violent sexual fantasies centred around punishing Bill. 193 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:30,560 But, tellingly, they all stopped the day Bill disappeared. 194 00:11:50,680 --> 00:11:55,160 The recovery of these messages was a huge leap forward 195 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:56,640 in the investigation. 196 00:11:56,640 --> 00:12:01,000 I would describe those messages as a black-and-white transcript 197 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:03,320 of a conspiracy to murder Bill. 198 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:07,840 Angela Taylor and Paul Cannon were both charged with murder. 199 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:10,640 But Bill's body was yet to be found. 200 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:14,160 The case against the pair was far from watertight. 201 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:17,720 We were preparing for a no-body trial. 202 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:20,120 The defence would exploit that and suggest that he's 203 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:21,640 potentially taken himself off. 204 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:24,440 He might have a girlfriend somewhere. He's done, he's had 205 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:26,800 enough, and he's walked out of his life. 206 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:31,600 Then, in February 2019, eight months after Bill Taylor disappeared, 207 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:35,920 a chance discovery gave detectives a massive breakthrough. 208 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:40,840 Bill's remains were found by a fisherman who wanted to get 209 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:44,440 the perfect spot, so he'd actually gone onto private land owned 210 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:49,480 by Angela and discovered the remains of Bill Taylor by the river bank. 211 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:54,880 The body offered detectives an entirely new set of clues, 212 00:12:54,880 --> 00:13:00,000 which could reveal for the first time how Bill Taylor died. 213 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:04,720 We knew we were going to need to demonstrate that Bill hadn't gone 214 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:07,440 there to take his own life, and he hadn't gone there 215 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:12,600 and been victim of some form of medical episode or accident. 216 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:16,760 DCI Carl Foster needed a thorough forensic analysis of the body 217 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:20,280 and the river bank where it was found. 218 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:24,560 So he turned again to expert witness Jennifer Miller. 219 00:13:24,560 --> 00:13:28,320 My remit was primarily to recover the body and interpret events 220 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:29,840 at the scene, 221 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:33,640 so how the body had got into the river, as best as possible. 222 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:38,320 The mud was just short of a metre-deep. 223 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:42,600 All you could see was a head just at the banking, and the back, 224 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:45,800 which was covered in algae and there was nothing else visible. 225 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:48,040 So it was face-down in the mud. 226 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:56,040 The first thing to do is try to understand how the body is lying, 227 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:59,640 so the disposition of the remains, as it's called. 228 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:04,480 And we were able to identify quite quickly that although he was lying 229 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:08,520 face-down, he was actually standing up and he was just bent 230 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:11,560 at the waist, so that in itself is interesting. 231 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:15,000 It's an unusual way to be in. 232 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:21,360 This unusual position made Jennifer doubt that Bill had become stuck 233 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:23,320 in the deep mud on his own. 234 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:29,200 The positioning of the body was such that both feet were facing the bank. 235 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:34,680 It would be very difficult to walk in backwards through that thick mud 236 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:37,640 without losing your balance and falling backwards 237 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:40,800 rather than forwards, and perhaps that's the key point. 238 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:44,160 As you lift your leg to go forwards, you're more likely to overbalance 239 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:45,960 backwards than you are forwards. 240 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:51,600 It's more suggestive of being laid there, being put over somebody's 241 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:55,680 shoulder and with the feet facing forwards and deposited. 242 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:01,920 What's more, Jennifer concluded Bill may well have already been dead 243 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:04,800 by the time he was placed in the river. 244 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:10,440 I think it's unlikely that he was put in there alive and effectively 245 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:12,480 kicking because he didn't kick, 246 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:14,960 the feet were together, the knees were together, 247 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:17,880 his thighs were together, he was bolt upright. 248 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:23,400 And it's very unlikely, in my opinion, that he was conscious 249 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:25,960 when this happened. 250 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:29,400 Under Jennifer's supervision, Bill's body was carefully recovered 251 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:33,920 from the mud and sent for postmortem. That revealed injuries 252 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:36,960 to his neck consistent with strangulation. 253 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:42,680 The case against Angela Taylor and Paul Cannon was now as strong 254 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:44,520 as it could be. 255 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:49,800 Their trial began in September 2019, and Jennifer's evidence was crucial. 256 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:55,360 At the trial, the defence were quite robust in their questioning. 257 00:15:55,360 --> 00:16:01,120 They insisted that he had potentially walked in and asked me 258 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:04,720 to say if this was possible, and I did explain to them 259 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:08,640 that having never taken a body into the mire, I don't know, 260 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:11,080 but I'm quite convinced 261 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:14,680 in my own opinion that had he walked 262 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:17,680 into the mire, then the disposition 263 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:20,640 of the remains would have been very different. 264 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:24,320 Jen was really important around the interpretation 265 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:27,880 of that deposition site, her evidence was absolutely solid, 266 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:29,920 and, yeah, couldn't ask for more, really. 267 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:38,520 They talked of torturing him in text messages, discussed the cost 268 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:39,640 of hiring a hit man, 269 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:42,520 and today they were found guilty of his murder. 270 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:45,720 A jury has decided that wealthy farmer Bill Taylor was killed 271 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:48,960 by his wife and her lover for refusing her a divorce. 272 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:52,840 REPORTER: Duplicitous and calculating and plainly besotted, 273 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:56,640 that was the judge's assessment today of lovers Angela Taylor 274 00:16:56,640 --> 00:17:01,000 and Paul Cannon as they were each sentenced to 21 years in prison 275 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:04,800 for the murder of William Taylor. 276 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:07,880 What a pointless, pointless exercise. 277 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:12,800 The old-fashioned just removing a love rival, but it just seemed 278 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:16,320 so unnecessary to murder 279 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:20,360 an old man who is causing them 280 00:17:20,360 --> 00:17:23,440 no problem whatsoever. 281 00:17:25,120 --> 00:17:27,080 Yeah, a real shame. 282 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:35,960 However unusual the crime, there's a science that can help solve it. 283 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:40,640 In this next case, dozens of victims and a national manhunt led police 284 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:44,240 to the suspect in a one-of-a-kind criminal investigation. 285 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:47,880 But in order to secure a conviction, police needed the expertise 286 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:50,600 of a virologist, an expert in viruses. 287 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:56,800 My main interest has been in the field of the evolution 288 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:59,520 of viruses, how they change over time. 289 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:02,800 And I think that's obviously something that we're all very aware 290 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:04,760 of with the Covid pandemic. 291 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:13,920 Edinburgh 2015, where a shocking crime is unfolding, one 292 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:19,320 that will span the UK, affect dozens of gay men and end 293 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:21,560 in a dramatic national manhunt. 294 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:27,960 It started with one man, 26-year-old Daryll Rowe, 295 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:32,240 and one of his victims, Stuart Rodger. 296 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:35,840 I came across Daryll Rowe through an app called Grindr, 297 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:40,760 which is a sort of dating hook-up app, a bit akin to Tinder. 298 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:44,440 I agreed to meet with Daryll, 299 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:46,960 and during that encounter he appeared 300 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:51,960 to tamper or sabotage the condom which I had insisted on being used. 301 00:18:54,640 --> 00:19:00,720 And at the time I just wrote it off as me over-worrying about something. 302 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:03,920 I kind of felt quite grotty after the encounter with Daryll, 303 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:06,280 and, you know, the truth was there was a very dark 304 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:09,600 atmosphere around him, which was unmistakable. 305 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:14,080 My gut instinct did say that there was something up with him 306 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:15,880 and that there was something wrong. 307 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:21,000 But, unfortunately, I ignored my gut instinct and lived to regret that. 308 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:27,000 Stuart's instinct that something was wrong was confirmed within days 309 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:31,400 when he received a string of sinister text messages from Rowe. 310 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:35,080 About eight days later 311 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:39,080 after the encounter, he sent me a series of abusive messages 312 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:44,640 revealing to me that he had indeed sabotaged the condom, 313 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:48,680 along with a series of other insults and taunts. 314 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:54,120 I felt an enormous sense of alarm and disturbance when I got 315 00:19:54,120 --> 00:19:58,240 those messages, and I knew that because he'd sabotaged a condom, 316 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:00,360 I was at risk of contracting something, 317 00:20:00,360 --> 00:20:04,680 so I arranged am HIV test as soon as I possibly could. 318 00:20:06,360 --> 00:20:09,160 A couple of weeks after that, I got the phone call 319 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:12,520 from the clinic asking me to come in that day and telling me 320 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:16,600 that I was HIV-positive, and I knew it was definitely him. 321 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:25,040 I did contact the police, I think, within about a week of my diagnosis. 322 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:28,240 You know, I was determined to get justice and I gave a full 323 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:31,000 statement about what had happened, told them 324 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:35,560 that this man had violated my consent and showed them 325 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:39,760 the screengrabs of the messages that he had sent me. 326 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:44,640 Police Scotland moved to arrest Daryll Rowe, but he had fled. 327 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:47,640 Detectives searched for him and were astonished when he turned 328 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:49,840 up 500 miles away in Brighton. 329 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:55,400 Here, he was deliberately infecting more men with HIV. 330 00:20:59,880 --> 00:21:03,840 BBC journalist Carol Erskine reported on the case. 331 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:07,440 In Brighton, another one of his victims had found out 332 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:09,640 he had tested positive for HIV. 333 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:13,360 He had gone to a clinic to be tested, and while he was there, 334 00:21:13,360 --> 00:21:16,560 he had shown text messages that Daryll Rowe had sent him, 335 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:18,560 these terrible, horrible messages 336 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:20,760 that he had sent him, to staff at the clinic. 337 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:23,800 And they then realised that they had seen other men 338 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:26,760 in the clinic who'd had similar messages. 339 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:31,680 Police now suspected they were dealing with a serial offender 340 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:34,600 who had left behind 14 victims in Edinburgh 341 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:37,080 and now eight new victims in Brighton. 342 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:42,840 Sussex Police caught up with Daryll Rowe and he was arrested 343 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:44,200 on a charge of GBH. 344 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:50,320 But Rowe denied all the charges, and under questioning, he claimed 345 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:52,440 he was not even HIV-positive. 346 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:57,720 Do you have HIV? No. 347 00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:00,520 Have you had a HIV test recently? 348 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:04,000 Erm, not recently. 349 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:08,320 I had a relationship when I first got here and it was unprotected, 350 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:13,040 so I've not been tested after that. 351 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:14,440 OK. So what you're saying is a 352 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:17,960 couple of months ago you had a relationship, had unprotected sex. 353 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:21,680 When I first got here, I was dating somebody pretty quickly, 354 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:23,320 and it got quite intense. 355 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:29,720 Daryll Rowe was bailed in Brighton to return to his foster 356 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:31,720 parents in Scotland. 357 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:35,240 It was after three weeks of living with them that he went on the run 358 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:36,400 and was missing. 359 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:42,000 Detectives were convinced Rowe would offend again. 360 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:45,440 They shared his image with the media and a national manhunt 361 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:46,760 swung into action. 362 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:52,320 Police found his tent in the Pentland Hills and they were able 363 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:55,520 to identify it as being his because it had his medication inside. 364 00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:01,800 But for months there was no sign of Rowe until one man saw Rowe's 365 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:05,560 image and had a chilling realisation. 366 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:08,280 He was living in Newcastle with a man who believed 367 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:11,080 he was in a relationship with him and had no idea 368 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:12,840 of his previous history. 369 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:17,600 Rowe had changed his name and bank details, but continued 370 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:20,640 with his prolific crime spree, infecting even 371 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:22,240 more victims with HIV. 372 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:27,840 The nationwide manhunt to find him uncovered further victims, 373 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:30,840 and he was actually discovered on a dating website when police 374 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:34,000 were able to compare pictures of his genitalia and discover 375 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,440 that this is the man that they were looking for. 376 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:41,600 After a joint operation by Northumbria, Scotland 377 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:45,080 and Sussex police forces, Rowe was finally arrested 378 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:46,400 in North Tyneside. 379 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:52,960 But he claimed that his accusers could have caught HIV from anyone. 380 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:55,880 Detectives needed to prove that the infection could only 381 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:57,280 have come from Rowe. 382 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:01,920 So they turned to an expert witness, Peter Simmonds, 383 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:06,320 Professor of Virology at the University of Oxford. 384 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:11,120 We were provided with blood samples from Rowe and several alleged 385 00:24:11,120 --> 00:24:13,840 victims of him. 386 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:17,320 We separated white cells from those. Within the white cells, 387 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,120 there'll be copies of HIV, 388 00:24:19,120 --> 00:24:20,720 often very low numbers. 389 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:24,280 But we will then amplify those up to an extent, which means 390 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:28,720 we can then directly determine their genetic sequence and analyse 391 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:29,960 them for linkage. 392 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:36,720 HIV evolves very quickly. 393 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:38,560 So it's not just one strain, 394 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:41,560 there are literally hundreds of thousands of different strains. 395 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:43,880 Where you have a transmission of HIV, 396 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:46,600 then you can see a resemblance between the strains infecting 397 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:48,520 the two parties. 398 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:51,040 And it was really that type of linkage that we're looking 399 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:56,360 for to substantiate the allegations that were made. 400 00:24:56,360 --> 00:25:01,040 We conduct what we call phylogenetic analysis that will show 401 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:03,640 whether these strains cluster together 402 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,040 or whether they're unrelated to each other. 403 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:10,400 Well, if we find a strong clustering of strains and in fact, in this case 404 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:12,160 we did, what this shows, effectively, 405 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:13,720 is they share a similar or common 406 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:18,000 strain of HIV, and that would generally be acquired 407 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,240 through transmission between them. 408 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:23,520 Having concluded a strain of HIV was common among Rowe 409 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:25,600 and his victims, 410 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:28,440 Professor Simmonds now had to recheck his results 411 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:30,640 and run the analysis a second time. 412 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:34,120 We were provided with a second set of samples, and the idea of 413 00:25:34,120 --> 00:25:37,200 that was to show that we reproducibly got the same 414 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:40,560 strains from the individuals in a different set of samples. 415 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:43,720 That was actually what the defence expert would demand 416 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:45,760 that we provide as evidence. 417 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,680 In 2018, Daryll Rowe was tried at courts in both 418 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:52,200 England and Scotland. 419 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:55,520 He was charged with causing grievous bodily harm with intent 420 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:57,160 to infect HIV. 421 00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:00,800 He became the first man in the country to be found guilty 422 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:04,000 of intentionally trying to spread the virus. 423 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:09,920 When we were in court, I saw him in the flesh for the first time 424 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:13,760 since the incident, and that was very nerve-racking. 425 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,440 It was kind of a vindication to see him, 426 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,280 to kind of see him kind of cut down to size, 427 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:22,840 and he was a much more belittled 428 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:26,080 and humble figure sitting there in the dock. 429 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:33,320 I went to court and had to testify to the judge and jury. 430 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:37,240 Finding such a strong cluster in such a large number of people 431 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:41,080 was actually key to the certainty that Rowe was involved in this, 432 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:46,000 and I think the genetic evidence was very well understood by the jury 433 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:50,720 and probably influenced their decision that he was guilty. 434 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:54,320 Rowe was sentenced to 12 years in England, and in Scotland 435 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:59,200 he was given eight years and placed on the Sex Offenders Register. 436 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:05,080 I felt a huge amount of relief, most of all. 437 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:10,520 Sadly, a lot of victims of sexual violence don't get justice, 438 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:13,040 and I was very lucky in that respect. 439 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:15,960 And actually, that's a credit to the professionalism of everybody 440 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:17,480 involved on the case. 441 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,400 Peter Simmonds' work was crucial in convicting Daryll 442 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:24,200 because it helped us get to the point where it could be proved 443 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,760 beyond reasonable doubt that it had been transmitted 444 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:29,680 from him to me. 445 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,800 Without virology findings, the prosecution would rely 446 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:37,160 on the fact that there was a consistent contact history 447 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:40,360 between Rowe and the individuals concerned. 448 00:27:40,360 --> 00:27:44,560 So having the genetic evidence was certainly very important in showing 449 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:48,920 the linkage between HIV strains within the various parties involved. 450 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:58,280 Two very different cases there, but both needing the extraordinary 451 00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:02,200 skills of expert witnesses to dig beneath the surface and help 452 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:05,520 detectives uncover the truth and bring those responsible 453 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:07,240 to justice. 63310

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