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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:10,919 - This is the first time I've ever watched this. 2 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:18,404 - They wanted to make sure 3 00:00:18,450 --> 00:00:20,150 that they could take her deposition 4 00:00:20,230 --> 00:00:21,710 while she was still alive. 5 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:23,240 I can hear Mom's stress. 6 00:00:59,530 --> 00:01:02,140 - It's got to be unbelievably scary 7 00:01:02,230 --> 00:01:05,230 for someone like her to come so close to death. 8 00:01:09,370 --> 00:01:11,980 - She had to survive and tell the tale, 9 00:01:12,070 --> 00:01:16,550 but why was she the one who lived 10 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:18,730 with all the other women who didn't? 11 00:01:26,210 --> 00:01:33,310 โ™ช โ™ช 12 00:01:45,320 --> 00:01:48,450 - This is the man, Billy Chemirmir. 13 00:01:48,540 --> 00:01:51,540 The suspect forced his way into the victim's apartment, 14 00:01:51,630 --> 00:01:54,590 told her to, "Go to bed, don't fight me." 15 00:01:54,670 --> 00:01:57,290 Chemirmir put a pillow over her face, 16 00:01:57,370 --> 00:01:59,160 causing her to lose consciousness. 17 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:02,120 She survived. 18 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:05,210 - Mary Bartel's account, that's the moment 19 00:02:05,290 --> 00:02:07,430 that I found out exactly what happened to my mom. 20 00:02:07,510 --> 00:02:09,650 - Mary had come home. 21 00:02:09,730 --> 00:02:11,520 She grabbed my hands. 22 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:14,650 She told me, "I think he did it to your mom." 23 00:02:14,740 --> 00:02:18,350 My precious mother. I just didn't believe it. 24 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:21,310 - Billy Chemirmir killed my mom. 25 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:23,790 I just sat down and cried. 26 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:27,270 - This is everything that you don't want for your mom. 27 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:30,410 She was alone, 28 00:02:30,490 --> 00:02:33,840 she was threatened, 29 00:02:33,930 --> 00:02:36,190 and she was not peaceful. 30 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:40,810 And that's the nightmare I live with. 31 00:02:40,890 --> 00:02:42,544 - Plano police confirm they are looking 32 00:02:42,550 --> 00:02:45,510 at several suspicious deaths in this complex. 33 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:47,120 - Someone at this complex noticed 34 00:02:47,210 --> 00:02:48,730 a suspicious silver Nissan 35 00:02:48,820 --> 00:02:51,430 and took down the license plate. 36 00:02:51,510 --> 00:02:54,080 That plate tip led them to Billy Chemirmir... 37 00:02:54,170 --> 00:02:56,350 - And a jewelry box with 81-year-old 38 00:02:56,430 --> 00:02:58,220 Lu Harris's name on it. 39 00:02:58,300 --> 00:03:00,000 Harris was found dead. 40 00:03:05,350 --> 00:03:07,400 - My grandmother was Lu Thi Harris. 41 00:03:07,490 --> 00:03:10,050 And, actually, my grandmother named me. 42 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:15,360 That's something that will always connect me to her. 43 00:03:15,450 --> 00:03:18,800 There are literally thousands of photos of my grandmother. 44 00:03:21,980 --> 00:03:25,240 She is gorgeous and she loved dressing up. 45 00:03:25,330 --> 00:03:28,200 She had a little kid smile. 46 00:03:28,290 --> 00:03:31,210 She's smiling very genuinely. 47 00:03:31,290 --> 00:03:34,030 I didn't know how much she traveled. 48 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:37,910 Tanzania, Hong Kong, Costa Rica. 49 00:03:51,270 --> 00:03:52,604 - So did you work in the kitchen? 50 00:04:11,420 --> 00:04:15,340 - She had met William Harris towards the end of the war. 51 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:25,650 William Harris really did love her and cared for her. 52 00:04:31,050 --> 00:04:33,270 - He did bring her to the embassy 53 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:36,400 where they were evacuating. 54 00:04:36,490 --> 00:04:39,930 Two days before the Vietnam War ended, she left. 55 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:51,980 - She left behind everything that she knew 56 00:04:52,070 --> 00:04:55,030 because of this trust that she would build a better future 57 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:56,990 and come back. 58 00:04:57,070 --> 00:04:59,340 That says a lot about the sacrifice 59 00:04:59,420 --> 00:05:00,560 in our family legacy. 60 00:05:05,260 --> 00:05:09,870 In the late '80s, the U.S. finally opened its borders 61 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:12,000 and she was able to visit her family again. 62 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:20,100 We visited my grandmother in Texas in 2005. 63 00:05:20,180 --> 00:05:22,320 I was probably about nine or ten. 64 00:05:24,490 --> 00:05:26,410 Hello. Welcome to the tour. 65 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:28,980 There she is. 66 00:05:31,670 --> 00:05:33,980 - That's her smile and that's her laugh. 67 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:38,810 That's the garage. That's the same car. 68 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:44,730 - This was the last time that I saw my grandmother. 69 00:05:53,300 --> 00:05:56,390 My dad picked me up from university. 70 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:58,960 He immediately burst out sobbing. 71 00:05:59,050 --> 00:06:01,490 Like, "Karen, I have to tell you something. 72 00:06:01,570 --> 00:06:02,920 "Your grandmother is dead. 73 00:06:03,010 --> 00:06:04,620 We think that she fell." 74 00:06:18,070 --> 00:06:20,160 - I remember him calling and saying, 75 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:21,810 "It wasn't an accident. 76 00:06:21,900 --> 00:06:24,600 It was murder." 77 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:26,600 - When all of this is happening, 78 00:06:26,690 --> 00:06:30,950 we have detectives working different angles. 79 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:32,600 - We already knew there was someone 80 00:06:32,690 --> 00:06:36,300 killing multiple people at elderly living facilities. 81 00:06:36,390 --> 00:06:38,610 With that information, there was a call 82 00:06:38,700 --> 00:06:41,660 at one of the facilities about a suspicious person. 83 00:06:41,740 --> 00:06:45,050 Turns out that it was Billy Chemirmir. 84 00:06:45,140 --> 00:06:47,580 - Detectives ended up arresting him. 85 00:06:47,660 --> 00:06:50,930 He was, you know, caught with Ms. Harris's jewelry. 86 00:06:51,010 --> 00:06:53,150 At that point, officers were sent 87 00:06:53,230 --> 00:06:54,710 to Ms. Harris's house. 88 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:58,540 They believed that she had just been murdered. 89 00:07:01,940 --> 00:07:03,940 - I was in the alley. 90 00:07:04,030 --> 00:07:06,154 One of the neighbors asked me, "Is everything OK?" 91 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:10,210 I said, "Yes, sir, we just need to check the welfare 92 00:07:10,290 --> 00:07:12,600 of the lady who lives here." 93 00:07:12,690 --> 00:07:14,470 And he said, "Well, she should be fine. 94 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:18,520 I saw her at the post office at 4:30 this afternoon." 95 00:07:18,610 --> 00:07:21,570 We arrested Chemirmir at approximately 6:00 PM. 96 00:07:23,090 --> 00:07:25,960 - When Dallas Police kicked the door in, 97 00:07:26,050 --> 00:07:28,880 she basically was freshly dead. 98 00:07:30,140 --> 00:07:33,140 - Investigators say Billy Chemirmir is responsible 99 00:07:33,230 --> 00:07:35,490 for killing the 81-year-old woman. 100 00:07:35,580 --> 00:07:37,664 - A medical examiner determined that final victim 101 00:07:37,670 --> 00:07:41,020 died only about an hour before his arrest. 102 00:07:41,110 --> 00:07:43,330 - We have all these different pieces 103 00:07:43,410 --> 00:07:47,590 of evidence coming in that are all pointing at Chemirmir. 104 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:49,510 - He was very much caught red-handed. 105 00:07:51,990 --> 00:07:55,030 There were several items of jewelry in his left hand. 106 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:58,650 Also a very large stack of $2 bills. 107 00:07:58,730 --> 00:08:00,950 Ms. Harris's family said that she gave out 108 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:04,040 $2 bills for birthdays, holidays. 109 00:08:04,130 --> 00:08:06,180 She always bought a large number of them 110 00:08:06,260 --> 00:08:08,480 in sequential order. 111 00:08:10,310 --> 00:08:12,180 We searched his car. 112 00:08:12,270 --> 00:08:14,140 There was a hammer. 113 00:08:14,230 --> 00:08:17,840 I suspect that's what he used to break the jewelry box. 114 00:08:17,930 --> 00:08:20,020 Keys in the cupholder. 115 00:08:20,100 --> 00:08:23,540 Those belonged to Ms. Harris's house. 116 00:08:23,630 --> 00:08:25,500 Groceries, they were from the same store 117 00:08:25,590 --> 00:08:28,590 that Ms. Harris was last seen there. 118 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:31,900 - At Ms. Harris's house, the police found 119 00:08:31,980 --> 00:08:33,940 a Walmart shopping bag with receipts. 120 00:08:36,470 --> 00:08:37,887 They tracked back to that Walmart 121 00:08:37,950 --> 00:08:40,860 on Coit and Arapaho in Richardson 122 00:08:40,950 --> 00:08:43,740 and were able to pull the surveillance footage. 123 00:08:43,820 --> 00:08:48,870 - Walmart has cameras all over the place, all over the store, 124 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:51,830 so we were able to watch his conduct 125 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:55,440 for hours at a time and different days. 126 00:08:55,530 --> 00:08:57,580 You know, older women with their husbands, 127 00:08:57,660 --> 00:09:00,880 he would try to help them get a basket or whatever. 128 00:09:00,970 --> 00:09:03,970 - We believe that he would sit at the Walmart 129 00:09:04,060 --> 00:09:06,540 and wait for somebody that he thought that he could murder 130 00:09:06,630 --> 00:09:08,410 and take the jewelry from. 131 00:09:08,500 --> 00:09:10,330 - If you watch nature videos, 132 00:09:10,410 --> 00:09:14,110 you see predators stalk their prey. 133 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:16,160 He did the same thing in his own way. 134 00:09:18,810 --> 00:09:23,300 - And so on March 20, Ms. Harris is at the Walmart. 135 00:09:23,380 --> 00:09:27,520 - We see him looking at Ms. Harris, 136 00:09:27,610 --> 00:09:29,870 kind of following her. 137 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:32,000 He left first. 138 00:09:32,090 --> 00:09:35,400 Shortly thereafter, she left. 139 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:40,620 - And Billy Chemirmir was waiting for her. 140 00:09:40,710 --> 00:09:44,450 - It is terrifying to think that you could just be going 141 00:09:44,540 --> 00:09:50,020 your merry own way in Walmart, be followed home, 142 00:09:50,110 --> 00:09:54,850 and before you got the chance to close the garage door, 143 00:09:54,940 --> 00:09:58,290 someone comes through it and... 144 00:09:58,380 --> 00:10:00,797 that's the last person that you'll ever see before you die. 145 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:05,430 - After Chemirmir is arrested, 146 00:10:05,510 --> 00:10:07,600 he's taken to the Dallas Police Department 147 00:10:07,690 --> 00:10:11,610 where he is interviewed by detectives. 148 00:10:11,690 --> 00:10:13,350 At that point, he gave the story 149 00:10:13,430 --> 00:10:14,480 that he was a caregiver. 150 00:10:24,620 --> 00:10:26,710 - He says he's looking for work. 151 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:28,925 He doesn't know anything about Ms. Harris's house. 152 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:36,760 - He bought a box of jewelry 153 00:10:36,850 --> 00:10:39,370 from some random person down the street. 154 00:10:50,910 --> 00:10:52,327 - Obviously, we didn't believe him. 155 00:11:00,830 --> 00:11:04,700 - He was being looked at for a murder and possibly others. 156 00:11:04,790 --> 00:11:08,490 Confronted with irrefutable proof... 157 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:15,020 - He just doubled down on his lies. 158 00:11:33,730 --> 00:11:36,600 - His ability just to continue adamantly 159 00:11:36,690 --> 00:11:38,820 to lie in the face of truth... 160 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:43,740 - You just don't see that very often. 161 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:22,520 At Chemirmir's apartment, Dallas found 162 00:12:22,610 --> 00:12:24,960 several cell phones, gloves, 163 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:28,700 a printed out passport for an alias. 164 00:12:28,790 --> 00:12:30,400 Also jewelry, of course. 165 00:12:33,050 --> 00:12:36,360 - My mom's watch was found at Billy's apartment. 166 00:12:36,450 --> 00:12:40,620 The Tag watch that was stopped, it was hers, without question. 167 00:12:43,150 --> 00:12:46,060 - Our sources say suspect Billy Chemirmir is being 168 00:12:46,150 --> 00:12:47,720 held here at the Dallas County Jail 169 00:12:47,810 --> 00:12:49,680 on a capital murder charge. 170 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:51,850 - He is being held on $1 million bond. 171 00:13:26,410 --> 00:13:29,590 - And his girlfriend Margaret, I would think she would have 172 00:13:29,670 --> 00:13:33,110 to question where all this money's coming from, 173 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:36,550 but she adamantly denied knowing anything about it. 174 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:38,250 That could be the case. 175 00:13:38,330 --> 00:13:42,210 He was definitely an alpha in that relationship. 176 00:13:58,700 --> 00:14:01,970 - Billy Chemirmir is from Kenya, 177 00:14:02,050 --> 00:14:05,840 a smaller town in the Rift Valley. 178 00:14:05,930 --> 00:14:08,020 He was from a large, respected family, 179 00:14:08,100 --> 00:14:10,410 son of a village leader. 180 00:14:10,500 --> 00:14:13,110 His father lived to be over 100 years old 181 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:16,110 and had three different wives, 28 children. 182 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:30,040 - His sister helped him emigrate because she was here 183 00:14:30,130 --> 00:14:33,520 and she runs a home health care business. 184 00:14:33,610 --> 00:14:37,390 - He came to the United States in 2003 initially. 185 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:39,610 - He was a legal permanent resident, 186 00:14:39,700 --> 00:14:43,270 a green card holder. 187 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:45,750 - We did a full criminal history on Chemirmir. 188 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:48,750 He had a prior DWI in 2010. 189 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:51,970 He got 18 months probation. 190 00:14:52,060 --> 00:14:55,150 - He was a heavy drinker by everyone's report. 191 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:58,890 - Another DWI in 2011. 192 00:14:58,980 --> 00:15:00,810 Failed to appear, and at that point, 193 00:15:00,900 --> 00:15:03,380 there was actually a warrant out for his arrest. 194 00:15:03,460 --> 00:15:07,550 And then you have domestic abuse and family assault. 195 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:29,290 - He was arrested for an assault 196 00:16:29,370 --> 00:16:31,380 family violence charge. 197 00:16:31,460 --> 00:16:35,250 From what I've learned, he was just very physically abusive, 198 00:16:35,340 --> 00:16:39,210 verbally abusive, but they just kind of cohabitated 199 00:16:39,300 --> 00:16:40,860 having a child together. 200 00:17:42,580 --> 00:17:45,280 - If Mary Bartel had not survived 201 00:17:45,360 --> 00:17:47,630 the attack of Billy Chemirmir, 202 00:17:47,710 --> 00:17:50,370 the police may never have caught him, 203 00:17:50,460 --> 00:17:52,590 because he would have been gone back to Kenya. 204 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:55,290 We may never have known the nature and extent 205 00:17:55,370 --> 00:17:57,070 of these heinous acts. 206 00:17:57,160 --> 00:18:00,510 - Police worry there are more elderly victims. 207 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:02,770 About two years ago, he was arrested twice 208 00:18:02,860 --> 00:18:05,730 at the Edgemere Senior Living Apartments in Dallas 209 00:18:05,820 --> 00:18:09,170 for falsely claiming to be an employee there. 210 00:18:23,010 --> 00:18:25,710 - I remember I flipped on the TV 211 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:27,880 and just listened sentence by sentence 212 00:18:27,970 --> 00:18:29,760 to see exactly what they were saying. 213 00:18:40,070 --> 00:18:42,640 Dr. Catherine Sinclair, my aunt, 214 00:18:42,730 --> 00:18:45,770 died April 2016. 215 00:18:45,860 --> 00:18:48,690 What the Plano police said 216 00:18:48,770 --> 00:18:51,910 made every sense to me in the world. 217 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:53,690 This is what had happened to Cathy. 218 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:10,270 - I immediately called the hotline. 219 00:19:10,360 --> 00:19:14,150 Detective Tabor was very, very interested. 220 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:16,320 From the information they had, 221 00:19:16,410 --> 00:19:19,150 Chemirmir was at her apartment complex 222 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:22,240 the afternoon Catherine was killed. 223 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:28,290 - Dr. Catherine Sinclair lived at Edgemere. 224 00:19:28,380 --> 00:19:31,210 - Prior to the first murders 225 00:19:31,300 --> 00:19:36,950 at Tradition Prestonwood in July 2016, 226 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:39,090 before these murders happened 227 00:19:39,170 --> 00:19:41,570 at the Parkview Frisco Facility 228 00:19:41,650 --> 00:19:44,920 and the nightmare at Preston Place, 229 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:49,270 Chemirmir had already committed multiple murders 230 00:19:49,360 --> 00:19:52,140 at Edgemere. 231 00:19:52,230 --> 00:19:55,490 - Experience Edgemere inside and out. 232 00:19:55,580 --> 00:19:59,540 Its distinctive design blends the charm of a Tuscan estate 233 00:19:59,630 --> 00:20:01,890 with authentic Dallas energy. 234 00:20:01,980 --> 00:20:05,680 Safe and secure in a 16-acre gated community. 235 00:20:09,770 --> 00:20:13,030 - The security guards at Edgemere called the police 236 00:20:13,120 --> 00:20:15,030 about Chemirmir at least twice, 237 00:20:15,120 --> 00:20:17,074 but the police were told about this jewel thief 238 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:18,780 and not a killer. 239 00:20:18,860 --> 00:20:21,910 That was a really big missed opportunity 240 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:24,870 that might have prevented nearly all the rest 241 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:27,220 of the known murderers. 242 00:20:27,310 --> 00:20:30,490 - God only knows when Chemirmir started, 243 00:20:30,570 --> 00:20:33,750 but Dr. Sinclair was the first victim identified 244 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:36,100 by law enforcement that we're aware of 245 00:20:36,190 --> 00:20:39,020 and was the first victim at Edgemere. 246 00:20:40,540 --> 00:20:43,110 - It was early in the morning. 247 00:20:43,190 --> 00:20:46,370 One of the housekeepers goes Into Dr. Sinclair's room. 248 00:20:46,460 --> 00:20:50,290 She finds her unresponsive. 249 00:20:50,370 --> 00:20:53,900 So I go to the apartment and I touch her arm, 250 00:20:53,990 --> 00:20:55,510 and she was cold. 251 00:20:58,340 --> 00:20:59,780 I called 911. 252 00:20:59,860 --> 00:21:02,040 The paramedics and the police came up there. 253 00:21:02,130 --> 00:21:05,610 - The next day, my sister and brother 254 00:21:05,690 --> 00:21:07,830 went to Cathy's apartment. 255 00:21:07,910 --> 00:21:10,390 They had already moved her to the funeral home, 256 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:14,050 but they noticed that there were blood spots on the bed, 257 00:21:14,140 --> 00:21:15,620 on the sheets. 258 00:21:15,700 --> 00:21:17,530 - The family of Dr. Sinclair brought 259 00:21:17,620 --> 00:21:20,400 a police officer with them. 260 00:21:20,490 --> 00:21:22,710 They said that there was a missing safe. 261 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:25,410 - A lot of really nice gems and jewels 262 00:21:25,500 --> 00:21:28,760 and collectible coins were in that safe. 263 00:21:28,850 --> 00:21:31,590 - 99 cameras, all of them at exits. 264 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:34,070 I looked at the footage, couldn't find anybody. 265 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:37,070 - I said, "Well, I'm gonna file a homicide complaint." 266 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:39,420 - This all smelled of foul play to them immediately. 267 00:21:39,510 --> 00:21:41,820 - Something really smells rotten here. 268 00:21:41,900 --> 00:21:45,600 - They basically force an autopsy, 269 00:21:45,690 --> 00:21:47,610 stopping the body from being cremated, 270 00:21:47,690 --> 00:21:49,350 getting it to the ME's office. 271 00:21:51,260 --> 00:21:54,130 - We were informed 272 00:21:54,220 --> 00:21:57,620 that Catherine died of natural causes. 273 00:21:57,700 --> 00:22:01,100 We did not get a copy of the autopsy. 274 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:06,230 Cathy was a dedicated doctor. 275 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:09,800 You know, you knew she was a friend. 276 00:22:09,890 --> 00:22:13,890 And then Cathy was murdered, no doubt in my mind. 277 00:22:13,980 --> 00:22:18,240 But I was going up against this system that is saying no. 278 00:22:18,330 --> 00:22:21,290 And this goes on for two years 279 00:22:21,380 --> 00:22:24,560 prior to Chemirmir being caught. 280 00:22:25,860 --> 00:22:30,000 - Dan Probst calls me April 4, 2018. 281 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:33,260 "I want to meet with you because I think my aunt 282 00:22:33,350 --> 00:22:35,130 was one of Chemirmir's victims." 283 00:22:35,220 --> 00:22:37,180 - We got started on the investigations 284 00:22:37,260 --> 00:22:39,180 through one family saying, you know, 285 00:22:39,270 --> 00:22:42,620 "We think this happened to our aunt." 286 00:22:42,700 --> 00:22:45,880 - This is a portion of research for Dr. Sinclair. 287 00:22:45,970 --> 00:22:48,930 We were trying to figure out, all right, are we crazy 288 00:22:49,010 --> 00:22:52,540 or does this autopsy look as off to you as it does to me? 289 00:22:52,630 --> 00:22:56,760 - Her autopsy is extremely consistent 290 00:22:56,850 --> 00:22:58,460 with a violent smothering. 291 00:22:58,550 --> 00:23:01,980 There was petechiae, which is blood vessels 292 00:23:02,070 --> 00:23:03,900 bursting under pressure, 293 00:23:03,990 --> 00:23:05,810 slight hemorrhaging from the mouth, 294 00:23:05,900 --> 00:23:09,950 possibly a defensive bruise, green marks on her abdomen, 295 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:12,210 probably from somebody's knee 296 00:23:12,300 --> 00:23:14,210 while they were smothering her. 297 00:23:14,300 --> 00:23:17,170 That's rather odd for a natural death to me. 298 00:23:17,260 --> 00:23:19,180 That was a murder, a no-brainer. 299 00:23:19,260 --> 00:23:24,750 But I'm just a regular Joe. 300 00:23:24,830 --> 00:23:28,010 - As we started learning more about Edgemere, 301 00:23:28,100 --> 00:23:29,614 we realized this is a little bit bigger 302 00:23:29,620 --> 00:23:31,620 than just one person. 303 00:23:31,710 --> 00:23:34,670 Chemirmir was able to scout out his victims there 304 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:38,370 because he was working at Edgemere as a third party 305 00:23:38,460 --> 00:23:41,280 independent aid for another resident 306 00:23:41,370 --> 00:23:45,160 using an alias, Benjamin Koitaba. 307 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:47,730 - Benjamin Koitaba is 308 00:23:47,810 --> 00:23:51,030 Chemirmir sister's ex-husband and cousin. 309 00:23:51,120 --> 00:23:54,210 - Billy Chemirmir used Benjamin Koitaba's passport 310 00:23:54,300 --> 00:23:58,210 his driver's license, his name, his bank accounts, 311 00:23:58,300 --> 00:24:00,390 basically his everything. 312 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:02,960 - He worked for one of our residents 313 00:24:03,050 --> 00:24:07,180 from February to April 2016. 314 00:24:09,140 --> 00:24:14,620 That Monday, I get a call from a resident 315 00:24:14,710 --> 00:24:16,840 saying a man had come to her apartment 316 00:24:16,930 --> 00:24:18,710 claiming to be with maintenance. 317 00:24:20,410 --> 00:24:23,020 She said he was a Black man wearing a maroon shirt 318 00:24:23,110 --> 00:24:24,020 and maroon pants. 319 00:24:24,110 --> 00:24:25,680 I look at the security footage 320 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:29,640 and I see Benjamin. 321 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:32,160 So I called the police. 322 00:24:32,250 --> 00:24:35,160 - He's given a written warning as Koitaba. 323 00:24:35,250 --> 00:24:37,250 And half the trespassing charges were, 324 00:24:37,340 --> 00:24:40,430 if you have a written warning and you come back again, 325 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:42,350 then you can get taken to jail. 326 00:24:42,430 --> 00:24:43,722 That's when it becomes a crime. 327 00:24:43,740 --> 00:24:45,130 We walked him to his vehicle, 328 00:24:45,220 --> 00:24:46,520 told him not to come back. 329 00:24:46,610 --> 00:24:48,570 We banned him from the property. 330 00:24:48,660 --> 00:24:52,570 - This was ten days after Catherine's death, 331 00:24:52,660 --> 00:24:57,360 and none of this information was told to me 332 00:24:57,450 --> 00:24:59,280 or to the family of Phyllis Payne. 333 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:03,580 - It has haunted me a lot 334 00:25:03,670 --> 00:25:06,500 because Mom was the second known victim. 335 00:25:06,590 --> 00:25:08,410 My mom was an interior designer, 336 00:25:08,500 --> 00:25:10,330 really creative. 337 00:25:10,420 --> 00:25:12,510 We said she probably should have been an architect 338 00:25:12,590 --> 00:25:14,290 because she could draw floor plans 339 00:25:14,380 --> 00:25:17,730 and do the structural work. 340 00:25:17,820 --> 00:25:19,730 She loved being at Edgemere. 341 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:26,780 She was 4'11" and 99 pounds. 342 00:25:26,870 --> 00:25:30,350 This defenseless, sweet woman, 343 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:34,140 to learn that her last moments on Earth were horror 344 00:25:34,220 --> 00:25:37,790 is just more than you can bear. 345 00:25:40,970 --> 00:25:44,100 - I had gotten a report 346 00:25:44,190 --> 00:25:48,150 of Ms. Payne not showing up to her breakfast. 347 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:50,850 I went and knocked on her door. 348 00:25:50,940 --> 00:25:54,200 Nothing, so I finally entered. 349 00:25:55,590 --> 00:25:59,600 And I saw that she was laying in her bed peaceful as can be 350 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,030 and looked like she was just sleeping. 351 00:26:02,120 --> 00:26:05,560 - But Ms. Payne had silverware that was missing. 352 00:26:05,650 --> 00:26:08,560 - And she kept her good jewelry in a coffee can 353 00:26:08,650 --> 00:26:10,000 in the refrigerator. 354 00:26:10,090 --> 00:26:11,700 We looked, and it was gone. 355 00:26:15,740 --> 00:26:18,480 The really hard thing to think about 356 00:26:18,570 --> 00:26:21,620 is that he had to ask her, 357 00:26:21,710 --> 00:26:23,750 "Show me where your good jewelry is." 358 00:26:26,100 --> 00:26:27,490 I'm sorry. 359 00:26:27,580 --> 00:26:28,970 I'm sorry. 360 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:34,720 - June 5, 2016, 361 00:26:34,810 --> 00:26:37,680 Ms. Perry was found passed away. 362 00:26:40,460 --> 00:26:43,120 - She was slumped out of her chair, 363 00:26:43,210 --> 00:26:46,250 and there was a little pillow next to her. 364 00:26:46,340 --> 00:26:48,380 That was the weird part for me. 365 00:26:48,470 --> 00:26:50,780 Why would the pillow have blood on it? 366 00:26:50,870 --> 00:26:54,000 - Ms. Perry also had some missing items, jewelry. 367 00:26:56,780 --> 00:27:00,660 - So what led up to your suspicions of foul play? 368 00:27:00,740 --> 00:27:02,830 - Well, after Dr. Sinclair passed away, 369 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:04,710 I asked one of the supervisors, 370 00:27:04,790 --> 00:27:06,314 "How often does something like that happen 371 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:09,010 where you find them passed away?" 372 00:27:09,100 --> 00:27:11,410 He said, "For someone that's not on hospice, 373 00:27:11,490 --> 00:27:12,800 it's been seven years." 374 00:27:12,890 --> 00:27:15,190 - Did that make you suspicious, or not yet? 375 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:17,200 - They said it was natural causes, you know. 376 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:18,614 I just... you trust that, right? 377 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:20,070 - Right. We did too. 378 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:23,770 - Yeah, but after the second one, Ms. Payne, 379 00:27:23,850 --> 00:27:26,290 and then Ms. Perry a few weeks later, 380 00:27:26,380 --> 00:27:27,380 I started looking back. 381 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:32,780 There was nothing saying that any of them were murdered. 382 00:27:32,860 --> 00:27:35,040 It was just me and my suspicion 383 00:27:35,130 --> 00:27:36,650 of it being such a coincidence 384 00:27:36,740 --> 00:27:40,650 that they all had missing items. 385 00:27:40,740 --> 00:27:43,530 So I looked at the electronic door logs 386 00:27:43,610 --> 00:27:46,440 for Ms. Payne and Ms. Perry. 387 00:27:46,530 --> 00:27:48,570 On the mornings of their deaths, 388 00:27:48,660 --> 00:27:53,450 the door opened from the inside, 389 00:27:53,540 --> 00:27:56,670 door closed, then ten minutes later, 390 00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:59,060 it said door opened from the inside, 391 00:27:59,150 --> 00:28:00,330 and then door closed. 392 00:28:00,410 --> 00:28:01,940 It was like a sequence. 393 00:28:04,370 --> 00:28:06,160 It said that same sequence for both ladies. 394 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:07,810 - Yeah. 395 00:28:07,900 --> 00:28:10,210 - Josh Aleman puts this pattern together 396 00:28:10,290 --> 00:28:13,990 when this is happening in 2016. 397 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:18,470 He starts reviewing video and finds this guy, 398 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:22,090 Benjamin Koitaba, who's really Billy Chemirmir. 399 00:28:22,170 --> 00:28:26,050 - I found, after the door closed for the last time, 400 00:28:26,130 --> 00:28:29,790 Billy Chemirmir leaving out of the facility exit 401 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,440 within ten minutes for both ladies. 402 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:38,060 After we found Ms. Perry's body, 403 00:28:38,150 --> 00:28:40,540 that very next week, I got a call from a resident 404 00:28:40,630 --> 00:28:42,624 saying that a man had come to her apartment claiming 405 00:28:42,630 --> 00:28:44,370 to be with maintenance. 406 00:28:44,460 --> 00:28:46,194 - And you knew that was Billy that was back, 407 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,200 although he was called Benjamin at that time. 408 00:28:48,290 --> 00:28:50,499 - I had a gut feeling that it was him again, you know? 409 00:28:52,250 --> 00:28:55,600 He stole a key fob and he stole jewelry from her. 410 00:28:55,690 --> 00:28:58,170 There's a camera close to that apartment in the stairwell, 411 00:28:58,250 --> 00:28:59,860 and I saw him. 412 00:28:59,950 --> 00:29:03,130 He was carrying a manila envelope. 413 00:29:03,210 --> 00:29:06,390 - So he was roaming the halls, picking out his victims. 414 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:09,610 - I'm thinking since he had been a caregiver, 415 00:29:09,700 --> 00:29:13,700 Mom had probably seen him and recognized him, 416 00:29:13,790 --> 00:29:15,490 and so she just opened the door. 417 00:29:15,570 --> 00:29:17,580 - I could see that too. 418 00:29:17,660 --> 00:29:20,970 - OK. So what happened? 419 00:29:21,060 --> 00:29:24,450 - It turns out it was four weekends in a row. 420 00:29:24,540 --> 00:29:27,630 At this point, I'm thinking he's stealing from residents. 421 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:29,630 He had been following employees in 422 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,590 at shift change, 7:00 AM, 423 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:35,330 carrying a manila envelope each time. 424 00:29:35,420 --> 00:29:36,860 I called the precinct close by 425 00:29:36,940 --> 00:29:38,334 to see if they'd send somebody to help us. 426 00:29:38,340 --> 00:29:39,900 - What was their reaction 427 00:29:39,990 --> 00:29:41,204 to everything you were feeding them? 428 00:29:41,210 --> 00:29:43,340 Because they totally blew me off. 429 00:29:43,430 --> 00:29:45,780 I reported robbery and homicide. 430 00:29:45,870 --> 00:29:47,910 It went exactly nowhere. 431 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,390 - They wouldn't send anybody to help us. 432 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,960 - They should have. - Yeah. 433 00:29:54,050 --> 00:29:56,259 So me and the maintenance guys decide, you know what, 434 00:29:56,310 --> 00:29:58,010 we're going to get him ourselves. 435 00:30:00,660 --> 00:30:04,360 We met up there at 6:30. 436 00:30:04,450 --> 00:30:05,670 He walks in. 437 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:08,580 He was carrying that manila envelope. 438 00:30:08,670 --> 00:30:10,760 Me and the maintenance guys surrounded him. 439 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:15,550 My boss puts him in a headlock... 440 00:30:15,630 --> 00:30:18,250 โ™ช โ™ช 441 00:30:18,330 --> 00:30:22,250 And we take him to this conference room. 442 00:30:22,340 --> 00:30:25,430 I call the police. 443 00:30:25,510 --> 00:30:27,170 - Yeah, you've been telling the resident 444 00:30:27,260 --> 00:30:30,040 that your name is Peter and you work for maintenance. 445 00:30:33,650 --> 00:30:36,830 - What happened to your arms? 446 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,750 Well, they're all beat up. 447 00:30:39,830 --> 00:30:41,664 - We didn't think much of it at that time, 448 00:30:41,700 --> 00:30:43,360 of these scratches. 449 00:30:43,450 --> 00:30:46,930 Now looking back, it's painful to think about them. 450 00:30:47,010 --> 00:30:49,360 - Billy Chemirmir is wearing a shirt 451 00:30:49,450 --> 00:30:52,370 from a health care company that he no longer works with. 452 00:30:52,450 --> 00:30:54,200 - Just the fact that you're the same person 453 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:56,074 that we caught the first time, that's enough. 454 00:30:56,110 --> 00:30:59,720 - Look at him smiling like he did something. 455 00:30:59,810 --> 00:31:01,640 Thief. 456 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:03,680 - The police opened the manila envelope. 457 00:31:03,770 --> 00:31:08,300 - Inside there's a gun and a telescopic magnet 458 00:31:08,380 --> 00:31:10,560 and there's a... and I don't know 459 00:31:10,650 --> 00:31:12,470 if it was real or not, 460 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:15,870 but it looked like a diamond-like object. 461 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:17,870 - The gun wasn't loaded. 462 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:19,784 - Nobody would know if that gun was unloaded 463 00:31:19,790 --> 00:31:20,660 if it was pointed at them. 464 00:31:20,740 --> 00:31:23,310 - The magnet was used 465 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:25,270 to tell if jewelry was real or not. 466 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:26,920 If all the jewelry is gone, 467 00:31:27,010 --> 00:31:28,490 that would be suspicious, right? 468 00:31:28,580 --> 00:31:30,540 And so I can go through here, 469 00:31:30,620 --> 00:31:33,060 and, you know, that may have looked like 470 00:31:33,150 --> 00:31:34,800 it was something really valuable. 471 00:31:34,890 --> 00:31:36,320 Obviously, it's not. 472 00:31:36,410 --> 00:31:38,150 Silver and gold and platinum 473 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,150 will never attract to a magnet. 474 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,370 - And then he gave them his fake ID, 475 00:31:42,460 --> 00:31:46,250 but in his wallet as well was another ID, Billy Chemirmir. 476 00:31:48,030 --> 00:31:51,560 So with that, he was charged with criminal trespassing 477 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:53,560 and failure to identify. 478 00:31:53,650 --> 00:31:57,000 - I'm going to tell you what, Josh singlehandedly stopped 479 00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,000 the murders at Edgemere. 480 00:31:59,090 --> 00:32:01,650 They stopped completely that day. 481 00:32:01,740 --> 00:32:03,440 - We were pretty happy with what we did. 482 00:32:03,530 --> 00:32:06,440 We all went to IHOP afterwards and celebrated. 483 00:32:06,530 --> 00:32:09,230 We just caught a thief. 484 00:32:09,310 --> 00:32:14,800 On June 18, 2016, we captured Billy Chemirmir, 485 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:18,320 and I got married the very next weekend. 486 00:32:18,410 --> 00:32:21,060 And I went on my honeymoon. 487 00:32:21,150 --> 00:32:23,370 Management took it from there. 488 00:32:25,330 --> 00:32:28,160 - We've had three unattended deaths 489 00:32:28,250 --> 00:32:29,640 with missing jewelry. 490 00:32:29,730 --> 00:32:31,860 None of that was told to law enforcement 491 00:32:31,950 --> 00:32:34,210 by the management of Edgemere. 492 00:32:34,300 --> 00:32:37,650 And so instead of being investigated for murder 493 00:32:37,730 --> 00:32:40,520 back in June of 2016, 494 00:32:40,610 --> 00:32:43,650 Chemirmir was simply arrested for trespassing. 495 00:32:43,740 --> 00:32:47,220 - Chemirmir is sentenced to 70 days, 496 00:32:47,310 --> 00:32:50,010 but he's released early after only 12 days. 497 00:32:50,090 --> 00:32:52,010 - This was prior to the murders 498 00:32:52,100 --> 00:32:55,010 at Preston Place and Parkview Frisco 499 00:32:55,100 --> 00:32:58,360 and just weeks before the Tradition Prestonwood. 500 00:33:00,450 --> 00:33:03,500 18 days after Chemirmir is released, 501 00:33:03,590 --> 00:33:06,280 he goes to the Tradition 502 00:33:06,370 --> 00:33:07,804 and starts murdering people there. 503 00:33:07,810 --> 00:33:12,990 โ™ช โ™ช 504 00:33:13,070 --> 00:33:15,600 - After my honeymoon, I come back. 505 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:17,990 I just couldn't stop thinking about him. 506 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:21,560 The door locks and the camera footage said a story to me. 507 00:33:21,650 --> 00:33:23,000 I knew he was a thief, 508 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:25,170 but for him to have stolen from them, 509 00:33:25,260 --> 00:33:27,870 would that have meant that he killed them? 510 00:33:31,310 --> 00:33:34,050 So I show the footage and door logs 511 00:33:34,140 --> 00:33:35,599 to one of the supervisors up there, 512 00:33:35,660 --> 00:33:39,750 and they told me to write it down 513 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:42,230 and put it in the file. 514 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:45,450 And I said, "So you don't want me to go to police just yet?" 515 00:33:45,540 --> 00:33:46,760 They said, "No, not yet." 516 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:51,949 - So then they never gave you the go-ahead 517 00:33:51,980 --> 00:33:54,810 to go to the police with it? 518 00:33:54,900 --> 00:33:56,290 No. - I should have. 519 00:33:56,380 --> 00:33:57,510 - That wasn't your call. 520 00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:59,420 You had a job. 521 00:33:59,510 --> 00:34:00,770 You tried. 522 00:34:00,860 --> 00:34:02,120 You presented the evidence, 523 00:34:02,210 --> 00:34:04,690 and you can't control what they did with it. 524 00:34:04,780 --> 00:34:06,650 It's not on you. 525 00:34:06,740 --> 00:34:08,904 And I just want to make sure you know that's not on you. 526 00:34:08,910 --> 00:34:10,220 - Thank you. 527 00:34:10,300 --> 00:34:13,520 - I really needed to meet you. 528 00:34:13,610 --> 00:34:17,830 You filled in so many blanks, and it's part of our healing. 529 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:19,140 Thank you. - Thank you. 530 00:34:19,230 --> 00:34:21,010 I needed this as well. 531 00:34:21,100 --> 00:34:23,270 I've wanted to tell you for so long. 532 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:33,110 โ™ช โ™ช 533 00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:41,940 - We were totally failed by the system. 534 00:34:42,030 --> 00:34:44,334 - When I think of the lives that could have been saved, 535 00:34:44,340 --> 00:34:45,882 I don't even have a word strong enough 536 00:34:45,950 --> 00:34:48,520 for how horrendous that is. 537 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:51,210 - If they would have got on the stick from day one 538 00:34:51,300 --> 00:34:53,560 when I said "homicide," 539 00:34:53,650 --> 00:34:58,220 there could be 20, 25 more people walking this Earth. 540 00:34:58,310 --> 00:35:00,310 And that's something I think about. 541 00:35:10,230 --> 00:35:12,450 About six months after we captured him... 542 00:35:14,500 --> 00:35:18,850 We saw Chemirmir across the street from Edgemere. 543 00:35:18,940 --> 00:35:21,110 I couldn't believe the guts of this guy. 544 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:23,330 We already called the police on him twice, 545 00:35:23,420 --> 00:35:25,640 and he had the nerve to come back. 546 00:35:25,730 --> 00:35:28,510 I called the police on him a third time. 547 00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:30,210 The police talked to him. 548 00:35:30,300 --> 00:35:32,217 He said that he was working across the street 549 00:35:32,260 --> 00:35:33,994 as a caregiver and that he has no intentions 550 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,350 of going inside Edgemere. 551 00:35:36,430 --> 00:35:37,610 And the police let him go. 552 00:35:39,700 --> 00:35:44,270 Just me and my suspicions of him felt like I was alone. 553 00:35:44,350 --> 00:35:45,684 The only one that could see this. 554 00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:53,360 - Josh did everything he was supposed to do and more. 555 00:35:53,450 --> 00:35:56,410 Law enforcement didn't put it together for two years more. 556 00:35:59,500 --> 00:36:02,630 โ™ช โ™ช 557 00:36:02,720 --> 00:36:05,590 - This is everything that I worked through 558 00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:09,510 for a year and a half, all during the investigation. 559 00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:13,380 I've been with the Plano Police Department for 22 years. 560 00:36:13,470 --> 00:36:16,210 I've never seen a case of this magnitude, 561 00:36:16,300 --> 00:36:19,300 let alone been a part of one. 562 00:36:19,390 --> 00:36:21,610 - We were looking at somewhere probably 563 00:36:21,700 --> 00:36:25,350 around 700 or more unattended deaths 564 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:27,530 that could be considered. 565 00:36:27,620 --> 00:36:29,400 That's a huge undertaking. 566 00:36:31,580 --> 00:36:35,280 - We pulled information from Chemirmir's cell phones. 567 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:39,670 - We were looking at locations where the phone data put 568 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:43,370 Billy Chemirmir at the same place as unattended deaths 569 00:36:43,460 --> 00:36:46,850 where there was also missing jewelry. 570 00:36:46,940 --> 00:36:50,460 We figured out most of the time when he was selling jewelry, 571 00:36:50,550 --> 00:36:54,210 he would sell it same day or the next day 572 00:36:54,290 --> 00:36:57,560 right after he killed that person. 573 00:36:57,650 --> 00:37:00,130 - He was going to different jewelers. 574 00:37:00,210 --> 00:37:03,040 He would also sell things online 575 00:37:03,130 --> 00:37:06,390 using these money market platforms. 576 00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:09,870 - Chemirmir would routinely go to pawn shops, 577 00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:12,750 get the stolen jewelry appraised, 578 00:37:12,830 --> 00:37:16,360 decline their offer, then take it to another business 579 00:37:16,450 --> 00:37:17,970 like a gold and silver place 580 00:37:18,060 --> 00:37:19,970 knowing the value of what he has 581 00:37:20,060 --> 00:37:22,670 and present it as though he's an informed customer 582 00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:24,930 and sell it. 583 00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,590 - Within an hour or two 584 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,030 leaving Edgemere after my mom's death, 585 00:37:32,110 --> 00:37:34,200 he was selling sterling silver 586 00:37:34,290 --> 00:37:36,470 and 14- and 18-carat gold 587 00:37:36,550 --> 00:37:38,430 to the Diamond and Gold Exchange. 588 00:37:41,690 --> 00:37:44,260 - There were other locations that he went to. 589 00:37:44,340 --> 00:37:48,040 But that particular location, Diamond and Gold Exchange, 590 00:37:48,130 --> 00:37:50,050 Detective Hoffmann was able to get 591 00:37:50,130 --> 00:37:52,570 surveillance and records 592 00:37:52,660 --> 00:37:56,180 indicating that he'd been there over 50 times. 593 00:37:58,270 --> 00:38:01,620 - He shortly has smothered somebody to death, 594 00:38:01,710 --> 00:38:03,704 and he's walking in there with a big smile on his face 595 00:38:03,710 --> 00:38:08,110 with their jewelry like he just left the fair. 596 00:38:08,190 --> 00:38:10,810 - He's laughing, shaking hands. 597 00:38:10,890 --> 00:38:14,370 - No sense that he just snuffed out a life. 598 00:38:14,460 --> 00:38:16,200 It's all about the money. 599 00:38:18,380 --> 00:38:20,250 - He portrayed himself 600 00:38:20,340 --> 00:38:22,080 as a buyer and a seller of jewelry, 601 00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:23,950 obtaining it legally. 602 00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:26,260 This was his job. 603 00:38:26,340 --> 00:38:28,820 He wanted to live a fancy life. 604 00:38:28,910 --> 00:38:32,610 - The money he was making doing these homicides, 605 00:38:32,700 --> 00:38:36,050 selling this jewelry was to support an image 606 00:38:36,130 --> 00:38:37,530 of a high roller. 607 00:38:43,230 --> 00:38:46,320 He frequented four or five African clubs, 608 00:38:46,410 --> 00:38:49,580 and one in particular, Afrika Fusion. 609 00:38:51,670 --> 00:38:54,020 According to the owner of the place, 610 00:38:54,110 --> 00:38:56,760 Billy had been in there almost every single day 611 00:38:56,850 --> 00:38:59,550 for, like, three years. 612 00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:03,990 - He was buying people drinks, giving $20 tips. 613 00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:07,600 - He would spend between $200 and $300 a day. 614 00:39:09,430 --> 00:39:13,870 So he's spending all this money at these clubs, 615 00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:16,520 but he doesn't have a job that will support that. 616 00:39:17,740 --> 00:39:20,000 Chemirmir was in the health care industry 617 00:39:20,090 --> 00:39:23,790 as a caregiver. 618 00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:29,140 - He was able to pick up jobs with different agencies. 619 00:39:29,970 --> 00:39:32,670 So he had several different home health care clients. 620 00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:34,370 - People who knew him as a caregiver 621 00:39:34,450 --> 00:39:36,890 knew him as Benjamin Koitaba. 622 00:39:36,980 --> 00:39:40,020 - 2012 is when he became Benjamin Koitaba. 623 00:39:40,110 --> 00:39:42,720 He took his cousin's identity. 624 00:39:42,810 --> 00:39:46,250 Koitaba had a clean record, and most of these places 625 00:39:46,340 --> 00:39:50,030 were not, you know, taking his fingerprints. 626 00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:51,780 - This lack of safety and security 627 00:39:51,860 --> 00:39:54,650 that was prevalent in the industry as a whole, 628 00:39:54,740 --> 00:39:58,480 the MacPhee family is a victim of that. 629 00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:06,090 - Carolyn MacPhee, her husband Jack had a rare disease 630 00:40:06,180 --> 00:40:08,660 and she had had to hire a home health care aide... 631 00:40:08,750 --> 00:40:10,190 more than one, actually. 632 00:40:10,270 --> 00:40:14,970 And the agency she hired sent Ben Koitaba, 633 00:40:15,060 --> 00:40:18,930 AKA Chemirmir. 634 00:40:19,020 --> 00:40:22,280 - We emptied Mom's house out, and the only paperwork 635 00:40:22,370 --> 00:40:25,370 that we still had was from the home health care provider. 636 00:40:25,460 --> 00:40:28,290 All these records with his name on it. 637 00:40:28,380 --> 00:40:30,290 - Wells Fargo. 638 00:40:30,380 --> 00:40:34,600 Benjamin Koitaba wrote a check for $264. 639 00:40:34,690 --> 00:40:36,430 He was always kind of standoffish. 640 00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:39,520 Took care of Dad great, did his job, 641 00:40:39,610 --> 00:40:42,960 but he'd always take his food and go into the different room 642 00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:44,050 and be on a laptop. 643 00:40:44,130 --> 00:40:45,440 So I don't know if he was 644 00:40:45,530 --> 00:40:47,570 counting his cash, counting the gold. 645 00:40:47,660 --> 00:40:51,270 - He was on there listing other women's jewelry to sell it. 646 00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:52,710 - Yeah. Evil. 647 00:40:52,790 --> 00:40:54,100 - Yeah. 648 00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,630 My mom was supposed to be at church. 649 00:41:01,240 --> 00:41:03,060 She never showed up. 650 00:41:03,150 --> 00:41:04,890 She wasn't answering her phone. 651 00:41:04,980 --> 00:41:06,550 - Scott called me and said, 652 00:41:06,630 --> 00:41:08,070 "Mom's not answering her phone. 653 00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:10,720 It's hanged at the house." 654 00:41:10,810 --> 00:41:12,810 I was the first one there. 655 00:41:12,900 --> 00:41:15,340 I saw her feet sticking out on the other side of the bed. 656 00:41:15,420 --> 00:41:18,690 And she was on the floor with her arm over her face. 657 00:41:18,780 --> 00:41:22,170 I took her arm off, and it was just shock. 658 00:41:22,260 --> 00:41:24,000 Just stunned. 659 00:41:24,090 --> 00:41:26,440 It's terrible. 660 00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:28,440 - The CSI unit actually came, 661 00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:30,400 and detectives showed up as well. 662 00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:32,350 They inspected her fully, 663 00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:35,230 found no evidence of any struggle. 664 00:41:35,310 --> 00:41:38,100 - The police thought that she was all ready to go to church. 665 00:41:38,190 --> 00:41:40,540 She went and got in her car. She had a little nosebleed. 666 00:41:40,620 --> 00:41:43,540 - Which would explain the blood on the door. 667 00:41:43,630 --> 00:41:45,760 It almost looked like a palm print. 668 00:41:45,850 --> 00:41:47,892 - Or maybe she, you know, put her hand on the door 669 00:41:47,940 --> 00:41:49,550 and went in the bathroom. 670 00:41:49,630 --> 00:41:52,290 There was bloody Kleenex all over the place. 671 00:41:52,370 --> 00:41:54,860 - Probably the nosebleed was the beginning of an aneurysm 672 00:41:54,940 --> 00:41:57,510 and as she was walking back out, 673 00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:00,080 something popped, 674 00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:01,990 and she just fell to the ground 675 00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:05,300 and was dead almost instantaneously. 676 00:42:05,390 --> 00:42:07,650 That was the story. 677 00:42:07,740 --> 00:42:09,780 - Looking back, there were a lot of questions 678 00:42:09,870 --> 00:42:11,790 we should have asked. 679 00:42:11,870 --> 00:42:14,660 There was a cup of hot tea on the counter. 680 00:42:14,740 --> 00:42:16,400 Mom didn't drink hot tea. 681 00:42:16,490 --> 00:42:20,490 And then there was a broken jar underneath the sink. 682 00:42:20,580 --> 00:42:22,970 - She had a wedding ring that she never took off 683 00:42:23,060 --> 00:42:26,190 and a fashion ring that had been a gift from our father. 684 00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:27,540 We couldn't find her rings. 685 00:42:27,630 --> 00:42:29,720 - The bed was crooked a little bit. 686 00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:31,980 - Her comforter had some blood on it. 687 00:42:32,070 --> 00:42:36,680 - I saw a bloody fingerprint on the inside of her glasses. 688 00:42:36,770 --> 00:42:38,120 Where'd the blood come from? 689 00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:45,210 โ™ช โ™ช 690 00:42:45,300 --> 00:42:49,690 - We spent months grieving over a woman 691 00:42:49,780 --> 00:42:53,130 who died suddenly of natural causes. 692 00:42:53,220 --> 00:42:56,830 And you can build a story in your head that it was fast, 693 00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:58,440 it was peaceful. 694 00:43:01,660 --> 00:43:03,400 And then we get the paper delivered, 695 00:43:03,490 --> 00:43:06,230 "The Dallas Morning News." 696 00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:10,970 Front page is this story about this man that had basically 697 00:43:11,060 --> 00:43:13,930 stalked Lu Thi Harris, smothered her, 698 00:43:14,020 --> 00:43:15,850 and was caught with her jewelry. 699 00:43:15,940 --> 00:43:18,070 - We saw his picture and recognized him 700 00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:22,770 as Benjamin Koitaba, the caregiver for my father. 701 00:43:22,860 --> 00:43:24,380 - So that's the list of all the dates 702 00:43:24,470 --> 00:43:25,470 he was in there, right? 703 00:43:25,550 --> 00:43:30,820 12, 14, 16, 18, 704 00:43:30,910 --> 00:43:32,820 - 26 times. When was the first one? 705 00:43:32,910 --> 00:43:35,220 - October 18, 2016. 706 00:43:35,300 --> 00:43:38,050 And this is the last one, said Tuesday, January 3. 707 00:43:38,130 --> 00:43:39,390 - 2017. 708 00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:41,000 And he was waiting, right? 709 00:43:41,090 --> 00:43:44,360 He was waiting for Dad to die... 710 00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:45,970 he knew it was going to happen... 711 00:43:46,050 --> 00:43:48,190 and then he just killed her for $5,000. 712 00:43:48,270 --> 00:43:51,190 - Yeah, "Nobody will think it was me." 713 00:43:53,060 --> 00:43:56,540 - April 2018, we got a phone call 714 00:43:56,630 --> 00:43:58,630 from the Plano Police Department. 715 00:43:58,720 --> 00:44:00,630 - We had gone back to the house 716 00:44:00,720 --> 00:44:03,510 to reinvestigate Carol MacPhee. 717 00:44:03,590 --> 00:44:06,680 - Oddly enough, we still had the glasses with the blood on. 718 00:44:06,770 --> 00:44:08,340 Hadn't even cleaned them. 719 00:44:08,420 --> 00:44:11,250 We handed those over to the Plano Police Department. 720 00:44:11,340 --> 00:44:16,560 - Mrs. MacPhee's glasses had Chemirmir's DNA. 721 00:44:18,130 --> 00:44:22,130 - To find Billy's DNA on her glasses a year later, 722 00:44:22,220 --> 00:44:24,480 that was just incredible 723 00:44:24,570 --> 00:44:27,660 and really pushed everything towards the fact 724 00:44:27,750 --> 00:44:31,320 that he was this serial killer. 725 00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:35,450 Around the Christmas season, 2017, 726 00:44:35,540 --> 00:44:37,670 Chemirmir murdered three people, 727 00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:39,624 separate from independent living communities. 728 00:44:39,630 --> 00:44:41,280 Killed in their own home. 729 00:44:41,370 --> 00:44:43,020 The first was Carolyn McPhee. 730 00:44:43,110 --> 00:44:45,330 The second was Rosemary Curtis. 731 00:44:46,810 --> 00:44:49,120 - Rosemary Curtis also met Chemirmir 732 00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:51,070 through home health care. 733 00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:52,690 Margaret, Billy's girlfriend, 734 00:44:52,770 --> 00:44:56,340 had been a caregiver of their family. 735 00:44:56,430 --> 00:44:59,390 Detailed records show that Billy was in the area 736 00:44:59,470 --> 00:45:00,950 at the time of her death. 737 00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:02,830 - And then there's Mary Brooks. 738 00:45:04,260 --> 00:45:08,530 Mary Brooks was another victim that he stalked 739 00:45:08,610 --> 00:45:12,530 and hunted at the same Walmart on Coit and Arapaho 740 00:45:12,620 --> 00:45:14,490 in Dallas. 741 00:45:14,580 --> 00:45:17,490 You can actually see from the surveillance footage 742 00:45:17,580 --> 00:45:21,670 Chemirmir following her car out of the parking lot 743 00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:25,980 of the Walmart to her house. 744 00:45:30,330 --> 00:45:31,539 - He ended up murdering her. 745 00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:38,250 - The magnitude of victims was overwhelming. 746 00:45:38,340 --> 00:45:41,950 - The scope of the investigation was massive. 747 00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:45,690 - It's like a scene right out of a crime drama. 748 00:45:45,780 --> 00:45:47,440 Homicide detectives now exhuming a body 749 00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:49,610 from a Dallas cemetery. 750 00:45:49,700 --> 00:45:51,920 - They exhumed my mother's body. 751 00:45:52,010 --> 00:45:54,220 They found bruising on her wrists 752 00:45:54,310 --> 00:45:58,050 that looked like could have been from being held down. 753 00:45:58,140 --> 00:46:01,360 - It reveals the lengths a task force is going to 754 00:46:01,450 --> 00:46:05,850 to determine if Billy Chemirmir is a serial killer. 755 00:46:05,930 --> 00:46:08,330 - We went where the evidence was taking us. 756 00:46:08,410 --> 00:46:11,110 We had several different detectives calling families 757 00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:13,330 to tell them we were investigating their case 758 00:46:13,420 --> 00:46:14,420 as a possible homicide. 759 00:46:16,420 --> 00:46:20,030 - I was walking to class one day, 760 00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:22,640 and I receive a call from a detective 761 00:46:22,730 --> 00:46:25,470 asking about my grammy's death. 762 00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:45,150 - Knowing about the crimes Billy had been arrested for, 763 00:46:45,230 --> 00:46:47,230 I started thinking, but what if this 764 00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:49,410 wasn't a natural death? 765 00:46:49,500 --> 00:46:53,070 My mom went back and looked at all the pillowcases, 766 00:46:53,150 --> 00:46:57,030 and on one, she found a lipstick smudge. 767 00:46:57,110 --> 00:47:00,070 It just all began to make sense. 768 00:47:02,030 --> 00:47:05,820 - I'm looking at a Yelp review, of all things, 769 00:47:05,910 --> 00:47:08,120 from a lady named Shannon Dion. 770 00:47:08,210 --> 00:47:09,684 Turns out her mother, Doris Gleason, 771 00:47:09,690 --> 00:47:12,090 was a resident of Traditions. 772 00:47:12,170 --> 00:47:15,830 This Yelp review detailed exactly the pattern 773 00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:19,140 for Billy Chemirmir's murders. 774 00:47:19,220 --> 00:47:21,920 - Detective Hoffman called me and he said, 775 00:47:22,010 --> 00:47:23,920 "I want you to Google Billy Chemirmir." 776 00:47:26,930 --> 00:47:31,450 "Your mother's death is being investigated as a homicide." 777 00:47:31,540 --> 00:47:35,280 - From the beginning, she wanted justice on this. 778 00:47:35,370 --> 00:47:38,020 She knew something was wrong, 779 00:47:38,110 --> 00:47:40,290 and finally, she's being listened to. 780 00:47:43,250 --> 00:47:46,210 - Just in talking with Detective Hoffman, 781 00:47:46,290 --> 00:47:52,390 he recognized my anger and frustration and sorrow 782 00:47:52,470 --> 00:47:54,560 and that something had to change. 783 00:47:57,910 --> 00:48:02,310 Tradition Prestonwood, Edgemere, 784 00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:04,660 Preston Place, 785 00:48:04,750 --> 00:48:06,440 every single one of these places, 786 00:48:06,530 --> 00:48:08,710 they're all the same. 787 00:48:08,790 --> 00:48:12,100 They all could have prevented so many deaths. 788 00:48:12,190 --> 00:48:16,020 Furthermore, there are a lot more murders 789 00:48:16,110 --> 00:48:17,110 than you know about. 790 00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:23,370 - Sit pretty. 791 00:48:23,460 --> 00:48:25,380 There you go. 792 00:48:25,460 --> 00:48:28,900 You know, I'm 85 and I've lost a lot of friends. 793 00:48:28,990 --> 00:48:30,160 Good. 794 00:48:30,250 --> 00:48:31,770 But when we found out 795 00:48:31,860 --> 00:48:34,210 that someone had killed these ladies, 796 00:48:34,300 --> 00:48:36,040 we were just shocked. 797 00:48:38,740 --> 00:48:42,090 - Preston Place was the second largest 798 00:48:42,180 --> 00:48:44,310 hunting ground for Chemirmir. 799 00:48:44,390 --> 00:48:45,870 He murdered seven people there 800 00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:48,180 in a very short period of time. 801 00:48:48,270 --> 00:48:51,230 - Around the time that these murders were happening 802 00:48:51,310 --> 00:48:52,930 at Preston Place, 803 00:48:53,010 --> 00:48:54,540 the rumor mill was starting to turn, 804 00:48:54,620 --> 00:48:56,360 and some of these people were friends. 805 00:48:56,450 --> 00:48:59,670 - Chemirmir killed Diane. 806 00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:01,890 Diane and I were really close. 807 00:49:01,980 --> 00:49:05,110 - My mother was such a social butterfly. 808 00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:07,330 The ladies got together and started doing 809 00:49:07,420 --> 00:49:09,720 monthly birthdays and happy hour. 810 00:49:09,810 --> 00:49:14,210 - We had T-shirts that said, "Who let the girls out?" 811 00:49:14,290 --> 00:49:16,640 By no means was Diane ready to die. 812 00:49:20,690 --> 00:49:25,830 - I found her body on the floor in the bedroom. 813 00:49:25,910 --> 00:49:30,750 She had a knot on her forehead the size of a tennis ball. 814 00:49:30,830 --> 00:49:33,570 Dottie, her dog, was just going postal. 815 00:49:33,660 --> 00:49:36,140 And my mother's engagement ring, wedding band, 816 00:49:36,230 --> 00:49:37,930 and her 50th anniversary gold band, 817 00:49:38,010 --> 00:49:40,320 they're missing. 818 00:49:40,410 --> 00:49:43,760 - Diane lived just across the breezeway 819 00:49:43,850 --> 00:49:46,110 and one apartment down. 820 00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:50,030 This was Diane's apartment. 821 00:49:50,110 --> 00:49:52,720 My theory is that he was waiting 822 00:49:52,810 --> 00:49:54,810 in this stairwell down here. 823 00:49:54,900 --> 00:49:56,770 - We had gone for a late lunch. 824 00:49:56,860 --> 00:50:00,990 And what I was told was that after I dropped her off, 825 00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:02,950 Billy Chemirmir was at the complex. 826 00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:06,560 - She would have brought her dog this way 827 00:50:06,650 --> 00:50:09,830 and gone down these stairs to let it go to the bathroom, 828 00:50:09,910 --> 00:50:12,220 and then back up to her apartment. 829 00:50:12,310 --> 00:50:15,050 - I figured he followed her up. 830 00:50:15,140 --> 00:50:17,490 And when she turned around to close the door, 831 00:50:17,570 --> 00:50:20,490 he slammed the door in her face 832 00:50:20,580 --> 00:50:23,150 and then proceeded to kill her. 833 00:50:23,230 --> 00:50:25,190 - I think he made a mistake with Diane. 834 00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:27,060 She was tough. 835 00:50:27,150 --> 00:50:28,442 I think she really fought him. 836 00:50:33,550 --> 00:50:38,600 - So we have a cluster of deaths at Preston Place, 837 00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:41,770 starting with Diane Delahunty. 838 00:50:41,860 --> 00:50:44,990 - Chemirmir was murdering women at Preston Place 839 00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:47,390 at a rate that is shocking. 840 00:50:50,130 --> 00:50:51,910 - I found my mom on Tuesday. 841 00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:55,570 Friday, there's another crime scene truck 842 00:50:55,660 --> 00:50:59,090 there at Preston Place, another one of his victims. 843 00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:05,840 - In that one week in December, Diane Delahunty, 844 00:51:05,930 --> 00:51:08,280 Mamie Dell Miya, and a third woman 845 00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:12,410 never identified publicly all were murdered. 846 00:51:12,500 --> 00:51:15,500 - You keep track of the people, the dates of their death, 847 00:51:15,590 --> 00:51:19,200 pretty soon you get to suspect that it might be murder. 848 00:51:19,290 --> 00:51:22,070 We connected the dots first with Diane. 849 00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:24,820 - That's when we started really adding it up. 850 00:51:27,780 --> 00:51:31,340 - It's heartbreaking, and it was totally preventable. 851 00:51:33,430 --> 00:51:35,139 Before any victims were murdered there, 852 00:51:35,220 --> 00:51:38,090 the resident council of Preston Place 853 00:51:38,180 --> 00:51:41,400 started raising major concerns about known defects 854 00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:44,400 in the security, gates that aren't working, 855 00:51:44,490 --> 00:51:47,100 and suspicious activity on the premises. 856 00:51:47,190 --> 00:51:48,750 - I was on residents' council. 857 00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:51,630 I represented building 10. 858 00:51:51,710 --> 00:51:55,670 In May of 2017, I passed out a survey 859 00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:59,020 asking how you feel about cameras. 860 00:52:01,720 --> 00:52:04,550 "Cars have been broken into, 861 00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:06,940 "persons observed climbing over the fence, 862 00:52:07,030 --> 00:52:09,690 "and jewelry stolen from apartments. 863 00:52:09,770 --> 00:52:12,600 "Do you think security cameras would help? 864 00:52:12,690 --> 00:52:14,600 Yes or no." 865 00:52:14,690 --> 00:52:16,300 All ten said yes. 866 00:52:16,390 --> 00:52:18,830 - They're literally begging Preston Place 867 00:52:18,910 --> 00:52:20,960 to take action to make them safe, 868 00:52:21,050 --> 00:52:23,700 and it is completely ignored. 869 00:52:23,790 --> 00:52:28,360 - After the survey, I wrote a letter to management. 870 00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:32,710 "Preston Place is a home to people of advanced age, 871 00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:34,620 "which makes us more vulnerable. 872 00:52:34,710 --> 00:52:37,980 "Cameras would be a deterrent to those intent 873 00:52:38,060 --> 00:52:40,980 on doing wrongful actions." 874 00:52:41,070 --> 00:52:44,200 I never received any response to this letter. 875 00:52:45,940 --> 00:52:47,510 - They just blew it off 876 00:52:47,590 --> 00:52:49,510 when they were talking about security. 877 00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:51,900 It was like, "We don't have a problem." 878 00:52:51,990 --> 00:52:54,820 - This was my mother. 879 00:52:54,910 --> 00:52:57,260 You only get one. 880 00:52:57,340 --> 00:53:01,040 I'm upset with their dismissive behavior. 881 00:53:01,130 --> 00:53:02,830 Their residents were telling them, 882 00:53:02,910 --> 00:53:05,960 "Hey, there's somebody lurking around. 883 00:53:06,050 --> 00:53:09,180 We have trespassers. We have robberies." 884 00:53:09,270 --> 00:53:12,580 Why didn't they raise a red flag 885 00:53:12,660 --> 00:53:16,190 to notify all the residents to be aware? 886 00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:18,280 It angers me. 887 00:53:32,550 --> 00:53:35,470 - There's absolutely moments in time that could have put 888 00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:38,990 an end to all of this very, very easily. 889 00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:42,560 And it starts with disclosure by all 890 00:53:42,650 --> 00:53:45,000 of these different independent living communities 891 00:53:45,090 --> 00:53:46,340 at the time this is occurring. 892 00:53:51,310 --> 00:53:53,530 This is my black binder, 893 00:53:53,620 --> 00:53:56,010 information as it pertains to my mom. 894 00:53:58,100 --> 00:54:01,450 These are pictures I took of Parkview. 895 00:54:01,540 --> 00:54:04,320 This is the security gate which on several occasions 896 00:54:04,410 --> 00:54:06,850 was broken or not closed all the way. 897 00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:10,290 Chemirmir was entering the building 898 00:54:10,370 --> 00:54:15,160 through the side door, closest to my mom. 899 00:54:15,250 --> 00:54:17,900 This door led right to her unit. 900 00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:21,860 You know, he could sit in the car and just stalk 901 00:54:21,950 --> 00:54:24,130 whoever was coming in and out. 902 00:54:27,350 --> 00:54:28,740 There were a couple occasions 903 00:54:28,830 --> 00:54:30,780 where the door wouldn't engage all the way. 904 00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:37,970 This is a roll of electrical tape. 905 00:54:38,050 --> 00:54:40,970 Oftentimes people would just prop the door open. 906 00:54:41,060 --> 00:54:43,490 Wasn't hard for Chemirmir to gain access. 907 00:54:43,580 --> 00:54:45,490 Rocks in the door. 908 00:54:47,500 --> 00:54:51,500 My mom's front door, about ten steps. 909 00:54:51,590 --> 00:54:53,720 This was the perspective from her front door 910 00:54:53,810 --> 00:54:54,720 to the stairwell. 911 00:54:54,810 --> 00:54:58,290 โ™ช โ™ช 912 00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:02,244 And it's believed that that's the stairwell that he used 913 00:55:02,250 --> 00:55:03,820 to get up to the third floor 914 00:55:03,900 --> 00:55:08,690 where my mom's best friend, Helen Lee, lived. 915 00:55:08,780 --> 00:55:12,130 This is how my mom was murdered. 916 00:55:14,570 --> 00:55:16,310 I went to Parkview and I said, 917 00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:20,140 "What do you know about some list 918 00:55:20,220 --> 00:55:22,440 "that has my mom 919 00:55:22,530 --> 00:55:26,360 and Helen as victims of Billy Chemirmir?" 920 00:55:26,450 --> 00:55:28,840 I was told that what happened to my mom 921 00:55:28,930 --> 00:55:32,110 and Helen had nothing to do with Billy Chemirmir, 922 00:55:32,190 --> 00:55:35,370 that he was only in the building one time. 923 00:55:35,460 --> 00:55:37,720 And that's when I found out about Kay Lawson. 924 00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:43,990 - This attack, am I correct that that was a Sunday? 925 00:55:44,070 --> 00:55:45,250 - Yes, it was a Sunday. 926 00:55:50,650 --> 00:55:52,430 - Kill me, rape me, I didn't have any idea 927 00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:53,560 what he was going to do. 928 00:55:55,220 --> 00:56:00,090 - Sunday, October 29, 2017, 929 00:56:00,180 --> 00:56:03,570 my mother was waiting for a visit from her grandson. 930 00:56:03,660 --> 00:56:06,140 - My apartment was right by the elevator, 931 00:56:06,230 --> 00:56:08,400 and I was going to go out and meet Danny. 932 00:56:08,490 --> 00:56:11,230 - Out in the hallway, she saw a man. 933 00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:13,630 He was nicely dressed. 934 00:56:13,710 --> 00:56:16,320 - Talked to him, told him I was waiting for my grandson. 935 00:56:16,410 --> 00:56:18,160 - They had about a ten-minute conversation. 936 00:56:18,240 --> 00:56:21,460 - Then Danny came and we went in and locked the door. 937 00:56:21,550 --> 00:56:24,770 - Chemirmir just loitered until her grandson left. 938 00:56:24,850 --> 00:56:29,290 - Danny was gone maybe ten minutes or so 939 00:56:29,380 --> 00:56:30,690 when the knock came on the door. 940 00:56:33,470 --> 00:56:35,740 The little peephole was too high, 941 00:56:35,820 --> 00:56:41,180 and so I unwittingly opened the door a little bit. 942 00:56:41,260 --> 00:56:45,880 - There stood the man she had seen in the hall. 943 00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:51,050 - He proceeded to knock me down from my walker. 944 00:56:53,010 --> 00:56:55,150 He dragged me into the living room. 945 00:56:55,230 --> 00:56:59,060 I was thinking to myself, "This can't be happening." 946 00:56:59,150 --> 00:57:01,020 He proceeded to suffocate me. 947 00:57:01,110 --> 00:57:04,940 - She was on her belly but she was able to get some air. 948 00:57:05,030 --> 00:57:08,200 - All of a sudden out of my mouth came, 949 00:57:08,290 --> 00:57:09,290 "Dear Heavenly Father." 950 00:57:11,550 --> 00:57:13,160 I don't know how long I was down, 951 00:57:13,250 --> 00:57:16,210 but pretty soon, he left me. 952 00:57:16,300 --> 00:57:19,740 I didn't move from then on. 953 00:57:19,820 --> 00:57:23,830 He left, but she kept playing dead. 954 00:57:23,910 --> 00:57:27,610 And it was a good thing she did because he came back. 955 00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:32,880 It turns out he had dropped a little cowbell charm 956 00:57:32,970 --> 00:57:36,490 that her mother had given my father. 957 00:57:38,670 --> 00:57:41,630 Eventually, he did leave and not come back. 958 00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:50,240 - Kay Lawson was the first person that we know of 959 00:57:50,330 --> 00:57:53,330 to survive Billy Chemirmir. 960 00:57:53,420 --> 00:57:55,550 This was four and a half months 961 00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:57,820 prior to the attack on Mary Bartel. 962 00:57:57,900 --> 00:57:59,650 - She had bruises and abrasions 963 00:57:59,730 --> 00:58:01,690 down the right side of her face 964 00:58:01,780 --> 00:58:03,650 and a little bit on one of her arms. 965 00:58:03,740 --> 00:58:06,220 But she was a tough old Iowa farm girl. 966 00:58:06,300 --> 00:58:07,780 She had survived. 967 00:58:07,870 --> 00:58:10,220 - It was so awful. 968 00:58:10,310 --> 00:58:12,570 I can't tell you how bad it was. 969 00:58:12,660 --> 00:58:17,180 - Kay's experience was six weeks after my mom, 970 00:58:17,270 --> 00:58:19,100 eight weeks after Helen. 971 00:58:19,190 --> 00:58:22,670 - My mother's case was very important 972 00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:24,760 because she was a conscious witness. 973 00:58:27,980 --> 00:58:31,940 - The police did take a pillow from her apartment, 974 00:58:32,030 --> 00:58:34,810 sent it out for DNA testing. 975 00:58:34,900 --> 00:58:37,940 They get the DNA back within three weeks, 976 00:58:38,030 --> 00:58:41,730 and they knew it belonged to an African American male, 977 00:58:41,820 --> 00:58:44,210 but they were not able to match it to somebody. 978 00:58:44,300 --> 00:58:47,300 So it sat on the desk. 979 00:58:47,390 --> 00:58:49,960 - That was in 2017, 980 00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:54,440 and that investigation kind of just dies on the vine 981 00:58:54,530 --> 00:58:58,490 and he continues murdering people. 982 00:58:58,570 --> 00:59:00,360 At least 11 more people were murdered. 983 00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:06,710 - March 2018, as they were getting ready 984 00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:09,850 to make an arrest, they showed my mom a panel 985 00:59:09,930 --> 00:59:11,670 of several photographs. 986 00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:21,680 - And she said yes. 987 00:59:23,860 --> 00:59:24,860 - "Number four." 988 00:59:26,860 --> 00:59:28,820 - "That looks like him." 989 01:00:01,510 --> 01:00:03,550 - When Chemirmir was arrested, 990 01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:05,680 Frisco was able to confirm 991 01:00:05,770 --> 01:00:09,990 that Chemirmir's DNA was on the pillow. 992 01:00:10,080 --> 01:00:13,610 - It was shocking, during those four and a half months 993 01:00:13,690 --> 01:00:17,740 between her attack and his arrest, 994 01:00:17,830 --> 01:00:21,220 he was leaving corpses all over North Texas. 995 01:00:28,320 --> 01:00:30,620 - Justice needs to be served. 996 01:00:30,710 --> 01:00:32,800 - A whistleblower within the Tradition 997 01:00:32,890 --> 01:00:34,494 took it upon herself to call him in jail. 998 01:00:34,500 --> 01:00:39,720 - You just are blown away with all the cover-up. 999 01:00:39,810 --> 01:00:42,330 - When they gave me the Google data, 1000 01:00:42,420 --> 01:00:45,030 I was sick for a week. 1001 01:00:45,110 --> 01:00:46,324 - The trial of Billy Chemirmir 1002 01:00:46,330 --> 01:00:47,940 starts in just a couple of hours. 1003 01:00:48,030 --> 01:00:50,210 - There was just one person who wouldn't move on it. 1004 01:00:50,290 --> 01:00:52,820 - He was just smirking. 1005 01:00:52,910 --> 01:00:57,780 - Rot in hell, you piece of shit. 1006 01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:04,040 - Rot in hell, you piece of shit. 121484

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