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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:06,397 --> 00:00:10,271 [ominous music] 2 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:46,655 Mother pus bucket. 3 00:00:46,655 --> 00:00:48,657 JONAH RAY: The whole thing about horror comedies 4 00:00:48,657 --> 00:00:50,224 is that they shouldn't work. 5 00:00:50,224 --> 00:00:51,790 People try to make them all the time, 6 00:00:51,790 --> 00:00:54,271 but, like, they rarely are ever good. 7 00:00:54,271 --> 00:00:57,231 It's like, you know, two great taste that taste great together. 8 00:00:57,231 --> 00:00:58,841 My vegetable medley. 9 00:00:58,841 --> 00:01:01,931 JONAH RAY: But sometimes it's just much of both things. 10 00:01:01,931 --> 00:01:05,065 ALEX: Scientists talk about laughter having come originally 11 00:01:05,065 --> 00:01:08,198 from a fear response as a way of mitigating 12 00:01:08,198 --> 00:01:13,682 fear or shock, a negative, as opposed to a joyful thing. 13 00:01:13,682 --> 00:01:16,163 And I think maybe that's why I like horror comedies that 14 00:01:16,163 --> 00:01:17,729 destabilize me in that way. 15 00:01:17,729 --> 00:01:19,427 And I think that a really good horror 16 00:01:19,427 --> 00:01:21,777 filmmaker knows that they kind of have 17 00:01:21,777 --> 00:01:24,171 you riding the line of a laugh. 18 00:01:24,171 --> 00:01:25,520 MICHAEL: They're not for everybody. 19 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:26,825 Samba. 20 00:01:26,825 --> 00:01:29,263 MICHAEL: But I find that the people who 21 00:01:29,263 --> 00:01:31,917 understand and enjoy horror comedies 22 00:01:31,917 --> 00:01:33,876 are the best kinds of horror fans. 23 00:01:33,876 --> 00:01:35,791 What are the must-see horror comedies? 24 00:01:39,751 --> 00:01:43,190 The Necronomicon Ex-mortis, roughly 25 00:01:43,190 --> 00:01:45,975 translated book of the dead. 26 00:01:45,975 --> 00:01:48,325 For me, the greatest horror comedy of all time 27 00:01:48,325 --> 00:01:51,198 is Evil Dead II, which is a masterpiece, 28 00:01:51,198 --> 00:01:54,592 and one of the most influential films of the modern film era. 29 00:01:54,592 --> 00:01:58,509 TED: Splatstick is a term coined by Sam Ramey, talking about, 30 00:01:58,509 --> 00:02:00,946 like, it's so gory that it becomes the Three Stooges. 31 00:02:00,946 --> 00:02:03,079 I mean, essentially, Evil Dead II 32 00:02:03,079 --> 00:02:06,038 is just one big Three Stooges bit for 90 minutes 33 00:02:06,038 --> 00:02:07,475 and tons and tons of blood. 34 00:02:07,562 --> 00:02:10,478 PATRICK: The movie will veer between genuine scares 35 00:02:10,478 --> 00:02:14,525 and, like, real suspense, and astonishing physical comedy, 36 00:02:14,525 --> 00:02:16,092 like seconds apart. 37 00:02:16,092 --> 00:02:19,704 The perfect representation is when Bruce Campbell goes 38 00:02:19,704 --> 00:02:22,229 to the woodshed looking for some kind of weapon, 39 00:02:22,229 --> 00:02:24,274 and he pulls back a curtain. 40 00:02:24,274 --> 00:02:25,275 And on a shelf-- 41 00:02:25,275 --> 00:02:26,798 ASH: Chainsaw. 42 00:02:26,798 --> 00:02:30,498 They have drawn on the wall an outline of a chainsaw 43 00:02:30,498 --> 00:02:33,805 to indicate where a chainsaw should go, but it's not there. 44 00:02:33,805 --> 00:02:35,677 And so you have this funny, little sight gag. 45 00:02:35,677 --> 00:02:38,810 And then, suddenly, the door gets kicked in, 46 00:02:38,810 --> 00:02:42,336 and the decapitated corpse of his girlfriend 47 00:02:42,336 --> 00:02:45,861 charges in with a chainsaw, attacking him with it. 48 00:02:45,861 --> 00:02:47,906 And he manages to knock it out of her hands 49 00:02:47,906 --> 00:02:51,823 and then saws the body in half while blood sprays 50 00:02:51,823 --> 00:02:54,522 up, like, onto the light bulb in the room, 51 00:02:54,522 --> 00:02:56,828 just like casting the entire thing bright red. 52 00:02:56,828 --> 00:03:00,397 And it has this gonzo energy that few other movies 53 00:03:00,397 --> 00:03:02,182 ever made managed to have. 54 00:03:02,182 --> 00:03:05,402 [demonic laugh] 55 00:03:07,361 --> 00:03:09,450 RICKY: I feel so bad for what happens 56 00:03:09,450 --> 00:03:11,060 to Ash throughout that movie, but I 57 00:03:11,060 --> 00:03:13,758 have so much fun watching it. 58 00:03:13,758 --> 00:03:16,457 He's such a great crier to the heavens. 59 00:03:16,457 --> 00:03:17,806 [laughs] 60 00:03:17,806 --> 00:03:20,591 [CRYING] Get me back my hand. 61 00:03:20,591 --> 00:03:23,638 RICKY: Every time something horrible happens in that movie, 62 00:03:23,638 --> 00:03:25,117 he just, like, falls on his knees 63 00:03:25,117 --> 00:03:28,164 and cries to the heaven asking why, why. 64 00:03:28,164 --> 00:03:30,819 You just feel for him so much, you know. 65 00:03:30,819 --> 00:03:33,213 [groaning] 66 00:03:33,213 --> 00:03:35,302 Who's laughing now? 67 00:03:35,302 --> 00:03:38,087 I think Evil Dead II is so funny 68 00:03:38,087 --> 00:03:40,698 because it's just constantly surprising and inventive. 69 00:03:40,698 --> 00:03:42,700 All of the work that they do with the hand, 70 00:03:42,700 --> 00:03:45,834 with the chainsaw, with the various zombies that show up, 71 00:03:45,834 --> 00:03:48,880 how they show up, the sort of subject 72 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:51,100 use of the camera, where it's really 73 00:03:51,100 --> 00:03:53,407 barreling along through the woods at 100 miles an hour. 74 00:03:53,407 --> 00:03:55,278 And you don't know where it's going to end up. 75 00:03:55,278 --> 00:03:57,106 And you're kind of the bad guy for a moment. 76 00:03:57,106 --> 00:04:01,458 And then, like, to get a joke out of it, at one point, 77 00:04:01,458 --> 00:04:03,373 Demon doesn't know where Ash is. 78 00:04:03,373 --> 00:04:04,896 It's just kind of like looks around, 79 00:04:04,896 --> 00:04:06,985 like, where did that dude go? 80 00:04:06,985 --> 00:04:08,378 I'll be back, dawg. 81 00:04:08,378 --> 00:04:09,597 I'll be back. 82 00:04:09,597 --> 00:04:12,252 And just pulls right back out of there. 83 00:04:12,252 --> 00:04:17,039 The masterwork of Evil Dead II is the combination 84 00:04:17,039 --> 00:04:22,349 of Raimi's cinematic genius and Bruce's physical comic prowess. 85 00:04:22,349 --> 00:04:24,264 I mean, I don't think it's overstating it to say. 86 00:04:24,264 --> 00:04:26,091 Like, it works like a Buster Keaton movie. 87 00:04:26,091 --> 00:04:29,486 It works like any classic film involving a kind 88 00:04:29,486 --> 00:04:32,620 of theatrical performance. 89 00:04:32,620 --> 00:04:34,709 But then you have this extremely sophisticated, 90 00:04:34,709 --> 00:04:37,146 modern, cinematic approach. 91 00:04:37,146 --> 00:04:40,671 It's a masterful combination of kinetic camera 92 00:04:40,671 --> 00:04:41,977 work with kinetic performance. 93 00:04:41,977 --> 00:04:45,197 [demonic laughter] 94 00:04:45,197 --> 00:04:48,157 PATRICK: Unsurprisingly, given my love of Evil Dead II, 95 00:04:48,157 --> 00:04:50,159 I really love Dead Alive. 96 00:04:50,159 --> 00:04:54,468 TED: Dead Alive is a splatstick movie. 97 00:04:54,468 --> 00:04:58,210 It's essentially Raimi up to 100, 98 00:04:58,210 --> 00:05:00,778 and it goes so over the top. 99 00:05:00,778 --> 00:05:02,824 It's never not funny. 100 00:05:02,824 --> 00:05:06,741 There's like a glee to that movie of just like 101 00:05:06,741 --> 00:05:09,396 what he's getting away with. 102 00:05:09,396 --> 00:05:12,355 Taking, like, what is on paper a horror story, but just, like, 103 00:05:12,355 --> 00:05:15,140 cranking every element way up until it 104 00:05:15,140 --> 00:05:17,926 reaches like these insane cartoonish levels and just 105 00:05:17,926 --> 00:05:19,319 becomes funny. 106 00:05:21,930 --> 00:05:22,931 Oh! 107 00:05:22,931 --> 00:05:24,367 I just mowed the lawn. 108 00:05:24,367 --> 00:05:29,241 Does this look like a well-maintained frontage? 109 00:05:29,241 --> 00:05:30,634 TED: You have this really twisted 110 00:05:30,634 --> 00:05:31,983 mother-and-son relationship that's 111 00:05:31,983 --> 00:05:33,420 kind of at the heart of the movie, 112 00:05:33,420 --> 00:05:35,422 and it sort of deals that sort of, like, 113 00:05:35,422 --> 00:05:39,513 not being able to cut the purse strings, you might say. 114 00:05:39,513 --> 00:05:41,253 But it keeps getting worse and worse and worse. 115 00:05:41,253 --> 00:05:42,254 Oh! 116 00:05:42,254 --> 00:05:43,691 Oh. 117 00:05:43,691 --> 00:05:46,084 [yelling] 118 00:05:46,084 --> 00:05:47,782 Mom. 119 00:05:47,782 --> 00:05:52,526 The protagonist mother has been bitten, and she's infected. 120 00:05:52,526 --> 00:05:55,006 And she's slowly turning into a kind of a zombie creature. 121 00:05:55,006 --> 00:05:56,660 And they're having this little meal. 122 00:05:56,660 --> 00:06:00,490 And she's eating this kind of disgusting-looking custard. 123 00:06:00,490 --> 00:06:03,450 And her ears slowly falling apart 124 00:06:03,450 --> 00:06:05,321 and falls into the custard. 125 00:06:05,321 --> 00:06:06,844 And her earring gets stuck in there. 126 00:06:06,844 --> 00:06:08,106 And she keeps eating. 127 00:06:08,106 --> 00:06:10,326 And she's just completely oblivious to it. 128 00:06:13,590 --> 00:06:14,983 It's just so, so gross. 129 00:06:14,983 --> 00:06:16,332 [chuckles] 130 00:06:16,332 --> 00:06:17,725 TRACEY: And then when the infection just 131 00:06:17,725 --> 00:06:22,120 grows to everybody in her circle, it just-- 132 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:24,514 it's one of the grossest movies I think I ever saw right 133 00:06:24,514 --> 00:06:26,908 off the bat, but it's also one of the most 134 00:06:26,908 --> 00:06:31,826 funniest movies you've ever seen right off the bat. 135 00:06:31,826 --> 00:06:34,568 HOWARD: I just loved the last half hour. 136 00:06:34,568 --> 00:06:36,439 I don't think I've ever seen anything even like it 137 00:06:36,439 --> 00:06:37,309 since then. 138 00:06:40,922 --> 00:06:44,447 It's like a ballet of bodies being Cuisinarted. 139 00:06:49,974 --> 00:06:52,020 At the time, I think there probably was just 140 00:06:52,020 --> 00:06:54,283 the wettest movie ever made. 141 00:06:54,283 --> 00:06:56,807 I mean, the amount of fluid that gets dumped all over the cast 142 00:06:56,807 --> 00:06:59,680 in that movie, it outdoes the first Evil Dead. 143 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:02,596 It's so choreographed. 144 00:07:02,596 --> 00:07:03,771 It's like a musical. 145 00:07:03,771 --> 00:07:05,555 It's like lavish dance numbers. 146 00:07:05,555 --> 00:07:08,253 It's just brilliant, brilliant movie. 147 00:07:08,253 --> 00:07:11,300 [high-pitched laugh] 148 00:07:11,300 --> 00:07:14,738 JOE: Stuart Gordon's e-Animator, well, it's probably 149 00:07:14,738 --> 00:07:19,047 the best Lovecraft adaptation. 150 00:07:19,047 --> 00:07:21,441 It's certainly the funniest. 151 00:07:21,441 --> 00:07:24,052 It's absolutely the most fucked up. 152 00:07:24,052 --> 00:07:25,619 [growls] 153 00:07:25,619 --> 00:07:28,796 That was one that I think kicked out a lot of doors. 154 00:07:28,796 --> 00:07:29,971 It was unrated. 155 00:07:29,971 --> 00:07:31,581 No one under 17 admitted. 156 00:07:31,581 --> 00:07:33,409 And it showed just how far you could 157 00:07:33,409 --> 00:07:36,020 go with the mixture of comedy and horror 158 00:07:36,020 --> 00:07:39,241 and gore, but also have a really smart, well-crafted, well-acted 159 00:07:39,241 --> 00:07:40,372 film as well. 160 00:07:40,372 --> 00:07:41,243 MAN: Didn't we meet this morning? 161 00:07:41,243 --> 00:07:41,896 You're-- 162 00:07:41,896 --> 00:07:42,897 West. 163 00:07:42,897 --> 00:07:44,072 Herbert West. 164 00:07:44,072 --> 00:07:46,248 Jeffrey Combs plays Herbert West, 165 00:07:46,248 --> 00:07:51,209 and he's up to some secret stuff. 166 00:07:51,209 --> 00:07:54,517 He has discovered a special serum that 167 00:07:54,517 --> 00:07:56,258 brings the dead back to life. 168 00:07:56,258 --> 00:07:57,085 Stop. 169 00:07:57,085 --> 00:07:58,695 I'll show you. 170 00:07:58,695 --> 00:08:03,570 They start off by using it on our main character's cat, 171 00:08:03,570 --> 00:08:07,530 but that goes awry. 172 00:08:07,530 --> 00:08:12,274 And soon enough, they're using it on humans, including 173 00:08:12,274 --> 00:08:13,928 one of their professors. 174 00:08:13,928 --> 00:08:17,714 Your theory on the location of the will and the brain is 175 00:08:17,714 --> 00:08:21,196 interesting, though derivative of Dr. Gruber's research 176 00:08:21,196 --> 00:08:22,502 in the early '70s. 177 00:08:22,502 --> 00:08:24,112 So derivative, in fact, that in Europe, 178 00:08:24,112 --> 00:08:25,461 it's considered plagiarized. 179 00:08:25,809 --> 00:08:29,334 Dr. West and Dr. Hill are two sides of the same coin. 180 00:08:29,334 --> 00:08:31,119 Perhaps it take-- 181 00:08:31,119 --> 00:08:34,209 CHELSEA: That's what makes them such good foils for each other. 182 00:08:34,209 --> 00:08:36,690 They are both kind of married to science in a sense, 183 00:08:36,690 --> 00:08:39,170 but they have very different relationships with it. 184 00:08:39,170 --> 00:08:42,260 I will be famous. 185 00:08:47,091 --> 00:08:50,573 DANA: So much of Re-Animator is just Jeffrey Combs. 186 00:08:50,573 --> 00:08:51,966 Plagiarist. 187 00:08:51,966 --> 00:08:57,101 DANA: He is so much intensity, and those eyes 188 00:08:57,101 --> 00:08:59,408 are always working. 189 00:08:59,408 --> 00:09:02,498 That performance takes that movie to a place 190 00:09:02,498 --> 00:09:03,499 where it shouldn't be. 191 00:09:03,499 --> 00:09:07,111 [laughing] 192 00:09:08,591 --> 00:09:10,724 DANA: And then there are scenes in that movie 193 00:09:10,724 --> 00:09:13,335 that go places where you can't imagine they're going. 194 00:09:13,335 --> 00:09:16,033 You know what I'm talking about. 195 00:09:16,033 --> 00:09:19,210 MICHAEL: You're just sitting there going, what am I watching? 196 00:09:19,210 --> 00:09:20,211 Who thought this up? 197 00:09:20,211 --> 00:09:21,561 This is insane. 198 00:09:21,561 --> 00:09:23,824 And yet it is all of a piece of the story. 199 00:09:23,824 --> 00:09:26,304 It follows from what we know about the characters 200 00:09:26,304 --> 00:09:29,046 and Dr. Hill's lust for Barbara Crampton's character. 201 00:09:29,046 --> 00:09:31,614 And it just takes it to the ultimate level. 202 00:09:31,614 --> 00:09:34,748 Gordon wanted to take us places we had not gone before. 203 00:09:34,748 --> 00:09:38,099 [yelling] 204 00:09:38,099 --> 00:09:42,320 You know, he wanted to upend our normal expectations 205 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:45,236 for a horror film or for a comedy, 206 00:09:45,236 --> 00:09:47,499 and he never did it more brilliantly 207 00:09:47,499 --> 00:09:49,197 than he did in Re-Animator. 208 00:09:50,764 --> 00:09:53,114 [projector whirring] 209 00:09:59,990 --> 00:10:04,647 The end of the world is going to happen, you jerks, 210 00:10:04,647 --> 00:10:08,912 while you are sitting on your asses watching your television. 211 00:10:08,912 --> 00:10:10,653 [gunshot] 212 00:10:10,653 --> 00:10:12,350 [groaning] 213 00:10:12,350 --> 00:10:13,221 No! 214 00:10:13,221 --> 00:10:14,701 Oh my god! 215 00:10:14,701 --> 00:10:18,095 To be or not to be. 216 00:10:18,095 --> 00:10:20,054 That is the question. 217 00:10:20,054 --> 00:10:21,621 [yelling] 218 00:10:21,621 --> 00:10:23,448 Hell is a teenage girl. 219 00:10:23,448 --> 00:10:25,581 Please don't demonetize me with it. 220 00:10:25,581 --> 00:10:28,062 This is an intense situation. 221 00:10:34,024 --> 00:10:35,896 Hey, get away from that record press. 222 00:10:38,942 --> 00:10:42,685 DRACMORDA: I think what makes a camp horror movie is when you're 223 00:10:42,685 --> 00:10:46,515 at a theater and the crowd is just laughing and wincing back 224 00:10:46,515 --> 00:10:48,648 and forth at the same time. 225 00:10:48,648 --> 00:10:50,998 When I see a movie like that, I know that I'm 226 00:10:50,998 --> 00:10:52,086 in a camp horror movie. 227 00:10:52,086 --> 00:10:53,783 Just look at me. 228 00:10:53,783 --> 00:10:55,350 I'm soaking wet. 229 00:10:55,350 --> 00:11:02,052 Camp is hard enough to define, let alone be fluent in. 230 00:11:02,052 --> 00:11:05,882 And I think Akela Cooper, who wrote Megan, 231 00:11:05,882 --> 00:11:07,971 understands how to write camp. 232 00:11:07,971 --> 00:11:10,887 Now, when Megan is revealed, I don't 233 00:11:10,887 --> 00:11:12,019 want to see any blank faces. 234 00:11:12,019 --> 00:11:12,933 DRACMORDA: Megan. 235 00:11:12,933 --> 00:11:14,282 What's not to love? 236 00:11:14,282 --> 00:11:15,457 She's gorgeous. 237 00:11:15,457 --> 00:11:16,980 Her hair is flawless. 238 00:11:16,980 --> 00:11:18,634 Her skin is flawless. 239 00:11:18,634 --> 00:11:21,115 And whoever came up with that dance, I mean, 240 00:11:21,115 --> 00:11:22,899 they need to get a raise because that dance 241 00:11:22,899 --> 00:11:24,422 put a chokehold on everyone. 242 00:11:24,422 --> 00:11:29,253 I think the dance scene alone makes it a camp classic. 243 00:11:29,253 --> 00:11:34,432 CHELSEA: Megan is about a toy developer played by Allison 244 00:11:34,432 --> 00:11:39,350 Williams, who unexpectedly ends up getting custody of her niece 245 00:11:39,350 --> 00:11:42,005 after her sister and brother-in-law die 246 00:11:42,005 --> 00:11:43,703 in an accident. 247 00:11:43,703 --> 00:11:47,794 And she is having such a hard time connecting with this girl. 248 00:11:47,794 --> 00:11:52,320 She ends up inventing this life-sized doll named-- 249 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:53,843 ALLISON: Model three generative Android. 250 00:11:53,843 --> 00:11:55,279 Megan for short. 251 00:11:55,279 --> 00:11:58,892 And kind of introduces her niece to Megan to help 252 00:11:58,892 --> 00:11:59,936 her niece with her grief. 253 00:11:59,936 --> 00:12:01,111 Shall we draw? 254 00:12:01,111 --> 00:12:05,289 And so the doll and her niece develop 255 00:12:05,289 --> 00:12:07,074 this very toxic friendship. 256 00:12:07,074 --> 00:12:08,553 I love it. 257 00:12:08,553 --> 00:12:10,730 MAN: I want you all to remember this moment, 258 00:12:10,730 --> 00:12:13,341 the moment we kicked Hasbro right in the dick. 259 00:12:13,341 --> 00:12:14,908 EMILY: There's just something really 260 00:12:14,908 --> 00:12:17,301 fun about a campy horror movie that sets up the premise 261 00:12:17,301 --> 00:12:18,955 really well. 262 00:12:18,955 --> 00:12:20,522 It's like we know this doll is going to be a bad idea. 263 00:12:20,522 --> 00:12:23,743 There's no doubt about what the end result of this idea 264 00:12:23,743 --> 00:12:25,005 is going to be. 265 00:12:25,005 --> 00:12:28,095 But then like the twists and turns of it, 266 00:12:28,095 --> 00:12:30,227 the jump scares, the sort of slow 267 00:12:30,227 --> 00:12:33,361 build up psychologically of what's going on, 268 00:12:33,361 --> 00:12:36,364 it just is very knowing but done in a very skillful way. 269 00:12:36,364 --> 00:12:37,495 We'd have to shut her down. 270 00:12:37,495 --> 00:12:39,367 Jeez! 271 00:12:39,367 --> 00:12:40,107 That's great. 272 00:12:40,107 --> 00:12:41,630 That was great. 273 00:12:41,630 --> 00:12:44,502 I personally wouldn't want a Megan doll in my house. 274 00:12:44,502 --> 00:12:49,246 Even before she goes bad, her whole design is unnerving. 275 00:12:49,246 --> 00:12:53,381 Like, those eyes are just a little bit too big that, like, 276 00:12:53,381 --> 00:12:55,949 perfect smirk. 277 00:12:55,949 --> 00:12:59,213 I can see how, as a kid, it would be cool to have a robot 278 00:12:59,213 --> 00:13:03,217 friend that's like your size that does everything 279 00:13:03,217 --> 00:13:04,827 that you want. 280 00:13:04,827 --> 00:13:07,090 WOMAN: If you make a toy that's impossible to let go of, 281 00:13:07,090 --> 00:13:10,311 then how do you ever expect a child to grow? 282 00:13:10,311 --> 00:13:14,794 It's just that when it goes bad, it goes really bad. 283 00:13:14,794 --> 00:13:18,449 [tires screeching] 284 00:13:18,449 --> 00:13:21,583 SWANTHULA: The best camp is delivered straight-faced. 285 00:13:21,583 --> 00:13:23,237 Did you hurt someone? 286 00:13:23,237 --> 00:13:25,021 God, I hope not. 287 00:13:25,021 --> 00:13:27,458 Because if I did, we'd both be in a lot of trouble. 288 00:13:27,458 --> 00:13:29,634 SWANTHULA: So Megan is giving her performances. 289 00:13:29,634 --> 00:13:32,246 And everything that she's saying, it's so out there, 290 00:13:32,246 --> 00:13:34,204 but she says it dead serious. 291 00:13:34,204 --> 00:13:36,946 If heaven exists, it wouldn't be for boys like Brandon, 292 00:13:36,946 --> 00:13:38,034 would it? 293 00:13:38,034 --> 00:13:39,340 SWANTHULA: And I think that's where 294 00:13:39,340 --> 00:13:41,081 the comedy just hits just the right tone, 295 00:13:41,081 --> 00:13:42,604 and people really tap into that. 296 00:13:42,604 --> 00:13:44,911 It was horror camp at its best, I think. 297 00:13:44,911 --> 00:13:47,130 I have a new friend who are user now. 298 00:13:47,130 --> 00:13:48,044 Me. 299 00:13:54,964 --> 00:13:57,271 NATHANIEL: Addams Family values the movie 300 00:13:57,271 --> 00:13:59,708 that proves that the sequel can outdo its predecessor when 301 00:13:59,708 --> 00:14:00,752 it comes to horror comedies. 302 00:14:00,752 --> 00:14:02,450 Oh. 303 00:14:02,450 --> 00:14:03,712 And what's this? 304 00:14:08,195 --> 00:14:10,153 Mom. 305 00:14:10,153 --> 00:14:12,460 I think the secret sauce with Addams Family values 306 00:14:12,460 --> 00:14:13,765 is, well, two things. 307 00:14:13,765 --> 00:14:15,245 First of all, they realized what a treasure 308 00:14:15,245 --> 00:14:16,420 they had in Christina Ricci. 309 00:14:16,420 --> 00:14:17,595 And so they built an entire subplot 310 00:14:17,595 --> 00:14:19,902 around her, justifiably so. 311 00:14:19,902 --> 00:14:22,600 And then you introduce John Cusack as a serial killer. 312 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:23,645 Hi. 313 00:14:23,645 --> 00:14:24,907 Addams residence. 314 00:14:24,907 --> 00:14:26,343 Ooh, it's old. 315 00:14:26,343 --> 00:14:28,084 One of my favorite serial killers in film history, 316 00:14:28,084 --> 00:14:29,346 I think. - Are you the mom? 317 00:14:29,346 --> 00:14:31,392 I am Mrs. Addams. 318 00:14:31,392 --> 00:14:33,568 I love your dress. 319 00:14:33,568 --> 00:14:34,786 It's so tight. 320 00:14:34,786 --> 00:14:37,877 But she is so unhinged in this film 321 00:14:37,877 --> 00:14:39,922 that she is playing just this outright psychopath 322 00:14:39,922 --> 00:14:42,055 who's just murdering men for their money left and right. 323 00:14:42,055 --> 00:14:43,143 Bachelors, beware. 324 00:14:43,143 --> 00:14:44,579 Debbie. 325 00:14:44,579 --> 00:14:45,667 I'll think of when I think of 326 00:14:45,667 --> 00:14:47,408 Addams Family values is Debbie, 327 00:14:47,408 --> 00:14:48,452 and I love Debbie. 328 00:14:48,452 --> 00:14:50,106 Number one. 329 00:14:50,106 --> 00:14:53,370 Like, I feel like Marilyn Munster crawled so Debbie could 330 00:14:53,370 --> 00:14:55,546 run all the way to Addams Family values 331 00:14:55,546 --> 00:14:57,984 and just like make everybody fall in love. 332 00:14:57,984 --> 00:14:59,376 I'm good with my hands. 333 00:14:59,376 --> 00:15:01,813 Debbie was kind of a drag queen too. 334 00:15:01,813 --> 00:15:04,207 She was so over the top and the hair and everything, 335 00:15:04,207 --> 00:15:06,775 and her practicing her lines in the car definitely 336 00:15:06,775 --> 00:15:09,560 inspired my drag, I'll say. 337 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:13,477 I was never a crazy fan of the Addams Family 338 00:15:13,477 --> 00:15:15,044 because to me, it was always just 339 00:15:15,044 --> 00:15:17,568 the same joke being told over. 340 00:15:17,568 --> 00:15:20,702 It's raining what a lovely day, let's have a picnic. 341 00:15:20,702 --> 00:15:22,269 [snores] 342 00:15:22,269 --> 00:15:24,532 But the stroke of genius in Addams Family values 343 00:15:24,532 --> 00:15:26,969 was they put the kids in summer camp, 344 00:15:26,969 --> 00:15:29,145 and they gave the kids something to play against. 345 00:15:29,145 --> 00:15:31,539 Hey, listen up, everybody. 346 00:15:31,539 --> 00:15:32,540 I'm Gary Granger! 347 00:15:32,540 --> 00:15:36,283 And I'm Becky Martin Granger! 348 00:15:36,283 --> 00:15:40,113 DANA: And they made the Addams Family the sane ones, as 349 00:15:40,113 --> 00:15:41,592 compared to the people in camp. 350 00:15:41,592 --> 00:15:43,943 We're the owners and directors here at Camp Chippewa! 351 00:15:43,943 --> 00:15:47,859 And we're all here to learn, to grow, 352 00:15:47,859 --> 00:15:50,123 and to just plain have fun! 353 00:15:50,123 --> 00:15:52,081 Because that's what being privileged is all about! 354 00:15:52,081 --> 00:15:53,691 [applause] 355 00:15:53,691 --> 00:15:56,825 JUSTINA: Wednesday and Pugsley, they were just being them. 356 00:15:56,825 --> 00:16:00,655 They didn't want to be a part of this superficial stupidity, 357 00:16:00,655 --> 00:16:04,485 and the best example of that is the Thanksgiving play. 358 00:16:04,485 --> 00:16:08,141 That was perfect. 359 00:16:08,141 --> 00:16:10,404 Of all the popular kids are the pilgrims, 360 00:16:10,404 --> 00:16:12,319 and all the misfits and quote, unquote, 361 00:16:12,319 --> 00:16:14,843 "losers," are the Indians. 362 00:16:14,843 --> 00:16:17,150 And what we see with Wednesday playing 363 00:16:17,150 --> 00:16:21,458 Pocahontas is she's not going to take pilgrim crap 364 00:16:21,458 --> 00:16:24,287 because she explains bluntly what has happened 365 00:16:24,287 --> 00:16:26,550 to Indigenous Americans. 366 00:16:26,550 --> 00:16:28,857 You have taken the land, which is rightfully ours. 367 00:16:28,857 --> 00:16:31,555 And how they wind up suffering at the hands of colonization. 368 00:16:31,555 --> 00:16:34,080 Years from now, my people will be 369 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:37,170 forced to live in mobile homes, on reservations. 370 00:16:37,170 --> 00:16:39,999 We will sell our bracelets by the roadsides. 371 00:16:39,999 --> 00:16:42,653 You will play golf and enjoy hot hors d'oeuvres. 372 00:16:42,653 --> 00:16:45,961 So basically, to hell with it, set it all on fire. 373 00:16:48,833 --> 00:16:51,662 [yelling] 374 00:16:51,662 --> 00:16:53,795 They really took the Charles Addams's sense of humor, 375 00:16:53,795 --> 00:16:55,275 like, just, they went with it. 376 00:16:55,275 --> 00:16:57,364 Like, you didn't really question the logic of it. 377 00:16:57,364 --> 00:17:00,236 But I mean, she basically kills half the summer camp 378 00:17:00,236 --> 00:17:02,238 and presumably kills her boyfriend in the very last shot 379 00:17:02,238 --> 00:17:03,674 too. 380 00:17:03,674 --> 00:17:04,936 It ends with him screaming, and she's smiling. 381 00:17:04,936 --> 00:17:06,242 And it's, like, OK, so she killed him. 382 00:17:10,203 --> 00:17:12,509 KATE: When we talk about horror comedies, 383 00:17:12,509 --> 00:17:16,818 the only one that counts in my mind is Beetlejuice. 384 00:17:16,818 --> 00:17:18,646 And I'm only going to say it once because I 385 00:17:18,646 --> 00:17:19,821 do believe he'd show up. 386 00:17:19,821 --> 00:17:21,388 You have to give us the Beetlejuice, 387 00:17:21,388 --> 00:17:25,218 Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice. 388 00:17:25,218 --> 00:17:26,741 Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice. 389 00:17:26,741 --> 00:17:28,482 [laughter] 390 00:17:28,482 --> 00:17:31,833 It's showtime. 391 00:17:31,833 --> 00:17:35,271 KATE: It's an achievement in world building 392 00:17:35,271 --> 00:17:38,753 that I haven't seen since, maybe. 393 00:17:38,753 --> 00:17:43,627 The character design, the home design, the comedy, the terror, 394 00:17:43,627 --> 00:17:45,673 the things we all still remember, 395 00:17:45,673 --> 00:17:49,198 like the huge open mouth and the eyes and sighed, 396 00:17:49,198 --> 00:17:52,245 or the woman who's half and half with her legs crossed. 397 00:17:52,245 --> 00:17:54,508 Obviously, the Tim Burton style is fantastic. 398 00:17:54,508 --> 00:17:57,511 SWANTHULA: Tim Burton was able to take some material that 399 00:17:57,511 --> 00:18:00,340 was really freakish and really otherworldly, 400 00:18:00,340 --> 00:18:03,125 and make it acceptable and comedic. 401 00:18:03,125 --> 00:18:05,258 And you know, you could watch that with your family, 402 00:18:05,258 --> 00:18:06,607 and nobody flinched at it. 403 00:18:06,607 --> 00:18:08,522 But the subject matter was so gruesome. 404 00:18:08,522 --> 00:18:11,002 It's interesting how he was able to do that. 405 00:18:11,002 --> 00:18:12,352 [yelling] 406 00:18:12,352 --> 00:18:13,527 My god. 407 00:18:13,527 --> 00:18:15,790 We just have to pray the other closets 408 00:18:15,790 --> 00:18:17,139 are bigger than this one. 409 00:18:17,139 --> 00:18:19,228 That movie's all about gentrification to me. 410 00:18:19,228 --> 00:18:22,797 [chuckles] The Maitlands live in that house. 411 00:18:22,797 --> 00:18:25,191 They do not want to leave that house. 412 00:18:25,191 --> 00:18:27,715 That is where they are at their happiest. 413 00:18:27,715 --> 00:18:31,719 They don't want anything huge or fancy around them. 414 00:18:31,719 --> 00:18:35,418 They just love their quaintest little spot. 415 00:18:35,418 --> 00:18:37,159 Maybe this is heaven. 416 00:18:37,159 --> 00:18:44,123 RICKY: And then here come these rich-ass people who show up, 417 00:18:44,123 --> 00:18:46,516 and they're, like, you know what would be dope here? 418 00:18:46,516 --> 00:18:50,651 We just tear this idea of normalcy that you have 419 00:18:50,651 --> 00:18:52,305 and just throw money at it. 420 00:18:52,305 --> 00:18:53,871 Let's just throw money at it, and that 421 00:18:53,871 --> 00:18:55,134 will make everything better. 422 00:18:55,134 --> 00:18:57,310 That will make everybody happy. 423 00:18:57,310 --> 00:18:59,834 This is my art, and it is dangerous. 424 00:18:59,834 --> 00:19:01,314 Do you think I want to die like this? 425 00:19:01,314 --> 00:19:03,925 And it's just, like, nah, dawg. 426 00:19:03,925 --> 00:19:05,144 That's not what we want. 427 00:19:05,144 --> 00:19:07,798 You got to say my name three times. 428 00:19:07,798 --> 00:19:10,453 When we're dealing with the supernatural or the horrific, 429 00:19:10,453 --> 00:19:12,760 we need to have boundaries, firm boundaries, 430 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:13,717 so we know how it works. 431 00:19:13,717 --> 00:19:14,762 Say it once. 432 00:19:14,762 --> 00:19:15,763 Say it twice. 433 00:19:15,763 --> 00:19:17,068 Third time's a charm. 434 00:19:17,068 --> 00:19:18,853 And Beetlejuice sets out those rules so 435 00:19:18,853 --> 00:19:22,770 cleanly that it's become part of the vernacular of everybody 436 00:19:22,770 --> 00:19:24,511 who talks about movies, that Beetlejuice, 437 00:19:24,511 --> 00:19:27,122 Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice. 438 00:19:27,122 --> 00:19:28,558 OK, we're fine. 439 00:19:28,558 --> 00:19:30,908 And so the rule building is really excellent there. 440 00:19:30,908 --> 00:19:32,954 It's a great structural tool used over 441 00:19:32,954 --> 00:19:34,216 and over again in that story. 442 00:19:34,216 --> 00:19:35,913 Michael Keaton is Beetlejuice. 443 00:19:35,913 --> 00:19:36,697 What? 444 00:19:36,697 --> 00:19:37,480 Excuse me. 445 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:38,568 Really goes for it. 446 00:19:38,568 --> 00:19:40,614 We're going to have some laughs. 447 00:19:40,614 --> 00:19:43,660 But everybody plays it larger than life, 448 00:19:43,660 --> 00:19:46,359 just like the story and the aesthetic of it 449 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:48,056 is larger than life. 450 00:19:48,056 --> 00:19:50,667 Everything in the performances is a little bit bigger as well. 451 00:19:50,667 --> 00:19:53,801 If you don't let me gut out this house and make it my own, 452 00:19:53,801 --> 00:19:56,369 I will go and say, and I will take you with me! 453 00:19:56,369 --> 00:20:00,808 I remember wanting to be every single person in that movie. 454 00:20:00,808 --> 00:20:02,592 Uh, to be Lydia Deetz. 455 00:20:02,592 --> 00:20:04,594 SWANTHULA: I think in Lydia Deetz, 456 00:20:04,594 --> 00:20:08,337 we have a character that tons of horror fans can relate to. 457 00:20:08,337 --> 00:20:09,556 I could live here. 458 00:20:09,556 --> 00:20:10,818 SWANTHULA: Because they're an outsider. 459 00:20:10,818 --> 00:20:11,949 They're artistic. 460 00:20:11,949 --> 00:20:13,212 They move around a lot and lonely. 461 00:20:13,212 --> 00:20:14,343 Maybe not too many friends. 462 00:20:14,343 --> 00:20:17,694 My whole life is a dark room. 463 00:20:17,694 --> 00:20:21,132 One big dark room. 464 00:20:21,132 --> 00:20:22,830 SWANTHULA: I do think a lot of people 465 00:20:22,830 --> 00:20:25,006 that love horror can see themselves in Lydia. 466 00:20:25,006 --> 00:20:26,877 Did you see yourself in Lydia? 467 00:20:26,877 --> 00:20:29,489 A little bit, because I, too, am strange and unusual. 468 00:20:29,489 --> 00:20:31,099 NATHANIEL: [laughs] 469 00:20:31,099 --> 00:20:33,971 Yeah, I guess Lydia was like the first goth queen, right? 470 00:20:33,971 --> 00:20:35,146 She married a demon. 471 00:20:35,146 --> 00:20:36,713 How much more gothic can you get? 472 00:20:36,713 --> 00:20:39,325 Oh, what a perfect film. 473 00:20:39,325 --> 00:20:42,284 [yelling] 474 00:20:42,284 --> 00:20:45,200 [clanking] 475 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:47,724 DAVID: One of those films that if you haven't seen, 476 00:20:47,724 --> 00:20:51,772 I'm begging you to find immediately and put on, have 477 00:20:51,772 --> 00:20:56,733 a glass of Burgundy or whatever you imbibe, and sit back 478 00:20:56,733 --> 00:21:01,303 and watch Robert Fuest's The Abominable Dr. Phibes. 479 00:21:01,303 --> 00:21:04,175 HOWARD: Dr. Phibes is definitely a product of its era 480 00:21:04,175 --> 00:21:05,873 and more so of where it was made. 481 00:21:05,873 --> 00:21:08,267 It was definitely a British film and its sense of humor. 482 00:21:08,267 --> 00:21:11,618 A brass unicorn has been catapulted 483 00:21:11,618 --> 00:21:14,316 across a London street and impaled an eminent surgeon. 484 00:21:14,316 --> 00:21:17,232 HOWARD: It was erudite, and at the same time, low brow. 485 00:21:17,232 --> 00:21:18,581 Easy, does it? 486 00:21:18,581 --> 00:21:21,062 I think it's a left-hand thread. 487 00:21:21,062 --> 00:21:21,932 Is it is? 488 00:21:21,932 --> 00:21:25,240 [door creaking] 489 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:27,460 DAVID: I think a lot of people look at it as just 490 00:21:27,460 --> 00:21:31,507 a goofy, weird technicolor kind of psychedelic comedy, 491 00:21:31,507 --> 00:21:33,117 but it's one of my favorite pieces, 492 00:21:33,117 --> 00:21:34,380 especially from that era. 493 00:21:34,380 --> 00:21:37,600 You've got a man who's in mourning. 494 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:41,300 I am already dead. 495 00:21:41,300 --> 00:21:45,260 Broken by the loss of the love of his life. 496 00:21:45,260 --> 00:21:48,263 MAN [ON PHONE]: Nine killed her. 497 00:21:48,263 --> 00:21:51,614 Nine shall die. 498 00:21:51,614 --> 00:21:55,836 In what he believes was malpractice by the doctors 499 00:21:55,836 --> 00:21:57,446 who were trying to help her. 500 00:21:57,446 --> 00:21:59,056 You murdered her. 501 00:21:59,056 --> 00:21:59,927 No. 502 00:21:59,927 --> 00:22:01,668 Murdered her. 503 00:22:01,668 --> 00:22:04,627 DAVID: So he has looked as all good vengeful killers 504 00:22:04,627 --> 00:22:07,848 do to a wonderful source of inspiration for murder-- 505 00:22:07,848 --> 00:22:09,502 the Bible. 506 00:22:09,502 --> 00:22:12,287 And he has plucked the great plagues as inspiration 507 00:22:12,287 --> 00:22:13,984 for his vengeance. 508 00:22:13,984 --> 00:22:16,335 It has some of the most bizarre murders you'll 509 00:22:16,335 --> 00:22:18,032 ever see in a horror film. 510 00:22:18,032 --> 00:22:21,949 The curse of the locusts. 511 00:22:21,949 --> 00:22:23,124 A curse of hail. 512 00:22:23,124 --> 00:22:25,692 I am not one of those horror hounds 513 00:22:25,692 --> 00:22:28,129 who is cheering on the monster. 514 00:22:28,129 --> 00:22:30,958 I'm a psychiatrist, actually. 515 00:22:30,958 --> 00:22:32,351 Head shrinker. 516 00:22:32,351 --> 00:22:35,179 DAVID: But I am 100% on Vincent Price's side, 517 00:22:35,179 --> 00:22:39,053 as he goes about this very creative, very artistic 518 00:22:39,053 --> 00:22:41,403 way of offing his enemies. 519 00:22:41,403 --> 00:22:43,927 And the police are so inept that it 520 00:22:43,927 --> 00:22:45,581 also makes it even more funny. 521 00:22:45,581 --> 00:22:48,149 Any more news on this fellow Feebs? 522 00:22:48,149 --> 00:22:49,890 The Phibes, sir. 523 00:22:49,890 --> 00:22:51,674 Are you in the habit of contradicting 524 00:22:51,674 --> 00:22:53,981 your superiors, Bream? 525 00:22:53,981 --> 00:22:57,854 DANA: Vincent Price knew who he was, was not afraid 526 00:22:57,854 --> 00:23:00,640 of making fun of himself, and was having a great time, 527 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:02,859 and it's really fun to watch, and the way 528 00:23:02,859 --> 00:23:05,732 that he has to plug that thing into his neck to articulate. 529 00:23:05,732 --> 00:23:11,738 The man utters not a word of dialogue through his mouth. 530 00:23:11,738 --> 00:23:15,263 It is all done through expression and with this wildly 531 00:23:15,263 --> 00:23:18,832 cool makeup on when you reveal what's 532 00:23:18,832 --> 00:23:21,487 underneath the construction of his disguise. 533 00:23:25,882 --> 00:23:30,234 It's such a powerful film because the world that it 534 00:23:30,234 --> 00:23:35,326 transports you into is so well-executed through production 535 00:23:35,326 --> 00:23:37,154 design, through lighting, through color, 536 00:23:37,154 --> 00:23:38,547 the way it's dressed and painted, 537 00:23:38,547 --> 00:23:40,854 and all the wardrobe and makeup. 538 00:23:40,854 --> 00:23:44,118 Really funny movie, but also incredibly 539 00:23:44,118 --> 00:23:47,861 tragic and totally perversely entertaining as a horror film. 540 00:23:47,861 --> 00:23:49,950 It was kind of creepy and scary at the same time. 541 00:23:49,950 --> 00:23:52,866 Dr. Phibes is a fever dream. 542 00:23:52,866 --> 00:23:56,696 DAVID: I think it is master cinema on the highest level. 543 00:24:00,090 --> 00:24:03,442 [projector whirring] 544 00:24:10,405 --> 00:24:13,626 [yelling] 545 00:24:14,670 --> 00:24:19,370 Oh, I kick ass for the Lord! 546 00:24:19,370 --> 00:24:20,981 We got a job to do. 547 00:24:20,981 --> 00:24:21,764 Let's do it. 548 00:24:21,764 --> 00:24:23,244 And keep quiet, OK? 549 00:24:25,899 --> 00:24:27,814 Styrofoam cup? 550 00:24:30,904 --> 00:24:32,732 Everything was fine with our system 551 00:24:32,732 --> 00:24:35,648 until the power grid was shut off by dickless here. 552 00:24:35,648 --> 00:24:37,867 They caused an explosion. 553 00:24:37,867 --> 00:24:39,608 Is this true? 554 00:24:39,608 --> 00:24:41,436 Yes, it's true. 555 00:24:41,436 --> 00:24:45,179 This man has no dick. 556 00:24:45,179 --> 00:24:52,578 Are you saying that I put an abnormal brain into a 7- 557 00:24:52,578 --> 00:25:01,238 and 1/2-foot long, 54-inch wide gorilla? 558 00:25:01,238 --> 00:25:02,544 What? 559 00:25:02,544 --> 00:25:05,199 [YELLING] Is that what you're telling me? 560 00:25:07,984 --> 00:25:11,510 [power saw whirring] 561 00:25:12,946 --> 00:25:16,471 [clinks] 562 00:25:23,391 --> 00:25:24,305 Groovy. 563 00:25:34,054 --> 00:25:37,536 [yelling] 564 00:25:41,191 --> 00:25:44,455 Abbott and Costello Meet Frankenstein. 565 00:25:44,455 --> 00:25:46,457 Well, first of all, it's the silliest film ever made, 566 00:25:46,457 --> 00:25:47,720 you know. 567 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:49,025 And it's having so much fun being silly. 568 00:25:49,025 --> 00:25:51,071 Don't you know what's going to happen now? 569 00:25:51,071 --> 00:25:52,028 I'll bite. 570 00:25:52,028 --> 00:25:53,552 Oh, no. 571 00:25:53,552 --> 00:25:55,205 I will. 572 00:25:55,205 --> 00:25:58,687 MAN: I guess it was the end of the universal monster cycle. 573 00:25:58,687 --> 00:26:00,950 They had made so many Frankenstein movies, 574 00:26:00,950 --> 00:26:03,605 so many Dracula movies, so many mummy movies. 575 00:26:03,605 --> 00:26:06,303 They didn't know what was left but to turn it into a comedy. 576 00:26:06,303 --> 00:26:09,263 STEVE: I mean, Costello play shipping clerks. 577 00:26:09,263 --> 00:26:11,178 Answer that phone. 578 00:26:11,178 --> 00:26:12,396 Answer the bell! 579 00:26:12,396 --> 00:26:13,702 [phone ringing] 580 00:26:13,702 --> 00:26:15,008 Answer the phone! 581 00:26:15,008 --> 00:26:16,531 Which one do you want me to answer first? 582 00:26:16,531 --> 00:26:17,663 Both of them. 583 00:26:17,663 --> 00:26:19,621 Hold the line, please. 584 00:26:19,621 --> 00:26:21,101 Thank you. 585 00:26:21,101 --> 00:26:23,277 And two of the things that they have to deal with 586 00:26:23,277 --> 00:26:25,235 turn out to be Frankenstein in his box. 587 00:26:25,235 --> 00:26:26,367 Wow! 588 00:26:26,367 --> 00:26:28,587 STEVE: And Dracula in his coffin. 589 00:26:28,587 --> 00:26:31,851 And Dracula actually brings Frankenstein back to life. 590 00:26:31,851 --> 00:26:32,721 Master. 591 00:26:32,721 --> 00:26:34,375 Yeah. 592 00:26:34,375 --> 00:26:39,510 They want Costello's brain to transfer into Frankenstein, 593 00:26:39,510 --> 00:26:42,557 to give him a calmer brain. 594 00:26:42,557 --> 00:26:43,732 There you go. 595 00:26:43,732 --> 00:26:45,299 I mean, what more plot do you need? 596 00:26:45,299 --> 00:26:48,302 I wonder if Dracula's really in there. 597 00:26:48,302 --> 00:26:50,086 It's kind of a unique case in Hollywood 598 00:26:50,086 --> 00:26:52,393 because that's where your characters really understood 599 00:26:52,393 --> 00:26:54,003 that they were inside a horror franchise 600 00:26:54,003 --> 00:26:56,049 and that there was an audience for these films. 601 00:26:56,049 --> 00:26:57,920 I know there's no such a person as Dracula. 602 00:26:57,920 --> 00:26:59,792 You know there's no such a person as Dracula. 603 00:26:59,792 --> 00:27:01,837 But, does Dracula know it? 604 00:27:01,837 --> 00:27:04,231 And there were certain boxes that had to be checked in order 605 00:27:04,231 --> 00:27:05,667 to make your audience happy. 606 00:27:05,667 --> 00:27:07,364 And what's amazing is that it works as a comedy. 607 00:27:07,364 --> 00:27:08,844 And it still works as a horror film. 608 00:27:08,844 --> 00:27:10,846 If you watch it and you're a fan of the Wolfman, 609 00:27:10,846 --> 00:27:12,500 you get exactly what you came for. 610 00:27:12,500 --> 00:27:15,721 You get a great transformation scene. 611 00:27:15,721 --> 00:27:17,548 You get tall but running around, you know, 612 00:27:17,548 --> 00:27:19,681 causing all this mayhem, covered in fur. 613 00:27:19,681 --> 00:27:21,204 [growling] 614 00:27:21,204 --> 00:27:23,642 That's my conversation, a guy growls like a wolf. 615 00:27:23,642 --> 00:27:27,384 And you get some good Frankenstein action. 616 00:27:27,384 --> 00:27:29,386 And you get some Dracula. 617 00:27:29,386 --> 00:27:30,910 I mean, you get everything. 618 00:27:30,997 --> 00:27:32,520 You even get a little bit invisible man at the end. 619 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,392 [man laughing] 620 00:27:35,392 --> 00:27:37,960 DANA: Kevin Costello were not great film comedians. 621 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:39,353 They were vaudeville comedians. 622 00:27:39,353 --> 00:27:41,050 They were only as good as their gags. 623 00:27:41,050 --> 00:27:45,881 This movie happened to have a ton of great ones. 624 00:27:45,881 --> 00:27:48,623 It's also Abbott Costello, like, right in the pocket, 625 00:27:48,623 --> 00:27:50,407 where they were just so funny. 626 00:27:50,407 --> 00:27:52,758 And their go-to jokes weren't, like, stale yet. 627 00:27:52,758 --> 00:27:53,976 If you want me just holler. 628 00:27:53,976 --> 00:27:54,934 Holler oh, Chick. 629 00:27:54,934 --> 00:27:56,413 You understand? - Oh, Chick! 630 00:27:56,413 --> 00:27:57,676 - What do you want? - What kept you? 631 00:27:57,676 --> 00:27:59,373 JONAH RAY: And so it gives Costello just 632 00:27:59,373 --> 00:28:00,635 like these opportunities to be scared. 633 00:28:00,635 --> 00:28:02,245 Chick! 634 00:28:02,245 --> 00:28:03,769 JONAH RAY: There's like nothing better because that's 635 00:28:03,769 --> 00:28:04,770 what he's so good at. 636 00:28:04,770 --> 00:28:07,642 [WHISPERING] Chick. 637 00:28:07,642 --> 00:28:12,647 Chick. 638 00:28:16,259 --> 00:28:17,957 NATHANIEL: And a lot of horror spoofs. 639 00:28:17,957 --> 00:28:20,437 It's almost like, well, it's a down market franchise. 640 00:28:20,437 --> 00:28:22,048 And so we're just kind of going to goof 641 00:28:22,048 --> 00:28:23,179 around and make fun of it. 642 00:28:23,179 --> 00:28:24,877 But this one doesn't do that. 643 00:28:24,877 --> 00:28:27,140 It really loves the genre, and it embraces it at the same time. 644 00:28:29,925 --> 00:28:33,015 Not unlike The Ghost and Mr Chicken, 645 00:28:33,015 --> 00:28:38,629 a great haunted house movie that should not be as funny as it is. 646 00:28:38,629 --> 00:28:42,938 But it's just great gag after great gag after great gag 647 00:28:42,938 --> 00:28:44,505 after great gag. 648 00:28:44,505 --> 00:28:47,813 To me, that first night in The Ghost and Mr. Chicken, 649 00:28:47,813 --> 00:28:50,859 there are more scary moments in that than in The Shining, 650 00:28:50,859 --> 00:28:52,034 front to back. 651 00:28:52,034 --> 00:28:55,429 [music playing] 652 00:29:02,088 --> 00:29:03,567 But. 653 00:29:03,567 --> 00:29:07,006 [piano playing] 654 00:29:13,099 --> 00:29:16,580 RYAN: Fright Night is my favorite horror movie of all. 655 00:29:16,580 --> 00:29:20,280 That's the first horror movie I ever saw in a theater. 656 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,935 And I was scared because it's called Fright Night. 657 00:29:22,935 --> 00:29:26,329 But what it taught me was, horror can also be funny. 658 00:29:26,329 --> 00:29:28,636 Yeah! 659 00:29:28,636 --> 00:29:29,942 [giggling] 660 00:29:29,942 --> 00:29:32,553 Fright Night came out in 1985, and it's 661 00:29:32,553 --> 00:29:34,511 kind of a twist on rear window. 662 00:29:34,511 --> 00:29:36,905 It's about this teenage boy, Charley Brewster, 663 00:29:36,905 --> 00:29:38,994 who becomes convinced that his neighbor, Jerry Dandrige, 664 00:29:38,994 --> 00:29:40,517 is a vampire. 665 00:29:40,517 --> 00:29:42,563 And nobody believes him. 666 00:29:42,563 --> 00:29:43,956 He's a vampire. 667 00:29:43,956 --> 00:29:46,828 A what? 668 00:29:46,828 --> 00:29:48,351 A vampire. 669 00:29:48,351 --> 00:29:50,614 Damn it, haven't you listened to anything I've said? 670 00:29:50,614 --> 00:29:52,921 He's got a love interest that Jerry starts to covet. 671 00:29:52,921 --> 00:29:54,575 And the more he kind of investigates, 672 00:29:54,575 --> 00:29:56,359 the more he puts his friends into trouble. 673 00:29:56,359 --> 00:29:57,883 It's a horror story. 674 00:29:57,883 --> 00:30:00,059 It's a comedy, but it's also a story about protecting 675 00:30:00,059 --> 00:30:01,408 the person that you love. 676 00:30:01,408 --> 00:30:03,018 And you know, being a teenager and the adults 677 00:30:03,018 --> 00:30:03,802 not believing you. 678 00:30:03,802 --> 00:30:05,064 What's he doing here? 679 00:30:05,064 --> 00:30:06,805 I invited him over. 680 00:30:06,805 --> 00:30:07,718 Why? 681 00:30:07,718 --> 00:30:09,372 What's the matter, Charlie? 682 00:30:09,372 --> 00:30:11,418 Afraid I'd never come over without being invited first. 683 00:30:11,418 --> 00:30:12,898 [laughs] 684 00:30:12,898 --> 00:30:15,074 So there's a lot of elements and layers to it. 685 00:30:15,074 --> 00:30:18,077 Charlie, Peter Vincent's on. 686 00:30:18,077 --> 00:30:21,732 TOM: The minute I had the idea of Peter Vincent, 687 00:30:21,732 --> 00:30:23,822 I couldn't wait to get home and write the script. 688 00:30:23,822 --> 00:30:24,953 Really? 689 00:30:24,953 --> 00:30:26,912 TOM: I wrote it really quick and I 690 00:30:26,912 --> 00:30:29,088 was laying on the floor laughing hysterically 691 00:30:29,088 --> 00:30:30,785 as I wrote the scenes because some of them 692 00:30:30,785 --> 00:30:34,093 were really funny, because the ea that I had for Fright Night 693 00:30:34,093 --> 00:30:35,703 was intrinsically humorous. 694 00:30:35,703 --> 00:30:38,314 MAN [ON TV]: There are a lot of people who do not 695 00:30:38,314 --> 00:30:41,970 believe in vampires, but I do. 696 00:30:41,970 --> 00:30:43,450 TOM: Well, it all comes down to what 697 00:30:43,450 --> 00:30:46,409 a horror fan kid who's watching the Friday Night 698 00:30:46,409 --> 00:30:47,889 Frights, which is what I did. 699 00:30:47,889 --> 00:30:50,239 If there was a vampire next door, what would he do? 700 00:30:50,239 --> 00:30:51,588 Mr. Vincent. 701 00:30:51,588 --> 00:30:54,504 TOM: He'd go to whoever the horror host was 702 00:30:54,504 --> 00:30:56,115 of the Friday Night Frights. 703 00:30:56,115 --> 00:30:57,986 I believe in vampires. 704 00:30:57,986 --> 00:31:00,597 I have one living next door to me. 705 00:31:00,597 --> 00:31:01,729 Would you help me kill him? 706 00:31:04,950 --> 00:31:06,429 Pardon me? 707 00:31:06,429 --> 00:31:10,259 Humor is great in horror if you have building suspense 708 00:31:10,259 --> 00:31:14,002 and if you do have scares because it gives an audience 709 00:31:14,002 --> 00:31:17,136 a chance to let the terror go, which 710 00:31:17,136 --> 00:31:21,314 sets them up for the next even worse scary part. 711 00:31:21,314 --> 00:31:23,011 Hello, everyone. 712 00:31:23,011 --> 00:31:28,364 Chris Sarandon's vampire was probably the first time I was 713 00:31:28,364 --> 00:31:31,063 actually afraid of a vampire. 714 00:31:31,063 --> 00:31:36,503 I got that combination of sort of the sensual allure 715 00:31:36,503 --> 00:31:42,552 that the mom sees in him but the fear that her son sees in him. 716 00:31:42,552 --> 00:31:43,858 And both of those things are true. 717 00:31:43,858 --> 00:31:47,296 He's hot, and he's very scary. 718 00:31:47,296 --> 00:31:48,732 And I was, like, I get it. 719 00:31:48,732 --> 00:31:50,647 I finally get vampires. 720 00:31:50,647 --> 00:31:54,956 I get what people are attracted to about vampires. 721 00:31:54,956 --> 00:31:57,176 I'm gay, and I'd certainly come 722 00:31:57,176 --> 00:31:58,829 out to myself at that point. 723 00:31:58,829 --> 00:32:01,180 But that was kind of one of the movies that was safe to kind 724 00:32:01,180 --> 00:32:03,660 of watch with my friends because the relationship 725 00:32:03,660 --> 00:32:05,880 between the vampire and his familiar 726 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,187 was a little homoerotic, but not over the top 727 00:32:08,187 --> 00:32:10,798 that people would be, like, why are you watching this stuff for? 728 00:32:10,798 --> 00:32:13,714 So you know, you take what you can get when 729 00:32:13,714 --> 00:32:16,195 you're at that time and place. 730 00:32:16,195 --> 00:32:19,546 Like, two days before I'm shooting, I get a call. 731 00:32:19,546 --> 00:32:21,243 You can't have this ending. 732 00:32:21,243 --> 00:32:23,898 And the ending I had was that Charlie 733 00:32:23,898 --> 00:32:25,726 and Amy are back in his bedroom, and 734 00:32:25,726 --> 00:32:27,249 they're making out on the bed. 735 00:32:27,249 --> 00:32:29,991 And they're looking at Peter Vincent on the screen. 736 00:32:29,991 --> 00:32:32,080 And as Peter Vincent is talking, he 737 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,126 starts to turn into a vampire. 738 00:32:34,126 --> 00:32:35,910 And I thought it was a hell of a cliffhanger. 739 00:32:35,910 --> 00:32:37,259 And I said, you can't do that. 740 00:32:37,259 --> 00:32:38,782 You've got to have a happy ending. 741 00:32:38,782 --> 00:32:42,003 So I gave him the happy ending, and the rest is history. 742 00:32:42,003 --> 00:32:45,311 [laughing] 743 00:32:49,054 --> 00:32:51,447 In the summer of 1984, two movies 744 00:32:51,447 --> 00:32:55,538 came out that shocked and horrified parents to the point 745 00:32:55,538 --> 00:32:58,889 that the ratings board had to change the ratings 746 00:32:58,889 --> 00:33:03,720 and create a new rating, PG 13. 747 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:04,983 And those two movies were-- 748 00:33:04,983 --> 00:33:08,073 [yelling] 749 00:33:10,597 --> 00:33:18,257 DANA: --Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom and Gremlins. 750 00:33:18,257 --> 00:33:20,172 [SINGING] Christmas 751 00:33:20,172 --> 00:33:23,044 JOE: Gremlins is the classic Joe Dante film. 752 00:33:23,044 --> 00:33:25,481 It's an absolute masterpiece of Christmas horror. 753 00:33:25,481 --> 00:33:27,179 Kate, what are you doing in there? 754 00:33:27,179 --> 00:33:28,789 Don't ask. 755 00:33:28,789 --> 00:33:30,573 It's tremendously funny. 756 00:33:30,573 --> 00:33:33,141 [squirting] 757 00:33:33,141 --> 00:33:35,404 I'll never forget watching gremlins in a theater 758 00:33:35,404 --> 00:33:39,017 because I was 10 years old, and we thought we were in store 759 00:33:39,017 --> 00:33:41,149 for, like, ET Part Two. 760 00:33:41,149 --> 00:33:42,194 Hey, Dr. Morell. 761 00:33:42,194 --> 00:33:43,412 Morning, Billy. 762 00:33:43,412 --> 00:33:44,892 MICHAEL: No, it starts like this very 763 00:33:44,892 --> 00:33:48,026 magical Amblin-style, boy-meets-creature kind 764 00:33:48,026 --> 00:33:48,809 of movie. 765 00:33:48,809 --> 00:33:50,028 Has it got a name, Dad? 766 00:33:50,028 --> 00:33:52,160 Mogwai. 767 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:53,727 Cute. 768 00:33:53,727 --> 00:34:00,081 And then it just goes to hell in the best way possible. 769 00:34:00,081 --> 00:34:01,691 What's going on here? 770 00:34:01,691 --> 00:34:03,693 You know, there's some things I forgot to tell you guys, 771 00:34:03,693 --> 00:34:05,043 and they're really important. 772 00:34:05,043 --> 00:34:07,480 GIGI: In the world of gremlins, they set you 773 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:09,873 up with the three main rules-- 774 00:34:09,873 --> 00:34:13,964 keep it away from lights, don't get it wet-- 775 00:34:13,964 --> 00:34:14,835 Great. 776 00:34:14,835 --> 00:34:16,663 Thanks a lot. 777 00:34:16,663 --> 00:34:20,667 And don't feed it after midnight. 778 00:34:20,667 --> 00:34:22,364 On the hatch. 779 00:34:22,364 --> 00:34:23,626 Get out of the house. 780 00:34:23,626 --> 00:34:25,759 Setting up a movie like that right away, 781 00:34:25,759 --> 00:34:29,067 you know you're only in for a ride, because you 782 00:34:29,067 --> 00:34:31,591 know those three rules are going to be 783 00:34:31,591 --> 00:34:35,160 broken over and over again. 784 00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:39,338 And I'll never forget the audience's reaction 785 00:34:39,338 --> 00:34:40,817 as the shit hits the fan. 786 00:34:40,817 --> 00:34:42,689 [grimlin squealing] 787 00:34:42,689 --> 00:34:45,300 MICHAEL: And the cute and cuddly Mogwai's 788 00:34:45,300 --> 00:34:47,215 evolve into these, like, reptilian 789 00:34:47,215 --> 00:34:49,739 sharp-toothed, clawed creatures that 790 00:34:49,739 --> 00:34:50,958 are attempting to kill a mom. 791 00:34:50,958 --> 00:34:53,787 [grunting] 792 00:34:53,787 --> 00:34:56,094 MICHAEL: Or taking out the school of science teacher. 793 00:34:56,094 --> 00:34:59,358 [yells] 794 00:35:01,708 --> 00:35:04,319 What the hell is going on? 795 00:35:04,319 --> 00:35:07,931 GIGI: Between Gremlins and Gremlins 2. 796 00:35:07,931 --> 00:35:11,065 [yelling] 797 00:35:12,458 --> 00:35:13,720 GIGI: You put the two movies together, 798 00:35:13,720 --> 00:35:17,463 and it's easily over 230 kills. 799 00:35:17,463 --> 00:35:20,553 I mean, it's fantastic. 800 00:35:20,553 --> 00:35:23,295 What better family movie could you ask for? 801 00:35:23,295 --> 00:35:24,513 [laughing] 802 00:35:24,513 --> 00:35:28,213 HOWARD: This is what is classic cinema. 803 00:35:28,213 --> 00:35:29,997 You don't expect these things. 804 00:35:29,997 --> 00:35:33,305 Someone has to go in a direction that no one 805 00:35:33,305 --> 00:35:34,784 either thought of going before. 806 00:35:34,784 --> 00:35:37,526 [yelling] 807 00:35:39,137 --> 00:35:41,965 HOWARD: Or was told not to, like a naughty boy. 808 00:35:41,965 --> 00:35:46,274 Joe Dante, he did his job. 809 00:35:46,274 --> 00:35:50,539 He screwed some kids up back then. 810 00:35:50,539 --> 00:35:53,760 [gremlin laughing] 811 00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:55,849 [thunderclaps] 812 00:35:55,849 --> 00:35:59,374 [projector whirring] 813 00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:08,731 No! 814 00:36:08,731 --> 00:36:09,428 Hurry! 815 00:36:09,428 --> 00:36:11,430 Help me! 816 00:36:11,430 --> 00:36:13,519 Help! 817 00:36:13,519 --> 00:36:16,043 Hey, Mister. 818 00:36:16,043 --> 00:36:19,873 The only thing that concerns me is the preservation of life! 819 00:36:19,873 --> 00:36:22,441 Some of our clothes are from victims. 820 00:36:22,441 --> 00:36:25,270 You might bite someone, and then you see, 821 00:36:25,270 --> 00:36:26,749 ooh, those are some nice pants. 822 00:36:26,749 --> 00:36:30,231 [yelling] 823 00:36:38,631 --> 00:36:40,589 JONAH RAY: Shaun of the Dead is like one of the best 824 00:36:40,589 --> 00:36:42,635 zombie movies ever made. 825 00:36:42,635 --> 00:36:45,246 It's also just happens to be one of the best comedies ever made. 826 00:36:45,246 --> 00:36:47,422 ALEX: There are few times when you see a film, 827 00:36:47,422 --> 00:36:49,816 and you just think somebody has arrived, like, with 828 00:36:49,816 --> 00:36:51,557 their own style totally intact. 829 00:36:51,557 --> 00:36:53,428 And I want to see everything they do forever. 830 00:36:53,428 --> 00:36:54,821 And so I think Edgar Wright kind of 831 00:36:54,821 --> 00:36:58,346 has his own place in this pantheon beyond just 832 00:36:58,346 --> 00:36:59,173 horror comedy. 833 00:36:59,173 --> 00:37:00,435 It's almost balletic. 834 00:37:00,435 --> 00:37:02,132 It really comes out of a very specific 835 00:37:02,132 --> 00:37:03,873 style of British filmmaking. 836 00:37:03,873 --> 00:37:07,268 Something that Edgar Wright did absolutely perfectly 837 00:37:07,268 --> 00:37:12,534 was to mirror the mundaneness of being in a rut 838 00:37:12,534 --> 00:37:14,797 and going to a job that you just go through the motions. 839 00:37:14,797 --> 00:37:16,016 You got red on you. 840 00:37:16,016 --> 00:37:17,670 CHAD: That opening is just phenomenal, 841 00:37:17,670 --> 00:37:20,847 the shot-for-shot match from the normal day of going to work. 842 00:37:20,847 --> 00:37:21,804 And then, also-- 843 00:37:21,804 --> 00:37:23,197 Hey. 844 00:37:23,197 --> 00:37:24,894 You did. 845 00:37:24,894 --> 00:37:27,201 CHAD:--the zombie apocalypse happening around you, and not 846 00:37:27,201 --> 00:37:28,158 noticing the difference. 847 00:37:28,158 --> 00:37:29,682 Nelson. 848 00:37:29,682 --> 00:37:31,684 You know, all hell's breaking loose in the background, 849 00:37:31,684 --> 00:37:33,163 and they're just going about their business. 850 00:37:33,163 --> 00:37:34,817 They have absolutely no idea what's going on. 851 00:37:34,817 --> 00:37:37,080 That's probably the biggest, I think, influence that it's had. 852 00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:38,647 We've seen that in many horror comedies 853 00:37:38,647 --> 00:37:40,127 since then, where people are just, 854 00:37:40,127 --> 00:37:41,694 like, da da da da da, like, you know, gabbing away, 855 00:37:41,694 --> 00:37:44,044 and then horrible things are happening right behind them. 856 00:37:44,044 --> 00:37:45,698 This guy's going through a breakup, 857 00:37:45,698 --> 00:37:48,483 so he's more concerned with that than he is with the zombies. 858 00:37:48,483 --> 00:37:51,138 And so the zombies always pose an actual threat. 859 00:37:51,138 --> 00:37:53,271 There is always this kind of scary element to it, 860 00:37:53,271 --> 00:37:56,622 and it's the characters reaction to that which can be funny. 861 00:37:56,622 --> 00:37:58,667 Dibi dibi dibi dibi di. 862 00:37:58,667 --> 00:38:00,190 Ooh. 863 00:38:00,190 --> 00:38:01,844 Dibi dibi dibi dibi dibi di. 864 00:38:01,844 --> 00:38:03,629 Ooh. 865 00:38:03,629 --> 00:38:05,587 One of the things that really works about Shaun of the Dead 866 00:38:05,587 --> 00:38:07,720 is those relationships feel so real-- 867 00:38:07,720 --> 00:38:11,201 the stepfather that you've never bonded 868 00:38:11,201 --> 00:38:14,727 with, the girlfriend that you're constantly disappointing. 869 00:38:14,727 --> 00:38:15,902 That's how you know my name? 870 00:38:15,902 --> 00:38:17,120 Yeah. 871 00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:19,471 Smooth. 872 00:38:19,471 --> 00:38:21,168 I'm sorry, Shaun. 873 00:38:21,168 --> 00:38:24,040 TANANARIVE: The friend you can't quite pull yourself away from. 874 00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:25,215 Oh! 875 00:38:25,215 --> 00:38:28,088 [laughs] Oh my god, that's wrong. 876 00:38:28,088 --> 00:38:30,177 I will stop doing them when you start laughing. 877 00:38:30,177 --> 00:38:32,005 TANANARIVE: They feel like real characters, 878 00:38:32,005 --> 00:38:34,790 and that's the key to creating real horror. 879 00:38:34,790 --> 00:38:36,923 That's why the horror works, is because the characters 880 00:38:36,923 --> 00:38:38,141 are so strong. 881 00:38:38,141 --> 00:38:42,450 That movie is so much fun and so funny. 882 00:38:42,450 --> 00:38:45,366 For 2/3 of the film, it's a comedy with horror elements. 883 00:38:45,366 --> 00:38:46,933 I think that for me. 884 00:38:46,933 --> 00:38:48,935 TED: And as soon as they reach the bar-- 885 00:38:48,935 --> 00:38:50,458 [bell tolling] 886 00:38:50,458 --> 00:38:53,548 it becomes a horror movie with comedy elements. 887 00:38:53,548 --> 00:38:56,812 That final act just kicks your ass 888 00:38:56,812 --> 00:39:01,208 because you don't expect it to be as scary and as upsetting 889 00:39:01,208 --> 00:39:03,515 as it is because you've just gone on this silly joy 890 00:39:03,515 --> 00:39:04,951 ride with these characters. 891 00:39:04,951 --> 00:39:06,953 And all of a sudden, you've got major characters 892 00:39:06,953 --> 00:39:08,389 getting torn limb from limb. 893 00:39:08,389 --> 00:39:10,043 You've got major characters dying, 894 00:39:10,043 --> 00:39:12,393 and the stakes suddenly just, like, explode. 895 00:39:12,393 --> 00:39:13,829 Come on, what's wrong? 896 00:39:13,829 --> 00:39:15,483 I didn't want to be a bother. 897 00:39:15,483 --> 00:39:17,267 MICHAEL: When Shaun's mother gets infected 898 00:39:17,267 --> 00:39:19,400 and they have to decide what to do about her, 899 00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:22,795 that's played straight, and it's played for drama and emotion. 900 00:39:22,795 --> 00:39:25,667 And because the characters have been set up so well, it works. 901 00:39:25,667 --> 00:39:28,670 And you have this unexpectedly moving moment in the midst 902 00:39:28,670 --> 00:39:30,063 of all this comedic craziness. 903 00:39:30,063 --> 00:39:32,108 I never thanked you. 904 00:39:32,108 --> 00:39:34,241 For what? 905 00:39:34,241 --> 00:39:35,198 For these. 906 00:39:35,198 --> 00:39:37,549 The callbacks are incredible. 907 00:39:37,549 --> 00:39:39,159 I'm sorry, Shaun. 908 00:39:39,159 --> 00:39:41,161 JONAH RAY: The lines that come back and mirror each other 909 00:39:41,161 --> 00:39:42,510 from the beginning to the end. 910 00:39:42,510 --> 00:39:43,468 Oh, god! 911 00:39:43,468 --> 00:39:46,558 [chuckles] That's not funny. 912 00:39:46,558 --> 00:39:49,169 Stop doing it when you stop laughing. 913 00:39:49,169 --> 00:39:50,823 I'm not laughing. 914 00:39:50,823 --> 00:39:53,391 JONAH RAY: It's just so tightly done and so amazingly done 915 00:39:53,391 --> 00:39:54,957 that you can't deny it. 916 00:39:54,957 --> 00:39:56,481 It's just a perfect movie. 917 00:39:58,091 --> 00:40:00,659 [siren wailing] 918 00:40:07,361 --> 00:40:10,625 TED: Return of the Living Dead is the feature directorial debut 919 00:40:10,625 --> 00:40:13,889 of Dan O'Bannon, who we previously 920 00:40:13,889 --> 00:40:17,327 knew from having written Alien and countless other weird, 921 00:40:17,327 --> 00:40:20,243 mostly sci-fi stuff. 922 00:40:20,243 --> 00:40:21,680 Brains. 923 00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:24,073 TED: What a way to come out swinging. 924 00:40:24,073 --> 00:40:27,642 [yelling] 925 00:40:29,514 --> 00:40:33,431 Like, my feature directorial debut is this, like, holy shit. 926 00:40:33,431 --> 00:40:35,171 I would have killed for that to have been 927 00:40:35,171 --> 00:40:36,608 my first film as a director. 928 00:40:36,608 --> 00:40:38,392 How do you kill something that's already dead? 929 00:40:38,392 --> 00:40:39,872 Well, how do I know, Fred? I don't know. 930 00:40:39,872 --> 00:40:40,873 Let me think. 931 00:40:40,873 --> 00:40:42,701 It's not a bad question, Burt. 932 00:40:42,701 --> 00:40:44,485 As soon as it starts off, you have this great rapport between 933 00:40:44,485 --> 00:40:45,530 these blue-collar workers. 934 00:40:45,530 --> 00:40:47,401 These are split dogs. 935 00:40:47,401 --> 00:40:49,447 Yep, for veterinarian schools. 936 00:40:49,447 --> 00:40:51,405 Oh, we got a lot of orders for split dogs. 937 00:40:51,405 --> 00:40:52,406 - That's pretty rad. - Yeah. 938 00:40:52,406 --> 00:40:53,494 [growls] 939 00:40:53,494 --> 00:40:54,930 Don't fool around you're learning. 940 00:40:54,930 --> 00:40:56,497 NATHANIEL: And then he accidentally opened 941 00:40:56,497 --> 00:40:58,020 this canister and just unleashed what is ultimately going 942 00:40:58,020 --> 00:40:59,239 to be probably the apocalypse. 943 00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:00,283 What the fuck? 944 00:41:00,283 --> 00:41:01,937 Jesus H Christ. 945 00:41:01,937 --> 00:41:04,505 NATHANIEL: But the film, it always just has this very kind 946 00:41:04,505 --> 00:41:06,507 of fun, bouncy tone to it. 947 00:41:06,507 --> 00:41:08,378 There's hundreds of those things out there. 948 00:41:08,378 --> 00:41:09,292 100? 949 00:41:09,292 --> 00:41:10,642 Stupid asshole. 950 00:41:10,642 --> 00:41:13,079 Watch your tongue, boy, if you like this job! 951 00:41:13,079 --> 00:41:14,341 Like this job? 952 00:41:14,341 --> 00:41:15,516 But with Return of the Living Dead, 953 00:41:15,516 --> 00:41:17,257 it's like you also get one of the best 954 00:41:17,257 --> 00:41:19,433 punk rock movies of the '80s. 955 00:41:19,433 --> 00:41:21,130 They have the different types of punks. 956 00:41:21,130 --> 00:41:22,654 You have the gutter punk with the mohawk. 957 00:41:22,654 --> 00:41:24,394 You have the more New Wave guy. 958 00:41:24,394 --> 00:41:26,396 There's just such amazing classic lines. 959 00:41:26,396 --> 00:41:27,267 No. 960 00:41:27,267 --> 00:41:28,050 He got a job. 961 00:41:28,050 --> 00:41:29,356 What a dick! 962 00:41:29,356 --> 00:41:30,749 Oh, great, here's your friend and mine. 963 00:41:30,749 --> 00:41:32,315 Hey, fuck you, ball buster. 964 00:41:32,315 --> 00:41:34,100 You think this is a fucking costume? 965 00:41:34,100 --> 00:41:35,754 This is a way of life. 966 00:41:35,754 --> 00:41:40,019 There's enough of that kind of stuff that is so great, 967 00:41:40,019 --> 00:41:43,457 leading into just all of them getting offed. 968 00:41:43,457 --> 00:41:45,372 NATHANIEL: First, Linnea Quigley is 969 00:41:45,372 --> 00:41:47,330 one of the all-time iconic horror characters. 970 00:41:47,330 --> 00:41:49,463 The way she delivers her lines before she transforms, 971 00:41:49,463 --> 00:41:51,073 it's still hysterically funny. 972 00:41:51,073 --> 00:41:56,165 Do you ever wonder about all the different ways of dying, 973 00:41:56,165 --> 00:41:57,123 you know, violently? 974 00:41:57,123 --> 00:41:58,864 Every character is so vivid. 975 00:41:58,864 --> 00:41:59,908 How was your day? 976 00:41:59,908 --> 00:42:01,127 Usual crap. 977 00:42:01,127 --> 00:42:02,345 are you crazy? 978 00:42:02,345 --> 00:42:03,303 Are you on PCP? 979 00:42:03,303 --> 00:42:05,740 Give me the bone saw. 980 00:42:05,740 --> 00:42:08,047 NATHANIEL: And it's a horror movie, where you actually 981 00:42:08,047 --> 00:42:09,744 care about the characters. You know they're all screwed. 982 00:42:09,744 --> 00:42:11,398 You've seen zombie movies. 983 00:42:11,398 --> 00:42:12,617 You know, they're probably not going to make it to the end, 984 00:42:12,617 --> 00:42:14,270 but you just enjoy hanging out with them. 985 00:42:14,270 --> 00:42:16,142 I just want to party. 986 00:42:16,142 --> 00:42:18,231 JONAH RAY: You using running zombies 987 00:42:18,231 --> 00:42:19,885 and talking zombies, which is something that I 988 00:42:19,885 --> 00:42:21,800 would normally be very against. 989 00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:23,758 But with this, it's like they use 990 00:42:23,758 --> 00:42:25,543 it just to keep the energy up. 991 00:42:25,543 --> 00:42:27,501 [yelling] 992 00:42:27,501 --> 00:42:29,111 JONAH RAY: The fastness of the zombies, 993 00:42:29,111 --> 00:42:30,678 like, really lends itself to just being exciting 994 00:42:30,678 --> 00:42:31,592 the entire time. 995 00:42:34,726 --> 00:42:37,206 JONAH RAY: Like, I can't think of a better example, 996 00:42:37,206 --> 00:42:39,208 if you saw it as a kid, you'd think it's horrific. 997 00:42:39,208 --> 00:42:40,862 [yelling] 998 00:42:40,862 --> 00:42:43,299 And then as an adult, yeah, it's like you're just having 999 00:42:43,299 --> 00:42:44,823 the best time of your life. 1000 00:42:44,823 --> 00:42:46,389 That's what makes Return of Living Dead 1001 00:42:46,389 --> 00:42:48,000 the most perfect horror comedy. 1002 00:42:54,702 --> 00:42:56,748 Can I have a piece of toast? 1003 00:42:56,748 --> 00:43:00,882 There are three or four ways to do horror comedy correctly, 1004 00:43:00,882 --> 00:43:02,841 and there are 300 or 400 ways to do it wrong. 1005 00:43:02,841 --> 00:43:06,845 An American Werewolf in London is to me the slam dunk of here's 1006 00:43:06,845 --> 00:43:08,455 how you do a horror comedy. 1007 00:43:08,455 --> 00:43:13,373 It has everything you want it to have. 1008 00:43:13,373 --> 00:43:15,767 NATHANIEL: It's about 50% pure horror. 1009 00:43:15,767 --> 00:43:17,420 [yelling] 1010 00:43:17,420 --> 00:43:18,770 50% kind of black comedy. 1011 00:43:18,770 --> 00:43:19,858 Holy shit. 1012 00:43:19,858 --> 00:43:21,599 And the lead character, you know, 1013 00:43:21,599 --> 00:43:23,209 he's doomed, basically, after the first 10 1014 00:43:23,209 --> 00:43:24,036 minutes of the movie. 1015 00:43:24,036 --> 00:43:26,386 Take your life, David. 1016 00:43:26,386 --> 00:43:27,692 Kill yourself. 1017 00:43:27,692 --> 00:43:29,084 NATHANIEL: Which the movie never forgets. 1018 00:43:29,084 --> 00:43:31,217 I'm a fucking werewolf, for Christ's sake! 1019 00:43:31,217 --> 00:43:33,959 Snarl. 1020 00:43:33,959 --> 00:43:35,787 NATHANIEL: And I think the humor, 1021 00:43:35,787 --> 00:43:37,571 it sort of distracts you from that a little bit. 1022 00:43:37,571 --> 00:43:38,964 Thank you. 1023 00:43:38,964 --> 00:43:40,226 NATHANIEL: I mean, when you have him running 1024 00:43:40,226 --> 00:43:41,531 naked through the park with the balloons, 1025 00:43:41,531 --> 00:43:42,750 you know, and the little kids response. 1026 00:43:42,750 --> 00:43:44,404 A naked American man stole my balloon. 1027 00:43:44,404 --> 00:43:45,579 What? 1028 00:43:45,579 --> 00:43:46,928 NATHANIEL: Stuff like that is great. 1029 00:43:46,928 --> 00:43:48,495 [yells] 1030 00:43:48,495 --> 00:43:49,931 But it's not really the engine that drives the movie. 1031 00:43:49,931 --> 00:43:51,803 You're not real. 1032 00:43:51,803 --> 00:43:53,892 I don't be a putz, David. 1033 00:43:53,892 --> 00:43:56,111 CHAD: How is this decomposition of my best friend 1034 00:43:56,111 --> 00:43:58,766 who keeps haunting me in my dreams 1035 00:43:58,766 --> 00:44:00,333 something that is entertaining? 1036 00:44:00,333 --> 00:44:02,030 And I think it just because they're calling 1037 00:44:02,030 --> 00:44:03,423 out each other's bullshit. 1038 00:44:03,423 --> 00:44:06,034 You're one of the undead, and I'm a werewolf. 1039 00:44:06,034 --> 00:44:08,341 Yes, that's right. 1040 00:44:08,341 --> 00:44:10,822 I will not be threatened by a walking meatloaf. 1041 00:44:10,822 --> 00:44:12,519 Oh, god damn it, David. 1042 00:44:12,519 --> 00:44:13,955 Please believe me. 1043 00:44:13,955 --> 00:44:16,436 It's about just seeing behind the curtain saying, 1044 00:44:16,436 --> 00:44:18,046 like, just stop the act. 1045 00:44:18,046 --> 00:44:21,136 And like, you are right now the trouble for everybody 1046 00:44:21,136 --> 00:44:22,137 else right now. 1047 00:44:22,137 --> 00:44:23,269 You need to be aware of that. 1048 00:44:26,838 --> 00:44:28,666 Jesus Christ! 1049 00:44:28,666 --> 00:44:30,929 RICKY: Seeing that werewolf transformation scene-- 1050 00:44:30,929 --> 00:44:32,670 Oh, God! 1051 00:44:32,670 --> 00:44:34,976 RICKY: As the first time, I ever felt sorry for somebody, like, 1052 00:44:34,976 --> 00:44:38,197 going through that experience. 1053 00:44:38,197 --> 00:44:41,809 Just feel so bad for him. 1054 00:44:41,809 --> 00:44:44,333 The amount of sweat that's happening 1055 00:44:44,333 --> 00:44:47,815 from the pain of the transformation, it's visceral 1056 00:44:47,815 --> 00:44:51,689 watching his hand just grow like that. 1057 00:44:51,689 --> 00:44:55,562 It's, like, oh my god, it's painful, you know. 1058 00:44:55,562 --> 00:44:57,651 You help me! 1059 00:44:57,651 --> 00:44:59,609 [groaning] 1060 00:44:59,609 --> 00:45:05,528 And when he does turn into the werewolf, 1061 00:45:05,528 --> 00:45:07,182 that empathy goes away. 1062 00:45:07,182 --> 00:45:08,053 He's a monster. 1063 00:45:08,053 --> 00:45:10,403 [growling] 1064 00:45:10,403 --> 00:45:13,058 Then you're just feeling empathy for the people 1065 00:45:13,058 --> 00:45:13,885 that he killed. 1066 00:45:13,885 --> 00:45:14,842 Did you hear something? 1067 00:45:14,842 --> 00:45:16,104 - Just now? - Yes. 1068 00:45:16,104 --> 00:45:17,062 No. 1069 00:45:18,585 --> 00:45:20,892 RICKY: And then the subway sequence. 1070 00:45:20,892 --> 00:45:24,156 [growling] 1071 00:45:25,592 --> 00:45:27,376 Good Lord, what the hell. 1072 00:45:27,376 --> 00:45:30,553 RICKY: Oh, my goodness. 1073 00:45:30,553 --> 00:45:34,688 To this day, to this day, always do look around. 1074 00:45:38,866 --> 00:45:40,476 Once he turns into the werewolf, 1075 00:45:40,476 --> 00:45:42,696 the comedy pretty much ends. 1076 00:45:42,696 --> 00:45:44,132 That whole Piccadilly circus free 1077 00:45:44,132 --> 00:45:45,830 for all that ensues with the werewolf, 1078 00:45:45,830 --> 00:45:47,832 some people find it hilarious. I think it's pretty horrifying. 1079 00:45:50,835 --> 00:45:52,358 I mean, it's just nonstop carnage. 1080 00:45:52,358 --> 00:45:55,927 [snarling] 1081 00:45:55,927 --> 00:45:57,711 [yelling] 1082 00:45:57,711 --> 00:46:00,540 David? 1083 00:46:00,540 --> 00:46:02,063 Is it you? 1084 00:46:02,063 --> 00:46:03,151 NATHANIEL: Jenny Agutter has this look of pure sorrow 1085 00:46:03,151 --> 00:46:04,587 on her face that she made this one 1086 00:46:04,587 --> 00:46:06,285 last ditch attempt to save him. 1087 00:46:06,285 --> 00:46:07,852 Please let me help you. 1088 00:46:10,506 --> 00:46:12,291 NATHANIEL: And she fails. 1089 00:46:12,291 --> 00:46:14,162 [gunshots] 1090 00:46:14,162 --> 00:46:15,947 It kind of just stabs you in the heart, 1091 00:46:15,947 --> 00:46:17,426 and you don't realize it did it for a minute. 1092 00:46:17,426 --> 00:46:18,863 You're just, like, whoa, what? 1093 00:46:18,863 --> 00:46:20,995 SAM: I think an important tenet of monster movies 1094 00:46:20,995 --> 00:46:24,042 is the tragedy and the fact at American Werewolf in London 1095 00:46:24,042 --> 00:46:27,306 is as funny as it is, and still finds its way to that ending. 1096 00:46:27,306 --> 00:46:32,224 That abrupt no-hope-for-David ending is incredible. 1097 00:46:32,224 --> 00:46:34,748 Life mocks me even in death. 1098 00:46:34,748 --> 00:46:36,663 [snarls] 1099 00:46:36,663 --> 00:46:40,058 [projector whirring] 1100 00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:47,761 [laughter] 1101 00:46:50,198 --> 00:46:52,853 You'll never get credit for my discovery. 1102 00:46:52,853 --> 00:46:56,552 Who's going to believe a talking head get a job in a sideshow? 1103 00:46:56,552 --> 00:46:57,597 Oh! 1104 00:46:57,597 --> 00:47:01,035 [giggling] 1105 00:47:01,035 --> 00:47:03,298 MAN: Now, imagine what a toy like Megan 1106 00:47:03,298 --> 00:47:04,778 could do for hundreds of thousands 1107 00:47:04,778 --> 00:47:06,867 of kids, even the ones who don't have dead parents? 1108 00:47:12,568 --> 00:47:18,661 MAN: I am all ready dead. 1109 00:47:18,661 --> 00:47:21,490 Nice fucking model! 1110 00:47:21,490 --> 00:47:24,711 WOMAN: Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice! 1111 00:47:24,711 --> 00:47:27,453 Oh, you're so cool, Brewster. 1112 00:47:27,453 --> 00:47:29,324 [laughs] 1113 00:47:29,324 --> 00:47:32,458 MAN: I approve very highly of your choice. 1114 00:47:36,766 --> 00:47:39,813 [giggling] 1115 00:47:41,380 --> 00:47:42,555 BARBARA [ON PHONE]: I don't want to cause a fuss. 1116 00:47:42,555 --> 00:47:44,122 We're coming to get you, Barbara. 1117 00:47:47,342 --> 00:47:50,041 Same attacks. 1118 00:47:50,041 --> 00:47:52,086 The undead surround me. 1119 00:47:52,086 --> 00:47:53,783 Do you ever talk to a corpse? 1120 00:47:53,783 --> 00:47:55,655 It's boring. 1121 00:47:55,655 --> 00:47:57,744 [eerie music] 1122 00:48:00,268 --> 00:48:03,576 What are the must-see Stephen King adaptations? 1123 00:48:03,576 --> 00:48:06,100 Here's Johnny. 1124 00:48:06,100 --> 00:48:09,669 There's some that I think really work and some that don't. 1125 00:48:09,669 --> 00:48:12,019 When you're adapting Stephen King, 1126 00:48:12,019 --> 00:48:13,934 the story is the most important thing. 1127 00:48:14,021 --> 00:48:16,154 โ™ช 1128 00:48:16,154 --> 00:48:18,373 And there's always a darkness to it. 1129 00:48:18,373 --> 00:48:21,724 The ice is gonna break. 1130 00:48:21,724 --> 00:48:22,769 Paul: Annie, please! 1131 00:48:22,856 --> 00:48:24,814 โ™ช 1132 00:48:27,252 --> 00:48:29,341 [eerie music] 1133 00:48:59,937 --> 00:49:03,462 Bad for the environment. 84634

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