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[singing]
โชโช Children crying for Jesus โช
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โชโช I love you โช
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I think he's insane, I think
he's evil as evil could be.
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[man 1] All the way through,this guy is a serial murderer.
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[man 2] When I wasstanding next to him,
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every instinct in my body was,
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somebody should put
a gun to his temple
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and pull the trigger.
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He thought
I was Jesus for real.
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So, I let him
tell his story to me.
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The guard opened the door
and there he was,
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smiling, going,
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"I knew you were Jesus.
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You've come
to take care of me."
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[man 3] Hadden Clark startedworshipping Jack Truitt
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because he thought
Jack Truitt was Jesus Christ.
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I beat him up a lot.
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He would ask me,
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"Jesus is supposed
to be non-violent."
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I said, "Yeah, but I'm trying
to beat the devil out of you."
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[crying] And then,
the worst thing of all,
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he murders
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a little girl. Oh, no.
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He wrote his
whole diary out to me.
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I asked him, I said, "Why did
you do this to these people?"
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He said, "I saw
my father do it."
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He's told me
he's killed people
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in Provincetown, Block Island.
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[man 4] Hadden probably killed
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several peopleup in Massachusetts.
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[Jack] When he wasin the Navy, he said
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he killed peoplein every port he was in.
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He said, "I likedwhat she had on,
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I put her clothes onafter I killed her."
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All these picturesthat he drew
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were crime scenes.
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-[dog barking]
-[dispatch] Slow down.Go down the alley.
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[man 5] He is justevil incarnate.
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[officer] Go, go, go!
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[man 6]
As soon as he gets out,we're gonna track him down,
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and we haveto put him in the ground.
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We're gonna kill him.
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My name
is John Patrick Truitt.
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Most people know me as Jack,
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because I don't like John.
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Nothing againstthe Johns in the world,
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but the only time
I got called John
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is when they put me in prison.
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In 1999,
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I was doing a life sentence
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for murder.
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One of the jurors,
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I had dated his daughter,
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and he did not like me.
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It wasn't a good trial.
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I've been in prisonfor 26 years.
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Never expected to get out.
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I was being transferred
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to another jail...
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along with about eight of us.
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This guy,
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that got on the bus
with all of us,
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was doing this.
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Rocking back and forth,
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going... [groaning softly]
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Making this godawful,
weird-ass smile.
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Which, you don't
do that in prison.
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You don't stare at somebody,
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especially the way he was
staring at me, with this grin.
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Like you would see
in one of them movies,
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like the Joker.
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-Ugh.
-[Joker cackling]
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Crazy.
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I said, "God, I hope
that's the last I see of him."
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We get to the cell.
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The door opens,
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and there he is.
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[exhales] I'm thinking,
"This ain't right, man."
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He just
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looks at me, and he goes,
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"Jesus, I know
God sent you to me.
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I have a lot
to talk to you about."
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I said, "No you don't."
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I got up into bed,
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turned my back on this guy,
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and went to sleep.
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The next morning I wake up,
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he's sitting over
on the toilet, just writing.
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He told me,
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"I'm gonna tell youeverything I did,
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so I can be forgiven."
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He really believes
that I'm Jesus Christ.
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He had to confess to me,
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that he killed someone
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in every state
in the United States.
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I'm like,
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"Who is this guy?"
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He's going,
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"Nobody knows this.
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But I know where
Michele is buried."
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I said, "Who the hell
is Michele?"
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[man 1] I remember whenMichele was turning six,
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she had her birthday party
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arranged for her class
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to come to Chuck E. Cheese.
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I'm Carl Dorr,Michele Dorr's father.
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And I have this
picture in my mind of her
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doing the can-can withall the little girls and boys,
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and just giggling
and having a good time.
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[man 2] Michele Dorr isa cute little six-year-old
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with brown hairand a bubbly personality.
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I am Jim Trusty.
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And I worked atthe state's attorney's officein Montgomery County.
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Unfortunately, she wasa kid that was
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going through some tough timesin terms of a pretty...
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Uh, what's the word
I would use?
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A pretty angry divorce.
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[Carl] On Memorial Day weekend
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in 1986,
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Michele's mother, Dorothy, had
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made plans to travel
to Virginia Beach,
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visiting her family.
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I had physical custodyof Michele.
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I thought we would just havea nice, leisurely May 31st.
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I would do whatever
Michele wanted that day.
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My time was her time.
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It was a very hot day.
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I stuck a hosein the kiddie pool
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in the backyard.
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Went back to the house.
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Watched the Indianapolis race.
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Carl knew she was
gonna be out in the yard,
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and he kind of settled in
to watching the race.
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And the hours really passed
without any sort of event.
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Michele came inside the house.
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I saw her get the multicolored
towel that she was carrying.
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Go out the back door.
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Thought that I heard that
Geoff's children were home.
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Geoff Clark was another
separated father
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who had,
a good friend of Michele's
at the time, Elizabeth.
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I assumed that Michele was
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outside next door
at the Clark family.
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My name is Geoffrey Clark.
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Michele
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was of a family of divorce,
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and so she came
to visit her dad
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every other weekend.
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She would come overand she made friendswith Elizabeth.
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So, it wasn't unusual
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for us to come home
from not being here
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and find her sitting on
the front stoop waiting.
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[Carl] 5:45, I walked overto the Clark house.
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Looked in the backyard.
There was the Clark family.
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I asked them,
"Where's Michele?"
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And Geoff said,"Well, she's not here."
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And I said, "What do you mean
she's not here?"
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"She's been here
playing with Elizabeth. I..."
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"No, Elizabeth hasn't
seen her."
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Like, I...
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That didn't register at all.
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So that completely
freaked me out.
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And I started to panic.
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So we had
a neighborhood search.
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Dorothy, Michele's mother,
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didn't tell mewhere she was going to be
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or leave a numberother than to say
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that she was goingto see her family.
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And I didn't have a number
to call her either.
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Then I just pointed my car at
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the nearest police station
and reported her missing.
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We went over the last time Iapproximately saw her
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when she cameinside the house.
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Probably around 2:00
in the afternoon.
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And that's really
the last time
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I laid eyes on her.
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The police,
they took it very seriously.
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That night, there wasn'tanything I could do,
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and I was worried to death.
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The following day,the detectives, you know,
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wanted to startdoing an investigation
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and asking questionsand that sort of thing.
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They pretty much just wanted
the facts and they wanted...
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One of the things they
wanted me to do to...
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to clear the parents
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was to take a polygraph test,
which I immediately agreed to.
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Of course, they startwith easy questions like,
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"What is your name,date and birthday?"
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And then they started askingquestions about Michele.
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I told them
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that the bestI could remember last,
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uh, seeing Michele
was around two o'clock
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that Saturday afternoon.
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But I wasn't sure.
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You know, I hadn't been
watching the clock.
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And then they started
asking questions about
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if I had done anything,
any harm to Michele.
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And then later,
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Detective Farrell told meI failed the polygraph test.
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And I said, "No.
You've got the wrong guy."
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And he says, "No. I'vetalked to Michele's mother.
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And she tells me that
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you would have done
something with Michele.
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And I'm accusing you of
having killed your daughter."
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[Jim] Carl Dorris Michele's father.
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And he was married to Dorothy,or Dee Dee as we call her.
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That marriage had
fallen on tough times.
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And there had been a lot
of negative comments made,
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including Carl
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threatening to the effect of,
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you know, "If I can't
have, uh, Michele...
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you won't have her either."
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So they puta lot of time and energy
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into really crackingCarl Dorr,
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trying to find out
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if he had a horrible secret
that was gonna
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solve the case very quickly.
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I knew I was
a suspect at that point.
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The detective was in my face,
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screaming at me.
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"We don't find a child
like Michele's age
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when it's been over 24 hours.
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That means your child
is gonna end up dead."
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It was a terrible,
terrible experience.
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And it was gonna
drive me nuts.
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[Jim] The police canvassedthe neighborhood to see
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what kind of informationanyone would have.
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One thing that was helpful wasa gardener nearby who,
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during the courseof that afternoon,
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wanted to borrow
a telephone from
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the Clark household,
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who lived next doorto Michele Dorr.
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So he was in the doorstep
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of the Clark household.
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And he was met by
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Geoff Clark'sbrother, Hadden...
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who briefly talked to him.
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He rememberedasking for a phone.
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But also seeing a small girlinside the house.
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No real deep
description there,
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but something that at least
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started to make
that link between
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Michele Dorr
and the Clark household.
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[Geoffrey] I remember the kidsand I were out back there
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cooking hamburgers
and hot dogs
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and having a,
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you know, Memorial Day weekend
kind of day,
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when all of a sudden
these cops
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come swarming
into the backyard.
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Michele was missing.
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And they asked about her.
So I'm like,
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"Go through the yard. Look."
You know.
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You know,the general questionsthey were asking if,
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you know, when we'd
last seen Michele,
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where we had been.
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And of course,they asked about Hadden.
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So, unfortunately,
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as you look around my home
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and you see
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the chaotic naturethat I live in...
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Here's...
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a few pictures I found.
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So this is me
right here in the middle.
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This is Brad.
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This is Hadden.
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Hadden was born in 1952.
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I was born in 1955.
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My brother Hadden had
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serious developmental issues.
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When he was still very little,
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my mother worked very hard
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to provide what she could.
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Hadden could smile.
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He couldn't do nothing else.
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He could at least give
a good smile once in a while.
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[chuckles]
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Things were wrong with Hadden
from the start.
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[automated voice speaking]
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[Hadden speaking]
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[automated voice speaking]
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[Michael speaking]
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[Hadden speaking]
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[Michael speaking]
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[Michael speaking]
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[Hadden speaking]
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[Geoffrey] He didn't talk.
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I remember stories about
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my mom having people over
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and just manipulating his body
when he was really little,
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trying to gethis muscles moving.
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[Michael speaking]
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[Hadden speaking]
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When I was starting to walk,
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my mom would knock me down
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to try to prevent me
from getting the gist of it
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because Hadden
wasn't walking yet.
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There were mental thingsthat were not right.
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[Hadden speaking]
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[Michael speaking]
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[Hadden speaking]
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[Michael speaking]
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[Hadden speaking]
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[Michael speaking]
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[Hadden speaking]
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[Geoffrey] Hadden spenta lot of time
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in different
specialized schools
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to try to deal with
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the other matters that
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caused him to be antisocial.
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[Hadden speaking]
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[Geoffrey] When he graduatedfrom high school,
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I guess that would be
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'70 or so,
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Hadden got into
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The Culinary Instituteof America.
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And after that,he just started
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traveling around,
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taking jobs here and there.
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[Jim] We startedto see this pattern.
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He'd have a job,
he'd get fired,
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he'd take off with
all of the cutlery
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and slash all the tires
in the parking lot.
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In 1985,
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Hadden had beendischarged from the Navy
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and he was kind of
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in-between work,
in-between housing,
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so he went to stay
with his brother for a while.
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[Geoffrey] He hadno place to go
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and he needed my help.
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So I invited him tocome stay for six months.
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I met Stephanie,who became my wife,
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during the time
Hadden was living here.
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And I didn't want himto know her.
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I didn't want her to know him.
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So I asked him to move out,
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'cause he'd already
overextended the time
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I had offered to him
by more than double.
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[Jim] On the dayMichele disappeared,
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Geoff ordered him to leave.
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And Geoff took his familywith him, including Elizabeth,
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just to kind of clear the way
to let Hadden
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get his stuff together
and get out of that house.
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So we were gone for...
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hours.
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[Jim] A short time later,the detectives brought Hadden
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to the Montgomery CountyPolice Department to talk.
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On the day in question,
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he basically said
he was at his job
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at Chevy Chase Country Club.
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And eventuallythere was a time card
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that was presented to them
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that showed beingat the club at 2:46 p.m.
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If the times were rigid,
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if 2:10 wasexactly the last time
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that Carl hadseen his daughter,
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and if 2:46 was
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exactly the time
that Hadden Clark
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showed up for work at
the Chevy Chase Country Club,
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it was a prettyeffective alibi.
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It was literally gonna beimpossible to show
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that this man had
time in that window
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to kidnap a small child
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or clean up the crime scene
as he might need to do.
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Law enforcement didn'tspend any real time
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and resources focusing on
Hadden Clark at that point,
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any more than
any other neighbor.
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[Carl]
As I was watching the news,I guess on Saturday night...
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All I can say is
basically we are
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asking a lot of questions.
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Part of the investigation
is questioning people.
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We have to question
all of the family members.
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...I started hallucinating.
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I thought the police weretalking about me
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or something odd.And it's just
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a total disintegration
of my mental health.
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I got this
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delusional thinkingthat I could somehow,
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you know, bring herback to life or something.
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It was just
the only way I could cope.
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It was the only hope I had
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of ever seeing her
alive again.
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[Carl] Eight daysafter Michele was missing,
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I had this
delusion of grandeur
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that I had this power
of resurrection.
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And if I had that power,
then I must be Jesus.
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So I wentto tell Michele's mother.
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And unfortunately, this guy,
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Edward Jagen, was there.
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Ed Jagen
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was a private investigator
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that had injected himself
into the search for Michele.
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Earlier that week,
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for some reason,
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Ed Jagen was obsessed
with the crawl space
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under my bedroom
in Silver Spring.
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So I'm thinking to myself,
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maybe he's killed my daughter.
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And he's giving meall of these clues
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that he's buried Micheleunder my crawl space.
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So I accused him
of being the devil,
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and we needed to go
to my house in Silver Spring
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and find Michele.
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So they called the police,
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and that's wherethey searched.
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[reporter] Michele disappearedfrom her father's home.
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He's given conflictingaccounts of the event,
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including claiming to haveburied her in his house.
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And that's the story
that got out in 1986,
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that I confessed
to killing Michele
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and burying her
in the crawl space.
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At no point did I ever confess
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to myself
having killed Michele.
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[Jim] Carl Dorrwas saying all sortsof outlandish things,
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such as she'sunder a crawl space.
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They would gocheck the places thathe specifically identified,
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and there was nothing there.
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And so they realizedduring that interrogation,
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this guy was losing it.
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I mean, the stress
of losing his daughter,
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the stress of being accused,
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the stress
of public accusation,
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all of that conspired
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to put Carl Dorr
in a terrible state of mind.
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The waiting and hoping go on,
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but tonight
the physical search
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for six-year-old Michele Dorr
is ended.
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Michele's father is no longerunder psychiatric evaluation.
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[interviewer]
What do you hope for?
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I hope that somebody has her
that hasn't harmed her.
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That's what I hope.
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[interviewer]
Do you still feel that
you'll see her someday?
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I hope to God, yes.
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Like any homicide case,
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time is not
usually your friend
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if you're trying to solve it.
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And in this case,
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Michele's body was
not turning up.
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And it just got to a point
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where it started to fade
from public conscience.
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It was really nowhere to go.
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On October of 1992,
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there's another high-profilemissing person
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in Montgomery County.
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[man] She wasa resident of Bethesda.
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She lived therewith her mother
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when she wasn't in school.
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My name is Ed Tarney.
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I was a detective investigator
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in the Major Crimes Division,
Montgomery County Police.
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At that time,Hadden Clark was working
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for her mother as a gardener.
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I'm Richard Fallin, and I'm
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a retired
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Montgomery County Policehomicide detective.
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We told our sergeant
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that the gardener was
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a guy named Hadden Clark.
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Well, the sergeant just froze
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and looked at me, and he said,
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"Hadden Clark?"
I said, "Yeah."
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He said, "That was
a suspect in Michele Dorr."
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After we started looking
into the Michele Dorr case,
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we go back and try to
figure out what happened.
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Why wasn't Haddena suspect here?
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And we find out, well, he was,
but he had an alibi.
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And so I said, "Okay, well,
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you know,
we'll check that out."
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[Edward] There wasa very short period there,
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from Carl seeing her last
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to Hadden punchinghis time card.
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So, Carl
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essentially had given
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Hadden Clark an alibi
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because of the time
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that he had saidhe last saw Michele.
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I rememberreading in the case file
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that Carl
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was just saying
some bizarre stuff.
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He was going through
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a bitter divorce,
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his daughter is missing,
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and the police are
all over him.
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He just had a breakdown.
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I just put myselfin his place, you know,
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trying to understand
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why he was acting
the way he was.
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And it just dawned on me.
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I went to him one afternoon.
I said, "Carl...
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this is what I think happened.
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I think you fell asleep
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and you lost track of time,
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and you didn't want
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to be blamedas an irresponsible father
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in this divorce situation.
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And I think you
embellished that time."
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And he admitted to me
that was true.
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[Carl]
And I'm expected to give thema minute-by-minute blow
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of what happened
that afternoon.
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I made a statement
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to the best of my ability
at that time.
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And the best I could do
was approximations.
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When we talked to him,
he started marching the time
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earlier and earlier
in the afternoon
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to something closer
to the lunch hour
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than two o'clock.
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And that made a big difference
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in terms of crumbling
Hadden Clark's apparent alibi.
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It certainly gave Hadden
enough time to do
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his deed.
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During that investigation,they found out
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that Hadden, that night,
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went to Naval Medical Centerafter he got off work.
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He had a cut on his hand.
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Maybe cut himselfwith a knife.
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[Richard] So we're thinking,
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he murdered Michele Dorr.
We just can't prove it.
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[reporter] Six-year-oldMichele Dorr vanished
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over the Memorial Day weekendin 1986
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while playing in a wading poolin her father's backyard.
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At first,police suspected him.
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Now the case is reopened,
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and police arefocusing on Hadden Clark.
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Clark lived with his brothertwo doors down from Carl Dorr.
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[Geoffrey] As soonas the cops had told us
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that Michele was missing,
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I knew thatHadden was responsible
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for whatever had happened.
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At the time,
it was only suspicions,
528
00:26:56,900 --> 00:26:57,930
and there wasn't...
529
00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:01,200
There were not yet facts to
530
00:27:01,260 --> 00:27:02,800
really back things up.
531
00:27:06,100 --> 00:27:09,300
[Edward] At the time thatMichele Dorr went missing,
532
00:27:09,360 --> 00:27:12,200
Geoff and his new girlfriend
533
00:27:12,260 --> 00:27:14,600
had left for the day,
534
00:27:14,660 --> 00:27:17,000
and Hadden was
left there alone
535
00:27:17,060 --> 00:27:18,330
to move his stuff out.
536
00:27:19,660 --> 00:27:20,930
And I remember
537
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:22,900
we gathered everything up
538
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:24,700
and went down
to the residence.
539
00:27:25,660 --> 00:27:26,930
And we did a search.
540
00:27:29,900 --> 00:27:31,700
[Geoffrey] They thencame back to us,
541
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:33,400
to me,
542
00:27:33,460 --> 00:27:35,400
uh, to ask if they could do
543
00:27:35,460 --> 00:27:37,130
forensic work upstairs.
544
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:40,200
[Edward] We thoughthe might have killed
545
00:27:40,260 --> 00:27:42,900
Michele upstairs
in Elizabeth's bedroom.
546
00:27:43,900 --> 00:27:45,230
[Jim] And that ledthe detectives
547
00:27:45,300 --> 00:27:47,400
and the investigators upstairs
548
00:27:47,460 --> 00:27:49,300
to this very small room.
549
00:27:49,360 --> 00:27:51,900
And they investigated heavily.
550
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:54,900
And one of the thingsthat was most fascinating,
551
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:56,900
the wooden grooves,
552
00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:58,830
the wooden slats of the floor,
553
00:27:58,900 --> 00:28:01,130
had an appearance
of something that had been
554
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:04,030
soaked in a material,
and then cleaned.
555
00:28:05,060 --> 00:28:07,500
We tore up the entire floor
in the bedroom.
556
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:13,600
And that's when the chemist
was able to develop some...
557
00:28:13,660 --> 00:28:15,500
What she believed
was human blood.
558
00:28:17,260 --> 00:28:19,130
And that's where they found
559
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:20,300
the leftover blood
560
00:28:20,360 --> 00:28:22,600
down in the cracks
from Michele.
561
00:28:22,660 --> 00:28:24,300
[crying softly] Oh...
562
00:28:34,660 --> 00:28:37,100
[reporter]
Montgomery County Policewere very busy yesterday
563
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:38,000
in Silver Spring.
564
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:39,600
They weresearching for evidence
565
00:28:39,660 --> 00:28:41,830
and collected evidencein the home of Geoffrey Clark,
566
00:28:41,900 --> 00:28:43,260
Hadden Clark's brother.
567
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,130
[Edward] From that point,I contacted everybody that
568
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:50,630
lived in that house
569
00:28:50,700 --> 00:28:53,700
to find out if
anybody had bled
570
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:54,630
in that bedroom.
571
00:28:55,700 --> 00:28:58,300
And the prior owners
572
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:00,400
said there was nobody
that bled up there.
573
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,500
So, was it Michele's blood?
574
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:08,830
DNA wasn't as developedback then as it is now.
575
00:29:08,900 --> 00:29:12,230
So, with that, all we have
is mitochondrial DNA.
576
00:29:13,300 --> 00:29:14,800
[Jim] Mitochondrial DNA
577
00:29:14,860 --> 00:29:17,500
was actually very newback in 1999.
578
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:21,330
It's more exclusionarythan it is inclusionary.
579
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:24,200
They couldn't say,
this is Michele Dorr's blood,
580
00:29:24,260 --> 00:29:25,400
but they could say
581
00:29:25,460 --> 00:29:27,600
that the blood was
inconsistent with
582
00:29:27,660 --> 00:29:30,000
the occupants of the house,
the Clark family.
583
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:33,800
And when you start withthat basic presumption,
584
00:29:33,860 --> 00:29:35,700
we have thisopportunity to say,
585
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:36,600
"This is where it happened."
586
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:43,100
[Geoffrey] I thinkI already had
587
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,230
a form of knowing
588
00:29:46,300 --> 00:29:48,130
that it had happened here.
589
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,600
But I'm just so grateful that
590
00:29:50,660 --> 00:29:52,700
forensic science
has come along.
591
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:56,330
[reporter] Bright-eyedsix-year-old Michele Lee Dorr
592
00:29:56,400 --> 00:30:00,130
was last seen aliveon May 31st, 1986.
593
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,100
Now, 12 years later,
594
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:03,700
police have finally arrested
595
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:05,700
the man they believeto be her killer,
596
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:08,500
Geoffrey Clark'sbrother, Hadden.
597
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:10,800
Despite extensive searchesearlier this year,
598
00:30:10,860 --> 00:30:13,700
Michele Dorr's bodyhas never been found.
599
00:30:22,260 --> 00:30:24,230
[Jim] I mean, there was a lotof challenges in this case.
600
00:30:24,300 --> 00:30:26,530
And one ofthe biggest handicaps was
601
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:28,800
that we did not have
a body recovered.
602
00:30:30,660 --> 00:30:33,100
[Edward] Sometimesa circumstantial case,
603
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:34,730
jurors can understand those,
604
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:37,230
because it's just
a common sense thing.
605
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:40,130
[Jim] We actuallythink that, Michele,
606
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:41,800
in a lot of ways is a victim
607
00:30:41,860 --> 00:30:43,230
of him being evicted.
608
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,000
Hadden Clark wasthe type of guy
609
00:30:47,060 --> 00:30:48,400
who would get very angry,
610
00:30:48,460 --> 00:30:50,400
who would take offense,
and who would overreact.
611
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:52,900
[Edward] Michele cameto the house.
612
00:30:54,660 --> 00:30:56,930
He said that
Elizabeth was upstairs
613
00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:58,030
playing in the bedroom,
614
00:30:58,100 --> 00:30:59,330
and she could go on up.
615
00:31:01,060 --> 00:31:03,400
Since he was a chef,he had these knives.
616
00:31:04,100 --> 00:31:06,230
And that's
617
00:31:06,300 --> 00:31:07,700
when he went upstairs
618
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:10,230
and confronted Michele.
619
00:31:10,300 --> 00:31:13,130
And he killed her
in Elizabeth's bedroom.
620
00:31:23,900 --> 00:31:26,830
[crying] I welcomed him
into my home.
621
00:31:28,300 --> 00:31:31,130
He had no place to go.
622
00:31:34,860 --> 00:31:36,100
And then
623
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,000
the worst thing of all
624
00:31:38,060 --> 00:31:40,730
is I'm realizing
he can't stay here
625
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:42,130
and I tell him
he has to leave,
626
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:43,600
he gets so mad at me
627
00:31:43,660 --> 00:31:45,700
he murders a little girl.
628
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:48,130
[crying] Oh, God.
629
00:31:50,700 --> 00:31:52,900
I don't know how he got evil.
630
00:31:53,660 --> 00:31:55,800
I don't know when he got evil.
631
00:32:05,460 --> 00:32:07,130
Hadden Clark was convicted of
632
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,200
second degree murder
by the jury.
633
00:32:12,100 --> 00:32:12,960
The conviction
634
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,300
carried a possible penalty
of 30 years.
635
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:17,500
He got 30 years.
636
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:20,830
In the immediate aftermath
of the verdict,
637
00:32:20,900 --> 00:32:23,000
it was mostly just
a feeling of relief.
638
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:25,730
[Carl] Michele was...
639
00:32:28,860 --> 00:32:30,130
you know, a six-year-old
640
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,100
with her whole life
in front of her.
641
00:32:33,260 --> 00:32:35,700
She wanted to be a teacherwhen she grew up.
642
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:39,000
And that dayis not gonna happen,
643
00:32:39,060 --> 00:32:40,230
unfortunately.
644
00:32:42,660 --> 00:32:44,700
I'm just so sorry she was
645
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:47,400
at the wrong place
at the wrong time
646
00:32:47,460 --> 00:32:48,500
and she met...
647
00:32:49,900 --> 00:32:51,160
Hadden Clark.
648
00:32:55,100 --> 00:32:57,530
We were happy we had
taken a shot at this case,
649
00:32:57,600 --> 00:32:58,800
that we had gotten
a good result,
650
00:32:58,860 --> 00:33:01,130
that we had gotten him
off the streets
651
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,430
for effectively what would be
the rest of his life.
652
00:33:04,300 --> 00:33:05,730
But there were open questions.
653
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:07,000
Where was Michele's body?
654
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:09,500
That alwaysnagged at us, you know.
655
00:33:10,460 --> 00:33:13,500
[Edward] After Haddenis convicted,
656
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:14,900
he gets sent
657
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:16,900
to the Western
Correctional Institute
658
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,200
in Western Maryland.
659
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:29,830
[Hadden speaking]
660
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:34,900
He's full of crap.
661
00:33:36,260 --> 00:33:37,430
[Hadden speaking]
662
00:33:40,100 --> 00:33:41,400
Oh, my God.
663
00:33:41,460 --> 00:33:44,700
Well then, I'm telling you,
this is [bleep]
664
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:46,230
[Hadden speaking]
665
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,400
[Jack] In 1999,
666
00:34:05,300 --> 00:34:08,000
I'm on the third daywith Hadden,
667
00:34:08,700 --> 00:34:10,300
and I don't know
668
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:11,530
what I'm going to do with him
669
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:15,230
for some of the stuff he's
coming out of his mouth with.
670
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:19,000
Well, he had no problemtelling me about
671
00:34:19,060 --> 00:34:21,230
how he ate body parts.
672
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:28,330
This is mental stuff.
673
00:34:32,700 --> 00:34:34,830
I just told him, I said,"Look, man...
674
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:40,200
whatever you're saying,
just write it down.
675
00:34:40,260 --> 00:34:43,600
When you feel like you need
to tell me something,
676
00:34:43,660 --> 00:34:45,930
draw it, write it.
677
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:47,700
Don't talk to me about it."
678
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:51,400
And he said, "Okay."
679
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:53,930
And that's when
he started, man.
680
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,700
He was just going crazy
writing [bleep] down.
681
00:34:59,660 --> 00:35:01,500
Haddon's art
682
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:03,300
was so creepy.
683
00:35:04,460 --> 00:35:06,530
[Michael speaking]
684
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:08,700
[Hadden speaking]
685
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:23,000
[Michael speaking]
686
00:35:23,060 --> 00:35:24,430
[Hadden speaking]
687
00:35:27,100 --> 00:35:30,600
[Jack] All the peoplehave real big eyes.
688
00:35:31,660 --> 00:35:34,600
There's drawings
of everything.
689
00:35:36,700 --> 00:35:38,600
If you see it, you'll go,
690
00:35:38,660 --> 00:35:40,500
"Oh, I don't want
to see that no more."
691
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:44,530
He would draw clues
692
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:46,900
to other people he killed.
693
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:50,500
And then
694
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:52,600
he told me he killed Michele.
695
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:55,130
I was like,
696
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:58,300
"Oh, God, but I wanted
697
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:00,700
this guy killing
a little girl."
698
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:03,930
I said, "Why are youtelling me?"
699
00:36:05,260 --> 00:36:07,330
He said,"Because you're Jesus."
700
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:11,930
He was convincedI was Jesus Christ.
701
00:36:12,900 --> 00:36:14,000
I mean, no doubt.
702
00:36:15,100 --> 00:36:16,130
He believed
703
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:18,230
that my father
704
00:36:18,300 --> 00:36:19,830
had sent me
705
00:36:19,900 --> 00:36:22,500
into the system to help him
706
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:25,400
confess all his crimes
707
00:36:25,460 --> 00:36:27,030
and to move on.
708
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:31,930
You're a prisoner.
709
00:36:33,060 --> 00:36:34,930
And you're put in
with this guy.
710
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,100
He's talking to you
711
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:40,700
like you're Jesus Christ,
712
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:42,130
and he believes it.
713
00:36:44,060 --> 00:36:47,230
And I started
playing with that.
714
00:36:49,060 --> 00:36:50,400
I told Hadden,
715
00:36:50,460 --> 00:36:52,500
I need to know
716
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:55,830
where this little girl
is resting.
717
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,630
Then I called my wife, Jackie,
718
00:36:59,700 --> 00:37:01,200
and I said, "Jackie,
719
00:37:01,260 --> 00:37:02,430
please call
720
00:37:02,500 --> 00:37:05,830
any law enforcement
that you may know
721
00:37:07,260 --> 00:37:08,900
that you can trust.
722
00:37:10,700 --> 00:37:12,800
[Jackie] He thoughtthis guy was a nut job.
723
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:14,400
But for some reason,
724
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:16,900
Jack thoughtmaybe he could find
725
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:18,160
Michele's body.
726
00:37:24,700 --> 00:37:25,700
[Jackie] Jack called meone night and said
727
00:37:25,700 --> 00:37:28,430
that he was in the cellwith Hadden Clark...
728
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:30,860
and that he had
729
00:37:30,860 --> 00:37:33,430
killed a little girl
named Michele Dorr,
730
00:37:33,500 --> 00:37:36,200
and that her body
had never been found.
731
00:37:37,260 --> 00:37:39,500
[Jack] All I could think about
732
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:42,130
is somebody doing that
to my kids.
733
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:45,430
I would hope and pray
734
00:37:45,500 --> 00:37:48,400
that they would be doing
what I'm doing.
735
00:37:48,460 --> 00:37:51,200
[Jackie] That's when I wentto the police department,
736
00:37:51,260 --> 00:37:53,500
and they gave me
Joe Gamble's number.
737
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:58,730
My name is Joe Gamble.
738
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:01,130
I was a Maryland State Police
homicide detective.
739
00:38:02,700 --> 00:38:05,300
January of 2000,
740
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:08,230
I traveled toWestern Correctional Institute
741
00:38:09,060 --> 00:38:11,000
to interview Jack.
742
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:15,130
Jack is
743
00:38:16,100 --> 00:38:17,400
pretty laid back,
744
00:38:17,460 --> 00:38:19,900
um, more laid back
than I'd ever seen anyone
745
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:22,030
in the prison system.
746
00:38:22,100 --> 00:38:23,600
And he's kind of a cool guy.
747
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,500
Back in the '60s and '70s,
748
00:38:28,460 --> 00:38:32,230
I was responsible for bringing
cannabis to the shore.
749
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:34,700
And I'm kind of proud of it.
750
00:38:36,460 --> 00:38:37,700
[Joe] Jack told me that
751
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:42,300
Hadden had
murdered Michele Dorr
752
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:46,600
and buried her in a park in
Montgomery County, Maryland.
753
00:38:47,700 --> 00:38:50,500
Joe would ask me, "What do you
think about this?"
754
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:53,900
I said, "I don't think
he's lying to me, man."
755
00:38:55,660 --> 00:38:57,000
[Joe] I then request
756
00:38:57,100 --> 00:38:57,930
one ofthe correctional officers
757
00:38:57,930 --> 00:39:00,400
to bring Hadden Clark
into the room.
758
00:39:01,660 --> 00:39:03,130
I introduced myself to him
759
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:05,430
and said, "I understand that,
760
00:39:05,500 --> 00:39:07,230
you know, you'd liketo talk to me."
761
00:39:07,300 --> 00:39:09,900
"As long as he stays,"
looking at Jack.
762
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:11,000
I said, "Well, he can stay."
763
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:13,930
[Jack] That's true.
764
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:17,600
He had told everybody,
765
00:39:17,660 --> 00:39:19,530
"If Jesus is not with me,
766
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:21,500
I'm not talking."
767
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:25,900
You know,
and I introduced myself.
768
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:27,230
Um, he was quiet.
769
00:39:28,700 --> 00:39:30,900
Once we broke through there,
770
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:34,530
it was almost like this
more shy kind of person
771
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:35,800
was now
772
00:39:37,100 --> 00:39:38,600
kind of excited
773
00:39:38,660 --> 00:39:40,430
that he had an audience.
774
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:42,900
And he was very excited
775
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,600
about sharing details.
776
00:39:46,900 --> 00:39:49,000
Joe's got the ability.
777
00:39:50,100 --> 00:39:51,530
You can trust him.
778
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:54,200
And me being in there,
779
00:39:55,100 --> 00:39:58,000
Hadden could pick up
I trusted him.
780
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:05,000
So Hadden was telling me
about how he buried Michele,
781
00:40:05,060 --> 00:40:07,300
where he buried her
and how exactly he did it.
782
00:40:11,300 --> 00:40:14,200
Now, back 25, 30 years ago,
783
00:40:14,260 --> 00:40:16,500
on a reclining chair,
784
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:19,000
you would have actually
a box spring
785
00:40:19,060 --> 00:40:20,900
with metal springs,
786
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:23,100
you know,the size of the seat.
787
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:24,300
He said he dug a hole
788
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:26,130
and then put the bodyin the hole.
789
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:31,400
And then he put a box spring
over the top of it.
790
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:34,100
And then covered that upwith dirt and leaves.
791
00:40:36,100 --> 00:40:37,300
He said, that way,
792
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:40,030
animals, if they
started digging down,
793
00:40:40,100 --> 00:40:41,700
they would run into
those metal springs
794
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:43,230
and wouldn't be able
to dig the body up.
795
00:40:49,300 --> 00:40:50,700
I've dug up a lot of bodies
796
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:53,400
in the woods and in fields
all across the state.
797
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:57,200
But never had I
encountered someone that
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00:40:57,260 --> 00:40:59,700
had thought it through
that well,
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00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:02,500
to actually put a metal
box spring over the hole.
800
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:07,200
And I could tell that this man
had murdered people before.
801
00:41:08,260 --> 00:41:09,600
It was obvious that he had
802
00:41:09,660 --> 00:41:11,630
been involved in some
803
00:41:11,700 --> 00:41:13,300
very horrific acts.
804
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:17,900
There was no doubt
in my mind, though, there were
805
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:19,300
other victims out there.
806
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:23,830
[dog barking]
807
00:41:23,900 --> 00:41:25,900
[officer] Over here!
Got something!
808
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:26,860
[dog continues barking]
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