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[dramatic music]
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♪
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- She saw the white female
walking over toward this car.
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- Only about 10%
of all murders
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are committed by women.
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- It's crazy.
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- It may be rare,
but it's no less brutal
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for the victims and
their loved ones left behind.
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- Tonight, on "The First 48:
Critical Minutes"...
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- She does not
look like a killer.
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- Detectives are shocked
by the suspect
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in a woman's shooting.
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- Chick's wearing yoga pants.
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She's still able
to conceal a gun.
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- An argument in a parking lot
explodes into violence, and...
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- A couple makes a plan
that goes deadly wrong.
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[dramatic music]
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♪
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narrator: Tulsa, Oklahoma,
1:51 p.m.
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[sirens wailing]
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narrator: Paramedics arrive...
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And find a woman on the ground
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with a gunshot wound
to the chest.
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They rush her to the hospital,
but she dies.
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- Sounds like they've got
a car leaving the scene,
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so that could be
a definite lead
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on figuring out
who the shooter could be.
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Who's the victim?
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narrator:
31-year-old Jade Jones,
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a Missouri native,
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lived with her boyfriend
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near the lot
where she was shot.
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She leaves behind
four children.
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- She gets shot and walks
back up here and drops?
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- Yeah.
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- All right,
so who do we have out here?
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- We've got the boyfriend.
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He's that guy over there.
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narrator: The victim's
boyfriend was on the scene
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when first responders arrived.
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- He said he saw
a white SUV leaving...
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- Yeah.
- After he heard the shot.
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- This lady over here...
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- Her husband supposedly
got on a bike
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and chased after
the stolen Denali.
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- The guy whose girlfriend
got shot,
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that was his bike.
- His bike.
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narrator: The woman's husband
attempted to follow
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the suspects
when they stole his SUV.
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- We need to find that guy.
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- And see if we can try
to find this damn Denali.
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- I'm gonna go
start interviews, dude.
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narrator: Detectives Ritter
and Max Ryden
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will head back
to interview witnesses.
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- And how do you know Jade?
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narrator: She says that,
according to Jade,
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the husband fell asleep
on the couch.
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narrator: She said she quickly
drove to Jade's house
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and found paramedics
trying to save her.
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- Was your husband there?
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- What car is that?
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- And was it there?
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- OK. Sit tight here.
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We're gonna do something
real quick.
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Then we're almost done, OK?
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narrator:
Ritter goes in to speak with
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the victim's boyfriend.
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- Man, I think you
kind of know,
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and I just wanna be
completely honest with you
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about Jade, OK?
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You know it's not good, right?
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- Yeah, she passed away.
I just wanted to--
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- I'm super sorry. I really am.
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It's a terrible deal.
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Walk me through--
when you got up, who was there?
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- OK.
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- And what did she say?
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- Have you seen her before?
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- Does this Sevyn chick and
Jade have a beef from before?
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- Do they even know each other?
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- Like, in a good way,
a bad way? What?
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- Do you think
this could be as simple as
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she went out there lipping off
about the phone,
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and this other chick thought
she was a badass and shot her?
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- I can only think about
a handful of homicides
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that I've ever worked
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that a female has been
a suspect.
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Women don't tend to be
as violent as men,
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and women don't tend to
react as violently
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to different situations
as men.
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Very rarely
do you catch a woman
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that would've reacted
in that manner--
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will allow a situation
to escalate in a manner
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where she shoots somebody
for no reason.
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- The victim told him
that Sevyn is the shooter.
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He said he thinks
her first name is Ashley.
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So I'm trying to run it
and get a real name.
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- Hey, Ritter, we just got--
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narrator: An officer still
at the scene calls in.
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- Ashley Good.
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narrator:
24-year-old Ashley Good
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has several prior convictions,
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including theft
and assault and battery.
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- She has
an Irish mob affiliation.
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- With the Irish mob,
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the thing I'm seeing is that
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the women are more dangerous
than the men.
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narrator: Detectives track
down the owner of the Denali
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four blocks
from the crime scene.
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- So today,
you went over to Jade's?
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- [distorted voice]
Yeah.
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narrator: He says he picked up
Ashley Good
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on the way over
to see the victim.
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- So what was the reason
for picking her up?
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- And Sevyn is still
in the car?
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- OK.
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- What did she say
on the phone?
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- What did she say exactly?
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- Any idea where
she would go right now?
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- All right, man,
I appreciate you.
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Come with me.
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[tense music]
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♪
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This is her right here.
June 6th, five days ago.
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Man, she does not
look like a killer.
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Both the victim
and the suspect,
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they're females,
which is not typical.
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It's also not very common
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where the female suspect's
using a firearm.
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Usually, it's more of
a fight or a stabbing.
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I've got an arrest warrant
issued for her now
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for murder
and did an auto theft report,
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so if some officer in some
other city runs across it,
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it'll come up as stolen.
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Right now,
we just need to find her.
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- This Sevyn chick,
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she thinks
she's a little gangster.
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We need to catch her
as soon as we can.
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She's dangerous.
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- Do you know Ashley--Sevyn?
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- If she ended up
coming by here,
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would you call the police?
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♪
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narrator: The Denali turns up
nearly 50 miles away.
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- She's in freakin' Muskogee
now.
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So Muskogee finds the truck.
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It's in a field.
- Like, burned?
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- Nah, but I mean, like,
definitely not
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"I'm coming back
for this thing."
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[phone rings]
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- Hey, how you doin'?
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narrator: A tip comes in.
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- All right, man.
Have a good one.
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- What'd he say, Justin?
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- She is at a house.
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It's directly next-door
to the fire station,
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and it's a white house,
and she's there right now.
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- Ashley, we got Ashley maybe.
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- Just got a call
that Ashley is over at a house.
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This chick is like a ghost.
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[knocking on door]
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[knocking continues]
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- Hey, come here.
- Come here.
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- Come on.
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narrator: Detectives clear
four people from the house.
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- Who else is in there?
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- A girl that goes by "Sevyn,"
Ashley Good...
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- Is she in your house?
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She obviously is, because
you haven't said "no" yet.
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- Let's go.
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Police!
Anyone else in here, come out!
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Let me see your hands.
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Get your hands up.
- Hands up!
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- Ashley, come here.
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Get down on the ground.
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[handcuffs click]
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Go.
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Hey, I haven't patted her down.
She's got cuffs on.
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♪
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- Look at this thing.
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- She had a pistol,
like, in her waistband.
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Chick's wearing yoga pants.
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She's still able
to conceal a gun.
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- It is important
not to underestimate
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a potential threat
because it's a woman,
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because you're still
talking about a woman
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that took somebody's life.
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You're still
talking about a woman
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that's very, very volatile.
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You're still
talking about a homicide
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that made absolutely
no sense at all.
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So it shows that this person
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could possibly
be out of control,
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and one thing
they've already demonstrated
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is that they're violent.
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That could've
been very, very bad,
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had they not
discovered that firearm.
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- Ashley, I'm Detective Ritter.
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Obviously,
we're investigating a homicide,
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and we've been looking for you,
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and I wanna talk to you
about it.
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But before I can,
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I need you
to sign and date there.
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You don't wanna talk to us?
- Mm-mm.
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Not without a lawyer.
- OK.
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You're a curious individual
to me.
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I'd like to talk to you
about the path you ended up on
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and so--
- I know that the past--
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like you said,
the path I ended up on--
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- Mm-hmm.
- Like, the things
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I read, like--
- No, I'm not--
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- Do stuff and whatnot?
That's not who I am at all.
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- OK.
When you do get a lawyer,
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if you wanna talk to me,
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I would be up to doing that.
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You're gonna be booked today.
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You're going to jail
for the murder.
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I'm not surprised
that she lawyered up.
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There's not really any reason
for her to talk at all.
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She's in a pretty tough spot.
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♪
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narrator: Birmingham, Alabama,
11:00 p.m.
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A man rushes his girlfriend
into the emergency room.
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She has been shot in the head.
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Doctors try to save her,
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but she doesn't survive.
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- We got a call of
a female being shot
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inside of a car.
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So the car is supposed
to be our crime scene.
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narrator: According
to responding officers,
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the victim was shot once
in the head.
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- The victim was shot through
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the driver's side window
of the car.
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narrator:
The victim's boyfriend
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and three young children
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have already been transported
to Homicide.
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They were in the car with her
when she was shot.
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- Kids were in the back seat.
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♪
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narrator: The victim is
23-year-old Rosetia Smith.
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She was known
for her sense of humor
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and her devotion
to her three boys.
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♪
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- In your own words,
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you wanna tell me
what you saw tonight?
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- They were hittin'
at your mom?
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Oh, they were?
261
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narrator: He says some women
were hitting his mother
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through
the driver's side window.
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- Was it one or two
or more than two?
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- More than two.
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- And of course,
in my career in homicide,
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I have had to interview
very young witnesses
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as to what they had seen
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or what they had witnessed
in a homicide.
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It takes a certain skill
to be able to do that.
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You have to be careful
in the way that you do that.
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You can't lead them.
Kids are very honest.
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So the information
that you get from this kid
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is gonna be as accurate
as they know how
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to deliver that information,
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and more than likely,
it's gonna be truthful.
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It's a heartbreaking situation
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to have to sit
in a room with a kid
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and ask him about
witnessing a homicide.
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- I'm not sure whether
the other adults have told him
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that his mama's not
gonna be with him anymore.
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Sad story right now.
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- Mm-hmm.
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narrator: He explains that
they were driving home
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from a friend's house
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when Tia spotted a car
in a parking lot
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with four women inside.
287
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- You ever seen 'em before?
288
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- Tonight's the first time?
289
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narrator: He says Tia pulled
over to confront the women,
290
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but he doesn't know why.
291
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- All right.
292
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narrator: Tia started
arguing with the women
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through their car windows.
294
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Then the women
in the other car got out.
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- Mm-hmm.
296
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- Were you present
when all this happened?
297
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- Tell me what you know
about what's been going on.
298
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narrator: She says that
the group of women who called
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had been arguing with her
over a man.
300
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Tia was over at her house
during the argument.
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- OK.
302
00:19:55,167 --> 00:19:56,792
Did they have a problem
with Rosetia?
303
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- No. No.
- No?
304
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narrator: She says Tia left
to go home
305
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before the women came over.
306
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She thinks Tia ran into them
307
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while driving
out of her neighborhood.
308
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narrator:
They find all four women.
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None of them
have criminal records.
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- [sighs]
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It's just crazy.
312
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I mean, the victim didn't have
anything to do with
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the beef that was going on.
314
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Didn't really even know
the suspect.
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Doesn't make any sense to me.
316
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- We're gonna come back
in the morning
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and try to get some
good addresses on these girls.
318
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and then go pick them up.
319
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You're gonna tell me
exactly what happened,
320
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and you, do not tell me a lie,
OK?
321
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narrator: She says that
she and three other women
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pulled into a parking lot
on the way to confront
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the victim's friend.
324
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A little while later,
325
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the victim drove up and
started yelling at them.
326
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- OK.
327
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narrator: She says the car
started pulling away.
328
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That's when
she heard a gunshot.
329
00:21:44,375 --> 00:21:46,667
- When did you
first see the gun?
330
00:21:50,958 --> 00:21:52,333
- A'ight, now--
[clears throat]
331
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This where I'ma stop.
- Mm-hmm.
332
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- Child who was sittin'
in the back seat
333
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told me about the gun.
334
00:22:00,417 --> 00:22:03,167
So I'ma ask you again.
335
00:22:03,333 --> 00:22:05,833
When did you first see the gun?
336
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♪
337
00:22:36,292 --> 00:22:37,625
- A'ight.
338
00:22:37,708 --> 00:22:39,292
Who we talkin' 'bout that said,
339
00:22:39,375 --> 00:22:42,542
"I think I done shot somebody"?
340
00:22:50,042 --> 00:22:52,542
narrator: She says her friend
LaQuintta Turk
341
00:22:52,542 --> 00:22:54,333
was the shooter.
342
00:22:59,333 --> 00:23:02,750
- And you're fighting
over what, a boy?
343
00:23:02,833 --> 00:23:04,333
Basically?
344
00:23:06,875 --> 00:23:08,500
- You never thought that
"Maybe we just need to
345
00:23:08,583 --> 00:23:10,708
just let this go"?
346
00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,458
- I tend to want to know
a whole lot more about a woman
347
00:23:16,542 --> 00:23:18,667
than I would a man--
whether or not she has kids,
348
00:23:18,708 --> 00:23:20,167
what's her connection
to her family.
349
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Does she have
a criminal history?
350
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I found that women
probably have not had
351
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the amount of encounters
352
00:23:25,417 --> 00:23:26,833
with law enforcement
than men have,
353
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and you can kind of play
on that a little bit.
354
00:23:28,625 --> 00:23:29,833
You know, "Hey, you're not
necessarily a criminal.
355
00:23:29,958 --> 00:23:31,708
"You probably made
a bad decision,"
356
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versus a man who's been
hounded by law enforcement
357
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multiple times.
358
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So you know,
the preparation for it can be
359
00:23:37,375 --> 00:23:38,708
a little bit different.
360
00:23:38,708 --> 00:23:40,292
narrator: In the next room,
361
00:23:40,417 --> 00:23:42,625
the other witness
confirms LaQuintta Turk
362
00:23:42,708 --> 00:23:43,917
as the alleged shooter.
363
00:23:47,958 --> 00:23:49,333
- And that's her.
364
00:23:49,375 --> 00:23:50,958
narrator:
22-year-old LaQuintta Turk
365
00:23:51,042 --> 00:23:52,167
has never been arrested.
366
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[suspenseful music]
367
00:23:55,083 --> 00:24:01,917
♪
368
00:24:18,375 --> 00:24:21,667
- You ended up with
three other girls.
369
00:24:21,750 --> 00:24:24,958
Start at that point,
when you met up.
370
00:24:25,042 --> 00:24:28,958
♪
371
00:24:33,708 --> 00:24:35,792
narrator: She confirms
that they were on their way
372
00:24:35,875 --> 00:24:38,958
to talk to the victim's friend
when they pulled over.
373
00:25:02,583 --> 00:25:04,625
narrator: LaQuintta says
she and her friends
374
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jumped out of their car.
375
00:25:10,125 --> 00:25:11,750
narrator: She says
two of her friends
376
00:25:11,833 --> 00:25:13,083
started fighting
with the victim
377
00:25:13,208 --> 00:25:14,875
through her car window.
378
00:25:21,375 --> 00:25:23,125
- OK.
379
00:25:23,208 --> 00:25:24,875
narrator: She claims
that the victim's boyfriend
380
00:25:24,958 --> 00:25:26,458
reached under his seat
for something.
381
00:25:26,542 --> 00:25:28,500
- What'd you guys do?
382
00:25:31,875 --> 00:25:32,833
- OK.
383
00:25:32,917 --> 00:25:34,583
Um...
384
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,750
Tell me what was
going through your mind
385
00:25:42,833 --> 00:25:45,042
when you pointed that gun
and pulled the trigger.
386
00:25:53,833 --> 00:25:55,667
[sniffles]
387
00:25:55,750 --> 00:26:00,167
- Based on the way
this situation happened,
388
00:26:00,250 --> 00:26:02,125
that's a capital murder
offense.
389
00:26:02,208 --> 00:26:04,375
- [sniffles]
390
00:26:04,375 --> 00:26:07,208
- Now I've got your statements,
391
00:26:07,292 --> 00:26:09,000
all the other witnesses',
392
00:26:09,042 --> 00:26:10,792
even the child that was
in the back seat, OK?
393
00:26:13,708 --> 00:26:15,583
- But I tell you,
394
00:26:15,708 --> 00:26:18,667
there's a mother
of three children dead tonight.
395
00:26:18,708 --> 00:26:21,083
That's messed up.
396
00:26:21,167 --> 00:26:23,333
There ain't--
there ain't nothing--
397
00:26:23,375 --> 00:26:25,667
nothing pretty
about this situation.
398
00:26:29,375 --> 00:26:31,958
A'ight.
399
00:26:49,333 --> 00:26:52,958
narrator: Charlotte,
North Carolina, 1:00 p.m.
400
00:26:54,458 --> 00:26:56,583
- [speaking Spanish]
401
00:26:58,625 --> 00:27:02,250
[sirens wailing]
402
00:27:04,458 --> 00:27:07,792
narrator: Officers respond
and find the green Honda
403
00:27:07,875 --> 00:27:10,875
in the apartment complex
parking lot with a man inside.
404
00:27:14,542 --> 00:27:17,125
- "Oscar A. Chavez, Alvarado."
405
00:27:17,208 --> 00:27:18,875
♪
406
00:27:18,958 --> 00:27:21,292
narrator:
22-year-old Oscar Alvarado,
407
00:27:21,375 --> 00:27:23,000
born in El Salvador,
408
00:27:23,083 --> 00:27:25,208
came to the U.S.
four years ago,
409
00:27:25,333 --> 00:27:28,833
leaving behind his parents
and five siblings.
410
00:27:30,042 --> 00:27:32,333
- [sighs]
411
00:27:32,375 --> 00:27:34,000
Oh, look at that.
- I know.
412
00:27:34,083 --> 00:27:35,708
narrator:
Detectives find stab wounds
413
00:27:35,792 --> 00:27:38,000
in the victim's abdomen
and neck.
414
00:27:42,708 --> 00:27:45,667
- She notices a white car,
415
00:27:45,750 --> 00:27:47,667
a white Camaro pull up
over there where my car is at.
416
00:27:47,792 --> 00:27:49,375
narrator:
According to the caller,
417
00:27:49,458 --> 00:27:51,500
she saw a white car pull in
418
00:27:51,583 --> 00:27:53,875
and a white female get out.
419
00:27:54,042 --> 00:27:58,583
- She saw the white female
walking over toward this car.
420
00:27:59,542 --> 00:28:03,042
narrator: The caller says the
woman got into Oscar's car
421
00:28:03,125 --> 00:28:05,875
and immediately began
fighting with him.
422
00:28:06,583 --> 00:28:08,333
- And then
the white male gets out.
423
00:28:08,417 --> 00:28:10,333
A young kid, a short haircut.
424
00:28:10,458 --> 00:28:13,208
narrator: The caller says
that a second suspect,
425
00:28:13,292 --> 00:28:15,917
a white male,
got out of the white car
426
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,042
and ran over and began
fighting with Oscar.
427
00:28:20,042 --> 00:28:22,083
- They're not sure
what's going on
428
00:28:22,208 --> 00:28:25,208
until they start
seeing him, like,
429
00:28:25,333 --> 00:28:27,167
with some stabbing motions.
430
00:28:27,292 --> 00:28:31,208
narrator: The 911 caller says
both suspects then fled
431
00:28:31,292 --> 00:28:32,792
in the white car.
432
00:28:34,833 --> 00:28:36,375
- Our witnesses were able
to get a tag number,
433
00:28:36,375 --> 00:28:38,667
so we're kind of banking on
a registered owner
434
00:28:38,750 --> 00:28:40,667
is also gonna be the suspect.
435
00:28:51,167 --> 00:28:52,708
- Yeah.
436
00:28:52,792 --> 00:28:55,167
narrator: The case takes
a surprising turn.
437
00:28:55,208 --> 00:28:57,375
Adam Richardson
has come forward
438
00:28:57,458 --> 00:28:58,958
to speak with detectives.
439
00:28:59,042 --> 00:29:02,583
♪
440
00:29:02,667 --> 00:29:06,583
Detective David Osorio and
Detective Susan Sarvis head in
441
00:29:06,667 --> 00:29:08,375
to speak with Adam Richardson.
442
00:29:11,250 --> 00:29:14,375
- Tell us what happened today,
just in your own words.
443
00:29:28,042 --> 00:29:29,417
narrator: According to Adam,
444
00:29:29,500 --> 00:29:32,417
a friend named
Jonathan Fitzgerald called him
445
00:29:32,500 --> 00:29:34,375
and asked for a ride.
446
00:29:41,042 --> 00:29:42,000
- OK.
447
00:29:47,708 --> 00:29:49,333
narrator: Adam says
he picked up Jonathan
448
00:29:49,417 --> 00:29:51,333
and Jonathan's girlfriend
449
00:29:51,417 --> 00:29:53,875
around 10:30 this morning.
450
00:30:06,375 --> 00:30:07,875
narrator: He says Jonathan
received a call
451
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:09,542
from an alleged drug dealer,
452
00:30:09,625 --> 00:30:11,000
who told him where to meet.
453
00:30:17,375 --> 00:30:20,667
narrator: He says the dealer's
delivery man, Oscar,
454
00:30:20,750 --> 00:30:22,792
led them to
the apartment complex.
455
00:30:26,542 --> 00:30:29,542
narrator: Adam says he parked
next to Oscar's car.
456
00:30:29,625 --> 00:30:31,208
Jonathan's girlfriend got out.
457
00:31:02,458 --> 00:31:03,958
narrator: He says when
Jonathan and his girlfriend
458
00:31:04,042 --> 00:31:05,875
got back in his car,
459
00:31:05,875 --> 00:31:07,292
Jonathan showed him drugs
460
00:31:07,375 --> 00:31:09,375
that he had taken
from the victim.
461
00:31:15,125 --> 00:31:17,500
- Where did you guys go
from there?
462
00:31:20,625 --> 00:31:22,333
- OK, at the Sleep Inn.
463
00:31:22,375 --> 00:31:26,208
- You got two people,
albeit, they are a couple,
464
00:31:26,292 --> 00:31:27,750
that's involved in a drug deal,
465
00:31:27,833 --> 00:31:29,333
a drug transaction
with someone else,
466
00:31:29,417 --> 00:31:31,417
attempts to rob him,
and it goes bad.
467
00:31:31,500 --> 00:31:34,250
Most women have a boyfriend
or a significant other
468
00:31:34,333 --> 00:31:37,083
that either ties them
to this underworld,
469
00:31:37,083 --> 00:31:39,042
or they enjoy being in
this underworld
470
00:31:39,042 --> 00:31:40,625
because of this other person.
471
00:31:40,708 --> 00:31:42,750
You know, good girls like
bad boys, so to speak.
472
00:31:42,833 --> 00:31:44,500
So typically,
women get themselves
473
00:31:44,583 --> 00:31:46,375
caught up in these situations
because of--
474
00:31:46,458 --> 00:31:48,625
someone else is
drawing them into it.
475
00:31:52,042 --> 00:31:54,375
- What's going on, guys?
476
00:31:54,458 --> 00:31:56,792
narrator: Burkard finds
Jonathan and his girlfriend
477
00:31:56,875 --> 00:31:57,958
at the hotel.
478
00:32:06,375 --> 00:32:09,625
- "Fitzgerald"?
- Mm-hmm. With a Z.
479
00:32:09,708 --> 00:32:11,333
narrator: Detective Mike Burke
480
00:32:11,417 --> 00:32:14,542
looks up Jonathan Fitzgerald
in the police database.
481
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,833
- Here's our first
identification photo.
482
00:32:19,917 --> 00:32:23,042
narrator: Jonathan is
18 years old.
483
00:32:24,667 --> 00:32:27,542
- How you doing today?
484
00:32:36,958 --> 00:32:38,333
And then...
485
00:32:38,417 --> 00:32:39,708
narrator:
According to Jonathan,
486
00:32:39,833 --> 00:32:41,292
his mother put him up
at the hotel
487
00:32:41,375 --> 00:32:42,542
for two days
488
00:32:42,667 --> 00:32:45,625
because he is about to
go back into rehab.
489
00:32:45,708 --> 00:32:47,042
- For what?
490
00:32:47,667 --> 00:32:49,042
- OK.
491
00:32:51,208 --> 00:32:53,208
narrator: Jonathan says
he and his girlfriend,
492
00:32:53,292 --> 00:32:56,667
Danielle, spent the morning
at the mall.
493
00:32:56,750 --> 00:32:59,333
Then he called his dealer
to score drugs.
494
00:33:55,792 --> 00:33:57,708
- To what he--
I mean, since he's--
495
00:33:57,833 --> 00:33:59,000
since he's lawyered up,
496
00:33:59,042 --> 00:34:00,000
you want to just go ahead
and shackle him
497
00:34:00,042 --> 00:34:01,333
and let him--
- Oh, yeah, yeah.
498
00:34:01,417 --> 00:34:02,333
- Something to
get him thinking.
499
00:34:02,417 --> 00:34:03,458
- Yes.
500
00:34:03,542 --> 00:34:04,500
- Say "you're under arrest
for murder."
501
00:34:04,542 --> 00:34:11,417
♪
502
00:34:13,917 --> 00:34:15,167
- Stand up.
503
00:34:15,250 --> 00:34:16,333
You're under arrest for murder.
504
00:34:16,417 --> 00:34:19,333
♪
505
00:34:19,375 --> 00:34:21,167
Have a seat.
506
00:34:22,958 --> 00:34:26,000
- What about Danielle?
- What about her?
507
00:34:26,083 --> 00:34:27,042
- Y'all arrest her?
508
00:34:31,750 --> 00:34:33,833
♪
509
00:34:33,917 --> 00:34:36,000
- We can't have a conversation
with you at this point.
510
00:34:36,042 --> 00:34:37,417
- All right.
511
00:34:39,625 --> 00:34:41,667
I didn't do nothing.
512
00:34:42,417 --> 00:34:43,958
- All right.
Any questions, anything else?
513
00:34:44,042 --> 00:34:45,917
You good? All right.
514
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:47,042
- Need anything, just holler.
515
00:34:54,250 --> 00:34:55,333
- That's up to you, man.
516
00:34:58,833 --> 00:35:00,208
- Yeah, I'll talk to you.
- OK.
517
00:35:10,708 --> 00:35:11,583
- No? All right.
518
00:35:17,625 --> 00:35:19,208
narrator: Jonathan says
he spoke with
519
00:35:19,375 --> 00:35:20,875
his drug dealer this morning
520
00:35:20,958 --> 00:35:23,750
and made arrangements to
meet up with a delivery guy.
521
00:35:35,542 --> 00:35:37,375
- Yeah.
522
00:36:18,500 --> 00:36:19,417
- Mm-hmm.
523
00:36:20,542 --> 00:36:21,417
- Yeah.
524
00:36:28,583 --> 00:36:29,542
- All right.
525
00:36:35,167 --> 00:36:36,583
- Um...
526
00:36:36,708 --> 00:36:39,542
♪
527
00:36:52,042 --> 00:36:54,167
- Mm-hmm.
528
00:36:58,208 --> 00:37:00,542
narrator: Jonathan says
after stabbing Oscar,
529
00:37:00,667 --> 00:37:04,333
he grabbed about $200 worth
of heroin from the car.
530
00:37:13,167 --> 00:37:14,208
Y'all have--
531
00:37:24,167 --> 00:37:29,875
♪
532
00:37:35,542 --> 00:37:37,333
narrator: Burkard looks up
Jonathan's girlfriend,
533
00:37:37,458 --> 00:37:38,833
Danielle Holmes,
534
00:37:38,958 --> 00:37:40,875
in the police database.
535
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,042
She is 17-years-old
536
00:37:43,125 --> 00:37:44,500
and has never been arrested.
537
00:37:44,625 --> 00:37:46,625
- You ready?
538
00:37:50,625 --> 00:37:52,500
Hey.
539
00:38:32,375 --> 00:38:34,750
- Wake up.
Wake up, smell the coffee.
540
00:38:34,833 --> 00:38:37,750
It's time to snap out of this--
this spell that you're in.
541
00:38:37,875 --> 00:38:39,500
This high that you're on
542
00:38:39,583 --> 00:38:42,917
or this is gonna hurt you.
543
00:38:43,042 --> 00:38:45,833
This is not looking good
for you.
544
00:38:45,875 --> 00:38:47,500
If you didn't plan
545
00:38:47,542 --> 00:38:50,667
or you didn't know that this
guy was gonna get killed today
546
00:38:50,708 --> 00:38:52,875
then you need to
tell the truth.
547
00:38:52,958 --> 00:38:54,875
You are not fooling me.
548
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:56,458
You're not fooling her.
549
00:38:56,542 --> 00:38:58,667
And you are not gonna
get out of this mess
550
00:38:58,750 --> 00:39:02,542
by doing what
you're doing right now.
551
00:39:02,625 --> 00:39:04,667
- I didn't know it
was gonna happen like that.
552
00:39:04,708 --> 00:39:08,875
♪
553
00:39:08,958 --> 00:39:12,250
- Your intention was to rob
this Mexican for the heroin.
554
00:39:12,375 --> 00:39:13,625
Yes or no?
- [crying] Yes, sir.
555
00:39:13,750 --> 00:39:15,792
- OK. We're you supposed
to rob him
556
00:39:15,875 --> 00:39:17,500
or was Jonathan supposed
to rob him?
557
00:39:17,583 --> 00:39:19,583
- I was supposed to do it
because I figured that
558
00:39:19,708 --> 00:39:21,333
if a girl went in there, like,
559
00:39:21,500 --> 00:39:23,042
he wasn't gonna attack me...
- Right.
560
00:39:23,167 --> 00:39:24,500
- As he was going to a guy.
561
00:39:24,625 --> 00:39:26,458
- And you've got a knife.
- Yes, sir.
562
00:39:26,542 --> 00:39:28,875
- OK and--
- And I got in the car
563
00:39:28,875 --> 00:39:30,333
and he turned around
564
00:39:30,458 --> 00:39:32,667
and he was, like,
smiling at me and stuff.
565
00:39:32,792 --> 00:39:34,833
And all of a sudden,
I just grabbed his head
566
00:39:34,917 --> 00:39:36,333
and pulled it back and I was
like--
567
00:39:36,417 --> 00:39:37,583
I was like,
"nothing's gonna happen.
568
00:39:37,667 --> 00:39:39,125
"Please just cooperate with me.
569
00:39:39,250 --> 00:39:41,417
Like, I'm not gonna hurt you
or nothing."
570
00:39:41,500 --> 00:39:42,917
And he just started, like,
jumping on me.
571
00:39:43,042 --> 00:39:45,000
Then I looked over
and Jonathan's in the seat.
572
00:39:45,042 --> 00:39:47,083
narrator: Danielle claims that
when Oscar started
573
00:39:47,167 --> 00:39:48,375
fighting with her,
574
00:39:48,375 --> 00:39:50,458
Jonathan came to her aid.
575
00:39:50,542 --> 00:39:52,333
- He opened the car door
and he was like--
576
00:39:52,333 --> 00:39:53,667
he was, like, yelling at him
and stuff.
577
00:39:53,750 --> 00:39:56,000
And I got scared,
so I had pulled the knife out.
578
00:39:56,083 --> 00:39:58,250
And, um, the guy--
579
00:39:58,333 --> 00:40:00,708
I mean, I guess
I accidentally cut him.
580
00:40:02,958 --> 00:40:05,083
- You say you think you're the
one that cut him on the neck?
581
00:40:05,167 --> 00:40:08,125
- Yes, sir.
582
00:40:08,208 --> 00:40:09,208
- Then what happened
after that?
583
00:40:09,292 --> 00:40:11,958
Who else--
who stabbed him again?
584
00:40:12,042 --> 00:40:14,500
- Uh, I think Jonathan
then stabbed him again.
585
00:40:16,583 --> 00:40:18,458
- You didn't think to call 911?
586
00:40:18,542 --> 00:40:20,667
- I was scared.
I mean, I didn't know.
587
00:40:20,708 --> 00:40:22,708
- Well, this guy's dying
in the car.
588
00:40:22,792 --> 00:40:25,667
- I--I didn't know it was
as bad as it was.
589
00:40:25,750 --> 00:40:28,833
We have never done anything
like this before.
590
00:40:28,958 --> 00:40:30,875
The only reason I did it
591
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,750
because I knew, like,
nothing was gonna go wrong
592
00:40:33,875 --> 00:40:37,375
and it was gonna go easy
and it didn't at all.
593
00:40:37,458 --> 00:40:39,167
Or else I wouldn't
have done it.
594
00:40:39,250 --> 00:40:42,167
I mean,
I've never done anything wrong.
595
00:40:42,167 --> 00:40:43,583
You can look at my record.
596
00:40:43,667 --> 00:40:45,208
It is completely clean.
597
00:40:45,292 --> 00:40:48,958
[crying]
598
00:40:52,958 --> 00:40:56,625
[continues crying]
599
00:40:56,708 --> 00:41:00,833
- Oh, she broke and
she admitted to being there
600
00:41:00,875 --> 00:41:02,833
and being involved in
the robbery.
601
00:41:02,917 --> 00:41:04,958
She admitted to
602
00:41:05,042 --> 00:41:08,750
planning the robbery
with her boyfriend, Jonathan.
603
00:41:08,833 --> 00:41:11,000
- As of right now,
Adam's not being charged.
604
00:41:11,083 --> 00:41:13,500
His whole intention was to go
take Jonathan and Danielle
605
00:41:13,583 --> 00:41:15,417
to this drug deal.
606
00:41:15,542 --> 00:41:18,833
He didn't know what was
gonna transpire after that.
607
00:41:18,917 --> 00:41:20,708
So Adam's just going on home.
608
00:41:28,542 --> 00:41:29,750
- Take a seat.
609
00:41:29,833 --> 00:41:30,792
I gotta be able
to shut the car door
610
00:41:30,875 --> 00:41:32,583
so just slide all the way back.
611
00:41:42,542 --> 00:41:44,208
- OK, Danielle.
612
00:41:44,292 --> 00:41:46,417
You're gonna be charged
with murder
613
00:41:46,500 --> 00:41:48,167
and armed robbery.
614
00:41:48,208 --> 00:41:49,792
You got any questions?
615
00:41:49,875 --> 00:41:52,542
- Is there any way I can say
bye to Jonathan before I go?
616
00:41:52,625 --> 00:41:54,292
- I don't even think
he's here anymore.
617
00:41:54,292 --> 00:41:56,042
- He's not?
618
00:41:56,125 --> 00:41:56,875
All right.
619
00:42:03,958 --> 00:42:05,500
- You got two people that
care about each other
620
00:42:05,583 --> 00:42:08,500
and both basically say,
"I'll take the charge"
621
00:42:08,542 --> 00:42:09,875
to allow the other one
622
00:42:09,875 --> 00:42:12,792
to go on with their life
or whatever.
623
00:42:12,875 --> 00:42:15,083
You got drugs involved,
you got weapons involved.
624
00:42:15,167 --> 00:42:16,750
I've often said and
I'll continue to say
625
00:42:16,833 --> 00:42:17,792
for the rest of my life,
626
00:42:17,875 --> 00:42:19,333
any time that you get kids
627
00:42:19,417 --> 00:42:20,667
involved with drugs
and weapons,
628
00:42:20,708 --> 00:42:21,750
it's a recipe for disaster.
629
00:42:21,750 --> 00:42:24,750
♪
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