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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,958 --> 00:00:04,917 [dramatic music] 2 00:00:05,042 --> 00:00:08,042 ♪ ♪ 3 00:00:09,542 --> 00:00:10,500 - Wow. 4 00:00:10,583 --> 00:00:12,292 This is weird. 5 00:00:12,375 --> 00:00:14,167 - When someone is murdered, 6 00:00:14,250 --> 00:00:17,208 detectives rely on witnesses to solve it. 7 00:00:17,375 --> 00:00:19,000 But when no one comes forward, 8 00:00:19,125 --> 00:00:21,083 they need the evidence to speak. 9 00:00:21,208 --> 00:00:23,708 - What we have here, Ronnie, is a whodunit. 10 00:00:23,833 --> 00:00:25,292 But I specialize in whodunits. 11 00:00:25,417 --> 00:00:28,625 - Tonight on "The First 48 Critical Minutes"... 12 00:00:28,750 --> 00:00:30,000 - My guess is that the doctor 13 00:00:30,125 --> 00:00:32,833 saw something or knew something. 14 00:00:32,917 --> 00:00:35,250 - A man stabbed, and nobody sees it. 15 00:00:38,333 --> 00:00:40,667 - A mother's brutal murder baffles detectives. 16 00:00:40,750 --> 00:00:42,875 - Did you see this, Deputy? 17 00:00:43,042 --> 00:00:44,625 - And a preacher mysteriously beaten 18 00:00:44,750 --> 00:00:45,625 to death in his apartment. 19 00:00:45,708 --> 00:00:47,750 - Another decanter with a knife stuck in it. 20 00:00:47,875 --> 00:00:50,625 ♪ ♪ 21 00:00:50,750 --> 00:00:51,625 [dramatic music] 22 00:00:51,750 --> 00:00:53,833 [sirens wailing] 23 00:00:54,000 --> 00:01:01,042 ♪ ♪ 24 00:01:01,208 --> 00:01:02,625 [radio chatter] 25 00:01:02,750 --> 00:01:05,042 ♪ ♪ 26 00:01:05,208 --> 00:01:06,333 [sirens wailing] 27 00:01:06,500 --> 00:01:11,708 ♪ ♪ 28 00:01:11,875 --> 00:01:15,042 [tense music] 29 00:01:15,208 --> 00:01:18,042 narrator: Cincinnati, Ohio, 30 00:01:18,167 --> 00:01:20,333 3:30 p.m., 31 00:01:20,417 --> 00:01:23,458 the quiet East Walnut Hills neighborhood. 32 00:01:23,583 --> 00:01:26,625 Fire and rescue units respond to a call 33 00:01:26,708 --> 00:01:29,875 for an apartment fire. 34 00:01:30,042 --> 00:01:31,792 While extinguishing the flames, 35 00:01:31,917 --> 00:01:35,083 they make a gruesome discovery on the top floor, 36 00:01:35,208 --> 00:01:38,917 two bodies badly burned. 37 00:01:39,042 --> 00:01:46,125 ♪ ♪ 38 00:01:55,875 --> 00:01:58,750 narrator: The fireman entered one top floor apartment 39 00:01:58,875 --> 00:02:03,500 and discovered the bedroom completely engulfed in flame. 40 00:02:13,083 --> 00:02:15,167 ♪ ♪ 41 00:02:26,375 --> 00:02:27,667 narrator: Firefighters conducted a search 42 00:02:27,750 --> 00:02:30,417 of all other apartments on the top floor 43 00:02:30,542 --> 00:02:32,708 and made a startling discovery. 44 00:02:45,583 --> 00:02:47,208 - This is frickin' weird, man. 45 00:02:50,250 --> 00:02:53,333 ♪ ♪ 46 00:02:53,417 --> 00:02:55,625 - The biggest challenge of having no witnesses is, 47 00:02:55,708 --> 00:02:57,792 there's no one to point you in the right direction. 48 00:02:57,875 --> 00:03:00,792 You spend a lot of time just trying to make sense of things 49 00:03:00,875 --> 00:03:03,625 that somebody else could have helped you make sense of. 50 00:03:03,750 --> 00:03:06,167 There's nothing more valuable to a trial than for a juror 51 00:03:06,250 --> 00:03:08,375 to sit there and listen to another human being 52 00:03:08,500 --> 00:03:10,000 talk about what they saw. 53 00:03:10,167 --> 00:03:11,833 ♪ ♪ 54 00:03:11,917 --> 00:03:14,333 narrator: Detectives examine the body of the first victim, 55 00:03:14,458 --> 00:03:16,667 whose apartment was on fire. 56 00:03:16,750 --> 00:03:19,333 [indistinct chatter] 57 00:03:19,500 --> 00:03:22,542 49-year-old Vernon Allmond 58 00:03:22,667 --> 00:03:24,667 was a beloved Cincinnati hairdresser, 59 00:03:24,792 --> 00:03:29,833 whose clients knew him as the weave doctor. 60 00:03:29,917 --> 00:03:33,292 - Did you see this? 61 00:03:33,375 --> 00:03:35,292 - Stab wounds. 62 00:03:35,375 --> 00:03:38,792 - Stab wounds? 63 00:03:38,917 --> 00:03:40,667 [indistinct chatter] 64 00:03:40,792 --> 00:03:42,500 - There's at least 30 stab wounds. 65 00:03:42,625 --> 00:03:43,500 - OK. 66 00:03:43,667 --> 00:03:45,000 - Yeah... 67 00:03:45,167 --> 00:03:52,250 ♪ ♪ 68 00:04:03,542 --> 00:04:05,083 - Wow. 69 00:04:05,208 --> 00:04:06,667 This is weird. 70 00:04:06,833 --> 00:04:08,625 [indistinct chatter] 71 00:04:08,708 --> 00:04:11,833 - Multiple stab wounds on Vernon 72 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:15,750 usually is a sign of passion. 73 00:04:15,875 --> 00:04:19,083 The doctor's stabbed also but not in the same way 74 00:04:19,208 --> 00:04:23,625 that Vernon was stabbed. 75 00:04:23,708 --> 00:04:26,708 My guess is that the doctor was probably some sort of witness. 76 00:04:26,833 --> 00:04:31,833 He saw something or knew something. 77 00:04:31,958 --> 00:04:38,792 ♪ ♪ 78 00:04:50,708 --> 00:04:51,667 - Tell me what you know about Martin. 79 00:04:51,792 --> 00:04:55,167 Is he Black or white or Hispanic? 80 00:04:55,250 --> 00:04:57,375 - How old do you think Martin is? 81 00:04:57,500 --> 00:04:59,042 Closest guess. 82 00:04:59,167 --> 00:05:01,458 - Does he have a car? 83 00:05:01,583 --> 00:05:04,333 - OK. Does Vernon have a car? 84 00:05:06,083 --> 00:05:07,083 - Is it here? 85 00:05:09,375 --> 00:05:10,833 narrator: Greg says that his brother's 86 00:05:10,958 --> 00:05:14,167 gray Chevy Malibu rental car appears to be missing. 87 00:05:14,292 --> 00:05:15,708 ♪ ♪ 88 00:05:15,833 --> 00:05:17,125 - If we can find out who Martin is, 89 00:05:17,250 --> 00:05:18,292 we need to pick him up, like, now. 90 00:05:18,417 --> 00:05:26,167 ♪ ♪ 91 00:05:26,250 --> 00:05:27,833 - This is pure passion. 92 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:29,000 - Passion. 93 00:05:29,125 --> 00:05:30,750 - The stabbing is multiple times. 94 00:05:30,875 --> 00:05:31,833 It's personal. 95 00:05:31,958 --> 00:05:33,292 - Like, how did the doctor get involved? 96 00:05:33,417 --> 00:05:34,542 - The poor doctor-- 97 00:05:34,708 --> 00:05:35,833 - Poor doctor probably saw him coming out. 98 00:05:35,917 --> 00:05:37,125 - Heard it. Saw it. 99 00:05:37,208 --> 00:05:39,667 - So then he kills the doctor, then he sets him on fire. 100 00:05:39,792 --> 00:05:40,792 - Right. 101 00:05:40,917 --> 00:05:48,458 ♪ ♪ 102 00:05:48,542 --> 00:05:51,667 Come to mama. 103 00:05:51,792 --> 00:05:54,625 ♪ ♪ 104 00:05:54,750 --> 00:05:57,250 narrator: Luke learns that Martin is in jail now 105 00:05:57,375 --> 00:05:59,792 and has been for the past two months. 106 00:05:59,917 --> 00:06:01,625 ♪ ♪ 107 00:06:01,708 --> 00:06:03,833 - It's going to be somebody else. 108 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:05,500 narrator: Detectives shift focus 109 00:06:05,583 --> 00:06:08,167 back to the only remaining lead, 110 00:06:08,250 --> 00:06:10,625 Vernon's stolen rental car. 111 00:06:10,750 --> 00:06:13,333 - Find that car, find out who's in that car. 112 00:06:13,458 --> 00:06:16,500 ♪ ♪ 113 00:06:16,625 --> 00:06:18,750 narrator: Detective Luke asks for district patrol 114 00:06:18,875 --> 00:06:21,833 to be on the lookout for the stolen Chevy Malibu. 115 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:26,292 - So we need the car and the occupants stopped and held. 116 00:06:26,375 --> 00:06:28,083 Treat the car as a crime scene. 117 00:06:28,208 --> 00:06:30,333 OK. Thank you so much. 118 00:06:30,417 --> 00:06:33,958 Bye. 119 00:06:34,083 --> 00:06:40,958 ♪ ♪ 120 00:06:44,833 --> 00:06:46,583 narrator: They pull over the car 121 00:06:46,708 --> 00:06:49,125 and transfer its driver to homicide. 122 00:06:49,250 --> 00:06:56,042 ♪ ♪ 123 00:06:58,542 --> 00:07:01,125 The driver is David Wallace, 124 00:07:01,208 --> 00:07:05,583 a convicted felon who's done time for aggravated robbery. 125 00:07:14,833 --> 00:07:17,833 - Well, that car wasn't yours. 126 00:07:19,417 --> 00:07:23,458 ♪ ♪ 127 00:07:26,875 --> 00:07:30,750 - Yeah, it's pretty serious. 128 00:07:30,875 --> 00:07:32,250 ♪ ♪ 129 00:07:42,458 --> 00:07:45,167 - You and me both. 130 00:07:47,042 --> 00:07:49,542 And I'm sorry for what gone on, man. 131 00:07:59,583 --> 00:08:02,917 ♪ ♪ 132 00:08:06,167 --> 00:08:10,667 ♪ ♪ 133 00:08:10,792 --> 00:08:12,208 - Why don't you let me help you out with this 134 00:08:12,375 --> 00:08:13,458 and work through this? 135 00:08:13,583 --> 00:08:20,583 ♪ ♪ 136 00:08:25,125 --> 00:08:28,167 narrator: David claims he exchanged crack 137 00:08:28,250 --> 00:08:30,542 for the use of a car. 138 00:08:40,083 --> 00:08:41,542 - But [bleep] gone. 139 00:08:41,708 --> 00:08:43,667 narrator: He claims the man left with the crack 140 00:08:43,792 --> 00:08:45,833 and never returned for the car. 141 00:08:45,917 --> 00:08:47,208 - He gone. 142 00:08:51,792 --> 00:08:53,000 - Describe him to me. 143 00:08:53,125 --> 00:08:56,000 - Dark-skinned, not as tall as me. 144 00:08:56,167 --> 00:09:00,292 You know what I'm saying? Like 5'10", maybe 6 foot. 145 00:09:00,375 --> 00:09:01,958 You know what I mean? 146 00:09:02,083 --> 00:09:04,542 - How old do you think he would have been about? 147 00:09:04,667 --> 00:09:07,000 - Like, early 40s. 148 00:09:07,125 --> 00:09:08,375 - Any facial hair? 149 00:09:08,542 --> 00:09:09,792 - No. 150 00:09:09,875 --> 00:09:13,167 No, he was, like, butt-naked face. 151 00:09:13,292 --> 00:09:14,208 - You ever seen him before? 152 00:09:14,375 --> 00:09:16,000 - Never in my life. 153 00:09:16,125 --> 00:09:22,917 ♪ ♪ 154 00:09:26,625 --> 00:09:29,833 - It is commonplace that people in this business 155 00:09:29,958 --> 00:09:34,208 will sell, rent, and do business with their cars. 156 00:09:34,333 --> 00:09:36,000 - This guy's believable. 157 00:09:36,083 --> 00:09:37,458 I believe him. 158 00:09:37,542 --> 00:09:39,167 It's very frustrating. 159 00:09:39,250 --> 00:09:44,000 You know, you want that guy to be your guy. 160 00:09:44,125 --> 00:09:48,000 narrator: 12 hours in the team is back at square one. 161 00:09:48,125 --> 00:09:52,667 ♪ ♪ 162 00:09:52,833 --> 00:09:55,667 - The big easy win isn't happening on this case so far. 163 00:09:55,750 --> 00:09:58,208 This is not an obvious gang-related killing. 164 00:09:58,333 --> 00:10:00,167 This is somebody whose motives are a little different. 165 00:10:00,292 --> 00:10:01,125 ♪ ♪ 166 00:10:05,208 --> 00:10:10,917 ♪ ♪ 167 00:10:12,542 --> 00:10:14,250 [telephone rings] - Thompson. 168 00:10:14,375 --> 00:10:17,542 narrator: Thompson finally gets a break in his case. 169 00:10:17,708 --> 00:10:20,042 A friend of David Wallace, the man 170 00:10:20,167 --> 00:10:22,125 pulled over driving Vernon's car, 171 00:10:22,208 --> 00:10:26,000 spotted the man who allegedly traded the car for crack. 172 00:10:26,125 --> 00:10:29,167 The man is Anthony Wayne Scott. 173 00:10:29,292 --> 00:10:31,000 - The police were able to snag this guy up, 174 00:10:31,167 --> 00:10:34,542 so we're going to go in and talk to him. 175 00:10:34,708 --> 00:10:36,667 - A suspect has their version of events. 176 00:10:36,792 --> 00:10:38,333 But is it the truth? 177 00:10:38,417 --> 00:10:40,708 With no one else to tell the police what happened, 178 00:10:40,833 --> 00:10:44,083 police have to compare what the suspect says 179 00:10:44,208 --> 00:10:46,000 to what the evidence tells them. 180 00:10:46,125 --> 00:10:48,458 ♪ ♪ 181 00:10:48,583 --> 00:10:51,708 - I'm just trying to debate on whether or not to talk to you, 182 00:10:51,875 --> 00:10:53,583 because I know-- no disrespect to you, 183 00:10:53,708 --> 00:10:56,292 but I don't trust cops. 184 00:10:56,375 --> 00:10:58,833 - I'm just trying to figure out how this car got there 185 00:10:58,917 --> 00:11:00,250 and how you were in it. 186 00:11:00,375 --> 00:11:04,042 And man, can't you just help me out a little bit here? 187 00:11:04,208 --> 00:11:08,167 - Yeah, I was picked up by somebody in the car 188 00:11:08,292 --> 00:11:11,625 over on Main Street. 189 00:11:11,708 --> 00:11:13,625 - Did you know that person? 190 00:11:13,750 --> 00:11:15,417 - No. 191 00:11:15,542 --> 00:11:18,125 narrator: Scott claims that a stranger pulled up next to him 192 00:11:18,208 --> 00:11:22,125 in the car asking if he knew where to buy drugs. 193 00:11:22,208 --> 00:11:24,667 Scott says this stranger then gave him his car 194 00:11:24,792 --> 00:11:27,750 to trade for drugs at a nearby crack house. 195 00:11:27,875 --> 00:11:30,667 - He wanted to just rent it for a little something. 196 00:11:30,792 --> 00:11:34,167 - Well, the guy that picks you up on Main Street. 197 00:11:34,250 --> 00:11:36,375 - I never made it back to him, because... 198 00:11:36,500 --> 00:11:38,667 narrator: Scott says that after trading the man's car 199 00:11:38,833 --> 00:11:41,458 for drugs he left the crack house to find him 200 00:11:41,583 --> 00:11:42,625 and give him the crack. 201 00:11:42,750 --> 00:11:46,333 But the man had vanished. 202 00:11:46,417 --> 00:11:50,708 ♪ ♪ 203 00:11:50,833 --> 00:11:52,750 Thompson shows Scott a photograph 204 00:11:52,875 --> 00:11:57,167 of the victim, Vernon Allmon. 205 00:11:57,292 --> 00:11:58,333 - He was murdered? 206 00:11:58,417 --> 00:11:59,292 - Yeah. 207 00:11:59,417 --> 00:12:01,667 Do you know him? 208 00:12:01,792 --> 00:12:08,708 ♪ ♪ 209 00:12:08,875 --> 00:12:12,667 What's his name? 210 00:12:12,750 --> 00:12:14,708 - I can't remember his name. 211 00:12:14,833 --> 00:12:18,208 ♪ ♪ 212 00:12:18,333 --> 00:12:19,042 - His name is Vernon. 213 00:12:19,167 --> 00:12:20,417 - Vernon. 214 00:12:20,542 --> 00:12:21,917 That's who had the car. 215 00:12:22,042 --> 00:12:25,458 That's who gave me the car to go up there. 216 00:12:25,583 --> 00:12:26,750 - Well, hold on. 217 00:12:26,875 --> 00:12:28,000 You're saying that the person who picked you up 218 00:12:28,083 --> 00:12:30,875 on Main Street is Vernon? 219 00:12:31,042 --> 00:12:34,875 Then how--tell me how he would get up to his apartment 220 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:38,500 and be dead there. 221 00:12:38,583 --> 00:12:45,458 ♪ ♪ 222 00:12:50,583 --> 00:12:53,792 That wasn't a trick question. 223 00:12:53,875 --> 00:12:57,250 ♪ ♪ 224 00:12:57,375 --> 00:12:59,042 I'll be honest, I'm having a hard time 225 00:12:59,167 --> 00:13:01,083 getting over this Main Street rendezvous 226 00:13:01,208 --> 00:13:02,417 where you just stumbled across Vernon. 227 00:13:02,542 --> 00:13:03,958 - I understand that. - I don't think it makes sens. 228 00:13:04,042 --> 00:13:05,792 - I understand that. - All the vagueness. 229 00:13:05,917 --> 00:13:07,500 And I show you his picture, and you're crying. 230 00:13:07,625 --> 00:13:09,375 You look at it. 231 00:13:09,542 --> 00:13:10,375 - I didn't cry. 232 00:13:10,542 --> 00:13:11,750 - The hell you didn't. 233 00:13:11,875 --> 00:13:13,292 Have you ever been in Vernon's apartment? 234 00:13:13,417 --> 00:13:16,500 - I'm not giving no information about that. 235 00:13:16,625 --> 00:13:20,125 ♪ ♪ 236 00:13:20,208 --> 00:13:22,625 - He first of all admits to being in the car. 237 00:13:22,750 --> 00:13:25,667 And then he admits to knowing the victim. 238 00:13:25,792 --> 00:13:28,417 Then he admits to being with the victim. 239 00:13:28,542 --> 00:13:30,917 narrator: Detectives do not have enough evidence to charge 240 00:13:31,042 --> 00:13:33,167 Scott with a double murder. 241 00:13:33,250 --> 00:13:37,958 They charge him with receiving stolen property. 242 00:13:38,083 --> 00:13:41,167 In jail, Scott later admitted involvement in the murders 243 00:13:41,292 --> 00:13:43,458 to two separate fellow inmates. 244 00:13:43,542 --> 00:13:46,667 He was subsequently charged with two counts of murder. 245 00:13:46,833 --> 00:13:53,875 ♪ ♪ 246 00:13:57,042 --> 00:13:59,958 Memphis, 2:00 p.m. 247 00:14:00,083 --> 00:14:03,417 A 911 call comes in from an apartment comple. 248 00:14:20,042 --> 00:14:21,417 [sirens wailing] 249 00:14:21,542 --> 00:14:23,458 narrator: When paramedics arrive, 250 00:14:23,542 --> 00:14:27,458 they find a man on the living room floor dead. 251 00:14:27,542 --> 00:14:32,083 ♪ ♪ 252 00:14:32,208 --> 00:14:33,208 - The family members had not heard from him 253 00:14:33,375 --> 00:14:35,042 from what I understand, which is why 254 00:14:35,167 --> 00:14:36,667 they are over here trying to get 255 00:14:36,750 --> 00:14:39,167 them to check the apartment. 256 00:14:39,292 --> 00:14:40,500 ♪ ♪ 257 00:14:40,667 --> 00:14:42,000 Is he in his underwear? 258 00:14:42,125 --> 00:14:44,500 narrator: The victim's body is in an advanced 259 00:14:44,667 --> 00:14:47,125 state of decomposition. 260 00:14:47,250 --> 00:14:49,500 - It definitely looks like he's been killed. 261 00:14:49,625 --> 00:14:53,375 - Ronald Paige. 262 00:14:53,500 --> 00:14:55,458 narrator: 50-year-old Ronald Paige 263 00:14:55,542 --> 00:14:57,833 was a pastor of the Cornerstone Church 264 00:14:57,917 --> 00:15:00,042 in nearby Earle, Arkansas. 265 00:15:00,167 --> 00:15:03,375 He lived by himself in Memphis. 266 00:15:03,542 --> 00:15:06,000 - It looks like we've got a whiskey decanter 267 00:15:06,125 --> 00:15:10,167 or whatever right there next to his elbow. 268 00:15:10,250 --> 00:15:12,542 - It might be the murder weapon. 269 00:15:12,667 --> 00:15:16,792 ♪ ♪ 270 00:15:16,917 --> 00:15:19,292 Did you see this, Deputy? 271 00:15:19,417 --> 00:15:21,792 Right there, you got another decanter 272 00:15:21,875 --> 00:15:23,208 with a knife stuck in it. 273 00:15:23,333 --> 00:15:26,917 ♪ ♪ 274 00:15:27,042 --> 00:15:28,375 - You know, I think there's blood on that knife. 275 00:15:28,542 --> 00:15:29,667 - It looked like it. 276 00:15:29,750 --> 00:15:33,667 ♪ ♪ 277 00:15:33,750 --> 00:15:37,542 Man. 278 00:15:37,708 --> 00:15:39,792 Something took place here. 279 00:15:39,875 --> 00:15:41,250 You can see the cast off or the blood 280 00:15:41,375 --> 00:15:42,833 spatter going up the wall. 281 00:15:42,917 --> 00:15:47,458 ♪ ♪ 282 00:15:47,583 --> 00:15:52,500 Did you ever notice visitors or anything like that? 283 00:15:59,583 --> 00:16:01,125 narrator: The witness says the victim 284 00:16:01,250 --> 00:16:05,500 would often invite homeless people to stay with him. 285 00:16:10,583 --> 00:16:12,667 - Maybe this time he picked up the wrong guy. 286 00:16:12,792 --> 00:16:13,667 ♪ ♪ 287 00:16:17,917 --> 00:16:19,000 - When a person is found in their home, 288 00:16:19,125 --> 00:16:19,875 the first thing you want to know is, 289 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:21,167 was there a forced entry? 290 00:16:21,292 --> 00:16:22,917 And if there is no forced entry 291 00:16:23,042 --> 00:16:24,833 the things that tell you is that whoever 292 00:16:24,917 --> 00:16:27,667 is responsible for this was either allowed to enter 293 00:16:27,833 --> 00:16:31,833 or they had a key and had the ability to enter on their own. 294 00:16:31,958 --> 00:16:39,042 ♪ ♪ 295 00:16:41,750 --> 00:16:44,167 - We're hoping that we get some physical evidence that will 296 00:16:44,292 --> 00:16:46,542 give us a break in the case. 297 00:16:46,667 --> 00:16:48,833 narrator: First, they examine the possible murder 298 00:16:48,917 --> 00:16:51,000 weapons for fingerprints. 299 00:16:51,125 --> 00:16:53,000 - One print is all you going to need. 300 00:16:53,083 --> 00:17:00,167 ♪ ♪ 301 00:17:07,542 --> 00:17:10,125 - The ME said that the victim had 100-plus 302 00:17:10,208 --> 00:17:11,917 stab wounds to his body. 303 00:17:12,042 --> 00:17:17,625 We think that's the knife that was used. 304 00:17:17,750 --> 00:17:19,542 Negative? 305 00:17:19,667 --> 00:17:23,000 - Nothing. 306 00:17:23,125 --> 00:17:24,750 narrator: Justice turns to other items 307 00:17:24,875 --> 00:17:26,833 collected from the apartment. 308 00:17:26,958 --> 00:17:32,542 - There is a DVD movie that was playing in the bedroom 309 00:17:32,708 --> 00:17:34,667 when we got to the scene. 310 00:17:34,792 --> 00:17:38,083 ♪ ♪ 311 00:17:38,208 --> 00:17:40,375 - Yeah, there's something on there. 312 00:17:40,500 --> 00:17:47,375 ♪ ♪ 313 00:17:49,708 --> 00:17:52,125 - This may be it. 314 00:17:52,208 --> 00:17:53,875 narrator: They run the print through AFIS, 315 00:17:54,042 --> 00:17:56,667 the Automated Fingerprint Identification System, 316 00:17:56,750 --> 00:17:59,417 hoping to find a match. 317 00:17:59,542 --> 00:18:00,500 - Please. 318 00:18:00,625 --> 00:18:02,333 I'm going to keep my fingers crossed. 319 00:18:02,458 --> 00:18:04,167 ♪ ♪ 320 00:18:04,250 --> 00:18:06,500 - Just got a hit. 321 00:18:06,583 --> 00:18:08,292 - His print was on the DVD that was 322 00:18:08,417 --> 00:18:09,875 in the machine still spinning. 323 00:18:10,042 --> 00:18:11,833 So he had to have been there recently. 324 00:18:11,917 --> 00:18:13,333 ♪ ♪ 325 00:18:13,417 --> 00:18:15,208 He's obviously a person of interest. 326 00:18:15,375 --> 00:18:16,917 If he was at the crime scene, he's definitely somebody 327 00:18:17,042 --> 00:18:18,417 we'll need to talk to. 328 00:18:18,542 --> 00:18:24,292 - He was a suspect in a break-in of a car on the 19th. 329 00:18:24,375 --> 00:18:27,875 narrator: The vehicle was stolen just a few days befor. 330 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:29,333 - It's a Black Chevy Blazer. 331 00:18:29,458 --> 00:18:31,500 It's still got the temporary tags on it. 332 00:18:31,583 --> 00:18:34,333 - I bet you if we find that truck, Andre will be in it. 333 00:18:34,458 --> 00:18:40,208 ♪ ♪ 334 00:18:40,333 --> 00:18:41,792 - Lieutenant Miller. 335 00:18:41,875 --> 00:18:45,208 ♪ ♪ 336 00:18:45,375 --> 00:18:46,500 narrator: The Criminal Apprehension Tem 337 00:18:46,667 --> 00:18:49,958 has found the stolen Blazer and Andre Harris 338 00:18:50,042 --> 00:18:52,125 at a neighborhood gas station. 339 00:18:52,250 --> 00:18:54,583 They bring Andre Harris back to headquarters 340 00:18:54,708 --> 00:18:55,833 for questioning. 341 00:18:55,958 --> 00:18:57,500 - He saw that Homicide sign. 342 00:18:57,625 --> 00:19:00,833 He got that sick look on his face right now. 343 00:19:00,917 --> 00:19:03,750 ♪ ♪ 344 00:19:03,875 --> 00:19:05,833 He's like, "What am I being charged with?" 345 00:19:05,917 --> 00:19:07,417 ♪ ♪ 346 00:19:07,542 --> 00:19:09,667 - He was caught in a stolen car. 347 00:19:09,750 --> 00:19:11,333 We're going to start with that first. 348 00:19:11,458 --> 00:19:14,667 And then we're going to ease our way into the homicide. 349 00:19:14,750 --> 00:19:16,292 You ready, Ron? 350 00:19:16,417 --> 00:19:19,917 narrator: Quinn and Collins will interview the suspect. 351 00:19:20,042 --> 00:19:21,292 - What's going on, Andre? 352 00:19:21,375 --> 00:19:24,708 - Why do you think you're here? 353 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:32,125 ♪ ♪ 354 00:19:32,208 --> 00:19:33,875 - Where did you get the Blazer from? 355 00:19:37,750 --> 00:19:40,750 narrator: Andre claims that he bought the Blazer from a womn 356 00:19:40,875 --> 00:19:43,708 and her boyfriend. 357 00:19:43,833 --> 00:19:47,458 - Your name's not on that bill of sale, title, anything. 358 00:19:47,542 --> 00:19:49,458 ♪ ♪ 359 00:19:49,583 --> 00:19:52,167 - As of right now, the way it look, you stole the ca. 360 00:19:52,292 --> 00:19:57,667 ♪ ♪ 361 00:19:57,833 --> 00:19:59,500 - How'd you cut your arm? 362 00:19:59,625 --> 00:20:01,625 ♪ ♪ 363 00:20:01,708 --> 00:20:02,667 - Yeah. 364 00:20:02,750 --> 00:20:07,333 ♪ ♪ 365 00:20:07,458 --> 00:20:10,708 - Washing the car? 366 00:20:10,833 --> 00:20:16,375 ♪ ♪ 367 00:20:16,500 --> 00:20:19,167 - Do you know what office you're in? 368 00:20:19,292 --> 00:20:20,167 - Yeah. 369 00:20:20,292 --> 00:20:21,167 - What? 370 00:20:21,250 --> 00:20:22,875 - This is a police office. 371 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:27,333 ♪ ♪ 372 00:20:27,500 --> 00:20:31,208 - When you came in those doors from the hallway, 373 00:20:31,375 --> 00:20:32,667 it said Homicide. 374 00:20:32,833 --> 00:20:34,500 - Uh-huh. 375 00:20:34,625 --> 00:20:38,000 - We're homicide investigators. 376 00:20:38,083 --> 00:20:40,167 - So you think I killed somebody or something? 377 00:20:40,250 --> 00:20:45,583 ♪ ♪ 378 00:20:45,708 --> 00:20:50,792 - Well, Andre, you're not telling us the truth again. 379 00:20:50,917 --> 00:20:53,042 See, we--listen to me-- we know the answers 380 00:20:53,167 --> 00:20:56,958 to the questions that we're asking you. 381 00:20:57,042 --> 00:21:01,333 - Because we're trying to give you an opportunity 382 00:21:01,458 --> 00:21:05,167 to clear the air and tell the truth. 383 00:21:05,292 --> 00:21:08,500 ♪ ♪ 384 00:21:08,625 --> 00:21:12,833 You know this man right here? 385 00:21:12,958 --> 00:21:19,833 ♪ ♪ 386 00:21:21,833 --> 00:21:24,000 You studying that picture awful hard. 387 00:21:24,125 --> 00:21:30,042 ♪ ♪ 388 00:21:30,167 --> 00:21:33,875 That man right there is dead. 389 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:41,083 ♪ ♪ 390 00:21:41,208 --> 00:21:43,792 - Well, what if we were to tell you that we have evidence 391 00:21:43,875 --> 00:21:45,958 that proves otherwise? 392 00:21:46,042 --> 00:21:48,750 And--listen to me. 393 00:21:48,875 --> 00:21:51,833 We have evidence that can put you in his apartment. 394 00:21:51,917 --> 00:21:55,417 ♪ ♪ 395 00:21:55,542 --> 00:21:57,125 You're not sitting in the Homicide office 396 00:21:57,250 --> 00:21:59,208 because you stole a [bleep] Blazer. 397 00:21:59,333 --> 00:22:01,833 ♪ ♪ 398 00:22:01,958 --> 00:22:03,167 - There's no question about that. 399 00:22:03,292 --> 00:22:04,500 There's no question about it. 400 00:22:04,625 --> 00:22:07,792 We can prove that you was inside the house. 401 00:22:07,875 --> 00:22:09,958 ♪ ♪ 402 00:22:10,083 --> 00:22:15,042 But what went on in the house, only you know that. 403 00:22:15,167 --> 00:22:21,375 ♪ ♪ 404 00:22:21,500 --> 00:22:23,125 You sitting there saying, "I wasn't in the house. 405 00:22:23,250 --> 00:22:24,500 I don't know nothing about this." 406 00:22:24,625 --> 00:22:26,000 We take this stuff to court. 407 00:22:26,167 --> 00:22:29,417 We put out proof on showing that you was in the house, 408 00:22:29,542 --> 00:22:31,542 the jury, the judge, and everybody else 409 00:22:31,708 --> 00:22:32,917 in that courtroom are gonna think 410 00:22:33,042 --> 00:22:34,667 you're a cold-blooded killer and a cold-hearted liar. 411 00:22:34,792 --> 00:22:38,375 They're going to picture you as that. 412 00:22:38,500 --> 00:22:40,458 Something went on in the house to make it happen. 413 00:22:40,542 --> 00:22:41,833 We need to know what. 414 00:22:41,917 --> 00:22:43,875 ♪ ♪ 415 00:22:47,917 --> 00:22:53,458 ♪ ♪ 416 00:22:57,875 --> 00:22:58,958 Damn. 417 00:22:59,083 --> 00:23:05,917 ♪ ♪ 418 00:23:13,625 --> 00:23:15,125 narrator: Andre says he met the pastor 419 00:23:15,208 --> 00:23:16,708 at a nearby gas station 420 00:23:16,875 --> 00:23:21,500 when he offered him a place to stay. 421 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:30,875 ♪ ♪ 422 00:24:33,167 --> 00:24:37,000 [sobbing] 423 00:24:37,167 --> 00:24:44,167 ♪ ♪ 424 00:24:44,708 --> 00:24:46,583 - We'll give you a few minutes. 425 00:24:46,708 --> 00:24:49,708 And we'll be back in here with you. 426 00:24:49,833 --> 00:24:54,250 ♪ ♪ 427 00:24:54,375 --> 00:24:56,167 - He just broke. He just broke. 428 00:24:56,333 --> 00:24:58,667 ♪ ♪ 429 00:24:58,750 --> 00:25:01,542 - We'll never really know what the truth is. 430 00:25:01,708 --> 00:25:03,583 There's always two sides to every story. 431 00:25:03,708 --> 00:25:06,333 And Mr. Paige will never be able to tell his side. 432 00:25:06,417 --> 00:25:13,250 ♪ ♪ 433 00:25:16,250 --> 00:25:19,167 [dramatic music] 434 00:25:19,292 --> 00:25:21,000 ♪ ♪ 435 00:25:21,167 --> 00:25:23,167 - Cell phones are extremely valuable 436 00:25:23,250 --> 00:25:24,667 in homicide investigations, 437 00:25:24,792 --> 00:25:27,167 because you literally have a handheld tracking system. 438 00:25:27,292 --> 00:25:29,083 It's almost impossible for you to go somewhere 439 00:25:29,208 --> 00:25:30,667 using a cell phone and it does not hit 440 00:25:30,833 --> 00:25:32,792 off some cell tower somewhere. 441 00:25:32,917 --> 00:25:34,833 So we can literally figure out exactly 442 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:36,333 everywhere that you've been. 443 00:25:36,458 --> 00:25:37,917 We can know exactly who you talk to, 444 00:25:38,042 --> 00:25:39,667 when you talk to them, when you text someone, 445 00:25:39,750 --> 00:25:40,667 and who texts you. 446 00:25:40,792 --> 00:25:42,250 So they're extremely valuable. 447 00:25:58,167 --> 00:25:59,917 [sirens wailing] 448 00:26:00,042 --> 00:26:03,750 narrator: Patrol and EMS race to the scene 449 00:26:03,875 --> 00:26:05,542 and find a woman in the driver's seat 450 00:26:05,667 --> 00:26:09,833 of a red Camaro shot dead. 451 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,500 ♪ ♪ 452 00:26:12,583 --> 00:26:15,833 [tense music] 453 00:26:15,917 --> 00:26:17,167 ♪ ♪ 454 00:26:17,292 --> 00:26:18,500 - Rich. - Hey. 455 00:26:18,625 --> 00:26:20,333 - He was just sitting in there? 456 00:26:20,458 --> 00:26:21,875 - Just sitting in there, she. 457 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:23,000 - Oh, she? 458 00:26:23,083 --> 00:26:25,250 - Yeah. 459 00:26:25,375 --> 00:26:28,042 - You got her name? - Yeah. 460 00:26:28,208 --> 00:26:31,125 - Juanita Ibarra, OK. 461 00:26:31,208 --> 00:26:32,792 ♪ ♪ 462 00:26:32,875 --> 00:26:35,667 narrator: 32-year-old Juanita Ibarra was born and raised 463 00:26:35,792 --> 00:26:38,875 in Tulsa and worked as a translator 464 00:26:39,042 --> 00:26:42,958 at the University of Oklahoma Pediatric Clinic. 465 00:26:43,083 --> 00:26:45,208 She leaves behind four children, 466 00:26:45,375 --> 00:26:49,458 two boys and two girls. 467 00:26:49,542 --> 00:26:52,667 - Looks like somebody came up and walked up on the car. 468 00:26:52,833 --> 00:26:56,250 narrator: Juanita was shot in her left ear. 469 00:26:56,375 --> 00:26:58,958 - There's two live rounds that are sitting on the ground. 470 00:26:59,042 --> 00:27:01,292 Whoever did it came up close and personal and did it. 471 00:27:05,542 --> 00:27:07,917 - Thank you. 472 00:27:08,042 --> 00:27:11,375 - She sent messages at 12:55. 473 00:27:11,500 --> 00:27:13,542 She says, "I don't have anything." 474 00:27:13,708 --> 00:27:17,083 And then she says, "I can go get some." 475 00:27:17,208 --> 00:27:18,333 - OK. 476 00:27:18,417 --> 00:27:21,625 - It seems like there's a little bit of drug talk. 477 00:27:21,750 --> 00:27:25,250 - At 3:00 478 00:27:25,375 --> 00:27:28,958 she's got an outgoing call to a Freddie. 479 00:27:29,083 --> 00:27:31,000 ♪ ♪ 480 00:27:35,125 --> 00:27:37,500 - She misses a call at 3:16, so that puts down 481 00:27:37,625 --> 00:27:39,833 the window to a 14-minute window 482 00:27:39,958 --> 00:27:42,083 when she probably got killed there. 483 00:27:44,792 --> 00:27:47,083 - Oh, great. 484 00:27:47,208 --> 00:27:51,708 ♪ ♪ 485 00:27:51,875 --> 00:27:55,250 - We'll check on that video when they open up. 486 00:27:55,375 --> 00:27:56,750 - We'll notify the family, 487 00:27:56,875 --> 00:27:58,542 trying figure out, what do you know? 488 00:27:58,667 --> 00:28:00,125 And maybe we'll get somewhere. 489 00:28:00,250 --> 00:28:08,000 ♪ ♪ 490 00:28:08,083 --> 00:28:10,083 [knocking] 491 00:28:10,208 --> 00:28:11,833 - Tulsa Police. 492 00:28:11,958 --> 00:28:13,042 You mind if I come in? 493 00:28:13,167 --> 00:28:14,208 I'm Jason White. 494 00:28:14,333 --> 00:28:20,333 ♪ ♪ 495 00:28:20,458 --> 00:28:23,458 narrator: White and Leatherman notify Juanita's family 496 00:28:23,583 --> 00:28:24,667 that she's been murdered. 497 00:28:24,792 --> 00:28:28,333 ♪ ♪ 498 00:28:28,417 --> 00:28:30,083 - She showed up at the parents' house last nigh. 499 00:28:30,208 --> 00:28:32,667 They hadn't heard from her in, like, three weeks, 500 00:28:32,792 --> 00:28:35,000 has drug problems, and was going 501 00:28:35,167 --> 00:28:37,500 to move home and try to, I guess, 502 00:28:37,583 --> 00:28:39,667 maybe try to start over again. 503 00:28:39,750 --> 00:28:41,625 ♪ ♪ 504 00:28:41,708 --> 00:28:44,750 - What we have here, Ronnie, is a whodunit. 505 00:28:44,875 --> 00:28:49,000 But I specialize in whodunits. 506 00:28:49,167 --> 00:28:54,208 ♪ ♪ 507 00:28:54,375 --> 00:28:56,500 narrator: Eight hours in, Corporal Nathan Schilling 508 00:28:56,667 --> 00:28:59,667 searches Juanita's phone for a lead. 509 00:28:59,750 --> 00:29:01,167 - Look at this. - What? 510 00:29:01,250 --> 00:29:02,833 narrator: Schilling finds a photo of the back 511 00:29:02,958 --> 00:29:06,167 of a silver pickup truck... 512 00:29:06,292 --> 00:29:07,792 ♪ ♪ 513 00:29:07,875 --> 00:29:09,792 - At 2:57 this morning. 514 00:29:09,875 --> 00:29:12,167 narrator: Taken just minutes before the murder. 515 00:29:12,333 --> 00:29:14,125 - Holy crap. 516 00:29:14,250 --> 00:29:16,583 She took a picture of the person who killed he. 517 00:29:16,708 --> 00:29:20,792 ♪ ♪ 518 00:29:25,375 --> 00:29:31,167 ♪ ♪ 519 00:29:31,292 --> 00:29:35,000 - 20 minutes before she's found dead in her car, 520 00:29:35,167 --> 00:29:39,000 there's a picture of the back of a truck. 521 00:29:39,083 --> 00:29:41,833 It's a Toyota Tacoma, silver in color. 522 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:43,333 There's a very good chance that that's 523 00:29:43,417 --> 00:29:47,125 a picture of either a suspect or a witness. 524 00:29:47,208 --> 00:29:51,333 ♪ ♪ 525 00:29:51,458 --> 00:29:52,667 - She takes the picture. 526 00:29:52,792 --> 00:29:54,750 I think she knew she was the target. 527 00:29:54,875 --> 00:29:56,000 - Yeah, in trouble, in trouble. - Yes. 528 00:29:56,167 --> 00:29:59,125 - She's trying to do something about it. 529 00:29:59,208 --> 00:30:01,333 narrator: Without a clear license plate number, 530 00:30:01,458 --> 00:30:04,167 detectives examine the photo for other leads. 531 00:30:04,292 --> 00:30:09,458 - Fourth and Memorial is that corner. 532 00:30:09,583 --> 00:30:10,542 - Southwest corner. 533 00:30:10,708 --> 00:30:12,000 - It's possible. 534 00:30:12,125 --> 00:30:13,292 I mean, it's a corner of a building. 535 00:30:13,375 --> 00:30:14,958 ♪ ♪ 536 00:30:15,042 --> 00:30:17,583 narrator: The next morning surveillance 537 00:30:17,708 --> 00:30:20,708 footage from the church near the crime scene comes in. 538 00:30:20,833 --> 00:30:24,833 ♪ ♪ 539 00:30:24,917 --> 00:30:27,792 - OK, here's where they pull up. 540 00:30:27,875 --> 00:30:30,167 - There's the victim's red Camaro. 541 00:30:30,250 --> 00:30:32,583 narrator: The video shows the victim's car 542 00:30:32,708 --> 00:30:34,625 following the silver truck. 543 00:30:34,708 --> 00:30:36,042 ♪ ♪ 544 00:30:36,167 --> 00:30:38,667 - I wonder if they told her to follow. 545 00:30:38,792 --> 00:30:41,542 She pulls in right behind him. 546 00:30:41,708 --> 00:30:46,792 Driver gets out. 547 00:30:46,875 --> 00:30:48,458 Then the passenger gets out. 548 00:30:48,542 --> 00:30:52,542 - There are two people. 549 00:30:52,667 --> 00:30:53,958 ♪ ♪ 550 00:30:54,042 --> 00:30:55,458 - We've got two suspects. 551 00:30:55,583 --> 00:30:57,000 ♪ ♪ 552 00:30:57,125 --> 00:31:01,833 - Bam. They take off. 553 00:31:01,958 --> 00:31:04,208 - Security video is the new eyewitness. 554 00:31:04,375 --> 00:31:06,458 It's almost impossible to go anywhere 555 00:31:06,542 --> 00:31:09,000 publicly and not be captured in video in some way, 556 00:31:09,083 --> 00:31:10,208 shape, form, or fashion. 557 00:31:10,333 --> 00:31:11,750 Back in the old days there were 558 00:31:11,875 --> 00:31:13,458 very few businesses that actually 559 00:31:13,542 --> 00:31:14,792 deployed video cameras. 560 00:31:14,917 --> 00:31:16,167 It's pretty safe to say now that 561 00:31:16,333 --> 00:31:17,625 there are very few that don't. 562 00:31:17,708 --> 00:31:20,333 ♪ ♪ 563 00:31:20,417 --> 00:31:21,625 narrator: Just an hour later... 564 00:31:21,708 --> 00:31:24,667 [phone rings] 565 00:31:24,750 --> 00:31:26,542 - Hello. 566 00:31:26,667 --> 00:31:28,125 Oh, really? 567 00:31:28,250 --> 00:31:29,500 narrator: The team gets a huge break. 568 00:31:29,583 --> 00:31:33,167 ♪ ♪ 569 00:31:33,333 --> 00:31:36,292 - So Ronnie and Jason, they were taking a witness home, 570 00:31:36,375 --> 00:31:39,417 and they found a taco shop that they think 571 00:31:39,542 --> 00:31:41,125 is pretty close to the building we've been 572 00:31:41,208 --> 00:31:42,875 looking for in our picture. 573 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:50,083 ♪ ♪ 574 00:31:51,292 --> 00:31:53,042 - You talk about some of the best quality 575 00:31:53,167 --> 00:31:55,208 video I have ever seen. 576 00:31:55,333 --> 00:31:58,167 Matter of fact, here, look. 577 00:31:58,292 --> 00:31:59,792 Here's both of the guys right here. 578 00:31:59,875 --> 00:32:01,042 ♪ ♪ 579 00:32:01,208 --> 00:32:03,667 He goes up to her car. 580 00:32:03,792 --> 00:32:05,542 - It's good stuff. 581 00:32:05,708 --> 00:32:06,792 - Oh, yeah, we got it all. 582 00:32:06,875 --> 00:32:10,625 ♪ ♪ 583 00:32:10,750 --> 00:32:13,292 We're going to go downtown, let everybody see the video 584 00:32:13,375 --> 00:32:15,333 that Ronnie and I obtained. 585 00:32:15,417 --> 00:32:20,917 ♪ ♪ 586 00:32:21,042 --> 00:32:25,292 - There's the Tacoma. 587 00:32:25,375 --> 00:32:32,250 ♪ ♪ 588 00:32:34,792 --> 00:32:36,625 - There's our boys right there. 589 00:32:36,708 --> 00:32:40,875 ♪ ♪ 590 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:42,542 - There they are coming in. 591 00:32:42,667 --> 00:32:49,542 ♪ ♪ 592 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:54,333 narrator: Minutes later... 593 00:32:54,417 --> 00:32:55,750 ♪ ♪ 594 00:32:55,875 --> 00:32:58,000 - There she is. 595 00:32:58,083 --> 00:33:02,333 narrator: Juanita enters the restauran. 596 00:33:02,458 --> 00:33:04,917 ♪ ♪ 597 00:33:05,042 --> 00:33:07,208 - There she is again. 598 00:33:07,333 --> 00:33:12,917 ♪ ♪ 599 00:33:13,042 --> 00:33:14,542 - So who is she talking to right now? 600 00:33:14,708 --> 00:33:15,625 - OK. 601 00:33:15,750 --> 00:33:20,333 She calls Freddie at 2:32. 602 00:33:20,417 --> 00:33:24,417 ♪ ♪ 603 00:33:24,542 --> 00:33:25,833 All right. There she is again. 604 00:33:25,958 --> 00:33:27,792 She leaves out of there. 605 00:33:30,375 --> 00:33:32,500 - Nothing happened right inside the store. 606 00:33:32,625 --> 00:33:35,667 ♪ ♪ 607 00:33:35,792 --> 00:33:38,083 narrator: As Juanita pulls out of the parking lot... 608 00:33:38,208 --> 00:33:40,042 - Yep, that's her backing out right there. 609 00:33:40,208 --> 00:33:41,458 - Yep, that's the Camaro. 610 00:33:41,583 --> 00:33:43,000 - Yep, it is. 611 00:33:43,125 --> 00:33:44,750 narrator: She crosses paths with the men 612 00:33:44,875 --> 00:33:46,000 from the silver pickup. 613 00:33:46,167 --> 00:33:50,833 ♪ ♪ 614 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:51,958 - There's some sort of a discussion. 615 00:33:52,042 --> 00:33:53,500 They recognize one another. 616 00:33:53,583 --> 00:33:56,292 ♪ ♪ 617 00:33:56,375 --> 00:33:59,000 narrator: And they get into an argument. 618 00:33:59,125 --> 00:34:05,042 ♪ ♪ 619 00:34:05,167 --> 00:34:07,500 - He's mad at... - His buddy 620 00:34:07,625 --> 00:34:09,167 - Telling him to get in the truck. 621 00:34:09,333 --> 00:34:12,333 And right here she's going to take the picture. 622 00:34:12,458 --> 00:34:16,333 ♪ ♪ 623 00:34:16,458 --> 00:34:18,000 - And it went back around to the coffee shop. 624 00:34:18,125 --> 00:34:19,667 - And there's the truck. 625 00:34:19,792 --> 00:34:24,542 He pulls out, and she's right on their rear end. 626 00:34:24,667 --> 00:34:29,208 narrator: Juanita follows the suspects. 627 00:34:29,333 --> 00:34:30,083 - We're so close, man. 628 00:34:30,208 --> 00:34:31,958 I can't stand it. 629 00:34:32,083 --> 00:34:33,417 I'm just--I'm tired. 630 00:34:33,542 --> 00:34:35,958 Man, I got to recharge my batteries a little bit. 631 00:34:36,042 --> 00:34:43,125 ♪ ♪ 632 00:34:44,792 --> 00:34:47,375 [cell phone dings] 633 00:34:47,500 --> 00:34:48,667 - I think that's going to be the truck. 634 00:34:48,750 --> 00:34:50,500 narrator: The team gets a lead. 635 00:34:50,667 --> 00:34:53,000 ♪ ♪ 636 00:34:53,125 --> 00:34:55,583 - I mean, look at the tailgate. 637 00:34:55,708 --> 00:34:57,375 - It's the same tailgate. 638 00:34:57,500 --> 00:34:59,000 ♪ ♪ 639 00:34:59,083 --> 00:35:01,500 narrator: Detective Michael Zenoni spotted a silver pickup 640 00:35:01,625 --> 00:35:03,500 parked near the crime scene that looks 641 00:35:03,583 --> 00:35:05,083 like the suspect's vehicle. 642 00:35:05,208 --> 00:35:07,500 ♪ ♪ 643 00:35:07,625 --> 00:35:09,542 - There's a pretty good chance that this is our truck. 644 00:35:09,667 --> 00:35:16,542 ♪ ♪ 645 00:35:23,083 --> 00:35:25,417 That's a Toyota. 646 00:35:25,542 --> 00:35:27,292 narrator: A man comes out of the house 647 00:35:27,417 --> 00:35:29,792 and gets in the truck. 648 00:35:29,875 --> 00:35:31,333 - Dang it. It's turning around. 649 00:35:31,500 --> 00:35:33,583 Man, I think that guy that we've been looking at 650 00:35:33,708 --> 00:35:35,625 is in this truck too. 651 00:35:35,708 --> 00:35:37,125 ♪ ♪ 652 00:35:37,250 --> 00:35:39,667 That's it. 653 00:35:43,958 --> 00:35:51,083 ♪ ♪ 654 00:35:51,208 --> 00:35:53,833 The guy in the video is definitely in that truck. 655 00:35:53,917 --> 00:36:00,708 ♪ ♪ 656 00:36:04,375 --> 00:36:07,000 - We definitely want to catch [indistinct]. 657 00:36:07,125 --> 00:36:10,583 ♪ ♪ 658 00:36:10,708 --> 00:36:11,958 - That truck right across the way 659 00:36:12,083 --> 00:36:13,208 with the headlights on that's turning 660 00:36:13,333 --> 00:36:15,167 is our suspect vehicle. 661 00:36:15,250 --> 00:36:17,292 It's now southbound on Memorial. 662 00:36:21,667 --> 00:36:24,333 ♪ ♪ 663 00:36:29,125 --> 00:36:31,125 ♪ ♪ 664 00:36:31,250 --> 00:36:35,000 narrator: The driver is taken into custody. 665 00:36:35,083 --> 00:36:41,250 ♪ ♪ 666 00:36:41,375 --> 00:36:45,500 - He's got an ID that says he's Mario Gallegos. 667 00:36:45,625 --> 00:36:48,000 narrator: The team brings in officer Rodolfo Nava 668 00:36:48,125 --> 00:36:50,333 to translate for the suspect. 669 00:36:50,417 --> 00:36:52,042 - I want to ask you a few questions. 670 00:36:52,167 --> 00:36:53,542 I need you to be very truthful with me. 671 00:36:53,667 --> 00:36:54,667 OK? 672 00:36:54,792 --> 00:36:56,583 And it's basically about an incident that occurred 673 00:36:56,708 --> 00:36:59,542 out of the taco stand early Friday morning, 674 00:36:59,708 --> 00:37:00,833 where there was, like, a disagreement 675 00:37:00,917 --> 00:37:02,875 that was going on out there. 676 00:37:03,042 --> 00:37:03,875 It would have been Friday. 677 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:08,375 [both speaking Spanish] 678 00:37:08,500 --> 00:37:09,500 - Yeah, he said he was there. 679 00:37:09,667 --> 00:37:11,292 - OK, great. 680 00:37:11,417 --> 00:37:12,542 Was he there in his truck? 681 00:37:17,375 --> 00:37:20,208 - He said it was his friend's truck. 682 00:37:20,375 --> 00:37:21,500 - Who was his friend? 683 00:37:21,667 --> 00:37:24,542 ♪ ♪ 684 00:37:28,167 --> 00:37:30,042 - What's his full name? 685 00:37:30,208 --> 00:37:32,583 - [speaking Spanish] 686 00:37:32,708 --> 00:37:35,167 - No. 687 00:37:35,292 --> 00:37:36,750 - We have it on video that he gets 688 00:37:36,875 --> 00:37:41,667 into it with somebody in the parking lot of the restaurant. 689 00:37:41,833 --> 00:37:44,000 - [speaking Spanish] 690 00:37:44,125 --> 00:37:46,875 narrator: Mario admits that Pablo was arguing with a woman 691 00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:50,458 outside in the parking lot. 692 00:37:50,542 --> 00:37:52,625 - Do you know the girl? 693 00:37:52,708 --> 00:37:53,625 - No. 694 00:37:53,750 --> 00:37:55,292 - What kind of vehicle was the girl in? 695 00:38:04,125 --> 00:38:05,167 - OK. 696 00:38:05,250 --> 00:38:07,000 So the girl in the red car, 697 00:38:07,125 --> 00:38:09,958 the video shows that she's behind them as they drove off 698 00:38:10,042 --> 00:38:11,333 out of the parking lot. 699 00:38:11,500 --> 00:38:12,958 Does he remember her pulling in behind them? 700 00:38:13,042 --> 00:38:16,167 - No. - No? 701 00:38:16,250 --> 00:38:18,208 Well, she did. 702 00:38:18,333 --> 00:38:21,000 ♪ ♪ 703 00:38:21,167 --> 00:38:24,000 Why did Pablo shoot her? 704 00:38:24,167 --> 00:38:26,583 That woman had four children. 705 00:38:26,708 --> 00:38:30,125 ♪ ♪ 706 00:38:30,208 --> 00:38:31,917 - Did you shoot? 707 00:38:32,042 --> 00:38:33,167 - No. 708 00:38:33,292 --> 00:38:35,458 - No? 709 00:38:35,542 --> 00:38:38,167 - So it's either him or Pablo that did it. 710 00:38:38,292 --> 00:38:40,083 ♪ ♪ 711 00:38:43,500 --> 00:38:45,000 - Well, he needs to remember. 712 00:38:47,083 --> 00:38:53,250 ♪ ♪ 713 00:38:53,375 --> 00:38:55,458 narrator: The team returns to the address where they found 714 00:38:55,583 --> 00:38:57,708 the pickup truck and Mario. 715 00:38:57,833 --> 00:39:01,833 ♪ ♪ 716 00:39:01,958 --> 00:39:03,167 Police make entry... 717 00:39:03,250 --> 00:39:05,500 ♪ ♪ 718 00:39:07,708 --> 00:39:10,292 narrator: And place Pablo under arrest. 719 00:39:10,375 --> 00:39:12,333 ♪ ♪ 720 00:39:12,500 --> 00:39:14,000 - That's him for sure. 721 00:39:14,125 --> 00:39:15,833 ♪ ♪ 722 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:19,625 narrator: Detectives search the house for firearms. 723 00:39:19,708 --> 00:39:22,500 ♪ ♪ 724 00:39:22,583 --> 00:39:24,458 - Diana found a gun. 725 00:39:27,708 --> 00:39:30,375 narrator: The gun is a .25-caliber, 726 00:39:30,542 --> 00:39:32,500 the same caliber as the projectiles 727 00:39:32,667 --> 00:39:34,333 found at the crime scene. 728 00:39:34,458 --> 00:39:35,583 - It's a little .25. 729 00:39:35,708 --> 00:39:37,667 And there's casings at the scene. 730 00:39:37,833 --> 00:39:39,167 This couldn't get any better for Jason. 731 00:39:39,333 --> 00:39:46,167 ♪ ♪ 732 00:39:50,167 --> 00:39:52,833 - OK. So watch. This is you. 733 00:39:52,958 --> 00:39:57,125 ♪ ♪ 734 00:39:57,208 --> 00:39:58,042 You're walking over here. 735 00:39:58,208 --> 00:40:00,833 - [speaking Spanish] 736 00:40:00,917 --> 00:40:01,958 - And here you go. 737 00:40:02,083 --> 00:40:04,333 ♪ ♪ 738 00:40:04,417 --> 00:40:05,958 OK? 739 00:40:06,042 --> 00:40:07,583 ♪ ♪ 740 00:40:07,708 --> 00:40:10,333 - Her car will be coming up right there. 741 00:40:10,417 --> 00:40:13,667 ♪ ♪ 742 00:40:13,750 --> 00:40:15,458 What were you guys talking about? 743 00:40:20,167 --> 00:40:22,667 - She said something about, "I want to drink with you guys, 744 00:40:22,792 --> 00:40:25,250 And that's really about it." 745 00:40:25,375 --> 00:40:28,042 ♪ ♪ 746 00:40:28,208 --> 00:40:29,458 - You remember getting into an argument with her? 747 00:40:32,667 --> 00:40:34,083 - Here we go. - You can see a bit of it. 748 00:40:34,208 --> 00:40:38,250 You see, that's her, screaming and yelling at yo. 749 00:40:38,375 --> 00:40:40,208 ♪ ♪ 750 00:40:43,583 --> 00:40:45,292 - He said, "Yeah, that's when they decided never mind. 751 00:40:45,375 --> 00:40:47,667 Let's just leave." 752 00:40:47,792 --> 00:40:50,208 - So after that, you went straight home? 753 00:40:50,333 --> 00:40:52,042 - Si, yeah. - All right. 754 00:40:52,208 --> 00:40:54,667 That woman was killed. 755 00:40:54,792 --> 00:40:58,208 ♪ ♪ 756 00:41:00,292 --> 00:41:02,125 - Si. 757 00:41:02,208 --> 00:41:04,333 ♪ ♪ 758 00:41:04,417 --> 00:41:05,500 - Does he know anything about it? 759 00:41:05,583 --> 00:41:06,708 - [speaking Spanish] 760 00:41:06,833 --> 00:41:08,583 ♪ ♪ 761 00:41:08,708 --> 00:41:09,917 - No. - No, he doesn't. 762 00:41:10,042 --> 00:41:11,958 - OK. We've talked to his friend, 763 00:41:12,083 --> 00:41:14,833 and he already told us what happened. 764 00:41:14,917 --> 00:41:16,875 He talks about 765 00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:19,625 the car following them and them stopping. 766 00:41:19,708 --> 00:41:22,083 He said that he tells him to stop the truck. 767 00:41:22,208 --> 00:41:23,000 Does he remember that? 768 00:41:23,083 --> 00:41:26,333 - No. 769 00:41:26,458 --> 00:41:28,125 - OK. 770 00:41:28,208 --> 00:41:30,875 Is there any reason why the gun that was used in this murder 771 00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:32,500 is in his bedroom? 772 00:41:41,333 --> 00:41:44,375 - [speaking Spanish] 773 00:41:44,500 --> 00:41:47,000 - He said, "No, what gun? 774 00:41:50,417 --> 00:41:52,458 - OK. - He says he wants his lawyer. 775 00:41:52,583 --> 00:41:55,667 - We have plenty to take him to jail tonight. 776 00:41:55,750 --> 00:41:58,958 And it's time for the court to do what the court does. 777 00:41:59,083 --> 00:42:05,958 ♪ ♪ 778 00:42:16,458 --> 00:42:18,000 - Some of the reasons that people don't come forth 779 00:42:18,167 --> 00:42:20,500 when they see a crime such as a homicide is, 780 00:42:20,625 --> 00:42:22,833 they don't want to get involved. 781 00:42:22,958 --> 00:42:24,750 They don't want to testify. 782 00:42:24,875 --> 00:42:26,750 They don't want the person that's responsible 783 00:42:26,875 --> 00:42:28,042 for the crime to know that they're the person 784 00:42:28,208 --> 00:42:30,917 responsible for bringing them to justice. 785 00:42:31,042 --> 00:42:33,125 And there's an overriding theme in a community 786 00:42:33,208 --> 00:42:35,333 that people don't snitch. 787 00:42:35,458 --> 00:42:42,250 ♪ ♪ 53667

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