Original subtitles

[dramatic music]

♪ ♪

- We were just pointing different guns at each other.

Just like, "Pow!"

- I don't know who killed who. - [sobbing]

♪ ♪

♪ ♪

- Getting a suspect to confess

- Getting a suspect to confess is one of the hardest parts

is one of the hardest parts

of a homicide investigation,

and sometimes, when you get that confession,

it is not what you were expecting to hear.

- Tonight on "The First 48: Critical Minutes"...

- Whoa-ho-ho.

- A man's shooting leads to an unusual interrogation.

You know?

- Then a surprise confession leave detectives stumped.

- This is ridiculous.

- It's the most bass-ackwards thing I've ever seen.

- This one looked like he fought

- This one looked like he fought or put up a struggle.

or put up a struggle.

- And a shooting that is not at all what it seems.

And that's when I heard... [imitates gun cocking]

[dramatic music]

♪ ♪

[siren wailing]

♪ ♪

- An interrogation can go

- An interrogation can go in a lot of different directions.

in a lot of different directions.

You walk in thinking one thing about the suspect,

and it can make a sharp right turn with no warning.

You gotta prepare yourself

for whatever he or she might say.

You have to prepare yourself to be shocked.

♪ ♪

- He's dressed in flip-flops, shorts, and a T-shirt.

- Something you just throw on to go out real quick.

♪ ♪

- Whoa-ho-ho.

To the face.

narrator: The man was shot twice--

one to the torso, one to the chin.

- That's close contact, the one in the chin.

♪ ♪

- Aha. This is what we need.

♪ ♪

No money here.

♪ ♪

♪ ♪

narrator: The victim was 46-year-old Rolando Santos.

- Last night was his birthday.

♪ ♪

narrator: Santos, the co-owner of a stonework company,

lived with his sister's family.

♪ ♪

[indistinct radio chatter]

- Guy probably goes out expecting to have a good time,

and, uh, never makes it. Boom.

♪ ♪

- [speaking Spanish]

narrator: According to his sister,

Santos was celebrating his birthday at home

Santos was celebrating his birthday at home with friends and family.

with friends and family.

narrator: He then disappeared without telling anyone

where he was going.

♪ ♪

♪ ♪

- Sí.

narrator: The sister says Santos

narrator: The sister says Santos owned a Blackberry cell phon.

owned a Blackberry cell phon.

♪ ♪

♪ ♪

- Did you see anything that looked suspicious?

narrator: The next day...

[phone rings]

- This is Herrera.

♪ ♪

narrator: A confidential informant

gives the address of a white Pontiac

that contains stolen items relating to Santos' murder.

♪ ♪

- All right. Bye-bye.

♪ ♪

- Let's go. [clapping]

- It's getting hot.

- Superhot.

♪ ♪

narrator: The team heads out with Patrol

to the address of the white Pontiac.

- I'm arriving here, 5 and 2-9.

♪ ♪

♪ ♪ - Which car? This one? - Yeah.

- Which car? This one? - Yeah.

♪ ♪

♪ ♪

narrator: After getting consent from Erica,

Herrera searches her white Pontiac.

♪ ♪

- Oh!

That's our victim's cell phone.

♪ ♪

- I mean, unbelievable.

- That is our victim's cell phone.

We're on the right track.

- We went from nothing to jackpot.

♪ ♪

- OK.

♪ ♪

- A friend of mine.

♪ ♪

♪ ♪

♪ ♪

- What's your friend's name?

narrator: Erica gives up a man named Mike

as the one who gave her Santos' phone.

♪ ♪

- We're gonna have to talk to this guy.

- It's rolling, and it's rolling fast.

♪ ♪

♪ ♪

- The girl.

♪ ♪

- Boom. There we go.

narrator: According to Rico,

a woman named Ivette Corporan gave him the phone.

narrator: He says Ivette picked up Santos

to turn a trick.

narrator: Rico says that after smoking crack together,

Santos took out money to pay Ivette for oral sex.

That's when she pulled a gun on him.

♪ ♪

[speaking Spanish]

♪ ♪

♪ ♪

- Oh. This guy's the whole case.

- Our offender is a female, my friend.

♪ ♪

- Wow.

- That's our girl.

- Ivette.

- She has a past for robbery.

Wow.

Wow. She did a year in prison, my friend.

She did a year in prison, my friend.

♪ ♪

♪ ♪

narrator: According to Rico,

Ivette is leaving town on La Cubana,

a bus line based in Miami.

♪ ♪

- The weather's getting cold, but the case is getting hot.

♪ ♪

♪ ♪

[phone rings]

♪ ♪

- Yeah.

You--

you have her? Where?

♪ ♪

What building? What corner?

I don't see you, dude. What corner?

I don't see you, dude. What corner? - Manny! - Oh.

- Manny! - Oh.

♪ ♪

narrator: The deep cover officer

has nabbed Ivette.

♪ ♪

narrator: Back at Homicide,

a Thanksgiving meal is underway.

- Everybody, please, have a happy,

safe holiday Thanksgiving.

[applause]

[applause] [indistinct chatter]

[indistinct chatter]

♪ ♪

♪ ♪ - This is a bad girl, now.

- This is a bad girl, now.

- This is a bad girl, now. She's been in jail for robbery,

She's been in jail for robbery,

She's been in jail for robbery, and armed robbery at that,

and armed robbery at that,

and she might be very hardcore,

and she might be very hardcore, so she might be hard to crack.

so she might be hard to crack.

♪ ♪

- Whoa. - Yeah. Yeah.

- Oh. - I know you were there.

I know you had the phone. The puzzle is there.

I know you had the phone. The puzzle is there. - Mm. - The only little piece

- Mm. - The only little piece

that was missing was Ivette.

♪ ♪

Tell me what happened to you.

♪ ♪

- I'm not gonna lie.

I smoke crack cocaine. - OK.

♪ ♪

- And I got to a point in my life where--

I'm sorry, this is so embarrassing.

I'm sorry, this is so embarrassing. - It's OK, honey. It's OK.

- It's OK, honey. It's OK.

- I was prostituting. - OK.

narrator: Ivette admits meeting Santos

on the night of the murder.

He proposed for me to have intercourse with him.

- OK.

- But I wasn't with that.

So that's when our argument really started.

- Mm-hmm. - He kicked me out of the car.

And he came out the car to hit me.

♪ ♪

So I ran.

- She's trying to give a self-serving statement.

♪ ♪

♪ ♪

Remember, you're not gonna get any brownie points

for half-truths.

- Hmph.

- You're not gonna get any carrot cake points

for half-truths and half-lies.

♪ ♪

This is a very serious matter, OK?

We're investigating a homicide.

This man died, he was killed,

and you were there. How--

- Absolutely so.

- No, sir. - Abso--

- No, sir. - Abso-- - No, sir.

- No, sir.

It gets me angry that-- - It should.

- I'm telling you what's going on.

I never hurt this man. - OK.

- OK?

- Were you listening to me?

As tough as you are, as much street as you hav.

- I know.

- That's right.

♪ ♪

♪ ♪

♪ ♪

♪ ♪

- I know, my love. I know. - OK?

- This is hell. - That's why--

- This mother[bleep] case,

- This mother[bleep] case, this mother[bleep] world is hell.

this mother[bleep] world is hell.

- [sighs]

♪ ♪

- You OK?

[indistinct]

- [sighs]

♪ ♪

I'm trying.

- That's her last Thanksgiving in Vice, and...

- Yeah.

- We're gonna have dinner with her.

I don't see why not.

♪ ♪

We've been in there over four hours.

Long interviews, you're gonna get hungry,

you're gonna get tired, you're gonna get sleepy.

Everybody's entitled to a little chow.

- You know, sometimes giving a suspect food,

drinks, cigarettes shows them that

"I'm still looking at you as a human.

"I don't wanna judge you by your worst day.

"Let's look past that right now,

and let's try to connect on another level."

♪ ♪

Oh, heavenly father, please bless sister Ivett,

my brother Anthony, and myself,

and bless the food that we're about to receive.

Amen.

- Amen.

♪ ♪

- Yeah?

♪ ♪

- No, sir.

- Really?

♪ ♪

- I'll give you the piece of the puzzle

- I'll give you the piece of the puzzle that you're missing.

that you're missing.

♪ ♪

- OK.

♪ ♪

[sighs]

♪ ♪

♪ ♪

♪ ♪

♪ ♪

- Wow.

♪ ♪

♪ ♪

- I know.

[sobbing]

♪ ♪

♪ ♪ - There you have it.

- There you have it.

- Good job.

- Good job. Very good job. Thanks.

Very good job. Thanks.

Very good job. Thanks. - Thanks very much.

- Thanks very much.

♪ ♪

Glad I brought justice to the family.

But that's not all I'm glad for.

♪ ♪

I'm always sad for everybody.

That's just me.

That's just me. I'm sad for him, sad for her.

I'm sad for him, sad for her.

She's only 25 years old. She's out there tricking.

♪ ♪

♪ ♪ - Thank you very much. - Take care.

- Thank you very much. - Take care.

OK? - I will.

- Thank you for telling me the truth.

We needed it.

- I needed that too. - I know you did.

- Hey, you have a good night. Happy Thanksgiving.

- Same to you, my darling.

- You know, detectives often go into interviews

expecting to hear one thing, and then sometimes,

the witness tells you something

the witness tells you something that kinda rocks your world.

that kinda rocks your world.

And now it changes

And now it changes the whole complexion of the case.

the whole complexion of the case.

♪ ♪

- The shooting happened in the backyard over that way.

- The shooting happened in the backyard over that way. But the victim was--

But the victim was--

stumbled out to the street somewhere.

♪ ♪

Last name is Dick. First name is Jared.

♪ ♪

narrator: 21-year-old Jared Dick

was known as JD to his friends and family.

♪ ♪

Raised in Tulsa, he was an aspiring musician.

♪ ♪

- They were sitting on the very corner.

narrator: JD was shot once in his torso.

♪ ♪

Responding officers found three witnesses

Responding officers found three witnesses inside the house.

inside the house.

- Jerald Ross was also here,

who's missing.

narrator: A fourth person fled the scene.

♪ ♪

- All right, show me where he was shot.

♪ ♪

♪ ♪

♪ ♪

narrator: The team finds multiple .22 caliber casings.

narrator: And one nine-millimeter.

♪ ♪

♪ ♪ - Well, he was only hit once.

- Well, he was only hit once.

♪ ♪

narrator: Inside...

narrator: They find drugs.

♪ ♪

narrator: And an assortment of weapons.

♪ ♪

♪ ♪

♪ ♪ narrator: But no guns.

narrator: But no guns.

♪ ♪

- I want complete honesty.

If there's dope involved in this,

I don't care, OK? I'm not the drug police.

♪ ♪

- I relapsed. - OK.

- I relapsed. - OK. - And-- - Are we talking meth, dope?

- And-- - Are we talking meth, dope?

- Meth. - OK.

- Crystal methamphetamine, to be specific.

- But who brought the dope over?

I believe it's Day. Like D-A-Y.

narrator: Chris says he was recently introduced

to Daulton Day by his friend Jerald.

- OK, so you, JD, Daulton, and Jerald are at the house.

Who else is there?

Who else is there? - Um, Mika, my girlfriend.

- Um, Mika, my girlfriend.

- OK.

Why were they gonna come kill you?

Were they gonna come after Daulton and kill you

because you're now hanging out with Daulton,

or are you involved in Daulton's deal?

♪ ♪

- According to him,

- According to him, they were gonna kill me because of him.

they were gonna kill me because of him.

they were gonna kill me because of him. - Does he owe money?

- Does he owe money?

- I don't know, but I know how the cartel works.

♪ ♪

- Mm-kay, and you've known JD your whole life,

like, childhood buddies type thing?

Mm-kay.

Now, I know this is hard,

and I'm sorry you're having to go through this,

but you need to understand something, OK?

♪ ♪

Your buddy's dead.

Your buddy's dead. - He is? - Yeah.

- He is? - Yeah.

- He is? - Yeah. So look--look. - No.

So look--look. - No.

[sobbing] No!

[sobbing] No! I'm--I'm sorry.

I'm--I'm sorry.

♪ ♪

♪ ♪ - Hang tight just a sec.

- Hang tight just a sec.

♪ ♪

narrator: Detectives Justin Ritter

and Dianna Baumann are going to speak

and Dianna Baumann are going to speak with Chris' girlfriend, Mika.

with Chris' girlfriend, Mika.

♪ ♪

- OK. Tell me everything.

- Just some, like, sketchy-ass [bleep] was happening.

Throughout the day, we've been getting different guns.

narrator: Mika says the guys

purchased a nine-millimeter from a gun store.

purchased a nine-millimeter from a gun store. - It was Daulton's money.

- It was Daulton's money.

- Mm-kay. - He just has a felony,

so he can't go buy a gun.

♪ ♪

- OK.

So they bought the gun for Daulton.

♪ ♪

- Yeah.

We've all been taking precaution all day

because we feel like people are coming at us.

- Because you're paranoid,

or because there's a legitimate threat?

- Uh, apparently there's a legitimate threat.

- Uh, apparently there's a legitimate threat. He wouldn't [bleep] tell me.

He wouldn't [bleep] tell me.

He wouldn't [bleep] tell me. - Who? Daulton? - Daulton.

- Who? Daulton? - Daulton.

- So Daulton's acting like he's big dog,

and he's got some big drug dealers after him, right?

- Yeah. - OK.

- That dude is just incredibly sketchy.

♪ ♪

And on top of that, Chris and I both thought

that JD was trying to hit on me or steal me from him.

- Mm-kay.

Daulton was trying to prove to Chris

that "I'll kill a mother[bleep] for you."

♪ ♪

♪ ♪ - And he freakin' shoots JD

- And he freakin' shoots JD

- And he freakin' shoots JD to prove that he's loyal to you guys?

to prove that he's loyal to you guys?

- That's probably what-- what it is.

I--I don't know the reason, though.

♪ ♪

- Did you go out back with 'em?

- No.

- Who had the gun in their hand

when they went out back?

when they went out back? - I'm sure it was [bleep] Daulton.

- I'm sure it was [bleep] Daulton.

- All right. - I really don't.

- Anything else you're not telling me

that I need to know?

♪ ♪

- They killed their own.

♪ ♪

I think that they shot him

to prove that he's loyal to this new group.

♪ ♪

It's insane.

It's insane. [door lock beeps]

[door lock beeps]

♪ ♪

- Obviously, I know there's more that's going on here.

OK?

- I went outside.

JD, me, Jerald, and Daulton

were all out back.

narrator: He claims Daulton pulled the nine-millimeter

out of his sweatshirt pocket.

- All of the sudden, just no reason.

♪ ♪

♪ ♪ Just turns around...

Just turns around...

♪ ♪

♪ ♪ And he shot JD.

And he shot JD.

♪ ♪

♪ ♪

- He hit him right--right here.

- All right, hang tight for me, man.

♪ ♪

- Well, Patrol's out looking for Jerald,

so I'm gonna go over here and look up Daulton.

♪ ♪

He looks like he's 12. Looks like a kid.

narrator: Although Chris and Mika

claim he's a drug dealer,

21-year-old Daulton Day has no convictions.

- Both Chris and Mika are saying

this Daulton Day guy is the shooter.

♪ ♪

I need you to be honest and not protect Daulton,

even if he's your buddy during this deal, OK?

♪ ♪

- You know, he's a big-time dope dealer.

♪ ♪

- Daulton's a little 20-year-old white kid.

I'm not buying Daulton's a badass.

- Nah, hey, Daulton's a badass.

♪ ♪

And we were just pointing at the guns--

pointing different guns at each other.

Just, like, pow!

♪ ♪

- Was there something going on that

Chris and, uh, his girlfriend

thought that JD was kinda trying

to hit on the girlfriend or something?

♪ ♪

I had the gun.

♪ ♪

- The nine-millimeter that they just bought?

- Yeah. - OK.

And why did you have the gun?

I didn't know it was loaded,

and I was just trying to scare JD,

and I was just trying to scare JD, and what I'm trying to say is,

and what I'm trying to say is,

I didn't intentionally shoot him.

I didn't know the bullets-- no bullets was up in there.

And it hit him.

♪ ♪

He was all, "Ah!" and started running.

He was all, "Ah!" and started running. And then soon as he started running,

And then soon as he started running,

right before he got inside the door,

Daulton shot--pow!

One shot.

♪ ♪

- Which gun do you have?

- The gray. The nine-millimeter.

♪ ♪

- So you--you did fire one round on accident.

- Yes.

- Yes. - With the nine-millimeter. - Yes.

- With the nine-millimeter. - Yes.

- With the nine-millimeter. - Yes. - And then Daulton--

- And then Daulton--

- And then Daulton-- - Daulton fired--pow!--

- Daulton fired--pow!--

with, uh, with the brown one.

♪ ♪

♪ ♪ He had the .22.

He had the .22.

♪ ♪

- And you hit JD on which side?

- I hit--I believe I hit JD, like,

over here, like, to this side.

over here, like, to this side. - On his left side?

- On his left side?

- On his left side? - I believe on his left side.

- I believe on his left side.

♪ ♪

- All right, hang tight for me, man.

You seeing this?

- He's the shooter.

- He's the shooter. - You think Daulton--

- You think Daulton--

- I don't know. - You think Daulton even shot?

- I don't know.

It's the most bass-ackwards thing I've ever seen.

♪ ♪

- You know, when suspects are under the influence

- You know, when suspects are under the influence of alcohol, drugs,

of alcohol, drugs,

of alcohol, drugs, you never know what you're gonna get.

you never know what you're gonna get.

There are cases sometimes when you basically just say,

"You know what? Let's just put everybody

in the same room, and let's just see what happens."

♪ ♪

- Yeah!

- Yeah! - What the [bleep]?

- What the [bleep]?

- [sighs] - Here.

- Why did he do it?

♪ ♪

- 'Cause it--

- 'Cause it-- - Did it-- - [bleep].

- Did it-- - [bleep].

♪ ♪

- I don't know what the [bleep]--

I don't know who killed who.

♪ ♪

- Why don't we get Jerald, put him in there?

♪ ♪

- You're not saying you did this

when Daulton really did it, are you?

when Daulton really did it, are you? - No. - OK.

- No. - OK.

Let's go in here. They're wanting to see you too.

♪ ♪

- You didn't do it.

- You saw it, right? - Yeah.

- It was Daulton, right?

♪ ♪

- Why the f--

♪ ♪

- Why--why-- - No, I'm [bleep] serious.

[all speaking]

Like, no, I'm serious. - I hope they don't charge

all of us with murder. - Listen.

all of us with murder. - Listen. - It's a public-ass place.

- It's a public-ass place.

♪ ♪

- I am going to kill my brother's killer.

- I am going to kill my brother's killer. - 'Cause, like, man, that [bleep]--

- 'Cause, like, man, that [bleep]--

- I'm talking to you.

- I'm talking to you. - Who's with me?! [laughter]

- Who's with me?! [laughter]

- Lock the door.

♪ ♪

- Here's the deal.

You need to tell them what you told me.

♪ ♪

So tell them--

So tell them-- - I accidentally shot him.

- I accidentally shot him.

♪ ♪

I didn't know the safety was off the gun barrel.

♪ ♪

- Come on out.

- No, like--

- We'll talk. You'll see him again.

Come on.

♪ ♪

What's up, man?

What happened when you guys went outside

What happened when you guys went outside on that back porch?

on that back porch?

♪ ♪

- Who was acting crazy?

- Jerald?

♪ ♪

- Why?

Was somebody pointing a gun at you?

♪ ♪

- It's not "something like that."

- It's not "something like that." You need to look at me and be a man

You need to look at me and be a man

and tell me what happened.

♪ ♪

Did you accidentally hit JD and kill him?

Huh?

- You're pretty sure you didn't kill him?

♪ ♪

- Come on, man. It's the last hurdle.

Look at me.

Did you shoot a gun?

It's OK if you did. I just need to know.

♪ ♪

♪ ♪ - When did you shoot, buddy?

- When did you shoot, buddy?

- So who shot first?

- J-A-R-L-D.

- J-A-R-L-D. - J-A-A-R-L-D? Jerald?

- J-A-A-R-L-D? Jerald?

♪ ♪

After Jerald shot, how many times did you shoo?

♪ ♪

- One? Yeah?

OK. So you shot once.

♪ ♪

Hang tight, buddy.

♪ ♪

The story he tells through the fogginess

is the same that Jerald tells.

♪ ♪

Two guys were shooting at this guy,

and he's dead, so they're both gonna get charged right now.

I don't think that Daulton hit him,

I don't think that Daulton hit him, but I don't think it matters.

but I don't think it matters.

He's still gonna go to jail.

So I mean, it's-- they both get charged.

- You all right?

♪ ♪

- This case, getting down to the bottom of it,

- This case, getting down to the bottom of it, it's very difficult.

it's very difficult.

Not only are they using meth, but they're paranoid,

thinking that stuff's going on that's not.

- Well, hopefully, the only thing positive

that will come of this is that somebody in that little group

will turn their life around.

♪ ♪

- You know, there are cases when an investigator

feels like he has the whole case figured out.

He's looked at all the evidence,

he's looked at all the witness statements,

and then something happens,

and it takes you into a whole different direction.

It's one of the things that

you have to understand as an investigator,

especially young investigators.

You're never gonna know everything

You're never gonna know everything that happened in a case.

that happened in a case.

♪ ♪

- What happened?

- Pretty sure we have a good identity on him--

on the victim.

He was found by family members.

♪ ♪

narrator: 23-year-old Mark Veloz

narrator: 23-year-old Mark Veloz was the youngest of three brothers.

was the youngest of three brothers.

He hoped to one day join the Marines.

♪ ♪

- Hopefully, those'll fit. - All right.

♪ ♪

♪ ♪ [indistinct chatter]

[indistinct chatter]

narrator: In the front room of the house,

investigators find Mark's body.

- Appears that it's a single shot to the forehea.

♪ ♪

- On the sofa next to the victim,

they find a single nine-millimeter shell casing.

they find a single nine-millimeter shell casing. - Right now, we're just trying

- Right now, we're just trying

to piece together what happened.

It doesn't look like he fought or put up a struggle.

♪ ♪

- Gonna go talk to these neighbors real quick.

See if they know anything.

Hi. Scott Sayers. - Joe Minosh.

- Did you know the guy that lived there?

- I didn't.

- Did you hear anything last night?

- Mm-mm.

- Do you remember anybody coming and going?

- OK.

How often would you say, in an hour,

would there be people that would come and go?

- Like, ten.

- In an hour? - Yeah.

- Come and go?

♪ ♪

The sheer traffic that comes and goes

pretty much tells you there's drugs going on here.

I mean, there are countless times

where I would be in Patrol,

and I would get a complaint about a drug house,

and I'd watch traffic coming back and forth,

and it's almost like a McDonald's drive-throug.

narrator: Tabor is finding further evidence

that drugs may have been sold out of the house.

- It has cameras out front at three different angles

that can be viewed from inside.

And then I found what we think

is gonna be some powdered cocaine.

♪ ♪

Marijuana residue.

Drug paraphernalia.

I can't say definitively that the house is a drug house,

but it definitely has the appearance.

♪ ♪

- They took some time going through the house.

Every cabinet was open,

every drawer had been gone through.

every drawer had been gone through. Every closet.

Every closet.

If there were any substantial amount

of drugs or money in there, it was removed.

♪ ♪

- I got a pretty good idea

of what Mark was doing in that house.

♪ ♪

- You think this has to do with dope?

♪ ♪

♪ ♪

- Tell me about that.

♪ ♪

narrator: According to the cousin,

narrator: According to the cousin, the victim and some friends

the victim and some friends

beat up a man named Mark Valencia.

narrator: He says since the fight,

Valencia had been threatening to kill the victim.

♪ ♪

♪ ♪

- I don't think he has anything to do with it.

He seemed pretty genuine.

He gave us some good information,

and I think we've possibly identified

a young kid that the victim had an issue with

that had been fighting with in the neighborhood.

♪ ♪

From what I understand, you and Mark got into a fight.

♪ ♪

- Yeah. - Some time ago.

- Actually, they jumped me. - Who jumped you?

narrator: Valencia claims he was attacked

by the victim and his family.

- They used bottles and everything and kicked me--

- Did you go to the hospital? - Yeah.

They dislocated my arm.

- Now, I understand that you were going around,

telling people in the neighborhood

you were gonna get back at him.

- Yeah, I was gonna beat the--

I was gonna beat the [bleep] out of him.

- Did you go to his house that night?

- No. - Did you ask anybody

to do this for you? - Oh, no, definitely not.

I'm telling you, I'm a real man.

Anything, I'ma tell you, I-- - Do you own a gun?

- Huh? No, sir. No, sir. I got these.

♪ ♪

- So you're saying you had absolutely

nothing to do with that? - Yeah, hell, yeah.

I had nothing to do with that.

♪ ♪

- I don't think he has anything to do with it.

He seems pretty truthful about what's going on.

I've gotten an email from Susan Allen,

who does our ballistic testing.

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narrator: The ballistics lab has found

a potential match for Tabor's casing.

- So hopefully we get

some good information out of this.

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- So this is the cartridge case from the scene.

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I hold 'em both up side by side,

and you can see the striations line up.

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- You can tell that it's the same,

basically, pattern that--

basically, pattern that-- - Well, it looks exactly the same.

- Well, it looks exactly the same.

- Right.

narrator: Allen confirms the casings

were from the same gun.

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- If you know anything about this,

- If you know anything about this, now is your chance.

now is your chance.

Do you ever let anybody borrow that car from you?

- Well, tell me. What do you know?

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narrator: The driver claims his friend Hugo

narrator: The driver claims his friend Hugo robbed their friend Mark.

robbed their friend Mark.

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- So the night that you went over there,

- So the night that you went over there, so you hung out, right?

so you hung out, right?

narrator: Hugo says he and the victim

had been friends since high school.

narrator: Hugo claims that he and the victim

had a plan to steal drugs from the house

where Mark worked

and make it look like a robbery.

narrator: He says they gathered the drugs

narrator: He says they gathered the drugs from the house,

from the house,

but when Hugo went to steal some guns

hidden in the bedroom, Mark stopped him.

[imitates gun cocking]

When I heard that, that's when I shot,

but I thought I was gonna shoot just, like, to scare him,

but at the same [bleep] time, he stood up.

And then he-- he just sat back down.

And then he-- he just sat back down. He sat back down, and he said...

He sat back down, and he said...

[sighs] Like that.

And he fell.

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Like, sometimes, I wanna cry about it,

but the tears won't go down my face.

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He was like my--

he was like my little brother.

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- They have such an amount of guilt.

When they get caught and they get arrested,

it's almost a relief.

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If he tells Brian what he di,

then maybe he's right with God themself.

- Every night, I'd have dreams of, like,

everybody that I know just--

I don't know, like, they would look at me,

I don't know, like, they would look at me, like, with disappointment.

like, with disappointment.

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- Let's do it.

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- You know, when you walk into an interview room,

you're playing mental chess.

There are a lot of things at stake.

From an investigative standpoint,

if I don't get what I need outta here,

I don't solve this case.

And if I don't solve this case,

I let a lot of people down.

I let a lot of people down. The evidence say one thing,

The evidence say one thing,

witness account say something else,

but there is nothing more powerful

than somebody's own words to say, "I did it."

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