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[dramatic music]

♪ ♪

[siren wailing]

[siren wailing] - When tempers run high,

- When tempers run high,

- When tempers run high, violence can often follow.

violence can often follow.

Homicides sparked by anger are all too common these day.

♪ ♪

Tonight, on "The First 48: Critical Minutes,"

three homicides that erupted in the heat of the moment.

♪ ♪

- A car ride turns violent...

- Whoever did this comes up here to the door.

Boom.

- Then...

- That leg's turned the wrong way, isn't it?

- A man is run over and left to die in a field...

- And I caught a case

when a street fight escalates into murder.

when a street fight escalates into murder. [radio chatter]

[radio chatter]

I'm just gonna ask you one time.

♪ ♪

Did you make a mistake, or are you a killer?

Are you a cold-hearted, cold-blooded killer?

♪ ♪

- [cries]

♪ ♪

[somber music]

♪ ♪

♪ ♪ - In a heated moment,

- In a heated moment,

love can quickly turn into hate,

and that can have deadly consequences.

[police radio chatter]

♪ ♪

[police radio chatter]

[police radio chatter] - So what do we know so far?

- So what do we know so far?

- Gunshot wound to the right temple.

No exit wound.

♪ ♪

- What's his name?

- It's gonna Evan Stout Jr.

- It's gonna Evan Stout Jr. [somber music]

[somber music]

narrator: 19-year-old Evan Stout Jr.

worked a manager at a manufacturing plant.

worked a manager at a manufacturing plant. He was also working

He was also working

towards completing his GED.

♪ ♪

[dramatic music]

[dramatic music] [radio chatter]

[radio chatter]

♪ ♪

- Right temple? - Right temple.

[police radio chatter]

- There's broken glass over here on this passenger window.

♪ ♪

- Oh, yeah.

- So he's driving,

because they pull him out on that side.

Whoever did this comes up here to the door.

Boom.

- It's almost like somebody was pulling up to make a deal,

and then just, pop, and took off.

- Yeah.

♪ ♪

narrator: A few feet away from the car...

- Just a little bit.

♪ ♪

- A set of blue Jordans and a single white Jordan.

- A set of blue Jordans and a single white Jordan. - It's a small shoe.

- It's a small shoe.

- It's a small shoe. Could be a female shoe.

Could be a female shoe.

♪ ♪

♪ ♪ - Tulsa Police.

- Tulsa Police.

narrator: While canvassing down the street,

the team finds a potential witness.

- Kinda give me the rundown of what you know.

- Saw a woman banging on the window.

narrator: The man says a woman knocked on his window

moments after the shooting.

moments after the shooting. - How old?

- How old?

- 20s probably.

She was white, dark hair.

- And what is she saying to you?

- And what is she saying to you? - She was real frantic,

- She was real frantic,

- She was real frantic, couldn't understand her really well.

couldn't understand her really well.

I saw her, and I just, uh...

narrator: He says he didn't let the woman inside,

and she took off.

- Which way did she leave? You didn't see?

- No. - [sighs]

♪ ♪

narrator: The team searches the witness's backyard.

- Jason, check this out.

♪ ♪

There's a shoe with a gun in it.

- That's huge,

and the shoe matches the shoe that's found at the scene.

♪ ♪

Their cell phone's laying there.

♪ ♪

- Oh, good.

That gives us a motherload to work with.

♪ ♪

- Hey, we have something over here.

♪ ♪

narrator: Outside a neighboring house...

♪ ♪

- It's for Tiffany Wesley.

narrator: An envelope with a name on it.

- Tiffany Wesley? - Mm-hmm.

- Tiffany Wesley? - Mm-hmm. - Just W-E-S-L-E-Y? - Yeah.

- Just W-E-S-L-E-Y? - Yeah.

You think you might be able to recognize her?

narrator: Patrol looks up Tiffany Wesley

to show the witness.

♪ ♪

- Very good. Thanks a million.

♪ ♪

One way or the other,

she's one heck of a witness,

and is gonna be able to shed a ton of light on this case,

and is gonna be able to shed a ton of light on this case, or she's a suspect in this.

or she's a suspect in this.

We need to find this girl.

[somber music]

♪ ♪

- Did we get phones?

- Yeah.

♪ ♪

♪ ♪ Uh, these are old calls.

Uh, these are old calls.

♪ ♪

Nothing we want on that one.

♪ ♪

Good. It works.

♪ ♪

Oh, this looks like Tiffany's phone.

♪ ♪

- Wanna make sure she's alive.

- Wanna make sure she's alive. - Of all the calls that she made,

- Of all the calls that she made,

she made about 90% of them to Dad.

♪ ♪

- I have an address for the dad.

- I have an address for the dad. - All right, good, good.

- All right, good, good.

- All right, good, good. We'll go there, see if we can find her.

We'll go there, see if we can find her.

♪ ♪

The crime scene where this where this went down--

but what are they doing up there to begin with?

If they actually got robbed, and she jumped out,

there could be a potential danger for her

from these people, these perpetrators

to gun her down.

♪ ♪

[knocking on door]

[dog barking]

I'm sorry to disturb you this late.

narrator: Tiffany's grandmother comes to the doo.

narrator: Tiffany's grandmother comes to the doo. - Hey, where's Tiffany?

- Hey, where's Tiffany?

narrator: She says Tiffany called her a few hours ago.

- [distorted voice]

- OK.

She in a panic?

- Where would she be?

narrator: According to the family,

Tiffany said she was hiding near the crime scene.

- If we find her, I'll tell you what,

I'll call you and let you know the next day.

♪ ♪

- [sighs]

narrator: White and Leatherman head back

to the crime scene area to look for Tiffany.

to the crime scene area to look for Tiffany. - Think she's freaking out.

- Think she's freaking out.

- Is she hiding from us

or some shooter that shot at that car?

I don't know.

♪ ♪

♪ ♪ - Check out here.

- Check out here.

♪ ♪

♪ ♪ Musta jumped at it all.

Musta jumped at it all.

♪ ♪

There was a little shed open,

and nothing was in it at all.

narrator: Tiffany is gone.

- She's giving us a chase.

♪ ♪

- Next of kin?

narrator: White reaches out to Evan's family in Iowa.

- [sighs] Well, he was shot tonight.

- We're working on that right now, dear.

- [cries]

- The important thing right now is...

- OK.

- OK. - He's still alive at the moment.

- He's still alive at the moment.

- [crying]

- I don't know, dear.

- I don't know, dear. They're not optimistic.

They're not optimistic.

- I'm sorry.

I'm a parent myself, so drive careful.

- All right, dear, bye.

- Oh, dear God.

- That's rough.

I wish I could console her in person.

♪ ♪

[whistles] Man.

We need to find Tiffany.

I'm starting to wonder why she's not calling us.

♪ ♪

Let me show you this.

narrator: White enlists the Warrant Squad

to help find Tiffany.

- If you look at the map,

OK, so she bangs on the back windows of this house,

and from there she goes over here

to this big old house right here.

- Yeah.

- Ronnie and I went over there

- Ronnie and I went over there and checked it out this morning.

and checked it out this morning.

and checked it out this morning. We didn't see anything.

We didn't see anything.

- Mm-hmm.

- My thought, this, uh... Osage back here.

♪ ♪

Places to hide even in this area.

narrator: They believe she may be hiding in the woos

narrator: They believe she may be hiding in the woos north of the crime scene.

north of the crime scene.

- All right, guys.

♪ ♪

narrator: While the Warrants Squad

heads out to search the area...

heads out to search the area... [siren wailing]

[siren wailing]

[cell phone rings]

- This is Detective White, Tulsa Homicide.

- Who is this again?

- This is Tiffany?

[intense music]

♪ ♪

- Tiffany, where are you at?

- OK, don't go anywhere.

- Yeah, we'll come and--

- Yeah, we'll come and-- we'll come and pick you up.

we'll come and pick you up.

- Okay. - All right, bye.

♪ ♪

I just got a phone call from Tiffany.

She's at her grandmother's house.

She's expecting you guys to bring her down here.

♪ ♪

My name is Jason White.

I appreciate you calling me.

I just wanna hear it from the beginning.

[sighs]

♪ ♪

- [crying]

♪ ♪

♪ ♪ - I know you're hurting.

- I know you're hurting.

You had a long night.

♪ ♪

- What were you guys even doing up there in that part of town?

- It's all right.

Take a breath.

♪ ♪

- OK.

narrator: Tiffany claims she carried a gun

for protection from Evan.

- And he's evil. He's just abusive.

He's [bleep] crazy.

- OK.

- OK.

- OK. And then what did you do?

And then what did you do?

narrator: She says she shot out the passenger window

to draw the attention of police.

♪ ♪

I knew if we got pulled over,

I knew, I knew we'd be separated.

♪ ♪

♪ ♪ - Let's say that I'm him, OK?

- Let's say that I'm him, OK?

- Oh, my God.

- And you're in the passenger's seat,

- And you're in the passenger's seat, and I'm the driver's seat right here.

and I'm the driver's seat right here.

Describe to me what happened next.

- [heavy breathing]

- He didn't have a gun in his hand, right?

- No, but I know he...

narrator: She claims Evan motioned to get a gun

from the center console... - He grabbed the console..

narrator: And threatened to kill her.

- Describe to me as if you had the gun in your hand

what you did.

How did it go?

♪ ♪

- I shot him.

♪ ♪

Oh, my God.

- Where did you shoot him?

♪ ♪

- In his head.

- Tell me where.

- Here.

♪ ♪

- OK.

- OK. And then what did you do after that happened?

And then what did you do after that happened?

- Where did you lose your shoe? Do you remember?

- Probably in someone's backyard or someone's house.

♪ ♪

- OK.

To go through this,

you guys were having a bad relationship,

true?

- True, but oh, I love him.

♪ ♪

[crying] - All right, sit tight.

♪ ♪

- [crying]

- [crying] What have I [bleep] done?

What have I [bleep] done?

♪ ♪

- In this case, if the suspect

was in an abusive relationship with her boyfriend,

now what potentially happens is,

everybody has a breaking point.

everybody has a breaking point. Everybody has that point

Everybody has that point

to say, you know, "I'm tired of it.

to say, you know, "I'm tired of it. "I'm tired of physical abuse,

"I'm tired of physical abuse,

"I'm tired the mental abuse,

and I just need a way out."

Oftentimes, when it happens again,

Oftentimes, when it happens again, you have a weapon there,

you have a weapon there,

suddenly one day they snap.

- When we searched the car,

- When we searched the car, we didn't find a gun in the car,

we didn't find a gun in the car,

but more importantly, the guy's looking forward.

He doesn't get one to the front part of his face

as if he's aggressing her.

as if he's aggressing her. He gets one to the side of his head

He gets one to the side of his head

as if he's not even looking at her.

♪ ♪

All right.

♪ ♪

I'm gonna arrest you today

for second-degree murder,

not first-degree.

♪ ♪

Now ultimately, what's gonna happen down the line,

Now ultimately, what's gonna happen down the line, I don't know.

I don't know.

♪ ♪

You handled this wrong today.

- I know I did.

♪ ♪

♪ ♪ [door clicks shut]

[door clicks shut]

♪ ♪

- This is gonna affect her the rest of her life.

Not only her life, but the lives of her family,

Not only her life, but the lives of her family, the lives of the victims.

the lives of the victims.

All right, take care of yourself, all right?

- Thank you.

♪ ♪

- Disagreements about minor things

sometimes can turn deadly,

sometimes can turn deadly, especially when friends

especially when friends

who've been knowing each other for a long time,

they feel like they've been crossed,

emotions get involved, and it can erupt into violence.

♪ ♪

- That leg's turned the wrong way, isn't it?

- It appears as though an individual

was intentionally run over by a vehicle.

♪ ♪

- He's all fractured up in his ribs.

Yeah, this one's fractured too. - Mm-hmm.

narrator: Almost every major bone

in the victim's body has been broken.

- It's a tough way to die.

♪ ♪

- You got ID?

♪ ♪

- Terry Nash.

- 49-year-old Terry Nash

- 49-year-old Terry Nash was known to his friends as Catfish.

was known to his friends as Catfish.

He was thought of as a helpful neighbor and frien.

He leaves behind his wife.

Near the victim,

they find some unusual evidence.

they find some unusual evidence. - He's got steak and stuff.

- He's got steak and stuff.

- Steak?

- Yeah. Looks like he was coming back

from the grocery store or something

'cause he's got, like, four or five packages of steak.

- You think he came through here

like he was running from somebody?

'Cause he drops stuff as he's going.

A knife? - Yep.

♪ ♪

And why does he pull the knife o?

♪ ♪

♪ ♪ - Grandpapa's dead.

- Grandpapa's dead.

- To my brother, right? - Bro, what happened to Terry?

narrator: The victim's family arrives at the scene.

- What happened to my brother? - Come here and I'll tell you.

Come here and let me talk to you, come here.

- [crying] - Give me your hand.

Listen to me, OK?

He was walking back,

He was walking back, it looked like he had a steak...

it looked like he had a steak...

narrator: The sister says she saw the victim

an hour ago selling steaks door-to-door.

♪ ♪

- We're gonna try to find out what happened this morning

and catch who did this.

♪ ♪

- Guy kicks in the door,

comes with a baseball bat

looking for our decedent,

and he's claiming he owes him $60.

narrator: Patrol says the wie knew the intruder

narrator: Patrol says the wie knew the intruder and provided a description.

and provided a description.

and provided a description. Just moments ago,

Just moments ago,

police track the man down nearby.

He is taken to headquarters for questioning.

♪ ♪

Detective John Palmer looks up the man they have in custody.

♪ ♪

- Charles Stewart.

He's 29 years old.

He's 29 years old. He has prior arrests

He has prior arrests

He has prior arrests for drugs and burglary.

for drugs and burglary.

It looks like he went to the penitentiary

in New Orleans, Louisiana.

♪ ♪

- [sighs]

John Palmer. - Charles Stewart.

- Sit down.

narrator: Charles admits

he kicked down Catfish's door that morning.

- I kicked the door down...

narrator: He claims Catfish took $60 from him.

narrator: He claims Catfish took $60 from him. He wanted it back.

He wanted it back.

- Charles.

♪ ♪

♪ ♪

- [crying]

♪ ♪

narrator: Charles says a friend of his picked him up

from Catfish's house in a green Jeep.

♪ ♪

[dramatic musical sting]

narrator: Charles says it was his friend

who ran over Catfish.

♪ ♪

[siren wailing]

[radio chatter]

♪ ♪

♪ ♪

- They got him.

♪ ♪

- What's going on, man?

♪ ♪

- [distorted voice]

narrator: The man says he was friends with Catfish,

whom he knew as T.

♪ ♪

narrator: He says he drove Charles

around the neighborhood looking for Catfish.

narrator: They spotted him walking by the school fiel.

narrator: They spotted him walking by the school fiel. They stopped and got out of the Jeep.

They stopped and got out of the Jeep.

And...

♪ ♪

♪ ♪

- I've got people telling me you were the driver.

- No.

♪ ♪

- Did you know that Catfish was out there severely injured?

♪ ♪

- Then you could've sent some help, right?

Could you have sent some help?

- And you chose not to send him help!

- What are you afraid of?

Him still be conscious and telling on you?

Is that what you're afraid of? - No.

♪ ♪

- You could've saved him.

♪ ♪

Both admit to being in it,

and both say the other's the driver.

- Right.

- I'm gonna put them both in jail.

- Charge them both.

- Charlie's got all the reasons for killing him,

but they both were involved

in tracking this guy down,

in tracking this guy down, and they both had ample opportunities

and they both had ample opportunities

to send him some help, and both failed to do so.

narrator: Charles and his friend

narrator: Charles and his friend are both charged with murder.

are both charged with murder.

are both charged with murder. They are taken to jail.

They are taken to jail.

- Money is a common denominator for murder.

Sometimes it's not even the sum of money,

Sometimes it's not even the sum of money, it's about respect.

it's about respect.

More specifically, it's about being disrespected.

Often close friends have disagreements about money.

Someone has a moment of insanity.

Someone has a moment of insanity. And after the reality set in

And after the reality set in

that, "I just killed a close friend,"

they gonna basically say

"Was any amount of money worth somebody losing their life?"

♪ ♪

[off-key notes]

♪ ♪

♪ ♪

narrator: Charles says he and his friend

were searching for Catfish in the Jeep.

They spotted him in the field

and drove in after him.

♪ ♪

narrator: Charles says Catfish tried to stab him

through the Jeep's window.

♪ ♪

♪ ♪

narrator: He says after he saw Catfish on the ground,

he drove off in a panic with his friend

still in the car.

♪ ♪

- It's all about one friend stealing from another...

♪ ♪

And then a pretty severe overreaction to it.

♪ ♪

Charlie, he actually liked the guy.

They were friends.

We're gonna take him to jail for murder.

narrator: Charles' friend, initially charged with murder,

narrator: Charles' friend, initially charged with murder, would have his charges amended.

would have his charges amended.

- OK, thanks. Bye.

I just talked to the prosecutor,

and we're gonna charge him now

with failure to report a felony.

He has every opportunity to tell the officers, you know,

"Catfish is laying out there in the field dying,"

and he never once says a word.

♪ ♪

- Street fights can escalate

over the slightest macho posturing,

and it can ultimately lead to someone getting killed.

and it can ultimately lead to someone getting killed. My team caught a case like this

My team caught a case like this

when we were called to the shooting

of a man in a Memphis apartment complex.

♪ ♪

We got a group of males involved

in some type of altercation,

in some type of altercation, and one of males ended up shot.

and one of males ended up shot.

It's just so discouraging to see night after night,

It's just so discouraging to see night after night, day after day,

day after day,

so many men just flushing their lives

so many men just flushing their lives down the drain over nothing.

down the drain over nothing.

♪ ♪

- I just got here on the scene.

- There was a fight across the parking lot

there at the gas station.

narrator: Responding officers tell Mason

that 911 received a call about a street fight in the area

that 911 received a call about a street fight in the area just before the murder.

just before the murder.

- The officers get over there.

They don't find anybody involved over there.

A couple minutes, we get the shooting here.

♪ ♪

narrator: Bystanders identify the victim

as 19-year-old Durell McVay

known in the neighborhood as Rel.

Just out of high school,

he was already making a name for himself

as a successful musician and hip-hop producer.

♪ ♪

- Really, we got a little bit of blood,

a couple of spent shell casings,

a couple T-shirts.

That's it.

That's it. The casings are here,

The casings are here,

so apparently the shooter shoots this way,

the victim, he falls over there.

♪ ♪

- So see, I think that's gonna be the victim right there,

the one wearing all black and white tennis shoes.

I think that's gonna be the victim.

♪ ♪

OK, all right.

♪ ♪

Can you rewind that, please?

♪ ♪

- You see this guy right here with the white shirt

with the number five on the back?

Look like he's focusing on Durell.

♪ ♪

narrator: As the argument escalates,

the victim tries to walk away.

♪ ♪

- Kay, see look right here.

Your victim is trying to walk away.

He's trying to leave the situation.

- He sure is. He sure is.

It looks like this guy's trying to protect my victim.

♪ ♪

It's like he's getting in between

him and the bad guys, isn't it?

- Mm-hmm.

♪ ♪

- You know what?

We need to find some of these guys

We need to find some of these guys because they know who my shooter is.

because they know who my shooter is.

♪ ♪

narrator: Mason and her team search the area

for the men involved in the fight.

♪ ♪

- [sighs]

♪ ♪

narrator: Lieutenant Armstrong has located

one of the victim's friends

who was there when the fight broke out.

♪ ♪

Lieutenant Armstrong and the team

head back to headquarters to interview the witness.

- My whole family lived in a housing project,

you know, I was always determined

you know, I was always determined to do something else with my life.

to do something else with my life.

♪ ♪

My kids are going to have to learn

life's just about the decisions that you make

and being able to live with those decisions.

I think these communities are unfairly judged.

They often get judged by the actions of a few.

They often get judged by the actions of a few. This is not who we are

This is not who we are

and why are we representing ourselves in this way?

There was a time that I didn't wanna do homicide

There was a time that I didn't wanna do homicide for that very reason,

for that very reason,

but police can have a bigger presence in these communities,

and community policing is real.

If done correctly, it works.

It gives opportunities to see police in a different light,

but you have to make the investment.

We're not the investments in these communities

as it relates to human capital.

[siren wailing]

- [distorted voice]

narrator: He says at the store,

a group of men began harassing them.

narrator: One man accused Durell

narrator: One man accused Durell of giving him dirty looks.

of giving him dirty looks.

narrator: He says the fight broke up.

The men followed them back to their apartment complex.

narrator: He says the group returned.

One man had a gun.

♪ ♪

narrator: The witness says he did not see

the shooter's face.

♪ ♪

♪ ♪ - Unfortunately,

- Unfortunately,

my witness could not identify the shooter.

We'll just have to hit the pavement in the morning

and try to dig up some leads.

♪ ♪

[phone rings]

- Memphis Homicide, Sergeant Mason.

[investigative music]

♪ ♪

♪ ♪ [dramatic music]

[dramatic music]

narrator: Mason decides to call the suspect's mother.

- How are you? This is Sergeant Mason

with the Memphis Police Department Homicide Unit.

I need to talk to your boy

about an incident that happened over here tonight.

narrator: DeMario's mother

agrees to bring him in for questioning.

♪ ♪

- Now you understand the situati?

- Now you understand the situati? There's a man dead.

There's a man dead.

You're looking at the possibility of getting charged.

You understand that, right?

Of all the key players,

Mr. McVay can't speak.

♪ ♪

♪ ♪

- It ain't me.

♪ ♪

- You do not understand still

the seriousness of this situation?

- Yes, I do.

♪ ♪

- Here's your opportunity.

You can say whatever you wanna say.

- Yeah. - Don't get me wrong.

This is your story to tell.

narrator: DeMario admits he was involved in the fight

narrator: DeMario admits he was involved in the fight at the apartment complex

at the apartment complex

but denies shooting the victim.

- Everybody makes mistakes,

and I'm not looking down on you,

but there come a time in your life

when you have to stand up and say, "I messed up."

♪ ♪

narrator: Mason and Mullins take a break.

♪ ♪

- My approach when I went into the room with DeMario,

I wanted to talk to him on a human level.

I wanted to talk to him man to man.

There are times these suspects,

they look at me as somebody that can relate to me.

"He's probably from the same place I'm from.

He's probably got a similar story to me."

It's a relief for them to know

that the person sitting across the table

gets all that about me,

and it makes it a little bit easier for me as well.

♪ ♪

Hey, man.

I'm Lieutenant Armstrong.

- Really isn't a matter of getting out of it.

Right at this point, we past getting out of .

I think right now, the point that we're at

is...clarification.

♪ ♪

You ain't the first person

that's ever sat in that seat, s.

I've done hear everything from a damn gangbanger

to a doggone preacher

sitting in that seat where you at right now.

But I'm telling you,

you put yourself in a position where your whole life

can be summed up

by a moment of insanity.

By a moment of, "I lost my temper."

You fixing to get some people to judge you

You fixing to get some people to judge you that don't even know you.

that don't even know you.

'Cause if it was a jury of your peers,

those little thug boys that got you caught up

in this whole mess would be sitting on that jury.

They ain't gonna be there, partner.

But what is gonna be on that jury

is some teachers,

probably some businessmen,

probably some nurses.

Hell, maybe even a doctor or two.

You understand what I'm saying?

Who get sick and tired

of picking up the paper every single day

and reading about some little, young boy

that got his head blown off, got shot, whatever.

They sick of it. They tired of it.

And I'm gonna tell you what your lawyer's gonna say:

And I'm gonna tell you what your lawyer's gonna say: "You can't take the stand."

"You can't take the stand."

He ain't gonna let you tell your story

He ain't gonna let you tell your story because your story's a bunch of bull.

because your story's a bunch of bull.

because your story's a bunch of bull. It's a bunch of BS.

It's a bunch of BS.

It's a bunch of BS. It was a stupid mistake.

It was a stupid mistake.

It was a stupid mistake. You made a stupid decision.

You made a stupid decision.

You made a stupid decision. OK. Deal with it, partner.

OK. Deal with it, partner.

[suspenseful music]

And if you want me to treat you like a killer,

I can do that.

I can do that. I put killers in prison.

I put killers in prison.

You ain't no damn killer,

you understand what I'm telling you?

you understand what I'm telling you? You made a bad ass decision.

You made a bad ass decision.

You made a bad ass decision. You made a bad mistake.

You made a bad mistake.

You understand what I'm trying to tell you?

♪ ♪

♪ ♪ I ain't got all night.

I ain't got all night.

I'm just gonna ask you one time.

♪ ♪

Did you make a mistake, or are you a killer?

Are you a cold-hearted, cold-blooded killer?

♪ ♪

I can't hear you. Huh?

I can tell it's all up in here, son.

Get it out. It's killing you.

I'm sitting here looking at your face.

Did you make a mistake?

- Yes, sir, but we gonna get all that.

Me and you talking like men right n.

Me and you talking like men right n. This ain't-- this ain't--

This ain't-- this ain't--

- How old is your son?

- How old is your son? - Huh? - [crying]

- Huh? - [crying]

- I'm gonna fix it where you can talk to your son.

I'll bring you a phone in here and let you talk to your ,

but you gonna answer that one question.

♪ ♪

♪ ♪ Did you make a mistake?

Did you make a mistake?

Did you make a bad decision?

- What the hell does that mean?

- Mr. Armstrong, he had a gun too, sir.

♪ ♪

- If he had a gun, then I need to know he had a gun.

- There was a couple of them with guns, sir.

- OK, so how the hell are we supposed to know that

if you don't tell us?

And we gonna sit down, and we gonna go through this thing

step by step, you understand what I'm telling you?

- [crying] Yes, sir.

narrator: DeMario says his friends

got into a fight at the gas station.

He got involved when it escalated at the apartments.

[crying]

- Did you mean to shoot him?

- Did you mean to shoot him? - Huh? How many times did you shoot?

- Huh? How many times did you shoot?

[dramatic musical sting]

[crying]

[somber music]

Oh, my God.

- He's concerned now

that he'll never be able to touch his baby again,

but he also understand that there's a lady

that's lost her son.

She won't be able to touch him or see him again either.

♪ ♪

Anger can be a very powerful and destructive emotion.

When your emotions get involved,

don't take much for people to lash out into violenc.

There's only one way to go.

If you're already screaming at somebody,

guns and volatile people

guns and volatile people is a recipe for disaster.

is a recipe for disaster.

Guns and immature, impressionable young people

is a recipe for disaster.

is a recipe for disaster. Bad things are going to happen.

Bad things are going to happen.

♪ ♪